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Speaker 1: Happy Draft Saturday for you. I'm John. Yeah, we will

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Speaker 1: those um as well. So yesterday the Giants had to

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Paul. You're you around when Sims got drafted,

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Speaker 1: four three guy four three d n for me, I agree,

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Speaker 1: or inside in the sub maybe he could come inside

427
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Speaker 1: a little three technique and pass the situations. I'm with

428
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: you on that. But Anthony Nelson at of Iowa. I

429
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: always got a lot of good players picked in this track.

430
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: So far, they still have the money hooker left and

431
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: now the Giants are up in one a week. All right,

432
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Speaker 1: let's talk here and then we can take and I

433
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Speaker 1: can get to my Daniel Jones point. I'm taking that words.

434
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Speaker 1: I've I've decided, you know what, I appreciate that Prince

435
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: is a little bit better in pass pro and has

436
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Speaker 1: showed him now on television. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

437
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 1: David Edwards. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna change David

438
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: Deal has gotten in my head enough that he's afraid

439
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: of Alabama and Wisconsin offensive lineman staying healthy. I understand

440
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: because they've gotten the you know what beat out of him.

441
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: I understand, and for years in college. So I'm gonna

442
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: trust David Deal. I understand see the offensive lineman. So

443
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Isaiah Prince. So I feel like I'm

444
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: going to run into a Jamarco Jones problem like we

445
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: had last year, and I kept saying, take Jamarco Jones,

446
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: and then they never did, you know what, I take

447
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 1: it back. They're picking Julian Love. The Giants, by the way,

448
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 1: are announcing all their picks from the Make a Wish Castle,

449
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have a bunch of players there with

450
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Speaker 1: Make a Wish kids announcing all their picks. I think

451
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Speaker 1: that's Sa Kwan al right, I got some blair on

452
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Speaker 1: the screen. That is Sae Kwon Barkley at the Make

453
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: a Wish Castle announcing all the picks on day three.

454
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Speaker 1: Though a bunch of players, they're doing this, Love would

455
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: be a terrific pick, Julian, Yes, got it outstanding, all right?

456
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Speaker 1: I got one? How about that? No question? And and

457
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 1: honestly that's good. Best corner on the board, Paul, and

458
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: he'll battle with grand handing out for the spot. Yep,

459
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: you slide him in there. He knows what he's doing.

460
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: He's a good football player. He tackles, he can play man,

461
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: he can play zone, he can blitz. This guy does

462
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: it all. I'll bring up my notes on him, um

463
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: from watching tape of him this year. I got shorthands.

464
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Let me quickly go. You go first. Length. He's five eleven,

465
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Speaker 1: at least the numbers that I had seen on him

466
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Speaker 1: I had. I liked his length, I liked his his

467
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: ability to turn. He had a burst to the ball.

468
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: I liked his ball skills. I'm sorry I'm reading the

469
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Speaker 1: wrong guy. That's justin lane. Julian Love Length, Jam turn

470
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: ball skills, physical, uh, questions, plays a lot of cushion.

471
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: I want to see him tighten it up a little

472
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Speaker 1: bit when he gets to the NFL. And he doesn't

473
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Speaker 1: have pure blazing speed, but I mean he's got everything else.

474
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Speaker 1: Here we go. I got not afraid to tackle. Plays

475
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Speaker 1: right cornerback, left cornerback, slot, plays press man in zone.

476
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Better zone player than he is a man player. Uh,

477
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: sometimes he's trouble getting his head around a man to

478
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: man coverage. Breaks on the ball well, extremely well in zone.

479
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: Plays inside. He would follow around the opponent's best wide receiver,

480
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: versatile cornerback number two for a team that will slide

481
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: inside on third down four or five, four or forty

482
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Speaker 1: yard dash, which is probably why he dropped. More important

483
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: to me six seven two three cone drill, which tells

484
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: you change of direction, which is why, which is why

485
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: you like him in the slot, so I think he

486
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: can mirror guys in the slot. He's five eleven one

487
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: nine three one interception. There's a sixteen or eighteen passes

488
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Speaker 1: defended this year. My chicken scratch is hard to read,

489
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: but he is a good, good football player, and I

490
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: wanted one at least one corner in this draft ball.

491
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: They have two corners that I think can start Day one,

492
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Speaker 1: and they get Julian Love and round four. It's unbelievab

493
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Speaker 1: when it's funny and this. See how closed out the

494
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: guys are upstairs, right we're in the cafeteria. I'm walking out.

495
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: I go up to Scott the guys can I throw

496
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Speaker 1: two names out at you, and I through to Kim

497
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Butler and they're like, oh, yeah, a player. And then

498
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: I threw Julian Love, same reaction, really casually. He's good

499
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: and they walked away. See you want to know why

500
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: we were surprised about these picks this year. No one's

501
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: saying anything. No one's saying anything that Julian loves the

502
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: hell of a football player. And I'm gonna tell you something, folks,

503
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: this is not span of propaganda. Okay. I have great

504
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: respect for the our lads, guards people. Dan Shank's gonna

505
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: come up with us later. And they graded him low

506
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Speaker 1: second round, borderline, top of the third round. The Giants

507
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: just got him at the top of the fourth round.

508
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, when Dave Gettleman says

509
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Speaker 1: he was the top player available on the board, that's

510
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Speaker 1: gonna be true. He was probably sticking out like a

511
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: sore thumb and they're probably saying to themselves, how did

512
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Speaker 1: he get to us? Hey, I'm Paul. I was talking

513
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: about him yesterday and around three He's legit. This guy's

514
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna play snaps and I'm sure he'll give him help

515
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: on special teams because he does get physical with people.

516
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: I'll get not afraid to have. I'll give you Dame

517
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Speaker 1: Brugler's take on him. They got two quarters who hit John.

518
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: He had Dame Brugler as the seventh ranked cornerback in

519
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Speaker 1: his draft class. He had a second round grade on

520
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: him too. I'll give you his summary. Three year starter,

521
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: played primarily in the boundary in their man heavy schemes,

522
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: move inside, and nickel among the FBS leaders and passes

523
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 1: defended each of the last two years, breaking the school

524
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Speaker 1: record with forty four career passes defended. Although his recovery

525
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: athleticism is a concern, he plays a balance boat work,

526
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: mirror routes, gain positioning to make plays with his elite

527
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: level ball skills, trust his eyes and instincts, and won't panic,

528
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: but his lack of length is evident. Verse large frame targets. Overall,

529
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: his lack of the ideal side speed and sunness will

530
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: be tougher to mask and NFL receivers, but his velvet feet, intelligence,

531
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Speaker 1: and ball skills are the type of traits worth betting on.

532
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Projecting best in the nickel Let's review, Dave Gettleman's comments

533
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: once again from last week deepest positions in the draft cornerback,

534
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, defensive back, offensive tackle, and wide receiver. Well,

535
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: you now know probably why he hasn't taken an offensive

536
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: tackle to this point, and you now also know why

537
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: he has taken two quarterbacks because he really believes the

538
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: secondary is deep, and he's gotten two guys with terrific

539
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: value at their spots. Look, we both of us want

540
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Speaker 1: to write tackles. Paul Julian loves a better football player

541
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Speaker 1: than the right tackles outright board. I don't doubt that.

542
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. Again, the problem becomes where you're

543
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: putting that knee component, and ultimately, I mean, look, I

544
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: brought up Love earlier, but I had to go for

545
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: the right tackle because I'm getting crazy about it. I'm

546
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: getting crazy about it. Um, you know, I have no

547
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: doubt that Love was the best player sticking up at

548
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: the top of the board this morning when they walked

549
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: into the room. I have no doubt about that. Good play.

550
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the phones at two, one, five,

551
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: one three. By the way, you hope to get Ocean

552
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Zimenez on at some point today to our PR departments

553
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: working on that. Let's go to Marcus and Oregon. He's

554
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: up next. Marcus, what's up, hey, thanks for taking thanks

555
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: for the show, thanks for calling, and Marcus, what's up? Hey? Um,

556
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: I just want to say I told you so about

557
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Chalons, but we're gonna put that behind us now. Hey, okay,

558
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: look Marcus, Marcus. By the way, Marcus, that's okay. He

559
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: called in on He called in on Thursday. I think

560
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: it was right Thursday, Marcus and said I think that

561
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going six and I said it's not

562
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and I was dead wrong. So there you go.

563
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you were totally right because we

564
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: had right there. But you know, we have other plans

565
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: and we're moving forward now absolutely and welcome to Big

566
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: Blue Juian Love. But that kid can definitely play a

567
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: lot like the two corners that we've taken so far

568
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: in the draft. Yes, Lawrence is a is a is

569
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: a great player. I think he's gonna really plug up

570
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: the holes, especially since we have a lot of threatening

571
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: running backs in our division. Uh. I'm really excited about Ziminez.

572
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: That was that was a heck of a pick um.

573
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: I I think that's someone that's gonna be able to

574
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: start playing right away. And that's want to kind of

575
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: get your opinion on him. There's no question he's gonna

576
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: get significant snaps. Dave Gettleman and Pat Shermer said last night, Uh,

577
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: he will be a potential three down back or out

578
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: of the gate. Obviously you got to see how uh

579
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, ready, maybe he is and they'll have to

580
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: work him out, but he's gonna be in the mix

581
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: to be a potential three down player. He will compete

582
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: for those snaps and that's that's a great thing because

583
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: you're getting him at the bottom of the third round.

584
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: And as John said and I agree, Love is gonna

585
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: get significant reps too. They're gonna come out of this draft. Okay,

586
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: think about this right now, They've made five picks so far,

587
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: and even though we would expect that the quarterback is

588
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna sit for at least a year or maybe even two.

589
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: The other four picks John are all gonna give them

590
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: snaps this season. That's good. In fact, it's better than good.

591
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: It's terrific. And if anybody tells you otherwise, they're blind. Exactly.

592
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I can't agree more. I mean, I looked at the film.

593
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: This kid can play. You don't need to be from

594
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: a big name school in order to be NFL already,

595
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you can you can tell this kid's venet already. Well,

596
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: what he will need to do is add some strength

597
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: so he can anchor better against the run. Okay, he

598
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: will need to do that, and and he will need

599
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: to work a little bit in coverage. I think we've

600
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: said that before. They're gonna have to know he can't

601
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: rush every single time he's in the game. Otherwise you're

602
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: you're telegraphing what he's gonna do. So we'll have to

603
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: do a little bit of that stuff. But as as

604
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Gettleman said last night, the fact that he's got a

605
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: variety of moves and counter moves in the pass rush,

606
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: that is a big advantage for him as opposed to

607
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who come into into the

608
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: pros from lesser, uh than power programs. They've got one move.

609
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: That's not the case with the X man. He's got

610
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. And then my last question is

611
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: when the heck are we going to take a tackle

612
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: on this track. It's going to be the next Thix.

613
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: John and I. John, you reminded me about last year.

614
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: We kept going round after round after round, and each

615
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: one of us had a tackle that we liked. You had, Jones,

616
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: I had Crossby. Both of them wound up going. Crosby

617
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks and Jones to the Lions. What harder

618
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: than Maybe I don't remember. They both wound up going,

619
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: but not to the Giants. I'll tell you what. The

620
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: last year, I like those players better at their selections.

621
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I thought the edge class was better last round, and

622
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: I thought Love was better than the offensive tackles on

623
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: the round this round too, So I think this year,

624
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: I think the Giants certainly made the right decisions. I

625
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: let knee creep into my pick there ten minutes by

626
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: the way Indianapolis and one on nine, and I appreciate

627
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: the call man. Thanks a lot of good stuff, Marcus

628
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: uh Khari Willison One on nine to the Colts who

629
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: traded with Oakland Safety Michigan State, and we have our

630
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: first special teams player off the board in one ten

631
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Mitch which new Ski to the Niners. Punt there out

632
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: of Utah. That's amazingly for a punt, it's amazing little

633
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: early and and to be honest, these kickers, as Jeff

634
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: Fiagles tells you, they have so much specialized training. You

635
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: know that there's there's usually a bunch of guys who

636
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: have a good enough leg to be kicking in the league.

637
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: You don't need to take a partner on the fourth round.

638
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: They must really like him. I guess, I guess they do.

639
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to our next caller, Larry, And I'm sorry

640
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: one I do, I do. I just wanted to let

641
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: people know in case they're they're at home and they

642
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: haven't gotten the full list. The Giant's next pick is

643
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: the fifth of the fifth round, which is number one

644
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: forty three, just so you know. And right now we

645
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: are in the ninth pick of the fourth round, so

646
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's quite a ways to go yet. Go ahead, John,

647
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Let's go Larry and Florida. He's down next. Hey Larry, Yeah,

648
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: do you guys see? Uh? By that time, a right

649
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: tackle being being available that they can you know, could

650
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: make a different Well, I mean it's it's it's a while.

651
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: It's getting thin now, you know it's getting thin. I mean,

652
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: I we we talked about Edwards and Prance. I don't

653
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: see them getting into the next round. So now you're

654
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: probably looking at you know, marches Ivy from Florida or

655
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Joshua Miles out of Morgan State, and an Eludo is

656
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: a project. By the way, He's not the guy you're

657
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna That's why they're in my mind, those guys were

658
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: reaches in the fourth. I think they're probably better value

659
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: in the fifth, but they are going to need work.

660
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: You're you're you're on the border line up that plug

661
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: and play guy who has the chance to win a

662
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: starting job. This it's it's it's really slim pickings now

663
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to wait a whole another round.

664
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really hard to do unless one of

665
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: these guys falls. If Edwards are Prince falls into the fifth. Now,

666
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: now I'd be shocked if they're not the best player

667
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: on the board. We'll see all this is around. You

668
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: never know, but they very well could be. Yeah, and

669
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: if and if not, do you see us possibly making

670
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: a trade for for a tackle, a veteran tackle. You mean,

671
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: they're pretty hard to come by on the market because

672
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: anybody who's any good is staying with his team, right. Yeah,

673
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a glamorous position, but it

674
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: sure is an important one. Yes, you guys were terrific

675
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: last night. I don't know how you did, especially with

676
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: your allergies. Man, oh man, I'm I'm I'm fighting through it,

677
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: but I'm getting there. Thank you, Larry. I appreciate that

678
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: You're You're welcome. You really you really were a trooper.

679
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thanks Larry, appreciate that. Glad you were able

680
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: to stick around with us. And I apologize hopefully that's

681
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: not going over the mike too much. I'm trying to

682
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: move it when I have to blow my notes, but

683
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing okay, okay, two five, one three.

684
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: Mark in Chicago is up next? Hey Mark, Hey guys,

685
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: football weather in Chicago. Three to five inches of snow tonight?

686
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: No way, is that true? God bless you. It's almost

687
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: may you can keep it, keep it. I don't want

688
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: to see any more of that stuff till next year.

689
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Look Paul almost has his handback. He can't be down

690
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: with any more. Snow. Very true. Um, this isn't the

691
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: reason why I call, but uh in playing GM on

692
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: the conversation that you just had, is there a way

693
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: for us to maybe trade up to the latter part

694
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: of the fourth or the earlier part of the fifth,

695
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: looking at the trade value chart and some of the

696
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: trades that have been going down, where we can start

697
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: the package in like in the seventh round choices. There

698
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: there were ways, But I want, I want to interw

699
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: up your one second, John, because Dave get him and

700
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: said last night that he's not inclined to do that.

701
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: He he he saw what was still on the board.

702
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: He said that there are a lot of players he

703
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: still likes. He specifically mentioned that there were tackles that

704
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: he still likes. He told us that last night. You

705
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: never get a GM give you any of those crumbs.

706
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: He told us that last night. And he also said,

707
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm not inclined to do anything at least with my

708
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: fours and my fives tomorrow. He didn't necessarily talk about

709
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: the six or sevens, but he did not sound like

710
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a guy who was anxious to move. So you know,

711
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: he's got two in the fifth, so I know one

712
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: that one is higher and the other one is lower.

713
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about number five in the fifth and number

714
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: thirty three in the fifth. He really sounded like he

715
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: wanted to make those picks. Okay, well, I'd like to

716
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: see us get a right tackle as everyone else. I know,

717
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: but I know, but but but but I swear it

718
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: to you. Julian Love is a terrific player. No, he is.

719
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: He really is more. He's a he's a you know me.

720
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't lie about it. He's a good player. You

721
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: will see snaps out of him immediately. I guarantee it. Well,

722
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of college football, but I

723
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: do watch Notre Dame, and I agree with your assessments. Um.

724
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to the quarterback thing. Yeah,

725
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: a minute. Um. Back in I think February March, I

726
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: called in. I said, if we see a franchise quarterback

727
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: we should take and then John you agreed with that. Um.

728
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know where you had Haskins rated in relation

729
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: to Jones. I would assume it was higher. I did, personally,

730
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, I had a Haskins ranked higher. Paul did

731
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: not Okay. I was driving around yesterday. I was listening

732
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: to the f AL radio and Bill Polian, who um, Paul,

733
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I know you really admires He said that he had

734
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Jones and Haskins grated the same. I could see that.

735
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: In About a minute later, one of the other hosts

736
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: came on and they looked at quarterbacks that were drafted

737
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: number fifteen or later on what their success rate was,

738
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: and fifteen year later had a nineteen percent successful career

739
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: the year two thousand. One of those was Joe Flacco.

740
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: So my question you, and it's a hypothetical, is okay,

741
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: if that's the and they had him ranked the same

742
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: and one goes at six and one goes at fifteen,

743
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: and the history is that fifteen and later don't have

744
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: successful careers. What do we really have? Do we have

745
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: a guy, two guys that should have successful careers, two

746
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: guys that that don't. I'd like to get your assessment

747
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: of that analysis. Thank you, Mare appreciate the call, and

748
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I will Julian Love in a couple of minutes. By

749
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: the way, we'll get them in the line right now.

750
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: The way I'll look at it is that, look, the

751
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: reason the guys picked at the top of the draft

752
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: have a higher hit rate. Is because teams feel stronger

753
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: about them, so they go up and they get them. Now,

754
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's a guaranteed success. But the question

755
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: is is the Giants scouting assessment of Daniel Jones correct.

756
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: If it is, it's gonna be a hit. If it's not,

757
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: then it's not. And we'll see whether or not that's

758
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: the case. We'll see if whether or not Dwayne Haskins

759
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he only played in college in one year,

760
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: which I think is one of the reasons Paul that

761
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: he felt a little bit people were worried about that.

762
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Was he a flash in the pan or was he

763
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: an ascending player and it was just a sign of

764
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: things to come. I think that it's kind of what

765
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: you're looking at in terms of separating the players. Here's

766
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: the other thing you have to keep in mind when

767
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: you grade a quarterback success. So much of it has

768
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: to do with the guys around him, the scheme, the talent,

769
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: what the coaching staff is doing with him. Uh, So

770
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: much is dependent upon other things. We always talk about

771
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: it's a team game. One man can't win or lose it.

772
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Too much emphasis is placed on the quarterback. So technically,

773
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: how do you rate a successful quarterback? You know? Is

774
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: it simply how many playoff appearances, how many championships he's won?

775
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: What is his overall one loss record? How do you

776
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: grade ten years down the road if the guy was

777
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: a success or not? It can be very misleading. I

778
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: mean it's hard. Is there so much affected by what's

779
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: around them that it's hard to figure out exactly. You know,

780
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: if you if Haskins and Jones switched places this year,

781
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: what do each numbers look like. I don't know the

782
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: answer to that. I'll give you the poster boy. Remember

783
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm a guy I light taskins more than Jones. So

784
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I'll give you a poster boy for a quarterback who

785
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: had tremendous respect, but his numbers are terrible and his

786
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: career record was terrible. Archie Manning. Yeah, good point. All right,

787
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: let's get to our guest. He's the giants most recent

788
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: draft pick, Julian Love at a Notre Dame. He was

789
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: the giants one eighth overall pick in the fourth round. Julian,

790
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: you have John Schmelk and Paul Detino in the Giants

791
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: practice facility in East Rutherford, New Jersey, congratulations and welcome

792
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: to Big Blue, my friend. Hello, Yeah, hello, Julian. Uh.

793
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful thrill to to to see you

794
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: drafted at this point because when you get a chance

795
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: to look at this program in the archive, if you do,

796
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: you will know that John and I have gloated over you.

797
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: We previewed you as the Giants were coming up as

798
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: a guy who was probably the top player available on

799
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: the board. And by the way, Julian I was saying

800
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: that back at the end of round three he was

801
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: even earlier than I was. Okay, So so for that reason,

802
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: we're really excited to see you. Uh. Please discuss for us,

803
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: if you will, the style of player. For those of

804
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: you who haven't seen you that you are. We've described

805
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you as being physical, being able to play inside and outside, uh,

806
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: cover skills so much to like, what do you want

807
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: people to know about your game? Yeah, I think you

808
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: kind of hit it on the head. I think you know,

809
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: being from the Big Last I take a lot of

810
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: pride in that UM and I play a very physical

811
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: brand of football. I don't shy away from many things.

812
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: UM and I take everything kind of head on, um

813
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: because that's how the game of football to be played. Um.

814
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: And so I'm athletic, I can play antie outside. I'm smart,

815
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: so you have to playbook down. Um. But then that

816
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: physical nature is kind of my bread and butter. That's

817
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: what I'm about, you know. Sorry, I just wanted to say,

818
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: building off the physical nature, I also think you're gonna

819
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: be a tremendous asset on special teams. How do you

820
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: feel about that? Yeah, I mean I love Let's see,

821
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: I played a lot of Notre Dame, UM, and at

822
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: the end of day, I just want to win. I

823
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: wanna see my team when I want to see the Giants,

824
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: and UM, some gonna do whatever it takes on any

825
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: special team. UM. And he presently put me at UM.

826
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of just what it takes to be

827
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: a competitor. I think it joy is funny watching your

828
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: tape this year. The first thing on my list was

829
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: not afraid to tackle. And you know, I think and

830
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: a lot of games you followed the other team's best

831
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: receiver around. What what part of that lends to the

832
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: mentality you need as a cornerback where you want to

833
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: follow that best receiver around to try to take that

834
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: guy out of the game. Yeah, I think you know,

835
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: I just goes to winning. I think, um, I knew

836
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: how to win every level of football, UM, and that

837
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: sometimes you've got to take the tough jobs to be successful.

838
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: And so I took that by myself to be successful.

839
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: Coach to put me in a great spot, UM, and

840
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: then I ran with it, UM. And that's all you

841
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: can ask for, you know, ask me, give me the opportunity,

842
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna share a round with it and succeed

843
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: and handle what you need to be handled. And a

844
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: lot of time too, you know you're trying to get

845
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: the receiver away from the best corner. They put him

846
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: in the slot. A lot of times outside cornerbacks they

847
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: don't want to move in there. But you accepted that

848
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: challenge to why do you think you're so successful inside

849
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: just as your successful outside? Right? I think you know

850
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: the game's obviously changing. Inside corner is very important. To

851
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: be smart, you needs to be very athletic. You needs

852
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: to be smart. I think, though, there are kind of

853
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: two of my main traits, UM four play inside. So

854
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: when you know a receiver outside with motion in trying

855
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: to throw off a defense, I could just follow him

856
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: just as easy because of you know my athleticism and

857
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: because uh, in my intelligence of the game. Giants Corner

858
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Julian Love from Notre Dame joining us here on Big

859
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: Blue Kick Off Live Julian. Dave Getleman, the Giants general manager,

860
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: mentioned last week that he thought secondary was one of

861
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: the three deepest positions in the draft. We saw a

862
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: run of corners go off the board last night, and

863
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: we just talked about how we thought you were just

864
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: sticking out like a sore thumb high on the board

865
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: right now here. Do you look at this as it

866
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: was such a deep draft for corners that Okay, hey,

867
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm drafting in the third round because they're just so

868
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: many good guys and obviously there's going to be a

869
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: friendly rivalry and competition between all you guys who are

870
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: drafted here. But do you also say to yourself, well,

871
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I should have been higher, and

872
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: some of these teams that missed me, I gotta have

873
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: a chip on my shoulder and show them that I

874
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: should have been taken higher. Yeah. I think, you know,

875
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: in this process is easy to kind of have that

876
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, that ladder, uh mindset that you just talked about.

877
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: But I really think success has to step deeper than

878
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of a chip on your shoulder

879
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: that um, the revenge in this sort of way. I

880
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: really am just grateful. I went into this process expecting

881
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: to go a little higher, but I I just want

882
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: to be on the football team. I grew up wanting

883
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: to play a football in the NFL, and what better

884
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: team than the Giants to showcase my dreams really, um,

885
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: And so going forward, I you know, I don't have

886
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: any presentment for you know, not getting picked early. I

887
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: would have liked to, but I'm gonna be successful just

888
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: off of my determination of my work. Um. And you know,

889
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I went in the right of everything is meant to be,

890
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Everything is meant to happen for a reason, and my

891
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: reason was being picked one the way to the New

892
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: York Giants. Now. I don't necessarily like to make pro

893
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: comparisons when guys are coming out of the n C

894
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Double a's right away, but all there's certain corners in

895
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: the pro game that you have paid particular attention to,

896
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: like their style, like their traits. Maybe it's a mixture

897
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: of guys that you said, hey, you know what, when

898
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm studying these guys, these are the kinds of things

899
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: that I want to be able to do when I

900
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: get to the NFL. Yeah, I think you know, growing

901
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: up Um, going up in Chicago, I idolized um a lot,

902
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Peanut Tillman Um for the Bears, Um because his I mean,

903
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't the most athletic guy, but he was smart

904
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: and he was tough, and he made a lot of

905
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: players because of those two trades. And then you have

906
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: guys you know, like I'm a giant. Do you know

907
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: what's Jenkins who been in the league for a long time,

908
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: because he's just a competitor. I think that's what I love.

909
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: Our feet off of that energy, Um of the older

910
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: guys who just compete and who are you know, not

911
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: holding anything back and find a way to succeed. Um,

912
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I love, you know. Julian Paul

913
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: mentioned how this cornerback class was deep, but I feel

914
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: like you looked at a lot of these guys. All right.

915
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: You see this guy in his own play, You see

916
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: this guy is a man player. This guy is a

917
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: press player. I saw you play press, I saw you

918
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: play off. I saw you play man, I saw you

919
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: play zone. Uh did what Notre Dame ask you to

920
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: do you think helped prepare you for a versatile role

921
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: for what you might be asked to do in the NFL.

922
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: I had like three de coordinators and an intern decordinators

923
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: four total, um three years that indeed, um, and each

924
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: one kind of like a little uh, I let something

925
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: with me. You know, you learned from each and everyone

926
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: styled different out Some we're more strict on what they

927
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: wanted you to play, something from more lenient where you

928
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: can be more free. Um. And just leaving that at

929
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the time, I thought I would say I'm a man

930
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: another one, but it always thought because now my football

931
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: intelleges is higher because I've had different styles of coaching um.

932
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I like to say I can do

933
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: it all, um, because you know I've been prepped to

934
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I've I've had to um and you know I've been

935
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: throwing the fire in a sense. Alright, final question for me, Julian,

936
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: if there's one thing that you'd like the New York

937
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Giants fans to know about you as you get here

938
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: to East Rutherford, New Jersey that they can't read in

939
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: some draft preview book and they can't see on some

940
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: Notre Dame highlight tapes. What would that be. I think

941
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: I put my heart into it. Um. I'm not a

942
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: flashy guy by any means. I'm just you know, hard worker, um,

943
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: who likes to go in and get the job done. Um.

944
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm real close to my family. UM and soon and now,

945
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: really the giant orcunization is my family. And so I

946
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: took a lot of part of that. And you'll only

947
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: see and hear good stuff coming from me. Um, So

948
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: to be ready. It's gonna be a fun right final

949
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: one for me. You guys, spend time thing to join

950
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: this process. Give me your little scattering report on DeAndre Baker,

951
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: who's gonna be your teammate this year for the Giants.

952
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: Another cornerback this year. Yeah, Drey, he's Uh. He's a

953
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: really good dude. He's funny, he has a great sut

954
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: of style. We look at each other at the College

955
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: Football Awards, um, at the Walter Camp Awards. Uh. And

956
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: he's a great dude. I mean he's competitor. I think

957
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: all people slept on him too, um, because he competes

958
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: and he's shown that he could beat the film doesn't lie. Um.

959
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I know he's big to say that, but it doesn't.

960
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, people win his team one, My team one, um,

961
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: and you can't ask for better. And so I'm excited

962
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: to compete with him. UM and young Bill little Robberry

963
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: going to make each other better. I think that's the goal.

964
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: And Dexter Lawrence's team you won. By the way, though,

965
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: I would say just not getting into a bench press

966
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: competition with him, that was probably a bad idea. Julian

967
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: is outstanding. To have you here. We're excited to meet

968
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: you and certainly best of luck. Now if you remember

969
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the Giants, thank you. We look forward to seeing you

970
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: and Recommitticamp next weekend. Thank you. Man perfect. That's Julian

971
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: Love cornerback Notre Dame. What a wow. I'm even more

972
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: impressed than I was before talked to him. Yeah, and

973
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: and again John, the corner class is deep and so

974
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: just to understand, he's got a fourth round tag on him. Uh,

975
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: that does not indicate the ability that this guy brings

976
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: to the table. He is a really good player, really

977
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: good player, and you heard him. He's he's not. It's funny.

978
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, people were really surprised, and I'm rightfully so.

979
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: I think that Gritty Williams was the you know, seventh

980
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: cornerback off the board, Gritty Williams is a cornerback. Bryce

981
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: loves Julian Love. Excuse me football exactly. It took the

982
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: words right out of my math and again not saying

983
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: that Green Williams isn't gonna be a really really really

984
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: really good cover corner. He's going to be. He's a

985
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: hellish football player. Length I get it. Much like in

986
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the same way Daniel Jones checks all your boxes. This

987
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: guy checks all your boxes at cornerback. He might not be,

988
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, elite level speed, elite level this athleticism, and

989
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: he said it a couple of times. He goes, look,

990
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm not the best athlete in the world, but I

991
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: know how to play, and he checks all those boxes.

992
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: Reminds me. And by the way, I hate to get

993
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: so excited over a fourth round pick, because you know

994
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: what do I always say day three picks or bonuses

995
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: if they work out. I'm pestimistic about this stuff. But

996
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: the guys I had a second round grade on him.

997
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: I had him as a plug in place starter. I

998
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: said it during the process. I'm not making this up.

999
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: If you listen to the show, you know that I

1000
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: like Julian Love as a player. I think they got.

1001
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I think he's looking the Giants picks him is ahead

1002
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: of him because I think Edge was probably you know,

1003
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: a bigger need in Their grades are probably similar, right.

1004
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: I had Love as a higher ranked player then Zimmenez

1005
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: on my overall big board because I'm more confident you

1006
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: can plug in and play every single down for you

1007
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: on defense, He's a he's a heck of a football player.

1008
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of people did. But again,

1009
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about a very deep position, which is why

1010
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: a guy would fall to that point. You know what

1011
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Absolutely all right too. On three, let's go

1012
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: to Charlie and Portland, Maine. Who's up next, Charlie? How

1013
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: are you, buddy? Good to hear from you again? Hello, Charlie.

1014
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Charlie going once, Charlie going twice. Alright, we'll say goodbye

1015
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: to Charlie. Charlie call us back. Well, that's the best

1016
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: thing that happened to us all show today so far.

1017
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chay in Japan. Line four. Joe, I

1018
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: don't want Jay to get his phone bill up on

1019
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: us here? Joe, what's going on? Did I kick Charlie

1020
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: off the line? Because my pages got better? Too. Oh my,

1021
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jay, what's up? Hey, guys? Um what that

1022
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: kid just said just now that he's not worried about

1023
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: being drafted later, that's what he thought he would have been.

1024
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: That speaks volumes, speaks volumes. Um. I slept on the pick,

1025
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the the Jones pick. I get it. Um. From what

1026
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: the reports are saying, there are a lot of other

1027
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: teams that had higher grades on him. They would have

1028
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: probably jumped Broncos traded back to get their quarterback. Um,

1029
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, Haskins sell to the Redskins and look at

1030
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins did. So I think with the Giants

1031
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: did at six made sense. If you have your great

1032
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: on this guy, you take him right then and there.

1033
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing in Jay, the bottom line. And I

1034
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: get if people disagree with the player. I don't think

1035
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: you can disagree with the strategy because, like you said,

1036
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: if you believe in him, you gotta make sure you

1037
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: get him and we'll find out what happens when he

1038
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: plays exactly exactly. So my my main question is offensive tackles.

1039
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know who's on the board is priced

1040
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: on yet or you're still there, Prince? You mean, and

1041
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: so is David Edwards, Okay, any chance that they fall

1042
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: to us in the Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean, look,

1043
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: the draft is unpredictable. You never know in the third

1044
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: day what players are gonna drop, what players are gonna go.

1045
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: You just don't know. And Edwards, remember he's injury issues

1046
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: too coming out, so who knows what teams taking him medically?

1047
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's possible for sure. Absolutely, Okay.

1048
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: And if we don't draft one of these guys, who

1049
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: do you guys think? Who do you guys like as

1050
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: a non drafted free agents or or as free agents

1051
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: in general? I'll take that off the line thinks that's

1052
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: too far down the j I wouldn't. I appreciate it.

1053
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: It's a good question, and and and thanks a lot

1054
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: for the call. But I can't talk about priority free

1055
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: agents right now. It's it's too late. I mean, we

1056
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: have more than about a hundred picks left before we

1057
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: get the priority free agents, So right now we just

1058
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: be kind of blindly throwing darts at the board, you

1059
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Sure, Now, by the way, we

1060
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: have seen a bunch of guys come off the board

1061
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: since uh, since uh the Notre Dame guy. So Uh,

1062
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: let's we we have Justice Hill. Let's see Justice Hill.

1063
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Let's see just trying to go over the list as

1064
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: we're looking at it. So carry Willis the safety goes

1065
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: to the Colts. After Julian Loved to the Giants. We

1066
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: talked about Wowski, Kendall Sheffield corner, Ohio State to the Falcons,

1067
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: Bryce Love running back, Stanford to the Redskins. Uh, Panthers here,

1068
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Jomanti Cocker's safety to iwa, do we mentioned that Christian

1069
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: Miller edge Alabama Panthers, Austin Bryant defensive and Clemson to

1070
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: the Lions and uh uh hij Frohole to the guard

1071
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: to Arkansas to the Patriots. So that wraps up this

1072
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: particular round. Yeah, and look, these are a lot of

1073
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: the good players I had left on the board, Miller, Samia, Hooker,

1074
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good players that are going on

1075
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: my screens. Very confusing. They're going to number seventeen in

1076
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: this round. I'm sorry, I'm just get a little discombulator

1077
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: there at the seventick. Cleveland's on the board the last

1078
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: fro Hall, Austin Brian and Money Hooker. Christian Miller, drew

1079
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: Samia with the players and Bryce Love went to the Redskins,

1080
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: by the way, who I think is a good pick

1081
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: at this point if he gets healthy, could be good

1082
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: running back from Stanford. He went to Washington to pair

1083
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: with the running back at LSU they took last year

1084
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: whose name is escaping me at the moment. Help me

1085
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: out the LSU running back last year. Yeah, Garius, guys,

1086
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. Before we get back to the cold,

1087
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: do we have a guest on the line. We'll have

1088
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: and Shank in about two minutes quick. Can I do

1089
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: this real fast, John, Folks, I want you to understand something.

1090
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: Look at what the Giants have done with their last

1091
00:54:53,360 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: four picks. Okay, Snacks replaced by Lawrence Vernon, replaced by

1092
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: x Man, Apple replaced by Baker Web replaced by Love. Wow.

1093
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: Think about that for just a second. They've gotten value

1094
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: and they've also gotten need, replacing four veterans who have

1095
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: been eliminated from the roster over the last five or

1096
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: six months. And as part of the O b J trade,

1097
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: they got Peppers to replace the free agent and Collins.

1098
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Every single one of their guys is a perfect fit

1099
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: to a vacant spot that was left by a veteran.

1100
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: The only think about that, Who expect Zimenez to replace Vernon?

1101
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying it's the slot, it's the spot,

1102
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: it's the box on the roster. I'm not saying he's

1103
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: the same player. But bless you, certainly anybody who wants

1104
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: to complain about need can't because they have fit boxes

1105
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: with bodies, every one of the every one of the

1106
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: empty boxes. It's fit. And let me just say this

1107
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: to you, it's now complete. We now know in the

1108
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: Vernon O b J trade to the Browns, we now

1109
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: know what the Giants came back with. They came back

1110
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: with Peppers, they came back with Lawrence, they came back

1111
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: with x Man at linebacker, and and by re flopping

1112
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth that was originally going to Cleveland

1113
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: in the trade with Vernon. When they reversed that part

1114
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: of it in the O b J trade, part of

1115
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: that wound up going to Seattle in the trade to

1116
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: acquire DeAndre Baker. So think about that hole. That's pretty incredible. Peppers, Lawrence,

1117
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: x Man, and partially Baker come back in the Hall

1118
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: in the Cleveland trade for Vernon and O b J.

1119
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: That's the ultimate final analysis. In terms of balancing the scales.

1120
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: What did they get, what did they give up? That's

1121
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: what it is. Think about that moving forward now as

1122
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: you try to figure out if the Giants did real

1123
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: well in the ensuing years. That's what you have to do.

1124
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Pepper's Lawrence x Man And in reality, they may not

1125
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: have been able to get Baker had they not been

1126
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: able to reverse that deal with Cleveland by moving up

1127
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: twenty something spots. Absolutely, we're gonna have Dan Shaco back

1128
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: in the second way to Small Ashoe with the phone

1129
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: that we were trying to get fixed there. But um,

1130
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: we will have him. In just a second, the Seahawks

1131
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: at one twenty are about to make their selection. Let

1132
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: me update the guys that who have uh just gone

1133
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: in recent picks. You had Sheldric red Wine to the

1134
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Browns that pick seventeen in the round. That was one

1135
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: nineteen overall, So that's the last pick that went. And

1136
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: then we have Dan Chanko with us, and in just

1137
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: a second he'll kind of break down what the Giants

1138
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: have done, and then he will also kind of look

1139
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: ahead for us and see what guys might be available

1140
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: and around number five, So the Giants are up next.

1141
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: At onetree, John and one twenties on the clock right now,

1142
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: twenty three picks. So we'll have Shatka in the meantime

1143
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: to try to give us some of his analysis, and

1144
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: then we'll Rob Rang at two to kind of give

1145
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: us a what um what he thinks that Giants are

1146
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna do then, So we got a couple of good

1147
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: guests coming up, we'll do that. Gary Jennings, wide receiver,

1148
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: West Virginia, off the ball, off the board, excuse me,

1149
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks at eighteen in the round, and

1150
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: that is pick um one eighteen overall, one twenty overall.

1151
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Part of me. There's been so many trades here that

1152
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on. So Prince and Edwards

1153
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: the two best right tackle options on our board. Our board.

1154
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Now that's John and my boards. That's not the ones upstairs. Uh,

1155
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 1: Edwards and Prince are still there. And that's that's really good.

1156
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: That's really good if if if you are in search

1157
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: of a right tackle and you're the Giants. As we

1158
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: proceed to go through the bottom of the fourth round,

1159
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: Shedrick RedWine safety out of Miami goes to Cleveland at seventeen.

1160
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Gary Jennings wide receiver West Virginia to the Seattle Seahawks

1161
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: in the eighteen spot. And that brings up the New

1162
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: York Jets, who already is John mentioned last night. And

1163
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make fun of anybody, but the

1164
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: Jets have taken two players that have some reported off

1165
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: the field baggage. This is gonna be an important pick

1166
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: for them. You would think they'd want to definitely pick

1167
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: a clean player here at number nineteen in the round.

1168
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: In the meantime, a couple other receivers I will just mention, uh,

1169
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: Kelvin Horman and Anthony Ratliffe Williams were two other receivers John,

1170
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: that I would have been looking at at some point, uh,

1171
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: potentially in the fifth round here today. But I think

1172
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: we've got our guest. We do. That's Dan Shanka, our

1173
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: guy from Marylands. He's kind of us to give us

1174
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: ten minutes on a very busy Saturday for him as

1175
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: he sees all the players. You have the hard work

1176
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: scouting over the past couple of months. Go off the board. Dan,

1177
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: you got John Schmolkin, Paul to Tino here in NEAs

1178
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: weather for New Jersey. Good afternoon. It continues Hello, Dan, Hello,

1179
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. And we've been really opining

1180
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: about how well the Giants have done value and need

1181
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: wise over the last twenty four hours. They get the

1182
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: X Man, the pass rushing from Old Dominion. Last night,

1183
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,959
Speaker 1: they get Julian loved the corner out of Notre Dame. Today.

1184
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: You're free to disagree with us if you'd like, but

1185
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: we're giving these picks thumbs up. No, I call you

1186
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: what I think that. Um, you have every right too,

1187
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: because a good fits I mean, you know, Love has been,

1188
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, one of our top corners. So we liked him.

1189
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: And then uh big X there Shane x Uh he

1190
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: is a fit there at that Sam linebacker for the Giants. So, um,

1191
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, I can't argue. I can't argue that. I

1192
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: think that those are both good picks. Then I want

1193
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: to go zim Inez first. And he's a guy that

1194
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: watching him on tape before I got the mobile the

1195
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, I was really impressed, but obviously it will dominion.

1196
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: You think about the competition, right, And I was a

1197
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: little disappointed at the Senior Bowl. I didn't see him

1198
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 1: win a ton, but I know some teams don't worry

1199
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: about that. They will not, you know, take a player

1200
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: dad on the boards because of that post postseason stuff.

1201
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: They only raised them up as a scout. How do

1202
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: you treat a thing like the Senior Bowl for a

1203
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: player like him who's coming from a smaller program and

1204
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: is then going up against bigger school guys for the

1205
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: first time, just as a piece of the puzzle. You know,

1206
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: there's no there's no um. You know, well, you don't

1207
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: move up or down, although you'd like to see him,

1208
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: uh step up against and and that's really the only

1209
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: sticky wicked that I see is that you know, he

1210
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: played against small level petitions for productive a small level

1211
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: of competition and um. But but his performance at the

1212
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Senior Ball, to me, it was just, uh, you know,

1213
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: a slice of the pie. Okay, And you have to

1214
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: look at this whole career and he is a high

1215
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: effort guy and uh so usually he can't go wrong

1216
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: with those kind of guys. At worst, you know, would

1217
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: be a practice squad guy. Let's go back and and

1218
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: go just a tad further into the end of the

1219
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: first round. Dan, we haven't had a chance to talk

1220
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: to you in the last two days. But I also

1221
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: thought moving up to grab DeAndre Baker at the bottom

1222
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: of the first round was a really shrewd move. The

1223
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: first quarner who went off the board, as a matter

1224
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: of fact, the only first round there. Dan, I thought

1225
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: the Giants did well with that one too. Yeah. Well,

1226
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He was our our our third

1227
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: rated corner. I mean, we had a cover corner Williams,

1228
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, up there, and then we really like Murphy

1229
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: from Washington, who was the first pick, you know, in

1230
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: the fourth of of a second day there. Yeah, first

1231
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: pick of the second day or excuse me, yeah, the

1232
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: second day. He was the first in the second day.

1233
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: But but you know, Baker was one of our top

1234
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: three corners. And no, I can't argue that because, hey,

1235
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: the Giants the corner he stepped up there and grabbed him,

1236
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: and uh he is. He's one of the best cover

1237
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: corners in this draft and physical guy. So no, he'll

1238
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: fit in good there. All right, So I guess we

1239
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: should hit the lead. Your thoughts on Daniel Jones, who

1240
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: has picked at six. I know a lot of people

1241
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: were surprised by what were your thoughts? I overdrafted. I

1242
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I think they could have went in

1243
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: a different direction and got Uh you know, if they

1244
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: wanted Jones, I could have got him later, then you

1245
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got Dexter. But he's not the sixth pick

1246
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. He's not a gold jacket guy. And uh,

1247
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: he's developmental quarterback who I gave a second round grade too,

1248
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: And stand by that sucking around grade. What do you

1249
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: think he's really good at it? And where do you

1250
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: think he needs to develop? Like you just mentioned, well,

1251
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: I think he can't. He can't when you're playing in

1252
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: New York, you better be able to throw the ball

1253
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: down the field with the weather and everything. And he's

1254
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: not a verd I mean, I mean he's not a

1255
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: vertical passer. You know, everything sideline the sideline all the time.

1256
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: He does throw once a while down the field, but

1257
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: his completion percentage down the field is like you know,

1258
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: and uh, he's a smart guy. He stands in the pocket. Well,

1259
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: he's got some athletic ability, um, you know, but he's

1260
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: got he's got a lot of things to work on.

1261
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: And I think that when you're picking six, you better

1262
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Speaker 1: pick a superstar and I just don't see that on him.

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Speaker 1: Dan Shanka from Our Lads Guy joining us here on

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live, Dan, I know you don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time, so I might as well just

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01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: move it forward to what the Giants need to do.

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: Now they've got two fifth round picks. Will forget about

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: the six and seven. It's too far ahead to project.

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: But in the fifth round, if you try to match

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: need with value of the offensive tackles on the board.

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01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman's himself he thought that was one of the

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Speaker 1: three beefiest positions and thickest positions in the draft. How

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01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: would you feel about them grabbing David Edwards and then

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: maybe as a fallback Isaiah Prince or is there someone

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: else there who is a better fit for that slot. Well,

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01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: if they could grab Prince, that'd be a great value,

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01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, in the fifth round in my opinion, Uh,

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: that absolutely be you know, a strong and and uh

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Speaker 1: also no, I don't know who's coming off the board

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Speaker 1: right now, but uh, they've got you know another uh

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Speaker 1: oh you do from Elon is another guy that's a big,

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01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: strong guy. Could get worse. Those guys can kick inside

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: the guard, you know what I mean. You can graft

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: him and work him at tackle, but they they can

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: move inside a guard and there's and then there's another

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: group of those guys like Paul had Dams from Missouri

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: or Barton Cody Barton's brothers already drafted from Utah Um

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: and then uh Ryan Pope from San Diego State and

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: Miles from Morgan State. There in Maryland there's there's some big,

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: long range eyes that could be taken even in the

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Speaker 1: sixth round. Now you didn't you didn't you? You don't

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Speaker 1: like David Edwards? I mentioned him. You skipped over him?

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Is he not somebody like? No? I love, yes, love

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: David Edwards. Hey, big zon vockey tackle. Uh Well, In fact,

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01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: I gave him a late second round grade. So if

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Speaker 1: he goes in the fifth, that's a value, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Those Wisconsin guys I

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: always stick in the second, third round. They don't go

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01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: un to fourth or fifth, and then they have starting

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell people are looking at,

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: but anyway, they get good values on them. I think

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01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: the Giants could try to find a wide receiver, a

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: bigger guy in the final few rounds of this draft. Dan,

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good players left at

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: that position. Who do you like at that spot that's

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01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: left that could be photographer the Giants in a late

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: round five, early round six. Well, i'll tell you, um,

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: you know if they're they're like live from Mississippi. He's

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Speaker 1: the third guy there. And then uh Johnson, Anthony Johnson

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: from Buffalo. He's a big and then he even and

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: even in Syracuse Jamal custis here. This guy he he

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01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: also plays uh gunner um, you know, on the punt team.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: And he's six five and changed. You know, he had

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: an injury history until this year and then he was outstanding.

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: He can and he can really run. So he's a

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: big guy now I'm free from Texas. Is big, but

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: he can't run fast. That's his problem. And then you

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: got Butler from Northern Arizona who was injury a year ago.

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: Didn't have a quarterback this year, but it's really a

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: good receiver. So somebody doing their scouting will be jumping

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Speaker 1: all over him. Final final thing for form for me, Dan,

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: is there one really huge surprise that you have seen,

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: either positively or negatively as we go through this third

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01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: day of the draft. On the third day, no, because

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I see a lot of third uh you know guys

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: that would go in the third round going in this

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: you know in in the fourth round because of the

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: death or even sucker round. Guys, I mean, these are

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01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: good values teams are getting right now. So uh no,

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: I I think you know you're getting a bunch of

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: steals right now. There's no question about it. I don't

1332
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: think you know there was anybody that um that you know,

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: I would I would disagree with, to be honest with you,

1334
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm if I with a taking, but you know he's

1335
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: not a big fan of the putters. Guys are like golfers.

1336
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: On one round, they're pretty good. In next round, hit it,

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: hit it in the weeds, Dan, final one for me

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: as we hit these last couple rounds, what position group

1339
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: do you have the most depth? Still sitting there on

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: the board for you running back, wide receiver, linebacker, and cornerback. Awesome, Dan,

1341
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: good stuff. We appreciate you help this that all year

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: and live on draft day. We know you're busy. We'll

1343
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: talk to you down the road, all right, Thank you

1344
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: so much. Dan, Dan Chako from Oarrow Lads does a

1345
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: great job and he joins us throughout the year. So

1346
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,480
Speaker 1: excellent work is only we we have our usual suspects

1347
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: of favorite Draft Nick people, John and uh, you know,

1348
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to them every year for participating. Dance

1349
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: a former NFL scout too, So oh yeah, I mean

1350
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not know that. Really, there

1351
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: are people that might not know who Dan Dan. Dan's

1352
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: a dinosaur like me and I I love dinosaurs who

1353
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: have been around this game for decades after decades, and uh,

1354
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: and Dan's just awesome as is. Brian brought us too.

1355
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: We were glad lucky enough to finally get on the

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: show this year. Yeah, and he was finally allowed to

1357
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: And Brian's a guy that does basically exactly what we're

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 1: doing down. They were Dallas right now. They did a

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: live shows Thursday Friday, and they go through all seven

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01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: rounds today because him and Dane brugl Aron together and

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Dane's one of our guys too that comes on with us.

1362
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: So um, just they do a great job covering the

1363
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: draft um much like we do up here. So we

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01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: appreciate the guys joining us. Will Rick, Sarah Tella coming

1365
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: your way at two. We're still working on Ocehane Zimmenez

1366
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: will try to grab him at some point during the

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: show today. Stay tuned. Let's go to Tony in Atlantic City.

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: He's up next day, Tony. Hey, guys, great, what's up?

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01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just want to talk to you about

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks taken this year, and if you incorporate Sam

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: Beetle was taken last year, for which of course, they

1372
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: lost their third round choice. This year, there's three quarterbacks

1373
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: and one of which is not being talked about very much,

1374
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: that being Sam Bill. Do you think in any way

1375
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: the Giants have injury concerns about him recovering from the

1376
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery or I know that. You mean all the

1377
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that you can possibly get in today's game. What's

1378
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: your what's your outlook on on what's transpired? I think

1379
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: you can't have enough corner So I would not take

1380
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: their drafting of two corners in this draft as a

1381
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: sign that they do not have faith in him. Um.

1382
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: I think they expect him to be a full goal

1383
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: for the offseason program as it gets going here. So no,

1384
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: I would not take that as a sign that they

1385
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: have lost faith in Sam Bille. I just think they

1386
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: want as much competition as possible and quite frankly, just

1387
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: to be smart. Don't you have to cover your butt

1388
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: when you get a chance to and we know that

1389
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: Sam Beale, it's public knowledge. He had a separated shoulder

1390
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,440
Speaker 1: in college. He didn't get to get to the Giants

1391
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: and the dislocation comes out again and he had to

1392
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: have a procedure and how to end a year on

1393
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: injured reserve. I mean, he's not a clean medically, you know,

1394
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: golden player. He's he is albeit a legit prospect, and

1395
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: we know that the Giants know that. At the same time,

1396
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: he has had some injury history, so I don't think

1397
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: there's extra concern. But you'd be whistling past the graveyard

1398
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: if you thought that he was perfectly clean without any

1399
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: medical question. And look, you're gonna carry five or six

1400
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: cornerbacks on your roster right now, you feel pretty good

1401
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: that Jenkins obviously Lovin Baker, the two draft picks, Grant Haley,

1402
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: who was a starter in the sloppy last year, and

1403
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Beal are gonna be five or your six guys. Maybe

1404
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: they only carry five and is those five, but they

1405
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: are five or six guys, and then they feel pretty

1406
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: good about him. And cornerback is just as an important

1407
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: position as edge rusher. It really is. You need to

1408
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: have good corners in this league to succeed, and the

1409
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: Giants are trying to stockpile at that position, and there's

1410
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that and all, by the way, the

1411
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: Giants is still trying to build their pass rush. And

1412
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: if they can't build the pass rush to be as

1413
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: good as they wanted to, they better be strong in

1414
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: the I can hey appreciate the call. I want to

1415
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: update it. Since we last spoke on the draft, Um,

1416
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: we had. Let's see Gary Jennings at eighteen, Trayvon westco

1417
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: nineteen to the Jets. This is nineteen overall in the round,

1418
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: by the way, UH, then the Steelers at one two overall.

1419
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Select did Betty Snell running back out of Kentucky he

1420
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: can work with? Uh, the kid out of Pittsburgh that

1421
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: replaced Levian Bell up there, Ben Powers guard out of Oklahoma.

1422
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: And then Seattle Phil Haines, guard out of Wake Forest.

1423
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: And then the Bengals just big defensive tackle Reynald Wren

1424
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: who was one of the better players left in my opinion.

1425
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: And then Riley Ridley goes to the Bears at twenty four,

1426
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: certainly one of the best wide receivers left. Brother to

1427
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley who plays for the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah, you know,

1428
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't as impressed with him as I was with

1429
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: his brother one year starter raw I wrote down inconsistent

1430
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: and shoes with his motor. His brothers seems to be

1431
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: a much more serious football player than he does, and

1432
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: I understand why why he has dropped. But again, nonetheless,

1433
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers coming off the board here as

1434
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: we are in the sweet spot for that position. Well,

1435
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: Riley really is big prom wars testing numbers two. He

1436
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: did not test well at the combine. I think he

1437
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: ran almost the four six, which for a wide receiver

1438
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: is not what you're looking for obviously. But he's a

1439
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: good rat runner, though he's not quite as good as

1440
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: his brother. But he's a good rat runner, but he

1441
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: just lacks I think. I don't think he's as good

1442
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: as an athlete. So this will be the run. Though

1443
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: John Butlers started the round, then they didn't take another receiver.

1444
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: Did the NFL teams until this one. This is where

1445
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: the sweet spot is. Gary Jennings was in there too,

1446
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: he went to forgot. So those are the three in

1447
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: the round. But there's there's gonna be a run here now.

1448
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: I think receivers he could be right. This whole bunch

1449
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: of guys left that can play to Keylan DAWs Is

1450
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: and nothing guy that I like. If you want a

1451
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: bigger wide receiver, UM, I like Corey Hart to um.

1452
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: Not Corey Hard. He's the outfielder for the Brewers. Hard Hard.

1453
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: He was an eighties pop singer, wasn't he? Penny Hart?

1454
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: Who the slot receiver that was at the Senior Both

1455
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: all the names are starting to come together. Folks, spen

1456
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: a long three days two one nine four or five

1457
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 1: one three. Let's go back to the phones, and we

1458
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: still had all four calls lit up. Thank you, folks.

1459
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: Brandon in New Jersey's up next is all brought to

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Speaker 1: you by cores Light. Download the cores Light wards app

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,799
Speaker 1: to an amazing Giants Prizes. Brandon, you're up a Randy,

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: I said, Randy, Not Brandon. Okay, Randy, Well then you're up.

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01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: Sorry about that? How you do it? And we're great?

1464
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: What's going on? Great man? First of all, first of

1465
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: let's let's tell it like it is. You guys are

1466
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: the best, not the second best, not the third best,

1467
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: and they're not yet the end. You're not milk Keiper.

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: You guys are the best, and then thinks you're not

1469
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: the best, does not listen to sports radio because you

1470
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: guys are the best. Where do I send the check? Randy,

1471
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: You're very kind? Almost two times, we're not quite a

1472
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: million other Giant fans waiting for the linebacker With one.

1473
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 1: I wanted sweat the second one. I wanted to trade

1474
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: the number two for rows, and I wanted just like

1475
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: nine percent of Giants fans that didn't get what they wanted. Alright, fine,

1476
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: we didn't get what we wanted. Now that after I

1477
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: was annoyed, I went on Giants dot com and went

1478
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: the highlights of the guys the Giants did draft. These

1479
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: highlights are unbelievable. That defensive cackle is like a cat.

1480
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks throw the ball the money every time. These

1481
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: players are big, they're fast, they're strong. Now, I know

1482
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: it's the highlight film, but I looked at these guys.

1483
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't be more happy. I can't be happier those

1484
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: high and these guys are tremendous players. And anybody thinks

1485
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: they're not, just go on their highlight films or Giants

1486
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: dot Com and you'll see how tremendous all these players are. Well,

1487
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: if you really want to get yourself even more pumped up.

1488
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Think of this. The Giants had some troubles on defense

1489
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 1: last year, and they've now drafted four consecutive defensive players

1490
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: who will all see significant playing time and three could start.

1491
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: Three start right. And anybody who's not optimistic, we don't

1492
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: want you. Do you want to lead Giant Nation? Goodbye

1493
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: and good luck. Go somewhere else. We want optimists, we

1494
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: want positive people. We are going to be in the

1495
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: Big Dance next year, and that's the end. We're gonna

1496
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: be there every year. And anybody else thinks we're not,

1497
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: we don't want you anymore. The Giant Nation. We're going

1498
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: all the way. I get the feeling you'd like to

1499
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: build a wall around the Giant border to keep all

1500
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: of them out. Yes, sure, we're coming. Me to run

1501
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: the wall, runs the roll right now. The coach put

1502
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: me in there. Thank you, Randy, have a great day.

1503
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: Was that a relative? I have no idea where he

1504
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: was coming from. No, I don't where he was coming

1505
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: to you with you, that's you. If you didn't work

1506
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: in the business, that's you. That's who that was. That

1507
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: is the North Carolina version of Paula Tino. He probably

1508
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: a big bull of posta in front him as he

1509
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: made the call. I think he lives in a nuclear

1510
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: react to that guy, they might be powering the nuclear

1511
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: react they're just running in a certainly smokes love it.

1512
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: Somebody actually out doing me on the energy. That's incredible,

1513
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: it really is. Imon Marshall, cornerback out of USC, one

1514
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: of the better players left at that position, goes to Baltimore.

1515
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, running back from Memphis, goes to the Dallas

1516
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: Cowboys looking for a backup for Ezekila Elliott. Apparently, yeah,

1517
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: And here here we are, John. We're at pick number

1518
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: one eight. Uh, Giants are gonna be at number um

1519
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: one forty three. So we're another fifteen away. And both

1520
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: of those tackles Edwards and Prince, who according to Dan Shaka,

1521
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: will be terrific value in the fifth round, is still there,

1522
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: and we're about twelve selections away. Right one they trade

1523
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: they so there are fourteen picks away from the picks selection.

1524
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see if if at least one of

1525
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: those two guys can fall. Did you look at Tony Pollard.

1526
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't know much about Tony. Apparently not. Apparently he

1527
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: had a forty yard kick return average. That's pretty good.

1528
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: I did not look at him. I did not look

1529
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 1: at Tony Pollard either. I have red shirt junior listed

1530
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: on the list, but I did not look at him.

1531
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: After you know, we we like to track what the

1532
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: other teams in the division are doing. Uh, and just

1533
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins have actually done a pretty good

1534
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: job in this draft so far. And I think the

1535
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: Eagles have had a couple of nice picks too, to

1536
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you. So it's been a good weekend

1537
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: for the NFC East. Yeah, I agree to four five

1538
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: one three. Let's go back to the phones and say

1539
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: what up to Dennis in North Carolina? What's up? Dennis? Hey?

1540
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: Thank what's going on? I know he watched the same

1541
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: thing that I watched live in one I mean the

1542
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy I think was I can't remember to hear

1543
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,440
Speaker 1: Sims was drafted and the commissioner laughed when he introduced

1544
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: his name and the college he was from. Now, I

1545
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: was wondering if Phil students ever sent him a picture

1546
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: of him with sim of Boll Trophy. Well, anyway, Uh,

1547
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: just like these talking heads did. I watched them on

1548
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: the NFL station when they that was the Giants at

1549
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: number six picks this year, they won't. We're rolling on

1550
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: the ground laughing, and I just think that's, you know,

1551
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: the number one in port taste, but number two. You know, uh,

1552
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 1: let's wait and see you. You're not gonna talk four

1553
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: back in in ten minutes. Yeah, And I'm sure they

1554
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: watched him a couple of games, and they've watched him

1555
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I mean, you know, I mean,

1556
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: all of the almost we know was what the media

1557
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: is containing is aske asking. So when they didn't take

1558
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: casts what is available, all these guys flip out. You're

1559
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: absolutely say that. I don't see the Giants saying. I

1560
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: think he made a great point. And I'll point out

1561
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: again that Jim Nagy, who runs the Senior Bowl, tweeted

1562
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: out um shortly before the Giants made that pick or

1563
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: after the Daniel Jones pick outn't remember that, according to

1564
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: his understanding, more teams he's talked to, and remember they

1565
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: got that runs the Senior Bowl, talks to every NFL team,

1566
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: They have contact with everybody around the league. More people

1567
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: he talked to in the NFL had Jones ahead of

1568
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: Haskins on their board. Than Haskins in front of Jones.

1569
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: So that's what the league thinks, and I think the

1570
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: league opinion on the player was a lot different than

1571
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: the media scouts opinions on the play. Now, having said that,

1572
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: you just heard from our ledge Dan Shanka, who himself

1573
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: said he thought that Jones was a second round pick.

1574
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: And that's okay, because you know what, you can agree

1575
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: to disagree when you're going through a subjective evaluation of somebody.

1576
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to evaluate differently and value different things when

1577
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: you look at a player, and and so, and that's

1578
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: and quite honestly, I thought Jones was a late second

1579
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: round pick myself in terms of value. And I'm not

1580
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 1: afraid to admit that. And you know what we're gonna

1581
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: find down when he plays, how good he's gonna be.

1582
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: But if the Giants believe that he's the guy and

1583
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: they don't take him, then they're not doing their job

1584
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: correct if they look. Yeah, well, I remember when got

1585
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: still Sims and put in the infamous Tony Rutledge, Right, No,

1586
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: Scott Scott Bruner, Sorry, not right? And then after a

1587
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: while and I see that that was the biggest mistake

1588
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: he ever made. But he almost lost his job over

1589
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: that one here and there. Of course it's going to happen.

1590
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Everyone always has misses. No front office is a hundred

1591
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: percent either way. The next time you find a weather

1592
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: man who's a hundred percent, you give me a call

1593
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: and we'll figure out exactly how we're gonna fix the

1594
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: rest of the world. Look and the bottom line, Dennis,

1595
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: and and and thank you for the call, Dennis. We

1596
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: appreciate it. The Patriots are the model NFL franchise right

1597
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: They've let go some of their day one and Day

1598
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: two players more often before the rookie contracts up than

1599
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: any other team in a league because if they quickly

1600
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: decide whether or not a guy can play or not,

1601
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: and they get rid of them. If you look at

1602
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: the percentage of success that Bill Belichick has had with

1603
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: bringing in rookies, you would find out that it's actually

1604
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: not very good. His percentage of success is much much better.

1605
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to the reed tread pile and taking other

1606
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 1: people's discards and turning those guys at the Golden Nuggets

1607
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: two one nine four five one three to a one

1608
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: nine nine four five one three. Uh Don down in Texas,

1609
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: He's up next, Hey Don, Hey, how you guys doing

1610
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: somebody alright. I just want to start off by saying,

1611
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: great job, guys doing the coverage and on the least

1612
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks getting us all through a great job.

1613
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, alright. I just want to start by saying,

1614
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: I think the Giant stands needs to chill out right now.

1615
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: I love these picks and Dot you and I you know,

1616
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. I

1617
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: was a Haskins guy. Now, if the Giants see something

1618
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones, I think the Giants fan base just

1619
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: needs to go with it. Let's see how this works.

1620
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: I love these picks. Julian love is the main reason

1621
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: why I called this guy can play. I think the

1622
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: fans need to understand that we got two of the

1623
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: top ten cornerbacks in this draft. They flat These guys

1624
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: can flat out play as far as that Clemson bohemith

1625
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: of a man in the middle of our defensive line.

1626
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: How could you not like that big Teddy bear listening

1627
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: to his interview with you guys yesterday. This guy stuffs

1628
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: to run and has got very light feet. He can play.

1629
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: It is I don't know what other people are talking

1630
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: about with DeAndre Baker. This guy can play. Yet people

1631
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: also have to understand we are still in the process

1632
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: of recovering of years of bad drafting, years of it.

1633
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: It's going to take a little time. And I do

1634
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: think that the plan that Dave Gentleman was talking about,

1635
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: it looks like it's starting to come out. He's starting

1636
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: from the inside out, getting goods, solid secondary players, guys

1637
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,839
Speaker 1: who play hard. How could you not like that? Julian

1638
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: love Baker, Oh Man, I'm excited. And by the way,

1639
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 1: don ironically enough, if you look at Dave Gentleman's draft history,

1640
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: cornerback has generally not been a priority for him, So

1641
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of the defensive coaching staff.

1642
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: So James Betcher wants to play man on man defense,

1643
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: and I think he and that defensive coaching staff has

1644
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 1: let Dave Gettuman the look, we need guys that can cover.

1645
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: So if you can cover one on one, then you

1646
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: could be more aggressive bringing some of those blitzes if

1647
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: you don't have the edge rushers to get there to

1648
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: win one on one. So if you stockpile guys that

1649
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: can cover, then all of a sudden, you can blitz

1650
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot more, and that was a problem last year.

1651
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, Paul and I argued about this a lot.

1652
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, John, with Vernon's back, they can

1653
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: blitz a lot more, they can blitz a lot more, Like, oh, yeah, sure,

1654
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: but do you trust the guys to cover. Well, if

1655
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: these guys pan out, now you can trust the guys

1656
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: to cover and you can be a lot more aggressive

1657
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 1: with your blitzes. Yeah, the secondary to and that and

1658
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: that really caused a lot of pull back on the playbook.

1659
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: If you will, exactly right, that's exactly right. And the

1660
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: last thing, I just want to end it up. I

1661
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: know that you guys got other callers. In regards to

1662
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I'm just gonna leave a little message. He

1663
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: has got to block out the noise, come to New

1664
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: York and ball out. Just tune everybody out, do your thing,

1665
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 1: and let's go. Giants. Have a great day. Guys. I

1666
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I let me add one more thing,

1667
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: and I think and thank you for the call. That's

1668
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: one of the reasons the Giants liked him because they

1669
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: knew whenever they decided to draft a quarterback and whomever

1670
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: that player ended up being, there was going to be

1671
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: so much attention on him and the transition, how is

1672
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: it gonna work? Eli to him? Do you want to play?

1673
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: The questions and pressure and this and that and that

1674
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: and that. One of the reasons they valued him above

1675
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: the shoulders and from the neck up is because they

1676
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: believe he can handle that. They love his maturity, He's smart,

1677
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: level headed. That's again, that's not why they drafted him,

1678
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: but it was part of the package that they thought

1679
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: he could handle it, and that was the Dave Gentleman

1680
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: said it his pre draft press conference, Paul that you

1681
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: need someone that could handle that part of the starting

1682
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Giants in New York. And that's why. Uh.

1683
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: They part of the reason again, they thought Daniel Jones

1684
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: could handle that, which is why he was there. Picket six.

1685
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: If I can build off a comment you made and

1686
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: the call are just made, which is kind of related

1687
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: to this, Uh, you said that James Betcher clearly made

1688
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: clear to Dave Gentleman about what kind of scheme he's

1689
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna run and what kind of players he needs. And

1690
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: again James Betcher didn't tell me that, but based on

1691
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: Gentleman's draft history and what he's doing this it certainly

1692
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: looks that way. Okay. So combine that with the fact

1693
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: that the Giants went to the board and said, Okay,

1694
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: we know we need secondary help because the pass wash

1695
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 1: isn't what what it needs to be, and we're gonna

1696
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: go get ourselves to cover corners. Think about that for

1697
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: a second. They probably have by almost anybody stretch of

1698
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: the imagination. If you separate the zone corners from the

1699
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: cover corners, they probably have by anybody's grade, two of

1700
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: the top five cover corners in this draft. Would you

1701
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: not a grade? And by the way, both guys they

1702
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: pick can do both and play specials because they are physical.

1703
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: They beg your play specials all at Georgia he can.

1704
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did, but he can. Oh yeah,

1705
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: physically he can because he's got that mentality and he's

1706
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: got that hitting ability well. And both guys are willing

1707
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: to tackle. Both guys can play man, both guys can

1708
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: play zone. They got two versatile football players to play

1709
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: corner for them. Absolutely okay. So so you know, when

1710
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: you think of what Gettleman did and also what fits

1711
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the scheme, I I just I don't understand how you

1712
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: could possibly knock down any grades the immediate knee jerk

1713
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: reaction day after draft grades on what the Giants have done. Uh.

1714
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, you could talk all you want about how

1715
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Jones may or may not have been overdrafted next to him.

1716
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: And even though I would have preferred a pass rusher

1717
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: at seventeen two, I know that Lawrence was good value

1718
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: there every other pick John seems to have been an

1719
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: absolute smash. I don't understand how anyone's gonna be able

1720
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: to downgrade them. Yeah, I want to say one other

1721
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: thing real quick, and those goes back to what he

1722
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: said about Daniel Jones very quickly. And look, Giant fans,

1723
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: and there's a We've been taking your calls, so I

1724
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: know there's a there's a portion of you, and it's

1725
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: probably a sizeable portion that's not pleased and not happy.

1726
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: All right, But I will stress this. If you don't

1727
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: like to pick, do not take it out on the kid.

1728
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: It's not his fault. Okay, he's in the epic. He's

1729
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: gonna get pic. He doesn't control it. He is on

1730
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: your team now. You want him to succeed. It is

1731
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: in your best interest as a Giants fan for him

1732
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: to be good enough to be the air apparently, Eli Manny,

1733
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: all right, that's what you should be rooting for. And

1734
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: if it means you're wrong about the draft pick, you

1735
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: should be happy to be wrong about the draft pick

1736
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: because that's good for the long term health of the franchise.

1737
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: So you know, if he if he comes in in

1738
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: his first game whenever that happens to be, and he

1739
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: throws an early interception, which, by the way, as a

1740
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 1: guy playing his first quarterback, first game at quarterback in

1741
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, is probably going to happen. He's going to

1742
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: throw an interception. Do whatever year that is. Again, when

1743
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: whenever that happens, don't like, ah see, we told you Boom,

1744
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Yeah, but you know the writers

1745
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: are gonna tweak that because that's what they do. Two

1746
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: O one four five one three. Let's go back to

1747
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: our very busy phones, and we still have four people up.

1748
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: He called back, Really, Hi, Charlie, how are you hello? Charlie?

1749
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: Did we lose Charlie again? Charlie? I I hear something, Charlie. Charlie,

1750
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: please pick yourself up off the floor. There are a

1751
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: couple of right tackle prospects still on the board. If

1752
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: if a tree falls down and strikes Charlie in Portland, Maine.

1753
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: Is anybody with any yere there? He is? Hey are

1754
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: you doing? Thank goodness, Charlie, we were going to send

1755
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: the Red Cross after you. What are you going passing

1756
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: out up there? Hey? Look, I'm still looking for a

1757
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: right tackle? What's going on? Okay? Oh no, no? Did

1758
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: you just listen to Dan Shaka? We just had Dan

1759
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Shaka from our adds on and he he likes my

1760
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: My top two prospects on the board, David Edwards from

1761
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Isaiah Prince from Ohio State as outstanding value.

1762
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: He said, I believe if I'm quoting him correctly, he

1763
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: had David Edwards as a low second round pick. If

1764
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: the Giants can get him in round five, you better

1765
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: throw a pizza party and invite me. All right, yeah,

1766
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: but we got lift. It's uh, it's let's see. There

1767
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: are at one thirty three right now, and the Giants

1768
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: have to pick it one forty three. We are ten away,

1769
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Charlie with two with two right tackles, still above value

1770
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: on the board. Even Prince is not a bad pick,

1771
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: all right. I got gonna thinks, but if not, we

1772
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta go into free agency. Want Wait, so I hold

1773
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: on a second. You're the king of offensive life. You

1774
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: don't have any names that you want them to draft.

1775
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking you to throw out some like back

1776
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: up from me and that's coming out or something like that. Left.

1777
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I said Edwards. I already talked about Edwards

1778
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: acts and it's a guy what's the guy from the

1779
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: what's his name? Only Udo Udo from Elan. He's fifty pounds,

1780
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: he's a big, he's more of a he's more of

1781
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: a project. Though I don't I don't know that he

1782
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job right away. I don't know

1783
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: that maybe in a year, but not not now. That's

1784
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: why Edwards and Prince are important. You have to remember

1785
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: those names here because I think both of those guys

1786
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: have a chance to win a starting job week one.

1787
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: See I think. And here's the thing. I think Prince

1788
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: is a little I think any offensive tackle we're taking

1789
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: at this point is in some levels of project. I'll

1790
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: just read you Dame Bruegler's thing on Prince right now.

1791
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: UM A three year start Ohio State. Um. And I

1792
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: appreciate Charlie, thanks a lot for the call. A three

1793
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: year start Ohio State starting right tackle, started every game

1794
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: over the course of three years, showed steady improvement. Overall,

1795
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Prince was blessed with outstanding size and raw ability, but

1796
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: his blocks quickly become unglued due to his lack of technique,

1797
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: balanced and poison protection, projecting as a traits developmental prospect

1798
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: at right tackle. That's what Dane has for Isaiah Prince,

1799
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure beauty is in the eye of the behold.

1800
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Of course, say he thought much higher him. I'm not

1801
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna read all of Dan's stuff, but again, I just

1802
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: gave him the I just gave you the conclusion. I

1803
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 1: will just give you dance dance round great because he

1804
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: was telling us he really thought he would be a

1805
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: great value. At this point, Dan was saying again Dan

1806
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: from Urland's Guide. By the way, the Patriots just got

1807
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: their quarterback, Jared Stiham. That's Paul's guy. My sleeper quarterback

1808
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: of the draft goes to the Patriots in round four

1809
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be thrilled. Compares favorably with Garoppolo. That's

1810
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: that's a nice, nice pick. Let's see here. According to

1811
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: Dan Shaka, he's got Prince as a low third round,

1812
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: high fourth Okay, So I mean that that that's that's

1813
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: around where we are, maybe a little bit ahead of

1814
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: where we are. Were Giants gonna be picking them high,

1815
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: so that's outstanding value if they get them. So five

1816
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: on three, let me go through some of the picks

1817
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: we've had since last week. Spoke. I think the last

1818
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: pick I gave you was Tony Pollard, right, the running

1819
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: back from Memphis to Dallas. Oakland selected one of my

1820
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: favorite developmental corners, Isaiah Johnson at of Houston, converted wide receiver.

1821
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: The Chargers take tranquil linebacker right of Notre Dame. The

1822
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: Redskins like Westmore and guard out of Indiana. Uh. The

1823
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: Seahawks then select Ugo Amadi, another great name in this draft,

1824
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: quarterback out of Oregon, and that pick came way of

1825
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: the Giants, by the way, in the DeAndre Baker trade,

1826
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: So that was the pick that they gave up for Baker,

1827
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: Ugo Amati. And then Jared Stidham goes to the Patriots,

1828
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: and we are at the final selection of the fourth

1829
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: round prior to the supplemental picks, so you stole the

1830
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: supplemental picks coming. And then the Giants roll in at

1831
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: one three so we are about nine picks away from

1832
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the Giants next selection. In the meantime, Big Book is

1833
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: presented by cores Light. Download the Coors Light Awards up

1834
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: to an Amazing Giants Prize. Let's go back to the phones.

1835
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: Anthony's in Connecticut. He's up next. What's up, Tony? Hey?

1836
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: How you doing? How you doing? Thank you? Yes, I

1837
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: just want to send over to all of my Giants

1838
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: fans or sit about first day the way I was

1839
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: one of them, by the way, but the way I'm

1840
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: looking at it right now, I say this, so I

1841
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: would not get that said. Let me look at it

1842
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 1: this way. What about if we would have picked six,

1843
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence of six, Deander Baker on seventeen and Daniel

1844
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Jones with the thirty pick. It all has the same, right,

1845
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: So I really don't understand what is such the fault

1846
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: about because of Haskins or Jones, you know, and and

1847
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: and that's my take on it. I mean, that's the

1848
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: way I have to look at it. So he won't

1849
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: be upset even if he's getting member of the guy.

1850
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: He has to take it as six. Right, guys, Look,

1851
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I will I will tell you this, and I've talked

1852
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: to how many head coaches now since I started doing

1853
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: this job in they will all tell you after the

1854
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: guy gets here, as far as he's concerned. It may

1855
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: not be that way for the scouts of the GM Okay,

1856
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: but as far as he's concerned as a head coach,

1857
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what round the guy was taken in.

1858
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 1: You're now a member of my team and my roster.

1859
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Go out there and produce, and if you produce, it

1860
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what round you're in, or if you don't

1861
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: produce it does it matter? The coach is saying, what

1862
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: does this guy give me? What is his production? He's

1863
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: not thinking about this guy was drafted in this round.

1864
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh that was good value, Oh we did great, or

1865
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: this guy was Look, I'll give you a great example.

1866
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Eric Dorsey was a first round defensive end for Notre

1867
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: Dame Okay, played and played as a part time starters

1868
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: lash reserve on the Giant Super Bowl team in six Okay,

1869
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: you remember him. Many people say because of where he

1870
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: was drafted, he was a bust. That's a bunch of garbage.

1871
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: He was drafted and played on one of the best

1872
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: defenses of his time, was a significant player and helped

1873
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: them win a Super Bowl, all right, forget the fact

1874
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: that where he was drafted, he was a good, positive,

1875
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: productive player for like a half a dozen years and

1876
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: started a bunch of games. That's that's all that matters.

1877
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: But nobody wants to let you do that. Nobody wants

1878
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 1: to let you do that. They want to insist on

1879
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: where was the drafted that he lived up to the

1880
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 1: value of that pick. That's gar bitch, no value. It

1881
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't not the coaches, it doesn't. Coaches don't care. Roster

1882
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: and roster construction talk. The only way it matters is

1883
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: because of guaranteed money and once you have to pay

1884
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,879
Speaker 1: guys because of where they are. And the head coaches

1885
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: don't care. They want production. No, they don't care where

1886
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: the player was picked. But you have but you have

1887
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: X number of opportunities to select premium players, right, and

1888
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: it's it's very odd. It's very rare that you'll get

1889
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: a premium, premium gold jacket player in the third round.

1890
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: There's a much better chance of getting a gold jacket

1891
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: player on the top ten. That's that's all I'm saying.

1892
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: When you're building a roster, you only have X number

1893
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: of options to get top top, top top players, and

1894
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: you gotta take advantage of the situations when you have

1895
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: the opportunity. That's my only point from a roster building perspective,

1896
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: talking about two totally different questions yourself another. Thank you

1897
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate it. That's all I'm saying. Because you

1898
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: know me, I'm all about asset management. So if same

1899
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: to you. If you give guys a lot of money

1900
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: in your salary cap, you want that player to become

1901
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: a star. If you pick it a guy early in

1902
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: the draft, look, I'm paying a top ten guy ends

1903
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: up being a rotational defensive lineman. No, I'm not happy

1904
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: with that. If I'm a general manager, right, we're talking

1905
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: to separate issues. Come fucking head, coach, and I understand

1906
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: where you're coming. I want production. I don't care where

1907
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: you were picked. Go out there and play for me.

1908
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: Of course, make place four or five on three Rich

1909
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: in Maryland Online? Three? Rich, what's going on? Rich? You

1910
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: gotta turn your computer down and listen to your phone. Buddy, Hello,

1911
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: yeah here here you go. Ahead, all right, Rich? Internationally,

1912
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:47,799
Speaker 1: I do a giant show Facebook and I had Daniel

1913
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Jones and okay, I actually down inside Jones has been

1914
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback because of his auleticism. Okay, I think I

1915
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: think the Druons knocked it out of part. The only

1916
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: thing is that if I was a GM, there's no

1917
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: way that I could have passed on Josh Allen because

1918
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: I have Josh Allen. That's the best defensive player in

1919
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: the draft. Hey, look and if if that's the case,

1920
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I understand why you personally would make that decision. But

1921
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: as Dave Gentleman said in his post press conference, he

1922
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: had Jones and Allen on the same line horizontally, which

1923
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: means they had either identical or really really similar grades.

1924
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: And in that case, the tiebreaker is going to go

1925
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: to the quarterback because that's the most important position on

1926
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: the field. He made the smaller decision. He knew he

1927
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't make the right decision. I'm just saying, I'm just

1928
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: playing a little buble advocate, but he didn't make the

1929
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 1: right decision and getting and securing the quarterback as the

1930
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: quarterback in the position that we needed the most. And

1931
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: of course here at quarterback trumps everything else. But this

1932
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: guy on Jones gan the drums. He's going to be

1933
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: a beast because he's everything that checked off in the

1934
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: factory when you're trying to build a quarterback. And the

1935
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: fact that he was in Mannins camp and I'm Eli

1936
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 1: mannings On camp as a child, I believe that Elan

1937
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: then in the Payton manner, are gonna be behind him.

1938
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 1: So he has a house behind him, you know. And

1939
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: so I think, and even after the draft, seeing um

1940
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: hoskins reaction to not getting picked by the Giants, I

1941
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: think we got the We got the quarterback that we

1942
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: should have gotten, you know. So I think I'm not

1943
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 1: going to at the park. Well, thanks for your time,

1944
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: app and let me throw this out there too. And

1945
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: Dave Gutleman said as much when he was asked about them,

1946
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: the Manning connection and the cut Cliff connection, and he said, yeah,

1947
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 1: that's nice, but because he's been the Manning camps and

1948
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: maybe he spent some time at Duke when when Eli

1949
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: went there to throw in the off season. That's not

1950
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: why you pick a player. It's not you pick a

1951
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 1: player because of the player that he is, not because

1952
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: of who knows or where he's been. Now, he's a

1953
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: better player because he was coached by Cutcliff. We understand

1954
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: that he's more fundamentally sound, knows how to do things

1955
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: mentally that NFL quarterbacks are asked to do. So that's

1956
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: a factor. But this whole like connection thing, which I

1957
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: always thought was was overblown by people when they were

1958
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 1: connecting the dots on who the Giants might pick. Yeah,

1959
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: it's great that he that he knows the mannings, Okay, cool,

1960
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: But if they didn't think you would play, if they

1961
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: didn't think he could play, and none of that would matter. Correct, correct,

1962
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh, you know, he's he live

1963
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,799
Speaker 1: Part two. No, they think he's a really good quarter pack. Okay.

1964
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, I will say this, I watched

1965
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 1: about three or four full games of him over the

1966
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: course of the last day. I'm trying to get through

1967
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 1: two full seasons are gonna take me a while. His

1968
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: mannerisms in the and I see where Gil Brand's coming

1969
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: from when he makes the Payton Manning comparison. And I'm

1970
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: not saying that Daniel Jones is Payton Manning, though the

1971
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: way he holds the ball and he kind of does

1972
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: like those little tiptoe hops back and forth in the

1973
01:41:55,680 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 1: pocket does remind you of the way pay even moved

1974
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Again, he's not Peyton Manning. He's not

1975
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I'll say it one more time. He's not

1976
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Peyton hitting, But the way he slides in the pocket

1977
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and the mannerisms when he does so does remind you

1978
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: of him and the way he moved. Now, no one's

1979
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: gonna say, do you know what? I love Peyton Manning

1980
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: the way he moved. So that's what I'm saying. All

1981
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that the mannerism is the way he

1982
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: moves around does remind you of that. That's the only

1983
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: connection that I'm making. A k A the fourth Manning brother,

1984
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: which which again doesn't matter. What matters is that I

1985
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: think the kid can play two, five, three. A couple

1986
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: other good players off the board, Greg Gaines, who he

1987
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: is a large man as well. We saw him at

1988
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and no one could move him. He

1989
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: is a tank and a run stuffer and a defensive

1990
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: tackle and those tackle He goes to the Los Angeles Rams.

1991
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 1: John Kaminski, who's a fascinating player. He played quarterback in

1992
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: high school if I'm not mistake, and I think then

1993
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: went to tight end, eventually switched over to defensive end,

1994
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: went to Charleston. Has every measurable you would want. He

1995
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: ran well at the combine, but very very raw. He

1996
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: goes to the Falcons. He now plays defensive end at

1997
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: pick thirty three and round number four, and then with

1998
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: a compensit to with another compensatory pick, the Bengals take

1999
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State guard Michael Jordan's who most people believe was

2000
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: the best guard remaining in the board. And I'm very happy,

2001
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: but I feel bad because you know, he was number

2002
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: one on Lance Meadows board. Uh. I might add something

2003
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more football related to him. He's a

2004
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: good player. By the way, the Ohio State Buckeyes when

2005
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: they add it's one of my guys. Paul liked him.

2006
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 1: Forced the Moreau to the Raiders. I'm sorry to interrupt you.

2007
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: Round numb before forced the Moreau tight end l s

2008
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: U tough as nails, a good blocker, performed really well

2009
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: at the combine. I thought he could be kind of

2010
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: a Red Ellison part the type of thing when his

2011
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: contract is up and replace him as a blocking tight

2012
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: end to Puiy with Evan Ingram. I'm a big Forster

2013
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: Moro guy, and he just got you know what, how

2014
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: many times have I said when the Opland Raiders have

2015
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 1: picked boy, I really like that pick. I've said it

2016
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of times. I didn't love their two picks

2017
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: at then in the first round, to be honest with you,

2018
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: the running back and the strong safety. I wasn't thrilled

2019
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: about that. And obviously Ferrell, We've talked about that many times.

2020
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: But I feel like I also look to see who

2021
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 1: they've picked in total. But my feel is at their

2022
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: day two and Day three picks have been pretty good. Yeah,

2023
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: now I'll have to look at it well. I just

2024
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: wanted to simply add that that concludes the fourth round,

2025
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: as the Eagles will finish it up right here at

2026
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: number one. One more to go there pick is in.

2027
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: So we're done now with round number four, and the

2028
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: Giants are going to be picking and around number five

2029
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:56,759
Speaker 1: and their selection is going to be. It's number five,

2030
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 1: number five. Betsy Bonia, US Air Force pilot announcing it.

2031
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Shariff Miller, defensive end from Penn State. I did not

2032
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: look at Triff Miller. I'm just trying to see if

2033
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: I did or didn't. And he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles,

2034
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: and what are the Philadelphia didn't do? Paul? They want

2035
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: to stack pass rusher, So he's an Dyer and he's

2036
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: another guy they can mix into that rotation um on

2037
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: the defensive line. The Eagles have had a nice few

2038
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: days drafting players. Yeah, I again, I think the whole

2039
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: NFC East has actually done well well. The Cowboys didn't

2040
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: have a first round pick. Wow, Wow, what a shame.

2041
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: All they had his three picks and trying to remember,

2042
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: they picked the defensive tackle at the u u C.

2043
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: F Right, the offensive lineman at a Penn State, and

2044
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 1: then their last pick was a running back. So yeah,

2045
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: look they they had their draft when they traded from

2046
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: like SuperFect October and he's proven. Oh yeah, at least

2047
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 1: at the moment, and he was a good good he

2048
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 1: was a good player for them. Picked number five in

2049
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 1: this round is the Giants. John, Yes, so we are

2050
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: five picks away. You have Arizona, And make sure I

2051
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: have this right. Make sure there have been no traids

2052
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: that have messed things up, because there's been so many

2053
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: trades that the order probably has changed. So let's take

2054
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: a look at this. You have Arizona, who the pick

2055
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 1: is in on already, then the Jaguars, then the Steelers,

2056
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 1: then the Seahawks, which is the pick they acquired from

2057
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: the Giants in the DeAndre Baker trade, and then the

2058
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: Giants go at one forty three, so there are five

2059
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: picks away from the New York Giants. We will talk

2060
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 1: about that pick at the reaction. Then we will have

2061
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Rick Sara tell on and we'll try to get that

2062
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 1: pick on the phone too. After he does the conference

2063
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 1: call with the media. Charlie, if you're still watching us,

2064
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 1: if you're still glued to that computer. Uh, the two

2065
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: top offensive tackles are still there, and James and New

2066
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: Jersey wants to talk about the offensive tackles, So let's

2067
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: go to him next. James, Hey, guys, how you doing.

2068
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 1: I want to thank you. Year round coverage is awesome

2069
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 1: and then you guys get me home from the stadium

2070
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: with your postgame stuff every week of the home game.

2071
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate that I have a tackle for you that

2072
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: you haven't mentioned. Okay, and he's a lunch tail guy,

2073
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: three year starter from Clemson. Mitch Hyatt. I was wondering

2074
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: what your thoughts were on him. Some people see him

2075
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: as a guard and not a tackle, but he's a

2076
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: solid offensive lineman. I think he'd be a good value pick.

2077
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: The question is whether or not you think he has

2078
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: the athleticism to stick a tackle, or if you think

2079
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna move into guard, that to me, he's a

2080
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: question on him and the reason he would go to guard.

2081
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: My notes suggested short arms did not necessarily like his feet,

2082
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: and mobility was a bit of a problem. His an

2083
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: agility factor was not very high, and if you have

2084
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: poor agility and short arms, it's awfully hard to play tackle. Now,

2085
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: what I did like was his technique. He did well

2086
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: with what he had. I did say that a four

2087
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 1: year starter, so the experience really favored him. And I

2088
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: also wrote down him on my mind here that I

2089
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: thought he was a smart player. It didn't look like

2090
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 1: he did a lot of dumb things, but physically he

2091
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: has some limitations. By the way, I think he's a

2092
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: better guard. I'm with John on this. I will point

2093
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: out that there was not one offensive tackle taken in

2094
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: the entire or fourth round, and the last offensive tackle

2095
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 1: that was taken was Yanni could use at one on

2096
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: one overall, So we've gone through nearly forty picks here

2097
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 1: without an offensive tackle going off the board. I would

2098
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: say that's a good sign, you know why, because that

2099
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: job's with what Dave Gentleman said, as it being one

2100
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: of the three deepest positions in the draft, it means

2101
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: guys figured that it was okay, you didn't have to

2102
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: rush one and take one. There'll be plenty of guys

2103
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: still usable later on in the draft. That's my read

2104
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: on it. The Cardinals are having a good draft. Deante

2105
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Thompson safety out of Alabama at this point. There's some

2106
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: red flags on him with health and you know, speed

2107
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 1: and stuff. Round it's pretty good. You gotta do it.

2108
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I understand that. What's your next point, James, Sorry about that.

2109
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: That's right. Uh, I was just watching on TV. I

2110
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: was watching the pick as it came in. This you

2111
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: guys for saying it. Um, I was if you think

2112
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: they might double down, then um. If they do take

2113
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: a tackle at this point at high surrounding the seventh round,

2114
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: because was projected to you know, go later, do you

2115
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: think they might take him and bring him in as

2116
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: a reserve, possibly to bounce inside. If there are two

2117
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: offensive linemen before the end of the draft, it wouldn't

2118
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: surprise me. Dave Gotaman loves his big guys and he,

2119
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: as Lance likes to point out, and I'll pull I'll

2120
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: put my lance metal hat on. You know, he's never

2121
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: picking offensive line in the first two rounds before, you know, so,

2122
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: thank you for taking the shot, James. I appreciate thanks

2123
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: for the call. I actually was gonna be commentary for once,

2124
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 1: but I'm happy the car took a shot. Okay, his

2125
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: lance high under the uwhere he's mourning somewhere that the

2126
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Giants didn't have a chance. Trath Michael Jordan's exactly are

2127
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: the Jaguar was about to announce their pick. Uh, it

2128
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: looks like they're in London because I think they're playing

2129
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 1: another game in London this year, right, And boy did

2130
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: Westbrook he is one slender dude. Huh. He's there making

2131
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 1: the pick with the guy. And remember coming out you

2132
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: were worried about his size and being on the play

2133
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver all the time. You see it here. He's

2134
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 1: just not a big dude, No, not at all. Giants

2135
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: are forty three Jaguars pick is in. That's about to

2136
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 1: be announced that theaters are on the clock at one

2137
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the class that's remaining,

2138
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: Rieckel Armstead out of Temple, who's kind of a bruiser

2139
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 1: and can do a little bit of everything at running

2140
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: back Rieckel Armstead goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars and the

2141
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Giants are three picks away Pittsburgh Seattle Giants, and Pittsburgh's

2142
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 1: pick is already in according to NFL dot com, So

2143
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: they're just waiting to get through with the highlights of

2144
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: the Jaguars selection, so then they could probably set up

2145
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: the satellite for Pittsburgh's pick and John at this point,

2146
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,759
Speaker 1: by the way, just to the fans, no pal TV

2147
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: controls how quickly they announced picks at this point. Correct,

2148
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 1: They get in there quickly, and we've gotten points. On

2149
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: day three. It hasn't been as bad today where three

2150
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: or four picks are in before they announce the pick

2151
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:56,600
Speaker 1: that's on the board. So they're actually keeping it in

2152
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 1: pace here a little bit better. And now the Steelers

2153
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 1: pick is in a um, so here we go. We're

2154
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: going fast. And I'm gonna say this again for how

2155
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: many millions of times, boy David Edwards is here and

2156
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: the Giants take him. You're talking about a guy who

2157
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 1: again our lads is grady to him as a low

2158
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: second rounder. I mean, it's amazing. There can be no

2159
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: dispute really. After the quarterback who Some people again will

2160
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 1: say he's overdrafted, and I'm one of those who will

2161
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: say he was. There's not another guy the Giants have

2162
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: taken that was that was out of the ballpark. Dave

2163
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: Gettiman even said last night when they left that every

2164
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 1: single guy that they had traded was hiring value on

2165
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 1: their board. David Edwards six six, three oh eight. Just

2166
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: to give you some numbers on him, this is Dame

2167
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: Brulo's overall evaluation. Overall, he has the size, hand strength,

2168
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: and enough mobility to play the position in the NFL,

2169
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: but his upper and lower body have speak different languages,

2170
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 1: with only average place strength, projecting as a develop mental tackle.

2171
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: That's Dane's pick on him. He has him, I believe

2172
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: he has him. Is a fourth round guy, so he

2173
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: would be UM value ahead at this point too. He

2174
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: is Edwards is the fifth and Princess the fifth, so

2175
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: to be in line with with Brugler's projections. And as

2176
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 1: you said, Shanka has these guys higher on his board.

2177
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 1: So again it all depends on what evaluator you talk to.

2178
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 1: Everyone sees these guys differently, um and we'll see what happens.

2179
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: The Steelers, like Zach Gentry tight end out of Michigan,

2180
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: which means the Seahawks are up. This is to pick

2181
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 1: the Giants again did have before the DeAndre Baker trade,

2182
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: and then the Giants will select after that. The Giants

2183
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: are on the clock. There picks not in, so I'll

2184
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 1: try to squeeze in a call. It's just Seattle's pick

2185
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 1: is in. Maybe you shouldn't, John, but the Giants aren't

2186
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 1: on and yet, so I'll be quick and he only

2187
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: is one follow up question from yesterday, So Geo, what's

2188
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 1: your question? Hey? How on Thursday was the last call

2189
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: and I was talking about Joan Taylor and Drew Lock

2190
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: and how they would not drop past seventeen. So it's

2191
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 1: been a stunner shakra from me so far. But um,

2192
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: right now, I just wanted to talk to you about

2193
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: totograph because obviously we're looking at Bob's value and I

2194
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: know Edwards would be great, but they have them still

2195
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: weren't even lower. So if you think that we would

2196
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: take somebody more valuable over Edwards, which is our need,

2197
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm talking about somebody like Walker at the outside linebacker

2198
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 1: or maybe even the wide receiver for him. I don't know,

2199
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: what do you guys, think which wide receiver? Did you

2200
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 1: like the one from Dominion for him? Oh? Yeah, I

2201
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a little rich for him.

2202
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: I think you can wait. I think there are enough

2203
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 1: wide receivers there. Um. I think Dan jay Walker will

2204
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: be a good value pick here Matt Wilson still on

2205
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 1: the board and Geo thanks, I appreciate it. Um. Yeah,

2206
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: I think he'd be really good value with the spot.

2207
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: He's a good football player. I'm sorry at this point

2208
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: hitching for me. I'm itching for me. He here's my problem.

2209
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 1: I've got to take the right tackle now, I got

2210
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: to I'm having deja vu. I know this is the

2211
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: same and I'm not fall I swear to myself I

2212
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't fall for well. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

2213
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: I need need. I'm balancing the scales out and but

2214
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: let's not just need. Even if you say he's a

2215
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: fourth round or he's good value with the Giants front

2216
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: office don't believe that they can play. Maybe they don't,

2217
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe they do. I don't know what they think about.

2218
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 1: This is what comes into play where you have to

2219
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: be in the chair and make the evaluation. You can't

2220
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 1: listen to outside noise basically me. Yeah, well you are

2221
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: the epitome of noise, that's for sure. We gotta pick

2222
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: by the Seahawks ben Burg Curvin. He's a pretty talented

2223
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: linebacker out of Washington. He was one of David deal sleepers,

2224
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: actually first team All Pack twelve selection. Smaller guy Fast

2225
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 1: might have been a converted safety. I have to check

2226
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 1: on that, but he's actually ah. I think he's a

2227
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: pretty good value pick here, and a player that could

2228
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 1: contribute for the Seahawks too. They're really trying to restock

2229
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: their defense here. Who are you picking, John, I'm taking Edwards.

2230
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: That's it, hands down, I'm doing it. Gimme mack Wilson,

2231
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: backer Alabama. I wouldn't have a problem with that, Like

2232
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem when you when you said

2233
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: I was just dying for the for the lineman. I'll

2234
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: tell you what though, DeAndre Walker, all right, it's in.

2235
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm going mack Wilson. I don't know. They might be

2236
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,919
Speaker 1: afraid of him though. And now we got a commercial,

2237
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: so we're waiting. We're just gonna hold up the pick.

2238
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm gonna throw a wild card at you. Yeah,

2239
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: Like Isaac Nada tight end at a Georgia No, but, but,

2240
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: but but if Hog Molley's are the way that Dave

2241
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: Gentleman wants to go. How about Daylon Mack. He's a

2242
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: big but you already drafted dexter Lawrence. Ryan Connolly, linebacker

2243
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin. I did not watch him, So let's

2244
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: let's get the word on what Ryan Connolly does. He's

2245
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: a linebacker at a Wisconsin sixty two. We're in a

2246
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 1: four six six not watch the combine. So this is

2247
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: why we have our guys here that we trust and

2248
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: have their guide. So we'll we'll give you what these

2249
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: guys have about the linebacker positions. See, I thought they

2250
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: might go with a with an inside linebacker. And you know,

2251
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's an inside guy or not.

2252
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: We'll we'll tell you in a second. Um, but the

2253
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: Giants do not have great depth at that linebacker position. Um.

2254
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: So he's somebody that the Giants like, obviously inside Wisconsin.

2255
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: And yet look that we talked about it, they need

2256
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: depth there. What do you got for me? Uh? They're

2257
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: listening to about a four six ade forty. This is

2258
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,839
Speaker 1: the this is out of the outlet our lads. Dan Shaka,

2259
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: two year starter, instinctive, smart and tough, quick to read

2260
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: and react, gets downhill. Uh, let's see some of the

2261
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: other comments. They do have him as a sixth or

2262
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. We'll miss tackle at times, occasionally spends

2263
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: too much time on a block, and can be slow

2264
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: to shed. Uh. Season ending surgery, doesn't say what for,

2265
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: but recovered in time for the combine special teams, solid

2266
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: special teams player. Projects to three four inside backer. Walk

2267
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: On did not have scholarship offers, added thirty pounds to

2268
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: his frame at Wisconsin, play in the East West Shrine Game,

2269
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: but couldn't play due to injury. Um, he's a player

2270
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 1: and no word on the injury, right, I'll get it

2271
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: for you here. Um, yeah, I just have undergoing surgery.

2272
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Do not have a detail on what the injury is.

2273
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: From what I can, this is the Dame Brugler summary.

2274
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: Three year starter. He morphed from a walk On quarterback

2275
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 1: to a linebacker in Madison, lining up inside of the

2276
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Badgers three four base out worked more highly recruited players

2277
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,839
Speaker 1: when you ride at Wisconsin, and that worked higher drafted

2278
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: players when he lands an NFL training camp. Competes like

2279
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 1: a lifelong linebacker, not a quarterback and as the competitive

2280
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: toughness required for NFL life. While he plays assignment sound.

2281
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 1: His shed skills are underdeveloped, but he is straight line

2282
01:57:57,240 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: athleticism over. O'connelly has little margin for error with a

2283
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: skill set, but he is an instinctive hunter with special

2284
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: teams mentality that will give him a chance to make

2285
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: the fifty two men roster. Can you mute your computer there? From?

2286
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 1: But I'm also trying to find the player. So he's

2287
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: a guy that to me screams, cores, special teams guy,

2288
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 1: somebody that can go in there and compete at linebacker.

2289
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: And he seems to have that football character that the

2290
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 1: Giants are looking for from their players, somebody that kind

2291
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: of worked their way in and earned their starting spot

2292
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: as a walk on linebacker, beating out a bunch of

2293
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: scholarship guys. He was a third team All Big Ten

2294
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 1: player in two thousand eighteen and All Big Ten Honorable

2295
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Mention back in two thousand and seventeen. Six career sacks,

2296
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 1: two interceptions, two force fumbles, seven passes defended, eighty nine

2297
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Speaker 1: tackles as a senior. One of our guys talked about

2298
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 1: him in our preview and did his senior season with

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01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 1: an ab torn off of his pubic bone on both

2300
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: sides and underwent surgery in December. That sounds uncomfortable. I

2301
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 1: remember somebody told us about to remember this because the

2302
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 1: injury sticks in your head. You can't you hear it? Okay? Um,

2303
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: it's given me the creeps just thinking about it. Um

2304
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: So someone someone I mentioned that to us during our

2305
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 1: draft previews over the last month or so, but I

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01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: don't remember who. All right, why don't we bring Rick

2307
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: Sowar tell maybe he can give us more information on

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01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the guy. Paul Let's bring him in right now. Rick,

2309
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: you got johnsh Melcom, Paulo here and his brother Fred.

2310
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: How are you, pal? Hey, what's happening? Fella is always

2311
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: glad to be here. Tell us about Ryan Connell. He

2312
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 1: wasn't one of the guys that we watched. So what's

2313
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 1: your take on him? Well? Yeah, you know, he um.

2314
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 1: He wasn't available here during the draft process leading up

2315
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 1: to the draft, so he kind of remained somewhat of

2316
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 1: a mystery because we didn't get the measurables on paper

2317
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 1: but on film. You know, I had him projected as

2318
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: a backup at the next level. I think he's a

2319
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: guy that provides that he's gonna be always fighting to

2320
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 1: be one of those bottom of the fifty three roster guys.

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02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 1: But I was listening to a little bit what you

2322
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: guys said. Guys would come in contribute on special teams.

2323
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure how much of a role

2324
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna play on the defense. His instincts are are

2325
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, obviously his best attribute, but you know he's

2326
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 1: limited physically. He's got you know, limited quickness, takes poor angles,

2327
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: struggles to get off of blocks. You know, this is

2328
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 1: the report that I have on him. So you know, hey,

2329
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: the Giants obviously saw something here. But as you guys said,

2330
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 1: it was a painful season for him. He played the

2331
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:37,959
Speaker 1: entire year throughout the injury, so there is some some grittiness.

2332
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Well wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, it's rough,

2333
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: torn pelvic muscles. He played through that. That's correct. This

2334
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: happen actually before the season. God, not even more uncomfortable?

2335
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: What what? When? What possesses a guy to do that?

2336
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: Because he wants to put something on tape, He gets drafted,

2337
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy, wants to play, man. I mean, listen,

2338
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: they got that, you know, Country Farm toughness out in Wisconsin,

2339
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 1: you know. So again, maybe that's one of the traits

2340
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: and characteristics that the Giants liked in this player. But yeah,

2341
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 1: he did play the entire season through that injury. Wow. Okay, um,

2342
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 1: let's move on to the giants previous pick, and I

2343
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 1: want to ask you about Ocean Zimminez. First, he was

2344
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 1: the last pick in on day number two for them.

2345
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 1: You liked some of these smaller school guys wreck. I

2346
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 1: loved his tape heading into the Senior Bowl. Then at

2347
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, I didn't think he won as much

2348
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 1: as I thought he was going to your take on Ziminez,

2349
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you someone there. I wanted to see

2350
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: more out of the Senior ball. I was excited he

2351
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 1: jumped off early in the season. You know, this guy

2352
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: was racking up the sacks, and said, who is this guy?

2353
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: Him and his from Old Dominion. He's racking up two

2354
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 1: three sacks each and every week. And then I went

2355
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: and watched him, you know, and he was an effective

2356
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt forty three defensive ent and that's

2357
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: where I kind of had him pegged at the next

2358
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: level here. So obviously, with the Giant scheme, He's probably

2359
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 1: going to project as an outside linebacker, which I just

2360
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if I can envision that. Uh.

2361
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 1: You know, the majority of his game is kind of

2362
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 1: winning the leverage, winning with strength, winning with the hand battles.

2363
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 1: And you know, again, I didn't see what I wanted

2364
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 1: to out of the Senior Bowl, but his film did

2365
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: provide glimpses of ability to get after the quarterbacks. So hey,

2366
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: you know what, when Lorenzo Carter's the best pass for

2367
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 1: us are in your team, you need help somewhere and

2368
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 1: they found it an old dominion. Let me ask you

2369
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:37,000
Speaker 1: this and again, Rick Sartello from NFL Draft Bible joins us. Uh,

2370
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: looking at your publication, Rake, and and again, we always

2371
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: appreciate all your contributions to our program. You had Wisconsin

2372
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 1: tackle David Edwards rated as the sixth best tackle in

2373
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 1: the draft, and how to even projected in the second round,

2374
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,600
Speaker 1: he is still on the board. Is there any reason

2375
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: since you went to press, because I know you go

2376
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 1: to press and then sometimes things change, why this guy

2377
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 1: would still not be a Can in the middle of

2378
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 1: the fifth round. You know, again, there's something in the

2379
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 1: water out in Wisconsin. And another tough guy that played

2380
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 1: through injury and you didn't hear about it much throughout

2381
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 1: the season. A guy didn't make excuses, didn't complain. But

2382
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 1: you know the reason why he carried a high grade

2383
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 1: for US is because you know, we factored in his

2384
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 1: film two years ago where you know, had he declared early,

2385
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: he actually got a round one, round two grade from

2386
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: the NFL Advisory Committee. He chose to return and go

2387
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: back to school, suffered an injury. I can't recall off

2388
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 1: the top of my head what it was. I'm gonna

2389
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: refresh you your your your book says it was a shoulder, okay, correct.

2390
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, So obviously that hindered him throughout the year,

2391
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: and he struggled at times, and you know what, he

2392
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: wasn't as effective. But if you go back two years ago,

2393
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 1: his film is as good as any tackle in this

2394
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 1: year's draft. So you know, teams have to figure out

2395
02:03:57,920 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: what which edwards? Am I gat and am I getting

2396
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 1: the ones two years ago? Or am I get one

2397
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 1: from this past season? And again we're not privy to

2398
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: what they found in Indianapolis at the medical report. I

2399
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: don't know how serious or how further of a surgery

2400
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 1: is required. Or what's going to be needed there. Yeah,

2401
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. Why do you think mack Wilson

2402
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: still on the board wreck? Wow, you know that's a

2403
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 1: great question. And I heard from scouts coming into the

2404
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 1: draft they said, Hey, I want to be surprised if

2405
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 1: he goes Day one. I wouldn't be surprised if he

2406
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: goes Day three. And you know, it's just the fact

2407
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 1: is he underachieved. Um. You know, this is one of

2408
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 1: the guys that if you listen to Nick Saban talk

2409
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 1: about his disappointment with underclassmen and him naming, you know,

2410
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:44,600
Speaker 1: players without naming specific names as to you know, players

2411
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: making bad choices because they can return to school and

2412
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: solidify the draft stock to a first round pick. I

2413
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 1: think mack Wilson is the perfect example of that. He

2414
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,000
Speaker 1: had another year of eligibility where he could have kind

2415
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:58,080
Speaker 1: of owned his skills. All the all the size and

2416
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 1: athletic traits are there. He just never serialized into the

2417
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 1: player Alabama thought they were getting. So I think, you know,

2418
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: here's the perfect example of a guy that probably cost

2419
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: himself about twenty million bucks guaranteed in the pocket by

2420
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 1: coming out early. Rick, I'm gonna give you an opportunity

2421
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: to share some love and get some big hugs from

2422
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: Giants fans. You listed Julian Love and DeAndre Baker as

2423
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: first round values, and the Giants of course got one

2424
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: of them at the bottom of the first round and

2425
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 1: got the other guy Love here in the fourth round today.

2426
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 1: You really really thought these guys were gonna be terrific values. Yeah.

2427
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, when I take a look at DeAndre Baker,

2428
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: I see a guy that is arguably talk about man

2429
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 1: to man coverage. This guy matches up, physically, jams the

2430
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 1: receiver's coming off the line of line of scrimmage. I

2431
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: love the intensity and the ferociousness he plays with. However,

2432
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, one thing we found out leading up to

2433
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 1: the draft process talking to some of his coaches was

2434
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 1: the questionable work ethic. I don't know how much of

2435
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 1: this guy likes to practice, so I think that's a

2436
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: big part of the reason why he didn't go as

2437
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: high as he hoped. And you know, we saw questionable

2438
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: work ethic how that worked out in the locker room

2439
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: with the Eli Apple, So you know, I'm sure that

2440
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: Giants did their homework on this player. I do think

2441
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 1: talent wise, yes, first round talent, questionable work ethic does

2442
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,280
Speaker 1: raise some red flags for me in terms of how

2443
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna fit in with this team. So, uh, that's

2444
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 1: Baker for his Julian love. You know, I'm guessing because

2445
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: of his size, teams viewing him as a nickelback, you know,

2446
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of slot cover corner. You know, he fell all

2447
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 1: the way to the third round. But again, another guy

2448
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: that's physical, quick, um brings all the intangibles in terms

2449
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: of leadership. So you know, this guy is drawn very

2450
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: high praise from coach Bryan Kelly in terms of his intelligence.

2451
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: And I don't have to imagine that, you know, the

2452
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 1: the roster status of a one Genores Jenkins here could

2453
02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 1: possibly be in jeopardy if not this and then by

2454
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: next year, I would think with the selection of these guys,

2455
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 1: his days are numbered. Well, you consider Sam Beale was

2456
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: i R last year, so he's a red shirt rookie.

2457
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 1: The Giants in effect will have three rookie corners on

2458
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: the roster this year. Yeah, and you know, I think

2459
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: anything that Bill can give them at this point has

2460
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 1: to be considered a bonus. Uh. You know, they obviously

2461
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 1: forfeited I think a third round pick in this year's

2462
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: draft to take him, and then he had the unfortunate injury.

2463
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 1: But the one thing is, hey, I got to create

2464
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 1: some competition in that secondary and listen with Landon Collins

2465
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 1: now moved on, there's gonna have to be someone who

2466
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:38,160
Speaker 1: steps up and takes on that leadership role. So we'll

2467
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 1: see who emerges. Now you had Daniel Jones is the

2468
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: first round grade on your board? Your thoughts on him

2469
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 1: as a player, Rick, Well, you know it's I I

2470
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 1: feel like he's a poor man Zeli with more mobility

2471
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: and the ability to escape the past for us. Maybe

2472
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: is where he wins out and eventually takes over free

2473
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 1: line man. And now I'm hearing that, you know, Eli

2474
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 1: may have already been informed that, hey, Daniel Jones at

2475
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: some point in time here is going to get a shot.

2476
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: So you know, I want to say I'd like to

2477
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 1: pick guys here. But you know it was definitely a

2478
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: head scratcher because I listened to get Leman for two

2479
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: years say hey, we're not taking a quarterback high unless

2480
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 1: we have a first round grade on the player. Well,

2481
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 1: you had that opportunity at number two last year. So

2482
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 1: now if I take get him in at face value,

2483
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: you're telling me you had a higher grade on Daniel

2484
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Jones than any of the quarterbacks that were available at

2485
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: number two last year. It just doesn't add up to me. Well,

2486
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: I I think the difference in the equation is that

2487
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 1: he probably didn't have a high as as high as

2488
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:43,360
Speaker 1: a grade on any of the players this year that

2489
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,800
Speaker 1: he had on se Kwon Barkley last year. That would

2490
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 1: be my guess. You know what I mean, I know

2491
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: what you mean, but I just don't think you can

2492
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 1: ever place a bigger emphasis on a on a running

2493
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 1: back over a franchise quarterback, you know, I mean, I

2494
02:08:57,560 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 1: think that's the common denominator when you look around the league.

2495
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: All these teams in the playoffs, they all have a great,

2496
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:06,000
Speaker 1: great quarterback. And you know, for as good as Ezekiel

2497
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 1: Elliott and Todd Gurley and and Saint Kwon Barkley and

2498
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:12,840
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and and Barry Sanders and the list goes

2499
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 1: on and on, you know, very rarely do running backs

2500
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:19,280
Speaker 1: carry you to the Super Bowl. A franchise quarterback is

2501
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 1: the difference in terms of whether you know, hey, how

2502
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: long Gettleman and Sherman are gonna be here? Because Hey,

2503
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna get inserted early. He's gonna play a

2504
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 1: lot this season, and if he doesn't do well in

2505
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 1: the next year or two, everybody's gonna be looking forward,

2506
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 1: all right. So now that the Picts are at one

2507
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 1: forty eight with the San Francisco forty nine ers were

2508
02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: still a widow always away, Rick Giants won't be going

2509
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: on the board again until the fifth round at number yeah,

2510
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 1: one seventy one. WHOA, that's that's a lot to go.

2511
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 1: So for you to get out your crystal ball is

2512
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. But if you were to see someone

2513
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 1: who has really good value, who you'd be keeping an

2514
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 1: eye on for to potentially drop regardless of need, who

2515
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 1: is it that you would kind of be scratching your

2516
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 1: head about? You know, I like this kid, Isaiah Bugs

2517
02:10:12,120 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 1: out of Alabama. Has a history of injuries, but he's

2518
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: a Juto transferred who played very well this past year

2519
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 1: for the Crimson Tide, and you know, he could actually

2520
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 1: play up and down the defensive line. Brings a little

2521
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 1: bit of ability to get after the quarterback. Um. We

2522
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:30,240
Speaker 1: talked about David Edwards of Wisconsin. I like his teammate

2523
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 1: t J. Edwards. Again, not a great physical specimen. But

2524
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 1: a guy that's just instinctual always shows up around the football. Uh. Swarm,

2525
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, head on the swivel. Everything you want from

2526
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 1: an old school traditional inside linebacker of Giants, Pride and

2527
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 1: all those historic teams. You know, David Edwards would be

2528
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 1: a guy I think really dear him, dear himself not

2529
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 1: only to the style of play to the Giants, but

2530
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 1: also to the Giants fan base. And then Dale and

2531
02:10:57,040 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: Max the defensive tackle before. Yeah, he's one of the

2532
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 1: hot Molley's. I think that that gentleman would probably take

2533
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 1: a look at I thought he flashed down in Mobile.

2534
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:08,879
Speaker 1: I really like that I saw from him. I'm surprised

2535
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 1: he's still on the board. And you know, I I

2536
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:14,760
Speaker 1: know that running back is not a pressing need. Uh.

2537
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 1: Rodney Anderson from Oklahoma, this might be my favorite guy

2538
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: left on the board. I think he can be as

2539
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 1: good as any running back uh that is taken in

2540
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 1: this year's dropping. Then one last guy, Preston Williams from

2541
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 1: Colorado State, the transfer from Tennessee. You watched the film,

2542
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 1: This guy could arguably have been a first round pick.

2543
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 1: A lot of baggage off the field with his fiance

2544
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 1: and a text message scandal. Uh. You know, the whole

2545
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 1: situation with Tyreek Hill obviously doesn't bode well for a

2546
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 1: stock of a Preston Williams. But at the end of

2547
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:47,520
Speaker 1: the day, there there might be a GM willing to

2548
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 1: pull the trigger because this guy can be a difference maker. Rick,

2549
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:55,200
Speaker 1: what position you think you have the most? Uh depth left?

2550
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:57,440
Speaker 1: This deep in the grass? Where you go? Where are

2551
02:11:57,440 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: you gonna find some value at us? At us at

2552
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: a specific position? I I think you know kind of

2553
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 1: what the two positions that gentleman mentioned in his pre

2554
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 1: draft presser was corners and white outs, and I thought,

2555
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, we saw that on day one of the draft.

2556
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 1: We we saw a lot of the receivers and cornerbacks

2557
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 1: penalized because of the death. I thought teams felt like, hey,

2558
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I can wait to get a wide receiver.

2559
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 1: I can wait to get a cornerback. And we just

2560
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 1: saw some guys like a Riley Ridley come off the board.

2561
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin Harmon has been selected yet. I

2562
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 1: don't know has a has a Keen Butler from my

2563
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 1: high Keen Butler was the first Kelvin. Kelvin Harmon from

2564
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 1: n See State. I think he's still on the board. Yeah,

2565
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 1: he is. I'm surprised he's still there. Emmanuel Hall is

2566
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 1: still there, Darius Slayton is still there. If you like um,

2567
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:46,040
Speaker 1: Kelan DAWs, the small school guy, David Sills, Hunter, Rentfro,

2568
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 1: there are some players left. Anthony Ratliffe Williams kind of

2569
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,440
Speaker 1: intrigues me a little too, don't you think. Rick? Yeah,

2570
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,280
Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal pro day from what I heard.

2571
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:56,520
Speaker 1: I heard he was one of the best kept secrets

2572
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 1: down there, and not too many people talking about the

2573
02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:03,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina prospects. A Bot and linebacker Coahocum could be

2574
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 1: a target for the Giants too as well. One of

2575
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 1: the Reds guy. I'm curious. I don't know if the

2576
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:10,760
Speaker 1: Giants necessarily think maybe maybe they do want to give

2577
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 1: you another shot. What about Oregon's Jalen Jelks, Yeah, the

2578
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 1: forgotten pass rush during this year's draft. You know, I

2579
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:21,720
Speaker 1: like what he brings to the table. Even the kitchen agrees,

2580
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:27,360
Speaker 1: we're just uh, but you know, Justice is kind of

2581
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: a forgotten man and someone who's proven to get after

2582
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, Um, I'm not sure he kind

2583
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 1: of fits into the Giants defensive philosophy. But that's kind

2584
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 1: of how I felt about a Shame and him and

2585
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 1: as I think they're very similar in terms of characteristics

2586
02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 1: and treats. In your opinion, are there any guys at

2587
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: offensive tackle left on the board wreck that you think

2588
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 1: you have confidence could compete for a starting spot year one? Uh? Well,

2589
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 1: we mentioned Edwards, you know, uh, the the small school guy,

2590
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 1: Josh Miles. Yeah, I think he's more of a development guy.

2591
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 1: But you know, like, hey, we've seen Trey Pitkins from St. Falls,

2592
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:12,880
Speaker 1: We've seen uh, Titus Howard from Alabama State, and we've

2593
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 1: been seen in years past the Jailien Jailien Julian Davin

2594
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 1: poured a fourth round guy from buck Now, so I'm

2595
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 1: not gonna put it past him just because he is

2596
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:23,000
Speaker 1: from the small school stature. But that's a guy, um

2597
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:25,120
Speaker 1: that I really liked leading up to the process. And

2598
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 1: and you know is another guy who I think he's

2599
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna gonna need some sometime also to project up your

2600
02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 1: NFL draft bible. Not nearly as high on Isaiah Prince

2601
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 1: as some others from Ohio State. Yeah, I mean, you know,

2602
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he's outstanding in one any particular area

2603
02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:46,520
Speaker 1: obviously has some athleticism there, and you know he's more

2604
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 1: of a again, a guy that can provide depth will

2605
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:53,280
Speaker 1: be a rotational, you know, spell spell player in spurts.

2606
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 1: But I just don't see a starting caliber type of

2607
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:58,680
Speaker 1: player when I when I watched him, and you know,

2608
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:01,200
Speaker 1: I listen, he was highly who did I believe coming

2609
02:15:01,240 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 1: out of high school? Uh, had a pretty solid career.

2610
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 1: I just you know, I don't think I see him

2611
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 1: in the upper echelon of offensive lineman. Rick, good stuff, man.

2612
02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:14,160
Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time, Paul, You're good. I'm good.

2613
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. Rick. We appreciate it as always. Rick, enjoy

2614
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:22,280
Speaker 1: the rest absolutely, and enjoy the rest of your SAT. Eric,

2615
02:15:22,360 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 1: and we look forward to your first draft next week.

2616
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:30,560
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy. Appreciate a Ricke NFL Draft Bible. Make sure

2617
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:32,720
Speaker 1: you check it out. You can go to a NFL

2618
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 1: Draft Bible on Twitter and they'll show you how to

2619
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 1: download if you want to check it out. I think

2620
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 1: you know one of the big problems here, John, as

2621
02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 1: we go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. Uh,

2622
02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm noticing. As you know, I did my hum and

2623
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:49,280
Speaker 1: seventy two players, you did a hundred players. Uh, it's

2624
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 1: it's getting harder to find some of these guys because

2625
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:55,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, Okay, who's he And

2626
02:15:55,080 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 1: we're looking in the books and we're scrambling. That's why

2627
02:15:57,400 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 1: I love having a guy like Rick On. Names are

2628
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,440
Speaker 1: coming left and right, and he's like, okay, bang bang

2629
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 1: bang bang bang. These guys do it every single week

2630
02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:08,720
Speaker 1: of the year. You know, John and I are cramming

2631
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,840
Speaker 1: from combine to now, cramming to do whatever we can do.

2632
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:15,720
Speaker 1: But but these guys, when we bring on the Shakas,

2633
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,520
Speaker 1: the Suratelas and the Bruglers and all those other guys,

2634
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 1: they do it fifty two weeks out of the year. Well,

2635
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:22,839
Speaker 1: they're putting their scantting like they're done with their scatting

2636
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 1: reports in in January, when all in the college season

2637
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:27,839
Speaker 1: is over. That's why when they come to the Combine,

2638
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 1: they're fully loaded to talk to us, right and and

2639
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,240
Speaker 1: we're sitting there and you know, I'm trying to finish

2640
02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:34,560
Speaker 1: up all of our season review stuff middle of January,

2641
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:37,080
Speaker 1: and literally I turned on college tape for the first

2642
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 1: time a week before the Senior Bowl. It's hard, It's

2643
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:43,600
Speaker 1: it's very hard. So you know, I I really I

2644
02:16:44,320 --> 02:16:46,720
Speaker 1: want in the worst way to tell you, folks that

2645
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, we did intern Paul that can maybe track

2646
02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:52,480
Speaker 1: some college guys for us over the course of the year. No,

2647
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:55,960
Speaker 1: I I just I continue to always put an asterisk.

2648
02:16:56,840 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 1: I have nothing but the finest respect for all of

2649
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:05,960
Speaker 1: the draft experts, former scouts and pure draft experts that

2650
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 1: we have contribute to our program. I can't thank them

2651
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 1: enough for all that they do to help us present

2652
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 1: information to the fans. Yeah. Again, they're not always gonna

2653
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:17,960
Speaker 1: be right. They're gonna be wrong. Evaluation is is an art,

2654
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 1: not a science. It's subjective. Some people value other qualities

2655
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:26,440
Speaker 1: over others, but it's certainly um something that's valuable and

2656
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:28,960
Speaker 1: more important when we bring these guys on, folks, We

2657
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:31,320
Speaker 1: do it so you get information on the player, Like,

2658
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: how are we going to know that Ryan Connolly played

2659
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 1: who we're gonna have on in a second? By the way,

2660
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:39,640
Speaker 1: we'll ask him about this, played with such a painful,

2661
02:17:40,080 --> 02:17:42,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable injury for an entire season. There's no way for

2662
02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:44,920
Speaker 1: us to know that stuff. So tell me when you're

2663
02:17:44,959 --> 02:17:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna ask him so I can leave the room. Don't

2664
02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:52,240
Speaker 1: we just start with it? Oh man, I won't start

2665
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 1: with it and I don't get to get it out

2666
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:56,440
Speaker 1: of the way. Just get it out of the way.

2667
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:59,400
Speaker 1: They're putting them on hold. Now, just get it out

2668
02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:00,959
Speaker 1: of the way so we can move on. I'm gonna

2669
02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:02,480
Speaker 1: say how I'm gonna ask him to generic, and then

2670
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of the way. Okay, just do it.

2671
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:09,080
Speaker 1: Just ask him, just ask. I'll get it before you

2672
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:11,320
Speaker 1: get your first question. Folks. Folks, you could turn down

2673
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:13,000
Speaker 1: the volume if you want for the next minute and

2674
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:14,880
Speaker 1: a half. No, you don't want to do that, because

2675
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to get to know Ryan Connolly, the

2676
02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:19,760
Speaker 1: newest member of the New York Giants linebacker at Wisconsin. Ryan,

2677
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 1: you got John schmok and pulled the Tino inside the

2678
02:18:21,800 --> 02:18:25,359
Speaker 1: Giants practice facility in East Weather from New Jersey. Congratulations,

2679
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much. Did you have did

2680
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,120
Speaker 1: you have any inkling that the Giants might be calling

2681
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:34,760
Speaker 1: your name on draft day? A little bit? You know,

2682
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:37,400
Speaker 1: just from you know, how my meetings are, you know,

2683
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:41,200
Speaker 1: my pro day and combined went so um no so

2684
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:44,960
Speaker 1: so it's still surreal to get that call. Okay, Ryan,

2685
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 1: from our understanding, talking to a couple of people that

2686
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:50,840
Speaker 1: that studied. Over the course of the year, you played

2687
02:18:50,879 --> 02:18:55,160
Speaker 1: through a pretty painful abdominal injury. That sounds to me

2688
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 1: like it might have been one of the most unpleasant

2689
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:58,960
Speaker 1: things I could possibly imagine. Can you just tell me

2690
02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 1: about the injury, why you decide to play through it,

2691
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:03,680
Speaker 1: and just kind of what that was like for you

2692
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 1: over the course of your last year there, And please

2693
02:19:05,800 --> 02:19:09,200
Speaker 1: don't get too specific in the details, Ryan, because there

2694
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 1: are those of us who ate lunch just a short

2695
02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:16,520
Speaker 1: time ago, right right, No, it's it's it's it's Danguri

2696
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:20,400
Speaker 1: is just commonly known as a sports hernia. UM. And

2697
02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:22,360
Speaker 1: I believe I had it most slides here. I just

2698
02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:24,600
Speaker 1: didn't exactly know what it was until kind of the

2699
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:27,240
Speaker 1: end there, and obviously I wanted to, you know, finish

2700
02:19:27,320 --> 02:19:29,520
Speaker 1: up my senior years, so I kind of just do

2701
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:31,040
Speaker 1: that the end there, it got to a point where

2702
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't really worth it to keep pushing through. And

2703
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:36,360
Speaker 1: that's what I said, that gets fixed. Did it? Did

2704
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 1: it hold you back over the course of the year? Um?

2705
02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:42,920
Speaker 1: In some aspect, Yeah, I wasn't able to, you know,

2706
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:45,200
Speaker 1: get in the weight room like I like I wanted to,

2707
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:48,320
Speaker 1: and it wasn't and I feel the same bursting. You know,

2708
02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I had the same top end

2709
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 1: speed I can normally had, But um, that was about it. Yeah,

2710
02:19:53,320 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine doing squats with something like that. It's

2711
02:19:55,400 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 1: probably a little bit tough, right. Well. I like the

2712
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:03,760
Speaker 1: fact that he just called it sports HERNI because we've

2713
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:06,720
Speaker 1: never heard that. It's very generic, very general, and a

2714
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:10,640
Speaker 1: lot less painful than the actual injury itself. So we

2715
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:15,560
Speaker 1: appreciate your selection of words. Thank you so much, Ryan,

2716
02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Ryan tell us this. You go to Wisconsin, you play

2717
02:20:19,080 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 1: on one of the leading defenses in the nation, had

2718
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:24,440
Speaker 1: a terrific career there, put up some big time numbers.

2719
02:20:24,959 --> 02:20:27,879
Speaker 1: What about playing for the Badgers do you believe has

2720
02:20:27,959 --> 02:20:29,880
Speaker 1: best prepared you to make the jump to the pro

2721
02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:34,200
Speaker 1: pro football in the NFL? Great? Well, I think you

2722
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 1: know our defense with you know coach Leonard having NFL experience,

2723
02:20:38,600 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 1: you know kind of style is defensively run and how

2724
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:42,520
Speaker 1: you know you always gotta be thinking and you always

2725
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:44,280
Speaker 1: gotta be in the right spot. I think you know

2726
02:20:44,400 --> 02:20:47,600
Speaker 1: that that alone will help translate, you know, make me

2727
02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:50,640
Speaker 1: a better player in the NFL for sure. Ryan, tell

2728
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:52,800
Speaker 1: me a little bit about your journey. You weren't a

2729
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:55,720
Speaker 1: guy that was highly recruited. You showed up, you walked

2730
02:20:55,760 --> 02:20:57,879
Speaker 1: on the Wisconsin, you earned your way onto the field.

2731
02:20:57,920 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 1: You weren't one of these guys that was given a

2732
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 1: job with a big scholarship. What do you think that

2733
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:04,359
Speaker 1: says about you and your work ethic in your mindset

2734
02:21:04,879 --> 02:21:09,000
Speaker 1: um as a football player, right, I think the biggest

2735
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:11,800
Speaker 1: thing is that, you know, I I fully understand that

2736
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:14,080
Speaker 1: it's not just gonna be handed to you at first,

2737
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:16,480
Speaker 1: you know. So I think I think that's just kind

2738
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:18,400
Speaker 1: of the mindset I'm going in, you know, you know,

2739
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:21,080
Speaker 1: joining joining the sciences that you know, and I'm not

2740
02:21:21,160 --> 02:21:23,040
Speaker 1: going to be given everything. And I've got to, you know,

2741
02:21:23,120 --> 02:21:26,119
Speaker 1: earn the respect and earn earn every rep I get.

2742
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:28,840
Speaker 1: So I think I think I fully understand that I'm

2743
02:21:28,879 --> 02:21:31,880
Speaker 1: excited to get started, for sure. You know, as a linebacker,

2744
02:21:32,080 --> 02:21:35,480
Speaker 1: you come into an organization that over the course of history,

2745
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:37,840
Speaker 1: and we go back some ways to some of those

2746
02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 1: championship teams. The Giants have had some pretty don good linebackers.

2747
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much you followed the Football Giants.

2748
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:46,680
Speaker 1: You you might have had another team in the NFL

2749
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 1: that you were, uh you know, a favorite with maybe

2750
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:55,560
Speaker 1: the Packers potentially potentially. Uh so what who was your

2751
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:57,119
Speaker 1: favorite team? Let me just get that out of the way.

2752
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:59,000
Speaker 1: Who would you watch? Who did you model yourself after

2753
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:02,280
Speaker 1: when you watch the NFL games? Yeah? But both my

2754
02:22:02,360 --> 02:22:05,199
Speaker 1: per from Wisconsin, so I grew up written for the Packers,

2755
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:09,720
Speaker 1: So that's cool up. Well, well, honestly, if you don't

2756
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:11,480
Speaker 1: root for Green Bay in Wisconsin, I think they throw

2757
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:13,040
Speaker 1: you out of the state. So it was probably a

2758
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 1: pretty smart move on your park, right right, Yeah, I

2759
02:22:16,400 --> 02:22:19,760
Speaker 1: had to do that. So so anyway, Um so, you know,

2760
02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:23,520
Speaker 1: certainly linebacker tradition going back some decades here is something

2761
02:22:23,560 --> 02:22:25,400
Speaker 1: to be proud of when when you step onto the

2762
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 1: field as as a Giants linebacker, does that add extra

2763
02:22:29,160 --> 02:22:31,480
Speaker 1: pressure or or is that the kind of thing you

2764
02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 1: welcome to try to play up to the kind of

2765
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:38,240
Speaker 1: standards and some of those guys before you had set No.

2766
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, definitely excites me because

2767
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't want to, you know,

2768
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:45,440
Speaker 1: try to live up to the standards of you know,

2769
02:22:45,640 --> 02:22:49,160
Speaker 1: being the best and so, um know that that that

2770
02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:51,640
Speaker 1: definitely gets me excited to you know, get parents start working.

2771
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:54,400
Speaker 1: One final one for for me. I read in your

2772
02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:58,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin bio that your cousin andrews Lee played for the

2773
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:02,279
Speaker 1: Islanders in the National Hockey League. Uh, that's that's interesting.

2774
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Usually when we hear about families who sent someone to

2775
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:10,240
Speaker 1: the NFL, there's cousins, brothers, uncles, whatever, also played football.

2776
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 1: You've got a family member who plays hockey. That doesn't

2777
02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:16,640
Speaker 1: happen very often. What's the story behind that one? And

2778
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:22,280
Speaker 1: how much how much do you talk to and see Anders? No? No,

2779
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean I actually in text me a couple days ago,

2780
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 1: I wishing me good luck and um, obviously there in

2781
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,120
Speaker 1: the middle playoffs right now. But yeah, I mean growing

2782
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:32,120
Speaker 1: up in Minnesota, you know, hockey is kind of, you know,

2783
02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:35,720
Speaker 1: the best sport number one. Um, and so I just

2784
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:38,360
Speaker 1: never I never went into it. So I was I

2785
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:40,840
Speaker 1: was always kind of kind of a football guy. So, um,

2786
02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:42,760
Speaker 1: he went hockey and I went football. And that's just

2787
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:44,760
Speaker 1: kind of how hell I went well Ryan for Jihant

2788
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:46,560
Speaker 1: fans and maybe didn't you see a play Wisconsin? How

2789
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:48,280
Speaker 1: would you describe your game? What do you think you're

2790
02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:49,880
Speaker 1: really good at and what are you still working to

2791
02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 1: improve upon? Yeah? I think you know, I think the

2792
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:55,840
Speaker 1: strength is just you know, playing fast and playing down

2793
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:58,640
Speaker 1: the hill, and um, I think that's what I can bring.

2794
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:00,320
Speaker 1: And you know, something to work on is yeah, I

2795
02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 1: think we can I can always get better at you know,

2796
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:05,000
Speaker 1: tackling and just being a smarter player. How much way

2797
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:09,280
Speaker 1: he asked to cover at Wisconsin A decent amount. We

2798
02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:11,000
Speaker 1: we we changed stuff a lot. We did a lot

2799
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:14,200
Speaker 1: of different things, um with respect to how we covered

2800
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:16,200
Speaker 1: and who we covered. So you know, we we we

2801
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:18,959
Speaker 1: did a lot of different stuff schematically. And I got

2802
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,240
Speaker 1: to imagine as a walk on, you probably played a

2803
02:24:21,280 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 1: pretty big role on special teams. What was your role

2804
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:26,000
Speaker 1: there and and how did you contribute on specials for

2805
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:29,080
Speaker 1: the Badgers? Right? I mean, yeah, that's how you know,

2806
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:31,000
Speaker 1: as a linebacker, that's how you get in your shot.

2807
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:33,160
Speaker 1: And so, you know, be on all special teams for

2808
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,200
Speaker 1: the first couple of years and then you know, when

2809
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:38,160
Speaker 1: I started playing intense more kind of a little a

2810
02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:40,000
Speaker 1: little bit less and less. But you know, that was

2811
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:43,240
Speaker 1: something Wisconsin always valued highly and so and something I'm

2812
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:45,280
Speaker 1: grateful for it for sure. Well, Ryan, you'll be doing

2813
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:47,280
Speaker 1: the same thing to start here with the Giants, I'm sure.

2814
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:49,560
Speaker 1: So you better get into that special team's playbook because

2815
02:24:49,560 --> 02:24:51,440
Speaker 1: that's where it starts. And you're right, that's how you're

2816
02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:53,199
Speaker 1: on your way onto the field. So get get ready

2817
02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:55,560
Speaker 1: for it and be aware because an offseason trade with

2818
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:59,040
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh fellow BADGERCK Kevin Zeitler is here and

2819
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:00,960
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna ask you to pick up the tab

2820
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:10,400
Speaker 1: at dinner. Oh, all the best, Thank you, Ryan, Congratulations,

2821
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 1: You look forward to seeing you next week in recommittee camp.

2822
02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:16,480
Speaker 1: That's Ryan Connolly, newest Giants linebackers. Seems like a good kid.

2823
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that. You know, these

2824
02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:22,120
Speaker 1: guys who make it into the league are coming in

2825
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:25,840
Speaker 1: with wide eyes and bushy tails and excited and you

2826
02:25:25,879 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 1: know they want to get going and they're gonna try

2827
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 1: to make an impression on specials because, for example, he

2828
02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:33,600
Speaker 1: knows right now probably looking at the Giants linebacking corps,

2829
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:35,840
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be fighting for a backup job,

2830
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:39,520
Speaker 1: slash special team's job, and try to show something that

2831
02:25:39,640 --> 02:25:42,240
Speaker 1: will force the guys to put him on the field more.

2832
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:45,280
Speaker 1: He said it. Linebacking earned their way onto the field

2833
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:47,640
Speaker 1: by playing special teams. He did at Wisconsin and that's

2834
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:49,480
Speaker 1: what he's gonna have to do here, and attitude is

2835
02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:51,160
Speaker 1: going to be the most important part of that. And look,

2836
02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:54,920
Speaker 1: he walked on and earned the scholarship in a starting

2837
02:25:55,000 --> 02:26:00,320
Speaker 1: job at Wisconsin from Minnesota. Blue collar kid. See what

2838
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:02,920
Speaker 1: he becomes. Won't be afraid of competition, that's for sure,

2839
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,200
Speaker 1: and he'll be competing with Tay Davis and Nate Stupar

2840
02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:09,440
Speaker 1: for those you know, core special team insidelinebacker spots. We

2841
02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 1: said the Giants did need depth at that spot. Absolutely, Okay,

2842
02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:15,360
Speaker 1: so we had a couple of their names in mind,

2843
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:17,280
Speaker 1: but he was a guy that wasn't on our radar.

2844
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:19,760
Speaker 1: But the Giants certainly like what they have him. All right, well,

2845
02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:23,240
Speaker 1: let's keep going there at picks number one fifty three

2846
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 1: Giants again on the clock at one seventy one, and

2847
02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:31,039
Speaker 1: we will see there. John, As you decided to give

2848
02:26:31,160 --> 02:26:35,439
Speaker 1: up the chase for a tackle, I continue, I continue

2849
02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 1: to go after the cheese. And I don't mean that

2850
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:40,800
Speaker 1: as a pun because we just picked the guy from Wisconsin.

2851
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:43,760
Speaker 1: But I am still trying to sniff out the cheese

2852
02:26:43,879 --> 02:26:45,760
Speaker 1: at right tackle. And by the way, even though he

2853
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin, he's from Minnesota, and that must have

2854
02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:51,800
Speaker 1: been dangerous being a Packer fan in Minnesota, by the way,

2855
02:26:51,879 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 1: could have been. We didn't ask him that. Well, those

2856
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Viking fans that they don't like the Packers much, No,

2857
02:26:56,440 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 1: they don't. To one, four, five on three. Let's update

2858
02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:01,680
Speaker 1: the draft board real quick. It's all presented by cores Light.

2859
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2860
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro to the Raiders at selection one nine overall.

2861
02:27:09,480 --> 02:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Kingsley kick defensive tackle from Texas and m good player.

2862
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:15,400
Speaker 1: He goes to the Packers at twelve in the round

2863
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:19,240
Speaker 1: one fifty overall at a hundred fifty first overall, fellow

2864
02:27:19,280 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 1: Wisconsin linebacker, and you Van Ginkel. He goes to the

2865
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. The Falcons up next, Quadre Allison or running

2866
02:27:27,160 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 1: back out of Pittsburgh. It's funny, a lot of running

2867
02:27:29,560 --> 02:27:32,680
Speaker 1: backs that people had high grades on, Dexter Williams, um

2868
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:36,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie Anderson, that's someone Rick mentioned, trevi On Williams. They're

2869
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,800
Speaker 1: still on the board and some other guys are going off.

2870
02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:42,160
Speaker 1: And then Ross pierschbacker center out of Alabama. Could you

2871
02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:44,240
Speaker 1: have more of him? More of an offensive lineman named

2872
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:47,520
Speaker 1: than Ross Pierce Barker. That's pretty tough. I mean, you

2873
02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:50,240
Speaker 1: aren't playing any other position if your name is Ross

2874
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Pierce Barker. Well, let's see that. Larry Michaels is the

2875
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:58,880
Speaker 1: Redskins announcers, So if there is a full start penalty

2876
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:02,560
Speaker 1: on the center uh margin at back five yards, he

2877
02:28:02,680 --> 02:28:06,320
Speaker 1: will have to call out wals Pierce Parker as being

2878
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:09,040
Speaker 1: charged with that penalty. I do not envy him. And

2879
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:11,480
Speaker 1: the Residents do have one of the best offensive lines

2880
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:12,880
Speaker 1: in the league, by the way. They do very good

2881
02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:14,800
Speaker 1: across the lines of that ads and depth of them. There.

2882
02:28:14,840 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 1: The Panthers are on the clock, and as Paul mentioned, uh,

2883
02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 1: let's count them out. Where a one fifty four Paul

2884
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the Giants or one seventy one, so we are seventeen

2885
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:26,920
Speaker 1: picks away and one eighty also and again to our

2886
02:28:27,000 --> 02:28:30,360
Speaker 1: viewers at home, one seventy one his pick number thirty

2887
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:34,160
Speaker 1: three in the fifth round. We fully intend to stay

2888
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:38,040
Speaker 1: till sixth round pick number seven, which is one eighty.

2889
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:40,840
Speaker 1: There's only a difference of nine picks. We would like

2890
02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:42,800
Speaker 1: to stay and see if we can get you that

2891
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 1: number one eighty before we sign off. Yeah, and we'll

2892
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:47,119
Speaker 1: try to have the next second fifth round pick on two.

2893
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:49,400
Speaker 1: So once we get him, I assume that's probably gonna

2894
02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:52,400
Speaker 1: be around when that final pick gets made, give or take.

2895
02:28:52,680 --> 02:28:54,680
Speaker 1: We'll have him on the program. Then we'll say goodbye.

2896
02:28:54,760 --> 02:28:56,520
Speaker 1: So we still got people on the line for on

2897
02:28:56,600 --> 02:28:59,120
Speaker 1: the phones at two, one, four, five on three. They've

2898
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,640
Speaker 1: been waiting patiently. Let's get back to him, Robert, and

2899
02:29:01,720 --> 02:29:07,360
Speaker 1: San Diego has been holding the longest. Hello, Robert, thanks

2900
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 1: for taking my call for calling in. What's up? You know,

2901
02:29:10,640 --> 02:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys for a long time.

2902
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm out in San Diego and I have to I

2903
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:16,279
Speaker 1: listen to this on my way to work and stuff

2904
02:29:16,320 --> 02:29:19,080
Speaker 1: like that. I never actually get to, like, I'm always

2905
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 1: shouting and screen up my phone or I disagree or agree.

2906
02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm greateful for the opportunity to actually be

2907
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:26,960
Speaker 1: on the line for one. Well you want to here, Robert,

2908
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,080
Speaker 1: here's the good thing. Now you can scream at us

2909
02:29:29,120 --> 02:29:33,840
Speaker 1: at how we're stupid in person, So go right ahead. Look,

2910
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are stupid, and I'm and

2911
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm awful everyone being a titled to their opinion, and well,

2912
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:39,840
Speaker 1: of course you know we all leave blue in New

2913
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:44,400
Speaker 1: York Giant Nations. So you know, I got some gripes

2914
02:29:44,440 --> 02:29:46,800
Speaker 1: about this Daniel Jones pick, and I'm sorry to be

2915
02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:49,480
Speaker 1: the dead horse, but it's not about Daniel Jones. You know,

2916
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:52,560
Speaker 1: people to be so critical of this guy and smash

2917
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:54,800
Speaker 1: him the way they are in the media everywhere. Hey,

2918
02:29:54,959 --> 02:29:56,480
Speaker 1: you know this, there's a human being, and he's a

2919
02:29:56,520 --> 02:29:58,800
Speaker 1: professional quarterback and he's gonna be one. Whether he's gonna

2920
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:01,680
Speaker 1: be the next Tom Brady or you know, I don't

2921
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:04,680
Speaker 1: know what the the car Brothers, you never know, but

2922
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:07,600
Speaker 1: either way, he's going to be a professional player. And

2923
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to give the guy that much respect.

2924
02:30:09,879 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 1: But to take him at number six, you know, only

2925
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:16,000
Speaker 1: because when you tell the fans that you're gonna draft

2926
02:30:16,040 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 1: their talent. Uh. And I don't know, it's a tough

2927
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,879
Speaker 1: one because you could have traded down. Well, see Robert,

2928
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:28,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing, taking the Barco pick from them. Well

2929
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:30,520
Speaker 1: here's Robert, here's the thing. I think the only place

2930
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:34,119
Speaker 1: you could have realistically traded down to and still feel

2931
02:30:34,120 --> 02:30:36,840
Speaker 1: pretty good about getting to him were the Bills at nine.

2932
02:30:37,320 --> 02:30:39,040
Speaker 1: And I think they were thinking about moving up for

2933
02:30:39,080 --> 02:30:41,240
Speaker 1: at Oliver and I think maybe that's the only place

2934
02:30:41,320 --> 02:30:45,040
Speaker 1: you could have went and felt comfortable about it. But

2935
02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Bills are willing to offer

2936
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:49,120
Speaker 1: to give up to move up number one and number

2937
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:52,440
Speaker 1: two if you believe. And look, I know, Giant fans,

2938
02:30:52,480 --> 02:30:55,879
Speaker 1: because of how the media analyzed Daniel Jones and frankly

2939
02:30:55,879 --> 02:30:57,039
Speaker 1: how a lot of people we had on the show

2940
02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:59,400
Speaker 1: analyzed Daniel Jones, didn't see him as that high of

2941
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:03,120
Speaker 1: a pick. The Giants evaluated him as that high of

2942
02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:06,160
Speaker 1: a pick. They had a similar or identical grade on

2943
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 1: him as they had on Josh Allen. Obviously, some people

2944
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:12,360
Speaker 1: are gonna disagree with that. We understand that. But once

2945
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 1: you accept that, that's where the Giants had him graded,

2946
02:31:16,320 --> 02:31:18,560
Speaker 1: and they believed in their heart of heart that he

2947
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:21,959
Speaker 1: was their best option to do the next franchise quarterback,

2948
02:31:22,959 --> 02:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you can risk losing him. Yeah, look,

2949
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 1: I get you there, But if you just take Josh

2950
02:31:29,440 --> 02:31:32,879
Speaker 1: Allen at six, you offered Denver your your second round pick,

2951
02:31:32,959 --> 02:31:35,400
Speaker 1: and your pick number seventeen, you take Denver spot they

2952
02:31:35,440 --> 02:31:37,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they would have been more than comfortable

2953
02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:39,720
Speaker 1: trading back. There was no urgency in their pick. And

2954
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:43,360
Speaker 1: then you take, uh, you know, you you take your

2955
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:45,400
Speaker 1: quarterback there, you still would have got the same guy.

2956
02:31:45,560 --> 02:31:48,279
Speaker 1: But you know, when you think about what you pick overall,

2957
02:31:48,360 --> 02:31:50,480
Speaker 1: that's what you could have got. Six to Josh Allen,

2958
02:31:50,520 --> 02:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that's where the value is a big difference. Yeah,

2959
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:56,400
Speaker 1: but you know what you're you're assuming. You know, the

2960
02:31:56,480 --> 02:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Giants took a big risk on Pierre Paul when they

2961
02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:01,400
Speaker 1: picked him, think it was tents overall back in two

2962
02:32:01,400 --> 02:32:03,600
Speaker 1: thousands and tens something like that, because he was a

2963
02:32:03,680 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 1: freakish athlete and it panned out. So he blew his

2964
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 1: hand off. And you know, the Patriots had they chose

2965
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Uh. I don't remember where they I don't

2966
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:14,840
Speaker 1: even think they had a first round pick in back,

2967
02:32:15,879 --> 02:32:18,640
Speaker 1: but you know they chose Tom Brady and their first pick,

2968
02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it was the second round. People probably would

2969
02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:23,360
Speaker 1: have freaked out and drew Bledsoe was coming off a

2970
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,280
Speaker 1: season where he threw more tough interceptions and touchdowns and

2971
02:32:26,879 --> 02:32:29,440
Speaker 1: they might have won maybe eight seven games that year.

2972
02:32:29,440 --> 02:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, but it was obviously

2973
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:36,240
Speaker 1: time to look towards maybe a quarterback um and you know,

2974
02:32:36,320 --> 02:32:38,800
Speaker 1: they found one of the greatest quarterbacks ever in the

2975
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:41,920
Speaker 1: fifth round. You know, if he had drafted him in

2976
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:43,720
Speaker 1: the second round, people probably would have freaked out. And

2977
02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:45,360
Speaker 1: obviously it panned out, but you still got to look

2978
02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 1: at value. So if Daniel Jones wins six super Bowls

2979
02:32:48,600 --> 02:32:51,360
Speaker 1: and and you know, is a unanimous decision for a

2980
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:53,600
Speaker 1: gold jacket, you're still not kind of look back at

2981
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:55,560
Speaker 1: this and say they did everything they could to get

2982
02:32:55,600 --> 02:32:59,119
Speaker 1: the most about I see, I I disagree there because

2983
02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:02,600
Speaker 1: there is no gar he's there at seventeen. You're assuming

2984
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,520
Speaker 1: that you know he's gonna be there at seventeen. Jenny Venturous,

2985
02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:08,480
Speaker 1: who's a very good reporter from Monday Morning Quarterback, tweeted

2986
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday night that he would not have been available

2987
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:13,320
Speaker 1: for the Giants at seventeen if they would have waited.

2988
02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:15,959
Speaker 1: There are people that think the Redskins would have selected

2989
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:18,360
Speaker 1: him instead of Dwayne Haskins because the coaching stay have

2990
02:33:18,440 --> 02:33:21,520
Speaker 1: liked him better than Haskins. So while again while a

2991
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:23,959
Speaker 1: lot of people believe he might have been there at seventeen,

2992
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:26,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, he might have been there at seventeen, I

2993
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:28,600
Speaker 1: don't know that Paul doesn't know that, nobody knows that.

2994
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,400
Speaker 1: If you believe that he's your guy, you can't risk

2995
02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:34,680
Speaker 1: it because, like you said, if you're sitting there and

2996
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:37,960
Speaker 1: in fifteen years from now, Daniel Jones is a four

2997
02:33:38,040 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion for another team, and you're gonna

2998
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:43,760
Speaker 1: sit there and say, boy, we really made a good

2999
02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:45,960
Speaker 1: move because Josh Allen was better value at six. Now

3000
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to You're gonna want to jump off

3001
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:50,400
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bridge because you didn't pick the guy that

3002
02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:54,600
Speaker 1: you thought was your franchise quarterback. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, right,

3003
02:33:54,680 --> 02:33:56,680
Speaker 1: that's I mean, you can say that. Then I'm just

3004
02:33:56,720 --> 02:34:00,160
Speaker 1: saying when you if this is uh somebody, we're a

3005
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 1: complaint that this is a gentleman the whole like win

3006
02:34:02,560 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 1: now and you know, draft for talent, and it just

3007
02:34:05,080 --> 02:34:07,640
Speaker 1: doesn't it just doesn't seem like that's what he did.

3008
02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:14,280
Speaker 1: But again, but they but they did right understand that. No, Robert,

3009
02:34:14,320 --> 02:34:17,200
Speaker 1: good stuff and I and I appreciate your opinion and

3010
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:21,080
Speaker 1: the call, But I think what people are missing they're

3011
02:34:21,080 --> 02:34:24,080
Speaker 1: assuming the Giants did not have the great on him

3012
02:34:24,160 --> 02:34:27,680
Speaker 1: to make him a valuable pick at six, because the

3013
02:34:27,800 --> 02:34:31,200
Speaker 1: media didn't. And I think that's where people are missing it.

3014
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:33,400
Speaker 1: And the people we had on the show didn't okay

3015
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:35,920
Speaker 1: when we talked about it. But the bottom line is

3016
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:38,879
Speaker 1: that that's where the Giants had him graded. They had

3017
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:42,720
Speaker 1: they he matched value to the pick. Now, if you

3018
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:45,320
Speaker 1: choose not to believe that, and you believe they're lying,

3019
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:48,160
Speaker 1: well that's on you. I'm not gonna be able to

3020
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:50,560
Speaker 1: change your mind. All I can go on is what

3021
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:54,680
Speaker 1: the Giant said. I've seen Dave Gentleman select the best

3022
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:58,040
Speaker 1: player regardless of position in his two years here. He

3023
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:00,960
Speaker 1: did it in Carolina, So I have no reason to

3024
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:03,160
Speaker 1: think that he's all of a sudden changes philosophy and

3025
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:05,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna draft that in need. I just don't see it.

3026
02:35:05,920 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 1: How many times is he stressed over the last two years.

3027
02:35:08,800 --> 02:35:11,280
Speaker 1: You cannot reach for the quarterback and get the wrong guy.

3028
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:13,440
Speaker 1: The other side of that coin is that you have

3029
02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:15,920
Speaker 1: the right guy. And I'll say this again, I'll say

3030
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:20,400
Speaker 1: it a million times. If you find your next franchise quarterback,

3031
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:25,320
Speaker 1: the price cannot be too high. If you get the

3032
02:35:25,360 --> 02:35:28,480
Speaker 1: next Elne Manning, the price can't be too high. Does

3033
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:31,520
Speaker 1: anybody care that the Giants gave up three first round

3034
02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:34,200
Speaker 1: picks free line Manning today? Does anybody care about that?

3035
02:35:34,360 --> 02:35:36,720
Speaker 1: Or what was the two ones in it too. No

3036
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:41,560
Speaker 1: nobody cares. Nobody cares because he got you your Super Bowls.

3037
02:35:42,320 --> 02:35:45,080
Speaker 1: And that's what this is gonna come down to. What

3038
02:35:45,320 --> 02:35:48,560
Speaker 1: type of player is Daniel Jones? Who knows how long

3039
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:50,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wait to find out, Paul, But

3040
02:35:51,680 --> 02:35:54,400
Speaker 1: when we do, well know if it was the right decision,

3041
02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:58,200
Speaker 1: and we'll have to wait and see. And until that time,

3042
02:35:58,280 --> 02:36:01,280
Speaker 1: it really doesn't help to keep repeating yourself. And I'm

3043
02:36:01,400 --> 02:36:05,720
Speaker 1: tired of doing it already. Look, look, we're still doing

3044
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:08,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Fans get it. I Look, I understand why

3045
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 1: fans are upset. It's been drilled into their heads by

3046
02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:14,800
Speaker 1: media analysts that this kid was a you know, early

3047
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:17,560
Speaker 1: second round, late first round pick, and you know, not

3048
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:19,880
Speaker 1: the top quarterback in the draft. And that's what fans

3049
02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 1: were let to believe. But the front offices have a

3050
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 1: lot more information, They know a lot more about the players,

3051
02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:28,280
Speaker 1: and maybe they value things differently than these than these

3052
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:31,760
Speaker 1: media analysts too. And I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong.

3053
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:34,440
Speaker 1: We'll find out, but the Giants, with a lot more

3054
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:36,760
Speaker 1: information that we have, believe they are right, and when

3055
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:40,279
Speaker 1: the kid plays, we'll find out. And it's really that simple.

3056
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 1: And when a GM and a coach go with a

3057
02:36:43,480 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 1: young quarterback, whenever that happens to be, they tie themselves

3058
02:36:46,520 --> 02:36:49,360
Speaker 1: to that quarterback. Pat Shermoan, Dave Gentleman know that they

3059
02:36:49,440 --> 02:36:51,600
Speaker 1: know they're tied to this kid. And if you think

3060
02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that anybody in any business would tie themselves to something

3061
02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:57,800
Speaker 1: that they didn't think was going to succeed, you're crazy.

3062
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:02,880
Speaker 1: It's self destructive. And that not what these guys did. Agreed.

3063
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:06,840
Speaker 1: By the way, a couple of linebackers coming off to

3064
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Damn my guy. Mack Wilson liked him too. I had

3065
02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:12,360
Speaker 1: him at the top of my linebacker chart coming into

3066
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the day from Alabama. Goes to the Browns at seventeen

3067
02:37:15,160 --> 02:37:16,920
Speaker 1: in the round. Browns they pretty good by the way

3068
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:19,040
Speaker 1: they got. They had no first round pick, remember, but

3069
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:22,480
Speaker 1: they got Gritty Williams and Mack Wilson and Shawn Taki.

3070
02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Taki you like that, it's a great name. Justin Hollins,

3071
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, goes to the Browns at eighteen and he's

3072
02:37:31,160 --> 02:37:32,720
Speaker 1: actually would have been a good fit for the Giants

3073
02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:36,199
Speaker 1: three four to Again, I think both of the Oregon backers.

3074
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:37,800
Speaker 1: He went to the Broncos. By the way, not not

3075
02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:40,600
Speaker 1: the Browns. Oh I I did I say that? Okay,

3076
02:37:40,879 --> 02:37:43,119
Speaker 1: it was your first mistaken three days is actually pretty impressive.

3077
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Um my brain is must right now. Blake Cashman, linebacker

3078
02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:53,560
Speaker 1: from two of the Jets. So actually three linebackers in

3079
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:56,680
Speaker 1: a row coming off of the board here and at seventeen,

3080
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:59,640
Speaker 1: eighteen and nineteen in the fifth round, and the Jets

3081
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:01,440
Speaker 1: at the Titans picked there, I guess, and there must

3082
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:03,720
Speaker 1: have been a trade. So yeah, but you know you

3083
02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:07,080
Speaker 1: heard me mentioned earlier when we were talking to uh

3084
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:10,920
Speaker 1: to Rick Saratilla. Jalen Jenks is the other outside linebacker

3085
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,480
Speaker 1: in the three four from the Ducks, who you know.

3086
02:38:13,720 --> 02:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I only mentioned him because I'm thinking again, as we're

3087
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 1: getting into the later rounds, if the Giants want to

3088
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,840
Speaker 1: go for another edge guy, he would certainly be someone

3089
02:38:20,879 --> 02:38:24,119
Speaker 1: I'd look at. If if again, that's the direction they'd

3090
02:38:24,200 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 1: like to go, I feel compelled to continue to chase

3091
02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:31,360
Speaker 1: the two right tackles. Prince has not been taken, I

3092
02:38:31,400 --> 02:38:33,280
Speaker 1: would be and Edwards is not. I would be more

3093
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:35,080
Speaker 1: comfortable with either one of those two guys. I also

3094
02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:36,920
Speaker 1: think there are some good wide receivers on the board

3095
02:38:36,959 --> 02:38:39,240
Speaker 1: that are worth looking at at this point. Yeah, you know,

3096
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm a right left Williams guy. I got the position

3097
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:44,240
Speaker 1: right last time I've had the wrong player. But I'm

3098
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:46,920
Speaker 1: thinking either tackle or wide receiver at the spot. That's

3099
02:38:46,959 --> 02:38:49,320
Speaker 1: my guest, because I think you mentioned the needed tackle

3100
02:38:49,400 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 1: and I think you're starting to reach hit value now

3101
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:54,440
Speaker 1: in round five where you're hitting it with a little

3102
02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:57,000
Speaker 1: bit more with with the offensive tackle laying round five

3103
02:38:57,320 --> 02:38:59,200
Speaker 1: and I think there are some good wide receivers left.

3104
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:01,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, just all crazy this draft has

3105
02:39:01,360 --> 02:39:03,800
Speaker 1: been this picked that the Cowboys are making here at

3106
02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:07,000
Speaker 1: number twenty. It went to the Steelers, to the Raiders,

3107
02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:10,640
Speaker 1: to the Bills, back to the Raiders, and then to

3108
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:15,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's how crazy all these trades have been

3109
02:39:15,160 --> 02:39:17,640
Speaker 1: over the course of this track. Pretty amazing. Five different

3110
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:20,360
Speaker 1: teams and the same team has helped to pick on

3111
02:39:20,480 --> 02:39:27,720
Speaker 1: two different gases. Yes, yes, folks again, let show this

3112
02:39:27,800 --> 02:39:33,720
Speaker 1: you last night. The Red, the Red his trades. It's

3113
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of red, and there's a lot more in

3114
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:38,200
Speaker 1: rounds two and three. By the way, just saying so

3115
02:39:38,280 --> 02:39:40,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are on the clock right now. We're waiting

3116
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:41,920
Speaker 1: to get there picked. For some reason, they're showing football

3117
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,959
Speaker 1: from the fifties on NFL network, This would be pick

3118
02:39:45,080 --> 02:39:49,040
Speaker 1: number one fifty eight if you're trying to calculate, which

3119
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:52,400
Speaker 1: means the Giants are gonna be coming up at one

3120
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:57,520
Speaker 1: seventy one, which is picks away, and then one eight,

3121
02:39:58,760 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 1: which you know will probably be our last pick, and

3122
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:05,400
Speaker 1: then we will finally collapse. Jeff from Long Island is

3123
02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:10,440
Speaker 1: up next. Hey Jeff, Hi guys, and uh, you're doing

3124
02:40:10,480 --> 02:40:13,440
Speaker 1: a great job for the last two nights or two days.

3125
02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:18,240
Speaker 1: And so before I get to my main point, and

3126
02:40:18,400 --> 02:40:23,400
Speaker 1: I watched the Thursday night MSG program and when the

3127
02:40:23,480 --> 02:40:27,080
Speaker 1: pig was announced for Daniel Jones, there was a moment

3128
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:31,640
Speaker 1: of silence, then Bob Poppa saying stunning or stunned, and

3129
02:40:32,080 --> 02:40:36,320
Speaker 1: all three of them just didn't know how to initially react,

3130
02:40:36,440 --> 02:40:42,800
Speaker 1: although call Banks did start, uh, you know, commenting, and hey,

3131
02:40:42,800 --> 02:40:46,320
Speaker 1: look Jeff. The bottom line is that everyone, Jeff, everyone

3132
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:49,840
Speaker 1: was surprised. And that's the that's and that's what a

3133
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:55,320
Speaker 1: great job the Giants front office did hiding their intentions.

3134
02:40:55,720 --> 02:40:58,959
Speaker 1: We were all surprised. And that's, by the way, probably

3135
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:00,560
Speaker 1: in the end of good thing, because it means no

3136
02:41:00,600 --> 02:41:01,800
Speaker 1: one knew that they had to get in front of

3137
02:41:01,840 --> 02:41:03,680
Speaker 1: the Giants to get the player. They were trying to

3138
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:07,720
Speaker 1: get it. Six everyone who's wrong, and that's basically everybody

3139
02:41:08,240 --> 02:41:11,640
Speaker 1: can chry sour grapes and say, oh, you know, I've

3140
02:41:11,720 --> 02:41:14,840
Speaker 1: got it wrong, So that the Giants must have been

3141
02:41:14,840 --> 02:41:17,760
Speaker 1: the ones who are wrong. They're foolish, they're crazy, they're stupid.

3142
02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:21,480
Speaker 1: I was right and they should have done what I said. Well,

3143
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, fine, if you want to do that, go ahead,

3144
02:41:23,959 --> 02:41:26,000
Speaker 1: we'll find out. Go go go to the candy store,

3145
02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:28,040
Speaker 1: buy some candy, suck on it for a while, and

3146
02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:31,080
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself this afternoon. Go ahead yet. But but you know,

3147
02:41:31,720 --> 02:41:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, after a couple of seconds or so, I

3148
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I totally was on board with the pick. And secondly,

3149
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:39,760
Speaker 1: just as another aside, you know, I think the NFL

3150
02:41:39,920 --> 02:41:43,080
Speaker 1: network had a series of a few years ago about

3151
02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:46,840
Speaker 1: scouts and how they go about their business, and they

3152
02:41:46,959 --> 02:41:51,000
Speaker 1: keep on the New York Giants scouts. He wants to

3153
02:41:51,120 --> 02:41:54,920
Speaker 1: see the nuts and bolts and the down and dirty

3154
02:41:55,000 --> 02:41:58,040
Speaker 1: on what scouts have to go through and white in

3155
02:41:58,200 --> 02:42:02,520
Speaker 1: all in in all fairness, they do a great job

3156
02:42:02,920 --> 02:42:06,520
Speaker 1: in getting their information together, and I'm on board with

3157
02:42:06,640 --> 02:42:09,920
Speaker 1: them too. Well, I I'll tell you what I will

3158
02:42:10,000 --> 02:42:11,960
Speaker 1: pass that along the next time I see the guys

3159
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:15,199
Speaker 1: out in the hallway, because I don't think the fans

3160
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:18,800
Speaker 1: really appreciate those guys enough for all the blood, sweat

3161
02:42:18,840 --> 02:42:21,760
Speaker 1: and tears they put in. Everybody just thinks that they've

3162
02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:25,080
Speaker 1: get him in. The GM makes these decisions on his own. Well,

3163
02:42:25,160 --> 02:42:28,440
Speaker 1: the amount of information and the flow of stuff that

3164
02:42:28,520 --> 02:42:31,520
Speaker 1: has to come into his office from those guys is

3165
02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:35,480
Speaker 1: almost infinite. Gettleman makes the final decision, but all his

3166
02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:39,320
Speaker 1: decisions are based upon the information that his scouts give him,

3167
02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:41,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And Chris Pettitt, the college

3168
02:42:41,440 --> 02:42:45,760
Speaker 1: direct scouting, is the organizer who helps Dave Gettleman collect

3169
02:42:45,879 --> 02:42:49,800
Speaker 1: everything and put it in order. And Dave get Getleman

3170
02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:57,480
Speaker 1: did invite them back to the Giants, uh the weekend? Yeah,

3171
02:42:57,480 --> 02:42:59,680
Speaker 1: and and finding Giants, by the way, was the name

3172
02:42:59,720 --> 02:43:03,000
Speaker 1: of that, correct, right, It was excellent. But to my

3173
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,320
Speaker 1: main point, UH, as as poor as you go and

3174
02:43:06,440 --> 02:43:12,120
Speaker 1: look for your elusive offensive tackle, right tackle? What what

3175
02:43:12,440 --> 02:43:16,160
Speaker 1: is Wheeler thinking of right now? As he may be

3176
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:18,800
Speaker 1: sitting on the West coast and he's watching this draft

3177
02:43:19,280 --> 02:43:22,080
Speaker 1: process go through, and he says, you know what, maybe

3178
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:25,080
Speaker 1: the Giants are giving me a chance to really prove myself.

3179
02:43:25,160 --> 02:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Maybe there's enough there that I did the first year,

3180
02:43:28,520 --> 02:43:32,480
Speaker 1: now that I have somebody to my left, as in

3181
02:43:32,760 --> 02:43:36,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler, who who may have a stronger impact on

3182
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:40,840
Speaker 1: me than the previous incarnations of the right guard. So

3183
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:45,119
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's something to uh, you know, our

3184
02:43:45,440 --> 02:43:49,720
Speaker 1: current right tackle that may vote well. Although competition is

3185
02:43:49,800 --> 02:43:53,359
Speaker 1: great and I look forward to seeing how that all transpires.

3186
02:43:53,840 --> 02:43:57,040
Speaker 1: But maybe Chat Wheeler, you know, has a good shot. Well,

3187
02:43:57,280 --> 02:44:00,600
Speaker 1: let me address that, because I happen to see Chad

3188
02:44:00,600 --> 02:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Wheeler quite often here over the course of the last week,

3189
02:44:03,280 --> 02:44:05,680
Speaker 1: he and Melo. He's been here for even going back

3190
02:44:05,720 --> 02:44:08,400
Speaker 1: to before the players reported he's been here locked uh

3191
02:44:08,600 --> 02:44:12,640
Speaker 1: working on his own okay, and now in the strength

3192
02:44:12,680 --> 02:44:15,480
Speaker 1: and conditioning off season program which started about a week

3193
02:44:15,560 --> 02:44:18,200
Speaker 1: or so ago. I just saw Chat the other day

3194
02:44:18,200 --> 02:44:20,680
Speaker 1: in the lunch room, and and I see him a lot,

3195
02:44:21,040 --> 02:44:24,640
Speaker 1: good guy, constantly working on his craft. Looks like he's

3196
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:26,480
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger up top, a little more thick,

3197
02:44:26,520 --> 02:44:28,640
Speaker 1: a little more physical he should be. He's not a

3198
02:44:28,720 --> 02:44:32,080
Speaker 1: rookie anymore. He's starting to mature physically, and of course

3199
02:44:32,400 --> 02:44:35,720
Speaker 1: from a football perspective as well, coming out of USC

3200
02:44:36,400 --> 02:44:39,720
Speaker 1: And honestly, if you think about it, if the Giants

3201
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:42,920
Speaker 1: were to draft a competent right tackle who can compete

3202
02:44:42,959 --> 02:44:46,160
Speaker 1: for that starting job, that should make the position better

3203
02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:49,320
Speaker 1: because the better man is going to be forced to win.

3204
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:53,520
Speaker 1: Then the guy who doesn't win becomes the swing tackle.

3205
02:44:53,840 --> 02:44:56,640
Speaker 1: And right now, if you're the Giants, I'm gonna ask

3206
02:44:56,720 --> 02:45:01,680
Speaker 1: you who is the swing tackle behind Soldier and Wheeler? Well,

3207
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,120
Speaker 1: it originally it was thought to be Chad Wheeler, right,

3208
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:09,480
Speaker 1: But he's now the starter, right, He's the starter because

3209
02:45:09,760 --> 02:45:12,760
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers is gone. So now who's the swing tackle?

3210
02:45:12,840 --> 02:45:15,520
Speaker 1: In your mind? Opening day Week one? Who should be

3211
02:45:15,640 --> 02:45:20,200
Speaker 1: the swing tackle? Well, that's what I'm saying, don't have

3212
02:45:20,320 --> 02:45:23,160
Speaker 1: on It was mentioned as Chad Wheeler being the guy

3213
02:45:23,440 --> 02:45:26,320
Speaker 1: originally if somebody was going to supplant him, right, So

3214
02:45:26,720 --> 02:45:30,560
Speaker 1: the Giants still need one, right, maybe happening? Who knows? Right? Well,

3215
02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:33,800
Speaker 1: that's my point, I guess, and maybe I'm misinterpreting your question,

3216
02:45:33,879 --> 02:45:36,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry if i am. The point is you

3217
02:45:36,840 --> 02:45:39,800
Speaker 1: have to bring in not only competition for Chad Wheeler

3218
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,800
Speaker 1: to find out who the best guy is to start.

3219
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:46,560
Speaker 1: You also need somebody here you feel good about as

3220
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:49,840
Speaker 1: the number three. If Chad Wheeler loses to a rookie

3221
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:53,000
Speaker 1: and is the number three, well, that's still better for

3222
02:45:53,080 --> 02:45:56,080
Speaker 1: the team. If Chad Wheeler holds off a rookie who

3223
02:45:56,160 --> 02:45:59,280
Speaker 1: you might bring in, that's also better for the team.

3224
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Because right now, I don't think the Giants have three

3225
02:46:03,480 --> 02:46:05,760
Speaker 1: tackles that they feel good about to put into an

3226
02:46:05,879 --> 02:46:09,680
Speaker 1: NFL game. Okay, but the fact is that since they

3227
02:46:09,760 --> 02:46:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't look for somebody on the right side in the

3228
02:46:12,840 --> 02:46:17,200
Speaker 1: first three rounds, whoever that may have been, would have

3229
02:46:17,320 --> 02:46:21,879
Speaker 1: had a very strong opportunity to win the sure more

3230
02:46:21,959 --> 02:46:26,039
Speaker 1: so than somebody in the latter three. Sure, absolutely no question.

3231
02:46:26,080 --> 02:46:29,720
Speaker 1: I won't disagree with that at all. But again, it's

3232
02:46:29,760 --> 02:46:33,360
Speaker 1: all about competition at at positions that you have not

3233
02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:36,240
Speaker 1: put in concrete, and I think all of us would

3234
02:46:36,280 --> 02:46:40,279
Speaker 1: agree the right tackle position is not inconcrete, and anybody

3235
02:46:40,560 --> 02:46:43,600
Speaker 1: that you can get who can push and compete for

3236
02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:46,039
Speaker 1: that job needs to be brought in. And I'm gonna

3237
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:48,000
Speaker 1: say this to you right now. If it turns out

3238
02:46:48,040 --> 02:46:50,080
Speaker 1: to be an undrafted rookie free agent and they don't

3239
02:46:50,120 --> 02:46:53,600
Speaker 1: draft anybody, I hope they find the best undrafted rookie

3240
02:46:53,640 --> 02:46:56,360
Speaker 1: free agent tackle in the country and that guy comes

3241
02:46:56,400 --> 02:46:58,320
Speaker 1: in here and is able to earn a spot on

3242
02:46:58,400 --> 02:47:01,640
Speaker 1: the fifty three. And I agree totally. It's just that

3243
02:47:02,120 --> 02:47:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, now where chat Wheel it was before the

3244
02:47:05,160 --> 02:47:07,440
Speaker 1: draft to where he is right now. I think he's

3245
02:47:07,480 --> 02:47:10,360
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit better about himself. He should. He's

3246
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:15,880
Speaker 1: worked hard. Appreciate the goal. I hope I've explained that. Okay, yeah,

3247
02:47:15,879 --> 02:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I think he did. By the way, our body fuche

3248
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:21,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Fusili over at MS. She puts out that um

3249
02:47:22,120 --> 02:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Connolly's cousin Um anders Leander's anders Lee. What does that

3250
02:47:29,160 --> 02:47:31,280
Speaker 1: he was a high school quarterback and was actually highly

3251
02:47:31,320 --> 02:47:34,560
Speaker 1: recruited as a college quarterback before he decided to play hockey. Oh, whoa,

3252
02:47:35,400 --> 02:47:38,200
Speaker 1: We didn't he didn't tell us that about his relative. No,

3253
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:44,280
Speaker 1: I just did. Well, thank you, FuG I'm sorry. He's

3254
02:47:44,280 --> 02:47:46,720
Speaker 1: probably dying for that Rutgers safety get taken. The Giants

3255
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:48,680
Speaker 1: haven't taken a safety yet, mean, not a bad Day

3256
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,879
Speaker 1: three pick, actually safety out of Ruckers. I'll double check

3257
02:47:51,920 --> 02:47:53,360
Speaker 1: on the name, but I did watch him a couple

3258
02:47:53,360 --> 02:47:55,840
Speaker 1: of days ago. Let's go to Leo from New Milford.

3259
02:47:55,920 --> 02:47:57,760
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hello Leo, And by the way, Rashon

3260
02:47:57,840 --> 02:47:59,400
Speaker 1: from New York was holding for a while. He lost

3261
02:47:59,480 --> 02:48:01,760
Speaker 1: in Rashana. You call back, We'll make sure we get

3262
02:48:01,800 --> 02:48:05,039
Speaker 1: your right up, so Leo go ahead. Okay, thanks John,

3263
02:48:05,120 --> 02:48:08,240
Speaker 1: Paul doing a great job. Really appreciated. You've kind of

3264
02:48:08,320 --> 02:48:13,200
Speaker 1: talked the fans off the ledge. I mean was difficult,

3265
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:16,440
Speaker 1: and it's because the media. We look at different variables.

3266
02:48:16,959 --> 02:48:18,840
Speaker 1: Now what I do. I have some friends out in

3267
02:48:18,920 --> 02:48:23,920
Speaker 1: Colorado Denver had their eye on Jones. And it's ironic

3268
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:26,920
Speaker 1: as soon as we picked Jones, they traded as that

3269
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:32,440
Speaker 1: they traded down. But does make someone suspicious, doesn't it? Yeah?

3270
02:48:32,560 --> 02:48:35,280
Speaker 1: But but who knows it? It's the old theory of

3271
02:48:35,360 --> 02:48:38,160
Speaker 1: who she said? He said. You kind of go back

3272
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:41,680
Speaker 1: and forth, but it's it's one of those things that

3273
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:44,640
Speaker 1: you look to now, Paul, we just said of we

3274
02:48:44,800 --> 02:48:49,320
Speaker 1: want the best available tackle as a free agent. We

3275
02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:54,720
Speaker 1: want the best available player tackle, guard, center that exists

3276
02:48:54,760 --> 02:48:57,200
Speaker 1: in every position. Of course, want from the compete and

3277
02:48:57,280 --> 02:49:00,600
Speaker 1: go after each other. You know, over the years, playing

3278
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:05,560
Speaker 1: coaching and doing things, I've seen the light go on

3279
02:49:06,080 --> 02:49:09,280
Speaker 1: for different players at different times. I had a kid

3280
02:49:09,400 --> 02:49:13,560
Speaker 1: that coaching I just couldn't get him to understand the

3281
02:49:13,640 --> 02:49:17,160
Speaker 1: plays took him on the sideline, would put him in

3282
02:49:17,360 --> 02:49:20,920
Speaker 1: every other play, and all of a sudden he was

3283
02:49:21,000 --> 02:49:23,640
Speaker 1: an All Star. I just had to figure out how

3284
02:49:23,760 --> 02:49:26,760
Speaker 1: he processed information, you know. And they say there's three

3285
02:49:26,840 --> 02:49:29,480
Speaker 1: different ways that you look at things and learn, and

3286
02:49:29,640 --> 02:49:33,640
Speaker 1: that's part of growing and doing things. And there's guys

3287
02:49:33,680 --> 02:49:37,120
Speaker 1: on the roster. Maybe some of them will step up

3288
02:49:37,160 --> 02:49:39,840
Speaker 1: in the light go on, but by all means bringing

3289
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:44,480
Speaker 1: everybody in the area that anywhere in the United States

3290
02:49:44,560 --> 02:49:47,480
Speaker 1: that can help us. Hey, I'd even go. I'd even

3291
02:49:47,520 --> 02:49:49,959
Speaker 1: go to the CFL. My friend, I've got no problems

3292
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:52,440
Speaker 1: taking a guy from from north of the border. Remember

3293
02:49:52,480 --> 02:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Brett Jones, I believe me. I know I full league tryout,

3294
02:49:57,600 --> 02:49:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, coming out of school back in the seventies

3295
02:49:59,600 --> 02:50:06,200
Speaker 1: or along known played in the CFL. But uh, the

3296
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:09,600
Speaker 1: kid out of moments, no one's mentioned he might be

3297
02:50:09,680 --> 02:50:12,280
Speaker 1: a free agent that they brought in or will bring in.

3298
02:50:12,840 --> 02:50:16,480
Speaker 1: What is it, Reggie White Jr. Showed a lot of potential.

3299
02:50:16,480 --> 02:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see what you guys thought of him.

3300
02:50:18,840 --> 02:50:22,959
Speaker 1: What what position? Wide receiver? Yeah, I did not look

3301
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:25,400
Speaker 1: at him. Um I did not either, So I'd have

3302
02:50:25,480 --> 02:50:26,960
Speaker 1: to look him up for you and we will over

3303
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:29,600
Speaker 1: the course of the rest of the show. UM, appreciate,

3304
02:50:29,840 --> 02:50:32,240
Speaker 1: appreciate the carle thanks a lot. Always good to hear

3305
02:50:32,280 --> 02:50:35,920
Speaker 1: from you. Um, but we have had momoth receivers before. UM.

3306
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:38,280
Speaker 1: Austin the wife was here from Dallas. It's tryna be

3307
02:50:38,320 --> 02:50:40,880
Speaker 1: a really good player. He went to MoMA, let's see here,

3308
02:50:41,320 --> 02:50:44,680
Speaker 1: caught over two hundred passes during his collegiate career, said

3309
02:50:44,720 --> 02:50:50,320
Speaker 1: a momoth record in doing so, uh six three pounds.

3310
02:50:51,680 --> 02:50:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, uh think about this. Victor Cruz came out

3311
02:50:57,320 --> 02:51:00,240
Speaker 1: of nowhere to be a free agent who went to

3312
02:51:00,280 --> 02:51:02,360
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl with the Giants and won a Super

3313
02:51:02,400 --> 02:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Bowl ring out of you Mass also an FCS school

3314
02:51:06,360 --> 02:51:09,959
Speaker 1: at the time. So you know, let's not kid ourselves.

3315
02:51:10,360 --> 02:51:13,520
Speaker 1: You can get uh some gems in the rookie free

3316
02:51:13,600 --> 02:51:17,320
Speaker 1: agent class. After this thing is over, in what is

3317
02:51:17,360 --> 02:51:21,400
Speaker 1: known in NFL circles as the eighth round in quotes, now,

3318
02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to take your right tackle thing off the board,

3319
02:51:23,240 --> 02:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and they know what you're thinking. Ahead. If they get

3320
02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:28,280
Speaker 1: to the end of the fifth round, right, and the

3321
02:51:28,400 --> 02:51:30,600
Speaker 1: best player by far on their board with like a

3322
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:33,400
Speaker 1: whole round higher grade than anybody else left is a

3323
02:51:33,480 --> 02:51:38,560
Speaker 1: running back. Do you make that pick if he's that

3324
02:51:38,680 --> 02:51:40,720
Speaker 1: much higher than others? Let's say he is right he

3325
02:51:40,760 --> 02:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Let's say he is a fourth round grade. Everyone else

3326
02:51:42,879 --> 02:51:45,120
Speaker 1: has a fifth round grade. Can you take the running

3327
02:51:45,120 --> 02:51:47,840
Speaker 1: back you probably do? How would you use him? And

3328
02:51:47,879 --> 02:51:50,400
Speaker 1: where would you plan? Because you have Goldman, who I

3329
02:51:50,480 --> 02:51:53,200
Speaker 1: think should proved to be a pretty good well that

3330
02:51:53,240 --> 02:51:55,160
Speaker 1: that's why I'm asking you the question, what's Kwan the guy?

3331
02:51:55,360 --> 02:51:59,160
Speaker 1: The guy's never gonna play well after that? Your third

3332
02:51:59,240 --> 02:52:03,320
Speaker 1: back is probably Paul Palmer, Paul Perkins, I'm sorry, Paul Perkins,

3333
02:52:03,400 --> 02:52:06,000
Speaker 1: who was coming off of a full year of injury, right,

3334
02:52:06,280 --> 02:52:09,480
Speaker 1: so you don't know what his status is going to

3335
02:52:09,560 --> 02:52:12,359
Speaker 1: be coming off of injury. So Elijah Penny could theoretically

3336
02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:14,920
Speaker 1: be that third battle running back to and also play fullback.

3337
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I have no problem picking up an insurance policy that

3338
02:52:18,160 --> 02:52:21,240
Speaker 1: late to compete to try to win the third string

3339
02:52:21,320 --> 02:52:23,680
Speaker 1: running back job. I have no problem with that. And

3340
02:52:23,720 --> 02:52:25,960
Speaker 1: there's the Rutgers kid from last year too, who's on

3341
02:52:26,040 --> 02:52:28,680
Speaker 1: the practice squad for a while. I mean, oh, Robert Martin,

3342
02:52:29,160 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 1: and they actually liked him. I thought he looked really good.

3343
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:34,600
Speaker 1: But so yeah, why not compete at that point? I don't.

3344
02:52:34,920 --> 02:52:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. By the way,

3345
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:38,959
Speaker 1: I want to go through some more kicks. The guy

3346
02:52:39,040 --> 02:52:41,000
Speaker 1: the Texans take, or you're gonna mention in a minute,

3347
02:52:41,480 --> 02:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Charles omanehu uh terrific defensive and the problem is John

3348
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:49,880
Speaker 1: He's a four three scheme fit. And I would have

3349
02:52:49,959 --> 02:52:52,600
Speaker 1: mentioned him earlier for the Giants because I do like him.

3350
02:52:53,080 --> 02:52:55,360
Speaker 1: I just don't think he fits their scheme. I'm gonna

3351
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:57,440
Speaker 1: go back a Bibbs. I think I missed Matt Gay

3352
02:52:57,520 --> 02:53:00,960
Speaker 1: who went to Tampa. I would have thought the Bucks

3353
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:03,080
Speaker 1: would have learned a lesson about drafting a kicker high,

3354
02:53:05,800 --> 02:53:10,000
Speaker 1: but apparently it didn't take, so they went with another one. Uh. Recently,

3355
02:53:10,280 --> 02:53:12,800
Speaker 1: I think piersch backer was the last guy that I mentioned.

3356
02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Jordan's Scarlett running back from Florida to Carolina, Mack Wilson.

3357
02:53:18,120 --> 02:53:21,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned him linebacker Alabama to Cleveland, Justin Hollins and

3358
02:53:21,640 --> 02:53:24,000
Speaker 1: outside linebacker from Oregon who was a three four guy

3359
02:53:24,040 --> 02:53:26,760
Speaker 1: would have fit the Giants to den Uh to Denver.

3360
02:53:27,480 --> 02:53:30,480
Speaker 1: The Jets play cash when you mentioned him. Michael Jackson,

3361
02:53:30,640 --> 02:53:33,640
Speaker 1: cornerback from Miami goes to the Dallas Cowboys. They traded

3362
02:53:33,680 --> 02:53:35,600
Speaker 1: down to this pick from earlier in the fifth round

3363
02:53:36,480 --> 02:53:40,199
Speaker 1: Byron Cowart, defensive tackle from Maryland, goes to the Patriots.

3364
02:53:40,640 --> 02:53:44,440
Speaker 1: The Ravens like Dalen Mack. Someone we mentioned he had

3365
02:53:44,480 --> 02:53:48,720
Speaker 1: a real good postgame All Star postseason All Star Games circuit.

3366
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Uh defensive tackle from Texas. A and m really big dude,

3367
02:53:52,280 --> 02:53:54,600
Speaker 1: the heart to move him. Charles and Mena Hue you

3368
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:58,560
Speaker 1: mentioned him, defensive end pass rusher from Texas. Cameron Smith

3369
02:53:58,640 --> 02:54:02,400
Speaker 1: linebacker USC goes to Minnesota and then the Eagles take

3370
02:54:02,440 --> 02:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a punter Jake Barely out of Stanford. Second part that

3371
02:54:07,160 --> 02:54:11,200
Speaker 1: has disappeared during the course of the day, so that

3372
02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:15,520
Speaker 1: that's certainly interesting. It e J. Speed, a linebacker from

3373
02:54:15,640 --> 02:54:19,039
Speaker 1: Charlton State. It's a nice name, has been picked by

3374
02:54:19,200 --> 02:54:24,360
Speaker 1: the Colts at number twenty six. I didn't know Tarlton's

3375
02:54:24,400 --> 02:54:30,879
Speaker 1: State was a school, did you know, which also indicates

3376
02:54:30,920 --> 02:54:34,360
Speaker 1: that neither one of us knew the team. No, well,

3377
02:54:34,760 --> 02:54:36,680
Speaker 1: if I don't know they existed, and I certainly didn't

3378
02:54:36,680 --> 02:54:39,760
Speaker 1: know they had a football team. And you know what,

3379
02:54:39,879 --> 02:54:41,800
Speaker 1: I think I might have found our first player because

3380
02:54:41,800 --> 02:54:46,200
Speaker 1: he's a linebacker, right, I think I found my first

3381
02:54:46,280 --> 02:54:49,480
Speaker 1: player that Dame Bruegler did not grade Okay, hold on

3382
02:54:49,600 --> 02:54:51,560
Speaker 1: a second out. Let's see if he does not have

3383
02:54:51,720 --> 02:54:53,959
Speaker 1: him listed here. Let's see if our lad says him.

3384
02:54:55,040 --> 02:55:03,840
Speaker 1: Of course, Dan she Ja speed boy, not to know

3385
02:55:06,040 --> 02:55:08,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Oh, he picked one of the guys you liked,

3386
02:55:08,360 --> 02:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, defensive end in Miami. Again, he's a four

3387
02:55:11,879 --> 02:55:14,800
Speaker 1: three scheme guy, so it really doesn't fit what the

3388
02:55:14,840 --> 02:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Giants want to do, but they need depth at the

3389
02:55:17,200 --> 02:55:20,440
Speaker 1: pass rusher position. They have DeMarcus Lawrence back. They traded

3390
02:55:20,480 --> 02:55:22,680
Speaker 1: for Robert Quinn, but he only is a year left

3391
02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:25,640
Speaker 1: on his deal. So Joe Jackson out of Miami com

3392
02:55:25,680 --> 02:55:28,720
Speaker 1: provide some pass rushing depth for the Cowboys there. John

3393
02:55:28,800 --> 02:55:32,879
Speaker 1: At this point, honestly, I really think that that's good value.

3394
02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:36,280
Speaker 1: You're talking about guy who's played at a big time program.

3395
02:55:36,600 --> 02:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Let him in sacks, comes off nine sacks last season.

3396
02:55:40,280 --> 02:55:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know again, I get it because not

3397
02:55:43,640 --> 02:55:46,840
Speaker 1: a good scheme fit necessarily for the Giants, but I

3398
02:55:47,000 --> 02:55:50,360
Speaker 1: can't argue with the fact that his production warrants a look.

3399
02:55:50,959 --> 02:55:54,320
Speaker 1: And indeed he's now going to get one another guy,

3400
02:55:54,480 --> 02:55:59,600
Speaker 1: by the way, who has legitimate potential going inside the

3401
02:55:59,720 --> 02:56:02,520
Speaker 1: NF the East. It's been a very good week for

3402
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:06,240
Speaker 1: this division, especially pass rush wise. Yeah, they've got some

3403
02:56:06,320 --> 02:56:09,520
Speaker 1: pass rushers in there. Um, boy, the names that are

3404
02:56:09,560 --> 02:56:12,160
Speaker 1: good are There's not many left here, Paul Um. There's

3405
02:56:12,160 --> 02:56:13,720
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers still left. You talk about the

3406
02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:16,080
Speaker 1: meaning deep down the board sto some guys you like

3407
02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:17,880
Speaker 1: your man Isaiah Prince is still there. Are still a

3408
02:56:17,959 --> 02:56:20,920
Speaker 1: few running back left to go, Yeah, said a couple

3409
02:56:20,959 --> 02:56:23,360
Speaker 1: of the tackles, Prince and Edwards. They're both still there.

3410
02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Harmon and rat Liff Williams still there receivers, right, Yeah,

3411
02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:29,320
Speaker 1: And I kind of like those guys. David Sills, he's

3412
02:56:29,320 --> 02:56:31,879
Speaker 1: still there too, a guy that we've talked about, Harmon

3413
02:56:31,959 --> 02:56:34,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned he's still there. You like he saw Johnson

3414
02:56:34,440 --> 02:56:36,520
Speaker 1: too right when you watched him. I think I had

3415
02:56:36,560 --> 02:56:38,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good grade on him. Yeah. There were a

3416
02:56:38,480 --> 02:56:41,160
Speaker 1: couple other guys though too. Um. If you want to

3417
02:56:41,200 --> 02:56:43,280
Speaker 1: go corner again, I don't know that they will, but

3418
02:56:43,360 --> 02:56:46,359
Speaker 1: if you want to stock up on corners, want they heartache.

3419
02:56:47,320 --> 02:56:50,920
Speaker 1: He's he's the quality player. I mean, he's different value.

3420
02:56:51,440 --> 02:56:54,520
Speaker 1: He's he's certainly gonna be good value here. And Tavon

3421
02:56:54,600 --> 02:56:58,040
Speaker 1: Connelly is another linebacker. I thought he went, did he go?

3422
02:56:58,280 --> 02:57:01,959
Speaker 1: I thought Coney went, No, maybe he didn't. I'm reading

3423
02:57:02,000 --> 02:57:05,680
Speaker 1: my scratch rong code. I don't think Cony went. You

3424
02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:07,160
Speaker 1: could be right, let me look it up here. I'm not.

3425
02:57:07,600 --> 02:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I remember writing him down, and I think he's good value.

3426
02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:12,400
Speaker 1: But again, now he would be at this point. I agree,

3427
02:57:12,560 --> 02:57:15,840
Speaker 1: But but how much is your need component going into it?

3428
02:57:15,959 --> 02:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean on the Giants already and they drafted Connelly already,

3429
02:57:18,400 --> 02:57:20,320
Speaker 1: so right, so I don't think that that's gonna happen.

3430
02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:22,720
Speaker 1: You're right, he's still there. I accidentally crossed him out.

3431
02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:25,760
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. He still on the board. And all

3432
02:57:25,840 --> 02:57:28,600
Speaker 1: by the way, another known to Dame guy. You know,

3433
02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:33,039
Speaker 1: they they do understand what, you know, what pro coaching

3434
02:57:33,160 --> 02:57:35,240
Speaker 1: is all about. So and I like David Long the

3435
02:57:35,280 --> 02:57:37,640
Speaker 1: Speeds are linebacker out of West Virginia too, who's still

3436
02:57:37,640 --> 02:57:38,880
Speaker 1: on the board. I think he's a guy that can

3437
02:57:38,920 --> 02:57:41,280
Speaker 1: help out. And if you want a running back, uh,

3438
02:57:41,440 --> 02:57:44,720
Speaker 1: trevia On Williams is still there, Dexter Williams. Uh, the

3439
02:57:44,840 --> 02:57:47,080
Speaker 1: kid out of Washington, right, he still on the board,

3440
02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:49,600
Speaker 1: Miles Gaskin, if you want a running back there, so

3441
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:51,360
Speaker 1: still a lot of players on the board that can

3442
02:57:51,400 --> 02:57:54,280
Speaker 1: play the Chargers now uh, pick his in at one

3443
02:57:54,440 --> 02:57:57,640
Speaker 1: sixties six Again the Giants pick coming up here won

3444
02:57:57,760 --> 02:58:00,400
Speaker 1: seventy one, so worthin five. Let's go the back to

3445
02:58:00,440 --> 02:58:04,760
Speaker 1: the phones. In the meanwhile, another quarterback John Ry. Oh no, no, no,

3446
02:58:04,920 --> 02:58:07,080
Speaker 1: that pick his in and they're showing Ryan Finley from

3447
02:58:07,080 --> 02:58:09,320
Speaker 1: the fourth round. That's my bad, and that's okay. Jump

3448
02:58:09,400 --> 02:58:11,680
Speaker 1: the gun on me there. Well, I saw Finley come

3449
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:13,040
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, wait a minute, we no, no,

3450
02:58:13,320 --> 02:58:15,360
Speaker 1: it is a quarterback. Ryan in New Jersey has been

3451
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:18,320
Speaker 1: holding the longest high Ryan Eastern stick from North Dakota

3452
02:58:18,400 --> 02:58:23,360
Speaker 1: State Eastern stick off the board. Go ahead, take that

3453
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:27,360
Speaker 1: job the draft. You really make it a more knowledgeable

3454
02:58:27,400 --> 02:58:29,520
Speaker 1: process to actually have an idea of what's going on.

3455
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:33,800
Speaker 1: The sign one Draft night Gospel. I appreciate that thing.

3456
02:58:34,160 --> 02:58:36,039
Speaker 1: I hope you're having some fun with us too, because

3457
02:58:36,040 --> 02:58:39,439
Speaker 1: which will trying to make it as as entertaining as possible.

3458
02:58:39,800 --> 02:58:46,360
Speaker 1: We're a little vaudeville in here too, you know. Managed

3459
02:58:46,400 --> 02:58:49,320
Speaker 1: to make it so every GM with the last in

3460
02:58:49,360 --> 02:58:51,800
Speaker 1: this one knows who your guyet and to pick him,

3461
02:58:53,680 --> 02:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know, I gotta

3462
02:58:58,480 --> 02:59:01,000
Speaker 1: give Paul credit life. He's nailed a couple of picks,

3463
02:59:01,080 --> 02:59:02,880
Speaker 1: and over the last few years, I think me and

3464
02:59:02,920 --> 02:59:04,720
Speaker 1: em probably nailed about the same amount of picks. But

3465
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:07,800
Speaker 1: the problem I think Paul gets into a trap where

3466
02:59:07,840 --> 02:59:09,840
Speaker 1: he gets too later round and there's like one guy

3467
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:11,880
Speaker 1: or two guys that he really likes, and he hasn't

3468
02:59:11,920 --> 02:59:13,879
Speaker 1: caught on breaks with those guys, That's for sure. That's

3469
02:59:13,920 --> 02:59:16,760
Speaker 1: where it happened. Was not going to be a giant

3470
02:59:16,840 --> 02:59:20,280
Speaker 1: because that's my guy, I know. But you know what,

3471
02:59:20,640 --> 02:59:24,080
Speaker 1: I had Barkley last year, I had Hernandez last year,

3472
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:26,200
Speaker 1: and I had Carter last year. That was three out

3473
02:59:26,200 --> 02:59:28,800
Speaker 1: of the first four hits me too, you know, so

3474
02:59:29,560 --> 02:59:32,040
Speaker 1: um and quite frankly, if you've listened to the show

3475
02:59:32,120 --> 02:59:35,280
Speaker 1: the last few days, uh, we have talked ballpark of

3476
02:59:35,360 --> 02:59:37,520
Speaker 1: two or three names or four names in each spot

3477
02:59:37,959 --> 02:59:40,680
Speaker 1: and every time pretty much well not with Connolly, Well

3478
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:43,480
Speaker 1: what a names have all come up? We talked about Lawrence,

3479
02:59:43,720 --> 02:59:45,880
Speaker 1: Lawrence were in them, talked about and we picked, and

3480
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:47,800
Speaker 1: we talked about a corner at the at the top

3481
02:59:48,080 --> 02:59:50,600
Speaker 1: second round to talked about love. We mentioned I think

3482
02:59:50,640 --> 02:59:52,800
Speaker 1: we mentioned Baker, and I know we mentioned the X

3483
02:59:52,879 --> 02:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Men a little bit recently. Oh you know, it's just

3484
02:59:55,800 --> 02:59:57,959
Speaker 1: that now now that I'm dying for a tackle, You're right,

3485
02:59:58,040 --> 03:00:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting totally stone. Usually what happens on this show,

3486
03:00:00,680 --> 03:00:02,280
Speaker 1: if you'll listen to Big Blue Kick Off Live for

3487
03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:04,960
Speaker 1: the last ten years, I name great names for the

3488
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:07,440
Speaker 1: giants who should be on the radar, and other teams

3489
03:00:07,560 --> 03:00:10,840
Speaker 1: steal them before they get to the giants. And there's

3490
03:00:10,879 --> 03:00:14,840
Speaker 1: a longer list of those guys, trust me, yes, quite

3491
03:00:14,840 --> 03:00:16,760
Speaker 1: a few. Um. And then the other one is John.

3492
03:00:16,959 --> 03:00:19,680
Speaker 1: I was one of the ones that Captain Shade over

3493
03:00:19,800 --> 03:00:22,039
Speaker 1: on Twitter because they remember you saying that Daniel Jones

3494
03:00:22,080 --> 03:00:24,560
Speaker 1: will not be the premple Box. But I will say,

3495
03:00:24,680 --> 03:00:27,480
Speaker 1: despite the fact you're wrong, you're one of the favorite

3496
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:29,480
Speaker 1: guys that listened to on the show. Usually kind of

3497
03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:31,200
Speaker 1: give a little bit more information than maybe some of

3498
03:00:31,200 --> 03:00:33,320
Speaker 1: the other are a little bit more opinion anyway, not

3499
03:00:33,520 --> 03:00:36,160
Speaker 1: necessarily a canned answer all the time. So I know

3500
03:00:36,360 --> 03:00:37,960
Speaker 1: yesterday he said I'm not gonna make that I won't.

3501
03:00:37,959 --> 03:00:39,760
Speaker 1: I won't make that mistake again. No, it's okay, you

3502
03:00:39,760 --> 03:00:43,200
Speaker 1: can make a mistake. Appreciate you do a good job.

3503
03:00:43,360 --> 03:00:46,160
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thanks bel Hi, Ryan, appreciate the call. Hey,

3504
03:00:46,240 --> 03:00:48,000
Speaker 1: you get something wrong, you get some right, another another

3505
03:00:48,080 --> 03:00:52,800
Speaker 1: QB after el Thorson went, huh Clayton Thorson out of

3506
03:00:52,800 --> 03:00:56,080
Speaker 1: the Northwestern to the Eagles. By the way, I guess Minshew,

3507
03:00:56,280 --> 03:00:58,400
Speaker 1: it's probably the next guy right at quarterback or maybe

3508
03:00:58,440 --> 03:01:01,000
Speaker 1: the ripping what about Tyree Jackson? Tyree Jackson and I

3509
03:01:01,040 --> 03:01:03,760
Speaker 1: think ripping from Boise States. Another guy right the next

3510
03:01:04,160 --> 03:01:07,160
Speaker 1: where's Kyle Sherman going to go? Yeah, that's a good question,

3511
03:01:07,680 --> 03:01:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know Pat's upstairs, probably waiting

3512
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:11,840
Speaker 1: for that phone call himself. Yeah, we gotta hope to

3513
03:01:11,920 --> 03:01:14,879
Speaker 1: keep him out of the NFC East. Please get awkward,

3514
03:01:17,480 --> 03:01:20,160
Speaker 1: avoid that. Hey, Giants air or four picks away. Yeah,

3515
03:01:20,200 --> 03:01:23,160
Speaker 1: the Titans are on the board now at pick one

3516
03:01:23,400 --> 03:01:26,320
Speaker 1: sixty eight. Who they got from the Saints? And again

3517
03:01:26,360 --> 03:01:28,680
Speaker 1: there's been a million traits here. Let's go back to

3518
03:01:28,760 --> 03:01:30,520
Speaker 1: the phone that they had a Bill in Connecticut. He's

3519
03:01:30,560 --> 03:01:35,360
Speaker 1: up next, high Bill. How's it going? Alright? What's up? Bill?

3520
03:01:36,520 --> 03:01:38,680
Speaker 1: I've been a Giant fans since Del Shofter has been

3521
03:01:38,680 --> 03:01:42,320
Speaker 1: on a team. Just to give you a little good background,

3522
03:01:42,360 --> 03:01:45,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A long time I was

3523
03:01:45,320 --> 03:01:49,960
Speaker 1: disappointed that the Giants haven't picked an offensive Lineman. I

3524
03:01:50,080 --> 03:01:51,760
Speaker 1: think they I was I was hoping they were going

3525
03:01:51,800 --> 03:01:53,720
Speaker 1: to get one with their first pick, to be honest

3526
03:01:53,800 --> 03:01:56,640
Speaker 1: with you, And then when the second pick came up,

3527
03:01:56,680 --> 03:02:01,320
Speaker 1: they should have grabbed the guy. Julliard. Uh, Andre Dilliard.

3528
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:08,160
Speaker 1: We liked him a lot. Dillard or or or Taylor,

3529
03:02:08,560 --> 03:02:12,520
Speaker 1: the guy from Florida. You know, I still think the Giants,

3530
03:02:13,440 --> 03:02:15,520
Speaker 1: I think I think they're missing it. You know what

3531
03:02:15,600 --> 03:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean? Because what was the biggest problem last year?

3532
03:02:18,400 --> 03:02:22,200
Speaker 1: Offensive line? Uh? And they still happened to addressed that

3533
03:02:22,280 --> 03:02:24,280
Speaker 1: in the draft. Well, well, they didn't address it in

3534
03:02:24,320 --> 03:02:26,279
Speaker 1: the draft, but they did add an All Pro guard

3535
03:02:26,560 --> 03:02:30,560
Speaker 1: in Kevin Zeisler, so they are already improved. You do

3536
03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:34,880
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be a great addition for the Giants? Oh? Absolutely,

3537
03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:37,280
Speaker 1: He's a really he's one of the top five guards

3538
03:02:37,320 --> 03:02:39,080
Speaker 1: in all the football. He's gonna be a huge help

3539
03:02:39,280 --> 03:02:41,640
Speaker 1: right away. Have you watched the NFL over the last

3540
03:02:41,680 --> 03:02:45,080
Speaker 1: ten years. He's good. He's a good playing stud. The

3541
03:02:45,160 --> 03:02:49,000
Speaker 1: guy is an absolute stud, especially in past protection. And

3542
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:51,119
Speaker 1: by the way you see him walking around the facility,

3543
03:02:51,560 --> 03:02:53,640
Speaker 1: it takes a day to just walk around that dude.

3544
03:02:53,720 --> 03:02:56,959
Speaker 1: He is wide. Yes, he could fill up the wid

3545
03:02:57,000 --> 03:03:00,080
Speaker 1: the Hudson River. Do you agree with me that that

3546
03:03:00,160 --> 03:03:02,320
Speaker 1: the Giant should have should have picked an offensive line

3547
03:03:02,360 --> 03:03:04,760
Speaker 1: within the first state two or three picks. No? No, Here,

3548
03:03:04,800 --> 03:03:06,600
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. And you guys know I

3549
03:03:06,680 --> 03:03:09,440
Speaker 1: advocated they needed to get an offensive lineman by pick

3550
03:03:09,520 --> 03:03:12,200
Speaker 1: thirty seven. They go, They goes DeAndre Walker by the

3551
03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:14,760
Speaker 1: way to the Titans. I'm not running away from that.

3552
03:03:14,920 --> 03:03:16,720
Speaker 1: I wish they had been able to do that. But

3553
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:20,400
Speaker 1: if they get an offensive lineman at any time over

3554
03:03:20,480 --> 03:03:22,600
Speaker 1: the course of the afternoon, who can come in and

3555
03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:25,360
Speaker 1: compete for a starting job. I won't care what round

3556
03:03:25,440 --> 03:03:27,879
Speaker 1: he was taken in. As long as there's somebody who

3557
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:30,720
Speaker 1: can help make the position better, that's all that matters.

3558
03:03:31,360 --> 03:03:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if Edwards has second round grades on him

3559
03:03:34,280 --> 03:03:36,000
Speaker 1: and they get him in the fifth round, why should

3560
03:03:36,040 --> 03:03:42,800
Speaker 1: you care? A good day? They appreciate the call. Hey, Look,

3561
03:03:42,840 --> 03:03:45,120
Speaker 1: and we know that upgrading right tackle was a was

3562
03:03:45,200 --> 03:03:47,120
Speaker 1: a priority this offseason and in the draft. They haven't

3563
03:03:47,120 --> 03:03:50,720
Speaker 1: gotten there yet. There's still time. There's time in the draft,

3564
03:03:50,800 --> 03:03:53,520
Speaker 1: and who knows, there's still a veteran free agent two

3565
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:57,400
Speaker 1: are out there that much time two picks, there's rumin

3566
03:03:57,480 --> 03:03:59,640
Speaker 1: f agency, though there's time and free agency there is

3567
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about William Beatty. Sorry, Charlie. No, there

3568
03:04:02,600 --> 03:04:05,520
Speaker 1: are other veterans. There are other veterans out there that

3569
03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:09,600
Speaker 1: that could help you out to four five one three.

3570
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Dug up in Rochester. I haven't heard from Dougie Fresh

3571
03:04:12,680 --> 03:04:16,040
Speaker 1: in a while. What's up, doug And what's up? What's up?

3572
03:04:19,360 --> 03:04:23,200
Speaker 1: I talked to lansing Um, but I give it. I

3573
03:04:23,400 --> 03:04:26,280
Speaker 1: get the credit back. I was. I was pretty upset,

3574
03:04:26,480 --> 03:04:30,880
Speaker 1: but dude, I said, I thought about it. Danni Jones

3575
03:04:31,879 --> 03:04:36,840
Speaker 1: is what six sided two twe comes. He's an athlete,

3576
03:04:36,879 --> 03:04:39,360
Speaker 1: he could play basketball, and I had to take a

3577
03:04:39,480 --> 03:04:41,800
Speaker 1: look where he was at Duke and we have too

3578
03:04:41,920 --> 03:04:44,640
Speaker 1: much around him. But I looked at the characteril and

3579
03:04:44,720 --> 03:04:48,000
Speaker 1: the ability to keep getting a not a big yard,

3580
03:04:48,040 --> 03:04:50,959
Speaker 1: but got actacy, and I think the kid is gonna

3581
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:54,360
Speaker 1: do well at New York Giant Quarterbacks. The one I'm

3582
03:04:54,680 --> 03:04:59,560
Speaker 1: about get Man took seventeen. He took the Crimson guy.

3583
03:04:59,800 --> 03:05:05,200
Speaker 1: He address rush. The Giants are still well again. Then

3584
03:05:05,280 --> 03:05:11,119
Speaker 1: he again he thinks the biggest problem is the biggest

3585
03:05:11,120 --> 03:05:13,640
Speaker 1: problem now again. I think they believe that Dexter Lawrence

3586
03:05:13,680 --> 03:05:16,000
Speaker 1: can help with the interior pass rush. But you're right,

3587
03:05:16,080 --> 03:05:19,000
Speaker 1: they waited till the third round to add an edge rusher,

3588
03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:21,840
Speaker 1: and they think that Zimonez can help out in that

3589
03:05:21,959 --> 03:05:23,720
Speaker 1: in that area. He's from a smaller school. It's not

3590
03:05:23,720 --> 03:05:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna happen overnight. Generally, edge rushers take a year to

3591
03:05:26,440 --> 03:05:28,520
Speaker 1: develop into good players in the NFL anyway, it just

3592
03:05:28,560 --> 03:05:31,000
Speaker 1: takes some time. It's the nature of the position. So

3593
03:05:31,400 --> 03:05:34,920
Speaker 1: you're right, edge rush, getting pass rush off the edge

3594
03:05:35,360 --> 03:05:38,440
Speaker 1: is still an issue, and if there's one at this point,

3595
03:05:38,480 --> 03:05:40,720
Speaker 1: Paul the biggest it's probably still the biggest question on

3596
03:05:40,720 --> 03:05:43,320
Speaker 1: the roster. Right you would say pass rush from the outside.

3597
03:05:44,040 --> 03:05:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm still concerned about right tackle as we stand here today,

3598
03:05:46,640 --> 03:05:48,959
Speaker 1: because at least they did draft acts in the third round.

3599
03:05:49,040 --> 03:05:51,920
Speaker 1: But let me say this as a generic statement, do

3600
03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:56,080
Speaker 1: you feel better about the giants complete ability across the

3601
03:05:56,160 --> 03:05:59,160
Speaker 1: offensive line or do you feel better about the Giants

3602
03:05:59,320 --> 03:06:02,760
Speaker 1: complete A bill need to get after the quarterback. They

3603
03:06:03,160 --> 03:06:06,560
Speaker 1: need more pack exactly. That's what I'm saying. You bad

3604
03:06:06,959 --> 03:06:09,080
Speaker 1: no weshing the quarterback. But I don't care how many

3605
03:06:09,640 --> 03:06:13,720
Speaker 1: US safety big guys. If you don't have pressure on

3606
03:06:13,760 --> 03:06:16,080
Speaker 1: the quarner back. I don't care how many quarterbacks and

3607
03:06:16,120 --> 03:06:19,680
Speaker 1: take things. You got carter back then no pocket. He

3608
03:06:19,840 --> 03:06:22,920
Speaker 1: got good his receivers. Man, this is what you got

3609
03:06:23,040 --> 03:06:25,000
Speaker 1: in the backfield. All right. But here's the problem. We

3610
03:06:25,360 --> 03:06:28,160
Speaker 1: knew that if he did not go after one of

3611
03:06:28,240 --> 03:06:32,720
Speaker 1: the sweat was still at seventeen, I think Ryan bros

3612
03:06:32,879 --> 03:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Was still there. No, no, no, no, no, Burns was gone.

3613
03:06:35,959 --> 03:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Burns was gone, Doug, Doug. If Brian Burns was there,

3614
03:06:39,920 --> 03:06:42,240
Speaker 1: you would have seen me running around and like pounding

3615
03:06:42,280 --> 03:06:44,240
Speaker 1: the table wanting to them pick Brian Burns. He got

3616
03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:49,360
Speaker 1: picked the pick before the Giants selected Dexter Lawrence unfortunately. Okay, yeah,

3617
03:06:49,720 --> 03:06:54,120
Speaker 1: manta sweat. I know Paul Paul does not like the medico,

3618
03:06:54,520 --> 03:06:57,440
Speaker 1: but I think you guys tell me that it was

3619
03:06:58,000 --> 03:07:01,720
Speaker 1: he was clear, and I mean because it's well, I look,

3620
03:07:01,879 --> 03:07:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Giants medical staff evaluate him

3621
03:07:04,640 --> 03:07:07,520
Speaker 1: and and appreciate the call. Doug, good stuff as always. Um,

3622
03:07:08,440 --> 03:07:10,600
Speaker 1: remember when we have Tony Pauline, Yes, and he made

3623
03:07:10,640 --> 03:07:14,640
Speaker 1: the point teams can clear a player in terms of

3624
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:19,280
Speaker 1: their health that they can play, but it doesn't mean

3625
03:07:19,920 --> 03:07:22,880
Speaker 1: that it's not flagged, and maybe it pushes them down

3626
03:07:22,959 --> 03:07:26,000
Speaker 1: the board. So that's the different size of the medical thing.

3627
03:07:26,080 --> 03:07:28,720
Speaker 1: And I'm about to If you see Paula Tino's face,

3628
03:07:28,840 --> 03:07:31,880
Speaker 1: he looks heartbroken, he looks unhappy. He looks like somebody

3629
03:07:31,920 --> 03:07:34,720
Speaker 1: that just had hiss pasta stolen from from at dinner time.

3630
03:07:35,560 --> 03:07:39,680
Speaker 1: Because the Los Angeles Rams just selected David Edwards, offensive

3631
03:07:39,720 --> 03:07:44,680
Speaker 1: tackle out of Wisconsin. I say, a prince is still there.

3632
03:07:44,840 --> 03:07:46,280
Speaker 1: You know you just you know, you said to the

3633
03:07:46,320 --> 03:07:47,800
Speaker 1: other caller, do you know what happens when I want

3634
03:07:47,840 --> 03:07:50,520
Speaker 1: a guy? They get taken right before the Giants go up,

3635
03:07:51,280 --> 03:07:54,360
Speaker 1: talk about two or three picks away. NFL teams know, okay,

3636
03:07:54,440 --> 03:07:57,800
Speaker 1: they know, they know. Check out b B k oh.

3637
03:07:58,400 --> 03:08:00,480
Speaker 1: You don't even have to scout players, just check out

3638
03:08:00,600 --> 03:08:03,280
Speaker 1: b B k O. I'll throw a name out there

3639
03:08:03,640 --> 03:08:06,320
Speaker 1: and they'll scap him up. It just has happened so

3640
03:08:06,400 --> 03:08:09,160
Speaker 1: many times in the last ten years. See Charlie, this

3641
03:08:09,280 --> 03:08:11,600
Speaker 1: is what happens. I asked you if you wanted me

3642
03:08:11,680 --> 03:08:14,040
Speaker 1: to put some names out there for you, and now

3643
03:08:14,200 --> 03:08:18,760
Speaker 1: they're being taken. Now he wasn't taken before the last pick, though,

3644
03:08:18,959 --> 03:08:21,640
Speaker 1: I know the Browns pick his in the Giants are

3645
03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:25,520
Speaker 1: officially on the clock that pick one seventy one, and

3646
03:08:25,600 --> 03:08:28,320
Speaker 1: then the Giants pick in the sixth round, and then

3647
03:08:28,360 --> 03:08:30,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna say goodbye so so too in the next

3648
03:08:30,680 --> 03:08:32,640
Speaker 1: ten too, in the next ten. All right, come on,

3649
03:08:32,840 --> 03:08:34,760
Speaker 1: let's see what we got. All right, give me your

3650
03:08:34,840 --> 03:08:38,440
Speaker 1: name again. I'm taking his a Prince. That's it. I'm

3651
03:08:38,480 --> 03:08:40,520
Speaker 1: going Need all the way here. I'm all in on

3652
03:08:40,680 --> 03:08:43,120
Speaker 1: Need at this point. That is not the way that

3653
03:08:43,840 --> 03:08:46,440
Speaker 1: I know. It's not the way they go, folks. I'm

3654
03:08:46,560 --> 03:08:49,959
Speaker 1: fully admitting this. This is about personal preference for Need.

3655
03:08:50,280 --> 03:08:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting off the best player on the board. I

3656
03:08:52,360 --> 03:08:54,880
Speaker 1: know that's what they're going to do. I'm not doing that.

3657
03:08:55,800 --> 03:08:58,760
Speaker 1: That's it. Just not Justin Hollins has gone most of

3658
03:08:58,800 --> 03:09:00,840
Speaker 1: the guys that I had. I don't think they'll go

3659
03:09:00,920 --> 03:09:04,480
Speaker 1: inside linebacker again with Tavon Coney or David Long. It's

3660
03:09:04,560 --> 03:09:07,640
Speaker 1: value receiver. I'm looking at the receivers that that that's

3661
03:09:07,640 --> 03:09:11,840
Speaker 1: where I'm going. There's value there. If the kicker to

3662
03:09:11,959 --> 03:09:14,160
Speaker 1: the brown, I was gonna say, I don't think, Um,

3663
03:09:14,400 --> 03:09:16,880
Speaker 1: Austin Cybert, I don't really think that they should set

3664
03:09:16,920 --> 03:09:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he says it. I don't. I

3665
03:09:18,560 --> 03:09:20,480
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't think they should necessarily pick

3666
03:09:20,520 --> 03:09:22,920
Speaker 1: a kicker here. I think they're pretty happy with rosas

3667
03:09:24,680 --> 03:09:27,440
Speaker 1: giants and giants are on the clock, folks, So wide receiver,

3668
03:09:28,760 --> 03:09:33,840
Speaker 1: I got a second hold on. I'm here's what I'm

3669
03:09:33,840 --> 03:09:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna go with. I'm gonna go with killing DAWs out

3670
03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:39,680
Speaker 1: if you see Davis, If it's a receiver, I would

3671
03:09:39,680 --> 03:09:44,360
Speaker 1: go killing Harmon. If it's a receiver, I would I

3672
03:09:44,360 --> 03:09:46,440
Speaker 1: would be fine with that. I think Harmon is a

3673
03:09:46,440 --> 03:09:47,960
Speaker 1: good pick. I think DAWs is a good pick. I

3674
03:09:48,000 --> 03:09:49,960
Speaker 1: think David Sills would be an okay pick here too,

3675
03:09:50,120 --> 03:09:52,120
Speaker 1: out of West Virginia. Or if they want speed, you

3676
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:54,600
Speaker 1: have Emmanuel Hall. He's a guy that can run real quick.

3677
03:09:54,640 --> 03:09:58,000
Speaker 1: As production wasn't great. He played Withdrew Lock at Missouri.

3678
03:09:58,720 --> 03:10:00,480
Speaker 1: So those are the receivers that I like. But I

3679
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:02,840
Speaker 1: want to go Keelan Dass. Why not? I think he's

3680
03:10:02,840 --> 03:10:06,320
Speaker 1: a good player. He's a small school guy, unbelievable production,

3681
03:10:06,360 --> 03:10:08,840
Speaker 1: more than four thousand receiving yards and his and his

3682
03:10:08,920 --> 03:10:11,360
Speaker 1: he careered, you see Davis. What the heck? I'm gonna

3683
03:10:11,360 --> 03:10:15,080
Speaker 1: go Keilan Dass to me? Kelvin Harmon was projected as

3684
03:10:15,080 --> 03:10:17,600
Speaker 1: a second or third round pick. Sums up and whenever

3685
03:10:17,680 --> 03:10:20,800
Speaker 1: guy drops like this, you know something's up, So I'll

3686
03:10:20,879 --> 03:10:22,959
Speaker 1: lay off there. But he might be the most He's

3687
03:10:22,959 --> 03:10:26,520
Speaker 1: probably the most talented guy. Darius Slayton out of Auburn.

3688
03:10:27,200 --> 03:10:28,879
Speaker 1: He was on my list. I didn't think they would

3689
03:10:28,879 --> 03:10:35,120
Speaker 1: go Darius Slayton, do go receiver. He was actually the

3690
03:10:35,320 --> 03:10:37,440
Speaker 1: one to three, third or fourth theme on my list

3691
03:10:37,520 --> 03:10:42,160
Speaker 1: here for wide receivers. Um, I did late work on him. Um,

3692
03:10:42,240 --> 03:10:43,800
Speaker 1: he's somebody that know a lot of people do have

3693
03:10:43,920 --> 03:10:47,000
Speaker 1: in their top twenty in in terms of wide receiver prospects.

3694
03:10:47,440 --> 03:10:51,920
Speaker 1: He's a good player. Again, he's somebody that um played

3695
03:10:51,959 --> 03:10:53,920
Speaker 1: at Auburn, so he played with your guys. Stick him.

3696
03:10:53,959 --> 03:10:55,400
Speaker 1: I know you watched a lot of tape of him.

3697
03:10:56,000 --> 03:10:59,920
Speaker 1: Only thirty five catches for six hundred seventy yards as

3698
03:11:00,040 --> 03:11:03,480
Speaker 1: a senior, so his production is not there. Overall. At

3699
03:11:03,480 --> 03:11:06,400
Speaker 1: the combine he ran a four three nine, so he's

3700
03:11:06,400 --> 03:11:11,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of speed. This is Dame Brugler's evaluation. Overall,

3701
03:11:11,160 --> 03:11:13,880
Speaker 1: Slatin has inconsistencies, but he is much more than simply

3702
03:11:13,920 --> 03:11:17,160
Speaker 1: a speed demon, showcasing fluid athleticism and linked to make

3703
03:11:17,240 --> 03:11:21,760
Speaker 1: catches outside its framework, projecting as a high upside developmental receiver.

3704
03:11:22,320 --> 03:11:25,800
Speaker 1: He has him his fifteenth ranked wide receiver on the board,

3705
03:11:26,320 --> 03:11:30,640
Speaker 1: and he has him as a uh, let's see, he

3706
03:11:30,680 --> 03:11:33,920
Speaker 1: has him as a third or fourth round value. Well,

3707
03:11:34,040 --> 03:11:37,320
Speaker 1: first thing is when when you see the four three nine,

3708
03:11:37,760 --> 03:11:43,760
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, Okay, outside of Corey Coleman, who

3709
03:11:43,920 --> 03:11:48,560
Speaker 1: really do the Giants have that can burn So I

3710
03:11:48,600 --> 03:11:50,640
Speaker 1: mean quote quote Latymer run a little bit, but I

3711
03:11:50,680 --> 03:11:53,080
Speaker 1: see your point. Nobody's running a fourth three. No one's

3712
03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:56,680
Speaker 1: running a fourth three. So outside of Corey Coleman. So

3713
03:11:57,080 --> 03:11:59,640
Speaker 1: quite honestly, and Corey Coleman is a question mark. We

3714
03:11:59,680 --> 03:12:02,039
Speaker 1: don't know for sure. He's gonna make the team. Terrific

3715
03:12:02,160 --> 03:12:04,840
Speaker 1: job last year on kickoff returns, but we don't know

3716
03:12:05,040 --> 03:12:06,760
Speaker 1: that he's going to make the team as a wide

3717
03:12:06,800 --> 03:12:08,800
Speaker 1: receiver this year. You'd like to think so that's why

3718
03:12:08,840 --> 03:12:12,520
Speaker 1: they resigned him. But now you've got another burner to

3719
03:12:12,640 --> 03:12:14,520
Speaker 1: bring the camp and see what he does. And not

3720
03:12:14,560 --> 03:12:16,320
Speaker 1: a small guy either. He six ft one, so he

3721
03:12:16,520 --> 03:12:19,040
Speaker 1: so he's got some size to him a little bit.

3722
03:12:19,640 --> 03:12:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny. I did slate and late and

3723
03:12:21,640 --> 03:12:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I wrote down notes. He was literally

3724
03:12:24,560 --> 03:12:26,520
Speaker 1: the last wide receiver I was gonna watch, and I

3725
03:12:26,560 --> 03:12:28,280
Speaker 1: think I pulled into a meeting I have the chance

3726
03:12:28,320 --> 03:12:30,240
Speaker 1: to watch him. But guys, look, he's a speecher. You

3727
03:12:30,280 --> 03:12:32,080
Speaker 1: can get that ball down the field to him. He's fast,

3728
03:12:32,400 --> 03:12:34,080
Speaker 1: but he's got some good skills. So I think he's

3729
03:12:34,080 --> 03:12:36,880
Speaker 1: a high upside pick here. I like it add to

3730
03:12:36,959 --> 03:12:39,760
Speaker 1: that wide receiver depth. He's that deep threat you don't

3731
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:41,960
Speaker 1: think of Stirling Shepherd and Tata's guys that are like

3732
03:12:42,040 --> 03:12:44,720
Speaker 1: super duper deep threats. This guy can be your deep

3733
03:12:44,760 --> 03:12:46,520
Speaker 1: threat and he could play right away if he used

3734
03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:48,400
Speaker 1: him as a guy that you want to use him

3735
03:12:48,520 --> 03:12:50,680
Speaker 1: down the field and a limited amount of routes. He's

3736
03:12:50,720 --> 03:12:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot to learn the whole rot tree. Now,

3737
03:12:52,320 --> 03:12:54,440
Speaker 1: he's a little bit raw, but he's a guy that

3738
03:12:54,480 --> 03:12:56,560
Speaker 1: can help you down the field right away. That would

3739
03:12:56,560 --> 03:12:59,760
Speaker 1: be the second offensive player that the Giants have taken

3740
03:12:59,800 --> 03:13:03,480
Speaker 1: into draft, and first since Daniel Jones in the first round.

3741
03:13:04,520 --> 03:13:07,760
Speaker 1: They really went heavy on defense, which you had to expect,

3742
03:13:08,200 --> 03:13:11,000
Speaker 1: knowing how they performed on defense last year and how

3743
03:13:11,120 --> 03:13:14,480
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman himself admitted that that was a problem. All right,

3744
03:13:14,520 --> 03:13:16,959
Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones at two O four

3745
03:13:17,120 --> 03:13:21,320
Speaker 1: five one three. Sally is up in Maine. Hello, Sally, Hey,

3746
03:13:21,400 --> 03:13:24,920
Speaker 1: you think the Giants might hire McAdoo was head chef Audios.

3747
03:13:25,200 --> 03:13:27,119
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sally. I'm glad you waited in a hole

3748
03:13:27,160 --> 03:13:30,119
Speaker 1: to make that point two four or five one three.

3749
03:13:30,120 --> 03:13:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you can clock anyway. Let's go to

3750
03:13:31,959 --> 03:13:35,760
Speaker 1: Peter from Florida. Peter, what's up? Hey, guys, a long

3751
03:13:35,840 --> 03:13:38,800
Speaker 1: time listener, first time calling? Oh yeah, thank you. You

3752
03:13:38,879 --> 03:13:41,680
Speaker 1: guys have done an awesome, awesome job on the draft

3753
03:13:41,720 --> 03:13:45,600
Speaker 1: analysis and this marathon you guys are running pretty awesome.

3754
03:13:45,800 --> 03:13:48,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you. It's hard work. Appreciate it.

3755
03:13:48,959 --> 03:13:51,960
Speaker 1: There's a suggestion box out there, because I'd love to

3756
03:13:52,640 --> 03:13:54,960
Speaker 1: listen to you guys nine o'clock at night one day

3757
03:13:55,080 --> 03:13:58,160
Speaker 1: and then ten o'clock the next morning. I prefer a

3758
03:13:58,200 --> 03:14:03,440
Speaker 1: twenty four hour Patino Schmoke show. Clearly you want to

3759
03:14:03,480 --> 03:14:07,800
Speaker 1: get me divorced and I that could be a problem

3760
03:14:07,920 --> 03:14:11,440
Speaker 1: for me. But okay, you know, I'm sure Serious is

3761
03:14:11,480 --> 03:14:13,280
Speaker 1: looking to fill up one of their channels. Why not?

3762
03:14:13,560 --> 03:14:20,520
Speaker 1: Right right, it's a check, baby, guys. I'm pretty happy

3763
03:14:20,560 --> 03:14:23,600
Speaker 1: with the draft so far. Obviously, everybody is shocked about this.

3764
03:14:23,680 --> 03:14:27,160
Speaker 1: Old Daniel Jones kicked in the first I know there's

3765
03:14:27,959 --> 03:14:31,040
Speaker 1: a small percentage of Giants fans that are actually excited

3766
03:14:31,040 --> 03:14:33,200
Speaker 1: about the pick, but you know, you know, you guys

3767
03:14:33,240 --> 03:14:34,959
Speaker 1: are gonna be fielding these calls in the next couple

3768
03:14:34,959 --> 03:14:40,000
Speaker 1: of years, not just I please feel sorry for us, Okay, please,

3769
03:14:40,959 --> 03:14:46,560
Speaker 1: it's I guess my My big question is this. You know,

3770
03:14:46,680 --> 03:14:50,480
Speaker 1: Dave Government says in his news conference that you can't

3771
03:14:50,520 --> 03:14:53,360
Speaker 1: go into a draft with a gluttering need. Well, we

3772
03:14:53,440 --> 03:14:56,720
Speaker 1: all know that right tackle is a huge gluttering need.

3773
03:14:57,200 --> 03:15:01,000
Speaker 1: And Chad Willer was rank in the least as a starter.

3774
03:15:02,120 --> 03:15:05,920
Speaker 1: He has no competition to get better. He has no

3775
03:15:06,080 --> 03:15:09,680
Speaker 1: competition in this draft, even if they draft the print

3776
03:15:10,200 --> 03:15:13,080
Speaker 1: or or someone to push it. You know. And at

3777
03:15:13,120 --> 03:15:15,879
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I actually believe that Flowers

3778
03:15:16,000 --> 03:15:19,519
Speaker 1: had potential, but because he was never pushed, he never succeeded.

3779
03:15:20,120 --> 03:15:23,360
Speaker 1: And I know that might be a not a common

3780
03:15:23,480 --> 03:15:25,680
Speaker 1: thought based on Giants hands, but at the end of

3781
03:15:25,680 --> 03:15:29,160
Speaker 1: the day, we need we need push for Wheeler, we

3782
03:15:29,240 --> 03:15:31,680
Speaker 1: need push for someone. Well, well, let me say this

3783
03:15:32,440 --> 03:15:36,240
Speaker 1: very very very quickly, Peter, before you go on. If

3784
03:15:36,320 --> 03:15:39,840
Speaker 1: they do not bring in significant competition for Chadwheeler between

3785
03:15:39,920 --> 03:15:41,680
Speaker 1: now in the start of training camp. I will be

3786
03:15:41,879 --> 03:15:47,480
Speaker 1: extremely surprised, would I look for the last couple of months.

3787
03:15:47,520 --> 03:15:52,240
Speaker 1: I know, I know the one guy who was here,

3788
03:15:52,600 --> 03:15:55,240
Speaker 1: and I'm not speaking out of turn. Everybody knows that

3789
03:15:55,360 --> 03:16:00,200
Speaker 1: Mike Remers came to visit the Giants had my ner

3790
03:16:00,480 --> 03:16:02,680
Speaker 1: BAC surgery at the end of last season, by the

3791
03:16:02,720 --> 03:16:04,600
Speaker 1: way his agent put it on Twitter. So it's not

3792
03:16:05,160 --> 03:16:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up anything. That's that's under the table here.

3793
03:16:08,640 --> 03:16:11,039
Speaker 1: He had minor back surgery at the end of the season,

3794
03:16:11,600 --> 03:16:15,520
Speaker 1: rehabbing his back, visited with the Giants, has a connection

3795
03:16:15,640 --> 03:16:19,640
Speaker 1: to Shula and Gettleman from Carolina, a connection to Sherber

3796
03:16:19,720 --> 03:16:23,920
Speaker 1: through Minnesota. Okay, after his visit, he went back and

3797
03:16:24,080 --> 03:16:27,560
Speaker 1: is continuing to rehab his back and has not visited

3798
03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:30,800
Speaker 1: anyone else. And that's where it stands right now. So

3799
03:16:31,640 --> 03:16:34,240
Speaker 1: until he signed somewhere else, I suppose you could say

3800
03:16:34,280 --> 03:16:37,880
Speaker 1: he's still in play. Now are you talking to Mike

3801
03:16:39,520 --> 03:16:43,680
Speaker 1: Mike Remmers and seeing that's a scary that's a scary situation.

3802
03:16:43,840 --> 03:16:46,640
Speaker 1: We're hoping that a guy that came in that didn't

3803
03:16:46,680 --> 03:16:49,600
Speaker 1: even sign is going to make it to create competition

3804
03:16:49,720 --> 03:16:53,800
Speaker 1: for potentially the worst starting tackle in the league. Well, again,

3805
03:16:53,879 --> 03:16:55,560
Speaker 1: I want to say to you, I want to say

3806
03:16:55,600 --> 03:17:00,240
Speaker 1: to you, I don't know how serious their interest is,

3807
03:17:00,440 --> 03:17:03,160
Speaker 1: other than he visited here and he hasn't signed anywhere.

3808
03:17:03,200 --> 03:17:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying the facts are, he's still in play.

3809
03:17:06,520 --> 03:17:09,040
Speaker 1: I I think it would be wrong to assume and

3810
03:17:09,120 --> 03:17:12,080
Speaker 1: to make a statement that the Giants are counting on him.

3811
03:17:12,400 --> 03:17:14,960
Speaker 1: That that, to me is an assumption that I'm not

3812
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:17,440
Speaker 1: willing to make. But what I will say to you

3813
03:17:17,640 --> 03:17:20,880
Speaker 1: is this, at the moment, John's right, they've got to

3814
03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:23,560
Speaker 1: have to bring in something at right tackle, either to

3815
03:17:23,640 --> 03:17:26,320
Speaker 1: compete for that starting job or to beat the number three.

3816
03:17:26,720 --> 03:17:29,040
Speaker 1: And it doesn't look like they have that now. So

3817
03:17:29,240 --> 03:17:33,480
Speaker 1: it's got to come from somewhere. Agreed, Agreed, Agreed. I

3818
03:17:33,600 --> 03:17:35,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to share one quick thing for you. I

3819
03:17:35,480 --> 03:17:37,920
Speaker 1: live in the Florida Keys yea, and I drove. I

3820
03:17:38,080 --> 03:17:41,080
Speaker 1: drove two hours to go to a draft party actually

3821
03:17:41,160 --> 03:17:45,640
Speaker 1: at hard Rock Stadium where the Dolphins play, and everybody,

3822
03:17:46,360 --> 03:17:49,840
Speaker 1: everybody was charing for Haskins, and when they did not

3823
03:17:50,200 --> 03:17:54,320
Speaker 1: select Haskins, they went nuts. The whole day was probably

3824
03:17:54,360 --> 03:17:56,320
Speaker 1: two thousand people and there's about six of us wearing

3825
03:17:56,400 --> 03:18:00,840
Speaker 1: Giants Jersey Land. You mean the Dolphins. The Dolphins fans

3826
03:18:00,920 --> 03:18:05,360
Speaker 1: wanted Haskins. Yes, the entire place. When nuts and when

3827
03:18:05,400 --> 03:18:07,440
Speaker 1: I was walking out, I had about six or seven

3828
03:18:07,800 --> 03:18:10,240
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans come up to me saying, hey, at least

3829
03:18:10,240 --> 03:18:14,200
Speaker 1: we had to pick Daniel Jones, and I was like, oh, hey,

3830
03:18:14,280 --> 03:18:16,520
Speaker 1: the bottom line, everyone's gonna know in a few years

3831
03:18:16,520 --> 03:18:17,959
Speaker 1: who was right and who was wrong. We just gotta

3832
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:20,520
Speaker 1: wait and see. And I get it. And to be honest,

3833
03:18:20,600 --> 03:18:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm super happy about the corners. I think we have

3834
03:18:23,440 --> 03:18:26,560
Speaker 1: two potential starters, or at least they can challenge for

3835
03:18:26,600 --> 03:18:30,880
Speaker 1: our starting positions. Both of them actually play outside. I

3836
03:18:30,959 --> 03:18:33,440
Speaker 1: know one of them. Yes, yes, yeah, both can. You

3837
03:18:33,600 --> 03:18:37,040
Speaker 1: both can play outside. Love can also play inside. Baker

3838
03:18:37,160 --> 03:18:38,920
Speaker 1: is more of an outside cornerback. I don't see him

3839
03:18:38,920 --> 03:18:40,680
Speaker 1: as a slot at could do some of it, but

3840
03:18:40,959 --> 03:18:42,880
Speaker 1: right now you'd have to say Love is better suited.

3841
03:18:42,959 --> 03:18:45,480
Speaker 1: And that's me much so. And you got Haley too,

3842
03:18:45,680 --> 03:18:48,279
Speaker 1: don't forget that. Great Haley had a good, good December

3843
03:18:48,360 --> 03:18:52,040
Speaker 1: last year as a slot guy. Appreciate the call. Thank

3844
03:18:52,040 --> 03:18:53,680
Speaker 1: you very much, good stuff, Peter, Thank you for being

3845
03:18:53,720 --> 03:18:55,320
Speaker 1: a fan of us. Down the Florida Keys, if we

3846
03:18:55,400 --> 03:18:56,960
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Florida Keys or it's nice there,

3847
03:18:58,160 --> 03:19:00,959
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you ever been? Probably when I was a kid,

3848
03:19:01,000 --> 03:19:03,000
Speaker 1: but I don't remember too, so I forgot that you

3849
03:19:03,080 --> 03:19:05,480
Speaker 1: know nothing nothing? Well, I mean, look do they have

3850
03:19:05,560 --> 03:19:08,440
Speaker 1: they have alligators there? Right? I remember you had that

3851
03:19:08,480 --> 03:19:12,000
Speaker 1: incident when you're walking around Jacksonville. Yes, and there were

3852
03:19:12,080 --> 03:19:14,280
Speaker 1: critters in the in the swamp. The Florida Keys are

3853
03:19:14,320 --> 03:19:17,640
Speaker 1: are are not Jacksonville's. You know, it's a little bit different.

3854
03:19:17,720 --> 03:19:21,640
Speaker 1: This is true. Two O one five one three. Mike

3855
03:19:21,720 --> 03:19:24,680
Speaker 1: and Idaho. This might be our first ever Idaho call.

3856
03:19:24,760 --> 03:19:28,560
Speaker 1: What's up? Mike? Hey guys. Uh love what you guys do.

3857
03:19:28,720 --> 03:19:32,720
Speaker 1: First time caller. You a long time Jersey guy. I

3858
03:19:32,760 --> 03:19:36,880
Speaker 1: have live out here in Idaho now. Um, but watching

3859
03:19:36,920 --> 03:19:39,760
Speaker 1: the draft, I like when they've done so far. I

3860
03:19:39,840 --> 03:19:43,920
Speaker 1: just want to get you guys opinion. They drafted the

3861
03:19:44,120 --> 03:19:48,520
Speaker 1: x Men and Connolly. Do you think, uh, the eventsive

3862
03:19:48,560 --> 03:19:52,240
Speaker 1: coordinator James Petcher is gonna change the scheme a little

3863
03:19:52,280 --> 03:19:54,680
Speaker 1: bit to have these guys a little more pressure on

3864
03:19:54,760 --> 03:19:57,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback this year from the Linemack composition. Yeah, we

3865
03:19:57,920 --> 03:20:00,640
Speaker 1: talked about it last night and stacking these cornerbacks, and

3866
03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:03,120
Speaker 1: then getting these corners in here will give you a

3867
03:20:03,200 --> 03:20:06,160
Speaker 1: lot more freedom to pressure the quarterback. So I do

3868
03:20:06,360 --> 03:20:09,199
Speaker 1: think that opens up the cabinet a little bit wider

3869
03:20:09,280 --> 03:20:11,560
Speaker 1: than it was last year when you can't trust your

3870
03:20:11,560 --> 03:20:13,240
Speaker 1: guys to cover one on one, so you're gonna have

3871
03:20:13,280 --> 03:20:14,760
Speaker 1: to be a little bit careful in terms of how

3872
03:20:14,879 --> 03:20:17,840
Speaker 1: you scheme your defense and how much pressure you bring

3873
03:20:17,959 --> 03:20:21,480
Speaker 1: that put your corners out on islands. So yes, I

3874
03:20:21,560 --> 03:20:22,959
Speaker 1: do believe this will give him a little bit more

3875
03:20:23,000 --> 03:20:25,280
Speaker 1: freedom because right now the Giants don't have that edge

3876
03:20:25,320 --> 03:20:26,960
Speaker 1: rusher that you know you can count on to win

3877
03:20:27,080 --> 03:20:28,760
Speaker 1: one on one all the time when you're only rush

3878
03:20:28,800 --> 03:20:31,160
Speaker 1: in three or four guys or even five for that matter.

3879
03:20:31,280 --> 03:20:33,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, you hope you can cover outside and then

3880
03:20:33,440 --> 03:20:35,360
Speaker 1: you can generate some pass rush with some blitz is

3881
03:20:37,440 --> 03:20:41,720
Speaker 1: did these guys compliment Lorenzo Carner a little bit? Well,

3882
03:20:41,800 --> 03:20:44,000
Speaker 1: that's what you hope. I mean, Lorenzo Carter is a

3883
03:20:44,080 --> 03:20:47,360
Speaker 1: developing edge rusher who you're going to expect a lot

3884
03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:49,640
Speaker 1: more from in your two The question is I would

3885
03:20:49,680 --> 03:20:51,640
Speaker 1: be So I would be very surprised if Lorenzo Carter

3886
03:20:51,720 --> 03:20:55,640
Speaker 1: is not starting this year. And I think the exactly.

3887
03:20:55,920 --> 03:20:57,680
Speaker 1: He can do a little bit everything. On first and

3888
03:20:57,720 --> 03:20:59,520
Speaker 1: second down and third down he'll rush the passer with

3889
03:20:59,600 --> 03:21:03,320
Speaker 1: his hand, Dirk, So, who's the other guy? Is it

3890
03:21:03,400 --> 03:21:07,560
Speaker 1: Cream Martin? Is it Marcus Golden? Is it Oshane Zimmenez.

3891
03:21:07,920 --> 03:21:10,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the competition for that other outside linebackers.

3892
03:21:10,400 --> 03:21:12,120
Speaker 1: I'll say, you know, it's kind of weird too. Just

3893
03:21:12,240 --> 03:21:14,480
Speaker 1: as I'm looking at the board and I didn't realize

3894
03:21:14,520 --> 03:21:16,880
Speaker 1: this Why It Ray is still out there, three or

3895
03:21:16,879 --> 03:21:19,039
Speaker 1: four edge rusher out of Boston College and this guy

3896
03:21:19,200 --> 03:21:21,520
Speaker 1: was a solid third round grade. How was he not

3897
03:21:21,640 --> 03:21:24,200
Speaker 1: taking yet? I did not do work on him. Yeah,

3898
03:21:25,040 --> 03:21:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean downe for for the Eagles. Well, he's he's

3899
03:21:30,480 --> 03:21:34,120
Speaker 1: he's he's six three, two fifty. I had him being

3900
03:21:34,200 --> 03:21:37,840
Speaker 1: a projection three or four outside backer with good technique,

3901
03:21:37,920 --> 03:21:41,600
Speaker 1: length of motor, good burst pursuit, needs to needs to

3902
03:21:41,680 --> 03:21:46,039
Speaker 1: increase his power. Burglar has him as a priority free agent. Really, yes,

3903
03:21:46,920 --> 03:21:48,360
Speaker 1: I did not watch him, so I do not have

3904
03:21:48,400 --> 03:21:51,120
Speaker 1: an opinion. I'm surprised. I know. When we talked to

3905
03:21:51,160 --> 03:21:54,680
Speaker 1: the Boston College radio fellow on one of our preview shows,

3906
03:21:55,480 --> 03:21:58,440
Speaker 1: really liked Why It write a lot. Speaking of edge rushers.

3907
03:21:58,480 --> 03:22:02,400
Speaker 1: By the way, coach Marvin's gay Sutton Smith from Northern Illinois,

3908
03:22:02,840 --> 03:22:05,720
Speaker 1: who's like a two twenty pound pass rusher. You gotta

3909
03:22:05,720 --> 03:22:07,920
Speaker 1: figure out what he's gonna play in the NFL. He

3910
03:22:08,040 --> 03:22:13,039
Speaker 1: went to Pittsburgh, I believe, yes, at selection one seventy five.

3911
03:22:13,160 --> 03:22:15,480
Speaker 1: So we are five picks away from the Giants at

3912
03:22:16,240 --> 03:22:18,560
Speaker 1: By the way, he played defensive end in Northern Illinois.

3913
03:22:19,360 --> 03:22:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and how much anyway there? Yeah to five?

3914
03:22:22,600 --> 03:22:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it was What are you waiting at? That

3915
03:22:26,000 --> 03:22:28,920
Speaker 1: sounds about right. I mean, I don't know as to say.

3916
03:22:28,959 --> 03:22:30,840
Speaker 1: You gotta find a position for him. He certainly talented,

3917
03:22:30,879 --> 03:22:32,360
Speaker 1: but you gotta find that way you can play him.

3918
03:22:32,560 --> 03:22:35,720
Speaker 1: Two one, four, five, one three. Guys, we've still got

3919
03:22:35,800 --> 03:22:37,360
Speaker 1: a full bank of calls. Man. I can't tell you

3920
03:22:37,480 --> 03:22:39,400
Speaker 1: how grateful we are for you guys sticking with us

3921
03:22:39,400 --> 03:22:41,680
Speaker 1: for the last couple of days. Just tremendous work. David

3922
03:22:41,720 --> 03:22:47,080
Speaker 1: in Michigan, David four picks till the giants are up? Hey, Hi,

3923
03:22:48,080 --> 03:22:50,920
Speaker 1: I go back with you to one. I hear your brother,

3924
03:22:51,000 --> 03:22:53,840
Speaker 1: how you been, And I know you've been frustrated, and

3925
03:22:53,959 --> 03:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I let you blow off steam on Twitter and I

3926
03:22:56,320 --> 03:22:58,760
Speaker 1: don't answer you many times because I know you so

3927
03:22:58,920 --> 03:23:01,040
Speaker 1: well and you're to mind. Is this someone that went

3928
03:23:01,080 --> 03:23:03,840
Speaker 1: to college with you? I wish it with the David.

3929
03:23:03,879 --> 03:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. When we have more time it is

3930
03:23:05,480 --> 03:23:07,720
Speaker 1: not draft day, I will if you call it bb

3931
03:23:07,800 --> 03:23:09,200
Speaker 1: came on a weekday, I will go. Let you go

3932
03:23:09,320 --> 03:23:12,640
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes just telling the Tino college stories. I will.

3933
03:23:12,760 --> 03:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I will give you a whole show. Paul was and

3934
03:23:16,640 --> 03:23:20,880
Speaker 1: is one of the nicest, nicest, nicest guys I have

3935
03:23:21,120 --> 03:23:24,200
Speaker 1: ever known. And I still remember him bringing me back

3936
03:23:24,280 --> 03:23:29,640
Speaker 1: an autograph of Ali Haji Sheik from from from camp

3937
03:23:29,760 --> 03:23:32,560
Speaker 1: one day when when we were both students. So well,

3938
03:23:32,600 --> 03:23:34,640
Speaker 1: it's very caddy in the same man, it's a long time.

3939
03:23:34,680 --> 03:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Now I want to run something by you. How so

3940
03:23:38,280 --> 03:23:40,720
Speaker 1: you know how upset I am with I know you are.

3941
03:23:40,920 --> 03:23:44,760
Speaker 1: I know you are. Now now hang on, how how

3942
03:23:44,920 --> 03:23:49,840
Speaker 1: high would we be carrying geentleman on our shoulders if

3943
03:23:49,920 --> 03:23:53,640
Speaker 1: he had just done this? Okay, because I like the

3944
03:23:53,760 --> 03:23:56,520
Speaker 1: rest of the draft books pretty good. But if he

3945
03:23:56,760 --> 03:24:01,320
Speaker 1: had taken Josh Allen, hey can the guy at cleanses him?

3946
03:24:02,000 --> 03:24:03,840
Speaker 1: Where where he took him? So now we got an

3947
03:24:03,959 --> 03:24:08,160
Speaker 1: edge rusher and you know, and a stunt run stopper,

3948
03:24:08,879 --> 03:24:12,240
Speaker 1: and then he makes the trade to move down to

3949
03:24:12,440 --> 03:24:17,280
Speaker 1: thirty if and then he takes Jones. But Jones isn't

3950
03:24:17,320 --> 03:24:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna be there at thirty. Dude, No, he's not. Dude,

3951
03:24:21,200 --> 03:24:25,160
Speaker 1: Da da. Jenny Venturous, who's a very good reporter, tweeted

3952
03:24:25,200 --> 03:24:27,879
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. He would not have been there at seventeen.

3953
03:24:28,280 --> 03:24:30,959
Speaker 1: Rumors the Redskins liked him more than Haskins at fifteen.

3954
03:24:31,160 --> 03:24:33,360
Speaker 1: The Broncos could have wanted him at ten. And there

3955
03:24:33,400 --> 03:24:37,560
Speaker 1: are other teams that were very high in him, and

3956
03:24:37,800 --> 03:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that's fine. How many how many m v p s

3957
03:24:40,800 --> 03:24:44,720
Speaker 1: from the senior ball are we going to draft here?

3958
03:24:44,840 --> 03:24:48,000
Speaker 1: You know? And and by the way, how much of

3959
03:24:48,080 --> 03:24:53,520
Speaker 1: a waste and absolute waste does well Leta looked like now?

3960
03:24:53,920 --> 03:24:57,000
Speaker 1: Because when we drafted him third or fourth round, you

3961
03:24:57,040 --> 03:25:00,600
Speaker 1: don't want to waste to pick at third or fourth round. Well,

3962
03:25:00,959 --> 03:25:03,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, Dave, Dave, to be honest, I would

3963
03:25:03,600 --> 03:25:06,800
Speaker 1: only say this if you had drafted him to potentially

3964
03:25:06,879 --> 03:25:09,320
Speaker 1: be a starter, as the writers in New York wanted

3965
03:25:09,360 --> 03:25:12,240
Speaker 1: you to believe, then it's a wasted pick. When he

3966
03:25:12,400 --> 03:25:14,800
Speaker 1: was drafted, the intention was he's going to compete as

3967
03:25:14,800 --> 03:25:17,879
Speaker 1: a backup. They did not draft him with the intentions

3968
03:25:17,959 --> 03:25:20,440
Speaker 1: of potentially making him Eli Manning success and if he

3969
03:25:20,520 --> 03:25:22,840
Speaker 1: eventually develops into a grade, but that that that was

3970
03:25:22,879 --> 03:25:27,320
Speaker 1: not the expectation. First of all, I have a big

3971
03:25:27,400 --> 03:25:31,280
Speaker 1: problem with burning a fourth round tick to develop a backup.

3972
03:25:32,000 --> 03:25:35,240
Speaker 1: You can always find a back up, you know, as

3973
03:25:35,280 --> 03:25:39,240
Speaker 1: a free agent. I mean, I just burning and pick

3974
03:25:39,360 --> 03:25:42,200
Speaker 1: that high a guy on a sketchy guy like that.

3975
03:25:42,360 --> 03:25:47,520
Speaker 1: But Dad, remember, I would be so much happy, David.

3976
03:25:47,560 --> 03:25:49,400
Speaker 1: There are teams out there. There are teams out there

3977
03:25:49,440 --> 03:25:53,160
Speaker 1: that take a quarterback every year and probably three out

3978
03:25:53,240 --> 03:25:55,640
Speaker 1: of four flame out. But they think it's worth it

3979
03:25:55,800 --> 03:25:58,200
Speaker 1: to stop pile at the position to see if one

3980
03:25:58,200 --> 03:26:01,400
Speaker 1: of these guys can develop. And you know, you find

3981
03:26:01,440 --> 03:26:05,800
Speaker 1: the Tony Romo, you find the Tom Brady. By the way, David,

3982
03:26:05,879 --> 03:26:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not joking when I say this. That

3983
03:26:07,959 --> 03:26:12,720
Speaker 1: was a core of Bill Walsh's philosophy. Yeah, and and

3984
03:26:12,879 --> 03:26:15,240
Speaker 1: and and that comes from Bill Walsh because of the

3985
03:26:15,280 --> 03:26:17,640
Speaker 1: guys who came out of the tree. Bill Walsh said,

3986
03:26:17,680 --> 03:26:21,240
Speaker 1: you always take a mid to late round. In midst

3987
03:26:21,400 --> 03:26:23,600
Speaker 1: fourth round. Fourth round is where it starts, the middle

3988
03:26:23,640 --> 03:26:26,720
Speaker 1: of the draft. You take one every single year. That

3989
03:26:26,840 --> 03:26:31,240
Speaker 1: was a Bill Walsh's philosophy. Well, I don't know what

3990
03:26:31,360 --> 03:26:34,320
Speaker 1: any of that guy, but here's what my my tent

3991
03:26:34,400 --> 03:26:37,480
Speaker 1: it is. If you're going to rebuild a team, you

3992
03:26:37,680 --> 03:26:42,160
Speaker 1: do it from the inside out and not taking you know,

3993
03:26:42,320 --> 03:26:45,720
Speaker 1: you can listen, we could get another couple of years

3994
03:26:45,959 --> 03:26:50,800
Speaker 1: easy out of out of Eli and you know, and

3995
03:26:50,959 --> 03:26:55,400
Speaker 1: wait to see as the market develops. But we need

3996
03:26:55,480 --> 03:27:00,360
Speaker 1: another offensive stud we need we need to or read

3997
03:27:00,560 --> 03:27:05,160
Speaker 1: defensive lineman and then we can actually start to talk about,

3998
03:27:05,520 --> 03:27:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, improving out of this misery that were in.

3999
03:27:08,800 --> 03:27:12,400
Speaker 1: But I'm with you know, I don't always agree with Francessa,

4000
03:27:12,440 --> 03:27:15,000
Speaker 1: but I agree with Francessa. There's no plan in that

4001
03:27:15,160 --> 03:27:21,720
Speaker 1: first round. There's no logical, credible plan. David. David hold on,

4002
03:27:21,879 --> 03:27:26,000
Speaker 1: David hold on a second, hold on, But he's not no.

4003
03:27:26,160 --> 03:27:30,040
Speaker 1: But David, he's not their fifty ninth raded guy. He

4004
03:27:30,280 --> 03:27:34,600
Speaker 1: was their sixth rated guy. That's the different, gentlemen. What

4005
03:27:34,760 --> 03:27:39,720
Speaker 1: happened to, gentleman is philosophy. You've taken best. He was

4006
03:27:39,959 --> 03:27:44,279
Speaker 1: the giants best player. That's the difference, David. Other people

4007
03:27:44,400 --> 03:27:48,000
Speaker 1: didn't think. So someone's gonna be right. Someone's going to

4008
03:27:48,080 --> 03:27:50,800
Speaker 1: be wrong. They had him ranked with the same grade

4009
03:27:50,840 --> 03:27:54,640
Speaker 1: as Josh Allen. David, honestly, you could disagree with the

4010
03:27:54,760 --> 03:27:57,000
Speaker 1: grade they had on it, and thank you. I don't

4011
03:27:57,000 --> 03:28:00,280
Speaker 1: think you could disagree with the philosophy of hey, he's

4012
03:28:00,280 --> 03:28:03,920
Speaker 1: the best guy. You gotta take the best guy. You know,

4013
03:28:04,040 --> 03:28:06,840
Speaker 1: you could disagree with the grade, But the philosophy of

4014
03:28:07,240 --> 03:28:09,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna take the best guy, I think you would

4015
03:28:09,879 --> 03:28:11,600
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Hey. Look, and I don't think

4016
03:28:11,600 --> 03:28:14,600
Speaker 1: that's why David's upset, because he he thinks there was

4017
03:28:14,680 --> 03:28:17,080
Speaker 1: another guy who was the best guy and they didn't

4018
03:28:17,080 --> 03:28:19,320
Speaker 1: take him right and and we'll find out if that's

4019
03:28:19,320 --> 03:28:21,760
Speaker 1: the case. Are not down the road. But thanks David,

4020
03:28:21,840 --> 03:28:26,640
Speaker 1: be well Man relaxed than um and he made some

4021
03:28:26,680 --> 03:28:28,960
Speaker 1: really good point going to Minshoe, by the way, quarterback

4022
03:28:29,040 --> 03:28:33,279
Speaker 1: Washington State to the Jaguars after Rutger's safety, say Kwan Hampton,

4023
03:28:33,520 --> 03:28:36,960
Speaker 1: not say Kwan Barkley. S Kwan Hampton goes to the Saints.

4024
03:28:37,280 --> 03:28:39,480
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are up, and the Giants are next, and

4025
03:28:39,560 --> 03:28:41,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals pick his in and the Giants are on

4026
03:28:41,640 --> 03:28:45,440
Speaker 1: the clock very quickly. Again, when you say there's no

4027
03:28:45,600 --> 03:28:48,560
Speaker 1: plan real quickly is a second Cardinals pick has been announceding,

4028
03:28:48,560 --> 03:28:49,920
Speaker 1: give me one second, I want, I want to respond

4029
03:28:49,959 --> 03:28:54,400
Speaker 1: to David, give me two seconds. I know you do

4030
03:28:55,200 --> 03:28:58,080
Speaker 1: a kid on Christmas morning. Um, just to a point

4031
03:28:58,120 --> 03:29:01,280
Speaker 1: where again, this whole no plan thing, guys, and I

4032
03:29:01,360 --> 03:29:03,480
Speaker 1: know Paul's this, We've we've argued about this on the

4033
03:29:03,520 --> 03:29:05,160
Speaker 1: air million times and he might not agree with me,

4034
03:29:05,240 --> 03:29:08,280
Speaker 1: but this is what I believe. There's no more important

4035
03:29:08,400 --> 03:29:12,320
Speaker 1: thing than that, what Dave Gentleman is going to do

4036
03:29:12,440 --> 03:29:14,080
Speaker 1: over the course of his career as a Giant is

4037
03:29:14,200 --> 03:29:18,519
Speaker 1: finding the successor to Eli Manning. There's nothing more important

4038
03:29:18,600 --> 03:29:22,240
Speaker 1: than that you do everything you can to find that successor.

4039
03:29:22,800 --> 03:29:26,520
Speaker 1: They believe they found that successor. You might disagree. We're

4040
03:29:26,560 --> 03:29:30,400
Speaker 1: going to find out, but to minimize the importance of

4041
03:29:30,520 --> 03:29:35,720
Speaker 1: finding next franchise guy is foolish. It is essential to

4042
03:29:35,840 --> 03:29:39,600
Speaker 1: not wind up in quarterback hell. The Giants think they've

4043
03:29:39,640 --> 03:29:42,920
Speaker 1: avoided doing that by drafting Daniel Jones. The people out

4044
03:29:42,920 --> 03:29:45,080
Speaker 1: there that evaluate them a different way do not think. So.

4045
03:29:45,879 --> 03:29:48,720
Speaker 1: We'll find out who's right and who's wrong. And that's

4046
03:29:48,720 --> 03:29:50,600
Speaker 1: what you have, all right. They make your case for

4047
03:29:50,640 --> 03:29:52,000
Speaker 1: princes one more time. For the people that have been

4048
03:29:52,040 --> 03:29:54,920
Speaker 1: listening for the last three hours. Well, Isaiah Prince is

4049
03:29:55,240 --> 03:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I believe a better pass blocking tackle than he is

4050
03:29:58,400 --> 03:30:02,199
Speaker 1: a run blocking tackle. And quite honestly, at this point

4051
03:30:02,240 --> 03:30:04,920
Speaker 1: of the board, John, they drafted a speech to a

4052
03:30:05,040 --> 03:30:08,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Right, they added some depth at inside linebacker.

4053
03:30:09,680 --> 03:30:12,280
Speaker 1: If I mean, if you're gonna go need, where else

4054
03:30:12,320 --> 03:30:15,600
Speaker 1: are you going to go? I'm out of other positions, right,

4055
03:30:15,720 --> 03:30:18,720
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, You're not, you know,

4056
03:30:19,120 --> 03:30:21,400
Speaker 1: unless you feel like there's a really good running back left,

4057
03:30:21,400 --> 03:30:23,240
Speaker 1: which you might, or do you want to go for

4058
03:30:23,320 --> 03:30:26,880
Speaker 1: another corner I'm giving you. I'm giving you Monterrey Hartage

4059
03:30:27,480 --> 03:30:30,920
Speaker 1: as as another corner who I think has make it great.

4060
03:30:31,000 --> 03:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Do you double up on wide receiver? You know, well

4061
03:30:35,560 --> 03:30:37,880
Speaker 1: I've given I'm about tight end. Isaac not is still

4062
03:30:37,879 --> 03:30:40,080
Speaker 1: there out of Georgia. He's a good player. Caleb Wilson.

4063
03:30:40,520 --> 03:30:43,480
Speaker 1: I've made it clear, folks, the last three rounds, I'm

4064
03:30:43,560 --> 03:30:46,280
Speaker 1: telling you who I want. I'm not trying to predict

4065
03:30:46,440 --> 03:30:48,720
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I'm not telling you what they're

4066
03:30:48,760 --> 03:30:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm telling you who I want. I want

4067
03:30:51,800 --> 03:30:55,480
Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince. Charlie wants Isaiah Prince. By the way, that

4068
03:30:55,560 --> 03:30:57,840
Speaker 1: you and Charlie are on the same page. Probably is

4069
03:30:57,879 --> 03:31:02,279
Speaker 1: not your best argument. It's okay in this case. Charlie

4070
03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:08,680
Speaker 1: is right anyway. The strong words, I know, but they

4071
03:31:08,879 --> 03:31:11,920
Speaker 1: need help at that's Paul. I'm gonna jo, I'm gonna

4072
03:31:12,040 --> 03:31:15,480
Speaker 1: jump on the bag in bandwagon with you. Get another

4073
03:31:15,560 --> 03:31:19,600
Speaker 1: developmental tackle on here. I'm on board with that. I'm

4074
03:31:19,600 --> 03:31:21,480
Speaker 1: on board with Prince. I'm fine with that, all right,

4075
03:31:21,920 --> 03:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I would be okay at this point. He's a monster.

4076
03:31:27,000 --> 03:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I do think a little more developmental. I'm not, yes,

4077
03:31:29,560 --> 03:31:33,039
Speaker 1: I agree with that. By the way, that old Udo

4078
03:31:33,280 --> 03:31:37,560
Speaker 1: he's you know, Brugler has those guys like right next

4079
03:31:37,560 --> 03:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to each other, by the way, and the value is

4080
03:31:40,480 --> 03:31:42,480
Speaker 1: very close. I don't think it's a much question about

4081
03:31:42,480 --> 03:31:45,760
Speaker 1: the value. It's it's down in this vicinity. Um. I

4082
03:31:45,840 --> 03:31:48,240
Speaker 1: think Prince probably a little higher and a little more ready.

4083
03:31:48,360 --> 03:31:52,039
Speaker 1: Here's a guy, Lamont Gailliard to sent Georgia to the car.

4084
03:31:52,240 --> 03:31:54,119
Speaker 1: We actually talked about him and we had our Georgia guest.

4085
03:31:54,280 --> 03:31:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a name out there and

4086
03:31:56,400 --> 03:31:58,080
Speaker 1: a guy that knows something I know will be doubling

4087
03:31:58,160 --> 03:32:00,040
Speaker 1: up on the inside linebacker spot, which I know you

4088
03:32:00,040 --> 03:32:02,480
Speaker 1: would not be happy about. But where's the player that

4089
03:32:02,560 --> 03:32:05,879
Speaker 1: I've heard some people like as a late day sleeper. Um,

4090
03:32:06,520 --> 03:32:10,360
Speaker 1: I gotta find him here. He's at a University of Texas,

4091
03:32:10,440 --> 03:32:15,960
Speaker 1: San Antonio, and I can't find his name. Shoot, he

4092
03:32:16,080 --> 03:32:17,760
Speaker 1: was gonna be one of my late round sleepers for

4093
03:32:17,840 --> 03:32:19,920
Speaker 1: the Giants at a U T s A. And I

4094
03:32:20,040 --> 03:32:23,680
Speaker 1: can't find this debure, bless you, and the pick is in,

4095
03:32:23,959 --> 03:32:26,040
Speaker 1: so it's not gonna matter. In another couple of seconds,

4096
03:32:26,200 --> 03:32:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get get my name here. Hurry up,

4097
03:32:28,520 --> 03:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Harry up, very trying. Uh Jonah something Josiah, Yeah, it

4098
03:32:34,240 --> 03:32:38,200
Speaker 1: might have been Josiah. Jonah started with his first name,

4099
03:32:38,280 --> 03:32:40,000
Speaker 1: started with a J. And I forget who he was.

4100
03:32:40,120 --> 03:32:41,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? Right? No, exactly who

4101
03:32:41,920 --> 03:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about? Quick, Jonah, I'm forgetting. I didn't do

4102
03:32:47,760 --> 03:32:49,360
Speaker 1: any work up on him, but I had heard, I

4103
03:32:49,480 --> 03:32:51,720
Speaker 1: had heard a stuff about him. Yeah, I don't. He's

4104
03:32:51,720 --> 03:32:55,280
Speaker 1: not even on the took another corner list. Oh, Corey Ballentine,

4105
03:32:55,320 --> 03:32:58,560
Speaker 1: he's against it. I mentioned before out of Washburn. Uh.

4106
03:32:58,640 --> 03:33:01,960
Speaker 1: He's a small guy. He's a small school guy. He

4107
03:33:02,120 --> 03:33:04,400
Speaker 1: has good numbers in terms of running. I'll give you

4108
03:33:04,480 --> 03:33:07,360
Speaker 1: some of his combined numbers right here. I'm gonna call

4109
03:33:07,520 --> 03:33:10,400
Speaker 1: up the Sarah Teller NFL Draft Bible, because he's really

4110
03:33:10,440 --> 03:33:12,560
Speaker 1: good with those guys. He is. And I'll give you

4111
03:33:12,640 --> 03:33:14,520
Speaker 1: what Dame Brugler has on him at a Washburn has

4112
03:33:14,600 --> 03:33:16,959
Speaker 1: him as a fourth or fifth round guy five ten

4113
03:33:17,040 --> 03:33:19,800
Speaker 1: one six, right a four four seven at the combine,

4114
03:33:20,240 --> 03:33:23,240
Speaker 1: another cornerback. I'll give you some more details on him

4115
03:33:23,280 --> 03:33:25,120
Speaker 1: as we as we look ahead here he's inning that

4116
03:33:25,160 --> 03:33:27,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned you earlier about about a corner that the

4117
03:33:27,440 --> 03:33:30,480
Speaker 1: Giants might consider at some point late in the draft

4118
03:33:31,680 --> 03:33:34,240
Speaker 1: when you take an extra quarter. No, you can't have enough,

4119
03:33:34,320 --> 03:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. No star recruit, five year senior again,

4120
03:33:38,560 --> 03:33:40,560
Speaker 1: four or four seven at the combine five ten one

4121
03:33:41,080 --> 03:33:45,640
Speaker 1: six um. Overall, this is his overall evaluation. Valentine needs

4122
03:33:45,680 --> 03:33:47,879
Speaker 1: to tidy up on the technical aspects of the position,

4123
03:33:48,160 --> 03:33:50,600
Speaker 1: but he has the athleticis him to survive on an island,

4124
03:33:50,840 --> 03:33:53,520
Speaker 1: and the coachable makeup that will set him apart door

4125
03:33:53,600 --> 03:33:58,000
Speaker 1: in camp, projecting best in the swat Okay. Coachable nature

4126
03:33:58,080 --> 03:34:01,320
Speaker 1: that's something that they like here, no doubt, uh Balantine,

4127
03:34:01,400 --> 03:34:03,280
Speaker 1: did you read his forty times full four seven? I

4128
03:34:03,280 --> 03:34:06,120
Speaker 1: did four four seven, Yeah, very nice. According to Rick

4129
03:34:06,160 --> 03:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Severtela of UH of NFL Draft Bible, a man amongst

4130
03:34:10,160 --> 03:34:13,920
Speaker 1: boys at the D two level, winning the Cliff Harris Award.

4131
03:34:14,040 --> 03:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Is the best small school defensive player in the country

4132
03:34:17,360 --> 03:34:20,920
Speaker 1: with length, speed, proven ball skills and physical nature. Uh.

4133
03:34:21,000 --> 03:34:23,520
Speaker 1: They're talking about the fact that he will be drafted,

4134
03:34:24,800 --> 03:34:28,240
Speaker 1: saying they like his uh his above average size, broad shoulders,

4135
03:34:28,400 --> 03:34:32,400
Speaker 1: athletic frame, well built arms. Likes a lot about him,

4136
03:34:32,400 --> 03:34:37,040
Speaker 1: says good vision, um quality special teams as well, uh

4137
03:34:37,120 --> 03:34:40,560
Speaker 1: in terms of covering on specials. And then it just

4138
03:34:40,600 --> 03:34:43,480
Speaker 1: says he had victimized at times by savvy route runners

4139
03:34:43,560 --> 03:34:46,920
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Needs to show greater anticipation of routes,

4140
03:34:47,440 --> 03:34:51,160
Speaker 1: stiff and transition, running faster for the stop watch than

4141
03:34:51,240 --> 03:34:54,520
Speaker 1: he plays. But a better athlete than the receivers he

4142
03:34:54,680 --> 03:34:58,000
Speaker 1: was asked to cover, which made him rely often upon

4143
03:34:58,400 --> 03:35:01,640
Speaker 1: his athleticism. He is a four year player and he's

4144
03:35:01,680 --> 03:35:04,160
Speaker 1: a sprinter from their track team at Washburn too, so

4145
03:35:04,320 --> 03:35:06,920
Speaker 1: he has speed. By the way, she Telly grades him

4146
03:35:06,920 --> 03:35:09,360
Speaker 1: as a fourth round job Brewer had four five on him.

4147
03:35:09,400 --> 03:35:12,080
Speaker 1: So let let me see if if Shanka had him

4148
03:35:12,080 --> 03:35:14,840
Speaker 1: in our lands as well, and again you're stacking corners here, folks.

4149
03:35:14,840 --> 03:35:17,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna carry six. Now you've got three draft picks

4150
03:35:17,879 --> 03:35:21,360
Speaker 1: along with Beale, who's a virtual draft pick, rookie Grant

4151
03:35:21,440 --> 03:35:23,840
Speaker 1: Helly who was an undrafted for agent last year, and

4152
03:35:23,959 --> 03:35:27,119
Speaker 1: Genors Jenkins. So you have nice little stack of players

4153
03:35:27,160 --> 03:35:28,680
Speaker 1: there at the cornerback position to give you a lot

4154
03:35:28,720 --> 03:35:30,440
Speaker 1: of depth at a spot where you certainly need it,

4155
03:35:31,080 --> 03:35:34,440
Speaker 1: especially if you're not gonna have a consistent outside pass rush.

4156
03:35:34,480 --> 03:35:37,400
Speaker 1: You want to stack cornerbacks. I'm all for that. Go

4157
03:35:37,600 --> 03:35:41,800
Speaker 1: for it. Corey Balantine six slash seventh round. According to

4158
03:35:41,879 --> 03:35:45,640
Speaker 1: our lads um that that is, they're great on him,

4159
03:35:45,680 --> 03:35:48,600
Speaker 1: but but a draftable player at least uh so, a

4160
03:35:48,640 --> 03:35:50,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a different spin on it. But of course,

4161
03:35:50,959 --> 03:35:55,280
Speaker 1: as we had discussed now for many days after the

4162
03:35:55,400 --> 03:35:58,560
Speaker 1: first top corners, and even then, there was going to

4163
03:35:58,640 --> 03:36:01,240
Speaker 1: be a lot of disagreement as to how you ranked them.

4164
03:36:01,560 --> 03:36:03,560
Speaker 1: I think you know what, when Gettleman said about the

4165
03:36:03,560 --> 03:36:05,880
Speaker 1: secondary be one of the deepest three positions in the draft,

4166
03:36:06,240 --> 03:36:08,840
Speaker 1: we all knew when he said it he met rounds

4167
03:36:09,000 --> 03:36:12,640
Speaker 1: one through seven tremendous depth. And you know that once

4168
03:36:12,680 --> 03:36:15,119
Speaker 1: you get to the third day. Those grades are gonna

4169
03:36:15,120 --> 03:36:17,200
Speaker 1: be razor thin and throw them into a pot and

4170
03:36:17,240 --> 03:36:20,640
Speaker 1: pull them out in whatever or do you want. So Hey,

4171
03:36:20,959 --> 03:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm still disappointed they don't have more competition at offensive tackle.

4172
03:36:24,160 --> 03:36:26,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to believe they're going to get some. But

4173
03:36:26,520 --> 03:36:31,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with drafting another speedy cornerback. You can

4174
03:36:31,240 --> 03:36:33,879
Speaker 1: never have enough. All right, guys, let's see I got

4175
03:36:34,080 --> 03:36:36,400
Speaker 1: We're done. Four calls on the line. Let's get to him.

4176
03:36:36,520 --> 03:36:38,720
Speaker 1: Let's do it, Joe, don't screen anymore. We're gonna do

4177
03:36:38,760 --> 03:36:40,280
Speaker 1: these four and then we're gonna wrap it up. They've

4178
03:36:40,280 --> 03:36:43,080
Speaker 1: been holding. I want to get to him. Jerome and Charlotte, Jerome,

4179
03:36:43,120 --> 03:36:51,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, thank you, thank you. My biggest question is

4180
03:36:56,640 --> 03:37:00,480
Speaker 1: what they resigned him. If he played is a Pro

4181
03:37:00,640 --> 03:37:03,760
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber season and the team shows progress in the

4182
03:37:03,879 --> 03:37:06,880
Speaker 1: wind column, I think there's a chance he starts as

4183
03:37:06,920 --> 03:37:18,880
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. Why wouldn't he uh another two years

4184
03:37:19,160 --> 03:37:23,040
Speaker 1: or John Mara has said it's a year by year basis,

4185
03:37:23,080 --> 03:37:24,640
Speaker 1: so I would be surprised. I mean, you can give

4186
03:37:24,680 --> 03:37:26,760
Speaker 1: him a two year deal and the second year the

4187
03:37:26,840 --> 03:37:28,720
Speaker 1: deal doesn't have any guaranteed money in it, so it's

4188
03:37:28,720 --> 03:37:31,120
Speaker 1: a virtual one year deal. You could do something like that,

4189
03:37:31,560 --> 03:37:33,200
Speaker 1: but no, I don't think they would sign him to

4190
03:37:33,280 --> 03:37:35,480
Speaker 1: a two year with two years of guaranteed money or

4191
03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:37,840
Speaker 1: something like that. When you use a sixth overall pick

4192
03:37:37,879 --> 03:37:44,360
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones, that would surprise me. Thank you, Yeah,

4193
03:37:44,400 --> 03:37:58,119
Speaker 1: go ahead. How many of the still chances of uh

4194
03:37:59,120 --> 03:38:03,960
Speaker 1: a tackle? And who it's getting very very thin? Thank

4195
03:38:04,000 --> 03:38:08,000
Speaker 1: you so much. App Uh. You know, we've mentioned Prince,

4196
03:38:08,080 --> 03:38:11,199
Speaker 1: We've mentioned you know, uh, there are still some developmental

4197
03:38:11,280 --> 03:38:13,240
Speaker 1: guys down there. I think Prince might be the last

4198
03:38:13,320 --> 03:38:15,560
Speaker 1: of this guys who can compete as a starter. Right away.

4199
03:38:15,840 --> 03:38:19,280
Speaker 1: I was surprised, Gentleman said how he thought offensive tackle was.

4200
03:38:19,360 --> 03:38:21,200
Speaker 1: We just haven't seen them in the offensive tackles go

4201
03:38:21,280 --> 03:38:23,000
Speaker 1: off the board and rounds four or five and c.

4202
03:38:23,240 --> 03:38:25,680
Speaker 1: And again, I'm gonna throw the asterisk out there. I

4203
03:38:25,760 --> 03:38:27,600
Speaker 1: said it earlier in the show, probably two or three

4204
03:38:27,640 --> 03:38:30,880
Speaker 1: hours ago. Dave Gettleman is one of these guys who

4205
03:38:30,959 --> 03:38:33,320
Speaker 1: has a very sharp eye for diamonds in the rough

4206
03:38:33,480 --> 03:38:37,480
Speaker 1: and has often gone into the trenches and found guys

4207
03:38:37,879 --> 03:38:41,520
Speaker 1: so deep underneath the surface. I mean, it's I mean

4208
03:38:41,760 --> 03:38:44,360
Speaker 1: believable how he does that. He found norwell, right, yes

4209
03:38:44,400 --> 03:38:47,040
Speaker 1: he did, and he's an All Pro undrafted free agent.

4210
03:38:47,120 --> 03:38:51,800
Speaker 1: So so never ever, ever discount the fact that just

4211
03:38:51,920 --> 03:38:53,960
Speaker 1: because he didn't draft the guy, the guy could be

4212
03:38:54,000 --> 03:38:56,400
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent and he might even wind

4213
03:38:56,480 --> 03:38:59,600
Speaker 1: up starting Opening Day. That's the kind of I Gettleman

4214
03:38:59,680 --> 03:39:02,840
Speaker 1: has for those guys who were dug deep under the surface.

4215
03:39:02,920 --> 03:39:06,520
Speaker 1: Triviaan Williams to the Bengals, just another notable name. Phil

4216
03:39:06,560 --> 03:39:10,280
Speaker 1: in North Carolina's up next Ticete. I feel, hey, guys,

4217
03:39:10,320 --> 03:39:12,560
Speaker 1: since been wall, since I talked to you, Uh, you know,

4218
03:39:12,640 --> 03:39:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't expect the wind or arguing with Russ and

4219
03:39:15,200 --> 03:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Paul about never drafting and running back and tight end

4220
03:39:18,600 --> 03:39:20,880
Speaker 1: in the first round, and that we should have should

4221
03:39:20,920 --> 03:39:25,240
Speaker 1: have taken Donald. So you know, the it's always gonna

4222
03:39:25,280 --> 03:39:28,000
Speaker 1: go back to Donald in my view, and maybe it's

4223
03:39:28,000 --> 03:39:31,360
Speaker 1: a it's a narrow view, but that you know, Jones

4224
03:39:31,480 --> 03:39:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna be stacked against soundly Haskins, but against Donalds because

4225
03:39:35,160 --> 03:39:39,119
Speaker 1: we had that opportunity to get Donald. Phil, you're you're Phil,

4226
03:39:39,120 --> 03:39:42,160
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, you know you're right. He's gonna be Look, Sam,

4227
03:39:42,240 --> 03:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Donald was not only could have been the Giants pick

4228
03:39:44,200 --> 03:39:46,800
Speaker 1: last year, he's also playing with the Jets in New York.

4229
03:39:46,879 --> 03:39:48,760
Speaker 1: He was a second overall pick. Jones is a sixth

4230
03:39:48,800 --> 03:39:51,800
Speaker 1: overall pick. They're gonna be compared forever. Jones will be

4231
03:39:51,840 --> 03:39:55,600
Speaker 1: compared to Haskins forever, and people are gonna compare him

4232
03:39:55,640 --> 03:39:58,080
Speaker 1: to Josh Rosen forever to because that's the guy that

4233
03:39:58,120 --> 03:40:00,520
Speaker 1: could have been had in a trade. So yeah, he's

4234
03:40:00,560 --> 03:40:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna be compared to those guys, there's no doubt about it. Yeah. So,

4235
03:40:05,360 --> 03:40:07,760
Speaker 1: but but I do like his temperament, just like I

4236
03:40:07,959 --> 03:40:12,480
Speaker 1: appreciate Kan's temperament. I think those guys are really good

4237
03:40:12,560 --> 03:40:14,959
Speaker 1: guys good, you know. I think they're gonna be good giants,

4238
03:40:15,000 --> 03:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you know. And you're a good giant is you know,

4239
03:40:16,560 --> 03:40:19,560
Speaker 1: because I'm older and a good giant is someone who

4240
03:40:19,920 --> 03:40:25,040
Speaker 1: doesn't embarrass you, plays hard, and uh hates the cowboys.

4241
03:40:27,920 --> 03:40:29,760
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's pretty good. Thank you, Phil,

4242
03:40:30,800 --> 03:40:33,520
Speaker 1: have a good day. Good appreciate it. Stephen Hoboken's up

4243
03:40:33,560 --> 03:40:39,440
Speaker 1: next day, Steve, Oh hey, guys, what's going on? Thank you?

4244
03:40:39,879 --> 03:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I hope I hope being good Night's sleep tonight. Yeah,

4245
03:40:46,440 --> 03:40:48,520
Speaker 1: you have no idea how long my to do list

4246
03:40:48,680 --> 03:40:51,600
Speaker 1: is at home? After these last several weeks of pushing

4247
03:40:51,680 --> 03:40:54,720
Speaker 1: it all to the side, and it starts with college

4248
03:40:54,760 --> 03:40:57,400
Speaker 1: tape for for the draft Nash No, probably starts with

4249
03:40:57,480 --> 03:41:03,600
Speaker 1: the lawn true. Anyway, guys, on Thursday night, I was

4250
03:41:03,760 --> 03:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of upset, like a lot of the

4251
03:41:05,280 --> 03:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Giant fans, But it looks like they did a good

4252
03:41:07,560 --> 03:41:09,800
Speaker 1: job putting some depths into this line up. So I

4253
03:41:09,840 --> 03:41:12,800
Speaker 1: have a two part question here. One in regards to

4254
03:41:12,879 --> 03:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the corners. With all these guys here, what does it

4255
03:41:15,480 --> 03:41:21,720
Speaker 1: mean for Generous Jenkins? I think No, I mean, I

4256
03:41:21,800 --> 03:41:23,480
Speaker 1: think he's the start of this year, he has he

4257
03:41:23,560 --> 03:41:27,400
Speaker 1: has I think two years left on his contract. Yeah,

4258
03:41:27,440 --> 03:41:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's here now. If if three

4259
03:41:30,160 --> 03:41:33,640
Speaker 1: of these rookies look like starting caliber players, and you know,

4260
03:41:33,760 --> 03:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Jenkins heading into the final year of his deal, you know,

4261
03:41:36,280 --> 03:41:39,080
Speaker 1: do do cap considerations come into plat Maybe? But I

4262
03:41:39,200 --> 03:41:41,680
Speaker 1: think the Giants are very happy with the play Genorris

4263
03:41:41,760 --> 03:41:44,000
Speaker 1: Jenkins has given him. And yeah, I mean, I think

4264
03:41:44,040 --> 03:41:45,800
Speaker 1: there's a good chance he can finish that contract with

4265
03:41:45,879 --> 03:41:48,320
Speaker 1: the Giants and be a good player along the way. Look,

4266
03:41:48,360 --> 03:41:49,840
Speaker 1: you can't have enough, you can't have enough corners, and

4267
03:41:49,879 --> 03:41:51,920
Speaker 1: these guys don't stay healthy the whole year, You're gonna

4268
03:41:52,000 --> 03:41:53,760
Speaker 1: need four or five or six over the course of

4269
03:41:53,800 --> 03:41:56,000
Speaker 1: the year. So there's nothing wrong with having a lot

4270
03:41:56,080 --> 03:41:57,960
Speaker 1: of good players at a position on your roster. And

4271
03:41:58,040 --> 03:42:01,640
Speaker 1: please don't don't miss out the point that Jenkins, as

4272
03:42:01,720 --> 03:42:04,920
Speaker 1: a longtime veteran who has been very savvy with his

4273
03:42:05,080 --> 03:42:08,920
Speaker 1: technical skills, can teach an awful lot to those three

4274
03:42:09,000 --> 03:42:14,360
Speaker 1: rookies in that room during their first season in the NFL. Yeah,

4275
03:42:14,440 --> 03:42:16,960
Speaker 1: I like, I get that. I look forward to after

4276
03:42:17,040 --> 03:42:21,280
Speaker 1: that all bets are off. Was um, do you think

4277
03:42:21,320 --> 03:42:23,320
Speaker 1: there's any chance that they would go after a tackle

4278
03:42:23,400 --> 03:42:27,120
Speaker 1: in the supplemental draft. I have not even looked at

4279
03:42:27,120 --> 03:42:28,880
Speaker 1: who's available, have you. Yeah, I mean they might not

4280
03:42:28,959 --> 03:42:30,440
Speaker 1: even be a tackle of I mean they guys haven't

4281
03:42:30,440 --> 03:42:32,080
Speaker 1: declared yet. If they wanted to come out, there would

4282
03:42:32,080 --> 03:42:34,120
Speaker 1: be in this draft. No, you don't find out until

4283
03:42:34,400 --> 03:42:36,560
Speaker 1: I know there are probably rumors as to what the tative.

4284
03:42:37,200 --> 03:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I would take a look right now while while we're

4285
03:42:39,600 --> 03:42:41,760
Speaker 1: talking to Usually you'll only have one or two or

4286
03:42:41,800 --> 03:42:44,440
Speaker 1: three players even taken in the supplemental draft, and there's

4287
03:42:44,440 --> 03:42:46,720
Speaker 1: a chance that that's not going to be a tackle.

4288
03:42:46,800 --> 03:42:48,800
Speaker 1: So I think that's a little bit of a reach.

4289
03:42:48,840 --> 03:42:53,280
Speaker 1: Steve got Okay, Well, we gotta we gotta get somebody else. Well,

4290
03:42:53,320 --> 03:42:57,000
Speaker 1: we'll find out alright, final car the show is the

4291
03:42:57,240 --> 03:42:59,440
Speaker 1: captain of the Sutton Smith fan Club and that's Coach

4292
03:42:59,520 --> 03:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Marvin and l or. Hey, coach, how are you doing, John?

4293
03:43:04,280 --> 03:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Heard you mentioned my uh Sutton today? Yeah? I know

4294
03:43:09,280 --> 03:43:12,360
Speaker 1: you love him? Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm a guy

4295
03:43:12,480 --> 03:43:14,760
Speaker 1: that you know, everybody knows the top of the list

4296
03:43:14,840 --> 03:43:17,240
Speaker 1: of guys. I'm always looking at the guys underneath all

4297
03:43:17,280 --> 03:43:19,600
Speaker 1: of that. That's why I picked him out. You know,

4298
03:43:20,720 --> 03:43:25,920
Speaker 1: everybody knows, you know, the uh class bounds of the world,

4299
03:43:26,080 --> 03:43:28,800
Speaker 1: but they don't really concentrate on the little school guys.

4300
03:43:28,959 --> 03:43:30,879
Speaker 1: Well you're gonna love You're gonna love the X man,

4301
03:43:31,200 --> 03:43:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that right now. Coach Marvin and Corey Balentine.

4302
03:43:34,200 --> 03:43:37,640
Speaker 1: By the way, two small school guys at the Giants pick. Obviously,

4303
03:43:37,680 --> 03:43:40,280
Speaker 1: Washburn's a lot smaller than than than Old Dominion is.

4304
03:43:40,560 --> 03:43:43,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, just Coach Marvin and John both

4305
03:43:44,200 --> 03:43:47,400
Speaker 1: just did a quick Internet search. There are no rumors

4306
03:43:47,440 --> 03:43:51,760
Speaker 1: about potential two thousand, eighteen or nineteen supplemental entries, so

4307
03:43:52,000 --> 03:43:54,480
Speaker 1: it's real. It really is premature. No rumors about who

4308
03:43:54,600 --> 03:43:57,240
Speaker 1: might be available. I don't even think we need to

4309
03:43:57,320 --> 03:43:59,680
Speaker 1: start looking into that right now anyway, because if it

4310
03:44:00,000 --> 03:44:01,600
Speaker 1: as the tackle gonna be in there, you know how

4311
03:44:01,640 --> 03:44:05,640
Speaker 1: many teams they're gonna jump in and try to go. Yeah,

4312
03:44:05,760 --> 03:44:07,800
Speaker 1: you have number ones all over the place of a

4313
03:44:08,000 --> 03:44:11,720
Speaker 1: good tackle coming out, it's very difficult to um to

4314
03:44:11,920 --> 03:44:15,480
Speaker 1: draft my tackle and uh top line tackle unless you're

4315
03:44:15,520 --> 03:44:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna draft them number one overall, and the rest of it,

4316
03:44:18,440 --> 03:44:21,280
Speaker 1: it's all luck and hopefully they fill out and you

4317
03:44:21,360 --> 03:44:24,680
Speaker 1: know in the supplement they're not supposed forget that, just

4318
03:44:24,800 --> 03:44:27,480
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get one and a as an unrestricted

4319
03:44:27,560 --> 03:44:30,080
Speaker 1: free agent or one of the free agents come then

4320
03:44:30,200 --> 03:44:33,119
Speaker 1: the free agency is still not over. You still consigned somebody,

4321
03:44:33,280 --> 03:44:35,240
Speaker 1: and there could always be a veteran that gets cut

4322
03:44:35,320 --> 03:44:38,640
Speaker 1: over the summer. It does happen. Yeah, but I was

4323
03:44:38,760 --> 03:44:42,760
Speaker 1: rooting for pet Words months before they take Conley and

4324
03:44:43,240 --> 03:44:45,480
Speaker 1: they took Commley. I was hoping it was pet Words

4325
03:44:45,520 --> 03:44:49,480
Speaker 1: out of him, and uh so that you know, and

4326
03:44:49,680 --> 03:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and that was one of the people that had to

4327
03:44:51,200 --> 03:44:54,840
Speaker 1: get my head down on day one. Um, but you

4328
03:44:54,920 --> 03:44:57,160
Speaker 1: know what, my head is up. I feel good. I

4329
03:44:57,280 --> 03:45:01,120
Speaker 1: think they did an excellent job. Pick Um. I'm a

4330
03:45:01,240 --> 03:45:03,560
Speaker 1: corner guy. I love corners, and they went and got

4331
03:45:03,640 --> 03:45:06,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and um, and I thought they

4332
03:45:06,879 --> 03:45:09,680
Speaker 1: did an excellent job. I know the fans are frustrated

4333
03:45:09,760 --> 03:45:12,480
Speaker 1: with the Jones pick, not so much to pick a

4334
03:45:12,560 --> 03:45:16,000
Speaker 1: way he was picked. I was one, but Johnson, You're right.

4335
03:45:16,600 --> 03:45:18,800
Speaker 1: He would not been there at thirty. And I hate

4336
03:45:18,800 --> 03:45:21,040
Speaker 1: to tell the fans, I don't think he would have

4337
03:45:21,080 --> 03:45:23,959
Speaker 1: been there at nine. Everybody talking about ten he would

4338
03:45:23,959 --> 03:45:27,080
Speaker 1: be able to got jumped and he made not been

4339
03:45:27,160 --> 03:45:31,200
Speaker 1: there time and we don't know that, and you're right,

4340
03:45:31,480 --> 03:45:33,760
Speaker 1: and you don't really you don't really think about that

4341
03:45:34,080 --> 03:45:36,600
Speaker 1: the day it happened. But I'm just here to let

4342
03:45:36,680 --> 03:45:40,000
Speaker 1: the people know he wasn't gonna be there and that

4343
03:45:40,160 --> 03:45:42,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to make it the seventeen. And if

4344
03:45:42,440 --> 03:45:45,280
Speaker 1: they wanted him, then what we got him. I would

4345
03:45:45,280 --> 03:45:47,760
Speaker 1: have liked Alan to who wouldn't have But you can't

4346
03:45:47,800 --> 03:45:49,920
Speaker 1: have it all. You gotta have what's best for your team.

4347
03:45:50,520 --> 03:45:54,080
Speaker 1: And they feel this, Um Jones, and they got him.

4348
03:45:54,200 --> 03:45:56,280
Speaker 1: They went and got him, and that's all you can do.

4349
03:45:58,360 --> 03:46:00,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Where to go, coach, Thank you

4350
03:46:01,080 --> 03:46:03,840
Speaker 1: all right, everybody, We're gonna wrap up our coverage here, Paul,

4351
03:46:03,879 --> 03:46:06,400
Speaker 1: you want to give quick final thoughts before we say goodbye.

4352
03:46:06,680 --> 03:46:10,400
Speaker 1: You know, I know that there will be immediate reactions

4353
03:46:10,440 --> 03:46:14,160
Speaker 1: and grades in tomorrow's papers, and you know, and you know,

4354
03:46:14,240 --> 03:46:16,840
Speaker 1: nobody didn't care about the second, third, and fourth round

4355
03:46:16,879 --> 03:46:18,920
Speaker 1: of fifth round. They're not going to and they should,

4356
03:46:18,959 --> 03:46:21,680
Speaker 1: but they're not. The Giants are going to catch all

4357
03:46:21,760 --> 03:46:26,080
Speaker 1: the criticism and the fire and brimstone and the flaming

4358
03:46:26,160 --> 03:46:30,480
Speaker 1: torches and flaming arrows because they didn't take Haskins at six,

4359
03:46:30,560 --> 03:46:32,560
Speaker 1: which is what most of the writers wanted them to do.

4360
03:46:33,440 --> 03:46:36,320
Speaker 1: Um But I'm here to tell you and I don't

4361
03:46:36,360 --> 03:46:38,760
Speaker 1: care if anybody likes it or not. I think the

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03:46:38,840 --> 03:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Giants had a terrific draft upon first inspection. Now, of course,

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03:46:44,040 --> 03:46:47,080
Speaker 1: it does take three years okay before you really have

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03:46:47,200 --> 03:46:51,080
Speaker 1: a clue. But if you want the gut check, knee jerk,

4365
03:46:51,240 --> 03:46:55,240
Speaker 1: hot take reaction, how could you be disappointed with the

4366
03:46:55,280 --> 03:46:58,040
Speaker 1: amount of defensive talent that they have put on this

4367
03:46:58,200 --> 03:47:03,120
Speaker 1: team in the last three especially at cornerback. And they

4368
03:47:03,200 --> 03:47:05,520
Speaker 1: did help themselves in the pass rage, and they did

4369
03:47:05,640 --> 03:47:08,400
Speaker 1: help themselves and stop in the run with a big

4370
03:47:08,560 --> 03:47:11,720
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pound piece of beef. How could

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03:47:11,800 --> 03:47:16,080
Speaker 1: anybody downgrade that they look Grades don't matter, folks, grades

4372
03:47:16,120 --> 03:47:18,800
Speaker 1: the day to the draft, their meaningless production matters. They

4373
03:47:18,800 --> 03:47:22,720
Speaker 1: don't mean anything because nobody knows this is a science.

4374
03:47:22,840 --> 03:47:25,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's an art. It's not a science. Excuse me.

4375
03:47:26,000 --> 03:47:27,959
Speaker 1: And we'll find out when these guys get in the field.

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03:47:27,959 --> 03:47:30,320
Speaker 1: We've seen picks that turn out to be great pan

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03:47:30,760 --> 03:47:33,880
Speaker 1: by experts. We've seen picks that are lauded by experts

4378
03:47:33,920 --> 03:47:36,440
Speaker 1: turned out to be busts. So you don't know how

4379
03:47:36,560 --> 03:47:38,280
Speaker 1: these players are gonna wind up. You don't know how

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03:47:38,320 --> 03:47:40,400
Speaker 1: good they're going to be the juries at and we're

4381
03:47:40,400 --> 03:47:42,360
Speaker 1: not gonna know for two or three years. But the

4382
03:47:42,440 --> 03:47:44,240
Speaker 1: Giants add a lot of players. They believe they have

4383
03:47:44,320 --> 03:47:47,480
Speaker 1: their next franchise quarterback. They have a centerpiece in their

4384
03:47:47,520 --> 03:47:49,640
Speaker 1: defense in the middle of their line with Dexter Lawrence.

4385
03:47:49,640 --> 03:47:52,000
Speaker 1: They add at three cornerbacks. Are they're still holes in

4386
03:47:52,040 --> 03:47:54,520
Speaker 1: the roster? Yeah? Do you still want to add some

4387
03:47:54,800 --> 03:47:57,520
Speaker 1: pass rush? Sure? Are you sure about right tackle? No?

4388
03:47:58,400 --> 03:48:00,800
Speaker 1: But as Dave Gentleman said, Rome was not built in

4389
03:48:00,840 --> 03:48:02,600
Speaker 1: a day. They're getting there. This is part of a

4390
03:48:02,680 --> 03:48:05,560
Speaker 1: building process and there's still work left to do, whether

4391
03:48:05,600 --> 03:48:07,800
Speaker 1: it's this offseason or even heading into next year's draft,

4392
03:48:08,120 --> 03:48:10,440
Speaker 1: to continue to get the team better. And that's where

4393
03:48:10,480 --> 03:48:13,440
Speaker 1: the Giants are. I don't our mind fans that Big

4394
03:48:13,480 --> 03:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Book Kickoff Live is presented by cores Light. Download the

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4396
03:48:18,680 --> 03:48:21,600
Speaker 1: will be back on Monday as we recap all the

4397
03:48:21,760 --> 03:48:24,120
Speaker 1: rounds in the draft, and then we'll be back with

4398
03:48:24,160 --> 03:48:26,199
Speaker 1: you and noon of course all week long on Giants

4399
03:48:26,280 --> 03:48:29,360
Speaker 1: dot com on Big Book Kickoff Live. All these shows

4400
03:48:29,400 --> 03:48:32,520
Speaker 1: will be archived on podcast form and on the website,

4401
03:48:32,600 --> 03:48:34,600
Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out. If you want

4402
03:48:34,640 --> 03:48:36,320
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to us and see how

4403
03:48:36,400 --> 03:48:39,200
Speaker 1: we made it through all three days, you could do that. Um,

4404
03:48:39,400 --> 03:48:41,440
Speaker 1: you can record stuff and call us out on us later.

4405
03:48:41,520 --> 03:48:43,840
Speaker 1: That's always fun too, but make sure you're tune in.

4406
03:48:44,080 --> 03:48:46,760
Speaker 1: And of course we'll have coverage of the press conferences

4407
03:48:46,879 --> 03:48:50,760
Speaker 1: at later today when the Giants front office addresses the media,

4408
03:48:51,400 --> 03:48:53,480
Speaker 1: and we'll have that on Giants dot Com. Make sure

4409
03:48:53,520 --> 03:48:55,560
Speaker 1: you check it out. And then of course the priority

4410
03:48:55,600 --> 03:48:59,280
Speaker 1: free agents start on Sunday or tonight, really where the

4411
03:48:59,360 --> 03:49:02,400
Speaker 1: team starts on these guys, and you know basically starts

4412
03:49:02,440 --> 03:49:05,000
Speaker 1: telling these guys who will be at rookie mini campus

4413
03:49:05,040 --> 03:49:09,040
Speaker 1: tryout players or signed undrafted free agents. And as Rick

4414
03:49:09,080 --> 03:49:11,360
Speaker 1: Seartella said it to us a few months ago, there

4415
03:49:11,400 --> 03:49:14,240
Speaker 1: were more undrafted free agents in the league than fourth, fifth, sixth,

4416
03:49:14,280 --> 03:49:17,400
Speaker 1: and seventh round players combined. So it's just as important

4417
03:49:17,720 --> 03:49:20,040
Speaker 1: who the Giants get his priority free agents, and they

4418
03:49:20,200 --> 03:49:22,880
Speaker 1: do a real good job with those like Victor Cruz

4419
03:49:23,120 --> 03:49:25,240
Speaker 1: and players like that that can help this team out. Now,

4420
03:49:25,280 --> 03:49:27,280
Speaker 1: I do want to apologize to all the fans. I'll

4421
03:49:27,280 --> 03:49:30,000
Speaker 1: be getting hundreds and hundreds of twitters because we've been

4422
03:49:30,040 --> 03:49:32,800
Speaker 1: doing these shows and we have just been absolutely wall

4423
03:49:32,880 --> 03:49:36,200
Speaker 1: to wall busy. I've tried to get to you folks overnight.

4424
03:49:36,800 --> 03:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Uh It's been three thirty four o'clock in the morning

4425
03:49:39,760 --> 03:49:41,600
Speaker 1: before I've even had a chance to take a breath.

4426
03:49:41,960 --> 03:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I do apologize for that at Giants w f A

4427
03:49:44,720 --> 03:49:47,080
Speaker 1: n at Schmelk. I will try to get to some

4428
03:49:47,240 --> 03:49:49,560
Speaker 1: of you at some point later today. And of course,

4429
03:49:49,600 --> 03:49:51,440
Speaker 1: the Giants still have some picks to go in the

4430
03:49:51,520 --> 03:49:55,080
Speaker 1: sixth and seventh round, and we'll be glad by the

4431
03:49:55,160 --> 03:49:58,240
Speaker 1: way to comment on those for you once those guys

4432
03:49:58,280 --> 03:50:01,040
Speaker 1: are in but for the I'm being I think we

4433
03:50:01,160 --> 03:50:03,440
Speaker 1: need a good stiff drink. John. Yeah, the Giants do

4434
03:50:03,520 --> 03:50:05,800
Speaker 1: have two picks left, pick two thirty two in the

4435
03:50:05,880 --> 03:50:08,200
Speaker 1: seventh round and two forty five, which I believe is

4436
03:50:08,200 --> 03:50:09,920
Speaker 1: the next to last pick in the draft. That's right,

4437
03:50:10,960 --> 03:50:15,000
Speaker 1: that's a compensatory pick um that they got. Any actually

4438
03:50:15,080 --> 03:50:17,680
Speaker 1: take that back. That is the Rams pick that they

4439
03:50:17,720 --> 03:50:19,640
Speaker 1: got in the Alcogalt trade, and the pick of two

4440
03:50:19,720 --> 03:50:21,480
Speaker 1: thirty two is the trade they picked they got from

4441
03:50:21,520 --> 03:50:24,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings in the Brett Jones trade over the summer.

4442
03:50:24,520 --> 03:50:26,520
Speaker 1: So again, stay tuned the Giants dot com for continuing

4443
03:50:26,560 --> 03:50:31,920
Speaker 1: coverage on the sixth rounder. Yeah, they picked Corey Ballentine.

4444
03:50:31,960 --> 03:50:35,840
Speaker 1: We didn't, They just did. I told you my brain

4445
03:50:36,000 --> 03:50:43,120
Speaker 1: is Bush. Paul might be answering you on Twitter, Guys,

4446
03:50:43,120 --> 03:50:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna shut down after today, so I'm not

4447
03:50:45,080 --> 03:50:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna look at John tweet. I'm not only at any

4448
03:50:47,400 --> 03:50:49,800
Speaker 1: tweets until Monday, so we'll see you then. Again, stay

4449
03:50:49,840 --> 03:50:51,480
Speaker 1: tuned the Giants dot com for coverage for the post

4450
03:50:51,560 --> 03:50:53,800
Speaker 1: draft press conferences for Paul the Tino. I'm John Schmilk,

4451
03:50:53,840 --> 03:50:56,320
Speaker 1: and again I can't thank you enough for helping us

4452
03:50:56,360 --> 03:50:59,000
Speaker 1: do these shows. The last two days, we did four

4453
03:50:59,040 --> 03:51:03,000
Speaker 1: hours yesterday, we've done just about four hours today. We're

4454
03:51:03,080 --> 03:51:05,360
Speaker 1: five minutes away from four o'clock. And we couldn't have

4455
03:51:05,400 --> 03:51:08,640
Speaker 1: done it without a full bank of phone calls than

4456
03:51:09,760 --> 03:51:11,960
Speaker 1: we really appreciate it. We're very thankful. We couldn't do

4457
03:51:12,040 --> 03:51:14,640
Speaker 1: the show without you and yell at us agree or disagree,

4458
03:51:14,680 --> 03:51:17,440
Speaker 1: we have fun. I hope you had fun too. For Polatino,

4459
03:51:17,480 --> 03:51:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. We'll see on Monday on Big Book

4460
03:51:20,400 --> 03:51:22,680
Speaker 1: goes live on giants dot Com. Enjoy the rest of

4461
03:51:22,720 --> 03:51:23,200
Speaker 1: your weekend.