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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From house stuff Works dot Com. Hey, Aaron, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Molly Molly. Quick question,

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Speaker 1: don't even think Edward or Bill. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: who those people are. What where have you been? Have

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Speaker 1: you been under a rock? You don't have a preference

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Speaker 1: for Edward Cullen or Bill Bill Molly? All right, Evidently

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Speaker 1: Molly has not um joined in with a vampire craze.

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I think I'm the only one that made

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Speaker 1: research for this podcast really hard. Yeah, I'm referring to

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Speaker 1: Edward Colin, the sparkly dreamy vampire starring in the Twilight series,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Suki stack Houses vampire lover in the Southern

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Speaker 1: Vampire series that is now been turned into a show

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Speaker 1: on HBO called True Blood. Yeah. I do feel left out.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like maybe I should get on the

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Speaker 1: vampire train. Yeah, because everywhere I turned, people are talking

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Speaker 1: about how, hey, vampires are everywhere, vampires everywhere, And when

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Speaker 1: we were asking for reading lists, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many times we got women saying, hey, yeah, I'm reading

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Speaker 1: always a little sheepish about it, like I just doing

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Speaker 1: it for fun. It's just beach reading. But you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there's a juicy stuff. So we're in the midst

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Speaker 1: of a vampire craze. There's this new vampire teen show.

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Speaker 1: It's like Dawson's Creek with vampires, which makes me a

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Speaker 1: little bit intrigued by that. Um and Molly and I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to know why are women so attracted to vampires?

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Speaker 1: Because they're undead, Like, let's remember that thanks, that would

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Speaker 1: hurt exactly. Yeah, a lot of reasons against being attracted

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Speaker 1: to vampires, but nevertheless we are so, as has has

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Speaker 1: become apparently clear, I do not I do not really

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Speaker 1: know much about vampires. So we had to go to

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Speaker 1: an expert. And boy did we find an expert. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we found the author of the Southern Vampire series and

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Speaker 1: a whole host of other novels, Charlene Harris. So we

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Speaker 1: asked her, why are women attracted to vampires? I think

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Speaker 1: that women are very attracted to the idea of someone

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Speaker 1: who has been around for years and years, and presumably

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Speaker 1: having made love for all of those years. Is someone

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Speaker 1: who is very talented and understanding about the woman's point

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Speaker 1: of view when it comes to having sex. Whoa Charlene. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Charlene thinks women are attracted to vampires because they've

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Speaker 1: got hundreds of years of love making under their belt,

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Speaker 1: which not about argument, not about argument. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: have been around for centuries, so they have had time

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Speaker 1: to perfect their skills. But I mean, do you really

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Speaker 1: want a philanderer? That's true, Molly. But also I think

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Speaker 1: sexuality in these vampire tales. We were reading one criticism

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Speaker 1: because of his vampire status. But is it a statement

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Speaker 1: on how all female sexuality is dangerous? Yeah. And one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why Stephanie Meyer even wrote the Twilight

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why some parents have lashed onto

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Speaker 1: and it's great. But at the same time, Edward might

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Speaker 1: not be the best boyfriend even if they aren't sexually active,

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Speaker 1: because he's incredibly overprotective and at one point he even

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Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting about that quote to me,

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Speaker 1: Kristen is that when you go back and look through history,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the folklore that people think eventually

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Speaker 1: So like Lamosty, she goes over and steals all the

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Speaker 1: the thing about me calling myself a dork, well, Molly mean,

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Speaker 1: I was a dork when I went to private high school,

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Speaker 1: And I think that maybe we make jokes about homeschooling

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