1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Team USA. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Yikes. We will get to that momentarily. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the tierrack dot com studios. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Tire iraq dot com will help get you there and 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard protection and 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: over ten thousand recommended installers ti rack dot com The 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: way tire buying should be a good afternoon, do you, VJ. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Husky. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Good to be with you again, man, I'll tell you 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: this right off the top. Team USA not the greatest 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: day on Saturday. So it started off you had on 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the men's side, Team USA in an Olympic tune up 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a friendly against South Sudan. Team USA favored by forty 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: three and a half. They won by one, they fairly 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: won by one point. And then the nightcap you saw 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Team USA on the women's side, they went up against 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: the WNBA All Stars and they got smacked around, VJ. 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: They lost the game outright. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: So the men barely beat South Sudan, and the Team 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: USA women they lost to the WNBA All Stars. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: Not great, not great for a Team USA yesterday. 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: Not great? Man. 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: First of all, my man, Brian, don't you know no good? 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: What's up? 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 5: Player? 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 4: How you doing, man, Listen, I'm excited. Listen. 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 6: I was texting you at the crack of dawn this morning. 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 6: How excited I was the talk some football. I gotta 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 6: say this, man, for the fans and for all the 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 6: people out there. You my friend, along with Bernie Fratto, 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 6: you guys are probably my two favorite gentlemen to talk 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 6: just like strictly football with. We've done a ton of 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 6: shows together, you and I, Bernie and I. I call 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 6: in on his show. It gives me a segment over 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 6: there from time to time. So I'm super, super excited. 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 5: Man. 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: It's great to be here. 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: Now. 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: As far as Team USA, I saw your. 40 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 6: Tweet yesterday that that All Star Game was is exciting 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 6: as any NBA All Star game that you've recently seen. 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 6: And you know what being I'm. 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: With you, bruh. 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 6: Martin now and I are sitting here watching the game 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 6: during our show Martin and VJ that's here on Saturdays yesterday, 46 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 6: and during the commercial break we're just like ooh and 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 6: ah and oh my god. Like the moves, the intensity, 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 6: pushing falling forearms, girls flopping, talking trash. 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: You know. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 6: Diana Tarassi gets to and one says a little something 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 6: to the young lady and then gets with her team 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 6: is it's it's even her post game in the middle 53 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: of the court that's now out there, and you know, 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 6: as they were getting the winning team was getting you know, 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 6: the celebratory all, you know, handshakes and they're setting up 56 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: the trophy table and all of that. Diana Tarassi sticking 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 6: her nose in there with her teammates like, hey, this 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 6: is this is unacceptable, you know. 59 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: And it was a great game. It's what all Star 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: games should be. 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you something, man, the women's basketball, 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 6: not the WNBA women's basketball is officially on the map. 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 6: Like that was a great contested basketball game and we 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 6: needed it coming off from what we saw with Team 65 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 6: USA and South to Dan winning by one point yesterday. 66 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 6: Saw yeah, man, opposite ends of the spectrum for both 67 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 6: programs right now heading into the Olympics. 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Well, that was the thing on the ladies' side the 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: game last night. It was fantastic. That's basically their version 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: of the All Star Game. It's a much different format 71 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: where it's Team USA the Olympians going up against Team WNBA, 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the All Stars that didn't make the Olympic team, and 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: so all those girls have something to prove. It was 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: a great format. They've used this before, so I love 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: the format. And you're right, like both teams cared, they 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: played real defense, they were following following each other. It 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: was a legit competition. Yeah, And I started thinking why 78 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: why don't we have that in the NBA? And I 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: came up with three reasons, fij I think you'll agree 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: with all of them, but I want you to pick 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: out what you think is the biggest reason why. So 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: think about what you saw last night on the lady 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: side and what you don't see in the NBA All 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Star Game. Why you saw so much competitiveness last night. 85 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: One the money, I mean, think about Alicia Gray. She 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: won a night before, she won the skills competition and 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: she won the three point Contest. She walked away with 88 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: about one hundred and ten thousand dollars. She makes one 89 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five thousand dollars for the entire season. Like, 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: that's more than half what she earned last on Friday 91 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: for the Skills Competition and the three point contest. So 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I think the money not being the same when Britney 93 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: Grinder has to go over to Russia, Right, you know, 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: and it makes some extra cash. It's just different. You're 95 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: grinding harder. The other thing is the ratings. The WNBA 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: is on the come up, and so they are striving 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: for relevance. I think that matters as well. And then 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: of course the format. The format is fantastic Team USA 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: versus the WNBA All Stars. So I think those three things, 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: the money, the ray, the format all factored into why 101 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the game was so good last night. What do you 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: think is the biggest reason why? 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: Uh, you know what. 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 6: To me, it just felt like they wanted it, man, 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 6: just to want just the thrive for competition that we 106 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 6: don't normally see in the NBA nowadays. We see a 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 6: lot of load management. We see a lot of guys 108 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 6: kind of you know, you know, taking days off, taking 109 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 6: plays off. You know what I'm saying, Like it's my 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: dad used to always tell me when this is back 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 6: in the eighties and nineties. He never watched the NBA 112 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 6: Brian until the playoffs, and his line was always, they 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 6: don't play hard until then. My dad was saying that 114 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 6: back in the eighties, bro, in the nineties, they don't 115 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: play hard. 116 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't play hard. 117 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, your Jordan's and your shacks or your magic, your birds, 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 6: your your ewings, your you know, the the guys, right, 119 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 6: Barkley stopped them alone. They go out every single night. 120 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: But that's a very small percentage. I just think that 121 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: these ladies wanted more as far as the competitiveness goes 122 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 6: the money, You're exactly right, these women get paid. You 123 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 6: mentioned Brittney Grinder, right. I know you're a football story 124 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 6: and I know there's a time you remember where they 125 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 6: talk about Hall of Fame Super Bowl winners had to 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 6: go get jobs in the offseason in the NFL, they 127 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 6: had to go sell cars. 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: They had to go walk at the player. I can't 129 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: remember the Packer player, but after they won the Ice Bowl, 130 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: they won the off ball against the Cowboys, he walked home. 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: He didn't even have a car. I forget. It's a legendary. 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: I can't remember the guy's name, but just stories like. 133 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 6: That, you know, And these women have to go overseas, 134 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 6: they have to play in the off season for extra money. 135 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 6: They just don't make enough scratch. You know, there's professional 136 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: nine to fives that make more than w NBA players. 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 6: So I agree with you on the money. And then 138 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 6: of course the ratings. Hey, let's go out. Let's show 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: the world that it's not just Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 6: There's a bunch of us and we and we ball like, 141 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 6: we can play this game. We can score, we can dribble, 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 6: we can pass, we can shoot. We're exciting, we're intense. 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 6: Let's go show the world. So I agree with you, 144 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 6: but I'll add on a fourth just to want man, 145 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 6: just the competitive spirit that I think is lost in 146 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 6: the NBA to an extent, and the women are grabbing 147 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 6: and grasping that because at the end of the day, 148 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 6: for people that goes, oh, I don't care about women's basketball, 149 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 6: you saying you watched yesterday, you care, you paid attention yesterday. 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 6: Because as the game got going, it's like, Okay, they're 151 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 6: playing hard. 152 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of trick plays. 153 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 6: Nobody are chricking, you know, shots and passes, Nobody shooting 154 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 6: thirty seven foot three pointers back to back times down 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 6: the floor. 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: They're playing basketball at a competitive nature. So I'll add 157 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: that to the fourth. I agree with you three, but 158 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: let me get that fourth one in there. 159 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: But that fourth one goes into one of the top three, Like, 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: ask yourself, why is the one not there. Why is 161 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: the competitive spirit not there on the men's side when 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: we're watching the NBA All Star Game. The money and 163 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the reason why is they're getting paid, they're fat, they're spoiled. 164 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. That's the truth. 165 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: Man. 166 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't like that, it's the truth, but it is. 167 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: They're spoiled, man, because ask yourself this, if all things 168 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: are equal, Okay, we talked about the format was awesome 169 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: last night. Let's say the same thing happens in the NBA. 170 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Let's say it's the NBA like Olympic team, Team USA 171 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: against the NBA All Stars that didn't make the Olympic team. 172 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Do you think we're seeing the same sort of competitiveness 173 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: last night that we saw on the ladies signe. 174 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely not, no way, absolutely not. 175 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: They're gonna they're gonna pay homage to, you know, the 176 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: USA guys, and you'll get five or six guys back 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 6: out and say no, they don't want to do it 178 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: because their feelings are hurt that they didn't make the 179 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 6: Olympic team. 180 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: So no, I'm not about to play that. 181 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: I'm about to go sit sideline, or I'm about to 182 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 6: go to Centropei or Cozamel or you know, Cabo, I'm 183 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 6: on vacation. 184 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm about to go do me. 185 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: Training camp starts in about a month and a half 186 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: for NBA players anyway, So it's like, nah, man, I'm good. 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: No, I agree with you. 188 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: No way. 189 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: That would be like a glorified scrimmage. Maybe maybe, but 190 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: you would have this the end. The Team USA would 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: be like, hey, slow down, guys, come on, we're about 192 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: to have the Olympics here. 193 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: You know what, why so hard? Yeah? 194 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Here tonight, come on, settled down, and yeah, you could 195 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: play this game all you want. Like the WNBA schedule, 196 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: it's not as long as the NBA schedule. Yeah, that 197 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: could factor in as well. But I think the biggest 198 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: reason why you see such a drastic difference the ladies 199 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: are scratching and clawing last night. The men they're like 200 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: scratching and clawing you. No, thank you, this is an exhibition. 201 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: The reason why is because they're paid so much money. 202 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they shouldn't be paid VJ. I 203 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: mean that's what the league generates. They should get their 204 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: cut of it. But the byproduct of it is they're spoiled. 205 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: They're fat and happy, and they're not trying to break 206 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: a sweat and play all out in an exhibition game. 207 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: That's why it's so different. 208 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. The money. 209 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 6: The money that first of all, Yeah, they should get paid, 210 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 6: But some of these contract like Paul George signing a 211 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,359 Speaker 6: MAX deal at this point in his career, it's like, like, huh, 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: what we've seen the best Paul George, we're gonna see 213 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 6: We're not gonna see a better Paul George. You can 214 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: see a guy like Jalen Brunton. Essentially, if you add 215 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: in all the variables, took one hundred million dollar you know, 216 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 6: reduced contract this year to free up money for the 217 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 6: nickelbocas over the next year or two or whatever to 218 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 6: add big time talent and get to a championship. So 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 6: there's a huge spectrum as far as the pay goes. 220 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: But I'm with you, totally spoiled. 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 6: I when I first got into sports talk about sixteen 222 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 6: seventeen years ago, I always said, guaranteed contracts in the 223 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 6: NBA is is gonna ruin the game. The only athlete 224 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 6: pro athletes that should be getting guaranteed contracts are NHL 225 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 6: players and NFL players because of the physicality of the game. 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: On your body. They're the only ones, in my opinion, 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: that should be getting full guaranteed contracts. 228 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: Man. 229 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: That's the thing though, is if you're competitive, you know, 230 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: if you're an NBA player, I'd be watching the Ladies 231 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: last night and being like, this is great. And if 232 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: you were an All Star in the last game, I 233 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: would hope you'd feel a little bit embarrassed, right, Like 234 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: the All Star Game on the NBA side was so bad. 235 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: It's been bad for a while now. 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: And if you're watching the ladies, just do what they did, 237 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I think at some point you have to be like, man, 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: we got to step it up. 239 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: This just it's taken things for granted. 240 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: It really is vj because you're looking at it and 241 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, we got our money, we got our ratings, 242 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: we got our relevance. 243 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Why are we going all out? 244 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, man, that's when you start to 245 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: lose people when you take them for granted. So I 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: hope the men can step it up next year. I'm 247 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: not expecting the same level of intensity, but just more. 248 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it just don't make it a joke, and 249 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: it's been a joke for quite a while. All Right, 250 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: we got a lot to do here, VJ. Lot of 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: ball on the docket, huh, meaning football, A lot of 252 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: football talk. 253 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Of course, we'll get back to the hoops. 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: Anything else that is interesting to us or entertaining might 255 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: not even be sports wise, you know, we'll cover all 256 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: of it coming up next. There is a team that 257 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: has received the most bets to exceed its season win total. Okay, 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: it's an NFL team. Most bets and the betters they 259 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: might be dead wrong. 260 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: We'll get to that. He's VJ. Husky. 261 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm Brian. Now keep it locked right here on Fox 262 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 263 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 264 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: the nation. 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He's VJ Husky. 278 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm Brian though, coming to you live from the Tirack 279 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: dot Com studios. So VJ I caught this where bet MGM. 280 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: They'll send out these emails with stats and figures and 281 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: betting lines and all this stuff. And something caught my attention. 282 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Where in the NFL they have all these season win 283 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: totals and the most bets on the over for any 284 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: particular team is on the Chicago Bears over height the 285 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: half wins this season. Now, you watch the NFL, you 286 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: follow the NFL, You have a good NFL mind, many 287 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 1: NFL opinions. Right, how do you feel about the Bears 288 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: over eight and a half wins this season? With the 289 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback? What do you think? 290 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: Fools goal? Okay, cools go. 291 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 6: They're suckering people in like BROWNI is the front runner 292 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 6: in Vegas for Rookie of the Year. Yeah, if you 293 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: got some money you just want to give away. Listen, 294 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 6: I understand the pieces that they have added. Okay, I 295 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 6: love Keenan Allen. He made my top ten pre trading 296 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 6: Camp receiverless he's in my top ten. 297 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: He's a veteran, he's steady when he's out there. 298 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: He's just a beast. 299 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: I would like him to score more touchdowns because he's 300 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 6: never had double digit touchdowns in his career, which is 301 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 6: a surprising stat to a fine But you have a 302 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: rookie quarterback and when you put the tape on, I've 303 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 6: been saying this for the last two years about Caleb 304 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 6: Williams when you start the Mahomes comparison. See, that's what, 305 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 6: in my opinion, really made people nitpick him, because if 306 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 6: you're telling me you're the best court, he's like the 307 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: best quarterback on the planet. Okay, Then I got to 308 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: see that there's four bad game tapes that you could 309 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 6: go put on from just last season, back to back years. 310 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 6: Utah slapped him around, they got physical with him, and 311 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: he wasn't built for that. 312 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: Roma Doonza. 313 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 6: I understand why people love him, but just understanding that 314 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 6: game against Michigan when he's going up against two NFL 315 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 6: corners and Will Johnson and Sanderstill he got shut out. 316 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 6: He was completely taken out of the game, going to 317 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 6: gets two NFL style corners and an NFL my defensive coordinator. 318 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: You're gonna face that every week, home boy, when you 319 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: get to the National Football League, not just the National 320 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: Championship game. So those are the type of question marks 321 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 6: that I look at. And then why would I trust 322 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: the Bears? Why because they got Caleb Williams Abra flu 323 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 6: should have been fired already, right, So you want me 324 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: to believe that all of a sudden, you're gonna add 325 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 6: this guy, add boiling water and some and some seasons 326 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 6: in stir and you got a great pot of gumbo. 327 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen. Eight and a half. 328 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: Vegas always has one of these teams men that takes 329 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 6: people's money. This year it's the Chicago Bears. I liked 330 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 6: six maybe seven wins, but that division, Hello, Hello, the division, 331 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 6: the other NFC teams, the the the the Eagles, the Niners, 332 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 6: the Rams. Really in Chicago's gonna make this lead. So no, 333 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 6: I'll give me the under on that all day. 334 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah it listen, it can be done. We saw it 335 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: last year with the rookie quarterback in CJ. 336 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: Stroud. 337 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: If you told me before the season they were gonna 338 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: be a ten win team. I would have said, what 339 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: are you talking about? That's what they were, you know, 340 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: so it has happened before. I wouldn't say no chance, 341 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: no how that's just me and I don't think that's 342 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying either. I get what your your position is, 343 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: right fools, gold and all that, but it's the NFL. 344 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: Right, crazy things happen. 345 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,479 Speaker 1: I would say eight and a half looks very inviting, 346 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, where you're like, oh man, eight and a half, that. 347 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Seems really low. 348 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: They're playing seventeen games, But you look at it a 349 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: different way and it's like they've got to have a 350 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: winning record. 351 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: They got to be nine to eight. 352 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: That's not the easiest thing to do in that division 353 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback. And yeah, CJ. Stroud did his thing. 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the next guy up is gonna do 355 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: what CJ. Stroud did. And I think Caleb Williams is very, 356 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: very talented, But something that's different between him and CJ. 357 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: Stroud. CJ. 358 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Stroud's every move, every throw wasn't under the microscope, and 359 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: that's the way it's gonna be with Caleb Williams. 360 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: He's just a lightning rod. 361 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: He's a polarizing guy and people have opinions for days 362 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: on him, and I think he's gonna feel that pressure 363 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: initially in the NFL. Now I think his career goes on, 364 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to get some seasoning and respond well. 365 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: But as a rookie, that's a lot to ask, and 366 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: when you're just trying to win games, primarily with your defense, 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: that is not easy in a division that can put 368 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: up some points, right with the Packers and the Lions. 369 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: So I would look to the under on that one. 370 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I put it this way, VJ. 371 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: I would not be running to the window like the 372 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: rest of the betters saying give me over eight and 373 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: a half for the Bears. I see it going the 374 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: other way. 375 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, also too here let me just throw this out here. 376 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: So they open up in a regular season with the Titans, 377 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 6: right then at the Texans loss at the coach loss 378 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 6: home against the Rams, loss home against the Panthers. I'll 379 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 6: give him that one home against jasguar fifty to fifty 380 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 6: game at Washington that's October twenty seventh, who knows at 381 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 6: that point, right, But then at the Cardinals, and then 382 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 6: of course they have there at road games in the division, 383 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 6: so they have to go to the Packers, to the Vikings, 384 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 6: to Detroit, right, they go to the Niners also, and 385 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: the Seahawks coming in. They finish up at the Packers. 386 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 6: Their last five are Lions, Niners, Vikings, Lions, Seahawks, Packers. 387 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 6: And somebody's telling me they're squeezing nine or ten wins 388 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 6: out of that schedule. Okay, good luck, go yeah, go 389 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 6: put your then go put your money. 390 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: Not you. 391 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm speaking to the fans out there. 392 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 6: Anybody that feels this, anybody that wants to debate this, 393 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 6: don't debate it. 394 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: Go put your money on the over. 395 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: Then if you're that confident, like I said, they won 396 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 6: seven games last year, I think six or seven would 397 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 6: be an ok season for a rookie quarterback with a 398 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 6: head coach that's in flux. Our front off is no 399 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 6: one trusts, and one of your main targets is another 400 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 6: rookie receiver. That's a learning curve too. Every receiver can't 401 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: come into the league real quick. No, there's always a 402 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: rookie class of receivers where one guy just doesn't pan 403 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 6: out over like the last eight or nine years, We've 404 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: had some great rookie class of receivers, like four and 405 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: five guys that go on the top and a twenty 406 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 6: five to twenty six picks. But there's always a guy 407 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 6: it's like, Wow, what happened here? Remember Terras Marshall from LSU. 408 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 6: He was there with Justin Jefferson. He was there with 409 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 6: Jamar Chase. He was gonna be a guy too. Now, 410 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 6: I know he's in Carolina and there's a lot going 411 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 6: on there, but even when you put the tape on 412 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: and watch him, it's like, this guy just might not 413 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: be in NFL. He might not be an NFL receiver, 414 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: even with the bad talent around him. I'm watching you 415 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 6: on routes. I'm watching you give up on routes. I'm 416 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 6: watching you drop balls. That's got nothing to do with 417 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 6: the talent around you. I just state roam with dunes 418 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: that once again, when I put the tape on, when 419 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 6: he lines up against guys that play on Sunday, he's 420 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 6: not the same. He's not the same guy. When Devonte Smith, 421 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 6: when you line him up in the SEC, oh, he 422 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 6: just went out and won the Heisman with eighteen hundred yards. 423 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 6: Then he comes in the NFL and he can't be covered. 424 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 425 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 6: It's like you see it on tape. It's not always 426 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 6: just by name, but that schedule. Man, you look at 427 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: those road games, even the Jazz coming in it's a 428 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 6: home game. But what if the Jacks bounce back this year? 429 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: People think, so, they gave him fifty They gave Trevor 430 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 6: Lawren's fifty five million dollars, so they think that they 431 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 6: had just kind of an off year. And people have 432 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: to remember at one point they were the number one 433 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: seed in the AFC. Last year, they were rolling like 434 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 6: the Eagle than the NFC, and then it just fell 435 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 6: apart for them. That doesn't happen. They're a team coming 436 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: into your stadium in October. They're they're rolling man Lawrence. 437 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: Travis DTNN Doug Peterson at the head coach position. It's yeah, 438 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: like I said, just give me the under on the Bears. 439 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's look at a team that has the most 440 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: under tickets, right, the most bets on this team to 441 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: go under. 442 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: And I disagree with this also. 443 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: Okay, it's the Dallas Cowboys under VJ under nine and 444 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: a half. Now here's my spiel on this Okay, I 445 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: think there's a difference between how. 446 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: It feels and how it is. 447 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get how it feels with the Cowboys, where 448 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: it's like, man, the playoffs roll around and they don't 449 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: do anything. It's been since what the mid nineties, since 450 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: they were making deep playoff runs. 451 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: I get that. 452 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be all like warm and fuzzy about 453 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys heading into the twenty twenty four season. 454 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: I get that, But you look at this VJ. They've 455 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: won twelve games each of the last three years. Yes, 456 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: the nucleus is still there. You might not love Dak, 457 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: but the dude puts up numbers. He's productive. Match with 458 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and Micah Parsons on the other side, and 459 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: you get Trayvon Diggs back this season, who missed pretty 460 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: much all the last season. 461 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: Like, I get why you don't love. 462 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Them, but under nine and a half, they've won twelve. 463 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: They won twelve last season. 464 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that they're roster wise, they're three 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: wins worse. They lost that much talent, Like, you never 466 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: know what the injury bug, maybe they get hit, there's 467 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: some bad luck. It could go south, but I would 468 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: not bet on the under nine and a half for 469 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys this season. 470 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: Insanity, right, the definition doing the same thing and expecting 471 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: a different result. In the last two years, the Cowboys 472 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 6: were my team picked to like fall off the map, 473 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 6: oh exactly. And I was telling Martin about three weeks ago, Hey, 474 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 6: you know, three thirst times the charm, maybe it'll cash 475 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 6: this year. I'm starting to back off of that because 476 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: I'm listening to like you said, I'm trying to get 477 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: rid of the noise, right, because the Cowboys bring a 478 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 6: lot of noise. A lot of people on already over 479 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 6: a lot of people on TV talking about the Cowboys, 480 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 6: and it's all negative, right, so you kind of feed 481 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: into that. 482 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: What you ingest is where your brain's gonna go. But 483 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: you're right. 484 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 6: That is a certified forty five hundred quarterback, right, forty 485 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: five hundred yards, thirty six touchdowns. He threw nine interceptions 486 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 6: last year. People talk like, yo, Dak can't get it. 487 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 6: Thirty six to nine. He's under ten interceptions. That's a 488 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 6: lot less than some of the quarterbacks that are rated 489 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 6: above Josh Allen through eighteen two of my guy ooh ooh, 490 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 6: so he threw fourteen Like there's that takes care of 491 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 6: the ball. 492 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: We're just left with that Packer game. That's who we're 493 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: left with. It is it is human nature to reflect 494 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: on what you last saw and what your last heard. Right. 495 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 6: They teach me that in therapy, and their schedules not kind. 496 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 6: Though they have the Ravens. 497 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: They open up with the Saints. 498 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 6: They got the Lions. Lines are tough. They have to 499 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 6: go back to San Franz. We know what happened out 500 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 6: there last year. We know about the division games. I 501 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: think the division gonna be that great. They got the Bengals, 502 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 6: but that game's at home. They got the Bucks. I 503 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: think the Bucks will be tough this year, but that 504 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 6: game's at home. They don't really have a schedule. I 505 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 6: look at and go, man, where's that run that they 506 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 6: can kind of fall up or trip up? Other than 507 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 6: the Eagles in their division? Man, I think it's them 508 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 6: in the Eagles. But I'm with you, man, the yeah 509 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 6: give me the over on this. I'm backing off to 510 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna make the same mistake I made the 511 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 6: last two years. 512 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: Just to try to prove a point. 513 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 6: I would go the over on the Cowbys because, like 514 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 6: you said, that Nucleus is still there now. Yesterday they 515 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: said they're prioritizing Ceedee Lamb contract wise. 516 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: I think that's a mistake. 517 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: I know they can attag Micah, but I think that 518 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 6: would piss Michael off. 519 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: And I think they can lose. I'm serious. 520 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: I think they could lose Michael because Jerry Jones he waits. 521 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: To pay and everybody's all paid. 522 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: This guy. 523 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: Wait he got paid. This guy way he got paid, 524 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: this guy way he got paid. 525 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 6: True, but those guys weren't the character in the personality 526 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 6: of Michaeh Parson's And he's got a teammate sitting on 527 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 6: a Keshawn Johnson's podcast talking about his check and talking 528 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: about his money and where he got prioritized as far 529 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: as the content talking about Michael. So I think Michael 530 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 6: is the guy's like, Okay, yeah, go ahead and franchise 531 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 6: me this. 532 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: Year and watch and watch what happens. I will walk away. 533 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 6: You think there's not a team out there right on 534 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 6: the cusp that wouldn't mind signing and giving him the 535 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 6: bag as a free agent. After that franchise stuff runs out, 536 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 6: I beg to never give me the over rue Dallas. 537 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. 538 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Real fast, What the Cowboys, is I wish they would 539 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: be more like the Lions this offseason. The Lions, it 540 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, I'm in Ross Saint Brown is 541 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: a baller, Let's pay you know, Pina Sewel is a ballers. 542 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: Pay him. 543 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: Like they just gave their guys contract extensions. 544 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Cowboys are like, well, we're still trying to 545 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Dodie and cross teas with CD and mic Upart. 546 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: It's like, just pay the guys. 547 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: Don't forget, don't forget Dak. You know, don't forget Dak. 548 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: Dak is an interesting subject. Let's circle back on Dak 549 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: for a second. First, though, let's work Martin Weiss into 550 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: the equation over a part. 551 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: What is going on? Buddy Howard? Thanks much? 552 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: Fine life is good? Whoa both life skin? 553 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 6: We're both light skinned men in the sports Talk We 554 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 6: are only two light skin guys with a show twins. 555 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: Only they're not anybody else. 556 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: I don't know anything. 557 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: I don't think there's two light skinned African American men 558 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 4: with the Sports Hawk show on the national stage other 559 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: than Martin Man. 560 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Rob Parker's got Sports Rap Radio. You know, 561 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: we don't have a tandem of light skin guys on that. 562 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: Think So I think we're underrepresented here, Brian. 563 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys are holding it down. 564 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was for us. 565 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 8: Saturday is eight to eleven Eastern. Who knows what the 566 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 8: who knows what the landscape. It would be worse. I'll 567 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 8: tell you that it would be worse, all right. So 568 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 8: NASCAR Cup Series at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Brad Kazlowski in 569 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: the lead through one hundred and forty four laps, Ryan 570 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: Blaney and Zane Smith and second and third right now again, 571 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 8: that's one hundred and forty four through one sixty and 572 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 8: Benjo Legue. 573 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: Baseball, the Nationals top the Reds five to two. 574 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 8: That's the three game. Sweet Phillies shut out the Pirates 575 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 8: six nothing. Cardinals beat the Braves six to two. Everybody 576 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 8: hit a home run. It seems like gold. Mit, Burlison, 577 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 8: Newt Bar and Contraras all home for the Cardinals. 578 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: Oh there you go. 579 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: St. 580 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: Louis Love Huh, let's do it, yes, all the way. 581 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: My dad was born right outside of Saint Louis. You 582 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: know I had no choice. 583 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: Oh well, you know, just keeping in the show. 584 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: VJ. 585 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: The Texas Rangers beat the Baltimore. 586 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: Orioles three to two. 587 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 4: Sawid baby, let's go there, we go. 588 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 8: Everybody's everybody's happy except for me, as the Blue Jays 589 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 8: win with the five to four win over the Tigers. 590 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 8: All it took from me yesterday to say, look, they're hot. 591 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 8: George Springer too, Yeah, I going George Bringer homer twice 592 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 8: the Rays. I'll score the Yankees six to four. Aaron 593 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 8: Judges with a three run bomb in the seventh inning. 594 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 8: That's just thirty fifth of the year. Padres beat the 595 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 8: Guardians two to one. Games in progress right now, Houston 596 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 8: and Seattle. The Amerners with a three to one lead 597 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 8: in the sixth inning. Top of the sixth There the 598 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 8: A's with a three to two lead over the Angels 599 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 8: in the sixth inning, and San Francisco with a three 600 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 8: to two lead over Colorado. 601 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 602 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 8: San Francisco beat Colorado three to two. That scored just 603 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 8: updating as I'm reading it. Gotta love it and shot 604 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 8: a sixty five under our six under sixty five in 605 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 8: the final round of one hundred and fifty second Open. 606 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 8: He ends at the top of the leader board nine 607 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 8: under par. It's the second major win of his career. 608 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 8: Justin Rosen really Horsechel tied for second place at seven 609 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 8: under par overall, and Celtics for Sam Hauser has agreed 610 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: to a four year, forty five million dollar contract extension. 611 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: Adding to Houser's extension. 612 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 8: The Celtics payroll elevates elevates now to a projected. 613 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: Two twenty five million. 614 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 8: That makes them a wow, highest in the league and 615 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 8: over the second APRIN for the second consecutive year. Also, 616 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 8: that's what the Celtics did. The Celtics Alnes did the 617 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 8: same thing this offseason. 618 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 4: Let's sign all of our players as much money as 619 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: we can, Vija and Brian. Back to you guys. Celtics 620 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 4: got that championship though, so they can do that. 621 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I have to Martin and VJ. I 622 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: have to tell you my my ugly betting situation earlier today. 623 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: It's the funny story and it wasn't for amount of money, 624 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: So it's all good. I've been Summer League, okay, I've 625 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: profited heavily off of the NBA Summer League. It is 626 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: a great, great little tournament to bet on. But anyway, 627 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: what was funny is a little bit earlier, the heat 628 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: and the Warriors. They're still playing, so before halftime I 629 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: had to bet on the Heat just their first half 630 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: team total. This is as degenerate as it gets. By 631 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: the way, a first half team total on a summer 632 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: league game. I need the Heat to get to forty 633 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: six points. They're at forty five. 634 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 635 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: The guy shooting his second free throw with less than 636 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: a minute to go, clang, we're. 637 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: Still in it. 638 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: Okay, same guy, next possession, he shoots a three misses. 639 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Same guy gets another opportunity. He lets it fly right 640 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: before the buzzer. It's not exactly filled the capacity, right, 641 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: it's scarcely attended. So you hear him yell out that's good. 642 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, let's go clang clang, and we lose. 643 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: The same guy who missed the free throw missed two 644 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: threes at the end of the first half. 645 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: We lost by a point. How disgusting is that? 646 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: That's brutal. You know what I was thinking of yesterday, Brian. 647 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 8: You'll appreciate this as I'm sitting here updating the scores 648 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 8: for South Sudan versus US. Yeah, all I can think is, Wow, 649 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 8: South Sudan money line first quarter and first half had 650 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 8: to pay a retirement. But how sick would you be 651 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 8: if you had bet South Sudan money line for the 652 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 8: whole game. I wouldn't be able to show my face, 653 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 8: you know what. 654 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: I'd be yelling that was a foul at the end. Right, 655 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you had I don't even date. 656 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you even had a money line. 657 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: It was forty three and a half, you know, right, 658 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: but first half is like twenty four and a half. 659 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: All right, great stuff, Martin. 660 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 6: Brian, listen, man, you gotta stop doing this to yourself 661 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: on Sundays. The last Sunday show we did together was 662 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 6: The College World Serious Game, right, and you were over 663 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: there right your nails on Tennessee, Bro, stop doing this. 664 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 6: Sunday is the Sabbath. Grill your dogs and grab a soda, Bro, 665 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: and relax. Don't bet on Sundays unless it's football. 666 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: Man, Vija. 667 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 8: What you don't understand is, and I'm guessing on this one, 668 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 8: but I think this is Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 669 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 8: end of the day. 670 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: Let's go. 671 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Come on, there's money to be made over here. Yeah, okay, VJ. 672 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Husky and Brian know what you here? On Fox Sports Radio, 673 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: so VJ Dak Prescott, Yes, we can revisit this, but 674 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: the cliffs notes version, this is a weird position for 675 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to be in. 676 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: All Right. 677 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: The guy puts up numbers, but he's been limited. 678 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: He hasn't gotten them to that next step come playoff time. 679 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: And so I am of the mindset. You push back 680 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: all you want. I am of the mindset. We don't 681 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: give Dak the bag here before the season starts. We 682 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: let him play out the final year of his contract. 683 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: If he plays great, and it costs us a little 684 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: bit extra money for a contract extension, so be it. 685 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: But we have roster flexibility, baby, And if he doesn't 686 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: take us to the promised Land, or at least get 687 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: us closer, we can pivot and go in a different direction. 688 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Because we've been at this year after year after year 689 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: after year, and although he's good, I'm looking for greatness 690 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: and if I don't see greatness, it's time to move on. 691 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: Hmm. All right, yeah, I do push back at that. 692 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: And let me tell you why. 693 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 6: The one thing that I can't do this football season 694 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 6: is just ignored the tape. And like I said, there's 695 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 6: a lot of jargon there's a lot of talk, it's 696 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that goes on with these quarterbacks. 697 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: Do you know how many current quarterbacks in the NFL 698 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 6: have a Super Bowl ring right now? 699 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: Four? Four, A Rod Mahomes, Russ Stafford. That's it. 700 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: We got to get in that exactly, exactly we got 701 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 6: to They gotta pay him. But this idea that we 702 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 6: will they haven't won. Are they having this or has 703 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: it taken us to the promised land? Or said, okay, 704 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 6: well you don't have one of those other four and 705 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: A Rod's done winning and Russ is done winning. 706 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: Stafford may be done too. Everybody's chasing Mahomes. 707 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: So you know, Jalen Hurts got to one, Lamar got 708 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 6: to an AFC championship game, Burrow got to one. Stafford 709 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 6: got to got to one. Stafford won his This idea that, oh, 710 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 6: don't pay him, let him play out this contract, all right, cool, 711 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 6: go ahead and do that. 712 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: What if Dak walks? What do you do now? 713 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: Now you're in scramble mode? Okay, what if there's not 714 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 6: a vent that's gonna be on the market. What if 715 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 6: there's not a trade to be made, and what if 716 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 6: your backup is not gonna be the guy to do 717 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 6: the job, and he's definitely not gonna be the guy 718 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 6: that Dak was. There's a reason why you're a backup 719 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 6: quarterback in the NFL. There's a reason for that. If 720 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 6: you were that good, you'd be starting somewhere because there 721 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 6: aren't thirty two really good starting quarterbacks. So think about 722 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 6: being a backup on like a two and a three 723 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 6: win team. You can't even start for this team. 724 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: You think you can go start somewhere else so they 725 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: can play that dangerous game of chicken like. 726 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 6: The Dolphins are doing with Ooz. But I'm gonna tell 727 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 6: you this, man, I would give Dak the bag. I 728 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 6: would just I'm paying. What else are you going to do? 729 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: Okay? 730 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, pay your receiver first? Yeah, how'd that work out 731 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 6: with Emoni, Cooper and Dallas? And that was dumb to 732 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 6: pay him and then we're and then trade him the 733 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 6: way they did. It's like, hold up, bro, you paid them. 734 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: Why are you getting rid? Oh you're trying to free up? 735 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 6: Oh okay, Well, if you gave Dak the money when 736 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 6: he first wanted a contract, remember it was like twenty eight, 737 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 6: they don't went to thirty four. You ended up paying 738 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 6: him forty over forty million dollars because you waited. Why 739 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 6: because you paid Zeke first, and then you paid Martin 740 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 6: and then you paid your quarterback. In the National Football League, 741 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 6: college football every level, and high school football every level, 742 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 6: if you do not have AQB, you have zero shot. 743 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: Period. If you got your guy, just pay him. Man, 744 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: why are we playing around so you. 745 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Don't have your guy? That's the point. You don't have 746 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: your guy. He's proven that so far. Again, he'll put 747 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: up regular season numbers and then what has he done 748 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: come playoff time? He's throwing two picks on the road 749 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: against the Niners. Right, He's dropping the ball against the 750 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: Packers and not playing up to what Jordan Love was doing. 751 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 752 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to make Dak sound like a dud, 753 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: because he is not. But I keep looking to the Chiefs. 754 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have given us the blueprint. They had a 755 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: quarterback who was serviceable, good Alex. I think Dak is better. 756 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: But they were all right, they could be a playoff team. 757 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: He led the league in passer rating. You could do 758 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: a whole lot worse. And they were like, let's not 759 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: just be good, let's try to be special. And they 760 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: went out there, they swung for the fences, and they 761 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes. Sometimes that's what it takes. I don't 762 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: know why we would be holding on to Dak like 763 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: it's our favorite blankie and we just can't part with it, 764 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, if he's got the 765 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: goods and proofs as such, I'll hold on to the guy. 766 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: But if he's throwing two picks on the road in 767 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: a like a nineteen to twelve game or what nobody 768 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: reaches twenty points against the Niners. 769 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: That's not good enough. 770 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: And you rattled off that list of guys who have 771 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: had deep playoff runs and maybe not won a Super Bowl. 772 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: You know who's not on that list, Dak, And they've 773 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: got a great roster. So I'm looking right at him, like, yo, 774 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: why haven't we gotten there? 775 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: Exactly? And it's not all his fault, but he has 776 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: a lot to do with them not getting to that 777 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: next level. 778 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: Get all right, I know we got to get the break, 779 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 6: but there's something on when we come back and we 780 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 6: can just touch on this if I can just answer 781 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 6: and respond to that, because I have a list here. 782 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 6: I just want to read off a few things to 783 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 6: you and act you with that, with the theory of oh, 784 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 6: he hasn't done anything in the playoffs. I know we 785 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: got to go to break, but if we can, just 786 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 6: if I can rebuttle when we come back from break, 787 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 788 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Do it, Let's get it. It's a rebuttal mode from VJ. 789 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: Right around the corner. 790 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: We'll do it. 791 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: He's VJ Husky. I'm Brian Though. 792 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: We're live from the tirerack dot Com studios here on 793 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 794 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's VJ Husky. 795 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Though, coming to you live from the tirerack 796 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Okay, VJ, you requested a rebuttal, you know, yes, 797 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: and it has been granted. Happily granted over I love it. 798 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: So we're talking about Dak Prescott. My my two cents 799 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: is he's put up numbers, good quarterback, but I'm not 800 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: giving him an extension in the off season. I'm letting 801 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: him play out the final year of his deal. If 802 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: he Joe Flacco's this thing and you know, earns himself 803 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: a bigger bag, so be it. But I want to 804 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: have flexibility if he withers again. So I am not 805 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: paying him, not doing it. 806 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna blame him for that playoff loss. 807 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 6: That that was a team effort, that team that he 808 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 6: didn't play defense, and the Packers walked up and down 809 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 6: the field at will against against the Cowboys. Now he throws, 810 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 6: he throws the pick six on the screen. That kind 811 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 6: of seals the game. That looks bad, like I said 812 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 6: it was later in the game. It makes it look like, ah, 813 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 6: that turna ball. Yeah, you're already down twenty plus points 814 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 6: like that game. 815 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: That game was over. 816 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 6: They were kicking their ass now. Right, My rebuttal is 817 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 6: the reason why you pay him now. And I'm not 818 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 6: talking about sixty million, right, I'm not talking about him 819 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 6: breaking the Baker being the number one paid quarterback. But 820 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 6: when you look at playoff wins, right, current guys active 821 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 6: in the league right now with their playoff win total, 822 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 6: Mahomes at fifteen, eight rot at twelve, I call him 823 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 6: Uncle Flacco. 824 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: Doesn't Joe Flacco look like the uncle that shows up 825 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 4: to the family cookout with his own. 826 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 9: Hey, yeah, I brought coleslough Yeah no, no, yeah, in 827 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 9: his own homemade beer. 828 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: Like he's he's got his own beer, like a milk 829 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 4: judge that he brewed that he brewed in the garage. 830 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 4: That's when Joe. 831 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 6: Blacko reminds me up Russell Wilson with nine. Now this 832 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 6: is where it gets interesting. Joe Burrows got five playoff wins, 833 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 6: he makes fifty five million. Josh Allas got five playoff wins. Right, 834 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 6: he was supposed to go win MVV never picked the 835 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl two three years ago. He makes 836 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 6: forty three million. Golfs got five playoff wins, fifty three million. 837 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 6: Stafford's got four playoff wins, forty million. Hurts with two 838 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 6: fifty one million. That's what two forty million, forty million 839 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 6: with your two playoff wins. If they were to give 840 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 6: him a deal and it was in the range of 841 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 6: even like forty eight, forty nine or even fifty million. 842 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: That would still put him in and fit him with 843 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: guys that has four or five playoff wins over their career. 844 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 6: But the reason why again you give him an extension 845 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 6: is because if he goes in, balls out, and if 846 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 6: that gets in his feelings and goes and says, no, 847 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 6: you should have paid me. You don't think there's another 848 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 6: team out there that won't give Dak a bit contract. 849 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 6: There is somebody will pay him, and now you lose 850 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 6: him and you got it now, Like you said, roster flexibility, Okay, 851 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 6: that don't matter. If you ain't got a quarterback, that 852 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 6: means nothing. If you don't have a quarterback and you 853 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 6: say they don't have their guy, no they do have 854 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 6: their guy. 855 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 4: That football is a team's sport. 856 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 6: We gotta stop blaming quarterbacks for losing a lot of 857 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 6: these games, especially when your defense is giving up thirty 858 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: plus points. 859 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 4: That's not on the quarterback. So that's why I say 860 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: you give him the extension. Now, don't play a dangerous 861 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: game of chicken. Here, Brian and he playing it. 862 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 6: He's playing it forty five hundred yards, another thirty plus 863 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 6: touchdowns and underten interceptions and looks at Jerry and go, no, 864 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 6: you should have taken care of me. You want to 865 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 6: take care to receive, No problem, Go ahead and going 866 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 6: to pay the receiver. He's gonna be pissed by Week 867 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 6: eight next year because he doesn't have a quarterback to 868 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 6: throw him the football. 869 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 3: Have fun. 870 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go test free agency. 871 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're acting like Dak isn't replaceable. 872 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: That's my whole thing with who, Why are we acting 873 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: like that Dak Prescott. I don't want to make him 874 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: out to be like a dozen because he's a good 875 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and you can do a lot worse than Dak Prescott. 876 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: Is he top ten to you right now? Is the 877 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: top ten quarterback? 878 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: I'd think I'm in the top ten. 879 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 4: Then you got to pay him. 880 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to pay him because I'm looking to 881 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: be special. I'm not looking to just be good. And 882 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: I look at that roster, and I look at that nucleus, 883 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: and I say, this is a great spot to go young. 884 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: If we're not getting better, if we're not going deeper 885 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, if our quarterback is leaving something to 886 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: be desired, If our quarterback, if we're paying him more 887 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: than what he's producing, is the pay greater than the production? Right, 888 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: That's the question you have to ask yourself and playoff wise, 889 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. 890 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: The pay is more than the production. And that's the deal. 891 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. 892 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know why we would look and say, hey, 893 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: if you go with a rookie, if you go another direction, 894 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: there's no way Shoulder Sanders or Carson Beck or throwing 895 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: the CD lamb and having a. 896 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: Good nucleus, a good defense, there's no way we can win. 897 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: You might actually be better off going that direction and 898 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: being on a roof. 899 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: Not twelve twelve, not twelve wins three years in a row. 900 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 4: Hell no, not with a rookie. Come in in playing 901 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 4: for Dallas. 902 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: Show me the playoff wins, baby, show him. 903 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: Playing for Dallas with that starring your helmet and all 904 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 4: that and all that pressure, Brian. 905 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: Show me the playoff wins in production. 906 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 4: Show me them and everybody doesn't win. 907 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 6: Listen, I just read you the list of playoff wins 908 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 6: for the top active playoff win every quarterback. 909 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 4: It's hard to win in the NFL. It's hard to 910 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 4: win in the postseason. 911 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 10: It just is. 912 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. 913 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: But that's why the best get paid the most, you know. 914 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: That's why. 915 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: All right, we go, uh the hot seat right around 916 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: the corner, the seat gets a little bit hotter. 917 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: Not just for us it's steaming in here, but for. 918 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: These guys as well. Oh, the hot seat is getting 919 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: hotter for a trio of coaches. 920 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: We'll have that for you in just a minute. 921 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the tierrack dot com studios ti 922 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: irack dot com. We'll help get you there, an unmatched selection, 923 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 924 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: thousand recommended installers. Tirereck dot com the way tire buying 925 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: should be all right VJ. 926 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 2: So it was a great off air conversation. 927 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: I gotta give props to our trusted producer Bo Benson 928 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: and technical producer Chris Purfett. They were telling me this 929 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: off the air, and I let it swirl around my 930 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: brain for a little bit, and I wanted to throw 931 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: it your way. All Okay, I know you're a big 932 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: football fan, not just NFL but also college football. They 933 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: were thrown out some scenarios with the Ohio State this year. Okay, 934 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: so Ryan Day it's had a hard time beating Michigan 935 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: as of late, okay. And a couple of scenarios they 936 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: threw out there and one that I pushed back on. 937 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: One that I disagreed with, even though these are fine gentlemen, 938 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: Bo and Chris purfet Huh. They said, if Ryan Day 939 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: loses to Michigan, right it doesn't matter what he does 940 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: in the BLAEFS, He's out. And I'm like, I can't 941 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: go to that that level right there. You know, if 942 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: they lose the Michigan. That's obviously a huge, huge, huge 943 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: bad thing for Ryan Day going forward. But imagine in 944 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: the twelfth team playoffs, he's maybe they have a bye, 945 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: they win a game, they win another game, they're going 946 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: to the championship, and all of a sudden it's a 947 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: could go either way three point game. That he's not 948 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: out of a job in that case, right, he's still 949 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: going back to Ohio State. 950 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 4: No, he loses the Michigan, he's fired, no matter what. 951 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: That's the only blemish outside of a championship game loss. 952 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 2: He is gone. 953 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 6: He's gone, Wow, I won't make it. He won't make 954 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 6: it to the he won't make it to the championship game. 955 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 6: Listen about Ohio State real quick. I've been really diving 956 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 6: into their schedule because that everybody, Oh, it's just you know. 957 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 4: The game Michigan, Michigan. No, they have a stretch that's 958 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 4: gonna tell me all I need to know about their team. 959 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 4: They have a stretch where they are at Oregon home 960 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 4: against Iowa, at Michigan State. They have Wisconsin and then Nebraska. Now, 961 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 4: I know people will listen to the things like what VJ. 962 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 4: Those teams sucked last year almost I'm not talking about 963 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 4: last year. We all know how college football works. A 964 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 4: lot of times, these teams have some down years and 965 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 4: then they pop up with eight or nine wins or 966 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: sometimes even ten wins. I was always going to be tough. 967 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 6: They're never gonna suck. They just can't beat Michigan in 968 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 6: Ohio State. But the fact that this year, with the 969 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 6: quarterback being in question again last year was col McCord. 970 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 6: This year Will Howard to transfer from Kansas State very interesting. 971 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 6: He was not named a starter coming out of spring ball. 972 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 6: Very interesting that he wasn't. And I thought I thought 973 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 6: Ward would have been a better transfer for them. I 974 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 6: know they were after him, and they were after Dillian 975 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 6: Gabriel too. I thought those would have been better fits. 976 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 6: I'll watched well Howard and okay, big guy. Big guy 977 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 6: was at six four, six five, you know, big strong, 978 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 6: But that that don't matter. Like that, that's not gonna matter. 979 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 6: I put the tape ones he misses throws. There's a 980 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 6: reason why he was playing at Kansas eight, right, there's 981 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 6: the reason why. 982 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 4: He was there. So that stretch of their schedule that 983 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: at Oregon game, or. 984 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You go to Oregon. You go 985 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: to Oddson, you smack them around, you win that game. 986 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: That's huge. 987 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: You're eleven and oh and hey man, you lose at 988 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: home to Michigan. I'm not I'm not saying that's okay. 989 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: That's really really. 990 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: Four straight losses to Michigan and two at home, and 991 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 4: they're not. 992 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: But then bounce back, an you bounce back and you're 993 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: winning playoff games. You make it to the title game, 994 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: and you lose a close one like obviously if you 995 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: want championship. 996 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: But he's fired right after losing with the playoff covering. 997 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? With all the talent and they 998 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: brought back all the nil money they spending, all the 999 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 4: transferporters of people they bought in, Are you kidding me? 1000 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: You kidding me? They're not going to outs and and 1001 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 4: smacking them around. That's still a talented football team, just 1002 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 4: because they lost their quarterback. Dylan Gabriel is a transfer 1003 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 4: who's played a ton of college football the big level. 1004 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: No, here's the thing, this is the if game. I'm 1005 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 2: not calling my shot. 1006 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Ohio State's gonna smack around Oregon, They're 1007 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: gonna be eleven and zero. 1008 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. 1009 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: Okay, this is the ifs, right, This is the scenario 1010 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: of if anyone says, hey, Ryan Day, if he loses 1011 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: to Michigan, He's out of a job, no matter what. 1012 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm throwing out the ifs where it's like, wait a minute, 1013 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: So if he beats Oregon in the regular season, if 1014 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 1: they have a deep playoff run, he's still out because 1015 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: they lost to Michigan. 1016 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: I don't buy that. Yes, that's for to Well, then 1017 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 4: you don't know the rivalry, then, sir, No, I know. 1018 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 10: I know you do. 1019 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 4: You're a Golden domer. Come on, man, you know how 1020 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 4: this works. Are you kidding me? You know how this works. 1021 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: You graduated for one of. 1022 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 2: The most prestigious No, no, I didn't go there. 1023 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I thought you went there. 1024 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: It's just my hometown. 1025 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 4: Oh your hometown, big fan. Okay, but still okay. 1026 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 6: But you've lift it right, you've lived touchdown, Jesus, you 1027 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 6: live lou Holt like you've lived. I didn't go to Michigan, 1028 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 6: but I've lived it since nineteen eighty three. 1029 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like I know the history 1030 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 4: in the history of Michigan, Ohio State John Cooper and 1031 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna try to remember the record is off 1032 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 4: the top of my head. He was like one oh 1033 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 4: one and our ninety something in like twenty something right 1034 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 4: over his time there. But he lost to Michigan like 1035 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: eight times. 1036 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 6: He had really great teams in the Heisman Trophy winner 1037 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 6: with Eddie Geordan. But but you can't beat Michigan, Bye 1038 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,479 Speaker 6: bye bye. 1039 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: Okay, but that's not We're halfway there with Ryan Day 1040 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: and when was John Cooper getting to the title game. 1041 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying the first twelve team format, you 1042 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: can't undersell this. Losing to Michigan horrible, fully understand that, 1043 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: especially for a fourth straight season, way more horrible. But 1044 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: go forward the playoff games. He's winning a game, and 1045 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: consider the competition too. They might take down Georgia or 1046 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: Bama or one of the Goliaths. They might have a 1047 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: couple of big time college football playoff wins. First time 1048 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: ever we've had a twelve team format. They have more 1049 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: way to the championship get and he's gone. 1050 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 6: I don't think Mark Mark Martin, the Michigan alum, is 1051 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 6: waving like he's landing a seven forty tag. 1052 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 8: Me in tag In. John Cooper's record career in Ohio 1053 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 8: State one hundred and eleven and forty three or four 1054 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 8: seventy and thirty and four in conference. 1055 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 4: And I'm with you, VJ. 1056 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 8: I don't care if they're If they're undefeated going into 1057 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 8: the Friday after the Saturday after Thanksgiving and they lose Brian, 1058 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 8: they were ready to can him last year. They were 1059 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 8: ready to get rid of him last year. I think, 1060 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 8: I know you got the playoff coming and all that, 1061 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 8: but I think the buildings were burning Columbus if they 1062 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 8: lose again, do. 1063 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: You think Martin If he lose, they're eleven to zero, 1064 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: they beat Oregon on the road, they lose to Michigan 1065 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: at home, He's fired before the playoff begins. They're going 1066 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: in head coach. 1067 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 8: You're losing to a guy who's in his first year 1068 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 8: coaching a quarterback in his first year playing. And it's like, 1069 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 8: that's that's the only saving grace, right, That's that's why 1070 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 8: of Like if then imagine what if Michigan. You think 1071 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 8: about it on the other side, what if Michigan loses 1072 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 8: three or four games this year but beats Ohio State 1073 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 8: and and and message up their scheduling. 1074 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 4: I promise you Ryan, they will be coaching Texas. He 1075 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 4: won't make it to he won't make it back to 1076 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 4: his office. He won't make it back to us off. 1077 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 4: Remember when USC fired who they fired a tarmac? Was 1078 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 4: it Kiffin or Starkif Kiffin on the he couldn't get 1079 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 4: it get on the plane. 1080 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at their record that year. They weren't 1081 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: eleven to zero. 1082 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 6: No, but but Ohio, I'm telling you there are pitfalls 1083 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 6: in this schedule. There are There's no guarantee that they're 1084 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 6: getting to Michigan undefeated. 1085 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: That's not a guarantee. Absolutely no, that's not a gar 1086 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 4: I would remember, I would normally doesn't even get play 1087 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 4: Michigan or Ohio State over the last few years. 1088 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 6: They have to wait to play them in the conference 1089 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 6: championship game. You know, Kurt Farns is gonna go in 1090 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 6: there with a tough, physical football team. They're not gonna 1091 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 6: be shy, They're not gonna be shocked by anything they see. 1092 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 6: They're gonna go in there and if it's gonna that 1093 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 6: game is gonna be a fistfight for Ohio State. I 1094 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 6: know they've got a lot of talent back, I get it. 1095 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 6: They nil they just ripped apart the transfer portal. But 1096 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 6: they were They didn't lose a lot of recruits. They 1097 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 6: lost a lot of guys that walked away also too. 1098 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 6: They didn't just gain people to keep everybody. They lost 1099 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 6: people to the NFL, and they lost recruits that transferred 1100 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 6: also to a player. 1101 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 4: Excuse me, their transferred also too. I just this idea 1102 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 4: that he can outlast a Michigan loss, absolutely, Bo jump 1103 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 4: in here, because you guys, he said, you brought this up. 1104 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 11: Well, I think everybody's kind of right here. I think 1105 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 11: if Ryan Day loses to Michigan and does not win 1106 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 11: at least a playoff game and have a chance to 1107 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 11: win the national title game, he's done. He's not coming back. 1108 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 11: Ohio State has spent way too much money this offseason 1109 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 11: to not set the baseline for that team at winning 1110 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 11: a national title. And then you add in just how 1111 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 11: insanely like neurotic Ohio State and Michigan fans are beating 1112 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 11: one another. It's it'd be a tough sell, especially if 1113 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 11: he is this to Sharon Moore in his first year. 1114 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: Okay, but two questions, Bo, all right. First, is if 1115 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: Ohio State's eleven and zero they lose to Michigan. He's 1116 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: coaching them, He's going to. 1117 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 11: Coach the playoffs. 1118 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 6: I disagree, Yes, yes, the hell you can't listen. Also 1119 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 6: to with this whole if thing, if was an eighth 1120 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 6: we'd all be high. 1121 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: So let's get rid of the thing is about it 1122 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: if hey, Ohio State might smack around Michigan this year. 1123 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 6: No, they're not smacked Ohio State. When was the last 1124 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 6: time they smacked around a good team. 1125 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 11: The only way I could see Ryan Day losing his 1126 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 11: job just for losing to Michigan is if Michigan is 1127 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 11: like a three or four win team and it's just 1128 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 11: an embarrassing But I don't think Michigan is going to 1129 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 11: be that so I but I do think the pressure 1130 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 11: is on Ryan Day, who both beat Michigan and win 1131 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 11: a national title. 1132 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 3: Ye. 1133 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: So follow up question, bo, This is the the insanity meter, right, 1134 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: Like we've got VJ and Martin. They're clinically insane right here, 1135 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: right right, Hell lose to Michigan not coaching the playoff. 1136 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: Here's the follow up question. So let's say Ohio State 1137 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: eleven and zero lose the Michigan horrible, but the playoff 1138 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: rolls around. They make it all the way to the 1139 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: title game and lose a close game, he's still out 1140 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: of a job ball going forward. 1141 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 11: I think it would just depend. It really would depend 1142 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 11: on what those games looked like and how the season 1143 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 11: unfolded for Ohio State because Ryan Day, I mean, if 1144 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 11: you read the stuff that has come out around Ohio 1145 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 11: State's offseason, he has not been particularly happy with how 1146 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 11: everything is unfolded in the last few years. So if 1147 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 11: he can't beat Michigan, the Ohio State boosters, they're not 1148 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 11: going to be happy with how much money they shelled out. 1149 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 11: I think winning a national title would certainly help. But 1150 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 11: if he gets to the national title game and falters there, Wow. 1151 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: You don't think let me bring Let me bring it 1152 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 4: other angle to you. Guys. 1153 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 6: They went and got a former college to NFL back 1154 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 6: to college coach for offensive coordinator. They brought in Chip 1155 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 6: Kelly to run this offense and make this thing go okay. Now, 1156 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 6: remember they was the offensive mind that urban Meyer leaned on. 1157 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 4: He had to now go get a guy. Think about 1158 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 4: Think about that for a second. 1159 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 6: He was the guy urban Meyer leaned on offensively got 1160 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 6: the head coaching job, and now he had to go 1161 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 6: get an offensive Junia. 1162 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 3: He can't do it. 1163 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 6: You gotta go get somebody else, and you still can't 1164 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 6: beat Michigan boas listen, it is. 1165 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 4: It is sadistic the way those fans live. 1166 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 3: It really is. 1167 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 4: I'm not that guy. I'm deep in it, bro, But 1168 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: even I tell some Michigan fans to chill out, like bro, 1169 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 4: stop like come on, man, which is crazy. We're adults, 1170 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 4: you're hugely let's stop, bro, we're adults with I don't 1171 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 4: even go back and forth with like Ohio State fan. 1172 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 4: Once you start in salting and calling NaNs, I just 1173 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: bly like, brodo we can talk track When you start 1174 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 4: getting personal, you start acting talking about you kill me 1175 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 4: and all that type of crappy. 1176 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 6: I know, but dude, they're not good. Trust They're not 1177 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 6: gonna come out to Los Angeles to do I know that. 1178 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 6: But but that that that that that hunger, that that 1179 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 6: intensity in the fan base, he will not make it. 1180 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I want. 1181 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: This is what I want for the college football season. 1182 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,479 Speaker 1: This is my best case scenario. Okay, is Ohio State 1183 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: they go eleven and oh sorry Jeff Schwartz, former Duck 1184 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, but Ohio State goes eleven and Oh, they 1185 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: lose to Michigan. They scratched their way to the championship game. 1186 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: They lose to Notre Dame on a last second field go. 1187 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: So we checked that box. We gotta get the Irish 1188 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: championship as well, and then Ryan Day is back. 1189 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 2: That's the perfect scenario here. 1190 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 11: My my thing on top of Chip Kelly is just 1191 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 11: the amount of actual player talent that they paid money for. Yes, 1192 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 11: like Caleb Downs, I think people don't understand how great 1193 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 11: of a football player Caleb Downs is is quinch. I 1194 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 11: think his name's quin Shawn Judkins running back. He's really good. 1195 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 4: Uh, they brought sermon isn't sermon isn't isn't survey back? 1196 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 4: I believe he's okay for a little bit. 1197 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trayvon's back, but that's I'm sorry, Trayvon. 1198 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Trayvon. That yeah, that kid, I'm sorry. 1199 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1200 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1201 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 6: Also to the last day, it's championship guys are bus okay. 1202 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 6: These scenarios of them not winning it all in him 1203 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 6: keeping a job, Give me give me a two liter 1204 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 6: bet on that. 1205 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 3: Take on that. 1206 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 2: Listen, mister VJ. Door dash Husky. 1207 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 4: Still owe me. 1208 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 3: You still know each other? 1209 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 4: You owe me wings. 1210 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 3: I don't know anything. Oh you don't owe me for. 1211 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 4: The Memphis Grizlies. 1212 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 3: Call No, I don't. 1213 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: We haven't done five years yet. 1214 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 3: That was five years. 1215 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: I still got two more seasons left with more. Yeah, 1216 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 2: it was a five year period. 1217 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: I said they'd win a champion. We still got years 1218 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: left on me. No, no, no, I need to see 1219 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: some Uber Eats, A couple of them. 1220 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 5: I do. 1221 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think two. Oh you too? 1222 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you too? 1223 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: I know? 1224 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 12: Man? 1225 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 6: Listen, dude, you're always jet setting going to concerts and 1226 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 6: professional and sporting evinces the word. You just in on 1227 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 6: Jupiter at a concert with your lady. You go, you 1228 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 6: travel through the galaxy. Bro, Come on, you're not home. 1229 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 4: Where am I gonna have a. 1230 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 2: Delivery wherever I'm at? 1231 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 4: Right? 1232 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 10: Like? 1233 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: Uber Eats is international, baby, right Like you don't have 1234 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: to be at You're a hope. 1235 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 6: I got a twenty five dollars car somebody gave me too. 1236 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm gonna send that to you. 1237 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: That's what I want to hear. 1238 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,399 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, all right right around 1239 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: the corner. Adam Kaplan will continue the football conversation here. 1240 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 3: VJ. 1241 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: Husky with us. I'm Brian No. 1242 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: Keep it locked right here, live from the Tirack dot 1243 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: Com studios on Fox Sports Radio. 1244 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's VJ. Husky. 1245 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm Brian No. We're live from the Tireck dot Com 1246 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: studios here. Very pleased to welcome in. Adam Kaplan, FSR 1247 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: NFL Insider inside the Birds Podcast. You know, Adam, we 1248 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: were just having a knockdown dragout about Ryan Day at 1249 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: the Io State being on the hot seat, right yeah, yeah, 1250 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking NFL wise, Okay, these seats are getting hotter. 1251 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 2: Whose seat do you think is smoldering a little bit more? 1252 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: Is it Sean McDermott in Buffalo or is it Nick 1253 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: Sirianni in Philly? 1254 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: Who do you use? 1255 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 3: Sirianni by far? Yes, Sanni by far? He look, I 1256 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 3: got it. 1257 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 13: They made the playoffs all three years, made the Super 1258 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 13: Bowl two years ago, but they had such a bad fall, 1259 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 13: losing six out of their final seven games and embarrassed 1260 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 13: themselves against Tampa Bay. 1261 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 3: They weren't competitive on either side of the football. 1262 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 13: They had to replace the defensive coordinator in the middle 1263 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 13: of the season, which is rare, and in his first 1264 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 13: year the Sean de Sciaho's now with the Rams. By 1265 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,879 Speaker 13: the way, not a bad coach, it just didn't work out. 1266 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 13: It just was a bad season for the Eagles. A 1267 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 13: lot of expectations were ten and one at one point, 1268 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 13: then they went that free fall. But also I put 1269 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 13: Doug Peterson that list. Ironically, former Eagles head coach won 1270 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 13: a Super Bowl with the Eagles. That put him up 1271 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 13: there for the coaches to watch. Or I wouldn't put 1272 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 13: McDermot up there. I'd put Peterson, Sirianni. I think those 1273 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 13: two and Mike McCarthy is my probably my top three. 1274 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 6: Adam was going to v J Vernon Husky here all 1275 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 6: so the players are talking some football with you, brother, 1276 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 6: Good to be bad? Yeah, always, man, it's football season, 1277 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 6: full and full force. Let's go to some quarterbacks. Man 1278 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 6: to deal's not done. No, and I are going back 1279 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 6: and forth for forty five minutes about Dak Prescott and 1280 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 6: shit and pay him now and not pay him now. 1281 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 6: But I want to focus on my man oose, my 1282 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 6: man uso down in South Florida. 1283 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 4: What are you hearing? 1284 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 6: I have of this feeling, Adam, It's gonna get done. 1285 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 6: And you know, sometimes deadline gets deals done right. By 1286 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 6: the time you get closer and closer, you anything you're hearing. 1287 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 6: Is there a number that's out there? Is there any movement? 1288 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 4: What you got for me? 1289 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 3: Man? Yes? 1290 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 13: So my understanding is they're just they're off on the 1291 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 13: average per season and the guarantee. He's got his people. 1292 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 13: You know, he's changed agents over the years. His people 1293 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 13: are looking for a certain number. It's a decent number, 1294 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 13: higher than the Dolphins want to pay. Dolphins want to 1295 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 13: do it. 1296 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 3: They're just not there yet. 1297 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 13: I'm kind of with you because remember now he is 1298 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 13: under contract, he's on a fifth year option. He's got 1299 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 13: to he has to report when the veterans report on Tuesday, 1300 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 13: where he gets fined. This fine are pretty significant, by 1301 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 13: the way, and they cannot be rescinded. But of course 1302 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 13: you can make it up when you get the deal. 1303 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 13: You could just tack it on the back end. But 1304 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 13: you get fine heavily, especially if it's not good. If 1305 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 13: you don't get a deal done, and it becomes coind 1306 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 13: of punitive. So if he's not there by Tuesday when 1307 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 13: they report, and the first practice, by the way, is 1308 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 13: the big one on Wednesday, that's when you know there's 1309 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 13: a holdout. 1310 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 3: That's when because just so people understand. 1311 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 13: You cannot be like, let's say you're franchise tag player 1312 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 13: and you don't sign, that's not a holdout. The only 1313 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 13: way you could be called a holdout is if you're 1314 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 13: under contracting withhold services. 1315 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 4: And just on the back end of that, if you 1316 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 4: were TUA, if you were in his shoes, you show up, 1317 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 4: two's there or not. 1318 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 13: Well, it's again, I'm not a player and I'm not 1319 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 13: an agent, but I would say this, I would want 1320 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 13: Jared Goff's contract. Jared Goff's contract to me, I think 1321 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 13: is very fair. And by the way, he had a 1322 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 13: massive contract with the Rams. You know, Sean McVay wanted 1323 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 13: him off. The roster goes to Detroit. Revis's career. They 1324 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 13: really should have made the Super Bowl. It was not 1325 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 13: his problem. Their defense collapsed against the Niners. But when 1326 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 13: you look at his extension, fifty three million per season, 1327 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 13: that's the number. That's that's the one he should be 1328 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 13: looking at. He's got to be Chalen Hurts. This deal 1329 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 13: I was done a year ago. The new deals. Now 1330 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 13: remember now we've got new deals. That's one to me 1331 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 13: that if I'm Tua. I'm looking at least match the 1332 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 13: total guarantees of one hundred and seventy million. That's one thing, 1333 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 13: But of course it's how much is fully guaranteed its signing. 1334 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 13: But if I'm him and his representation, I want at 1335 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 13: least fifty three million per season. 1336 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: He's Adam Kaplan FSR NFL insider with us yere okay, 1337 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: so juicy trade rumors with DeVante Adams, Brandon Aiyuk would 1338 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: you say, cap, would you go either neither or both 1339 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: on them to remain with their respective teams the whole 1340 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: season long? 1341 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 2: What would you say? 1342 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 13: The only way I see DeVante Adams being considered to 1343 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 13: be traded is if let's say, let's say by the 1344 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 13: trade deadline in late October. You know they're like three 1345 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 13: and eight. When it's Solvas, it's obvious they're they're not 1346 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 13: going to playoffs. 1347 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 3: That's a different story. 1348 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 13: I talked to someone I'm very high up in the 1349 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 13: front office who said, to me, this is the rumors 1350 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 13: are they're nonsense. There's nothing realistic. There's there's never been discussed. 1351 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 13: We don't We're not in the business of trading Hall 1352 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 13: of Fame players. I thought that was interesting. Now we 1353 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 13: also have to remember you have a new front office. 1354 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 13: New head coach Tom Telusco came over from the Chargers. 1355 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 13: He didn't draft DeVante Adams. Uh, you know he knows them. Obviously, 1356 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 13: his team, the Chargers went against former team went against him. 1357 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 13: But it just changes everything. If you traded DeVante Adams, 1358 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 13: you know, it's one thing. If they could have addressed it, 1359 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 13: It's kind of like Brandon ay you asked the question, Brian. 1360 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 13: The Niners entertained trade talks during the draft. Washington was 1361 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 13: one of the teams that they spoke with well the time, 1362 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 13: as John Lynch. John Lynch wouldn't confirm who they talk with. 1363 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 13: All he said was that if we were going to 1364 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 13: entertain it, you would have won a compensation for the 1365 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 13: twenty four draft. Well, we've had the draft. They can't 1366 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 13: help themselves. The Niners are The Niners are trying to 1367 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 13: get the Super Bowl. That's why they want to keep them. 1368 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 13: And by the way, they've tried. They've had extensive talks. 1369 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 13: But the reason why Ayuk has asked for a trade 1370 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 13: is all these new deals have gotten done and the 1371 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 13: you know, the asking price is going up. As he should, 1372 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 13: he should get thirty million more. Now the deal that 1373 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 13: I think will get done, I feel confident that the 1374 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 13: Niners would do the uh the deal that got done 1375 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 13: with Miami with Jalen Waddle, Walla got a great deal. 1376 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 13: Now he's a number two receiver. Remember now, Brandon Ayuk 1377 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 13: is not really their number one receiver. Now if you 1378 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 13: put them in Buffley, sure heck is, but he's not 1379 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 13: while it's getting paid twenty eight point two five million. 1380 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 2: That's a great contract. The structures really player friendly. 1381 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 13: I'm sure he'd want to beat that, but that's a 1382 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 13: deal another nine ers would do. 1383 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 3: But right now they're not there yet. 1384 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 6: Adam, we know the Chiefs are the cream of the crop. 1385 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 6: I said yesterday Martin and VJ to me, they're like 1386 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 6: the Patriots. Now in my eyes, I just won't pick 1387 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 6: against them until I see somebody consistently to keep them 1388 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 6: out at the Super Bowl. They've been to three out 1389 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 6: of the last four to going for three pat this year. 1390 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 6: So they're my pick, I tell you right now, listen 1391 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 6: till somebody beats them. 1392 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 4: They're my pick. 1393 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 6: Tell me though, on my love for the Ravens getting 1394 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,479 Speaker 6: Dereck Henry kind of having that taste in their mouth 1395 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 6: losing the AFC Championship game. Their coach, by a guy 1396 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 6: named Harball, is just in his damn DNA. I think 1397 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 6: Zay Flowers is the next Tyreek Hill. You match their 1398 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 6: numbers rookie and even their college numbers. But this kid's electric. 1399 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Man. 1400 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 6: This kid can really get going. They'll get their tight 1401 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 6: end back too. Am I just wishing on the Ravens 1402 01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 6: or do I think this is a team I think 1403 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 6: can really compete and really get over that hump. 1404 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 13: Yeah, Flowers is not anywhere near Tyrek killn explosiveness. He's 1405 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 13: a good player, though there's no doubt he had a 1406 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 13: great rookie season. He just doesn't run as well as Tyreek. 1407 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 13: He's not explosive. He's more of a slot receiver, a 1408 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 13: small guy. 1409 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 3: By the way. Heave Flowers about five nine one seventy five. 1410 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, but here's the thing. When you look at the Ravens, 1411 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 13: I'm not worried about their offense. This will be the 1412 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 13: second year for offensive coordinator Todd Monkin and Lamar Jackson. Together, 1413 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 13: they'll develop a better working relationship. And then you've got 1414 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 13: Derrek Henry. As you know, they try to trade for 1415 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 13: him at the trade deadline. They couldn't get it done. 1416 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 13: I'm not worried about that. I like the addition of 1417 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 13: Derek Henry. That's really going to be hard to defend 1418 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 13: them if your a defense's got to face him. I'm 1419 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 13: more concerned about Zach Orr the youngest defensive coordinator, in fact, 1420 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,479 Speaker 13: the youngest coordinator of offense, defensive special teams of the NFL, 1421 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 13: thirty one years old. He takes over for Mike McDonald 1422 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 13: play Kings and Art. You know, Mike McDonald got kind 1423 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 13: of criticized a little bit early in his first year. 1424 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 13: Then he got things turned around. He's terrific. He get 1425 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 13: my head coach after two seasons as a coordinator. So 1426 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 13: this is a big dealer, this big jump. So that 1427 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 13: to me is the one issue for putting the Ravens 1428 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 13: in the Super Bowl. Zach Gore has never called a 1429 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 13: game before, and that's an art, and he knows the 1430 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 13: defense he's played in and he played in before. He 1431 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 13: has Kurk cut short to a significant injury. But that's 1432 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 13: one thing that's a storyline for me for the Ravens. 1433 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: In training camp, cap we look at these new kickoff rules, 1434 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah right, kind of like the old XFL. Do you 1435 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: like the change and do you think we're gonna see 1436 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: a big difference this year compared to. 1437 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 13: A it's a different so at the I think it 1438 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 13: was at the NFL Owners meetings earlier this year that 1439 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 13: the we we got a great demonstration for the Competition Committee. 1440 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 13: And then they had some of these special teams coaches. 1441 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 13: We had Elate, Jim Fossil's son Bones Fossil, he was 1442 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 13: one of them. Chris Rizzy, Rizzy down Rizzy, excuse me, 1443 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 13: Darwn Rizzy is the special teams coach. I believe for 1444 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 13: the Saints, they can give a demonstration. It's completely different. 1445 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 13: You're gonna have dual returners back there. You know, the 1446 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 13: the you can't the the coverage. Teams can't get their 1447 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 13: start that they used to get. They're expecting, by the way, 1448 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 13: returns to be way up, so returns around you know, 1449 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 13: twenty five to thirty percent of time, they're expecting to 1450 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 13: double in the sixty percent range. It's going to be 1451 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 13: more exciting, folks, there's no question. And by it'll help players. 1452 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 13: It'll help these lower end of the roster guys. These returners, 1453 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 13: back up corners make the roster. 1454 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 3: No the I like this rule. I mean it's also 1455 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 3: going to help for concussions, lower the rate. No, it's 1456 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 3: all good. I've still the demonstration. I'm into it. 1457 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 13: And if you get to watch preseason, look for that 1458 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 13: because you're going to see something's completely different. 1459 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh, great stuff, Cap. 1460 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Hey man, we always appreciate you hopping on with us, 1461 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: and have a great Sunday. 1462 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 4: Man. 1463 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon. 1464 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 4: Job brother, enjoy preseason. 1465 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Yep, there he is Adam Kaplan, FSR NFL insider inside 1466 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the Birds podcast. Hey, we hand the baton. This is 1467 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: like the four by one hundred meter US Olympic team. Right, 1468 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: we go straight from Cap to Martin Weiss running the 1469 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: anchor leg right. 1470 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 2: By one hundred a mark for by one hundred. We're 1471 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: probably in like I'm taking like thirty three seconds or 1472 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: something like that. 1473 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 4: I just did the question in vj's voice, what you 1474 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,959 Speaker 4: want to run it? Big vanilla funny? No, I got it, Okay, 1475 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 4: I got. 1476 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 3: I got it. 1477 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 4: I like the turn, I like the turs, I like 1478 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 4: I like to run the corners. I like to run it. Yo, okay, 1479 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 4: third leg works for you. 1480 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, speaking of laps, Kyle Larson wins the Indy was 1481 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 8: the NASCAR Cup Series in Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Uh Tyler 1482 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 8: Reddick and Ryan Blaney came in second and third, Bubble 1483 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 8: Wallace finishing in fifth. Xanders shot six under sixty five 1484 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 8: in the final round of the Open Championship today to 1485 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 8: end at the top of the leader board nine under 1486 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 8: par for the tournament. 1487 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 4: It's the second major win of his career. 1488 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 8: Justin Rosenbilly Horsel tied second place, ended seven under par. 1489 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 4: Overall. 1490 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 8: Pro bow nose tackle packer Kenny Clark signed a six 1491 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 8: a three year, sixty four million dollar extension today. 1492 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: In baseball, the Giants beat. 1493 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 8: The Royals three to two, Jorge Solaire with a four 1494 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 8: hundred seventy eight foot bomb in the center field, longest 1495 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 8: home run so far of the twenty twenty fourth season 1496 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 8: that used to be Sho Halo Tony's. Both were at 1497 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 8: Corse Field. Oh sorry, they beat the Rockies, not the Royals. 1498 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 8: All right, there we go, Wait to go, Martin too 1499 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 8: busy worrying about the four by one relay. Brewers beat 1500 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 8: the Twins eight to seven. Reeese Hoskins hit a two 1501 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 8: run homer to break a five to five tie. Nationals 1502 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 8: beat the Reds five to two. That's a three game 1503 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 8: sweep over the weekend. James Wood, rookie left fielder, go 1504 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 8: ahead three run homer in the eighth inning. Philly shut 1505 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 8: out the Pirates six to nothing. Cardinals beat the Braves 1506 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 8: six to two. Max Freed. Braves also are left handed, 1507 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 8: placed on a fifteen day injured list with nerve information 1508 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 8: in his forearm. 1509 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 4: Royals beat the White Sox four to one. 1510 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 8: Seth Lugo, with his first career complete game, had three 1511 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 8: hits and one run, struck out six. Rays outscored the 1512 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 8: Yankees six to four. Aaron Judge with this thirty fifth 1513 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,479 Speaker 8: home run of the season as a three run bomb 1514 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 8: in the seventh inning. George Bringer homer twice as the 1515 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 8: Blue Jays beat the Tigers five to four. Padres beat 1516 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 8: the Guardians two to one, and in ten innings the 1517 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 8: Cubs two Diamondbacks one. Rangers also beat the Orioles three 1518 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 8: to two. Jonaheim that three run homer in the fourth 1519 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 8: back to you guys, you. 1520 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Know Martin, I'll throw this out there, man, if you 1521 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: ever screw up a score, it's all good. 1522 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,439 Speaker 3: You're human. 1523 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 4: Whatever. 1524 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,839 Speaker 1: I want to throw something out there, like shift the focus, 1525 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 1: just be like Brian probably had the Rockies beating the 1526 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Royals and then no one remembers, right like, it's all good. 1527 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I remember I've read that like twice now, 1528 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 8: and I remember seeing the longest home run was that 1529 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 8: course field, and I was like, well that doesn't what 1530 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 8: hold on a second, what were the Giants and Royals 1531 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 8: doing playing at Denver? 1532 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, keep that in your back pocket. It's 1533 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 2: all good. 1534 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 3: Hey. 1535 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio is teamed up with tirerack dot com 1536 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 1: to give away a set of four brand new tires 1537 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 1: valued it up to fifteen hundred dollars every two weeks 1538 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 1: this summer. That's right, three lucky listeners will receive a 1539 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: set of four new tires plus installation taxes and fees. 1540 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: That's valued it up to fifteen hundred dollar. It's the 1541 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: summer of tire Rack sweepstakes entered daily at Fox sports 1542 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: radio dot com to increase your chances to win. 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He 1553 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,520 Speaker 1: went Doug Peterson with Jacksonville, went Mike McCarthy with the Cowboys. 1554 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: That's a good top three, But man, I think that 1555 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: seat is hot. No Stefan Diggs over there now with 1556 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,759 Speaker 1: the Bills, the expectations for that team, they just haven't 1557 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: gotten deeper in the playoffs, some really tough losses to 1558 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. If they take a step back, Man, I 1559 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: could absolutely see him being out of a gig this 1560 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: next season. 1561 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 6: If you remember, you and I did a show a 1562 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 6: few summers ago going into preseason like we are now. 1563 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 6: It was after the year they didn't get the ball 1564 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,560 Speaker 6: in Kansas City and overtime and lost. Yep, that I 1565 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 6: believe there was either the divisional game because that was. 1566 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 1: The thirteen second game. It's like, bro squib it, you're 1567 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: not even having a worrying about worry about overtime. 1568 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1569 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 6: I remember saying their window was closed, and most people, 1570 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,799 Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's so stupid. 1571 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 4: VJ. No, their windows closed. Would they still be good, Yes, 1572 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 4: when they still win eleven twelve games, Yes, but the 1573 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 4: super Bowl window it's closed. And if you've watched over 1574 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 4: the last three years, they regress backwards. They're losing. Think 1575 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 4: about it. 1576 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 6: If they don't get the Steelers in that wildcard game 1577 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 6: at home, right, they don't get to the divisional round. 1578 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 6: If they have to go on the road and play 1579 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 6: that wildcard game, they were gonna lose wherever they were 1580 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 6: gonna go and play. So get into the divisional round 1581 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 6: just doesn't do it. You tell me, Josh Allen, I've been. 1582 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 4: Told he's the savior. He's gonna get them to a 1583 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 4: super Bowl. They're gonna win a championship, he's gonna win 1584 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 4: an MVP. 1585 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,639 Speaker 6: It's just it's not there. Coordinators have left, tables, gone 1586 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 6: to the Giants. Leslie Fraser just said. 1587 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 4: Oh I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna go take a year 1588 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 4: off and just no, and Diggs only played nice for 1589 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 4: so long. Gabe Davis walks out the door like they're 1590 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 4: losing some Pete Poyer is now down in South Beach 1591 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 4: patrolling the secondary, the safety position for the Dolphins. 1592 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 6: They've been losing pieces and it's sooner or later. Josh 1593 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 6: Allen just can't carry everything on his shoulders. Eighteen interceptions 1594 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 6: last year, over eighty turnovers in the last five years, 1595 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 6: which is far more than anybody else in the league. Yes, 1596 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 6: McDermott I was super shocked that he didn't include McDermott. 1597 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 4: I was also shocked that he included McCarthy in there. 1598 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 4: A little bit doesn't shock me. I get that one, right. 1599 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 2: They gotta have a deep run in the playoffs or 1600 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 2: he is. 1601 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones doesn't. He's too he's too loyal. 1602 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: By fall, Jason Garrett got the gate. You know, it 1603 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: took a little bit longer than people thought. 1604 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 4: A little bit longer. 1605 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 2: It took a lot longer than people thought. 1606 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 1: But I think this year, I think for Mike McCarthy, 1607 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: you gotta have a deep playoff run, or it's Curtains 1608 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: I do. 1609 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 2: But that's the thing with the hot seat conversation. 1610 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing to me is if you ask 1611 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: a different question, where take these four guys right, CAP's 1612 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 1: top three? He had Nick Sirianni, Doug Peterson, Mike McCarthy, 1613 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: I added Sean McDermott. Of those four coaches, who do 1614 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: you think is most likely to be replaced after this season? 1615 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I think it's Sean McDermott, and I think Mike McCarthy 1616 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: is in the team photo. They both might if there 1617 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: might be multiple coaches on. 1618 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 4: That just think Mike and Dallas would be mutual. I 1619 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 4: just don't think it'll be an outright he's fired. 1620 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I think it could if they're one and done 1621 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 1: come playoff time again, There's no way Jerry Jones can 1622 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: just run it back. 1623 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 4: I think. 1624 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,879 Speaker 11: I think the guys are way underrating how close Sirianni 1625 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 11: got almost being fired. 1626 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 2: They have two new coordinators, right, that's the step before and. 1627 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 11: You started to beg You started to get some stories 1628 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 11: about his relationship with Jalen Hurts not being that great. 1629 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get all that. 1630 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, I dislike Nick Sirianni. 1631 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 4: Am I just think Philly. I just think Philly is 1632 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 4: gonna be really good. 1633 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 6: I think the only thing that keeps me from putting 1634 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 6: Sirianni there and in Saquon Barkley, Ladies and gentlemen. 1635 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 11: Hello, they were good last year too, until they. 1636 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 2: Were and I know that's the thing, and then I'm 1637 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 2: like VJ. I believe in Philly more than I do Buffalo. 1638 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1639 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,679 Speaker 11: The thing that sticks in my head with Nick Sirianni 1640 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 11: is walking off the field against the Chiefs and trying 1641 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 11: to like start things with the fans. 1642 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1643 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 11: I if you're not winning games convincingly, like the Eagles 1644 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 11: never did last year, that's gonna wear thin really quick. 1645 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 11: It already kind of has. So if they I think 1646 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,760 Speaker 11: anything short of it's almost like the Ryan Day thing, 1647 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 11: Like anything short of winning the Super Bowl, I'm not 1648 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 11: certain that Nick Sirianni survives next year. 1649 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1650 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because I believe in the Eagles roster 1651 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: more than the Bills. But I believe in the Bills 1652 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: quarterback more than the Eagles quarter. 1653 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely right. 1654 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 2: You you believe in Jalen Hurts Josh absolutely so. 1655 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 4: He's been over your carriers team to Super Bowl. What's 1656 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 4: Josh Allen done? 1657 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 5: This? 1658 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 1659 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 12: Sarah? 1660 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 4: You and I have been doing this Jalen Hurstein for 1661 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 4: the last three years. This ain't nothing new between us. Wow, 1662 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,760 Speaker 4: this is nothing new between us being I remember having 1663 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 4: a conversation so you have you have. 1664 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: Like if you do your top ten quarterbacks list, You've 1665 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: got Jalen Hurts over Josh Allen. 1666 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I got him over Josh Allen. 1667 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 9: You are out of your freaking Why Why wouldn't I 1668 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 9: Because Josh Allen's way better That's why at what I 1669 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 9: don't know producing touchdowns. 1670 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so he ran into Mahomes a couple of times 1671 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: and now he's a bum, really not a bum, not 1672 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: a bum. 1673 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 6: But I say I'll take Jay. I'll take Jalen Hurts 1674 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 6: right now over Josh Allen. Absolutely, audience, Josh Apple, turnover Allen. 1675 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 6: He going he gonna give it away. 1676 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: The guy's had as almost there's many touchdowns the last 1677 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 1: four years as Mahomes. 1678 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 2: I get, I give it the guy the second on 1679 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 2: the list, like rushing. 1680 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 6: Throwing does an equate the win and can't get him 1681 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 6: to a super Bowl? Jayalen Jalen Hurts. And this is 1682 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 6: something people don't want to admit. Jalen Hurt not only 1683 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 6: got Philly to a super Bowl, he all plays Mahomes 1684 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 6: in that game. He has the fumble with the scooping 1685 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,640 Speaker 6: score right before the half. That was the mistake that 1686 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 6: really lost in the game. It wasn't the flag that 1687 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 6: set up Kansas City for a field goal could and 1688 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 6: I banged on Jayleen for that. Jaylen's is my god. 1689 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 6: But you gotta hold on to the football. 1690 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 3: J you do. 1691 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 6: You can't give that touchdown up right before the half. 1692 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 6: He an't playing Mahomes that day. 1693 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at passer rating right here, and hold on. 1694 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find Jalen Hurts. I don't care about 1695 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't care about past. 1696 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 2: Why would you care about passer rating? 1697 01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: It's just throwing touchdowns, interceptions, completion rate. 1698 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 2: Who cares about passer rating? 1699 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 4: Right? 1700 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 2: Scrawling sc man? Good lord, he's under Kyler Murray. Goodness. 1701 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 1: He's twentieth on the list in passer rating. He had 1702 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: fifteen interceptions. That's just below Josh Allen. You guys a 1703 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 1: turnover machine too. 1704 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,799 Speaker 4: No, last last year he had an interception. 1705 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 6: He had an interception phil year, but also no thirty 1706 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 6: eight forty eight excuse me, thirty eight fifty eight and 1707 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 6: yards twenty three touchdown he had. 1708 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 4: Like I said, he had the fifteen interceptions. And I 1709 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 4: won't defend that. 1710 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 6: But if you're asking me who I'm taking right now, 1711 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 6: sixty four percent completion percenters thirty four. 1712 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 4: Seventeen Overwhilmers a record like he like, stop, listen, just 1713 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 4: watch this year. Then that's all I'm gonna say. That's hey, 1714 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 4: we'll say this. We'll see this season. 1715 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Oh dude, Like, if you gave Josh Allen, AJ Brown 1716 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: and DeVante Smith and Dallas Goddard and you gave Jalen Hurts, like, 1717 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 1: we'll give you Khalil Shakir. 1718 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, do that. 1719 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,280 Speaker 5: Gain give me no gud. 1720 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 4: You know what, Give me all the weapons, Give me 1721 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 4: all the weapons, Josh Allen, give me, gave David give give, 1722 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,639 Speaker 4: give Jalen hurt Gay give Yeah, don't do that, give him. 1723 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: Those weapons to Let's let's pick this back up at 1724 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. You gotta yell about quarterbacks. 1725 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: Let's take a rescpite coming up next. Okay, there is 1726 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: a funny story that gets us thinking about our own 1727 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: funny stories. We'll have some fun around the corner. 1728 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 2: He's VJ. Husky. 1729 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm Brian. No, stay with us right here on Fox 1730 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio. 1731 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 3: He's VJ. 1732 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:29,759 Speaker 2: Husky. 1733 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm Brian know. Okay, VJ. So we've been I would 1734 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: say yelling at each other with love today, Describe it. 1735 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, we yell because we love, That's why, you know. 1736 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: But take it a little break and we'll get right 1737 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 1: back to it. I have a feeling Jason Tatum with 1738 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:58,719 Speaker 1: Team USA before. They're impressive. One point victory over South Sudan. 1739 01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,919 Speaker 2: Barely impressive. 1740 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 4: I'm about to say, don't don't get married. 1741 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 3: Gone. 1742 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, them hurt people right there. 1743 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out South Sudan. 1744 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 3: They can't git it. 1745 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:12,879 Speaker 2: Shoutouts outside. 1746 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 3: So uh. 1747 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Yes, of the Boston Celtics. He was giving 1748 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: the cold shoulder when he was a young eleven year 1749 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: old kid. He tells this story about wanting to get 1750 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Lebron's autograph and it did not work out. 1751 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 4: Check this out. 1752 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 2: Funny story here. 1753 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,679 Speaker 10: He kind of told me no. In Memphis a long 1754 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 10: time ago. Larry Hughes is my dad best friend. They 1755 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,600 Speaker 10: played on the calves together. My mom took me to 1756 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 10: a game in Memphis. I wanted to meet Lebron and 1757 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 10: I wanted to get a picture with him in an 1758 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 10: autograph and there's a lot of people back there. He 1759 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 10: was like, I'm out, I gotta go, And I got 1760 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 10: in the car and started crying, but we cool now. 1761 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,600 Speaker 3: He had me from autograph and I give it to 1762 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 3: him that I was like, I love it. That's why 1763 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 3: you dunked me though, That's why you dunked. 1764 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 10: On me in the Cow in the Cows finals to 1765 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 10: get backy by the way, that's why you had that haircut. 1766 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 4: That's the last time you had the haircut when you 1767 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 4: played them. 1768 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're talking about the twenty eighteen Eastern Conference Finals 1769 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: and Tatum dunked on them. 1770 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 2: But how about that eleven years old. 1771 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Lebron's autograph and Lebron's like, I'm out 1772 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: peace and young Tatum's crying in the car. Crazy that 1773 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: they're on the same Olympic team now and going up 1774 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,719 Speaker 1: against each other in the NBA. 1775 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 2: What a story. 1776 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Huh. 1777 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a cool story, even even for Lebron's response. Man, 1778 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 4: I like that, Yeah, yeah, is that why you yamed 1779 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 4: on me like that? 1780 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 6: That's why you dunked on me, and that shows That 1781 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 6: shows the cool side of Lebron that I just wish 1782 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 6: we saw. I saw, even myself, I'll speak to me, 1783 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 6: that's the cool side of him. I wish I saw 1784 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,680 Speaker 6: more and would probably make me lean more to his 1785 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 6: side a lot of more times than I do. But 1786 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,760 Speaker 6: you know it was it was organic. That's why I 1787 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 6: like that. As far as Tatum goes, hey, look man, 1788 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 6: you're making light skinned brothers look bad. 1789 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 4: Okay, you don't tell, don't tell these stories. Got in 1790 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 4: the car, got my car, and I cried, no, yeah. 1791 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no dumb down on that. Do you have 1792 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: any autograph stories? Are you an autograph guy ever in 1793 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 1: your life? 1794 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 6: The best one I ever got was Reggie White, Man, Terry, 1795 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 6: I got Reggie White's autograph nine. 1796 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 4: Did you go up to him? 1797 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 6: Yes, I walked right up to him. My mom snuck 1798 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 6: us around the back of the where the coach used 1799 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 6: to play. She was stationed a Fort ben Harrison where 1800 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 6: therefore prese's a game, and she snuck us through the 1801 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,640 Speaker 6: gate all the way up to the bus when they 1802 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,560 Speaker 6: were leaving. He actually asked to borrow my pen to 1803 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,679 Speaker 6: write a Bible verse. 1804 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,840 Speaker 4: Down for this lady. Oh wow, that's not my favorite 1805 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 4: autograph story, Reggie White. 1806 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, very cool stuff. 1807 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: All right, we get to our top ten quarterback list, 1808 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you now it might lead to verbal fisticuffs. 1809 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, We got a list that will melt your mind. 1810 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: Over here, we're talking quarterbacks. 1811 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 3: In just a minute. 1812 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the tirack dot Com studios. 1813 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Tire rack dot com. 1814 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 1: We'll help get you there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, 1815 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. 1816 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 1: Tirack dot com the way tire buying should be. 1817 01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 3: All right, VJ. 1818 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: We're both very opinionated, especially when it comes to ball, 1819 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to NFL quarterbacks. 1820 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 2: Right, there was a list that came out ESPN. 1821 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 1: They are about eighty executives, coaches, and scouts. They had 1822 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: their top ten. Who cares what they think? Right, it's 1823 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: about us here. 1824 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 6: I'm laughing because Bo just walked in doing the break egos. 1825 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 6: So are we doing this? 1826 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,639 Speaker 4: ESPN? I'm like, uh no, we're doing our own damn. 1827 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're doing our own thing. 1828 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 4: I don't care about their. 1829 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. 1830 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Let's find common ground to begin there, all right, and 1831 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 1: then it might go. 1832 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 4: Haywy okay, oh it's going to but okay, we both. 1833 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Have mahomes Number one, do we not come on? 1834 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 8: Man? 1835 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 4: Bro it, come on man. 1836 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 2: It's the biggest lay up there is, and I'm sure 1837 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 2: you see it too. 1838 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,599 Speaker 1: I see many people that are like, oh no, I've 1839 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 1: got this guy number one, not Mahomes, And it's like, 1840 01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,679 Speaker 1: stop talking right now. Why would you say someone's better 1841 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: than Holmes right here, right now. 1842 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 2: That's insane. 1843 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 6: Nah, it's mahone and it's mahoney, just simply because the 1844 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 6: words I wrote down league's best work ethic. 1845 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 4: He's got great fruits. Man, when you watch Quarterback, the documentary, 1846 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 4: I told my mam, we talk about this man on 1847 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 4: our show, he made me a fan. I wasn't a 1848 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 4: fan before Quarterback. 1849 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 6: I know he's great, and I know he's the best 1850 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 6: in the league, but watching his preparation, watching the way 1851 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 6: he is really intense. I know, we get lost in 1852 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 6: the current the frog voice and all of that stuff, 1853 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 6: and you know, kind of all the showy stuff with 1854 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,560 Speaker 6: TikTok with his brother and his wife and all of that. 1855 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 6: But when you just put the tape on, when that 1856 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,240 Speaker 6: man's out there limping around on a you know, damn 1857 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 6: there broken ankle and he's telling the coach no, you know, no, no, 1858 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 6: f that I'm going back in. He's looking at Andy 1859 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,720 Speaker 6: Reid like, no, I'm going back in. He's looking at 1860 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 6: the backup like, hey, man, sit your ass down, I'm 1861 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 6: going back in the game. I'm the type of guy 1862 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 6: you win me over with that, because that means you 1863 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 6: really want it. Man, it's not for show. It's not 1864 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 6: for it's not no flip flamman fluff. This guy is 1865 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 6: the real deal. He's this airs Tom Brady. I'm betting 1866 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 6: against him, absolutely number one on everybody's list. 1867 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 4: It's got It should be Patrick Mahomes. 1868 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 2: It should be the guy. 1869 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because not the last 1870 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,599 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run, the Super Bowl run before last season, 1871 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 1: right where he had the ankle injury against Jacksonville. He's 1872 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: really just waddling around out there for the next couple 1873 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,559 Speaker 1: of games, including the Super Bowl against the Eagles, where 1874 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: he's limping around. Remember he got hit before halftime and 1875 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: he's limping off the field. The next thing you know, 1876 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, he's got a big rush that 1877 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:38,599 Speaker 1: sets them up. 1878 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 2: And he's just the best. 1879 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: The creativity, the production, the Super Bowls plural now three 1880 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 1: of them, Like, how can you say in your right mind, Yeah, 1881 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're on the same page. No, give me 1882 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 1: your list here first, VJ. I'll write them down. I'm 1883 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: taking comprehensive notes. No problem one through ten. Who you 1884 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 1: got all right? 1885 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 5: So? 1886 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to make you mad early in this list. 1887 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,360 Speaker 6: Start from ten and will work our way up. Okay, yeah, 1888 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 6: I want to make you mad early. So and ten 1889 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,360 Speaker 6: I got Justin Herbert. Okay, I just I like his size. 1890 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 6: I love his arm strength. I understand that. Listen, he 1891 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 6: had a head coach, and no one liked he had 1892 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 6: a head coach. Everybody wanted fired. He got hurt last year. 1893 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 6: But when you do put the tape on it, you 1894 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 6: see the talent six four, big arm. He's a quiet leader. 1895 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 6: Just love his Maxi's competitiveness. I think Jimmy Burgers is 1896 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 6: just the perfect coach for this guy. I look for 1897 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 6: big things from the Chargers. At number nine, I got 1898 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 6: your guy, Josh Apple turnover Allen, I got him at 1899 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 6: number He turns the. 1900 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 4: Ball and over way too much. 1901 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 6: Yes, wow, Yes, I got him at ninth. He turns 1902 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 6: the ball over way too much. 1903 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 4: And for a guy that was supposed to go to 1904 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 4: super bawls and win super balls and all the stuff 1905 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 4: that they tell us, all the stuff Vegas tell us, 1906 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 4: it's better on all the stuff. The TV and radio 1907 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 4: guys tell us this is supposed to be the guy 1908 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 4: still and he, like I said, they had their shot 1909 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 4: in Kansas City. I don't blame him for that game. 1910 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 4: He played his ass off that day. But since then, 1911 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 4: since then, turns the ball over in the post You 1912 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,280 Speaker 4: talk about Dak in the postseason. Yeah, let's look at 1913 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 4: Josh Allen in the postseason. Also, number height, Give me 1914 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 4: Jared Golf, Give me Jared Golf right here. 1915 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 2: Man, he had cross over Josh Allen. 1916 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, he's a better quarterback. Josh Allen is a 1917 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:12,559 Speaker 6: big runner. 1918 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 4: He's got it. He's he's got a good arm, so 1919 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,679 Speaker 4: he's got a great arm. I'm not a good josh 1920 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 4: Son's got a great arm. But quarter back. 1921 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, give me, give me, give me, give me, give 1922 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 6: me Jared Golf right here. Loved the production last year. 1923 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 6: Forty five to seventy five, the touchdowns. It's not gonna 1924 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:27,760 Speaker 6: go lose a game for you, right, You just said 1925 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 6: it yourself. Had the Rams in the Super Bowl, had 1926 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 6: that Rams in the Super Bowl, their defense let them 1927 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,440 Speaker 6: down against San Francisco. 1928 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 1: And in minor correction, the refs had the Rams in 1929 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the phantom missile. 1930 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, Sat. 1931 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1932 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 6: Mark Martin definitely loves that one right there at number seven, 1933 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 6: Give me my guy to him, Give me my guy 1934 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,679 Speaker 6: to at number seven led the league in passing last 1935 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 6: year and in twenty twenty two led the league in 1936 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 6: passing percentage of sixty nine percent. 1937 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,439 Speaker 4: And that, Hey, there's that category you like, QBR the rating. 1938 01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:58,840 Speaker 3: Baby. 1939 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 6: He led the league in a one oh five point five. 1940 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,600 Speaker 6: Career record is thirty two and nineteen. Last year is 1941 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 6: twenty nine to fourteen. I want to see those interceptions 1942 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 6: come down, of course, put the prior year before that. 1943 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 6: I think he only threw like eight or nine interceptions 1944 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 6: last year too. Also second in the league only by 1945 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 6: point two decimal points as far as completion of percentage 1946 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 6: behind one Dak Prescott basically seventy percent completion percentage. Speaking 1947 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 6: of Dak, put him at number six for me. Fifty 1948 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 6: five forty five to sixteen, six thirty six touchdowns, only 1949 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 6: nine interceptions, sixty nine percent completion percentage. I know we 1950 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,599 Speaker 6: have to get to the postseason. With all that stuff. 1951 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna knock most of what you said about him, 1952 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 6: but I just want to make sure that we keep 1953 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 6: it fair across the board. If that's what we're gonna 1954 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,600 Speaker 6: say about Dak, then let's judge these other quarterbacks in 1955 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 6: the postseason two that aren't winning, that's been getting big money. 1956 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 6: Number five, my guy man, Hall of Famer Martin Done 1957 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,559 Speaker 6: thinks so, but I know he is. Matthew Stafford. That's 1958 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,719 Speaker 6: number five for me. Has a super Bowl record. Listen 1959 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 6: pookin the coup rookie record right Who's his quarterback? Matthew Stafford. 1960 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,559 Speaker 6: This is Martin's topic right here. Megatron broke the record. 1961 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 6: Who was his quarterback? Matthew staff Cooper cup then broke 1962 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 6: that record. Who's this quarterback? Matthew Stafford? Man Detroit makes 1963 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 6: some Detroit made a lot look bad okay over those years, 1964 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 6: but he comes here, gets McVeigh, gets some weapons, has 1965 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 6: a competent, a competent front office, a competent ownership, and 1966 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 6: they going the win the super Bowl. At number four. 1967 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 6: Give me Joe Burrow aka the Model. Don't ever wear 1968 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 6: that backout jacket again, Joe Burrow. But I do like 1969 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 6: this guy man when he is healthy. Joe Burrow is 1970 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 6: the goods. I mean, I can't hate on the guy 1971 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,840 Speaker 6: big arm he's a winner. Like I said, he's the 1972 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,519 Speaker 6: only guy we've seen go toe to toe with Mahomes 1973 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 6: and if not for that penalty, they may go in 1974 01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 6: there and beat them back to back. 1975 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 4: AFC Championship games. 1976 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 6: Brian, Now, he didn't have, you know, glorious games, but 1977 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 6: he's a main reason why they were there. At number three, 1978 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 6: gimme Jalen Hurts, I'll take him at number three. Dual 1979 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,759 Speaker 6: weapon quarterback record thirty four seventeen, sixty four percent completion. 1980 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 4: He's been to two Pro Bowls, been to a Super Bowl. 1981 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 4: He's also a good runner. 1982 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,640 Speaker 6: I know he's got weapons around him, but why are 1983 01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 6: we criticizing quarterbacks for having the weapons around That's what 1984 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 6: football is all about. Also too, really interesting status found 1985 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 6: in twenty two. He was sacked thirty eight times in 1986 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl year that they went. Last year only 1987 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 6: sacked thirty six times in a year where everything kind 1988 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 6: of fell off. Kind of tells me, if you protect 1989 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 6: this guy, if you gave, you'll protect this guy a 1990 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 6: little better than that. You can probably go get you 1991 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 6: a Limbardi and it might save Sirianni. Also, too, are 1992 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 6: one hundred more throws from twenty two to twenty three 1993 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 6: still completed sixty five percent. 1994 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,600 Speaker 4: They put more on his plate last year, and I 1995 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:30,640 Speaker 4: thought he answered the call. 1996 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,360 Speaker 6: Number two for me, two time MVP Lamar Jackson, game changer, 1997 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 6: supreme football weapon. 1998 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 4: I like the numbers. Two time MVP twenty. 1999 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 6: Four touchdowns, sixty seven percent complettion of percentage for a 2000 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,960 Speaker 6: guy who so called can throw thirty six seventy eight, 2001 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 6: loved the team that's around him. His quarterback record. How 2002 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,840 Speaker 6: about this fifty eight to nineteen for a guy that 2003 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 6: can't throw in the guy that's so called can't win. 2004 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 6: That's a winning record right there. And then we all 2005 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 6: know who number one is. I call him iron Man 2006 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 6: Pat Mahomes. That's iron Man right there. 2007 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,720 Speaker 4: Man. That guy just does so much. When you think 2008 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,720 Speaker 4: he's got nothing left and he's got no more moves left, 2009 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 4: he pulls something else out of his hat. He's the 2010 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,760 Speaker 4: league best. That's my top ten right now. There's a 2011 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 4: lot of work to be done here on this list. 2012 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 2013 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,040 Speaker 1: If this is a house, I'm like, I keep the 2014 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 1: coffee table, keep the coffee table in the drapes. Everything 2015 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 1: else can go. Everything else? Can you get rid of everything? Okay, 2016 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,679 Speaker 1: let's start with the positive. I agree with you on Mahomes, 2017 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: that's the most obviously. Yeah, he's number one. I have 2018 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Stafford number five as well. Okay, so that's our common 2019 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 1: ground here. The biggest beef I have, it's close. Probably 2020 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,280 Speaker 1: the biggest beef I have is Jalen Hurts being a 2021 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 1: top three. 2022 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,639 Speaker 2: Quarterback right now. That's come on, man. 2023 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Off the season, he had the guy through twenty three 2024 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,479 Speaker 1: touchdowns fifteen interceptions with the talent around him one of 2025 01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 1: the best offensive lines in football. AJ Brown, DeVante Smith, 2026 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. He was banged up at portions during the season. 2027 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: That is a great supporting cast. There's no way your 2028 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,639 Speaker 1: passer rating should be below ninety. He's at eighty nine 2029 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: point one with that supporting cast. 2030 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 2: That's a joke. 2031 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 1: He's not number three right now. I don't even have 2032 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 1: him in my top ten. Sorry, I can't do that. 2033 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,719 Speaker 1: The other big disagreement that we will have is Lamar 2034 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen. It is a football crime to have 2035 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson ranked ahead of Josh Allen right now. It's 2036 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,280 Speaker 1: not even freaking close. And I know Lamar Jackson has 2037 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,800 Speaker 1: his two MVPs, and I don't make that want to 2038 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 1: make the guy sound like a dud, because he's not. 2039 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 1: He's supremely talented. He's arguably the most talented player in 2040 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: the NFL right now. He's a highlight reel. I'm not 2041 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,519 Speaker 1: trying to say he's a dud, but at the same rate, 2042 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: he is the most overrated player in the entire NFL. 2043 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,080 Speaker 1: And this is why, even though he's a mentally talented, 2044 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 1: the dude diss uppears in the playoff time when it 2045 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 1: matters most. And I don't need him to be a 2046 01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties dropback style quarterback. That doesn't need to be 2047 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 1: the case, but I need him or anybody to be 2048 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: more precise as a passer because he hasn't given us 2049 01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 1: the same amount of production running wise in the playoffs. 2050 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 1: And then you see his warts as a passer, perfect 2051 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 1: example in the playoff loss to the Chiefs this past season. 2052 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: First touchdown for the Chiefs, great throw by Mahomes, tight window, 2053 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: little back shoulder in the end zone to Travis Kelcey. 2054 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton was all over him. You will never see 2055 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson do that. And that's the beef I have 2056 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 1: with him. And then when it comes to the playoffs. 2057 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,880 Speaker 1: And this is the separator. You can give me all 2058 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 1: these numbers age one seventy nine percent of his regular 2059 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 1: season game to whatever. That's impressive, until we get to 2060 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. What is Lamar do come playoff time? Well, 2061 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,880 Speaker 1: he's two and four and he absolutely shrinks. He has 2062 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,560 Speaker 1: as many playoff wins as he does MVPs. That's unacceptable. 2063 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Thrown six touchdowns, six picks. Meanwhile, Josh Allen twenty one touchdowns, 2064 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 1: four picks. Josh Allen's passer rating is one hundred in 2065 01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Lamar is seventy five point seven. Just as 2066 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,440 Speaker 1: for reference, that's lower than Mac Jones of the Patriots 2067 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,600 Speaker 1: his passer rating last season. And Mac Jones is a 2068 01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,800 Speaker 1: backup right now in Jacksonville, Like, Lamar's done worse than that? 2069 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 4: How far Lamar gotten in the playoffs AMC Championship game? 2070 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 4: Right farah? And then what how far? Okay, how far 2071 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,400 Speaker 4: Josh Allen got in the playoffs? 2072 01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has done way more. Josh Allen has proved himself. 2073 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 1: They went toe to toe, they played a playoffs game together. 2074 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,720 Speaker 1: What happened in that game? Lamar threw a pick six 2075 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 1: and lost a low scoring game. 2076 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,160 Speaker 6: Is that the game up at Buffalo? Correct, that's right, Yeah, 2077 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 6: the game up of a game up in Buffalo. So 2078 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 6: just a few things on uh, back to Janalen Hurts. 2079 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 6: Just really fast, you talk about aj Brown. I also 2080 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:53,720 Speaker 6: want to point out in six of the first eight 2081 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 6: games last year here was yours totals one seventy seven 2082 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,599 Speaker 6: and one thirty. He only had one more one hundred 2083 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 6: yard game the rest of the season. Yeah, exactly, So 2084 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 6: let's not also act like that, Lamar, excuse me that 2085 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,599 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts did not have Philly sitting at ten and one, 2086 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 6: and we're the best team in the league. There's a 2087 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 6: lot that fell apart with Philly last year. We just 2088 01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,160 Speaker 6: talked about, Sirianni. I am not gonna let you guys 2089 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,840 Speaker 6: lay that at Jalen Hurts his lap. I bet we're 2090 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,479 Speaker 6: not gonna do that. He was also banged up in 2091 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,600 Speaker 6: hurt last year too, So let's make sure that we 2092 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,639 Speaker 6: throw that in the Josh Allen thing. We just aren't 2093 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 6: gonna see. That's fine, Lamar Jackson. I'll also fight back 2094 01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 6: against because you just said it yourself. 2095 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 4: He could be other than Tyreek Hill. 2096 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 6: I think he's the most dangerous weapon in the entire 2097 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,920 Speaker 6: league other than Tyreek Hill, which means every time he 2098 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:48,040 Speaker 6: tucks that thing, every time he drops back, you think something. 2099 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,679 Speaker 4: Great is about to happen. Because of his athletic ability, 2100 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,400 Speaker 4: because of his explosive of because of his game change. 2101 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,679 Speaker 4: He's a game changer. He changes games play to play 2102 01:33:58,760 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 4: to play. 2103 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 6: Also too, he's never never had a really good true 2104 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:06,680 Speaker 6: like guy that splits out. 2105 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 4: Why, let's just get real. His best weapon is just tighten. 2106 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,160 Speaker 6: I used to say this about Cam Newton, and for 2107 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,640 Speaker 6: all his deficiencies, people want to point out he has 2108 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 6: Steve Smith for a few years when he first got 2109 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,800 Speaker 6: in the league. After that, his best weapon was an 2110 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 6: average speed tight end by the name of Greg Osen. 2111 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:20,639 Speaker 3: Who was good. 2112 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,680 Speaker 6: But that's you can't you You're not winning nothing when 2113 01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 6: that's your best unless you're the best quarterback in the league. 2114 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 4: Because the first thame he wanted to throw out as well, 2115 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 4: Kelsey does it. I mean, man Mahomes does it with Kelsey. 2116 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, but Mahomes is the best guy on the planet, 2117 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 6: so he could probably do it with anybody. 2118 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 4: So he's excluded from this conversation. All the other great 2119 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that we can name they got dudes to throw 2120 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 4: the ball to. They got guys. 2121 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 6: He doesn't have a guy that split out why and 2122 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 6: has never had a guy that you can go okay, 2123 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 6: third and night, Justin Jefferson at Buffalo and Kirk Cousins. 2124 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 4: With fourth and nineteen. 2125 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, just throw it up and I'll go one handed 2126 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 6: over to the right guys that can do that, Brian, 2127 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,760 Speaker 6: He's never had that. 2128 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, A couple of things with Mark Andrews, 2129 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,600 Speaker 1: he's one of the better tight ends in football. And 2130 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 1: Jay Flowers is a really good young wide receiver. 2131 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:12,800 Speaker 3: I hear you. 2132 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:13,920 Speaker 2: I'll meet you halfway. 2133 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,639 Speaker 1: It's not what Joe Burrow has around him in Cincinnati, right, Hey, 2134 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:18,559 Speaker 1: it's not so. 2135 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:20,360 Speaker 5: Right. 2136 01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely you take that into account. 2137 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 4: That's fine. 2138 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,120 Speaker 1: But he's got enough to do more than he's done. 2139 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 1: And I expect more from a two time MVP. 2140 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:30,599 Speaker 4: And I don't know why. 2141 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 1: There's like this grace that Lamar Jackson gets for laying 2142 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 1: egg after egg in the playoffs, and I don't understand it. 2143 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I think the more that you accomplish winning two m vps, 2144 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 1: the more should be expected. And it works the opposite. 2145 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 2: Way with Lamar. It's just, oh, you know you'll get 2146 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 2: him next time. 2147 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 4: People you think people I think people kill Lamar, you 2148 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:55,599 Speaker 4: think people lay off of them. 2149 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 3: I do, I do I think that. 2150 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Listen if I'll tell you this, Jack Prescott has gotten 2151 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 1: way more backlash than Lamar. 2152 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:04,640 Speaker 2: Jackson has gotten. 2153 01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 4: Starn a helmet, absolutely Starna helmet. 2154 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: But that's the crazy thing to me, is Lamar has 2155 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,000 Speaker 1: done more, yet he gets more grace. It normally doesn't 2156 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,880 Speaker 1: work like that. Lamar is a classic case, and a 2157 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of people fall into this trap. They act like 2158 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,519 Speaker 1: the whole game is just the clips you see on 2159 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,960 Speaker 1: Sports Center, of course, right, And I'm not saying you're 2160 01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 1: doing that, VJ. I promise, I'm not saying you're doing that, 2161 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,439 Speaker 1: but a lot of people do. Where Yes, he's got 2162 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 1: this jaw dropping highlight, real ability. He is sensational at 2163 01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,640 Speaker 1: times and then at other times he's giving you a 2164 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,920 Speaker 1: passer rating of seventy five point seven in six playoff games. 2165 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,720 Speaker 2: That's unacceptable. 2166 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 1: And so you can show me the highlight of when 2167 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,799 Speaker 1: he caught the ball himself against the Chiefs. 2168 01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,640 Speaker 2: That was insane. I can't believe anybody did that. 2169 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 1: And then you look at the rest of the game 2170 01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,679 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, gosh, well he missed that throw 2171 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 1: and that was a missed play right there, and oh 2172 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,519 Speaker 1: he only completed that many. 2173 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 2: Passes and yet yeah, yikes. That's the whole thing. 2174 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 1: You have to look at the totality, not just the 2175 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,840 Speaker 1: highlight real plays. But I think because he produces those 2176 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, I think too often he 2177 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,559 Speaker 1: does get too much of the benefit of the doubt 2178 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 1: when I think he should be getting criticized a lot more. 2179 01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,680 Speaker 1: When you're a number one seed, you're fourteen and two 2180 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 1: and you lay an egg at home against the Titans 2181 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 1: and the playoffs unacceptable. 2182 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:31,640 Speaker 4: It is unacceptable. 2183 01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,800 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not going to defend any of that, 2184 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,960 Speaker 6: but there's also whole narratives that just need to be tade. 2185 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,800 Speaker 4: That Titans game. That was a that was a that 2186 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,560 Speaker 4: was a mic rabel put you in your mouth. That 2187 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 4: was a good football code. 2188 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,679 Speaker 6: It was raining, it was wet, it was sloppy, and hey, 2189 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,680 Speaker 6: they didn't make the plays they needed to make. 2190 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 4: Let's also point out that Zayflower, who I love, fumbles on. 2191 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 6: The goal line against the Chiefs, going into the end 2192 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,519 Speaker 6: zone and it goes out of the end zone and 2193 01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:58,240 Speaker 6: it's a touchback. 2194 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,280 Speaker 4: So that touch So that's what else taking that's a touchdown? 2195 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 4: Taking off? 2196 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,559 Speaker 2: What else happened? 2197 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 3: What else? 2198 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,519 Speaker 4: The offensive coordinator decided not to run the ball? 2199 01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 2: That was That's true, that's true. What else happened? 2200 01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 4: Egan rushing the last twenty four months? 2201 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 3: All right? 2202 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:11,439 Speaker 2: What else? 2203 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 10: That? 2204 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 2: Lamar throwing a pick? Yeah, and the like triple coverage? 2205 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:15,679 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 2206 01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 6: Because I got an answer for that too at some point. Man, Okay, 2207 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 6: I got it. You gotta force it. Nothing else is working. 2208 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,880 Speaker 6: We're not running the ball fumbles into. 2209 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,479 Speaker 2: You can't no, no, no, no no. 2210 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 1: You can't call out Zay and the offensive coordinator and 2211 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,280 Speaker 1: give Lamar a free pass. 2212 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,519 Speaker 2: I'm like, fair is fair? That was a horrible decision by. 2213 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:36,880 Speaker 6: Why then, why can't we say he's a gun slinger? 2214 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 6: Brett Favre makes that throw? 2215 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,640 Speaker 4: We just go ah, man, you know there's Bret just 2216 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,280 Speaker 4: being a gun slinger, just being a gamer, and. 2217 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,360 Speaker 1: A lot of that is stupid too, right, So so 2218 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 1: more stupid doesn't make sense, you know what I'm saying. 2219 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 3: All Right, I give you. I give you that. 2220 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 4: You admitted it, so I'll give you that. 2221 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, feel free to check in if 2222 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 1: you want to. You can hit us up on x 2223 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 1: Slash Twitter if you want to do that, right. Vj's 2224 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 1: at Big Vanilla Funny. I'm at the no show. Any 2225 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,879 Speaker 1: of your feelings, any of your thoughts on the QBS. 2226 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,080 Speaker 1: Love to hear them all right right around the corner. 2227 01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 4: VJ. 2228 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 1: Both you and I we've got opinions, right. We don't 2229 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 1: sugarcoat stuff. We just throw it out there. People disagree, 2230 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:20,200 Speaker 1: they disagree. Here's one guy who completely changed his tune 2231 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 1: and I hate it. I have a feeling you might 2232 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 1: hate it as well. We'll dive into that. 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The way tire buying should be. 2254 01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 2: What a badass read you did? 2255 01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:24,639 Speaker 4: Dude? That was really good? 2256 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Mary, That's right. 2257 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:26,519 Speaker 11: I know. 2258 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,599 Speaker 6: Hey, No, I got a question for you on my quarterback. 2259 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,680 Speaker 6: Let's just both off both our quarterback. Well, if you 2260 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 6: want to jump in on this one, even Martin two man, 2261 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,639 Speaker 6: Pardy no party, No, Trevor Lawrence. 2262 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you guys have a problem. You guys didn't 2263 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,000 Speaker 4: balk at me at that, Justin Herbert at ten? You 2264 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 4: got no one balked at that? 2265 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 3: Am I am? I am? 2266 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:43,400 Speaker 1: I good? 2267 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:43,599 Speaker 8: There? 2268 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:44,240 Speaker 3: Am I cool? There? 2269 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 11: I would probably have party like at eleven or twelve, okay, 2270 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 11: but I'm not gonna put him over Justin Herbert I 2271 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 11: would also probably have justin Herbert higher. Myself really did. 2272 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,559 Speaker 2: Too, Herbert sixth. 2273 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Herbert is six Yeah, okay, Mark. 2274 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,880 Speaker 8: You see the reason nobody he balked at that is 2275 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,120 Speaker 8: because when you put Josh Allen at eight or nine, 2276 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,719 Speaker 8: everybody's already gobsmacked. 2277 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,760 Speaker 4: And like, what the hell is going on here? We 2278 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 4: didn't even think about you to talk. 2279 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 6: I don't think I didn't see your clip when the 2280 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,720 Speaker 6: eye couple with you and Chris and you said he 2281 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,479 Speaker 6: was Oh you didn't like where that list that. 2282 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 4: You and Chris talked about had him, Well, you didn't 2283 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,320 Speaker 4: have him with that high. 2284 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 8: If you're telling me that he's number two, then I 2285 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,479 Speaker 8: got an issue with it. But you're telling me that 2286 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,720 Speaker 8: there's there's not nine better quarterbacks than Josh. No, I 2287 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,560 Speaker 8: don't have nine better at him. He's that nice, and 2288 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:32,080 Speaker 8: that means there's only eight. Well, wow, welcome to Saturday night. 2289 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:34,720 Speaker 2: Life over here. 2290 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2291 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 11: The only issue I have within these lists is the 2292 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,679 Speaker 11: original ESPN one that had Burrow it too. I don't 2293 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,639 Speaker 11: I don't get that. I don't agree with that at all. 2294 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 2: It's just the health thing. 2295 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,439 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, yeah, he's never he's never healthy, and I 2296 01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,240 Speaker 11: just don't think he's better than I don't think he's 2297 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,679 Speaker 11: better than Josh Allen, and I don't think he's even healthy. Yeah, 2298 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 11: even when he's healthy. Yeah wow. 2299 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I had him at four. I thought I had 2300 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,599 Speaker 4: him fairly. He could have been four. 2301 01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,120 Speaker 11: He's in the top five, but I think it's friend. 2302 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,800 Speaker 6: Okay, But Trevor Lawrence, you guys are cool him being 2303 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,400 Speaker 6: out of the top ten, Okay, yeah right now, because 2304 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 6: Party's gotten all the love last and Party's no top ten, 2305 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,000 Speaker 6: right Okay, yeah, I think so. 2306 01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,920 Speaker 1: I think I flipped it around two VJ, where I 2307 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,639 Speaker 1: did the bottom ten quarterbacks. I think that's more challenging 2308 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,200 Speaker 1: than the top oh wow, because you start looking at 2309 01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 1: this and it's like, man, it's Trevor Lawrence in the 2310 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,840 Speaker 1: bottom ten, right, Like is he a bottom third quarterback? 2311 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:28,280 Speaker 3: Right now? 2312 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,639 Speaker 4: Don't tease me like this, Brian. 2313 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,960 Speaker 6: You know, I'll go home tonight and I'll start working 2314 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 6: on this, bro like, don't don't do this tomorrow. And 2315 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 6: Martin right now is like goodness gracious. So next Saturday morning, 2316 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get a text from VJ right before our 2317 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 6: show saying, hey, let's do bottom ten quarterbacks. 2318 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, no started it, so blame him. 2319 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,200 Speaker 11: That's probably harder than doing your top ten. Two. They're 2320 01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 11: gonna have teams that have two guys, right I would put. 2321 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,920 Speaker 11: I mean, I think Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell both 2322 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,559 Speaker 11: go on that bottom tenies. We don't really know who's 2323 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:55,720 Speaker 11: starting for the Raiders next year. 2324 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,519 Speaker 1: Yep, they're bottom ten. And that's where it gets tricky, 2325 01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 1: where I'm trying to figure out, say, like Minnesota Trevor 2326 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,200 Speaker 1: in the bottom ten. I didn't have them there, but 2327 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,800 Speaker 1: you have to think about that. When you start laying 2328 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 1: out the list, you're like, wow, man, there are ten 2329 01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks got to go in the bottom ten. And I 2330 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 1: don't like some of these decisions I'm having to make here. 2331 01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you have the two headed monster thing, 2332 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,760 Speaker 1: that's where it gets tricky. Where it's the Vikings right now, 2333 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 1: right with Donald and JJ McCarthy, right, it's the Raiders, 2334 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,960 Speaker 1: which Bo just said, and then it's also the Patriots 2335 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 1: with Brissett and Drake May. That's where it gets tricky 2336 01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:37,360 Speaker 1: where you're like, I might like Gardner Minshew over Jacoby Brissett, 2337 01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 1: but I like Drake May over Aidan O'Connell. 2338 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 2: So now it gets really weird. 2339 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,200 Speaker 4: Well, I love b Why to death be Why is 2340 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:45,519 Speaker 4: my guy? 2341 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,120 Speaker 6: But I will put b Why down there because he 2342 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,880 Speaker 6: had a bad you know, he had all this stuff 2343 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 6: in Carolina's is just. 2344 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:51,400 Speaker 4: Hey, I got to just keep it a buck. 2345 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 2: So I last he was dead last. 2346 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,080 Speaker 4: We put bee Why down there. I guess Gardner will 2347 01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 4: go down there. Where's Russell Wilson, You know he's I. 2348 01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,920 Speaker 2: Don't have him in the bottom ten, but he was. 2349 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 2: He was on the short list. 2350 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 1: He was came down to Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence and 2351 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:12,760 Speaker 1: Derreck Carr, and. 2352 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:13,840 Speaker 2: I didn't have any of them. 2353 01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 4: Oh you've already done this list. 2354 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've did my beat me to you, son of 2355 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:18,200 Speaker 2: a gun. 2356 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:19,880 Speaker 1: I had. 2357 01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,920 Speaker 2: Right now, I have bone Nicks as the worst starting. 2358 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,960 Speaker 1: Quarterback and a lot of its process of elimination, like 2359 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 1: he hasn't thrown a pass yet, But I got someone's 2360 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 1: got to be dead last. 2361 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:33,639 Speaker 2: I've got him as the worst start. 2362 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,679 Speaker 4: Oh god, that's hilarious, that's funny. He's got bone Niggs, 2363 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 4: poor boone catches straight. 2364 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:40,880 Speaker 3: He hasn't even done anything. 2365 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:41,200 Speaker 4: I know. 2366 01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 2: You know who else I don't love having in the 2367 01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,160 Speaker 2: bottom ten, but I have to have him there. 2368 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:46,960 Speaker 4: Gotta take a guess. 2369 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you have? 2370 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,400 Speaker 4: I got two guys? Okay, Baker or car It's not. 2371 01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,479 Speaker 2: Either of those. Wow, Okay, yeah, okay, you know who 2372 01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:55,800 Speaker 2: it is. 2373 01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,519 Speaker 1: It's Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson. Now here's the thing. A 2374 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,519 Speaker 1: rich has a lot of ability, but what he doesn't 2375 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,920 Speaker 1: have is a lot of experience. And look, this isn't 2376 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,679 Speaker 1: like from now until the end of time, this list 2377 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:15,599 Speaker 1: cannot change whatsoever. But as of right now, the dude 2378 01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 1: didn't even throw four hundred passes in college. He threw 2379 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 1: eighty four passes last season. I think that he's got 2380 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot of tools to work with and he could 2381 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 1: pull Vault out of the bottom ten. But right now, 2382 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,599 Speaker 1: I got to have him as a bottom ten quarterback 2383 01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:30,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 2384 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 4: And that's very interesting because there are people that are 2385 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,040 Speaker 4: really looking at the Colds saying, hey, this kid's. 2386 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,160 Speaker 6: Coming back from injury. They got a running game, they 2387 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,439 Speaker 6: got receivers, they got a good defense. Look they're stupid. 2388 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,360 Speaker 6: Play call away on fourth down at home, last game 2389 01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,280 Speaker 6: of the year, last last game of the NFL season, 2390 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 6: and the offensive coordinator, whoever's calling the plays, their decides 2391 01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,080 Speaker 6: to throw it to a fullback in a flat who 2392 01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,640 Speaker 6: only had like two targets all year long on the 2393 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 6: most important play of the year. 2394 01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 4: And that's how they end up losing that game. And 2395 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,439 Speaker 4: they don't get to you know, they lose the division 2396 01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,080 Speaker 4: in the Texans win a division. 2397 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 6: So I man, that's that's where and Uncle Fla goes 2398 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 6: there's the backup this year. So if Anthony rich goes down, 2399 01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,880 Speaker 6: that's that's interesting. Where do you have Kirk Cousins. 2400 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,439 Speaker 1: I'd have Kirk in the middle. He's definitely not a 2401 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,559 Speaker 1: bottom ten quarterback. He's closer to knocking on the door 2402 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 1: of the top ten than the bottom ten, for sure. 2403 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,719 Speaker 1: But I'd have him somewhere in that like thirteen fourteen 2404 01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 1: ish range, somewhere around there. Kyler Murray same thing. 2405 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,280 Speaker 2: Okay, closer to the top ten than the bottom ten. 2406 01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:39,000 Speaker 4: I believe. Okay, you know, just names just popping in 2407 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 4: my head. 2408 01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,680 Speaker 2: Just middle, middle of the road, right. 2409 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,280 Speaker 1: I think Kyler is like listen, Kirk, Kirk puts up 2410 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,840 Speaker 1: numbers man. But the problem with Kirk is I don't 2411 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: need him to be Lamar, but playing outside of structure 2412 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,200 Speaker 1: and just keeping a play alive with some athleticism. 2413 01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 2: He just doesn't have it. 2414 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,639 Speaker 4: Oh, last one, gotta go one last one. I'm sorry, Yeah, 2415 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson. 2416 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one man year three in Cleveland. He's 2417 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,679 Speaker 1: definitely not a top ten guy. 2418 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 4: Right, absolutely not. Yeah, he would be. 2419 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,080 Speaker 1: I would say, without doing the entire NFL, he would 2420 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 1: be somewhere right around sixteen ish. He could teeter between 2421 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,000 Speaker 1: top half or bottom half. Starting quarterback in the NFL. 2422 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have him in the bottom ten, but that 2423 01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,040 Speaker 1: would be the range I would have him in a 2424 01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,920 Speaker 1: right you would you have him around there? 2425 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:28,080 Speaker 4: Oh? 2426 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:28,360 Speaker 8: Man? 2427 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:28,800 Speaker 3: You know what. 2428 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,559 Speaker 4: I've always been a supporter of him. 2429 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 2: Man, but he's got the ability. But dude, the last 2430 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 2: two years, Man, it doesn't. 2431 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 4: It doesn't look good. It just doesn't. When you put 2432 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,040 Speaker 4: I'm a tape guy, Brian, you know I'm a tape guy. 2433 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,200 Speaker 4: Put the tip film don't lie. Yeah, it just doesn't. 2434 01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:45,400 Speaker 4: That's why they use it in court. It doesn't lie. 2435 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 2: But it looks so different the last two years. 2436 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,960 Speaker 1: Like the first year there was rust okay, fine, last 2437 01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,360 Speaker 1: year before the shoulder injury, it's like he's a fish 2438 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,000 Speaker 1: out of water with Stefan's key. 2439 01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,639 Speaker 2: It's like he look anything like himself. 2440 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,360 Speaker 4: When he was in Houston last year the shutdown with 2441 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:01,960 Speaker 4: the injury. 2442 01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,759 Speaker 6: I questioned that, man, and I don't like U guts, 2443 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 6: but it just almost felt like, look, man, let's get you, 2444 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,639 Speaker 6: let's let's take a seat, let's reset this thing, because 2445 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 6: your contract's fully guaranteed, you're not going anywhere, and let's aim. 2446 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 6: Let's let's just aim for next year. Let's get you 2447 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,040 Speaker 6: fully healthy, and let's aim for twenty four. That's what 2448 01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:21,840 Speaker 6: it really felt like. 2449 01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,760 Speaker 1: Man, I felt like that two years ago with your 2450 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,840 Speaker 1: guy Lamar. I hate to throw it out there, but 2451 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 1: he was on the cusp of getting his deal. There's 2452 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,679 Speaker 1: no way I will ever believe he couldn't have gotten 2453 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,720 Speaker 1: back out on the field. I'm with you, but I 2454 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 1: know it wouldn't have been one hundred percent. It would 2455 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 1: have been better than their backup at whatever percentage. 2456 01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 3: He was at. 2457 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 10: No. 2458 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:50,080 Speaker 6: I totally one agree if Lamar Lamar sat the rest 2459 01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 6: of that year because he didn't have that guarantee mine 2460 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 6: And that's why NFL players need guaranteed money so you 2461 01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,439 Speaker 6: avoid those things. And remember, going into the middle of November, 2462 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,280 Speaker 6: they were the number one seed in the AFC. 2463 01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, hey, he got hurt and went down. 2464 01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:05,960 Speaker 2: You know who's got guaranteed money. 2465 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I know who got guaranteed money. 2466 01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:09,960 Speaker 2: Our guy, Martin Weiss, has guarantee. 2467 01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,439 Speaker 4: You just tried to run up on me in a hallway. 2468 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:12,800 Speaker 4: Y'all should have seen him tried to run. 2469 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,840 Speaker 6: You can't try to like run like we had a 2470 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,680 Speaker 6: little Oklahoma drill just now in the hallway when I'm 2471 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:18,719 Speaker 6: trying to go to the bathroom. 2472 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,600 Speaker 2: Was it because of your your josh Allen ninth P. 2473 01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 4: Know, Martin, I we got a we got a real 2474 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,120 Speaker 4: healthy competition kind of love hate thing. 2475 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:27,360 Speaker 3: Man. 2476 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 4: I think that's why our show works. He tried to 2477 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:35,559 Speaker 4: tackle me as I exited the bathroom. Tarrytate offensive office. 2478 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 2: Barry Sanders him that happen. 2479 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:38,559 Speaker 3: Of course. 2480 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,320 Speaker 4: I was like, that was like the mad at door. 2481 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,200 Speaker 4: He was ran right through it. He ran right through it. 2482 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,400 Speaker 8: Kyle Larson one of the NASCAR Cup Series in Indianapolis 2483 01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,280 Speaker 8: Motor Speedway, Tyler Reddick and Ryan Blaney second and third. 2484 01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,960 Speaker 8: Christopher Bell Bubba Wallace round out the top five. Sanders 2485 01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,200 Speaker 8: Flay shot six under in the final round of the 2486 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,920 Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty second Open Championships. He ends nine 2487 01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 8: under par for the tournament, winning his second major of 2488 01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:05,000 Speaker 8: his career Justin Rose Billy Horschel. They were both seven 2489 01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,120 Speaker 8: under part that's good for second overall. 2490 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:09,120 Speaker 4: Packer Pro Bowl No. 2491 01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,559 Speaker 8: Cycle Kenny clarks on Day three year sixty four million 2492 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,439 Speaker 8: dollar extension. Today Major League Baseball, the Giants beat the 2493 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,320 Speaker 8: Rockies three to two. Jaye Solier with the longest home 2494 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,720 Speaker 8: run of the twenty twenty four season, four hundred and 2495 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,599 Speaker 8: seventy eight feet. Brewers over the Twins seven, eight to seven. 2496 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:26,920 Speaker 8: Nationals top the Reds five to two. That's a three 2497 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,960 Speaker 8: game sweep. Over the weekend, Phillies had one of the 2498 01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,280 Speaker 8: best records in the National League thirty sixty three and 2499 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,680 Speaker 8: thirty six. They shout out the Pirates six to zero. 2500 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,920 Speaker 8: Cardinals beat the Braves six to two. Royals Seth Lugo 2501 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,479 Speaker 8: pitched his first career complete game, just three hits in 2502 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,479 Speaker 8: one run while striking out six as they beat the 2503 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 8: White Sox four to one. Aaron Judge had his thirty 2504 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:48,360 Speaker 8: fifth home run of the year, three run bomb in 2505 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,360 Speaker 8: the seventh inning, but still Ray's outscored the Yankees six 2506 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 8: to four. Blue Jays beat the Tigers five to four. 2507 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 8: Padres edge of the Guardians two to one, Cubs over 2508 01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:00,120 Speaker 8: the Diamondbacks two to one, and ten innings Rangers the 2509 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,400 Speaker 8: Orioles three to two. Jonah Heim with a fourth inning 2510 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,000 Speaker 8: three run home run. Brian and VJ. 2511 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:06,880 Speaker 4: Back to you guys. 2512 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:08,840 Speaker 1: By the way, Martin, I got a question for you. 2513 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,719 Speaker 1: Mary Mack has a question for us. I'm just thinking, 2514 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,160 Speaker 1: because you do the Saturday show with V Jay, I 2515 01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,960 Speaker 1: do I've got all these opinions. How hard is it 2516 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,120 Speaker 1: to be doing updates and listening to whoever's hosting the 2517 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,520 Speaker 1: show and they're throwing out opinions you could not disagree 2518 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,080 Speaker 1: with more and you just pop on all right, the 2519 01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,040 Speaker 1: Royals one three to one, You know what I mean. 2520 01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: I'd be sitting there like, oh my gosh, just throw 2521 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,040 Speaker 1: it to me one time so I could throw some 2522 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,320 Speaker 1: haymakers over here. 2523 01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:37,280 Speaker 4: You know, I say. 2524 01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:40,439 Speaker 8: I'm actually quite used to it by this point because 2525 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,160 Speaker 8: my other job producing Undisputed, I found a lot of 2526 01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:45,640 Speaker 8: opinions that I disagree with. 2527 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just keep on trucking. I learned to judge 2528 01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:50,879 Speaker 4: the person, not the opinion. 2529 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:51,479 Speaker 1: There you go. 2530 01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:52,040 Speaker 3: I love that. 2531 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,240 Speaker 12: Now, Mary Mack with us here, technical producer, extraordinary. Yeah, 2532 01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,439 Speaker 12: question for us Mary Well. I was because I was, 2533 01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,880 Speaker 12: you know, listen to your guys, it's like listen stuff. 2534 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 12: I was like asking, but I was like, I wonder 2535 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,080 Speaker 12: where they got Caleb Williams that. 2536 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,000 Speaker 2: I have him in the bottom ten right now. 2537 01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,880 Speaker 8: He's in your bottom tower in the Pandora's box here. 2538 01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 8: It's kind of cheating to have rookie quarterbacks when. 2539 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,439 Speaker 1: Though, yeah, no, well, I think he's going to be 2540 01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:25,559 Speaker 1: a good NFL player. I just think a rookie it's 2541 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,400 Speaker 1: just so hard to hit the ground running as a 2542 01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:28,880 Speaker 1: rookie in the NFL. 2543 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:30,920 Speaker 2: So that I think he's gonna work out. I think 2544 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:31,800 Speaker 2: he's gonna be really good. 2545 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,920 Speaker 3: But I mean c J. 2546 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,600 Speaker 2: Stroud and Justin Herbert, those are the exceptions. 2547 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,320 Speaker 1: A lot of guys like John Elway stunk as a rookie, 2548 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning through more interceptions than touchdowns. 2549 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,760 Speaker 2: These are all time greats, you know. 2550 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:49,080 Speaker 1: And even in today's NFL, he's gonna be scrutinized like crazy. 2551 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,280 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be easy for social media. 2552 01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 8: He's a quirky I'm just criticizing quarterbacks in the bottom ten. 2553 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,040 Speaker 8: But you got Daniel Jones exists, Brian. 2554 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 2: He's in the bottom ten, he's higher up on the list. 2555 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,880 Speaker 11: Would you take war Levis over Caleb Williams right now? 2556 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,080 Speaker 2: No, because he didn't play it fully. 2557 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 4: No. 2558 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he played a little bit more, maybe I 2559 01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,599 Speaker 1: might be tempted. But Caleb's got more ability. 2560 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 6: Will doesn't have it. Well, it's gonna show will he 2561 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,400 Speaker 6: what doesn't have it? They're he's they're playing. Listen, look 2562 01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,920 Speaker 6: what they have there. Someone's got to take the snaps, right. 2563 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:28,400 Speaker 6: Tannehill was always tanne Hill was always for Gate and 2564 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,240 Speaker 6: I listened, I was pulling from elite to free. He's 2565 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,760 Speaker 6: not the guy either. He don't got it. No, neither 2566 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:36,880 Speaker 6: does Will that. They they're gonna have the number one pick. 2567 01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:37,000 Speaker 5: In the. 2568 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 11: Ye. 2569 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,200 Speaker 4: Really, absolutely, the Titans are going to be terrible. 2570 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 2: I got to look at their season win total. 2571 01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:45,880 Speaker 5: They don't have a. 2572 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,599 Speaker 4: Quarter at six and a half, I got a four yard. 2573 01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 4: I think it's like five or six and a half. 2574 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 3: You got Yeah. 2575 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,720 Speaker 11: I actually I agree with j there. I think they're 2576 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,320 Speaker 11: a sneaky, sneaky pick for worse year. 2577 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:55,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're Patriots. 2578 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,880 Speaker 11: They're kind of a retirement home for players. 2579 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they come on a new coach, no quarterback, you're 2580 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,599 Speaker 4: a franchise player franchise player walked out the door. 2581 01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:08,280 Speaker 1: Here's my minor pushback on Will Levis, Will the thrill 2582 01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,639 Speaker 1: Levis as I call him. Here, I have more tongue 2583 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:11,479 Speaker 1: in cheek than anything. 2584 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,160 Speaker 2: How are you convinced he's not the guy? 2585 01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,120 Speaker 3: What have you seen? 2586 01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 2587 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,439 Speaker 1: Like he threw four touchdown passes in his first game 2588 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:19,360 Speaker 1: against the foul Cans. 2589 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:20,080 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 2590 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:22,080 Speaker 1: And he didn't get a whole lot of playing time. 2591 01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,880 Speaker 1: He beat our Dolphins unfortunately, right vej, I go. 2592 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,120 Speaker 6: Back and I look at number one to college tape, okay, 2593 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,960 Speaker 6: and I watched fundamentals. So I watched quarterbacks feet placement, 2594 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,720 Speaker 6: and I watched their release angles, and I watch their eyes. 2595 01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 6: His eyes are jittery, they're all over the place. That 2596 01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:40,120 Speaker 6: can be helped, and so can his feet. But if 2597 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,000 Speaker 6: a quarterback, the average quarterback that doesn't fix his feet 2598 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,680 Speaker 6: within the first year and a half to two years 2599 01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,520 Speaker 6: of the NFL, he never. Cam Newton never fixed his feet. 2600 01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,760 Speaker 6: That's what kept Cam Newton from being Remember he hit 2601 01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 6: the league four hundred yards first game, four hundred yards 2602 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:58,960 Speaker 6: second remember, right, But then sooner or later, teams get 2603 01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,760 Speaker 6: tape on you, and teams can now watch. 2604 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:05,360 Speaker 4: You over and over, and that's their job. These coordinators, 2605 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,680 Speaker 4: these defensive cord that's what they do. They don't go 2606 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 4: to recitals. They miss all. The kid admits their wives 2607 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,920 Speaker 4: can't stand them, their football coaches. 2608 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:14,360 Speaker 2: It's her birthday. 2609 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they's been there. They's been their own birthday 2610 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 4: at the facility. 2611 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,640 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, real fast. On the Titans. 2612 01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,320 Speaker 1: Sure, I'm not gonna say they're gonna be a double 2613 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,240 Speaker 1: digit win team or anything, but you could do worse 2614 01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 1: than this supporting cast. You may you overpay Calvin Ridley, 2615 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 1: but he's a good receiver and you got him with 2616 01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,520 Speaker 1: old man DeAndre Hopkins, who's still productive. You picked up 2617 01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd from the Bengals. That's not a bad one 2618 01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,520 Speaker 1: two three right there. And all you got chick At 2619 01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,440 Speaker 1: konk Wu, who's an underrated tight end. You picked up 2620 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. Like I'll say this, there's enough around Will 2621 01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,680 Speaker 1: Levis where if he stinks, it's not the supporting cast's fault, 2622 01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. This isn't Sam Darnold with 2623 01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 1: the Jets or something crazy like that. He's got enough 2624 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,760 Speaker 1: around him where if he's anything, he should be productive. 2625 01:55:58,880 --> 01:55:59,800 Speaker 4: And I don't mind those guys. 2626 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,480 Speaker 6: You but Tony Pollard, Okay, yep, you're a backup, your 2627 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 6: career backup, and you couldn't even take the job from 2628 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,880 Speaker 6: Zeke and Dallas Calvin Ridley. He's not the same player 2629 01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,000 Speaker 6: anymore ever since he you know, missed his one year 2630 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:11,040 Speaker 6: for the game for the stuff. 2631 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,840 Speaker 2: He's pretty good. 2632 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:12,840 Speaker 4: I like him, you know. 2633 01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,120 Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins, like you said, he's just kind of another 2634 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:16,040 Speaker 6: old guy out there. 2635 01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,240 Speaker 2: It's a good enough supporting cast. Or if will is good, 2636 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 2: it should show right. You know, he's got he's gotta 2637 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's star studded, but. 2638 01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 4: So they'll lose a lot of twenty one to sixteen 2639 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,320 Speaker 4: games and they'll still end up with two. 2640 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:28,840 Speaker 3: Or three one. I don't know what. 2641 01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 1: I have more questions about him staying healthy than I 2642 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 1: do about production. We'll see, we'll see, all right, coming up. 2643 01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: Would the criticism be lighter if the popularity was more so? Uh, 2644 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,600 Speaker 1: we'll dive into that. Right around the corner. 2645 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:47,520 Speaker 2: He's VJ. Husky. 2646 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm Brian No hang with us right here live from 2647 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,120 Speaker 1: the Tyreck dot Com studios on Fox Sports Radio. 2648 01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. 2649 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:55,160 Speaker 3: He's VJ. 2650 01:56:55,320 --> 01:57:00,320 Speaker 1: Husky, I'm Brian know so uh two things to throw 2651 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,440 Speaker 1: at your rapid fire style here, VJ. Good hanging with 2652 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,120 Speaker 1: you as well. 2653 01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,960 Speaker 4: Man always just real fast, Mary, What in the hell 2654 01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:07,280 Speaker 4: is that? 2655 01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:09,800 Speaker 2: This is our walk offsad? 2656 01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:10,120 Speaker 4: Okay? 2657 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:10,400 Speaker 3: All right? 2658 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:10,720 Speaker 8: Bad. 2659 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,840 Speaker 2: You should have seen the look he gave me. Oh 2660 01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:17,520 Speaker 2: so bad. This is tradition here, Okay, how is it? 2661 01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,440 Speaker 1: This is like the modern age? Remember closing time? Remember 2662 01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 1: that song closing This is our version of that. 2663 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,840 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, doesn't it. 2664 01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,800 Speaker 2: Sound like, hey man, last call the light? 2665 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2666 01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 4: You get to see what she really looks like. 2667 01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 2668 01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 2: Whoa gosh, I didn't know she was a lagoon preacher. 2669 01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 2: Man throw the lights back off? 2670 01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2671 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:43,360 Speaker 4: Oh god. 2672 01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:44,760 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the first question. 2673 01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:48,200 Speaker 1: Sir, yes, sir, so Brownie James right, he's got a 2674 01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:54,080 Speaker 1: lot of criticism, a lot because lebron is Listen, you 2675 01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 1: love them, you dislike him, We know how it goes. 2676 01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:56,720 Speaker 3: Right. 2677 01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:57,680 Speaker 2: Here's my question. 2678 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:04,640 Speaker 1: If in the NBA that is more popular, or at 2679 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:07,800 Speaker 1: least doesn't have as many like detractors, it doesn't have 2680 01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 1: as many haters, do you think their son would be 2681 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,560 Speaker 1: as criticized as Bronni like keep the scenario, the same 2682 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:20,120 Speaker 1: exact No right, Steph Curry's son has picked fifty fifth overall? 2683 01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 1: Is everybody is loud with oh gosh, nepotism? If Yo 2684 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,400 Speaker 1: Kisch same scenario, do you think it would change at all? 2685 01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,760 Speaker 1: Is this mostly fueled by Lebron and it would be 2686 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,240 Speaker 1: a lot different if it's staph or Yokich or someone 2687 01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:33,520 Speaker 1: like that. 2688 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 6: It's one hundred percent fuel by people's this thing for Lebron. 2689 01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:40,880 Speaker 6: I haven't criticized Bronnie. I just simply said he's not 2690 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,480 Speaker 6: an NBA player. I've also been on record of saying 2691 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,640 Speaker 6: I like the kid. I really do, but it doesn't 2692 01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,040 Speaker 6: feel like I've been around sports so much in my life. 2693 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 6: It feels like Bronnie it was the son that I 2694 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:53,400 Speaker 6: want to play, you know. 2695 01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 4: To please dad. Bryce seems like he's the baller like 2696 01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:58,480 Speaker 4: Bryce is in this. 2697 01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,640 Speaker 6: Bronnie feels like he wants to be like an influencer 2698 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 6: or like a TikTok guy. He just won a Call 2699 01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:07,640 Speaker 6: of Duty tournament, so right, So what summer league guy 2700 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,840 Speaker 6: is putting that type of focus into video games that 2701 01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,560 Speaker 6: really wants to play ball. It just it feels like, 2702 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:17,680 Speaker 6: and I've seen it covering AAU basketball my brother and 2703 01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:19,760 Speaker 6: his son that made it to Carolina and went to 2704 01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 6: the NBA, my nephew Kendall Marshall. 2705 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:22,720 Speaker 4: I've seen it up close and. 2706 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:27,240 Speaker 6: Personal with kids that do things in athletics and extracurriculars 2707 01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:31,160 Speaker 6: to please daddy or mommy, and it feels that way 2708 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:32,480 Speaker 6: with Bronnie. 2709 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll say this real fast, is that sometimes a comment 2710 01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,320 Speaker 1: is looked at as a man you're just absolutely hating 2711 01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:45,360 Speaker 1: where it's personal and it's like, like you just said 2712 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a pro. Right now, That doesn't 2713 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:51,720 Speaker 1: mean you're just personally hating on the guy. Jalen Brown 2714 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,120 Speaker 1: at the Celtics. He was sitting courtside. Yeah, I'm sure 2715 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 1: he saw the video. I don't think Bronni is a 2716 01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:01,400 Speaker 1: pro and he backtracked massively off of that, put a 2717 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 1: follow up tweet, Bronni has all the tools around him 2718 02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:05,160 Speaker 1: to be successful. 2719 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:06,760 Speaker 4: He got trashed. 2720 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,960 Speaker 2: But it's like, stand by your opinions. That's what you think. 2721 02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Just saying you to death, you know what I mean? 2722 02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 6: Like, he didn't say anything that wasn't true, Brian, that 2723 02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,040 Speaker 6: was that was the main thing. I just didn't like 2724 02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:20,800 Speaker 6: the fact he was sitting there with my blue angel 2725 02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:22,000 Speaker 6: reaes I didn't appreciate that. 2726 02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh you didn't like that. No, she's two timing you. 2727 02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:26,120 Speaker 4: She owes me an explanation. 2728 02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Good hanging with you man, Everybody enjoying your evening. We'll 2729 02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:31,000 Speaker 2: catch you soon.