1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: day M paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of I 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out, 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi, I'm 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been on 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: On each episode will discuss the reasons we now know 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I just 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: read something interesting that our brains are wired towards the negative, 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: not the positive, and we're naturally drawn to it. Avoiding 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: pain is a stronger motivator than seeking pleasure. And someone 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: said the brain is like velcro for negative experiences, but 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: teflon for positive ones. So it means the negative experiences 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: we have a stick in our brain, but the positive 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: ones we deflect for some reason, and it's hard to 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: bring them back into our awareness. And I was thinking 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: about this that how often do you and I remember 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: our successes? Well? We don't. Usually on a daily basis, 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: we're thinking about what's left undone, We're thinking about our failures. 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: How often do we think of our strengths? How often 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: do we think about the good that we've done for others, 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the accomplishments that we've had. If we were to ask 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: but what our strengths are, they'd give us a whole 30 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: slew of things. But how often do we remember those? 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Instead we look at our weaknesses and almost on a 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: daily basis, often when we look in the mirror, how 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: often do we see people for the good in them? Really? 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we have people in our life that we 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: don't get along well with, but maybe at one time 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: we did. Do we have conversations with them as if 37 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: they are the good person that has done so much 38 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: good and that we've had so much fun with? Or 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: do we tend to look at the negative? So? I 40 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: find this very interesting about the brain being like velcro 41 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: for negative experiences but teflon for positive ones. And I 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: want to relate this to life after death, especially being 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: in my shoes. I've now been an afterlife explorer for 44 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: almost twenty five years. I would say honestly, I have 45 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: witnessed miracles, things that in my mind there's no way 46 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: they could possibly happen, yet they're happening. Even this past week, 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I've experienced some things that I'll share with you. However, 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: do I remember them on a daily basis. No, So, 49 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: as much information as we gather for the evidence of 50 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the afterlife, it is normal. It is natural to be 51 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: skeptical to not remember, and I personally think that might 52 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: be the design of being human, if in fact, we 53 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: are here to learn to experience emotions things that can't 54 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: be experienced on the other side because we don't have 55 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: the same physicality as we do on earth, that we 56 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: live our lives here not remembering who we really are. 57 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: And it's been said that if we did really remember 58 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: on a daily basis where we came from and where 59 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: we're going back to that quite honestly, it's so wonderful. 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: We may not choose to be here, but if I 61 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: were to ask you what your favorite food is and 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: say it's pizza or chocolate, or cheesecake, and that's the 63 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: only thing you can eat for the rest of your life. 64 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Those foods would quickly go from being your favorite to 65 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: being boring, and you'd get sick of them. So the 66 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: other side may be lovely, fantastic, we can think it, 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: and it just happens. However, here on earth we have 68 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: the depth of so much richness, of so many things 69 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: to experience. We have been given a gift of a 70 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: body that has these five senses. And although we do 71 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: have a physical body of some sort, when we move 72 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: to the other side and we can certainly recognize people 73 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: and experience different things, there is real depth to what 74 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: we can experience here that is different from there. I 75 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: know from my life that it's taken me experiencing some dark, 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: heavy days and some real tragedies to get me on 77 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: the search for my own spirituality. And even if you're 78 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: to look at your life, some pivotal things happened along 79 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: your journey that have made you who you are today. 80 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Some of the toughest things have brought us to the 81 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: greatest places. And it said that how is a pearl 82 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: made inside the oyster well? Sand is an irritant, And 83 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: eventually that beautiful pearl is polished into the magnificent gem. 84 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: That it is the same thing is true with all 85 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the people and all the experiences that we learn in life, 86 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: that our self, our soul, our essence is really polished 87 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: into something great while we're here on earth. So this 88 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: past week I did some great things. Of course, on 89 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: Sundays we have our Sunday gathering. The end of each 90 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: one we do a medium demonstration on our online congregation, 91 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: and it's free, of course, but I witness two mediums 92 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: bring forth such evidence of people in the afterlife, and 93 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: it is so specific that there's absolutely no way anyone 94 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: could guess this. And of course we don't have a 95 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: list of who's going to be in our gathering week 96 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: after week, and it's really nice to witness. And then 97 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: on Friday's we have a trance mediumship demonstration with Scott Milligan. 98 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: He closes his eyes, listens to three pieces of music 99 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: just to relax and to blend with that unseen world, 100 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and then a voice will come from him of someone 101 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: who no longer lives, sharing inspiration about life, death, the afterlife. 102 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: You can ask this person any topic on anything, any question, 103 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and the most profound answers come out without any hesitation, 104 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: without stopping to think. And I know the gentleman who's 105 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: sitting in the chair, and there's no way he could 106 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: be making all this up. Wednesdays, there's a psychic class 107 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that we do online and we get to practice with 108 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: a partner on Zoom, and we actually know things about 109 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: that other person that there's no way we could know. 110 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: And then on Thursdays is Mediumship class, where we use 111 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: that same psychic property that we each have, yet we 112 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: directed to the spirit world. We have the intention of 113 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: bringing through a person for this from the spirit world, 114 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: and we are working with a partner online again in 115 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: these breakout rooms on Zoom. And this is what happened 116 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: this past Thursday. There was a gal that was our 117 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: very time in the mediumship class. She had taken the 118 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: psychic class and now felt she was ready to move 119 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: onto the mediumship class. And she was my partner in 120 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: the breakout room. And of course she was really nervous 121 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: to to try to bring through someone on my behalf. 122 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: And I reminded her this is a classroom. It's okay 123 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: to be wrong. The most important thing is to give 124 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it a try. And so she asked if I would 125 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: go first. And I did. And I'm always nervous doing 126 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: this because the people from the afterlife use our imagination 127 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: to tell a story. If I haven't experienced it or 128 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about it, and it's not in the 129 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: reference bank of my own mind, in my own imagination, 130 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: they won't use the imagery with me, if that makes sense. 131 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: So my brain is like a data bank, and they 132 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: used my past to tell a story. So as I 133 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: was sitting there with my eyes closed, I got a 134 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: very strong picture of the love and the connection that 135 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I have with my mom. The two of us are 136 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: more like best friends than mother and daughter, although I 137 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: love her completely as a mom. I had to go 138 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: with my instinct and I said to her, your mom 139 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: is in the spirit world and she says yes. And 140 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: I said, you had a very very close connection as 141 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: if two best friends, not mother and daughter, and she 142 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: said yes. At that point, I actually felt like I 143 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: was the mother because I developed this really big sense 144 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: of love for this woman. Now I've never met this 145 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: lady before. I'm looking at her face to face on 146 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: video on zoom, but I'm feeling like I have a 147 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: mother's love for her. I imagined two links of a chain, 148 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: really big links, that they are stuck together and they're 149 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and I got this huge sense that 150 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: she'd be by her side always. In my mind's eye. 151 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I then saw a picture of my parents wedding album. 152 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: My mind was drawn to my mom's sister, so I 153 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: shared that she recently looked at wedding photos of her 154 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: parents and she says, yes, I did. And I said, 155 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: there's something special about your aunt. And then I was 156 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: flooded with this feeling that the mom, this lady I 157 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: was talking to, and the aunt all had a very 158 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: close relationship and she says, yes, we did. So from there, 159 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: my mind is picturing my own trips to Florida, my 160 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: trips to the Caribbean, my trip on a cruise. And 161 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I said to her, you will have traveled with these 162 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: ladies to Florida, to the Caribbean and on a cruise 163 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: and she said yes. And then what followed was just 164 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: some very loving messages from the mother to the daughter. 165 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: So then it was her turn to go. She said, 166 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm feeling grandfather. Well, yes, I have a grandfather who's 167 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: past and she says, I'm seeing him walking with a cane. Yes, 168 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm seeing him with a big brown dog. Yes, his 169 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: hands are very rough. Yes. And at that moment I 170 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: started to get very choked up because I haven't thought 171 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: of my grandfather in a long time. He passed when 172 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old, and only once, many many 173 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: years ago has he come through in a reading. And 174 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: so my eyes started welling up with tears because I 175 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: was just remembering the great love I had for my grandfather. 176 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: In fact, we even went out deep sea fishing, and 177 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: then I thought, Grampy, if that is you have her 178 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: talk about fishing. And then this woman said, all of 179 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's telling me fishing. I was so emotional 180 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: after she told me that, but then I went right 181 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: back to living my life forgetting. So if we could 182 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: each do this, start the morning thinking of our successes, 183 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: think about the difference people have made in our lives 184 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: and how much we love them, and think about our 185 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: strengths not our weaknesses, we would certainly wake up on 186 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: the right side of the bed and probably have a 187 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: much better day and better relationships with others than if 188 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: we didn't. 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You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife with 213 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Sandra Shamplaining on the new I Heart Media and Coast 214 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: to Coast, an paranormal podcast network. Don't forget. You can 215 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: listen to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart 216 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. 217 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, 218 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: author of the book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery 219 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: of life after death, and I want to move on 220 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: this segment meeting Michelle Sebo and Dr Dennis Grega, who 221 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: are the co founders of Afterlife Data dot com, Voices 222 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: across the Veil dot com and Afterlife Library dot com. 223 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Hello YouTube, Thank you. Which one of you would like 224 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: to go first? Talking about maybe your background and how 225 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you got into this and how you got connected. Well, 226 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Dennis, Should I start? How's that? Ladies first? Okay? Well, 227 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: you know I've been really interested in all types of 228 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: different things. You know, I was born, I was brought 229 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: up in a Christian church and congregational church. It was 230 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of a calm kind of Christian upbringing, you know, 231 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: nothing to extreme um, but I was always kind of, 232 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, wanting to learn more. So I got into 233 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,359 Speaker 1: things like yoga and you know, different types of exercises 234 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: and meditations and you know, even different types of belief 235 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: systems and things like that, and this whole afterlife thing 236 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of came up about. You know, it's about eleven 237 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: years ago. We actually just celebrated ten years of Afterlife Data. 238 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: It was ten years ago January that we launched it, 239 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: so it's been pretty amazing since then. But you know, 240 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: just all the different information that's out there, and there's 241 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of it, but it's not available unless you 242 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: really go looking for it. You know, it's kind of 243 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: not the mainstream thing, right, But when you start looking 244 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: for it and you start reading about information, you start researching, 245 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: and especially you know what we did with Afterlife Data 246 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: to take those two d and sixty five topics and 247 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: cross research with a a bunch of different authors, and 248 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: it just became so obvious that you know, this is 249 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: not it. You know, there's so much more. And when 250 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: you start to realize that you really do live your 251 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: life differently, that's so important. Let's just let's before we 252 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: delve too much into you guys personally, let's talk a 253 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: little bit more about afterlife data dotch or because you 254 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: are right, there is a ton of information available, but 255 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: where do people start? And it's a really great home 256 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: base for all things afterlife. Yeah, I think it's really 257 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: important that people realize that, just like anything else, there's 258 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: good information out there and there's not so good information 259 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: out there. So the important thing is to learn as 260 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: much as you possibly can, because when you start to 261 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: do that, you start to just intuitively realize you know, 262 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: what the good stuff is and what the not so 263 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: good stuff is. So that's really really important to just 264 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: kind of dip your toe into this and just say, 265 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, oh, you know, I'll believe that if somebody 266 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: gives me ten reasons why it's not really going to work. 267 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: You know, you really do have to experience things. You 268 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: have to really delve into it and think about it 269 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: for a while and understand it. You know, a lot 270 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: of people when we went to the are I Symposium 271 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: the year before last um I had some people come 272 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: up to me and say, I just want to know 273 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: what you know it's like, but it's taking me almost 274 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: ten years to get here. So you know, I can't 275 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: just impart all this information to you in you know, 276 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: a quick little dissertation and then you've got it right. 277 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: So you really do have to take the journey to 278 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: experience the information and to understand it and to internalize 279 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: it for yourself, because everybody is going to have a 280 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: different journey and everybody is going to believe things from 281 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a different angle. That's one 282 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: of the things that it's important in terms of where 283 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: you're coming from, because the information that we have covers 284 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: a lot of different topics, and you've been taught many 285 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: different things in terms of what to believe, uh, you know, 286 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: what happens after death, what happens uh during the time 287 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: of transition. You know, even we've been inculcated with various 288 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: scientific beliefs where most of the beliefs are atheistic or agnostic, 289 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: where there's no belief in an after life or it's 290 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: not worth you know, taking a look at because there's 291 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: no evidence for it from an experimental paradigm or from 292 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: organized religion, where if you go into the scriptures in 293 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: the in the Holy books, uh, there's very little description 294 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: of what the after life's actually like. And so the 295 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: basis there is to believe on faith. So people are 296 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: coming from different back rounds, different belief systems, and they 297 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: come to a site like ours that says, you know, 298 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: we've heard communications from people that have already died supposedly, 299 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: and they're telling us, you know, what the afterlife is 300 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: actually like. And so you take this in and some 301 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: of it is um it will challenge you. It's going 302 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: to challenge your current beliefs, and so, as Michelle says, 303 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: it takes some time. It takes some time to break 304 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: down the old beliefs and to be open to possibly 305 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: new ones. And but once you start to get the 306 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: feel for the amount of evidence that there is, and 307 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: there is, it's it's overwhelming. At this point, there's no doubt. 308 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: You know. At some point there will be a change 309 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and you'll start to say, you know, this stuff is real, 310 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and then it changes your life. It just changes the 311 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: way you operate in reality. Now you know, all the 312 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: old belief you start to melt away and all of 313 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: a suddenly get replaced with ones with hope, with not 314 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: only hope, but knowledge, And now that you know, it's 315 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: a whole different thing and That's one of the reasons 316 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: why we wanted to bring these sites online, because it 317 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: brings together a wealth of information so that you can 318 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: look at different parts of things that you know you're 319 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of concerned about and get information and then way 320 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: that with what you've been taught and then make an 321 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: evaluation and decision. That's great, and it is about the 322 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: journey that I've found because I know this information was 323 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: out there, and just reading books for me was great, 324 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough. I actually had to balance all 325 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: of these things against my value system, my beliefs. Man, 326 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: I've taken courses and just about everything, and you could 327 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: have never convinced me in the reality of evidential mediumship 328 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: unless not only did I have a great medium reading, 329 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: but I actually took a course in mediumship reading and 330 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: every now and again I can be very accurate trying 331 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: to do a reading on someone trance mediumship. I would 332 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: have never bought into that people close their eyes and 333 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: someone could speak through them, the same thing with physical 334 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: mediumship electronic voice phenomena. Until I recorded my own voices 335 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: and very clear and accurate of people coming through, I 336 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: would never believed it. However, my journey has been from 337 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: fear of death to just this unbelievable joy and power. 338 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: It's not one stop shopping. You get an email and 339 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: or you meet somebody at the conference and you get 340 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: all the details. I mean, it's your personal journey and 341 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: they're all unique. So follow that that you're passionate about, right, Yeah, 342 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean the change is actually going to be something that, yeah, 343 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: you're going to do for yourself. All that we we 344 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: do in that you do is to present the information 345 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: and then whoever's listening to it, or whoever's reading it, 346 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: whoever trying to do it, we need to take it 347 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: in and see what happens. Yeah, I think we are 348 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: on the cusp of something really great as far as 349 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: in humanity. And I tell this story a lot, but 350 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: back in the early you know, people laughed at two 351 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: brothers called Orville and Will. We're right, you know, there's 352 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: no way people who get in the air and new things. 353 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: It takes. You know, the first thing that happens is 354 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: people deny it. They laugh at it, and then they 355 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of get angry and really make fun of people. 356 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: And then the next stage and all of it is 357 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: it becomes normal like it's always been. And so you know, 358 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: we're not living a hundred plus years ago when people 359 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: laughed at these guys, But now we're living in a 360 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: time where we couldn't imagine life without air travel. And 361 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: so I believe really big things are going to happen 362 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: within our lifetime in the not too distant future. But 363 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: can you guys even imagine a hundred years from now 364 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: when afterlife communication is normal and they're looking back thinking, 365 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: I can't believe the whole world didn't believe it's so true. 366 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: It is. So let's just if one of you guys 367 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: just talk through when people go to afterlife data dot com, 368 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: what can they find and how can they best utilize 369 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: that site. Sure, so if you go to afterlife Data, 370 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: the first thing you'll realize is there's a lot of text. 371 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you've got to read in this world of 372 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of instant gratification, and you know a lot of 373 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: information coming at us, and you know, lots of videos. 374 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: Now it's hard for us to just kind of sit 375 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: back and read. So the first thing I would say 376 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: to people is, you know, there's two hundred life after 377 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: death topic questions here. That's a lot of questions. It's 378 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: not a one time sit down, you know, just kind 379 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of read through it, real it. Go in there on 380 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: the home page, you can see all the basic sections. 381 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Open those up and take a look and see what 382 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: interests you. Let's say you know you're interested in, say, 383 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, just the general topic of the afterlife. And 384 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: if you go in there, we have things like arrival 385 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: in the spirit home, deciding not to move ahead, human form, 386 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: that there's no judgment in heaven, individuality, soulmates, children in heaven. 387 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's all this information on there, right, So 388 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: take a look at those topic questions and think to yourself, 389 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: well what interests me and start from there. You know, 390 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: there's no one place that you have to start with 391 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: afterlife data. Just start reading about it, you know, and 392 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: if you've only got five minutes, then pick one, go 393 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: in read it, and then go about your day. And 394 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: then maybe the next day you're interested in another topic, 395 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: go in there and pick another one. Just don't try 396 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: to go there and read everything because it's overwhelming and 397 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: you time to think about the information, and you need 398 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: time to maybe even go and do your own research. 399 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: We don't have an exhaustible list of sources on here. Eventually, 400 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: maybe we'd like to but you know, it really is 401 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: something that you have to just kind of take in 402 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: little pieces and digest and think about. So, you know, 403 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: we talked about the general sections are the death experience 404 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: for adults, the death experience for children, transformation from human 405 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: to spirit, the afterlife of course, reincarnation, and life on Earth, 406 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: and all of those are broken down into those two 407 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: sixty five topic areas. So there's a lot of information 408 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: and it's all free for anybody to go on and 409 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: take a look at. Guys and gals. Will take a 410 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back with Michelle Sebo and 411 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: Dr Dennis Gregor. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife 412 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 413 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: m paranormal podcast network. Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades 414 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife coming right up. My name is Mark Rowlings, 415 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: president of Paranormal Date dot Com. Over five years ago, 416 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: George Nor approached me with a unique concept, a dating 417 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: site for people searching for someone with interest in UFOs, ghosts, Bigfoot, 418 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and the paranormal. 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I'm Sandra Champlain and I'm with Dr 428 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: Dennis Gregor and Michelle Sebo, co founders of afterlife Data 429 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: dot Com and afterlife library dot com. So will you 430 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: tell us about afterlife library dot com. When we were 431 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: doing afterlife data, we picked specific sources that we knew 432 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: we were very well respected and reliable sources for the 433 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: afterlife data information. But there was also a lot of 434 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: other sources that we didn't use that were still important 435 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: but maybe didn't quite have the information that we were 436 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: looking for for afterlife data. But that doesn't mean that 437 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: the information wasn't important. So we decided, well, let's create 438 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: afterlife libraries so that people know about these other sources 439 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: that they can go and they can look through some 440 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: of the popular categories on afterlife library, and we have 441 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: this little word map right that takes a look at 442 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, people's you know, when they visit and what 443 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: they're interested in. You can see it right on the homepage. 444 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: So the most interested topic is paranormal and psychic phenomenon, 445 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: so that's the thing that people are looking for on 446 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: Afterlife Library. And then there's things like dreams and Buddhism 447 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: and g R. S. Mead, Urban Loslow. You know, some 448 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: of these are topics and some of them are authors. 449 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: And then it goes down to our consciousness and the incarnation, religion, ETI, 450 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: genetic biology, science. So there's all types of different categories 451 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: and from nation here, if you go through and browse 452 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: the entire library, you'll see that it's split up into afterlife, consciousness, paranormal, reincarnation, religion, science, 453 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: and then we actually have writer collections, so we've taken 454 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: and organized that same information by the writers themselves. So 455 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: you can just go in there and you can browse around. 456 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: You can certainly do a search. On the home page. 457 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: We have a little random thing that says, look at 458 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: what the universe picked for you, and there's five books 459 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: there that universe is just randomly picked. That's fun, So 460 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of fun, yeah, a little fun. The other 461 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: thing that we have on Afterlife Library is we you know, 462 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: we get a lot of questions through Afterlife Data UM. 463 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: We get lots and lots of emails from people around 464 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: the world, and a lot of those answers to those 465 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: questions that people have asked us have become kind of 466 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: a question and answer thing on Afterlife Library, so you 467 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: can go to this area where you have beginner questions 468 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: and then something that's a little bit more advanced UM 469 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: that are personal guides. So at the beginner questions, there's 470 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: different types of things we address, like, you know, what 471 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: is astral projection, what is death? What do some scientists 472 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: say about the afterlife UM? And a bunch of other things. 473 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, what is past life progression e v P? 474 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Does reincarnation really exists? You know, all those different things, 475 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: and we actually suggest books that people can go and 476 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: read on those things, you know, after we've answered the 477 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: question for them. So it's really a nice compliment to 478 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Afterlife Data to kind of take you that step further 479 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: to say, okay, you know what else can I learn? Excellent, 480 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: denn If you have anything you want to add other 481 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: than UH in afterlife data. We've taken readings from UH 482 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: mediumistic communicating ations automatic writing, which is a type of 483 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: mediumship channeled readings, you know, like the seth material between 484 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: life progression and past life progression. And we've taken the 485 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: writings from those different areas and compared the consistency of 486 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: the information on those two hundred sixty five different topics, 487 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: and so we found that the accuracy or the agreement 488 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: between these different areas it's almost nine and uh, you know, 489 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can find that even among 490 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: two common mechanics looking at your car to agree on 491 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: what's wrong with it. And this goes over almost well 492 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: about a hundred and fifty years too, from the eighteen 493 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: hundreds up until current day writings. So we're talking about 494 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: a long period of time where there's been different communications 495 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: during the different periods, and they agree in terms of 496 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: what death is like, what the transitions like, what the 497 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: afterlife is like, whether there's reincarnation or not, you know, 498 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: And so there's something to be said about having that 499 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: kind of information coming from despair sources and they were 500 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: agreeing with each other. So that was one of the 501 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: main things that was really convincing for us when we 502 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: were going through it, because we only didn't know what 503 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: to expect, you know. We we thought maybe things were 504 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: going to be all over the landscape and we found 505 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: out that No. Yeah, we're saying pretty much the same thing. 506 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: That's true. Even one of the things people ask me 507 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: about often is near death experiences. There can be as 508 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: many different near death experiences as there's human beings that 509 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: have ever walked on planet Earth. And all that's fine 510 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: because I think there still is a part of us 511 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: that's still connected to our bodies etherically until we go 512 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: on to the other side. But there's a lot of 513 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: common things that happened to all or that may So 514 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: it's again, go on your own personal journey because your soul, 515 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: your life is for a purpose, and you'll find those 516 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: things that you're more passionate about there's a reason to it, 517 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: and bounce things off your own truth. You create your 518 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: own truth. I don't believe a what a lot of 519 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: my friends believe in in the world of afterlife things, 520 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: and so what how do these things impact me in 521 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: my life and what I'm up to. I just want 522 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: to ask each of you, since you started this journey 523 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: of discovery and sharing. How has your life changed or 524 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: improved from maybe before you got interested in is there 525 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: an afterlife? Okay, I'll go first. Um, I think you 526 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: really start to be able to remove yourself from you know, 527 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: often crumby situations. Right, Um, you know, maybe you're you know, 528 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: your knee jerk reaction, you know, maybe you know twenty 529 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: years ago, right would have been to yell back at 530 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: somebody or you know, say something horrible or you know whatever. 531 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I found myself that although sometimes I can still do that, 532 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're not all perfect, Um, that I'm able 533 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: to see it almost as a third party kind of 534 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: hanging out over here, you know, and realize what a 535 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: situation is for what it is, and maybe be able 536 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: to see not just you know, the bad things about that, 537 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: but maybe what it's teaching me or what I'm meant 538 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: to learn from something like that. Right. One of the 539 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: things that and I'll speak for Dennis as well on this, 540 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: and I don't think he'll argue with me, but he 541 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: can't after actor is talking, is that we're all responsible 542 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: for our own reality. We're responsible for everything that we're in, 543 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad. It doesn't make any difference. 544 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: We are responsible for creating our own reality, and that's 545 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: a big That was a big thing for me because 546 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: before where I might have been the victim, I now say, wow, 547 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: how and why did I create that? And especially when 548 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a bad situation, maybe there's a health problem, 549 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: or maybe there's a real conflict with someone and whatever, 550 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: the point is that you create these things. And I 551 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: think oftentimes that's very difficult for people to swallow, especially 552 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: when they're in a really bad situation. You know, they 553 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: feel very victimized. And I would say that's one of 554 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: the biggest things that's changed for me. Yeah, that sounds great, 555 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: But for myself I look at it very much the 556 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: same way. In order to be responsible and empower me 557 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: for my life. I know there's some cases of some 558 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: really awful things that happen, So I do think there 559 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: are other players. And you know, we can't always be 560 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: in charge of whether our child gets sick or car 561 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: accident things, but we can use every circumstance to empower 562 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: us for for living our best life. And when I 563 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: am in one of those roles of making someone wrong, 564 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: I say, say there's a tree down and I am 565 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: late for a meeting while I'm driving, I can spend 566 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: an hour making somebody else wrong instead of saying, Sandra, 567 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: you chose to go this route. So yes, Um, A 568 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: lot of people do believe that we have soul plans, 569 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: and I think we do coming into this life. Whether 570 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: it's all mapped out or not, I'm not sure, but 571 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: like you say, everything we can use to empower ourselves 572 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: and learn from So I think that's really that's really great, Dennis. 573 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 1: How about you collapse with um normal under any fear 574 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: about anything, also a feeling or a knowledge that we're 575 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: basically in a training ground. We're learning how to manipulate energy, 576 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: and so I've learned how to where I'm still learning 577 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: how to become basically in the present, and that the 578 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: point of power is in the presence in that, Like Michelle, 579 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm all the way in terms of I create my 580 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: reality completely a hundred percent, and I believe that's true 581 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: for everyone. Obviously there's interactions, and you know, there's collections 582 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: of energy that form you know, societies and governments and 583 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: so forth. But our own individual reality I feel we created, 584 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: and for read, that's what I've been learning to do. Uh. 585 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: Prior to that, Uh, yeah, I was reset by events 586 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: that I thought were out of control in the chaotic 587 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: universe that was created by accident. No longer, you know. 588 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: It's uh, everything is for a purpose, everything for a reason, 589 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: and because of that, you can now determine your own reality. 590 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: From my perspective is that I'm creating my reality, and 591 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: so I take the time now to determine what I'm 592 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: going to do and what I'm going to manifest next. 593 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a complete freedom, the freedom of knowing 594 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: that you're in a safe universe. There's nothing to worry about, 595 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: You're never gonna die, you never died in the first place, 596 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: and you were born, you were you were alive before 597 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: you were born. So with that kind of knowledge, um, 598 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: you know, it just is just am and it's fun 599 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: and every day is exciting and you look with wonder 600 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: as to what what you're going to be doing or 601 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do and what you're determined to do. 602 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's how it's changed. Oh that's great, Dennis. 603 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: It reminds me of being a kid. We didn't have 604 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: a fear of anything. We wanted to wake up in 605 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: the morning, jump out of bed, the life we had 606 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: in front of us was an adventure. We didn't want 607 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: to go to bed at night when we had to. 608 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: It's a whole different way of living life when you 609 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: believe in the afterlife, when you believe you truly can't fail, 610 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: when you believe your loved ones are still around and 611 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: you're going to see them again. We're going to take 612 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: a break and when we come back, I'd like to 613 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: find out more what you're up to, so we'll see 614 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: you in a minute. 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I'm Sandra Champlain and we're with 642 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: Michelle Sebo and Dr Dennis Gregor, founders of Afterlife Data 643 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: dot com and Afterlife Library dot com. And they're also 644 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: up to something else, so you guys, I would love 645 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: now if we could talk about voices across the Vale. 646 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: What is it alright? Dennis Europe first on this one. 647 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: Voices are VAIL came as a result of getting many 648 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: emails from people around the world that had visited Apple 649 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: Life Data and Apple Life Library and wanted to communicate 650 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: with the medium or you know, municate with their loved ones. 651 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: And since we didn't know mediums from all around the 652 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: world and everyone was in different locations, Voices across the 653 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: Ail came as kind of a natural result that we 654 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: would bring the mediums to them and make it available 655 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: and affordable and make sure that the mediums that we 656 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: had had great experience and they could provide evidence and best. 657 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: What's happened. We're now going into our fifth year and 658 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: we've had astounding sessions of information coming through that has 659 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: just you know, blown people's minds. Just when we did 660 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: um the symposium at an r a I in two 661 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: thousand and sevent team we had, you know, analyzed the 662 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: data and we found that up to nine percent of 663 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: the people that have participated in Voices sessions who were 664 00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: unsure or not sure uh the afterlife became said yes, 665 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: they were showed. You know, that's a significant percentage of 666 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: people from just participating in a session like that, and 667 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: we also found that like a of the people had recognizable, 668 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: accurate communications, So you know, that's a high percentage, and 669 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: that means that the information coming through, you're going to 670 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: recognize it and you're gonna be able to communicate with 671 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: those people that you no longer see physically but now 672 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: no exists still nonphysically, and it's it's just a wonderful program. 673 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: Share with us what it looks like, because I mean, 674 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: or how people would access this, because this is something 675 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: we have to live, go to or do we do 676 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: this on the computer. All of the voices across the 677 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: Veil sessions are online, so they just use a little 678 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: bit of video conferencing software and they just get online 679 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: and it's a small group session, you know, we range 680 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: any place from two people to six p and the 681 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: medium gets on as well as either Dennis or myself 682 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: or sometimes both of us, and the medium just starts 683 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: delivering messages and it is really fabulous. If I could, 684 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: I just want to read to you a couple of 685 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: things that people from voices across the Veil sessions have said, 686 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: because some of them are really amazing. You know, we 687 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: had somebody who said, um, let's see, I'm just kind 688 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: of scrolling through them here. The nature of one reading 689 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: and giving the edge of grief and the transformation I 690 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: am currently going through it is truly life changing. I 691 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 1: hope that gives you appreciation or how critical the work 692 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: you're doing is to our evolving state of consciousness. That 693 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: was fabulous. I mean, you know, it truly helped this 694 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: woman moved forward, which is terrific. Another lady said, immediately 695 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: after the session, I asked my sixty year old if 696 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: she had written a poem or song or let or 697 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: to Grandma after she had passed. Now, the medium had 698 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: mentioned this letter during the reading, but actually a poem, 699 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: and the sixteen year old had never told anybody about it. 700 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: She had put it. I think she's set in a 701 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: little box under her bed or something, never told anyone, 702 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: And she was completely taken aback because it was something 703 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: she had done and never told anyone at all, and 704 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: the medium knew that this letter or poem existed. Another 705 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: lady said, I believe the information that came through about 706 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: my son identified him, and I feel he was contacted 707 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: by the medium. My son did not believe in life 708 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 1: after death. I guess he didn't know everything after all. 709 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: Another person that was amazing. This is right after the session. 710 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: Because of you, I am finally going to have a 711 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: real night's rest. I will no longer doubt my marriage 712 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: and my life is now going to change for the better. Beautiful. Yeah, 713 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: and one last one I'll leave you with. This was 714 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: actually from Craig Hogan, who, of course you know, is 715 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: the president of air I. He had sat in on 716 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: a session as well when we first were starting to 717 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: get to know him, and he said the readings were excellent. 718 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: My own had many evidential statements. Listening to the other 719 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: participants readings was uplifting and interesting. You know, we've never 720 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: had anybody come back and say, oh, that was horrible. 721 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: Does everyone get a reading? That is in the group, 722 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: So if there's six of us, does everybody get one? Yes. 723 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: The only caveat I would put on that is if 724 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: somebody is there and is energetically holding something from coming through. 725 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: You know as well as I Sandra that you know, 726 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: energy is very subtle. You know, even when you have 727 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: things coming through for yourself, like when I do Reiky sessions, 728 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: I have things coming through and I have to be 729 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: I have to step lightly because you have to just 730 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: listen carefully and try not to say I can guess right. 731 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: So all of this information is can be very subtle, 732 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: and when somebody is energetically blocking that information, it can 733 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: be difficult to have readings. So what the mediums usually 734 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: do is have everybody kind of relax and do a 735 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: little bit of visualization first, just to get them to 736 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 1: kind of put aside any energetic blocks that they may have, 737 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: and usually comes off wonderfully so well, I know, really 738 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: really good stuff. In the beginning of me and mediumship, 739 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell anybody anything about me, and 740 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: not that you have to, but there's a difference going 741 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: into one of these things with a fear and a 742 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: block as opposed to I'm gonna let my personality shine. 743 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll get to know this person and be open and 744 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: and come from that point of view. I know, fanger, grief, 745 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: any of those things. You know that because there's such 746 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: powerful emotions and they can really take over everything that's 747 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: going on. Yes, and I know with yourselves and with 748 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: the mediums that you use, your friendly you're good people, 749 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: you care and that resonates and I do think if 750 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: there may be a block that really helps people go. 751 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: You know what, these are good people. This this is 752 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: this is a safe space. And I like the fact 753 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: that there are other people also in the room, whether 754 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: it's one or many, because you know, you get a 755 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: couple of bits of information for yourself or more, you know, 756 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: that's great. But then also to hear the other people 757 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: what they get, I mean, you feel it. It just 758 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: resonates like this is the real deal. Our loved ones 759 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: are there, and I think we all know, even the 760 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: person listening right now, grief has the potential to kill us. 761 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: And I don't I mean yes, physically, I mean there's 762 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: an unbelievably high suicide rate among the grieving. But not 763 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: only that is I have met people and I'm sure 764 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: you have too, that maybe thirty years ago someone close 765 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: to them physically died and they stopped living, they stopped 766 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: having hope. They just you know, one lady I knew 767 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: was in her house for six months. It didn't leave 768 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: after her husband died, and God bless her adult daughters. 769 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: They left a copy of my book in the ladies 770 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: house and she didn't want to read it. She was 771 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: threatening to throw it away, but She ended up opening 772 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: it up and within not too long she was out 773 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: country line dancing again and it got her on her 774 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: journey to look for more evidence. So gives people in life. 775 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: It also affects UH the people that are transitioned to 776 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: Part of the grieving is not knowing, you know, not 777 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: knowing what actually happened, whether they're still alive or not. 778 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: If you knew they were still alive and that you know, 779 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: you could communicate with them, you wouldn't have the same 780 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: level of grief that people do have. Do You Guys 781 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: each have an area if you were to go to 782 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: Afterlife Data dot Com that you have your own special 783 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: areas right now that you're investigating for yourselves. Yeah, I'm 784 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: looking in terms of UH, the afterlife dimensions and getting 785 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: a map together in terms of what it's like. There's 786 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: you know, millions of different levels of the afterlife and 787 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: different communities of vibrationally compatible people, and I'm trying to 788 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: learn more in terms of what goes on there and 789 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: what can be done so that we can actually present 790 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: more of that information on the site. Excellent, Michelle. That's 791 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: a really tough one to answer for me because I 792 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: tend to go all over the place. Dennis with his 793 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: PhD and all his reading and researching and you know, 794 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 1: doing all of that schooling. I think serves him really 795 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: well with that because I tend to, you know, go 796 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: and grab information and then washed around in my head 797 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: really quick and say, okay, that means this, right, I 798 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: would say probably the thing that is interesting me the 799 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: most right now is what actually happens after we get 800 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: to that afterlife, all right? Calling it the afterlife it 801 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: almost seems a little bit weird because it's all part 802 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: of life, right, right, But you know, we know what 803 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: happens here, right because we're living it, we're existing in it, 804 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: and all of that. Well, what happens when we're actually there? 805 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: What are we what do we experience there? So that's 806 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: the information that I've starting to really get interested in. 807 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: And of course, you know, on this plane, because all 808 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: of it's connected, just the energetic work, because of my 809 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: raiki work and the spiritual coaching and things that I do. 810 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: I really find it fascinating some of the energetic experiments 811 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: that have been done. For example, you know Gary Schwartz, 812 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: of course, did you know the energy experiments? Right? The 813 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: information in that book is astounding thank you both so much. 814 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: You get to a point in your life that you've 815 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: learned so much that it is just so natural to 816 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: want to give back and then to be able to 817 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: help people transform in their lives. And I love that 818 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: about the two of you, that you're doing that, So 819 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: thank you both. Thank you. You are most welcome. And 820 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: as a reminder, afterlife library dot com, afterlife data dot com. 821 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: We'll get you to the right places. And then also 822 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: if you want to join me for something, go to 823 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 1: We Don't Die dot com. That's the title of my book, 824 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: so easy to remember. We have online workshops, are free 825 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: Sunday gatherings, medium demonstrations every month, and so much more. 826 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: I am going to leave you with that thought from 827 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: the very beginning is if you can wake up in 828 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: the morning and write down the things that you believe 829 00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: in that empower you successes. You've had things about yourself 830 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,959 Speaker 1: that are positive, things that you believe in the afterlife. 831 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: Maybe you've witnessed some miracles, put them down somewhere obvious 832 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 1: that you'll see them, and first thing in the morning, 833 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: take a look, wake up on the right side of 834 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: the bed. Be empowered that we create our own reality. 835 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: This is Sanders Champlain and I want to thank you 836 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: so much for listening. You've been listening to Shades of 837 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 838 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And if you like this 839 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until you hear 840 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: the next one. Thank you for listening to the I 841 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast 842 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: Network