Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. I'll Peanut
Speaker 1: Tillman and this is my uncle Roman Harper.
Speaker 2: I was your nephew earlier. You can give my uncle Roman.
Speaker 2: You know you go up and down whatever.
Speaker 3: You look older than me.
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Speaker 2: Hey, we had a great interview with Calvin Johnson. Give
Speaker 2: it a listen.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about this guest that we have today, and
Speaker 4: it's really because we know this player very very well.
Speaker 4: We both played against him. You played against him all
Speaker 4: the time. You guys had legendary battles. And he is
Speaker 4: a great human being doing some really great things. Brother,
Speaker 4: and just an immaculate person as well, very humble and
Speaker 4: just really great to have me.
Speaker 1: Look, he's I'm gonna read some of his resume highlights
Speaker 1: because he's got so many.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. Well, first off, they
Speaker 2: call him Megatron Mega.
Speaker 1: He's the second overall pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven draft. He played nine years for the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: from the d four time All Pro holds the NFL
Speaker 1: record for the most receiving yards in a single season
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred yards or hundred and sixty four. He got
Speaker 1: inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: First ballot. First ballot. That means something, that means a lot.
Speaker 1: So please welcome a good friend of mine and our guests.
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson appreciated fellas, what's good man going?
Speaker 3: Good man? It's good to see y'all. Buddy, man, it's
Speaker 3: been a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it has been like we were, you know,
Speaker 1: we were across the way, across the room, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, is that isn't what I think?
Speaker 1: And I think I was talking to CJ.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, man, we have some legendary battles.
Speaker 3: Yo. Like that.
Speaker 1: We was like, I leave Fraser like we had some
Speaker 1: heavyweight battles.
Speaker 2: It was great. We want I'm going to I want
Speaker 2: to ask.
Speaker 4: Him about that, but first of all, I want to
Speaker 4: know before before we addressed the elephant in the room,
Speaker 4: because I got a real big question for you too
Speaker 4: about your career. But number one, what was your first like,
Speaker 4: welcome to the NFL. Moment, you get drafted to Detroit.
Speaker 4: You come from Georgia Tech. Not everybody saw you playing
Speaker 4: ball out in college, but we saw you at the combine.
Speaker 4: We talked about that earlier. I asked him, did he
Speaker 4: For those that don't know, I said, Calvin, did you
Speaker 4: run at the combine? We were talking about it.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, I ran. That's that what I forgot.
Speaker 3: You said.
Speaker 2: Two, three, five fast. Guys always run fast.
Speaker 4: So what was your first like, welcome to the NFL
Speaker 4: moment going to Detroit?
Speaker 3: Man? Who so many but welcome to the NFL. Shoot,
Speaker 3: I don't land it in Detroit, man. We went to
Speaker 3: the practice facility and I think we went downtown, maybe
Speaker 3: to the stadium. But on my way from the airport,
Speaker 3: I want to go right back home. I'm like, can
Speaker 3: y'all put me on the next thing back to Atlanta broke.
Speaker 3: All I saw was dilapidated buildings, burnt down buildings. It
Speaker 3: was an eyesore Detroit. I mean from where Detroit is
Speaker 3: now to where it was fifteen years ago, night and day.
Speaker 4: And that's Detsemack in the middle of the crisis too.
Speaker 4: And the housing crisis in seven. Yeah, probably getting drafted No.
Speaker 4: Seven yep. So yeah, you're debt smack in the middle
Speaker 4: of it. Oh yeah, everything's going.
Speaker 3: To Detroit got thousands of thousands of homes and you
Speaker 3: can only imagine how many were abandon like I say,
Speaker 3: burnt down. And it was just it was a very
Speaker 3: depressing scene, to say the least.
Speaker 4: Calvin, could you please indulge in this give us an
Speaker 4: insight on what all you knew when you had to
Speaker 4: face against Charles p Nutt Tillman, because you guys faced
Speaker 4: each other twice a year.
Speaker 2: Legendary battles. This he had the formula against you.
Speaker 4: Actually, he was like the one guy around the league
Speaker 4: that we say, hey, we can trying to emulate anything
Speaker 4: like Pa was doing. At least frustrate him, you know,
Speaker 4: holding him to sixty yards. That's a great day, Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 4: So what did you know or do prepare mentally physically
Speaker 4: going into these games before?
Speaker 3: Before the first time I played Peanut, all I heard
Speaker 3: was from Roy Williams like, you got the dog over there.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, all right, you know, I see when
Speaker 3: I get out there, you know. But the first game
Speaker 3: I played, you was playing may be a little bit
Speaker 3: of Roy. But then later in the game, I started
Speaker 3: seeing more of you, and I was I was mad
Speaker 3: at Peanut for a minute, you know, at least like
Speaker 3: until the next year, until I talked to you again,
Speaker 3: because he tackled me and he was almost like a
Speaker 3: horse call tackle on the sideline, like oh yeah, but
Speaker 3: I was so zone yeah yeah, sideline, And I was like,
Speaker 3: I was just mad at him. He didn't probably ain't, no,
Speaker 3: I was just steaming. I was just I did not like.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's he's not a good guy.
Speaker 2: That's Colvin. Yeah, he's not a good not a good guy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But every but ever since then, man, I had to
Speaker 3: play this dude twice a year. It's to bring your
Speaker 3: lunch peal kind of game. There's not a playoff, and
Speaker 3: it was there's I don't know if there's another player
Speaker 3: like this where I had to play against in every
Speaker 3: play he gonna bring it. Like usually by the end
Speaker 3: of the game, I'm leaning on folks, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: like to grab him, try to move him around a
Speaker 3: little bit. So I'm here and I'm gonna be here
Speaker 3: all game. Peanut was bringing that same energy, so I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, this is how it's gonna be. I'm like,
Speaker 3: dang boy, I can't wait for this boy to get traded.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: No, it was beautiful, man, because he made plays on me.
Speaker 3: You know, I was able to make plays, but it
Speaker 3: was never easy. He made me work for it, and
Speaker 3: that's why I appreciated the most. That's why while I
Speaker 3: like playing Chicago so much, because I knew I was
Speaker 3: gonna get that legitimate battle. It's gonna be super authentic.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough as hell. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the game, you know, whether we win or we lose,
Speaker 3: I know I was gonna be satisfied because I know
Speaker 3: I was gonna get my all and I know I
Speaker 3: was gonna get it off from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can honestly say that when people
Speaker 1: asked me about who was one of the toughest receivers,
Speaker 1: you are in that conversation and the thing that I
Speaker 1: appreciated the most about you.
Speaker 2: Because everyone's like, oh, who's who's the biggest trash targle?
Speaker 2: Who talked it? I was like, it wasn't Calvin. He
Speaker 2: didn't I never heard. He just didn't say nothing. He
Speaker 2: was quiet, you know, why.
Speaker 3: Bro, you see me out there? I'm running nine all games.
Speaker 3: Time to be talking to y'all right, to be there
Speaker 3: to end the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would.
Speaker 1: I would literally sounds like he don't. He's a silent professional.
Speaker 1: He doesn't say nothing. He just you know, you make
Speaker 1: a good play. He makes a good play. He gets up,
Speaker 1: gives a ball, official goes back in the hudel, and
Speaker 1: he just does it again.
Speaker 2: Touchdown. He all right, So you know, what is your
Speaker 2: best Calvin Johnson moment? Best Calvin Johnson moment? I kind
Speaker 2: of liked. So the story of you ran like a reverse.
Speaker 2: I don't even yet so it was I probably say.
Speaker 1: That was that was your rookieyear, right, was that your
Speaker 1: rookiear So I switched over to right corner and Zach
Speaker 1: Bowman was the left corner, and you were destroying Zach
Speaker 1: the entire game. So the second half came Lovey Smith
Speaker 1: was like, hey, and that was that was the same year.
Speaker 1: They were like, hey, we think Zach's are our our
Speaker 1: he's our our shutdown corner.
Speaker 2: We're moving you over to the right and.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we gonna see and then you
Speaker 1: exposed him that game come in havetime lovey Smith.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably we probably messed up. Let's list say, Peanut,
Speaker 1: you you go back to handling. Uh, you just follow Calvin.
Speaker 2: Now, we we're gonna let you take care of that,
Speaker 2: all right. Cool.
Speaker 1: So I go back and I do that, and then
Speaker 1: it was a reverse and I remember trying to take
Speaker 1: like the proper angle to try to get you. You know,
Speaker 1: he full three five before too, So I'm running running,
Speaker 1: And I never thought of myself as like a hard
Speaker 1: hitting guy, but I remember on that play when I
Speaker 1: hit him, I was like, yo, I brought his son.
Speaker 2: I gave him business. Let's yo, That's.
Speaker 3: Why I did. I didn't want to see him turned
Speaker 3: up like that. That's another turn up.
Speaker 2: I was excited because when I don't hit people that hard, bro.
Speaker 1: So when I actually got one, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I felt like ray Lewis, I felt like Land's Briggs.
Speaker 2: I felt like t Like. I felt good. So I
Speaker 2: was like my hell, yeah, welcome to the league, sucker.
Speaker 3: I was yo, defense was me?
Speaker 2: I agree?
Speaker 3: You mentioned Briggs and I had to crack on him
Speaker 3: one time that game. Yeah, come down in the short
Speaker 3: motion was peaking in I hope you don't see me,
Speaker 3: and he looked me up. He's like, and he gave
Speaker 3: me a nod. I'm like, I had to go and
Speaker 3: hit him, but he gave me a concussion.
Speaker 1: A concussion, yeah, man, we had I will say this
Speaker 1: about Detroit though. Man, when you when you play the
Speaker 1: team into the division, you know them well, you play
Speaker 1: them twice a year. But those are some I don't
Speaker 1: care if we were ten and OZ. When you guys
Speaker 1: are on ten or whatever the record was, those are
Speaker 1: always the toughest games.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You know, when we were in Carolina, we played Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We should have smashed Atlanta, and they came up and
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of us.
Speaker 2: And that was here. We went to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: We had a great team.
Speaker 1: It's just for whatever, for whatever reason, those teams that
Speaker 1: are in your division, they know every little thing and
Speaker 1: niche about you. And the way you get past that
Speaker 1: is the team who makes the fewest mistakes or executes
Speaker 1: the best. That's the team that's actually.
Speaker 2: Gonna win that.
Speaker 4: All right, It's one quick story here, I gotta get in.
Speaker 4: And this is because it was literally the first time
Speaker 4: anying by the NFL had ever done this and so
Speaker 4: we're in New Orleans, Detroit is coming in.
Speaker 2: It was early in Calvin's career.
Speaker 4: And literally we put two guys on Calvin right on
Speaker 4: the goal line just to tell Matthew Stafford, like, you're
Speaker 4: not going to throw it here. And it was the
Speaker 4: first time anybody ever done this. So when we line
Speaker 4: up two guys right in front of you in the
Speaker 4: red zone, number one, what goes through your mind? And
Speaker 4: then when you guys go through the sidelines, like why
Speaker 4: did this discussion go on? Because I know what we
Speaker 4: were thinking or what we were trying to do, which
Speaker 4: we were just gonna say, we don't care if we
Speaker 4: play with nine guys everybody else but like you can't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 2: So what happened on you guys side?
Speaker 3: When I first saw that, when I lined up and
Speaker 3: I saw I'm like, okay, this is But my initial
Speaker 3: thought was like, okay, they're like y'all were like on
Speaker 3: my on my shoulders. I'm like, I could split these
Speaker 3: guys and still go up and get it. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm thinking. Yeah, But I know Matthew when he looked
Speaker 3: out there, I know he was like I knew that.
Speaker 3: That's the first thing he said but I'm thinking my mind.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like every time, I'm like, dude, just
Speaker 3: throw the ball up, Just throw it up, give me
Speaker 3: a chance, you know. But yeah, Matthew, when he saw that,
Speaker 3: he was like, oh yeah, you didn't have a chance.
Speaker 3: He told me that. He was like, yeah, when I
Speaker 3: saw that, I was like, you weren't getting the ball.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to know like we would. We would watch.
Speaker 1: You day in and day out, week in and week out,
Speaker 1: year in and year out, dominate players all the time.
Speaker 1: I think y'all played Cincinnati and you caught it over
Speaker 1: three dudes. You played Dallas, you caught it over like
Speaker 1: two or three dudes, And I'm just like, man, this
Speaker 1: dude at here, what is it like this? Y'all got
Speaker 1: like three DB's on, you got a free strong and
Speaker 1: a corner.
Speaker 2: And he's still cancl it over.
Speaker 1: Y'all, At what point did you realize you could dominate
Speaker 1: this game?
Speaker 3: Probably like after my second year, now, my rookie year,
Speaker 3: I had a couple of injuries. My second year, I
Speaker 3: came out strong, had a really good season, like thirteen
Speaker 3: hundred twelve thirteen hundred yards, and there's that point where
Speaker 3: you know, we're really you know, Sean Jefferson, my coach,
Speaker 3: you know, we looked at each other at in the season.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, once you go into all season,
Speaker 3: take a good look at yourself in the mirror, because
Speaker 3: what you did this year, it's got to be better
Speaker 3: next year. I'm like, shoot, how I never hit thirteen before?
Speaker 3: But that's how he all just kept pushing. Man, just
Speaker 3: take a look in the mirror. Let's look at our weaknesses. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we know what our strengths are, but we're gonna work
Speaker 3: on those end weaknesses. Day by day. Pick a pick
Speaker 3: an attribute, we're gonna work on it, and then by
Speaker 3: the end of the season, you know, by the end
Speaker 3: of training camp or what have you. If you take
Speaker 3: that approach, working on that one attribute that you need
Speaker 3: assistance in, obviously not neglecting everything else, but really's putting
Speaker 3: a special focus on that. You know, you're gonna see
Speaker 3: that attributes tend to tend to level up with the
Speaker 3: rest of the things that you're good with. So just
Speaker 3: taking those attributes one thing day by day, addam adam
Speaker 3: to the repertoire, or just building upon your toolkit and uh,
Speaker 3: you know I'm able to You're able to you know,
Speaker 3: just you know, do the things that we're doing doing
Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah, be successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so did you I know, what's my favorite pick?
Speaker 1: I know, I gotta I got a favorite play that like,
Speaker 1: I think that like kind of stood out for me.
Speaker 1: Nineteen hundred yards in one season, thirteen twelve hundred one season,
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred another season. Out of out of the nine years,
Speaker 1: with thousands of catches that you've had, what's been like
Speaker 1: your number one catch? What's been your favorite catch? Slash touchdown?
Speaker 3: Now you wouldn't even touch down. It's an overtime play.
Speaker 3: We're down in Temple. Drew Stanton was our quarterback. Matthew
Speaker 3: went down. He was hurt, and it was the It's
Speaker 3: probably one of the coldest toe girl toe taps I've
Speaker 3: had because it wasn't it wasn't a typical toe tap.
Speaker 3: Ran to come back, nice smooth route, had to do running.
Speaker 3: I come back, but I'm on the sideline already and
Speaker 3: Drews has the ball. The ball is up high and
Speaker 3: I can't jump. Unfortunately, it's probably like just like seven
Speaker 3: eight feet in the air, and I had a I
Speaker 3: had literally had my toe. My heels were all the
Speaker 3: way off the sideline. Literally, if this is the sideline,
Speaker 3: he was over the side. I was on the toes,
Speaker 3: on my toes, just keeping my feet in bounce and
Speaker 3: came down with a catch and overtime to help Jason
Speaker 3: Hanson go in to kick the game within the field goal.
Speaker 3: Nobody really knows about that one because you don't get seen.
Speaker 3: But its most proud because the route was crispy and
Speaker 3: just the fundamentals and then then just the toe drag
Speaker 3: like it wasn't even tow dragt swag like I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen nobody catch a ball like that. Both just your
Speaker 3: toes that are on the field and it was like
Speaker 3: this lean back. So it was even I made a
Speaker 3: bunch of crazy catches, but you know, just the moment
Speaker 3: in the game where that was, you know, you know
Speaker 3: how impactful it was. Obviously there's a lot of crazy
Speaker 3: I made catches on top of folks, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I take the most pride in that, you know, seeing
Speaker 3: Randy Moss do it back in the day. I just
Speaker 3: want to take those attributes from Randy t o just
Speaker 3: all those guys I watched growing up just do a
Speaker 3: little better.
Speaker 5: We're going to take a short break and we'll be
Speaker 5: back in a minute.
Speaker 4: Now, you talk about all your attributes and all those
Speaker 4: other things, and what attributes would you say attributed to
Speaker 4: what you're doing now, which is what got you into
Speaker 4: the medical cannabis industry.
Speaker 3: Huh. Really, just my hardhead in this really just going
Speaker 3: hard all the time. That's why in this cannabis in
Speaker 3: That's why I needed all these bumps and bruises, you know,
Speaker 3: but from you know all the time, you know, we
Speaker 3: have those bumps and bruises, and just I used cannabis
Speaker 3: while I played, and you know it was it only
Speaker 3: really started using it when I got to the lead.
Speaker 3: I used a little bit in college, but when I
Speaker 3: got to the league, it really was helping me when
Speaker 3: I get to sleep, you know, limit the pain, Like
Speaker 3: after practice going home, you know, you know, when I
Speaker 3: get home, my light one up just because like I
Speaker 3: get home and I'm aching. I always had chronic swelling
Speaker 3: in my knees and ankles, and there wasn't really anything
Speaker 3: to you know, really help that.
Speaker 1: You just had these ice But did you but did
Speaker 1: you know the marijuana was helping age you or was
Speaker 1: it just like no, I just want to get high.
Speaker 3: It helped me with my quality of life. God it
Speaker 3: as far as you know, being able to sleep and
Speaker 3: not have no problem at night, you know, just numbing
Speaker 3: the pain. Yeah, you know, But it really wasn't until
Speaker 3: I was able to use it in a different application,
Speaker 3: you know, from different from smoking and actually using it
Speaker 3: in a topical form, when I was really like light bulb,
Speaker 3: you know. Okay, let's get down to the science of this,
Speaker 3: because there's something here.
Speaker 2: Right, So you got out what was your last year?
Speaker 3: Fifteen?
Speaker 2: So your last year was fifteen?
Speaker 1: How long would you say it took you to have
Speaker 1: a understanding and start your own practice and go out
Speaker 1: and speak the way you speak about it because you're
Speaker 1: passionate about it.
Speaker 2: I love that about you. But like, what how long did.
Speaker 1: Would you say it took you to be or to
Speaker 1: become warre you are right now rather than just all right,
Speaker 1: I'm just like one up just for quality of life.
Speaker 3: When I got done playing that, I mean I had
Speaker 3: I did a couple of different things, just trying to figure
Speaker 3: out where I wanted to be at with timing. Timing
Speaker 3: is everything. Cannabis injury came along in Michigan. I was
Speaker 3: passionate about it, and it's mainly yeah, I used to
Speaker 3: while I was playing, But when I was on the
Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars show, that's when I really that's
Speaker 3: when the light bulb went off because I wanted to
Speaker 3: Dance with the Stars show and.
Speaker 2: They with you long hours too, bro, Really don't let
Speaker 2: them trick long hours, trick long out a.
Speaker 3: Hell of an experience. If you like the movie, you
Speaker 3: like to dance, like to be active, you know, it's experience.
Speaker 3: To the finals. I was in third place, okay, but
Speaker 3: you're based the finals, you get your bonus, so it
Speaker 3: was good. But I was in the show about three
Speaker 3: weeks and you know, you're dancing, bro, it's like footwork,
Speaker 3: It's just like and my ankles and my knees started
Speaker 3: to swoll up again on me. So we got to
Speaker 3: the point where I was just like, you know, I
Speaker 3: can't move out here like I need to. It's like
Speaker 3: when I got done planning, I can't move. I can't
Speaker 3: have the explosion. And I would look at my ankles
Speaker 3: like balloons. And my buddy. I told my buddy when
Speaker 3: to Georgia Tech with him. He's in the film industry
Speaker 3: out there in Cali. I was like, man, I don't
Speaker 3: have to quit the show because I like, I just
Speaker 3: hang out with him whenever I went out there and
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I can't move, my ankles are swollen,
Speaker 3: my knees are swollen. Like I can't do all that.
Speaker 3: I can't do all the moves and whatnot. And he
Speaker 3: break in. He brought me a topical I remember, the
Speaker 3: green glass jar with a gold cap. Used it. A
Speaker 3: couple of days later, my swelling started to go down,
Speaker 3: and it stayed down, and I kept on using I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: there's something here. There's something here. And that's where I mean.
Speaker 3: I was already passionate about Cannon because I knew it
Speaker 3: helped me a little bit, but to really know that
Speaker 3: there's something more to it, that's when I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's get to the science.
Speaker 4: Of it all right, now, what is the long term
Speaker 4: plan for your specifically? I know you're talking about expanding
Speaker 4: into Boston and some other areas. I know you've been
Speaker 4: down in Alabama doing work with some of the hospitals
Speaker 4: and different people down there. Maybe share with some of
Speaker 4: the people you know. I'm good friends of Rob Sims and.
Speaker 2: His wife of course, Natalie. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to school with his wife, Natalie and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So I've got to know the other
Speaker 4: side of it. And I know some of your business partners,
Speaker 4: and I know what you guys are thinking, but I
Speaker 4: want you to share with some of our listeners some
Speaker 4: of the long term plans of what Calvin Johnson in
Speaker 4: this group is doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we call it, I mean, our company is
Speaker 3: called Primitive. Called primitive because people have been using cannabis
Speaker 3: for thousands of a year, so by definition it is primitive.
Speaker 3: But we really truly believe in the healing powers of
Speaker 3: the plant. We're here, we're advocates for the industry. We're
Speaker 3: trying to destigmatize it, but at the same time come
Speaker 3: up with new innovative products. And that's what that's what
Speaker 3: I'm excited about right now, because we're getting to that
Speaker 3: point where we're being able to create these new innovative products.
Speaker 3: And we talk about innovation in cannabis, you know, we're
Speaker 3: talking about bringing like, you know, pharmaceutical grade equipment and
Speaker 3: using it with cannabis, you know, And that's what we're
Speaker 3: doing right now. And with that, we're able to create
Speaker 3: the cannabis particles and such a small size using nanotechnology
Speaker 3: that it's more efficient. You know, talent all and all
Speaker 3: those things. It's nanotechnology. It's small particle size that's able
Speaker 3: to bypass through your intestinal system and get into the bloodstream,
Speaker 3: therefore making it more effective. So just creating products of
Speaker 3: that sort, and we're just scratching the surface. You know.
Speaker 3: Our first two products that we came out with is
Speaker 3: a ORRS, which is an oral rehydration solution and the
Speaker 3: topical cream. The reason why we came out with those
Speaker 3: because we used them religiously when we played got to
Speaker 3: stay hydrated. It's key, and you get the topicals that
Speaker 3: we used. It was just cooling and heating. There was
Speaker 3: really no function to it. But now we're able to
Speaker 3: add cannabinoids to it. We're able to ad cannabinoids to it, CBD, CBG, CBC,
Speaker 3: CBD or CBG. Adding these cannabinoids to them increases the
Speaker 3: anti inflammation of properties that you're putting into your body.
Speaker 3: So and those different cannabinoids have proven to be anti inflammatory.
Speaker 3: So it's inciting man just being able to bring these
Speaker 3: products to market that will be effective for the masses.
Speaker 4: I know we got to go here and I want
Speaker 4: to ask you the same question we always trying to
Speaker 4: ask everybody before we let you off the hot seat.
Speaker 4: I know you got to catch a flight, but who
Speaker 4: is in your mount Rushmore of influence? Whether it's coaches,
Speaker 4: paying family. It's only four, but I would like to
Speaker 4: know your mount More Rushmore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rushmore of influence. I don't want to say parents.
Speaker 3: That's two. It's giving one want entity, we let you
Speaker 3: have one. So I got my parents. Derek Moore, he
Speaker 3: was my chaplain at Georgia Tech. You know, it really
Speaker 3: spoke to me spiritually, really got me in a place
Speaker 3: where I was able to be my own believer, you know,
Speaker 3: and not that I wasn't going into college, but to
Speaker 3: you know, do it yourself. You know, to understand, have
Speaker 3: an understanding for yourself is different than just when you're
Speaker 3: coming up and you know, getting it from your family
Speaker 3: and the church. So my parents, Derek Moore, Jefferson, my
Speaker 3: receiver coach. You know, he was a great player, but
Speaker 3: he's a great man. You know, not only did he
Speaker 3: teach us how to be great players, but his biggest,
Speaker 3: bigger focus was on being a better man. All the
Speaker 3: skills he taught me, you know, it was you know, shoot.
Speaker 3: You know, all the different sayings, you know, keep stacking
Speaker 3: or you know, stay ready so you don't have to
Speaker 3: get ready. All those things ring true and there's legitimate
Speaker 3: meaning behind all those things. And lastly, this last one's tough.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say my big sister, and Big says, it
Speaker 3: has been such an influence in my life. Positive influence.
Speaker 3: You know, she's the doctor. When I was growing up,
Speaker 3: she was my tutor, you know, for her. If it
Speaker 3: wasn't for her, you know, I might have went and
Speaker 3: played Major League baseball out of high school, you know,
Speaker 3: and not even went to college and played. So I
Speaker 3: was able to get the college experience because she was
Speaker 3: tutoring me at Clark Atlanta University. I got to be
Speaker 3: around at AUC and just see what it's like to
Speaker 3: be in college. I was like, oh, I can't forego this.
Speaker 3: So half my big sister. I have a tremendous amount
Speaker 3: of love for her. You know, she helps me with
Speaker 3: my foundation. So's she's all and everything to us too.
Speaker 3: So those are those are my top four.
Speaker 2: Well, Calvin, thank you, brother, I know you gotta catch
Speaker 2: a flight.
Speaker 3: I appreciate John Man. I love it. This is great man.
Speaker 3: Love to catch up with y'all, man do this more. So.
Speaker 1: We just finished up interview on Calvin Johnson, and I
Speaker 1: told you all the first half of the story about
Speaker 1: the first time that we played him. What I forgot
Speaker 1: to mention is the second half of that story. So
Speaker 1: second half we go in, we're going for halftime and
Speaker 1: coach Smith he comes to me and says, lovely Smith,
Speaker 1: Love Smith.
Speaker 2: Yes, lovey Smith.
Speaker 1: He comes over and then they say, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: make a defensive adjustment real quick. We're gonna put you
Speaker 1: back on Calvin. Things aren't working out too well for Zach,
Speaker 1: So you line up on Calvin.
Speaker 2: Line up on Calvin. Second half, do my thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he catches a couple passes, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, I think I do a pretty good job of,
Speaker 1: you know, locking him down well. Toward the end of
Speaker 1: the game or really like the last one of the
Speaker 1: last plays, I'm on the left, I'm on the right side.
Speaker 1: They put some crazy formation in. Calvin didn't get the
Speaker 1: lineup on my side. I think he was in the
Speaker 1: slot and he motion back across the field. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get him away from Peanut, and he got him
Speaker 1: away from me. It was great matchup. So he's matched
Speaker 1: up back on Zach and then I don't know the
Speaker 1: exact play, but I remember jamming my guy and I
Speaker 1: looked across the field and quarterback throws it.
Speaker 2: He catches it. I mean it was a It was
Speaker 2: an amazing catch kind of in the back half corner
Speaker 2: of the end zone.
Speaker 1: Yep, two feet falls down, sat there for a second,
Speaker 1: and then he used the ball to actually get up,
Speaker 1: to get up and stand up, and then the rough
Speaker 1: feree was like, no catch, no catch, no catch.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also because when he used the ball to
Speaker 4: get up, the ball moved and it like squirted off
Speaker 4: to the side and he got up celebrating. For those
Speaker 4: that you can go back and watch this plays, this
Speaker 4: is what brought up the whole is it a ca
Speaker 4: catch no catch rule? I know Dez Bryant was another
Speaker 4: big one later on versus Stream, but this was one
Speaker 4: of the first real examples that you saw it. Calvin
Speaker 4: Johnson clearly caught this touchdown. He caught the ball, got
Speaker 4: up to celebrate, used the ball as.
Speaker 2: He was getting up, and it was a no catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen years later, I can I can honestly say, yeah,
Speaker 1: the man Calvin called he called the football. It was
Speaker 1: a you know, it should have been a touchdown.
Speaker 2: At the moment. At the time, I was like, no,
Speaker 2: we won that game. Who so tell me because that's
Speaker 2: what I saw. I wanted.
Speaker 4: You know, when you're on the sidelines, you see this
Speaker 4: guy catch the ball, so your mind is it was
Speaker 4: a touchdown.
Speaker 1: When I first saw it, yes, live on the other
Speaker 1: side of the field, I looked as like, oh.
Speaker 2: Damn, mat oh damn, he called it.
Speaker 3: He called it.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, touch he really caught that. But hey, let's
Speaker 2: get off the field.
Speaker 4: Look, so so go as a dB because we always
Speaker 4: take the dB side. At what point, du You're like, man,
Speaker 4: I mean they kind of got cheated. That was kind
Speaker 4: of a touchdown immediately.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about in the locker room. It's like,
Speaker 1: you think that was a hell yeah, it was a catch.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they didn't know it, But I'll
Speaker 2: take the win, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna
Speaker 2: help us out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think everyone knew it was a catch.
Speaker 1: He knew it was a catch. Yeah, that's just one
Speaker 1: less touchdown he has on his stat book. But clearly
Speaker 1: everyone knows it was a catch. Calvin torched us that
Speaker 1: game and they should have won the game, but they didn't.
Speaker 2: Sorry, make a tron.
Speaker 1: We got the dub, but it was a catch, bro,
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a catch too. Thank you
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