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Speaker 5: When we speak how you fellas doing good?
Speaker 7: Good man.
Speaker 5: We haven't mentals and dentals in a while our years.
Speaker 6: Mentals. Mentals are good. Yes, I got a call the
Speaker 6: other day. I need to come in and get my cleaning.
Speaker 6: So dentals about to be even better. Uh so we
Speaker 6: need to set that up. You know, new year starts
Speaker 6: and all the insurance starts back over. You got to
Speaker 6: pay the deductibles again. So I get back in there,
Speaker 6: uh and and get things right. But mentals are good.
Speaker 6: Mentals are really good.
Speaker 5: And yeah good, yeah you Kurt good.
Speaker 8: I'm going for cleaning too. I think I got a
Speaker 8: reschedulem yeah.
Speaker 7: Let's go. Let's go, you know, let's go. Get okay.
Speaker 8: I think are okay?
Speaker 7: You think? Well? You know, no, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about a little session.
Speaker 8: We were in the middle of a big deadline this week.
Speaker 5: Hectic, stressed out a little bit. Tell you who else
Speaker 5: is stressed out? How are you doing? By the way, Chris,
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. You're good.
Speaker 7: Kids back at school.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's funny. I just scaled as a doctor's appointment,
Speaker 9: so nice.
Speaker 7: When's yours? Oh yeah, physical, physical, physical on Monday.
Speaker 5: I gotta do that.
Speaker 4: I got to go back to the dentists for my
Speaker 4: follow up to make sure everything's good.
Speaker 5: And then once I get that, then I'll.
Speaker 7: Work on the I need to make your appointment.
Speaker 5: When I'm over there, I need a doctor. I got
Speaker 5: one right across the street.
Speaker 7: Do you like them?
Speaker 10: My wife goes to him and she loves him, and
Speaker 10: I've heard great things about him so from other people
Speaker 10: than my wife.
Speaker 5: Let me know.
Speaker 7: Does he have big hand?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, does he have soft hand?
Speaker 2: Let me know?
Speaker 4: And then well then I'll I'll decide if I'm going.
Speaker 2: There or not.
Speaker 5: So let me know your follow up. When are you
Speaker 5: going next week?
Speaker 7: Monday?
Speaker 5: You want to go?
Speaker 11: Not?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: Weekend?
Speaker 7: Was amazing. Imagine you walking like, yeah, I just.
Speaker 5: Support puppy.
Speaker 12: You know people, I gotta support guy be hilarious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not really, just my buddy.
Speaker 4: Will let me know how it goes next week, and
Speaker 4: I will because I do need one. I need to
Speaker 4: find We'll see if he's in my network, which you
Speaker 4: can walk to him. I guess you could walk over there,
Speaker 4: but yeah, all right, will fellas, it was a sad,
Speaker 4: sad day Saturday.
Speaker 5: There's only two now, there are only two left. The
Speaker 5: old regime.
Speaker 4: Tyrant was what was one of the the o g
Speaker 4: I guess you could say, of the last link.
Speaker 8: Of the old Yeah, he was the oldest, right.
Speaker 4: So now you got basically you have d Law and
Speaker 4: Zach that are the only links to I guess the
Speaker 4: Romo Witten daz Era.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: So I don't like, I didn't want to see him
Speaker 4: go after he had a good year last year, right,
Speaker 4: and he was somewhat healthy. You didn't want to see
Speaker 4: him go, But you also didn't want to see them
Speaker 4: pay the price that he got and went.
Speaker 6: So I'm kind of torn, which was it's okay, so
Speaker 6: the price right, Like we hear the twenty million up
Speaker 6: to twenty million, what is really basically like it's six
Speaker 6: point five right, million with possive with escalators escalators, Yeah.
Speaker 8: But sounded like we have six point five million with
Speaker 8: some pretty easy well bonuses that would push it up
Speaker 8: to twelve Yeah.
Speaker 7: Playing time bonuses, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But personally, like, because I like Tyrann, I was a
Speaker 6: teammate of Tyrants and he was a team I'm older,
Speaker 6: so he was a teammate of mine.
Speaker 7: I'm older. I was there first, I was actually there first.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like, if you know Tyrann personally, you understand
Speaker 6: like the loss right, he's a good dude, doesn't say
Speaker 6: much like around media type stuff. But if you get Tyron,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of in his own world, you get
Speaker 6: a different Tyrant. So like, I've known him for years,
Speaker 6: so you hate to see the person leave, but I'm
Speaker 6: not upset at the player, and I know that he
Speaker 6: he had a decent year last year. But at some
Speaker 6: point in time, like this, this thing is gonna fully
Speaker 6: break down, and like we can keep flirting around with
Speaker 6: the oh four games, five games, and like eventually it's
Speaker 6: gonna cost you more than you're willing to pay and.
Speaker 7: For and now we start to look get the overall.
Speaker 6: I text you guys something like a week or so,
Speaker 6: and god, I was like, I'm not really quite to
Speaker 6: say it publicly just yet, but you start looking around
Speaker 6: and you start seeing what's happening here, Like Tyrant leaving
Speaker 6: is also beneficial for him because this team.
Speaker 5: You're gonna say it, You're gonna say it. You don't
Speaker 5: think they're gonna be very good this year.
Speaker 6: This team is taking on a look of a team
Speaker 6: that's not gonna be very competitive in the sense of
Speaker 6: we're going to find ourselves, you know, like like there
Speaker 6: there won't be Super Bowl talks.
Speaker 7: There won't be because.
Speaker 6: Currently you haven't in what you've done so far in
Speaker 6: free agency. You in free agency, you haven't even done
Speaker 6: enough to replace the guy that you've lost.
Speaker 5: Pull up Kurb real quick, pull up who's left while
Speaker 5: you're talking?
Speaker 8: Because left as who who?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 5: Did not re sign of our guys?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so let me let me finish my tire.
Speaker 12: Thought.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But for Tyron, I think it's it's you got to
Speaker 6: take the Bill Belichick approach. And for the Cowboys, the
Speaker 6: one there's a lot of things wrong with with with
Speaker 6: how people view the Cowboys, but one thing I do
Speaker 6: think that the Cowboys do wrong at times is they
Speaker 6: hold on to their guys a little bit too long.
Speaker 6: And I don't know what's because the relationships or how
Speaker 6: they feel or whatever it is. I think they hold
Speaker 6: on the guys a tad bit too long. And it
Speaker 6: takes a lot to get Tyron to Sunday. Like that's
Speaker 6: the part I think people don't understand behind the scenes,
Speaker 6: like it takes a lot to get him to Sunday,
Speaker 6: and then you have to restart it again next week,
Speaker 6: and that takes a toll on everybody, the coaches, the
Speaker 6: not only the coaches, but how they coach, the.
Speaker 7: Training staff, the.
Speaker 6: Workout staff, Like it takes a lot of people because
Speaker 6: you're not he's not practicing, the psic not practicing, and
Speaker 6: you have to kind of do a round the clock
Speaker 6: treatment to get him to.
Speaker 4: Get in and with their games where he was like
Speaker 4: game time decision. So if you're at the backup and
Speaker 4: you're his teammates, it's kind of like I don't know
Speaker 4: what guy I'm playing.
Speaker 6: With and you're coaching, right, You're coaching changes because now
Speaker 6: I got plays that I feel confident with when I
Speaker 6: run in with Tyrann, and I don't feel so confident
Speaker 6: when I run him with Austin Richards or TJ.
Speaker 7: Back, whoever is the backup guy that's in there.
Speaker 6: So even coaching kind of is a little bit more
Speaker 6: strenuous because you kind of got to put together a
Speaker 6: main plan and then a pseudo plan to that plan,
Speaker 6: because if we don't have Tyron Smith, maybe I don't
Speaker 6: feel as comfortable call in as many seven step dropbacks,
Speaker 6: you know, deeper passing plays, because maybe we don't hold
Speaker 6: the edge good enough, all right. And these are the
Speaker 6: small little things that happen in the in the in
Speaker 6: the you know, in the moments of the game. Is
Speaker 6: how confident do I feel running to this side again?
Speaker 6: And then if I don't feel confident, now I'm second
Speaker 6: guessing my call because the call might have been the
Speaker 6: best call, might have been running get to the left,
Speaker 6: but I don't have Tyrann, So maybe I might want to,
Speaker 6: I might go to the right one. I really should
Speaker 6: have ran to the left, but my confidence is not
Speaker 6: quite there with the guys that we have in those
Speaker 6: particular spots of that particular time. So it took a
Speaker 6: lot to get Tyrann to Sunday. And you know, great,
Speaker 6: if Tyron goes to the Jets, the Jets look like
Speaker 6: they're putting a band together to make a one year run,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and see if they can't
Speaker 6: do some things. And if he goes there and he does, well, great,
Speaker 6: fantastic Tyron.
Speaker 7: You deserve it.
Speaker 6: Thirteen years you put into this league. Man, you've been
Speaker 6: really good for a long time. You get a chance
Speaker 6: to go out, you know, on top.
Speaker 5: And you get to block for the cowboy killer.
Speaker 7: I can't beat him.
Speaker 4: Join him right if he's you know, if if he's
Speaker 4: as healthy as he is, he looks president, right, man.
Speaker 5: I just I just heard about that. I was like,
Speaker 5: are you kidding me? I was like, that's.
Speaker 7: Gonna be it just not true. Let me just say that.
Speaker 5: Maybe he does both because if you think about it.
Speaker 6: Not to toot my own horn, but my brother is
Speaker 6: one of the senior advisors for.
Speaker 7: Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 5: It's not Oh, let's talk off there. That's really just disappointing.
Speaker 7: Because I was to my brother jam Holly, what was up, brother?
Speaker 4: Because I was I was saying, you know what, because
Speaker 4: he's probably not going to participate a lot in training
Speaker 4: camp anyway, so he could actually, you know, campaign, and
Speaker 4: you know, both of those guys are a little little wacky.
Speaker 6: Rob's a fan of of of Aaron. But I can
Speaker 6: tell you from you.
Speaker 5: Know there he goes and you heard it here with
Speaker 5: the boys political talk.
Speaker 4: Last time we we got it, we talked about politics,
Speaker 4: but Derek got a voicemail.
Speaker 5: I still the more I think about that, I think
Speaker 5: that was a bit.
Speaker 8: I think that was There's been a couple of times
Speaker 8: I got an email about that too, and said the
Speaker 8: wrong thing.
Speaker 7: You did, you did, you got there?
Speaker 5: You go, Yeah, don't we don't touch politics, you know,
Speaker 5: don't even talk.
Speaker 6: This is an adorsemith for Robert Kennedy. My brother just
Speaker 6: happens to work. So this isn't this a no coming
Speaker 6: to be like, oh, you know.
Speaker 4: Derek up about Yeah, this was not a political show.
Speaker 8: I do agree with you though on Tyron, though, I mean,
Speaker 8: it's probably time to move on. And the part of
Speaker 8: the word, like you said, one, he's a good dude,
Speaker 8: I know you got to know him pretty well, but
Speaker 8: also there's you wish there was a little bit more
Speaker 8: of a backup playing place. Maybe Richards is the guy.
Speaker 4: But okay, so that's my point. And I love Tyron,
Speaker 4: like I hated to see him go. He was probably
Speaker 4: my him and him and Tyrone Crawford probably my two
Speaker 4: guys on the team, right, and they both kind of
Speaker 4: you know, they they weren't superstar. I mean, Tyron's a superstar,
Speaker 4: but you know, offensive Lineman, they don't get that. And
Speaker 4: he doesn't talk, you know, unless you get him in private,
Speaker 4: and then you know, like like you said, he's a
Speaker 4: great human being and like his story is incredible and
Speaker 4: he's just a good person. So I hope he goes
Speaker 4: to the Jets and they do really well because he
Speaker 4: deserves it because he was a hell of a you know,
Speaker 4: hell of a offensive lineman. Came into the league so young,
Speaker 4: Like I have pictures of him with hair, that's how
Speaker 4: long ago he came in. When he was at training camp,
Speaker 4: I remember when he would stay out on the field
Speaker 4: at training camp for like thirty minutes after everybody went
Speaker 4: in working with was it Hudson Howse was that the
Speaker 4: line coach back then, and San Antonio was his first year,
Speaker 4: and he would stay out there and he worked, and
Speaker 4: Dwear would come out work with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we used to like kind of stop like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 7: He would get Deware. Yeah, they like okay, okay, next period, you'd.
Speaker 5: Be like and you know what.
Speaker 4: And I think that was the first time that that
Speaker 4: started the trend of because drafting offensive lineman was never sexy,
Speaker 4: and he was the first one that everybody was like,
Speaker 4: you know, it was like kind of on offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: Then you were like then when you saw what he's
Speaker 4: was turning into. And then when they drafted Travis and
Speaker 4: Zach and it was like, okay, offensive lineman, that's kind
Speaker 4: of around here. That's a sexy pick because you saw
Speaker 4: what it turned into. Right, So so this so Readolph,
Speaker 4: who who we've lost?
Speaker 5: Because I don't want to know what the hell? What
Speaker 5: what is gonna like? You said, Readolf.
Speaker 7: Just who who's left?
Speaker 5: Who's left?
Speaker 8: Dorn's Armstrong, Tyler Beiddish, Dante Fowler, and Noah. They all
Speaker 8: went to Washington, uh Nevill Gatimore, Son with Miami, Tony
Speaker 8: Pollard with Tennessee, Tyrone with New York and something we
Speaker 8: should talk about maybe here in a little bit. Jonathan
Speaker 8: Hankins went to.
Speaker 5: Okay, so just read them off without the teams again.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 4: Imagine imagine you go into a Sunday Okay, and you
Speaker 4: go these guys are out.
Speaker 5: Not in the game.
Speaker 8: Dorns, Armstrong, Tyler, Dante Fowler, Neville Gallimore, Jonathan Hankins, Noah sorry,
Speaker 8: and Tony Pollard, Tyron Smith.
Speaker 5: I don't feel good about that game.
Speaker 13: Starter.
Speaker 6: The only player, the only player that was consistently not
Speaker 6: in that one. We used to call him on our
Speaker 6: show Aight of the Sports. We called him noahgn active.
Speaker 6: He was never active, inactive all the time.
Speaker 4: That's the only one that didn't contribute yeah, but if
Speaker 4: you if you told me his.
Speaker 6: First time out he got a touchdown on the block
Speaker 6: field goal. But after that it was.
Speaker 4: Like, but I don't like, I would not feel good
Speaker 4: playing anybody. Like you can tell me you're playing Washington
Speaker 4: last year and these are your inactives, and I would
Speaker 4: be like, I don't feel good about going into this game.
Speaker 4: And you haven't really you haven't signed anybody to replace those.
Speaker 7: People that left.
Speaker 8: No, not yet. Now you have rees signed Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 8: I guess he was a contributor.
Speaker 7: CJ.
Speaker 8: A good one. You hope can come back on special
Speaker 8: teams Dad, or maybe you're starting running back.
Speaker 7: Now that's it.
Speaker 8: You got some guys still out there. Oh you got
Speaker 8: your long snapper of course, but.
Speaker 7: It's probably the most important piece. George Lewis.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, another group remaining that's not signed. I guess
Speaker 8: Gilmour would be the one guy that you'd be like, yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, honestly, I mean signing back Jordan Lewis. That gives
Speaker 6: you your nickel. Now your nickel slot deron blame what
Speaker 6: he did. Next year you you now kick him over
Speaker 6: and you get Trayvon if he can, if he can
Speaker 6: stop impregnating people.
Speaker 7: You get it, you get you get him back.
Speaker 5: That's another show.
Speaker 7: You get him back.
Speaker 6: So now you kind of you know, now you go
Speaker 6: and get some depth, you know, in those spots. But like,
Speaker 6: if Gilmore is willing to come back and be a backup,
Speaker 6: then then cool. But I have my two starters of
Speaker 6: my Nickel and those guys right there. You know, just
Speaker 6: you're good at at safety. But yeah, man, I just
Speaker 6: this this team is heading in a direction that doesn't
Speaker 6: look like it's gonna be very competitive next year.
Speaker 5: That schedule and the and the and the O line.
Speaker 4: Like, I just want to know what they're gonna do
Speaker 4: because because you're what left tackle center?
Speaker 7: You have Zach?
Speaker 5: You got Tyler?
Speaker 8: Right, Tyler, I think is the only well Zach's sure thing,
Speaker 8: but he's you.
Speaker 7: Know, your time. He missed a couple of games this
Speaker 7: year with it.
Speaker 8: You know, Tyler's probably the only one of that five you're.
Speaker 4: Like, and and he's got a little bit of a
Speaker 4: holding problem. So do you put him out to tackle
Speaker 4: where he's working in even more space or do you
Speaker 4: keep him at guard?
Speaker 7: So here's my thing about that. But my thing is.
Speaker 6: When you start talking about quarterback play, right, you can.
Speaker 6: It's very difficult to help guards. I can help a tackle.
Speaker 6: I can roll away from him. I can put a
Speaker 6: tight end next to him. I can have a back
Speaker 6: chipping there.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: My personnel. But if I'm soft in the middle, right
Speaker 6: like if I'm if I'm if I'm a little bit
Speaker 6: dowe in the middle, where now, because I've kicked Tyler
Speaker 6: outside and now I don't know what I have at center,
Speaker 6: my left guard can be iffy. Well, now if the
Speaker 6: if the if I have consistent penetration in that a
Speaker 6: gap to my left side. From a quarterback perspective, that's
Speaker 6: that's more worries Someme than me than me having pressure
Speaker 6: from the outside. Because I have nowhere to step up.
Speaker 6: I can't drive the ball down the field. I can't
Speaker 6: deliver the ball in the spaces that I want to
Speaker 6: deliver it because the pressure is coming right towards me,
Speaker 6: right in my grill. So to me, this is innate.
Speaker 6: I'm going to stand on business when they come to this.
Speaker 6: Tyler's not moving, he's not going outside because it's it's
Speaker 6: very difficult to shore up the center of your offensive line,
Speaker 6: and again your quarterback while he's he's a decent athlete.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying Dak is like that's not Josh Allen
Speaker 6: as far as athletic Athletically, Dak is best when he's
Speaker 6: able to have a clean pocket in front of him,
Speaker 6: when he's able when Dak's able to step up in
Speaker 6: the pocket and drive the ball down the field. He's
Speaker 6: one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league. Where
Speaker 6: he gets a little bit off at times when that
Speaker 6: pressure is in in his grill and he has to
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, work around things and he's trying
Speaker 6: to like jump throw and he you know, the ball
Speaker 6: is getting tips and he's and he can't he can't
Speaker 6: clearly read what's in front of him right like he
Speaker 6: does well if he rolls out right or left. But
Speaker 6: when he gets a chance to stand in that pocket
Speaker 6: and he pat that thing and he's able to see
Speaker 6: what's happening in there, he's a really, really good quarterback.
Speaker 7: He's one of the best in the league.
Speaker 6: So you gotta want to secure that first and saying
Speaker 6: we can always do things until we find the main
Speaker 6: stay there that if we have to help tight end
Speaker 6: hell I mean hell Luke Luke Luke School meger go block,
Speaker 6: go block, go go be go go be left tacklesh
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Backs chipped that way, we
Speaker 6: semi roll the opposite way, quick plasters. There's things that can.
Speaker 8: Be i'd when Tyler to stay put even if be
Speaker 8: honest was back. Now you're throwing a new center in
Speaker 8: there as well.
Speaker 4: I mean that's so let's let's when we come back,
Speaker 4: let's talk about are you going to give your quarterback?
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 4: What is it estimated at how much a year? Sixty
Speaker 4: sixty a year with an offensive line that is gonna
Speaker 4: have probably three new people starting, like, like, let's talk
Speaker 4: about that, Like is.
Speaker 5: That where the road we're going down?
Speaker 4: Are you going to invest that much money in someone
Speaker 4: that could be running for their life all season?
Speaker 5: Or are we not.
Speaker 4: Renewing that thing? What do you want to get y'all
Speaker 4: thoughts when we come back and other things. We had
Speaker 4: another player that's no longer on this team that contributed
Speaker 4: and sadly was probably the right decision. But we'll talk
Speaker 4: about that in a few minutes when we come back
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Speaker 4: back to football talk. Leighton vander esh announced over the
Speaker 4: weekend that he was retiring, which I think we all
Speaker 4: kind of had a heads up that that was coming
Speaker 4: in smart move, right decision, probably with his neck issues.
Speaker 4: That's something you you know, you don't mess around with
Speaker 4: a back, a in a neck, you know, especially your
Speaker 4: your neck. So what do you have not was six years,
Speaker 4: six years with the team, so drafted by the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: he was a lifelong Cowboy fan and three of.
Speaker 7: Those sixy had neck injuries.
Speaker 6: Mmmmm he had twenty sixteen, twenty nine, October twenty sixteen,
Speaker 6: November twenty nineteen, and then this passed to one again.
Speaker 5: I wish he could have stayed healthy.
Speaker 8: Had another was a pro bowler, Yeah, what might have been?
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That's the thing about I love football, I do, and
Speaker 6: we were talking about some stuff before before the show.
Speaker 7: But this is a one business.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's not if it's when the great thing
Speaker 6: that you wish is that you're your hurt doesn't take
Speaker 6: you so far away from a quality of life that
Speaker 6: there's no return. And the thing that people, I think
Speaker 6: sometimes from the outside don't understand is that this is
Speaker 6: a game that doesn't love you back. It doesn't and
Speaker 6: you at times this you give this game more than
Speaker 6: you can afford to give, and it costs people. Now,
Speaker 6: you make a great fortune, and you make great celebrity,
Speaker 6: and it's a great time. But in the grand scheme
Speaker 6: of it, like Leyton vandersh as how I feel, however
Speaker 6: you feel about him? Right, six years, that's a finite
Speaker 6: amount of time when you think about the grand scheme
Speaker 6: of I'm supposed to be here for seventy five eighty
Speaker 6: plus and six years of my life I gave to
Speaker 6: this game that may ultimately impact me in a way
Speaker 6: down the line that my quality of life could be affected.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: And if you ask Layton, and he even said it
Speaker 6: when he when he think, he said, my body wouldn't cooperate,
Speaker 6: you know. And and if you ask him again, hey,
Speaker 6: would you do it all again? He's again one hundred
Speaker 6: percent of you'll say it again. But sometimes sometimes you
Speaker 6: have to give to this game more than you you're
Speaker 6: willing to give, and more than you even have to give.
Speaker 6: And that is the long you know, our brother, right,
Speaker 6: he's out double replacement gave a lot to the game.
Speaker 6: You see how Nate walks up and down this hallway.
Speaker 6: Gave a lot to this game.
Speaker 5: Jesse's gonna get arrested for hip A violations.
Speaker 6: Well, he tweeted it, That's why he tweeted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he must be drugs.
Speaker 6: Pictures and everything. The breakfast is good up there.
Speaker 8: Did you ever have a stinger or anything like that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 4: You know of any player that you played with at
Speaker 4: a professional level that did not have some kind of
Speaker 4: off season surgery at some point something just to clean up.
Speaker 7: Or Nope, he had to go under.
Speaker 4: Nope, And most most people have them after every season.
Speaker 7: You not wanting not one.
Speaker 5: You just don't hear about it, right, not one.
Speaker 6: I were just talking about it before. There's mornings I
Speaker 6: get up and I cannot twist the cap off the
Speaker 6: toothpaste because of my hands. I've broken every finger. I've broken.
Speaker 7: My hand.
Speaker 6: I broken my hand. Every finger on my hand a wrists.
Speaker 6: And there are times when I get up in the
Speaker 6: morning and if you handed me this water bottle, I
Speaker 6: would struggle taking the top off this water bottle. There's
Speaker 6: times I get up in the morning I have to
Speaker 6: sit on the side of the bed because my ankles
Speaker 6: are so stiff and jacked up that if I get up,
Speaker 6: I can't take that. My ankle won't bend enough to
Speaker 6: take the step without falling. So I got to like
Speaker 6: sit there for a little while and kind of like
Speaker 6: work them and get them to loosen up in the joints.
Speaker 6: There's things that what I do it again? Sure sign
Speaker 6: me up all over again. But that's the game. That
Speaker 6: is the game, and it sucks. It sucks, and for
Speaker 6: most of us, for most of us. For every Aaron
Speaker 6: Donald after ten years gets to walk away on his
Speaker 6: own accord, most of us, ninety percent of us.
Speaker 7: Are pushed out, yeah, or pushed out.
Speaker 6: You're old, you're beat up, your body doesn't respond, you're
Speaker 6: not atheltic anymore.
Speaker 7: Most of us gets told you're done.
Speaker 6: And that's a hard thing to cope with when you
Speaker 6: have to get up one day, and for Layton's situation,
Speaker 6: you have to get up one day and make the
Speaker 6: toughest decision, one of the toughest decisions you've ever had
Speaker 6: to make, because all guys like Layton have known is
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 7: And you have to say.
Speaker 6: I'm done, guys, yeah, And there's no more training camp,
Speaker 6: no more OTAs, no more structure in your life, and
Speaker 6: you go, I'm twenty eight years old.
Speaker 5: What am I gonna do? I don't know anything else
Speaker 5: since I was this tall, I've had.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We talked about mentals
Speaker 6: and dentals. This is the mental part of it. I
Speaker 6: don't know what to do, right? What do I do?
Speaker 6: And everybody doesn't have the gift to stand behind a
Speaker 6: Michael get in front of TV and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Everybody didn't have that gift. Everybody don't want to do
Speaker 6: that right. But that's the question. You could say, well,
Speaker 6: he has a bunch of money, but you do not understand.
Speaker 6: But a person's like, even to this day, I'm forty
Speaker 6: years old, I need structure. Part of my mental health
Speaker 6: being in a good place. Structure I need to I
Speaker 6: need to know that I have to be somewhere like
Speaker 6: this is kind of veering off, but this is the
Speaker 6: mental part of the game. Part of the reason why
Speaker 6: I have dedicated myself again to working out stuff like that. Mentally,
Speaker 6: I am in a better space when I know I
Speaker 6: have to be somewhere. Someone's waiting on me, like there's
Speaker 6: a there's a there's an attachment there because that's what
Speaker 6: I've always done. I've always done. Hey, I know my
Speaker 6: work out there, the trainers waiting for me, the coach
Speaker 6: is waiting for me.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And so when when when I have too much freedom
Speaker 6: is when I'm at my worst. Too much freedom allows
Speaker 6: my mind to go places that it shouldn't go. Because
Speaker 6: my whole life has been built on structure. So I
Speaker 6: have to make sure that I kind of keep things
Speaker 6: in a structured ful because it gives me, It keeps
Speaker 6: my anxiety down, it keeps so guds when they leave
Speaker 6: the game so abruptly, like it wasn't like there wasn't
Speaker 6: a plant.
Speaker 7: Layton didn't Layton didn't have a plan. There was no
Speaker 7: exit plan for him.
Speaker 6: It's it's ball to the wheels fall off, right, and
Speaker 6: then the wheel fell off. There's no spare, there's no
Speaker 6: there's no triple A. You're done. And so the now
Speaker 6: what good thing.
Speaker 4: About him though, is he has you know, he's got
Speaker 4: interest outside of football. You know, he's got the hunting thing,
Speaker 4: he's got his dad's a guide and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: There's some guys that got nothing right. The only only
Speaker 4: friends you have in family are in that locker room.
Speaker 4: And when you can't come back in the building anymore,
Speaker 4: and you wake up one day and they're all the
Speaker 4: training camp, and you're like, that's got to be like
Speaker 4: a loan.
Speaker 6: That's the next phase, right, because now you got to
Speaker 6: because even even having stuff doing that again, the structure
Speaker 6: is I'm supposed to be there. Boy, I wish I
Speaker 6: was there. I missed the smell of the grass. I
Speaker 6: missed the smell of of of.
Speaker 7: The locker room.
Speaker 6: It's foul of a stitch at times, it's still it's
Speaker 6: still a place of familiar.
Speaker 5: To a safe place.
Speaker 7: It's my it's my safehavior. Yeah, those guys get me,
Speaker 7: I get them protected. We're insulated in this thing.
Speaker 4: You talk to the trainers, you talk to the equipment guys.
Speaker 4: Those are your family. That's your that's your brothers and
Speaker 4: your cousin literally.
Speaker 7: Uncles, and so it sucks.
Speaker 6: It sucks, but that's the reality of this game. That's
Speaker 6: the reality of this game. You can't you can't do
Speaker 6: it forever.
Speaker 4: And speaking of reality of the game and not being
Speaker 4: able to do it forever, we have a special guest
Speaker 4: on the phone right now, a call in guest, and
Speaker 4: we don't know what we're getting, folks, because he's been
Speaker 4: tweeting some wild stuff and we know he's getting fed.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the show, our fourth member that's not here today,
Speaker 4: mister Nate Newton.
Speaker 5: How you doing, Nate?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm doing good. And I had a rough
Speaker 2: rough night. Uh numb And it's a part of the
Speaker 2: ad that they give me that and I'm sure and
Speaker 2: for like two or three days to get this all
Speaker 2: falseness of security and like get war off on me
Speaker 2: last night, but it hit me like a ton of
Speaker 2: bricks and uh so it's been it's been a rough night, man.
Speaker 2: But I agree with what Jess was saying, you know
Speaker 2: about you know, just the second stage of your life.
Speaker 2: You know, I've made a little film, you know, to
Speaker 2: show people that that second stage of life can be ugly.
Speaker 2: Especially you got to get to me replacements, help replacement,
Speaker 2: Uh the sacrifice we make for that money. If guys
Speaker 2: could just look into the future, some I don't think
Speaker 2: some guys would do that. You know, I'm playing the
Speaker 2: I'm man in pain. But but that drive that always
Speaker 2: drove me, driving me now to get up we have
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But just be looking for you
Speaker 2: us some good stuff. Russell has some good stuff. You
Speaker 2: laid down man and shining Kirk good Off voice. Man,
Speaker 2: it just it makes me want to get on up
Speaker 2: and do what I got.
Speaker 12: To do for the day.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So question for you, why did you do them
Speaker 4: both at the same time?
Speaker 2: Okay? Everybody that did one need told me, hey, man,
Speaker 2: if I I just wish I had bed both needs
Speaker 2: because now I ain't going back to do the second.
Speaker 9: Me.
Speaker 2: Most people that did both needs, it was hell. But
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did both needs, you know, because I
Speaker 2: wouln't want to go through this twife and man, and
Speaker 2: now doctors are getting the way they don't want to
Speaker 2: do double knees. Doctor Peterson, I was talking a lot
Speaker 2: of the cowboys' needs and stuff.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's one of the few doctors left around her to
Speaker 2: do double knees.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: So I just needed to do it.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: About six months ago, I was in my yard and
Speaker 2: I was working hard and having fun, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, my knees locked up, and I said, this
Speaker 2: is it. You know that day where you know you
Speaker 2: go say, hey, this is it. And so I call
Speaker 2: Gym and Brett and all of those guys about the
Speaker 2: Cooper and they just and me. Now now four or
Speaker 2: five months later, I'm sitting in this room man, listening
Speaker 2: to y'all guys, do your deal. But I got to
Speaker 2: get up and go and get the rehabber. That's what
Speaker 2: it's all about.
Speaker 5: Now, how long are you going to be out? How
Speaker 5: long before you back on the show?
Speaker 2: Uh? That job? I think in a couple of weeks, man,
Speaker 2: I think a couple a couple of three weeks. Like
Speaker 2: I say, I'm probably have to have a walker, you know,
Speaker 2: if I can get the swings, have to be a walker.
Speaker 2: But if I do it the right way, probably be
Speaker 2: about a month. I Sh'll be able to walk on
Speaker 2: my own in about a month.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So back to to Jesse's question, you've had what how
Speaker 4: many surgeries is this now that you've had?
Speaker 2: Told me I had the right shoulder, right elbow, both knees. Uh,
Speaker 2: I've had round about seven to eight surgeries, you know,
Speaker 2: not counting this from here because you always do that
Speaker 2: touch up. Well, just to tell you you're always doing
Speaker 2: clean up work. You know where your chips up. They
Speaker 2: go in there and cut you up, clean up, so
Speaker 2: you don't you know, I'm counting those little nick knack
Speaker 2: things like that too. But I don't only have like
Speaker 2: three or four, but you would call major deals and
Speaker 2: you know, another team and just uh you can speak
Speaker 2: on this right here is well we have like now
Speaker 2: I'm a normal human, they gonna give me all the
Speaker 2: time I need to recover. But in football, these a
Speaker 2: lot of these surgeries that take guys six seven weeks.
Speaker 2: We be getting back in two and three weeks, you know.
Speaker 2: So now that I'm a normal human, it'll take me
Speaker 2: six eight weeks to get back strong. But just to
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, not the double knee replace, but
Speaker 2: they'll tell you most surgeries, you know that we have
Speaker 2: knees and all of that, we'll be back like still
Speaker 2: back Gallup, galliwa Gallimore back, you know, just I mean
Speaker 2: galliw what's Michael Gallups? Michael Gallups? I guess now see
Speaker 2: you're still wearing off of Michael Gallupy see how quick
Speaker 2: those guys that back Normally normal people don't get back
Speaker 2: that quick, not not not running and jumping and catching
Speaker 2: and get beat up on. So the fellas, I'm fading
Speaker 2: and then y'all be good, all right? Brother, Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: j yeah, yes, sir, be nice to Charles next week, Charles.
Speaker 7: Hey, tell the boys off the air. But I'll do
Speaker 7: my best.
Speaker 2: All right, thank y'all.
Speaker 5: Man, y'all get you get your feeling better, Nate. So
Speaker 5: we're going to go to our last break before we do.
Speaker 4: Here's how random Ned is like. He will share all
Speaker 4: of our business, everything we say in private on the show,
Speaker 4: and then he'll tell us a lot off off off Mike,
Speaker 4: off camera, off the show.
Speaker 5: He'll share things.
Speaker 6: Which, by the way, we do keep confidential, like a
Speaker 6: lot of that makes send to us.
Speaker 7: We actually keep it to ourselves.
Speaker 5: Him not so well, not so much.
Speaker 4: So don't don't enter the group chat unless you're unless
Speaker 4: you're willing for it.
Speaker 5: To go public.
Speaker 4: But then he will do something like this that's like
Speaker 4: a life monumental moment in his life, and we find
Speaker 4: out about it when everybody else does when it winds
Speaker 4: up on Facebook. Like we had no idea he was
Speaker 4: having double knee replacement.
Speaker 6: Never mentioned it, never talked about it, no, nothing, not once.
Speaker 5: So that's how random our co host is over here.
Speaker 5: So and we love him.
Speaker 7: We love him.
Speaker 5: We find out when he's in Mexico, when he's.
Speaker 7: In Nate leaves the show at ten o'clock. We get
Speaker 7: a text at four thirty, I'm in bringing to Florida.
Speaker 7: Wait what?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 5: We thought he left?
Speaker 7: He left?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: All right to take our last break. When we come back,
Speaker 4: I don't know what. Maybe we'll talk about Dak. Are
Speaker 4: we gonna resign him?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 8: What are you guys thoughts on lost Hankins, Yeah, that
Speaker 8: seemed like a no brainer.
Speaker 5: But who knows he's gone? All right, We'll be right
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Speaker 4: so Hankins is gone. I think he's the one guy
Speaker 4: that we were like, this is the dude we probably
Speaker 4: need to hang on.
Speaker 7: To the one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's and he's the past the first couple of
Speaker 8: days of the big contracts. You're obviously need that position.
Speaker 4: He said he wanted to be here, and he's the
Speaker 4: one guy that, even though it wasn't great at times,
Speaker 4: he's the one guy that could actually somewhat slow the
Speaker 4: run game down.
Speaker 12: Now you got a huge.
Speaker 4: Deficiency there, and then you know you've got Dak's contract looming. Jesse,
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on your your your offensive line
Speaker 4: is disappearing?
Speaker 5: Are you gonna you you're the GM?
Speaker 4: Are you giving Dak sixty million dollars to play behind
Speaker 4: that line?
Speaker 5: Or are you thinking maybe this thing doesn't get done.
Speaker 6: No, you don't have a quarterback. You lose a lot
Speaker 6: business wise. Yeah right, you don't. You don't have a
Speaker 6: quarterback that's star, that star. Yeah right, So like that
Speaker 6: that that keeps you, that keeps you relevant enough, right.
Speaker 7: It gives you a chance, It gives you a chance.
Speaker 6: But then now the pressure mounts because now you're going
Speaker 6: to say a four.
Speaker 7: Sixty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta be like those other guys. You gotta
Speaker 6: you gotta be you know.
Speaker 4: You gotta get in that top five conversation, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Because now, according to his brother, he's already there.
Speaker 6: According to ye Cord, let me stop, let meant me.
Speaker 6: I have enough family drama. Sorry, I'm sorry, I have enough.
Speaker 6: I got enough family drama to deal with already in
Speaker 6: my life. I need to add, that's not your it's
Speaker 6: not my family. That's not a Holly family. That's already
Speaker 6: I'm already dealing. I'm already dealing with the immediate family
Speaker 6: members already.
Speaker 8: But the longer this goes on, I mean, if they
Speaker 8: don't extend him, he's gone. He's gone, right, I mean
Speaker 8: then they're in a rebuilding. Yeah, if they're I mean they're.
Speaker 5: So are they?
Speaker 14: So?
Speaker 4: Are they not re signing these these players because they're
Speaker 4: trying to get the money to pay him or like.
Speaker 8: No, you know salary cap hell or do you not?
Speaker 8: You just don't think they're.
Speaker 7: But making the deals.
Speaker 6: Get them out of the salary cap hell, right, giving
Speaker 6: them the giving Dak the deal, and then okay, so
Speaker 6: the other day he got a five million dollar bonus
Speaker 6: or roster bonus, which they turned into a signing bonus, right,
Speaker 6: which alleviated some more cap really for them, gave them
Speaker 6: an extra four million dollars. But they added two voighty
Speaker 6: years into his current contract. You know, we're all talking
Speaker 6: about the forty years they don't have anything on them.
Speaker 6: But this year that you can add there, which kind
Speaker 6: of opens up the door to say, okay, maybe we.
Speaker 7: Can work through some things.
Speaker 6: Here is the here is the football, the twenty fourth,
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four brand of football.
Speaker 7: It's the credit card method, right, A lot.
Speaker 6: Of these teams have just begun to do this thing
Speaker 6: where they add these voity years. It's the new way
Speaker 6: of how I beat the cap is I keep adding
Speaker 6: these voity years to the contract that really have nothing
Speaker 6: on them. They're no money on them. They're just added
Speaker 6: years to the contract, and I kick this money down
Speaker 6: the line. So, for example, they added the two years
Speaker 6: at the end the Dak Prescott's contract, so we know
Speaker 6: what the cap hit is already, right, and so even
Speaker 6: if you go into next year, what you've now given
Speaker 6: yourself is you've given yourself a window to kick that
Speaker 6: money down a little bit more so, to take that
Speaker 6: big money that they will owe him. They'll now take
Speaker 6: that with the two voided years that has no money
Speaker 6: on it and go.
Speaker 7: Okay, well we'll just go boom boo boo boo boom.
Speaker 6: And break that sixty up over the next couple of years.
Speaker 6: It's the credit card bill. You can you can pay
Speaker 6: the minimum if you want. That's fine, and you'll still
Speaker 6: have an active credit card.
Speaker 7: Chase it forever.
Speaker 6: You're just gonna keep chasing it, and you're eventually going
Speaker 6: to it's it's eventually going to have to be paid
Speaker 6: and that's just the nature of the beasts. And so
Speaker 6: but I think now with dak Is, as you get
Speaker 6: closer and closer to the season from a longevity standpoint,
Speaker 6: and you know, players and agencies, they'll get a little
Speaker 6: bit pissed off that they're saying, hey, we want to
Speaker 6: get a deal done. You know that you got to
Speaker 6: get a deal done. And we kind of really got
Speaker 6: you by the kahunas because you can't trade us and
Speaker 6: you can't franchise us.
Speaker 7: So if you're willing.
Speaker 6: To take this big cat pit this year again, that
Speaker 6: money will just take and they'll just go, well, it
Speaker 6: won't be as big because we'll just move it a
Speaker 6: lot on line and we'll be able to move through that.
Speaker 7: But what's gonna happen is now we're we're gonna just walk.
Speaker 6: We're gonna We're gonna just play this year out and
Speaker 6: then next year I'll enter free agency and I'll go.
Speaker 6: And so now you're playing this, you're playing the Colvins,
Speaker 6: are playing this gamble game again, and now you have
Speaker 6: you also have to look at if I don't have
Speaker 6: a quarterback, I think CD deals get done. But now
Speaker 6: Micah is looming, and if Micah and his agency looks up,
Speaker 6: because I believe who's Micah is? Micah is Michael David Maloga.
Speaker 6: I don't know his agent.
Speaker 5: And Mike is seems like the kind of guy that's like,
Speaker 5: I want to go win.
Speaker 7: I want to go win some money. Yeah, he does both.
Speaker 6: But if he looks up and he goes, well if
Speaker 6: if if I don't really have if the quarterback's going
Speaker 6: and we're in a rebuilding, then maybe I can go
Speaker 6: chase somewhere else.
Speaker 7: He's gonna get the money.
Speaker 6: But maybe it's like you know what, Washington, somebody's willing
Speaker 6: to Yeah, yeah, and he is. I tell you one
Speaker 6: thing about David Malogea, he ain't playing around. He ain't
Speaker 6: playing around this dude. He gets his clients paid. He
Speaker 6: got the Desaun Watson deal done. Like you look at
Speaker 6: all his clients. He gets his clients like it used
Speaker 6: to be Drew Rosenhouse used to be the man.
Speaker 7: No, David, this joker. He don't care about none of.
Speaker 5: That whole hometown discount.
Speaker 6: He ain't given no discount now, he ain't getting no
Speaker 6: He going straight to the bank and you better bring
Speaker 6: your check book. He ain't get ain't gonna be no
Speaker 6: hometown discount with this dude. He's getting folks rich. He
Speaker 6: is the top He's the top dog right now and
Speaker 6: right now he has one of the top dog clients.
Speaker 7: You think he's coming off that.
Speaker 5: Because he gets paid off.
Speaker 6: With coming off that, he'll tell you don't want him
Speaker 6: to be here, No problem, there's thirty, no problem one
Speaker 6: other teams that will take it.
Speaker 7: We'll go elsewhere.
Speaker 6: And he is right now. He is the he is
Speaker 6: what uh who is the quarterback agent back in the day.
Speaker 6: He's still an agent now, but he'sberg. Yeah, he is
Speaker 6: that joker.
Speaker 5: He is a Jerry maguire.
Speaker 7: He is this David mullagatta dude.
Speaker 6: This is the new top dog, pit bull vicious agent
Speaker 6: in the National Football League.
Speaker 7: His clients get wealthy.
Speaker 5: Not rich, I would say him and Todd France.
Speaker 9: Okay, he's Dax's agent, but he has all the top
Speaker 9: quo every quarterback he has.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but this dude, David Moore was saying that there's
Speaker 8: much trouble. They're in the salary cap this year. It
Speaker 8: could be even worse next year.
Speaker 5: Well, Dak's cap head next year.
Speaker 10: Uh per spot track is spow track is forty.
Speaker 7: Million, right, and that's and that's he's not on the team,
Speaker 7: and that's.
Speaker 6: The money that they'll put into those forty years if
Speaker 6: it not if it not gets done.
Speaker 5: But if you just put it down the way, if
Speaker 5: you resign him, you can do whatever. You don't get that,
Speaker 5: you don't get that hit, right, you change.
Speaker 7: You change that number that goes back into the pot, right,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then you could just push it out.
Speaker 4: But if he's not here, you don't resign him, then
Speaker 4: that's then you get Every team does this. So because
Speaker 4: I was just looking, I was just looking at Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurts because obviously Jalen just signed this huge deal.
Speaker 7: He could pay like thirteen million dollars this year.
Speaker 10: His base sellar is a million, yeah, one point one right,
Speaker 10: So if you go his last year, the contract.
Speaker 5: Is twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 10: But if you if you look at the Eagles cap
Speaker 10: hit for Jalen Hurts in twenty twenty nine, ninety seven
Speaker 10: million dollars.
Speaker 5: Style, it's like a balloon payment at the end.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they'll get there and they'll go, hey, you want
Speaker 6: an extension.
Speaker 10: So you get the extension and they'll adjust that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and it says cap hit ninety file and.
Speaker 4: Then every year the cap goes up, so you're kind
Speaker 4: of banking on that because of the revenue. And now
Speaker 4: there's new streaming services that are paying more money. So
Speaker 4: every year the TV deals go up and you make.
Speaker 9: More and and I don't think it's going to go
Speaker 9: up thirty million every year though.
Speaker 7: No, just letting you.
Speaker 5: Know, Oh, it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 4: What an interesting off season we've had so far. And
Speaker 4: we're not even we're not even to the draft.
Speaker 7: They've putten so much.
Speaker 6: They're putting so much pressure on willmaclan, that and that,
Speaker 6: and that'sc this draft.
Speaker 7: You gotta hit this.
Speaker 5: You cannot have another draft. If you have another draft
Speaker 5: like you did last year.
Speaker 7: You're done.
Speaker 8: Now can you even fill all these needs?
Speaker 7: You can't just in this one draft. You know you can't.
Speaker 5: There's no way.
Speaker 4: Because you figure what half your draft picks, if you're lucky,
Speaker 4: contribute the first year half and usually those are backups
Speaker 4: or spot play guys.
Speaker 5: Usually you have what two guys that, if you're.
Speaker 7: Lucky, that start your first your first two.
Speaker 4: First two guys, and then sometimes you get a third
Speaker 4: rounder that's like, oh that we hit on one. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you hit a fifth rounder that's like, oh yeah, he
Speaker 4: can be your four string guy on you know, receiver.
Speaker 7: You can be a major contributor.
Speaker 6: But you're asking like you're asking for impact right now.
Speaker 6: Starters and two of them are on your offensive line.
Speaker 7: Starters. Yeah, I need I gotta linebacker.
Speaker 6: I gotta find starters. Yeah, I can't find role players.
Speaker 6: I have to go like normally coming into the off season,
Speaker 6: heading into like the draft OTAs well and even training camp.
Speaker 6: You know, hey, I know forty forty ish guys. We know,
Speaker 6: are you usually have forty forty guys of your roster.
Speaker 6: We already know who's going to be here, Like the
Speaker 6: Cowboys are probably like some right around somewhere like thirty
Speaker 6: two thirty guys like we know are going to be here,
Speaker 6: and we're gonna we're gonna guestimate these other guys.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 4: The good thing about that is we get to cover
Speaker 4: it all, We get to talk about it for the
Speaker 4: next four months.
Speaker 5: We will not run out of things to talk about
Speaker 5: because of that star.
Speaker 7: David Mullogutta, if you want to, if you want to represent.
Speaker 4: Well, fellas hate that Nate wasn't here, but It was
Speaker 4: good to hang out with y'all for an hour so much.
Speaker 4: I mean, we could have done for another hour, but unfortunately, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have another.
Speaker 5: Obligation real job in seven minutes. Yeah, Chris, thanks for
Speaker 5: keeping us on the air. Good seeing you fellas. We'll
Speaker 5: see you next week. Jazz, I don't even know it's
Speaker 5: Jazz back there. She is not. Oh well, thanks for
Speaker 5: not keeping Chris company. What's my man's name? That gosh?
Speaker 4: Thanks for getting us up on all the socials and
Speaker 4: all the This is on demand by the.
Speaker 5: Way, because we have a Wi Fi issues in the area.
Speaker 5: My home.
Speaker 7: Billion dollars, baby, my home. You still can't fight against technoledge.
Speaker 7: Can't billion dollar cock tell you what? It's a billion dollars?
Speaker 5: I was working from home.
Speaker 4: I usually worked from a coffee shop, and I worked
Speaker 4: from home yesterday because I had to stay home with
Speaker 4: with Gray. And for four hours I didn't have I
Speaker 4: couldn't call anybody. No one could call me. I couldn't
Speaker 4: send or received text messages. So like, I had work
Speaker 4: calls that I couldn't even tell anybody I'm not going
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 7: On this call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I just disappeared for four hours and it's
Speaker 4: like that's you're so attached to technology. Part of me
Speaker 4: was like, this is kind of cool, like I could
Speaker 4: just lay around and not do anything. But then part
Speaker 4: of me was, you know, every five minutes, I'm checking
Speaker 4: to see if the signals back up.
Speaker 7: It was terrible.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, Fellas, this was fun. We'll do
Speaker 4: it again next week. Maybe we'll get to the rest
Speaker 4: of your list next week, Kurt.
Speaker 16: Sure, keep banging them out, Kurt, all right, next time,
Speaker 16: same next week, same time, same place.
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll get another call in from Nate. Nate next week,
Speaker 5: we're we're finalizing the details. Possibly, Yeah, we may have
Speaker 5: a Nate referred to might be in it might be,
Speaker 5: and we'll see.
Speaker 7: We'll try to give if you remembers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tune in to see if we have a special
Speaker 4: guest and a royal rumble and a royal rumble and shoes.
Speaker 5: We might not wear shoes. Next on Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 5: See you next week.
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