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Speaker 4: I am delighted to be here. I'm here to kiss

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Speaker 3: Of the Keen of Radio, the podcast where guys can

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Speaker 4: But like it's it's right after nine to eleven, it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's a very somber opening outwalks Tom Cruise

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Speaker 3: To use my burp sounds. Okay, well leave it in,

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Speaker 4: But no, just Tom Cruise Adult Braces opening like bringing

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Speaker 3: I do love award show like pageantry. It's so good.

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Speaker 3: about something else. This core table literally on the table, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: You know? This is a hard thing for me to

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Speaker 3: I was not supposed to look you. You showed up

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, kind of a we'll say it's a blue

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Speaker 4: I think that's an a six shoebox. Look, Bridger, obviously

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Speaker 4: there's been a horrible mistake. Tell me who's asked I

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Speaker 4: need to fire you. Ann Alise was insistent, I got

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Speaker 4: a lot of misinformation coming out here, like you're looking

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Speaker 3: A false flag has been planted. That's fine. Okay, well

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Speaker 3: I guess while you're here. You know, podcasts are about

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Speaker 3: And again, I just wanted this to be a space

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Speaker 4: You know, the old Jeff would have lied, he would

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Speaker 3: You this is an honest jet. Yes, it is a

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Speaker 3: I just want to clear the air with you. Man.

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00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: Look like you are one of my dearest friends.

438
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: You deserve a guy, can't just what That's what being

439
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: a guy's all about is getting your little buddy a

440
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: gift when he doesn't expect it. Okay, Okay, that's that's

441
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: a guy move. Do you have that soundboard you of

442
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 4: guy move?

443
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: Ready to go? Guy move? I'm going to rewind the

444
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: tape a little bit here, and you're already nagging me,

445
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: little buddy.

446
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

447
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling I'm feeling insulted. I'm feeling diminished. Sure,

448
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: you're seven feet tall, I'm three foot six. I get it, Jeff.

449
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: You know it's nice to hear you admit some to

450
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: be honest for a minute, but then to immediately attack

451
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: my stature as a little gross. This will be released publicly,

452
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: of so people will be able to make They're gonna

453
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: be able to listen to both sides here and take

454
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: away what they want. You want me to open the

455
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: gift here on the.

456
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 4: Podcast Honestly yes, because I think I think this isn't

457
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 4: I can heal us. I think this moves forward. It's

458
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 4: something that I think you specifically have been kind of

459
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: hinting at.

460
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: For a long time. Okay, so yeah, I mean, go

461
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: for it. I wouldn't be surprised if I opened this

462
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: to like a poisonous snake, you know, kill Bill's style,

463
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: just snatching me in the face and you watch me die.

464
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: But if it's rather heavy, this is a very bricks

465
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: or something.

466
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna okay, well, yeah, keep going. Yeah, okay,

467
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna open the box. Here it's the shoe box.

468
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: As I said, now we've got the uh this is exhat.

469
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: There are two items in this box. I just caught

470
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: a glimpse of this.

471
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: I've missed. I've missed things.

472
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: I thought I would double up and give you the

473
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 4: two things you want the most.

474
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: So, first of all, this is the first time I've

475
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: seen a box of this product since about nineteen ninety four.

476
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: It's Caprice Son Strawberry Kiwi their classic flavor. Absolutely, I

477
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: don't know. I think they may have had a tropical

478
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: flavor or oh yeah, but no, it was always Kiwi

479
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: straw that's the one.

480
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: That's the way.

481
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: Okay, we've got there is another box in here, another

482
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: item in here. But let's get in. Should we get

483
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: into the Caprice on the force?

484
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: Yes?

485
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: Okay, this is extremely heavy.

486
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: It's it's gotten heavier over the years.

487
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's thirty percent less sugar at this point.

488
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: Number one lead, the.

489
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: Number one kid's favorite juice drink. Look, I just thought,

490
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 4: you know, we're both busy professionals. Sometimes in Hollywood you

491
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: lose sight of the joy, you lose of that childhood joy.

492
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: And I thought, well, what's something that can bring Bridger

493
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: specifically back to childhood, something to make him become the

494
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: child again?

495
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, delicious not he doesn't take care.

496
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: Of himself, for God's sake. When's the last time someone

497
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: handed Bridger a nice little treat, a sugary juice? Absolutely, Jeff,

498
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: when was the last time you had a Caprice son.

499
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: A while ago?

500
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: And to be honest, I almost took these out and

501
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 4: had one before I get.

502
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: I think I think we should take them out now.

503
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: I think because first.

504
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: Of all, I want an impenetrable Yeah, I want to

505
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: see if they're still doing that extremely difficult Yeah, it

506
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 4: looks like it's still I cannot believe this is still packaging.

507
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: It looks like thank you a Onalis was holding the

508
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: mic while I was opening the box. It's still in

509
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: this bizarre space age.

510
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: It's like a ration. Right, Yeah, this is something that

511
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: you you know, you're desperate in Korea. It's nineteen fifty

512
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: the Korean War is waging. Is that time period of

513
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: my getting believe fifty to fifty three. And then you've

514
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: got this thing that's almost impossible to get into, but

515
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: you're so thirsty that you'll do anything. And then it's

516
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: got this violent motion. We're both going to get in here.

517
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

518
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: It gives you the killing an instinct as a child

519
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: at the moment when you could turn back and you don't.

520
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: This straw could have gone into it. One of my

521
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: there's eyes before you take a sip. Just you know,

522
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: you're eight years old, boy, what would you like to

523
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: do in life?

524
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: Maybe do comedy, maybe have a hit global podcast.

525
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: It's a did you get right into it? Got rat? Okay,

526
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm putting my dis to miss a step. Sometimes I

527
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: would get desperate enough to like cut it open with

528
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: a knife, a little mouse.

529
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: Okay, this is my first sip of a Caprice On

530
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: just feel the soccer field, probably in twenty years.

531
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Feel that grass allergy like actually probably more than twenty years,

532
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: twenty five times there we go. It tastes exactly the same.

533
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: They've done nothing to change the formula other than saying

534
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: I think they did get in trouble at some point.

535
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: For having too much sugar, because there was the period

536
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: poisoned all those kids.

537
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: When they poise it, there was kind of that national

538
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: panic when kids dropping down everywhere, elementary schools full of

539
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: just children poisoned by Caprice's son. I guess legally we

540
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: should say that's probably not true. You know, I don't

541
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: need Caprice Sons lawyers. Well, they've done it before, and

542
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: they'll do it again. I just got out of a

543
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 3: lawsuit with Caprice Son. I can't do it again. So

544
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: where were you were you drinking Caprice Sons, Like on

545
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: the soccer field, you were team sports, So I mean, it.

546
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: Was it was that, but it was also you know what,

547
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about this, like it was something

548
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 4: I had with my one friend. I'm from a town

549
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: of two hundred people in the very middle of nowhere

550
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 4: in California. I had one friend who like had a

551
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: stalked refrigerator like his his mom, I thinks, shopped a

552
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: lot and got a lot of like snacks and all

553
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: those things, and they had like an extra refrigerator with

554
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: like pepsi in the garage.

555
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Like one of those families fancy you had a lot.

556
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And he had a he always had caprice son,

557
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: and we were just like I remember specifically, like Spider

558
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: Man two on the PlayStation two came out, Oh sure,

559
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: and that was that was just a wild ride. But

560
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: when I was in like pretty like the darker not

561
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: the darker, but like you know, the tense parts of

562
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: making this movie and stuff or deadlines or things are

563
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: going off the rails or whatever. Like I did have

564
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: this little trick where I'm like, you know what, like

565
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: think back to like you're playing Spider Man two, you

566
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: got a caprice son, like try to hit that like

567
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: almost like elemental brain sugar chemistry of like you know what,

568
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: it's not that big of a deal, Like you'll figure

569
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: out the line for Michelle feif for like.

570
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: He's big and small and maybe he does.

571
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: Something over year like it's great, like it it actually

572
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: was like this grounding mechanism for me.

573
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: I didn't put that together. Oh I think that's a

574
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: wonderful thing that I almost never do, which is, uh,

575
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: take any more.

576
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: How much gratitude anymore? How much gratitude are you practicing?

577
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: These absolutely? How much gratitude you can even? Oh she's

578
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: she's shaking her head. Yeah, that's not good.

579
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: Some of us aren't as grateful as Jeff Lovenes. So

580
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: you now you've come on to kind of make us

581
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: all feel like.

582
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 4: I'm doing something pivot like a sex criminal who then

583
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: becomes about like radical acceptance or something like his meditation journey.

584
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Or No, this is actually a question I'm interested in.

585
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: Would your parents pack you lunch for school or would

586
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: you have a school lunch? I was a little bit

587
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: of both.

588
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes there would be yeah, like a little sandwich was

589
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: talking about. Mostly I think there was school lunch, and

590
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: I worked in the snack bar to get out of

591
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: sitting anywhere, right like he was always in the library

592
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: or the snack bar, volunteering. Looking back, it's maybe the

593
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: saddest detail. I did not eat lunch with anyone.

594
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: Friends with all of the teachers.

595
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, can we just say a minute, like the

596
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 4: simp can we appreciate the high school librarian who like

597
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: knows you're a loser and is kind and is like

598
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: kind to you. That is someone who needs like a

599
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: metal or a statue, like the fact of like it's

600
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: it's too sad to say out loud, why don't you

601
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: go with your friends? Like she knows, and it's just like.

602
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh, how are you today? Like a very like that's

603
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: the only lifeline you've got, right, that's kind of they're

604
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: kind of a benevolent god in that situation. They're kind

605
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: of hovering over and looking down at and I'm sure

606
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: her life isn't going too great either. Librarian addicted to drugs,

607
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: doing everything everything they can to just get back on track,

608
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: and they can't. So now they're befriending children exactly.

609
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: But this is this is my way of saying, bridget

610
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: take a minute to just like become the child again, okay.

611
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: And for me, it's also like the carpet of Barnes

612
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: and Noble. I would interest I would sit on My

613
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: mom is working at Walmart, which a little bit further away,

614
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: so there's a there's a Barnes and Noble, and I

615
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: would just sit there and read like comics and all

616
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: that stuff all day, like hours after scho and that

617
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: was a good way to like also ground me.

618
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: And we're like, you know what, like.

619
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: This is something Yeah, like feel the feel the Barnes

620
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: and Noble carpet on your hands.

621
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: It's like that's your field of wheat. I'm trying to

622
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: think because you're learning home from war, I'm trying to

623
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: remember the Barnes and Noble carpet, but I can't. I

624
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: remember more the tile of the magazines.

625
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: You know there it exists not to create a memory

626
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: in your mind, like it's the absence of a carpet.

627
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble, they're still in business. A few weeks ago,

628
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: which location at the Grove? The Grove, Okay, I.

629
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: Want to see a film with Grove the nearby. I

630
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: didn't go there specifically, and I had a little bit

631
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: of time to kill, so I jumped into a Barnes

632
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: and Noble.

633
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: And that's a three level. It's a three level. Yes,

634
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be.

635
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: There's a lot of the they very generous, like puzzle layouts,

636
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: a lot of hard media.

637
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like that first floor is almost

638
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: completely in essential CDs right selling CDs and magazine CDs

639
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: and then a couple. I guess they have the tables

640
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: for the hot reds or the seasonal reads, and then

641
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: probably use that to clear out when they're having a

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: book signing. I think so. Yeah, you know, when Jenny

643
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: McCarthy's there.

644
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: They throw all that still be treaked in the trash. Yeah.

645
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: I was a a pretty frequent Barnes and Noble customer,

646
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: or at least browser, never really buying the book.

647
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: It's like the only corporation I have like sympathy. I

648
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: don't know, I have an odd like connection to it. It

649
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: feels like you're going to watch the Titanic go down, right,

650
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: and you actually went on an earlier voyage that a

651
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: Titanic got you across safely, so you're.

652
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: Like sad, that's well. I mean every giant corporation from

653
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: basically nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and five now

654
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: feels unbelievably quaint.

655
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's grandmother, right, We're going to fall in the

656
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: shower one day.

657
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. The other question I was going to ask

658
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 3: you just culturally, I'm curious. I don't even know if

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: this is I guess it's more regional. Would you call,

660
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: we would call school lunch hot lunch, and lunch you

661
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: brought to school cold lunch. Have you ever heard heard

662
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: of I.

663
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Don't think i've it rings a bell, but I can't

664
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: say with any I think hot lunch was the usual thing.

665
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: I remember heard cold lunch, cold lunch, lunch, home lunch

666
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: or lunch from home. I don't know, I can't quite

667
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: un Yeah, I'm interested in that regionally. I need somebody

668
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: to do a whole map, one of those maps you

669
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: see on buzz feet that says if you grew up

670
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: in around top porn searches and.

671
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 4: Also hot lunch, cold lunch, leave Minnesota alone.

672
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've talked to Capri Son, I do want

673
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: to I guess we should get into what's happening next

674
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: in this box of course. Yeah, do you have anything

675
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: left to say about Caprice?

676
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: And I'm.

677
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: I just want you to enjoyed. It's a beautiful, hot day.

678
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: It's a I could be out, you know, kicking the

679
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: ball around. Absolutely.

680
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: I just want anytime you get a little caught up

681
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: in the in the success the gold microphone gets a

682
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: little heavy, I want you to remember twelve year old Bridger.

683
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm willing to tuck it down a.

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: Sweet sweet are said, and then throw it directly into

685
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: the ocean.

686
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: That's where it. I do wonder what this is. I mean,

687
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: it can't be good in any way for the environment.

688
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: They have not they have not updated recyclable at all.

689
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't even indicate where you should throw this away.

690
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 3: It's kind of like an odd hybrid between aluminium and plastic,

691
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: which makes try to get rid of it. And I

692
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: let's say the paper, yeah, the pouch. The box is

693
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: very explicit here. It says, sure, recycle the box the pouch.

694
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: The pouch has a giant cross through it. It's like,

695
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: do not recycle? It says sure? Does it really? No,

696
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't. I would love if it says take directly

697
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: to the forest and just bury. But yeah, so there

698
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: they have some some steps they probably should take. I

699
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: mean the fact that this company is still ex and

700
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: also I guess it's part of the Kraft Heins Foods company.

701
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: So Craft Heines, you're on watch ketchup family is making

702
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: the pre sun Teresa Hines Kerry, I'm reaching out. I'm saying,

703
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: get this package recyclable. It's the least you could do. Okay,

704
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 3: let's get into the box here. I got a hint

705
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: of what's happening about it, of course I caught a glimpse.

706
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: It's so I did see Da Vinci Code, and now

707
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying that this is in fact the audio book. Yeah,

708
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: this is like a I think it's.

709
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: Fourteen compact disc audio book of the Da Vinci Code

710
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: I saw in a bookstore.

711
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: I just thought of you.

712
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: It it's an adventure to throw, right, and I know

713
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: you like to ask questions. I know you know you're

714
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: a freak for Ron Howard, so like it all.

715
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: Kind of made sense.

716
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: Also, the box to me, like someone ripped this out

717
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: of someone's hands and taped it.

718
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Looks like a true I mean, what could this have

719
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: possibly gone through? I don't know.

720
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: That's a thrill, right, there's exclusive interviews with the screenwriter

721
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: Da Vinci Code. Uh, there's bonus feet. Dan Brown goes

722
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: on and talks about symbols.

723
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: You know, I just thought, I want to give you

724
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: a story.

725
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: You're a writer as well, and I thought, you know,

726
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: if you're like me, you're a little drained right now,

727
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: you've emptied the tank and when's the last time you

728
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: just played?

729
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: When the last time, you just let a master you.

730
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: All you have to do is hit play and let

731
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: the master. He's a clockmaker.

732
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: If nothing else, Dan Brown is a clockmaker. He's a

733
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: master of suspense. He you know, every detail is carefully planned,

734
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: laid out in such a way that you will be thrilled.

735
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 3: And also, uh, you're going to learn some things about

736
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church that may or may not have been

737
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: completely fabricated. I mean the condition of this what I'm

738
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: up picturing is that you know, a Catholic priest wanted

739
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: to hear it. I didn't want his fellow priests to know,

740
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: so he's been keeping it under his pillow. Eventually it

741
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: was discovered. There a fight and struggle. There are signs

742
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: of struggle. What is the head priest called a monastery?

743
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: We're talking about monks, the arch the archbishop.

744
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: I know this is where my ignorance of the Catholic Church.

745
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Pastor and youth pastor. Of the two, they're like sith lords.

746
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: They can only be two of them at any Protestant church.

747
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, neither of us is steeped in the Catholic tradition.

748
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: Friar oh, I have no idea. The only friar. I

749
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: can imagine is a specifically the animated who's like a

750
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: mole or something friar. But yeah, this definitely was. Somebody

751
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 3: thought that they were going to get the full story

752
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: while still posing as a member high ranking member of

753
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church. It was discovered this could have been

754
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: Pride from the Pope's hands himself. Yeah. Yeah, like the Pope.

755
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 4: With fourteen compacted discs just enthralled hess a little disc mon.

756
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: He's quiet, like secretly listening to it at night, and

757
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: then an army of nuns just pours in, rips it

758
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: from his hands. Have you ever read the da Vinci Code?

759
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 4: I never have, no, so I would love to have

760
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 4: that after you. Okay, I can tell you hate it,

761
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: you know, just say it on the table. You hate it?

762
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: You hate my gifts?

763
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: You've never I mean I would ask for a receipt

764
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: after the episode usually, but I'm happy to have it

765
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: now because these are both going back to the store.

766
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: There is no receipt.

767
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: You just tell me what to sign on the fucking

768
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: check Bridger, Okay, you just want money for it.

769
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: I mean I assume. Okay, So the da Vinci Code

770
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: was it says right here also, clearly you should have

771
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: taken off the sticker. It was five dollars.

772
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: Ninety five value, okay, sixty seven.

773
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: I would have appreciated if you had paid MSRP on this,

774
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 3: but you obviously wanted to buy us. You don't care

775
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: about me. You go to the grocery store, you get

776
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: the Capri's Sun. Who knows how many coupons you used

777
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: to get this? I mean it's obviously like a bulk box.

778
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: Who probably bought it at Costco. I'm gonna guess, I

779
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: don't know, somewhere between forty and eight eighty dollars. Back

780
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: to the da Vinci Code. I did read the da

781
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: Vinci Code when it first came out. It was you know,

782
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: I was swept the before you dropping. What is it about? Well,

783
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: every chapter is a page, So that's the first thing

784
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: you need to know about the DaVinci Code. So it's

785
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: it's that is every there's long, nine hundred chapters long,

786
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: and forty pages in forty pages. No, it's I think

787
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: every author that is one little lesson that they could

788
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 3: all take from Dan Brown. Regardless of how it affects

789
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: the reading experience. You should break your book down into

790
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: two page max chapters because the sense of accomplishment makes

791
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: you feel incredible. It's like I'm powering through this thing.

792
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: I've read fifty pages and it's only been twenty I mean,

793
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: I've read fifty chapters. Give me the baby, I love

794
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: like I love.

795
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: After you've maybe made it through a modest chapter and

796
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: then the next chapter is like a page, and then

797
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: you got actually three pages.

798
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: On the read, it feels amazing. Seventy pages today a

799
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: chapter that's you know, fifty pages. That's a tough hill

800
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: to cline.

801
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: And I like it, Yeah, especially when they like no

802
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: paragraph breaks like the Virginia Wolf style all the way down.

803
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: It's tough. I don't like a challenge. I think that's

804
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: what it comes down to. But Dan Brown is kind

805
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: of a friend to the reader in making these chapters

806
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: that are not only extremely short, they're you know, probably

807
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: third grade reading level. So again, Dan Brown, you're doing

808
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: an incredible chop. You've well, here's the thing, I'm hearing

809
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: a lot of judgment.

810
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: You've read the book, you've never listened to the book,

811
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: you've never heard it brought to life. I'm sure they

812
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: probably got Tom Hanks. Do you have a quick you know, oh,

813
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: and there's a track at least where he's in. You're

814
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 4: listening to the DaVinci Code.

815
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 3: Probably sings the theme song or something, and it's read

816
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: by Paul Michael, who's performed on Party. Macbeth heard of it,

817
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: and the Wizard of Oz heard of it. He's also

818
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: appeared on television in Alias, as well as several British sitcoms.

819
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: So he's no fool. And it looks like there's an

820
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: official website that is not Da Vinci Code dot com.

821
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: It's so dark the Conofman dot com. What what I assume?

822
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 3: And you know I read Da Vinci Code. I don't

823
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: know it's it's been eighteen years or something. I don't remember,

824
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 3: but I have to believe that that's something that happens

825
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: in the book. I'm sure somebody says so dark The

826
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: con of Man then runs off into the shadows. I

827
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: was told I can't remember who I you know. I

828
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: saw the first Divinci Code movie for whatever reason, did

829
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: not enjoy myself. But somebody told me the second or

830
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: third movie. He involves the Pope jumping out of a helicopter.

831
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: Have you heard of this?

832
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: No?

833
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: I amn't. What does he do? I don't know. I

834
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: don't know where he's headed. I don't know what's happening.

835
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: And now, just even bringing that up, I feel like

836
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: I need to watch it.

837
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 4: It's not like a discuss. It's not like Tom Cruise

838
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: with a mask is the Pope. It's got a cold

839
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: open fer mission impossible. It's the actual voice of Christ

840
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: on Earth.

841
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: The Pope rips his mask off and jumps out of

842
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: a helicopter. I don't know. I mean, and that's the

843
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: thing about Dan Brown is anything can happen.

844
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: That's his promise. It's a threat. Anything can happen in

845
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 4: this book. Have you read a have you ever?

846
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you're an excellent reader and with excellent taste,

847
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: and you're always reading good things. But have you read

848
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: any trash? I should? I don't know.

849
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: Even as like a kid, our teen I read when

850
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: I was a raised very very Christian. I read The

851
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: Left Behind for teens, oh, which is like teens in

852
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: the Rapture.

853
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that was pretty bad. I read like twelve of

854
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: the books. Oh they're addictive. I imagine.

855
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: Did you read a lot of like Christian themed stuff

856
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: when you were a kid. No, it was always like

857
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: I like Breakaway teen magazine. Do you ever have that,

858
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: like just a magazine begging you not.

859
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: To have sex?

860
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: Basically the most like the worst magazine sales strategy.

861
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 3: No, Like within Mormon culture, it's very despite it being

862
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: a Christian religion, it's not really in the Christian pop

863
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: culture space.

864
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of it.

865
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: They haven't really commercialized it. Well, they have in ways.

866
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: They have something called like the Living Scriptures, which is

867
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: like poorly animated versions of like Bible and short stories

868
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: that they sell at the mall.

869
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: I was, you know, honestly that I'm glad I listened

870
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: to the James Austin Johnson episode. I was going to

871
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: get you a delightful Christian book on the shelf there

872
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 4: they go.

873
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that just speaks to how many of

874
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: us have been touched by the world of strange Christianity

875
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: books and just trying to keep teen wild teens.

876
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: Teens are yeah, yeah, out of the bedroom. I have

877
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: as many people have in sex at thirty two, eighteen

878
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: or thirty two? Is that?

879
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think we've I think it's probably time

880
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: to play a game of course, you know, let's play

881
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: a gift master. Okay, I need a number between one

882
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: and ten for two. Two. Oh, I like a nice

883
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: tight two. So I have to do some light calculating

884
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: on my computer. You have the microphone. You can promote recommencing.

885
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: Do whatever you want. I'll be right back, man, Okay, yeah,

886
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: what are some things I like?

887
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: Read a book second hand time an oral history of

888
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: the Soviet Union. Very good, very informative, all stations of life,

889
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: fascinating period. I think Patricia Lockwood's no one is talking

890
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: about this novel very good, very good modern novel. Uh

891
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: ant Man and the Wasp. Quantum Mania probably gonna come

892
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: out in like a year and a half. Maybe I'll

893
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: be dead if so, on my memory. Make sure they

894
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: have like they make sure they memorialize me, like three

895
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: times through the movie.

896
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean, like Bridger's got a show.

897
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: I guess he's talking about that, and it's very you

898
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: know in the after party, very good show. I'm just

899
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: trying to eat less salt failing. Sweet potatoes are really good,

900
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: but you need so many sweet potato now that it

901
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 4: hits that salty crunch though that pizza, it's hard. I

902
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: just feel like when I picture you in your apartment

903
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: eating a sweet potato, I feel like you're like kind

904
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: of you know, like putting coal into the stove.

905
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't know why I live the way.

906
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: My apartment is fully slanted, like things roll down it.

907
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: You're constantly climbing up hill in your own parking space,

908
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: scrapes my car. I don't have enough trash. Bit.

909
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: I just live in philth I live in You've got

910
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: to treat yourself a little better. I mean, when I'm

911
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: treating myself better than someone, I know that they're not

912
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: treating themselves very well. Something is wrong. Something's deeply wrong. Jeff.

913
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: This this game is gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts,

914
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: three potential items you can give away, experiences, whatever, you know.

915
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: We know how the world of gifting works. And then

916
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three famous people's celebrities, and you're gonna

917
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: tell me which gift you'll give which person and why. Okay,

918
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: does that make any sense at all?

919
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: Yay?

920
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: I got it, I got Okay. I'm a student of

921
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: the show, end of life. Okay. The gifts you'll be

922
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: giving today are first up, we have just a nice

923
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: gift that anyone would appreciate, A baby grand piano, baby classy. Uh,

924
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: you know that mirror surface black. It's gorgeous. It fits

925
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: in any home. It's the baby Okay, next up, you've

926
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: got this is Uh, it's a gift and I think

927
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: it someone could appreciate it. Oh, yes, question do I

928
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: ask questions?

929
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: After you go through all three you can ask this

930
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 4: game is all over the baby grand piano. Just to

931
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: clarify when they say a baby like isn't actual like

932
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: an adult can use it?

933
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: Or was just like muppet size like something that like

934
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: kind of like Schroeder. Yeah, blind check piano, So correct

935
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. But a baby grand piano is

936
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: kind of the Quinn sized bed of pianos where it's

937
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: like this is Yeah, I believe a grand piano is

938
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: apparently enormous. I don't know that I've ever encountered one.

939
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: Maybe at the symphony. Well do they have a piano

940
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: with the symphony. Again, I'm such an ignorant. Think they do.

941
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be there at least they need

942
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 4: it right in case there's an emergency.

943
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: Baby grand I think it's more of that piano. But

944
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: for the home. Okay, So it's the smart piano. It's

945
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: the smarts It tracks your blood pressure. How many steps

946
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: you took during the listening, just had a horrible idea.

947
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 3: The smart piano, it'll start your oven for you. No, baby,

948
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: grand piano is just a slightly smaller version of the

949
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: grand what you're describing this muppet baby's style thing. I

950
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: think that that's probably called a toy piano. Okay, yeah,

951
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: of course. Okay. Then next, this gift is more towels

952
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 3: than they need. So it's you know, initially probably nice.

953
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: They're getting some towels, but then there are only so

954
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: many towels a person can own. I'm currently in this

955
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: situation right now.

956
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: You have towels, like eight towels. That's too many, and

957
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 4: I think that's the one area of your life where

958
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 4: you have kind of an abument. Accidentally, Amazon basics, too

959
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: many towels over and none of them are good.

960
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm stuck with them. What you're describing as a roll

961
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: of paper towels, yeah, basically okay, so more towels than

962
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: they need. And finally, this is a little less conventional,

963
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: more of an experience and something from the heart. Your

964
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: hand in marriage, so this person will be marrying you, okay,

965
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: and these they want to but that's up to you,

966
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, This could be kind of a Victorian era

967
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: style thing where two unwilling parties end up in a marriage. Yes,

968
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: of course, secret and keep that in mind while you

969
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: think about these people. Number one is extremely famous. You know,

970
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: he's in lots of commercials. He's guest hosting Shark Tank.

971
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart. Uh huh. Okay. Number two we love her

972
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: despite her friendship with Mel Gibson Jody Foster. Oh okay,

973
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: she's tried to kind of pull Mel into the spotlight

974
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: over and over. We don't know why. But she's been great.

975
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: She's you know, she's inspired assassination attempts, She's done it all.

976
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: I mean, she is truly a triple threat. And finally,

977
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: this is a group of people Bell and Sebastian. So

978
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: that's I don't know how many people are the Scottish

979
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: band Bell and Sebastian. I think there are probably five

980
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: to six people in this band. Oh yeah, yeah, are

981
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: they still around?

982
00:50:51,840 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 4: They're still around, They're still kicking it right, Okay, Jeff

983
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: is sweating. He's just freaking out, I would offer. I mean,

984
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: I feel Kevin Hart's got to have enough towels. He

985
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: has he has, he does the workout apps as well, right,

986
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: it's very fit.

987
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: Is he a musician? I wouldn't be surprised, Like.

988
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: I feel he needs to do something that he you

989
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: know what, much like the Caprice son.

990
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: You know, he's very talented man.

991
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: He's a hard working guys and a lot of stuff

992
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 4: seems like maybe he's stuck on the train of success. Okay, sure,

993
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: maybe he needs something to just take a step back,

994
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: have a Caprice son. Remember why you got into all

995
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: of this, Right, he slowed down a little bit. Maybe

996
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: you don't have to do all the Nike run training

997
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: apps or the you know, like the commercials where you're

998
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 4: in like a bucket of.

999
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: Ice or something. We get it.

1000
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: Like you're a funny guy, you work hard. Like I

1001
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: would maybe give him the.

1002
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: Baby grand Oh interesting fashion.

1003
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: They play piano, they know they probably have a piano

1004
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 4: lying around. Yeah, okay, so Kevin Hart's getting a baby

1005
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 4: grand piano. This is you know, like there's a word

1006
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: if Okay, look this was the seventies. Jodie Foster, very brave,

1007
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: you know, very pioneering, incredible actress, had some secrets in

1008
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 4: her life. Has I do anything that she deals with hard?

1009
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: Probably grown up? I would be.

1010
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: Willing in the eighties or something to like offer her

1011
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 4: my hand. I would be like her shield, basically.

1012
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: Like I would.

1013
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: I would be her husband in like the eighties that

1014
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: everyone knows, like, oh, yeah, you would be her beard.

1015
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: I would be her beard. You'd be joy, I mean,

1016
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: you would treat me well. I would go I would.

1017
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: Go to the Oh, you'd be best of friends, the Premiers.

1018
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 4: I'd meet Anthony Hopkins. I would go to Silence with

1019
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: the Lambs premieres. And then of course, I mean, screaming

1020
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 4: fights every night, furious screaming fights. She would make flight

1021
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: plan about me, like she would the beaver. What I

1022
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 4: would tell her that was bad for her and she

1023
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: would freak out. He's been a dear friend. She's very loyal.

1024
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 4: She's had some blind spots with Mel. Loyal to a fault.

1025
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 4: I would call Mel Gibson out with my own tape,

1026
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: and so I think I would offer, I mean, and

1027
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: then we divorced. We'd separate. Years later, we'd see each

1028
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: other at a party and it would actually be this

1029
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: warm like how are you There's so much of one

1030
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: like me too, like and we sit and now we're

1031
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 4: dear friends, but in like you know, seventy nine. For

1032
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: about ninety three or so, I was sort of like

1033
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: there for her when she.

1034
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: Needed me some real ups and down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1035
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: I could really picture Jody at a party doing kind

1036
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: of a very clip hey.

1037
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh oh yeah, it's almost physical abuse.

1038
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 3: She's that good. Yeah, Jody, I think that's great. So

1039
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: you've got one thing left then, I mean there's a

1040
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: lot in Bellot.

1041
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: I assume they all live in the same house together,

1042
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: like they're a beautiful Scottish manner.

1043
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: I think given more towels than they need.

1044
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, like, how many towels are we talking about.

1045
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 4: I mean they're sweaty, sweaty Scottish rock star. They're going

1046
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: through a towel every ten minutes. I think, like a

1047
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: guitar at a concert. There's I never got that, so

1048
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: many guitars coming in.

1049
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh the guitars. When you get to that point when

1050
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 3: you just have people sending off stage holding a tuned guitar.

1051
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

1052
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: I know, I was talking big and saying, no, I

1053
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: have too many towels, you know, trying to kind of

1054
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: connect to the material. You know, it's a it's a

1055
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: safety thing. I never thought I used to. I used

1056
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: to be like a two towel guy. Right, and suddenly,

1057
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: much like with you know, sex the city or whatever,

1058
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: I've learned from outside perspectives like, yeah, I shouldn't do this,

1059
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: I should not live like an animal.

1060
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean speaking of and just like that. A rumor

1061
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: I heard was that Sarah Jessica Parker brought all of

1062
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: her own pillows to set. Don't know if I can't

1063
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 3: confirm that that is a rumor. I have to say.

1064
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pillow acting this year. Yeah, there's

1065
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 4: a lot of grief. There's a lot of like lounging

1066
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: in you know, the husband death stuff. So yeah, a

1067
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: lot of pillows, a lot of faces on pillows.

1068
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: Okay, you did an excellent job, h thank you. I mean,

1069
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: too many towels for Belle and Sebastian is probably looking

1070
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 3: like four hundred towels now. This is the final segment

1071
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: of the podcast. This is called I Said No Emails.

1072
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 3: The listener writes into I Said no gifts at gmail

1073
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 3: dot com. They have a question, it's usually a problem

1074
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: I have to deal with it. I ask humbly for

1075
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: the guests to help me absolutely, if you're willing to

1076
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: do a little service, project for the next few minutes

1077
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: or so. I think we would all appreciate it absolutely. No, Okay,

1078
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: let me read this. It says dear bridger and most

1079
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: honorable slash disobedient guests. So they're getting into some adjectives

1080
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: there that little tricks. Yeah, but but but but but

1081
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: by let's see, I need some help coming up with

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00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: a group gift idea for a dear friend's upcoming graduation.

1083
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: My friend Meil Mail forty went back to school at

1084
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: a later age in life and quickly be the glue

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: to an amazing friend group. The rest of us are

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: in our mid twenties. After undergrad Mel moved to Colorado

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00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: for work, and it's rare that we see each other

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00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: as the rest of us scattered throughout California. I'm getting

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00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: a feeling the group has kind of trying to get

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00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: away from out. About ten of us will be making Okay,

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00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: we'll be making the trek to Denver come mid May

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: for Mel's graduation and he will be receiving his master's

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: degree in finance. We all want to collectively get a

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00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: gift for him that will show him how much he

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 3: means to us and how proud we are of him,

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00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: any assistance would be greatly appreciated. He okay, and he

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: is a fan of good Tequila, the Dodgers, the forty

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: nine ers, and is also a pretty solid DJ. I'm

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00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: sorry for the length, but not really, as they are

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00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: all important details. Okay, then don't apologize. Thank you. Adrina.

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: Adrina and her mid twenties, her kind of gen Z

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00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: friends have become friends with this late age millennial who

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm suspicious of immediately.

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00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also, when's the last time you had a

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00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: friend group of ten people that went anywhere like they're

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 4: going halfway across the country.

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00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: My feeling is they all worked at Starbucks together and

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 3: he was the manager.

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00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: Okay, that's the only time to ten people. He's not

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: there to be your friend. That's that's a compromising position

1111
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: right there. It's a power imbalance, a.

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: Huge I mean, we've got an age different not an

1113
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: age gap discourse to be any right, there's power balance.

1114
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: He could have offered assistant manager to any of these people,

1115
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: and he didn't. I before fleeing to Colorado and the

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00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: rest of them scattering.

1117
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: The finance capital of America, Colorado, Colorful, Colorado.

1118
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: So what do we get?

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: You know?

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I'm going to say an

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: age appropriate friend. Mel could use a single person in

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: his life who is in his forties. Absolutely. Yeah. The

1123
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: fact that he's hanging out with all this TikTok house.

1124
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: Now I'm now actually saying they were probably in a

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. They travel together. Yeah, they're always shirtless. He

1126
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: was demanding, you know, you got to up the production

1127
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: of these videos.

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: We've got twelve videos a day, complicated prank videos.

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: And then obviously kind of folded. They didn't get the

1130
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: traction on social media that they needed. It's so hard.

1131
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 3: It's very hard to break through at this point. There's

1132
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: so much noise in that space that when you're a

1133
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: Mel with your ten twenty three year olds, it's you're

1134
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: kind of a it's an uphill bes does he I

1135
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: feel like Mel's almost pain for them.

1136
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: He's like trafficking there, like no one travels in a

1137
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: group of ten.

1138
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: He's I feel he's offered to.

1139
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 4: Like, oh, come out, come out to Denver, and they're

1140
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: walking into a trap.

1141
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: Suddenly they get his address. It's another manship.

1142
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you are like I forget her name,

1143
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: but she is walking into a trap and you're leading

1144
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: your friends this is a new Donner party. You're gonna

1145
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: be eating each other to get out of this guy's clutches.

1146
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: A daughter party within the within a TikTok house. All

1147
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: they have is like diet mountain dew and salt saltenes.

1148
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: They're in too good of shape, like they have no

1149
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: body fat to survive.

1150
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: Them cut, so they just he needs them cutting beautifully,

1151
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: and they're spending all the money on teeth bleach.

1152
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel the gift is just showing up

1153
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: with ten of your buddies, show what you've been through,

1154
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: cheered out. I mean, what do you get a forty

1155
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: year old man? Oh, besides another chance, besides a heavy

1156
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: hand on the shoulders height, I'm sorry, this is it.

1157
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: I think that that's the perfect gift. Another mouse, Yeah,

1158
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: another chance. They've all ten flights have been purchased. They

1159
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: don't know what they're going into. Here we have someone

1160
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 3: who was obviously a DJ at some point is still

1161
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: trying to be despite going back to college.

1162
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: Always said that forty year olds make the best DJs.

1163
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 4: They really forty year olds in Colorado.

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: Well, now I'm thinking he's using these hip twenty somethings

1165
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: as kind of a music suggestion. He's a leech. Yeah,

1166
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: he's like, he's emailing, hey, have you heard any good

1167
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: songs recently? Because he can't keep up with whatever's happening,

1168
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: and so then they send them the suggestions. He uses

1169
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: that money to pay to play his sets at various

1170
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: clubs around.

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01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 4: Look, he's getting a master's in finance. This is a

1172
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: man who's basically addicted to online gambling. This is a

1173
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 4: man who's in deep debt. Any gift you give him,

1174
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: he's gonna turn it to I mean, he's going to

1175
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: ask for more and to give you a sob story

1176
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: when you get there.

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: I think, just be prepared. And I mean, now that

1178
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: we're just saying it, I think, Adrina, the gift here

1179
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: is cancel those flights, just let mail. You've got to

1180
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: let this person off the hook, or let him let

1181
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: you off the hook, more like it, because he is

1182
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: this is a pattern of behavior that will not stop

1183
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: until you stop it. You and your friends have been manipulated,

1184
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: You've been used. You're still paying the debt on that mansion.

1185
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: Send him a.

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: Text that says congrats, and so it has that sort

1187
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: of effect.

1188
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: It has like that confetti. You got the animated effect.

1189
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: But he's forty. It's gonna be like he saw that

1190
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: French movie with the train. He does not understand it.

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna be squealing like an ape who saw a

1192
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: space shuttle.

1193
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: And that's that's the gift. I love it, Adrina. Consider

1194
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: your problem solved. I don't want to hear about it again.

1195
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to emailed you. Forty times she's called.

1196
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: I've gotten at least two physical letters from her. And

1197
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: the fact that you're trying to kind of draw me

1198
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: into this mail thing. I cannot be the bridge between

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: you and mail anymore. Take care of your own problems, Jeff,

1200
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: this is the end of the podcast. I'm I've got,

1201
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, for my soccer team now, eight pouches that

1202
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: I can two kids are probably gonna miss out on

1203
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: a drink. You're gonna have a dehydrated nine year old

1204
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: couple of those and their parents can deal with that.

1205
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: But or maybe I'll just drink all these drinks at

1206
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 3: home and try to, as we said, get back into

1207
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 3: child Absolutely, we visit those innocent days. As I've said,

1208
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: I have been trying to get back into the closet

1209
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: and so this might be a step towards that, getting

1210
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: back into that period when I was you know, deep abject,

1211
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: and then I have the Da Vinci code to keep

1212
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: me company, kind of like the priest or pope who

1213
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: was listening to this very audio set the way.

1214
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 4: You said, like, I didn't know that, Like you know,

1215
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: chapters were a page long. That must be so annoying

1216
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: as an audio broke like every like every thirty seconds

1217
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 4: you hear a twelve.

1218
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: I had a hard reset. Oh, I'm so excited about

1219
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: all of this, and thank you for being here.

1220
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: Oh Bridget, you are the funniest person that I know.

1221
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: And God, it's a delight to be on here and

1222
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: to see the journey you've been on. It's only going

1223
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 4: to be up from here taking rush Limba's throne.

1224
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: Listener, this is the end of the podcast as usual.

1225
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm kind of releasing you back into the wild, throwing

1226
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: the fishback into the lake. Whatever analogy suits you best.

1227
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: I want you to take care of yourself for the

1228
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: next week. I can't always be there for you, and

1229
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: we'll talk again soon. Oh my love, I said. No

1230
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered

1231
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 3: by our dear friend Anna Lise Nelson and the theme

1232
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

1233
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, that's

1234
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1235
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen

1236
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me.

1237
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: And why not leave a review while you're there. It's

1238
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: really the least you could do, considering everything I do

1239
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show,

1240
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 3: go to mideral dot com slash ads.

1241
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: And I invited you here.

1242
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: Thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guess

1243
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And

1244
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough, and I

1245
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: already had too much stuff.

1246
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: So how do you dan to surbey mean