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Speaker 1: time anecdotes in Cardinal's History, and tonight it's two for one.
Speaker 1: A little bit later, we're gonna go back to Mexico
Speaker 1: City two thousand and five revisit the Cardinal's historic trip
Speaker 1: to a Stadio Azteca. But off the top, we might
Speaker 1: need to apologize in advance here, considering it's dinner time,
Speaker 1: because maybe you've heard the cliche leave a piece of
Speaker 1: yourself out on that field. Well, former Cardinals safety Rashad
Speaker 1: Johnson did exactly that back in two thirteen at New Orleans.
Speaker 1: As we hit the play button on this Cardinal's folk
Speaker 1: tales titled nine More, hearing about people climb through a
Speaker 1: garbage can to get a fingertipped out of a glove
Speaker 1: and all that even now kind of giving me the willies.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get your finger caught in the door
Speaker 1: or something. It hurts, so I can't even imagine it's gruesome.
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Voodoo Woodoo was a little crazy that week.
Speaker 1: When I heard about it, I was like, what they're doing? What? Like,
Speaker 1: how did that happen? And in that moment, machinery comes in.
Speaker 1: I mean, where's the rest of the finger. It was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, y'all looking for his finger. Just check
Speaker 1: the trash. I think it's in his glove. You may
Speaker 1: want to get that glove out of the garbage can
Speaker 1: and see what the rest of the finger looks like.
Speaker 1: And the glove is still intact, you know, it's normal,
Speaker 1: and like, let's just cut on up the finger and see.
Speaker 1: And they cut up the finger and it just falls
Speaker 1: right there on the table. We found out later that
Speaker 1: he got his fingers stuck in this little small hole
Speaker 1: in the side of the guy's helmet and it just
Speaker 1: snapped it off. Boom. My head didn't happen. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to shake it off, but as I'm shaking it,
Speaker 1: it's like some fires on the tip of it. The
Speaker 1: a result of Cardinals last a football game, safety Rashaw
Speaker 1: Johnson lost a piece of himself. Literally, how do you
Speaker 1: explain to the coaches this, Yeah, he lost a finger,
Speaker 1: and you know he's not gonna be ready. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long I'm telling you. Rashaw I thought it
Speaker 1: was like a war story. How he was explaining it
Speaker 1: to everybody. Look at my finger, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: sending them pictures of it. And like it's just what
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Like, what's going on? No rehab,
Speaker 1: no replacement, no growing back. Rashaw Johnson didn't give the
Speaker 1: finger to New Orleans. He gave a finger. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: missing a finger, so ten percent off? Are we can't?
Speaker 1: The price isn't good. Welcome to Cardinal's Folk Tales nine More,
Speaker 1: presented by Sky, where we go in depth into Cardinal's
Speaker 1: history all time anecdotes through the recollections and memories of
Speaker 1: those who lived it or in my case, those who
Speaker 1: covered it. My name is Paul KELBC, Cardinal's sideline reporter.
Speaker 1: This is the story of how Rashaw Johnson and his
Speaker 1: finger went viral, how his middle finger became the same
Speaker 1: length as his index finger. I think, looking back on
Speaker 1: it now, we didn't realize how big of a story
Speaker 1: it was. Sean Johnson, He's probably saying I had to
Speaker 1: lose the tip of my finger to get on the
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. The question was asked like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know you lost a portion of your finger. You
Speaker 1: lost a finger, you know, Like, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I got nine more. Here's Paul or Sean Johnson out
Speaker 1: of the game right now? A finger injury and his
Speaker 1: return is considered questionable. Guys just wanted to send that update.
Speaker 1: We had no idea at the time of the injury.
Speaker 1: That brief sideline report was because we weren't briefed on
Speaker 1: the severity of the injury until well the gloves came off.
Speaker 1: Look as an NFL player, you're paid a lot of money,
Speaker 1: partly because you run the risk of paying a heavy price.
Speaker 1: Like September twenty second, twenty thirteen, Cardinals against the Saints,
Speaker 1: Week three, headed in the New Orleans Superdome, Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Michael Colston, big challenge for our secondary, really
Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity to go in and play this game,
Speaker 1: and for Rashad as a starting safety and one of
Speaker 1: the best tacklers on the roster, his duties included special
Speaker 1: teams and maybe the toughest task of all, trying to
Speaker 1: corral the Saints three time Pro Bowl return man. They
Speaker 1: have Darren Spros, who probably will be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame one day. I'll just gone gone. Record hell
Speaker 1: of a player, was a great player for the Saints,
Speaker 1: and everybody that knows Darren Spros, you know he's a
Speaker 1: smaller guy, quicker guy. He is so difficult to tackle.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's like trying to catch a soap
Speaker 1: bubble on a beach's brutal. You're not always gonna get
Speaker 1: a big shot, big hit on him. A lot of
Speaker 1: times you're gonna be regent. That's former Cardinals dB Gerard Powers.
Speaker 1: And that is foreshadowing because in a seven seven game,
Speaker 1: late first half, the Cardinals on punk cover and here
Speaker 1: comes that five foot six, one hundred ninety pounds stick
Speaker 1: of dynamite hi kick backing up, Sprawls, waits for it fields.
Speaker 1: It is fourteen runs right to the twenty to the
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. So let's a tackle at the
Speaker 1: thirty close up the thirty five of the forty yard line,
Speaker 1: and they can finally get to him at the forty
Speaker 1: one yard line. All right, goodness, is he dangerous? Jasper
Speaker 1: Brinkley with a special team's tackle. A handful of other
Speaker 1: Cardinals whiffed, And for one Cardinal it was for good reason.
Speaker 1: Kind of a crazy play, fluke injury covering a punt.
Speaker 1: You know, a routine play that I've done a million times.
Speaker 1: We punt the ball down and I'm going to cover it.
Speaker 1: Darren Sprows is the returner, and I initiate a blocker,
Speaker 1: and in that moment when I initiate him, I just
Speaker 1: shed away and go in to make the tackle. At
Speaker 1: this point when roche finger gets caught in his helmet,
Speaker 1: he was at a point and he was trying to
Speaker 1: reach to make a tackle, and everything happened so fast
Speaker 1: that when he reached and I guess his finger gets
Speaker 1: caught in the crossbar of his helmet. I go to
Speaker 1: the huddle and I get the call, and I played
Speaker 1: the next down. And for some of our reason, like
Speaker 1: my hand is just intensely intensifying, the pain is getting worse,
Speaker 1: and that's when we're shod. And his bloody glove caught
Speaker 1: the attention of Cardinals, said trainer Tom Reid. Run up
Speaker 1: beside him and immediately noticing his glove. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of blood, and I look down and before I know it,
Speaker 1: my white glove is it's far hot red. It's blood everywhere.
Speaker 1: I come off the field, and you know, just thinking like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe I lost the nail. Maybe you know something happened there.
Speaker 1: They run inside and get him on the table with
Speaker 1: a bunch of gauze and gulls under and over his
Speaker 1: hand and carefully peeled back his glove. The excitement that
Speaker 1: I had was beginning to wear off, and before I
Speaker 1: know it, I could feel my heartbeat in my hand.
Speaker 1: It's like my hand is beating at the same rhythm
Speaker 1: as my heart. And all I can say is to
Speaker 1: the Doctor's like, hey, man, I need some drugs, Like
Speaker 1: I need something. He's like, well, we have to fully
Speaker 1: evaluate you before we can actually give you something, and
Speaker 1: you know, so give us a chance to get the
Speaker 1: glove off. And that's when things got ugly. And it's
Speaker 1: right about now that the medical staff realize they're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to put their finger on the
Speaker 1: problem without the rest of the glove. They get just
Speaker 1: to the end where there's probably about just the tip
Speaker 1: of their finger left with dissecting back to glove, take
Speaker 1: it off and throw it in the garbage. Doctor Watzluski
Speaker 1: puts a bunch of gauze on his finger because there's
Speaker 1: blood flying everywhere, right, and in that moment, machinery comes in.
Speaker 1: I mean, where's the rest of the finger? The machine
Speaker 1: would be assistant trainer Jim Sheer, who'd been on the
Speaker 1: job for nearly four decades. He dabs it a couple
Speaker 1: of times and looks at it and tells, machine, you
Speaker 1: may want to get that glove out of the garbage
Speaker 1: can and see what the rest of the finger is.
Speaker 1: Looks like glove. It was just like, oh, y'all looking
Speaker 1: forward his finger, just check the trash. I think it's
Speaker 1: in his glove. Yeah, A guy who thought he'd seen
Speaker 1: it all was dumpster diving in the visiting locker room.
Speaker 1: And the glove is still intact, you know, it's normal,
Speaker 1: and like, let's just cut on up the finger and see.
Speaker 1: And they cut up the finger and it just falls
Speaker 1: right there on the table. It's just a small piece
Speaker 1: of bone and a little bit of nail and a
Speaker 1: little bit of skin. Nothing that they can put back
Speaker 1: together again. So essentially he was missing from the bottom
Speaker 1: part of his nail. The rest of his finger was gone.
Speaker 1: From there, we hopping an ambulance and you know, begin
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital and have immediate surgery. Take
Speaker 1: them over to the hospital, shave it back the little
Speaker 1: nub of bone that was there, so that there was
Speaker 1: enough skin left to make a flap and fold it
Speaker 1: up and sew it at like a flap, kind of
Speaker 1: like you're closing the end of a bag, and I
Speaker 1: could begin to watch the rest of the game from
Speaker 1: the surgical room there in New Orleans Hospital. They put
Speaker 1: enough medicine and numbed it enough for Rashad to be
Speaker 1: able to film the whole procedure. That's right. Instead of
Speaker 1: studying film, Rashad Johnson was filming his own surgery. Just
Speaker 1: another Sunday on the job. And maybe it was the
Speaker 1: painkiller talking, but Rashad was already talking about the next Sunday,
Speaker 1: what's the next step? Like? Am I gonna be able
Speaker 1: to play next week? You know? Am I gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get a manicure again? Like? You know, those
Speaker 1: are serious of questions that we got to talk about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson there, and I still don't know what's harder
Speaker 1: to believe that it actually happened, that injury or his
Speaker 1: good natured reaction. Hence the title of this Cardinals Folktale
Speaker 1: nine more, because look, only one other player really in
Speaker 1: NFL history can relate. His name is Ronnie Lott and
Speaker 1: that is next. As we continue with this special edition
Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in
Speaker 1: Gilbert and welcome back everyone into this special edition of
Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, presented by Santanford and Gilbert On
Speaker 1: Paul Calvic. And when we talk about former Cardinals safety
Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson, if you're talking about a former walk on
Speaker 1: running back at Alabama who ended up a two time
Speaker 1: team captain as a safety, an eight year NFL player
Speaker 1: who had sixteen picks and one lost fingertip. And that's
Speaker 1: where we pick it up, right after surgery following his
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen game in New Orleans Cardinals Folk Tales nine.
Speaker 1: More So, here's the postop report in emergency surgery at
Speaker 1: the hospital. The hand specialist shaved down the bone to
Speaker 1: prevent infection and stitch up the wound. There were no
Speaker 1: plans to reattach the fingertip, and in a nod to
Speaker 1: modern medicine, Rashad was already back at this stadium before
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Now here's Darren Urban from
Speaker 1: ac Cardinals dot Com and Cardinals cornerbacks coach Kevin Ross,
Speaker 1: who both at the time, like most everyone, we're still unaware.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I didn't know about that until after
Speaker 1: the game was over. You know, we knew he had
Speaker 1: left the game, so that was part of it, but
Speaker 1: we didn't really understand the gravity of the situation, which
Speaker 1: probably would have made me a little queasy anyways, because
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gross. Man. You think about your finger
Speaker 1: getting sniped right now, that's painful. I mean that hurts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get your finger caught in a door
Speaker 1: or something, it hurts. So I can't even imagine. That's gruesome.
Speaker 1: Hearing about people climbing through a garbage can to get
Speaker 1: a fingertip out of a glove and all that even
Speaker 1: now kind of giving me the Willie clipped off and
Speaker 1: did Ronnie Lott thing. It's like the Ronnie Lotton effect.
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott forty nine ers Hall of Fame defensive back
Speaker 1: known for hard hits, picks and is pinky or what's
Speaker 1: left of it because in nineteen eighty five eighty six,
Speaker 1: Lot declined bone graph surgery to fully repair his left
Speaker 1: pinky finger. Instead, a Lot famously told team doctors to
Speaker 1: take the top of his injured finger off so he
Speaker 1: wouldn't miss any time. Let's just say, Rashard Johnson is
Speaker 1: in a very exclusive claw. You know, getting a call
Speaker 1: from running Lot, you know, got an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: on the call with him and just getting some insight,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people wouldn't understand us wanting to
Speaker 1: go back after such a maybe traumatic injury or having
Speaker 1: something so vastly you know, happened to your life and
Speaker 1: him losing you know, his finger. People wanted like, why
Speaker 1: are you trying to go back and play? But there's
Speaker 1: something that we love to do, and then we love
Speaker 1: to compete, and you know, you battle through adversity to
Speaker 1: do what you love. Some of the things that he
Speaker 1: told me, man, So I just really valued that experience,
Speaker 1: you know, through it all. I think this was Rashad's
Speaker 1: way of saying, like I got stripes now, you know,
Speaker 1: nobody can say like I've been through it all, like
Speaker 1: like I've gave part of my finger to the game,
Speaker 1: almost like a sacrifice. I think he helped our mental
Speaker 1: toughness out back in the back and big time. I
Speaker 1: think he helped a whole defense period showing that kind
Speaker 1: of cap doing toughness. I mean definitely ended up being
Speaker 1: something that you know, people could say it was supposed
Speaker 1: to set you back, but for me, I always kind
Speaker 1: of find a way to say, you know, it can
Speaker 1: either be fuel or it can be wait and you
Speaker 1: decide for me. You know, it's I always fuel to
Speaker 1: the fire to keep going, and Rashad definitely kept going,
Speaker 1: missing only two games, and then in his third game back,
Speaker 1: he had two picks. Cardinals dial up up lets back
Speaker 1: to pass, Ryan fires deep nearside, easy interception at the
Speaker 1: twelve yard line. For Rashaw Johnson. Back to pass goes,
Speaker 1: Ryan fires it up into the air nearside, gonna be
Speaker 1: an easy interception at the twenty five yard line. It's Johnson. Now.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind then in college, Rashaw Johnson was a
Speaker 1: walk on at Alabama, a walk on running back from
Speaker 1: a tiny one A high school in state, a zero
Speaker 1: star recruit who ended up first team All SEC as
Speaker 1: a safety for Nick Saban and one of the only
Speaker 1: two time team captains in Bama history. You know, I
Speaker 1: knew how quickly the tables could turn and how much
Speaker 1: it meant to, you know, continue to push forward, to
Speaker 1: have that fighter mentality. So that's something that I've always had,
Speaker 1: and I think it rubbed off from that group to
Speaker 1: continue to push forward and continue to fight for each other.
Speaker 1: And as much as teammates look out for each other,
Speaker 1: right push to each other they bag on each other
Speaker 1: as well. And let's just say that Rashad had to
Speaker 1: play defense in his own mocker room. I remember Gerrarde
Speaker 1: was always just saying, like, man, that tip is gonna
Speaker 1: cost you an interception. And I was like, man, like,
Speaker 1: don't play like. We don't need to say those type
Speaker 1: of things. And Gerarde tipped the ball and it came
Speaker 1: over the top and I had it right in my
Speaker 1: fingers and it went right off that finger till better
Speaker 1: for Sean Johnson had ten fingers instead of nine and
Speaker 1: a half, he might have picked that one off. I
Speaker 1: never forgive me. Come in the locker room. He was
Speaker 1: like that day finger, I told you looking in that
Speaker 1: day finger, you know how Girde is. He's like, I
Speaker 1: had that pvure you supposed to make that play. So
Speaker 1: that was the one man. If anybody gave me heck
Speaker 1: about it, it was definitely JP. And these nine more
Speaker 1: stories they still resonate, Like in twenty twenty when Cardinals
Speaker 1: All Pro safety Buddha Baker's snaged his first career pick
Speaker 1: with a cast on his hand. Here's the Cardinals radio team,
Speaker 1: Dave Pash and Ron Wolflett. He's not the first Cardinal
Speaker 1: ever to play with nine fingers. Yes, Rashad Johnson did that.
Speaker 1: Of course, Rashads fell off Buddha's His back intact is
Speaker 1: this is the most graphic injury report ever. I'm a
Speaker 1: truth teller, Wolf. I mean, it's it's not like it's
Speaker 1: a story that people aren't aware of. Rashad is still
Speaker 1: doing just fine. I think, looking back on it now,
Speaker 1: we didn't realize how big of a story it was.
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson, He's probably saying, I had to lose the
Speaker 1: tip of my finger to get on the Dan Patrick Show. Hey,
Speaker 1: but that's how you do it up. In those next
Speaker 1: few days, Rashad went on not only would Dan Patrick,
Speaker 1: but Sports Center, the Jim Roll Show. Rashad was the
Speaker 1: subject of a full feature on Sunday NFL Countdown. But
Speaker 1: Rashad himself was the one who tweeted out three gruesome
Speaker 1: images of his forlorn finger. So leave it to Cardinal's
Speaker 1: marketing whiz Orlando Abola to come up with an idea
Speaker 1: that he ran up the flag Bowl with Darren Urban
Speaker 1: of az Cardinals dot Com. I remember getting a text
Speaker 1: from Orlando saying, you know, kind of playing off of it,
Speaker 1: and he sent the little screenshot of this, you know,
Speaker 1: foam finger that was missing a tip obviously, just like
Speaker 1: Rashod and I thought it was hilarious. I thought it
Speaker 1: was Orlando kind of being Orlando. But then we started
Speaker 1: talking about it a little bit and like, you know,
Speaker 1: do you think we can put that out there without
Speaker 1: essentially offending anybody, including Rashot and Jim and Mohundro was
Speaker 1: running the social media at the time. You know, we
Speaker 1: went back and forth for about five minutes, and we
Speaker 1: decided to hey, let's send a text or a shot
Speaker 1: and see what he thinks. So Darren fires off a text.
Speaker 1: In less than a minute. Rashotte gets back and says, oh,
Speaker 1: this is great. I love it. Leah, yeah, do it?
Speaker 1: Do it? Do it? So we put that out and
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, the retweets start racking up,
Speaker 1: and you know, we went viral, not just on social media.
Speaker 1: What I really remember most of all is later that day,
Speaker 1: being in the hotel room, the two of us, and
Speaker 1: we had ESPN Sports Center on, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden having that tweet show up on Sports Center
Speaker 1: and we're thinking, okay, this has really hit the big
Speaker 1: time that you have this tweet out there of making
Speaker 1: fun of what probably wasn't something you shouldn't be making
Speaker 1: fun of, to be honest, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of talk afterwards, um, you know,
Speaker 1: from the burn part of the interruption to Sports Center,
Speaker 1: you know, talking to it on sunt before you know,
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game. We knew it was a big
Speaker 1: story because I was like, the guy made T shirts
Speaker 1: that saying that he got nine more fingers. The question
Speaker 1: was asked like, hey man, you know you lost a
Speaker 1: portion of your finger. You lost a finger. You know, like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I got nine more? And
Speaker 1: everybody warred under their shoulder path for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year and all of that nine more as a mindset,
Speaker 1: you know, like do I focus on the one I do?
Speaker 1: I focus on what I have? So I think it's
Speaker 1: just a shift in life. It's what I do, you know,
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, It's what's gotten me through the
Speaker 1: transition post my career. It's like, do you focus on
Speaker 1: not playing football out no more? Or on the beauty
Speaker 1: of your wife and the beautiful girls that you have.
Speaker 1: So on one hand, Rashad's missing finger was the most
Speaker 1: click story on ESPN dot com. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: Rashad's young daughter saw it differently as simply her daddy's identity.
Speaker 1: Something that looked like an imperfection to me became a
Speaker 1: soother to her because at nighttime, when she wanted to
Speaker 1: lay down, she would want to hold my hand, but
Speaker 1: she would want to grab this finger. She didn't want
Speaker 1: any other finger but that finger, and she would hold
Speaker 1: it and like lay there and hold it until she
Speaker 1: went to sleep. And it was just just the greatest
Speaker 1: thing to me, because, like I said, like it looked
Speaker 1: like an imperfection, look like something you know, it was
Speaker 1: taken from me, but it's an actual comforter to her,
Speaker 1: and so it was just it was so much beauty
Speaker 1: in that for me. See, it's not all downside. In fact,
Speaker 1: Rashad also finds beauty in the nine and a half
Speaker 1: finger discount the perks. I think the biggest one was
Speaker 1: the ten percent off on the manicures. I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, I used that every time I go into
Speaker 1: the salon and I'm in there and the ladies like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You know, they kind of asking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'm missing a finger. So ten percent
Speaker 1: off are we can't the price isn't good. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of one of the things I use all the
Speaker 1: time when I go to do something like that. Post
Speaker 1: my injury, I actually had more productions, you know, as
Speaker 1: an interceptor fact. In his eight year NFL career, Rashaw
Speaker 1: Johnson had sixteen interceptions including playoffs, three before the injury
Speaker 1: and thirteen after. And Gerard Powers has a theory maybe
Speaker 1: that him losing a part of that finger gave him
Speaker 1: some type of advantage and catching the ball, because I
Speaker 1: don't remember him being that good of a catcher when
Speaker 1: all ten of his fingers were intact. Speaking of memories,
Speaker 1: how often is Rashad Johnson reminded of the injury? He
Speaker 1: definitely comes up a lot since you know, post career,
Speaker 1: there's very few guys that have played the game and
Speaker 1: actually lost a portion, you know, of their finger myself
Speaker 1: and running lot er two that I can think of.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Rashad, I thought it was like a
Speaker 1: war story, how he was explaining it to everybody like
Speaker 1: he had just you know, we'll probably keep adding stuff
Speaker 1: to it as the years ago. Like at some point,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it'll be a game saving tackle lost
Speaker 1: his finger, you know, and all that type of deal.
Speaker 1: So every year we add and add to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the tall tales might grow, but the middle finger not
Speaker 1: so much. Keep in mind, the first three fingers on
Speaker 1: Rashad's left hand are all basically the same length. And
Speaker 1: I remember just literally laughing at him because I kept saying,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I say your finger is
Speaker 1: gonna grow back. Do have a nail that is continually
Speaker 1: trying to grow back? So maybe if I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: go through the whole process, then you know, it would
Speaker 1: have kind of grew back in some dysform kind of
Speaker 1: way maybe, and it gave me my full function. But
Speaker 1: but I'm glad to have, you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: that I can't get. I just reach into my other
Speaker 1: hand if I got to get something out of the
Speaker 1: corner of that pocket. When I get older and my
Speaker 1: kids grow and this story getting brought up at a
Speaker 1: family function with me and Rashad, I'm gonna definitely be
Speaker 1: the one that's animated and telling everything that happens. And
Speaker 1: that's Cardinal's Folk Tales nine more presented by Seeking Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us everyone. For producer Jim almahndre, I'm Paul Calvci.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, if anyone is equipped to handle the emotions
Speaker 1: and aftermath of losing a part of themselves. Literally, when
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson said after the game that Rashat's finger was
Speaker 1: quote leaking like a faucet, well, Rashat has always been
Speaker 1: that one percent in more ways than one. It's definitely
Speaker 1: a mentality as a one percenter. You know on NFL
Speaker 1: that you have to have that mentality to take adversity
Speaker 1: and use it as fuel. And again Rashad Johnson missing
Speaker 1: his fingertip only missed two games and then in his
Speaker 1: first game back he had two picks. That is a
Speaker 1: Cardinals folktale. But we're not done yet on this special
Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage with Mexico City and
Speaker 1: the Cardinal schedule this season, We're going to go back
Speaker 1: to the two thousand and five trip to a Stadio
Speaker 1: Azteca when we continue on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert and welcome back in everyone
Speaker 1: to this very special edition of The Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. On Paul calvcr Cardinals
Speaker 1: Folk Tales edition where he can't spell the word history
Speaker 1: without the words story. And I'd say in my more
Speaker 1: than two decades of covering the Cardinals home and away,
Speaker 1: the Mexico City road Trip circuit two thousand and five
Speaker 1: was top five all time. First off, you're in Mexico's
Speaker 1: capital city. Elevation seventy seven hundred feet, that's more than
Speaker 1: two thousand feet higher than Denver, in a legendary stadium,
Speaker 1: NonStop energy, over a hundred thousand fans in there, right,
Speaker 1: Every play matters to these fans. You know, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: have a vast radio network in Mexico that has grown
Speaker 1: over the years, and so much of that growth you
Speaker 1: can trace back to that October night two thousand and
Speaker 1: five as we hit play on this Cardinal's foulktale titled
Speaker 1: One Time in Mexico. What were your thoughts I'm playing
Speaker 1: in Mexico. First of all, it was great. It's the
Speaker 1: greatest fans to get outside the world and this world
Speaker 1: you know how we do it. I thought it was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments of my career, believe it
Speaker 1: or not. I mean, one hundred, two hundred games, but
Speaker 1: the way Stadios Deccan Mexican peep reacted to that flag.
Speaker 1: I got goose bumps under here. I mean it was
Speaker 1: absolutely in fuego. We're about to come into the biggest
Speaker 1: arena in Latin America, and I think a style of
Speaker 1: steak guy really broughted that day. I come to the
Speaker 1: coach and Dennis Green, is this actually happening? An NFL
Speaker 1: professional game is being played here? One that counts. It
Speaker 1: actually happened. It definitely counted, and it will always stand
Speaker 1: as NFL history. An amazing scene, flashbulbs popping for the
Speaker 1: first ever National Football League regular season game abroad. That's right,
Speaker 1: Never before had an NFL regular season game been played
Speaker 1: outside the United States. This is Cardinals Folk Tales presented
Speaker 1: by seventy two sold where we go in depth into
Speaker 1: Cardinal's history, all time anecdotes through the personal recollections and
Speaker 1: memories of those who lived. It was in freaking incredible.
Speaker 1: It was called the birth of international football for the
Speaker 1: NFL one time in Mexico, that time when the Cardinals
Speaker 1: turned a home game into the first ever NFL regular
Speaker 1: season contest played on international soil. My name is Paul
Speaker 1: calBC and I was part of the Cardinals radio broadcast
Speaker 1: team that day along with analyst Ron Wolfley and longtime
Speaker 1: voice of the Cardinals Dave Patch. October second, two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, the Cardinals again make history as they take
Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine ers from a Stadio
Speaker 1: as Tecca in Mexico City. Estadio as Teco build as
Speaker 1: Mexico's mythical Temple. One of the world's most revered stadiums.
Speaker 1: It is hosted World Cup Finals and has wowed everyone
Speaker 1: from Pelee to the Pope. The atmosphere pretty unbelievable. Die
Speaker 1: hard football fans here. Even if some of these folks
Speaker 1: have never seen an NFL game on television, they are
Speaker 1: into it. Before we get to that day in that stadium.
Speaker 1: Realized that it all started years earlier with the advent
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals new stadium team owner Michael Bidwell. The
Speaker 1: largest population of NFL fans outside the United States is
Speaker 1: actually Mexico City. And so I looked at it, and
Speaker 1: I went to Commissioner Taglibu, and I said, look, we've
Speaker 1: got one season left at Sundeville Stadium. We're happy to
Speaker 1: give up a game, especially if it's an early game,
Speaker 1: and play a home game regular season. It had never
Speaker 1: been done in regular season, and so we looked at
Speaker 1: this idea of taking it international. It's time now for
Speaker 1: the Mexican and American national anthems he got as a kid.
Speaker 1: You would see it a lot, right if you would
Speaker 1: set on TV, and sometimes you would say, one day,
Speaker 1: I want to walk that field. I was there. I
Speaker 1: was walking in with my Cardinals. That's the voice of
Speaker 1: Rolando Canto, the first Mexican born non kicker to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He was an offensive lineman for that
Speaker 1: two thousand and five Cardinals team. And as big as
Speaker 1: Rolando is in person, just physically, he's a giant the
Speaker 1: measurables of an NFL old lineman six five, three sixty plus,
Speaker 1: his persona is bigger in Mexico. Dave Pash, Rolando's a
Speaker 1: great story, and I think you know Rolando in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. For a lot of people, there probably
Speaker 1: was a symbol of hope, like, hey, Rolando's playing pro football.
Speaker 1: You know I can play pro football, I can break ground.
Speaker 1: Rolando represents a lot for many people. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that this guy, the first actual national to come
Speaker 1: from Mexico and not be a kicker. We saw a
Speaker 1: lot of Rolando Cantu jersey's being sold, a lot of
Speaker 1: people buying it. We had some real stars at the time,
Speaker 1: and they're getting off the bus, walking right through the
Speaker 1: Mexican press and then all of a sudden, Rolando Canto
Speaker 1: and they just swarm on him. They didn't know who
Speaker 1: some of these other guys were that were just walking
Speaker 1: past him. I'm surprised they didn't have him like on
Speaker 1: a throne carrying him around. I mean, he was like
Speaker 1: a legend, and for good reason for making the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals team. But I just remember everybody talked about Rolando, like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you know Rolando. You know Rolando Cantu. Yes, I know,
Speaker 1: I know Rolando Cantu. They weren't concerned with a young
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald or you know, they just wanted to know
Speaker 1: if we knew Rolando. For those of us who are
Speaker 1: on that trip, there was Rolando Canto and everyone else
Speaker 1: was a sidekick, even fits. But that goes back to
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, when as a kid, Rolando attended the
Speaker 1: American bull a series of preseason NFL games helped outside
Speaker 1: the US, including when the Chiefs and Cowboys met in
Speaker 1: his native Monterey Mexico. But this wasn't any preseason game,
Speaker 1: and the fans, they knew it. That day. The fans
Speaker 1: were different. They were hungry to be a part of
Speaker 1: something unique. And the unique part about it was this
Speaker 1: was a regular season game. This game was going to count.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an American Bowl, it wasn't an exhibition game.
Speaker 1: This game was going to be remembered in the history books.
Speaker 1: And if you got to take it to go to
Speaker 1: a Styosteca, you're a part of history. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: previous NFL record for attendance for a regular season game
Speaker 1: was when the Rams played the Niners at the La
Speaker 1: Coliseum in nineteen fifty seven in front of one hundred
Speaker 1: two thousand, three hundred and sixty eight fans. But again,
Speaker 1: this was a Stadio Asteca, an eighth wonder of the World,
Speaker 1: A Stadio Azteca. Just mammoth. I mean, that's the first
Speaker 1: thing that I think when you walk in here, you know,
Speaker 1: you just cannot believe the rows go on and on.
Speaker 1: So come out of the locker room for the first
Speaker 1: time and I look up and my jaw hits the ground.
Speaker 1: I could not believe how big this building was. Basically,
Speaker 1: picture the biggest stadium you've ever been in, and then
Speaker 1: add an upper deck to it. When I looked up,
Speaker 1: I got dizzy it was so high. That's Jim omohundred,
Speaker 1: longtime producer of the Arizona Cardinals radio network, and true
Speaker 1: that personally. I've been in ann Arbor. I've been on
Speaker 1: the field for Michigan Notre Dame hundred thousand fans. But
Speaker 1: a stadio as Teca, it's bigger. Its capacity is one
Speaker 1: hundred twenty thousand plus, and as owner Michael Bidwill notes,
Speaker 1: that might be the more accurate attendance figure. They're suites.
Speaker 1: They didn't count the number of people that were up there,
Speaker 1: so when you buy a suite, they didn't sell tickets.
Speaker 1: It was just you can invite forty people up there
Speaker 1: if you want it. So they had no idea how
Speaker 1: many people were in those suites and the number. They
Speaker 1: believe that's a low estimate of who is actually in
Speaker 1: the stadium that day because they think there might have
Speaker 1: been another fifteen or twenty thousand people in the suite,
Speaker 1: so we're just not counting. What was interesting is that
Speaker 1: reports had tickets sold going into the weekend at around
Speaker 1: sixty five thousand, but there was a huge late surgeon
Speaker 1: interest and a massive walk up. So by the time
Speaker 1: we had game time, attendance was officially listed as a
Speaker 1: new NFL record. We have one hundred three thousand, four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven on hand, an NFL regular season record. Wow,
Speaker 1: how about that for a number. I wish everybody can
Speaker 1: feel what one hundred thousand people feel like on the field.
Speaker 1: Like you're on the field in one hundred thousand people
Speaker 1: are watching you. It's just different. Man. That's former Cardinals
Speaker 1: safety Robert Griffith. All the players knew the fans we're
Speaker 1: going to be a factor. El Grande, former Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: pass rusher bertran Berry. It really was a different energy
Speaker 1: where the fans were going nuts the entire time, whether
Speaker 1: something good happened for us or something bad happened for us.
Speaker 1: I just remember the crowd yelling no matter what, they
Speaker 1: just wanted to see us go out there and play.
Speaker 1: I just remember being allowed the entire game in a
Speaker 1: good way, that people were so excited that there was
Speaker 1: an NFL game going on. In a general sense, they
Speaker 1: were just rooting for something big to happen. Every play.
Speaker 1: It felt like a big party. It felt like a
Speaker 1: big party, the people that were just hungry to be
Speaker 1: a part of that first regular season game outside of
Speaker 1: the US, and that's where the game planning went beyond
Speaker 1: the field and into the stands. Who could capture the
Speaker 1: fans and that became a game of who could capture
Speaker 1: the flag? Going through my mind, I was just more
Speaker 1: who are the Mexican people going to cheer for? And
Speaker 1: the Cardinals needed that twelve man because remember they got
Speaker 1: down two touchdowns a two niner fumble returns early before
Speaker 1: they would stormed back and scored thirty one unanswered. But
Speaker 1: this was a win for the Cardinals that went way
Speaker 1: beyond the scoreboard or the standings, and we'll explain how
Speaker 1: and the why next as we roll on with our
Speaker 1: special Cardinals folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford in Gilbert and welcome back everyone
Speaker 1: into this very special edition of The Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford
Speaker 1: on Paul CALVC as we revisit our Cardinals Folktale series.
Speaker 1: We're talking all time anecdotes in Cardinals history and this
Speaker 1: was unlike any road trip in NFL history. First off,
Speaker 1: it was the first regular season game NFL game outside
Speaker 1: the United States ever, and second it was in front
Speaker 1: of an NFL record crowd of more than one hundred
Speaker 1: three thousand fans. We're talking about the Cardinals and Niners
Speaker 1: in Mexico City two thousand and five, and to hear
Speaker 1: the players tell it, that crowd factor was a deciding factor.
Speaker 1: And that's where we picked things up here with former
Speaker 1: Cardinals safety Robert Griffith on Cardinals folk Tales one time
Speaker 1: in Mexico again. Who would turn over one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: fans into their twelfth man? That was the question, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had an answer. Start the game by playing
Speaker 1: flag football, if you will. I had a dream that
Speaker 1: I had a flag and there was a flag. Then
Speaker 1: I kept seeing this Mexican flag in my dream. I
Speaker 1: just spoke to me, you know, I just felt like
Speaker 1: it was just something that just felt real to do,
Speaker 1: just felt appropriate. That's Robert's idea and it was brought
Speaker 1: to me and I searched out my contact at the
Speaker 1: stadiums to see if we can even get a flag.
Speaker 1: That's Anthony Edwards, former director of Player Programs, to do
Speaker 1: everything man for the Cardinals and a former Cardinals receiver.
Speaker 1: At this point, the teams were already into their pregame
Speaker 1: war months. The game hadn't started, but the clock was ticking.
Speaker 1: Robert's like, hey, we need to get a flag. We
Speaker 1: need a flag. I need to get the Mexico flag
Speaker 1: because I thought he when he first a flag, I'm like,
Speaker 1: U say no, no, no, no, Mexican flag, you know,
Speaker 1: And I said, hold on, let me see what I
Speaker 1: could do. So here I am russling to try to
Speaker 1: get my contact, say we can locate a flag somewhere
Speaker 1: close for him to run out with. So and it
Speaker 1: just happened we'd be able to get the flag. It
Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, let's just say the Cardinals clock management
Speaker 1: traveled that day internationally. Don't you love it when a
Speaker 1: plan comes together. When we were in that tunnel right
Speaker 1: before we went out to the game, and he unrolls
Speaker 1: this flag and it was on like a broomstick handle
Speaker 1: and literally gave it to me maybe ten seconds before
Speaker 1: I ran out. Once I knew Robert was going to
Speaker 1: grab that flag, we just kind of nodded heads, shook
Speaker 1: hands and said go go Bro, because there's gonna be big.
Speaker 1: What a great scene. Robert Griffith with the Mexican national
Speaker 1: flag waving it and racing out of the field. That
Speaker 1: was awesome. Robert bursting out of that tunnel with that flag.
Speaker 1: I think it just ignited the whole place up. It
Speaker 1: was a brandan move. To be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: think the fans saw this as the first impression of
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. All of a sudden, Robert Griffin, it
Speaker 1: comes right out of that hat waiving the Mexican flag.
Speaker 1: That really was a great torture of the crowd. Was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was loud. It was so loud at place was
Speaker 1: unbelievably loud. I go out with the flag and I
Speaker 1: just felt ten feet tall, man, Like, I felt like
Speaker 1: every step I was taking was just magnetized. Once he
Speaker 1: ran out, that was kind of like, you know what, Mexico,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are here, and for me, it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna work out tremendously because of the pride
Speaker 1: the fans in Mexico take once they see their their
Speaker 1: countries colors, right, and especially the flag. Quite honestly, after
Speaker 1: the flag, you know, I can honestly say they wanted
Speaker 1: us to win, maybe, but that's not the way The
Speaker 1: game started with the Niners defense scoring two quick touchdowns
Speaker 1: at turning too hands for ship running right baba the ball.
Speaker 1: So there's in the twenty and it's picked up by
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers Derrek Johnson running near sideboarding fifty
Speaker 1: bik taste by mccount Josh won't get him thirty twenty
Speaker 1: ten five touchdown San Francisco. If you do recall they
Speaker 1: jumped out on US fourteen to nothing before we ever
Speaker 1: took the field. It was they had two turnovers and scored.
Speaker 1: We were what's going on here? I mean, how did
Speaker 1: we get the fourteen to nothing? And that's where the
Speaker 1: Cards started their comeback, led by second year receiver Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald doing signature Larry things. Right before the half third
Speaker 1: and one of the seventeen the count back to throw
Speaker 1: Agin a lot into the end zone far side. Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: goes up to do for Larry Fitzgerald for the second
Speaker 1: of the year day fashion, injecting a little local flavor
Speaker 1: into the call. Fourteen twelve nineers of the half, but
Speaker 1: second half toto rojo all read as the tide turned
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard and in the stands, I felt like
Speaker 1: as we started to take control of the game. We
Speaker 1: won the crowd over eventually, and eventually the Cardinals won
Speaker 1: the game. In fact, it wasn't that close, as the
Speaker 1: Niners never scored again, the Cardinals defense pitching a shutout,
Speaker 1: feeding off one hundred thousand plus fans. As we reported
Speaker 1: from the sideline, you know a lot of people in
Speaker 1: a lot of talk that the Cardinals gave up home
Speaker 1: field advantage to come down here to Mexico City. But
Speaker 1: the fans on this end of the stadium as loud
Speaker 1: as we have heard them. The fans also love cardskicker
Speaker 1: Neil Rackers first, because Mexico is a soccer crazy nation
Speaker 1: and they love anyone. It puts the foot into football Americano.
Speaker 1: Forty three yard attempt for Neil Rackers, who's four for
Speaker 1: four tonight. The snap the spot, Rackers kick is up.
Speaker 1: It's got the leg and it is good. Neil's all
Speaker 1: fired up right now. The camera went down onto him
Speaker 1: and it looked like you said, oh yeah, I'm the game.
Speaker 1: Rackers had a career high six field goals. Now that's
Speaker 1: the season where remember Rackers hit forty two fuel goals
Speaker 1: in an All Pro campaign. The is Rackers might have
Speaker 1: traded all that brish shot at a seventy yard fuel goal,
Speaker 1: which he wanted and definitely thought was doable in Mexico City,
Speaker 1: where the ball flies, because remember it's two thousand feet
Speaker 1: higher than Denver, over seventy seven hundred feet in elevation.
Speaker 1: These guys are gassed on the Cardinal sideline. It's so
Speaker 1: bad that the mascot Big Red, who by the way,
Speaker 1: is going with the nickname on his back tonight Rojo. Okay,
Speaker 1: he came up to me at halftime and said he
Speaker 1: was wiped out physically from the elevation. Okay, it's hitting
Speaker 1: everybody out here. Final score thirty one fourteen as the
Speaker 1: Cardinals savored the win and soaked in the scene. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals win in the first ever NFL regular season game
Speaker 1: in Mexico City, beating with San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: But before the Cardinals would leave the field, the players
Speaker 1: would wave goodbye some by waving the flag, this time
Speaker 1: in the hands of Bertrand Berry and Rolando Canto. Somebody
Speaker 1: on a sideline had it and being one in the
Speaker 1: captain at the time, in knowing that we were going
Speaker 1: to win the game, you get afforded some liberties, and
Speaker 1: so they gave me the freedom to go and take
Speaker 1: the flag. And I know a Griff at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the game had ran out with it, and so
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to have my crack at it.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to run out, but Griff beat
Speaker 1: me to it. B Train gives me the flag and
Speaker 1: I take it over and then I have to do
Speaker 1: a bunch of media interviews right after the game on
Speaker 1: the sideline, which was very really cool, and so I
Speaker 1: have the flag on my shoulder right and obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: in between interviews, I would waive the flag like Robert,
Speaker 1: like B Train, and they got the same reaction, right,
Speaker 1: So it was it was a special moment. I think
Speaker 1: I will always remember that. On the far side, Bertrand
Speaker 1: Berry has handed off the Mexican flag and Robando Kent too,
Speaker 1: a native of Monterey, Mexico. I think that day everybody
Speaker 1: felt a part of the Ariazon, the Cardinals because of
Speaker 1: the flag. By the way, to this day, no one
Speaker 1: knows where the flag went. It was in the Cardinals
Speaker 1: locker room and vanished, never seen again. So although the
Speaker 1: Cardinals didn't bring back the flag, they definitely brought back
Speaker 1: a buzz. It was palpable around town and in the
Speaker 1: locker room. What were your thoughts on playing in Mexico?
Speaker 1: It was great. It's the greatest parents to get outside
Speaker 1: the world and this world. You know how we do this?
Speaker 1: Dude said, he played outside the world. Outside of the
Speaker 1: world is big. D See, it was a big buzz, right,
Speaker 1: But that was then an quon Bolden with Robert Tad
Speaker 1: and his weekly TV segment coming off Mexico City. This
Speaker 1: is now Robert Griffin to this day on how he
Speaker 1: brought home much more than just a victory. This has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with football. This is the way the
Speaker 1: Mexican fans made me feel. And I never had an
Speaker 1: experience like that in my life. And I like when
Speaker 1: I say they were screaming at me and I felt
Speaker 1: like I can levitate off the ground. I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just Cardinals players who had their passport stamp.
Speaker 1: You could say that for the entire NFL to know
Speaker 1: that the sport took a big step forward outside of
Speaker 1: the US and we were part of that. I take
Speaker 1: great pride in that I love this game. I love
Speaker 1: what the game did for me. I love the competition
Speaker 1: aspect of it. I love the brutality of it. I
Speaker 1: love everything about football. And to be able to grow
Speaker 1: the sport in that way, to take it somewhere, even
Speaker 1: though they had had preseason games there before, but to
Speaker 1: have one that actually counted and got the attention that
Speaker 1: it got, I was very proud of it. And Josh
Speaker 1: mccount takes the football and runs off with it and
Speaker 1: he gives it to Michael Fidwell over on the far side,
Speaker 1: and that's a very classy move by Josh McCown. We
Speaker 1: try to be trailblazers and we want to be at
Speaker 1: the front of you know, what can we be doing
Speaker 1: that will not only set us apart, but we think
Speaker 1: is really good for the game and good for fans,
Speaker 1: and fans would be interested in And sure enough, the
Speaker 1: first NFL regular season game played outside the United Stage,
Speaker 1: which set a record for the largest crowd ever to
Speaker 1: attend an NFL regular season game, was an international venture
Speaker 1: that has now turned into an annual affair. Were cemented
Speaker 1: in history an American football history in Mexico because of
Speaker 1: that game, and that's one time in Mexico for producer
Speaker 1: Jim Almahndro I'm Paul CALVC. We hope you enjoyed this
Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Folk Tales presented by seventy two Soul.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I cannot wait for the
Speaker 1: encore this year. It's gonna be Week eleven. That's right
Speaker 1: in your Cardinal schedule November twenty first card and Niners
Speaker 1: in Mexico City in prime time and Estadio as Tacca
Speaker 1: and it will be a key NFC West game as well.
Speaker 1: Special thanks to producer Jim Almhandro Lauren Coble. I'm Paul KELBC.
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