1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. I'll Peanut 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Tillman and this is my uncle Roman Harper. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: I was your nephew earlier. You can give my uncle Roman. 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: You know you go up and down whatever. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: You look older than me. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 4: All right, Well, look, as always, I want you guys 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 4: to give us a like a. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Five star rating review. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: After that, make sure you hit follow, give us a subscription, 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 4: and anywhere you listen to your podcast at with his 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: iHeart or Apple podcasts. 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: Hey, we had a great interview with Calvin Johnson. Give 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: it a listen. 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 4: I'm excited about this guest that we have today, and 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: it's really because we know this player very very well. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: We both played against him. You played against him all 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: the time. You guys had legendary battles. And he is 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 4: a great human being doing some really great things. Brother, 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 4: and just an immaculate person as well, very humble and 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: just really great to have me. 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: Look, he's I'm gonna read some of his resume highlights 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: because he's got so many. 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. Well, first off, they 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: call him Megatron Mega. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: He's the second overall pick in the two thousand and 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: seven draft. He played nine years for the Detroit Lions 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: from the d four time All Pro holds the NFL 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: record for the most receiving yards in a single season 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred yards or hundred and sixty four. He got 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in twenty twenty one. 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: First ballot. First ballot. That means something, that means a lot. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: So please welcome a good friend of mine and our guests. 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson appreciated fellas, what's good man going? 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Good man? It's good to see y'all. Buddy, man, it's 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: been a long time. 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it has been like we were, you know, 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: we were across the way, across the room, and I 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, is that isn't what I think? 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: And I think I was talking to CJ. 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, man, we have some legendary battles. 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: Yo. Like that. 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: We was like, I leave Fraser like we had some 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: heavyweight battles. 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: It was great. We want I'm going to I want 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: to ask. 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: Him about that, but first of all, I want to 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: know before before we addressed the elephant in the room, 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: because I got a real big question for you too 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: about your career. But number one, what was your first like, 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: welcome to the NFL. Moment, you get drafted to Detroit. 51 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: You come from Georgia Tech. Not everybody saw you playing 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: ball out in college, but we saw you at the combine. 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: We talked about that earlier. I asked him, did he 54 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: For those that don't know, I said, Calvin, did you 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: run at the combine? We were talking about it. 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, I ran. That's that what I forgot. 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: You said. 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Two, three, five fast. Guys always run fast. 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: So what was your first like, welcome to the NFL 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: moment going to Detroit? 61 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Man? Who so many but welcome to the NFL. Shoot, 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: I don't land it in Detroit, man. We went to 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: the practice facility and I think we went downtown, maybe 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: to the stadium. But on my way from the airport, 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: I want to go right back home. I'm like, can 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: y'all put me on the next thing back to Atlanta broke. 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: All I saw was dilapidated buildings, burnt down buildings. It 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: was an eyesore Detroit. I mean from where Detroit is 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: now to where it was fifteen years ago, night and day. 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 4: And that's Detsemack in the middle of the crisis too. 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: And the housing crisis in seven. Yeah, probably getting drafted No. 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: Seven yep. So yeah, you're debt smack in the middle 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: of it. Oh yeah, everything's going. 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: To Detroit got thousands of thousands of homes and you 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: can only imagine how many were abandon like I say, 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: burnt down. And it was just it was a very 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: depressing scene, to say the least. 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: Calvin, could you please indulge in this give us an 79 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: insight on what all you knew when you had to 80 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: face against Charles p Nutt Tillman, because you guys faced 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: each other twice a year. 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: Legendary battles. This he had the formula against you. 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: Actually, he was like the one guy around the league 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: that we say, hey, we can trying to emulate anything 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: like Pa was doing. At least frustrate him, you know, 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: holding him to sixty yards. That's a great day, Calvin Johnson, 87 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: So what did you know or do prepare mentally physically 88 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: going into these games before? 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Before the first time I played Peanut, all I heard 90 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: was from Roy Williams like, you got the dog over there. 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm just like, all right, you know, I see when 92 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: I get out there, you know. But the first game 93 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: I played, you was playing may be a little bit 94 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: of Roy. But then later in the game, I started 95 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: seeing more of you, and I was I was mad 96 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: at Peanut for a minute, you know, at least like 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 3: until the next year, until I talked to you again, 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: because he tackled me and he was almost like a 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: horse call tackle on the sideline, like oh yeah, but 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: I was so zone yeah yeah, sideline, And I was like, 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: I was just mad at him. He didn't probably ain't, no, 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: I was just steaming. I was just I did not like. 103 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: I was like, he's he's not a good guy. 104 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: That's Colvin. Yeah, he's not a good not a good guy. 105 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: You know. 106 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: But every but ever since then, man, I had to 107 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: play this dude twice a year. It's to bring your 108 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: lunch peal kind of game. There's not a playoff, and 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: it was there's I don't know if there's another player 110 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: like this where I had to play against in every 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: play he gonna bring it. Like usually by the end 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: of the game, I'm leaning on folks, I'm like, I 113 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: like to grab him, try to move him around a 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: little bit. So I'm here and I'm gonna be here 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: all game. Peanut was bringing that same energy, so I'm like, Okay, 116 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: all right, this is how it's gonna be. I'm like, 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: dang boy, I can't wait for this boy to get traded. 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: Well. 119 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: No, it was beautiful, man, because he made plays on me. 120 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: You know, I was able to make plays, but it 121 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: was never easy. He made me work for it, and 122 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: that's why I appreciated the most. That's why while I 123 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: like playing Chicago so much, because I knew I was 124 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: gonna get that legitimate battle. It's gonna be super authentic. 125 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough as hell. But at the end 126 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: of the game, you know, whether we win or we lose, 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: I know I was gonna be satisfied because I know 128 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: I was gonna get my all and I know I 129 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: was gonna get it off from him. 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can honestly say that when people 131 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: asked me about who was one of the toughest receivers, 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: you are in that conversation and the thing that I 133 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: appreciated the most about you. 134 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: Because everyone's like, oh, who's who's the biggest trash targle? 135 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: Who talked it? I was like, it wasn't Calvin. He 136 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: didn't I never heard. He just didn't say nothing. He 137 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: was quiet, you know, why. 138 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Bro, you see me out there? I'm running nine all games. 139 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: Time to be talking to y'all right, to be there 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: to end the game? 141 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would. 142 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: I would literally sounds like he don't. He's a silent professional. 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't say nothing. He just you know, you make 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: a good play. He makes a good play. He gets up, 145 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: gives a ball, official goes back in the hudel, and 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: he just does it again. 147 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: Touchdown. He all right, So you know, what is your 148 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: best Calvin Johnson moment? Best Calvin Johnson moment? I kind 149 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: of liked. So the story of you ran like a reverse. 150 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't even yet so it was I probably say. 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: That was that was your rookieyear, right, was that your 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: rookiear So I switched over to right corner and Zach 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Bowman was the left corner, and you were destroying Zach 154 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: the entire game. So the second half came Lovey Smith 155 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: was like, hey, and that was that was the same year. 156 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: They were like, hey, we think Zach's are our our 157 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: he's our our shutdown corner. 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: We're moving you over to the right and. 159 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we gonna see and then you 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: exposed him that game come in havetime lovey Smith. 161 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we uh. 162 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably we probably messed up. Let's list say, Peanut, 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: you you go back to handling. Uh, you just follow Calvin. 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Now, we we're gonna let you take care of that, 165 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: all right. Cool. 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: So I go back and I do that, and then 167 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: it was a reverse and I remember trying to take 168 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: like the proper angle to try to get you. You know, 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: he full three five before too, So I'm running running, 170 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: And I never thought of myself as like a hard 171 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: hitting guy, but I remember on that play when I 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: hit him, I was like, yo, I brought his son. 173 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: I gave him business. Let's yo, That's. 174 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Why I did. I didn't want to see him turned 175 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: up like that. That's another turn up. 176 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: I was excited because when I don't hit people that hard, bro. 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: So when I actually got one, I was like, yo, 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: I felt like ray Lewis, I felt like Land's Briggs. 179 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: I felt like t Like. I felt good. So I 180 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: was like my hell, yeah, welcome to the league, sucker. 181 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: I was yo, defense was me? 182 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: I agree? 183 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: You mentioned Briggs and I had to crack on him 184 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: one time that game. Yeah, come down in the short 185 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: motion was peaking in I hope you don't see me, 186 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: and he looked me up. He's like, and he gave 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: me a nod. I'm like, I had to go and 188 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: hit him, but he gave me a concussion. 189 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: A concussion, yeah, man, we had I will say this 190 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: about Detroit though. Man, when you when you play the 191 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: team into the division, you know them well, you play 192 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: them twice a year. But those are some I don't 193 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: care if we were ten and OZ. When you guys 194 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: are on ten or whatever the record was, those are 195 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: always the toughest games. 196 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: You know. 197 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, when we were in Carolina, we played Atlanta. 198 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: We should have smashed Atlanta, and they came up and 199 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: beat the crap out of us. 200 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: And that was here. We went to the super Bowl. 201 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: We had a great team. 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: It's just for whatever, for whatever reason, those teams that 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: are in your division, they know every little thing and 204 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: niche about you. And the way you get past that 205 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: is the team who makes the fewest mistakes or executes 206 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: the best. That's the team that's actually. 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Gonna win that. 208 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: All right, It's one quick story here, I gotta get in. 209 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: And this is because it was literally the first time 210 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: anying by the NFL had ever done this and so 211 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: we're in New Orleans, Detroit is coming in. 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: It was early in Calvin's career. 213 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: And literally we put two guys on Calvin right on 214 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: the goal line just to tell Matthew Stafford, like, you're 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: not going to throw it here. And it was the 216 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 4: first time anybody ever done this. So when we line 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: up two guys right in front of you in the 218 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: red zone, number one, what goes through your mind? And 219 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 4: then when you guys go through the sidelines, like why 220 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: did this discussion go on? Because I know what we 221 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: were thinking or what we were trying to do, which 222 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: we were just gonna say, we don't care if we 223 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: play with nine guys everybody else but like you can't 224 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: do it. 225 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: So what happened on you guys side? 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: When I first saw that, when I lined up and 227 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: I saw I'm like, okay, this is But my initial 228 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: thought was like, okay, they're like y'all were like on 229 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: my on my shoulders. I'm like, I could split these 230 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: guys and still go up and get it. That's what 231 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: I'm thinking. Yeah, But I know Matthew when he looked 232 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: out there, I know he was like I knew that. 233 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: That's the first thing he said but I'm thinking my mind. 234 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like every time, I'm like, dude, just 235 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: throw the ball up, Just throw it up, give me 236 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: a chance, you know. But yeah, Matthew, when he saw that, 237 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: he was like, oh yeah, you didn't have a chance. 238 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: He told me that. He was like, yeah, when I 239 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: saw that, I was like, you weren't getting the ball. 240 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: I'm curious to know like we would. We would watch. 241 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: You day in and day out, week in and week out, 242 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: year in and year out, dominate players all the time. 243 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: I think y'all played Cincinnati and you caught it over 244 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: three dudes. You played Dallas, you caught it over like 245 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: two or three dudes, And I'm just like, man, this 246 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: dude at here, what is it like this? Y'all got 247 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: like three DB's on, you got a free strong and 248 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: a corner. 249 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: And he's still cancl it over. 250 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Y'all, At what point did you realize you could dominate 251 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: this game? 252 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: Probably like after my second year, now, my rookie year, 253 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: I had a couple of injuries. My second year, I 254 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: came out strong, had a really good season, like thirteen 255 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: hundred twelve thirteen hundred yards, and there's that point where 256 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, we're really you know, Sean Jefferson, my coach, 257 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: you know, we looked at each other at in the season. 258 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: He was like, man, once you go into all season, 259 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: take a good look at yourself in the mirror, because 260 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: what you did this year, it's got to be better 261 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: next year. I'm like, shoot, how I never hit thirteen before? 262 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: But that's how he all just kept pushing. Man, just 263 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: take a look in the mirror. Let's look at our weaknesses. Yeah, 264 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: we know what our strengths are, but we're gonna work 265 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: on those end weaknesses. Day by day. Pick a pick 266 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: an attribute, we're gonna work on it, and then by 267 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: the end of the season, you know, by the end 268 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: of training camp or what have you. If you take 269 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: that approach, working on that one attribute that you need 270 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: assistance in, obviously not neglecting everything else, but really's putting 271 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: a special focus on that. You know, you're gonna see 272 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: that attributes tend to tend to level up with the 273 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: rest of the things that you're good with. So just 274 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: taking those attributes one thing day by day, addam adam 275 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: to the repertoire, or just building upon your toolkit and uh, 276 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: you know I'm able to You're able to you know, 277 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: just you know, do the things that we're doing doing 278 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah, be successful. 279 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so did you I know, what's my favorite pick? 280 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: I know, I gotta I got a favorite play that like, 281 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: I think that like kind of stood out for me. 282 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Nineteen hundred yards in one season, thirteen twelve hundred one season, 283 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred another season. Out of out of the nine years, 284 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: with thousands of catches that you've had, what's been like 285 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: your number one catch? What's been your favorite catch? Slash touchdown? 286 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: Now you wouldn't even touch down. It's an overtime play. 287 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: We're down in Temple. Drew Stanton was our quarterback. Matthew 288 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: went down. He was hurt, and it was the It's 289 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: probably one of the coldest toe girl toe taps I've 290 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: had because it wasn't it wasn't a typical toe tap. 291 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: Ran to come back, nice smooth route, had to do running. 292 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: I come back, but I'm on the sideline already and 293 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: Drews has the ball. The ball is up high and 294 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: I can't jump. Unfortunately, it's probably like just like seven 295 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: eight feet in the air, and I had a I 296 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: had literally had my toe. My heels were all the 297 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 3: way off the sideline. Literally, if this is the sideline, 298 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: he was over the side. I was on the toes, 299 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: on my toes, just keeping my feet in bounce and 300 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: came down with a catch and overtime to help Jason 301 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: Hanson go in to kick the game within the field goal. 302 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: Nobody really knows about that one because you don't get seen. 303 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: But its most proud because the route was crispy and 304 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: just the fundamentals and then then just the toe drag 305 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: like it wasn't even tow dragt swag like I hadn't 306 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: seen nobody catch a ball like that. Both just your 307 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: toes that are on the field and it was like 308 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: this lean back. So it was even I made a 309 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: bunch of crazy catches, but you know, just the moment 310 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: in the game where that was, you know, you know 311 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: how impactful it was. Obviously there's a lot of crazy 312 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: I made catches on top of folks, you know. I mean, 313 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: I take the most pride in that, you know, seeing 314 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: Randy Moss do it back in the day. I just 315 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: want to take those attributes from Randy t o just 316 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: all those guys I watched growing up just do a 317 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: little better. 318 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 5: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 319 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: back in a minute. 320 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: Now, you talk about all your attributes and all those 321 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: other things, and what attributes would you say attributed to 322 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: what you're doing now, which is what got you into 323 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: the medical cannabis industry. 324 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: Huh. Really, just my hardhead in this really just going 325 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: hard all the time. That's why in this cannabis in 326 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: That's why I needed all these bumps and bruises, you know, 327 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: but from you know all the time, you know, we 328 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: have those bumps and bruises, and just I used cannabis 329 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: while I played, and you know it was it only 330 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: really started using it when I got to the lead. 331 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: I used a little bit in college, but when I 332 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: got to the league, it really was helping me when 333 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: I get to sleep, you know, limit the pain, Like 334 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: after practice going home, you know, you know, when I 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: get home, my light one up just because like I 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: get home and I'm aching. I always had chronic swelling 337 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: in my knees and ankles, and there wasn't really anything 338 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: to you know, really help that. 339 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: You just had these ice But did you but did 340 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: you know the marijuana was helping age you or was 341 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: it just like no, I just want to get high. 342 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: It helped me with my quality of life. God it 343 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: as far as you know, being able to sleep and 344 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: not have no problem at night, you know, just numbing 345 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: the pain. Yeah, you know, But it really wasn't until 346 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: I was able to use it in a different application, 347 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: you know, from different from smoking and actually using it 348 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: in a topical form, when I was really like light bulb, 349 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: you know. Okay, let's get down to the science of this, 350 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: because there's something here. 351 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: Right, So you got out what was your last year? 352 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: Fifteen? 353 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: So your last year was fifteen? 354 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: How long would you say it took you to have 355 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: a understanding and start your own practice and go out 356 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: and speak the way you speak about it because you're 357 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: passionate about it. 358 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: I love that about you. But like, what how long did. 359 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Would you say it took you to be or to 360 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: become warre you are right now rather than just all right, 361 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like one up just for quality of life. 362 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: When I got done playing that, I mean I had 363 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: I did a couple of different things, just trying to figure 364 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: out where I wanted to be at with timing. Timing 365 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: is everything. Cannabis injury came along in Michigan. I was 366 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: passionate about it, and it's mainly yeah, I used to 367 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: while I was playing, But when I was on the 368 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars show, that's when I really that's 369 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: when the light bulb went off because I wanted to 370 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: Dance with the Stars show and. 371 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: They with you long hours too, bro, Really don't let 372 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: them trick long hours, trick long out a. 373 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Hell of an experience. If you like the movie, you 374 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: like to dance, like to be active, you know, it's experience. 375 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: To the finals. I was in third place, okay, but 376 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: you're based the finals, you get your bonus, so it 377 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: was good. But I was in the show about three 378 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: weeks and you know, you're dancing, bro, it's like footwork, 379 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: It's just like and my ankles and my knees started 380 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: to swoll up again on me. So we got to 381 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: the point where I was just like, you know, I 382 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: can't move out here like I need to. It's like 383 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: when I got done planning, I can't move. I can't 384 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: have the explosion. And I would look at my ankles 385 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: like balloons. And my buddy. I told my buddy when 386 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: to Georgia Tech with him. He's in the film industry 387 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: out there in Cali. I was like, man, I don't 388 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: have to quit the show because I like, I just 389 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: hang out with him whenever I went out there and 390 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I can't move, my ankles are swollen, 391 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: my knees are swollen. Like I can't do all that. 392 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 3: I can't do all the moves and whatnot. And he 393 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: break in. He brought me a topical I remember, the 394 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: green glass jar with a gold cap. Used it. A 395 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: couple of days later, my swelling started to go down, 396 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: and it stayed down, and I kept on using I'm like, okay, 397 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: there's something here. There's something here. And that's where I mean. 398 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: I was already passionate about Cannon because I knew it 399 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: helped me a little bit, but to really know that 400 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: there's something more to it, that's when I was like, Okay, 401 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: let's get to the science. 402 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: Of it all right, now, what is the long term 403 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: plan for your specifically? I know you're talking about expanding 404 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: into Boston and some other areas. I know you've been 405 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: down in Alabama doing work with some of the hospitals 406 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: and different people down there. Maybe share with some of 407 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: the people you know. I'm good friends of Rob Sims and. 408 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: His wife of course, Natalie. Oh yeah, yeah. 409 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to school with his wife, Natalie and 410 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: stuff like that. So I've got to know the other 411 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: side of it. And I know some of your business partners, 412 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: and I know what you guys are thinking, but I 413 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: want you to share with some of our listeners some 414 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: of the long term plans of what Calvin Johnson in 415 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 4: this group is doing. 416 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we call it, I mean, our company is 417 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 3: called Primitive. Called primitive because people have been using cannabis 418 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: for thousands of a year, so by definition it is primitive. 419 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: But we really truly believe in the healing powers of 420 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: the plant. We're here, we're advocates for the industry. We're 421 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: trying to destigmatize it, but at the same time come 422 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: up with new innovative products. And that's what that's what 423 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm excited about right now, because we're getting to that 424 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: point where we're being able to create these new innovative products. 425 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: And we talk about innovation in cannabis, you know, we're 426 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: talking about bringing like, you know, pharmaceutical grade equipment and 427 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: using it with cannabis, you know, And that's what we're 428 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: doing right now. And with that, we're able to create 429 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: the cannabis particles and such a small size using nanotechnology 430 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: that it's more efficient. You know, talent all and all 431 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: those things. It's nanotechnology. It's small particle size that's able 432 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: to bypass through your intestinal system and get into the bloodstream, 433 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: therefore making it more effective. So just creating products of 434 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: that sort, and we're just scratching the surface. You know. 435 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: Our first two products that we came out with is 436 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: a ORRS, which is an oral rehydration solution and the 437 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 3: topical cream. The reason why we came out with those 438 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: because we used them religiously when we played got to 439 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: stay hydrated. It's key, and you get the topicals that 440 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: we used. It was just cooling and heating. There was 441 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 3: really no function to it. But now we're able to 442 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: add cannabinoids to it. We're able to ad cannabinoids to it, CBD, CBG, CBC, 443 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: CBD or CBG. Adding these cannabinoids to them increases the 444 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: anti inflammation of properties that you're putting into your body. 445 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: So and those different cannabinoids have proven to be anti inflammatory. 446 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: So it's inciting man just being able to bring these 447 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: products to market that will be effective for the masses. 448 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: I know we got to go here and I want 449 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: to ask you the same question we always trying to 450 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: ask everybody before we let you off the hot seat. 451 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: I know you got to catch a flight, but who 452 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: is in your mount Rushmore of influence? Whether it's coaches, 453 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: paying family. It's only four, but I would like to 454 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: know your mount More Rushmore. 455 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rushmore of influence. I don't want to say parents. 456 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: That's two. It's giving one want entity, we let you 457 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: have one. So I got my parents. Derek Moore, he 458 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: was my chaplain at Georgia Tech. You know, it really 459 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: spoke to me spiritually, really got me in a place 460 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: where I was able to be my own believer, you know, 461 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: and not that I wasn't going into college, but to 462 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: you know, do it yourself. You know, to understand, have 463 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: an understanding for yourself is different than just when you're 464 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: coming up and you know, getting it from your family 465 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: and the church. So my parents, Derek Moore, Jefferson, my 466 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: receiver coach. You know, he was a great player, but 467 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: he's a great man. You know, not only did he 468 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: teach us how to be great players, but his biggest, 469 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: bigger focus was on being a better man. All the 470 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: skills he taught me, you know, it was you know, shoot. 471 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: You know, all the different sayings, you know, keep stacking 472 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: or you know, stay ready so you don't have to 473 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: get ready. All those things ring true and there's legitimate 474 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: meaning behind all those things. And lastly, this last one's tough. 475 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say my big sister, and Big says, it 476 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: has been such an influence in my life. Positive influence. 477 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: You know, she's the doctor. When I was growing up, 478 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: she was my tutor, you know, for her. If it 479 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 3: wasn't for her, you know, I might have went and 480 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: played Major League baseball out of high school, you know, 481 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: and not even went to college and played. So I 482 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: was able to get the college experience because she was 483 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: tutoring me at Clark Atlanta University. I got to be 484 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: around at AUC and just see what it's like to 485 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: be in college. I was like, oh, I can't forego this. 486 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: So half my big sister. I have a tremendous amount 487 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: of love for her. You know, she helps me with 488 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: my foundation. So's she's all and everything to us too. 489 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: So those are those are my top four. 490 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, Calvin, thank you, brother, I know you gotta catch 491 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: a flight. 492 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate John Man. I love it. This is great man. 493 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: Love to catch up with y'all, man do this more. So. 494 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: We just finished up interview on Calvin Johnson, and I 495 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: told you all the first half of the story about 496 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: the first time that we played him. What I forgot 497 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: to mention is the second half of that story. So 498 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: second half we go in, we're going for halftime and 499 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: coach Smith he comes to me and says, lovely Smith, 500 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Love Smith. 501 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: Yes, lovey Smith. 502 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: He comes over and then they say, hey, we're gonna 503 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: make a defensive adjustment real quick. We're gonna put you 504 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: back on Calvin. Things aren't working out too well for Zach, 505 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: So you line up on Calvin. 506 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: Line up on Calvin. Second half, do my thing. 507 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: I mean, he catches a couple passes, but for the 508 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: most part, I think I do a pretty good job of, 509 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, locking him down well. Toward the end of 510 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: the game or really like the last one of the 511 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: last plays, I'm on the left, I'm on the right side. 512 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: They put some crazy formation in. Calvin didn't get the 513 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: lineup on my side. I think he was in the 514 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: slot and he motion back across the field. Yes, we're 515 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: gonna get him away from Peanut, and he got him 516 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: away from me. It was great matchup. So he's matched 517 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: up back on Zach and then I don't know the 518 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: exact play, but I remember jamming my guy and I 519 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: looked across the field and quarterback throws it. 520 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: He catches it. I mean it was a It was 521 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: an amazing catch kind of in the back half corner 522 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: of the end zone. 523 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Yep, two feet falls down, sat there for a second, 524 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: and then he used the ball to actually get up, 525 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: to get up and stand up, and then the rough 526 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: feree was like, no catch, no catch, no catch. 527 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: Well, it's also because when he used the ball to 528 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: get up, the ball moved and it like squirted off 529 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: to the side and he got up celebrating. For those 530 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 4: that you can go back and watch this plays, this 531 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: is what brought up the whole is it a ca 532 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: catch no catch rule? I know Dez Bryant was another 533 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: big one later on versus Stream, but this was one 534 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: of the first real examples that you saw it. Calvin 535 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: Johnson clearly caught this touchdown. He caught the ball, got 536 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: up to celebrate, used the ball as. 537 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: He was getting up, and it was a no catch. 538 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen years later, I can I can honestly say, yeah, 539 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: the man Calvin called he called the football. It was 540 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: a you know, it should have been a touchdown. 541 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: At the moment. At the time, I was like, no, 542 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: we won that game. Who so tell me because that's 543 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: what I saw. I wanted. 544 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: You know, when you're on the sidelines, you see this 545 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: guy catch the ball, so your mind is it was 546 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: a touchdown. 547 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: When I first saw it, yes, live on the other 548 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: side of the field, I looked as like, oh. 549 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: Damn, mat oh damn, he called it. 550 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: He called it. 551 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Oh, no, touch he really caught that. But hey, let's 552 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: get off the field. 553 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: Look, so so go as a dB because we always 554 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: take the dB side. At what point, du You're like, man, 555 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: I mean they kind of got cheated. That was kind 556 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: of a touchdown immediately. 557 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about in the locker room. It's like, 558 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: you think that was a hell yeah, it was a catch. 559 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how they didn't know it, But I'll 560 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: take the win, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna 561 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: help us out. 562 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think everyone knew it was a catch. 563 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: He knew it was a catch. Yeah, that's just one 564 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: less touchdown he has on his stat book. But clearly 565 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: everyone knows it was a catch. Calvin torched us that 566 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: game and they should have won the game, but they didn't. 567 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, make a tron. 568 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: We got the dub, but it was a catch, bro, 569 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: It was a hell of a catch too. Thank you 570 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: guys for listening. 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