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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December second. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home

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Speaker 1: Loans and now a guy who was prepared to throw

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Speaker 1: down yesterday, but not as much as he threw down

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Speaker 1: Thursday at Bisselli's jap Chad taking.

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Speaker 2: Out Mark Vandermer. He would have been the first one down.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with you busy

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Speaker 2: two hours ahead. In the aftermath of the loss of

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Speaker 2: the Texans twenty three twenty the final score, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: in Concussion Protocol Walker Little Extended Jaguars will officially be

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Speaker 2: fully eliminated with a Broncos win tonight. The Keeping It

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Speaker 2: Real segment, of course coming up the addics fan questions

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Speaker 2: around the NFL. The Jaguars have been eliminated from the

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Speaker 2: Vision title contention after yesterday's loss. Plenty to get to,

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Speaker 2: but Trevor Lawrence in the Protocol is priority number one.

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Speaker 3: He's also dealing with a.

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Speaker 2: Left shoulder issue five games to play. Let's hear from

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Speaker 2: head coach Doug Peterson today on the possibility of shutting

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Speaker 2: him down for the season.

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Speaker 4: You still want to send you know, a positive, good

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Speaker 4: message to your team that we're still we're still fighting,

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Speaker 4: you know, to the end. Still got five games on

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Speaker 4: the schedule. Obviously, you know we'll see but you know

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Speaker 4: we got to be smart too for the for his

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Speaker 4: you know, his long term health as well.

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Speaker 2: So he also said today that they'll see what happens

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Speaker 2: when he comes out of the protocol, reassessed, see where

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Speaker 2: the team is.

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Speaker 3: That's Doug Peterson. Earlier today, Hall of.

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Speaker 2: Fame left tackle Tony Boselli with me here in the

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Speaker 2: Hyundai studios and senior writer for CBS Sports Pete Prisco

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Speaker 2: down in South Florida.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Pete. Let's start with you. How are you.

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Speaker 5: What's up? Guys? Boy? That was bad?

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Speaker 6: Yes, that was a bad bad scene, bad hit, dirty hit,

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Speaker 6: flagrant hit. I thought the team responded when it happened,

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Speaker 6: and probably could have even responded a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: But again, you never like to see that ever in

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Speaker 6: a game. And you know it was when the elbow

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Speaker 6: comes up and goes to the head. That's a dirty hit.

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Speaker 6: And he's had some dirty hits in his past too,

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Speaker 6: So there's a suspension coming. I think his statement that

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Speaker 6: he sent out he's trying to get ahead of that

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Speaker 6: a little bit, but it was it was brutal to

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Speaker 6: see and I was watching I can't imagine what you

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Speaker 6: guys saw it when you saw it, lie because I

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Speaker 6: was watching it on TV.

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Speaker 5: But it looked awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. You could see it coming

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Speaker 3: as far as where Al Alshazier was and how Trevor

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Speaker 3: was going. I'm like, and I was like, get down,

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Speaker 3: get down, because I was worried about his shoulder more

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Speaker 3: than anything.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's out there running for the first time. I

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Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, he's got a bad shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Get down. And so he starts getting down and just

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Al al SA's ear just takes

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Speaker 3: Al Shaiir al shay al Shair to.

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Speaker 5: Give him about four more tries.

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Speaker 3: You'll get it right, Al shai Eir pub going to

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Speaker 3: be number one. You should know it by sorry. Al

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Speaker 3: Shaiir took the form right to the head and and

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Speaker 3: that that wasn't what gave him the concussion. It's his

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Speaker 3: head bouncing off the turf with the force of all

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Speaker 3: of al Shair coming through them, and that right there.

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Speaker 3: You knew it was bad when you saw it and

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Speaker 3: you saw his arms freeze, which is the telltale sign

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Speaker 3: of a severe concussion. It was a cheap shot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we see it every week in the NFL. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't care. Maybe it was a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a late slide, but we see late slides like that

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Speaker 3: all the time, and the defender what they do is

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Speaker 3: they end up going over the top of them and

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Speaker 3: maybe the slight contact incidental. And everyone understands it because

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Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a late slide and

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Speaker 3: the defender goes over the top and it's over.

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Speaker 2: But he was purposeful or they hit.

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Speaker 6: Him and it's a foul. But you're trying to slide

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Speaker 6: over him. If you hit him, it's a foul.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, but it's they're trying to get out

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Speaker 3: of the way he was. I don't care what his

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Speaker 3: statement is. You watch the tape.

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Speaker 2: He was leading with the forearm through.

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Speaker 6: Trevor yep, right that that was a dirty that's a

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Speaker 6: dirty play. There's no the forum comes up like that,

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Speaker 6: that's a dirty play.

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Speaker 3: Dirty play. But you said something I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: You liked the initial response, but you thought there could

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Speaker 3: be more. Before I tell you what I believe, I

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Speaker 3: want to hear what you think more could have been done?

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Speaker 3: You have questions, Well, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't mind the initial stuff. You gotta defend your quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I thought Evan Ingram did a great job. I thought,

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Speaker 6: you know, when they started carrying on a little bit,

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Speaker 6: that's like the Jaguars did a great job.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about in the second half.

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Speaker 6: You know, you gotta you gotta go back in there

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Speaker 6: and show some of your physical play.

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Speaker 5: And maybe push the envelope a little bit to show, Look,

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Speaker 5: you got our quarterback. We're not gonna take this crap

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Speaker 5: from you. And Tony, Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: And even dating back to when you guys played, the

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Speaker 6: reputation of the Jaguars was that you were you were

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Speaker 6: a tad soft.

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Speaker 5: Remember the Titans.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to say it like the movie,

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Speaker 6: but the Titans always came in like they were the

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Speaker 6: tougher team than you were. And there were times and

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Speaker 6: I remember, you were not in this game back in

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Speaker 6: the day. You were not in the game. You're hurt,

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Speaker 6: I think, But I think it was Scott Sanderson.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember him? Played for the Titans.

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Speaker 6: He was an offensive guard and one of your guys.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was busted through and he

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Speaker 6: came from behind and cut and chopped him from behind

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Speaker 6: with one of the most illegal blocks.

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Speaker 5: You'll ever see, and I think he sent them to

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Speaker 5: the side.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was, and there was no retaliation,

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Speaker 6: And I said something I think even to you after

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Speaker 6: the game, because you weren't in the game, and knowing

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Speaker 6: you the way you were, you probably would have retaliated.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think there was enough of that in

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Speaker 5: the second half yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying go out and physically hurt somebody, because

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Speaker 6: nobody wants to see anybody hurt in the game. Nobody

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Speaker 6: wants to see, you know, that kind of dirty hit

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Speaker 6: like he had. But I think there's moments where you

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Speaker 6: have to show that you're not going to be pushed

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Speaker 6: around and you won't allow your quarterback to be hit

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Speaker 6: like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pee, I would disagree with that. Your description of

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Speaker 3: the teams in the nineties. I mean, I thought, if

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Speaker 3: you go back anytime anyone got illegally or stretched the

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Speaker 3: play to hit Mark Burnell or any of our skill guys,

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Speaker 3: there was usually a fight happening. So I would disagree,

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Speaker 3: But do.

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Speaker 5: You remember that playing. I don't think you were in

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Speaker 5: the game. I don't think you were in that game,

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Speaker 5: so I would.

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Speaker 3: Disagree with your your description there. I thought the response

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Speaker 3: by Evan Ingram and the guys right when it happened

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Speaker 3: was fine, great, that's that's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I would have wished like

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Speaker 3: they would have jumped up, like just not let him

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Speaker 3: get up and just bury his head in the turf

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Speaker 3: with multiple forearms in the back of his head.

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Speaker 5: But I kind of.

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Speaker 3: Onde, well, I mean, they could have got But I

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Speaker 3: thought the response was perfect. I really did. I thought

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Speaker 3: Evan Ingram didn't hesitate. I have no issues. If they

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Speaker 3: all would have got kicked out of the game for

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Speaker 3: beating and fighting the whole text and sidelines after what

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Speaker 3: was happened, I'd have been fine. At some point, you

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Speaker 3: have to police the game yourself during it, and I

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Speaker 3: know the game has changed, but at the same time,

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Speaker 3: you just can't allow that to happen. And I thought

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Speaker 3: the team responded and as far as could they have

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Speaker 3: done more.

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Speaker 5: Not in the moment.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying in the second half, you know, you

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Speaker 6: might have been able to blast somebody right, maybe a

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Speaker 6: second after the whistle or whatever, just get get a

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Speaker 6: message sent a little bit.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to tolerate that, and so be it.

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Speaker 5: If you got a fifteen yard flag, take that you gotta.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes the end result for the long term is better

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Speaker 5: than what would happen in the moment. That's that's what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And at what point, though, if that were to happen Peede,

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Speaker 2: do they get labeled as an undisciplined team for going back?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Not in this case.

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Speaker 6: Anybody knows, anybody knows has ever played football, and Tony

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Speaker 6: knows that. It'll tell you if something like that happens

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Speaker 6: at some point, there's usually an eye for an.

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Speaker 3: Eye, okay.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying go go at CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud's knees or anything stupid or ignorant like that.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is get a shot in at the end.

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Speaker 5: You know, receiver goes across the middle and the ball

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Speaker 5: goes through his arms.

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Speaker 6: Get a shot, good shot, blast him, and maybe you

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Speaker 6: get a fifteen yard penalty.

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Speaker 5: But you're sending that message back what you do to

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Speaker 5: our guy, We just got.

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Speaker 6: One back, and that's the message you sent, right.

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Speaker 3: There, Pete, I know what you're saying, and I understand it,

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Speaker 3: I think, and you gotta be careful here because there

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Speaker 3: is a line like I was never like I'd go

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Speaker 3: after guys like we remember Jesse Armstad from the Giants, Pete, Yes,

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Speaker 3: he hit Mark Low during the preseason, knocked Mark out

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Speaker 3: for the first three weeks of the season.

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Speaker 5: I remember it.

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Speaker 3: And we played them week two and we purposely we're

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Speaker 3: going to go after him and we made it no.

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Speaker 3: And from the first play to the last play, if

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Speaker 3: whoever what offer offensive lineman was getting the next level,

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Speaker 3: you went and found him and you just beat the

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Speaker 3: hell out of him. And there was multime like the

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Speaker 3: whistles blow, You're still blocking him, trying to throw him

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Speaker 3: on the ground, hit him in the head. With that said,

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Speaker 3: I would not go at his knees, No, because I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to end his.

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Speaker 5: Career, right, You're not taking away somebody's slightly.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. As bad as what

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Speaker 3: I thought Al Shazir did, Alshair did, like going after

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Speaker 3: his knees or going after CJ. Stroud's needs or something

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Speaker 3: like that, that's not that's just I don't like that with that,

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Speaker 3: But I would have been okay if Trey Ron or

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Speaker 3: Josh maybe took three steps till the ball was thrown

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Speaker 3: and hit him right in the back of the head.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have probably wouldn't been like, okay, fifteen yarder. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there was a play down the sideline when CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 3: was getting ready to run out of bounds and tray Von,

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Speaker 3: which he did the right thing. He did the right

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Speaker 3: on the sideline there, because if he hits him there

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Speaker 3: the whole I don't I'm not sure you finished the

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Speaker 3: game right. So there's that's what.

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Speaker 3: So what close to that? They're probably getting run out

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Speaker 3: There's other way because yeah, he would kill them. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: No, But you talk about trying to injure somebody.

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Speaker 5: Right, that's a difference going at knees, going going at

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Speaker 6: That's because you, just like you said, you're taking away

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Speaker 3: Benny Thompson, great special needs player, kind of middle of

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Speaker 3: He played safety, strong safety, and it's a tight game,

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Speaker 3: I love it because that's what you're supposed to do,

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Speaker 6: Why has Brandon Sheriff's been in the league for so long.

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Speaker 6: Why the hell would you take your helmet off?

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Speaker 3: He knows, Oh, because no, because uh uh uh Shaier

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 5: Over'reseeing here.

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Speaker 6: Don't throw things. Don't throw things. You're not part of it.

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Speaker 6: Dirty things happen sometimes they deal with it. You don't

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Speaker 3: So people, I think you and are in agreement. I'm

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Speaker 5: Did you see what he.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't see that coming out a halftime too,

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Speaker 3: But I also I think he was referring to maybe

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you're not responding because you're gonna

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Speaker 5: Anyways, in that scenario.

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Speaker 3: This is like who cares at some point, It's more

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Speaker 2: Just his We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back around

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Speaker 2: But we've got to get to what's left for the

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Speaker 2: a moment. We'll get to the defensive performance. This actually

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Speaker 3: Another hundred yard Russia. I know, last play of the game,

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Speaker 2: Also on offense, Mac Jones in the second half, we'll break

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Speaker 3: Second hour coming up. I want to hear what Pete

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do too.

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Speaker 7: I'll be handle when it's handled. I think everybody right

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Speaker 7: now is trying to get these next five weeks right,

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Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco Day after a twenty three twenty

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Speaker 2: loss to the Houston Texans five games ago, the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: eliminated from division title contention, but not officially eliminated from postseason.

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Speaker 5: How until if Denver wins that I took correct.

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Speaker 3: The New England Patriots have one more win than us,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you need not worry about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you don't think we're going.

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Speaker 5: Uh no, in fact, we should start talking about the draft.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: We got rules. Fans are calling for it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of things. They call a lot of things, Pete.

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Speaker 3: rest of us. No drafts, No drafts, Pete, did you

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Speaker 3: see I sent you? Uh what you were? What we

440
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Speaker 3: were referring to earlier about Bucky Brooks comments on X

441
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Speaker 3: I think they were spot on by the way Bucky's

442
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Speaker 3: great or what he does. Yeah, outstanding, outstanding football guy.

443
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Speaker 3: And then we were listening to Demiko Ryans.

444
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Speaker 2: During the break.

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Speaker 3: Apparently today Pete his press conference day, and I have

446
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Speaker 3: issues with Demiko. He was basically trying to justify it

447
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Speaker 3: that it was a late slide and that it's not

448
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: okay what happened. Everything's open. Trevoro's okay, but the Jaguars.

449
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: And then he got on and said our sideline didn't

450
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Speaker 3: handle it right. And I wish I'd have been at

451
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Speaker 3: that press conference. I'd have raised my hand, Hey, Dimiko,

452
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Speaker 3: Tony Biselli from Jacksonville, if Trayvon Walker would have laid

453
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Speaker 3: out C. J. Stroud on the sideline, would you have

454
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Speaker 3: made sure your all your guys stayed right where they

455
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Speaker 3: were not confronted?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

457
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Speaker 3: Not confronted Trayvon because we all know the answer. The

458
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Speaker 3: place would have exploded.

459
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Speaker 5: So Rans is a player.

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Speaker 3: He knows better now what he's trying to do. Pete,

461
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Speaker 3: he's trying to protect his guy. They're in a playoff run,

462
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Speaker 3: trying to keep the limit. That's exactly right, because they are.

463
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Speaker 3: They need him. They can't stop the run very well

464
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Speaker 3: without him, so they're not. I think it's a one

465
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Speaker 3: and done in the playoffsj Stroud has regressed.

466
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Speaker 5: The line has sped him up to the.

467
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Speaker 3: Yes, sped you nailed it. He's so sped.

468
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Speaker 5: Up yeap doesn't allow anything to develop.

469
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Speaker 3: And then he misses things too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which like the throat of tank dell down the fleet.

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Speaker 5: He never missed that.

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Speaker 3: Yep. He's very late.

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Speaker 2: And they are running the ball some mixing over one

474
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Speaker 2: hundred again, but I had to do at the end

475
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Speaker 2: of the game, but didn't, and they're running enough.

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Speaker 3: Keep on saying that. At the end of the game

477
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Speaker 3: the third down play, you understand, it still counts as

478
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Speaker 3: one hundred yards.

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Speaker 6: And they were still trying to stop them JP. I

480
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Speaker 6: know that they if they got to stop there, they

481
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Speaker 6: might have got the balls.

482
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Speaker 2: Trying to stop they ran left every time in that

483
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Speaker 2: possession and kept going that way and still got it.

484
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Speaker 5: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 6: And and you know one of the defenses, I think

486
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Speaker 6: it was Monteric Brown got caught inside.

487
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Speaker 5: On one of those runs and yeah that was the

488
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Speaker 5: long run. Yeah. So look, the bottom line is Demiico

489
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Speaker 5: Ryans is wrong, Tony. But what he's doing is right.

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Speaker 5: And if you put it, if you actually asked him that,

491
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Speaker 5: he would say to you, yeah, you're right. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you if I talked to Demico privately, just

493
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Speaker 3: right leo, tell you what he.

494
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Speaker 5: Was doing, he would tell you, and you would do

495
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Speaker 5: the same thing if you were the head coach.

496
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Speaker 3: You're trying to protect your guy. I get it politics, man,

497
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Speaker 3: but I don't think he had to go to the

498
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Speaker 3: extra mile, like getting on our bench, like you know

499
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Speaker 3: exactly if if if Trayvon would have laid out CJ

500
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Speaker 3: when you like, it would have been a penalty. It's

501
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Speaker 3: not part of the game. I'm glad Trayvon didn't do it.

502
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Speaker 3: I don't want CJ to get hurt. He's the fun

503
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Speaker 3: guy to watch. But if you hadn't done it that play,

504
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: the bench would have exploded. They're going crazy and by

505
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Speaker 3: the way.

506
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Speaker 5: And bench was nearly out of his control, as some

507
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Speaker 5: benches would be. Would you agree with that?

508
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Speaker 3: No, Well, there was a lot of.

509
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Speaker 5: Guys that's a compliment.

510
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Speaker 3: By Yeah, there was a lot of guys in the

511
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Speaker 3: peripheral that were just making kind of not getting all.

512
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Speaker 3: But there was about ten fifteen guys that it was,

513
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Speaker 3: you know, ae W wrestling in there. I mean they

514
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 3: were they were going after the.

515
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Speaker 5: Trayvon Walker was in the middle of that.

516
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Speaker 6: Yes, he had no helmet on, which again, tell him

517
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Speaker 6: put his helmet on.

518
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Speaker 3: I don't think he probably doesn't need one.

519
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Speaker 5: Who else was in there?

520
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Speaker 3: I mean that's a big Traymond's a big man.

521
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Speaker 5: He is a big man. He's the stuff around.

522
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Speaker 3: Sheriff was in there, him in there, Evan obviously, Uh,

523
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Speaker 3: Jorian chops, Uh?

524
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Speaker 6: Where was that? Where was the I didn't see that?

525
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 6: But did you see anybody see that? Where was he

526
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Speaker 6: when he punched?

527
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Speaker 3: I saw him go in. I guess he's in the

528
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Speaker 3: pile down there, so I saw him go into the melee.

529
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Speaker 3: I didn't see the punch.

530
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Speaker 5: I like it, though, you got a defensive back going

531
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Speaker 5: in there like that. I like it.

532
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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior he's not afraid.

533
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Speaker 5: No, he was Jason around. He tried to get it.

534
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: He tried, though Brian.

535
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Speaker 6: Thomas looked like he was doing one of those hold

536
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Speaker 6: me back, holding me back, hold me back, like.

537
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, he really didn't want.

538
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Knowing Brian Thomas, I don't know

539
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: him well, but knowing them, I think that was legit.

540
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Speaker 3: Like he was the edge.

541
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Speaker 5: I don't think Brian, but he was right next to sheriff.

542
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 5: But he was doing it.

543
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Speaker 3: Smart guy, he's I mean so, but it's so unfortunate.

544
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean it really yesterday. I'm just watching that game

545
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: and like it is the same story every week outside

546
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: of Buffalo and Detroit to getting blown out, start slow,

547
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: get behind, scramble, make it a one possession game and

548
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: either don't get to stop, or don't doore or don't score.

549
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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it doesn't matter if we have the

550
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: ball or not last, because if we have the ball last,

551
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: we're not going to score. If they have the ball last,

552
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Speaker 3: they're going to score.

553
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Speaker 5: I mean, think about it. Think about this.

554
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Speaker 6: The Eagles are like considered one of the maybe the

555
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Speaker 6: best team in the league right now. Jacksonville at a

556
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 6: wheel route to go win it, right, I mean they

557
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 6: could have beat them that time, and so you're right, Tony,

558
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 6: every game other than those two, Detroit and Buffalo have

559
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 6: come down to, you know, the end of the game

560
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 6: and slow starts.

561
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Speaker 5: Why do they always start so slow?

562
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Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know.

563
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Speaker 3: One of the things I think we should do because

564
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna be out of the playoffs here soon, probably

565
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: by eleven tonight.

566
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Speaker 5: Probably by midnight to night.

567
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: Made it probably, I think it, you know, because I know,

568
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: as much as I don't want to do it, we're

569
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: gonna talk about the roster, and we're talking about free agency,

570
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about the draft. I know it's coming,

571
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: but I think it'd be interesting just to look at

572
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: the overall roster and the makeup and the build of it.

573
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: Because I got the question multiple times over the break,

574
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Speaker 3: but really even today was like what happened? Like how

575
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: do we get here?

576
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 8: Like?

577
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: How do we become the worst team in the NFL,

578
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: the only team there's only three teams with two losses?

579
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: I think believe it's the Giants who are an absolute

580
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: dumpster fire. It's the Raiders who are they invented dumpster fire.

581
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Terrible and us. Remember whenever one said Calans first, we

582
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: picked first. You remember when everyone was saying the Carolina

583
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: Panthers the worst team in the NFL, No, they're not.

584
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Speaker 6: And you know part of the reason why they're not, Tony,

585
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 6: tell me what do you always talk about big people?

586
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Speaker 5: You know what they did in the offseason.

587
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: They spent invested in big people.

588
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 6: Correct And and the left tackle, the third year guy

589
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 6: gotten much better.

590
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Speaker 3: He's gotten much better he he was, he struggled.

591
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Speaker 5: It was.

592
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Speaker 2: Pete.

593
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Speaker 3: I'll say this. I remember watching him last year early

594
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Speaker 3: I did a national game and then we played them

595
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Speaker 3: late and you saw him getting better last year.

596
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Speaker 5: And he's much better this year than yea.

597
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Speaker 6: And the right tackle, Moten's always been a battler, like

598
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: almost like a Leon Sears. He kind of back, you

599
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: know what I mean, squatty, kind of tough, high and

600
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Speaker 6: so all of a sudden you look at their offensive line.

601
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Speaker 6: They can run it, they're protecting him. I mean, they

602
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 6: can do a lot of things because of their offensive line.

603
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Speaker 6: That's the reason. And and and.

604
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Speaker 5: Again you can't there's only so many of them.

605
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Speaker 6: And by the way, we talk a lot about big people,

606
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 6: there was a big guy on the field on the

607
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Speaker 6: other side of the ball for Jacksonville that hadn't played

608
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Speaker 6: much this year, that actually did some things on Sunday.

609
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Speaker 5: Mason Smith did some good things on some.

610
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Speaker 3: I want to come back and talk about two guys.

611
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Speaker 3: Pete stick on this theme. I want to talk about

612
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Speaker 3: Walker Little, who signed a new deal. I want to

613
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Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion. Pete up the deal and.

614
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Speaker 5: Watch the tape this morning, and I'll talk about the

615
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Speaker 5: deal too.

616
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the deal on his play. And then

617
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Speaker 3: let's talk about Mason Smith because I watched him as well,

618
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Speaker 3: and he's a young guy, rookie second rounder up like

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Speaker 3: hasn't done much, hasn't been on the field, on the

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Speaker 3: field healthy Scratch Scratch because of an ankle, got his

621
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Speaker 3: most extensive playing time yesterday. And let's talk about those

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Speaker 3: two guys when we come back.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a it's a play that nobody

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Speaker 4: wants to see in our league obviously, you know, because

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Speaker 4: you see what happens, you know, after the fact, and

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Speaker 4: it just escalates. And and I've got a lot of

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Speaker 4: respect for coach Ryan's and I mean he does I know,

635
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Speaker 4: he doesn't coach his team that way. We don't coach

636
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Speaker 4: our team that way. And it's unfortunate, it really is.

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, you know, And I'm just glad that you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, Trevor is gonna be fine. You'll obviously be

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's guaranteed, Pete. Now, if he plays well,

659
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: he's gonna be underpaid very quickly, and you're gonna you're

660
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: gonna have him for a deal.

661
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Speaker 5: But let's be real, the guys never really won a job, Pete.

662
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: You took my thunder. So here, So here's my old

663
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: thoughts about this. I've been thinking about it, got a

664
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: ton of questions, and I want to start by I

665
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: am so happy for Walker Little as a player. I

666
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: love when guys get paid. It's a tough game. And

667
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure Walker, like me and everyone else a lot more,

668
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: almost everyone I know who played the game, this is

669
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: what you wanted to do your whole life and now

670
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: to get paid the amount that he's going to be

671
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Speaker 3: paid that can really take care of his family and

672
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: like right generationally, I mean, it's great, It is so

673
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: cool for him. So I'm so excited for him, And

674
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: I actually have no issue with the deal, length, amount

675
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Speaker 3: or anything. If you think about starting tackles and having

676
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: starting tackle a starting tackle in the NFL, TUSA, Okay, what's.

677
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: Less money than what Cam Robinson got from him? It is.

678
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Speaker 3: And if you look at the free agent market this year,

679
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: PFF has him as the third or excuse me, the

680
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: fourth rated tackle that's in the free agent market coming up.

681
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Speaker 3: So you're a PFF guy, now, No, I just heard that, Okay,

682
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: and and Pete and I've talked about it a lot

683
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: on the show that offensive line played. There's only so

684
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: many guys who are starting caliber at that position, so

685
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: I imagine there would be some there be there was going

686
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: to be a market if he got the free agency

687
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying you should have waited till that.

688
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: I thought the timing was interesting from the standpoint. What

689
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 3: was the hurry to do it now when you basically

690
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: had a free six six week look and maybe you

691
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: don't take all six, maybe take three of them because

692
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: Pete's right. Walker Little has never won the job here.

693
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: He was given multiple opportunities to win the job. He

694
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: never won the job, to the point they weren't confident

695
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: enough that he could be the starting right tackle. They

696
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: went and spend a first rounder when they had Cam

697
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: on the roster at left and Walker Little was under contract.

698
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: They didn't think he was good enough to be the

699
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: starting right tackle because the year before he couldn't beat

700
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Speaker 3: out Juwan Taylor, and so they drafted Anton Harrison. He

701
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: has started here because of injury or suspension or because

702
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: the starter got traded, and now you have this. You

703
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: have this look for it's been two weeks. This is

704
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: the third week. You have five more after this, and

705
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Speaker 3: I and I thought they'd wait a little bit longer.

706
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Speaker 3: With that said, it makes sense though, because if we

707
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Speaker 3: went through this, I think it was last week of

708
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: the week before before they did this deal. They really

709
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: they had Anton Harrison and Ezra Cleveland. You had no

710
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: left tackle under contract, Your center and right guard are

711
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: going there eleventh year. You don't know what they're gonna do,

712
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: and you have.

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Speaker 5: This center center by the way, it wasn't very good

714
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Speaker 5: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And you have no real backups. They be developed unless

716
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Speaker 3: you feel like Luke Fortner is all of a sudden

717
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: gonna flip the switch and become tremendously better. So what

718
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: they've done by doing by making this having signed Walker Little,

719
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: they now have a spot filled. So when you go

720
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Speaker 3: into free agency in draft next year, you can focus

721
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Speaker 3: on the interior war of the offensive line and defensive line.

722
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Because I'm still saying big people is critical. So from

723
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: that standpoint, it makes all the sense of the world.

724
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Speaker 3: The value I think is fair. And then what really

725
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: made me happy is Walker Little went out and played

726
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: a great game against against two really good pass rushers,

727
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: and he was good in the run game, he was

728
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: good in the pass game.

729
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: He got beat one time.

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Speaker 3: I will answered on a quick inside move. Thankfully the

731
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: ball is gone. Did not matter. As I said it

732
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: on this in the This Morning, and I've said it

733
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: multiple times, one of the worst thing that's ever happened

734
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: is all these people grating stuff and social media putting

735
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: videos up because a guy gets meat for one sack

736
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: and they think he's a bump. And I just want

737
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: to remind everyone listening, Walker Little and Anton Harrison will

738
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: get beat for sacks. That's gonna hapen. They're gonna give

739
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: up pressures. Everybody does, Piney Sewell, Trent Williams, Lane Johnson,

740
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: the best tackles in this game give up pressures. They

741
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: get beat at times. It's the NFL. Everybody does, does

742
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: I did, Anthony Munos did, everybody does. So you can't

743
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: judge a player based on one play. So he got

744
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: beat inside, okay, whatever, he was physical, he was physical

745
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: in the run game, and he had outstanding sets, and

746
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: he handled two really good pass rushers.

747
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: Okay.

748
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: And and I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you, Tony

749
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: on that he was really good on Sunday.

750
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna agree with you that the deal is fair.

751
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 5: But you can also spin it the other way.

752
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 6: And you say you're paying essentially a backup because that's

753
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 6: what he's been starter money, Pete.

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Speaker 3: That's why I thought the timing was interesting. Let him,

755
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Speaker 3: let him put together three more games, and then with

756
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: two or three games left, go get the deal done right.

757
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Speaker 5: And he even he even said he was surprised about it.

758
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 5: And here's a team, here's a team, by the way,

759
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: that always says they don't do deals during the season.

760
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Speaker 3: Well, that's what we were told last year with Josh

761
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: heines Allen. Why it didn't get done.

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Speaker 5: And if they had done the deal during the season,

763
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Speaker 5: he would have they would have paid saved some money

764
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Speaker 5: by doing the deal during the season.

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Speaker 3: I think they would have saved significant money if they

766
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Speaker 3: would have done so.

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Speaker 5: Now now you can look at it from that stamp point.

768
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Speaker 6: They wait, they they didn't do it with Josh heines Allen,

769
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Speaker 6: and it cost him a boatload of money.

770
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Speaker 5: So ultimately that was a mistake. And now you're rushing

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Speaker 5: to give a guy who says twenty two starts as

772
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 5: a backup starter money. That's starting that's quality starter money.

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Speaker 9: That's a great starter money quality, So it makes and

774
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 9: and by the way, who did the deal, who did

775
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 9: the deal, who rushed to.

776
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Speaker 5: Do the deal?

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Speaker 3: I know my theory on it, I don't know. I

778
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: assumed Trent because he's the GM, so I assume.

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Speaker 6: And if your Trent and you drafted him, doesn't that

780
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 6: make you look better if you're rewarding a guy you

781
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: drafted that contract.

782
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going to speculate on the you can't speculate

783
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into that. I will say this,

784
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: I agree with Pete on the timing. I thought it

785
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: was curious. I was shocked because I thought it was

786
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: a policy of Trent Balky that he does not negotiate

787
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: deals during the season with players. I'm not.

788
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

789
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: I have no problem with the like negotiating or not negotia.

790
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: I have like, no real strong opinion either way. I'm

791
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: just saying that's what was stated, and so that surprised me.

792
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: But I'll say this, Pete right, fifteen million dollars quality starter.

793
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: I actually think Walker Little will be a quality long

794
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: term starter. I think I think at the in the

795
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: middle of year two of this deal, we're gonna look

796
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: around and say, man, we got a good deal. We

797
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: gotta But.

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00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: Again, why not wait until the end of the season.

799
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Speaker 3: I agree with that, Pete. I don't the timing. I

800
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 3: don't understand next week.

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00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: By next week you might change your tune.

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00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I will. But I know what you're saying.

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 5: It has.

804
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: You know, bad football.

805
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: Left a lot of football. I don't know why the rush.

806
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 6: That's why that's why I come into play and throw

807
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 6: out my theories out there.

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00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: Here's the other part of that equation, Tony, If Trent

809
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: did the deal, does that mean he's stay.

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00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about Mason Smith in that next segment,

811
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: because we'll come back in a moment.

812
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: We got to get to Mason Smith finally out there

813
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: and playing defense. We got a whole another hour too.

814
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: By the way, Tony, got a lot going on here.

815
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: I can't get away forever. Got a lot, a lot happening,

816
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: A lot happened. Two and ten football team.

817
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 3: Just bad, bad football, just bad, so bad.

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00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: Plenty ahead. Shag Wars Happy Hour presented by jenhome Loans.

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Speaker 8: Super excited about it. I love Jacksonville. I love this

820
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 8: I love this team, of the group of guys, all

821
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Speaker 8: the people I get to come to work with every day.

822
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 8: I really love the city, so I always wanted to

823
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 8: stay here. Obviously, going into a contract you this year,

824
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 8: didn't know if it would happen or not. But I

825
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 8: was really glad We're able to work something out and

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna be able to be here for a few

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Speaker 8: more years.

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Speaker 2: Walker Little the media today on a zoom call. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Final minutes of the first hour,

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,160
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834
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835
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Speaker 2: Com Slash Pro Bowl. All right, final few minutes here

836
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: and Mason Smith active and playing. That was the big change,

837
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: one of the changes on defense, I suppose yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But the rookie out of LSU, how do you go Listen,

839
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: He's a big, powerful dude and he's not moved easily.

840
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: He works down the line of scrimmage well, used his

841
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: hands well, is the ability to push the pocket. I'm

842
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: not saying that was the best part of his game yesterday,

843
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 3: but he is. I can see what they love about

844
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: him and the potential there. The question is can he

845
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: put it together week in week out and can he

846
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: mature to learn to be a pro because if he can,

847
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: there's a chance to be a heck of a player.

848
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the tools.

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00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: That's a powerful man, very.

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00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: Powerful, and he did some really nice things in the game.

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00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: I was impressed and watching the tape. I came away impressed.

852
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: I look, does he have does he have the tools

853
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: to like the disengage yet?

854
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 6: Probably not, you know, the hands and all that, but man, Tony,

855
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: he got into some of those guys and pushed them

856
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 6: and pushed them around. And those are I mean, it

857
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 6: was some powerful guys he was pushing around. And that

858
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 6: one player put out on Twitter in the Run Game

859
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 6: that was I think Titus Howell was Yeah, and he

860
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 6: just mauled them and came down the line. And there

861
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: were other plays in the Run Game where he made

862
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 6: some plays and he pushed the pocket a little bit

863
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: in the past protection. I like what I saw from him.

864
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 6: I was pleasantly surprised and plays the game with power

865
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 6: that they don't normally have inside.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I was really impressed with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, and I mean we need that.

868
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you draft a guy in the second round,

869
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: he needs to be a starter and an impactful starter

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00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: on your team. I'm not saying his rookie year, but

871
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: like next year, he needs to be like one of

872
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: the he needs to be the dude.

873
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: And and if he's the dude, and if he's the dude,

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00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: that means three of.

875
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 6: The four spots you have, dudes, and and that you know,

876
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 6: one thing I did notice they did change you notice

877
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 6: is to Tony they played a lot of five man

878
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 6: fronts on.

879
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: They really almost went back to their three to four

880
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: with Travon and uh Josh Allen standing up and they

881
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: brought three big guys inside and.

882
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: They instead is at at not an end he played

883
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: mostly a.

884
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: Tackle it earlier more early.

885
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, there were some changes on that, you know,

886
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 6: that's their internal changes that they decided to make.

887
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: I guess, And and granted I I still think alan

888
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: and and Walker are better with their hands on the

889
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: ground in a four man front, would you agree, Yes,

890
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 5: I do so, But at of necessity, I think they

891
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 5: went to what they did on Sunday.

892
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 6: And and they wanted it clearly. They wanted to stop

893
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: the run. I mean, they wanted to stop mixing. That's

894
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 6: what they wanted to do.

895
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and they early they did a great job. Yeah,

896
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: but as the game, as the game went on, they

897
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: got worn down and he had he popped some big

898
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: ones and impactful ones and ended up getting over one

899
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: hundred yards. They only gave up one oh seven on

900
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: the ground four point three eight carry.

901
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 5: But he got most of that late in the game.

902
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, most of the fourth quarter.

903
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: We've got to come back. Hour one in the books,

904
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Speaker 2: Hour two coming up. Will keep it real fanatics, fan questions,

905
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Speaker 2: and go around the NFL. This is Jaguars Happy Our,

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Speaker 4: M m.

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Speaker 3: M.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I gave them. I didn't meet with them today.

910
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: I gave them, gave them. All they had to do

911
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: today was the facing, come in and get their lips

912
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: treatment and all that kind of stuff. I didn't meet

913
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Speaker 4: with them today. I won't meet with them tomorrow. Seeing

914
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: my Wednesday. Just want them to kind of, you know,

915
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: clear their heads of this one and and really let's

916
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Speaker 4: focus on focus on you know, Tennessee this week and

917
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Speaker 4: and these next five. But I'll say this after the game.

918
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a it's a locker room. That's you know,

919
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: they're they're hurting, they're disappointed, frustrated, they're scratching their heads

920
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: like like we all are trying to figure this thing out.

921
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: But it's a resilient group too. You know, they'll bounce

922
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 4: back on Wednesday. They'll they'll prepare, you know for Tennessee.

923
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 4: Another division game, you know, on the road, all that stuff,

924
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: and they'll bounce back. So, you know, a couple of

925
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: days here to kind of think about it, put it

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Speaker 4: behind us and move forward.

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Speaker 2: I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today. Welcome back, second

928
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Speaker 2: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's Wings

929
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: before the game, after the game, and during the game.

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Speaker 2: We're on ten ten xcel Amjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube

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Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour, j ap Shadwick, Hall of Famer

932
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. After

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Speaker 2: a Jaguars loss, fifth now in a row for the Jags,

934
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Speaker 2: this one a twenty three twenty defeat to the Houston Texans.

935
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Speaker 2: The Texans have won now ten of the last eleven

936
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Speaker 2: road games against.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars, including one of those.

938
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Speaker 5: We're on.

939
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: We're on to Tennessee. I get it.

940
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Jaguars eliminated from division title contention with yesterday's loss, they

941
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: would be officially eliminated from any postseason contention with the

942
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Speaker 2: Broncos win tonight. Trevor Lawrence is in the concussion protocol

943
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Speaker 2: after a nasty hit from Texans linebacker a zi's al Shair,

944
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Speaker 2: who has since apologized, at least to a post.

945
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Speaker 3: We'll see what the league thinks about it.

946
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: I got tackle Walker Little extended prior to yesterday's game,

947
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: and how five games ago, three in the division, including

948
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Speaker 2: this week's trip to Nashville to face the Tennessee Titans.

949
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Speaker 2: Here we are two and ten.

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00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: That hurts. It does doesn't feel good, Pete.

951
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 5: No, it's it's not a good team.

952
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 6: They've had a lot of stuff go on this year

953
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: and and let's be real, changes are coming. Just a

954
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 6: matter of what changes are coming, you know, And Tony,

955
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 6: in watching the tape, you mentioned that Walker Little played well.

956
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 6: I thought Anton Harrison did a nice job at right tackling.

957
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 6: I did too, And and you know across the board

958
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 6: there was protection and the run game. Mitch Morris had

959
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: a rough goal of at the run game. He did

960
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 6: not play well in the run game. He good in

961
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Speaker 6: pass protection, but he wasn't good in the run game.

962
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Speaker 6: Would you agree with me?

963
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: Yes? I thought the Jags overall struggled. I mean, they

964
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: had the one after Trevor got hit where they that

965
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: was all runs, that one mowing them down. But come on,

966
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 3: mowing them down. They're four or five until they didn't.

967
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: They got like there was like okay, fair enough. There

968
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: was like four or five plays in a row where

969
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 3: they were getting you know, four or five six a pop,

970
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: and then it stopped. Yeah where did that go? They

971
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 3: last that drive?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

973
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

974
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: And again the center wasn't good in the run game.

975
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Speaker 6: And again that goes back to something that's been a

976
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 6: problem for them for a couple of years. And he's

977
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Speaker 6: been good in past protecting. I haven't been great in

978
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Speaker 6: the run game last month. And you wonder if he's

979
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Speaker 6: coming back. I mean, I haven't been told or anything,

980
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 6: but you know, you know we talk about the right

981
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: guard in the center that those guys who knows if

982
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Speaker 6: they're coming, they're they're veterans.

983
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Speaker 5: You never know.

984
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Speaker 3: Yeah, our backs had twenty carries for seventy four yards.

985
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 2: It's not good.

986
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Speaker 5: No, it's not enough.

987
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 6: There is a couple of things on that offense that

988
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 6: are optimistic.

989
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: Though. Brian Thomas going to be a superstar.

990
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: Okay, he will be.

991
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 5: He will be. He will be. So you think he's

992
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 5: a true Yes, he's a chase Yes, yes, I do.

993
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 6: Why, Well, he can run a he can. His hands

994
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 6: are outstand by the way. I know he's had a

995
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 6: couple of drugs. Going up and making that play in

996
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 6: the end zone was great play. He caught the one

997
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 6: on the sideline. He was I mean, he wouldn't get

998
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 6: his feet in, but he made a great play on that.

999
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 5: But he gets open and he can run. I mean

1000
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: the crosser, he ran away from everybody.

1001
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 6: That's the kind of play that they hadn't that was

1002
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 6: new to their playbook in a certain part of it

1003
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 6: was a man and man situation.

1004
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 5: Had a pick came across. Boom loved it.

1005
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 6: They gotta get him the football more, and I think

1006
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 6: they made a concerted effort to do that.

1007
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 5: He's going to be a superstar. Parker Washington can run

1008
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: routes that might be one of the most improved route

1009
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 5: runners in this league over the course of year. Won

1010
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: the year two.

1011
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: And he's outstanding after the catch running the ball because

1012
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: he's physical. He's not fast, he's physical and he's elusive.

1013
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 5: What did he end up with yesterday, because he.

1014
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 3: Had he had over one hundred I got it right here.

1015
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: He had Parker washing six for one oh three seventeen

1016
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: yards of catch, one touchdown.

1017
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: But he left some out there. He had twelve targets

1018
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 2: in the game. Touchdown, left corner couldn't make the catch.

1019
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: It was too high, left corner, was it?

1020
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? That was yeah, that was too high.

1021
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like right here. No, that was.

1022
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 5: A bad throw, BA throw. Okay, he could have been

1023
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 5: gumby and he wasn't catching.

1024
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 3: No, you can't put that on him all right, anyway,

1025
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: but six didn't get caught. That's my point.

1026
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: But I love the here's the thing, you're tough. If

1027
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 6: Christian Kirk hadn't been hurt, they probably would have traded.

1028
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: Him, Little Christian.

1029
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: Yes, there was rumors that they were going to trade him.

1030
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 6: And if now the way Parker Washington is playing, they're

1031
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 6: basically the same kind of guy.

1032
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: Do you need both of them?

1033
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: Uh? I know which one's less expensive? Of course, of

1034
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: course I'll say this. I don't think that's a priority

1035
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: as you think about how you're gonna how you need

1036
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: to build it. H When I say a prior priority decision,

1037
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's like get a receiver right.

1038
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 6: Or go out and get a pass catcher because you

1039
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 6: don't need any You don't need any of them.

1040
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: No, this team needs more speed on defense, and they

1041
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: need more big people, man, I mean that's what they need.

1042
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 5: You need another corner.

1043
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the fun. The interesting thing is there was

1044
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: all the talk this offseason, preseason, how the safeties were

1045
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: positioned to strength. Oh yeah, Cisco going into a contract.

1046
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: Cisco got PONEO. Johnson's gonna play and step up finally and.

1047
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: Cisco got pinched and he g They put him back

1048
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: in because of injury because on the on.

1049
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 5: The Savage got hurt.

1050
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: Savage ye. On the deep ball, Uh well, Jarry and

1051
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: Jones got kicked out, so now Savage had to play

1052
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: Nickels right, but.

1053
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 5: He also got it digged up in the game too.

1054
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. But before that, that's when Cisco came back in

1055
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: because you had to put you had to put Savage

1056
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: at Nickel. Yeah, on the deep one that c J.

1057
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 3: Stroud was late to tank Dell where he had run

1058
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: by everybody.

1059
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he jumped underneath.

1060
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: It was because he jumped underneath. He has middle, he

1061
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: has middle third.

1062
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 5: Right, he jumped. He jumped.

1063
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: He jumped that route like I'm gonna go get an

1064
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: interception because he looked he stared that way first, and

1065
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 6: then he jumped that thing and then wide open in

1066
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: the middle of the field and.

1067
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 3: You could see Darby just going, what in the heck

1068
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: are you doing? And he got pulled.

1069
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: And he's had a bad year.

1070
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 6: Let's be real, yea for a contract year for a

1071
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 6: guy who was going to cash in on a contract.

1072
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 6: He hadn't cashed in on it, and he's certainly not

1073
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 6: going to get a contract to Jacksonville.

1074
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 3: Well, you thought that the safety was straight. Now you're looking,

1075
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: we need safeties in her corner. You need safeties.

1076
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 5: Here's the thing about safeties, telling.

1077
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 3: You need you need, you need interior d lineman.

1078
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: But here here's the thing about safeties.

1079
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 6: You look around the league and some of the guys

1080
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 6: that are playing the best football.

1081
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: Were other teams cast offs.

1082
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 3: Pete, I agree with you, by the way. I don't

1083
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: think like safety, you're not drafting a guy in the

1084
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: first round or second round or anything like that.

1085
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 5: But I mean, like watch Denver tonight. They got the

1086
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 5: kid from Miami Jones. They let him go.

1087
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 6: He's played really well for him. Julian Love in Seattle,

1088
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 6: Giants let him go. He played really well for him.

1089
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 6: You know, Bayer was a failure in Philadelphia, but he's

1090
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 6: been better for Chicago. You look around the league and

1091
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: that's you got to find one of those guys and

1092
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: then maybe draft one in the fifth rifts.

1093
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 5: Get lucky and get a playmaker in the fifth or

1094
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: sixth round.

1095
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 3: Well, and you hope Antionio Johnson can develop. Right, he's

1096
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: still young. Because he's a young guy, he's got athletic I.

1097
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: Don't know if he's got the instincts for.

1098
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: That though, and he might not be. I don't know,

1099
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: but maybe he plays more down the stretch. I don't know.

1100
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 6: But you can find a guy in the fifth or

1101
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 6: sixth you know, you look around like the Mustapha kid

1102
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: that the forty nine ers found, that a wake forest

1103
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 6: in the in the fifth round.

1104
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 5: I mean, you can find guys.

1105
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 6: So you get a veteran, you get him, but you

1106
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 6: can fix that position the corner they need. They need

1107
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 6: an athletic corner in the worst way. I mean Darby

1108
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 6: and worked, they need an athletic corner.

1109
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 5: If you can get a like an elite, whether you draft,

1110
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: you're not gonna draft. I wouldn't draft in the first round,

1111
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: but you can maybe you could do.

1112
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 6: But if you get one of those guys, pair him

1113
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 6: with Campbell and Jerry Jones playing the nickel. Then you

1114
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 6: have a nice young nucleus of guys.

1115
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I got I got a draft question for him.

1116
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: No, no, don't do it, Tony.

1117
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 5: Don't do it. I got him.

1118
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: It was like I saw a coup.

1119
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: Of a mile away.

1120
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: You fell right into it.

1121
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm not This isn't about whether we picked this person

1122
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: or that. It's a question I'm asking Pete because I

1123
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: need to be prepared for next week when we are

1124
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: talking draft. So this is not us picking this individual

1125
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: or not.

1126
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: It's just it's just in a group. Any team, yeah,

1127
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 5: any team.

1128
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: Is Travis Hunter a corner or wide receiver in the league.

1129
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 5: I think he's a corner. Okay, I think he's a

1130
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 5: corner who can play wide receive.

1131
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: Is he an elite corner?

1132
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: He's pretty darn good.

1133
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying he's not. I just I haven't

1134
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: watched him enough.

1135
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 5: But and I'm gonna put a big butt on this.

1136
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 6: They can't you Jacksonville or the Giants or whoever could

1137
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 6: not take him in that spot and number one?

1138
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no again, go back to the Theory or

1139
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 5: New England even if they had.

1140
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 6: The number pick or whoever, you you you need to

1141
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 6: get big guys. Come on, you need to get the

1142
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: new England. They need offensive Lineman's.

1143
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: Not a new offensive line draft Pete.

1144
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 6: No, I know, but that's gonna gonna It's gonna challenge

1145
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 6: your scouting department. And I'm gonna go to the Vikings.

1146
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 6: Christian Darresol went in the twenties. Christian Darasol is the

1147
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 6: Vikings are a different team. When Christian Darasol is not

1148
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 6: on the field. You need to you need to challenge

1149
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 6: your scouting department to find that guy.

1150
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: That's what you need to do.

1151
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 6: You know, you go back to that draft Slater good,

1152
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 6: good left tackle, you get you have to.

1153
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: Hey, the Eagles found my lotta didn't they?

1154
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: You got you not? I agree with you. I was

1155
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: really curious about Travis Hunter because I hear so much

1156
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: about him and I see highlights of him, and he's obvious,

1157
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: see a special athlete. I assume he can run like

1158
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: the wind.

1159
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 5: He's special. He's a special player. But but Tony, Okay,

1160
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 5: now that Jacksonville we are talking a little bit about

1161
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: the jet But now that Jacksonville is signed Walker Little.

1162
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 6: And they're not going to draft the tackle in the

1163
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: first round. No, so that takes that completely out of

1164
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 6: the book. You're not going to take a guard in

1165
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 6: the first round, well.

1166
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: Not with the not with the you know, top five pick,

1167
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: you're not.

1168
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: Of course, so that takes that out of the equation.

1169
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: So now you're not. Now you're not drafted a big

1170
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: guy in the first round.

1171
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: Is there any dominant defensive lineman out there in this draft?

1172
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: Well, the kid from Michigan I think is great, Mason Graham.

1173
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Is that fifty five? Yes, yeah, good player, but.

1174
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 6: He's only like I think he's only like sixty two

1175
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 6: or six three. But that doesn't matter. That kid is

1176
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 6: going to be a big time player. But can you

1177
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 6: take him number one overall?

1178
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 5: If you had that? No more. But that's what they

1179
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 5: have to find.

1180
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Fine, because if is there any quarterbacks people want? Are

1181
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: clamoring to get corners?

1182
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: No?

1183
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 6: Quarter Yeah you might, you might be able to work

1184
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 6: out of that. If you're number one, you can work

1185
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 6: down and let somebody go up and gets your door

1186
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 6: Sanders or cam Ward or somebody else.

1187
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: How about the kid from Old miss Is he a

1188
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: top Jackson Dart? Yeah?

1189
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, the kid I haven't.

1190
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: Watched any I mean I watched USC and the kid

1191
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: at the kid at.

1192
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 6: We should watch Arizona State. They're in the championship game,

1193
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 6: the kid and by the way, JP.

1194
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 5: If AFU wins their their playoff game, they're a conference

1195
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 5: championship game. Next week they'll be in and Alabama will

1196
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 5: be home watching. Just let you know.

1197
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 6: But no, the quarterback from Mandarin, Carson Beck went into

1198
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 6: the years the number one overall guy and kind of

1199
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 6: played himself.

1200
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 5: Out of it a little.

1201
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so last question on this and then we can

1202
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: please move forward. Yeah, I'm just curious.

1203
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm you broke your.

1204
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: Own rule, man, I mean, I'm actually stunned by this.

1205
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's six hours from now, it'll be it's

1206
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 5: a moot point.

1207
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying who were picking. I'm trying to prepare

1208
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: for next week. So I understand the big question to

1209
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: me is because it's so last question on Travis Hunter.

1210
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm fascinated by this guy. Fascinated. He's amazing the

1211
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: condition and like the will to be out there in

1212
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: a in an era where guys are getting substituted right

1213
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: and left. This guy goes every snap and he's like good.

1214
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: So is he as good as Sauce Gardener coming out

1215
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: at corner, because you remember here we took Tray Vaughn

1216
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: and then the Lions took.

1217
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 5: Hutchinsonson Sauce one four?

1218
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: Was it three or four?

1219
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 5: I thought he went four.

1220
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 3: Okay, he's early top five.

1221
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could trade down and get and take like

1222
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 5: Hunter is he?

1223
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 6: That is the satuation. You get Hunter and you play

1224
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 6: him a corner. You could use him as a wide receiver.

1225
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, is he's as good as Sauce as

1226
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 3: a prospect coming out?

1227
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: Is he as good as watch his tape. I've just

1228
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 5: watched his games, but watching his games.

1229
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 6: And I would say, yes, Okay, he tackles better than

1230
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 6: saw Scar Sauce Scarterer doesn't tackle anybody.

1231
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I like about that kid

1232
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: from what I've seen and watched his interviews and the

1233
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: fact that he plays every snap. He's a competitor, and

1234
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: I think one of the things, regardless of you know,

1235
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: all good and great players having competitive drive that's off

1236
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: the charts. There's like an internal thing that they want

1237
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: to be great, they want to win, and I just

1238
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: don't I've never met the kid, I've seen interviews, but

1239
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: the fact that he does what he does tells me

1240
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: he is a ultimate competitor.

1241
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 5: And you can never taking themselves out of the offensive

1242
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: line market in the draft.

1243
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 6: They just have so that I that I disagree with that.

1244
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: I disagree with that.

1245
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 5: What do you mean it takes them out of the

1246
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: tackle market.

1247
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the first round, right, they draft? Last year they.

1248
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 5: Did foster, so it takes them out of it takes

1249
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 5: them in the first round or first two rounds. It

1250
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 5: takes them out of the tackle market.

1251
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: Not the tackle market. But I listen, would you be

1252
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: against loading up on centers and guards and DT's in

1253
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: the first three rounds?

1254
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 5: No, no, I would not neither. But defensive tackle has

1255
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 5: to be at play too.

1256
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: Let the record reflect that this Monday, December second, was

1257
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: when we started talking about the draft and the Jaguars.

1258
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: Are not eliminated yet and it wasn't my decision.

1259
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 6: For the record, Well, they technically will be by tonight,

1260
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 6: so it's the same day, the same day they aren't.

1261
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: Right now, In my defense, we did not talk about

1262
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: the Jaguars and who they should pick. You literally just

1263
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: did No, I did not.

1264
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: You just talked about are they in the tackle market?

1265
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, they are like, yeah, what.

1266
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I broke the role there. I was curious about

1267
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: Travis hun.

1268
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 6: I tricked them, and you know what, the fans are

1269
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 6: thrilled that we did. So thank me, fans. I got

1270
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 6: them to talk about the draft.

1271
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: We've got a rating spike there is that what we

1272
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 3: were saying, Pete.

1273
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 6: Way through the roof. That's why people don't care about

1274
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 6: next week's game. They care about the draft.

1275
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's come back and talk about next week's games

1276
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: and the five remaining. We'll keep it real when we return,

1277
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: because it's been fake for an hour and seventeen minutes for.

1278
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: A long time, for years.

1279
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: In fact, mister Chubby's Wings, we had the Chicken Caesar rap,

1280
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: we had the Chubby style wings, we had French fries

1281
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: and cheese sauce, and it was fantastic. Thanks to mister

1282
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Chubby's Wings. Each and every Monday for the food options

1283
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: for our production staff. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

1284
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: mister Chubby's Wings.

1285
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it was just it was a dirty hit.

1286
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 10: I think obviously those hits always in question. Travel was

1287
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 10: going down and it's just I saw out on my peripheral.

1288
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 10: I got a pretty clear view of it, and at

1289
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 10: that moment, just instinct was just it just didn't feel

1290
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 10: like a clean hit, so he just go stick off

1291
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 10: from my quarterback.

1292
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Devin Ingram Jaguars tight end in the locker room after

1293
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: the game and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,

1294
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: Tony Bisselli, Pete Frisco. Time now for Keeping it Real,

1295
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: presented by Nobody, and the Jaguars have five games remaining

1296
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: in the regular year. They have been eliminated from division

1297
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: title contention, and a Denver Broncos win tonight would eliminate

1298
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: them from any playoff contention. With five games to go

1299
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: three in the division, what is a general approach moving

1300
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: ahead over the last five games?

1301
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: They how do they keep this thing together and move forward?

1302
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: Pete, Well, if you lose all five, you have the

1303
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 6: number one overall picks and so that's a big win

1304
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 6: for him.

1305
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 5: No, I'm kidding, you play to win.

1306
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 6: No, the best case scenario and I'm gonna be real

1307
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 6: about it. The best case scenario is young players like

1308
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 6: Mason Smith and you know those kind of players go

1309
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 6: in and play well down the stretch and get the

1310
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 6: experience and get some on the field experience that they need,

1311
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 6: and you still lose the games, that's the.

1312
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 5: Best case scenario. Then you can't talk to me until

1313
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 5: you're blue in the face about winning games and feeling good.

1314
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 5: And the best case scenario from a fans perspective and

1315
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 5: from the organization's perspective, they would never admit that is

1316
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 5: if you get young players playing well and playing better

1317
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 5: and yet still lose the games.

1318
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: Do you think they lose all five?

1319
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 5: Well, it's tennis. Give me the schedule again.

1320
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 3: It's Tennessee, Tennessee, Jets, Jets, Raiders, Raiders, Tennessee and Indy.

1321
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 6: No, I don't because I think I think the Jets

1322
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 6: are horrendous. I mean, the Jets had kickoff return for

1323
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 6: a touchdown, they lost minute lost, No, no, they had

1324
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 6: a kickoff return for a touchdown. Two fumbled kickoffs by

1325
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 6: Leviscas Chanol by the way, and set them up point

1326
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 6: playing range. They had a twenty one to seven lead,

1327
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 6: we're going in to make it twenty eight to seven,

1328
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 6: and Aaron Rodgers to a pick six to Leonard Williams.

1329
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 6: And so they're not very good right now, and they're

1330
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 6: not playing for anything, So I think they might beat

1331
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: the Jets.

1332
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: That's one because I don't see the Giants win in

1333
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: another game.

1334
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 5: Pete. They're pretty bad, aren't they. Yeah, they're bad, So yeah,

1335
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 5: you might be right.

1336
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 6: But then the Giants that wouldn't really impact the Jacksonville.

1337
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 6: But because the Giants will take a quarterback, Jacksonville will not.

1338
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 6: So if you're at number two, you can still trade

1339
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 6: that pick to somebody else who wants to go get

1340
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 6: one of the other quarterbacks.

1341
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: Well, the Raiders need a quarterback, they need a quarterback,

1342
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: but they're better with Aiden O'Connell and I think they

1343
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: win a game or two.

1344
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 6: Right, So so Jacksonville could end up still number two.

1345
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 6: Even if you win one. They'll win one. They'll win one.

1346
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 5: They might win two, but they'll win one.

1347
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: Jack's Raiders head to head, by the way, coming up,

1348
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: this could be impactful.

1349
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 5: Again.

1350
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 6: I know you kill I know you kill me when

1351
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 6: I say stuff like that, But the reality is that's

1352
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 6: that's that's the way it is, and and no game,

1353
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 6: winning a game down the stretch just carrying over.

1354
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 5: It's not gonna give you good feelings because.

1355
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 6: It's probably going to be an entirely new group and

1356
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 6: so nothing will carry over, zero, none of it so

1357
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. But players getting experience and playing and

1358
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 6: growing that will carry over.

1359
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: Pete, they if they were to lose them and get

1360
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: the number one pick, they'd be the first team ever

1361
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: with three number one overall picks in a five year span.

1362
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you could put that on a billboard

1363
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 5: or put it on a plane and fly it over

1364
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 5: the city and you still might not have a change.

1365
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,959
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, are we serious?

1366
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 5: Could you think about that? You could pick first overall

1367
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 5: three of the last five years.

1368
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it never happens.

1369
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 5: It screams disaster.

1370
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: It's never happened.

1371
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 5: There's a reason.

1372
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 6: It's never happened. Usually when you get them, you do

1373
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 6: something with them, and your team changes its fortunes. Come on,

1374
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 6: but let's give the backup left tackle a new deal

1375
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 6: and make it look good because I drafted him.

1376
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't say that.

1377
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1378
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 3: The interesting thing is that I remember at the beginning

1379
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: the year, we were talking about these last five games

1380
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 3: like the winnable.

1381
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the back end, and it's the

1382
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: second easiest strength to schedule over the last six weeks

1383
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: of the season, by the way, in the NFL.

1384
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: But I watched the Titans on tape last week. That's

1385
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 3: a good defense.

1386
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 5: They were bad yesterday, though we weren't good yesterday. They

1387
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 5: weren't good yesterday, and but they turned.

1388
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: They fumbled the ball twice once Pollard fumbled a point

1389
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 6: blank range and then they fumbled the kickoff and that

1390
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 6: lended fourteen. But you know how that can get away

1391
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 6: from you a little bit, But that they weren't great yesterday.

1392
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: The little bit of tape I've watched that Texas kids sweat.

1393
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: My goodness, he's a big, powerful him and Jeffrey Simmons

1394
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: on the interior. That d Lion's like nasty. Got your

1395
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: hands full, Tody.

1396
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 6: Somebody when I was there, somebody told me a story

1397
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 6: about him. You know he was They want him about

1398
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 6: like three fifty ish or whatever, three forty five ish,

1399
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 6: and so during the off season they had him, got

1400
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 6: him a dietitian because he was up near three to

1401
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 6: seveny or whatever. He got a dietitian and he was

1402
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 6: doing well, and they watched him walking out. One of

1403
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 6: the guys bumped in and he said, what do you do?

1404
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 6: And he had like eight gator rades, not the sugar

1405
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 6: free kinie, the regular kind with his little Dietitian meal

1406
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 6: and he was taking it home and they go, well,

1407
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 6: kind of defeats the purpose.

1408
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 5: Of you eating the meal like that when you're drinking

1409
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 5: eight of those and I just full of sugar. Yeah.

1410
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 5: So but he is a good player, and you know

1411
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: Simmons is a good player. Narden Kee can rush the passer.

1412
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: And Harold what's that Harold Bandry.

1413
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1414
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 6: The problem is the back end has been you know,

1415
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 6: Sneed's been hurt. One good all year and then got hurt.

1416
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 6: He's out, and they haven't been great on the back

1417
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 6: end and they give up a lot of big plays.

1418
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 5: Levice has gotten a lot better the last four weeks

1419
01:11:59,560 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: he's been.

1420
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: Actually, I watched the tape of him against the Texans

1421
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 3: the last the week before.

1422
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, he threw the one pick six was a terrible throw,

1423
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 5: but other than that, he was pretty good.

1424
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: He made some throws.

1425
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 5: I was like, he got beat the death in that game.

1426
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: He did, but he made some great throws. So, I mean,

1427
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: my whole point is when you're two and ten, none

1428
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: of them are easy. The texts and then the Titans

1429
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: have a strong front seven physical, It's gonna be a

1430
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: good test. Will Levis is playing better.

1431
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 5: And Mac Jones is playing, probably playing.

1432
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: Probably and the last game of the other culture gonna

1433
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: be playing for the wildcard most likely.

1434
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 5: We'll know next We'll know next week because they play

1435
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 5: at Denver.

1436
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: If they beat the Broncos, they're in it. I mean

1437
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: they're right now.

1438
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 5: If they beat the Broncos. If they beat the Broncos,

1439
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 5: their schedule is favorable, they might beat be the wildcard team.

1440
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: Yep.

1441
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,480
Speaker 5: But so but here, Look.

1442
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 6: The bottom line is they might win Anny, but they

1443
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 6: could win one or two.

1444
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: Wow do you shut down Trevor.

1445
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: So that was part of the conversation today during the

1446
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: press conference for Doug Peterson. As we mentioned before, he said, Hey,

1447
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: we'll let him get through the protocol. We'll see where

1448
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: the team's at. Make a decision. You want to. You

1449
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: still have some have something to fight for, but you

1450
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: gotta have long term look.

1451
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: At his health as well. So here's I mean. For me,

1452
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: it's pretty simple. The concussion's gonna take whatever time it does.

1453
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: I had to be shocked if he plays this week.

1454
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: Me too, I mean absolutely shocked based on how his

1455
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: body responded at the moment of the concussion. So I'd

1456
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 3: be shocked. So does anything change if you beat the Titans,

1457
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, and he's ready to play.

1458
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: No.

1459
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 6: But here's the other part of that equation, Tony. You

1460
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 6: probably he proved to a lot of people, and not

1461
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: that he has to prove to anybody outside of the building,

1462
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 6: but he proved to his teammates that he cares and

1463
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 6: he wants to play by playing last week, by going

1464
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 6: in there and playing. Look, the shoulder isn't the throwing shoulder,

1465
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 6: but the pain has to be brutal on that and

1466
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 6: so he could have easily just said no, I'm gonna

1467
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 6: shut it down. But I think he decided to play

1468
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 6: in large part to show his teammates, Look, this is

1469
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 6: what I care for you guys, and I want to

1470
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 6: show you that.

1471
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 5: I can tough this out. And sometimes to a fault,

1472
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 5: he does that, but he did it. Now that he

1473
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 5: did that and showed them, Now shut him down. Now

1474
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 5: shut him down.

1475
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 6: Concussion shoulder. Maybe he needs some clean up surgery on

1476
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 6: the shoulder. Get it done, do it. Shut him down.

1477
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 6: There's no reason he plays the rest of the year.

1478
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 5: Zero.

1479
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 6: He got a quarter of a billion dollars invested in

1480
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 6: that guy. You're gonna build the entire thing around him.

1481
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 6: Shut him the hell down. Enough done, don't play anymore?

1482
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 3: Does it?

1483
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 5: Pet?

1484
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 3: Is it concerning? This is back to back years of

1485
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 3: injuries for Trevor. That's forcing them miss time.

1486
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 6: Yes, Whenever anybody has And I'm gonna use Christian McCaffrey

1487
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 6: as example, he had a pattern of injuries.

1488
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 5: With guys, they start getting concerned.

1489
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey's been hurt like a bunch in his career

1490
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 6: and now he's hurt again. And so when you see

1491
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 6: patterns like that, there's no doubt it's concerning.

1492
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 5: So Yes, to answer your question, it is. And and

1493
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 5: the concussion I forgot that.

1494
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 6: There was one last year and now that's two years

1495
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 6: in a row and this one one. Yes, but the

1496
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 6: fencing showed up and that means it's it's accelerated a

1497
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 6: little bit.

1498
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 5: So that is concerning. Yes. Absolutely. By the way, he

1499
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 5: wasn't playing very well before he got knocked out of

1500
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 5: the game.

1501
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 6: Oh he was rusty and you could see it, and

1502
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 6: he and Tony there was a play I think where

1503
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 6: he left a clean pocket where he had Brian Thomas

1504
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 6: wide open and he didn't throw it to him, and

1505
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 6: you could see Thomas like kind of jump up and down.

1506
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 5: Did you see his body?

1507
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas has a tendency like all receivers to they're

1508
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 6: open every play, but he shows it a little bit,

1509
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 6: which I don't mind, but he does show it sometimes.

1510
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 6: You gotta be careful with that. You don't want to

1511
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 6: show up your quarterback. But you remember the play I'm

1512
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 6: talking about. He was and he left. There was nobody

1513
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 6: really rushing him, and he bailed. He bailed to the left.

1514
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 6: Now on the play where he got hit and hurt,

1515
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 6: there was nobody open on that play.

1516
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 5: He got out of there because he had to get

1517
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 5: out of there.

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Speaker 3: And show informations.

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Speaker 11: It's cool to know that when Mac comes in the game,

1529
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 11: that he trusts us.

1530
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 5: That's what it's all about.

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01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 11: And then like he's like I said, like earlier in

1532
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 11: the years, like it's all about building trust with your teammates.

1533
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 11: They continue to build on that, and it's exciting when

1534
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 11: like when he's in the game and the energy he

1535
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 11: brings and the confidence that he is still within us.

1536
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 11: So it's exciting. So we don't lose any faith or

1537
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 11: confidence when he's in the game.

1538
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: Parker Washington over one hundred yards receiving for the first

1539
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 2: time in his career yesterday and welcome back. It's Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour, the second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings,

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Speaker 2: J P. Shadwick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vasseli. Jaguars are two

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Speaker 2: and ten, five games to go, eliminated from division title contention,

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Speaker 2: and a Broncos win tonight would knock the Jaguars out

1544
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: of any playoff contention. Time now for the Fanatics fan questions.

1545
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,280
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1546
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,479
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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: Fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. It is Cyber Monday.

1548
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: Tony, you look excited about that I don't care, clearly no,

1549
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 3: But I'm saying about cyber Monday.

1550
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Pete, did you buy anything today?

1551
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 5: No? I did not.

1552
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: No you no.

1553
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 3: You know who cares about cyber Monday?

1554
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: My wife. You bought something, you just don't know it.

1555
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bottled a bunch of stuff.

1556
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: I love it's we put the cat signal out on X.

1557
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: Here's the best we come up with at the footfault guy.

1558
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the draft now? Well? I think

1559
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: we just did well.

1560
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 5: They were clamoring for it.

1561
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: Hold on, we did not go deep draft talk. We

1562
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: did a teaser, which is talking about the draft. No,

1563
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: it was a teaser. I was trying to get information.

1564
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 3: I didn't because Pete brought up the need for a

1565
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: corner and I had a question about college football player.

1566
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: You got hoodwinked, and to talk about that is what happened.

1567
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 5: I got him, I got him, might he might have

1568
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 5: got me. And you know what's even better about it

1569
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 5: is how mad JP got about it.

1570
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

1571
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1572
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 6: You set out, you set out the text this morning.

1573
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 6: What was my first response.

1574
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 3: To you draft?

1575
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1576
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: I said one word, like come on, we're too intent dude,

1577
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 3: I'm aware, but they're not officially eliminated.

1578
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 5: Well who made that damn rule? Anyways, Well you broke it.

1579
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 3: You broke your own Russ. That's what I'm more mad

1580
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 3: about it. You broke when I made the rule. I

1581
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: never imagined in a thousand years we'd be too inten.

1582
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 6: What And and this time last year they weren't good,

1583
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 6: but they were in the ra mix.

1584
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: Yes they were.

1585
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 6: The last time they've been out of the race is

1586
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 6: what two thousand and.

1587
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one.

1588
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: One?

1589
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they were out of the race in nineteen

1590
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: twenty and twenty one, eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one.

1591
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1592
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 3: Wow, they've been out of the race more than in

1593
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: the race.

1594
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 5: Well in their history too, Yes.

1595
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1596
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 5: Recently, somebody sent me a stat the other day.

1597
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 6: By the way, buddy of mine sent me a thing

1598
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 6: saying Jacksonville's never won a Week thirteen game in their history.

1599
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 5: Is that true?

1600
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 3: I have no idea, No, I guarantee that's not true.

1601
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 3: Because in ninety nine we lost Week two and Week fifteen.

1602
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 5: I thought that fightings game was later, yeah.

1603
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: Week fifteen, because it was we traveled on Christmas Day,

1604
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 3: it was the twenty sixth in Nashville.

1605
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was week sixteen.

1606
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, bye, we're sixteen fifteenth of the seasons.

1607
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 5: That can't be true. Can't be true.

1608
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: It's not true jag Wars beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in

1609
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 2: week thirteen that year, twenty to six.

1610
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not true that on the internet it.

1611
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: Must be true. Yeah right, you got a fast text stuff.

1612
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 5: Well I didn't. I just I said, somebody sent that

1613
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: to me. I didn't go look it up.

1614
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 3: You brought it on the air like it like you

1615
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: knew it was real.

1616
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 5: I said, somebody sent it to me. Is this is true?

1617
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 5: I said, I didn't say it was real.

1618
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: Somebody's wrong. Somebody's wrong.

1619
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: They are wrong.

1620
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 3: Next question at totally Chad.

1621
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: How would Tony have reacted to the hit on Trevor

1622
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: had he been on the team.

1623
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: Probably the same way Evan Ingram would have.

1624
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 5: I mean, you might have been more violent.

1625
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the only thing I yeah, I

1626
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 3: think I would have done. I mean, I guess this

1627
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 3: is go watch the tape when any time, like.

1628
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: What's the classic photo you in like four ratements on.

1629
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 3: Something, Let's go look at that. I mean so I

1630
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 3: would have lost my mind. Probably got thrown thrown out

1631
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: of the game well, because I never finished the story.

1632
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: So I got thrown out that game with Baltimore and

1633
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm walking and Jerry Palm, Mary's strength coach at the time.

1634
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: He's walking me to the locker room. And as I'm

1635
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 3: like halfway to the locker room, I hear Tom screaming

1636
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: at me get back in the game. And I said,

1637
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 3: they threw me out. He says, no, no, no they didn't.

1638
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: They reinstated You're back in. I'm like, okay, So I

1639
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: went back in finished the game.

1640
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: Are you like?

1641
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: Two or three years later, I see the official and

1642
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: I said, hey, well, first he comes up, he goes, hey, thanks.

1643
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 3: I go what He goes, you tore my labrom I'd

1644
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 3: have surgery Barbarian trying to break up the fight. And

1645
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: I said, dude, I'm sorry, my bad. He laughed, and

1646
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: I said I got.

1647
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 5: A question for you.

1648
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 3: I said, you guys threw me out and then you

1649
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: brought me back in and he says yeah. He says

1650
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: it was a late game. It was four o'clock game,

1651
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 3: and the we and if we throw someone out, there's

1652
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 3: a bunch of paperwork we have to do afterwards, and

1653
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 3: we would have missed the last flight out of Jacksonville.

1654
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if.

1655
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: That's true or not, but I would go.

1656
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 5: Did you and him compare toward Labram stories? No, I don't.

1657
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was because.

1658
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 5: You tore both yours, didn't you.

1659
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have been making it up, just making

1660
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: a funny story. It's a funny story. I don't know

1661
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 3: if it's true that, but I always wondered, Mike, how

1662
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: do how do you get uninjected?

1663
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 6: But Tony would have hit him that guy. You would

1664
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 6: have put your full body all. You would have nailed

1665
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 6: him in that scenario.

1666
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: I would have done the same thing Evan did when

1667
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 3: he took the shot first. But then I would would

1668
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 3: have got I would have gone on the ground and

1669
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: for him in the back of the head. And I'm

1670
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: thrown out. There's no doubt about it. I mean, I

1671
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 3: know me. Yeah, I mean, plus, we can do things

1672
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: back when I played that will get you thrown out today.

1673
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 5: Well, also that forum would have got you thrown out

1674
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 5: that he gave to Trevor either back twelve years.

1675
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: That would have been just It would have been a

1676
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: personal foul.

1677
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. One of the guys.

1678
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 6: After that hit Sunday, one of my producers called up.

1679
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 6: We were sitting in there watching the game. One of

1680
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 6: my guys called up, he goes, remember that old segment

1681
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 6: they used to do, jacked up. They showed one where

1682
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 6: one of the Chiefs quarterbacks got green.

1683
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 5: It wasn't greed, it was another time. It was a legal,

1684
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 5: dirty hit and the guy was exact same situation that

1685
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 5: Trevor was in where he fenced. You know, and nowadays,

1686
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 5: did you, Matt, You.

1687
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 6: Couldn't put that on there and start screaming about what

1688
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 6: a great hit it was.

1689
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 5: You can't do that anymore.

1690
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: Well, I mean here, I mean, the game is so different.

1691
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 3: Mike Singletary got the hit of the year on the

1692
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 3: exact same I thought. Now again, I don't know if

1693
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 3: this is true or not, but it was on X

1694
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: they showed a video of him taking the same s

1695
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: and just blowing up a quarterback, I mean, just knocking

1696
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: them out.

1697
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 5: The game is different.

1698
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 3: It's so different.

1699
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 6: I remember Mike Singletary played. It was different than it

1700
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 6: was twenty years ago. Before it was it was even worse.

1701
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 3: It was so I remember, no someone said it was

1702
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,879
Speaker 3: Dan or Jeff this morning. They said, that's the most violent,

1703
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,520
Speaker 3: nasty hit, cheap shot we've seen. I said, are you crazy?

1704
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 5: That was commonplace back in the day.

1705
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: Did you forget about James Harrison almost killing Colt McCoy,

1706
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: like literally almost killed.

1707
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: Them, which which one of the guys on your team

1708
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 6: took Keenan out with the dirty hit, greg Lloyd.

1709
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 5: Gregor lay Steelers.

1710
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 3: Yep, that start.

1711
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 5: Remember that story? You remember that story.

1712
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: I do remember that story. I started a little little

1713
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: uh well, pushing and shoving.

1714
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, Keith it remember he said Keenan called his house

1715
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 6: during the week and said stuff to this. Could you

1716
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 6: imagine could you imagine if that.

1717
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 5: That would be viral? It would be everywhere.

1718
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm gonna say something's probably controversial, but what the heck?

1719
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 3: I agree with the player safety stuff. It's smart. It's

1720
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: a tough game, and what the league is doing trying

1721
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 3: to take the head out protect both defenders and offensive

1722
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 3: players from unnecessary ridiculous injuries and head injuries and what

1723
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 3: we know about brain injuries today. Like, I get it,

1724
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: it's smart, but I'd be lying to you if I

1725
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: didn't miss the game. How I played it. It was

1726
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: just it was a different game. I'm not saying better,

1727
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: but maybe it's just because that's when I played. But

1728
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: you could do things like you talk about retribution. You

1729
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: could really get retribution back then, and you got it.

1730
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 3: You could start a fight knowing the worst thing that

1731
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 3: was gonna happened is you're gonna get offsetting fifteen yard penalty. Player, like,

1732
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: I remember that there was a play. You remember we

1733
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: played Pittsburgh once and uh like Levon Kirkland took a

1734
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: shot of Mark late in the out of bounds and

1735
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: I ran over there and hit him, and the fight starts,

1736
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: and all the officials did just break it up and say, hey,

1737
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 3: come down, guys, right back to them, go back to

1738
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 3: the hut.

1739
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 5: Would you award the Guardian cap?

1740
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 3: No, no, nope, Pete, I didn't barely like to wear

1741
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 3: shoulder pads.

1742
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: I played.

1743
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 5: I know you had little shoulder pads. I always remember that.

1744
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 3: So but and that was not Listen, this is not

1745
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: I want to be careful here because the guys today

1746
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: are tough as nails. So this isn't a toughness.

1747
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 5: This is no, it's not a toughness.

1748
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,839
Speaker 3: It's not a toughness.

1749
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 5: Guys would have been like you, guys, these guys wouldn't.

1750
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 3: Played the same way I played. And if I played

1751
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: in today's game, I'd be doing the same thing they're doing,

1752
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: because it's the it's the rules of the game, and

1753
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: you play in the air that you play in and

1754
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: it was it was nastier before I played generation before me.

1755
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: And so this is not about toughness. I want to

1756
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 3: be clear. And sometimes guys here like people hear us

1757
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 3: old guys talking. Oh man, if they playing, they'd be

1758
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: they be so much tougher than these guys. No, no, no, no,

1759
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 3: let me tell you what. Brandon Shaff tough guy, having

1760
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: Ingram tough guy.

1761
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, players are still tough.

1762
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 6: JP he'd still be butchering names if he had worn

1763
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 6: the Guardian cap, right.

1764
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that has nothing to do.

1765
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 3: That's not fine. You with the shots to the head,

1766
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 3: It's not fine. There you have it.

1767
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 2: Fanatics fan questions her in, let's come back and go

1768
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: around football plague. It's a pretty good one, Pete.

1769
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: I'll give you credit for that one.

1770
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: It's Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by mister Chevy Swings.

1771
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 12: Sports very emotional, especially when something like that happens, and

1772
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 12: we definitely came together as a team and fought hard,

1773
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 12: you know, for Trevor came up shore at the end.

1774
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 12: But I feel like the guys responded and obviously Trevor

1775
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 12: safety is the most important we out. I feel like

1776
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 12: we moved forward and tried to win.

1777
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 2: For Trevor mac Jones, Jaguars quarterback, came in relief of

1778
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Yesterday, Shaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's

1779
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: Wings by p Shadwick. Tony was selling from the Hunday

1780
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Studios Pete Risco down in South Florida and for eleven years,

1781
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,960
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1782
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1783
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: all the available inventory and go Jags go around the

1784
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: National Football League three Thanksgiving games, the Lions survived the Bears,

1785
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: and then the Bears fired their head coach twenty three

1786
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: twenty the final and that one Cowboys beat the Giants

1787
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty and then the Packers. I handled

1788
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: the and the cole and apparently Miami does know how

1789
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: to play below forty degrees thirty to seventeen. Packers win

1790
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: that one, Pete, but the Bears ran off Ebra flues.

1791
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and rightfully so.

1792
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 6: I mean coaching now, practice is what he had after

1793
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 6: at the end of that game.

1794
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 5: It was awful, but that's not it.

1795
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 6: Remember you go back to the Hail Mary met He

1796
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 6: messed that all up as well, and the players started

1797
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 6: squawking about him.

1798
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 5: It was time for him to know.

1799
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:26,839
Speaker 2: Cowboys still in it, Pete.

1800
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 6: They are still in it, and and they're you know,

1801
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 6: their schedule is not that tough. I mean, they have

1802
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 6: a couple of tough games, but they don't look like.

1803
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 5: A playoff team though. I mean, you know, come on,

1804
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 5: let's be real.

1805
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 6: If Dak Prescott was in there, maybe they're getting guys back,

1806
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 6: but they don't look like a playoffs.

1807
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 3: Is Mike McCarthy safe or is he going to get fired?

1808
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 4: Then?

1809
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 5: I think he's going to get I think he's safe.

1810
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna come back.

1811
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: He's a good coach. He's a good coach.

1812
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 5: He is a good coach. He should come back.

1813
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: Black Friday Chiefs over the Raiders nineteen seventeen, wild ending

1814
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: in this one too.

1815
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 3: Wild and just the Chiefs are they're so lucky, Pete.

1816
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean, good teams get luck. I mean get the

1817
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 3: ball bounces their way. And they're a good team. I'm

1818
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: not taking that away from them, but my goodness, you

1819
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 3: talk about yeah, you talk about malpractice of just handling

1820
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: the end of the game.

1821
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 5: The best thing that can happen to the Chiefs is

1822
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 5: getting DJ Humphreys healthy and put them in a left tackle.

1823
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 6: And will change the way they play. They will look

1824
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 6: like a different team. They cannot count he's sped up.

1825
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 6: Talk about a guy who's fed up. They cannot count

1826
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 6: on that left side to protect it all.

1827
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Well, they had at one point their left guard what's

1828
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 3: his name kicked out duck.

1829
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

1830
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

1831
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 5: And they drafted one.

1832
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 6: They drafted one last year in the second round and

1833
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 6: he was a failure when he went in.

1834
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Chargers beat the Falcons seventeen thirteen. I guess we'll find

1835
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: out about the Chargers next week when they played the Chiefs.

1836
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 3: I think that tould be a good game because the

1837
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 3: Chargers are physical, they're not real big upfront. I wouldn't

1838
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 3: be surprised if that's a heavy run game for the Chiefs.

1839
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:57,799
Speaker 5: Pete.

1840
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not big on the defensive line, but the

1841
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 6: their linebackers are small too.

1842
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: But they play smart, they play tough. I think that's

1843
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a close ball game.

1844
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 5: That'll be fun. That'll be a fun game.

1845
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: Steelers now nine and three of forty four to thirty

1846
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: eight win over the Bengals. Russell Wilson three touchdown passes

1847
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: four to fourteen through the air, and he threw a

1848
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: pick six in the first quarter.

1849
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, the receiver slipped down on that one, so it

1850
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 6: was kind of like it really wasn't his fault. But

1851
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 6: the Bengals, they're like the perfect a tonic for any

1852
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 6: team that's having problems throwing the football.

1853
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 5: They can't stop anybody.

1854
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow is having a great year. Good nothing

1855
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 3: for it.

1856
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 5: Nobody wants it.

1857
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 6: Nobody would want them in the postseason either, because they

1858
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 6: could get hot and he could get hot, and they

1859
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 6: could go on a run.

1860
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 3: They're not making the postseason, Pete, No, they're not not

1861
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 3: this way.

1862
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 2: Four and eight right now. Vikings over the Cardinals twenty

1863
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: three to twenty two. The Colts went for two and

1864
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 2: beat the Patriots twenty five twenty four.

1865
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 6: I like it, and Anthony Richardson's getting better. He's getting better.

1866
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta give him. They sat him down,

1867
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 6: they had to talk with him. They told him, look first,

1868
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 6: one last, one out and that's why you got to

1869
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 6: live it as an NFL quarterback. And he's doing it

1870
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 6: and he's gotten better. They played Denver next week. That'll

1871
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 6: decide their their playoff feet.

1872
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a good game too. I think yep,

1873
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 3: Seahawks beat the Jets. We discussed that briefly.

1874
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: Commanders blasted the Titans forty two to nineteen bucks over

1875
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: the Panthers twenty six to twenty three bucks. NFC South,

1876
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Are they the team Pete?

1877
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 5: They are?

1878
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 6: I think the schedule favors them, and they're getting guys healthy.

1879
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 6: And by the way, if they get in, they're.

1880
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 5: Gonna be a dangerous team. They're gonna be one.

1881
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 6: Of those teams that gets into the playoffs and nobody's

1882
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 6: gonna want to play them because they're getting guys back.

1883
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 6: Not only that, like Elijah Kntsey, who didn't play like

1884
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 6: the first six weeks of the season.

1885
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 5: He's back and he's starting to become a force in

1886
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 5: the middle next to Vitevea. That's tough. That's tough. To

1887
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 5: deal with.

1888
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: And you know what, I love the story. I mean,

1889
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 3: here's a guy in Baker Mayfield got run out of

1890
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 3: Cleveland for we should not for Deshaun Watson of all people,

1891
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 3: went to Carolina, did his time there, signed a team

1892
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 3: favorable deal with Tampa to prove it, went and won

1893
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 3: the job and earned himself not a huge contract, but

1894
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 3: a nice three year deal. And Pete, would a surprise

1895
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 3: you if he woke up five six years from now

1896
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 3: that Baker Mayfield still the franchise quarterback Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1897
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 3: Me neither.

1898
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 5: It wouldn't surprise.

1899
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 6: Again, it wouldn't surprise me to see them win the

1900
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 6: Vision and become a factor in the playoffs.

1901
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 3: I give him a ton of credit. I get Baker

1902
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 3: Mayfield ten of credit. That's not easy what he went through.

1903
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of dangerous, he wakes up feeling dangerous. Baker Mayfield.

1904
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 5: I love Baker, favorite guy. He's one of my favorite

1905
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 5: guys to deal with in the league. And he's just

1906
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 5: he just he's a dude.

1907
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 3: By the way, the players, everything I been told of them,

1908
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: they love them. In the building.

1909
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: Ye rams over the Saints twenty one to fourteen. Eagles

1910
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: beat the Ravens twenty four to nineteen. Lamar's mom cussed

1911
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 2: him out. He said, after the game, I didn't run.

1912
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 5: He didn't run enough. She thought I tend to agree

1913
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 5: with her opportunities to run, and he was kind of

1914
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 5: hesitanting a little bit.

1915
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what the Eagles are exhibit a on

1916
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 6: what you do when you get big guys, and not

1917
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 6: just not just on the on the offensive line, because

1918
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 6: that's a damn good offensive line. And by the way,

1919
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 6: everybody goes, oh, they've been in a good offensive line

1920
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 6: for a long time. They lost their starting center who

1921
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 6: was an All Pro, and they replaced him with Cam Jurgens,

1922
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 6: who was the right guard. And they went and got

1923
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 6: a right tackle reach or left tackle Rejeck, and made

1924
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 6: him a monster at right guard. And on the defensive line,

1925
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 6: Jalen Carter is almost unblockable at times, and Davis was

1926
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 6: actually really good on Sunday. They're big on their defensive

1927
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 6: and offensive lines.

1928
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 5: They take advantage of it.

1929
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,520
Speaker 3: Pete is Jalen Carter the best three technique in football?

1930
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 6: I would say yes, when he wants to be. That's

1931
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 6: the only caveat I got to put on.

1932
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 2: Okay, Pete's favorite kind of game is a snow game,

1933
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: and the Bills beat the Niners thirty five to ten.

1934
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: You went on the stupid rant on your video on CBS.

1935
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 2: I saw it. I wanted to comment so bad, but

1936
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: I don't want to give you the time of day.

1937
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 5: Well, it's a survival test. That wasn't up ball. They're

1938
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 5: skipping and sliding around. Look at playing and slow. Chris

1939
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: Callsworth kept saying that they're playing slow. They can't even run.

1940
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 5: That's not football, it's garbage.

1941
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 3: So I'll say this, I enjoyed the Steeler Brown game

1942
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: better because it wasn't that on grass. Yes, yes, and

1943
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 3: so you have better traction on grass. You get on

1944
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: that turf with that much snow, like they had no footing.

1945
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: You couldn't know, couldn't. But I still like it. That's

1946
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: a bad It.

1947
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 5: Wasn't It wasn't a good football game, and it wasn't

1948
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 5: fun to watch. Great.

1949
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 6: They had snow and they shoveled the lines and oh

1950
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 6: look at the pageantry and the Bills fans shoveled.

1951
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 5: It's garbage.

1952
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football AFC Battle of Mile High Jamis Winston

1953
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: and the browns weet Bow Knicks in the Broncos Denver

1954
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,839
Speaker 2: win eliminates the Jaguars. Who you got quickly?

1955
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 3: Broncos.

1956
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 5: Broncos good defense, top defense.

1957
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: Mis hard place to play on Monday night. They haven't

1958
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 3: had a game in front of fans and Myles Stadium

1959
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen on Monday night. If it happens, we'll

1960
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 3: talk draft next week.

1961
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm out draft talk.

1962
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: I'mna have to dive in and do some studying before

1963
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 3: next week. We're doing full draft.

1964
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 5: We gotta we got a little bit in today we did.

1965
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 2: That's Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli, m J. P. Shaddick. Thanks

1966
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: to David, Joe, Brent Riber, Joe Fortunato, and thanks to

1967
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour,