WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Built on Structure 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.959 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:11.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:22.920 Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sideline. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.240 He is hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:29.920 flavor gets its wings. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:35.159 Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.680 Shannon Gross. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:45.560 Thursday morning, ninety am, and you're looking live at Tostitos 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.240 Championship Plaza with the weird shadow across the field. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.080 Today it looks looks a little different. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.920 You look at live Totito Championship Plaza outside four seated 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.200 Star Frisco, Texas, where it is sixty degrees feels like 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:58.880 fifty eight. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.279 The high today is six three. The load of night 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.680 is fifty five. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.720 Well, Trilly be's out there, and that is Shannon. He 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.440 is Kurt, he is Kurt, he is he is Kurt. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.279 That's Chris and the back keeping this up and running. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.600 We are out a big fellow. We'll tell you why 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:20.160 a big fellow is down and down to where he'll 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:20.559 be down. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.280 I am Zaddie Holly. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.840 Together we make hanging with the bullet the sports talk 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.240 equivalent braill people. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:33.120 When we speak how you fellas doing good? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:33.720 Good man. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.800 We haven't mentals and dentals in a while our years. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.080 Mentals. Mentals are good. Yes, I got a call the 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.679 other day. I need to come in and get my cleaning. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.720 So dentals about to be even better. Uh so we 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.720 need to set that up. You know, new year starts 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.280 and all the insurance starts back over. You got to 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.040 pay the deductibles again. So I get back in there, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.880 uh and and get things right. But mentals are good. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.080 Mentals are really good. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.960 And yeah good, yeah you Kurt good. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.440 I'm going for cleaning too. I think I got a 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.960 reschedulem yeah. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:10.840 Let's go. Let's go, you know, let's go. Get okay. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:12.320 I think are okay? 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.320 You think? Well? You know, no, I don't know. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.959 Let's talk about a little session. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.679 We were in the middle of a big deadline this week. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.359 Hectic, stressed out a little bit. Tell you who else 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.120 is stressed out? How are you doing? By the way, Chris, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:28.680 I'm doing good. You're good. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:29.640 Kids back at school. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:40.079 Yes, that's funny. I just scaled as a doctor's appointment, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.120 so nice. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:46.280 When's yours? Oh yeah, physical, physical, physical on Monday. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.160 I gotta do that. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.800 I got to go back to the dentists for my 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.880 follow up to make sure everything's good. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.680 And then once I get that, then I'll. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.720 Work on the I need to make your appointment. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.399 When I'm over there, I need a doctor. I got 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:58.640 one right across the street. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.560 Do you like them? 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.359 My wife goes to him and she loves him, and 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.680 I've heard great things about him so from other people 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:06.200 than my wife. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:06.680 Let me know. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:07.600 Does he have big hand? 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.040 I was gonna say, does he have soft hand? 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:09.480 Let me know? 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.120 And then well then I'll I'll decide if I'm going. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:12.280 There or not. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.760 So let me know your follow up. When are you 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:15.720 going next week? 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:16.320 Monday? 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:16.800 You want to go? 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:17.920 Not? 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:18.200 No? 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:18.920 Weekend? 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.680 Was amazing. Imagine you walking like, yeah, I just. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:31.440 Support puppy. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.040 You know people, I gotta support guy be hilarious. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.840 Yeah, not really, just my buddy. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.520 Will let me know how it goes next week, and 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.520 I will because I do need one. I need to 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.680 find We'll see if he's in my network, which you 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.840 can walk to him. I guess you could walk over there, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.040 but yeah, all right, will fellas, it was a sad, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.440 sad day Saturday. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.360 There's only two now, there are only two left. The 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.040 old regime. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.720 Tyrant was what was one of the the o g 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.360 I guess you could say, of the last link. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.440 Of the old Yeah, he was the oldest, right. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.720 So now you got basically you have d Law and 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.040 Zach that are the only links to I guess the 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.520 Romo Witten daz Era. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:16.000 Right. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.760 So I don't like, I didn't want to see him 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.520 go after he had a good year last year, right, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.920 and he was somewhat healthy. You didn't want to see 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.480 him go, But you also didn't want to see them 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.680 pay the price that he got and went. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.520 So I'm kind of torn, which was it's okay, so 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.640 the price right, Like we hear the twenty million up 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.000 to twenty million, what is really basically like it's six 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.760 point five right, million with possive with escalators escalators, Yeah. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.640 But sounded like we have six point five million with 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:58.760 some pretty easy well bonuses that would push it up 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.280 to twelve Yeah. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.480 Playing time bonuses, you know, stuff like that. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:08.000 But personally, like, because I like Tyrann, I was a 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.960 teammate of Tyrants and he was a team I'm older, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.159 so he was a teammate of mine. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.960 I'm older. I was there first, I was actually there first. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:21.600 Yeah, but like, if you know Tyrann personally, you understand 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.040 like the loss right, he's a good dude, doesn't say 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.840 much like around media type stuff. But if you get Tyron, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.760 you know, kind of in his own world, you get 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.400 a different Tyrant. So like, I've known him for years, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.200 so you hate to see the person leave, but I'm 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.360 not upset at the player, and I know that he 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.160 he had a decent year last year. But at some 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.400 point in time, like this, this thing is gonna fully 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.240 break down, and like we can keep flirting around with 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.000 the oh four games, five games, and like eventually it's 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.880 gonna cost you more than you're willing to pay and. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.280 For and now we start to look get the overall. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.120 I text you guys something like a week or so, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.480 and god, I was like, I'm not really quite to 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.359 say it publicly just yet, but you start looking around 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.560 and you start seeing what's happening here, Like Tyrant leaving 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:22.320 is also beneficial for him because this team. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.680 You're gonna say it, You're gonna say it. You don't 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.000 think they're gonna be very good this year. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.279 This team is taking on a look of a team 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.520 that's not gonna be very competitive in the sense of 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.960 we're going to find ourselves, you know, like like there 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.360 there won't be Super Bowl talks. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.600 There won't be because. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.359 Currently you haven't in what you've done so far in 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.880 free agency. You in free agency, you haven't even done 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.400 enough to replace the guy that you've lost. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.800 Pull up Kurb real quick, pull up who's left while 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:55.320 you're talking? 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.640 Because left as who who? 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:57.960 Who? 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.560 Did not re sign of our guys? 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.440 Yeah, yeah, so let me let me finish my tire. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:02.719 Thought. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:03.039 Yeah. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.280 But for Tyron, I think it's it's you got to 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.720 take the Bill Belichick approach. And for the Cowboys, the 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.920 one there's a lot of things wrong with with with 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.520 how people view the Cowboys, but one thing I do 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.040 think that the Cowboys do wrong at times is they 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.680 hold on to their guys a little bit too long. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.320 And I don't know what's because the relationships or how 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.400 they feel or whatever it is. I think they hold 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.720 on the guys a tad bit too long. And it 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.360 takes a lot to get Tyron to Sunday. Like that's 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.720 the part I think people don't understand behind the scenes, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:41.239 like it takes a lot to get him to Sunday, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.000 and then you have to restart it again next week, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.880 and that takes a toll on everybody, the coaches, the 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.640 not only the coaches, but how they coach, the. 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:52.680 Training staff, the. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.480 Workout staff, Like it takes a lot of people because 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.880 you're not he's not practicing, the psic not practicing, and 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.559 you have to kind of do a round the clock 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:04.680 treatment to get him to. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.160 Get in and with their games where he was like 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.800 game time decision. So if you're at the backup and 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.240 you're his teammates, it's kind of like I don't know 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.480 what guy I'm playing. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.000 With and you're coaching, right, You're coaching changes because now 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.880 I got plays that I feel confident with when I 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.880 run in with Tyrann, and I don't feel so confident 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.280 when I run him with Austin Richards or TJ. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.120 Back, whoever is the backup guy that's in there. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.640 So even coaching kind of is a little bit more 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.280 strenuous because you kind of got to put together a 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.600 main plan and then a pseudo plan to that plan, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.480 because if we don't have Tyron Smith, maybe I don't 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.920 feel as comfortable call in as many seven step dropbacks, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.640 you know, deeper passing plays, because maybe we don't hold 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.880 the edge good enough, all right. And these are the 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.320 small little things that happen in the in the in 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.560 the you know, in the moments of the game. Is 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.439 how confident do I feel running to this side again? 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.800 And then if I don't feel confident, now I'm second 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.760 guessing my call because the call might have been the 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.360 best call, might have been running get to the left, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.400 but I don't have Tyrann, So maybe I might want to, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.160 I might go to the right one. I really should 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.800 have ran to the left, but my confidence is not 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.040 quite there with the guys that we have in those 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.880 particular spots of that particular time. So it took a 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.000 lot to get Tyrann to Sunday. And you know, great, 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.280 if Tyron goes to the Jets, the Jets look like 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.200 they're putting a band together to make a one year run, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.040 you know what I mean, and see if they can't 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.000 do some things. And if he goes there and he does, well, great, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.280 fantastic Tyron. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:29.920 You deserve it. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.200 Thirteen years you put into this league. Man, you've been 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.280 really good for a long time. You get a chance 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.360 to go out, you know, on top. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.040 And you get to block for the cowboy killer. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.160 I can't beat him. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.520 Join him right if he's you know, if if he's 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.120 as healthy as he is, he looks president, right, man. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.760 I just I just heard about that. I was like, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.080 are you kidding me? I was like, that's. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.000 Gonna be it just not true. Let me just say that. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.400 Maybe he does both because if you think about it. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.040 Not to toot my own horn, but my brother is 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:57.439 one of the senior advisors for. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:09:59.880 Robert Kennedy. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:05.439 It's not Oh, let's talk off there. That's really just disappointing. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 Because I was to my brother jam Holly, what was up, brother? 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.040 Because I was I was saying, you know what, because 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.960 he's probably not going to participate a lot in training 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.120 camp anyway, so he could actually, you know, campaign, and 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.960 you know, both of those guys are a little little wacky. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.559 Rob's a fan of of of Aaron. But I can 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.600 tell you from you. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.560 Know there he goes and you heard it here with 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:30.880 the boys political talk. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.600 Last time we we got it, we talked about politics, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.400 but Derek got a voicemail. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.000 I still the more I think about that, I think 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:41.600 that was a bit. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.600 I think that was There's been a couple of times 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.600 I got an email about that too, and said the 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.160 wrong thing. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.320 You did, you did, you got there? 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.200 You go, Yeah, don't we don't touch politics, you know, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:54.839 don't even talk. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.240 This is an adorsemith for Robert Kennedy. My brother just 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.560 happens to work. So this isn't this a no coming 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:01.880 to be like, oh, you know. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.120 Derek up about Yeah, this was not a political show. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.679 I do agree with you though on Tyron, though, I mean, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.480 it's probably time to move on. And the part of 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.120 the word, like you said, one, he's a good dude, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.440 I know you got to know him pretty well, but 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.319 also there's you wish there was a little bit more 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.080 of a backup playing place. Maybe Richards is the guy. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.760 But okay, so that's my point. And I love Tyron, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.920 like I hated to see him go. He was probably 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.400 my him and him and Tyrone Crawford probably my two 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.400 guys on the team, right, and they both kind of 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.360 you know, they they weren't superstar. I mean, Tyron's a superstar, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.920 but you know, offensive Lineman, they don't get that. And 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.480 he doesn't talk, you know, unless you get him in private, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.080 and then you know, like like you said, he's a 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.120 great human being and like his story is incredible and 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.559 he's just a good person. So I hope he goes 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.160 to the Jets and they do really well because he 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.960 deserves it because he was a hell of a you know, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.000 hell of a offensive lineman. Came into the league so young, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.360 Like I have pictures of him with hair, that's how 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.120 long ago he came in. When he was at training camp, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.319 I remember when he would stay out on the field 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.560 at training camp for like thirty minutes after everybody went 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.880 in working with was it Hudson Howse was that the 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.800 line coach back then, and San Antonio was his first year, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.480 and he would stay out there and he worked, and 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.000 Dwear would come out work with him. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:22.760 Yeah, we used to like kind of stop like yeah, yeah, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.839 sometimes sometimes. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.200 He would get Deware. Yeah, they like okay, okay, next period, you'd. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.120 Be like and you know what. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.560 And I think that was the first time that that 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:38.160 started the trend of because drafting offensive lineman was never sexy, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.320 and he was the first one that everybody was like, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.400 you know, it was like kind of on offensive lineman. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:45.920 Then you were like then when you saw what he's 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.719 was turning into. And then when they drafted Travis and 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.360 Zach and it was like, okay, offensive lineman, that's kind 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.400 of around here. That's a sexy pick because you saw 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.200 what it turned into. Right, So so this so Readolph, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.440 who who we've lost? 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.480 Because I don't want to know what the hell? What 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.280 what is gonna like? You said, Readolf. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:05.560 Just who who's left? 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.520 Who's left? 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:16.280 Dorn's Armstrong, Tyler Beiddish, Dante Fowler, and Noah. They all 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:23.120 went to Washington, uh Nevill Gatimore, Son with Miami, Tony 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.280 Pollard with Tennessee, Tyrone with New York and something we 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.720 should talk about maybe here in a little bit. Jonathan 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:30.560 Hankins went to. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.800 Okay, so just read them off without the teams again. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:33.160 Okay. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.680 Imagine imagine you go into a Sunday Okay, and you 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.400 go these guys are out. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:42.560 Not in the game. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:51.720 Dorns, Armstrong, Tyler, Dante Fowler, Neville Gallimore, Jonathan Hankins, Noah sorry, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.640 and Tony Pollard, Tyron Smith. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.600 I don't feel good about that game. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:58.560 Starter. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.080 The only player, the only player that was consistently not 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.560 in that one. We used to call him on our 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.200 show Aight of the Sports. We called him noahgn active. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.680 He was never active, inactive all the time. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.080 That's the only one that didn't contribute yeah, but if 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:14.280 you if you told me his. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.600 First time out he got a touchdown on the block 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.240 field goal. But after that it was. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.080 Like, but I don't like, I would not feel good 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:28.640 playing anybody. Like you can tell me you're playing Washington 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.800 last year and these are your inactives, and I would 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.120 be like, I don't feel good about going into this game. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.880 And you haven't really you haven't signed anybody to replace those. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.560 People that left. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.320 No, not yet. Now you have rees signed Jordan Lewis. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.000 I guess he was a contributor. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:43.520 CJ. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.320 A good one. You hope can come back on special 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.120 teams Dad, or maybe you're starting running back. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.800 Now that's it. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.280 You got some guys still out there. Oh you got 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:53.840 your long snapper of course, but. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.720 It's probably the most important piece. George Lewis. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:01.120 Yeah, yeah, another group remaining that's not signed. I guess 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.040 Gilmour would be the one guy that you'd be like, yeah. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.520 Well, honestly, I mean signing back Jordan Lewis. That gives 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.560 you your nickel. Now your nickel slot deron blame what 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.880 he did. Next year you you now kick him over 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.320 and you get Trayvon if he can, if he can 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.080 stop impregnating people. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.520 You get it, you get you get him back. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:24.320 That's another show. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:25.880 You get him back. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.400 So now you kind of you know, now you go 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.520 and get some depth, you know, in those spots. But like, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.600 if Gilmore is willing to come back and be a backup, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.000 then then cool. But I have my two starters of 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.040 my Nickel and those guys right there. You know, just 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.840 you're good at at safety. But yeah, man, I just 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.400 this this team is heading in a direction that doesn't 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:48.080 look like it's gonna be very competitive next year. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:52.120 That schedule and the and the and the O line. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.600 Like, I just want to know what they're gonna do 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.080 because because you're what left tackle center? 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:00.320 You have Zach? 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.200 You got Tyler? 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.120 Right, Tyler, I think is the only well Zach's sure thing, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.040 but he's you. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.960 Know, your time. He missed a couple of games this 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:09.360 year with it. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.000 You know, Tyler's probably the only one of that five you're. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.880 Like, and and he's got a little bit of a 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.680 holding problem. So do you put him out to tackle 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.280 where he's working in even more space or do you 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:20.040 keep him at guard? 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.440 So here's my thing about that. But my thing is. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:29.560 When you start talking about quarterback play, right, you can. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:37.960 It's very difficult to help guards. I can help a tackle. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.840 I can roll away from him. I can put a 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.560 tight end next to him. I can have a back 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:43.240 chipping there. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:43.840 You know what I mean? 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:50.880 My personnel. But if I'm soft in the middle, right 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.720 like if I'm if I'm if I'm a little bit 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.240 dowe in the middle, where now, because I've kicked Tyler 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.360 outside and now I don't know what I have at center, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.120 my left guard can be iffy. Well, now if the 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:08.280 if the if I have consistent penetration in that a 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.560 gap to my left side. From a quarterback perspective, that's 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.040 that's more worries Someme than me than me having pressure 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.880 from the outside. Because I have nowhere to step up. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.840 I can't drive the ball down the field. I can't 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.760 deliver the ball in the spaces that I want to 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.480 deliver it because the pressure is coming right towards me, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.840 right in my grill. So to me, this is innate. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.679 I'm going to stand on business when they come to this. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.080 Tyler's not moving, he's not going outside because it's it's 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.399 very difficult to shore up the center of your offensive line, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.000 and again your quarterback while he's he's a decent athlete. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.640 I'm not saying Dak is like that's not Josh Allen 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:52.000 as far as athletic Athletically, Dak is best when he's 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.400 able to have a clean pocket in front of him, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.840 when he's able when Dak's able to step up in 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.040 the pocket and drive the ball down the field. He's 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.000 one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league. Where 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.720 he gets a little bit off at times when that 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.600 pressure is in in his grill and he has to 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.320 kind of, you know, work around things and he's trying 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.480 to like jump throw and he you know, the ball 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.560 is getting tips and he's and he can't he can't 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.199 clearly read what's in front of him right like he 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.520 does well if he rolls out right or left. But 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.359 when he gets a chance to stand in that pocket 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.120 and he pat that thing and he's able to see 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.840 what's happening in there, he's a really, really good quarterback. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.000 He's one of the best in the league. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.639 So you gotta want to secure that first and saying 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.920 we can always do things until we find the main 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.720 stay there that if we have to help tight end 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.399 hell I mean hell Luke Luke Luke School meger go block, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.640 go block, go go be go go be left tacklesh 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.199 you know what I'm saying. Backs chipped that way, we 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.639 semi roll the opposite way, quick plasters. There's things that can. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.720 Be i'd when Tyler to stay put even if be 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.119 honest was back. Now you're throwing a new center in 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:57.760 there as well. 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.639 I mean that's so let's let's when we come back, 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.040 let's talk about are you going to give your quarterback? 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:07.600 What is it? 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.600 What is it estimated at how much a year? Sixty 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:15.040 sixty a year with an offensive line that is gonna 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.920 have probably three new people starting, like, like, let's talk 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.240 about that, Like is. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:22.760 That where the road we're going down? 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.919 Are you going to invest that much money in someone 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.640 that could be running for their life all season? 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.280 Or are we not. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.800 Renewing that thing? What do you want to get y'all 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.600 thoughts when we come back and other things. 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Leighton vander esh announced over the 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.280 weekend that he was retiring, which I think we all 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.200 kind of had a heads up that that was coming 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:33.520 in smart move, right decision, probably with his neck issues. 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.840 That's something you you know, you don't mess around with 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.440 a back, a in a neck, you know, especially your 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.760 your neck. So what do you have not was six years, 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.160 six years with the team, so drafted by the Cowboys, 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.160 he was a lifelong Cowboy fan and three of. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.400 Those sixy had neck injuries. 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.520 Mmmmm he had twenty sixteen, twenty nine, October twenty sixteen, 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.200 November twenty nineteen, and then this passed to one again. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:22:59.520 I wish he could have stayed healthy. 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:05.160 Had another was a pro bowler, Yeah, what might have been? 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:05.560 I guess. 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:05.840 Yeah. 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.879 That's the thing about I love football, I do, and 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:14.680 we were talking about some stuff before before the show. 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:16.000 But this is a one business. 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.760 It's it's it's not if it's when the great thing 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:27.760 that you wish is that you're your hurt doesn't take 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.520 you so far away from a quality of life that 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.160 there's no return. And the thing that people, I think 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:40.159 sometimes from the outside don't understand is that this is 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:44.760 a game that doesn't love you back. It doesn't and 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:51.439 you at times this you give this game more than 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.960 you can afford to give, and it costs people. Now, 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.399 you make a great fortune, and you make great celebrity, 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.600 and it's a great time. But in the grand scheme 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:07.119 of it, like Leyton vandersh as how I feel, however 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:12.000 you feel about him? Right, six years, that's a finite 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.120 amount of time when you think about the grand scheme 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.440 of I'm supposed to be here for seventy five eighty 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.399 plus and six years of my life I gave to 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.879 this game that may ultimately impact me in a way 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.080 down the line that my quality of life could be affected. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:29.920 Right. 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.159 And if you ask Layton, and he even said it 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.160 when he when he think, he said, my body wouldn't cooperate, 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.360 you know. And and if you ask him again, hey, 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.320 would you do it all again? He's again one hundred 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:46.399 percent of you'll say it again. But sometimes sometimes you 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.400 have to give to this game more than you you're 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.240 willing to give, and more than you even have to give. 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.640 And that is the long you know, our brother, right, 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:02.520 he's out double replacement gave a lot to the game. 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.400 You see how Nate walks up and down this hallway. 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:06.840 Gave a lot to this game. 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.320 Jesse's gonna get arrested for hip A violations. 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.720 Well, he tweeted it, That's why he tweeted. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.440 Yeah, he must be drugs. 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.000 Pictures and everything. The breakfast is good up there. 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.960 Did you ever have a stinger or anything like that? 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:22.760 Yeah? 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:23.320 You do. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.719 You know of any player that you played with at 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.399 a professional level that did not have some kind of 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.840 off season surgery at some point something just to clean up. 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.440 Or Nope, he had to go under. 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.879 Nope, And most most people have them after every season. 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.400 You not wanting not one. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:40.960 You just don't hear about it, right, not one. 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.879 I were just talking about it before. There's mornings I 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.520 get up and I cannot twist the cap off the 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:52.119 toothpaste because of my hands. I've broken every finger. I've broken. 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:53.880 My hand. 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.639 I broken my hand. Every finger on my hand a wrists. 0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.320 And there are times when I get up in the 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.920 morning and if you handed me this water bottle, I 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.360 would struggle taking the top off this water bottle. There's 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.080 times I get up in the morning I have to 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.960 sit on the side of the bed because my ankles 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.480 are so stiff and jacked up that if I get up, 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.600 I can't take that. My ankle won't bend enough to 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.760 take the step without falling. So I got to like 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:19.280 sit there for a little while and kind of like 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.439 work them and get them to loosen up in the joints. 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:28.000 There's things that what I do it again? Sure sign 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.040 me up all over again. But that's the game. That 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.600 is the game, and it sucks. It sucks, and for 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.280 most of us, for most of us. For every Aaron 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.000 Donald after ten years gets to walk away on his 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:46.360 own accord, most of us, ninety percent of us. 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.480 Are pushed out, yeah, or pushed out. 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.920 You're old, you're beat up, your body doesn't respond, you're 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:53.800 not atheltic anymore. 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.159 Most of us gets told you're done. 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.159 And that's a hard thing to cope with when you 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.760 have to get up one day, and for Layton's situation, 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.600 you have to get up one day and make the 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.840 toughest decision, one of the toughest decisions you've ever had 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.720 to make, because all guys like Layton have known is 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:13.160 the game. 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:14.720 And you have to say. 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.000 I'm done, guys, yeah, And there's no more training camp, 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.439 no more OTAs, no more structure in your life, and 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.160 you go, I'm twenty eight years old. 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.880 What am I gonna do? I don't know anything else 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:28.880 since I was this tall, I've had. 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.879 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We talked about mentals 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.399 and dentals. This is the mental part of it. I 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:39.479 don't know what to do, right? What do I do? 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.800 And everybody doesn't have the gift to stand behind a 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:43.600 Michael get in front of TV and stuff like that. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.480 Everybody didn't have that gift. Everybody don't want to do 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:50.080 that right. But that's the question. You could say, well, 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.440 he has a bunch of money, but you do not understand. 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.479 But a person's like, even to this day, I'm forty 0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:01.280 years old, I need structure. Part of my mental health 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:05.600 being in a good place. Structure I need to I 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.320 need to know that I have to be somewhere like 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.439 this is kind of veering off, but this is the 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.399 mental part of the game. Part of the reason why 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:19.760 I have dedicated myself again to working out stuff like that. Mentally, 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.879 I am in a better space when I know I 0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.080 have to be somewhere. Someone's waiting on me, like there's 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.040 a there's a there's an attachment there because that's what 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.840 I've always done. I've always done. Hey, I know my 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.600 work out there, the trainers waiting for me, the coach 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:34.440 is waiting for me. 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:35.600 You know what I mean. 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.360 And so when when when I have too much freedom 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.120 is when I'm at my worst. Too much freedom allows 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.040 my mind to go places that it shouldn't go. Because 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.080 my whole life has been built on structure. So I 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.200 have to make sure that I kind of keep things 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.120 in a structured ful because it gives me, It keeps 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.640 my anxiety down, it keeps so guds when they leave 0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.400 the game so abruptly, like it wasn't like there wasn't 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:00.920 a plant. 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.840 Layton didn't Layton didn't have a plan. There was no 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.840 exit plan for him. 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:09.560 It's it's ball to the wheels fall off, right, and 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.040 then the wheel fell off. There's no spare, there's no 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:17.800 there's no triple A. You're done. And so the now 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:18.960 what good thing. 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.240 About him though, is he has you know, he's got 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.520 interest outside of football. You know, he's got the hunting thing, 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.880 he's got his dad's a guide and all that stuff. 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.800 There's some guys that got nothing right. The only only 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.000 friends you have in family are in that locker room. 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.640 And when you can't come back in the building anymore, 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.680 and you wake up one day and they're all the 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.840 training camp, and you're like, that's got to be like 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:42.360 a loan. 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.520 That's the next phase, right, because now you got to 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.160 because even even having stuff doing that again, the structure 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.960 is I'm supposed to be there. Boy, I wish I 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.680 was there. I missed the smell of the grass. I 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.000 missed the smell of of of. 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:56.600 The locker room. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:01.120 It's foul of a stitch at times, it's still it's 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.320 still a place of familiar. 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:04.520 To a safe place. 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.440 It's my it's my safehavior. Yeah, those guys get me, 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.640 I get them protected. We're insulated in this thing. 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.920 You talk to the trainers, you talk to the equipment guys. 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.240 Those are your family. That's your that's your brothers and 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:16.360 your cousin literally. 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.480 Uncles, and so it sucks. 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.200 It sucks, but that's the reality of this game. That's 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.480 the reality of this game. You can't you can't do 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:24.040 it forever. 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.320 And speaking of reality of the game and not being 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.320 able to do it forever, we have a special guest 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.760 on the phone right now, a call in guest, and 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.000 we don't know what we're getting, folks, because he's been 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.720 tweeting some wild stuff and we know he's getting fed. 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:38.320 Good. 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.440 Welcome to the show, our fourth member that's not here today, 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:43.440 mister Nate Newton. 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:44.240 How you doing, Nate? 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.200 Oh man, I'm doing good. And I had a rough 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.040 rough night. Uh numb And it's a part of the 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.040 ad that they give me that and I'm sure and 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.520 for like two or three days to get this all 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.200 falseness of security and like get war off on me 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.640 last night, but it hit me like a ton of 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:08.600 bricks and uh so it's been it's been a rough night, man. 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.000 But I agree with what Jess was saying, you know 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.800 about you know, just the second stage of your life. 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.120 You know, I've made a little film, you know, to 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.760 show people that that second stage of life can be ugly. 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:28.800 Especially you got to get to me replacements, help replacement, 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:35.120 Uh the sacrifice we make for that money. If guys 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.360 could just look into the future, some I don't think 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.520 some guys would do that. You know, I'm playing the 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.920 I'm man in pain. But but that drive that always 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.680 drove me, driving me now to get up we have 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.200 and stuff like that. But just be looking for you 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.960 us some good stuff. Russell has some good stuff. You 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.320 laid down man and shining Kirk good Off voice. Man, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.479 it just it makes me want to get on up 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:01.080 and do what I got. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:01.800 To do for the day. 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:02.040 You know. 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.200 Yeah, So question for you, why did you do them 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:07.400 both at the same time? 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.400 Okay? Everybody that did one need told me, hey, man, 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.960 if I I just wish I had bed both needs 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.200 because now I ain't going back to do the second. 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:18.280 Me. 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.800 Most people that did both needs, it was hell. But 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.640 I'm glad I did both needs, you know, because I 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.360 wouln't want to go through this twife and man, and 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.520 now doctors are getting the way they don't want to 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.320 do double knees. Doctor Peterson, I was talking a lot 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.120 of the cowboys' needs and stuff. 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:41.280 Uh. 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.520 He's one of the few doctors left around her to 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:44.480 do double knees. 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:45.600 Uh. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.400 So I just needed to do it. 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:48.640 Man. 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.840 About six months ago, I was in my yard and 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.200 I was working hard and having fun, and all of 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.120 a sudden, my knees locked up, and I said, this 0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.720 is it. You know that day where you know you 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.640 go say, hey, this is it. And so I call 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.840 Gym and Brett and all of those guys about the 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.120 Cooper and they just and me. Now now four or 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.800 five months later, I'm sitting in this room man, listening 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.640 to y'all guys, do your deal. But I got to 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.160 get up and go and get the rehabber. That's what 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:19.920 it's all about. 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.360 Now, how long are you going to be out? How 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.600 long before you back on the show? 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.720 Uh? That job? I think in a couple of weeks, man, 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.360 I think a couple a couple of three weeks. Like 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:37.200 I say, I'm probably have to have a walker, you know, 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.560 if I can get the swings, have to be a walker. 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.680 But if I do it the right way, probably be 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.240 about a month. I Sh'll be able to walk on 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:45.880 my own in about a month. 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:46.800 Yeah. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.920 So back to to Jesse's question, you've had what how 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.080 many surgeries is this now that you've had? 0:33:53.120 --> 0:34:00.719 Told me I had the right shoulder, right elbow, both knees. Uh, 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.800 I've had round about seven to eight surgeries, you know, 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.080 not counting this from here because you always do that 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.399 touch up. Well, just to tell you you're always doing 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.200 clean up work. You know where your chips up. They 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.600 go in there and cut you up, clean up, so 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.600 you don't you know, I'm counting those little nick knack 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.640 things like that too. But I don't only have like 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.239 three or four, but you would call major deals and 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.480 you know, another team and just uh you can speak 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.480 on this right here is well we have like now 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.360 I'm a normal human, they gonna give me all the 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:42.960 time I need to recover. But in football, these a 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.840 lot of these surgeries that take guys six seven weeks. 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.359 We be getting back in two and three weeks, you know. 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.600 So now that I'm a normal human, it'll take me 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.200 six eight weeks to get back strong. But just to 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.319 tell you, you know, not the double knee replace, but 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.359 they'll tell you most surgeries, you know that we have 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.600 knees and all of that, we'll be back like still 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:15.120 back Gallup, galliwa Gallimore back, you know, just I mean 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.480 galliw what's Michael Gallups? Michael Gallups? I guess now see 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.080 you're still wearing off of Michael Gallupy see how quick 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.439 those guys that back Normally normal people don't get back 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:31.040 that quick, not not not running and jumping and catching 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.560 and get beat up on. So the fellas, I'm fading 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:40.600 and then y'all be good, all right? Brother, Hey, hey, hey, 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:44.880 j yeah, yes, sir, be nice to Charles next week, Charles. 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:52.600 Hey, tell the boys off the air. But I'll do 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:53.440 my best. 0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:54.960 All right, thank y'all. 0:35:54.960 --> 0:36:01.799 Man, y'all get you get your feeling better, Nate. So 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.840 we're going to go to our last break before we do. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.759 Here's how random Ned is like. He will share all 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.680 of our business, everything we say in private on the show, 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.239 and then he'll tell us a lot off off off Mike, 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:16.600 off camera, off the show. 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:18.279 He'll share things. 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.680 Which, by the way, we do keep confidential, like a 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.160 lot of that makes send to us. 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.440 We actually keep it to ourselves. 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.200 Him not so well, not so much. 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.520 So don't don't enter the group chat unless you're unless 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:30.359 you're willing for it. 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.000 To go public. 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.799 But then he will do something like this that's like 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.479 a life monumental moment in his life, and we find 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.840 out about it when everybody else does when it winds 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.000 up on Facebook. Like we had no idea he was 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:45.240 having double knee replacement. 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.720 Never mentioned it, never talked about it, no, nothing, not once. 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.120 So that's how random our co host is over here. 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.480 So and we love him. 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:55.440 We love him. 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.720 We find out when he's in Mexico, when he's. 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:02.359 In Nate leaves the show at ten o'clock. We get 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.200 a text at four thirty, I'm in bringing to Florida. 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:06.680 Wait what? 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:08.720 Wow? 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:10.359 We thought he left? 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:11.239 He left? 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:17.120 All right? 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.600 All right to take our last break. When we come back, 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.359 I don't know what. Maybe we'll talk about Dak. 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I think he's the one guy 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.200 that we were like, this is the dude we probably 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:02.879 need to hang on. 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.799 To the one. 0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.480 Yeah, it's and he's the past the first couple of 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.680 days of the big contracts. You're obviously need that position. 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.759 He said he wanted to be here, and he's the 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.279 one guy that, even though it wasn't great at times, 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.040 he's the one guy that could actually somewhat slow the 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:24.799 run game down. 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.799 Now you got a huge. 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:33.480 Deficiency there, and then you know you've got Dak's contract looming. Jesse, 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:37.839 what are your thoughts on your your your offensive line 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:38.680 is disappearing? 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.080 Are you gonna you you're the GM? 0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.160 Are you giving Dak sixty million dollars to play behind 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:44.640 that line? 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.640 Or are you thinking maybe this thing doesn't get done. 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.640 No, you don't have a quarterback. You lose a lot 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.480 business wise. Yeah right, you don't. You don't have a 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.960 quarterback that's star, that star. Yeah right, So like that 0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:02.959 that that keeps you, that keeps you relevant enough, right. 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.640 It gives you a chance, It gives you a chance. 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.279 But then now the pressure mounts because now you're going 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:09.400 to say a four. 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:11.160 Sixty. 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.839 Yeah, you gotta be like those other guys. You gotta 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.239 you gotta be you know. 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.560 You gotta get in that top five conversation, right yeah, yeah, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.279 Because now, according to his brother, he's already there. 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.880 According to ye Cord, let me stop, let meant me. 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:32.279 I have enough family drama. Sorry, I'm sorry, I have enough. 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.759 I got enough family drama to deal with already in 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.000 my life. I need to add, that's not your it's 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.680 not my family. That's not a Holly family. That's already 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.320 I'm already dealing. I'm already dealing with the immediate family 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:44.120 members already. 0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.319 But the longer this goes on, I mean, if they 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.200 don't extend him, he's gone. He's gone, right, I mean 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.200 then they're in a rebuilding. Yeah, if they're I mean they're. 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:55.360 So are they? 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:55.480 So? 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:59.520 Are they not re signing these these players because they're 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.479 trying to get the money to pay him or like. 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.319 No, you know salary cap hell or do you not? 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:06.880 You just don't think they're. 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.200 But making the deals. 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.640 Get them out of the salary cap hell, right, giving 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.160 them the giving Dak the deal, and then okay, so 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.000 the other day he got a five million dollar bonus 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.680 or roster bonus, which they turned into a signing bonus, right, 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.960 which alleviated some more cap really for them, gave them 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.480 an extra four million dollars. But they added two voighty 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.600 years into his current contract. You know, we're all talking 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.239 about the forty years they don't have anything on them. 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.279 But this year that you can add there, which kind 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.359 of opens up the door to say, okay, maybe we. 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.400 Can work through some things. 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:45.600 Here is the here is the football, the twenty fourth, 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.960 twenty twenty four brand of football. 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.600 It's the credit card method, right, A lot. 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.719 Of these teams have just begun to do this thing 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.160 where they add these voity years. It's the new way 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.879 of how I beat the cap is I keep adding 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.720 these voity years to the contract that really have nothing 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.680 on them. They're no money on them. They're just added 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.719 years to the contract, and I kick this money down 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.440 the line. So, for example, they added the two years 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.080 at the end the Dak Prescott's contract, so we know 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.799 what the cap hit is already, right, and so even 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:17.920 if you go into next year, what you've now given 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.120 yourself is you've given yourself a window to kick that 0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.480 money down a little bit more so, to take that 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.239 big money that they will owe him. They'll now take 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.160 that with the two voided years that has no money 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:29.799 on it and go. 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.160 Okay, well we'll just go boom boo boo boo boom. 0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.040 And break that sixty up over the next couple of years. 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.719 It's the credit card bill. You can you can pay 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.080 the minimum if you want. That's fine, and you'll still 0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:42.120 have an active credit card. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:42.920 Chase it forever. 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.600 You're just gonna keep chasing it, and you're eventually going 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.880 to it's it's eventually going to have to be paid 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.600 and that's just the nature of the beasts. And so 0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.239 but I think now with dak Is, as you get 0:43:55.280 --> 0:44:01.120 closer and closer to the season from a longevity standpoint, 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:05.200 and you know, players and agencies, they'll get a little 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.440 bit pissed off that they're saying, hey, we want to 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.200 get a deal done. You know that you got to 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.399 get a deal done. And we kind of really got 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.120 you by the kahunas because you can't trade us and 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:15.399 you can't franchise us. 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.000 So if you're willing. 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:20.200 To take this big cat pit this year again, that 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.560 money will just take and they'll just go, well, it 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.160 won't be as big because we'll just move it a 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.080 lot on line and we'll be able to move through that. 0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.520 But what's gonna happen is now we're we're gonna just walk. 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.279 We're gonna We're gonna just play this year out and 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.759 then next year I'll enter free agency and I'll go. 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.720 And so now you're playing this, you're playing the Colvins, 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.680 are playing this gamble game again, and now you have 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.000 you also have to look at if I don't have 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:51.760 a quarterback, I think CD deals get done. But now 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:56.200 Micah is looming, and if Micah and his agency looks up, 0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.960 because I believe who's Micah is? Micah is Michael David Maloga. 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.880 I don't know his agent. 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.040 And Mike is seems like the kind of guy that's like, 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.120 I want to go win. 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.080 I want to go win some money. Yeah, he does both. 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.080 But if he looks up and he goes, well if 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.799 if if I don't really have if the quarterback's going 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.120 and we're in a rebuilding, then maybe I can go 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.719 chase somewhere else. 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.160 He's gonna get the money. 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.240 But maybe it's like you know what, Washington, somebody's willing 0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:31.600 to Yeah, yeah, and he is. I tell you one 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:38.919 thing about David Malogea, he ain't playing around. He ain't 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:44.520 playing around this dude. He gets his clients paid. He 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.920 got the Desaun Watson deal done. Like you look at 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.960 all his clients. He gets his clients like it used 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.959 to be Drew Rosenhouse used to be the man. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.399 No, David, this joker. He don't care about none of. 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.640 That whole hometown discount. 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.680 He ain't given no discount now, he ain't getting no 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.200 He going straight to the bank and you better bring 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.120 your check book. He ain't get ain't gonna be no 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.840 hometown discount with this dude. He's getting folks rich. He 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.440 is the top He's the top dog right now and 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.480 right now he has one of the top dog clients. 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:19.600 You think he's coming off that. 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:22.120 Because he gets paid off. 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.319 With coming off that, he'll tell you don't want him 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:29.839 to be here, No problem, there's thirty, no problem one 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:30.960 other teams that will take it. 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:31.840 We'll go elsewhere. 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:36.000 And he is right now. He is the he is 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:40.480 what uh who is the quarterback agent back in the day. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.719 He's still an agent now, but he'sberg. Yeah, he is 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:44.400 that joker. 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:45.880 He is a Jerry maguire. 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.640 He is this David mullagatta dude. 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:52.520 This is the new top dog, pit bull vicious agent 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.280 in the National Football League. 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.120 His clients get wealthy. 0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.440 Not rich, I would say him and Todd France. 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.319 Okay, he's Dax's agent, but he has all the top 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:06.799 quo every quarterback he has. 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:12.680 Yeah, but this dude, David Moore was saying that there's 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.040 much trouble. They're in the salary cap this year. It 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:16.479 could be even worse next year. 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:18.959 Well, Dak's cap head next year. 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:24.640 Uh per spot track is spow track is forty. 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:27.279 Million, right, and that's and that's he's not on the team, 0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:28.200 and that's. 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.359 The money that they'll put into those forty years if 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:31.600 it not if it not gets done. 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.040 But if you just put it down the way, if 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.319 you resign him, you can do whatever. You don't get that, 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.440 you don't get that hit, right, you change. 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.560 You change that number that goes back into the pot, right, 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:40.359 you know what I'm saying. 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:41.960 Yeah, and then and then you could just push it out. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:45.080 But if he's not here, you don't resign him, then 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:48.560 that's then you get Every team does this. So because 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.520 I was just looking, I was just looking at Jalen 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.839 Hurts because obviously Jalen just signed this huge deal. 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.000 He could pay like thirteen million dollars this year. 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.040 His base sellar is a million, yeah, one point one right, 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.480 So if you go his last year, the contract. 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.640 Is twenty twenty eight. 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.319 But if you if you look at the Eagles cap 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.560 hit for Jalen Hurts in twenty twenty nine, ninety seven 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:11.719 million dollars. 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.640 Style, it's like a balloon payment at the end. 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.000 Yeah, they'll get there and they'll go, hey, you want 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:18.120 an extension. 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.400 So you get the extension and they'll adjust that. 0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.920 Yeah, and it says cap hit ninety file and. 0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.040 Then every year the cap goes up, so you're kind 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.480 of banking on that because of the revenue. And now 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.080 there's new streaming services that are paying more money. So 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.200 every year the TV deals go up and you make. 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.239 More and and I don't think it's going to go 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:36.600 up thirty million every year though. 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:37.480 No, just letting you. 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.880 Know, Oh, it's going to be interesting. 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.480 What an interesting off season we've had so far. And 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.280 we're not even we're not even to the draft. 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.520 They've putten so much. 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.239 They're putting so much pressure on willmaclan, that and that, 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:49.920 and that'sc this draft. 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:51.000 You gotta hit this. 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.000 You cannot have another draft. If you have another draft 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:55.280 like you did last year. 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:56.400 You're done. 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.440 Now can you even fill all these needs? 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.680 You can't just in this one draft. You know you can't. 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:01.360 There's no way. 0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.440 Because you figure what half your draft picks, if you're lucky, 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:10.080 contribute the first year half and usually those are backups 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.480 or spot play guys. 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.840 Usually you have what two guys that, if you're. 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.000 Lucky, that start your first your first two. 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.319 First two guys, and then sometimes you get a third 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.120 rounder that's like, oh that we hit on one. Sometimes 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:23.920 you hit a fifth rounder that's like, oh yeah, he 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.759 can be your four string guy on you know, receiver. 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.000 You can be a major contributor. 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.240 But you're asking like you're asking for impact right now. 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.720 Starters and two of them are on your offensive line. 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.640 Starters. Yeah, I need I gotta linebacker. 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.440 I gotta find starters. Yeah, I can't find role players. 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.960 I have to go like normally coming into the off season, 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:47.560 heading into like the draft OTAs well and even training camp. 0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:52.279 You know, hey, I know forty forty ish guys. We know, 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.240 are you usually have forty forty guys of your roster. 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.680 We already know who's going to be here, Like the 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.120 Cowboys are probably like some right around somewhere like thirty 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.719 two thirty guys like we know are going to be here, 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.040 and we're gonna we're gonna guestimate these other guys. 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:07.160 You know what. 0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.759 The good thing about that is we get to cover 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:11.759 it all, We get to talk about it for the 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:13.120 next four months. 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.000 We will not run out of things to talk about 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:16.120 because of that star. 0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.920 David Mullogutta, if you want to, if you want to represent. 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.960 Well, fellas hate that Nate wasn't here, but It was 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.080 good to hang out with y'all for an hour so much. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.080 I mean, we could have done for another hour, but unfortunately, Yeah, 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:30.080 I have another. 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.640 Obligation real job in seven minutes. Yeah, Chris, thanks for 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.759 keeping us on the air. Good seeing you fellas. We'll 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:37.719 see you next week. Jazz, I don't even know it's 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:41.080 Jazz back there. She is not. Oh well, thanks for 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.160 not keeping Chris company. What's my man's name? That gosh? 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.160 Thanks for getting us up on all the socials and 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:47.960 all the This is on demand by the. 0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.400 Way, because we have a Wi Fi issues in the area. 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:51.000 My home. 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:55.279 Billion dollars, baby, my home. You still can't fight against technoledge. 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.960 Can't billion dollar cock tell you what? It's a billion dollars? 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:01.719 I was working from home. 0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.160 I usually worked from a coffee shop, and I worked 0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.680 from home yesterday because I had to stay home with 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:10.759 with Gray. And for four hours I didn't have I 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.240 couldn't call anybody. No one could call me. I couldn't 0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:16.000 send or received text messages. So like, I had work 0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.520 calls that I couldn't even tell anybody I'm not going 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:18.759 to be. 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:19.319 On this call. 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.120 Yeah, Like, I just disappeared for four hours and it's 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:27.880 like that's you're so attached to technology. Part of me 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:29.520 was like, this is kind of cool, like I could 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.839 just lay around and not do anything. But then part 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:33.759 of me was, you know, every five minutes, I'm checking 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:35.040 to see if the signals back up. 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:35.920 It was terrible. 0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.480 So yeah, all right, Fellas, this was fun. We'll do 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.359 it again next week. Maybe we'll get to the rest 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:42.880 of your list next week, Kurt. 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:52.200 Sure, keep banging them out, Kurt, all right, next time, 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.200 same next week, same time, same place. 0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.200 Maybe we'll get another call in from Nate. Nate next week, 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:03.839 we're we're finalizing the details. Possibly, Yeah, we may have 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.560 a Nate referred to might be in it might be, 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:07.439 and we'll see. 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.720 We'll try to give if you remembers. 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.800 Yeah, tune in to see if we have a special 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.520 guest and a royal rumble and a royal rumble and shoes. 0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.520 We might not wear shoes. Next on Hanging with the Boys. 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:18.200 See you next week. 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.160 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.240 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.