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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 1: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life.

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Speaker 4: All right, hit that horn? Very what's up everybody, and

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Speaker 4: welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 4: I am your host, Chris Raybond, joined by Samantha Pervidi,

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Speaker 4: and today we are going to get you caught up

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Speaker 4: on all the player movement around the league and what

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Speaker 4: has been an NFL off season for the Ages.

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Speaker 3: Samantha, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the introduction, and yeah, what a crazy

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Speaker 2: offseason this has been. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: times we say it's crazy, but this has been absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: Like imagine if you're the casual player right now and

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Speaker 2: research and you're like, who's on what team? What what happened? So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's been a crazy winter movement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're going to kind of run through every position,

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Speaker 4: talk about all the key guys who moved and you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll kind of get into the fantasy implications a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but we'll obviously dive deeper into that in future episode.

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Speaker 4: Really just want to get you guys caught up and

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Speaker 4: give you guys a little nugget here and there about

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Speaker 4: what to expect with all of these players that have

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Speaker 4: think the first one is Russell Wilson to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 4: this Russell Wilson move.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it must have been such a roller

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Speaker 2: coaster for all of Denver Nation because like, at first

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Speaker 2: they do have an awesome quarterback now. I do feel

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Speaker 2: because of how a kneemack the offense has been in

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Speaker 1: And how good Denver's defense is.

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Speaker 2: He did pretty well last year, but he also did

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Speaker 2: post his lowest PFF grade since he was a rookie.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think that this puts Wilson in

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Speaker 2: This is obviously a significant upgrade though for Jerry, Judy, Courtland, Saton,

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Speaker 2: But I think that the Judy and Sutton kind of

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Speaker 4: For me, don't forget about my guy Tim Patrick on

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Speaker 4: Denver wouldn't be surprised if he has a surprisingly good

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Speaker 1: I was a little bummed out as a Panthers fan

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Speaker 1: He was QB seven through sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think of this one?

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Speaker 3: I love it for Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't comment on the legal issues, but

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Speaker 4: so I'm not going to get into all that. But

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Speaker 4: So I don't see why that wouldn't continue here in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: So do you expect that Cleveland will be less run

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean it's Baker Mayfield. Just look at his market,

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Speaker 3: I think the efficiency will be there.

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Speaker 4: You know, mobile quarterbacks tend to increase running backs efficiency.

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Speaker 4: to Carson Wentz. And now this is where we kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a sexy trade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because Wentz had one of his better

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe you stream him once a year.

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Speaker 4: But not really too excited about him. Maybe he helps Terry,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like Ron Rivera, but the organization really

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Speaker 4: but a lot of that was to do with Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 4: So I just worry about him on this Washington team.

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Speaker 4: it's really about the quarterback for him.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 4: I mean, talk about sexy Matt Ryan was traded to

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Speaker 3: What do he thinks Savanta.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of factors here because Atlanta's time of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another one. I just can't get excited

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Speaker 3: But last two years, Matt Ryan without Calvin.

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Speaker 4: So I can I can see myself, Yeah right, I

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Speaker 4: so we'll just do some housekeeping. Just give us the

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Speaker 1: To the Texans. Do you have any thing to.

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Speaker 3: Add, no, absolutely no power.

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Speaker 4: A Bartmart running back Shay Edmonds. Rahiem Moster also added

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Speaker 2: Coach man, this offense is an absolute wagon. I mean Edmunds,

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Speaker 2: I feel like Gould emerges the alpha in this backfield.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Edmunds is going to have some upside,

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Speaker 2: Just don't bring up that I have PTSD from October whatever,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean now you can have more because I

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Speaker 4: Anytime you're dealing with free agent running back and see

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Speaker 3: You never know what you're gonna get. But I do

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Speaker 4: I do think Edmonds has had some top twenty four

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Speaker 4: You know, a case for worry is like, is Edmund's

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, we had Damian Williams going to

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Speaker 3: So I mean, any thoughts here on on Damien.

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Speaker 1: I don't have much interest in him for fantasy at

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine a lot of game scripts

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Speaker 1: Value, Like you said, it's really hard to say what

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Speaker 2: Was an absolute machine with touchdowns and now and then

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Speaker 4: Maybe he just doesn't make the team. Gotchake you hear

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Speaker 4: I mean, so he averaged two point four to three

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the only one that's super of

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Speaker 1: Amir Abdullah signed.

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Speaker 3: A whole bunch of nothing there. I mean that was like,

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Speaker 3: what we're all as good as this season? It was

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Speaker 1: Just recently have Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. He's not on the Chiefs anymore.

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Speaker 4: That's like, I'm like, you gotta pour one out just

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Speaker 3: That doesn't look like they're going to bring back Fuller.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that Hill.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes stock has won me a lot of money in

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Speaker 2: the past, so yes, pouring out for him. This is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the weapons are crazy, so he's got

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Speaker 4: He's around, uh, you know, seventeenth overall in overall ADP

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Speaker 4: Tyreek's still gonna have a high floor because he's still

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Speaker 4: He's still going as a wide receiver for he's in

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Speaker 3: What do you think about this bomb show? Devonte to

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Speaker 3: the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: The AFC West Arms Race, But yeah, I think this

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Speaker 2: ends up being a downgrade for Adams to finished as

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver to last season for fantasy. He sits

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Speaker 2: outside of that tier that I just mentioned as well,

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Speaker 2: but just outside of it. It's not like he's a

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Speaker 2: you know, wide receiver tian or anything like that. I

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Speaker 2: think I would feel comfortable, like you said, of taking

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Speaker 2: him at.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver four.

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Speaker 2: This could be a downgrade for Hunter Run for he's

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Speaker 2: coming off of that breakout season he had over one

450
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Speaker 2: thousand yards, really started breakout after Henry Ruggs was off

451
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Speaker 2: the team, finished as a wide receiver thirteen. This ends

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Speaker 2: up being an upgrade for car though too. He was

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Speaker 2: the QB twelve Like he wasn't a sexy name last year,

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Speaker 2: but QB twelve or seventeen games average sixteen Fantasy points.

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Speaker 2: I like him as a high end QB two right now,

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Speaker 2: but he has that QB one off side now with

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Speaker 2: Devonte Adams, and I don't know if it matters. But

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Speaker 2: on the other side of it, for Rogers is a huge,

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Speaker 2: huge downgrade. I don't know who he's going to be

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Speaker 2: throwing to. It looks like Alan Lizard and Randall Cobb

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Speaker 2: and maybe Robert Kenyan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, major downgrade for Aaron Rodgers, because remember Rogers had

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Speaker 4: some pretty average seasons in terms of his efficiency mixed

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Speaker 4: in even with Adams, you know, when Adams was kind

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Speaker 4: of emerging.

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Speaker 3: So I just worry about his efficiency.

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Speaker 4: If they don't nail the draft and get like a

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Speaker 4: difference maker at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: How many drafts do you think we're gonna go saying

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Speaker 2: that the Packers have to take a receiver early and

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Speaker 2: then they don't do it. Because this is now like

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Speaker 2: Draft three, I think at least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can say they're immunized from taking receivers early

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Speaker 4: in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I.

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Speaker 4: Don't it's it's it's tough because it's it's interesting to

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Speaker 4: me that Rogers reportedly new about Devonte's desire to leave

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Speaker 4: and still sign back on.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, how much more can they do to

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Speaker 3: like not give him what he needs?

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like they had only one other player

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Speaker 4: besides Adams and Aaron Jones had multiple targets in their

483
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Speaker 4: playoff lost to San Francisco, and that was Dominique Daffney,

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Speaker 4: who's the I don't know, is he the tight end,

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Speaker 4: the second, third, fourth tight end? He's well, because they

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Speaker 4: have so many tight ends and fullbacks on this roster.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that must have been like a convinced

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Speaker 1: me prop for you. Domany gotne me under eighteen receiving yards.

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Speaker 4: I just try to get him posted, like hopefully if

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Speaker 4: I keep betting him, they keep posting him.

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Speaker 3: Because that's the thing. Anytime he give me a backup

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Speaker 3: tight end, I'm taking his under. But here's the thing

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Speaker 3: about Adams.

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Speaker 4: You know, a few years back, Rogers missed half the season,

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Speaker 4: Adams still averaged five point it catches, sixty six yards

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Speaker 4: and a half a touchdown per game.

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Speaker 3: He only dropped off about one and a half little

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Speaker 3: over one and a half.

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Speaker 4: PPR half PPR points compared to his usual average over

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Speaker 4: the last five years with Rogers in the lineup. So

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Speaker 4: remember this is his you know, college quarterback. You know

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Speaker 4: he really wants to be here. That's why the trade happened. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think I like Adams to kind of

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Speaker 4: hold up his end of the bargain a little more

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Speaker 4: than Hill, just because I think Car is better than

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Speaker 4: tongue of Iloa.

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Speaker 3: Car has kind of surprising.

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Speaker 4: We had some pretty efficient seasons and you know they

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Speaker 4: have chemistry there, so it's not you know, it's not

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Speaker 4: like if Adams is going to go here, and like

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Speaker 4: it's not like an Odell Beckham to Cleveland situation where

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Speaker 4: it's like is he gonna mesh with Baker? You know,

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Speaker 4: like we don't. This is like Adams has co signed

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Speaker 4: this move. So I think the floor is still going

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Speaker 4: to be incredibly high for Adams. I would, you know,

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Speaker 4: if he's dropping past wide receiver four, if he's even

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Speaker 4: at wide receiver four, I'll take that all day, just

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Speaker 4: even though I don't think the ceilings the same with

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Speaker 4: you know, the touchdown upside with Rogers, I think the

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Speaker 4: floor it's still massively high because he's another guy who's

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Speaker 4: a top five talent, probably even higher than that. Robert

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Speaker 4: Woods goes to the Titans, So the Rams and we'll

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Speaker 4: talk about that in a second. Essentially swap Allen Robinson in.

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Speaker 4: So Robert Woods is now a Tennessee Titan. What did

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Speaker 4: you think of this one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this was an interesting one. For sure.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a downgrade for Woods.

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Speaker 2: Stafford obviously a better quarterback than Tannehill and offers more upside. Also,

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Speaker 2: the Titans offense is just super run heavy if they

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Speaker 2: have a healthy Derek Henry. Of course there's going to

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Speaker 2: be competition from AJ Brown maybe in that wide receiver

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Speaker 2: three territory, but it's hard to say. With these guys

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Speaker 2: that are a little older switching offenses, there's just a

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Speaker 2: lot going on here. I think this could be a

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Speaker 2: slight downgrade for AJ Brown as well. I was pretty

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Speaker 2: high on him, and maybe a little less high. I

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Speaker 2: still think he should be the low end wide receiver one.

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Speaker 2: This should be an upgrade for Tannehill, though I think

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Speaker 2: he still sits squarely in that QB two territory.

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Speaker 4: I like panna Hill even as a low in QB

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Speaker 4: one because I mean, this offense could be scary because

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Speaker 4: Julio Jones never really played last year and Brown was

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Speaker 4: obviously hurt a lot too. So if they get like

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Speaker 4: a full season out of Brown and Woods and then Henry,

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Speaker 4: because I remember Henry also was out for half that year.

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Speaker 3: This could be their most explosive iteration of this offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Because you also, as we'll talk about a little later,

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Speaker 4: he also signed Austin Hooper, who I think is one

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Speaker 4: of the better tight ends receiving wise that they've had,

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Speaker 4: especially upgrade over a guy like fur So you know,

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Speaker 4: for Woods himself, yeah, I agree, I think it's a downgrade,

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Speaker 4: but he's probably still no worse than a wide receiver

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Speaker 4: you know, two three, because if you look at his numbers,

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Speaker 4: you know, wide receiver eleven last year while he was

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Speaker 4: healthy and in Fantasy points per game in half PPR,

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Speaker 4: wide receiver thirteen and twenty twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: Wide receiver ten in twenty eighteen, Why receiver eighteen and

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. So ever since he moved to the Rams,

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Speaker 4: he's been inside that top twenty, hasn't suffered too many

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Speaker 4: other injuries outside of last year. So there's still I

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Speaker 4: think a decent floor for Robert Woods. But Tennessee's just

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Speaker 4: not not nearly as pass heavy, and that's ultimately I

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Speaker 4: think gonna knock him down into more that you know,

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Speaker 4: low one, wide receiver two or just wide receiver three territory.

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Speaker 4: All right, Allan Robinson, where'd you think of Robinson going

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Speaker 4: to the Rams after he just I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: drafted Alan Robinson last year, you probably did not win

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Speaker 4: your fantasy league.

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Speaker 2: Hey I did draft on and I did win those leagues.

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Speaker 2: But like, okay, with cutting ties with people pretty fast.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean this feels like a pretty good

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Speaker 2: upgrade for him. He finally has this tried and tested QB.

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Speaker 2: Not that Justin Fields had a terrible season, but you've

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Speaker 2: got a feel for Robinson who's just like gone his

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Speaker 2: whole career without having like a really good pocket passer.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, to your point, he was a total dud.

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Speaker 2: Finished as wide receiver eighty eight with twelve games played.

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Speaker 2: Not great, but previously it finished as wide receiver eleven

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Speaker 2: and wide receiver twelve with very subpar QB players. So

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Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic I might go back to that.

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Speaker 1: Well, he will be the wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Two in that offense with what's gone, so I think

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Speaker 2: he could be a wide receiver three with upside kind

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Speaker 2: of guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this impacts Cooper Cup at all.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty much the thing He's He's going to be

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00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: into that wide receiver three range as well. I think obviously,

588
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Speaker 4: if it looks like you know, Beckham probably won't be back,

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Speaker 4: you know you're gonna be the number two target in

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Speaker 4: that offense. That's still valuable, especially with Cooper Cup kind

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00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: of demanding double teams. But still I think you have

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Speaker 4: to be a little bit cautious where Robinson. You know,

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Speaker 4: if there's some preseason hype, probably be a guy Faye,

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Speaker 4: just because he's kind of past that peak age of

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Speaker 4: his career now. Wide receivers usually peak around you know,

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Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven. He's a little older than that now,

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Speaker 4: and he's just coming off a really bad season, and

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Speaker 4: there is, you know, a correlation between year over year numbers.

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Speaker 4: So it's you can only kind of project so much

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Speaker 4: of a bounce back with Robinson.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, if he started, if people, if the hype starts building,

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Speaker 4: I'd be off of him. But right now, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: stay he's a solid wide receiver. Three Amari Cooper. This

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Speaker 4: one's interesting. I mean he's, as we speak, the wide

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Speaker 4: receiver one for the Cleveland Browns now moved from Dallas.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of Coop to Cleveland?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a confusing because there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of moving pieces.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's less competition for him.

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Speaker 2: On one hand, he doesn't have to compete with Ceedee

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Speaker 2: Lamb or Michael Gallup when he was healthy, or the

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Speaker 2: two tight ends, or Zeke and Pollard or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: So that could sort of help him.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, like generously, we could say that

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Speaker 2: Watson will be equal to Dak in terms of quarterback play,

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Speaker 2: but we don't really totally know, and also we don't

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Speaker 2: know if he's going to miss games. So Cooper finished

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Speaker 2: in that wide receiver two territory last year, and I

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Speaker 2: think I would probably draft him there this year.

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Speaker 1: Just I think it's an upgrade, but there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of question marks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the f side here for Cooper, who's

624
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Speaker 4: always been a pretty consistent, high floor receiver in his career.

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Speaker 4: Now you know, he's twenty eight, so it's tiny bit

626
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Speaker 4: past that peak age, but still very much in his prime.

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Speaker 3: But I just look at Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 4: I remember I mentioned earlier how Watson has given us

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Speaker 4: top seven performances that every year. Well, in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: Watson's number one receiver, Will Fuller was wide receiver seven

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Speaker 4: before he got suspended. The year before that, DeAndre Hopkins

632
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Speaker 4: was wide receiver six. The year before that, Hopkins was

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Speaker 4: wide receiver four, And in Watson's rookie year, in the

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Speaker 4: games that he started weeks two through eight, Hopkins was

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Speaker 4: wide receiver one. So not only has Watson never given

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Speaker 4: us lower than the top seven fantasy performance, but his

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Speaker 4: number one receiver has never given us lower than a

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Speaker 4: top seven fantasy performance. So and you're not gonna have

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Speaker 4: to pay that for Cooper regardless. You know he's going

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Speaker 4: to be drafted no higher than a wide receiver too.

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Speaker 4: So he is a guy that I'm bullish on and

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Speaker 4: I think he has a ton of upside here because

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Speaker 4: again I think you know, as you mentioned, they probably

644
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Speaker 4: will open it up a little bit in this offense.

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Speaker 4: So as long as Watson's out there, I love I

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Speaker 4: love me some Cooper for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: You totally convinced me.

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Speaker 4: super sexy, but I think they got a good player.

657
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: What do you think?

658
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting one. Like you said, not

659
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: super sexy. He's coming off of that solid year four breakout.

660
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Real didn't just shy of a thousand yards and finished

661
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: as the wide receiver twenty four. Very quietly, I think

662
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: this is a downgrade for Kirk from the Cardinals just

663
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: because how explosive Kyler has been and that offense has been.

664
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: And he certainly has the chance though to you know,

665
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 2: emerge as as alpha on a depth chart that's not

666
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: super impressive. That's gonna be, say Jones, Marvin Jones, Laviska

667
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Schnault rip. It was like Quand Treadmill and Jamal Agnewdill.

668
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has been running in place for his entire career.

669
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean for Trevor Lawrence, this this

670
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: could be a good thing. Like like you kind of

671
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: alluded to you earlier, there could be some like post

672
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: type sleeper dip that you can buy with the Jaguars

673
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: because like we were so high on them before and

674
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: now we're writing them all off after urban Meyer kind

675
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: of takes that team. So Trevor Lawrence was QB twenty

676
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: three last season, and he could be a solid QB

677
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: two option if this offense starts to function like an

678
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: NFL offense.

679
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: So right now, Kirk's going as a wide receiver four

680
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: in Fantasy outside the top thirty six. Maybe that'll change,

681
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: but I'm actually willing to take him in that spot.

682
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: He's still young. He last year he played seventy eight

683
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: percent of his snaps in the slot. The year before

684
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: eighty four percent of his snaps out wide, So he

685
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: can play insoud outside. He was you know, thirty eighth

686
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: of one hundred and three qualified wide receivers in yards

687
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: per route run against man coverage last year, so he

688
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: can beat man coverage.

689
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: You can move him around.

690
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: So he's a guy you could draft as a wide

691
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: receiver for that could be the wide receiver one for

692
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: his team, which then gives him you know, wide receiver

693
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: two upside, because I think Trevor Lawrence can take a

694
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: huge jump in his first offseason without urban Meyer. This

695
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: is a you know what, top overall selection, and really

696
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: the alpha position is still there for the take. And

697
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: I mean Marvin Jones did turn it on at certain

698
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: points last year.

699
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: He didn't look completely washed.

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: I think it was more function of the offense and

701
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: his relationship with with urban Meyer. But there's it's not

702
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: out of the question that Kirk could be the alpha

703
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: guy that can move around, you know, get get the

704
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: you know, ideal matchups, favorable matchups, you know, by moving

705
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: him around beat Man coverage.

706
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot to like with Christian Kirk, who's.

707
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: Just entering his prime now, Like we might not have

708
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: even seen his best year yet, even though he's going

709
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: to a team that you know, everyone's gonna kind of

710
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: intuitively right off because they've been so bad. So I

711
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: like this for for Jacksonville, and I like it just

712
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: as a value pick. Obviously a lot of things change

713
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: by the time we get to August, but right now

714
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: he looks like a value.

715
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: To me as long as he doesn't impact Dan Arnold

716
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: stock as our favorite Titan on this podcast.

717
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that's obviously Evan Ingram will impact that.

718
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that. But yeah, it might be

719
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: over for my god, Dan Arnold, I don't know, all right,

720
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: Kansas City, So now you know, we'll kind of talk

721
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: about the other side of the Tyreek Hill move to Miami,

722
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: and that is that Kansas City has vacated two hundred

723
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: and sixty targets between Hill, DeMarcus Robinson, and Byron Pringle.

724
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: So we got Juju here, and then we just got

725
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: word that Marquez Valdez Scantling signed.

726
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: For too much money with the Chiefs.

727
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: So I mean two hundred and sixty targets a lot

728
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: of targets.

729
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 3: What do you think?

730
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Yeah, it's an obviously obviously an upgrade for Juju,

731
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: going from a aging Ben Roethlisberger to Patrick Mahomes in

732
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: his prime.

733
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 1: There's certainly less competition on this depth chart.

734
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like if you combined the prowess of like

735
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Nicole Hardman MVS and Josh Gordon, you would not get

736
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: like a fraction of Travis Kelce. So yeah, I mean,

737
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: like could definitely resurrect as a wide receiver three in

738
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: his second act here In terms of MVS, I just

739
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: can't wait for people to overdraft him and think that

740
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: he's just going to be this like sexy name as

741
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 2: the wide receiver two. But he's had that opportunity in

742
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: a lot of situations with the Packers like to really

743
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: get that wide receiver twoe role, and I think he's

744
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: going to end up being like a Sammy Watkins guy

745
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: that like bloom or Bus guy that's going to give

746
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: us three touchdowns in one game and then goes silent

747
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year.

748
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like as of now, and obviously they could

749
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: make a move and though I don't know how, you know,

750
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: as far as an established player, I don't really know

751
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 4: what more they could do. Maybe maybe an Odell Beckham,

752
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: but obviously they might have to address the position in

753
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: the draft. But right now it looks like you can

754
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: to have Valdez scant Wing on the outside one outside

755
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: spot and then Hardman and Smith Schuster as you're starting

756
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: three wide receivers, which I mean that is a big downgrade.

757
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: But you know, you know, for Juju, he gets Travis

758
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: Kelce and we have seen him have success when he

759
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: has another, you know, elite weapon around him. You know,

760
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: the years with Antonio Brown were some of his best,

761
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 4: so there is some upside here. But I mean, he's

762
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: average eight point six yards per catch the last two years,

763
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: so I can't really get too excited about Juju. But

764
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: I will be paying attention to the training camp reports.

765
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 4: Are they using him exclusively in the slot? Are they

766
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: planning to increase his average depth of target? I think

767
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: these things will be really important to where Juju could be,

768
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: you know, a value play or it could be overdrafted

769
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: just because of, you know, the quarterback.

770
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: So I'm just looking.

771
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: Forward to these Brittany Matthews, Juju, TikTok Collabs, Corvette No.

772
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 3: No, Mahomes brother. What's his name, Jackson Mahomes.

773
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson Mahomes will be incorporated to I'm sure it's.

774
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Going to be the TikTok team.

775
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: Ah Man. Yeah, that's where we are now.

776
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: Without Tyreek, we're just like all from a Super Bowl

777
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: contender to a good TikTok team.

778
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: That's literally are in twenty twenty two.

779
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: All right, So wide receiver obviously, we could spend all

780
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: day here, we might devote a whole podcast in the

781
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: future to just talking about some more of the implications

782
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: of the wide receiver moves, but we do want to

783
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: get to tight end. So just give us kind of

784
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: the other wide receivers that have changed teams this offseason.

785
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've got Russell Gage going to the Bucks, DJ

786
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 2: Chark going to the Lions, Jamison crowd Are going to Buffalo.

787
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: I thought that one was pretty interesting. James Washington signing

788
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: with Dallas, Zach passed Out going to Philadelphia. I thought

789
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: that one was also interesting too, with his connection with

790
00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni Carolina signing, Richard Higgins, Pittsburgh signing Oshefsky. San

791
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Francisco is signing Ray Ray McLeod, Chicago signing Byron Prinkle,

792
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: and Equanomous Saint Brown as well.

793
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of a lot of crazy wide receiver names, huh,

794
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: amongst the guys that probably won't matter at all.

795
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: Ever, I feel like Zach Pascal will give us like

796
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: one good game that we can stream, so like that

797
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: that's probably the best we can get from this group.

798
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: And maybe, you know, if Chris Godwin and his ACL

799
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: situation is like causes him to miss games, maybe.

800
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: Russell Gage could be interesting.

801
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the one that I'm intrigued.

802
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: Back.

803
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: I could see Russell Gage having a lot of like

804
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: ten catch eighty five yard no touchdown games with Tom Brady, right, Like,

805
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: you know, it'll get the job done. It'll get the

806
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: job done, Chark, I worry about a little bit just

807
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: because our boy aman Ross Saint Brown is so good,

808
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: so I think he's going to kind of hog the targets.

809
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: And you still got Howkins in there, so you know,

810
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: that's one not super excited about.

811
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Gauge is.

812
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 4: The one out of the guys we mentioned that I'm

813
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: kind of looking forward to in fantasy. All right, let's

814
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: close things out with tight end and I. We'll start

815
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: with Austin Hooper going to the Tennessee Titans from the

816
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: Cleveland brown So finally got David Najoku freed up, and

817
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: the Titans finally got a viable tight end or pass

818
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: catching tight end one.

819
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

820
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: I think that Hooper was criminally underutilized with the Browns.

821
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: He was always a guy that I felt like.

822
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Could be something.

823
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, he could definitely see an expanded role with

824
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: the Titans. Though their offense we've mentioned already is pretty

825
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: run heavy, so not a ton of targets to go around, but.

826
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: They've also got aj Brown and Robert Woods.

827
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: He finished as the titand twenty four last year and

828
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: tight end twenty one the year prior, but that's also

829
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: just because he was used in a totally different role.

830
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: So I think this is going to be an upgrade

831
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: for him just based on the situation and Tannehill being

832
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: better than Baker Mayfield.

833
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, ceiling is still probably low end tight end one

834
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: at absolute best. I mean, last year Titans top tight

835
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: end was Ferkser. He was a tight end forty six

836
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: the year before, John new was the t E ten

837
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: and then Delaney Walker about half the season with the

838
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: tight end sixteen points per game in twenty nineteen, and

839
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 4: John who got a little boost once Walker was out.

840
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: But you kind of mentioned it.

841
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: They're still run heavy and Hooper is not really a great,

842
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: you know blocker, So I still wonder, you know, where

843
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: his you know, routes per drop back, his snap rate

844
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: is going to end up. I think he'll be used

845
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: more like Ferkser than like this every down you know,

846
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: eighty ninety percent snap guy that he was in in

847
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: Atlanta a couple of years ago. So I don't think

848
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna be too fantasy relevant outside of maybe like

849
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: a bye crunch type situation. And that's kind of the

850
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: theme for most of these tight ends that have changed teams. Uh.

851
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: The next one, Gerald Everett. He goes from the Seahawks

852
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: to the Chargers.

853
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much in that low end tight end two

854
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: tier for me.

855
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is a somewhat lateral move.

856
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: The offense is better on the Chargers than the Seahawks

857
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: was last year, but there are a lot of mouths

858
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: to feed on that offense. I mean, we've definitely seen

859
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: Titands be productive on the Chargers. But again, I'm not

860
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: going to put him higher than a low end tight

861
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: end too, going to be undrafted in most people's leagues.

862
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gared Cook, the Chargers top tight end, was a

863
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: tight end nineteen last year, and Everett was a tight

864
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: end twent So lateral move hits the nail on the head.

865
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: Hayden Hurst goes from the Falcons to the Cincinnati Bengals, They,

866
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: of course Lucy j U Soma to the Jets. So

867
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you think of this one with

868
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: Hurst teaming up with Joe Burrow.

869
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's an upgrade, but it's it's not a

870
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: super relevant one. I mean, Luzama was the tight end

871
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: sixteen last year, so maybe I mean, like, Hurst had

872
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: his moments, but he was obviously completely eclipsed by Kyle

873
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Speaker 2: Pitts in his ridiculous rookie season. Hurst is one year

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Speaker 2: removed from a Titan nine finish though in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: so he will be the Titan one. There still another

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Speaker 2: guy that I think is going to go undrafted in

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Speaker 2: most leagues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another guy. He'll have his weeks.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you mentioned Uzoma then that mid range tight

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00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: end two uh in terms of production, so I think

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00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: that's kind of what we expect from Herst. So he

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00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 4: will in all likelihood get a bump from his fifty

883
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 4: percent snap rate you know a year ago. So maybe

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00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: some some upside, but as of now, I think there

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00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: are a lot better options. Noah, Fan, he goes and

886
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: takes that top role now in Seattle, and I think,

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Speaker 4: as you mentioned, it's probably the best news there is

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00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: probably for Albert Okawevunam in Denver than it is you know,

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00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: good news for Fan, you know in the Seahawk.

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00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fan's been on that like fringe titand one thing

891
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: for a couple of years, and this now really knocks

892
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Speaker 2: him outside of it. I mean, the O line's worst

893
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: in Seattle, no real solution at quarterback yet didn't see

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: much production from Gerald Everett last year forty eight catches

895
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: for four hundred and seventy eight yards, So overall this

896
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: ends up being a downgrade for him, and Alberto get

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00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: gets a pretty significant bump.

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Speaker 4: I think all right, closed out with the rest of

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Speaker 4: the tight end movement.

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Speaker 3: This off season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as you mentioned cj Uzama going to the Jets,

902
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: as well as Tyler Conklin another compliment of not super

903
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: impressive dudes. But Jacksonville is signing Evan Ingram, if he

904
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Speaker 2: can ever stay healthy, that could be maybe interesting. Buffalo

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Speaker 2: getting Oj Howard, the Giants signing Ricky Steals Jones. He

906
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: was a guy that was somewhat interesting last year for

907
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: a couple games with Washington, Eric Tomlinson signing with the Broncos,

908
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: Garrett Griffin signing with the Lions, Jacob Polliser signing with

909
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and Johnny mund signing with the Vikings any

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00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: points there now, I.

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Speaker 4: Think Ingram probably the most interesting, and just Oj Howard

912
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Speaker 4: of Buffalo because that signifies that you know they may

913
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: be going to more that two tight end look that

914
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 4: they had success was down the stretch to last year,

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00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: which it's good news for Gabe Davis because I think

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Speaker 4: he'll be that outside receiver, but kind of means Jamison

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Speaker 4: Crowder maybe not as exciting as he would have been.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, if this happened going into last year, just

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Speaker 4: because I think Buffalo not looking to be this four

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Speaker 4: wide team necessarily anymore so, that's that's the.

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Speaker 3: One that kind of caught my attention. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: We got through a lot on this podcast, so thank

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Speaker 4: you guys for listening. Hopefully we caught you up to date.

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Speaker 4: Keep it locked for the channel.

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Speaker 3: We'll start hitting.

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