1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Buck. One of my kids called me anunk the 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: other day, and unk yep slang evidently for not being hip, 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: being an old dude. 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: So how do we ununk you? 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: Get more people to subscribe to our YouTube channel. At 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: least that's to what my kids tell me. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: That's simple enough. Just search the Clay Travis and Buck 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Sexton Show and hit the subscribe button. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Takes less than five seconds to help ununk me. 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Do it for Clay, do it for freedom, and get 11 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: great content while you're there. The Clay Travis en Buck 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Sexton Show YouTube channel. Second hour of Playing Buck kicks 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: off now, and we played the highlight reel for you 14 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: a few minutes ago. If you missed it, go back 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: to first hour Playing Buck on the podcast. We'll definitely 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: want to hear it. Julie Hambl, attorney and president of 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: the California Justice Center, joins us. Now, Julia, appreciate you 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: making the time. 19 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me now for. 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: First off, before we get into the exchange you had 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: on CNN, which we did. I don't know if you 22 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: know or if you were able to listen in before, 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: but we did play a good more than half of it. 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I'd say on the air. I watched it and it 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: was just it was astonishing, but also I guess I 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: expect it. So we'll get to that in a second. 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: But can you just from the legal perspective, tell everybody, 28 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: we know this story about Aby Hernandez biological male competing 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: against women, We know this stuff. What is the legal 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: what is legally at issue here? How does Title nine 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: come into play? What is Gavin Newsom of California doing? 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: What's happening on the legal front? 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: Well, long story short. Title nine has been a federal 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: statute since nineteen seventy two, and it's very simple. It 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 3: is sex based protections for you can't discriminate against girls 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: and women in educational programs, including sports, and so there's 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: supposed to be equal opportunity for women and girls in 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: educational programs including sports. California, back in twenty thirteen past 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: this law AB twelve sixty six, which is now Education 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: Code Section two twenty one one point five s that 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: says schools must allow students to use the facilities and 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: play on the sports team that aligns with their gender 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: identity instead of sex. So that essentially turns Title nine 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: on its head. And we've had that in place for 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: over a decade in California. Now it mirrors almost identically 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Biden's Title nine rule that he put in place in 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four that was enjoined by a number of 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: federal district courts. So those courts said in their decisions, 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: you cannot create a regulation or a rule that completely 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: flies in the face of what the statute says. This 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: completely subverts Title nine. It does the opposite of what 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Title nine was supposed to do by allowing males into 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 3: the female spaces, into female sports, into female academic programs. 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: It's total nonsense. Any thinking, sane human being can recognize 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: it immediately, which is why I'm frankly shocked that this 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: interview is getting so much attention because it was simply 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: it's just common sense. I was only saying things that 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: most of America is thinking. And what that is. 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it went. It went super viral, I think 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: for the reason that, and I'm glad that it did, 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Julie over the weekend, because you are just you are 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: just saying in a very calm tone, and everyone heard it. 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: We played it. Here's the reality, and the CNN anchor 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: has this almost like otherworldly, detached but what about people 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: who are assigned female at birth? Who uses this kind 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: of language, Like, you know, we just had Mother's Day recently. 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: You know, this is like the birthing people's day phenomenon 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: that we've heard, Like, no normal person thinks that this 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: should be normal. And let me ask you this taking 70 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: California's policy uhde to its logical conclusion. Let's say I 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: was an employee in the state of California and I 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: wanted to claim discrimination as a woman because I say 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: that I identify as a woman. On what grounds could California 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: tell me that I couldn't sue for sex based discrimination 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: against me as a woman? Like, how do how is 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: it legally codified what you identify as? 77 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: It is actually legally codified. It's freaking nonsense. So we 78 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: in addition to AB twelve sixty six, we also have 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: the unru Civil Rights Act, which defines discrimination based on 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: gender identity as a violation of California civil rights law. 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: So it's not just in schools, it's not just adults, 82 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: it's not just children, it's also adults. In California has 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: literally legislated gender ideology into statute, which is so absolutely nuts. 84 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't think people really understand the consequences of what 85 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: has been done here, then to take. 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: Me through this, because yeah, that is so nuts. I 87 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: didn't even know that they had done that. How how 88 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: do you qualify as identifying as a different gender? What 89 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: has to be done? Because it can't be sex change 90 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: operation because that's actually only a you know, a pretty 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: small percentage of these individuals. 92 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: It's a feeling. It's a feeling. Do you feel like 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: a woman today? You're a woman's well, so then I'm right. 94 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: So then I could I could say I feel like 95 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: a woman. I can't believe the sec it's that loud, 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: and I think I'm being discriminated against in my California 97 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: job as a woman, and I'm suing and they would 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: have to try to prove that I'm not actually a woman. 99 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's an absolute bonkers nonsense. 100 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: I you know, I said, what is now the next 101 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: step on this? 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: Right? 103 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: Because I think the sit down that you had or 104 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: the conversation you had on CNN was very illuminating. I mean, 105 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: also just things like we need more study to see 106 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: if biological males have an advantage in sports. This is 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: this is like members of the Communist Party or maybe 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: even just like everyday people within the Soviet Union saying, yes, 109 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: we're all starving, but the grain harvest this year was 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: the best grain harvest in history, Like this is that 111 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: level of crazy because we all know that. Obviously the 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: basis of men and women having segregated sports is that 113 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be fair if they didn't, right, That's otherwise 114 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: we would just have you know, men and women right 115 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: can apply to work in an investment bank. We don't 116 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: have the men the men position the women position. It's 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: different in sports because of the physical differences. So are 118 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: you are you going to bring suit? Is this going 119 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: to get up to appeals? Is this going to go 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: to Scotus? Like what happens now? 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: So there are lawsuits pending right now. The Advocates for 122 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: Faith and Freedom group out of San Diego filed a 123 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: lawsuit that is pending in the Central District right now. 124 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Our US Attorney Bill as Staley has filed a statement 125 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: of interest, and so the government is getting involved in 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: that one. That is challenging EBE twelve sixty six. I 127 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: hope it goes to SCOTUS. In the meantime, though, the 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: Trump administration is very much motivated and acting very quickly here, 129 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: and they are coming in with the full way of 130 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice, and I believe that we will 131 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: see results soon, hopefully. 132 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about the pulling because this 133 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: came up in your conversation. Lets you know, what do 134 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: you think about the pulling of federal funds of California 135 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: does not comply with Title nine rooted in an understanding 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: of gender as a thing that is real, or rather 137 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: men and women are things that are different and distinguishable 138 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: under law. 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Well, this is so crazy to me that the anchor, 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: with a straight face said to me that there are 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: different interpretations of Title nine, that there are people who 142 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: believe that gender identity is the thing that should be 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: protected and not sex. So for that reason, we need 144 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: to legislate this at the congressional level. We need a 145 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: federal statute to clarify that Title nine is sex based, 146 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: which does not include gender identity. It is your biological sex. 147 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: The fact that we have to do that is absolutely 148 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: It's terrifying to me. We've reached Orwellian levels of insanity 149 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: in this country. But in order to protect future generations, 150 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: we have to have this spelled out in statute, because 151 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: as soon as we don't have a Republican administration, we're 152 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: going to have this crazy leftist interpretation of Title nine again, 153 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: and they're going to allow males to compete against girls, 154 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: share facilities with girls, and there's nothing we can really 155 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: do about it. 156 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: So how it's just my problem with this is I 157 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: still come back to if they say that, and as 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: you pointed out that in California there's a gender identity 159 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: protection law, how can you legally law you know, if 160 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: somebody said, buck, how can you lawfully or legally identify 161 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: a man or a woman? I'm like, well, we know 162 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: what a man is, we know what a woman is. Right, 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: It's like you sit there, you go, that's a man, 164 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: that's a woman. How could you identify or rather, how 165 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: could you codify gender identity without it excluding people who 166 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: claim to be covered under gender identity, or rather without 167 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: it being so vague that it could be anything. 168 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, the people that deify the Defensive Freedom Institute have 169 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: actually proposed model legislation for this. It's like the Protect 170 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: Title nine Acts. You can go to their website and 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: it's there, and they've done that, and they and Bill A. 172 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Staley when he was in our state legislature right before 173 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: he got appointed to the US Attorney position, also introduced 174 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: a bill called AB eight forty four, which would have 175 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: done the same thing. 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: But that's defining men and women in law, right, Yes, yeah, No, 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, how could you define gender identity 178 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: in law? Because it isn't a thing. 179 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: It's defined in various places in California statute, it's it's 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: not consistent, it's always something different. And then if you 181 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: look at school district policies, these different school districts throughout 182 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: California have also taken a stab at trying to define it. 183 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: But it is a nebulous concept that it's ever changing. 184 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: It's not immutable. It's not going to be protected by 185 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court in equal protection cases because it's not 186 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: an immutable characteristic like sex. You cannot change your sex. 187 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Yes, So do you think this is to me? It 188 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: feels like this just has to go to the Supreme 189 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Court and there has to be some you know, clarify. 190 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: It's amazing clarifying ruling from the Supreme Court that men 191 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: and women are different and we can know the difference. 192 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: Why why do we have to do this? Why can 193 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: we not have people come to their senses and start 194 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 3: speaking rationally. 195 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: In it feels like democrats because you're asking a very 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: important question, but it feels like democrats to what you 197 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: said before, they're just trying to ride this thing out 198 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: until they're in power again, and then it's going to 199 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: be the lunacy of Yeah, this is the you know, 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: men in women's locker rooms, met against women on the 201 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: sports field, you know, men and women's prisons. 202 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, and the really Orwellian part about it is that 203 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: they're saying men are women, they are women. 204 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: They're not right, of course, they're actually. 205 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Women now because they say they are these these are 206 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: women and you must accept that. And if you don't 207 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: accept that, you're a bigot. 208 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Well have you ever seen this is what I always 209 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: tell everybody is the is the true ultimate ends of this. 210 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: There have been a few people who have tried this, 211 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: you see like blogs or you know stuff on like 212 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: HuffPo or The Nation or some of those you know 213 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: communist looney bins online where they they try to make 214 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: the case that if you're a straight man who is 215 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: not attracted to trans women, you're bigot it. Have you 216 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: ever seen that bubbles up here and there, and as 217 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: I point out to everybody, based on what you just said, 218 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: which is that the real belief is that trans women 219 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: are women indistinguishable from women. The ultimate logic of this 220 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: is there's a problem with guys who aren't attracted to 221 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: trans women. 222 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay. One of the most disturbing elements here 223 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: is what they're doing to children. I'm laughing right now, 224 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: but it's really dark. It's actually incredibly dark. And I'm 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: on a school board out here in Palace Verde, and 226 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: we had this book that we have fifth grade teachers 227 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: like these their ten year old kids. They're being read 228 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: a book called Too Bright to See, which says it 229 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: literally says in the book, a trans woman is a woman, 230 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: full stop, and anything else is bigotry. And that is 231 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: what they are teaching little kids. 232 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: It's all they are teaching kids. The sky is green. 233 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: They are teaching kids can see. They look at the sky, 234 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: it's blue, and there are books that say the sky 235 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: is green, and we're supposed to accept that. 236 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: Yes, this is nineteen eighty four come to life. 237 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: It is great. Well, Julie, appreciate the work you're doing 238 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: on this. What's your organizations if anyone wants to go 239 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: help donate any of that stuff. 240 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: So I am the president of the California Justice Center. 241 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: We are supported by the California Policy Center, which is 242 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: a nonprofit organization. If you want to donate and support 243 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: my work, that is where to go. You can find 244 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: my handle on Twitter at hamml Hmill Underscore Law. 245 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: Well. 246 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: Great work, keeping your cool and keeping it calm and collected. 247 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: While you know, while one of the commissars was trying 248 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: to go through the talking points on CNN, I appreciate 249 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: you making the time for us. 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 251 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: Look, let's talk about gold for a second here. I 252 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: believe in taking the long term view and that's the 253 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: best way to achieve financial security, to make smart decisions. 254 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: And gold has been part of my long term plan 255 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: for a long time, and that's why it's worked so well. 256 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: I go back now, I think I got my first 257 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: gold coin maybe fifteen years ago, and I've been building 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: up my gold reserves ever since. And it's been a 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: smart move. And this is one of these things. You know, 260 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: a lot a lot of conservatives we talk about gold, 261 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: and we've been pushing gold for years. And if you look, 262 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: gold's done really really well. The gold that I bought 263 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: years ago has gone up tremendously in value, and gold 264 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: continues to go up in value. So this is just 265 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: a smart idea for the long term financial play to 266 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: hedge against inflation, which we could experience a little bit 267 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: of a bump in that this summer. But also the 268 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: only way forward with the debt that we have is 269 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: going to be more printing, more printing, more printing, which 270 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: means dollars will go down in value. Gold, my friends, 271 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: gold is the store of value still to this day 272 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: and all throughout history. With the national debt we have, 273 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: there is no way forward realistically other than the continued 274 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: printing of dollars, and that means the money that you 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: have in your bank account's going to be worth less. 276 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Diversifying a portion of your savings into gold so you 277 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: can get that upside and get that protection makes sense. 278 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety 279 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: eight Birch Gold Group. We'll send you a free no 280 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: obligation infokid on gold. 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Yeah, we're 289 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: just talking about this story out of California a second 290 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: ago with the person who just won the track and 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: field championship. Is a biological mail and it's it's pretty 292 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: remarkable a Democrats plan to stay on this issue and 293 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: have not budged at all. It really gives you a 294 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: sense as to how clear it is that this is 295 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: really important to them. They view this as the new 296 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: civil rights struggle. The Democrats really as a party, they're 297 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: attached to this. And one of the ways I tried 298 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: to say this back on my Bill maher appearance in October, 299 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: I think I got talked over a little bit, but 300 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: I was trying to say, even for the Democrats who 301 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: know this is crazy, and there are Democrats. I've spoken 302 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: to Democrats who know this stuff is nuts, particularly else 303 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: in my case, I've spoken to a number of offline, 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, not not in public, but a number of 305 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: black Democrats who do not agree with the transagenda stuff. 306 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: But then they don't want to deal with the heat. 307 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: I know people who are prominent in Democrats, you know, 308 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: prominent Democrat commentators, and and they don't want to you know, 309 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: they don't want to deal with it. It's not that 310 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: they agree with it, but they don't want to deal 311 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: with the heat that they get from this one. And 312 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of Democrats that fall into 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: that category. They won't publicly go against this, even if 314 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: they're not on board. So whether it's a Chuck Schumer 315 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: type or a go down the list, they will not say, yeah, 316 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: this is crazy, which tells you all you need to know. 317 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: If it was damaging to their party and they disagreed 318 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: with it, wouldn't they be willing to say I don't 319 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: think we should do this anymore. VIP email from David. 320 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: He says maybe the state should try this, have a boys, 321 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: girls and open classification. Trans female will compete with the girls, 322 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: except they will be awarded a medal in the open division. 323 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: Girls will receive awards replacing events in the girls division, 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: so everyone competes but the rewards are divided into classifications. 325 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: That is, David, that's not a bad idea, you know, 326 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: it's an option. I would just say I think that 327 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: the trans individuals, because it's always it's always guys pretending 328 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: to be girls. 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Or call 354 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: eight four four a two four safe, eight four four 355 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: eight two four safe. We are gonna take a moment here. 356 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm gonna talk you through this. This 357 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: was really interesting over the weekend, this drone attack in 358 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: Ukraine that got a lot of headlines. I'll keep in 359 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: mind right now, there is a negotiation that it's happening, 360 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: or at least there's you know, the beginnings of negotiations 361 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: underway between Russia and Ukraine. So they're going into peace 362 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: talks and it comes right in the aftermath of this 363 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: this strike. And here's what here's what we know so far. 364 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: There's a. There's a lot of footage and video of 365 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: it because they the drones relaid back in real time 366 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: what they were doing, so you have footage of these 367 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: attacks that are now that have been circulated, and they 368 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: were hitting they were hitting these planes on these Russian 369 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: planes on the tarmac. Here's what we know. So Ukraine 370 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: got one hundred and seventeen drones aerial drones into trucks 371 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: and the trucks were Russian and they somehow contracted with 372 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: these trucks, contracted with these trucks to go to the 373 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: perimeter of four Russian air bases. One of them was 374 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: in Siberia. I mean this is way far. This is 375 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: a couple This is thousands of miles from the actual 376 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: Ukraine border, so way deep inside Russia. They got these 377 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: drones to be on these trucks and they and the 378 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: drones activated. They obviously had them on a remote control setup. 379 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: The drones activated and were able to attack forty Russian 380 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: strategic bomber aircraft, which is which is about a little 381 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: more than a third of Russia's strategic cruise missile carriers. 382 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: The estimated cost of this to Russia is seven billion dollars. Okay, 383 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: and you know, we've got a much bigger military budget 384 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: than Russia. We've got much more in the way of 385 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: these kinds of strategic assets that we could well, we 386 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to have to rebuild them, but you know, 387 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: we have much better resourcing than they do. So you 388 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: can imagine seven billion dollars of Russian military hardware that hurts. 389 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: People have been talking about this as the pager remember 390 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: the Hesbola Mossad pager operation where the pagers blew up 391 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: and the hands of or on the waste Really of 392 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: these Hesbelo operatives because they managed to get into their 393 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: supply chain and it was as you know, I mean, 394 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: I spent some time in the CIA and was aware 395 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: of some pretty pretty remarkable CIA operations. A lot of 396 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: the really good ones have been are public, and they've 397 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: even made movies about some of them. But you know, 398 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: the CIA has done some pretty cool stuff in the past, 399 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: or I should say impressive stuff. That pager operation by 400 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: the Israelis is the stuff of intelligence espionage legend. This 401 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: this drone attack was I'm just talking tactically impressive all right. Now, 402 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: Whether you're worried about this some kind of escalation or 403 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: anything else, that's another part of the conversation. But this 404 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: comes after Russia has been really escalating its military strikes 405 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: on particular I'm sorry, it's strikes, particularly on civilians, not 406 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: on military targets. Russia has been just blowing up a 407 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: lot a lot of civilians while we're supposed to get 408 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: this opening for a ceasefire. Really that's what you need first, right, 409 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: ceasefire means the guns are silent and at least you're 410 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: not taking active casualties, and then you can continue to 411 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: hammer out a what a meaningful end of the conflict 412 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: would be. You know what a you know, a treaty 413 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: or misstis, whatever it's going to be, however you end it, 414 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: you can figure it out. But first you want to 415 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: get to a ceasefire so you're not losing people, there's 416 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: not bloodshed unnecessarily. But Trump has been very clear he 417 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: is deeply unhappy with Putin's response to the efforts to 418 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: get him into a conversation here about ending this war. 419 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: And this is this is something that I was concerned about. Look, 420 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: everyone's concerned about. It's not easy. What Trump is trying 421 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: to do here, what he's trying to accomplish would be 422 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: an incredible win, but it's certainly worth trying, because the 423 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: alternative is that you have people dying in large numbers 424 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: on the front between Russian and Ukraine. To our side 425 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: of things, and I try to be very clear, there's 426 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: Ukrainian and Russian interest here, and there's American interest, which 427 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: I am primarily concerned with. And I wish that there 428 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: was no fighting going on over there, just like I 429 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: wish there was no fighting going on between Israel and Hamas, 430 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: and I wish there was no fighting and ethnic cleansing 431 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: going on in Sudan. And this is but we live 432 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: in a nasty world, as you know, and there's no 433 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: way to just snap your fingers and make these things 434 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: go away. And you can't just let the bad guys 435 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: go without any response. So on our side of things, though, 436 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: with Russia Ukraine, we are funding this, And yes, I 437 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: know that there's the argument that's being made that we 438 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: are and this I'm uncomfortable with this argument on an 439 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: number in a number of ways, that we are bleeding 440 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: Russia so that we won't have to fight them. I 441 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: don't think that we have to worry about fighting Russia. 442 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: Russia militarily is nowhere near what it would need to 443 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: be to pose a threat to US interests, I know, 444 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: other than the nuclear arsenal, But we're Russia is not 445 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: looking to create a nuclear holocaust of the entire planet. 446 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident in that we are working on now, 447 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: thanks to Trump, the Golden Dome system, which I think 448 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: will give us even more peace of mind. That's to me. 449 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: More for Iran, North Korea, you know, rogue state actors 450 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: where it's not just the possibility that they may get 451 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: crazy enough that they want to launch, which is there. 452 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: The more you I'll tell you this, the more you 453 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 2: read about North Korea, I've learned a fair bit. I mean, 454 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm because I find it fascinating. It's a little bit though. 455 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: North Korea is terrifying to the point where like you 456 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: need to go if you really read up on it, 457 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: and I mean you get into the history of it 458 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: and what it's like there, you got to go for 459 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: a walk in the sunshine afterwards, because it will you 460 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: kind of feel in your soul how could this be 461 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: happening today today in the world. How could a place 462 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: be so horrific and so crazy and such a vile tyranny? 463 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: But so yeah, the more you learn about North Korea, 464 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: the more you think to yourself, well, maybe they're crazy 465 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: enough to fire off a missile, But there's also the 466 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: possibility that they could just lose control of the stockpile 467 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: to some faction within that that's even crazier. This is 468 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: always the concern, and you know, I would say, if 469 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 2: anyone is going to be able to bring about a 470 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: cease fire between Russia and Ukraine, I think Trump is 471 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: in the likeliest position. But this was always going to 472 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: be a tough ask. I know Trump said I would 473 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: end it, you know, day one or whatever. And that's 474 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: Trump in the role as salesmen of look, I am 475 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 2: the best guy for this, so let me do what 476 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: I need to do and we'll get there. You know, 477 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of over promising on the timeline, 478 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't the best guy 479 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: to try to get it done. There's the possibility, and 480 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: I thought this all along, that there is no ceasefire 481 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: to be had because Putin thinks he's winning and there's 482 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: reason for him to believe that, and he doesn't care 483 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: about the casualties that he's incurring because he doesn't have 484 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: to face a real election, and he thinks that this 485 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: is more in the long term strategic interest of Russia 486 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: to pursue, and maybe he views himself. I think there's 487 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: plenty of reason to think that he views himself in 488 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: the mold of a you know, whether it's a Stalin 489 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: or a Peter the Great, or one of the one 490 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 2: of the still very celebrated leaders Soviet or Russian leaders 491 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: of the past who were very expansionist in there in 492 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: their ideas right and what they were able to accomplish. 493 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: I actually read a I have it here, I've in 494 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: The Terrible by pain and Romanov. I told you about 495 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: North Korea. Same thing with with reading about Ivan the Terrible. 496 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: You will need to go for a walk in the 497 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: sunshine if you if you read about how crazy that 498 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: guy was really, I mean truly sidistic in a way 499 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: that is demonic. And yeah, I was was leader leader 500 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: of RU, I mean not wasn't really Russia. It was 501 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: kind of like he's a prince of Moscow. It's a 502 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: little different, but still and somebody that has thought of 503 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: I think very clearly, in fact, you could make it. 504 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: You can draw a pretty straight line between a lot 505 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: of the Stalinist approach to dissent and to totalitarianism, and 506 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: Ivan the Terrible setting up a really the the original 507 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: totalitarian secret policeman as the o Pretzniki, and I read 508 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: about this in my book, which is probably why I'm 509 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: immediately going into this. Op Pretchniki were a fascinating group, horrible. 510 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: They dressed in all black. They had severed dogs heads 511 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: that they would have tied to their saddle just so 512 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: everybody knew what they were really about. And they had 513 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: complete extra judicial detention, torture and execution authority anybody that 514 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: they wanted to kill who was in the way of 515 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: the of the of the Tsar that he didn't like 516 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: or that they didn't like, you know, as long as 517 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: it didn't make the Tsar angry, it didn't matter. And 518 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: Stalin I think figured out this was a very effective way, 519 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: because i've in the Terrible stayed in power for a 520 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: long time and managed to get get quite get quite far, 521 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: actually did pretty well militarily against some of the enemies 522 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: in the region. Anyway, sorry weaving a little too much there. 523 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: Back to Russia Ukraine. See this is way you got 524 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: to get the books you can learn learn more about 525 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: the Opachniki scary guys, and the fact that they had 526 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: dogs heads on their saddles. Man, that's an if you 527 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: want to show that somebody is an evil, you know, 528 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: son of a gun, a dog head on the saddle 529 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: is like a very good place to start, you know. 530 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: That's that's uh. I'm like still angry. That was five 531 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: hundred years ago. I'm still angry about it. So I 532 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: think that there's a chance that we'll get some kind 533 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 2: of a cease fire in rush of Ukraine, but I'm 534 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: not counting on it. Trump is annoyed. But back to 535 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: American interests here, back to what the US is hoping 536 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: to get out of this. We don't want to continue 537 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: to fund this forever, and we certainly don't want to 538 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: put our own people in harm's way and suffer the 539 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: possible loss of American soldiers fighting in a country that ultimately, 540 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: whether it stays under Russian Federation control, or rather whether 541 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: it stays under Ukraine or Russian Federation control, does not 542 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: matter that much to us. That is the harsh reality 543 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: of it. It doesn't matter enough that we're willing to 544 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: die for. It doesn't matter enough that I would want 545 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: any of you, any of you listening or any of 546 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: your children or grandchildren to go fight for it. So 547 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: we have that in mind with all of this, right, 548 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: this is something that we have to understand that that 549 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: is the red line. Not a single American on behalf 550 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: of the armed forces are enforces dying over there to 551 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: figure out where the final lines on the map will 552 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: be drawn. But yes, it was an impressive strike by 553 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Ukraine inside of drums and also as a window I 554 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: think into the future of warfare, which is just going 555 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: to be increasingly I think that we reached, in a 556 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: sense a pinnacle of commando warfare, and I mean that 557 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: special operations Jsock Seals, Delta Rangers, marsk All that we 558 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: reached a pinnacle of that in the War on Terror 559 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: because it was largely counterinsurgaincy operations. It was targeted strikes 560 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: against individuals, you know, it was gutting it out, muzzle 561 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: to muzzle with the bad guys. The wars of the 562 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: future I think are going to increasingly rely on those. Obviously, 563 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: special operations always have a very important role, precision instrument 564 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: that needs to be used the way it was intended 565 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: to be used. But you're going to see a lot 566 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: more of just tech drones AI and everybody sees this happening, 567 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: and who controls the skies is going to be a 568 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: combination of who has the best autonomous tech, the best AI, 569 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: the best overall drone systems, and the manufacturing of them. 570 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Another reason why manufacturing capacity is going to be so 571 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: important here because if China can put ten thousand drones 572 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: a month in the sky and we can only put, 573 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: you know, a thousand, even if ours are better, that's 574 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: a big problem. So this is where I think the 575 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: future and I believe everyone sees this, the future of 576 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: warfare is going and you're seeing a picture into it. 577 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: Remember the Boer War in South Africa. Get it into 578 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: South Africa discussion now, But the Boer War in South 579 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: Africa the origin of the term concentration camp and also 580 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: was actually an early version of the trench warfare we 581 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: saw in the First World War. You really got a 582 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: sneak peak of what the First World was or is 583 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: going to turn into with the trench warfare. Based on 584 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: the Boer War, we are getting a sneak peak of 585 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: what nation state warfare in the future is going to be. 586 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: Between with this look at Russia Ukraine, but it could 587 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: be of course between the US and China, and that's 588 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 2: the big thing that we're looking at here. The official 589 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: start to hurricane season has arrived, and you know what 590 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: that means, more rain and more debris in your gutters. 591 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: When your gutters are clogged, that will lead to costly 592 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: damage to your home. You don't want the mess or 593 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: the expense. 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See your representative for warranty details. 603 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna be joining here in just a few minutes 604 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. We're gonna talk to 605 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: him about the big, beautiful bill. It is big and 606 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: it's beautiful and it is a bill. We will talk 607 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: to him about what's going on there and also some 608 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: other things. A very interesting guy, interesting background. He was 609 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 2: an mm A fighter, husband and father of six. Wow, 610 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: he's got some so he can give us a he 611 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: can give you some tips on how to defend yourself 612 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: in a street fight. And you know, dad stuff because 613 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: six kids, man, that is that is that's that's the 614 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: that's the pro level right there. You know, one kid 615 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: is challenging enough, but six kids. Good for him. Let's 616 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: get to some of our talkbacks. You remember, talkbacks are 617 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. It's great. You just go to 618 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck page. Make sure you subscribe to 619 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck podcast network, and you can send 620 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: us a message by pressing a little microphone. AA podcast 621 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: listener Patty with a talkback hit it. 622 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 4: The rational response to the emotional debate put forth by 623 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: these parents of transgender athletes is what about the emotional 624 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: stress and straining to put on the female athletes because 625 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: they have spent years and years perfecting their sport, becoming 626 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 4: the best they can be, only to have it all 627 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: taken away by some dude with emotional problems. They need 628 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: to deal with their own child's emotional stress without causing 629 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 4: more stress to other athletes. 630 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: Perfectly said Patty, completely agree, articulate, excellent, right to the point. 631 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: A plus on the talkback, and I won't glad everybody 632 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: heard it because I think you're completely correct. You know, 633 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: the be kind to the trans athlete ignores the how 634 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: about be kind to the girls? The women? You know, 635 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, girls, women. I mean, I think 636 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: you're seventeen eighteen you start saying women, but you know, 637 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: you got what I mean. I mean, they're high school girls. 638 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: How about in to the the girls who are involved 639 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: in the athletic competition, and how about be kind to 640 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: them by not having them change next to a guy 641 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 2: who's got male genitals. That's a little that's a little 642 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: off putting, right, a little. I mean it's a lot 643 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: off putting, you know what I mean. It's crazy. Let's 644 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: get one more talk back here. We have BB listener 645 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: JB from Louisville play it, hey buck. 646 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 5: So when the Russian Ukraine War started, I was in 647 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: eighth grade and I just graduated my sophomore year of 648 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 5: high school, which means this has been going on for 649 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 5: way too long and I'm just really glad to see 650 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: that we finally have a president who's going to put 651 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 5: an end to all this garbage in whatever way he can. 652 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: Love the show. Thank you guys so much. JB. Love 653 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: having somebody in your age cohort listening. Please tell your 654 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 2: friends they'll get well educated on things that they listen 655 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: to Clay and Buck. JB. Why do you know more 656 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: than all your friends about all the things because you 657 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: listen to Clay and Buck. At least that's one reason. 658 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: Please spread the word, and I totally agree with your 659 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: Assessment's time to end this war. Mark Wayne Mulling up next, 660 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 2: the Senator