Speaker 1: No Willian.
Speaker 2: Doctor, welcome back. Top of the week. Who's excited? Man,
Speaker 2: ready to ready to tackle tackle the week?
Speaker 3: So excited. It's gonna be a great week. Great week, Rory,
Speaker 3: gotta set the tone. See Mondays that small love Mondays.
Speaker 3: You set the tone. Yeah, set the tone for the
Speaker 3: week on Mondays. I feel that.
Speaker 2: And uh, we actually have an event on Saturday. Yes,
Speaker 2: we do a week this good week, great week. Do
Speaker 2: you want do you want to plug it? I'm always
Speaker 2: bad at plugging things.
Speaker 1: Oh listen, let me let me help you. We're doing
Speaker 1: a pop up, Rory.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're popping up at Cafe cole Mada this Saturday in.
Speaker 1: The city of New York City.
Speaker 3: We have some merch that will be selling that cafekl Mada,
Speaker 3: and we will be having exclusive drinks that we will create,
Speaker 3: Yes for ourselves. I'll have a drink and you'll have
Speaker 3: a drink at the people in New York City or
Speaker 3: surrounding area. If you want to come out, come kick
Speaker 3: with us for a few whiles at Cafe Cooled Mata.
Speaker 2: Okay, do I need to submit my recipe or are
Speaker 2: they going to handle my drink?
Speaker 1: No? You can submit?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, you can submit. We just gotta make it.
Speaker 3: Don't make it nothing too crazy though.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to run into a non alcoholic thing.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm the cafe.
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to think of what my I just
Speaker 2: think of a flat white would just be a funny, ironic.
Speaker 3: Flat white because I'm definitely a flat white, a flat
Speaker 3: white drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to run into like a curb
Speaker 2: your enthusiasm moment. Remember when Larry went to the sandwich
Speaker 2: shop and they named the sandwich after him and it
Speaker 2: was like three different types of fish and cream cheese
Speaker 2: and try to switch the sandwich like, I don't, I
Speaker 2: didn't improve.
Speaker 1: Just give me a turkey sandwich. Yeah, keep it, let's
Speaker 1: keep it simple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, flat white, maybe some ginger in there or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I mix it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I still can't get a babysitter, so it may be,
Speaker 2: uh maybe the revealed party of Amara.
Speaker 1: The revealed party again, you tried.
Speaker 2: To get a babysitters. It's everyone is out of town
Speaker 2: for some reason.
Speaker 1: This weekend was going on this weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just everyone in my family is not available,
Speaker 2: but it really Amara might be there serving drinks. It's
Speaker 2: about time she got a job because her daycares. It
Speaker 2: is really kicking my ass right now, to the point
Speaker 2: that I looked at the jay Z tickets and nah
Speaker 2: my kid gotta eat.
Speaker 1: Which listen, I thought about it. I made the right decision.
Speaker 2: But don't think that I was about to pull that
Speaker 2: trigger and be like, I mean, she could do Dino
Speaker 2: nuggets for a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why not? But it stow them in the
Speaker 1: hum and keep it simple. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, check us out this week and this Saturday of
Speaker 3: this is the twenty eighth, right eighth, Yes.
Speaker 1: March twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: Cafe Comada, two eighty six Broome Street here in New
Speaker 3: York City.
Speaker 1: Come check us out. We'll be there.
Speaker 3: We have merch on sale. Yeah, I mean, have some music,
Speaker 3: some drinks and just kick it with the people for
Speaker 3: a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Should we should we test test out Ryan skills? On
Speaker 2: Ryan's resume, he said.
Speaker 1: I don't know Ryan.
Speaker 3: Ryan played something. What was that he played last week?
Speaker 3: He didn't even have a he didn't even have a
Speaker 3: hip hop step. He got into like some some alternative
Speaker 3: he's been working on the hip hop. We're not gonna
Speaker 3: be the Guinea Pigs for the hip hop set. We
Speaker 3: can't do that. Oh my gosh, I'm scared already.
Speaker 1: Man. Hip hop is to him with Neil Souls to
Speaker 1: Jack like he just discovered it. We're not doing that ship.
Speaker 1: We're not. And it's not because he's from the Bay.
Speaker 1: So it's gotta be.
Speaker 3: Like Santa Mona because the name of his like stet like.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a set name. You need to be
Speaker 1: like Pelican Bay or some ship like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, but we'll see what. We'll see what Ryan
Speaker 3: has for us, either Alcatraz, Yeah.
Speaker 1: DJ.
Speaker 3: Djbay something like that. You know, what's your what's your
Speaker 3: DJ name?
Speaker 1: Ryan? Oh god, yeah, it's just his name. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: never trust the DJ wh is just their name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be you gotta be DJ Golden Gate
Speaker 2: or something, DJ DJ Easy Way Out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually because that's too dark. I'm sorry, but nive
Speaker 1: percentage that bridge it in particular. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Either way, it's gonna be great. Men Catholic Comada this Saturday,
Speaker 3: March twenty eight to eighty six Broome Street.
Speaker 2: Come check us out, yep, and we are back sponsored
Speaker 2: by Boost. I don't know if you've noticed within the
Speaker 2: first four minutes. But Maul and I have been batting
Speaker 2: a thousand in our Demeris predictions and she's not here.
Speaker 3: Y'all don't listen to me enough, Like this is my
Speaker 3: problem with everybody in this room, even though it's only
Speaker 3: four of us in here, y'all don't listen to me.
Speaker 3: I told y'all on last week, I said, there's no
Speaker 3: way Demaris is coming in here on Monday. Everybody comes
Speaker 3: l nah, she'll be here. Damash is like, what, No,
Speaker 3: I'll be here. I'm like, Damaris, No, he leaves Houston
Speaker 3: the day they say they're going to leave was always
Speaker 3: something that pushes back low and behold planes crash, ice
Speaker 3: agents are now TSA agents. Yeah, yeah, whole kind of
Speaker 3: thing's going anything. But Demara's making it here with us today, and.
Speaker 2: It's it's what's quite annoying about the entire thing is
Speaker 2: condolence is to to the people that passed in the
Speaker 2: Yes accent this morning at at Loguardia, that that is
Speaker 2: is very, very upsetting that a minor mistake could lead
Speaker 2: to that. I just feel like Demarus wasn't gonna make
Speaker 2: it anyways, and finally found like a teflon excuse that
Speaker 2: we can't say anything to her because that didn't, in
Speaker 2: fact happen in the airport a Newark airport called on fire.
Speaker 2: Some shit, it's a mess. Yeah, but I think either way,
Speaker 2: she wasn't making that flight.
Speaker 1: No, she wasn't gonna be it.
Speaker 2: She saw that cancelation was like fuck yeah, after people pay,
Speaker 2: that just added to it.
Speaker 1: That just added to the cancelation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, I wasn't her close friends over
Speaker 2: the weekend she permanent removed you right, No, I was there. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait for her to come back, but I
Speaker 2: think we can implement the Baby D challenge. I'd like
Speaker 2: to give you guys more details, but it'd be way
Speaker 2: more fun when Demarus is actually here. If you thought
Speaker 2: planking was a craze, wait till the Baby D Challenge
Speaker 2: hits the streets.
Speaker 1: I already Amara already did at the playground. What's the
Speaker 1: BABYD challenge? Just laying down? When she was laying down
Speaker 1: on it, laying down like scare places and you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be laying like the jumpman symbol, like she was a
Speaker 1: spread out like that.
Speaker 3: I thought she was doing yoga. Yeah, because it was
Speaker 3: a yoga mat. She was laying on a yoga mat.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, how flip flops were right there?
Speaker 3: So I'll just you know, I thought she was doing
Speaker 3: a little downward dog you know.
Speaker 1: Mean I hear you. I already had.
Speaker 2: I already had Amara get started on the Baby D Challenge,
Speaker 2: which I can't wait to pitch this to her whenever
Speaker 2: she does finally come back. But yeah, I had, I
Speaker 2: Hadamara laying on playground equipment in the same way Baby
Speaker 2: D was so down. But I mean, should we should
Speaker 2: we call her? I feel like she probably just went
Speaker 2: to another day party or.
Speaker 1: She's currently trying to get back to New York. I
Speaker 1: don't believe her. We're gonna FaceTime audio. We'll do audio, okay,
Speaker 1: because who knows where she is?
Speaker 3: And I'm sure she's But that's why I wanted to FaceTime, Like, Yo,
Speaker 3: turn your phone around, show me that you're at the airport.
Speaker 1: Let's see if she even answers hello, Yo, Yeah, where
Speaker 1: are you at the airport?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well we record.
Speaker 2: Today, We record today, like this is recording.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. So you're at like Laguardian, should
Speaker 1: should we wait? Laguardian burned down or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: LaGuardia burned it down. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: So that means you're at JFK when you say you're
Speaker 2: at the airport, so like you'll be here like what
Speaker 2: like forty five hours?
Speaker 1: We can wait or I can't leave?
Speaker 4: Meet them all now right now for real. My bracket
Speaker 4: fucked up. I'm in this airport for three hours.
Speaker 1: My bracket up. I want you had Syracuse winning and
Speaker 1: they wasn't even talking. Who has Syracuse? You know what? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: are you feeling on you? All right? You're scared. I'm
Speaker 1: scared of what I don't know? Man? Is it Ice
Speaker 1: agents at T s A?
Speaker 4: There are? But I think I'm American?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you want to bus You're good?
Speaker 4: No, but they're they're all over the place and they
Speaker 4: ain't playing too And anybody who looked like they shouldn't
Speaker 4: be flying like they're around they're doing two jobs at once.
Speaker 3: That ass Yes, this is the America I voted for,
Speaker 3: literally not.
Speaker 1: Right now, Like this ship is no fucking game. I
Speaker 1: feel so bad for these people.
Speaker 2: Just something about Ice catching an illegal immigrants going through like.
Speaker 1: Clear that's funny to me. I shouldn't like laugh at that.
Speaker 2: But just the thought that you could be an illegal
Speaker 2: alien and also have clear and pre check is fucking funny.
Speaker 1: It is fucking insane.
Speaker 4: Bro. Like when that text us just came through that
Speaker 4: my flight got cancel when I was in the strip club,
Speaker 4: I just took a shot. But fuck it, we're here now.
Speaker 1: We're here now.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm shocked that because I think you
Speaker 2: said your flights tomorrow night, I would have just given up.
Speaker 1: I would have given up and went back to strip club.
Speaker 4: No, because I know we have to we're supposed to
Speaker 4: be recording tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We already moved that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it aware to the regular schedule because you're not
Speaker 2: gonna be here. We were doing that for you.
Speaker 1: I know I will be here. I'll be here. I
Speaker 1: land tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh you land tonight? Yeah, I thought your flight was
Speaker 3: tomorrow six thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I moved.
Speaker 4: It because apparently LaGuardia is opening up at two pm today.
Speaker 1: I want to go home, all right, Can you tell us?
Speaker 1: I was in your close friends over the weekend, So
Speaker 1: it was Jamal, A lot of ass, A lot of ass.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of ass.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be too horny on this pod,
Speaker 2: but I did see a lot of good a lot
Speaker 2: of good ariola ratio.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: Once someone had a see through shared on it, I
Speaker 2: was like, I would expect a bigger ariolas.
Speaker 1: Are you okay? No, So tell us about breakers and bottles,
Speaker 1: give us a play to play. The bottle was amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of them selling twenty five hundred dollars
Speaker 4: at a city that is not yours for a party
Speaker 4: you've only done once before.
Speaker 1: Very very proud of all of us and my gang.
Speaker 1: We had a ball.
Speaker 4: It was amazing, went off without a hite.
Speaker 1: It was fun's early. Are you comfortable with me implementing
Speaker 1: the baby d challenge to the world? Oh shut up?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Why not? Are you comfortable with that? Is it perfectly
Speaker 1: fine with it? Can that be the artwork for this episode?
Speaker 1: Of you laying on the roof? Sure?
Speaker 4: Why not be fodder for this podcast once again?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Have a ball? Did you end up on that roof?
Speaker 4: I went up there to talk on the phone and
Speaker 4: then I've got sleepy, so I lay there and.
Speaker 1: No one just no one woke me up. They just
Speaker 1: left me there.
Speaker 4: They took videos, obviously, but they left me there.
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, yeah, I figured you want to see
Speaker 1: the sunrise. I went to the roof to talk on
Speaker 1: the phone.
Speaker 4: Actually beautiful.
Speaker 1: I had a ball.
Speaker 4: Y'all should have came, y'all are losers.
Speaker 1: We don't, we don't be trapped. Yeah, I'm cool.
Speaker 4: Then they got podcasts studios here, a bunch of the
Speaker 4: niggas that don't shut up.
Speaker 1: Well, we wish you the best of mars.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. I'm really sad that I can't be
Speaker 4: at work.
Speaker 1: I really really tried hard to get the works. I
Speaker 1: hear you well, like I.
Speaker 4: Was going to ask you how to push for recording today,
Speaker 4: like for it to be later, but I didn't. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're not from that ATMO the podcast, so definitely not.
Speaker 2: I figured we we wish you safe travels, enjoy the airport,
Speaker 2: and maybe we'll see you next week.
Speaker 4: If you hey, if anybody listen to anybody out there
Speaker 4: can hear me. If you don't have to fucking fly
Speaker 4: for a funeral, actually a funeral, they dead already. If
Speaker 4: you don't have to fly, so like the birth of
Speaker 4: a baby or something, do not fucking fly, bro. I
Speaker 4: was in this airport for two and a half hours
Speaker 4: in line, do not fly.
Speaker 1: She let people know I like the PSA.
Speaker 2: And before I let you go, I just want to
Speaker 2: let you know there is no J Cole Protectors in
Speaker 2: the room today.
Speaker 1: So do with that information, which what you will?
Speaker 2: That this could go off the rails because there's nobody
Speaker 2: here from Dreamville or what a cold stands called.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, you're pretty true, thank you?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 1: All right, man, peace, I don't buy none of that.
Speaker 3: I don't buy that ps A from ts An't.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. She's she's the hotel lobby hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Nobody tells you you're pretty at the airport on that's
Speaker 3: somebody that works at the hotel telling.
Speaker 2: You you're still. At the Strip Club Houston. They do
Speaker 2: brunch there on Monday mornings. Some people work out of there.
Speaker 2: They bring their laptops. It's like Starbucks. Hey, we told
Speaker 2: them that she wasn't coming.
Speaker 1: I can tell you do we start with of course
Speaker 1: we do. I'm joking, man, you think I'm turned down.
Speaker 1: I'm not nervous. What you're nervous for. I'm just nervous.
Speaker 2: Why these are just touchy subjects and trying times and
Speaker 2: we don't is a touchy subject. Yes okay, and we
Speaker 2: don't have demeris he or the real things back from
Speaker 2: someone that is such a J Cole protector, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm a I'm a J Cole supporter.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call myself a protector as well, but I'm
Speaker 1: a supporter, so am I.
Speaker 2: I want to start by saying, shout out to Nedeska.
Speaker 2: I know it's not the first time that she's interviewed Cole,
Speaker 2: but interviewing someone that is now a legend and at
Speaker 2: goat status at this point in their career is like
Speaker 2: journalism checklist, bucket list ship. You got to interview J
Speaker 2: Cole after his alleged last album double disc in his
Speaker 2: childhood home amazing to Deska, you're smoking this year love
Speaker 2: the Baby team interview as well. If Jeska's not fucking
Speaker 2: number three on the Complex list this year, I don't
Speaker 2: really know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: With that said, What did you think? Let me say that?
Speaker 3: Uh no, listen, listen because I respect I respect Cole.
Speaker 3: Because you know, people, for whatever reason they feel like
Speaker 3: I hate call I don't. I keep saying I don't
Speaker 3: hate Cole. I hate what he did, but I don't
Speaker 3: hate Cole. But I respect him for sitting down with
Speaker 3: Adeska and having a conversation and things like that.
Speaker 1: I do think that.
Speaker 3: That was a bit safe for him, though, to sit
Speaker 3: down with Adeska. I don't think she challenged him a
Speaker 3: lot on you know, things he was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think she pushed back a lot. Uh.
Speaker 3: It was more so like just a cool calm, which
Speaker 3: is which is a space for that too. But I
Speaker 3: think coming off of everything that happened, and this being
Speaker 3: the first time Cole spoke, I think it would have
Speaker 3: been better for him to sit down with somebody that
Speaker 3: was going to challenge him a little bit more on
Speaker 3: his responses to things. A lot of the things that
Speaker 3: he was saying, you know, understood. I don't believe that
Speaker 3: he had that type of conversation with himself when he
Speaker 3: was talking from both perspectives of what he was thinking,
Speaker 3: what he was saying to himself, I don't believe none
Speaker 3: of that. I think a lot of that was things
Speaker 3: that he probably just made up on the spot, or
Speaker 3: just made up on the way there.
Speaker 1: I don't really, yeah, I don't. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: that's unfair to just assume that of somebody like I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I don't believe was like a known fucking liar.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Anne on it.
Speaker 3: I just think that he had to make something up
Speaker 3: to make it sound more enticing than what it was like.
Speaker 3: I think that it was like, Okay.
Speaker 1: Explain more what parts of what he said? With that
Speaker 1: back and forth, did you feel like we're performative?
Speaker 3: I just don't think that, you know, before the apology
Speaker 3: all of that, I don't think that he had this
Speaker 3: big talk back and forth.
Speaker 1: With the self.
Speaker 3: I just think that he had a conversation with Kendrick
Speaker 3: and that's, you know, somebody he deems as a friend,
Speaker 3: and then he just was like all right through the conversation.
Speaker 3: He probably told Kendrick that he was gonna apologize publicly
Speaker 3: for what he said in his record, and I think
Speaker 3: that's it. I don't think that he battled with himself
Speaker 3: back and forth with emotions and things like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that deep. I truly don't
Speaker 1: think it was that deep for him. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a conversation time between my delete later and Dreamville Fest.
Speaker 2: I can see him going back and forth in that
Speaker 2: small amount of time, especially after having conversation with Kendrick
Speaker 2: if that is indeed true. Yeah, I can see him
Speaker 2: pacing in his trailer before Dreamville Fest thinking about that
Speaker 2: entire thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, he said he only spoke to his wife
Speaker 2: about it, no one else. Yeah, I can see you battling,
Speaker 2: like is am I making the right fucking choice. I
Speaker 2: do believe he went back and forth a lot and
Speaker 2: probably had some The way we joke based off the
Speaker 2: Drake line coles losing sleep, it's not me.
Speaker 1: I believe that he was. I really do believe that
Speaker 1: he was going back and forth and felt fucked up
Speaker 1: about Do.
Speaker 3: You think that this interview helps his perception or hurts it?
Speaker 3: Neither and I neither. I also, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: it does good, good or bad. In this situation where
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you pushback is where you're saying
Speaker 3: Nadeska didn't give pushback.
Speaker 1: I may agree with you.
Speaker 2: If we now know that Cole isn't doing the Cameron interview,
Speaker 2: and while we're recording this, it has not come out yet,
Speaker 2: only clips have, but we know Tuesday night, ten pm
Speaker 2: there will be a Cameron and Jake Cole interview, and
Speaker 2: we've already seen clips where Cam was maybe asking some
Speaker 2: of the questions that we wanted to hear. As in
Speaker 2: regards to the Beef, I don't think going into Nadeska
Speaker 2: was safe. I just think from an artist's perspective, you
Speaker 2: just put out a double disc and I'd rather go
Speaker 2: sit with a journalist that's going to ask me questions
Speaker 2: about the music and the album first. I myself included
Speaker 2: halfway through it, I had that on my brain too,
Speaker 2: of like when are we going to get to all
Speaker 2: the shit we want to know about the battle? But
Speaker 2: to me, that's super unfair to have an artist want
Speaker 2: to go and do an interview right away that's going
Speaker 2: to be about some of the more messy stuff after
Speaker 2: you just put out fucking like thirty records, like including
Speaker 2: your your mixtape.
Speaker 1: But even today a lot I think I certainly think
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: As far as the journey of it, I think I
Speaker 2: think the Deska asked the right questions for what the
Speaker 2: music was and what the purpose of that interview was. Like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put her in the same category where you're
Speaker 2: just calling someone the genius their entire interview. I think
Speaker 2: she asked poignant questions that j Cole fans want to hear,
Speaker 2: and I think that's missing now within journalism media, not
Speaker 2: just hip hop, because dog go to political news.
Speaker 1: It's even worse.
Speaker 2: I think for the music fans, people wanted to hear
Speaker 2: Cole's process of that that project.
Speaker 1: I think we're owed that as music nerds. Now, if
Speaker 1: he didn't do.
Speaker 2: The Cam shit, I'd probably have some of the more
Speaker 2: sentiments of you that was safe. Don't act like we
Speaker 2: don't need answers as fans about that other shit.
Speaker 1: I think he's doing the balance.
Speaker 2: Let me talk about my album Win the Deska in
Speaker 2: a safe place and let me go do the bullshit
Speaker 2: with Cam, and I mean bullshit in a good way.
Speaker 2: That one's a real music journalist. One is an incredible
Speaker 2: media personality and a legendary rapper. I'll go talk about
Speaker 2: the battle stuff with him. Cam's funny, Cam's messy. That'll
Speaker 2: be the place where it's everyone can't say, oh, this
Speaker 2: is safe, because Cam's never going to be safe.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I was speaking just to the Desk interview.
Speaker 3: That it was that was safe, that choice was safe.
Speaker 3: Now obviously we haven't heard the Cam interview yet, and
Speaker 3: you know it's safe to assume that Cam may ask
Speaker 3: more questions from a rapper's perspective and from a battle perspective,
Speaker 3: Cam being somebody that has battled and been in battles himself,
Speaker 3: so we may get a little more details and in
Speaker 3: depth there. But yeah, I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 3: that Cole, you know, obviously, to me, I do feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, things that he was saying in the desk interview,
Speaker 3: I do feel like it was a lot of things
Speaker 3: that he had to kind of just create because he
Speaker 3: had to make it more interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think that there was much thought about anything.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think he had a conversation with
Speaker 3: Kendrick and I think they had said whatever they said,
Speaker 3: and he came out of that saying, well, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go on stage and apologize and there's not going
Speaker 3: to be no more shots from my side coming at
Speaker 3: you and things like.
Speaker 1: I think it was really that simple.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was this you know, pacing back
Speaker 3: and forth with emotions and this that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that deep.
Speaker 3: I think because again he responded with with Mike delete
Speaker 3: later on seven minute.
Speaker 2: Drill, which started to interrupt you. I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure Cole fans, can you please give mal his flowers?
Speaker 2: Because everything y'all killed him for. Cole admitted in that
Speaker 2: interview about having to change the entire project. He said,
Speaker 2: MI delete later was already slated for when it was
Speaker 2: going to come out. They just added seven minute drill.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to come out with dream Thought. And
Speaker 2: then eight weeks later we were putting out The fall
Speaker 2: Off and you came in here and said, I think
Speaker 2: he has to redo the whole album now, And that's
Speaker 2: exactly what Cole said.
Speaker 1: He said, it was slated to go eight weeks later.
Speaker 1: I had to redo it.
Speaker 3: But I don't know how people even thought that that
Speaker 3: wasn't like you, anybody, any artist that was in that moment,
Speaker 3: Kendrick Drake and Cole, anything that they had planned musically.
Speaker 3: Of course it has to change after that, Like everything
Speaker 3: changes after that moment. So you know, people killing me.
Speaker 3: It's like again, people react off you know, their emotions
Speaker 3: and their support of the artists that they love, which
Speaker 3: is cool.
Speaker 1: I support Cole.
Speaker 3: I just don't react mostly when it comes to certain
Speaker 3: things that I think are common sense, Like yes, he
Speaker 3: would have to make changes to his schedule, to his
Speaker 3: plans to his music coming off of that moment. I
Speaker 3: thought that that was obvious. But again, you know, if
Speaker 3: I say something to shut the fuck up, mall, you
Speaker 3: don't know what you told about cool, I'll shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up. But then when the artist himself says that
Speaker 3: that's what happened, don't give me no flowers. I don't
Speaker 3: want no flowers. But y'all just know that I'm correct
Speaker 3: in what I was saying. Yes, Cole had to adjust
Speaker 3: and he had to pivot. He had to call it
Speaker 3: Audible Music League. Yeah, because everything in that moment changed.
Speaker 3: Songs that he had with certain artists he of course
Speaker 3: knew now he no longer has those records. It wasn't
Speaker 3: even a double disc, no, no, so, but it was
Speaker 3: songs that he had, you know, with Kendrick, with with
Speaker 3: with Drake that obviously he wouldn't have, he wouldn't get
Speaker 3: cleared for the album. So now things you have to
Speaker 3: fill those moments, fill those gaps that are now there
Speaker 3: that you thought were filled. So, yes, you have to
Speaker 3: make changes, But I mean, I'm just you know, it's
Speaker 3: cool to see Cole, you know, sitting down and just
Speaker 3: talking and kicking it. And again I know, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot happened in twenty twenty four. You know, things
Speaker 3: were said, and you know, somehow the Internet turned it
Speaker 3: into this malls J Cole hater and this stuff. I
Speaker 3: don't hate J Carr. I don't know J Cole to
Speaker 3: hate him. I just hate the way he handled a
Speaker 3: rap battle, that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean I think you should go back to
Speaker 2: the interview because, I mean, the Deska is an actual journalist.
Speaker 2: He's not like a Neanderthal with a mir phone like me.
Speaker 2: Like she did an actual proper interview that people used
Speaker 2: to do with artists when we were looking for music
Speaker 2: questions and where you're at in your life questions instead
Speaker 2: of the gospel shit. So again, I think she did
Speaker 2: an incredible job with it, the same way she did
Speaker 2: with a Keem interview. I'm excited to see the Cam interview.
Speaker 2: I mean there's one clip out where Cam asked the
Speaker 2: question we all wanted to know, like what's your relationship
Speaker 2: with him, which Neideska did ask, by the way, but
Speaker 2: Cole kind of, I say, tiptoed around it. He just
Speaker 2: didn't give a full answer the way he did with
Speaker 2: Cam in this clip where he said, you know, they
Speaker 2: spoke around that time but haven't since, and he would
Speaker 2: love to text them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again him you know, Cam asking him with
Speaker 3: his relationship with Kendrick and Drake today, you know, andically
Speaker 3: this is we just told him from the clip.
Speaker 1: We haven't We were recording this on Monday.
Speaker 3: The episode with him and Cam doesn't come out until Tuesday.
Speaker 3: But I hope he really gives gets more in debt
Speaker 3: with that though, because I said it a couple a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago, whatever
Speaker 3: that I feel like he has to address why he
Speaker 3: hasn't spoken to Drake since all of that happened. And
Speaker 3: and and you know, people are like, oh ma, all
Speaker 3: you two invested, and you know they talk all y'all
Speaker 3: still talking about the battle. Well, the people that was
Speaker 3: in the battle are still talking about the battles. So
Speaker 3: you know, this is what people kill us for talking
Speaker 3: about this, but the people involved well and obviously well Cole,
Speaker 3: he's still talking about this is his first time speaking
Speaker 3: about it. Yes, we have to speak about it, but
Speaker 3: that is something that I feel like, like how you
Speaker 3: said about the music and us hearing about that process,
Speaker 3: I do feel like as fans of all of these
Speaker 3: guys and and and you know, consumers of hip hop,
Speaker 3: and then you know, consuming the moment of one of
Speaker 3: the biggest battles ever. I do feel like we need
Speaker 3: to know why Cole has not spoke to Drake. He
Speaker 3: said in this clip, he'd be wanting to text and
Speaker 3: all of that, So then why not do that? Like
Speaker 3: I don't even understand that. Like that's like when somebody
Speaker 3: know they did something fun up to you and then
Speaker 3: they know how you fill up a type of way
Speaker 3: and then they'd be like, damn, I want to hoigher
Speaker 3: at him, but okay, shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Holler at him. So just because I know.
Speaker 2: How the timeline works and people don't actually listen to words,
Speaker 2: They just react to their own thoughts and how they
Speaker 2: interpret things.
Speaker 1: It was kind of.
Speaker 2: It was vague when Cole says, we've spoken after everything,
Speaker 2: but it it's not been much communication.
Speaker 1: Is he talking about.
Speaker 3: Cole has not spoken to Drake since not like Us
Speaker 3: came since before not Like Thus came out.
Speaker 2: Okay, because he's saying in this clip, I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: if he was saying after the Dreamville Fest incident or
Speaker 2: after the battle. When he said he's spoken to both
Speaker 2: of them, but it hasn't been much.
Speaker 3: I don't you're asking me, I'm only answering from answer
Speaker 3: from what I know.
Speaker 1: I don't know a thing. I'm as I know how
Speaker 1: the internet works. I wanted to be extremely clear. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let me said.
Speaker 2: In his camera and clip, he is saying that they spoke.
Speaker 2: I don't know what after everything means. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it means dreamvill Fest. I don't know Eve he's
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know if it means after not
Speaker 2: like us. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me tell you from what I know.
Speaker 3: Okay, Cole has not spoken to Drake since before Dreamfest. Okay,
Speaker 3: from what I know, from what you know, gotcha, right,
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. From what I know, he has
Speaker 3: not spoken to him now, whether he shot a text
Speaker 3: after that and the text went unresponded, got you.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I know he hasn't spoken to Drake since before he apologized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which Drake was.
Speaker 3: Slated to go to Dreamfest and perform things like that
Speaker 3: fresh off a tour. First person Shooter was number one, this, that,
Speaker 3: and the third. Obviously we can't perform that record anymore.
Speaker 1: Gonna be a moment, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: We can't perform the record. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because it's like what's going on? Like you're saying Big
Speaker 3: three in the record, and this that and the third
Speaker 3: you're naming him in the record. So things obviously things change.
Speaker 3: But my thing is cool. You know that Drake feels
Speaker 3: a way right, you know, Kendrick Fields a way. You
Speaker 3: spoke to Kendrick, but why not? And I don't know
Speaker 3: if he spoke to Kendrick. I mean he has, He's
Speaker 3: been in studios with TDE affiliates and things like that
Speaker 3: since post beef, so I don't know if he's I
Speaker 3: don't know about that side. I'm speaking to his not
Speaker 3: speaking to Drake. And again, I just feel like, and
Speaker 3: we haven't seen this interview and maybe he gets more
Speaker 3: in depth.
Speaker 1: Aside from this clip that we saw.
Speaker 3: I just feel like we need to really know why
Speaker 3: haven't you spoken to because if I do something like that, Rory,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it my business to get in front
Speaker 3: of you and have a conversation because we have a
Speaker 3: real relationship. And if I do something like that and
Speaker 3: I handle something I know that you look slighted or
Speaker 3: you feel away, and I shoot you a text and
Speaker 3: you not responding. I'm gonna do whatever I need to
Speaker 3: do to make sure that me and you are in
Speaker 3: the same room and we have a conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I mean maybe speaks to the rumor that
Speaker 2: Future flew to go meet with Drake so they could
Speaker 2: solve their differences with everything that was going going on.
Speaker 2: I hear you on that, but I mean even with
Speaker 2: Cole was saying in this and again we're just speculating
Speaker 2: because it's a interview way more constant, you.
Speaker 1: Get way more in depth. Yeah, we don't. I mean
Speaker 1: he is saying that, like I do feel him to
Speaker 1: some degree, like he made a decision for himself that
Speaker 1: he said in the desk interview.
Speaker 2: He feels even better about today. It brought more peace
Speaker 2: to his life. Unfortunately that may have slighted one of
Speaker 2: his his friends may feel a way. But he's saying
Speaker 2: like he doesn't know. I see that perspective of like
Speaker 2: I don't want to overstep, like you're not fucking with me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be blowing your phone up of
Speaker 2: like nah, like it's this doing this is an overkill.
Speaker 1: I hear you. I do what you say.
Speaker 2: But I can definitely see the perspective of like, I
Speaker 2: don't really know where I stand with you anymore, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to like make it worse by trying
Speaker 2: to overly communicate with you at this regard.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I get that. But again, even in
Speaker 3: that right and again we don't we don't. We didnt
Speaker 3: see the whole interview, So he may very well end
Speaker 3: up doing that getting into debt. But you know, even
Speaker 3: in that moment, say like you listen, man, you know
Speaker 3: I reached out. He hasn't responded, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I would love to have a conversation with him
Speaker 3: that he says, I be wanting to shoot off a tech.
Speaker 2: But he also said they've spoken after everything, whatever that
Speaker 2: means the direct quote, like we've spoken after everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, again, from what I know, I know, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just from what I know.
Speaker 3: You know, conversations that I've had with certain people that
Speaker 3: you know are existing in the world with us, Yes,
Speaker 3: they have not so certain people that I certain people
Speaker 3: that I've had conversations with that are existing in the
Speaker 3: world with us, that may know a thing or two
Speaker 3: about this music on this rocket. Yeah, I mean you know, no,
Speaker 3: there hasn't been no communication, there hasn't been no conversation.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I think I kind of understand.
Speaker 3: I think that that's one of those things where you
Speaker 3: know you did something fucked up and wrong to your friend.
Speaker 3: And and obviously, which is the obvious thing to me,
Speaker 3: Cole is non confrontational. So sometimes you have to be
Speaker 3: confrontational with your friends when you do something fucked up,
Speaker 3: you have to face that confrontation. You have to face
Speaker 3: that phone call of your friends saying, Yo, that's fucked up, bro,
Speaker 3: you did me dirty da da da da da whatever
Speaker 3: it is like. And and Cole is non conversation. We
Speaker 3: know that about Jay Cole. Now, he's a non conversational guy.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want that
Speaker 3: to come off like a slight to Ja Cole. I'm
Speaker 3: non confrontational. It's things that I avoid and things like that.
Speaker 3: So I understand that I wouldn't avoid no rap battle
Speaker 3: if I had Ja Cole's skill if I had his
Speaker 3: skill set.
Speaker 1: I'm not avoiding no rat battle. I want it with everybody.
Speaker 3: But I can understand that being his real demeanor of
Speaker 3: him just being a non confrontational guy. But when you
Speaker 3: do things to your friends that you know, hurt your
Speaker 3: friends or make your friends kind of feel slighted, you
Speaker 3: gotta face that confrontation.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do to be like Yo, Bro,
Speaker 3: I fucked up. You know, let's talk, let's kick it out,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever, however you gotta go about, you know,
Speaker 3: mending that relationship with your friends, with your brothers or whatever.
Speaker 3: You gotta. You gotta do that. And you know, I
Speaker 3: get it. I get the non confronational part, but you
Speaker 3: got to put that shit aside a boy and face
Speaker 3: and face to face the fire. And that's what I
Speaker 3: feel like Cole has been avoiding. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: he know he fucked up, and it's just like, all,
Speaker 3: he ain't fucking with me, fucking Let me just continue
Speaker 3: to make music and let me continue to just live
Speaker 3: my life and maybe one day we'll you know, fix
Speaker 3: it and things like that.
Speaker 1: But then you look up in a year two years
Speaker 1: past and.
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, you went two years, but I'll speaking
Speaker 3: to your friend and it's like over something that you
Speaker 3: know was really just a moment like it's not even
Speaker 3: something that was like a lifelong thing, like it was
Speaker 3: just a moment. You handled it in a way that
Speaker 3: your friend probably feel like, damn, bro, you kind of
Speaker 3: just all but fix the situation.
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Speaker 2: I guess I'd like to hear Drake's perspective on why
Speaker 2: he specifically feels a way about that entire thing, because
Speaker 2: I can't find a reason why Kendrick and Cole wouldn't
Speaker 2: speak like he apologized for dissing him back, which whatever,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't see why Kendrick would have any issue
Speaker 2: with Cold and not just be friends again, Like all.
Speaker 1: Right, let's take this over. Let's take this over. Let's
Speaker 1: take this over.
Speaker 3: Colder Kendrick, me and you in a situation, right, somebody
Speaker 3: that we cool it says something, right, it's a little
Speaker 3: we're going back and forth. Right, You called me on
Speaker 3: phone for a couple of hours kicking it, okay, and
Speaker 3: I say, oh, yeah, I just spoked them last night.
Speaker 1: I was on the four one for three hours.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just throw that in the conversation now, Rory,
Speaker 3: I just spoked them last night. We was on the
Speaker 3: phone for a couple of hours. You're like, what the fuck? Like,
Speaker 3: when was you gonna tell me that? And then I say, yo, yo, Rory,
Speaker 3: let me hit you right back.
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm about to put I'm about to.
Speaker 3: Put my son to bed. I'm gonna quit you right back.
Speaker 3: And then we never speak again.
Speaker 1: Okay. I hate to bring them back into it.
Speaker 2: But is it at the time of is the matter
Speaker 2: of people talking shit like the like that verse where
Speaker 2: it's not that serious, like this is just a rap?
Speaker 2: Like was it just banter? Because then I feel like before,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I can speak.
Speaker 1: To both people. This is before not like us. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I said, is it the like
Speaker 1: that verse time? Yeah, like that was the because it was.
Speaker 2: Already about and I'm just trying to say like that
Speaker 2: to me, I wouldn't feel a way if you were
Speaker 2: talking to somebody when it was just like a verse of.
Speaker 1: Fucking before three is just the four dreamfest.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel a way if somebody had said something
Speaker 2: about us and you were still talking to them, but
Speaker 2: it was at the level of just that. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: care that much now if it got way more serious. Yeah, no, No,
Speaker 2: you missed what I'm saying. Yo, I spoke to him.
Speaker 2: I spoke to him last night. Yeah, what y'all talked about?
Speaker 3: You don't really say much and then you get off
Speaker 3: the phone saying, y'all got to put a mall in
Speaker 3: the tub, let me call you back, and then you
Speaker 3: never called me back. Okay, I don't have a right
Speaker 3: to look at you like, what the fuck? You understand
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like to me, yo, yo yo, mar
Speaker 3: let me know themorrow in the tune, let me put
Speaker 3: it down. I'm gonna call you soon as I put
Speaker 3: her asleep. Yeah, and then I never hear from you again.
Speaker 2: And then I get on a podcast apologizing to the
Speaker 2: other person, and then and then you go onto your pod.
Speaker 3: I can't say, yo, I apologize, And I don't have
Speaker 3: a right to feel like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was my brother.
Speaker 2: I would only feel a way if you want to
Speaker 2: go make a choice for you at your big age.
Speaker 1: Cool, but we would also need to speak. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what according to call, That's that he tried.
Speaker 1: So who knows what you're trying. I don't know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm not there.
Speaker 3: You know you've because you've been in a situation where
Speaker 3: somebody when you when you see somebody like you. I
Speaker 3: was just trying to call you. What this I was
Speaker 3: just trying to call you mean, how do you try
Speaker 3: to call somebody? Either you press call or there is
Speaker 3: no I tried to call you, y'all. Was just trying
Speaker 3: to call you. What do you mean you was just
Speaker 3: trying to call me like that's what people do again,
Speaker 3: And I understand and that it makes more sense because
Speaker 3: he's non confrontational and I understand that, and I'm not
Speaker 3: mad at that. But you gotta face that fire, bro,
Speaker 3: or are you just gonna not ever be cool with
Speaker 3: him again?
Speaker 1: Which is crazy to me?
Speaker 3: Which is crazy because it's like, Bro, just just say
Speaker 3: you was wrong in the way you handled it. Y'all
Speaker 3: apologized I was wrong. I shouldn't I shouldn't handled like that.
Speaker 3: I handled that completely wrong. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: But when you move and act like you know, like yo, listen, man,
Speaker 3: you know that had nothing to do with me. I
Speaker 3: kind of just moved out the way and you know,
Speaker 3: and I still love those That's not enough to me, Bro,
Speaker 3: That's not it's not it's not the history. It doesn't
Speaker 3: it doesn't speak to the history that you have with
Speaker 3: both of them. But really with Drake, and then, like
Speaker 3: I said, coming off of the success of everything that
Speaker 3: y'all was just doing, having your first number one and
Speaker 3: going on the road and having all of these moments
Speaker 3: that we were talking about on stage, you know, like
Speaker 3: it was like Dan that was dope to see both
Speaker 3: of them, and then all of a sudden two months later,
Speaker 3: y'all never speak again after that. I think that's a
Speaker 3: little crazy man to me. I just think that. And again,
Speaker 3: you know, I know people feel like, yo, Drake is
Speaker 3: your boy, so you riding for cool. I understand that,
Speaker 3: but just use yourself, put yourself in that position with
Speaker 3: one of your friends, one of your homies, and think
Speaker 3: how would you feel about that.
Speaker 1: I think anybody has directly be like that was fucked up.
Speaker 1: As we say in capav Soferny, corporate brotherhood is a
Speaker 1: two a street. Drake's allowed to feel away.
Speaker 2: But also you can't be mad at somebody if they
Speaker 2: tried to reach out or text you and you didn't reply,
Speaker 2: you have every right to do that, but you can't
Speaker 2: be mad that maybe they didn't take triple extra effort
Speaker 2: to keep texting you, because if they didn't reply. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I get sometimes I get the message like if it's
Speaker 2: not off one text, I'm not going to beat this
Speaker 2: into the ground because maybe I did a fuck up.
Speaker 2: And if you're not replying, I'll give you the time
Speaker 2: you can reply when when you feel comfortable because I'm
Speaker 2: not about to force the conversation if you don't want
Speaker 2: to fuck. So it's a two a street in that regard.
Speaker 2: But in closing, I think the overall theme here is that,
Speaker 2: like when you think about it, rap battles are really gay.
Speaker 1: This is gay. No no, but no, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: not gay. It's not good.
Speaker 3: Rap battles aren't gay because rap is a competitive thing.
Speaker 3: It's a competitive art form, So it's not gay. It's
Speaker 3: that people turn it to make it too emotional. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think that's what Cole did. He put he
Speaker 3: put way too much thought in them.
Speaker 1: It was just a rat battle, bro.
Speaker 3: And I said when I said, I wasn't just no, no,
Speaker 3: that's something totally different. I'm saying that it was just
Speaker 3: it was just a rap. He turned it into the
Speaker 3: emotional that I can't sleep and this, that and the third, and.
Speaker 1: That's when I was like, Yoka, what is this.
Speaker 3: That's when it starts to feel a little like yo,
Speaker 3: come on, bro. We putting way too much emotion into
Speaker 3: what could have just been an entertaining battle between some
Speaker 3: of the best rappers that we ever had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. And I promise we'll start to get
Speaker 2: off this. There's one note from the Nedeska interview that
Speaker 2: I do want to kind of go back to the
Speaker 2: new generation has tried to change the rules on a
Speaker 2: lot of shit. My favorite styles Pea quote is coming
Speaker 2: off the shop conversation with Drake and Brawn about the
Speaker 2: forty situation, and Styles was like, Drake is a great MC,
Speaker 2: but you can't come here and change the rules at
Speaker 2: this point, Like if you want to get in the mudd,
Speaker 2: you got to stay in the mud. You can't come
Speaker 2: in here and say what's okay and what's not okay.
Speaker 2: These rules have existed well before all of us. You
Speaker 2: don't get to do that. I kind of felt that
Speaker 2: way with Cole talking about people debating rap to some degree.
Speaker 2: He was saying, like, yo, sports does it as well,
Speaker 2: Like to big up Lebron, I have to shit on
Speaker 2: Jordan or vice versa. I have to steal the joy
Speaker 2: of watching one of the best basketball players if I
Speaker 2: start having Lebron and Jordan shit where I feel you
Speaker 2: on a logical level, but that's this sport is an
Speaker 2: art is to be debated, Like that's never gonna You
Speaker 2: can't come here now, you can feel the way you're
Speaker 2: a artist, You're a human, right, Erica Badu.
Speaker 1: Are some sensitive about my shit?
Speaker 2: I get it, but I don't view Maybe I view
Speaker 2: that way with the stands on the internet as far
Speaker 2: as debates go, but healthy rap debates have existed since
Speaker 2: its inception, and it's not tearing someone else down. If
Speaker 2: you want to say, reasonable doubt is better than ellmatic
Speaker 2: or vice versa, not tearing that shit. I love illmatic
Speaker 2: love like. I thought that was odd when he was
Speaker 2: saying that. And I've heard other artists say this in
Speaker 2: interviews and it bothers me because y'all do the same thing.
Speaker 2: Y'all shit on podcasters, media people, every one that is
Speaker 2: having debates about your music. I've been in the studio
Speaker 2: with a lot of y'all. I bet around everyone to
Speaker 2: dream through love those guys. We have healthy rap debates
Speaker 2: where we do the same thing Cole is saying it.
Speaker 1: It's part of it. It's part of the culture. People.
Speaker 2: I've seen artists in interviews say how much they hate
Speaker 2: this critiquing world, and the time that I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: I've better studio with you. You've said way worse shit
Speaker 2: than I ever said on the MICUs. But if you
Speaker 2: think Cole has not.
Speaker 1: Had worse conversations than we've had on this fucking come on.
Speaker 1: But dude, debate the same way we do. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: but that's what you love this shit.
Speaker 3: That's always been a part of this culture, though, is
Speaker 3: debating you hear something, how you fucked about you? You
Speaker 3: like that year I said something like, nah, he ain't
Speaker 3: fucking with it. That's always been a thing. It was
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson Prince growing up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was like that.
Speaker 3: That was that was That's always been a part of
Speaker 3: consuming art and being, you know, in this coat of
Speaker 3: hip hop and just music. It was always like who
Speaker 3: you feel is better?
Speaker 1: Who you who?
Speaker 3: Who do you like more? Whose album was better? Who
Speaker 3: who had the better song, Who's a better performer? You know,
Speaker 3: like who's more stylish, who's fly, who's cooler? That's always
Speaker 3: been a part of it. Like so we can't now
Speaker 3: that you know, you're in this moment and it's your
Speaker 3: turn to be you know, you're the main character now
Speaker 3: to be debated and say like, oh, I hate when
Speaker 3: people do that, Like why do we have to We're
Speaker 3: not tearing them if it's a battle. It's a battle.
Speaker 3: People are gonna pick their favorites. People are gonna pick
Speaker 3: who they feel like, you know, they want to win,
Speaker 3: they want a champion and root for and that's it.
Speaker 3: But once that moment is over, we all move on,
Speaker 3: We move forward, the culture keeps moving forward, and then
Speaker 3: in a couple of years, we'll have another moment with
Speaker 3: whoever they deem are the best. They're going to collide
Speaker 3: and have to show their skill set. Like it goes,
Speaker 3: it keeps. This is not the first or last battle
Speaker 3: of hip hop. Now, it was a very unique moment.
Speaker 3: It was because of the caliber the artists that we're
Speaker 3: talking about. So it was a very unique moment and
Speaker 3: probably one of the biggest moments, if not the biggest
Speaker 3: moment when it comes to battle in hip hop that
Speaker 3: we've had. But this isn't the first battle of.
Speaker 2: He was saying, just in general, two of like not
Speaker 2: even battle relate, Like just if we're arguing albums or
Speaker 2: arguing music. And I mean, I like to Mike Princeton,
Speaker 2: like if I say, well, all right, Mike didn't engineer
Speaker 2: all those albums Prince engineered Perple Rain. I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not taking away from Michael Jackson's Oh.
Speaker 3: You just name it facts and points to support your
Speaker 3: argument and the debate.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make Thriller any different, Like, it doesn't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from anybody.
Speaker 3: It's like, nah, but you know, Prince taught his stuff
Speaker 3: how to play every instrument. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, that's a fact. Throw that in the hat.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. Yeah, but Prince don't dance like Mike,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's it's all and furthermore,
Speaker 3: where we hip hop itself was built upon that energy
Speaker 3: of battling. I'm gonna bring my DJ to your park
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have my MC da da da. He's
Speaker 3: from my block. We're gonna see who got the better.
Speaker 3: That's always been a part of it. Like, so that's
Speaker 3: why I really didn't understand, you know, J Cole not
Speaker 3: wanting to be in that moment because he's such a
Speaker 3: hip hop head. I would think that he would understan, Yes,
Speaker 3: this is something that's gonna happen in this culture.
Speaker 1: The titans have to clash. They say, he's the best.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see. But I think in the Desk interview.
Speaker 1: He had some he was humble in.
Speaker 2: Understanding why people had the quote unquote outrage that they
Speaker 2: did have.
Speaker 1: He was understanding in that room, he has to understand
Speaker 1: that from the culture.
Speaker 2: But even in that there's a flip side to that coin,
Speaker 2: because I kind of see what he's saying if he's
Speaker 2: talking specifically about how toxic the internet music timeline has
Speaker 2: become post this battle, because I agree, yes with the
Speaker 2: guys that were never even music fans until this battle.
Speaker 2: They're just Drake fans or they're just Kendrick fans. Yes,
Speaker 2: they're tearing down somebody's credibility, livelihood, character to try to
Speaker 2: win a debate. I feel him if that's who he's
Speaker 2: talking about. But to say that we can't debate hip
Speaker 2: hop because we're tearing someone out and the thief of
Speaker 2: joy and everything they brought up, that's where I disagree.
Speaker 2: I do agree if he's talking about the Internet now,
Speaker 2: because y'all are weirdos, and I think the J Cole
Speaker 2: out of the Big three, the J Cole stands are
Speaker 2: probably the least toxic. But if you go through the
Speaker 2: stands of the Big three, yeah, all they do is
Speaker 2: tear down the other person in regards to a debate,
Speaker 2: like we're not even talking about music at this point. Now,
Speaker 2: now you're trying to figure out, like whose family structure
Speaker 2: is set up this way, and now we're getting to
Speaker 2: a very disrupted place if that's what you're focused on.
Speaker 2: So I hear him there, But that's that's a small majority, dog,
Speaker 2: as much as I hate that part of Twitter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like the point zero one percent of music fans, right,
Speaker 2: that's just your algorithm for the day, Dog, Like the
Speaker 2: rest of us are here having healthy debates, not tearing death.
Speaker 2: I argue jay z nas all the time. I don't
Speaker 2: tear down either of them when I bring up points
Speaker 2: that I just thought it was.
Speaker 3: Not thought of it, man. Yeah, but I am. I
Speaker 3: do want to see his conversation with Cam. I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to that. You know, hopefully he goes more into
Speaker 3: depth about because obviously you know Cam being I hope
Speaker 3: he goes more into depth about the wrap, the wrapping
Speaker 3: perspective of the whole thing, Like that's what I want
Speaker 3: to hear Cole Speeds, So I want to hear more
Speaker 3: about that. So looking forward to hing his conversation talk
Speaker 3: with Flee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that and sorry before we get off,
Speaker 2: j Cole salutes to Mike Will made it. Reset is
Speaker 2: out now. Two listens. I think it's incredible. Obviously Cole
Speaker 2: is on that project, and I am here to give
Speaker 2: Big Sean his flowers. Okay, Cole stands. Everyone calm the
Speaker 2: fuck down. I think Cole got off then Cole went crazy.
Speaker 2: I really like the record. It's one of those that
Speaker 2: you could ride in the car. I'll probably put that
Speaker 2: on the first thing when I get.
Speaker 1: In the car to leave here. Love the record.
Speaker 2: I out of the Big three, all three of them
Speaker 2: have borrowed Big Sean flows a couple times in their
Speaker 2: fucking careers, even if it was to diss them when
Speaker 2: Kendrick did it. Drake has admitted he has before, which
Speaker 2: I thought was honorable to be like, yeah, I took
Speaker 2: that flow, but to say specifically with hits too, even
Speaker 2: though I know this record on Mike Will's.
Speaker 1: Album, Cole was just spitting he wouldn't try to make
Speaker 1: a record.
Speaker 2: But anytime rappers Kanye included, try to make a hit
Speaker 2: in this era, they borrow a Big Sean flow like
Speaker 2: Shawn's flows. If you go through his entire career are
Speaker 2: coded in so many hit records. I can find it
Speaker 2: in fucking problems. I can find it in so many records.
Speaker 2: And I don't think there's anything wrong with Cole using
Speaker 2: the flow that he used on this Mike Will record.
Speaker 1: But that is a Big Sean flow, like I was. Actually,
Speaker 1: it was so obvious.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for Cole because the guy that he
Speaker 2: is to shout out Big Sean while he was rapping
Speaker 2: that way. Sean has created the blueprint for a lot
Speaker 2: of the pockets that have created the rap that we
Speaker 2: love today. Like Sewan does not get enough credit for
Speaker 2: his is cadence. How he finds even the ship we
Speaker 2: fucking clown. Yeah, like even the the rap like Big
Speaker 2: Sean Twitter trend that it was all funny, but don't
Speaker 2: act like that hasn't gotten us here. Nicky has flows
Speaker 2: that are coded in Big Sean. Like everyone that we
Speaker 2: love has borrowed from Big Sean, and I don't think it.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that whatsoever. Everyone
Speaker 2: borrows from everybody. Shawn's borrowed from people as well. But
Speaker 2: the fact that that has not been more on the
Speaker 2: forefront and so obvious to people was kind of beyond me,
Speaker 2: like Sean is one of them.
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's that's something that's always happened though.
Speaker 3: People have always borrowed flows and styles from uh you know.
Speaker 3: That's to me, that's the ultimate compliment for an artist.
Speaker 3: Like when you have like an artist to come along
Speaker 3: and borrow my flow and my style on something, it's
Speaker 3: let you know, like, Okay, I made, I bought a sound.
Speaker 3: I bought an energy of cadence to rap that another
Speaker 3: artist thought was cool and dope, and they kind of bought.
Speaker 1: Jay borrowed.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he borrowed pop pop who young Christ, No,
Speaker 3: he borrowed, he borrowed Park's flowing.
Speaker 1: Ain't no nigga.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, that's Pot that's his flow, that's his
Speaker 3: Kadie's for the deafamitue skin though no bad got you
Speaker 3: on t of Maasachi knew got it, that's Pot Like
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't never notice that, but you know,
Speaker 3: and even in that moment that was special because Pot
Speaker 3: this Jay, and then Jay said, I don't hate on
Speaker 3: those hate on me. I got pot on like he
Speaker 3: was very clean that like I ain't got no you know,
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like, no issue.
Speaker 1: With that borrowed his flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's something I think every you know, dope
Speaker 3: MC should kind of look for, Like if I'm dope
Speaker 3: enough to peoplehere, people want to borrow my flow and
Speaker 3: kind of like I inspired him to to to kind
Speaker 3: of write and rap a certain way.
Speaker 1: I think that that's dope. I don't think it's no
Speaker 1: knock to now.
Speaker 3: It is fucked up when you don't give that artist
Speaker 3: credit and it'd be like, yo, nah, I got.
Speaker 1: That flow from.
Speaker 2: But sometimes I don't even think it's it's it's the
Speaker 2: artist's responsibility, because I think borring flows is fine. Like
Speaker 2: I don't think it's no I mean, like I think
Speaker 2: this cold record with Michael is amazing.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't think he should have
Speaker 1: tweeted out like moral music.
Speaker 2: I just want to give Sean his flowers like in
Speaker 2: that regard, because so many people have done that with
Speaker 2: records and and maybe if you're not, if you're a
Speaker 2: casual fan, it may not be something that's so obvious
Speaker 2: to you, which is totally fucking fine. I'm a loser
Speaker 2: nerd that obsesses over this stuff. But I think Sean
Speaker 2: should get those flowers, and not to say that mine
Speaker 2: would mean anything, but in the nerd community, I think
Speaker 2: we owe Sean like at least some props of the
Speaker 2: amount of flows that he has given to the world
Speaker 2: that have created hit records, great b side records, Like
Speaker 2: Sean is him when it comes to that. You can
Speaker 2: laugh at some of his his rhymes, but duh, everyone
Speaker 2: inspired it, Like Ludacris is up there too. I think
Speaker 2: some people would even say some of Sean's shit with
Speaker 2: the Papaup balloons, like some of that maybe came from
Speaker 2: Luda as well. Luda and Sean both have given us
Speaker 2: flows that I don't think people realize it came from.
Speaker 1: I say it all the time.
Speaker 3: I mean you listen to Meek, I mean how you
Speaker 3: you You should definitely turn after you finished listening to
Speaker 3: Meet you should go listen to ace Hood.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that that's one of the clear ones that
Speaker 3: we never really spoke about. It really gave credit to
Speaker 3: like ace Hood, like the way he inspired like he.
Speaker 2: It's more production or flow because like in NIE's defense,
Speaker 2: he was given like even when he had the dirty
Speaker 2: braids before ace Hood really hit with Khaled, like he
Speaker 2: was rapping in his version of Philly Flow.
Speaker 1: No I'm not saying he wasn't.
Speaker 3: But if you listen to Ace Hood and you listen
Speaker 3: to me, and you tell me you can't hear.
Speaker 1: Bugatti very much could be a Meek Mill hit and
Speaker 1: knowing what even this ye okay, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, so I mean, and now whether
Speaker 1: that was the first want to be able to wrap
Speaker 1: that way, to make a hit that way the way? Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but the crazy thing is, I think that sometimes
Speaker 3: artists don't even notice it because if you hear Hustle
Speaker 3: Hard and Bugatti and all of that as a as
Speaker 3: you know, as that to me, that cadence and that
Speaker 3: sticks in your mind when you're creating.
Speaker 1: You don't even know that your brain is borrowing from that.
Speaker 3: Because you like that cadence in that flow so much
Speaker 3: that now you've adopted it when you write, and you'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh shit, I didn't even realize. But then
Speaker 3: when we get the record and you hit a record,
Speaker 3: you like, that's like you said, but god, it could
Speaker 3: have been a meek song, Hustle Hard and all that.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, whether it's intentional or not. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, when you have things that we listen to
Speaker 3: and that we hear, sometimes it's so embttered in our
Speaker 3: brain and a part of our DNA that we don't
Speaker 3: even realize that we're pulling from that and borrowing from
Speaker 3: that because we've heard it so much. Like you, Sometimes
Speaker 3: you hear a song when you're out moving around, You'll
Speaker 3: start humming that song the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't even realize.
Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, like I heard that song six hours ago,
Speaker 3: Why am I singing this song all of a sudden?
Speaker 2: I mean shit, even to get sorry Peach, to get
Speaker 2: super nerdy, I can always tell when Peace likes the conversation,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Even more nerdy.
Speaker 2: Even if Meek never even felt like he was inspired
Speaker 2: by ace Hood, it trained the consumer's ear for records
Speaker 2: like that to be hits like it made it it palatable.
Speaker 2: Meat could come with a record that wouldn't be a
Speaker 2: traditional hit and can wrap that way, and the audience
Speaker 2: is already accustomed to somebody doing it that way. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I definitely hear you on that, that's for sure. I mean,
Speaker 2: you already know how I feel. It's sampling, bro, that's
Speaker 2: that's what hip hop was did. Rap is built on sampling.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all. Let's all call it sampling. That's
Speaker 1: all we're doing with sampling. Fair enough. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a perfect fucking segue.
Speaker 2: Are you connected with Meek on LinkedIn yet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I'm my request is still pending. We're still I'm still
Speaker 2: in the cue.
Speaker 1: Meeg is on LinkedIn? Like that's really him? He announced
Speaker 1: it over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't pay attention to the greatest tweeter of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 1: I had push notifications I had, I didn't Meek was
Speaker 1: was was announced that he's on LinkedIn? Had no. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: they've been killing him. This is this is his bio
Speaker 1: right here? Would you like to read it that loud? Uh?
Speaker 3: Okay, Meek Robert Williams Robert Williams mill he him or
Speaker 3: is his his pronounce?
Speaker 1: Progressive? Uh?
Speaker 3: Looking to build out and make business connections that's aligned
Speaker 3: with Meek mill dream Chases and bike Life brand also
Speaker 3: connect more about criminal justice reform. I'm also nice at
Speaker 3: creating tech ideas Meek Millie.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is real.
Speaker 2: By the way, I think Ryan pulled up some bullshit,
Speaker 2: but that's really his bio on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can confirm that. That's it's verified. That is.
Speaker 2: Typing on Lincoln the way you type on like the
Speaker 2: spaces between and and bike Life.
Speaker 1: Meek is fucking with us. This is this is him
Speaker 1: just fucking with us.
Speaker 2: I've gotten to that point where we've argued on the spot.
Speaker 2: I think Meek is fucking with all but Jamarics included
Speaker 2: like he mean that ship.
Speaker 3: Nah, I think Meek is fucking with us. He don't
Speaker 3: mean this. This is just this is his latest.
Speaker 2: Fun We're supposed to get a was it one hundred
Speaker 2: albums from him last year and we didn't get one.
Speaker 3: You know, things kind of slowed up, the pressing plants
Speaker 3: and all that things. He's trying to get vinyls.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm not here to kill Meek the way
Speaker 2: y'all work the entire weekend.
Speaker 1: Let me go on LinkedIn and then make some connections.
Speaker 1: Oh people was killing them for that? What do you do? Like?
Speaker 1: He said it's Meek Millia on his LinkedIn profile. What
Speaker 1: it is? It's Meek Milli. You can't you didn't understand
Speaker 1: who it was. That's who he is.
Speaker 2: Okay, but meet does a lot of stuff with criminal
Speaker 2: reform and all that, like it could be a good
Speaker 2: place to network. And he was saying, like, yo, we
Speaker 2: all caught up on TikTok and and ig like LinkedIn's
Speaker 2: a positive place and yeah, you don't know who could
Speaker 2: just stumble upon Meek's profile and see see some potential
Speaker 2: y'all ha haters?
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, man, let me get Let me get to
Speaker 3: that bag man, let me make his connections. Man. Starting
Speaker 3: my LinkedIn journey as an artist, I have dedicated much
Speaker 3: of my time to honing my creators whom meat cam't
Speaker 3: wrote this.
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't match his bio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they not honing honing my creative skills. Now I
Speaker 3: am ready to transition into the business world. Now you're
Speaker 3: ready to transition to business world? Okay, and showcase my
Speaker 3: true potential. For too long, others have spoken on my behalf.
Speaker 3: But now I'm taking the rains. Meek, somebody is still
Speaker 3: speaking on your behalf. Now I'm taking the rains and
Speaker 3: speaking for myself, supported by a strong team.
Speaker 1: This is somebody on your team. Okay.
Speaker 3: Recently I showcased Dreams of Night mimas of Philadelphia. I'll
Speaker 3: be posting more content and business ideas to demonstrate the
Speaker 3: strength of the brand and my thought process. All right, listen,
Speaker 3: man me trying to get his business in order.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at on the independent management side of me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: left Rock, who's probably speaking for him now listen, may
Speaker 2: you gotta back to the basics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it, start start a LinkedIn profile, but.
Speaker 2: I just like I wish Meek would just go on
Speaker 2: live and just start reading like his LinkedIn messages.
Speaker 1: I just got to see who reaching out.
Speaker 3: Who's trying to connect with him? Yeah, that might that
Speaker 3: might be something he needs to stream. He need to
Speaker 3: stream doing that.
Speaker 1: Are you on LinkedIn? No?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I mean you should start your journey with with Meek? Yeah,
Speaker 1: meet them all, go to bio again.
Speaker 2: So it's it's bike life, Yeah, dream Chasers, Meek Millie yeah,
Speaker 2: and meeting more Meek and more Lawyer.
Speaker 1: I could get that LLC moving tonight if you want
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 3: And that's I'm gonna have to hit Meek up and
Speaker 3: like you might really get our LinkedIn ship going for sure.
Speaker 2: I got a hundred on it, Yeah, one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Do you watch Shark Tank?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, what would that value the company have? Then?
Speaker 1: If I if I invest a five percent for one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for me and more.
Speaker 2: Oh man, what what do you think, like what would
Speaker 2: be the first vision for Meek and mall? Like, will
Speaker 2: be the first thing y'all would tackle.
Speaker 1: Something with criminal justice form something something along. Got that already, yeah,
Speaker 1: but nah, we gotta we gotta really build that out more.
Speaker 2: Though, y'all should be like the Firestone of tires, but
Speaker 2: just specifically.
Speaker 1: For dirt bikes and then get sued or helmets. Make
Speaker 1: helmets yo, Right, that's the thing man, Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: fucked up. It's not cool to wear a helmet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta make we gotta make make helmets great again.
Speaker 1: That's what we gotta.
Speaker 3: Me and me can make helmets great again because you
Speaker 3: see a lot of these dudes on the dirt bikes.
Speaker 1: They don't really be winning helmets. It's like, nah, put
Speaker 1: a helmet or make make helmets cool again. Yo.
Speaker 2: I mean when I when I got my custom bike,
Speaker 2: when I went to like pick it up after I
Speaker 2: did the whole process, He's like, you don't want to
Speaker 2: buy a helmet. I thought he was just being a salesman.
Speaker 2: He was like, you just spend this amount of money
Speaker 2: on your bike. You don't want to spend any money
Speaker 2: on your brain.
Speaker 1: Huh right. I was like, that's not even a salesman,
Speaker 1: that's just a fucking it's.
Speaker 2: Just a logical human. But we need to spend all
Speaker 2: this money. What about your head?
Speaker 1: Gotta protect your head? Man.
Speaker 2: Okay, make it more helmets, make it more helmets. Should
Speaker 2: we go back to like pro tech? Who has a
Speaker 2: protech plug?
Speaker 1: See, y'all, y'all too young, we'll find one.
Speaker 2: You don't even know Protech. I don't even you don't
Speaker 2: even know Tony Hark pro skater too.
Speaker 3: You're crazy. Yeah, Me and me and me can make
Speaker 3: make helmets cool again. Make helmets cool again, Me and
Speaker 3: me for sure. We get the m logos on the
Speaker 3: side from Meek and Mall like the Eminem's kind of
Speaker 3: Jack Eminem's, y'all laugh, And I see the y'all see
Speaker 3: the bag.
Speaker 2: Y'all remember like Mickey Mano Roger Merris did the eminem ship,
Speaker 2: Like y'all.
Speaker 1: Could be see what I'm saying. The asterisk could be
Speaker 1: the logo exactly. Assisty one just take something from them,
Speaker 1: borrow from Roger and Mickey. And that was Meek and mall. Y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all don't see the vision. I need people around me
Speaker 1: that has visionaries. Man, y'all don't have vision. That's the
Speaker 1: problem now, all.
Speaker 2: Right, But would that be too much of a conflict
Speaker 2: with with Bike Life brand because I don't want you
Speaker 2: to do a bad, bad business.
Speaker 1: Deal and you're getting baked.
Speaker 3: That's something different. Okay, that's his own thing. Gotch you
Speaker 3: We just we on helmets. We ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with with bikes.
Speaker 1: I have a connection to to damon.
Speaker 2: If I had a chance to get you and Meek
Speaker 2: on Shark Tank to pitch, how much time you guys
Speaker 2: would need.
Speaker 1: No, we can get that deal done quick. Mark Cuban
Speaker 1: already talked about the music business. Even though I know
Speaker 1: he left Shark Tank. We get him back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cuban is a music head. He's a hip hop head.
Speaker 3: He respects the culture. Cuban's not there no more.
Speaker 1: No, he left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like the only compassionate one on that show.
Speaker 2: He would all like he congratulate like people be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just made a million dollars off this this idea
Speaker 2: I had in my room, Yo, congrats.
Speaker 1: Everyone else be like that. That's awful. It's like he
Speaker 1: made a million dollars from his room. Yeah, yeah, is
Speaker 1: with us. He's a man of the people. He's a
Speaker 1: man of people. You know.
Speaker 2: It would be funny though, Like you remember the redacted
Speaker 2: helmets from the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm using the word redacted.
Speaker 2: I hope you know the word I'm using, Like the
Speaker 2: helmets they would put on certain people like that we
Speaker 2: could bring back and like you can have that on
Speaker 2: the bike because I think it would be like an
Speaker 2: olde Yeah, like you'd be shown awareness and.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna help you on a bike.
Speaker 3: That's just helping you in life. That just helps you
Speaker 3: when you're trying to go get something out a snack
Speaker 3: out the fridge, Like that's not no the bike. You
Speaker 3: need something a little more, put a little more mass
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: If me shut up with one of those, that would
Speaker 2: be the funniest day on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Make it cool. Let's make it cool. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they call him that on Twitter all the time. Cool
Speaker 1: meek No, No, talk about the redactor.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's not Who's not who I was talking about.
Speaker 1: No, shout out to me. I'm glad you're on LinkedIn, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me going on LinkedIn streets. Man, they laughing at you.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with it, Meek, I like it. Maul.
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Speaker 1: I'm here to be a solid partner with Mega Mall.
Speaker 1: If you're down to have me, yeah, let's make it high. Pause.
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyways, how you felt about Mandamie's top five
Speaker 2: rappers of all time.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, you trying to get me to say something
Speaker 3: about MoMA Donna and that's not going to say it.
Speaker 3: What's Who's Mam Donnie's top five rappers?
Speaker 1: Common jay Z, Biggie Nahs, Loope, common Ja, Biggie Noahs,
Speaker 1: and Loope.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it, all right, I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: I told you I'm not when it comes to people's
Speaker 3: preference and in their opinions on music, I'm really not.
Speaker 1: I'm not pushing it.
Speaker 3: If that's Mom Donnie's top five cool now show me
Speaker 3: Mom Donnie's top five solutions to cleaning up New York City.
Speaker 1: Great, this is great.
Speaker 3: These are all MC's that I listened to that I like
Speaker 3: as well, Mam Donnie. Cool Now show me his top
Speaker 3: five solutions to fixing the city.
Speaker 1: No, it's cooler when you talk about rap exactly. He's relatable.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about all this shit that ain't
Speaker 3: got nothing to do with the budget, nothing to do
Speaker 3: with that, nothing to.
Speaker 1: Do with the whole line. Right now, the potholes being
Speaker 1: fixed in June, they're being fixed. There's already. See. You
Speaker 1: don't even pay attention to geopolitics, aka just New York City.
Speaker 1: It's crazy New York City June. They're being fixed.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's fucked up that he didn't have
Speaker 2: anyone from all of them? Like how you from Harlem
Speaker 2: and don't have that?
Speaker 1: Nah? Top five? Nah, I'm not mad at that. Do
Speaker 1: you all think he should go on top talk with
Speaker 1: Flee right after Cole?
Speaker 3: He probably has tried to go and talk with Flee.
Speaker 3: Donnie's probably reached out and that probably will happen. That
Speaker 3: probably will happen. It will definitely happen.
Speaker 1: Definitely, I can see that happening. But it's time for
Speaker 1: re election. We're gonna go sit with here. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be here, Donnie's gonna be right here with.
Speaker 2: Do you think he talks to uh, Gillian Wallow? That'd
Speaker 2: be a great convo. I mean they're they're Philly, yeah,
Speaker 2: speaking more than New York. But I think the Gilly
Speaker 2: Gillian Wallow episode with Mondamie would be fucking hilarious. Do
Speaker 2: you think so they just got Tyree to admit that
Speaker 2: he acted redacted at the Social Security Office.
Speaker 3: Well, Roy, we all have that's not news to me
Speaker 3: that the fact that Tyree said his mom made him
Speaker 3: act like something was wrong with him or act uh,
Speaker 3: you know, special soci Security Office.
Speaker 2: I think everyone's parents has told them to add special
Speaker 2: needs at some point in their life.
Speaker 1: But that was a part of growing up.
Speaker 3: Man, if your mom had to go to the office
Speaker 3: and get public assistance and all of that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you had to go in there. You can't look too clean,
Speaker 3: you got to look like you're struggling a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was part of it. Man.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of that's weird. Tyrys and Meek do
Speaker 2: you have a lot in common? My favorite part of
Speaker 2: this clip. For those that didn't see it, Tyree said
Speaker 2: that his mom used to make him act retarded at
Speaker 2: the Social Security Office to receive seven hundred eight dollars
Speaker 2: a month and in watts in the eighties.
Speaker 3: That's balling, yo, balling. You got act retardingt balling. But
Speaker 3: when it was so Valtaile was acting retarded? Like what
Speaker 3: is acting retarded? I don't like, don't get me.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying it. I'm just saying like, like what
Speaker 1: if he did something and his mom.
Speaker 3: Was like, no, that's not it, Like, how do you pivot?
Speaker 3: Like what is acting retarded? What does that look like
Speaker 3: you just drooling on yourself. I'm not answering this question.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out what is just acting
Speaker 3: up Like you're acting like bad in the Social Skirit office,
Speaker 3: like you're just knocking it over your mom say so,
Speaker 3: now you don't listen?
Speaker 1: Is that acting retarded?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: Christ Stefano, who we've had on the show, has a
Speaker 2: very funny bit about his dad trying to get him
Speaker 2: to the first section in Yankee Stadium, which I mean,
Speaker 2: I think all our dads, anyone that went to Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 2: you buy, bleach your tickets, and then you try to
Speaker 2: sneak down.
Speaker 1: You're not a good father if you didn't.
Speaker 2: Do that with your kid and try to teach them
Speaker 2: how to game pass that shit. So his father had
Speaker 2: told the security guard right there that hey, my son
Speaker 2: has special needs, and then they got down to the
Speaker 2: seats and his dad said the drew was a nice touch.
Speaker 2: And then Chris the SEVENO started to think, wait, am
Speaker 2: I retarded.
Speaker 3: The Drew? He didn't even know he was droolid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how you got to do it, man.
Speaker 1: So I mean tell it.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of this clip though, was Gilly said,
Speaker 2: you've been acting your whole life, and I'm misinterpreted what
Speaker 2: Gilly said. I thought Gilly was saying, you've been acting
Speaker 2: retarding your whole life.
Speaker 1: That was my first intention of what that stuff. That's
Speaker 1: not what he was saying. I get it, though.
Speaker 3: I listen, man, Tyres grew up like most of us,
Speaker 3: grew up inner cities, like you got to go to
Speaker 3: that off some time.
Speaker 1: Your mom's like, listen, we need this check and do
Speaker 1: what we gotta do. Tyres is from Watts to say
Speaker 1: what ship? I understand. I get it.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, if you're in the Coca
Speaker 2: Cola commercials and you're trying to keep that off the books.
Speaker 1: Well that was you gotta go. You gotta go full
Speaker 1: retard scurity office. That was later on, and not just
Speaker 1: see this kid doing the Coca Cola commercials. That was
Speaker 1: later on. Ty was in high school at that point.
Speaker 1: But no, that that ship was super funny. You mentioned
Speaker 1: to me off Mike that there's the ty Resent tank versus.
Speaker 3: Ty Reson tank versus this Thursday, right twenty six.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be dope.
Speaker 3: I think this is this is gonna be one of
Speaker 3: those verses where because I kind of wasn't too you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't anticipating a lot of the previous verses that
Speaker 3: we've had recently, but this one because I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, they're not really too famili
Speaker 3: with tanks catalog and if it's songs that Tank also
Speaker 3: wrote or produce that he's.
Speaker 1: Playing, yeah, I don't know if that's fair though, why
Speaker 1: not we've here, we've seen we've seen other people do
Speaker 1: that on versus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was usually like writer verse writer producer
Speaker 2: versus producer. If Tanks start doing all this ship he wrote,
Speaker 2: then this is a very unfair battle like hits tu tho. No,
Speaker 2: it's just artest first artist. I'm more of a Tank
Speaker 2: fan than I am a Tyreee fan. But if you
Speaker 2: get like, what do you signs of love making? What
Speaker 2: do you what do you come back with?
Speaker 1: Don't go? True? But I still think sounds of love
Speaker 1: making like get you there? Nah?
Speaker 3: The audience a versus audience Nah, don't go is don't
Speaker 3: go as I don't care who's watching that, don't Go
Speaker 3: is probably gonna win that round. Tank plays sounds of
Speaker 3: love making and you played don't go. Don't say Tyree
Speaker 3: sounds of love making. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And
Speaker 3: then Tank plays don't Go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a win for Don't Go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a win for Tank. This is gonna be interesting,
Speaker 1: though it's not as much as I funk with Tyree. Uh.
Speaker 2: Tanks Catalog is just it's too deep, it's too active,
Speaker 2: Like it's still gonna be interesting. Like if I'm Tyree,
Speaker 2: and I want to make this clear, I'm not disrespecting Tyree.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably an underrated singer and artist with
Speaker 2: what he's given us. By round fifteen, I'm gonna start
Speaker 2: playing fast and furious clips though, Like I don't think
Speaker 2: people realize tanks tanks catalog.
Speaker 1: That's but that's why I like this, Like once you're
Speaker 1: getting the.
Speaker 2: Hooks and not to say tyss don't have crazy hook
Speaker 2: tanks to I don't know, man tanks just different than me.
Speaker 2: No tank tank like a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 2: it's gonna perform a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people don't know. Tank got he got a
Speaker 3: lot of hits. But Tyree's got hits too.
Speaker 1: Though, who brings out genuine to do TGT? How do
Speaker 1: they how do they bake that in? Mm hmm? I
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know if genu Wine comes out.
Speaker 2: Though, if they recreate what they did on Good Morning America,
Speaker 2: I would love to see that. Like if we get
Speaker 2: if we give Genuine, like I don't know, three Molly's
Speaker 2: and a little bit of coke, we get up a
Speaker 2: great time t G t or LSG, TGT okay, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of it's kind of not close. It's kind
Speaker 2: of not close. Yeah, you got a crazy hit there,
Speaker 2: but not go through the TGT catalog.
Speaker 1: Go through those. They got some joints.
Speaker 2: Am I the only one that remembers Uh Genuine being
Speaker 2: coked up out of his mind during that performance.
Speaker 1: He wasn't coked up. He said he had mental I
Speaker 1: here for mental health.
Speaker 3: No, no, he had taken I think they said we
Speaker 3: took a five hour energy drink or something like that,
Speaker 3: and I think he didn't eat or something, and then
Speaker 3: the lights being baking on him on the show.
Speaker 1: CAEP, bring that clip public. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2: Listen, I could see it have been TGT Good Morning America.
Speaker 2: You can I have taken I've drinking Celsius, a red Bull,
Speaker 2: taking five hour energies.
Speaker 1: I've not eaten. I have never in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you've never done that.
Speaker 3: It hain't been on Good Morning America with the lights
Speaker 3: Bacon on your skull.
Speaker 2: The funniest shit about this entire club is like maybe
Speaker 2: three quarters the way through, you can see Tank on
Speaker 2: the piano trying to hold his laughs back, like tak
Speaker 2: is trying not to laugh while he's on the fucking keys.
Speaker 3: He was fucked up whatever he was on. He was
Speaker 3: geeking off that shit.
Speaker 2: Well, I know you're only taking Molly once, but for
Speaker 2: people that have taken it like a lot, sometimes you
Speaker 2: start chewing the side of your cheek. I can see
Speaker 2: a chewed cheek from a mile away. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: chewed cheek. That's not five hour energy, that's a chewed
Speaker 2: ass cheek. I know what it's like to be up
Speaker 2: for three days on Molly, just tweaking like.
Speaker 1: You just turn it.
Speaker 2: Tyre's had to get out of his chair, just so
Speaker 2: hoping that the cameras would distract from Genuine and sitting
Speaker 2: there off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me take the spotlight. Let me get some
Speaker 3: of this light off, my guy.
Speaker 1: And if you've heard this song, Tank just takes all
Speaker 1: Genuine's parts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had to but they spoke about this though.
Speaker 3: They after and all left about it. Genuine I spoke
Speaker 3: about this too, but this was a classic.
Speaker 2: I think it was like a TMZ clip shot that
Speaker 2: before they all sat down and talk about it. I
Speaker 2: think they caught genuine the next day he's like, hey man,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you're tired, like, all right, but this verse.
Speaker 3: Is gonna be dope though, this ver's gonna be do
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, I'm definitely with you.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of R and B, I don't like that
Speaker 2: that that Usher wasn't clocking that.
Speaker 1: That JB was standing on business. Sometimes you gotta clop
Speaker 1: the business. That's the verses we need right now. Sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 3: See when JB like, no, we need we needed we
Speaker 3: that's the verses that already happened. That we need to
Speaker 3: see the footage of Justin Bieber and Usher. That's the verses.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: That picture that came out with a correct Peter that
Speaker 3: was that was because I thought I thought I said
Speaker 3: Be grabbed Usher by his lapel like that. I thought
Speaker 3: that was crazy. Beyonce in THEE Yeah that.
Speaker 1: Was crazy.
Speaker 2: Well if that wasn't Ai though, that would be on
Speaker 2: a billboard, like that would have.
Speaker 3: Been the funniest spot. And I thought about that, I'm
Speaker 3: like that, can't that? Can I should have known that
Speaker 3: was Ai because I mean, everybody at the fucking gold
Speaker 3: party has phones. Yeah, things like that like that, we
Speaker 3: would have gotten footage of that.
Speaker 1: Your brother was there, yeah, like he would have called you.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, getting getting Usher Usha getting his lapel wrinkled
Speaker 3: by Justin Bieber, Like we would have gotten real footage
Speaker 3: of that. So but that's the verses we need. We
Speaker 3: need to know exactly what happened, what was said, what
Speaker 3: was on What do you think that was about?
Speaker 1: Though I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to the terrible part of
Speaker 2: the internet brain of things that have been accused that
Speaker 2: happened to Justin Bieber as a kid, and we know
Speaker 2: the Usher was with Puff and then Puff was like
Speaker 2: I want to stay away.
Speaker 1: I don't think it had anything to do with that.
Speaker 1: But you know that was the comet pizza of course,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that Justin was finally talking to Usher of like, yo,
Speaker 1: you put me in a situation. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was that at all.
Speaker 2: Oh think sometimes when when JB gets the spirits in him,
Speaker 2: he goes a little nuts.
Speaker 3: Do you think he had something to do with maybe
Speaker 3: Biaber not being happy that Usher's probably still making money
Speaker 3: off of him, like business dealings. It might be some
Speaker 3: of that, the formalities, the business formalities, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Also sometimes you just got to sit there and be like, well,
Speaker 2: it's not a bad deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean if you you can sign a
Speaker 3: bad deal when you're fucking twelve years old being a
Speaker 3: full h.
Speaker 1: My dad and my mom like, why why he's this bullshit?
Speaker 1: I mean it's a usher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Especially at that time, Usher was you know, he's still
Speaker 3: a huge star, but sixteen eighteen years ago, yeah, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, I mean, at that time,
Speaker 3: you know, this is ushered and Bieber obviously had a
Speaker 3: lot of talent, and it was, you know, it was
Speaker 3: a good thing to kind of be up under Usher.
Speaker 3: I think that now, you know, Bieber's probably looking back like,
Speaker 3: all right, doog like I still just I'm still paying you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's probably more so what it was.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we have real facts here, sources, Okay, sources,
Speaker 2: we have the sources said to have Flick should do
Speaker 2: a dock on sources. Yeah, I want to meet sources.
Speaker 2: We got to meet sources. Love sources.
Speaker 1: Let me see sources. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So sources says they witnessed the feud. Of course, a
Speaker 2: source always witnessed some shit. Said Usher reacted angrily when
Speaker 2: Justin brushed him off in the same way he has
Speaker 2: for a while now, same source claims from those closer
Speaker 2: to Usher, a closer source, from his perspective, that's a
Speaker 2: level of loyalty and gratitude that hasn't been reciprocated. Furthermore,
Speaker 2: the distance between them has come off as dismissive and disrespectful.
Speaker 2: So does that make Justin the aggressor or the other
Speaker 2: way around?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because.
Speaker 2: Ushers, if he's dismissing, I'm like, I don't even want
Speaker 2: to speak to you. To me, that would be Usher
Speaker 2: grabbing his lapel, like, no, come here.
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to me. You're my son. Let's let's
Speaker 1: start there. Yeah. But I mean, clearly the source is
Speaker 1: giving us stuff. We already know.
Speaker 2: Usher played a key role in Justin and getting his
Speaker 2: stars in the history there matters and whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people view things differently from their childhood.
Speaker 1: Then you may.
Speaker 2: View when you were an adult for sure, And I'm
Speaker 2: not I want to make this co I'm not saying
Speaker 2: a Usher weird shit that they talk about the internet.
Speaker 2: I was saying, yeah, I know, Justin got older and
Speaker 2: probably look back and maybe maybe you didn't handle my
Speaker 2: business the best way.
Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't.
Speaker 2: I think there could be resentment there, and Usher's probably
Speaker 2: looking at it.
Speaker 1: Like this was the music business? What did you now?
Speaker 1: You're not even gonna speak to me or.
Speaker 3: You know, Usher's been trying to have a conversation about it,
Speaker 3: and Justin doesn't want to talk to them, like you said,
Speaker 3: brushing them off. I could see, you know, Usher kind
Speaker 3: of like grabbing them up like yo, like nah, were
Speaker 3: talking like let's have this conversation. Because when they said
Speaker 3: they had a a whatever they said, there was, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe some yelling. It doesn't have to be like some crazy.
Speaker 3: It could just be like yo, let me talk to
Speaker 3: you like you be like fuck you, like I don't
Speaker 3: want to talk to you. And then that turns into
Speaker 3: Justter and Justin Bieber and Usher had a feud at
Speaker 3: the goal part and it was literally like yo, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to talk to you. My guess was less
Speaker 1: than that. My guess it could have been nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people just looked like they speak aggressively and
Speaker 2: you're at the goal part, the music's playing. The source
Speaker 2: could have just been walking by and was like, it
Speaker 2: kind of look like they're arguing. Yeah, because that's happened
Speaker 2: to me where it's like, yo, y'all was arguing.
Speaker 3: No, no, just having a passionate Yeah, just having a
Speaker 3: loud discussion.
Speaker 1: At each other. So I think this is nothing. I think.
Speaker 2: I don't even like my speculation. I really don't think
Speaker 2: anything is wrong. I think they just maybe were having
Speaker 2: a disagreement and that's it was what it was.
Speaker 3: So how do we feel about now? Justin tim Blake
Speaker 3: is confused that he's a white guy. Did you see that?
Speaker 3: I told y'all he had too much soul to be
Speaker 3: a white guy.
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't believe. It's another thing I said years ago.
Speaker 1: Nobody believe me. I tried to tell you. I mean,
Speaker 1: in his defense, he got blacker.
Speaker 3: The video came out of his dwirest in the Hamptons
Speaker 3: years ago, rough week for the whites. Would you arrest
Speaker 3: Justin Tim Blake if you pulled him over in the
Speaker 3: Hampton's and you could tell he was a little like intoxicated,
Speaker 3: because I don't think I would here.
Speaker 1: Here's where corruption would.
Speaker 2: Definitely take place. I want to make it very clear.
Speaker 2: I do not agree with drunk driving. It has led
Speaker 2: to a lot of terrible things. If I'm in the
Speaker 2: Hampton's on a dirt road and Justin Timberlake gets out
Speaker 2: his car and I don't have a lot of calls
Speaker 2: that night of keeping the Hampton safe, there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of cloths in Hamptons. I may look at my
Speaker 2: partner and go, you drive his car. I'll drive the
Speaker 2: cruiser behind you.
Speaker 1: Let's take it, and let's get Justin Timberlake back that
Speaker 1: which is fucked up. I want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: I identify that we shouldn't give celebrities privileges like that,
Speaker 2: and they shouldn't be above the law. But if I'm
Speaker 2: in the Hamptons and Justin Timberlake's driving ten miles an
Speaker 2: hour down a dirt road, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 2: taking Justin Timberlake to jail. I'm just trying to be honest.
Speaker 2: I know everyone that's way more amazing than me listening
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Is like you can't do that. You can do the
Speaker 1: same thing. You turn a body camels No, I got
Speaker 1: to put it in the group chat the homies guy
Speaker 1: it I just rolled over Justin simply.
Speaker 3: Not it was on a body cam. You get in
Speaker 3: trouble for that. If you take them home, you're supposed
Speaker 3: to wrest them that.
Speaker 1: You know how much corruption probably happens in the Hamptons. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you might have to turn that body
Speaker 1: cam off though. Yeah, you know, I me times at
Speaker 1: the Murdock household. They probably turned their body they turned
Speaker 1: their ring camp. So not only turning your body cam
Speaker 1: off in the Hamptons is that crazy? Not only you
Speaker 1: get back to your officers.
Speaker 3: Turn that ring cam off real quick, man, let's turn
Speaker 3: that off real quick. We can handle this right here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, more footage leaked from I believe that was
Speaker 2: last summer, right, because there was footage that leaked where
Speaker 2: where Justin was like, do I got to get to
Speaker 2: my tour? Yeah, which was hilarious. But in the precinct
Speaker 2: you saw Justin reading his paperwork after he had one martini.
Speaker 1: Just it's always one one bed one martini, It's always one.
Speaker 1: And he looked at his paperwork and said white.
Speaker 2: Tough crowd, like you're you're working with a very cold
Speaker 2: audience at that point, because I would have busted out laughing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't got to be so serious. The officer
Speaker 3: is trying to be said, I wouldn't have invested on.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure he had to pause blown at that
Speaker 2: point because you start, you start joking after you've yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm called so.
Speaker 1: Let me it is what it is like. All Right,
Speaker 1: I'm a little intoxicated. I get it, but I have fun.
Speaker 2: I'm not not proud of it, but I have. I
Speaker 2: have been arrested for a DUI before you was scared. No,
Speaker 2: So I don't want to say in my defense because
Speaker 2: there is no real defense for drinking and driving. I
Speaker 2: fell asleep at my friend's dorm. He was taking summer
Speaker 2: classes at Saint Peter's. I was living at my godfather's
Speaker 2: Jersey City to uh. I don't want to say the
Speaker 2: time where my godfather lives, but it's it's not very
Speaker 2: far and I was living at his house. I went
Speaker 2: to sleep like I slept. We were drinking that night,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you've been in shitty commuter
Speaker 2: style dorms the small couch is probably the size of
Speaker 2: this table of where I was sleeping. I woke up
Speaker 2: at like seven am, like I'm getting the fuck out
Speaker 2: of here. I slept enough, get in the car, get
Speaker 2: pulled over on the side of the Jersey Turnpike. And
Speaker 2: this this was the the year of like cargos with
Speaker 2: cement threes. Tom So I'm literally like walking. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've seen the Jersey Turnpike. It has a
Speaker 2: slope on the side. I do walk in a straight
Speaker 2: line on a slope and do this at the same
Speaker 2: fucking time. And the cops said to me, after I'd
Speaker 2: done everything, ABC's the whole fucking thing. He said, you
Speaker 2: do realize we're gonna do this until you fail.
Speaker 1: I said, well, until you fail.
Speaker 2: A verbatim quote, verbatim quote. You realize we're going to
Speaker 2: keep doing this until you fail. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: then just put me in cuffs.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was struck until you fail crazy.
Speaker 2: So I leave my nineteen ninety three Chevy Malibu on
Speaker 2: the side of the fucking getting cuffs back of the cruiser.
Speaker 2: My dumb ass is again. I had just turned twenty one.
Speaker 2: I had maybe been twenty one for two weeks. At
Speaker 2: this point, I said, in my arrogant twenty one year
Speaker 2: old I said, man, I slept. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: refuse because I know if you refuse, you lose your
Speaker 2: license for three months. No matter what, to blow, I said,
Speaker 2: give me that shit, bro, Well you asked for it,
Speaker 2: you get Do you have the option because you could
Speaker 2: No matter what, if you refuse, you still lose your
Speaker 2: license for three months. If you get a DUI, then
Speaker 2: it's it's it's definitely more of like a maximum bullshit.
Speaker 1: It probably shit hit perfect that point. O.
Speaker 2: Wait, Like I even tried to do the tricks, like
Speaker 2: when you're drunk and you're in like Justin's situation when
Speaker 2: he's sitting there like they just had a martini, Like
Speaker 2: you really think in an arrogant drunk state that you're fine.
Speaker 2: I was like pretending to blow pause and they were like,
Speaker 2: you do realize every drunk person tries to do this.
Speaker 2: You're not that smart, Like this is a machine. If
Speaker 2: you read I know you think you're doing something like
Speaker 2: it was an asshole, but he was very much honest.
Speaker 1: I was like, we know you're.
Speaker 2: Not You're not blowing, so I'm sitting there like, that's
Speaker 2: not going to get it done. If you're gonna do this,
Speaker 2: you've already committed do it. That ship hit point oh
Speaker 2: eight on the fucking mark.
Speaker 3: That is some scary shit, though, to get pulled over
Speaker 3: and like you have to do like a field test.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're just anytime you get pulled over, period, even
Speaker 2: as a white person, I only imagine someone else.
Speaker 1: You're you're nervous regardless when you see those lights.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't even thinking the ship because I wasn't
Speaker 2: drunk in my head, which I again, I know advocate
Speaker 2: for the ship, but I thought I slept enough hours
Speaker 2: and I was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which was not the case. But I had to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: One time we was driving from LA to Vegas and
Speaker 3: they pulled us over.
Speaker 1: That's a rough place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they pulled us over, so I was, but we
Speaker 3: were smoking. So when he pulled it over, they smell
Speaker 3: weed in the car. So they made they made me
Speaker 3: get out. So I just always remember, I said I
Speaker 3: because he was like, I got to follow this pen,
Speaker 3: follow the ball point of my pen.
Speaker 1: This, that, and the third.
Speaker 3: All I kept saying to myself was you have to
Speaker 3: over exaggerate the eye movement that's all I remember saying, like, Yo,
Speaker 3: just over exaggerate, make it seem like you're so locked.
Speaker 3: And I was looking at the pen when he had
Speaker 3: it by his side, like he was just holding it
Speaker 3: right hand.
Speaker 1: I'm just staring at it.
Speaker 3: I was just over exaggerating. So then he he's moving
Speaker 3: the pin like this, so I'm going my eyes going.
Speaker 3: So then he gets to the center, like your nose.
Speaker 3: I just said that, let me make my eyes as
Speaker 3: cross eyed as possible. And then he was like, yo, listen, man,
Speaker 3: just kind of keep it keeping under eighty.
Speaker 1: And I was like, keep it under eighty. I mean
Speaker 1: but between la, Yeah, when you make.
Speaker 3: That, you know when you hit that, when you hit that,
Speaker 3: that hit open and it's just like I said, Bro's
Speaker 3: nobody else on the road.
Speaker 1: It's just like an open road. Hilarious. Bro. But we
Speaker 1: was losing that car smoking.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about burning it down during that ride, and
Speaker 3: I was like, when they pull me over, I just
Speaker 3: knew I was going to jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I never I beat my d U.
Speaker 2: I how like I'm I'm the.
Speaker 1: OJ of d U. I s for sure like I
Speaker 1: blue point. I don't think I beat the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think that's you don't want to
Speaker 3: be the oj of d UIs you don't. You don't
Speaker 3: want that on your juice, baby, No, you don't want that.
Speaker 2: The juice is loose. That's how I walked down the
Speaker 2: court building. The juices loose. This is for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2: I'm lying right now, Okay, I want to make this guy.
Speaker 1: I'm lying. None of this is true what I'm about
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: So I got a d UI fax like this isn't
Speaker 2: refusal where there's some I got a du I do
Speaker 2: point o A. You are arrested. You have to go
Speaker 2: to court to face your d UI ship. The prosecutor
Speaker 2: in Newark at the time was my frat brother.
Speaker 1: So I'll, you know, I make a call. Just which
Speaker 1: camera peace? This is?
Speaker 2: This is all lie. I'm making all of this up.
Speaker 2: This is for entertainment purposes. I called my frat brother.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I got a d He said, all right,
Speaker 2: that's that's my court room. I got you, prosecutor. So
Speaker 2: the girl I'm dating at the time is also interning
Speaker 2: at the Newark courthouse. I used to like just visit
Speaker 2: her at the new courthouse when she was there. And
Speaker 2: there was an Alpha, which is another fraternity shouts to
Speaker 2: the alphas. I love the alphas, except for this redacted word.
Speaker 2: He was trying to fuck the girl that I was dating.
Speaker 2: He finds out that with my DUI that the prosecutor
Speaker 2: is my fraternity brother. Mind you, I made this fraternity
Speaker 2: brother even though he was older than me. He joined
Speaker 2: an alumni chapter. This is all lie by the way,
Speaker 2: he joined alumni chapter. I made him, so he's a
Speaker 2: little brother to me even though he's twice my age.
Speaker 2: The alpha finds out snitches to the judge who's in
Speaker 2: AKA and she makes a scene in the courtroom. I
Speaker 2: would never even do this for my sorority sisters. I
Speaker 2: believe in the fraternity sorority, but never above the law.
Speaker 2: So I get thrown into the court system of people
Speaker 2: that have family members that are part of the court,
Speaker 2: because that's like a corruption, Like if your family work
Speaker 2: in the court, you got to be in a separate system.
Speaker 1: So they put me in that shit.
Speaker 2: I go to court, I'm not exaggerating every Thursday for
Speaker 2: six months. The cop never shows up. He gets arrested
Speaker 2: as one of like the biggest.
Speaker 1: Scandals in NJ.
Speaker 2: State Trooper history, and my case gets thrown out on
Speaker 2: top of the corruption charge they were trying to do
Speaker 2: with my fraternity brother who almost got arrested as a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: I feel like you got to be white for that
Speaker 1: shit to happen to you.
Speaker 2: Everyone in the courses I'm talking about is black except
Speaker 2: for me. I want to make that claim.
Speaker 1: Nobody was a white aka everybody's blackness but me. And
Speaker 1: this is a story I made up for funny entertainment.
Speaker 1: This is true, but yeah, that was the story of
Speaker 1: my yo. That was the story of my do you
Speaker 1: hus For six months?
Speaker 2: Every Thursday, I'd go in and every time they'd ask
Speaker 2: you who. It's like a formality which family member works
Speaker 2: in our court system, and I never had an answer.
Speaker 2: I was like I had to like sit there and explain.
Speaker 2: I was like, so my frat brother and these are
Speaker 2: people that are not in fraternities. I'm just sitting there
Speaker 2: like an idiot. So it's like my frat brother. And
Speaker 2: then the judge and they were like okay, And then
Speaker 2: they'd asked the plaintiff, is the cop here? Nope, And
Speaker 2: I never knew why he wouldn't show up. That shit
Speaker 2: was getting expensive for me.
Speaker 1: Too. I didn't have much money, my car, my Chevy Malibu.
Speaker 1: After that broke down, I'm taking the bus from t Neck,
Speaker 1: New Jersey to Newark, which is a fucking nightmare every Thursday,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why won't like I just let me
Speaker 1: face the music.
Speaker 2: Can this cop comes so I could just get my
Speaker 2: fucking go to my DUI classes, pay these fines.
Speaker 1: Listen there. I didn't know he was under investigation, and
Speaker 1: that's why he never showed up. So all of his
Speaker 1: cases got thrown out.
Speaker 2: Like, I have no idea how many how many innocent
Speaker 2: men were let out of prison the same day that
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, so the arresting officer is no longer.
Speaker 1: Where the force. All these cases are thrown out. I
Speaker 1: walked out that ship like Lucky Lucky the Iris to
Speaker 1: the point that Lucky the Irish my quarter appointed lawyers
Speaker 1: stopped showing up to that's fucking crazy. I would have
Speaker 1: been in prison for sure. That was me. Yeah, dy
Speaker 1: lock him up. So I mean, in a sense, I
Speaker 1: feel justin when you look at your paperwork, it be
Speaker 1: like white not me, but never me. I'm a cat
Speaker 1: but not white.
Speaker 3: Before we wrap up the worry, I do want to
Speaker 3: say rest in peace to the legendary Chuck Norris. We
Speaker 3: lost Chuck Chuck Norris over the weekend legend and everything. Now,
Speaker 3: can I listen respectfully prayers to Chuck Norris and his family.
Speaker 3: Condolences to his family. But let's just I'm gonna actually
Speaker 3: we're not on a podcast right now. Can I just
Speaker 3: say something to the room. I thought Chuck Norris was
Speaker 3: already dead. Really, I thought he had died like five
Speaker 3: years ago. Okay, I felt like we had got news that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's one of those internet things
Speaker 3: where they killed celebrities all the time, Navy.
Speaker 1: Chuck was a part of that.
Speaker 3: I think Chuck got caught up in that one year
Speaker 3: and I just kind of believed it. I thought I
Speaker 3: thought it was real, and so that's when they announced it.
Speaker 3: I was like, I thought Chuck Norris passed away years
Speaker 3: But now we're back on the podcast. Yes, but Chuck Norris,
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris passed away. Legendary actor, you know, in every
Speaker 3: sense of the word. I can't remember not watching a
Speaker 3: movie growing up and not seeing Chuck Norris on my TV.
Speaker 2: I mean, kind of the way we all treat law
Speaker 2: and order and now is how I treated Walker Texas Ranger, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that's just on the TV.
Speaker 3: Now, Delta Force was my ship. You ever see Delta Force? Look, Ryan,
Speaker 3: you don't even know. You don't even know the legend
Speaker 3: that Chuck is.
Speaker 1: Look at you that that he's in the one scene Dodgeball.
Speaker 1: You don't know Dodgeball.
Speaker 2: Delta for episode was a Walker Texas Ranger. That's like
Speaker 2: two Pac songs. I'm sure they have like unreleased Walker Texas.
Speaker 1: Ranger episodes for sure.
Speaker 3: Game of Death like this is Chuck is a legend
Speaker 3: man every sense of the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's who how many? How many? Even SAG thinks
Speaker 1: this may how many movies does that Chuck Norris have?
Speaker 3: Uh in his discography? I just want to I just
Speaker 3: want to know how many movies Chuck Norrison.
Speaker 1: I don't even think this this. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is underselling. There's no way thirty seven he did that
Speaker 1: in one year? You can't, yea. I think he probably
Speaker 1: had thirty seven this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chuck Norris has more than thirty seven movies, and.
Speaker 1: It's you know, we just didn't really see them at
Speaker 1: least thirty four. No way, I'm not jacking AI on
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah. Nah, Chuck Norris has done more than
Speaker 1: thirty four movies, but definitely rest in peace to rest
Speaker 1: the piece to the legend. Chuck Norris, thank you for
Speaker 1: Delta Force changed my childhood.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I know you don't get to decide
Speaker 2: if people put out headlines saying you had like an
Speaker 2: emergency or a health scare, but don't do that. Just
Speaker 2: wait till I'm dead or not. Because I saw that
Speaker 2: during the day, like Chuck Norris has an emergency scare.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, just announce when I'm dead. I don't
Speaker 1: like that that shit.
Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, well, thank you guys for coming
Speaker 3: in today. We made it as a family. If you're traveling,
Speaker 3: please be safe in these airports. I guess you can
Speaker 3: bring a pillow with you and sleep at the airport
Speaker 3: in some cities.
Speaker 1: I know we started the episode with it, but I
Speaker 1: do want to close and humble myself. Those tickets are
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars for good seats, jay Z ticket. What
Speaker 1: can you do for us?
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't do shit. I let people know off top,
Speaker 3: I can't even nothing for you. Either you're gonna pay
Speaker 3: that price or hopefully they stream it, catch it on
Speaker 3: live stream.
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't like just just follow bigs in.
Speaker 3: Nah, not a Yankee stadium. That security measure is different.
Speaker 2: What if we posed as acid security, but we could
Speaker 2: be like Chuck Norris type, like we're not the big
Speaker 2: security guards we like we know Taekwon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had such a special set of skills though too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nah, not happening. I mean, yo, they got tickets
Speaker 1: going for like four hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars, which again I'm not mad at up there, which
Speaker 2: is fine to me, to be quite honest, Like just
Speaker 2: to be there fore, inn bucks, I would probably be that, yeah,
Speaker 2: just to be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. Maybe you're trying to be
Speaker 1: on third baseline though, now you gonna play.
Speaker 3: If you're trying to be down there with a rod,
Speaker 3: that's gonna cost you a little, a little pretty penny.
Speaker 2: But you know, I might just start scamming people like
Speaker 2: Game does in his DMS and just just raise the money.
Speaker 2: Game got four thousand dollars for some random guy, Like, yo,
Speaker 2: everyone's send me your music is fifty dollars, So I
Speaker 2: can raise money.
Speaker 1: To buy jay Z ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, but fuck it, somehow, somewhere, we got to
Speaker 3: find a way to get in it.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: That's a great show. I see what you do how someway.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you know, don't make it out of
Speaker 3: the hood with one day, we'll make it out the hood.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm
Speaker 1: that nigga. He's just ginger peace.
Speaker 3: No Wi