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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast only signs proven deals. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosa Doll. What's up, boys, Hey d Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: That I stressed those words properly, Yes, I think you did.

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Speaker 1: There was a big countdown. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys noticed that in the newsroom today, as the as

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Speaker 1: the free agency clock was twintly Darren about to start

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Speaker 1: that it was like New Year's Eve. I try to

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Speaker 1: But it was the anti climactic anyways, and most of

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Speaker 1: the big names half of free agency was over before

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Speaker 1: free agency started. It was busier last night, which means

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Speaker 1: after free agency started. Well, here's the thing. They they

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Speaker 1: three days to two. But with that came a loosening

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Speaker 1: free agency and west you were in Tybee Island during

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Speaker 1: basically the first two days of free anvy is the

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Speaker 1: way it worked out. I know you you he loved

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Speaker 1: he read the fine wording in the change in the

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Speaker 1: Eastern on Monday, really or whenever it was, that's fair,

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Speaker 1: and it's been it's actually been good for us. It's

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Speaker 1: week started. We we covered some of it on our

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Speaker 1: first podcast. I believe twenty one of our top thirty

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Speaker 1: Matt Shop in matt Castle one of them. You're too

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Speaker 1: late to the party, West. I openly had concerns that

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Speaker 1: you'd come back to us in a box. Uh, but well,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be buried here, right, but maybe there'd be

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Speaker 1: Where do we send him? I don't know Cincinnati, I

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Speaker 1: don't know an island off Georgia. But you were at

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Speaker 1: Tybee Island. You don't appear to be as ill as

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Speaker 1: from the trip. I got out of my system. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to go there for a long time. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember our conversation on the podcast last Thursday? I

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Speaker 1: Good job by West? He got a trick question? It

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Speaker 1: was Monday, Oh Monday? Sorry that yeah, that I caught

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Speaker 1: that one I liked. I might have a quick question

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Speaker 1: for you, because you said you noticed teeth on a

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Speaker 1: you know they were women's idea? If they were women's teeth?

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Speaker 1: I was tempted to be unfaithful, of course not, I

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Speaker 1: Now you're right hands hands this hair frenzy right now

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Speaker 1: in the video sixty six does appear to be more

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Speaker 1: But we have so much to get to and as uh,

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Speaker 1: fun in games, Mark, I know you want to have

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Speaker 1: Not today, Mark. You will talk football and you'll like it.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. And and Brandon behind the

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Speaker 1: glasses is show number two for you? Since you took

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Speaker 1: over for the great legend, living legend law sid up

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Speaker 1: there on Mount Rushmore, we all know West. While you

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Speaker 1: to find out, let's do some free agency. Knows, the

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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen league year is upon us. If you

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL podcast, Andrew Siciliano about you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty four straight hours of live coverage in Studio one

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Speaker 1: It is a new year. Uh, and it starts with

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Speaker 1: a source told NFL media insider Ian Rappaport. Uh Texas

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Speaker 1: that happen. The defense, the defense, the whole defense was

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Speaker 1: a team meat. It was a disastrous looking roster at defense.

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Speaker 1: But you're right there running out of time with with

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Speaker 1: Eli made it as well. That might be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the pressure. They have some other holes of

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Speaker 1: their roster, But I don't know the jacked stuff. I

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Speaker 1: just could I could see it going sideways. I have

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Speaker 1: a bit of a sessler by the way, that the

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Speaker 1: Giants Eli Manning is, you know, thirty five years old.

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Speaker 1: About three years from now, I can see Eli being old.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterback solution, and they're in cap

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Speaker 1: hell and then the worst team in the league. When

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Speaker 1: you really lay out money this much, funey, everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the CAP's always going up and money is not an

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Speaker 1: issue when you're giving super duperstar money to these guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Snacks is a nice player, by the way.

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Speaker 1: I love to having anybody's a two down lineman and

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Speaker 1: you're paying him like he's the Hankins to be a

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Speaker 1: two downline me, he's the safest one of those those

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Speaker 1: three too. These deals should shame anyone that signed the

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Speaker 1: agents that signed deals at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: or poor Derek Wolf, Derrick Wolf, guys like that, like

447
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Speaker 1: people like von Miller, like there is no chance he

448
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Speaker 1: is signing his franchise tag. Now he's not saying, oh yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a one year deal for three million

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Speaker 1: dollars less than Olivier Vernon's making. I mean, give me

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Speaker 1: a break. You think Moe Wilkerson still pissed at the

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Speaker 1: Jets for not getting his deal taken care of. Now

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, back up the brains truck, baby,

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Speaker 1: and no free agency period more than this one. Did

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Speaker 1: you see on Twitter players freaking out, former and current

456
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Speaker 1: players freaking out about the money being handed out. Did

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Speaker 1: you see the Matt Flynn tweet work, I know you

458
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Speaker 1: have a complicated relationship. I'm fine with Flynn now. Well,

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Speaker 1: my issue with Flynn he's he's upset about quarterbacks making

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Speaker 1: at least was self derogatory that. I mean, he's saying

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that went out and made way more

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Speaker 1: money than he ever deserved to make good for him

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Speaker 1: he showed a nice sense of humor. Uh, a level

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Speaker 1: of self awareness. I think so too. I think a

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler would connect with I think maybe you and

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Speaker 1: Maddie Flynn can move past in common that you think well.

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Speaker 1: I think Flynn is another example of what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about here is getting paid isn't about always earning it.

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Speaker 1: It's about being in the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 1: You're a better off in the NFL being a very

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Speaker 1: certain type of player in terms of getting paid, which

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Speaker 1: is the very good player that is just below Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl level. It's like those guys end up making more

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Speaker 1: money the the the Pro Bowl players. Because he was

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Speaker 1: the best example of this of all time, D'Angelo Hall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he gets paid by everyone. Uh. Speaking of somebody has

477
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Speaker 1: been paid and got paid again. Mario Williams Um, the

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Speaker 1: former Bills defensive end who barked his way out of town,

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Speaker 1: has signed a two year deal with the Dolphins. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's worth seventeen million, with close to twelve million and

481
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Speaker 1: guarantees um. The deal was confirmed on Tuesday night. He

482
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Speaker 1: was Um released by the Bills, of course, so he

483
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Speaker 1: was able to sign before the free agent period actually began.

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Speaker 1: So the Dolphins, and this one, Mark feels kind of shaky.

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Speaker 1: To mean, it feels kind of like a Dolphins move

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna work out. Uh. And we've talked it

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Speaker 1: at length about Mario Williams um not being a guy

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Speaker 1: that maybe you trust on another contract, and now he's

489
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Speaker 1: going down to South Beach. I don't know you got

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Speaker 1: a bad vibe about this, Yeah, because you you just

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Speaker 1: west You mentioned the Dolphins being a prototype of a

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Speaker 1: team that overspends, and I have a problem with overspending

493
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Speaker 1: for in, in my estimation, the wrong type of player.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we don't play and we weren't in

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Speaker 1: the locker room with Mario Williams, but there were multiple reports.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Greg, you were in the locker room with

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams. I'll give you that. You played nothing. You

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Speaker 1: played tennis in middle school, betsive tackle. Oh as far

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Speaker 1: as I go further than well, I was a better

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Speaker 1: high school athlete than Mark. So if he's going to

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Speaker 1: bring that up, I mean I lettered in twee sports.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know how it was a corner,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. All I did was participate. Didn't you

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Speaker 1: play some college tennis. We want the state, we want

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Speaker 1: the state? What state in college? No, well that wasn't

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Speaker 1: what Dan asked. But anyways, Mario Williams, I mean there

507
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Speaker 1: were multiple tweets today from people his own teammates saying

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Speaker 1: that he quit on them. And so this is who

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Speaker 1: you want to go if you're the Dolphins, say we're

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Speaker 1: gonna anchor our defense around this. Mary Williams is talented.

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Speaker 1: It's just that is this the player you're gonna identify

512
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Speaker 1: with on your defense? I don't know. I hate this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I can't stand it. And they did it instead

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Speaker 1: of paying Vernon, and I know Vernon, maybe it was

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Speaker 1: impossible to keep Vernon. I think you got they sending

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Speaker 1: that transition tech it was over for Vernon a signal

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Speaker 1: that it's a signal that the new catch coaching staff

518
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Speaker 1: comes in. But nothing changes in Miami. You go get

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Speaker 1: this guy, And I thought, maybe on a contender, with

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Speaker 1: some strong leadership, you could get Mario Williams to fall

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Speaker 1: in line and be motivated for a Super Bowl run.

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Speaker 1: What's the motivation in Miami where all they do is

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Speaker 1: throw money at their problems every March and then throw

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Speaker 1: a bad team out on the field in October and November.

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Speaker 1: Popular opinion was wildly against all Miami moves this week,

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Speaker 1: which sometimes you should then go the opposite direction. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen this this like fail in

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Speaker 1: Miami before, this type of roster building. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like anything is changing. When they had their version of

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Speaker 1: the Dream Team a couple of years ago, one issue

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Speaker 1: was they were signing they were over paying for subpar players,

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Speaker 1: and they've gone out and they've done it again. This

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Speaker 1: is a weird strategy that they have, which is they

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Speaker 1: are trying to not exactly by low, but by medium

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Speaker 1: on guys that were disappointing elsewhere. So Maxwell the you

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Speaker 1: know Byron Maxwell from Philadelphia, Kiko Alonso and now Mario Wims.

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Speaker 1: Is like they're getting these guys on the as their

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Speaker 1: prices going down as their careers. Maybe it's a weird.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird strategy allowing another team to dump salary

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Speaker 1: with Kiko Alonso, a post surgery Kiko Alonso who's not

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Speaker 1: seen to be the same player, and Maxwell who was

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Speaker 1: an epic bus less season. Terms of that deal, by

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Speaker 1: the way, we're interesting. Um So Maxwell and Kiko go

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Speaker 1: to Miami and the Eagles get back the number eight

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Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, UH and the UH Dolphins

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Speaker 1: send back the number thirteen overall or the Eagles send

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins the number thirteen overall picks. So everyone, that's

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Speaker 1: a lesson to everyone. Also because I think everyone was, oh,

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Speaker 1: whenever a picks to be named later, it's never something interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty sexy first round picks involved, just like six

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Speaker 1: spots or whatever. That's a that's a good move for

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Speaker 1: I think. I think they're happy to dump the salaries

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Speaker 1: for nothing, and they got to move up, you know,

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Speaker 1: to the number eight pick of the draft, and you've

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Speaker 1: gotten your quarterback situations settled so you don't have to

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Speaker 1: reach for a quarterback in the draft, and you can.

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Speaker 1: Really there are some great defensive players in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Philly is running circles around the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now, Mark, do you think Cali Roseman ever takes

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Speaker 1: his or plans to take his children or future children

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Speaker 1: to the archery shock buried deep in the pokes? Why not?

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00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Why not show your your darkest moment rise and grind type.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great for anyone to go through what

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Speaker 1: what what Roseman went through? You know, what it's like.

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Speaker 1: It's like at the end of Madman season six, where

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Speaker 1: Don took his two kids to the whorehouse where he

567
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: was raised. There's a parallel and the message was strong

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Speaker 1: and one of the best season ending ending scenes. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the only scenes they gave his son in

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Speaker 1: the last like four or five season. They cut that

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Speaker 1: guy out. They cut that guy had of Uh, here's

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Speaker 1: something that broke earlier in the week, but of course

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Speaker 1: we'd be remiss not to talk about it. Calvin Johnson,

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00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: it's all over the lines announced that the All Pro

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Speaker 1: wide receiver has decided to retire just thirty years old.

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Speaker 1: But the decision was made by Johnson that he wanted

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Speaker 1: to end his career after nine seasons at age thirty

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Speaker 1: and Uh. He leaves with seven thirty one career catches,

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Speaker 1: UH eleven thousand, six hundred nineteen yards eighty three touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he had that record breaking season in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twelve when he had almost two thousand yards receiving

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Speaker 1: and UH in one of those games at three twenty

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Speaker 1: nine yards. We talked about this on an NFL network. Kid,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we're going NFL network and you expect

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Speaker 1: our Twitter feed to blow up like guys, oh you

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Speaker 1: really did a good job, or guys, do better with

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Speaker 1: your eye people people, And I didn't. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: a single tweet. Well, they could fight a link to it.

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Speaker 1: Uh on my face, Well they're not trying too hard

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Speaker 1: to have said that good. I think you should keep

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Speaker 1: shaming the listeners. But I will say that we had

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Speaker 1: a discussion that we were shaming anyone who was insinuating

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Speaker 1: that Calvin Johnson was not a Hall of Fame receiver

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Speaker 1: in West I'm sure you agree. As a historian of

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Speaker 1: the game, I I totally agree. And when you're the

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Speaker 1: most dominant player in your position for a stretch of

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Speaker 1: more than two years, you're a Hall of famer. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I agree. And I saw a post today, yeah,

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Speaker 1: questioned whether he's a Hall of famer because you know,

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Speaker 1: listing the other receivers that are around Calvin Johnson and

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Speaker 1: the all time receiving yardage leaders, you know, he's like

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Speaker 1: twenty five. It's like, that's not how you do it.

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Speaker 1: You don't just decide what the leaders are. He should

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Speaker 1: get more credit that he has the same amount of

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Speaker 1: yards as Audrey read or whoever these guys are in

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Speaker 1: only i'd seasons a shorter timee period. Well, we all agree,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't think it's not like they

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Speaker 1: were hundreds of people saying Megatron doesn't believe belong in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. There were a few here and there.

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Speaker 1: But as a post today on on Pro Football Talk, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I don't know what that is read around the

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Speaker 1: NFL at NFL dot com, right, Greg, I feel yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I feel bad that it's very typical for Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 1: that he slid this in right as free agency news

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: is breaking. It kind of got overshadowed, like if this

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Speaker 1: happened in the middle of May, we'd spend the whole

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Speaker 1: show on Well, he didn't want to press conference, we'd

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Speaker 1: have Kevin Patra And he started his statement by apologizing,

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Speaker 1: uh for making the announcement in a statement, but he

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Speaker 1: just said, if if you know me, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you'd really be that surprised about it, and he just

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Speaker 1: walks away. There's something cool about that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I don't remember which one of you

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Speaker 1: guys it was, but Nate Earlson said, was it to

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Speaker 1: us that you should tell the story since you were there.

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Speaker 1: I don't really recall, okay, but he did say that

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson has never been fully about football. He's other

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Speaker 1: He's had outside interest. He's a well rounded guy and

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Speaker 1: a very humble, modest kind of guy, type of guy

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Speaker 1: that can walk away. The blinds didn't, So we would

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Speaker 1: give on a normal show, we'd give Megatron more time,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps down the line we will. We gotta keep moving, guys.

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Speaker 1: Well let's say what if that could try it? At

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00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: his peak has to be right there with Randy Moss

635
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Speaker 1: and the best the receivers of the last twenty year.

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Speaker 1: So how did that? That's the Hall of Fame case

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Speaker 1: to an absolute specimen and unstoppable at his peak. And

638
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: one last thing, Burlison noted that this is a factor too.

639
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: He has been Megatron has played through so many injuries

640
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: of late that people won't even ever know about. I

641
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: think that that is a contributor to leaving sooner, any

642
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: of the injuries that I did not speak personally with

643
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Burlison like West, so I'll allow him to journal about

644
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: his encounters high ankle springs, knee knee injury, where fingers members, fingers,

645
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Speaker 1: where were you guys? Said, ran into him outside the

646
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Speaker 1: green room. Okay, you guys just hanging out there. I

647
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Speaker 1: want I went in to swipe a gatorade. I want

648
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Speaker 1: one of like a private injury that he wouldn't want

649
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: anyone to know about. We didn't really talk injuries and

650
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: made all of that up. The lines quickly moved on,

651
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: and they did in a in a very nice way.

652
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they got the best wide receiver in the market.

653
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: A day after Calvin Johnson retired, Marvin Jones signs a

654
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: five year, forty million dollar deal. Uh. This is a

655
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: deal that includes twenty million and guarantee seventeen fully guaranteed.

656
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means, but I'm reading it

657
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: to you. Uh, and that's twenty seven million over the

658
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: first three years. So listen, you don't replace Calvin Johnson.

659
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Speaker 1: But Calvin Johnson at age thirty one, wasn't the same

660
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Speaker 1: guy was a couple of years earlier. Now you have

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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, who isn't as good as Calvin Johnson. But

662
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones Golden tape. That's a nice one too. From

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Speaker 1: Mattie Stafford. I don't I don't think it is. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think you're going from one of the best wide

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Speaker 1: receivers of his generation to a guy who has feasted

666
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: on single coverage outside of a j Green, and it's

667
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna find a life a lot more difficult in Detroit.

668
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: How did he get so high on your top ninety nine?

669
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Speaker 1: Was a wide receiver in the two thousand sixteen free

670
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: ag market just pulling in millions. Now. I think Marvin

671
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Jones is fine, but he's not a number one. It's

672
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: a risky siety in terms of the money, but we

673
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: like his skill set he to be. It's a boomer

674
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: Bus type of injured. I think he could be a

675
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: good player for them. I mean, when Golden Take got there,

676
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: you were one of the only guys West that that

677
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: thought play like a number one receiver when Johnson was out. Yea,

678
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: So maybe he's the number one and then you got

679
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: a number two in Mormon Jones possibly or you gotta

680
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: you know two number two is that's better than a

681
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: lot of teams have. It's not that bad. I'd take it.

682
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, though might might We'll get to you, Mark,

683
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a little bit later. It might

684
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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a reckoning for Matthew Stafford

685
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: though without without baggot round there. Yeah, another big move,

686
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: another huge move, Number one in fact on your top

687
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: ninety nine list, guys, was Malik Jackson, the Brown Broncos

688
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. He signs a huge deal with the Jacksonville

689
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: Jaguars six years, ninety million, forty two million and guarantees,

690
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: which is second only to Olivier Vernon. Yeah, in in

691
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: terms of guaranteed money. So Malik Jackson goes uh from Denver,

692
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: the reigning Super Bowl champion to Jacksonville, a team perpetually

693
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: trying to be competitive. Uh. They also signed Bruce Irvin. Uh, correct,

694
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: the Raiders did. The Raiders did sign Brusers. They were

695
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: they were a candidate for the Jaguars having my own

696
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: ESPN two. They were Jaguars side Chris Ivory as you

697
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: mentioned before. So that's a big time move. And then

698
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: they signed to Sean Gibson just now as we were

699
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: coming up to the studio the former happenings, you know,

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00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: comings and going those happy perfect guys. No, no, you

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00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: can't ask, I mean Malik, Malik Jackson, he's gonna have

702
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Speaker 1: I guess it's like I almost you almost need to

703
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: forget about the money a little bit right now, it's

704
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: like they have all the money that they can't to spend.

705
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: It's not if I'm a Jaguars rate, it's not your money.

706
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: You're just rooting on the team and there. It's not

707
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: like they're gonna run out of cap space that the Jaguars.

708
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: They're trying to get that jack that defense better. Malik Jackson.

709
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not going to be a premier player. He's

710
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: not a proo player. He wasn't even a starter in

711
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. So it's a risky movie. Different system.

712
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: You put him and Dot the Fouler together, you start, well,

713
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: it's a less risky than if you're the Jaguars doing nothing,

714
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: where you talk about another GM and a coach that

715
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: they the owner on down. So this is a you've

716
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: got to go out and turn and turn the ship

717
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: around this year, and it starts on defense. Their offense

718
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: has a lot going on. And think about how much

719
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: money they had to spend and how serious they are

720
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: about spending it. Well, that they almost got Vernon, who

721
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: ended up getting fifty million from the Giants guaranteed, and

722
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: they already had Malik, so they were willing probably to

723
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: drop like eighty million eighty to ninety million and guaranteed

724
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: money on two guys for their defensive line. It's fair

725
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: to point out that it is not your money if

726
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: you're the fans, and you do need to upgrade talent

727
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: because you can't get enough talent purely from the draft.

728
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: But it's also fair to point out there's a reason

729
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: why these players are available, which is why I'm more

730
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: negative on these signings than maybe you would expect. But MALIEK.

731
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Jackson isn't gonna have DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller coming

732
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: off the edge. He's not gonna have Wolf next to

733
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: him right now. I think it's fair to wonder how

734
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna do with double And yeah, everybody always says, well,

735
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: it's not your money, but also but it's your team

736
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: that if you were support this team and this guy

737
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: ends up being massively overpaid, it bangs your team that

738
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: you root for for years to come until they get

739
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: forgot a way to get out from under here. But

740
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: so it does matter. Make a great point because the

741
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: problem with free agency is you take someone who's thriving

742
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: and assist him with talent around him, and then you

743
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: go put him in a completely different defense, probably a

744
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: lacking defense because it's typically your lesser teams there are

745
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: a terrible defense. Well, specifically Jacksonville. Yeah, but in a

746
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: lot of teams. It's even the Dominican Sioux move him

747
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins, it's Malik Jackson to Jacksonville, and you're

748
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: asking them to be the same player with so much

749
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: less talent around them. It's not gonna happen. Well, the

750
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: thing that I think has been a little underrated is

751
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's a salary floor these teams, the Jaguars,

752
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: that the Raiders have to spend their money this year

753
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: more than ever. They they can end them on good players, right,

754
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: but they could spend it up to themselves. I mean

755
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: there's only some the free point the free agent the

756
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: free agent list, though, isn't that isn't that great? I mean,

757
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: this is the top guy we had on our list

758
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: real quick. On Chris Ivory, I thought that was the

759
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: most surprising signing and I've seen so far. He got

760
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: way more money than I expected for one of the

761
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: most injury prone running backs of the past half decade.

762
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: And they drafted t J. Yelden, who was drawing Levy

763
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: on Bell comparisons as a three down back. Maybe they

764
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: just see yelled In is a guy who can't handle

765
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: physically twenty I think they were talking about yelled In

766
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: two is someone in the red zone that they don't

767
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: necessarily trust, right, And Ivory's that guy. And what you

768
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: already have signed a power back and free agency like

769
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Speaker 1: Toby Gerhardt and that move worked out so well, got it?

770
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: You just got double up to it again with Ivory

771
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: Chris Ivey obviously uh upgrade over Gerhood, who is going

772
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: to be released. But I will say this was jetson

773
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: one of the great teases in all my history of

774
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: fandom of Jeff the Guy, And I tweeted this. There

775
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: were times where he literally looked like Marshawn Lynch Jr.

776
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: And And you absolutely you could talk yourself into Wow,

777
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: this guy is like one of the best three running

778
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: back in the league, maybe because he could be that dominant.

779
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: And then two weeks later you'd have the slug in

780
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: the backfield that couldn't get two yards and was limping

781
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: off the field. Let me ask you this, what did

782
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: the Jets pay for him? Uh? Next to nothing. I

783
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. That's what I mean. The Jets got

784
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: him at a great deal that Jaguars are overpaying, and

785
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: they're setting him up for I think his success in

786
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: terms of not giving him the load. I mean, he's

787
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: got to share the ball with Yell that you would

788
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: think fifty fifty and maybe even did rabits and a

789
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of injuries are just hamstrings. I mean, it's not

790
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: like their contact injuries. Um. Well, since we're talking about

791
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: the Jets in their backfield, why don't we now move

792
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: on to who they have replaced Chris Iubrey with. He

793
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: is a former Pro Bowl running back with the Chicago Bears.

794
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: He is uh Matt Forte proposition, Yes, guys, Taco, but

795
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get one, by the way, for verdict because

796
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: you're not damn technically, I haven't wait, what was it?

797
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Guarantee propositions? You can call for it, by the way, Okay,

798
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm calling for it. Olivia Vernon top fifty five million guaranteed.

799
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's possible someone could do it, but that

800
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Speaker 1: one is looking good, baby, Alright, so you said, Olivia Vernon,

801
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Speaker 1: Olivia Olivia, that's why Ali Ali Vernon gets the most

802
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and free agency. Dan Mark and check all

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00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: took you up on that. That could be three sangwiches.

804
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: We we had a good day as a room, like

805
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Speaker 1: in terms of picking some tough ones. But can I

806
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Speaker 1: tell you something this Mark Matt Forte New News. You

807
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Speaker 1: know what this was. And Mark Mark hates when anybody

808
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: brings attention to themselves. Mark, just let me enjoy this. Okay,

809
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: I've said nothing. It is exactly. It is one of

810
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the hottest tracks in America right now. Market is this

811
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Speaker 1: guy ever produced? Actually young Monday character, It's only a

812
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: title right now. It's so hot. This is one of

813
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: the rare I don't know if it's ever happened. By

814
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Speaker 1: the way, and go get your lunch, the rare grand

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Speaker 1: slam Uh sandwich win. I got four sandwiches off this.

816
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Speaker 1: I got it from everybody in the room, which was

817
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: West or excuse me, Mark, Greg and Check and handsome

818
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Speaker 1: Hag who happened to duck in at the right time.

819
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Forte that. I'm very excited about

820
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: those sandwich wins five and oh, by the way, right now,

821
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: um uh, you just gotta call out these things. It's

822
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: a competition. Um. Forte is a very nice addition. Um

823
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: I think he will be that third wide or the

824
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: third third receiver that uh Fitzpatrick hopefully if Ryan Fitzpatrick

825
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: is still there, about a seven and a half at

826
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Speaker 1: the Peace scale right now, guys, pants and I got

827
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Speaker 1: my diapa on. Just some teams out there that need

828
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback in mine threw thirty one touchdowns last year.

829
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Speaker 1: I'm little noivas. Uh So I'm about seven and a

830
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: half to eight in the Pie scale. It's not the

831
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: first time Fitzpatricks ever had his own team's fans worked.

832
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: Hit me some belt diapas just in case. Uh. But

833
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: Bilo Paul stepped up at the end of the year

834
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: who they're trying to keep and was a great receiver

835
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: for them and a guy that made the things happen. Four.

836
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to throw it out there at least

837
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: eighty catches for the jetstershire well, but he's two years

838
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: removed from having a hundred catches. Yeah, and he's got

839
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. Like I said last week on

840
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: the pot, I think he could be that LaDainian Tomlinson

841
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: uh Jets player like Rex. Ryan. Had you get one

842
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: really good year, maybe a year where he's in clear decline,

843
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: then he's gone. But like I said, especially if they

844
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: can get Ryan Fitzpatrick here, uh back in the building,

845
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: they're a win now team. Despite what Lindsay Rhodes had

846
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Speaker 1: to say. Uh last what did she say? She said

847
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: when I predicted this as a move that should happen,

848
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and she said, well, Matt Forte would to go there.

849
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: He wants to go to a team that has a

850
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: chance to win the Super Bowls kind of how I feel.

851
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: I agree with Lindsay that, well, whatever, good, good move.

852
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: One of my favorite players of all time has he

853
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: went to the most fun player to watch the moat

854
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage since he entered the league in two

855
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I think he's always of late and

856
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: overlooked too. I think he's got a chip on his shoulder.

857
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: He had a chance to go to the Packer. Well,

858
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: there was whispers that the Packers and him could have

859
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: been a match. But I like the chan Gailey in

860
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: the the four Ta chan Gailey partnership here. Why not

861
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Jets suddenly look at the offense they had two years

862
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: ago compared to now. It's a lot better than Greg

863
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: one of your favorite players of all time now playing

864
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: a nice Rutherford it doesn't take away the Super Bowl titles.

865
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna Fox Burrow wiped from human Earth.

866
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: By the way, they'll sign BALaw Paw and he'll get

867
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: yards and beat the Jets and a couple of times probably. Uh.

868
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: In other running back news, here's somebody got paid. Doug

869
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Martin agrees to a five year deal with the Buccaneers. Uh.

870
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Muscle Hamster doesn't like to be called that, but he

871
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: does like to be called a dug or not. What

872
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: does that mean? By the way, he's like a juggernaut,

873
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: but with a d Well, that's stupid. I thought at

874
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: first it was like an astronaut. That's what I thought too.

875
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: It's just a cosmonaut. No, it's just stupid. The dugger

876
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: not know you guys are missing missing. His name is

877
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: hug so it's like a play on word. Wait he

878
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: honestly he backs that nickname. Well, if your original nickname

879
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: was muscle Hampster would probably signed off on anything. Well,

880
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to be called I'm not sure i'd

881
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: settled under yourself. You want me to call you that?

882
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna sign off the show calling you

883
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: a muscle hampster don't care. Okay, anyway, Doug Martin got

884
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: paid by the Bucks. Uh, this is a deal worth

885
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: five years, Uh thirty five point seven five million, fifteen

886
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Uh, you can make up to forty two

887
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: point five million. He never will, of course, but twenty

888
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: six years old coming off really a tremendous season. The

889
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: average on was five yards to carry four hundred yards um.

890
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: That coming off two years where you average less than

891
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: four yards to carry. So he really picked an amazing

892
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: time to get his career back in and check in

893
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: now he is one of the highest paid running backs

894
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: in the game. It made sense to me all along

895
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: that this would be what happened. Mark mentioned guys who

896
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: are great fits for their schemes where they are originally,

897
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: and Dirk Cutter went to bat for him last off season,

898
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: saved his job, and he had a career year in

899
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: that offense. While also underrated how good he was. I

900
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: thought he was the best running back, That's what I

901
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: was saying. I was talking about it on Damn X podcast.

902
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Just I don't I don't think people watched the Bucks

903
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: at time, but like he was great, well, I don't

904
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: think he was. I don't think that was missed on

905
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: this podcast though, because he he and Charles Simms, the

906
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: combination got a lot of attention. And when you have

907
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston at quarterback, I love the move to not

908
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: have to go try to suddenly find another featured back

909
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: because Simms was not gonna be Simms would never have

910
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: played that role. They they fit together well and your

911
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: young quarterback has a great backfield to work with. In

912
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: other news, let's move to the Oakland unless somebody has

913
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: something else's said, Doug No, let's keep moving. Bruce Irvin,

914
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: you know, I mean a hugely embarrassing or early in

915
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: the show, and I'm I deeply regret my comments earlier

916
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: that Bruce Irvan signed. What I missed that with the

917
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Jackson Old Jaguars, I blew it. But he actually is

918
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: signing with the Oakland Raiders, who um are locking up

919
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: the former Seahawks linebacker. Um He was ranked fifth in

920
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: the top ninety nine free agents of around the NFL.

921
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: So you get Irvin and now you get to pair

922
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: Irvan with Khalil Mack and other concerns mark that Bruce

923
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Irvan would go to a team where he needed to

924
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: be like the man. But in Oakland he doesn't have

925
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: to be like the face of that defense. Maybe this

926
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: is a good spot for him. I think it is.

927
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you you mentioned Mac that's they have complimentary

928
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: pieces there. The Raiders still need more on that defense.

929
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: But listen, Reggie mackenzie, who was just getting lashed by

930
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: all of us a couple of years ago, well he

931
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: did then, but what they were doing a couple of

932
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: years ago was massively over pain for players well past

933
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: their prime. And trying to tell us that Matt Shop

934
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: was just up there with Manning and Philip Rivers and

935
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: NFC West utter complete nonsense from a p our angle.

936
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: And what the Raiders have done since is I think

937
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: with a couple of solid rafts. They had high picks

938
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: and they hit on them. That helps you hit on

939
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback and Derek Carr and now this kind of

940
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: thing is that you're adding strength to a good nucleus.

941
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: Raiders are on the way up. The Raiders also, oh no,

942
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking forward to this, have signed uh Guard

943
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: Slash Tackle. They got it bang to a deal. Uh,

944
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: this is a contract worth a maximum sixty million. So

945
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: they get somebody they needed a smile who can I

946
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: guess they could play them and one of two spots

947
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: that Blue is a guard. Last year, but they they

948
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: strengthened their offensive line, so not only uh do they

949
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: get a pass rusher, they improve their protection for Derek Carr. Well,

950
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: if you go buy our rankings that they were the

951
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: big winners in terms of the top of the rankings.

952
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: Two of our top five players there Bruce Servant and Assembly.

953
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: What a week free h Yeah. Well that was also

954
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: after some of the franchise tag guys got taken out.

955
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I think we might have overrated Irvin a little bit.

956
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: One thing I saw with Irvin is everyone's like, Wow,

957
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: they got their their second you know, they got their

958
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: bookend pass rusher for Khalil Back, It's like, that's not

959
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Irvin at all. He's a versatile sort of you

960
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: can play him in a variety of different roles and

961
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: you can do a little bit of everything. He's not

962
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: like a great pure pass rusher. He hasn't he hasn't

963
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: been at the pro level. Well let's see what he

964
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: does in another system. Seattle's Seattle's linebackers don't rush the pass.

965
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: The one thing that worried me a little bit with

966
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: him is that you know, the Seahawks maybe just didn't

967
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: fit their scheme and that was that was that similar scheme.

968
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: This is this is Ken Norton Jr. His former linebackers coach.

969
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: That's why they valued six other guys at their defense

970
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: before they valued him. I mean, because six of those

971
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: guys got long term contracts and they never really right.

972
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: They never tried to sign Irvin Long. But Mark's right,

973
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: you guys are all right about this. The Raiders have

974
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: to spend to get the salary floor at least get

975
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: players on their second contracts who are good player, they're

976
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: fun team. It is hard to be a defending Super

977
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Bowl champion because everybody wants to get paid and everyone's

978
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: in the spotlight in a good way. So and you

979
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: know the Broncos are learning this. Broncos while or out

980
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: the door. Malik Jackson out the door. Danny Trevathan also

981
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: out the door. He signs a uh four year deal

982
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears, reuniting him with John Fox, is

983
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: former coach in Denver. Also during the Fox regime, that's

984
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: when Tremathan was drafted. So nice little fit. It looks

985
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: like for both sides, all right, right. I like this move.

986
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: Trevathan was the guy who was surprised that the Broncos

987
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: just sort of accepted that he was gonna leave. Maybe

988
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: they just you have to make priorities. But now that

989
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: they know that they weren't going to keep Jackson, that

990
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: they weren't kind of keep as well, and maybe they

991
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: could have spent some of that money at Dremathan. I

992
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: like him. I like him too. He can. He's a

993
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: guy who can stop the run and cover running backs

994
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: and tight ends out of the backfield what you need

995
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: to do in today's talk about a team that needs

996
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: everything on their defense, I mean they were they were

997
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: were shaped than the Giants. They have no experience, no

998
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: good names on defense, and they signed I'd like to

999
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: see the details on this. But the weirdest deal I

1000
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: saw day was Tracy Porter getting sixty million over three years.

1001
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: That was from the Bears. They have a good defensive

1002
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: coordinator though. Yeah, I think they did great. Anchio is

1003
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Fangio will do well with Travis. I think they did

1004
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: great last year overall on both sides of the ball.

1005
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Considering the talent on their team, I think they overachieved,

1006
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Mark more like Vic fantastic. What a guy? Oh, Greg, Greg,

1007
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Greg has a giant, like murky looking coffee next to him.

1008
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: You gotta put that down. I can't tell you what

1009
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: that looks like to me without getting kicked the podcast.

1010
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: F CC would have an issue with it, uh that

1011
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: being Brandon Alright? Moving on, So Sam Bradford signed U

1012
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: that new deal with the Eagles and everyone's like, oh,

1013
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: why they give him all that money? And I guess

1014
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: they still believe in them. Well, we'll see how much

1015
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: they really believe in them, because the Eagles did something

1016
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: interesting on Wednesday. They signed uh, Doug Peterson's boy Chase

1017
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Daniel to a three year, twenty one million dollar deal,

1018
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: and um, and I don't see the guaranteed money in

1019
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: our post here, but I know that, uh it was

1020
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: substantial and it was not backup type money. So uh

1021
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: then I don't know if it was Burnt Brier, but

1022
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I heard whispers that or a report that this is

1023
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a real competition, which is strange, Chris Westling,

1024
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: because you give Sam Bradford a lot of money and

1025
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: approve it deal. Essentially, you don't give guys prove it

1026
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: deals and a lot of money and then maybe not

1027
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: give them the starting job, but it just feels like

1028
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: a big old mess with their heads and their bets

1029
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: strange like a fox. Come on, Howie Roseman, get on board. Look,

1030
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: you can't Sam Bradford. You can try to pay him

1031
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: like a franchise quarterback, but Hallie Roseman knows if you

1032
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: have Sam Bradford, you can't trust him to play like

1033
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback or to stay healthy. So you have

1034
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: to have a really good backup or a I did

1035
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: forget that we're talking about Chase Montana. I'm sorry, right,

1036
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: and I think Howie Roseman realized the Chase train is

1037
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: leaving the station. Get on board. This guy's got to

1038
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: be winning multiple Super Bowls. Well yeah, and these things

1039
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: didn't happen on the same day. I mean, they didn't

1040
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: know if they would get Chase Daniel. And now after

1041
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: what's happened in Denver, you could always trade Sam Bradford.

1042
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: You could train Sam Bradford to a couple of different teams.

1043
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna fall for that, but we've seen,

1044
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, the last twenty four hours there a lot

1045
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: of dumb Denver will But I mean, if you're Denver

1046
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 1: maybe Sam Bradford isn't the worst. What are you gonna

1047
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: go after? It's virtually unprecedented of a move for the

1048
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Eagles to sign a guy to an eight million dollars

1049
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: a year gottrack and then say he's battling to start

1050
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: for the job, and then who knows if he even

1051
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: gets traded, that would be even more unprecedented. But I

1052
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: love it all how he runs this team like an

1053
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: aggressive fantasy. You love ratios, right, the least salary ratio

1054
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: here is unprecedented. That there you go, that is the

1055
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: type of raco. I'm looking at Dan All, I'm saying,

1056
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you don't believe in Chase

1057
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Dan You all I'm saying is giving Brandon Marshall and

1058
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Eric Decker and I would take him easily over Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay,

1059
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: I guess I mean, so he'll play st Bradford's been

1060
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: in the league since what O nine, ten or ten?

1061
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: He's only started sixty games twice, So history will say

1062
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: that Chase Daniel will be starting some games for the

1063
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced Bradford is even on this roster by

1064
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, he would have to be. He would

1065
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: have to be traded. Correct, They can't get out of

1066
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: the deal, right, Yeah, I think that. I think he's

1067
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: a trade candidate. He was a trade candidate last year.

1068
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: How many teams he's gonna go and make forty million

1069
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: for CVS? How many teams could go for him? How

1070
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: many teams would be sincerely interested in the Niners at

1071
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: that salary? The Niners, the Broncos, the Browns, there's some

1072
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Oh you would hate that. I don't. I would, but

1073
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't think the salad. I don't think it's for

1074
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: some of these teams. The salary isn't that pig of

1075
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: a deal. I agree, it's it's not that long of

1076
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: it's a short contract. He might have done better looking

1077
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: at this agent market. I mean, if brock Ey Sweidler

1078
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: gets four for seventy two, I would think Sam Bradford

1079
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: could get more. Uh another Howie Mania news. Uh Rod

1080
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: Rodney McLeod, Uh the safety former Rams safety. You got

1081
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: a five year, thirty seven million deal, seventeen million guaranteed.

1082
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: Don't have a ton of knowledge on Rodney myself. If

1083
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: you guys want to jump in, have at it. I

1084
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: believe he's McLeod Okay, that's let's start. Yeah, that's where

1085
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: your lack of information starts. This guy, I know he well.

1086
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: West forgot to rank him and I was like I

1087
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: had him in my top thirty or forty, and apparently

1088
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles did too. Greg Williams, who uh doesn't get

1089
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of publicity. He gets his Yes, he does well.

1090
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: Not anymore that this won't be a consolation to Rams fans.

1091
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: But if you're a defensive back and you want to

1092
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: get paid, play for Greg Williams. He just got Rodney McCleod,

1093
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: Genorris Jenkins and Tremade Johnson Monster Bucks. That's true. And

1094
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: it's not like p the last year we're like watch

1095
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: out for that Rams secondary, like they're the best secondary league.

1096
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: We talked they had their underrated, they had their best

1097
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: secondary in a long time. But I think these guys

1098
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: get paid because they hit well. It doesn't hurt to

1099
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: have a fantastic front seven in front of your at

1100
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: least Philadelphia does not mess around. They also got Nigel Bradham,

1101
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: who's reunited with Jim Schwartz. I like that signing to

1102
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: They have Branded Brooks, who is not a well hood

1103
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: guy but was in our top sixty A guard for

1104
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: the Texans, who's a starter and got big Buddy Leota's

1105
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Kelvin got a little less, also got Ronald Brooks. Their

1106
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: cornering the market on Brooks. They are active. Okay, um,

1107
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: by the way, just so everyone knows, so we can

1108
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: get an official d pronunciation of Rodney's name is in

1109
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: other news. Charles Johnson, uh, you know, got cut released

1110
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: by the Panthers last week. Uh Dave Gentleman went as

1111
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: far as to have a nice little goodbye, um you know,

1112
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: press release or thanked him for all his work. Clearly

1113
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: seemed like the end of the road. But he ends

1114
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: up going back to the Panthers. He he met with

1115
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: some teams, including uh the Giants, and he was offered

1116
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: up to double uh the three million one year deal

1117
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: he ended up taking to stay in Carolina. The Bucks

1118
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: and Giants both offered him uh double the amount of

1119
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: money the Panthers offered him. But Charles Johnson stays home.

1120
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Twenty nine years old, rank twenty eight in our Top

1121
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: ninety nine countdown. His quote, It's not about the money.

1122
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: Caroline is home, and I wouldn't have been happy if

1123
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: I went somewhere else. He told Josina Anderson of ESPN,

1124
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: But the Giants wish they would have kept Dave Gettleman

1125
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: bargaining in the off season, and he watches the Giants

1126
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: go pay eighty million for Ali Vernon and he gets

1127
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson back. First, wait a second, how many rings

1128
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: does Dave Gentleman have as a GM and how many rings?

1129
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Dave Getleman have as a front office

1130
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: executive for the Giant save as Jerry Rees whate that's

1131
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: the that's the deal of the off season. And people say,

1132
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: you know it's not about the money. He really showed it.

1133
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he passed up six million or something for

1134
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: the bucks. I would rather have Charles Johnson that Mario Williams,

1135
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't you, And he's cheaper even if they were the same.

1136
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: I kind of don't get this one. Why Well, I

1137
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: wonder if maybe he's at the age where he's got

1138
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: kids in school, he's got a foundation in Caroline and

1139
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: that helps. I mean, I don't know what his situation is,

1140
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: but I um, now that we know that I successfully

1141
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: brought back the Dean scream that you just got me

1142
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: thinking it's time to bring back show me the money. Wow.

1143
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if that ever totally laugh about the

1144
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: Q well, yeah, I mean not yeah, show me the

1145
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: money still kind of show me he's not going underground,

1146
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: but in like the Kuba getting junior uh inflection like

1147
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: that that excited, pumped up, show me the money, Jerry,

1148
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: maybe you can just take your talents to South Beach.

1149
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: You're still my agent, hangs up on him. It's it

1150
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: is a possibility, Dan, Let's explore it if you choose to. OK.

1151
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Moving on the San Diego Chargers doing some business. Travis Benjamin,

1152
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: former Brown's UH deep threat, signs a four year, twenty

1153
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: four million dollar deal. UH twenty six years old, had

1154
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: a career high sixty eight catches from nine d sixty

1155
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: six yards and five touchdowns last year in Cleveland, you know,

1156
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: and and that's pretty good production considering Cleveland's quarterback room.

1157
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: And now he is a Philip Rivers receivers, so that

1158
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: that that group is looking pretty good because they also

1159
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: resigned Antonio Gates. I don't know how much more Gates

1160
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: has left in the tank, but he always seems to

1161
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: find his way in the end zone every year when

1162
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: he can be on the field. He gets a two year,

1163
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: twelve million dollar deal. So added all up and got

1164
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. You got Travis Benjamin, he got Antonio Gates. Yes, uh,

1165
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: Spice Racks boy maybe having a bounce back season in

1166
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: the backfield. And he got Philip Rivers and maybe, just

1167
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: maybe the San Diego Chargers can be a competitive team

1168
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: in their potentially final year in San Diego. Greg has

1169
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: a really sour look on his face. That's still hard

1170
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: to get excited about. Moving the meter for me. I

1171
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: like Travis pitt I, I I thought that was a good

1172
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: fit because they pure, they they needed pure speeding, and

1173
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: they replaced Eddie Royal who used to be there. Well,

1174
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: the only version of Benjamin did not have Keenan Allen

1175
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: on his offense last year. I mean, people would just

1176
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: line up knowing half the time he's the only weapon

1177
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: on the field and he helps their special teams. He's

1178
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: a good return man. Um. Moving on, let's talk the

1179
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: uh Cleveland Browns and Sashi. Of course, big big time, uh,

1180
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: big time offseason for Sashi as they attempt to rebuild

1181
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: that team, it's starting off a little slowly. First of all,

1182
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Alex Mack, the center um who opted out of his

1183
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: deal with Cleveland kept his options open, was speaking as

1184
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: if he was interested in staying with Cleveland, and like

1185
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: the new regime, he ends up taking a five year

1186
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: deal with the Atlanta Falcons. So Alex mc the center

1187
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: has gone. Had been a big time player for them,

1188
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: for the Browns for several years. Uh. They also the

1189
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Browns had had been working out a deal with right

1190
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: tackle Mitchell Schwartz. I know, Mark, you're a fan of Schwartz.

1191
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: You had brought him up in the weeks leading up

1192
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: to free agency. He leaves the team because the Browns

1193
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: kind of pulled out of negotiations. So he goes and

1194
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: signs with the Kansas City Chiefs and of course finally,

1195
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: um and this was just a news item involving the Browns. Uh.

1196
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, who was whild it was widely believed he'd

1197
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: be released as soon as two thousand six League sixteen

1198
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: league business began. Uh, he'll probably still be released this week,

1199
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: but he's still a member of the brown So essentially

1200
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: nothing happened involving in Cleveland Browns. Mark. Uh So your thoughts, well,

1201
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, you know, free agency brings

1202
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: out the worst in any fan base where there's just

1203
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: nothing happening. And I get that if you're the Packers.

1204
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: I think Browns fans just desperately wanted to see. This

1205
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: front office has been crowed about as being you know,

1206
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: they're all from Harvard, They're super smart, they're gonna do

1207
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: things differently, well differently. Just looks like complete in action today.

1208
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: And it seems to me from what we were hearing,

1209
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: from what Michael Silver was hearing and what other people

1210
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: were hearing, was that Sashi and the front office a

1211
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: little bit over their heads in this whole thing that

1212
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: they they didn't quite the agents were complaining about how

1213
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: negotiations were going and to pull the contract off of

1214
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz. Jeff Schwartz's brother basically said that he couldn't

1215
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: have been happier to see him go to the Chiefs

1216
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: after the nonsense that he endured during these negotiations on

1217
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: order that means, but Cleveland basically lost a Pro bowler

1218
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: and Mac, I don't think Gibson is a true Pro Bowl.

1219
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: But he made the Pro Bowl. But listen, Travis Benjamin

1220
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: off a wide receiving group that has literally nothing left

1221
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: at this point, and you also lose, you know, half

1222
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: your offensive line, and you're gonna draft quarterback. They lost

1223
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of their best players. Ladies and Jeff for

1224
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: one night, you are factor reupstanding, you know what. You know,

1225
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't like hearing that. Well, that was clearly planned

1226
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: before the show, so thank you very much. But that

1227
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: was a very angry look by Mark there. Well, I'm

1228
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: not angry. I just I think at this point Browns fans,

1229
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: you have to look at this roster and say it

1230
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: is a complete rebuild. The roster is not much worse

1231
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: than this roster. I don't think it's a huge deal

1232
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: that you lose a bunch of good, your best players

1233
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: off of what's a bad team anyways. But I do

1234
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: think it's disappointed that you extended yourself to keep Mac

1235
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: and he chose to go to lant On Kyle Shanahan

1236
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: for a tidy bit less money. It's not really the

1237
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: less money thing that that bothers me all that, you know,

1238
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: It's more just that he decided to go. You know,

1239
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: he kind of had two options. He decides to go there,

1240
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: so that hurts because they really did want to keep them.

1241
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: And then the Mitchell Schwartz they just hearing that you

1242
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: pulled the offer what it was high, but he kind

1243
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: of wanted to stay in Cleveland, and that ends up

1244
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: just it's that it's a that what's weird Like Silver

1245
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: almost had a meltdown on our air waves today because

1246
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: obviously he's close with Hugh Jackson, so you could tell

1247
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: he was fired up and and you know, all kidding

1248
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: a side mark like this isn't happening again? Is it is? This?

1249
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: Are we in a situation where the Browns are in

1250
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: over their heads with their new news? I have no idea.

1251
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean I I I think that probably, you know,

1252
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: if you want to read through all the white noise,

1253
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: that probably Hugh Jackson has to be a little bit

1254
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: surprised with what happened today. I don't think that's how

1255
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: he thought this was gonna play out. They talked about

1256
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: you can't say it's a big priority any bad team

1257
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: saying we're gonna resign our own guys, we're gonna groom

1258
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: our own draft picks, and then you let all these

1259
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: people walk. Jabaal Sheared walked last year. And no one

1260
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: can blame any of these players for going if you're

1261
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: leaving a toxic situation to them to greener pastors. But

1262
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: you didn't not you had a plan, you didn't get

1263
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: it done. Bottom line, I agree, it looks from your

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Speaker 1: point of view, it has to look like Hugh Jackson

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01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: might have asked to keep these guys and it didn't

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Speaker 1: get whoever works above him didn't get it done. But

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Speaker 1: also it's disappointed that they've been leaking stories, or of

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: all the stories out of Cleveland have been these guys

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: want to play for you, and now a lot of

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Speaker 1: them are leaving. It's also day one of free agency,

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Speaker 1: and like a lot of times, people love the Browns

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Speaker 1: after some moves they make a free agency it's like,

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Speaker 1: let's just see how you know, you just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the teams that don't do anything today are

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Speaker 1: some of the best teams in the league. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's see how it goes. These were exactly the seven

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Speaker 1: Yankees players there. Yeah, who knows if it's even true,

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01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: what was what's out there? Widely thought that the Browns

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Speaker 1: wanted to keep all these guys. I'm sure you know

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Speaker 1: these teams have they don't share everything, like you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe they hated the roster and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're gutting this thing, and it's a complete rebuild. I

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01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: think they need to keep these guys in the building.

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and like other bad teams, when a

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Speaker 1: new regime comes in, you have a lot of mistakes

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: to try to overcome from the past regimes. And the

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Speaker 1: more you hear about what happened last year and the

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: year before, I mean it's gonna take time. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to do a patch job. If you're the there's

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01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: no way to do a patch job. I mean, the

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: whole is bigger than a patch. Mark you at Alexi

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: Max signing with the Jaguars. He went to the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So that costs you three sandwiches, and I think that

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: wraps up our sandwich props for UH day one. Finally,

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: in the news, Jeff Cumberland's time with the New York

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: Jets is over. The tight end who for many years

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: was my favorite player on the Jets. His ability to

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01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: um despite his size and lack of speed, Uh, he

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: was able to shake free in big spots, UH secure

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: the ball for up to eleven yards. UH gains after

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, not break a lot of tackles, but his

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: ability just to be a guy in the middle, taken

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: out of the offense, almost entirely by Chan Gailey. Um.

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01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: So now he's out the door, clear a little cap space.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to say, uh, you know, the

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: road rise to meet you. May the wind be always

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01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: at your back. Jeff Cumberland, Sweet Sweet Cumby, stay forever. Yeah, yeah,

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: what that just means that Sam Bradford will always be

1309
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: locked into the lowest production to publicity ratio on this

1310
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: podcast because I can't wait. Yeah, I came into the Jets,

1311
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: resigned him at a lower cost, like three weeks from now.

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: And it could be if you if you happen to

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, because you get mentioned somewhere, you will. Yeah,

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: Dad's never got to mention your game's over. Well, I

1315
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: mean listen if this is the end, and usually if

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01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: Rod Stewart gets played, it's the end. Um. By the way,

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01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: there's I wish I could say, who has somebody on

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01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: Twitter mentioned that song should be playing on this day?

1319
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: And I said, wow, that's appropriate. Get some late period Rod,

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: and it goes somebody on Twitter. Yeah, so I don't

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: want to steal that guy is idea, although I did

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: um appropriating it. It is what it is. Um now,

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Speaker 1: So god speed Jeff Cumberland, Sweet Cumby. Now we'll end

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Speaker 1: the show with a speed round because we have still

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01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: stuff to get to here, but we gotta go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is getting checky in the length of the show,

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: but we had so much so there's nothing nothing to

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01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: be ashamed of here. But I talked with Brandon before

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Speaker 1: the show to make sure we get through the speed

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Speaker 1: round as quickly as possible. I asked him to pick

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Speaker 1: a song from our music library that costs no money

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01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: and just to play that underneath. And that's how long

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01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: we have to complete this speed round. I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: pick a song that's obnoxious too, that really wants we

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Speaker 1: want to get out of here. So once the song starts,

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Speaker 1: will begin to speed round. You. By the way, Irishman,

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: just let us know when the song is kind of

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: halfway over, so we'll have to know we gotta keep moving, guys,

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01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: basically what I'm saying, all right, whenever the song begins,

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: we begin speed round. The Chiefs lose two draft picks

1341
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: for tampering with Jeremy Macklin last year. Guys, they lose

1342
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: a third round six round anti tampering policy. That's a

1343
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: pretty significant loss. Slap on the wrist third round pick

1344
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: Matos the first lose the first drunner for throwing a

1345
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: slight about Peterson's new team banging his old team. Mary

1346
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: naughty Kansas City, shame on you. At least you weren't

1347
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: pumping in fake crowd noise. Though, speaking of banging this song,

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of banging. I'm not I'm in on it.

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: Moving on, Kobe Fleaner, the former Colts tight end Indianapolis

1350
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: decided to choose Duane Allen West's boy over Kobe Fleaner,

1351
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: so he goes and he signs with the Saints, replacing

1352
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: Ben Watson, who signed with the Ravens. A good spot

1353
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: for Kobe flean Or, isn't it. West. I'm not wild

1354
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: about Kobe Fleaner. He's a soft player. He hasn't catch

1355
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: balls when anybody's need him. And I'm I like Dwayne

1356
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 1: Allen much better, one of the great punching bags of PFF.

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: By the way, um Moving on, Richie Incognito is remaining

1358
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: in Buffalo on a three year deal. Richie and Cognito, Mark,

1359
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: you wrote the post your thoughts on Richie coming all

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: the way back? No memory writing the post, but I

1361
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: will tell you that um, you know we talk about fits.

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: This is one of the few places that seemed to

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: be a good fit. Free incognito. Nice job, Rex, Ryan,

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: keep bringing in those all stars, Gregg, help me out

1365
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: with this name. George Georgia Loca George a loco and

1366
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: the Brown Bengals reach a five year contract uh thirty

1367
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: million dollars with the safety per source in formula. Do

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: you know what, Mark the Mangles. They do a great

1369
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: job keeping their guys in house halfway well, you know,

1370
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: with Mike Zimmer trying to sign every single Bengals player,

1371
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: this was like, this is one of the top five

1372
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: bargains of free agency. Mike Wallace has been cut. The

1373
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings released the wide receiver after one miserable season.

1374
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: Never a good fit. A Bernard deep guy maybe on

1375
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: the other side, and Teddy Bridge Warwer can't throw down field.

1376
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: That was never gonna work, right West, wasn't gonna work.

1377
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: Good play for the Ravens. Take Tory smiths ole job,

1378
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: oh oh, banged in a big spot by Chris Wesling.

1379
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: Taba okay, Taba Ali agrees to a three year deal

1380
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. He stays home, Greg Derek Johnson did

1381
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: as well. Very chiefs like free Agency just kind of

1382
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: stay on the tracks for tampering. Speaking of the Bengals,

1383
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: and I wish I put these back job back Chiefs

1384
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: by the way, Oh yeah, they kept Jay Howard to

1385
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorites during this show. That's gonna cost us.

1386
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: That was too much. Uh. Cornerback pac Man Jones three

1387
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: year deal. He stays with the Bengals. Great news for

1388
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 1: strip clubs in syd Ce. Matt Hasselbeck retires. He joins ESPN.

1389
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: I thought he's been on ESPN for like ten years.

1390
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: That's his brother. Helodi Nada is back to the lines

1391
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: on a two year deal. He was, of course sus

1392
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: replacement last year. Mark, I don't care. And finally Matt

1393
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: shop back to the Falcons, Mark with the final word,

1394
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: how much time do we have? Why does this person

1395
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 1: still have an employment situation? Because if you're a backup quarterback,

1396
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: the people like you stick around. It's not two thousand

1397
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: and ten, Kyle, have a heart. It's a home coming.

1398
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: Job to Atlanta is one of the great stories that

1399
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: NFL history. Go Sean john Beck, while you're at it

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: and we're out. We did it. Hit all the news

1401
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: how about it perfect perfect hit the post. I kind

1402
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: of like that was almost like a daft punk song,

1403
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: like a knockoff. Well, our Gene and I were like,

1404
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: you know what, what kind of song should we get?

1405
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna go disco. Let's play

1406
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: out with that song too in a couple of seconds.

1407
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: Great job today, guys, A lot of news that day

1408
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: is not over. Good show of horse. I wish we

1409
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: could all just leave and just head out. I'm leaving

1410
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: to the watering hole. Uh, you know, we wish we

1411
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: could leave with you, Mark, but West and I have

1412
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,480
Speaker 1: to hang back. Greg, you have to do boss activities.

1413
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: What we learned post make sure he checked that. Greg's

1414
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: writing it every day. That what we learned from Free Agency.

1415
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: This is the big day Wednesday. We will be back tomorrow, Friday, Friday, Friday.

1416
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday and we will do our

1417
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: winners and losers of Free Agency week, and uh, we'll

1418
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: have some fun while we do it, guys, because that's

1419
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: the thing about the show. And you got your analysis,

1420
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,919
Speaker 1: and you got your mirth, and you got your friendship,

1421
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: you got your disco, got your disco. So that's it.

1422
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: Mirth Vader. What a combo not to be confused with.

1423
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: Never mind, this is dann uh signing off for Quiet Storm,

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01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: the muscle Hamster, The Mailman. You can't call me that.

1425
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Patrick's gonna take offense. I can't believe by the way

1426
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: Patrick uses a whiteboard and writes down Slight said on

1427
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: the show, I've stolen over that yet. The Boss and

1428
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: the Irishman behind the glass. Beautiful work today, but you're

1429
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: really opening on Mount Rushmore. Producer Mount Rushmore. We're starting

1430
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: to just in pencils, the craftsman. You know how long

1431
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: it took to bill mont Rushmore, but to carve Mount Rushmore, well,

1432
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: it's not a real thing. We will back, but how

1433
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: long I don't know. But mom mail Man, over a

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: decade till Friday