WEBVTT - Episode 135 | "Do The Knowledge!" w/ MAVI 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:14.640 Ligitly like ligitly, like who is it? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.160 Them? Kept saying big vicelt ship. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:24.560 Yeah it was awesome, awesome, yeah advice. Wait wait, wait, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.840 that's an old nigga game. There are no there are 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.240 no twenty year old vice Lord. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:33.360 No. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.519 I said about Latin Kings, Like that's true, Like, bro, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.840 there's no twenty five year old Latin Kings. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:40.000 Bro. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.159 Gen's looking at old outside of New York. Gen is 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.800 an old nigga gang too. Like I've seen the picture 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.479 of Mike em stowing up GD and I literally was 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.239 crying laught. But like, wait five minutes, my girls like 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.440 stop just making it weird. And I'm just kind of like, bro, Mike, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.200 It's like yeah, yeah, he's one side of that. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:02.640 I like, bro, what are you talking about? 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.040 They don't even put niggas on them gangs gangs no more. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.880 All the ship is closed, all the clothes right now. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.919 All the new gangs are just like they're all names. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.760 All the names are like arithmetic, like yeah, they're all numbers. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.000 They're like ten seventeen g side eight four. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:19.520 All right. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.600 I'm not good at math, so I don't know that 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.120 was That was from late eighty ship. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.600 Name of ship ship like the Vice Lords. Yeah. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.600 Ship, like, bro, like what are we doing that ship? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.560 Like it's got a holy text the like, like you 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:36.720 got to read the literature? 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.960 Yeah, Like, nig give me a switch, bro, let's track 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:43.800 it man. Yeah yeah, I don't read the book the 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:44.880 gang Bang. I don't need to. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:46.600 Yeah, I know the basics. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.480 Bro. If I was going to read a book, I 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.800 probably wouldn't. Your gang they just let me gang man. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.440 Yeah, they'd be like, yo, you gotta know your history. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.280 No, y'all in the same penitentiary. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:58.880 I could just come. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:03.120 Over there some one of y'all. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.680 Yo, let's still don't know. Oh this niggas like fifty Yeah, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:12.840 we all in rison again. Yeah, it's a nigga. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.800 With the Coofye. He's like, we're gonna talk to him 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:15.360 in the yard, bro. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.400 And the history, It's like, why would I read the 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.480 text when the motherfucker that wrote the text is my selly? 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:21.799 Right? 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.320 If I was if I was trying to join the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.160 club with a bunch of niggas and a bunch of 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.760 guns to read a bunch of books. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.720 I would be a black panther. Yeah, I would not 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.600 be not be whatever the fuck? You know what I'm saying, y'o, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:37.359 what's up man? 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.399 You know what it is, man's victory like were here. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.560 We have a very special guest in the building to day. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:43.840 Yes, sir, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.080 We got North carolized findings. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:46.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.480 Arlotte is in the motherfucker building. Just bought on like 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:49.000 a mellow. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.840 You know what I'm saying. That was a bar old man. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:53.080 I'm gonna spit it myself. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.880 You know what I'm saying. Mom's in the building today. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.520 What I'm saying, motherfucker noise. 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:57.639 Got damny that right, baby? 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.880 You know what I'm saying, Mommy and building. You don't 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:01.200 really know. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.120 We joined by the by the usual suspects. May welcome, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.040 Welcome to and watch it. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.519 Thank you, thank you for having me. I love it here. Yeah, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.160 I'm figuring it out. Yeah. I used to hate New York. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.600 Oh yeah, because it's because I lived here during the 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.560 pandemic and it was like super trash. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:17.359 The worst time to be here. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.360 Really, because as a New York native, I thought it 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:23.919 was the best time to be here. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:24.880 No, for me, it was. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.160 Amazing because we're in the credit. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.200 But imagine visiting New York and then having to say 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:28.560 it's tide. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.320 The only thing good was the credit card fraud. Nothing 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:32.840 else was. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:38.560 Funs everything was everything was going now, everything was good. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.520 I liked it as a graffiti writer. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.560 Ye, It's like I could go outside at like eight 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.560 o'clock at night and it was nobody Like I was 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.000 just doing I feel like I was playing the video 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.320 game The Mark Echo video games, just tagging it up 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.560 and broad Day like this is fun. But if you're 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.640 visiting bro and like you just get here and there's 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.200 nobody outside, there's no motion, there's no activity, you know 0:03:59.200 --> 0:03:59.640 what I'm saying. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.320 As the best thing about the pandemic was the Cross 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:08.520 Bronx Expressway being completely dead at four thirty pm. That 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.119 was something I never thought i'd see in my lifetime. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.360 Brod Like, it's fast, You're like, yo, this is crazy. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.160 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm on there, I'm 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.159 on there, bumping meante like you know. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.479 What I'm saying, Like maybe maybe I could run up 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:21.160 a play right now. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.360 It ain't no traffic. I'm saying, Oh my god, you 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.880 happen to half an hour? Yeah? 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.440 What makes me come back to New York though? 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.479 Work man? 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.479 Yeah? 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.800 Hip hop nice. I like. I like New York. I 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.880 like it. My dad's a five percent word. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.919 Oh we're god so like we some catching niggas that 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.479 enjoyed New York stuff. Yeah, I love I love it here. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.320 The food is good, the people are cool. I think 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.080 New York people are nicer than LA people. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.560 Yeah that's you see, that's I've heard. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:54.440 I've heard it said. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.360 I forgot who said it, but uh, in New York, like, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.559 if somebody want to tell you a go fuck yourself, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.160 they'll tell you to go fuck yourself. In LA, if 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.120 somebody want to tell you to go fuck yourself, they'll say, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:04.880 let's do lunch. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.880 It's like it's very fank for a better word. You know, yeah, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.400 it's definitely a lot of bullshit. It's like, yeah, what 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.960 do you Yeah, what do you do? So cool? 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.080 I feel like New York is very much like I 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.000 don't know if it's a bronze thing or just general 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.240 New York City energy where it's like, oh shit, that's 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.440 my v but like, I'll see you crossing across the street. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.200 I could be the biggest fan in the world. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.120 The most you gonna get out of me is yeah, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.440 it's to go over there, ask for Sophie and Dick, right, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:38.080 that's crazy. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.919 It's one of two things, Like with New York niggas, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:41.760 it's like either like. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.680 Oh ship yeah, salute, oh yeah. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.560 And then like I'm checking out my stuff and they're like, yo, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:47.640 yeah we fuck with you. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.479 I appreciate it. You'd be saved here, or. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.160 It's like your own god son, I poke a nigga, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:58.280 he fuck with you out. There's something about me as 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.040 a nigga, like I guess I'm a sweetie. A lot 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.160 of niggas like want me to know that they would 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.760 do an active violence on my behalf. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:12.320 Like yo, broo bro point point him out. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.440 I'm like, no, bro, I'm not. You know, it's crazy. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.880 But as as somebody like as as someone who also 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.359 like makes music and ship bro, you'd be surprised, like 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.159 how how many people don't feel heard until they hear 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.600 you and. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.880 They're like, yo, he really know me, And it's. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.359 Like, Yo, you saved my life, so now I would 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.960 do anything for you ship you know. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:35.560 Yeah. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.760 Yeah, It's like it's good because like you could be 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.800 a baby coat leader like this and. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:41.440 I like that. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.200 Yeah yeah, I look at like yeah, all you have 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.839 to do is rap and then you get a hair them. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.200 You know what I'm saying, You get an armed guard 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.080 by Yeah, you know you can get deep yo, yo. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.039 Next album, the Book of Mob. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:57.640 Mob Bro. We're gonna all. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:02.600 Move into like a fucking. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.120 Yeah, it's gonna be nice. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.440 Y'all all got swe like the full body. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.040 Yeah, it's gonna be belore. Yeah. Yeah, that's the uniform. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.680 It's the baby fat track suit for the shorties, you 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:12.960 know what I mean. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.680 And plate shoes like the plate socks. We don't walk 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:16.320 around with them. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:16.720 Yeah. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.680 Yeah, it's gonna be Vie. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.520 With the grip, full risk. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.480 Okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.440 Whenever you come down here though, like is this something 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.840 that like like a certain spot or like certain people 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.800 that you're like, Yo, I gotta go check my folks out, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.400 or this spot. I gotta go get a meal from 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:34.880 so and so. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.360 Yeah. I go to like. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:44.640 Lambs a Lot Orchard, Dommy Stevie got the Shop. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.720 I love it out there. I go to like Daily Paper. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.720 I go to like Tony Souson Studio pretty much every time. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.320 Where shout out Tony Tony pinball too. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:57.040 Oh all right. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.160 I go to a bunch of museums though, like I 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.440 go to the Whitney Google, Yeah, party much every time. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:04.920 I'm a big museum nigga. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.400 Do you like because you know how they be like yo, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.760 you can donate whatever you want. Like some people be 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.080 like yo, here's a dollar nigga. That's young nigga. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.240 Math If you are twenty five years and younger, you 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.720 are a free member of the Whitney. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:19.720 Let that. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.280 Yeah, gotta let him know arts education nigga from Lobbie. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:29.280 So yeah, I'll be no, but I pay the r. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.800 But what's crazy is that as such a community driven person, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.080 I mean, for all the work you're doing with the kids, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.040 especially in the four right, like you would think that 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:40.959 you would be on some like oh no, you got 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:46.040 to give these institutions their paper so they can stay open. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.240 Like the nigga. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.280 Money man. Do you see the fundraiser it's on fucking ABC. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.760 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of money they don't need. They 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.760 don't need, they don't that's the ship. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.400 It's like niggas. I feel like people don't understand, like 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.080 the met Galla is a fundraiser. Yeah, like we're raising 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:06.840 money for this. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.720 This is not just like yo, we're cool clothes guys. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.559 Let's hang out and then like fine art is just 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.319 like rich nigga trading cards. Like some rich nigga was like, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.560 I just did fucking Heroin in the bathroom with John 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.920 Michelle Bosquiat and this nigga's hard and I'm finna put 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.199 this in my house. Then some other rich nigga as 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.880 some other heroin sex party at that rich nigga house, was. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:28.959 Like, what the fuck is that? 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.360 Yeah, he's like, Nigga, I just gave this young nigga. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.400 John Michelle Boska a quarter million dollars for this. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.480 That nigga calls John Michelle ba Like, Nigga, here's a 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.040 million dollars for that. That's how the art market works. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.040 Just like that makes sense. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.800 Ship that rich nigga seen at another rich nigga house 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.640 that he thought was cool. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.000 Really, that's the bro Holy shit. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.679 So this podcast is named Victory, like because I had 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.480 a blog that I wrote years. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.559 Ago, bro, when I was very very very very. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.760 Broken Violet, and I feel like this is a full 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.000 circle moment because I have to other than that then 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.840 I broke. But they're equally violent, you know what I'm 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.560 saying Young individuals that I'm like trying to close the loop. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.400 You know what I'm saying as the old loop of violence. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:07.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.400 Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:13.600 So you saying that, bro takes me back because I 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.960 wrote a whole essay about like, your fine art is bullshit. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.240 The art world is bullshit. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.680 It's really just like yo, yeah nah, this is because 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.240 I went to our basil. You don't remember the banana thing, yeah, 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:27.520 the banana tape to the wall. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.040 Oh yeah, bro, this is crazy, like this is. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.080 Like this is art that she used to give me 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.760 so mad because like as like you know, as a 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.079 good video artist. I'm like, yo, I go outside, I'm 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.520 spending mad time to do this sketch and then do 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.000 this and then that. I'm like, this is art, bro, y'all, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.199 y'all the graph, the graph, guys, especially y'all. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.400 I keep be risking y'all lives. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.040 That's that's a real, honest, like holy kind of way. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:51.360 To do art. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.800 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah when there's risk involved, right by 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.040 falling off some ship or go to jail. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:57.920 You feel me? 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.520 So you see my message? Yo, I was here and 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.679 I went over this other guy. He's pussy like. Sometimes 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.160 it's deep, it's like yo, you know, like free palacid. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.120 But sometimes it's just like yo, your man is pussy, 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.520 you know, Yeah, I want something. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.080 Niggas is really pissy. Like I can see. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.199 I can see if like we value art like okay, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.520 it costs me this many years to get nice, it 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.880 costs me this much in canvas, this much whatever, and 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.240 then like it would be a more equitable economy for 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:32.280 any nigga who nice. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.199 But you know it's trendy because like. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.000 I always say, like the best rapper ever is doing life, yeah, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.640 one hundred percent, oh dead Yeah, best hooper too, and 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.280 best painter too, Like the best painter is not getting 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.560 the best painter is not in the mat Yeah, yeah, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:49.400 if one exists. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.040 You know what, I didn't make this sh it up, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:51.640 but I've heard it. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.199 Talent don't give a fuck where it's born, you know 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.400 what I'm saying, or where it comes from the circumstances 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.199 that it's in. So to your point, there's a motherfucker 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.840 out right now that rap out wrap everybody in this building, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.120 right and that to. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.360 Get on someone on campbell ship. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:09.080 But this motherfuckers that touch right now, way, hold on, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.360 hold on, We're not doing that. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.720 We're not doing that. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:20.319 You speaking speaking of the art, and like how you saying, like, yo, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.320 the best artist is not gonna get his shine. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.200 How do you feel about this? 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:32.000 Like, I'm just it's a family graduat. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.200 In how do you how do you have the whole 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.520 eighth grade graduation about him? 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.360 Talk about kids right now? 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.640 Congratulations in the class of twenty thirty two. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:40.640 Shut y'all. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.319 Hey, Which, by the way, we were talking about this 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.120 before if we was holling take a point. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.640 But yeah, because you were talking because you you you 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.360 made a good point. So I figured now as good 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.720 a time as any to bring it up because you're 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.360 saying the best like artist, the best at anything is 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.040 not gonna get the shine or they're gonna they're gonna 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.280 die or go to jail or whatever. Right, So, how 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.079 do you feel about this recent obsession with like first 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.160 week sales and like numbers. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.800 And like how does that like you know what I mean? 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.560 Like between that, like because I feel like people are 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.080 misconstruing the tooth where it's like, if you're not selling 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.240 the crazy numbers, then your. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.559 Shit must not be good. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.080 And I think that metric is so dishonest. Yeah, So 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.719 like I just want to let your take on it. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:22.280 I think. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.240 I think one fucked up thing trend to cross the 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:28.840 entertainment is that. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.480 One of my favorite rappers is Draco the Ruler. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.880 He has a song he says how many times I 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.080 got to say, if you're a fan, just be a fan. Yeah, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.760 and so like so in wrestling, there was like this 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.400 thing in like the nineties called the man Shiero screw Drive, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.480 where like a nigga was supposed to like lose the 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.319 titles of the other nigga didn't want to do it. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.200 They ended up sucking him out of the title. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.600 Vince McMahon runs down everybody knows wrestling his faith. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.000 Yeah, So from. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.960 That day forward, the main drama on wrestling was not 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.680 what played out on screen. It was what we knew 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:05.600 about the wrestler is actual behind the scenes rivalries and dissatisfactions, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.520 and this guy's bringing in this much money to the company, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.880 so he should be the champion. And so I think 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.160 that is basically this fourth wall breaking kind of. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.360 Fandom is like kind of the. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.440 Flavor of the week as far as like today, So 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.800 I think that's it's the same thing. Like people are like, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.600 oh my god, my favorite pop diva isn't getting marketed. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.760 That's why she shouldn't have signed to this person. It's 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.040 just like I think y'all should shut the fuck up, honestly, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.040 Like do you know? 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:39.440 All right? 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.720 So I'm gona put it like this, So fifteen hundred 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.560 streams is like. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.880 Is like one sale, right, So for somebody. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.240 To do twenty thousands streams, they making a first I 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.720 mean twenty thousand sales. First week they got fifteen hundred streams, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.280 twenty thousand song across all them songs. Like, that's a 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.560 lot of fucking that's a lot of success. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:06.800 There's a lot of impact. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.240 And I think, like I miss when like there was 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.080 a time where you just had a CD with their 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.480 face on it, or if you had a van wrapped 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.480 with your face on it, if you had a music 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.480 video that people could watch. It's like, oh shit, that's real. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.920 That was official. I was watching It was like a 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.120 push A T and Mallice. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.000 Interview and they were talking about they had an album 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.000 that was supposed to come out on a lecture that 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.800 before Laura Willing that got cand or whatever, and the 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.080 interviewer basically asked them like, how did you feel about 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.080 your first single not doing what you thought it would 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.600 do or not being what you wanted it to be, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.400 and Push was like, Nigga, we shot a. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.960 Music video, right, Like that's huge. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.520 So I think like, yeah, I think the valuation needs 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.280 to go into like how in a black box of 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.800 me and this piece of art, how do I feel 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.720 not in the marketplace culturally or financially? 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.479 Yeah? 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:57.480 Literally, Like. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.000 The Internet has a lot to do with that too. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.080 When they get into this, it's like, bro, you can 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.240 just exist and enjoy what you like. Instead, people are 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.360 like they create this world where it's just like no, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.600 I have to fight for my favorite artist rights, even 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.160 down to like defending the bad shit that they do. Yes, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.600 it's a weird culture. Yeah, And it's like, realistically, can 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.160 you fill a room with twenty thousand people? You know, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.600 like the motherfuckers who's. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.400 Saying, Yo, you're trash. 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.840 You you only sold twenty, you only sold thirty, only 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.360 sold a hundred. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.560 It's like, remember what these numbers are in real time? 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.440 I've been trying to tell people all the time. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.800 I'm like, yo, if you think about it, like you said, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.960 like if you had a van wrap, if you had 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.920 a show somewhere, like back in the day, it was 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.720 very it was more like black and white. Now with 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.520 the streaming and everything, everything is like more abstract than 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.960 you got to find a way to make this equal that. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.760 But like to your point, BRO, back then, it was like, Yo, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.800 big pun albums coming out. It's going to this record store. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.800 You go there, you see him and it's like, Yo, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.400 it's like did the start I've just send sign and your. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:02.280 Sneakers or some shit like that. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.480 It's like, Yo, this this is crazy, Like this is 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.560 a real thing. And then you realize like the impact 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.359 that the artist has, Bro, because you go you go 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.399 to that record store, there's a line wrapped around the 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.639 block to see this one person just to get the 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.160 a CD sign, so ay for it, and then get 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.000 the shit sign. And then on the other side of 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.520 it too, it's like, Yo, this person's doing a show. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.480 It's a five thousand seater. They sold that bitch out 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.200 in five minutes. That means something, right, you know what 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:28.680 I'm saying? 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.440 Like, right, you know, whenever I whenever I like feel 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.600 weird about my art, I'm sure. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.440 You know exactly what I mean, Like, whenever I feel 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.080 weird about my art and I'm like, why the fuck 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.960 am I doing this shit. I go back and I 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.400 watch the fucking that Kendrick and j Rob best Buy 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.720