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Speaker 1: Now it seems like Sean McVay might have plucked the

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Speaker 1: top guy in the NFL because obviously he was a

436
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Speaker 1: free agent when Vrabel got canned.

437
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Speaker 2: But to me, this this.

438
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Speaker 1: Individual, or grooming this individual, seems like a must have.

439
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: And if these offensive play callers are not going to

440
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: listen to this guy, they're at a disadvantage. Every single week. Okay,

441
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Speaker 1: the top twenty five in the AP came out today,

442
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Speaker 1: and you know, typical cast of characters. Georgia, Bama, Texas, Oregon,

443
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Speaker 1: no particular order, Ohio State and I had a couple

444
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Speaker 1: of big takeaways from it, not because I put that

445
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Speaker 1: much emphasis Until we see these teams play four or

446
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Speaker 1: five games. Georgia might be the best team. They might

447
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Speaker 1: be the third team. Ohio State could be the sixth team,

448
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: they could be the second team. You know, you get Oregon.

449
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Speaker 1: They're all within the top six or seven. We'll see

450
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Speaker 1: how they look after a month of games. I do

451
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Speaker 1: think they're some tangible pressure though on certain teams to

452
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Speaker 1: do certain things, and I think at the highest level

453
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on Ohio State. They have

454
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Speaker 1: the highest same with Oregon. Now, the difference is Ohio

455
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Speaker 1: State and Ryan Day. They've been in the playoffs recently.

456
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Speaker 1: He's had success. Hell, he's been in a national championship game.

457
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Speaker 2: He's had a lot of success.

458
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Speaker 1: But anytime you're at that school and you've been getting

459
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Speaker 1: your ass kicked by Jim Harbaugh, then you double down

460
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Speaker 1: on the nil. You land all these sweet dudes in

461
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal, you hire your boy Chip Kelly to

462
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Speaker 1: run the offense. I'm not saying they have to win

463
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Speaker 1: the national championship.

464
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Speaker 2: That's clearly very very difficult to do.

465
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Speaker 1: But you could argue the final four might not even

466
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Speaker 1: be good enough for the fan base. Obviously, if you

467
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Speaker 1: get to the National Championship and lose it, that's things

468
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: that hurts, that sucks, but you get contract extensions doing that.

469
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Speaker 1: And I think there is a ton of pressure on

470
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Speaker 1: Ohio State to kick ass.

471
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Speaker 2: And take names.

472
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Speaker 1: Now when Dan Lanning kind of similar roster stacked, spending

473
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Speaker 1: a ton on nil. To me, his margin frere's a

474
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Speaker 1: little smaller than Ohio State, or I guess larger that Like,

475
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Speaker 1: if he didn't make the National Championship game, I don't

476
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Speaker 1: think it's the end of the world. I kind of

477
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Speaker 1: think Oregon's got to make the final four. You know,

478
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Speaker 1: all the hype, They've been really close. We talk about

479
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: him like this championship level squad last time I checked,

480
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: haven't even won the conference the last couple of years

481
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Speaker 1: because they couldn't beat Washington. Now, obviously de Bor's gone,

482
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Speaker 1: who's kind of owned Landing Pennix has gone, So you

483
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Speaker 1: should own that game. You play Ohio State this year,

484
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Speaker 1: but most of the big ten teams you should be

485
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Speaker 1: able to handle. I think Ohio State, if they ain't

486
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Speaker 1: in the championship game, it's gonna feel like a disaster.

487
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Speaker 1: And to me, Oregon's got to be in the final four.

488
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Speaker 1: Now that's the best of the best. I think there

489
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Speaker 1: are two teams when it comes to making the playoffs.

490
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's make the playoffs. Are

491
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Speaker 1: fired because this guy's won national championship. He's one of

492
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Speaker 1: the most famous coaches. He has changed this program to

493
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Speaker 1: a higher level for forever. But Dablosweeney makes more money

494
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: than every coach in college football except Kirby Smart, and

495
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Speaker 1: he's earned it, like he's.

496
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Speaker 2: Made that program.

497
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Speaker 1: A ton of the NFL is littered with his players.

498
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Speaker 1: He's had a boatload of success, but these last couple

499
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Speaker 1: of years haven't gone that well. And one thing with

500
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Speaker 1: Dablosweeney is I don't mess with the transfer portal, which

501
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of feels like coach k in the early two thousands.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't do one and dounce feels if you want

503
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Speaker 1: to be successful in this sport currently, you got to

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: change your tune because it's not sustainable. You don't need

505
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: to take ten guys in the transfer portal. But because

506
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Speaker 1: of your program, and because of how many guys you

507
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Speaker 1: put in the NFL, you should be debt IF Ohio State,

508
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Speaker 1: if Bama, IF LSU, IF Georgia, if they dabble a

509
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Speaker 1: player here, player there, Florida State, a team in your

510
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Speaker 1: own conference, who, if it wasn't for devastating quarterback injuries,

511
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Speaker 1: would have been in the playoffs last year when it

512
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: was only four teams. Why transfer Portal Jared Verse first

513
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Speaker 1: round pick, transfer Portal, Keon Coleman first round pick. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: first round pick, transfer Portal. Or maybe he was the

515
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Speaker 1: first pick of the second round. But like the second

516
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Speaker 1: round defensive tackle who is up, the Rams also took

517
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Speaker 1: transfer Portal like it kind of matters. It kind of matters,

518
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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of pressure on him.

519
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: One listen, you make the playoffs, even if you lose

520
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: in the first round, it'll have everyone take a deep breath.

521
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: You get started getting paid eleven twelve million dollars, the

522
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: expectations for your program, like last year just wasn't good enough.

523
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's hard for me to feel

524
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: great about him now. They've always recruited well. They clearly

525
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: just depend only on high school kids and developing well.

526
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: They have no problem on doing that. And I think

527
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback who got a lot of hype and it

528
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Speaker 1: was easy a couple of years to go to see.

529
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Speaker 2: Like bench DJ.

530
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Clint and then he watched them last year is very

531
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Speaker 1: hit or miss. So I think there's just a lot

532
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: of pressure on Clemson to just be a top twelve

533
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Speaker 1: team when the dust settles, And same thing for Penn State.

534
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Speaker 1: You could argue there's a very short list of coaches

535
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Speaker 1: who recruit better than James Franklin. The roster he currently

536
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: has probably has three or four guys that are gonna

537
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Speaker 1: get drafted in the first round. Last year, all we

538
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: heard is like they got Josh Allen two point zero,

539
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: and then you watched him play, You're like, yeah, this

540
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: is like Josh Allen at Wyoming, not Josh Allen on

541
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Speaker 1: the Bills. So they fire their offensive coordinator, they hire

542
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: the dude from Kansas. Defensively, they are always loaded, and

543
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: he's just a polarizing individual because he gets you nine wins,

544
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: can't beat Ohio State, can't beat Michigan. Doesn't feel like

545
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: they're really close in terms.

546
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Speaker 2: Of the top dogs.

547
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: They take care of basically everyone else they play, but

548
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Speaker 1: I think there's tangible pressure on them to make the

549
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: playoffs this year. And unlike Dabbo, it's not like he

550
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: has anything on his resume I've won Naddies. I've won Naddies.

551
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: This guy hasn't won Natties, hasn't even won the Big Ten.

552
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's got to win the Big Ten.

553
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Speaker 2: He shouldn't.

554
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Speaker 1: Ohio State's better, but if they can't get to ten

555
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and two in being the top twelve, I think that's

556
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: a failure for a program who there can't be ten

557
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Speaker 1: teams with better rosters in the NFL.

558
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Speaker 2: I saw Hugh.

559
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Speaker 1: Freeze was interviewing with Marty Smith and McGee, Smith and McGee,

560
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, listen, it sucked losing that game to

561
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Speaker 1: Alabama last year when Jalen Milroe on third I think

562
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: it was third and twenty nine or third and thirty

563
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: one hit that bomb in the back of the end zone.

564
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Speaker 1: He's like, it was awful.

565
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Speaker 2: It doesn't get any worse.

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Speaker 1: On the bright side, though, we had a team who

567
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: didn't even come close to having their talent and we

568
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Speaker 1: went toe to toe with them. And that's the thing

569
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Speaker 1: with Penn State, Like you're out talenting basically everyone probably

570
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: on your schedule this year except Ohio State. Like you

571
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: should be better than Michigan. They just lost eighteen dudes

572
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and Jim Harbaugh. So I'm fascinated to

573
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: watch Penn State. I enjoy watching their defense play.

574
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Speaker 2: Who doesn't.

575
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Speaker 1: But their offense has been futrid for a while now,

576
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Speaker 1: and it's on James Franklin, who.

577
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Speaker 4: Is an offensive guy kind of at his core, at

578
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Speaker 4: his heart, he was a former coach, wide receiver coach,

579
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Speaker 4: and like, clearly he can't fix that because recruiting is

580
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: what he does and what he does best, and you

581
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Speaker 4: gotta question everything else.

582
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Speaker 2: So I listen.

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Speaker 1: My national championship pick right now as we sit here,

584
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Speaker 1: would probably be some combination of Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon.

585
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: But things could get chaotic in the playoffs, right you

586
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: get twelve teams, I'm sure. If not, we're gonna have

587
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: a crazy upset. I would say in the next two years.

588
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Speaker 1: Does it happen this year?

589
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: Who knows?

590
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Like Ole Miss is a good example, everyone's picking them

591
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Let's say they don't. Let's say

592
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: they go nine to three and don't. He's won double

593
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: diggy games the last two years for the first time

594
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: in program history. It is difficult to win there. He

595
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: should not be winning more than LSU, more than I

596
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: don't care that Saban's gone do.

597
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Boor in Alabama more than Georgia. He shouldn't.

598
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: So if somehow he doesn't make it and some other

599
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: SEC team sneaks in, like I don't think it's the

600
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: end of the world. But when you're paying Dabbo eleven

601
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars, when all we ever hear

602
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: is how great Penn State's roster is. You can't not

603
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs and not have it and play in

604
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: the uh you know, the three and out Sandal Bull

605
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: and think anyone's gonna care.

606
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Speaker 2: Okay, last but not least quick take Tuesday.

607
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Here the reaction to Steph Curry, and it's like, oh,

608
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. It's like, guys, he's been doing

609
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: this since Davidson. This has been going on now these

610
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: moments two thousand and eight, and two thousand and seven

611
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: and two thousand and nine, whatever, the year that he

612
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: took the Davidson on the run. That was his sophomore year. Remember,

613
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: he came back for his junior year and the team

614
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: wasn't as good. But we first really learned about him

615
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament. I mean, you're talking sixteen seventeen.

616
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Plus years ago.

617
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: We saw that, and then for a decade straight, this

618
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: guy's winning MVP's lead teams to titles. Kevin Durant literally

619
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: had to join him or he would have zero championships.

620
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: They've taken a lot of shit, but let's face it,

621
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: as Bob Meyers once told Kevin Durant, you need us, We.

622
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: Don't need you.

623
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Speaker 1: We will win more without you. Can't say you will

624
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: win without us. Turned out to be true. Like John

625
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: they needed Kevin Durant too. Obviously he helped. But we

626
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: saw two years ago, you know, when Steph Curry led

627
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: the Warriors to another title. He just had one of

628
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: the greatest athletic careers.

629
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Speaker 2: Because let's face that.

630
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Warriors are going to be

631
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: good again in the rest of his career. I don't

632
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: know if it matters, because I think that was the

633
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: cherry on top of one of the greatest careers I've

634
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: ever seen. And I think with him, the best part

635
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: about kind of his generation before college played a part

636
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: in your career because what he did in college kind

637
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: of put him on the map. Goes back to like

638
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson and Larry Bird playing in the National championship

639
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: in college Michael Jordan hitting the game winning shot in

640
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: college in Steph's college career. To me as part of

641
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: his resume, he took this little fucking team that, let's

642
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: face it, most people would know nothing about and let

643
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: him to the lead eight knock it off Kansas. So

644
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Steph curry that moment. He hit seventeen to three pointers

645
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: in the semi final game. In the final game, he

646
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: scored sixty points in the last two games. If he's

647
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: a little off, they not only don't win gold, they

648
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: might not even make it to the championship game. They

649
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: needed all of his thirty six points to beat Serbia jokichestein,

650
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: which is one of the best games I've ever seen.

651
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: I assumed they were gonna kill France. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go play golf with a

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Speaker 1: couple buddies and we put on you know, YouTube TV

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Speaker 1: on our phone. I'm like, whole four, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're up ten. I'm like, oh, they're gonna end up

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Speaker 1: blowing them out. And then the game kind of kept close,

657
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Speaker 1: kept close, and by the time we got to the turn,

658
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Speaker 1: it was really backed up. So we went to the

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Speaker 1: bar at the turn and watched like the last six minutes,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's like, that's what Steph Curry has

661
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Speaker 1: done for the Warriors. It's what he did for Davidson.

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Speaker 1: That is Steph Curry, who in this generation.

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Speaker 2: There are really two guys in the sport.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the NBA just got a ton of money from

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Speaker 1: the television networks, but they don't really rate relative to

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Speaker 1: what they used to do. There are two guys. When

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Speaker 1: you put him on TV, get huge ratings, and when

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Speaker 1: they play each other, it does the highest rated game

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Speaker 1: in the NBA beside like the finals, which is down

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Speaker 1: by half from like six seven years ago when Lebron

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Speaker 1: and Curry used to play. And it's those two guys,

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Speaker 1: and Lebron obviously everyone's like, oh, he's great, he's great,

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Speaker 1: we get it. He's one of the greatest athletes we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. He's still awesome. But like he's played like

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Speaker 1: that the whole tournament. Curry was down early and if

676
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Speaker 1: he did not play like he did, we don't win.

677
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Speaker 1: We needed all of his sixty points. And the way

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Speaker 1: he did it, the fashion which he did it, making

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Speaker 1: fun of the French crowd, it was just it was vintage,

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Speaker 1: and whether they ever make the playoffs again with the Warriors,

681
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Speaker 1: because who knows?

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Speaker 2: To me?

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Speaker 1: That's a Cherry on top of his career. And twenty

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Speaker 1: million people watch the game on Saturday. I can imagine

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Speaker 1: a ton of people watch the game on Thursday. It's

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Speaker 1: it was fantastic to watch all those guys play.

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: That in a league and a sport full of young

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Speaker 1: star players.

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: All over here, NBA's never been better. There's more talent.

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Speaker 1: The two best players by a pretty wide margin. Really,

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Speaker 1: the three of them were all thirty five years and older.

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Speaker 1: And the two guys leading him down the stretch in

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Speaker 1: the gold medal game was a foty year old and

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Speaker 1: the thirty six thirty seven year old in Lebron and Steph.

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Speaker 1: So I just it didn't get any better. That was

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Speaker 1: And the best part about Steph. Tiger was always like

698
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Speaker 1: this when he was playing well, it is like this

699
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Speaker 1: is just so entertaining. I can't move off. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to watch anything. I can't imagine watching anything else,

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Speaker 1: and a lot like Tiger little different circumstances the Masters

702
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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, Cherry on the top of his career,

703
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Speaker 1: and that's what it felt like with Steph Curry when

704
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Speaker 1: he hit those shots. You know, he hit four to

705
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Speaker 1: three pointers in the last couple minutes and just executed

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Speaker 1: the French national team. Okay, Mail back time at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff Instagram at John Middlecoff Instagram firing those dms. Get

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Speaker 1: your question answered here on the show. Mail back question

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Speaker 1: love the pod as a lifelong.

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Speaker 2: Birds fan, me and the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Two part question relating to the ESPN article on Jalen

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Speaker 1: and Nick's relationship and knowing to say it nicely, You

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Speaker 1: don't love Nick, No, nothing personal.

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Speaker 2: This is just business.

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Speaker 1: I'm just judging him as a football coach, and everyone

716
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Speaker 1: questions his football documen, so it's I have to question

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Speaker 1: this football documen that he doesn't call the offense, can't

718
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Speaker 1: call the offense. I think it's fair. We just ask questions,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. It seems like a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I'd have some beers with him. Do you think Jalen

721
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Speaker 1: has earned the right to question Nick's x's nose. He

722
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Speaker 1: got benched at Bama and had a great season under Shane,

723
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Speaker 1: but it's not like he's Tom Brady. I love Jalen

724
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Speaker 1: but that line surprised me given his background. Two, I

725
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: hate the Cowboys so much. I like watching the Cowboys

726
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: lose more than I like watching the Eagles win. Can

727
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Speaker 1: you feel that cowboy hate working the building? When I

728
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Speaker 1: was with the Eagles, the Giants were better when I

729
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Speaker 1: got there in twenty ten. You know, the Giants had

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl a couple of years before than

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Speaker 1: they wanted a year later. So the Cowboys teams, I

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Speaker 1: think Wade Phillips was a coach when I first got there,

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Speaker 1: that maybe Garrett took over year two. They just weren't

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Speaker 1: as good. So it's probably different than it would feel

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Speaker 1: right now that the Cowboys and the Eagles have been

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Speaker 1: kind of fighting out for the division. I would say

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Speaker 1: the Giants felt more like the big bad wolf in

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Speaker 1: the division, and the hatred that rivalry was stronger than

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Obviously, it's a huge game because the team,

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Speaker 1: the brand, the rivalry, But I felt the Giants were

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Speaker 1: a bigger deal, and it has to do with how

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Speaker 1: the teams were playing. I do think when you look

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Speaker 1: at Jalen was benched for a guy that went fifth

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Now we can argue about Tua, but

745
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Toole was a better college player and they benched him.

746
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Speaker 1: Jalen had a transfer. One guy goes in the second round,

747
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Speaker 1: the other guy went five. So that's just pretty basic football.

748
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Speaker 1: You just play guys who are better at the time.

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Speaker 1: Two Jalen played in Colin and I talked.

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Speaker 2: About this.

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Speaker 1: For Nick Saban. I'm pretty sure day Ball was there

752
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Speaker 1: one of the years. Maybe he missed him, but Lane Sark,

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, so like he's been around pretty awesome offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators in offensive mines and then Shane. So I think

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Speaker 1: there's one thing of questioning. If you want to push

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Speaker 1: back on Jalen, Like, Jalen, we don't want you to

757
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Speaker 1: be a pure pocket quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You're not Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: You're paidon manning. That's completely fair. But like, I think

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Speaker 1: he kind of knows what it looks like in terms

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Speaker 1: of being coached from a schematic standpoint of guys who

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Speaker 1: were pretty brilliant. So I think questioning. I think whenever

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Speaker 1: you question someone, if you're right, like even if your

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Speaker 1: resume might not be as long as them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are people probably all over America who have been

766
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Speaker 1: working middle management jobs or management jobs who aren't very

767
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Speaker 1: good and people under them think that guy is a

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Speaker 1: complete slap, complete unknowing, unknowledgeable. Fraud like that happens.

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Speaker 2: All over corporate America.

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Speaker 1: It happens in football too, And obviously Nick has qualities

771
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Speaker 1: the leadership that people like. I guess players like them.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's crazy that Jalen questions his

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Speaker 1: football knowledge, even if on some of it he might

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Speaker 1: be right, assuming he's arguing like we need you to

775
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: scramble more than play in the pocket. Love the podcast.

776
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Speaker 1: I came across the two years ago, and since then

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Speaker 1: I've listened to every show. I even went back last

778
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Speaker 1: summer and listened to all your old shows.

779
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Speaker 2: God, I like this guy.

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Speaker 1: Even the one where you had Howie Roseman on The

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Speaker 1: Rosenberg Show was probably my favorite episode you've ever done.

782
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Howie Roseman guy, an Eagles fan. My

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Speaker 1: question is, if you were an NFL owner and you

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Speaker 1: could start a franchise with any NFL GM.

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Speaker 2: Who would you choose. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: What I would do is I have a specific individual,

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Speaker 1: probably for the Chiefs, who I would hire. Obviously it's

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Speaker 1: not Veach because I can't, but there's a guy in

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Speaker 1: that staff that I would hire. Now, what I would

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Speaker 1: do is I would hire a guy like I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I was an NFL GM and you had any

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Speaker 1: juice in the hiring, you would go, here is the

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Speaker 1: budget I need for these two positions, because these are

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Speaker 1: really really important. I guess if you could start an

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Speaker 1: NFL franchise. So okay, so let's just assume I'm the owner.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly who i'd hire to be my GM,

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Speaker 1: But I would pay a premium for a guy like

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Speaker 1: Jake to run my CAP in the business aspect, and

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Speaker 1: he would obviously work hand in hand with my GM

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Speaker 1: in the sense because the money aspect of the team.

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Speaker 2: Is such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: But I would lean like on a brilliant, brilliant scout

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Speaker 1: buddy that I know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a couple.

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Speaker 1: I'd feel pretty comfortable hiring. And I understand what Jake's saying,

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Speaker 1: and I value that position a lot, so I would

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Speaker 1: I would try to bridge the two. I am obviously

808
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Speaker 1: biased because I know people that have been on Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl teams, and I would just everything they've ever steered

810
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Speaker 1: me when it comes to picking players is just right.

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Speaker 2: Now, obviously he's.

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Speaker 1: Right about you know you are not taught how to

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Speaker 1: manage a two hundred and fifty million dollar But I

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Speaker 1: mean some of these guys have been pretty high level

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Speaker 1: guys for a long time. Listen, I've heard great things

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Speaker 1: about Joe Douglas, and you look, it looks like he's

817
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Speaker 1: over his head. I mean, he went all in on

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson this reddick situation. And I know a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys that worked for him in Philly and love

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Speaker 1: the guy. But it's kind of embarrassing what's happened to

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Speaker 1: him in New York, no way around it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is a very well respected guy in the league,

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Speaker 1: bald guy, chubby guy. I root for him just because

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Speaker 1: us bald guys, you know, we kind of stick together

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Speaker 1: even when we don't know each other. But it's kind

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Speaker 1: of embarrassing what's going down. As a Chiefs fan, I

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Speaker 1: think our division will be tougher this year. Looking at

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Speaker 1: the other teams, I still think they are a year

829
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Speaker 1: or two out of being playoff contenders. Both Colin and

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Speaker 1: You have been on a record saying you see the

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Speaker 1: Chargers in Broncos making the playoffs or Broncos making the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't see three AFC West teams making it. I

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00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: would agree three AFC West teams are not gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw away my Chargers take, but their

835
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: margin freer with a couple players is really small. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they got three guys that they need to be elite,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback who's injured, Khalil Mack, and Joey Bosa. Joey

838
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: Bosa is currently injured and Khalil gets banged up, so

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Speaker 1: it could be tough sledding. Now, even if it's tough sledding,

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Speaker 1: it will not look like Brandon Staley, and they will

841
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Speaker 1: be as competitive as any eight win team you'll see

842
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Speaker 1: in the league, but it could be challenging. I wanted

843
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Speaker 1: the Broncos a little better than we think. What if

844
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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks just plug and play ready, Obviously he's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: You'd have some bad games. But is it inconceivable to think,

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Speaker 1: like they got some big ass wide receivers. You don't

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Speaker 1: need Walter Payton on your team at running back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. You can piecemeal that thing together with

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Speaker 1: three they got offensive lineman. I'm not the biggest McGlinchey guy.

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Speaker 1: For fifty million dollars guaranteed but he sure started on

851
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot of winning teams in San Francisco. Defense is

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00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of a question mark. But what if

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00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: offensively the Broncos actually are pretty good. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I pick it to make the playoffs, like both

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00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: those teams could be pretty similar. Eight to nine wins,

856
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: but problems for the mailbag. Love the podcast, corats to

857
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Speaker 1: you and Maria. I've been thinking about a crazy hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: What if there was a pre playoff draft where ringless

859
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: veteran players on non playoff teams could declare and each

860
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: team could draft one player from the other conference. The

861
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: players could join for the playoff run before returning to

862
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: their original teams the next season, similar to loans in

863
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: international soccer. For playoff teams, it might help them out

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Speaker 1: if in an event of a late season injury players

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Speaker 1: could benefit too. We might get less guys like Calvin

866
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Speaker 1: Johnson or Joe Thomas retiring without a ring thoughts. I

867
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: like this idea, and if the owners would ever allow it,

868
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: my vote would be cool. But the reason they would never.

869
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Allow it is.

870
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Because if I own the Lions and I got Calvin

871
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: Johnson and you know he's been retired now for a

872
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: while and the money's changed. But let's just say the

873
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: equivalent of twenty twenty four. I'm on an awful team,

874
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: but I have this sweet player. I am paying him,

875
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson be a thirty million dollar wide receiver. I'm

876
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: paying him almost two million dollars a week for seventeen weeks,

877
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and I've given him one hundred million dollars guaranteed. What

878
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: if he shatters his leg in the second round of

879
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs for the Chiefs or for the Ravens or

880
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: for the Bengals, what happens to me? Then he just

881
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: comes back to me and it's not my problem. So

882
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: there would be no risk on the playoff side, right

883
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: if you're one of the good teams drafting these players

884
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: in all the financial risks for the other team, so

885
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: that guy plays more games gets injured. Does that still

886
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: go in my books? What if he shatters his leg,

887
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: can never play again, and I just signed him to

888
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: a huge contract, essentially saying that's why it would never happen, though,

889
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: like your idea, Like you're thinking outside the box, Jacks

890
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: fan here, and I'm wondering what the hell Doug's fascination

891
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: is with Press Taylor if you recall Doug wanting to

892
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: promote Press to OC and Philly is part of the

893
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: reason he was fired. I don't think it was wanting

894
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: to promote him. I think he kind of did, and

895
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: he didn't want to fire him, if I remember correctly,

896
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: it's been a while now. Once Doug got the job

897
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, he hired Press as the OC, but he

898
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't call plays when they had success and one of

899
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: the best offenses football while having a fairly average personnow group.

900
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: The next season, roughly two hours before the Jags played

901
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: their Week one game against the Colts, Jags pr announced

902
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: that Press would now be calling plays for the offense.

903
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: The switch didn't really work, as the offense went from

904
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: top ten in most categories to middle the pack in

905
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: passing at the very bottom in rushing. Shodkhan, the owner,

906
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: has publicly stated multiple times that he wants Doug to

907
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: call the offense. Reports are that Trevor has said the

908
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: same thing. Why is Doug willing to gamble his head

909
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: coaching career on this guy?

910
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: At any point in.

911
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: Time in your life, you need someone who is above

912
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: you to believe in you, even like Jeff Bezos or

913
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Sergey and his partner at Google needed someone with money

914
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: to buy into what they were doing.

915
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Right.

916
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: As a player, you need to co coach early on

917
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: to believe in you. As an assistant coach, you need

918
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: a head coach to believe in you. And for whatever reason,

919
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Doug loves this guy. I mean Doug views this guy

920
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: like Mike Holmgren in the mid nineties at the Packers

921
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: viewed Mary Ucci, Gruden and Andy. He thinks this guy

922
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: is a star. And let's face it, when you believe

923
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: in a human and I would say a lot of

924
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: us at different points in time in our life will

925
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: either be in a position or have been in a.

926
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: Position where you just believe in a guy. You're like,

927
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: I believe in this guy.

928
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: I think this guy is gonna be really good at

929
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: whatever he's doing and in public jobs, like he's gonna

930
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: be a quote unquote star coaching star. You know, some

931
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: great artists if you're in the music business, could just

932
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: be in sales like you got this young intern, like

933
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: we need this guy can make us a lot of money.

934
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: We need to double down on this guy. Sometimes you're

935
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: wrong for whatever. It doesn't mean like you just miss something.

936
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just like the individual. That's the hard part

937
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: about business. Right, you can really like someone, your values

938
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: can align. Maybe you see politically the world the same,

939
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: maybe your morals are the same, maybe the way you

940
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: view family is the same. So you're like, I have

941
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: sole like I really we connect, but that person is

942
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: not good enough. And I think sometimes the personal connection

943
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: can cloud what you believe or know of that guy's

944
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: tangible talent at whatever he's doing. And I'm with you.

945
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: I also think it's an easy fix. If I'm Shodkhan,

946
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: I go listen, Doug. I'm not gonna meddle here in general,

947
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: like I let you and Trent do whatever you need

948
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: to do. Sign whoever you want to sign this guy.

949
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: I'll give you the money you want to trade this guy.

950
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: You want to hire this coach, But I hired you

951
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: because years ago I watched you out do a Belichick

952
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: in the fucking Super Bowl with Nick Foles. I want

953
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: you to call the plays. I don't think that's a

954
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: crazy ask.

955
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: You became.

956
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: The most famous coach in Eagles history because you let

957
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: them do a Super Bowl. You won a super Bowl

958
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: before even Andy Reid won a Super Bowl. I need

959
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: to call plays, and I don't think that's too crazy.

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: If you're shot cone to demand that, like, I don't

961
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: even think it's demanding.

962
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: I think you just do it. I like Doug and

963
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't know Press Taylor at all.

964
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: I clearly I think he's People think he's a nice guy,

965
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: good guy. I think it's fair to question him as

966
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: a coach. How many games of Deshaun Watson. Watson's struggling

967
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: until Cleveland brook Park. I guess that's where their new

968
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: stadium is going to be. Consider sitting him down. This

969
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: roster is complete and ready to compete. Honestly, the only

970
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: question mark is on him. I believe he will struggle,

971
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: but the money he's being paid, can they actually bench him?

972
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: Have you heard any rumors about Washington name change? Obviously

973
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: not going back to the old name, but Commanders just

974
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. I personally liked Washington football team. Totally agree.

975
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: I never understood why they changed Washington football team.

976
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: It just worked.

977
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: I think the Watson things hard and this, like the

978
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: previous question with Doug, is this an owner decision? But hey, guys,

979
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: I did this. I want this and I want to

980
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: make it work. The thing if you're the coach and

981
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: ultimately want to go with a change if he's really terrible, Like,

982
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: you have a lot of body of work. Now you've

983
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: had a lot. I guess he's only started twelve games.

984
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: He's been on your team for a while, and I.

985
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: Read today he's fully cleared, He's completely healthy. There is

986
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on this guy to play well.

987
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: If I told you right now Josh Allen was the

988
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: Browns quarterback, is it safe to say they would be

989
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: the betting favorite to win.

990
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl?

991
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if they had a top five quarterback on

992
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: their team, I think they would be the betting favorite

993
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl. But they have a guy

994
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: who's been objectively awful.

995
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: John there you've been to.

996
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: No, he's had one good half I think it was

997
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. Other than that, he was really bad.

998
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: And then this offseason, what did they decide to do?

999
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: They found someone with Flaco, worked with the scheme, worked

1000
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: with their players, fantastic backup, cost less than five million dollars.

1001
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: They didn't resign them. Why, because they're not dumb.

1002
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: What's the first thing the fan base would do? If

1003
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: he throws three picks against the Cowboys Week one, you

1004
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: lose twenty four to seventeen. Put in Flacco. We want

1005
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Can't do that with Jameis Winston

1006
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: because we've seen Jameis. I mean, he's not as good

1007
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: as Joe Flacco. So I think the team, the front

1008
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: office slashed, the owner made a conscious effort to basically

1009
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: clear out the decks for Deshaun. But that means all

1010
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: the pressures on him to play well, He's got a

1011
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: longer leash. But how ugly can it get? Don't I

1012
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: don't have the answer to that, but I don't expect

1013
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: it to go great. I don't think he's any good.

1014
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he just lost his confidence. He

1015
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: doesn't even remotely look like the same guy. The guy

1016
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: hasn't played that much football since sitting out the year.

1017
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: All the massus is the injuries. It's been a disaster.

1018
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: It's it's been legal robbery. That's what Mulgeta and Deshaun

1019
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: did to die Haslim legal robbery because they've robbed the Browns,

1020
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: which listen, if it's legal, do it. What do you

1021
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: think is the floor see for the Rams this season?

1022
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: I would say the ceiling would be win the division

1023
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: and compete for the NFC they have a huge, huge

1024
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: hole in Aaron Donald, who was the heartbeat of the

1025
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: defense and really the heart beat of the team. He's

1026
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the history of the league.

1027
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: So I give the Rams credit for doubling down on

1028
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: the two Florida State guys. Derek Ray, who's been on

1029
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: this podcast, who's the GM at Florida State. Obviously, Jared

1030
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Versus a really good player. McVeigh during the preseason game

1031
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: was calling him a stud. Loves him and he's a

1032
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: good player. He'd play for everybody in the league. The

1033
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: de tackle they took that that viral video of Verse

1034
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: calling him. I don't know if Derek said this on

1035
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: the podcast, but he told me Offen he and he's

1036
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Derek's a big Raider fan. He's like his motor and

1037
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: his energy for football is like Max Crosby. I mean,

1038
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: he's one of the super tryhard guy and listen. I

1039
00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: started watching the Pete Rose documentary on HBO. I don't

1040
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: think we talk enough about you know, Max Crosby, Pete Rose.

1041
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: Those guys are not the most talented guys like Pete

1042
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Rose became one of the greatest baseball players ever, and

1043
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: he'd be the first, tell you like, I wasn't even

1044
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: remotely the most talented guy on my own team. There

1045
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: were three or four guys who had more God given

1046
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: ability than me effort, And I think this kind of

1047
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: works for any walk of life, working hard, getting there early,

1048
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: doing everything humanly possible. In athletics you can feel it

1049
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: more because you're like running around, moving around, and basketball

1050
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: it's like keep cutting, you know, in baseball it's like

1051
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: run to first. In football, it's just like one hundred

1052
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: percent effort till the whistle. In life, it's different for

1053
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: us because if you have a desk job, you're not

1054
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: like sweating while you're doing it, but you can go

1055
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: above and beyond. And even if you're not the most talented,

1056
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: even if you're not the smartest or the brightest individual

1057
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: in the operation, it's pretty hard to fail if you

1058
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: max out at And that's the way he described this

1059
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: player to me. Now there's a difference of like max

1060
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: effort guy and Aaron Donald who had elite talent and

1061
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: was max effort.

1062
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: So I would say.

1063
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Their floor would be I mean, if Stafford missed any

1064
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: time they're done, Stafford misses any time they got no shot,

1065
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett is terrible. I don't even think he's an

1066
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: NFL player. Honestly, I would not have him mom if

1067
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: I ran an NFL team, he would not be on

1068
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: my NFL roster. And Jimmy Garoppolo, who I think has

1069
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: suspended the first two games for some PDUs, the guy

1070
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: we saw with the Raiders looked like a lost puppy

1071
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: and he was like that, you know, he just feels

1072
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: like he's lost. It feels like he's just lost, and

1073
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when it goes, it goes hard, and

1074
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't expect much different.

1075
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Now he does know Lafloor, Mike Laflor.

1076
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: Who's now, you know, working for McVeigh, So maybe he

1077
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: can kind of get him on the straight and the

1078
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: air because Josh McDaniel's who we also knew. I've never

1079
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: seen Jimmy play that bad in his life. I mean,

1080
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: he looked like a USFL player. So if that's your

1081
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, that version.

1082
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you can win games.

1083
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: And clearly they're just Stafford stays healthy, Puka and Cooper

1084
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: are healthy, like they're gonna be good. Mcveigh's stud The

1085
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: defense you would think would be pretty solid. They got

1086
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: a lot of young talent. We know they can score points.

1087
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I would be pretty high on them, but Stafford goes

1088
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: down like other like the forty nine ers. I think

1089
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: they could win some games with their backup quarterback. I

1090
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: don't even think it's possible with the Rams. Pete Rose

1091
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: documentary is funny man Pete until they showed it on

1092
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: the screen because he wears like this flat bill hat.

1093
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: He wears like the Robert Kraft you know, white collar

1094
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: blue shirt, but he untucks it and it's really big.

1095
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Those shirt. If you're gonna rock that shirt, the white collar,

1096
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: which feels like a little out of style more like.

1097
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: Ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, you.

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Have to tuck it in because those shirts, especially if

1099
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: you're buying it off the rack, are never you know,

1100
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I own some untucked shirts that you know are perfect right,

1101
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: you can.

1102
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: Wear them untucked.

1103
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Those are not made to wear untucked. So he walks

1104
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: around he just looks like your classic. I thought Pete

1105
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, seventy and then you realize, well,

1106
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: he's broke into the big leagues in the sixties shows.

1107
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: He's eighty one years old. He's dyeing his hair.

1108
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: He got caught gambling and.

1109
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: Just refused to tell the truth.

1110
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: Refuse to tell the truth just.

1111
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't know in the history of sports, we've ever

1112
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: seen higher highs and lower lows. I mean, the guy

1113
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: became a legend, a champion, own some of the most

1114
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: heralded stats in the history of a game based on stats,

1115
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: and then get.

1116
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: Banned for life.

1117
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, banned for life is not allowed in the

1118
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because he lied shows it. You know,

1119
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: your parents tell you when you're young, just tell the truth,

1120
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't want to tell the truth.

1121
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in a lot of trouble. And then

1122
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: the older you get, you realize you didn't kill anybody.

1123
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: Just just tell the truth, take your medicine, and it'll

1124
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: be over faster. When you lie, it always is worse.

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01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: And Pete, you know, as he said in that documentary,

1126
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: he's like, my lawyers told me they're never gonna be

1127
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: able to prove it.

1128
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 2: Ever.

1129
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: And then the Major League Baseball, the attorney they got

1130
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: to look into the situation and basically do all the

1131
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: due diligence for them to figure out what was going on.

1132
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: I forget who it was, like Paul Giamatti's dad, who

1133
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: was the commissioner at the time, was like, we hired

1134
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: a lawyer who literally was taking down the mob. This

1135
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be that difficult for him. And they

1136
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: figured out everything that Pete Rose actually did, and then

1137
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: they told him and to sit down. Pete Rose like, realize,

1138
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm caught red handed. And they showed Pete's buddies who

1139
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: got arrested, who were involved in the gamble. It's crazy

1140
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: when you look back, it's like gambling and weed things

1141
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: like that I grew up on that were so taboo.

1142
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: It's like what were we talking about? But all the

1143
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: gambling guys from like the eighties or seventies all look

1144
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: the same, all look like lower level mob guys. They

1145
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: all have on the jumpsuits, they all have on the

1146
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: aviators just to they look straight out of Central casting

1147
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: in a movie. And they were all Pete's boys. I honestly,

1148
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: my takeaway, if you're betting on your team to win,

1149
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: betting on a team.

1150
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: To lose, clearly ban for life.

1151
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: You should go to jail betting on a team to win.

1152
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: I understand why you can't do it, but it's not

1153
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: that crazy. You're literally betting on your team to win.

1154
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, what's your job. Your life is depending

1155
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: on a team winning, if that's the business you're in,

1156
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: so putting some cash on the side. I think Phil

1157
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Mickelson once did that on the Ryder Cup and he lost.

1158
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: Because they lost.

1159
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me as much.

1160
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: I get it.

1161
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: It's never gonna be, you know, normalized.

1162
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: Now. I think a lot of people.

1163
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Go, are we sure he never been on a team

1164
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: to lose when he knew some shitty ass pitcher was

1165
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: rolling out and they had no shot playing. You know,

1166
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: a team that's rolling with their ace and they're rolling there,

1167
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: dude from double a out and you go, no, he's

1168
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: too competitive. But anytime you know, you start gambling, I

1169
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I wouldn't put it past him, that's all.

1170
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: So I kind of get both sides. Just sad story

1171
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: though al Michael's and him used me buddies.

1172
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: He's in it. It's just an easy watch. It's an

1173
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: easy watch.

1174
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: Different time too, And I was watching it with Maria

1175
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: and she's like, God, it's just simpler times. I'm like,

1176
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you realize how famous all these guys were,

1177
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: like baseball players, and Pete Rose's era were the equivalent

1178
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: of like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, the Watts, the Bosas,

1179
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Like how big of a deal these players were, Like

1180
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Bench Pete Rose when he first got to the

1181
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: big leagues. Mickey Mann was making fun of him in

1182
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: the preseason game, Like how famous these guys were in

1183
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies. When I moved to the Bay

1184
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Via Blue used to work out in my gym rip

1185
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Like that guy was.

1186
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: A rock star in the seventies.

1187
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: He's the equivalent of like an NFL quarterback different times baseball,

1188
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: just the brawls they used to get in just look like,

1189
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: just looked fun. Sometimes I miss the only thing I

1190
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 1: miss whenever you look back, like times before you were born.

1191
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: It's like, God, if I would have known what I

1192
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: would know now, would have been a real estate Mayven

1193
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Tycoon be like, no, you wouldn't have because you wouldn't

1194
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: have actually known. But it would have been cool to

1195
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: watch sports in the seventies, like the Steelers and Ragers

1196
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: games in the mid seventies, or you know, the Reds

1197
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: playing the A's in the World Series would have been fun,

1198
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: or Wilton Bill Russell going at it. Hey, John, big fan,

1199
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm on the road a lot from my job.

1200
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: So I appreciate the work.

1201
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: My question is more of a hot take, and I

1202
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts.

1203
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: Shanahan is the most overrated head coach in the NFL.

1204
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: He is brilliant.

1205
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant offensive mind, but absolutely terrible when it

1206
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: comes to game management and crucial moments. I've heard you

1207
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: mentioned in a lot of your pods that all he

1208
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: wants to do is run the ball. Yet in the

1209
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: biggest games of his career, he's elected to go pass

1210
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: happy at the absolute wrong time. Both super Bowls, I

1211
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: think he used the Atlanta Super Bowl, and then I

1212
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: think this last Super Bowl he's using Roman numerals. I'm

1213
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: not up to date on my Roman numerals, so I

1214
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: have no clue, but I think he's choosing Atlanta because

1215
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: he used l I and then Live, which I.

1216
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: Think was last year. Then in this year's Super Bowl,

1217
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: so maybe he was using the first two and then

1218
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, I'm trying to keep up here.

1219
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: Then this year he made the big mistake of giving

1220
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: the homes four downs in overtime. It's little things like

1221
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: that that make me wonder if he'll ever the big one,

1222
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: as Super Bowls are often decided by a crucial play

1223
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: or a coaching decision down the stretch.

1224
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: Ps.

1225
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: This is coming from a Falcons fan. I talked about

1226
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: this on the podcast when Sean McVay hired the dude.

1227
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to be a master at everything,

1228
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: and when you're calling plays on that given week, you

1229
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: are trying to master your own team on offense and

1230
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: the opponent you are doing simply doing more than the

1231
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: CEO head coach and Andy Reid was talked about in

1232
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: a very similar vein as the way you just described

1233
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: Kyle can't manage and maybe as through experience he's obviously

1234
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: gotten a lot better at it, it is still difficult.

1235
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: I do think you need someone to help you out

1236
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: with that stuff.

1237
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1238
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: Part of having that someone like Sean mcvay's got John Striker,

1239
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: is he gonna listen to him, Because I think the

1240
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: forty nine ers say we have a guy he chimes

1241
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: in the Kyle's ear, and Kyle doesn't always listen. So

1242
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, the ego, the belief in yourself. Sometimes you

1243
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: just gotta relinquish a little juice and you can't micro

1244
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: manage everything. And I give McVeigh credit for making that hire. Like,

1245
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: why didn't Kyle hire this guy? That'd be my question.

1246
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: Why weren't the forty nine ers all over this guy?

1247
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: What are the Rams offering him five hundred grand? Why

1248
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: don't you offer him seven to fifty? That's just a

1249
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: line item for your operation. Rams are offering am eight

1250
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: hundred grand, offer him one point five because his value

1251
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: If that's the difference of winning an extra playoff game

1252
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: or winning the Super Bowl? What's that worth to you? Honestly,

1253
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: what's that worth to you? So credit the Rams for

1254
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: hiring that cat, especially if Seawn's gonna listen to him.

1255
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm a big Lions fan, but also still a Stafford fan,

1256
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: even though he doesn't play for my squad. Although I

1257
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: like golf and think he's done a great job, I

1258
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: do believe Stafford is more talented. You are correct, Stafford

1259
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: is more talented. Do you think that if Stafford was

1260
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: never traded with this roster and coaching staff, the Lions

1261
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: would have won the Super Bowl in twenty three or

1262
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: even twenty two, or do you think that the trade

1263
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: was needed to get the picks and players required to

1264
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: be in the building blocks up for the team, and

1265
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: if Stafford was still here, the team wouldn't be where

1266
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: it is now. Well, when you traded Stafford for golf,

1267
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: that first.

1268
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: Year, you went three and thirteen. If memory serves me correct, you.

1269
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: Probably win a couple more games with him, and that

1270
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: led you to Aiden Hutchinson, who I think is going

1271
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: to be one of the better pass rushes in the

1272
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: league for the next seven eight years. Then the following year,

1273
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: that trade because Stafford got hurt, gave you the sixth pick,

1274
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: and that led to a running back that looks like

1275
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara meets Christian McCaffrey and Sam Laporta, So that

1276
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: trade in a weird way. It's hard to do this

1277
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: because there are so many variables, but I think it's

1278
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: safe to say that there's a decent chance that you

1279
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: would not have Hutchinson.

1280
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: Or either the running back or Laporta.

1281
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: And I know there are other aspects of it, but

1282
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: if you just look at it in a vacuum like that,

1283
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: And part of the reason why everyone's so high on

1284
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: you right now is because your offensive weaponry and Jared

1285
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: Goff here's the difference Stafford's better than Goff if they're

1286
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: both healthy, no one would argue that if the teams

1287
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: are the same, you would take Matt Stafford over Jared Goff.

1288
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: But if you can load your team up like the

1289
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: Lions did and insert Jared Goff, who's like, what ninth

1290
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: best quarterback?

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Speaker 2: What Stafford? Fifth, sixth?

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Speaker 1: The gap ain't that wide and you're in position now

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Speaker 1: if you just put Matt Stafford in that game in

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Speaker 1: the second half against the forty nine ers, do you

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Speaker 1: have a better chance to win? Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: fair to say, But like you said, that's not really

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Speaker 1: how it works. So I think part of trading him

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Speaker 1: was what you had to do. You know, forever the

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Speaker 1: Oakland A's, because the owners so cheap and just they

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Speaker 1: don't make any money, would always trade sweet players like Hudson,

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Speaker 1: Mould or Zito or you assessment, whoever the group was,

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Speaker 1: they would trade them all and then a couple of

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Speaker 1: years later they would have the new version of those guys.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's ultimately what Stafford did for you. You

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Speaker 1: traded him, his value was still really high because the

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Speaker 1: Niners and Rams both really wanted him, and I think

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Speaker 1: you guys deserve a lot of credit because you essentially

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Speaker 1: chose the deals were the same. You want two first

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Speaker 1: round picks and Jimmy Garoppolo or two first round picks

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Speaker 1: and Jared Goff. And I think at the time of

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Speaker 1: the trade, a lot of people are like, you want

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff And it was one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 1: right move. Honestly, it's a pretty legendary trade now looking back,

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Speaker 1: it really is. Doesn't top Ryan Poles and everything you

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Speaker 1: got for the Bears, but saved your franchise. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: all listening. Hopefully had a great day. If you're having

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Speaker 1: a good day, depending on where you're listening, We have

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Speaker 1: another podcast tomorrow so you the volume