Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Jean Merriman a one of
Speaker 1: hand ef back Boom boom boom, out go the light.
Speaker 1: This is Lights Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys
Speaker 1: were back again with another Lights out podcast for me,
Speaker 1: Sean Merriman and uh especially today, man's cool. We got
Speaker 1: one of a former Charger Um was drafted to Believe
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven by the Charges eighteen pick overall.
Speaker 1: Corpy Llegiance was a beast um for the Charges and
Speaker 1: one of the things that you know, it was funny
Speaker 1: because I've seen him coming in as I was gone.
Speaker 1: I was playing with the Bills at the time, and
Speaker 1: I saw what the organization was trying to do. They
Speaker 1: were trying to recreate those years that we had that
Speaker 1: we were talented. We had some of the best players
Speaker 1: in the locker room and on the field. And I
Speaker 1: always say over and over again a d tackle, defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I played with Jamal Williams. Uh. He was one of
Speaker 1: the guys that were underrated, never talked about. But then
Speaker 1: you bringing Coy Legion Man and and Corey. I saw
Speaker 1: exactly what the organization was trying to do, bringing another
Speaker 1: guy that was just vicious out there to take up
Speaker 1: so much space and really go out there and give
Speaker 1: those outside linebackers and passed Russias away to go. Um
Speaker 1: had a great career. He's still fifty fifty on what
Speaker 1: He's gonna come back and play, hopefully getting one more shot.
Speaker 1: But Corey Legion, what's up? I do? How you feeling?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great, man, I'm feeling great. Man, feeling great.
Speaker 1: Dog Just just at that point now, man is at
Speaker 1: that point now man, you know, just relaxing and join
Speaker 1: his time off man Bill in the crib and didn't
Speaker 1: go ship man. That's it man, you know yeah, so
Speaker 1: what you say about that time? So what about that time?
Speaker 1: What you uh? Just just just getting to that point
Speaker 1: of where you at with it? Oh yeah, man, you
Speaker 1: know what? Man, Um, I'm like picking figure guy, like
Speaker 1: everyone to keep back to me and my moontime. Like Man,
Speaker 1: I'm symbi. Man. You know, I'm gonna saying I retired,
Speaker 1: you know, the right team, right situation and made me
Speaker 1: get up off the couch, you know. But for right
Speaker 1: now I'm on his couch. I'm gonna work out do
Speaker 1: what I do, but I'm not looking forward to you know,
Speaker 1: rushing back. See I'm gonna come back to that. But
Speaker 1: you said something about building a crib in San Diego,
Speaker 1: and I go to back. I'm talking about I getting
Speaker 1: in like heated arguments with people when I tell them
Speaker 1: to San Diego is the best place to live in
Speaker 1: the country. I was like, you know, at not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people get out there. I lived in Miami,
Speaker 1: I lived in New York. Obviously, live in l a
Speaker 1: and other places of the country. But when I when
Speaker 1: I tell people like San Diego is the best place
Speaker 1: to live, hey, I don't even want to argument. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but hands down by far man, especially for me,
Speaker 1: you know, Mary, poor kids, so port and so on.
Speaker 1: You know, it's perfect. It's the perfect place, man, because
Speaker 1: you can always just shoot right up to l a
Speaker 1: um if need be. And then not only that, man,
Speaker 1: I mean you got you got you got Lego, man,
Speaker 1: you got sea World, you got so much kids activities.
Speaker 1: You know, it's perfect for you. And when you're on
Speaker 1: the white want to get away, you know what they
Speaker 1: want to get away when you want to half away,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, can't cool? Ain't that far?
Speaker 1: You know it's perfect, man, man straight up. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump back to that. So I'm gonna tell you because, um,
Speaker 1: you know, when I got drafted by the charges of No.
Speaker 1: Five and I end up leaving there, but then right after,
Speaker 1: you know, I end up leaving that they drafted you.
Speaker 1: And I remember I remember watching you in college, and
Speaker 1: so I already knew he was in college. But when
Speaker 1: they draft you, I was like, man, it's gonna be big.
Speaker 1: Because I played with Jamal Williams, Um, you know most
Speaker 1: of my career and and I always say still to
Speaker 1: this day, Um, Jamal never got really the credit that
Speaker 1: he deserved, Like he wasn't talked about because that three
Speaker 1: technique him playing that position down in the three four.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no Shane, It wasn't pretty. But you know,
Speaker 1: I say, look, the reason part of the reason why
Speaker 1: I got a lot of those sacks when I played,
Speaker 1: because Jamal was in the middle taking up guys, you know,
Speaker 1: two guys at the time, and nobody was allowed to
Speaker 1: step up in the pocket. So I can keep going around,
Speaker 1: you know, I can get in the wide seven y
Speaker 1: nine and just go because I knew that inside pocket
Speaker 1: was gonna be collapsed. Yeah, exactly, man, I never heard
Speaker 1: stories away and the big homie drew a line. He
Speaker 1: took his foot and drew a line and say, y'all
Speaker 1: ain't passing this, Like I I know the Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, and how and what you're saying
Speaker 1: that you don't get the credit. Man. Jocksons used to
Speaker 1: tell me Luisia, come man, you go out there, drawer
Speaker 1: line and say, y'all ain't moving past his line here.
Speaker 1: And that's how I went. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I know exactly what you're saying. The Big Feller, definitely,
Speaker 1: there's every way more credit than a lot of people
Speaker 1: gave him back then. But hey, you know, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, we know if he was,
Speaker 1: if he was a part of the charges on the edition.
Speaker 1: You know, you know who the dog is and when
Speaker 1: the dog was at the end of the day, and
Speaker 1: that's all facts. That's a true story. I sat there
Speaker 1: and watched him, and Jamal didn't say a whole lot.
Speaker 1: He came out and did this thing and one of
Speaker 1: the strongest guys I played again, so you know, kind
Speaker 1: of kind of going. And when they brought you and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I see what they're doing by
Speaker 1: the times that we were winning, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: kind to recreate the same dogs that was in this
Speaker 1: building when they drafted you, and I'm looking at like, man,
Speaker 1: watch this dude gonna be the next level. So talk
Speaker 1: about it when you came to the organization, man, and
Speaker 1: kind of the expectations and like what happened when you
Speaker 1: got to San Diego the first time around? All right,
Speaker 1: So so the expect changes for me was definitely coming
Speaker 1: in high because at the time they brought me into
Speaker 1: kind of they had it kept Jock to teach me
Speaker 1: the ropes and Jock was my big brother. Uh So
Speaker 1: for me, you know, I had I had that mentality,
Speaker 1: you know, John Louise you were gone to, had Sean
Speaker 1: Phillips and who was the other outside backer. I think
Speaker 1: it was traveling the board that year. But I had
Speaker 1: those guys there, you know, so I had a lot
Speaker 1: of veteran leadership and I was just the young pump.
Speaker 1: All I had to do with soap in all the
Speaker 1: game that they was teaching me. So coming to the Charges,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a humpy time too, though, you know.
Speaker 1: Defensive wise, you know, they had a lot of veterans,
Speaker 1: but where they didn't retain a lot of the guys
Speaker 1: that was on that defense when they wore the number
Speaker 1: one deepen when there wasn't then one office, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, he had guys like Chris Dillman go out,
Speaker 1: You had Marcus McNeil go down, you know, So it
Speaker 1: was kind of a shammo and kind of like them,
Speaker 1: they're a revealed from the upfront in the trenches area
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, you know, because Jamal
Speaker 1: was gone, we had big ton Yoga ray Um. So
Speaker 1: it was like it was kind of that rebuild. So
Speaker 1: the guys who wasn't really charge of guys drafted by
Speaker 1: him and played the most of their career with them.
Speaker 1: It was kind of on their way out, and I
Speaker 1: came in with the new guys and then we didn't
Speaker 1: We had a little tradition, but it wasn't like how
Speaker 1: it should have been. So for me, my expectation for
Speaker 1: me was just to come in and learn from you
Speaker 1: guys so I can continue that charge of mentality and
Speaker 1: go out there and just play hard notes football. I
Speaker 1: remember packs turned on one of the games. He turned
Speaker 1: on the games that it was you showing Phillip Stephen cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was all those guys out there on
Speaker 1: the defense, and he came, he came. He turned the
Speaker 1: game and were watching him playing. Might have played like
Speaker 1: eight plays and then he stopped that. He said, dude,
Speaker 1: would you guys believe this was our fourth preseason game?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what we thought was a regular season game?
Speaker 1: How y'all? Man knockings? Oh my god, damn man, that's
Speaker 1: how the NFL lived. And then at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I didn't understand the concept in the mindset.
Speaker 1: He was like, dude, every game, preseason, regular season, playoffs,
Speaker 1: treated all like a championship game and take every rep series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's true. And I think one of the games
Speaker 1: you're probably referring to was the Green Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: Um it was. It was our fourth preseason game, and
Speaker 1: I think we only got a series of two in
Speaker 1: that game. And you know, we we want to just
Speaker 1: come in and set the tones. We were here hunting,
Speaker 1: but you know y'all had something out there, man, And
Speaker 1: who was the coach? And it was uh yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know I was part of what Marty when Marty
Speaker 1: was dead and when North and North had a different mentality.
Speaker 1: He was more on the offensive side and he wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, more in the offensive game planning. Um so
Speaker 1: you were there eight years and did you ever think
Speaker 1: because when I when I got drafted, and I thought
Speaker 1: I was going that was gonna be it Like I
Speaker 1: wanted to retire. I wanted to play maybe teen years total,
Speaker 1: and like that was gonna be and I was gonna
Speaker 1: be done in San Diego, live in San Diego, and
Speaker 1: that was gonna be life. Like what was it? Because
Speaker 1: I knew when I was on my way out, man,
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of like it was dark,
Speaker 1: it was quiet, and you know, coaches were crying. I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was like a sad place, man, Like,
Speaker 1: how was it on the way out? Man? Of of
Speaker 1: you leaving there, with me leaving, with me leaving there? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what they were on the high holds because
Speaker 1: you know, we weren't talking before we made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So it was like everyone was excited because they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it again. It's gonna we're gonna run
Speaker 1: it back again. But a little bit they know, you know,
Speaker 1: they it was they let me go. You know, one
Speaker 1: of the guys. One of the guys that was like
Speaker 1: your based foundation, a guy that everyone in the a
Speaker 1: f C West kind of understood and feared and also
Speaker 1: respect in a sense in a way didn let me
Speaker 1: go thinking that they were gonna be able to replace
Speaker 1: it with some guys and they no no respect to
Speaker 1: Judy Bosa. Those guys are great football players. They needed
Speaker 1: that pushing the need that president big me Main. You know,
Speaker 1: he could take up to guys. He's a Jamal Wing type,
Speaker 1: but you need that guy that free tech, that that
Speaker 1: that that strike fears in them, guards in that center
Speaker 1: because you don't know where he don't go. And they
Speaker 1: missed that when they let me go, you know, And
Speaker 1: granted it wasn't a bitter sweet thing, I don't think
Speaker 1: I think they were so how and they hired horsed
Speaker 1: and they felt very confident in the guys that they
Speaker 1: had that I don't think they thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: miss me. And that's kind of where where when that
Speaker 1: now coach Land he was very sad. It was some
Speaker 1: coaches that was sad that I was gone, But but
Speaker 1: some coaches was like, I think we could replace them,
Speaker 1: but you you can't replace the veteran like myself. Man,
Speaker 1: you know that that's like yourself a card to come by,
Speaker 1: and you know what, certain guys come in and and
Speaker 1: everybody start feeding off your attitude, start feeding off what
Speaker 1: you bring to the table. So I know how they go.
Speaker 1: What what do you think about Coach Land? I mean
Speaker 1: I always always thought that he was he was good coach.
Speaker 1: But when he got left, when he got to let
Speaker 1: go by the team, I can understand and see why,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't, I didn't think like, oh man, they
Speaker 1: got to get this dude out of here. He was bad. Um.
Speaker 1: I only had a couple a couple of times to
Speaker 1: meet him, and and he was cool to me, It
Speaker 1: was all right. But I just felt at some point
Speaker 1: in time, man, like you have to when you got
Speaker 1: a nucleus like that, you see the make or break,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the team to the show or you're
Speaker 1: gonna be out of there. What you what you think
Speaker 1: of him? Man? Like on the way out? You know,
Speaker 1: man to be honest with Coach Land. I think coach
Speaker 1: he was a great coach man, no doubt that just
Speaker 1: the guys didn't he started getting the young guys he
Speaker 1: let he let go of a lot of the older
Speaker 1: leadership that was gonna keep that thing together. And that's
Speaker 1: where I can say that. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't even think it was so much of him. I
Speaker 1: think the ownership was letting because I don't think he
Speaker 1: really had to play in a lot of the guys
Speaker 1: leaving and coming in. I think the owners had something
Speaker 1: more say so in that than he did. So that
Speaker 1: kind of messed the team up because like I said, man,
Speaker 1: he the young guys. Yeah, they could run, they could fly,
Speaker 1: they could do everything. Then you know, you don't gotta
Speaker 1: pay him much, but if you want to win football games,
Speaker 1: you gotta have somebody to teach those guys. Two groups,
Speaker 1: and they ain't got nobody there. They ain't got no
Speaker 1: real true leadership there. I don't spoke the coaches on
Speaker 1: the staff, but the leadership was dead. You can't expect
Speaker 1: for Joey Bolster to say something Joe ain't that's the
Speaker 1: same things. Go out there. Yeah, he's gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and get you po five sacks and kill it.
Speaker 1: You know, even he mal like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: go play football. I ain't got time to get a speeches.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I ain't got time to
Speaker 1: come from the heart with it. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I want to get stacks and win football games.
Speaker 1: But you need a guy like myself. You need to
Speaker 1: meet bans. You need this Deamon sports. You need to
Speaker 1: you know, you need that veteran presence on that, on
Speaker 1: that on that defense, and on that offensive side too.
Speaker 1: If Philip getting sacked or some of the Philip messing up,
Speaker 1: man snap on him. Tell him, man, you threw the
Speaker 1: ass out, you know. And if you don't have that,
Speaker 1: if you don't got an accountability or your team, your
Speaker 1: team ain't gonna never be ship. That's just That's just
Speaker 1: how it is. And I say the same damn thing.
Speaker 1: And then to even go off of that, and so
Speaker 1: you said Philip, and so you know Philip left and
Speaker 1: Phillip with my man, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I love, I love from Philip. Man. You can't tell me.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me nothing about Philip even when he was,
Speaker 1: you know, throwing pigs and wasn't playing well. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, always gonna fight, like you gotta
Speaker 1: do this, always gonna fight. And I'm talking about if
Speaker 1: it came down to it. He'll physically scraped with like
Speaker 1: he was. Philip was Phills getting the mix. Phill don't
Speaker 1: getting mix, no doubt, and he's gonna talk his trash man.
Speaker 1: He just they didn't have enough guys to to get
Speaker 1: behind that and say something to the other guys who
Speaker 1: wasn't picking up. They slack as far as whether it
Speaker 1: was the vocers, the line this week one, this tight
Speaker 1: ends that week on this receiver's dropping, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know it just that kind of
Speaker 1: biddy was gone. And I don't I can't put all
Speaker 1: of that on Land because they did. They didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Owners don't see that type of stuff in the locker
Speaker 1: room or around the guys. They just looking at all
Speaker 1: games and you gotta getting all the productive who getting
Speaker 1: the stats, whatnot. But you got to hold in on that,
Speaker 1: on those little details, because that's what's gonna be. That's
Speaker 1: what's gonna for the next group of guys. That's why,
Speaker 1: that's why certain organizations keep winning, because they got guys
Speaker 1: in there and know how to do it, and they
Speaker 1: retained the guys that know how to do it, so
Speaker 1: they teached the young guys. So when those guys leave
Speaker 1: that got steps into that road and it's like you
Speaker 1: ain't missing a fun right and then so so and
Speaker 1: then right right towards was into that. Which which year
Speaker 1: did you get hurt? I think you had a need
Speaker 1: of qual in your qualit two Yeah, five games. That
Speaker 1: was my best. That's my best year ever as a prosy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Charger didn't want to take a chance for me
Speaker 1: no more. They thought I was watching something done. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if they would have let me rehab pot me in
Speaker 1: for three million dollars, I would have stayed there. It
Speaker 1: would have been no problem. I would have stayed the
Speaker 1: two millions because I loved I love the place. A
Speaker 1: little organization, but myself. You know how the game is
Speaker 1: taking my back, shoot in the head. You ain't got nothing,
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing for you know, It's part of
Speaker 1: the game. And I was on that. I was on
Speaker 1: that same train too, you know, like, hey, gout told
Speaker 1: my knee came up from knaeding up taying my achilles
Speaker 1: when I came back, and after that, that was it.
Speaker 1: Then I got I went out to the Buffalo. No,
Speaker 1: and I went to Buffalo, and man, when I got
Speaker 1: the bus, I'm just about to ask you, man, listen,
Speaker 1: that's far hands. I don't know every team, every franchise.
Speaker 1: If you didn't with sports, they need to go to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: If got how these people like. The way they treat
Speaker 1: the players. One, you take a servant every day you
Speaker 1: step into the building. And not only that, man like
Speaker 1: if you're tired, if you have anything wrong with you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna arrest you. It's no pressure to play there.
Speaker 1: They don't force you to be out there. You know,
Speaker 1: they understand, They talk to you, They they they those coaches,
Speaker 1: they come from the heart CoA Sean McDermott and the
Speaker 1: gym Brandon being. I don't know if there's another in
Speaker 1: this in this organization that's a genuine that's caring and
Speaker 1: and and make the game, make sure guys feel welcome
Speaker 1: and feel don't feel pressure enough to play a damn
Speaker 1: football game. And then the day we're human to y'all human,
Speaker 1: those guys are there, the training staff a one man,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Danny, all of those guys and then
Speaker 1: they're the best of the game. They take their time
Speaker 1: with you. It ain't no hitting. The generis with them
Speaker 1: when they're going to coach me, and they tell them
Speaker 1: the coach is exactly what it is and how you're progressing.
Speaker 1: They said, Oh, I think we could play shoot him
Speaker 1: up this week. There ain't nothing that going on up there.
Speaker 1: If you could play, you're gonna play. If you can't play,
Speaker 1: it's probably we got a guy that could step in
Speaker 1: point look at you know. It's it's it's crazy you
Speaker 1: said that because I and I'll never take a shot
Speaker 1: at another organization or charge whatever. Man, I love my squad,
Speaker 1: I love it, you know, I got I'm close with
Speaker 1: the Spanos family. I'm close with a lot of organizations
Speaker 1: in there. But I said, it's different when you get
Speaker 1: out to the Buffalo. It's a it's a different field. Um.
Speaker 1: And if you don't experience that to see how they
Speaker 1: operate out there, you always think that things are one
Speaker 1: certain way, you know, because you've been with the organization
Speaker 1: so long, and sometimes you just need to go and
Speaker 1: experience it. Like at first, I wasn't trying to go
Speaker 1: out there. I was scratching and screaming. Like I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to playing the snow dog. That was
Speaker 1: my exact words. I said, I'm not trying to playing
Speaker 1: the snow I'm not trying to. I knew the only
Speaker 1: person I knew out there was dread and Florence, and
Speaker 1: I really, you know, I knew a couple of Castle
Speaker 1: team like Stevie Johnson, fred I knew some of the guys,
Speaker 1: but I really didn't know them like that. And I
Speaker 1: got there and I'm like, damn, man, this is like family.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because they treat you. They
Speaker 1: treat you like family out there. So you played there?
Speaker 1: Was it? One? Was it one or two years? You
Speaker 1: played there? I am I'm not even gonna count my
Speaker 1: sting with the readers, because man, that that the way
Speaker 1: it was. The Buffalo man was so beautiful, man, I was.
Speaker 1: I was open for eight weeks. I got the Buffalo males.
Speaker 1: I was just on a whole different program. And I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, this is how the NFL should be, man.
Speaker 1: And nothing like you said, nothing against the Charles, nothing
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. But wait, they handle that place stuff there.
Speaker 1: I mean, people gonna get a plust on every level. Man,
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't no funny everybody. Men, two cooks.
Speaker 1: The cooks have to know your name. Your cooks gotta
Speaker 1: know your wife. And people in the back. You're getting
Speaker 1: to know them. You come and sate with them, they're
Speaker 1: preparing your food. It's it's everybody in the building in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: It ain't just one one one thing. Is everybody there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right. I still talked to uh, the
Speaker 1: equipment guys in Buffalo. Like I said, I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: my time out there. You went there and then you
Speaker 1: had you had a quick stop with the with the Texas, right,
Speaker 1: you went down to the Texas for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and so let let me yeah, so let me let
Speaker 1: me ask you about them. And this this is like
Speaker 1: straight up because I see everything that DeShawn talking about
Speaker 1: right now, what he dealing Shaun Watching, what he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: But I also seeing like Andre Johnson and Andre Johnson
Speaker 1: my man, and so he came out and defended and
Speaker 1: said something on Deshaun Watching's behalf and how they're wasted
Speaker 1: some guys talent down there, and that you know, the
Speaker 1: kind of wasted guy's careers. How was it that you
Speaker 1: played for the Charges, you know, and I played there,
Speaker 1: you played for the Bills, played there, And how was it, man,
Speaker 1: when you went down there with the Texans? Because I
Speaker 1: always wanted to know that from somebody who actually played
Speaker 1: there recently, who can either invalidate or validate all the
Speaker 1: stuff that Deshaun Watson talking about. Now, look, man, I him,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a bad I haven't had it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't personally have a bad experience with the guy
Speaker 1: down there or the or the organization, be personal the
Speaker 1: thing that. And granted they cut me two weeks before
Speaker 1: the season was over. Proud to them sounding me because
Speaker 1: I signed a practice squad deal and I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll work my way up, no problem. You know, they
Speaker 1: put me through the ring for six weeks, didn't play me,
Speaker 1: didn't play me. They finally played me, and then they
Speaker 1: do all this COVID stuff right, so bomb, so don
Speaker 1: story show I get I get on the contract. Before
Speaker 1: I signed a contract, I'm telling them listening, give me
Speaker 1: veteran minimum or let me go. And I'm begging him
Speaker 1: to cut me. And these guys are begging me to stay.
Speaker 1: They're like, please come in and talk to us. We
Speaker 1: don't know what we what we did. While we can't
Speaker 1: come to an agreement that I'm like, listen, I just
Speaker 1: want to go. Let me go. Cut me. This is
Speaker 1: in November. I'm begging this guy to cut me. In November.
Speaker 1: I got the text, mens, I got everything between my
Speaker 1: cut me. Let me go semeon, I can go somewhere
Speaker 1: else and go play somewhel I ain't gonna be dealing
Speaker 1: with this with you. So a long story short, he
Speaker 1: ended up convincing me to stay. I signed a contract.
Speaker 1: I'm larry cool, I'll stay here. Two weeks later, well,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later, you end up cutting me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got plenty of money in the bank.
Speaker 1: I'm frying him. I'm financially secure. I don't have much
Speaker 1: to worry about. You know, my wife's cool. We cool.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you begged me
Speaker 1: to stay here. I could have been some whe else
Speaker 1: playing get him more playing time. So to me, the guy,
Speaker 1: don't it seems like the personal the decisions that he's
Speaker 1: allowed to make isn't really made and cut out for him.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a being real. Everybody around that waiting for
Speaker 1: number four to make a plaint and for a special one.
Speaker 1: I can't take that from your your dog. But some
Speaker 1: of y'all gotta mand up, grab you nuts and be
Speaker 1: some dogs too, and go make some football players and
Speaker 1: help contribute to the team winning. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the ship that they allow happening, there ain't no way.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me how many times you have sat
Speaker 1: down on the cooler and practice with the charges or
Speaker 1: anywhere in the league. Man, that's it, that's it, that'sh it,
Speaker 1: totally accepted. There. You can sit down in practice your
Speaker 1: man mother to laid out, putting their hemmers on their head,
Speaker 1: laid on the grap It's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this ain't the way you want to be.
Speaker 1: So do you think that's always the top of the
Speaker 1: organization level or do you think that's coaching or you
Speaker 1: think that's leadership? Like what what do you? Because they
Speaker 1: you gotta think they got you know, he said, well
Speaker 1: they got a bunch of cats that are leaders out there.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm looking at it like, how how
Speaker 1: do you how do one of your leaders even allow
Speaker 1: that to happen? You know what? J J J J
Speaker 1: never speak on it, But JA ain't never sit down either.
Speaker 1: Jay always working, They always standing on his feet doing
Speaker 1: his thing. I think that that comes from just that
Speaker 1: culture there. You know what I'm saying it, I ain't
Speaker 1: never seen the seanna take a seat, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But a lot of the guys that ain't
Speaker 1: got or done anything, they take him up like a
Speaker 1: sea some practice, you know. And so for me, the leadership,
Speaker 1: I can't say it's the leadership. I just think that
Speaker 1: Defoe ain't gonna say much. He's a quiet type of
Speaker 1: letters actually speak. Why he ain't gonna say much. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a freaking dog, he's a Hall of Famer, and
Speaker 1: plus he he's a big white boy. How are you
Speaker 1: gonna look saying something to to to you know, two
Speaker 1: younger guys like, man, don't do this thing. And when
Speaker 1: he did said it what he has said to several guys,
Speaker 1: some of them get defensive, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he's like, man, I'm not for I ain't got
Speaker 1: time for that. You know. I I've been in this
Speaker 1: game long enough. I pray you make it as long
Speaker 1: as me, or you make the type of how the
Speaker 1: type of career I had, you know, So what those
Speaker 1: hands up with it? Because he ain't the time I
Speaker 1: ain't got ain't it? They'll argue with you. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: ja Jake, you know what I'm saying, And I respect
Speaker 1: that about him. You know, but they didn't got they
Speaker 1: just they just they got the leaders. It's the culture, bro,
Speaker 1: it's the coaches. So so you're saying, you're saying it's
Speaker 1: even up higher than that, ain't it. Ain't the coaches,
Speaker 1: ain't the players. It starts from the organization up topics.
Speaker 1: Why that's why the cultures like that down there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: ask me, Yeah, yeah, I'm getting I gave you a
Speaker 1: long story of the Yeah, it has to come from
Speaker 1: up top. Ain't even no other way. So if you
Speaker 1: if you after they're sitting right now, if the right
Speaker 1: team called, you're going back and play. Yeah, I'll go
Speaker 1: back and play. Yeah yeah, yeah. Gotta be for me.
Speaker 1: It gotta be a contender that's calling me to come
Speaker 1: in and play, man, somebody. I know they they can
Speaker 1: win their division one. That's how you get in the
Speaker 1: playoff winning division and then they got a shot. That's it.
Speaker 1: Ain't I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. My dude.
Speaker 1: Only only advice I say to you, man's play as
Speaker 1: long as you can, or to you absolutely to you
Speaker 1: to that day you walk in practice and you're like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: that's it. I can't. I don't want to walk out
Speaker 1: here no more. I don't want to put on this
Speaker 1: hell man, I ain't trying to tie these I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze this jersey over to show the pass
Speaker 1: no more. That's that's the only thing I try to
Speaker 1: tell casts, man, is make sure it's all the way gone,
Speaker 1: because that first year, when you're done, you kind of
Speaker 1: sit back, li Man, I feel good, I can, I
Speaker 1: can probably, I can probably help a team out right now.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's the only thing. Man. But if
Speaker 1: if you're done, or you or you want to hang
Speaker 1: it up, man do that. But if that thing is
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty percent left of your system, man, go ahead,
Speaker 1: get your another check man, real quick, you know what,
Speaker 1: then ship because that's what that's what They just gotta
Speaker 1: be the right opportunity. But I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play again. I feel like I can play another three years.
Speaker 1: It's up to the league, you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, And ain't up to me now at
Speaker 1: this point. They know what I can do, so it's
Speaker 1: up to them. It's up to a team to come
Speaker 1: and take a chance me if they called me, I'm gone,
Speaker 1: they called me, I'm gone. My due. Man. Well, I hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully I see you back out there, and uh, well
Speaker 1: we'll get up in San Diego. Man, I'm never probably
Speaker 1: at least once a month. Still, that's still home for me,
Speaker 1: all right, the show man. Let me know what you're
Speaker 1: doing that land Man. I know you got them thirty
Speaker 1: acres out here. You're trying to develop, man, so let
Speaker 1: me know man development. Okay, now for sure, I will.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you Corey is as straight up as
Speaker 1: it getting man, and I wish I had a chance
Speaker 1: to play with him. Um, you know you can hear
Speaker 1: the intensely and in his voice. Hopefully he he's still
Speaker 1: comes back and given another shot or two, he gets
Speaker 1: gets signed up with the right tan, he could still go.
Speaker 1: Looks good training in San Diego, and uh, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just real awesome to to get a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to my first real conversation I've had with him.
Speaker 1: Obviously seen him around the organization and talks to him
Speaker 1: in passing for man, he has a lot of passion
Speaker 1: and hopefully it still goes out and gives another shot
Speaker 1: at two and the right team calls him. So appreciate
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