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Speaker 1: On this edition of the Booth Review, I Brand Weinstein,

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Speaker 1: London Fletcher. How about that defense five turnovers and a

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Speaker 1: win in Detroit, London?

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Speaker 2: How about Jayden Daniels and the offense in the Lions, Dan?

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Speaker 1: And how about the biggest game in the long held

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Speaker 1: rivalry between Washington and Philadelphia. Winner gets to go to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's on next on a Booth Review.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth Review podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Microsoft Surface Powering a Better Game.

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Speaker 1: I Brand Whiteside with Big Fletch London Fletcher. First time

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Speaker 1: since I was in college, London, the Commanders are in

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game. This is wild. You're oh too?

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Speaker 2: So that was a long time ago, Man, you talk

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Speaker 2: about wild. Who could have imagined a year ago that

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Speaker 2: we'd be playing in the NFC champ Ship Game against

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Speaker 2: our heyday rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles, when Air advances to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. All this happened in the first year

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Speaker 2: of the Adam Peters Dan Quinn regime.

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Speaker 3: Man, this is just don't wake me up dreaming type moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many odd synergies that are going on

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Speaker 1: that I want to get to it's almost mystical in

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Speaker 1: some ways about what's happening here. But I want to

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Speaker 1: start with Detroit and what they did in Detroit, where

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Speaker 1: they had a short week. They're playing the one seed.

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Speaker 1: The one seed's got a historically great offense. But by

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Speaker 1: have accomplished, because it's unusual to go this far this

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Speaker 1: quickly with an new group like this, especially with a

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Speaker 1: what's next. We're focused on the next thing. They were

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of confidence in what was going to happen

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night and I'm sure you did as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it started like you see, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people will look at hey, we were underdog going into

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Speaker 2: we'll be happy with competing against the Lions, maybe making

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Speaker 2: a close gang. No, they went in there with the mentality,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get to the offense in a minute.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really think like there was an overestimation

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Speaker 1: People saw the highlights, saw the close finishes, like saw

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Speaker 1: And we've been in the booth every week and we're

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Speaker 1: They execute at a high level, They control the clock

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Speaker 1: Like the note that I saw going in That really

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Speaker 2: No, it lines up exactly what I thought. I thought

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Speaker 2: And I thought the the game plan, defensive game plan,

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Speaker 3: There was a I've had a chance.

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Speaker 1: They got five turnovers. I want to go through a

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Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised that you're still here today, Brah.

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Speaker 2: I'm about ready to beat my pants man, because this

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you hit that.

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Speaker 3: They love to run that play. A lot of teams

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Speaker 2: game throws a game winning touchdowns, whereas chaos all around you,

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Speaker 2: but you're able to slow your heart rate, settle in,

441
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: take a deep breath, and deliver in that moment. And

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: that's what that play that Mikey played was a version

443
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: of Jayden Daniel late game interception of game winner where

444
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: he's able to I mean late game touchdown game winner

445
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: that that Jaden would throw was the same version that

446
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Speaker 2: that Mikey had on that touchdown.

447
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Speaker 3: And I mean that interception.

448
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: Chaos going going all around him, slow your heart rate down,

449
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: make a play.

450
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you had this experience because you

451
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: played in the playoffs a lot, you find out who

452
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: your great players are in these moments. They step up

453
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they ever surprise their teammates

454
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Speaker 1: in any way or not, but this is where you

455
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: make your name. I'm gonna get to Terry in a minute,

456
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Speaker 1: because he's been he's been nails the last couple of

457
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Speaker 1: If you were wondering what is he going to do

458
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you've seen it now the first couple

459
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Speaker 1: of weeks. But like with Sadristill, with Latimore, who I

460
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: want to get to in a moment, Who's who's kind

461
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: of they didn't throw the ball at him, so I

462
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: think there was there's an underrated portion of this where

463
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Speaker 1: Latimer I want to get to with him. But like

464
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Speaker 1: what you're seeing, all the stuff that they did, the poise,

465
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: the time management, the execution, none of this is too

466
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: big for them. This is totally carried over here into

467
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: the postseason. But in this game in particular, some of

468
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: their guys made the types of plays that you make

469
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: legacies about and are the reasons why you keep playing.

470
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Speaker 1: And that's what's like invigorated me even more that this

471
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Speaker 1: is a team of destiny that we're what we're watching,

472
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Speaker 1: what we're being a part of. This is so unusual

473
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Speaker 1: and so amazing to watch.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you you you know, in those big games,

475
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: you always want your your best players to play well,

476
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: especially in the big games. But there's been some guys

477
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: about Diami Brown the playoffs, the first two games that

478
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: they had. They the catch that he that he made,

479
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: the d ball that he made against the Lions, and and.

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Speaker 3: The throw was just ridiculous.

481
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Speaker 2: That was a Yeah, i'msurd is exactly the right word,

482
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Speaker 2: the right adjective.

483
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Speaker 3: But you know, he's he's emerged as a man. He's

484
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Speaker 3: a big game player.

485
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: Some of the guys who made be rob having the game,

486
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: the type of game that he had, and there they're

487
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: gonna have. You know, your front line guys, you you

488
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: expected to play well and you wanted to play well.

489
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: But then there's some unsung heroes. I thought Trench Gott

490
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: came in having to and man, well we got to

491
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Speaker 2: talk about Sam Cosby and his his injury. Man, just

492
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Speaker 2: a tremendous blow. You know, I've been sick about that

493
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Speaker 2: over the last you know, a couple of days, just

494
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Speaker 2: with his loss.

495
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Speaker 3: But for Trent to come in.

496
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Speaker 2: He's he's a tackled by trade, forced to play the

497
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: guard position, and he went in there and he got

498
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Speaker 2: it done.

499
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Speaker 3: Played this preyed extremely well.

500
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Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of guys have emerged and made

501
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: some plays during his postseason. But you know, the big,

502
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: the big, big time plays, the big, big time playmakers,

503
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: they show up in these games.

504
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Speaker 1: And Jeremy Chin showed up. We saw the first week

505
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, remember those first that first series he came

506
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Speaker 1: to play.

507
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Speaker 3: It was obviously he came to play.

508
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Speaker 1: There was that one series where Dante Fowler looked like

509
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: he had jumped out of a closet and like murdered

510
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: somebody like he came to play. That was a war movie. Yes,

511
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: out a lot of scurvy.

512
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Speaker 2: That is just yes, like like, uh, you ever watched

513
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 2: those like the Animal Channel where they had the hunters

514
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: and the hunt. Yes, animals are going out to get

515
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: their prey. That's like National Geographic.

516
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: The gazelle's running and here comes the lion, right, you

517
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win in the end. That was that

518
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. That was so like, these guys are invigorating.

519
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: Even Sandristill too, on special teams, had a huge hit.

520
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: There were two big stops inside the twenty on special teams.

521
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Speaker 1: It's across the board that's happening here. I want to

522
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: get to Cosmi in a minute two and I want

523
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: to get to the offense. But I didn't mention Marcus Slattimore,

524
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: and I want to bring him up one more time.

525
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: The Lions didn't throw the ball at him. He was

526
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Speaker 1: extremely physical out on the edge. This is a very

527
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: good sign moving forward, his physicality. I think he's getting

528
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Speaker 1: his sea legs under him. I think he's starting to

529
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Speaker 1: trust his legs again. Obviously he's been dealing with soft

530
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: tissue injury for a long time now. Remember we've asked

531
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, who's going to cover

532
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: aj Brown? Well, that answer might be coming this weekend.

533
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: And if he's going to start playing at the level

534
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: that he used to and the reason that they acquired him,

535
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Speaker 1: it's just another reason to be extremely confident that this

536
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: defense is going to get better over the next game

537
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: and hopefully two games of this season.

538
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, Mashawn, he looked, he looked good. He looked

539
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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked extremely good. You mentioned the physicality

540
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: with the tackles. I was watching him. I told you

541
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: I was able to rewatch you know about the first

542
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: half of that game.

543
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: I was just watching his movement. He definitely looked more confidence,

544
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: more confident in his legs. He'll change the direction. There

545
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: was some his technique at the line of scrimmage. You

546
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: could see just the rust starting to come off. And

547
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: it's hard, man, you he's he's He's dealt with this.

548
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: He was dealing with that hamstream for over half of

549
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: the season. And it's for a cornerback to play that position,

550
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: you're going to being tasked with covering a lot of

551
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: times the fastest, if not fastest gallon on the football field.

552
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: You're back pedaling and changing, doing all those different things.

553
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: And against Mike Evans, Mike had made some plays with him,

554
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: and for a competitor like Mark Shawn, I knew he

555
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: was like he was chopping at the bed, like I

556
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: get a knot of opportunity, I'm about to lock in.

557
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go back out here and show

558
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: you who I am. And he showed him man, Like

559
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: you said, the physicality on some of the tackles, but

560
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: just in being so uh spot on exactly where he

561
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: needed to be from a cover standpoint, and this this, uh,

562
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Speaker 2: this is gonna be an epic matchup between him and

563
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Broad It was that first game. It was a it

564
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: was some questionable controversial p I against against him, But

565
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: I like to see this matchup again. And who knows, man,

566
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: this could be a situation these book both guys are

567
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: you know still uh, you know fairly in their primes.

568
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: This could be a battle within this division and for

569
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: championships to represent each team in the Super Bowl for years.

570
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: If I I think I called him Marcus, I don't

571
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: know why. I'm punch drunk like we keep playing these

572
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: night short weeks. I'm punch drunk. Sorry, Marshaan, I correct myself, Marshaan.

573
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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing too. Just with that, I don't

574
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: remember a time in a while where we've had two

575
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: corners now as physical as this at this capacity between

576
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: sanders Still and Lattimore, like they are very physical, good tacklers.

577
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Will they bring the heat both of them, like I've

578
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: seen this in a while on the edge like that,

579
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: with two corners like this at the same time year

580
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: and it.

581
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: Makes a difference, especially if you want to play cover two,

582
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: which we started to play a little bit more. I

583
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: don't know if that'll still be the case against the

584
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles now, you know, going against Saquan and trying

585
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: to play cover two against that offense, maybe you'll have.

586
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: To, you know, pick your pick your spots to do

587
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: it like that.

588
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: But regardless, even if you're playing a man fronts, teams

589
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: are cracking. They want to force the cornerback to be

590
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: the tackler, and those guys are willing tacklers, and and

591
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: that makes a difference. You look at this the secondary,

592
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Speaker 2: I thought, just you got me thinking about our secondary.

593
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: I thought, Jeremy Chim he led the team in tackles.

594
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: He made a bunch of tackles out of space. Kawhi

595
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Martin has been outstanding all year long, and his tackles

596
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: in the front of the post and overpel tackles.

597
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: So when you got guys like that in that back camp.

598
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: You know, it makes a difference in having willing guys

599
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: willing enable guys to make tackles.

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Speaker 1: One of the other big stories I think we both

601
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: agreed was going to happen where both teams are aggressive,

602
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: both teams will go for fourth downs. They were top

603
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: two in attempts at fourth downs. Washington was the best

604
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: at conversions this year. Detroit was very good at it.

605
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: But we've had this happen all year too, where Dan

606
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Quinn will say something at a press conference and you'll

607
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: hear foreshadowing of like what's going to come in the weekend.

608
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: And he mentioned this a couple times. He wasn't talking

609
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: about the Lions. He was talking about the Commanders, but

610
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Speaker 1: I think it applied to the Lions where he said

611
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be bold, but not reckless. And we could

612
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: argue over a couple of the fourth down decisions. I

613
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Speaker 1: think the one like going back to Tampa Bay, if

614
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: there was one I would have had over. I probably

615
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: would have taken the points in the fourth quarter one

616
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: where they had first and goal at the one and

617
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: they were going backwards it decided to go for it anyway,

618
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: didn't get it. Fortunately it worked out any way, they

619
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: got to turn over, won the game anyway. Like in

620
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: this game, I don't really have an issue with any

621
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: of the fourth downs they went with, but bold not

622
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: reckless is kind of the way that they looked at it.

623
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: The Lions for three years running now have been bold

624
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: and reckless numerous times they have made decisions that backfired

625
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: on them. I cannot believe when they were down in

626
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: the second half they called a play for a wide

627
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: receiver to throw a pass. I can't believe that they

628
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: called that, and I love that Sandra still was standing

629
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: there waiting for.

630
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: It or the past. The play call was not the issue.

631
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: It was the decision to throw the football that was

632
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: the issue. They had the trick play had worked for

633
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: on the with the reverse to Jameson Williams, and they

634
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: had scored sixty one reverse that The play call wasn't

635
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: the issue. It was the decision to throw the football.

636
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I'm sure they had to

637
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: tell Jamison, Hey, if it's covered, do not throw this football.

638
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they were expected.

639
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't articulate that well enough to him, like

640
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: they maybe say, hey, they thought we were probably gonna

641
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: be in a man coverage and you'll get him against

642
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: a linebacker, and you may want to take take a

643
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: chance with Jamiir Gibbs in a linebacker one on one situation.

644
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: That wasn't the case. We were at his own coverage

645
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: and you got Mikey saber Steel with vision on the

646
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: quarterback just looking at and waiting on, waiting on him

647
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: to throw the football. So it was it was a

648
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: decision to throw the football. That that was that was poor.

649
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: He should just random like tuck it away, run.

650
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: The ball so you get what you can get.

651
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to me though, Like, and they

652
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: did a lot of these. I'm not surprised they had

653
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: a bye week. They do a lot of trick plays.

654
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: They run a lot of creative stuff, but it's just hubris,

655
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: like at some point, like you're just you can move

656
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the ball effectively. We couldn't stop Jamir Gibbs. Nobody can

657
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: stop this guy. He might be We've gotten to see

658
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: the great running backs in the NFL that shop. We've

659
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: seen Saquon twice, so dare Henry once. This guy's as

660
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: good as either one of them this year. He is

661
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: a dynamic, fast, incredible vision, extremely tough, hard to get down.

662
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: He had a game. But these guys, you know, they've

663
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: done this and it hurts them at times. A backfires

664
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: and that play, I mean, I couldn't believe at that

665
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: point of the game, when they were trailing to do that,

666
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.

667
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: I think part of it too you just mentioned a

668
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: trailer piece how much of the way our offense was

669
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: able to move the ball against their defense that they

670
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: may have felt pressure to call up, pull out all

671
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: the punches and go for that trick player at that moment,

672
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: because they're feeling like, hey, if Washington's going to force

673
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: us to dincon dunk, you know, be methodical and scoring touchdowns,

674
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: we may not have enough possessions to you know, win

675
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: this football game. Part of that may have played into

676
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: the equation for Nan Campbell and me and Johnson saying, hey,

677
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: we got to be we gotta be bowl. We got

678
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: to dial up a trick playing things like that because

679
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: of the way our offense would scorn and with such

680
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: great ease against Deions defense.

681
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: You know, largely to one of the reasons why I

682
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: was very confident going in was and this was the

683
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: part I think everyone in Detroit who was overestimating this

684
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: team failed to see it put blinders on a bout,

685
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: which was this is just too bad that this happened

686
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: to them. They had too many injuries on defense, they

687
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: had too many guys on ir they were missing too

688
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: many people, and down the stretch of the season like

689
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: they had a really good win against Minnesota, but that

690
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: was an anomaly compared to the previous three four five weeks,

691
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: where they were giving up over a month stretch an

692
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: average a four D and twenty yards a game, thirty

693
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: two points a game over the course of a season.

694
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: That would be the worst defense in the NFL. So

695
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: them being favored the way they were favored, and the

696
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: over confidence, in my opinion, all read to me like,

697
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: you haven't watched star offense play. We could score on anybody,

698
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and your defense is getting shredded. And so I knew,

699
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Like this goes back to the beginning of the conversation

700
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: we're having here. I knew Washington was gonna score like

701
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I had no no, like they weren't slowing them down.

702
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels was not going to have a Sam Darnold game.

703
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: That was not going to happen. The only question I

704
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: had was would we score enough? That's it?

705
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh looking back at that uh, that Minnesota game,

706
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: and there were a lot of players that Sam just

707
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: didn't take advantage of, and and then uh pigging back

708
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: and when they lost that cornerback Robertson, So that made

709
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: a thin group even thinner, and it just just eventually

710
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: caught up to those guys. I also I also thought

711
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: our ability to get the run game going was was

712
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: key in that ball game. B Roy ran physical uh

713
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: great play calling too. There was the formations and Logan

714
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: touched on this a couple of times throughout the broadcast.

715
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: How the formations that Cliff was was given the lines

716
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: was really it was a great great identifiers for for

717
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Jaye and Hayes. Own Man identifies the motions things like that.

718
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: There was one of the the Eckler runs. They had

719
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: two double wide stacks and that makes the box really light,

720
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: and then they pulled they pulled on a what we

721
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: call a C fold block and he gets up to

722
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: the linebacker and Eckler makes a makes a great run

723
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: out of that. I can't remember exactly how many yards

724
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 2: that was, but just stuff like that from a formation's

725
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: play calling and also them being thin and you know,

726
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: just uh just end up catching up to those guys.

727
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did. Let me get to je I'm going

728
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: to read some of the numbers that Jason, our producer

729
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: provided for us, and they're all just again they're just

730
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: mind blowing that He's like, you have to remind yourself

731
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: He's a rookie on throws of ten plus yards in

732
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs fifteen of nineteen, two hundred and ninety two

733
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: passing yards, two touchdowns, ninety three point seven passing grade.

734
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Remember they haven't turned the ball over once and they've

735
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: punted once in two games. Daniels is tied for the

736
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: most wins by a rookie quarterback in NFL history in

737
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: a single season, fourteen with Ben Roethlisberger. He can break

738
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: that this weekend if they win. Daniels registered three hundred

739
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: and fifty combined yards passing and rushing, number two all

740
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: time by a rookie in any postseason game.

741
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: Ever.

742
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: He is having the greatest rookie season of any quarterback

743
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: of all time period. It's not close with one exception,

744
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: which I'll get to in a minute, but I want

745
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: to stay in the current times. He has been beyond

746
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: expectation throughout the year every time, though we haven't seen

747
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: it at this spot or this place or that spot,

748
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: and you need to see it. It was his first

749
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: playoff run and he is acting like these are regular

750
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: season games and he's just got this. And you mentioned

751
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: the throw to Diamie Brown that was unbelievable, unbelievable play

752
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: that he made.

753
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: Eventually, Brad, as we continue to see him do it,

754
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to start saying these are believable because

755
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: he just he just continues to do it. But the

756
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: the the the Lions tried everything they could, bringing pressure,

757
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: zero blitzys, you know, simulated pressures. They tried everything, and

758
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: he was in just total command of that offense. Think

759
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: about this, That dawn was the loudest that I can remember,

760
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: you know, the loudest environment that I can remember, and

761
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: I played in some loud, loud places, but that place

762
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: was rocket.

763
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: He had such a great command of that offense.

764
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Not one single false start, think about that, not a

765
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: single false start.

766
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

767
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: But just his ability to know on the on the

768
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: touchdown to Terry, he saw the Lion's zero bliss, the

769
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: safeties were down and they knew he had an opportunity,

770
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: gets that ball out, Hey throws out to Terry and

771
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: let Terry do the rest. And there was a number

772
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: of occasions that he did those types of things, even

773
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: escaping the rush and making things happen with his legs.

774
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: It's and I mean, he just he the work that

775
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: he puts in the poison. Then this is just unreal.

776
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Like you said, that's nothing I've ever seen.

777
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: On Terry too. This is second time this year. Now

778
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: I know he's fast. We all know he's fast. He

779
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: has a gear that he could hit, and it's the

780
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: second time we've seen it. He did it in the

781
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Dallas game, remember the gamer. He caught the pass and

782
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: he broke all like weave through everybody and hit the

783
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: gas in the way I haven't seen him hit it,

784
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: and unfortunately missed the extra point and they lost that game.

785
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: This one too, he hit a gear that like almost

786
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: as if someone had like he was like on jet

787
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: skis and they pulled the rope and just pulled him

788
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it was like boom, he

789
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: like took off. He hit a gear I haven't seen

790
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: him hit before.

791
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: Now he did, and he's he talked about I had

792
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: you have some issues getting down to the to the

793
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: locker room in detroitce I interviewed Terry before you got there,

794
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: and it was uh. He talked about running through the

795
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: smoke and being like hey like being fitscal getting wanted

796
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 2: to get better run after run. After catching the Dallas game,

797
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean that was we say fifth gear, that was

798
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: the sixth gear, and then the same thing, like I

799
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: know in those moments, just like nobody's catching me in

800
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: and man, he's been on a tremendous run too. And

801
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: in these playoffs. I mean, well the whole entire season,

802
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: how many touchdowns is he up to?

803
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: Now?

804
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: It's fifteen now because he had won in each of

805
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: little off games, he had thirteen, which was was a

806
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: franchise record single season with the one that he caught

807
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: in Dallas. You know what I really am happy about

808
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: for him too, is I think he's going to get

809
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: the national respect now that he deserves. I mean, for

810
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: years he's gotten the you know, hey, we know he's

811
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: really good. But he's not justin Jefferson, or he's not

812
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, or he's not this guy. He's a number

813
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: one receiver in every in every way, shape and form,

814
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: with the way that he conducts himself, his work ethic,

815
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: the way he represents the organization, his competitive drive, his

816
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: ability to get better. And if and when there comes

817
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: a time that he actually could be up for the

818
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the first thing I'm going to show

819
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: the voters is here's all the quarterbacks he played with

820
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: before he got to Jayden Daniels and tell me how

821
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: he got to these numbers. It's because of who he

822
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: is and what he's about. And I'm very happy for

823
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: him that he's having legacy defining moments in these playoffs

824
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: as well.

825
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, when when you when you've gone through the

826
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: things that he's gone through, and it's Santanna talks about

827
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: this a lot of when you play quarterback, when you

828
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: play receiver, you're at the mercy of obviously the offensive

829
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: line and the blocking, but the quarterback that you the

830
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: quarterback or quarterbacks that you play with, because you can

831
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: you can run a great route, you can be open

832
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: and something for one reason or another, the ball may

833
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: not come to you, or it may not come to

834
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: you accurately or on time, and all those different things.

835
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: So you're really at the mercy of some things outside

836
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: of your your control. And for Terry to put up

837
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: the numbers that he's put up and not not complained

838
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: when he could have complained, not be even early in

839
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: the season. I think the Tampa Bay game, you know,

840
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: the first Tampa Bay game just two receptions. There was

841
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: the first Philadelphia game in Philly, we had just one

842
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: reception for ten yards. And I have been on teams

843
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: where your number one receiver win, lose, or draw if

844
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: he didn't get the football.

845
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: Often in the ball game.

846
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: That offensive coordinator knew about it, the head coach knew

847
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: about it, the teammates knew about it.

848
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: It was a time where I was attained where a

849
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: guy literally.

850
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: He was the number one guy, So they're rolling coverage

851
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: to him, and the number two guys is having a

852
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: day because you know that's just how it was, Like

853
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: they're doubling you man, and the number two is having

854
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: a day. There was a critical I think third down

855
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: or fourth down situation. Well he refused to go on

856
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: the field because they weren't giving him the football. And

857
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: for Terry to carry himself in the matter that that

858
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: he carries himself in, you can't be nothing but three

859
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 2: or for the season that he's having.

860
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to give you other one other weird number.

861
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: And I know this stuff like probably only appeals to

862
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: me and all the knucklehead lifer fans that like leap

863
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: read into these numbers, But like we're having a really

864
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: special season. We've linked all these things that have occurred

865
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: throughout the year to all these things that have happened

866
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: in the past, I believe that in the modern NFL,

867
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is having the best season any rookie quarterback

868
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: has ever had. He's broken a ton of records, and

869
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: if they are to win on Sunday, he will be

870
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: the first ever rookie quarterback to start in a Super Bowl,

871
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: and if you were to win it, obviously the first

872
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: and only rookie quarterback to ever win the Super Bowl.

873
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: So I think all definitions of what the great rookie

874
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: season looks like will get changed and there will be

875
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: a new baseline for what it will look like. Good

876
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: luck catching it. But maybe the greatest rookie quarterback season

877
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: ever is actually in this franchise as well. It's Sammy Baugh.

878
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: This is from a different era, but he won a

879
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: championship as a rookie in nineteen thirty seven, and in

880
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: the championship he threw for three hundred and thirty five yards,

881
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: which is a lot now by these standards, but back

882
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: then was ridiculous. Redefined what quarterback play could be in

883
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. Eating passers in the nineteen thirty seven season

884
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: averaged about one thousand yards a year. Like they didn't

885
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: throw the football very much. That three hundred and thirty

886
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: five passing yards that he had in an NFL championship game.

887
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: It took until twenty twelve until another rookie broke that

888
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: in any NFL playoff game. Sammy Baugh had the greatest

889
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: rookie season by any quarterback ever. Jayden Daniels in the

890
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: modern NFL can surpass it. And the weirdest synergy. To me,

891
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: and maybe this is only interesting to me, is this,

892
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: for the first time in thirty three years, Washington is

893
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: playing in the NFC Championship and potentially for the first

894
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: time in thirty three years, will be playing in a

895
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Sammy Baugh wore number thirty three. It's just

896
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: bizarre to me. It is, Man, who is your researcher, Moses, Moses,

897
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: My wife and family will tell you this. All I

898
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: do is think about this team.

899
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, you tell about you going back to

900
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty seven, man, Yes, yeah, that's uh, that's great stuff.

901
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: Great nuggets too.

902
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: As soon as you mentioned Sammy Bong, like the first

903
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: thing I thought of, like, we'ren't even throwing a forward

904
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: pass back there.

905
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: No, here's the one thing Sammy's got on Jayden Daniels.

906
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: Sammy Ball was the punter of that team too. Let's

907
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: see you do that one. He is wearing number five.

908
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he should I bet, I bet he could put too.

909
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put anything past him.

910
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: Probably. All right, let me get back you mentioned sam Cosmy.

911
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: Let's spend a moment on that. That's a big loss

912
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: for this team moving forward. You know, every team has injuries.

913
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: You know, Detroit had a ton of them. We just

914
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: talked about it with them. Washington's had some this year.

915
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, Noah Brown going out in the middle of

916
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: the year was a really big deal for them. They

917
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: had to try to figure out who was going to

918
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: become quote unquote the number two receiver. John Allen was

919
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: out for a long time. They finally got lucky they

920
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: got him back. They missed Eckler, They really missed Eckler

921
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: for that month that he was out. Every team has

922
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: injuries and prominent ones, but this one feels really big

923
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: to me, and especially this week where you know what

924
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: kind of problem that Washington's had with Jalen Carter and

925
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: Milton Williams, who's underrated had a very good year in

926
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: the interior defensive line for Philadelphia. This is a big loss.

927
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: So I wonder how you're thinking about Washington trying to

928
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: overcome not having cosme moving forward.

929
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

930
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: First, first of all, you feel bad for Sam because

931
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: he's a warrior, leader on that offensive line, leader on

932
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: the team. Just just feel devastated for him. When you

933
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: saw the injury, the initial injury, you were hoping and

934
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: praying that it wasn't. Seriously did you get the news

935
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: and he posted that it was his ACM. So you know,

936
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: once you get past the hurt for him, then you

937
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: had to turn and say, oh, shoot, they got Jalen

938
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Carter too, and Jalen was going to line up He

939
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: lines up a lot too our right, which is where

940
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: Sam Cosmey plays, So they would have been you know,

941
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: those guys would have saw each other a lot. But

942
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: you know it's a hey, we don't we don't have

943
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: to come up with a game plan for him to

944
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: deal with him. I saw I was watching the rams.

945
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: They had they had four heads. Jayalen Carter allowed to

946
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: try to live in his impact in that ball game,

947
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: So you know you have to you have to, you know, uh,

948
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: do things from a schematic standpoint game planning standpoint to

949
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: account for for him and Tris Scott, who I'm assuming

950
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: he'll probably be man that position again, you know, as

951
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: the starter of this week. He's a veteran guy. You

952
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: know he'll he'll study and have a have a game

953
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: plan and you know we'll be we'll be up for

954
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: the task. But yeah, definitely feel bad for Sam.

955
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's someone who's been through it here and

956
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: deserves to be part of this run. And it really

957
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: it's just terrible too that he's not going to be

958
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: part of it. Uh, he'll be there in spirit obviously,

959
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: but he deserves to be out there. And I think

960
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: it's just so it's so hard to the I want

961
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: to see how they go. You know, Chris Paul is

962
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: an option here. I know he's been inactive a lot,

963
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's an option here obviously, probably will

964
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: be active now and up at bare minimum as a

965
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: backup at the position. And I agree with you. I

966
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: thought to ask Trent Scott to just run in there

967
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: and do that when he's when he has played has

968
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: been is either as a swing tackle, a tackle or

969
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, the extra tackle when they go into a

970
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: jumbo situation. That's a big ask of somebody to go

971
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: in there and do that, and I thought he played

972
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: really admirably. So we'll see what they do by the

973
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: end of the week. All right, before we get into Philadelphia. Uh,

974
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: we got to do the Championship Belt. It's time for

975
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Big Fletch's Heavyweight Commander Championship Belt. It's presented by Northwest

976
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: Federal Credit Union where trust matters. The champion was Jaden Daniels,

977
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: who is the contender this week?

978
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: Ah Man So Jaden obviously he had a he had

979
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: a great game last week and then contented. It was

980
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: a It was a lot of a lot of guys

981
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: that I had to kind of sign for through and

982
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, I had to go into the lab and say, okay,

983
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: who who who could be the guy that challenge Jaden?

984
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: And some of the guys I consider, I considered be

985
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Rob b. Rob had you know, fifteen carries, seventy seven yards,

986
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: he had two Russian TVs. He was, he was an option,

987
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: he was he's a contender. I should say he's a contender.

988
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: I thought Austin Eckley did some nice things the Army

989
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Brown six catching ninety eight yards.

990
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: Terry.

991
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: Terry had a great game four receptions eighty seven yards,

992
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: had had the fifty eight yard touchdown. Then you flip

993
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: to the defensive side. You have Mikey samer Steel. He

994
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: had the two interceptions. Jerry Chen twelve tackles, led the

995
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: team in tackles, also had an interception.

996
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: Pick somebody, pick somebody.

997
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, this is called drama, man, I'm building up.

998
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 2: This is the build up, man, the build up. So

999
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: the guy that I've got the challenge Jaden is Mikey

1000
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: savag Steel. You go back and you have two interceptions,

1001
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: you got you gotta make him a challenger. But so

1002
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: Jayden had to Mikey had two interceptions. Wasn't enough to

1003
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: dethrow Jayden. Jayden's game two ninety nine yards, two tds

1004
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: QB rating up QBR of ninety one point eight, flawless

1005
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: offensive performance and still big Fletch's heavyweight combat. This championship

1006
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: belt stays with Jayden.

1007
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: Daniels.

1008
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: Listen, I know I have no vote in this, but

1009
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: this one is a split decision. I thought you were

1010
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna give it to Sanderstill because the defense had to

1011
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: stop the best offense in the league at Sanderstill. The

1012
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Michigan man goes back to Michigan and pulls off two interceptions.

1013
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna get it.

1014
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wasn't.

1015
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: You wasn't enough to dethrow Jayden nearly threw for three

1016
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: hundred yards man to TNS, and he was flawless.

1017
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: He was famed that.

1018
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: They couldn't do anything really against They didn't fluster him

1019
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: in that environment. Not one single false star penalty on

1020
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: offense all those days taken had to be taken into consideration.

1021
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: That's why he remains the chap.

1022
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Mike Big Brams Welterweight Commander's Championship bell

1023
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: to Mike Sandras. Still yeah, all right, h yeah, you're

1024
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: my champion this week. All right, here we go. World

1025
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: War three Philadelphia Washington. Biggest game in the rivalry's history.

1026
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: I'd mentioned this earlier. They've only played once in all

1027
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: the years that you know they've been in the same

1028
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: division and rivals, they've only played once in the playoffs.

1029
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: It happened back in the nineteen ninety season. Memorable. We'll

1030
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: talk to B. Mitch, I'm sure this week because that's

1031
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: the year of the famous body bag game that Washington

1032
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: that B. Mitch was forced to play quarterback after a

1033
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks got injured. In that game. They lost

1034
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: to Buddy Ryan's Eagles, but got payback in the playoffs

1035
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: and defeated them before their season would end a week later.

1036
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: So this is only the second time they've ever played

1037
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, obviously the first time ever with a

1038
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: chance to go to the Super Bowl. This is gonna

1039
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: be something else London.

1040
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: It really is.

1041
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: Man. You thought we thought Detroit's environment was was electric.

1042
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: Can you imagine what is going to be like.

1043
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: Sunday at three o'clock walking into that stadium.

1044
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: You know, the bus is pulling into the stadium.

1045
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of one finger salutes and other

1046
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: things to welcome us into the into that environment.

1047
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like your dog does right now.

1048
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: I know they're normally they they're ready, they're ready to

1049
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: bring some recavoc.

1050
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: But the man, I can't wait for that game because

1051
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: everything is on the line, Like the physic catally is

1052
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: going to be.

1053
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: We had an all time high. Yeah, the emotions are

1054
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: gonna run high.

1055
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to make sure you control your emotion

1056
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 2: emotions in this ball game.

1057
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: The build up, all of the build up to this game.

1058
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: The media coverage is going to be unlike any we've

1059
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: seen in a long long time. It'll be probably any

1060
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 2: that we've seen because back in the nineties there wasn't

1061
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: the social media aspect. The Internet wasn't like it is now.

1062
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 2: So the media build up is going to be bananas.

1063
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be I can't wait. I

1064
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: cannot wait.

1065
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: So I think one of the big keys, and we're

1066
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: taping this on Monday, so I don't know. Obviously, we

1067
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: don't know, and they're not going to say anything about

1068
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: it at least until Wednesday, when Nick Sirianni and Jalen

1069
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Hurts have to speak to the media. And I don't

1070
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: know that we're going to really know his relative health

1071
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: until the game gets there. But Jalen Hurts got injured yesterday.

1072
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: He hurt his knee got bent over backwards. He had

1073
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: missed the last couple of weeks of the season because

1074
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: of head injury concussion that I actually occurred in the

1075
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: Washington rematch earlier this year, but the knee injury obviously

1076
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: is oft is of greater concern currently right now. They

1077
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't do a tush push at the end of that

1078
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Rams Eagles game, which they almost always would on the

1079
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: goal line, and they're speculating on the broadcast, and I

1080
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: don't think they're wrong to speculate it that they didn't

1081
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: because they didn't feel like he was healthy enough to

1082
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: do it at that moment. Then he started rolling out

1083
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he wasn't really running the ball.

1084
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: He was trying to get rid of it. His relative

1085
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: health is going to be huge in this game.

1086
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: No, And when I saw when I saw the hit

1087
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: man you it looked it looked like a nasty hit.

1088
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: I was wanting to like, was it potentially growing issues

1089
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: he's going to I'm sure he feels bad right now

1090
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: because Nord of course the game and that adrenaline is going,

1091
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: so you're still feeling okay. But it's that that day

1092
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: after and the days after where the information starts to

1093
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: set him, the swelling starts to set him. I'm sure

1094
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: he'll be getting around the cloud treatment to try to

1095
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 2: get himself ready to go. I feel like, you know,

1096
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: I think he'll be able to play in that game,

1097
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: but well, is he going to be one hundred percent?

1098
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Is he going to be able to operate in the

1099
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: matter that he wants to fully operate. I'm not sure

1100
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: what the temperature is going to be that day, but

1101
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: cold weather or colder weather will, uh, we'll play a factor,

1102
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: and how you feel and those types of things. So

1103
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: it's a it bears watch him at you know, Fulfilly,

1104
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: I know their life.

1105
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: Man.

1106
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: We hope he can go, but there's something that's gonna,

1107
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: you know, play a major part of this ball game.

1108
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would assume now it goes back to

1109
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: what we're talking about earlier, where it's a very different

1110
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: cornerback tandem. It's suddenly Washington's bringing in. I think you're

1111
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna trust Lattimore at Sandrastill maybe a little bit differently

1112
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: than you had previously. I think you have to find

1113
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: out Ken Jalen hurts run. I think you definitively have

1114
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: to try to force them to throw. So Object one

1115
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: obviously is to slow down Saquon Barkley in night game

1116
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: for the entire game. Were they able to really do that?

1117
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: He had a huge first half in the rematch. Once

1118
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett came in, they suddenly had a lot more

1119
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: effectiveness than slowing down the run game in the first

1120
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: matchup actually limited him in the first half. It was

1121
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: in the second half where he ripped off a couple

1122
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: of big runs and ended up with some really big

1123
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: numbers and kind of salted the game away in the

1124
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So obviously stopping Barkley's a big deal. What

1125
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: do you remember about the first couple of matchups that

1126
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: shows you maybe the direction they're going to go to

1127
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: try to slow him down a little bit.

1128
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was as you were thinking, I was like,

1129
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 3: how can we mess?

1130
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: Kind of mess those two performances, the first half performance

1131
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: from Philly in the first game and then the second

1132
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: half performance against Philly in the second half.

1133
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: From a run defensive standpoint, I.

1134
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: Think one thing we did we were a lot more

1135
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: physical at the point of attach said playing a stay

1136
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: in our gaps, and when we stay in our gaps,

1137
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: we're putting good run defense. There are times where even

1138
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: against the Lions, there's situations where we get out of

1139
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: our gaps. Were and these backs, especially the patient backs

1140
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: like a Sa Kwan, the Jamior Gibbs, they'll they're patients,

1141
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: so they'll act like they're about to, you know, dip

1142
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: into one hole. Get you to get out of out

1143
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: of your your gap you're supposed to do and next thing,

1144
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, they're cutting back and getting big games through

1145
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: those of those gaps that you've vacated. So you have

1146
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: to stay patient and in your gap and don't leave

1147
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: it until you know for certain he's acrossed a lot

1148
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, get off blocks the uh. There's also times

1149
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: where we might spin out of a spin out of

1150
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: a gap. You can't do that with these with these

1151
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: great backs, like like Sakwan it is, you have to

1152
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: maintain great gap integrity, big be uh.

1153
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: You know with the.

1154
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: Corners you mentioned the corners, we'll probably look at more

1155
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: eight man fronts as opposed to like you'll show your disguises.

1156
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: But there will be times where hey, we're going to

1157
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: be obviously gearing up to stop the run corners. Hey,

1158
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to be a little bit more on

1159
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: an island, a little bit expose a little bit more.

1160
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: So maybe that's that's kind of within the game plan too.

1161
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a situation where you have

1162
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: to understand it's an all day affair.

1163
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: We all have to be in our gaps all day,

1164
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: all play long.

1165
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: And if we do that, I feel like we'll run,

1166
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: we'll be able to play a lot better run defense.

1167
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think they have this motto. It's worked

1168
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: all year, anyone, anytime, anywhere. I think there's one more

1169
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: they could add this week, which is any type of game.

1170
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Last week we thought maybe they would be in a

1171
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: track meet. They hadn't really been in one of those,

1172
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: and they kind of were. Second quarter was crazy. It

1173
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: was the most combined points in any NFL playoff game ever.

1174
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: Forty two points were scored in that second quarter, So

1175
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: they showed they can play in that. We saw how

1176
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: they played against Tampa where they had to limit a

1177
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: team run the clock, control the clock. They were able

1178
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: to do that. They've won some lower scoring games against Philly.

1179
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: They want a higher scoring game where they had to

1180
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: come back with a bunch of turn This one reads

1181
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: to me, London early like a low scoring If you

1182
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: make a big mistake, it's gonna really hurt you in

1183
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: the end. Type of game either side. With Hurts seemingly

1184
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: somewhat marginalized here, we'll see this weekend and Washington, with

1185
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,959
Speaker 1: an offensive line that already struggled against that defensive line

1186
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: is now missing one of their best players. Points I

1187
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: think are going to be very hard to come by.

1188
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: And then we'll have to see what the weather is.

1189
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: Obviously this weekend up in Philadelphia's outdoors, you know, in

1190
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: the winter, want to see what the weather is. This

1191
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: screams a low scoring old school NFC East back from yesteryear.

1192
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Let's who's gonna hang in there till the end type

1193
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 1: of game.

1194
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 3: To me, what's your definition of low'scorn.

1195
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: Twenty to seventeen, seventeen to thirteen, something like that. I

1196
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: think it's good. I think both teams are going to

1197
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: have a hard time scoring this weekend.

1198
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. This is I can see. I

1199
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: can see it.

1200
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: Maybe twenty four to twenty one good, maybe Burgady and go.

1201
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm confident.

1202
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm confident. But I think this

1203
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: game is close, and just the way it's kind of

1204
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: going into it with their quarterback and the condition that

1205
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: he's in our offensive line, and the condition that's in

1206
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: the fact that their defensive line has kind of had

1207
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: their way in the first two games. Anyway, it just

1208
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: feels like this is going to be hard point both sides.

1209
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: Hard to come by. Points are gonna be hard to

1210
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: come by here.

1211
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: Points are going to be at a premium.

1212
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: One thing ball security is going to be at a

1213
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: premium too. When I mean, yeah, every game you always

1214
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: talk about this turnover battle.

1215
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: Can you win a turnover battle?

1216
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: And you know your odds increased greatly if you win

1217
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: that turnover battle in turns of winning a game.

1218
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: So especially going on a row, hey.

1219
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: Can we get can we manufacture short fields, go for

1220
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: it on fourth down like we've done, be able to

1221
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: execute in fourth down situation.

1222
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: So but I think, uh, I know they will go.

1223
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: They're going to have a great game plan going against

1224
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: the egos again. This is that vig fan Joe defense.

1225
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: This is the third opportunity that that.

1226
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 3: We've had against them.

1227
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: Now, the first time we were so banged up and

1228
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: just man short week and all those types of things.

1229
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: But now a little bit more opportunity to get healthy,

1230
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: you well healthy or than we did the first time,

1231
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: but with the exception of Cosmy. But it's also the

1232
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: third opportunity. We've seen all their stuff, they've seen a

1233
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: lot of our stuff. So you know, who, how can

1234
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: you figure out a way to make some plays and

1235
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: get chunk plays at that?

1236
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: All?

1237
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Right?

1238
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: Last thing, you played a lot of playoff games. Did

1239
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: you ever play a division team where you had the

1240
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: third meeting in the playoffs. Did you ever get one

1241
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: of those?

1242
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't think. Yes I did. Yeah, played the Saints

1243
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: in the.

1244
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Wildcard round back in the two thousand season, and we

1245
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: were the road team. We played them, actually we played

1246
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: a week back then week sixteen or the final game

1247
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: of the regular season, beat them at their place, then

1248
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: had to turn back around and come back and play

1249
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: them at home again.

1250
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: Do you recall that being any different because of the

1251
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: familiarity between the two teams?

1252
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: Ah, No, not really.

1253
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: It was just it wasn't any It was the intensity

1254
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: was greater and it was already intests anyway, just because

1255
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, I written our normal battles and we were

1256
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: kind of having a good run during that during that

1257
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: time in that division. But the uh, the same stay.

1258
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: They went out, they pulled out all stops.

1259
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: At one point, they had some some.

1260
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: Voodoo people walking around on the fields pretty siously pre

1261
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: uh pre game. They had out what you call it,

1262
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: and they're call themselves cursing the end zone and all

1263
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: this types of things.

1264
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: Man, it was.

1265
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: It was weird, weird stuff going on and that building.

1266
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: So a bunch of my teammates, the Christians on the team,

1267
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: they come out and they start praying over the area.

1268
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: That that the uh yeah, that the praying over the field.

1269
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

1270
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: It was some spiritual battle goal spiritual battle taking place

1271
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: in that in that doll.

1272
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles fans might be cursing the end zone,

1273
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: but it's going to be a more conventional voodoo that

1274
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: we're used to this weekend.

1275
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1276
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: No, this this, it definitely is a difference in the

1277
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: ball game because what's at stake this is this is

1278
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: for the opportunity to represent yourself.

1279
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: You're you're represent and the super Bowl for the NFC.

1280
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: In this in the summer, I didn't foresee this. By

1281
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, I thought it was very possible,

1282
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: and I know you did too. I can't wait for Sunday.

1283
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: This is an amazing ride and I don't think they're

1284
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: done yet. So let's see what happens when they get

1285
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles this weekend up in Philadelphia.

1286
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't wait. Man, I know these guys

1287
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: gonna be ready.

1288
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for the Booth Review. We'll

1289
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: talk to you next week post the NFC Championship Game.