1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: It's a genocide that's taken place that you people don't 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: want to write about, but it's a terrible thing that's 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: taken place. And farmers are being killed. They happen to 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: be white. But whether they're white or black makes no 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: difference to me. But white farmers are being brutally killed 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: and the land is being confiscated in South Africa. 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: For the dramatic scene in the Oval Office today, the 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: tense confrontation President Trump ambushing the President of South Africa. 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: Next another Oval office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the President 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: of South Africa. 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 5: President Trump is being accused of conducting something of a 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: diplomatic ambush a South Africa's president in the Oval Office. 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 6: To be with you, I'm katie, sir, President Trump orchestrated 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 6: another Oval office ambush. 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Today is today Donald Trump meeting with the President of 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: South Africa and attempting to ambush and humiliate that leader. 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 7: Zelenski Territory where essentially he. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: Was got his one big beautiful bill that he wanted 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: two fifteen to to fourteen was the vote. This is 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: a big political win for Donald Trump and for Speaker 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Mike Johnson. May I say as well, only two Republicans 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: voting against it, every Democrat voting against it, and House 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: Freedom Caucus Chair Andy Harris abstaining or I think he 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: voted not President or President. I guess by him not 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: voting two fifteen to to fourteen was enough of a 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: majority to get it over the finish line. This is 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: a big domestic policy accomplishment win for Trump. 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: It's not a perfect bill. 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: I've got lots of complaints, but if I'm a seing, 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: did he need this done? 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Does this matter? Yes? 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: This is a big win for him, and he's had 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: a string of them. Wow, I didn't see this one coming. 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper and his co author Alex Thompson of Axios 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: have been everywhere hawking their new book, Original Sin, but CNN, 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: which has been promoting it at every turn, they're getting 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: some blowback from their own side. I mean even John 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: John Tapper, John Stewart, John Stewart laying the hammer on 41 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: him back. 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 8: With breaking news in our Politics Lead and a brand 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 8: new excerpt from my upcoming book with Axios is Alex Thompson. 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 8: It's called Original Sin. I'm not sure if you've heard 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 8: of it. It's on Biden's decline. It's called Original Sin. 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 8: I'm sure you've heard. On May twentyth, that's Tuesday, Original Sin. 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 8: That's coming out in three weeks. On May twentieth, that's 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 8: just nineteen days away from one week and one day 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 8: coming out. 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 7: In just a few days, comes out Tuesday. 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 8: You will not believe what we found out. 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 9: Don't newspeople have to tell you what they know when 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 9: they find it out. Isn't that the difference between news 54 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 9: and the secret. You won't believe what we found out. 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I know That's why I'm watching it. 56 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 10: Breaking news in a week now. 57 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 9: I don't know how the rest of the country is 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 9: feeling about this book coming out, but I know New 59 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 9: York is hyped. How do you pivot from excitedly promoting 60 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 9: your anchor's book to somberly and respectfully promote your anchor's book. 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 6: Adam's health was very much in the news even before 62 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 6: the cancer diagnosis was announced on Sunday. 63 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: That's because of a new book. By seeing in Jake Tapper. 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 11: This was already going to be a tough week, and 65 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 11: this makes it much harder. And that is a reference 66 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 11: to the fact that our colleague Jake Tapper and Alex 67 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 11: Thompson have a book that's set to publish on Tuesday. 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 12: This very tough news, this very challenging news, and at 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 12: the same time, the backdrop of our colleague Jake Tapper's 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 12: book with Alex Thompson coming out this week. 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 7: It's so hard, it's such a. 72 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 9: Difficult time, so unfathomable in terms of the pain this 73 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 9: family must be feeling. 74 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 7: And yet if you act now. 75 00:04:49,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 9: And you use the code backslash tap that book, you will. Obviously, 76 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 9: this twyf of is not a who actually framed this 77 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 9: difficult news as perhaps. 78 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 10: Even more of a reason to buy this book. 79 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 13: The timing, no, Former President Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis is 80 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 13: certainly dramatic, coming on the eve of a blockbuster new 81 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 13: book about his health and his time in the White House. 82 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Go on. 83 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 13: I'm sure some observers will say that the reporting in 84 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 13: the book is even more important now. 85 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 9: Yet nobody's saying that. No observers will say it's more 86 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 9: important now. Some observers might think, did these CNN people 87 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 9: work on commission? Like why are they hawking this and things? 88 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 9: Is this a girl Scout cookie? Situation. Who lover sells 89 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 9: the most tap of books gets a shwin. 90 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: We all remember MSNBC's Joe Scarborough making this absurd assertion 91 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden was the best Joe Biden, best version 92 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: of Joe Biden ever. 93 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 14: I've said it for years now. 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: He's coagent, but I undersold him when. 95 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: I said he was cogent. She's far beyond cogent. 96 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 14: In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been 97 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 14: intellectually analytically, because he's been around for fifty years. 98 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if people know this 99 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: or not. 100 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 5: Biden used to be a hothead sometimes that irishman would 101 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 5: get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes you would say 102 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 5: things he didn't want to say. This is and I 103 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: don't really you know what, I don't really start your 104 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 5: tape right now because I'm about to tell you the 105 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 5: truth and f you if you can't handle the truth. 106 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 5: This version of Biden intellectually analytically. 107 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 14: Is the best Biden ever, not a closed second. And 108 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 14: I've known him for years. The Presentskys have known him 109 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 14: for fifty years. If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't 110 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 14: say it. 111 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Well. 112 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper was promoting his book on MSNBC's Morning Joe 113 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: when he did a solid for old Joe Scarborough. 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 8: In your specific case, Joe, our reporting indicates that Joe Biden, 115 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 8: who as you know, is a frequent viewer of the show, 116 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 8: saw when David Ignatius wrote that column and I think 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 8: August twenty twenty three, saying that Joe Biden should not 118 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 8: run for reelection because of what he had been hearing, 119 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 8: and he came on this show and you guys had 120 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 8: a robust conversation about this. You largely agreed that you'd 121 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 8: been hearing things about this, but that there was really 122 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 8: no alternative that Kamala Harris was not up to the job. 123 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 8: That's what Democrats were telling you. Behind the scenes. Joe 124 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 8: Biden saw that. Joe Biden said to staffers that he 125 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 8: wanted to convince you that you were wrong, and he focused. 126 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 7: On you like you were Auency, like. 127 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 8: You were farmers in Iowa, like you were the Kawanis 128 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 8: Club in New Hampshire, and he made sure that you thought. 129 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 7: He made sure that you thought differently. I think he 130 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 7: did this with a couple people. I think he did 131 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 7: it with me. Chum. He might have done it with 132 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 7: evan Osnos. 133 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 8: He knew that there were people that had to be 134 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 8: convinced that he was fine, and he tried to prove that. 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 7: Listened to the Michael Barry Show podcast, and you'll be 136 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 7: the smartest guy in the room. Share with your friends 137 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 7: and you'll be the most popular too. 138 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 15: I wonder, what is your message to Hespala and it's 139 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 15: backer Iran. 140 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 7: Don't, don't, don't. 141 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 15: Don't you don't come across the border, don't escalate this war, don't, don't. 142 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 16: Don't, don't, don't, don't. 143 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 17: Well be happy, don't be happy, don't be happy. 144 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 16: Don't let me down, don't tread me, don't let me down. 145 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Don't. At the risk of repeating myself because I've said it. 146 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: Several times, I read Jake Tapper's book, so you wouldn't 147 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: have to. We could ignore the book, and my friend 148 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: Buck Sexton has said, ignore the book, don't buy it. Okay, 149 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: we can ignore the book, but there are things in 150 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: there and people's names and what they did that we 151 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: have accused them of, and no one has confessed to it, 152 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: and a lot of people moderates, a lot of naive 153 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: neighbors don't know that it's true. The book does lay 154 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: out certain things as a confessional that were not documented before. 155 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: And part of the. 156 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 3: Fact is Jake Tapper has access to Democrats in a 157 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: way that there hasn't been a conservative who could get 158 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: them to say those sorts of things. What's the reasoning 159 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: behind Democrats telling Jake Tapper these things? Because they want 160 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: to improve the Democrat Party, because they feel left out, 161 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: because they feel stilted or just are jilted that they 162 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: weren't chosen to run for office, or they weren't chosen 163 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: for a cabinet to say, I don't care forget the 164 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: messenger for a second. There are some interesting things that 165 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: are revealed in the book, but first understandably, we've got 166 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: to get our pound of flesh. Jake Tapper has to grovel. 167 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: He's got to, and several people have made him grovel. 168 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: I think so far. Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly does the 169 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: best job. You know, he'd done NPR, Katie Couric and 170 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. But he went on Megan 171 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: Kelly and she pulled no punches, and to his credit, 172 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: he took the blows. He groveled the way he needed to, 173 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: and that is an important ritual that was carried out 174 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: and here it. 175 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: Is leading up to the debate, which you anchored that 176 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 6: June twenty seventh debate twenty twenty four. There was a 177 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 6: ton of news leading into that debate in that month, 178 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 6: and we look back at your coverage and found that 179 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 6: you ignored it. Not only did you ignore the Jackie 180 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: wi Lurski moment when you had him thirteen days later, 181 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 6: but you ignored the freeze up that he had at 182 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: the juneteenth celebration. You ignored what happened at the G 183 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 6: seven when he wandered off and Georgia Maloney, Prime Minister 184 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 6: of Italy had to go find him. You ignored the 185 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 6: freeze up at the George Clooney LA fundraiser. 186 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: You didn't cover it. 187 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 7: You only covered it after the. 188 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: Debate, after George Clooney wrote his op ed, Jake, nobody 189 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: made you do that. There was your network at every 190 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: turn was telling us those were quote cheap fakes, and 191 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: you were not combating that narrative. CNN was actively misleading 192 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: us on what our very eyes were showing us the truth. 193 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: That's the record. I will. 194 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 7: Acknowledge that after I was named. 195 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 8: Moderator cooderator of the debate, I tried to make sure 196 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 8: that my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and 197 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 8: about Biden, because I just wanted to get to the 198 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 8: debate and the Biden people and the Trump people. I'm 199 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 8: kind of frankly surprised that either one of them agreed 200 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 8: to have me as a moderator, because both sides disliked 201 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 8: me so much. But yeah, I remember that moment, and 202 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 8: I remember that moment, the glitch at the immigration event 203 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 8: and not getting much attention outside of conservative media at all. 204 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 8: And Alex and I are here to say that conservative 205 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 8: media was right, and conservative media was correct, and that 206 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 8: there should be a lot of soul searching, not just 207 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 8: among me, but among the legacy media to begin with us, 208 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 8: all of us for how this was covered or not 209 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:16,239 Speaker 8: covered sufficiently. So I mean, I'm not here to defend 210 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 8: coverage that I've already acknowledged. 211 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 7: I wish I could do differently. 212 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper told Megan Kelly that Biden's staffers lied because 213 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: of the existential threat that was Trump, and I will 214 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: tell you that reading this thing pretty carefully, the story 215 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: that Tapper and Alex Thompson tell is that the fear 216 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: of Trump is so bad that it makes them crazy, 217 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: and that's what you're supposed to believe. But let me 218 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: remind you. The fear of Romney was that the fear 219 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: of Bush was that bad. The fear of Reagan, Dole, Bush, Nixon. 220 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: They were this crazy over Nixon too. It's not that 221 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: Trump is somehow this awful monster. It is not just 222 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: a fear of Trump. It is the desperate desire for power. 223 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: They have to have power, and without it they have 224 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: no lifeblood. If they can lie about the mental and 225 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: physical condition of the President of the United States, then 226 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: you better believe they will lie about the reason that 227 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: they did it. They blame Trump because in their bubble, 228 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: they think it makes them look noble. They're fighting Hitler, 229 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: because once you convince yourself he's Hitler. This is how 230 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: studies on uh on dictators who get their people to 231 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: commit crimes. What happened in Liberia, what's happened in Somalia, 232 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: what happened in under Paul pot and Cambodia. 233 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Is when you can convince. 234 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: Your people that the other people are the devil, you 235 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: can get them. 236 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: To do unspeakable things. 237 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: You're going to hear Jake Tapper Gravel in just a moment, 238 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: and it's good. 239 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: American is a nation that can be defined in a 240 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: single word. I got him, not only authentic Frontier Gibbery expressed. 241 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Their courage scene of the Data Michael Berry Show. 242 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: As promised, when Jake Tapper had to grovel at least 243 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: of the interviews I've seen the worst with Megan Kelly 244 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: and we were talking about these Democrats, and I think 245 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper sides with them on this is. The reason 246 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: they lied was because Trump is so awful and he's 247 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: a dictator and he's hitler and everybody's going to die. 248 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: And I think Jake Tapper believes that as well. And 249 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: one of the threads that comes through this book is 250 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: that the goal was to beat Trump. We have to 251 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: beat Trump, and that these people did what they did 252 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: to beat Trump, and because they did what they did, 253 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: it cost them the election. So the anger is not 254 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: at them for lying, deceiving or destroying the democratic process 255 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: and handpicking Kamala, putting a guy in his president and 256 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: keeping him there who is brain dead. The answer is 257 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: not for these people, you know what we did was wrong. 258 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: The answer is the strategy was wrong, and that cost 259 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: us the election. And now all hell has broken loose 260 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: because Trump is president again, and we're mad that Trump 261 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: is president, and so we blame you for doing what 262 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: you did because the public didn't respond well to what 263 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: you did. So, in other words, it's not that you 264 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: did something immoral. It's not that you did something un American, unethical. 265 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: It's that you did something and got caught and it 266 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: was obvious, and now Trump is president. So it's not 267 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: that they're mad or indignant over the behaviors because they're wrong. 268 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: It's they're mad because the behaviors led to Trump winning. 269 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: It's an important thing to understand. Anyway, Here is here 270 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: is Jake Tapper being made to go Megan Kelly. 271 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 8: One of the things that emerged was that there were 272 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 8: two bidens. One was the fine Biden, serviceable, adequate, and 273 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 8: the other one was a non functioning Biden. 274 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 7: And that's the one we saw the night of. 275 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 8: The debate, and that's the one we saw some clips 276 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 8: up here and there that you just showed. And that 277 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 8: non functioning Biden the one that lost his train of 278 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 8: thought in a significant way, not in the way just 279 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 8: that every human loses their train of thought, but in 280 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 8: a way that shows that he's having trouble articulating his 281 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 8: very views, and the one who forgot the name of 282 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 8: close aids, who was not able to come up with 283 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 8: George Clooney's name, didn't seem to recognize him. All that 284 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 8: sort of thing that non functioning Biden was, according to 285 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 8: our reporting, showed up as far back as twenty fifteen 286 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 8: after the death of Bow, where one top aid said 287 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 8: that that tragedy, the loss of bo was like watching 288 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 8: somebody pour water on sand. That was the effect on 289 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 8: his psyche. And there were other moments in twenty seventeen, 290 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 8: twenty eighteen. You hear some her report one of the 291 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 8: reasons he came to that conclusion was because of the 292 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 8: recordings they heard of Joe Biden in twenty seventeen talking 293 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 8: to his ghostwriter, in which he was similarly inclined. Obviously, 294 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 8: in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, there were other moments like that. 295 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 8: Most of his campaign staff and others would say that 296 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 8: he's you know, look, he's seventy eight, he's seventy nine. 297 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 8: He has senior moments, but he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. 298 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 7: Well, he wasn't. 299 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 8: Fine, And throughout his presidency that non functioning Biden would 300 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 8: show up more and more and more, and he was 301 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 8: worse and worse and worse, really. 302 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 7: Deteriorating tremendously. 303 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 8: The next time there was a really horrible family incident, 304 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 8: which was when Hunter Biden's plea deal fell apart in 305 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 8: the summer of twenty twenty three, and then obviously in 306 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 8: June he was convicted. The thought the fear of losing 307 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 8: his son, not to jail, but maybe to another, to 308 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 8: a relapse, to an overdose, to a suicide, who knows, 309 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 8: was a very real fear, and the threat of losing 310 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 8: a third child really just diminished tim tremendously, according to 311 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 8: top aides. So all of which is to say that 312 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 8: this was a deterioration, This was a progression. And look, 313 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 8: knowing what I know now, obviously I feel tremendous humility 314 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 8: about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed, for example, etc. 315 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 8: She saw something, she saw something that I did not 316 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 8: see at the time, one hundred percent, and I own that. 317 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: So Jake Tapper's catching hell for pushing back against evidence 318 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: of Biden's decline from the right. He told NPR that 319 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: he wishes he had been more aggressive in his cover. 320 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: See He's rewriting. He's making his excuses, and as he develops, 321 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: he's coming up with new lines of defense for himself. 322 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 8: Look, I mean, we had all seen him aging, we 323 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 8: had all seen him tripping and misspeaking. We had all 324 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 8: seen evidence of decline. But the Biden team, family and 325 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 8: senior advisors were telling everybody, not just media, not just 326 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 8: the public, but also democratic donors and members of Congress, 327 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: their own cabinet, He's fine, he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. 328 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: You know, I think. 329 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 8: Everybody in that circle, in that world should be should 330 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 8: be thinking. I'm certainly thinking as a journalist, what should 331 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 8: I have done differently? You know, Alex and I cover this, 332 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 8: Alex very aggressively from the White House, beat me less so, 333 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 8: and I wish I. 334 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 7: Had been more aggressive. 335 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: There are. 336 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 8: There's a lot of regret, there's a lot of humility. 337 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper sat down with Katie CURRK. That's a real 338 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: hard hitting interview. He talks about his dislike of Hunter Biden, 339 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 3: and he told her that Hunter was the de facto 340 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: chief of staff for. 341 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: The Biden family. 342 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: That ought to scare you, especially if you read the 343 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: book What a Mess Hunter was? 344 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 10: How big a factor was the Hunter stuff. 345 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 7: I think it was considerable. 346 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 8: I think Hunter was driving the decision making for the 347 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 8: family in a way that people he was almost. 348 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 7: Like a chief of staff of the family. 349 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 10: Does that strike you as pretty bizarre? 350 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 8: It's bizarre because I think he is provably, demonstrably unethical, sleazy, 351 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 8: and prone to horrible decisions. 352 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 10: Tell me how you feel, well, I mean. 353 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 7: I just just look at the record. 354 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 8: I mean, after his brother died, he cheated on his 355 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 8: wife with his brother's widow and then got her addicted 356 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 8: to crack. 357 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 7: That's just one thing I could say. 358 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 8: I mean there, I don't have a lot of personal 359 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 8: regard Trim and uh just based on having nothing to 360 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 8: do with I barely have ever met him. 361 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 7: I've met him like once or twice. 362 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 8: But I knew Bo Bo was a great, upstanding guy. 363 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 10: I knew him too, really a real loss for. 364 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 8: The country too, not just for his family, for the country. 365 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 8: But Hunter is not that and the idea of letting 366 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 8: him drive the family car, as it were, is just 367 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 8: really really questionable. 368 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: So then Tapper says he doesn't like Hunter Biden, but 369 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: and he was the de facto chief of staff or 370 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: the Biden family. But he says right wing allegations against 371 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: the family are too disgusting to repeat. Every one of 372 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: them is true, every last one of them. 373 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 8: There's no evidence to support the allegation my father was 374 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 8: financially involved in my business because it did not happen. 375 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 8: There's no fairness or decency and what these Republicans are doing. 376 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: And I do have to say, whatever you think of 377 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 8: Hunter by and then there's certainly a lot of people 378 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 8: in this town, Democrats and Republicans, that do not think. 379 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 7: A lot of him. 380 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 8: There is a certain kind of like cruelty to the 381 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 8: campaign against him. 382 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 7: Where is Hunter? Where is Hunter? Where is Hunterkry? 383 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 8: The right wing is going crazy with all sorts of 384 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 8: allegations about Biden and his family, too disgusting to even 385 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 8: repeat here. I mean, some of the ones I've seen 386 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 8: from the President's son and the president some of the 387 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 8: President's supporters are just wildly unhinged. 388 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 9: I'm not sure what your question was with. 389 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: The Michael Berris. 390 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I lost the plot somewhere. You did you did? I 391 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: read Jake Jeffers Litually, you don't have. 392 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: Biden's aneurysm and near death experience in nineteen eighty eight. Interestingly, 393 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: of all the things that Biden lies about to puff 394 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: himself up in bluff as to his accomplishments. He doesn't 395 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: talk about the aneurysm, so the real medical issues he 396 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: has he avoids. This is something that is very important. 397 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: His son did the same thing. So in twenty fifteen, 398 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: Bo dies. He'd been sick for two years. He was 399 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: the Attorney General of Delaware. He was coming to Houston. 400 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: To go to M. D. 401 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: Anderson and he had some sort of a blastoma. 402 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what it was. 403 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: Joe has talked about him himself being a gold Star dad. 404 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: You know that his son died in battle. Not true. 405 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: His son was sent to the Middle East as a 406 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: lawyer in the Jag Corps and he had been back 407 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: for five years at that point. So no, he wasn't 408 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: in battle, and he didn't die in uniform. As Joe 409 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: has told some gold star families. The man is a 410 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: pathological liar. 411 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 7: He really is. 412 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: You could see that from the nineteen eighty eight election, 413 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: but his son denied. Health problems kept anyone from knowing that. 414 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: Now what's interesting is upon his son's death, Hunter, who 415 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: had had all these problems and was described as a 416 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: disappointment to his dad, Hunter, all of a sudden starts 417 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: dating his now dead brother's widow. 418 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: There is a lot of scuttle. 419 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 7: But that. 420 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: He was. 421 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: Knocking boots with Bo's widow before she was a widow 422 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: because Bo was still alive, and that's the kind of 423 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: person Hunter Biden is. Hunter Biden introduces her to cocaine 424 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: and meth, which she would end up having a problem with. 425 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: That's also a pattern. Hunter Biden introduces the women in 426 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: his life to meth and they get hooked on it. 427 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, when Bo dies, Hunter announces, Hey Dad, 428 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: I'm going to run for mayor of Wilmington. 429 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Hunter. 430 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: You're not allowed to run out of rehab. You've been 431 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: in rehab most of the time. They have a big 432 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: family interdiction with Hunter. He leaves the house and refuses 433 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: to participate. He dates Bo's widow, leaving Bo and his 434 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: widow's children in a real bad pickle. When drama unfolds there, 435 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: Mom gets hooked on cocaine. 436 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: He fathers another child. 437 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: Named Navy with the woman London, who was a stripper 438 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: in DC at the time. 439 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: She in Little Rock. 440 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: He refuses to admit it is his child, then he 441 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: marries a woman to this. 442 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: By the way, to this day he still refuses it. 443 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: But the blood tests show that he did it. And 444 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: you know what, his. 445 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: Answer to the blood test is a Hillary Clinton answer. 446 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: His answer to the blood test is, that's just a 447 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Republican conspiracy. They just did that to embarrass me. They 448 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: probably switched my blood in there. Believable, Hunter, very believable. 449 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: Then he meets a woman and three days later marries 450 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: her and she has a baby shortly thereafter. 451 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know if they got pregnant. The first 452 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: who knows? Who knows? 453 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: The younger sister has serious drug problems. That's Ashley. You 454 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: know about her problems. You know about the book and 455 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: all that. So there is this mythology that develops around 456 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 3: Joe Biden that he's very, very tough, that Joe Biden. 457 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: He writes a book and he says his dad always 458 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: told him to get up. Nobody keeps Joe Biden down. 459 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: He gets up. 460 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 7: Well. 461 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: You start to note there's a disagreement as to when 462 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: the mental decline begins in earnest. There are some who 463 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: trace it to twenty fifteen, about the time bo dies, 464 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: and they blame it on Bo's death. Whatever the reason, 465 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: if he's out of it, he's out of it. Not 466 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: for me to decide. But there increasingly, all the way 467 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: up to and before the twenty twenty election, there is 468 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: discussion about. 469 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: His mental decline. More and more and more so. 470 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: The idea that in twenty twenty he's fine and it's 471 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: not until recently that he declined. 472 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: That is just not true. 473 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: There are too many people who are close to him 474 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: who say that is just not true. His sister val 475 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: who had run every campaign of his since nineteen seven, 476 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: begged him not to run and writes a letter to 477 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: the family that he is in no condition to run, 478 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: he should not run, But of course Jill wins out. 479 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: Another thing you noticed from this is that Jill isn't 480 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 3: that involved politically until about the mid two thousands, and 481 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: by twenty twenty she's running everything and her aid, Yes, 482 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: Jill had an aid. Anthony Bernal becomes deputy communications director, 483 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: and many people claim that he was really running everything, 484 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: Jill's aid, not Joe Biden's aid, which is very odd. 485 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever seen that. 486 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 3: There's also a fun, little, fun little skirmish when Hunter 487 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: is with this woman, Kathleen, He treats her very very, 488 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: very badly, and she goes off and is estranged from 489 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: the Biden family. But while she was with Hunter, she 490 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: became very good friends with Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is 491 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: loyal to Kathleen, the ex wife, and feels that. 492 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: The Bidens treated her horribly. 493 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: So Michelle despises the Bidens and will never come around them, 494 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: and it gets pretty nasty. 495 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Apparently over the years. 496 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Nicki Hayley will give her credit for this phrase, referred 497 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: to the White House as the most privileged nursing home 498 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: in America because it was a nursing home. 499 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden would have in his annual. 500 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: Physical they would do a test a neurological test now 501 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: that is to see if the nerves are operating correctly, 502 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: but they would not do which every other president had done, 503 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: a cognitive exam, and the reason is his cognitive levels 504 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: were in deep, steep decline. Jake Tapper makes the point, 505 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: and I don't think this is just a what about 506 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 3: ism that this has been going on elderly people in 507 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: our government. This had been going on around twenty twenty already, 508 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: and he's absolutely right about this. Kay Granger from Texas, 509 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: she was in an assistant living center in Texas and 510 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: nobody knew. There are reports even her staff didn't know 511 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 3: where she was. That should be criminal. She was still 512 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: holding the seat as a congressman. Mitch McConnell, freezing up, glitching. 513 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: What was going on? You had the speaker, You had 514 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: the Senate majority leader who can't do a press conference. 515 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: He was as bad as Biden. We have to acknowledge 516 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 3: that strom Thurman. Strom Thurmann died as a US Senator 517 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 3: at one hundred years old. Dianne Feinstein