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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we do

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Speaker 1: everything perfectly legal. It's me and your randomg Marcus graduated

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Speaker 1: by Michael Flooryo and LaQuan Jones Florya. We were discussing

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Speaker 1: before you got here, before the show, what is more illegal? Oh, no, download,

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Speaker 1: downloading music or faking an address to go to a

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Speaker 1: different school.

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Speaker 2: I don't think either one of those things should be illegal,

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Speaker 2: but I guess it would be downloading music because you're

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Speaker 2: kind of taking money from people like I played the

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Speaker 2: fifth though I've never done either one of those things

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Speaker 2: in my life.

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Speaker 1: I've paid. I've paid for every single piece of music

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Speaker 1: I own.

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Speaker 3: I never downloaded Limeyer never.

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Speaker 2: There was a period where people started cracking down on that,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, do I need to be worried?

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Speaker 1: Like they were gonna come after like.

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Speaker 2: Seventh grade me.

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Speaker 1: You know, Well, here's the thing. I remember stories of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the FBI took it in college dorm rooms

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Speaker 1: and like dragging you know, sophomores away or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, should always be.

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Speaker 2: The uploaders getting in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just trying to enjoy I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: do trying to download the chronic and hope it's actually

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Speaker 1: the chronic by the time I download the whole two

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Speaker 1: weeks later, right exactly. Anyway, that's not what the show

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Speaker 1: is about. We're gonna talk some fantasy football. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we have a little bit of hype train or smoke screen.

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Speaker 1: On a Monday show. We actually talked about the King's

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Speaker 1: Classic Snake Draft that I participated in. We also will

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Speaker 1: talk about the Auction Draft that Florio participated in, some

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Speaker 1: of the picks he made, and some of the values

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Speaker 1: that we saw across the board in that one. But

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Speaker 1: first is always want to get started with some news,

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Speaker 1: and Michael lef Floyo, it appears that your short regional

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Speaker 1: nightmare is over. James Cook and the Buffalo Bills have

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Speaker 1: agreed to terms on a four year, forty eight million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract. I think we all sort of knew that

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Speaker 1: it was going to end depth that the two sides

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Speaker 1: would come to an agreement at some point. It was

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Speaker 1: just a matter of how long it was going to take.

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Speaker 1: And thankfully it didn't really take all that long. Right now,

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Speaker 1: James Cook kind of a third round pick. Lakwan and

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Speaker 1: I were saying earlier, it feels kind of like everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like this was gonna have a happy ending,

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Speaker 1: and so that's where the ADP is. But now that

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Speaker 1: he's officially signed, would you be willing to bump him

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Speaker 1: up your draft board at all?

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Speaker 2: So I have him ranked right abound around where he

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Speaker 2: is going. I could see like pushing him ahead of

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Speaker 2: like maybe Breese Hall, who is all reports are that

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Speaker 2: he's splitting a lot of work and we did see

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Speaker 2: that in the preseason. But it's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: push him up too much higher than that because I

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Speaker 2: I think I haven't ranked him like, oh no, he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be there. I ranked him as like this

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Speaker 2: is all systems go, because from the start it just

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Speaker 2: made too much sense. There wasn't a situation where the

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Speaker 2: Bills are better without James Cook. There wasn't a situation

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Speaker 2: out there better for James Cook than staying with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: So I have kind of ranked him as if this

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Speaker 2: was going to happen. And yeah, I know last year

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Speaker 2: he finished higher than where he ranked, but right around

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Speaker 2: RB twelve thirteen. That feels about right for me.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things I think about James Cook,

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Speaker 1: part of the reason he's in the third round, Lakwan,

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Speaker 1: is that he has never really been a three down back.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the Bills are trying to sell us

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Speaker 1: on this idea that he's going to be a three

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Speaker 1: down back. Are you buying any of that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's keep it a bean. I might be buying that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do think that they're looking at him

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Speaker 3: as hey, we paid you the bag, we're gonna treat

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Speaker 3: you as such. But I think they're honestly looking at

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Speaker 3: what Joe Brady has been able to do with James Cook.

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Speaker 3: And since he's taken over James Cook, we have seen

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Speaker 3: the best version of him. We've seen him get plenty

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Speaker 3: of opportunities in the goal line area and be able

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Speaker 3: to succeed in the red zone, to be able to

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Speaker 3: have those sixteen touchdowns. I do think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm buying a little bit of it, because again, they've

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Speaker 3: rewarded him in the bag. He feels as though he

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Speaker 3: the GM keeping the bean, he's going to be able

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Speaker 1: You see, because the GM is named Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you see bean Ah, you like that. I don't

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Speaker 3: with a little East Coast flavor for you.

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Speaker 1: We're just weaving things together here on this show. That's

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Speaker 1: what we do. Yeah. Look, I I haven't drafted a

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Speaker 1: because the Bills have told us that they don't like

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Speaker 1: him as a three down back. The Bills have told

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Speaker 1: us they kind of want to work guys in. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's value there on a team that's going

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Speaker 1: to score a lot of points, that's gonna win a

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Speaker 1: lot of games, and he's going to be a big

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Speaker 1: part of that. But I just haven't found myself particularly.

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Speaker 1: I say, I'm not reaching for him if if he

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Speaker 1: falls to me, you know, in the natural course of

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Speaker 1: the draft, and I'm willing to kind of take the

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Speaker 1: to target him.

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Speaker 2: There was a point this summer where he was going

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Speaker 2: in the fourth round pretty concent insistantly, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna keep taking him there. Like, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we saw in the playoffs that James Cook

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Speaker 2: And Bean said that today, he was like, we think

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Speaker 2: he is a three down back, but we don't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I always just think it's important to sort of

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Speaker 1: listen to what the team is telling us, you know,

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Speaker 1: not just with their words, but also with their actions

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Speaker 1: Cook's career with the Bill says they just don't want

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Speaker 1: should adjust accordingly. In Green Bay, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: issues here. Jordan Love expected to undergo a procedure on

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Speaker 1: he is not expected to miss Week one. In fact,

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Speaker 1: there's a talk that he may be back next week

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Speaker 1: for preseason games or preseason workouts, So that seems very

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Speaker 1: very minimal. A little bit more of a concern. Christian

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Speaker 1: season and on the pupp list, which means the Packers

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Speaker 1: are right now down to seventeen healthy wide receivers on

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Speaker 1: their roster, only seventeen it's in only seventeen He's trying

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Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver room that I think we're all

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Speaker 1: generally avoiding just because there are so many guys and

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Speaker 1: they spread the ball around. Lukwan, you are higher on

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs than most people I think across that industry.

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Speaker 1: So does this mean Josh Jacobs officially rockets to the

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Speaker 3: I think it's already wheels up for him. But absolutely

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Speaker 3: when you got all the wide receivers banged up right now,

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Speaker 3: I mean you've seen the video of Jayden Reed doing

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Speaker 3: push ups in a walking boot. I mean, like, this

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Speaker 3: guy's committed to prove that he is the big dog

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Speaker 3: of the room. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: all these guys stay banged up. But looking at Josh

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Speaker 3: Jacobs last year, I get that he's not the sexy

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Speaker 3: This guy had sixteen hundred yards, he had sixteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: and we're looking at a guy that showed he could

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Speaker 3: be an explosive back. Still there is no signs of

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Speaker 3: declining in his yards per carry and any of the

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Speaker 3: situation that you look at in the backfield. There is

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Speaker 3: really nobody back there able to take these touches away

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Speaker 3: from him. And look, only five running backs last season

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Speaker 3: were responsible for forty percent of their team touches. Josh

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, Jean Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, and kyn Williams. So

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Speaker 3: again him going outside the top ten running backs right now,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little confused. Was that last name you said,

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Speaker 3: Kyron Williams. Yes, Willis was part of that forty percent,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, But I do not think that's going

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Speaker 3: to be true this season though.

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Speaker 1: I just love getting him to talk about his own player.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Kyron over Josh personally.

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Speaker 1: What that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy talk, man.

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Speaker 1: So you said you had a theory, by the way, Florio,

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Speaker 1: of why it is that people just aren't in on Josh. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So me and a buddy of ours of mine that

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Speaker 2: I share a team with, we're getting ready for a

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Speaker 2: draft and we have the number one pick. So we're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're taking Jim ar Chase and we were

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Speaker 2: talking about grabbing a running back on the two three

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Speaker 2: turn and who could realistically be there, and Josh Jacobs was.

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Speaker 2: It was like Chase Brown, Kyrien Williams, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, and we were like, Josh Jacobs probably goes

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Speaker 2: the last of that bunch for us because he's not

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Speaker 2: sexy at all, and even last year fifteen rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 2: a career high, He's the RB eight in Fantasy points

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Speaker 2: per game. I think that is the difference to me,

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Speaker 2: Like Josh Jacob's floor might be one of it is

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Speaker 2: one of the safest at the running back position, but

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Speaker 2: the ceiling is not all that much higher. Like I

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Speaker 2: think all of those running backs in that range bring

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Speaker 2: a bit of a higher ceiling. Like Jonathan Taylor, we've

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Speaker 2: seen finish as the RB one before. Bucky Irving was

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Speaker 2: really great last year as a rookie. We've seen Kyrien

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Speaker 2: Williams do it at a very high level. He was

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Speaker 2: the RB two in points per game just a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. So I think that is the difference,

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Speaker 2: But I am willing to because I feel like I

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Speaker 2: have a personal bias towards Josh Jacobs and I'm always

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Speaker 2: like kind of lower on him than most. So I

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Speaker 2: was sicking last night. I was like, is this a

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Speaker 2: me problem?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: And I came in and I said it before. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I am willing to change my tune on

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, but I don't. I just keep going back

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Speaker 2: to that He's just not very exciting.

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Speaker 1: So would it change your mind at all? If I

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Speaker 1: reminded you that Josh Jacobs was the RB one in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two with the Raiders when you had sixteen

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Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards and was.

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Speaker 2: It, well, he's the RB three and per game then

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one hundred yards and twelve rushing touch

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Speaker 1: Yeah to me.

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Speaker 2: I always look back at that year as the outlier,

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Speaker 2: but last year he did it, so yeah.

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Speaker 3: And and the Packers are a top five rushing offense.

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Speaker 3: And I get that it might have been an outlier

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Speaker 3: that they ran the ball that much. But if it

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Speaker 3: ain't bro, why fix it? I mean, Josh Jacobs has

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Speaker 2: I CMC being out is what really propelled Kittle because

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Speaker 1: All right, time for a little bit of preseason hype

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Speaker 1: at a time to come up with some headlines that

436
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Speaker 1: you know may or may not actually come to fruition here.

437
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Speaker 1: So the first one, DJ Moore says he is open

438
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: to the what he's calling daunting task of lining up

439
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 1: at running back, saying that Ben Jonson's trying to do

440
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: different things move him around, and that he's lining up

441
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 1: occasionally at running back. Now. I will also freely admit

442
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of what he's doing at running back

443
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: is just running routes. They're not asking him to take handoffs.

444
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they will occasionally. Florio is just really gonna be

445
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: a thing, Hype Trader smoke screen on DJ Moore being

446
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: like a useful, not useful, but consistently used piece at

447
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: running back.

448
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: That's a smoke screen. I think we could see it occasionally.

449
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be a consistent thing. But what

450
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: I think we could see from DJ Moore is him

451
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: utilized all over the field, Like I think we could

452
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,719
Speaker 2: see him play the X, the Y in the slot,

453
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: like he he is that good where he could win

454
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: from anywhere. And you have Roma Doonsday, who's more a

455
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: traditional expert receiver out wide Luthor Burden more traditional out

456
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 2: of the slot, but like he is that chess piece

457
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: and the Bears are one of the teams that I'm

458
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Speaker 2: most going after this year. Like I have DJ Moore ranked,

459
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: I believe I have him as my wide receiver thirteen

460
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 2: or fourteen. Yet ADP he's going like twenty three to

461
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm a little bit higher on a Donsay

462
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: than consensus DeAndre Swift, So like, yeah, maybe if it

463
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: feels dirty a little bit, because the Bears have never

464
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: been a good passing attack ever in the history of life.

465
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: But like I think Ben Johnson changes things.

466
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Speaker 1: A lot this year. I think he changes things a

467
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: lot too. I Mean I've gone on record saying that

468
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 1: this is the year they finally get a four thousand

469
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: yard passer, that Caleb Williams is going to finally break

470
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: that curse. I have been very big on Romo Doonsay.

471
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: I haven't drafted a lot of Dj Moore and hasn't

472
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Speaker 1: necessarily been a purposeful avoidance thing. I just haven't necessarily

473
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Speaker 1: drafted him, but I have been in a spot to

474
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Speaker 1: get a Dunsay a lot. I'm very excited about him.

475
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, Lakwa when we hear stuff like this,

476
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: like it feels like wide receiver moving to running back

477
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: is the new version of the running back who's going

478
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: to line up out on the slot. Right, That's exactly

479
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: what I was thinking that that is the Batman smoke

480
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: screen right there, right in your face.

481
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: And like, I think we'll probably see it like once

482
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Speaker 3: or twice this season where he catches a pat I

483
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: mean he runs a route of the backfield and kind

484
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: of catches it very running back like or him getting

485
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Speaker 3: a handoff. Like, I don't think it will be at

486
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: a high rate enough for us to be like super

487
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: excited about this news, but I am going to mirror

488
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Speaker 3: what you know Florio said. It is just basically like

489
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: he's gonna be used everywhere the versatility he brings, and

490
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: he's one of the best after to catch as well.

491
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Speaker 3: So it's like I'm looking at DJ Moore as my

492
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Speaker 3: wide receiver twelve of my rankings that I am very

493
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Speaker 3: high on him to be one of those guys that

494
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: we have in the conversations of the DK Metcalfs and

495
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: the the Nico Collins and Drake London's and like, I

496
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: do feel like you know he gets looked at as

497
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: a wide receiver too, but I think this is a

498
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver one season for him.

499
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that could definitely be the case too,

500
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: right if the offense goes the way we expect it

501
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: to go. I think the other part of this is

502
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: the like one hundred and twenty some on targets or

503
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 1: whatever it was that that Keenan Allen vacated. They're not

504
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: gonna all go to one person, but you gotta believe

505
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: DJ Moore is gonna get a few extra. Romo Dunese

506
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: may get a few extra, like Luther Burden will certainly

507
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 1: get his. But I would like to think that the

508
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: top two receivers who have already been there are gonna

509
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: be the ones to display.

510
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: And people forget that Caleb distributed the ball like evenly

511
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: amongst the three wide receivers, all three of them had

512
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: one hundred plus targets. So I definitely think it's possible,

513
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 3: you know, we can get a little bit more versatility

514
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: at DJ Moore to be manufactured touches. So I'm all

515
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: on board at that. Like, I don't know what people

516
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 3: are doing, man, they're sleeping on DJ Moore this season.

517
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Speaker 2: To Laquan's point. I know it's gonna be different with

518
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, but last year, not only did they distribute

519
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: the ball well, like it was kind of clear like

520
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: in the red zone, Okay, Roma Duneesday, that is where

521
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: you're going to shine more of a downfield guns or

522
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: like yeah, guy, that's where DJ Moore was gonna come in.

523
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: So like I trust Ben Johnson to because they're very

524
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: different skill sets, I trust Ben Johnson to put each

525
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: player in the bed. Like He's not going to force

526
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: a player to do something that he wants them to do.

527
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: He's gonna scheme up what's the best case scenario for

528
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Speaker 2: that player.

529
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Speaker 1: Every year there's a coach that you your reports, Hey

530
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: this this coach is working to his player's strengths. And

531
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, that's what a good should work, right,

532
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess what was happening before. Well,

533
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: here's the It wasn't happening like that before. I mean,

534
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like, Okay, you're coming into

535
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: our system, you're coming into our office. We want you

536
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: to fit what we do. And you know, I mean

537
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: sometimes it would work because if you scouted well and

538
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: you recruit, you know, and you you drafted well, you

539
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: could get guys to fit your system, But more often

540
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: than that, why not build around what your guys do well?

541
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: Like we treated as revolutionary when it's just like, yeah, yeah.

542
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: If you're like Sean Payton, you you ever earned the

543
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: right to be like I want you guys who fit

544
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: my system. But if you're a first time head coach,

545
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: get out of here.

546
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Speaker 1: If you're in a fan packet, yeah you know, yeah,

547
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: maybe work around your guys a little bit more.

548
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: He's man four years now.

549
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: Side note to that everybody said this at the time

550
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: on this show. That like when all the other coaches

551
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: were upset about Sean Payton throwing Thethaniel Hacket under the bus,

552
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: nobody said he was wrong. Yes, everybody like everyone was

553
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, like, don't maybe don't say it

554
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: out loud.

555
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: That's not we don't say that to the medium. But

556
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: no one was like, man, he's a he's a really.

557
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: Good Nobody actually stood up for him, and nobody actually fit.

558
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: They're just like, hey, man, like this, just don't say

559
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: that out loud, you know, something like that. Travis Kelce

560
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: admits that acting and being an entertainer impacted his NFL performance.

561
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: We could sort of watch Travis Kelcey last year and

562
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: realize that he wasn't the same player he had been

563
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: a few years.

564
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: When did he say this?

565
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: He said this a couple of days ago on his pod.

566
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Speaker 2: And then released a whole photo shoot looking like Razor Ramote.

567
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Maybe be consistent with your messaging. I'm just saying, you know,

568
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: I will give.

569
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: Him a little bit of a pass figuring that the

570
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: photo shoot happened like a while ago, probably, but I

571
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: just got but yeah, the time, the timing is not great. Yeah,

572
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: timing's not great.

573
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: Also, you're still married to or or engage or the

574
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: engage dating something to. There's no world where he could

575
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: just shut that part of his life out, you know.

576
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he should, but like.

577
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I'm gonna ask you, look on I

578
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: mean high trainer smoke screen that this was because here's

579
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: even as down of a year as it was for him,

580
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: he was still the tight end five. Yeah, so I

581
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: hype trainer smokes, did this? Did you know? Look, he

582
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: was on the Era's tour, he's got the podcast with

583
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: his brother, He's dating a billionaire pop star maybe the

584
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: most fam.

585
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: NFL built the schedule around her schedule.

586
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like literally maybe the most famous woman in

587
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: the world right now, right So are you are you,

588
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the BS flag on this or is

589
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: there something to it?

590
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: Not hype trained?

591
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Man?

592
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: I think this is the Michael Jackson. This is it

593
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: tour for him, So I think he wants to go

594
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: off on a good note. And again where he's going

595
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: in drafts, You're not paying that premium price you used

596
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: to in the past, so I'm not exactly fading him.

597
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: Like if he falls to me in that seventh eighth

598
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: round where he's been going, come on a board, man,

599
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: if you're gonna take accountability and recognize your distractions of

600
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: all field now you want to lock in and lead

601
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: the NFL and retire on a good note. I'm buying

602
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: in because I'm not paying that premium price we used

603
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: to in the past. Like we remember that Travis kelcey

604
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: was going in the back and in the first round

605
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: at one point. I mean, that's a little expensive for

606
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: a tight end. I'm here complaining about McBride and Bowers

607
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: going in the second round right now, So I'm buying it.

608
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: Like Travis Kelcey, Man, do what you want man the

609
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 3: distraction to all field. I don't care. You're cheap right

610
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: now in drafts, and I'm not going to complain.

611
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: All right, how are you feeling about that?

612
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: The exact opposite. I've literally I've done a ton of drafts.

613
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: I've never won straft to Travis Kelce because I say

614
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: it a lot, the age cliff, it happens quick at

615
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: the NFL level. He's gonna be thirty six years old

616
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: this year, coming off of not one but two years

617
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: of declining in a row. And I think what propelled

618
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: him to that tight end finish last year with circumstances

619
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: everyone around him was hurt. There was no Marquis Brown,

620
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: there was no Rashi Rice, there was no Isaiah Pacheco.

621
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy was a rookie. It led to him having

622
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three targets. I if those other

623
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: guys are healthy around him, I don't think he gets plus.

624
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Even with that, it wasn't like a consistent week to

625
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: week thing. He had maybe three or four good, really

626
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: good fantasy weeks. Every other week was more of a

627
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: floor week. And I think the Chiefs, like they always do,

628
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: they care about the playoffs. They want Travis kelce to

629
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: be healthy and be fresh for the playoffs. I think

630
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: that was their plan last year. Remember he came off

631
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: to such a slow start when those other guys were healthy,

632
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: and then once it all kind of broke down, everything

633
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: changed on the fly. But I don't want to have

634
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: invested in someone who I know needs this many volume

635
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: to get eight hundred yards.

636
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I maybe in his mind the acting and the you know,

637
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: world tours or whatever impact is his NFL performance. I

638
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: think what impacted his NFL performance more is just father time.

639
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean just age. He just looked a step or

640
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: two slower than what we were used to see Travis

641
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: Kelcey at his peak. I don't know if you've ever

642
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: paid attention to like when he catches a pass in

643
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and turns around. Yes, he

644
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: turns around like there's a Scooby Doo villain behind him, right,

645
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Like he's just like you expected. Like when he turns around, like,

646
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: that's what I hear in my head. That was in

647
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: the best of times with Travis Kelcey. Now, as you mentioned,

648
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: he's thirty six years old, he's played a ton of games,

649
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: He's taken some wear and tear, because I think it

650
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: can't be discounted that during this run for the Chiefs,

651
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, going to AFC championship games, going to Super Bowls,

652
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls, the Chiefs have probably played almost a

653
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: full season more of games and just about everybody else.

654
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean they're playing three four playoff games a year.

655
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: A year, right, so they have literally played almost a

656
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: full season of games more than just about everybody else

657
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: in the league. I don't care who you are, that

658
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: catches up with you at some point, and so yeah,

659
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he wasn't fully focused on on football.

660
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: I get that when your girlfriend is a billionaire and

661
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: flying you all around the world and you're eating at

662
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: the best restaurants and you're staying at the nights of hotel.

663
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I get it, you know, like

664
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at it. Man, we all wish we

665
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: could live that life to some extent. But I think

666
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: the thing that has impacted him more than anything is

667
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: just he's just getting older and he's just slowing down,

668
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: and it happens to everybody.

669
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: And I don't want to sound like I'm taking shots,

670
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 2: but like he's still podcasting, he's still gonna be to

671
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: tour with Taylor Switt. She has a new album coming.

672
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not gonna take any time.

673
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I saw a post on Blue Sky was her with

674
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: a headset on, and they're like Taylor Swifts of the

675
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: podcast and a whole lot of folks that I don't

676
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: do podcasts like big deal, So am I I think.

677
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Her listeners my might beat hours.

678
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: By me a little bit. Sure, sure, Like.

679
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: All please don't come.

680
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: From like you know, if somebody, if somebody talks trash

681
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: about us on the internet, We're not gonna have a

682
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people like flooding and you know, mentioned bombing.

683
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Those people. You know they're like, well yeah, Twitter, now exactly.

684
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: My wife has been flaying a couple of battles for me.

685
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: So I think I got one of the one of

686
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 3: the troops ready to go.

687
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: You got internet shooters, all right? Cool? Demiko Ryan says,

688
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: John Meshi showed up along a tight competition at Wide Receiver. Look.

689
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: John Meshi's story has been, you know, kind of a frustrating,

690
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: interesting one. You know, obviously had the missy years because

691
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: of health issues, has kind of really battled back, but

692
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: it's never really had an opportunity to be a part

693
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: of the offense here Floria. I know we have our

694
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: own questions about the Houston Texans wide receivers. Do you

695
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: have any real belief that John Metchi can be a

696
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Fantasy relevant guy this year?

697
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: I think he could be relevant for the Texans and

698
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: a great story and a fan favorite and all of that.

699
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't think for Fantasy, at least initially, because Nico

700
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: Collins is your unquestioned one. I think Christian Kirk is

701
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: your two, and that's gonna be your two wide receiver sets.

702
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: And then in three wide receiver sets, there's Jaden Higgins,

703
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: there's Jalen Noel. It's just very crowded. And I said

704
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: this on Fantasy Live Today, Like even for like Higgins

705
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: and Noel, I think it takes an injury for those

706
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: guys to become weekly starters. Like they'll have some weeks

707
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: where they pop. Higgins will catch a touchdown or two

708
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: something like that. You could plug him in a pinch,

709
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: But I think to get enough consistent volume where you're like,

710
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: this guy's an every week starter for me, one of

711
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: those top two guys need to go down.

712
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't. I don't know, LaQuan, it

713
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like there's enough vague, there's not enough snaps,

714
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I think in this offense.

715
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: For John that's the big thing. Yeah, you know, yeah,

716
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: I do think right now he's putting great things on film,

717
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: like he's putting great things on tape to be auditioning

718
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: for another team because the room is very crowded, Like

719
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: it's hard to see him being anywhere near Fantasy relevant

720
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: with this crowded room, the talent that they have, and

721
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: then even the cycle of when you know, he was

722
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: dealing with his difficult times in his rookie year and

723
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: then coming back these these the Texans have drafted you know,

724
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: wide receiver since then, so it's like it's always been

725
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: a constant crowded rooms. So I think he may be auditioning,

726
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: you know, for another home and again he might land

727
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: somewhere where he might have an opportunity to show up

728
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: and show out because he's a very very good player

729
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: and like the stuff that he's doing in preseason right now,

730
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: it's really impressive, creating separation, making the big time catches

731
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 3: like this is everything that we liked him coming out

732
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: of college. So it's like, I do think if he

733
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: finds another place, then we can revisit this conversation.

734
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, you know, and root for him

735
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: to find some success somewhere. Mentioned missed that rookie season

736
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: battling leukemia. Has been able to get back on the field,

737
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't feel like there's room in Houston

738
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: for him despite whatever. Yeah, look, I know the Miko

739
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Ryan's probably cheering for him, but they're just I think

740
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: the reality is that the numbers game is.

741
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Just he's a player's coach. He's supposed to.

742
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's fair. That's absolutely fair. All Right,

743
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: we got an auction draft to talk about Michael if

744
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Florio did an auction for the King's Classic this past

745
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: weekend in Can't Ohio, or we will dive into some

746
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: of his picks. I would tell you this spoiler alert.

747
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: It is the most Florio team ever. It is the

748
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: most Florio team ever. So we will dive into that

749
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: and look at some of the other players and kind

750
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: of where they went and what they what values they

751
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: would for. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy

752
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. So the King's Classic over the weekend happening

753
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: in Can't Ohio was part of the Fantasy Football Expo.

754
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: We talked on Monday about my team in the Snake Draft. Florio,

755
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: you wanted to get in the league. I was like, hey,

756
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: we do two drafts, maybe you could take one of mine.

757
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: You volunteered for the auction.

758
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: I was excited.

759
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I was like you said, you were like, hey, can

760
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: I do the auction? I was like, say, less.

761
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, how long was that draft?

762
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: How long did it take you guys to draft that?

763
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: We were done way faster than because there's two at

764
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: the same time. They started at the same time as us.

765
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: And I was done and I would and some people

766
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: have like seven roster spots left to fill, and I

767
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: was like, I was done. We kicked off at one.

768
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: I was done by three thirty.

769
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad at all.

770
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was preparing for to go to like six

771
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: o'clock at night with the way people were telling me.

772
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I having done that draft and you know in

773
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: the past about three maybe three and a half hours

774
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: is kind of what it would take. So for you

775
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: to get done in two and a half, that's that's excellent.

776
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: I did come in the room early ish, earlyish, and

777
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: and well, at first I think I came in the

778
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: room and you just had one player. You had had Bajon,

779
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: which you got for fifty one dollars. I left, I

780
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: kind of went wandered and talked to some people, came

781
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: back and it was very much you had Bajon, you

782
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: had Tyler Warren, you had aj Brown, you had Justin Field.

783
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is this is totally your squad.

784
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: So the funny thing was I didn't really plan on

785
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: going after Bajon, but Chase Jamar. Chase went for sixty

786
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: and then Bajon is sitting there at fifty and I

787
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'll take a nine dollars

788
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: just and I was like, if he goes up further,

789
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: and then I got him. And I was just sitting

790
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: there for a while, and at one point Bob Long

791
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: was like, you know the you have to spend money, right,

792
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: And then it was like I nominated A J. Brown

793
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: got him, and then Trayvion Fields and Warren all got

794
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: nominated like boom, boom boom, and then Bob was like,

795
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't have up and everyone.

796
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: So you look at the roster, your roster, Jon Robinson,

797
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: uh Tyler Warren, A J. Brown, let's look at your

798
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks first, justin fields, Jared Goff. Are your quarterbacks at

799
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: running back? John Robinson, Trevion Henderson, Jarquist Hunter, Isaiah Pacheco,

800
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Jayden Blue, Elijah Mitchell. There's definitely some uh Lakwan influence.

801
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I think uh in here as well. What was for

802
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: you Lakwan Hunter? I know, I know in the past,

803
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: l Q, you've been an Elijah Mitchell guy. I don't

804
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: know if you still are, but I know in the

805
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: past you have been.

806
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Checko Hancoff.

807
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.

808
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: Smart.

809
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wide receivers A J. Brown, Calvin Ridley, Juwan Jennings, Brandon.

810
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: I you Joshua Palmer, Dante Thornton, and Deontay Johnson. I

811
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: mean definitely the A. J. Brown and Ridley, the Deontay

812
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Johnson Johnson. That's that's that's heavy. That's heavy. Florio.

813
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: I do wish that Ridley was my three and not

814
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: my two. But in a fourteen team league, like I can,

815
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: getting just the players I thought I would get were

816
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: going for way more than I.

817
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Thought they would go for. Yeah, and then your one

818
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: tight end is Tyler Warren. And I'm trying to look

819
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: so I mean, I feel like, you got some some

820
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: pretty good values. The one thing that I noticed, and

821
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: you talked about this after the draft, the quarterback values

822
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: generally speaking were very depressed.

823
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I bought Justin Fields. When I won Justin Fields,

824
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: I should say he was so bow Knicks. Look, Mauricio

825
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: from NFL Mexico snuck in bo Nicks.

826
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Bonix for two dollars.

827
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: He threw that out there, So bo Nicks two dollars

828
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: and no one, no one did so.

829
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: He just he got away as a believer.

830
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: But but then it went Josh. It was Lamar for

831
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 2: twenty six, Josh Allen for twenty four, and Jayden Daniels

832
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: for twenty and then I got Fields for seven, and

833
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, the back, Like that's gonna be a

834
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: good value. And then the only other quarterbacks that win

835
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: more for him were Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow for

836
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: fourteen each, which I think is insane price.

837
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick Mahomes goes for five, Baker Mayfield, I

838
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: see he's at three, Whell Stafford with for two.

839
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: Kyler went for four. I was Caleb for four, Like

840
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: it was much less than I expected. I still love

841
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, but I was like, I wish I got it.

842
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: And at one point it was like I was at

843
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: four dollars for him, and it was like once twice

844
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: so and then so it was like five and then six,

845
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, come on, you couldn't have just

846
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: let me have him. I'm getting him either way. It's

847
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: just a matter for how much.

848
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: I mean. I like, I looked because you spent seven

849
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: dollars on Justin Fields and Nate Markham from Fantasy and

850
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: frames uh spent six on three quarterbacks combined. Yeah, I

851
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: was looking at Dak Prescott for four, Anthony Richardson and

852
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert for a buck. Justin Herbert for a buck.

853
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: Man Like, yeah, I don't.

854
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: He did work.

855
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: Nate did turn to me and was like, I wish

856
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: I went to eight on Fields, but yeah, no, he

857
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: got He got fantastic value there. And I liked getting

858
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: golf because I like pairing a safe quarterback with someone

859
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: like Fields, because Fields is all upside. Jared Goff, I

860
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: think is gonna be one of my more drafted quarterbacks

861
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: this year because you're getting him out a two. I

862
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: know a lot has changed in Detroit, but that still

863
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: feels like his floor.

864
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at.

865
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Dollars of value as well. That's that same floor block

866
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: Party had a dollar.

867
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, block Party at a dollar is interesting. I'm also

868
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: looking I look at Ian Hartz's roster, where twenty two

869
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: for Travis Hunter, twenty eight for Tech McMillon sort of geez,

870
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: opens my eyes. You know, I like Travis Hunter, so

871
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: the twenty two I sort of get. I know, there's

872
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement about him. Twenty eight for Tech

873
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: mc millon that surprises.

874
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Twenty four for pickings, twenty five for something, and they

875
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: all happened like all the big name receivers were still

876
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: on the board when Ian was was getting these guys.

877
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: It was a joke in the room that like Ian

878
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: had his full roster filled out and he had like

879
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: four dollars left. Well, everyone else had like three players

880
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: on their team. He was the most aggressive one in

881
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: that room by far.

882
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did walk in there and just felt like

883
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: it felt like Ian was was building a team because

884
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: he had a plane to catch.

885
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 2: If it was like a point per bid league, Ian

886
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: won because every player Ian was in on until he

887
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: had no more money.

888
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: All right, rich reebar Uh fifty one for Ceede Lamb

889
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: and forty nine for Drake Linda. So he spent one

890
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on his top two receivers one nine. If

891
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: you throw in the twenty nine dollars for t Higgins,

892
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: he would be yeah, wide receiver.

893
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Worthy for seventeen, like he I didn't plan on going

894
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: RB heavy, but I felt like the running back values

895
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: were at this point in the draft, the receivers were

896
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: going for a lot more than the running backs in

897
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: that ring.

898
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: Did you have a particular strategy going into this one?

899
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Get my guys? Like I was like, I want fields,

900
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: I want Trevion, I want Warren, I want agent. So

901
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: I ideally I thought I was gonna end up with

902
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: like a fifty dollars receiver instead of Bajon. But when

903
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: I won Bajon, I had to pivot on the fly.

904
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: But I was like, I really wanted Neighbors and I

905
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: was willing to go up to like high forties for him.

906
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: But once I had I didn't want to have one

907
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: hundred plus dollars spent on two players, you know, So

908
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: when I bought Bajon, I was waiting for aj Brown

909
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: because like I got him for thirty four dollars. Look

910
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: at like what the other wide receivers. One went for

911
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: Puko for thirty nine. I think was a good cost,

912
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: but like Lad McConkie went for forty four. All of

913
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: the guys that I have ranked as wide receiver ones

914
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: everyone went.

915
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: For like five or more dollars and Neighbors went for

916
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: forty eight.

917
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Agent for fourteen dollars cheaper, you know, Like,

918
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: So that was my strategy, was to get aj in draft.

919
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: But then it was kind of trying to find value

920
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: and I think later in the rounds like Jennings for nine,

921
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: I Yuke for seven. I know not everyone loves Josh Palmer.

922
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm starting to come around to him, but I was like,

923
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: let me get I don't want all dollar players. So

924
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to get guys that I

925
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: think I could still plug in that are still cheap.

926
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I trying to look at some of the other

927
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: interesting interesting bids.

928
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: Interesting, I mean interesting, is Mike or Seki going for

929
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: fourteen dollars? Like what was going on there?

930
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: That was definitely a like Wandel went for eleven. It

931
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: was a whatever money you had left on your final play.

932
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: Exactly what it feels like. That feels like I got

933
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: fourteen dollars left I just.

934
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: Need to get because that's why I bought Deontay for five.

935
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: I could have gone for a dollar, but it was

936
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: my term and nominated. I was like Deontay five, and

937
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: they were like sold, Yeah.

938
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: No, one's no, one's gonna go six on Deontay Johnson

939
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I just like the quarterback values being

940
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: down kind of surprised me. The wide receiver values, I

941
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: think at some point being up, I think sort of

942
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: speaks to where we are at this moment in fantasy football,

943
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: where those guys are, you know, considered a lot more valuable.

944
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: The thing I wanted was I didn't want a lot

945
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: of like a bench full of dollar players. I actually

946
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: don't have a single dollar player. I have a couple

947
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: of two dollars players, and those will be the guys

948
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: I might cut. But like I thought, it was more

949
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: valuable to have a bench with guys like Jaden Blue

950
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: and Josh Palmer and AU guys who could actually become

951
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: starters for me. I think because it's a fourteen team,

952
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: sixteen roster league, the waivers, you're not going to be

953
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: able to find routine starters.

954
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: On the waiver. No, that's the other part of it.

955
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Fourteen teams sort of changes the equation too, because you're

956
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: not You're not still gonna love your team. Yeah, at

957
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: fourteen teams for anything. Okay, do you have a particular

958
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: auction strategy or you a are you know studs and scrubs?

959
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Are you a balanced like, do you have an approach

960
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: you go to.

961
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: I've only done one draft and it's been the work

962
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: League draft, and I have been terrible at budgeting, Like

963
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: I'm mister blow the bag. Like bo Nicks would have

964
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: definitely went for more money, like one hundred percent. I

965
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: would have dropped like thirty dollars on bow Nicks, and

966
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: I even had read the room that they were cheap.

967
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: It's just that I'm so excited to spend the bag

968
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: and get my guy at one hundred percent. So I

969
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: do think I need to work on my stre and

970
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: be a little bit more better if I can get

971
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: into more leagues that are at this format. But I'm

972
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: not really a guy that's going into every season with

973
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: at least one auction draft.

974
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: So it's funny because you are not so you But

975
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: like I always like to nominate players that I don't

976
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: necessarily have an interest in, but I know other people

977
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: might be in on just to see if I can

978
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: dig in somebody's pockets a little bit. Yeah, you would

979
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: have done that.

980
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: I would have been like, like I had, I would

981
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: be thrown out CMC and Saquon And but it got

982
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: to a point where I realized I had the most money,

983
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, now I'm nominating the guys I

984
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: want because I want to get a chance at them

985
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: while I have money.

986
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Also, you can you can bully people.

987
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's what I do a Brown and Warren.

988
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: And but I'll say this, like my one of my

989
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: home leagues is an auction draft. This one I was

990
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: being like very cautious not to spend too much money

991
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: and stuff. In my home league, it's the exact opposite.

992
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm going in looking again as many big name

993
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: players as I can because I'm gonna find guys off

994
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: the waiver wire and stuff. And like in that league,

995
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: like see would go for like eighty dollars out of

996
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: a two hundred dollars budget. So people are just blowing

997
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: their money fast enough. It very much so depends on

998
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: who you're drafting with in the size of your league

999
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1000
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, always always interesting to

1001
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: do an auction. First off, it's interest to an auction.

1002
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: It's very interesting to do an auction in a room

1003
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: full of people who do this consistently and who have

1004
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: their guys.

1005
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: And hire a guy that does this. The speed talking,

1006
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: that's what.

1007
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: They called the auctioneer, like an actual auctioneer, a guy

1008
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: who in his real day to day life does like

1009
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: cattle auctions and livestock auctions and that sort of thing.

1010
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: And so like you know when you hear that's really

1011
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: what he did. That was how he ran the auction

1012
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: for for this fantasy draft.

1013
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: So do you think he's speaking faster than his brain

1014
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: or is his brain speaking faster.

1015
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: He was going at fifty percent speed in the room

1016
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: and I still couldn't process.

1017
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: So we can go faster.

1018
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: He told me that he does stuff where like it'll

1019
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: the bid, it'll go for like two hundred thousand dollars,

1020
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: something will go and I'm what number do you start with?

1021
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: And he's like, I'll start low because it's more fun

1022
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: for me, Like I'll just get to say numbers constantly. Like,

1023
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: but he loves what he does.

1024
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: I guess, hey, he absolutely loves what he does. And

1025
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: he's great at it. I know that. You know, we

1026
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: had him having been in that room. He was the

1027
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: auctioneer for a year, and I think for one year

1028
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: he was unavailable and this year, like the buzz was, hey,

1029
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Evan is back to be our auctioneerybody's like, yeah, Evan's back,

1030
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: you know. So it was a kind of chance, you know.

1031
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: I think there's video of him floating around.

1032
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually played it today too.

1033
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Oh cool.

1034
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: So if you if you want to check it out

1035
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: on Fantasy Live or on the Fantasy Football Expo Twitter.

1036
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, just check it out. It's a lot

1037
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: of fun, all right. So there you go. That'll do

1038
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: it for this edition. We'll be back with you tomorrow

1039
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: because we're three times a week now, So back with

1040
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: you tomorrow where we will start to look at week

1041
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: two of the preseason, maybe kind of dive into some storylines,

1042
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: things we would like to see and all that kind

1043
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: of stuff as we get ready for another week of

1044
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: preseason football games. But in the meantime, that'll do it

1045
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,

1046
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: save and healthy, do good, and live well, enjoy the day. Everybody.

1047
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: We will talk to you again tomorrow