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Speaker 4: What a throw from Justin Herbert?

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Speaker 5: Money Smith and Daniel Jeremiah, our friend on KFI. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert with a dime down the field to Quinston

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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 4: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 5: Nick shook us with me all the way from Cleveland,

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Speaker 5: Chargers win twenty to nine. Welcome if you're joining us

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Speaker 5: live on YouTube, if you're listening in the morning, or

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Speaker 5: wherever you find us. We're hitting both the Monday night

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Speaker 5: football games in this show. We are going to start

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Speaker 5: Texans Bucks game had a little more to talk about,

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Speaker 5: but Nick, I'll just start here. This looked like a

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Speaker 5: about a lot throughout the course of this season in

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Speaker 5: In back to back primetime appearances, and a team in

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Speaker 6: They absolutely shut down the Raiders and anything that they

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Speaker 6: the score does not reflect how dominant the Chargers were tonight.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think that explains a lot of their struggles tonight,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, they're one and one.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about Brady a little bit?

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Speaker 6: I mean, do you want to talk about his prem

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Speaker 5: No, I don't care about the flag football, the flag

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Speaker 4: Did you know that.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like he was trying to get off

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just blame.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's add in the fact that the league kind

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Speaker 6: Now you can do it over zoom. Still can't be

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Speaker 1: You're right, it's not state secrets now.

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Speaker 5: Right now he's going into the meeting. Now he's going

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Speaker 6: You're right, yeah, yeah, it's just the conflict of interest

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Speaker 1: I don't like it either.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, and I think this would be

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Speaker 5: Well, look, there are one of the teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: If Tom Brady has any thing to say about it.

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Speaker 5: And I think they'll be competitive this year. Although it

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Speaker 5: think it's notable justin Herbert keeps running so much, get

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Speaker 5: He played a good, confident game tonight and getting all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you should feel vindicated too, because I feel like

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Speaker 5: might have helped them out a little bit to get

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Speaker 5: a head start.

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Speaker 4: But they'll have to beat the Broncos next.

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Speaker 6: But but I'm also a little worried how that's going

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Speaker 6: to look when.

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Speaker 1: We get to November and December. Okay, let's just say it.

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Speaker 5: Let's not worry about the charger reason the marathon, it

445
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Speaker 5: did really kind of look like they tried the charger

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Speaker 5: it away. But so they're different this year. They're they're complete,

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Speaker 5: they can win games different. Okay, let's talk Bucks and Texans.

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Speaker 5: If you're listening on audio, let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to the Bucks and the Texans.

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Speaker 5: And yes, it came down to the very end.

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Speaker 7: Mayfield such back in motion, hands the ball on shot

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Speaker 7: White into the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Is the in? Is he in?

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Speaker 3: Touchdown? Tampa Bay touchdown? Tampa Bay Buccaneers take the lead

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Speaker 3: at twenty to nineteen. We're shot White right up the cut.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's Jeem decker Hoffa alongside Dave Bore for w

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Speaker 4: f US.

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Speaker 5: On a night where the Bucks running game had a

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Speaker 5: success rate that you know, I would have accepted like

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Speaker 5: on a math test back in high school. They run

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Speaker 5: the ball in at the very end after Todd Bowles,

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Speaker 5: of all people, manages the clock apps beautifully. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 5: did it again. They didn't score Nick for seven straight

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Speaker 5: drives before Baker Mayfield got the ball back with a

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Speaker 5: couple minutes to go, and when he got the ball back.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but I thought, oh, he's

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Speaker 5: gonna go score a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, he did it, Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 6: The instant cries of you score two quickly Texans were

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Speaker 6: proven to be correct. Baker Mayfield is a magician. He

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Speaker 6: is a ball of fire disguised by a Buccaneers uniform.

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Speaker 6: He's somebody that you can rally an entire team around.

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Speaker 6: You know, back in the day when the Browns dratsed

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Speaker 6: him first overall, John Dorsey drafted first overall because he

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Speaker 6: walked into the facility at Oklahoma and made a little

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Speaker 6: like call to his teammates and they all responded. Because

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Speaker 6: he's a leader. He's a guy that players will rally around,

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Speaker 6: and he's a guy that players will trust. In a

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Speaker 6: moment of a high leverage moment, a moment of adversity,

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Speaker 6: you're on the you're playing primetime, the stadium's lot. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if the roof has closed or open, but

482
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Speaker 6: I'm sure it was loud regardless, and he goes right

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Speaker 6: down the field. He converts a fourth down by slipping

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Speaker 6: what would have been a game ending sack or at

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Speaker 6: least a sack that would have put them in a

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Speaker 6: bad spot because they still have their timeouts, and then

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Speaker 6: he continues to just dot the sideline with passes. They

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Speaker 6: managed to clock not perfectly, at least from the coaching side,

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Speaker 6: but because Baker's out there, they manage it well and

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Speaker 6: then they.

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Speaker 4: Pounded in there just about perfect.

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Speaker 6: What did you have a problem with, Well, I felt

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Speaker 6: like they kept the time out in their pocket when

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I necessarily would have had them

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Speaker 6: do it, but it paid off because then they were

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Speaker 6: able to run the ball in the goal line because

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Speaker 6: they had that timeout.

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Speaker 5: They kept their timeout s, which to me kept the flexibility.

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Speaker 4: You're right there.

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Speaker 5: There was a chance that they would have only had

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Speaker 5: time to run one more play after this, but probably

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Speaker 5: not with six seconds left. I honestly think it was

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Speaker 5: one of the best managed two minute drills that I've seen,

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Speaker 5: in the fact that they kept those timeouts in their

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Speaker 5: pocket and then we're able to run it. There is

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Speaker 5: a feather in Todd Bowles's cap and Josh Grizzard the

507
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Speaker 5: Lizard King. What I always forget what Jordan's lizard lick

508
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Speaker 5: from Lizard Lick man.

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Speaker 4: He got it done.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the fourth down play to Baker Mayfield, so yeah,

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Speaker 5: let's set it up here. I like I mentioned two

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Speaker 5: minutes and ten seconds left. They have the ball on

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Speaker 5: the twenty, so not great field position. Had gone seven

514
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Speaker 5: straight drives without a single point after two touchdowns to

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Speaker 5: start the game. They're playing without their two starting tackles.

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Speaker 5: Tristan Wurf's not yet ready to play. They're all pro

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Speaker 5: left tackle. They did have Luke Geticky start this game

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Speaker 5: at right tackle. He actually looked great, I thought on

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Speaker 5: the first drive, which was a touchdown drive. Then he

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Speaker 5: comes out. They still score a touchdown on their second drive.

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Speaker 5: After that, you kind of saw the hard hitting Texans

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Speaker 5: defense do what they do and really shut down Tampa.

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Speaker 5: So that's the sequence that sets it all up. First

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Speaker 5: three plays of the drive, Nick no yards, incomplete pass,

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Speaker 5: a completion that doesn't go for anything. Baker, like he

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Speaker 5: was most of the night, is under a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 5: And then we get to fourth and ten and the Bucks,

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Speaker 5: rather the Texans send another blitz, maybe one blitz two many.

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Speaker 7: Nineteen fourteen Houston Bucks have one more down, fourth down

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Speaker 7: in chan can Baker Mayfield pull something out? Of the

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Speaker 7: hat and convert on fourth down and long. Here's the snap.

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Speaker 7: Here comes Heat picked up nicely. Mayfield in the pressure.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna run Mayfield with the forty Mayfield with the

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Speaker 3: forty five yard line. He's tripped up with the forty seven.

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Speaker 3: So Baker Mayfield. That's a better Baker does his thing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is time for delivering results by Uber Eats,

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Speaker 5: and let's have our Baker conversation, because he absolutely delivered that.

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Speaker 4: That was a play where he saw the.

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Speaker 5: Pack pocket collapsing around him. And I think in that moment,

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Speaker 5: like every Texans fan and I live with one, he's

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Speaker 5: ten years old and he's asleep by now, thought the

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Speaker 5: Texans were gonna win that game. And then Baker just

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Speaker 5: does what he does and escapes and flips over in

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Speaker 5: true Baker style, and then calms down afterwards. And it's

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Speaker 5: crazy because it's like, if you're a Baker hater, he

546
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Speaker 5: gives you like those bad moments for you to say, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: he got lucky, Like early on he threw a ball

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Speaker 5: in the triple coverage that should have been picked. He

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Speaker 5: fumbled the ball twice in this game, including a fumble

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Speaker 5: where he punched the ball out of his own hand.

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Speaker 5: It was it was bizarre, like he had bad moments

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Speaker 5: and yet when when it really mattered, he comes up

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Speaker 5: with that big play and that's becoming like the defining

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Speaker 5: thing in what is you know, just a fascinating career.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, in the biggest spots, when it seems

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Speaker 6: like the chips are stacked against him, he pulls off

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Speaker 6: not quite racles with something close Like Henry Toto had

558
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Speaker 6: a great game tonight and he was the guy blitzing

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00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 6: kind of a late arriving blitzer that was there to

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Speaker 6: sack Baker on that play as we just played. If

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Speaker 6: you're watching on YouTube, and I don't know how he

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Speaker 6: slipped that sack. I mean, Toad's almost over pursues a

563
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 6: little bit, but like there's not a lot of space there.

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Speaker 6: He slips it like it's nothing and takes off and runs.

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Speaker 6: And as soon as that he takes off, you realize

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Speaker 6: the middle of the field is open. But in classic

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Speaker 6: Baker fashion, he doesn't slide. He's like, bring on the contact.

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Speaker 6: He battles multiple like knee issues suffered in the first half.

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Speaker 6: I was shocked he was out there after one of them.

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Speaker 6: The slow mo replay, his knee gets bent in awkwardly.

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Speaker 6: He grabs at it immediately and you're thinking, oh no,

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Speaker 6: not another quarterback to go down in week two, gets

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Speaker 6: right back up, gets back on the field, he runs,

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Speaker 6: He scrambles on that play, or it might have been

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Speaker 6: an earlier play where he bangs his knee on the

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Speaker 6: turf and grabs his knee again, and then CJGJ ced

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Speaker 6: Deuce is in his face talking trash and instead of

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Speaker 6: being like, oh my knee, Baker understands the moment, stands up,

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Speaker 6: gets in his face and immediately starts talking trash back,

580
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Speaker 6: because Baker's never gonna be talked down when it comes

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Speaker 6: to trash talk. Like he is the He defines the

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Speaker 6: energy of this team, and it's just like they did

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Speaker 6: in Atlanta last week. They're in a tough spot. Most

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Speaker 6: teams lose in those situations. He has no fear, goes

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Speaker 6: right down the field, hits Abuka for the touchdown last week.

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Speaker 6: This week, he makes all the plays to set them

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Speaker 6: up for the rushing score. That was the top story

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Speaker 6: from this game was the way that he finished the game.

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Speaker 6: It's something that we just have to come to expect

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Speaker 6: from him in these key moments. Now you can never

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Speaker 6: count him out. Just there's like four quarterbacks you can't

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Speaker 6: count in these situations. Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 6: and Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Like those first three year are like, oh well, those

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Speaker 6: guys all one MVPs. And then there's Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 4: Actually you just look at last minute I.

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Speaker 1: Would throw I would throw Herbert in there.

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Speaker 6: I know that people would push back against that. I

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Speaker 6: would throw him in there in my own private conversations,

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Speaker 6: maybe not publicly. Yet those four though, I would put

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Speaker 6: my life on the line thinking they're gonna go win

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Speaker 6: this game because of who he is. And like we

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Speaker 6: haven't even talked really a lot about how well they

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Speaker 6: were running the ball and how they did defensively, And

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Speaker 6: yet it's because Baker dominates the conversation because he's that

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Speaker 6: special level player he is.

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Speaker 5: And I think this almost replaces his Rams game as

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Speaker 5: the quintessential Baker game because of all the reason yes

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Speaker 5: that I said, because he actually only averaged four point

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Speaker 5: five yards per attend They were inefficient tonight, and he's

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Speaker 5: a streaky player, but he had enough very good moments

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Speaker 5: including the touchdown to Abuka early, the first couple of drives,

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Speaker 5: and then the plays that mattered late. But they would

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Speaker 5: not have won this game, as you mentioned, if it

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Speaker 5: wasn't for the running game. Let's let's talk a little

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Speaker 5: bit about Bucky Irving goes seventeen for seventy one on

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Speaker 5: the ground, also catches six passes for fifty yards Rashad

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Speaker 5: White who gets the game winner there, great job in

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Speaker 5: terms of pass pro and then ten rushes for sixty

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Speaker 5: five yards. They had a sixty three percent success rate,

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Speaker 5: which is just outstanding. You get extra points that it

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Speaker 5: came against this Houston Texans defense. Compare that to thirty

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Speaker 5: three percent for the Texans. They almost double them up there.

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Speaker 5: And you think about the play calling that the Texans

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Speaker 5: had near the goal line where they decide to throw

627
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Speaker 5: the ball after getting stuffed once near the goal line

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Speaker 5: with Nick Chubb and he goes backwards, they decide to

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Speaker 5: throw the ball twice. Meanwhile the Bucks. It was good

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Speaker 5: running blocking for sure for a lot of the night,

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Speaker 5: but I also felt like a lot of that success

632
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Speaker 5: rate is Bucky Irving turning a negative play or a

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Speaker 5: one yard run into a five yard run or a

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Speaker 5: seven yard run or a four yard run and keeping

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Speaker 5: them on schedule. He really is a special running back.

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Speaker 4: Bucky Irving.

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Speaker 5: Mashad White's great too, but man, Bucky Irving makes something

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Speaker 5: out of nothing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Bucky Irving has the explosiveness and the swiftness to

640
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Speaker 6: kind of like slice and dice knife through a defense

641
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Speaker 6: to turn what looks like when he first receives the

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Speaker 6: handoff maybe a two yard gain into a nine to

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Speaker 6: twelve yard gain. And he didn't have a ton of

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Speaker 6: plus ten yard runs tonight, like his average was I

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Speaker 6: think around four yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: It was four point two.

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Speaker 6: But make no mistake, he paced this ground game and

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Speaker 6: we knew what he was capable of because of what

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Speaker 6: he did last season. The beauty of tonight is that

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Speaker 6: he's not the only guy in that backfield. Rashad White

651
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Speaker 6: lost his job to Bucky Irving last year because Bucky

652
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Speaker 6: was clearly the better option. They're both pretty damn good.

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Speaker 6: They're both also good as three down backs. It's rare

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Speaker 6: that a team has two guys that they can lean on.

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Speaker 6: His three down backs that you could deploy at the

656
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Speaker 6: same time and keep a defense, you know, guessing even

657
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: more because they're both out there and they combined for

658
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 6: what was it, one hundred and thirty six yards on

659
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Speaker 6: the ground. I mean, that's that's great production right there,

660
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Speaker 6: success strate sixty three percent. You said you'd take that

661
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Speaker 6: on a mathess You're like, okay, all right, Like, I

662
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 6: guess we're taking low grades here, but you know who

663
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: grades the running backs to have low grades?

664
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

665
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: That they got the only D I think in my

666
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: life in freshman like it was I think it was

667
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: Honors math, and it was a good lesson for me.

668
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: I then dropped down a level the next few years

669
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Speaker 5: in math.

670
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Speaker 4: It was a first.

671
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Speaker 5: It was really the first time in my life I

672
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: was like, oh, you can't just get away with everything

673
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: by like by talking and by like not trying that

674
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: particularly hard. At some point you're going to come up

675
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: against something that you just can't overcome with that. It

676
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: was a good lesson. Shout out to miss du Gray,

677
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: who taught me a tough lesson in life. So yeah,

678
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Speaker 5: I took I took a D and I'm not gonna

679
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Speaker 5: apologize for it. Look that that was delivering results, by

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Speaker 5: the way, presented by Uber Eats, where you can get

681
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682
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683
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: It's not too late, you could now. I mean we're

684
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 5: hearing from people overseas. It's morning in Dublin, it's afternoon

685
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: in Australia. I'm actually gonna be heading over to Dublin

686
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: next week. Don't know if I've officially mentioned that on

687
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: the podcast. Going to be part of a live show too,

688
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: by the way, where there's some tickets with the Irish

689
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: NFL show. Michael McQuaid very excited about that, So go

690
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Speaker 5: check out his socials, my social to get tickets to that.

691
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Speaker 4: That's on Friday night.

692
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Speaker 5: I'm just decided, let's throw some plugs in there, shook

693
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: before we get to the Texan side of things, and

694
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Speaker 5: then go to bed because it's one in the morning.

695
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Speaker 4: One thirty in the morning where you are here in Cleveland.

696
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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we gave Bulls the props for managing the game.

697
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: I think they're much better. They actually hired one of

698
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: these game management assistant which more and more coaches and

699
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: organizations are starting to do. And maybe he gets some

700
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: they get some credit to, but I think this improvement

701
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: started a year ago. I think is a real well

702
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: run organization. They have a lot of injuries, like they're

703
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: missing their two starting tackles. That could have been an excuse.

704
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 5: And Baker Mayfield was under a lot of pressure. Why

705
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 5: Will Anderson had nine pressures in this game. Daniel Hunter

706
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 5: had two sacks. But when you look at the pressure

707
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: rate and you look at the blitz rate and everything,

708
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 5: the Texans actually in the bucks in terms of their

709
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: pass rushers were about a draw. Like, the pressure rate

710
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: was about a draw, and the Texans actually had to

711
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 5: send like a lot of blitzes to get their pressure rate.

712
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: And so if you can make that a draw while

713
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Speaker 5: you're missing your two tackles and you're going up against

714
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: this great Texans pass rush, that's a win.

715
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Speaker 4: That's good coaching.

716
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Speaker 5: I just think they're really well coached despite having a

717
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Speaker 5: brand new offensive coordinator. And then on the other side,

718
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 5: I think Todd Bowles has his mojo back. He was

719
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 5: sending the heat tonight and he finally has a secondary

720
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Speaker 5: he can trust again. And the group that's kind of

721
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 5: the safety Nickel group, Antoine Windenfield, Tike Smith, and the

722
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Speaker 5: rookie Jacob Parrish. He can be very multiple and these

723
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: guys can tackle and they're versatile and they're really good.

724
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Speaker 4: And Todd Bowles was in his bag.

725
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Speaker 5: I know they've only won by four points over two weeks,

726
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 5: but they were playing pretty good opponents. I am really

727
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: impressed with what the Buccaneers are doing from a coaching

728
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 5: and just organizational perspective so far.

729
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the four point victory margin over the

731
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Speaker 6: two weeks is an example of coaching. Like I think

732
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Speaker 6: that they've put themselves in advantageous positions and made up

733
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Speaker 6: for the absences, especially a tackle by coaching. Like I

734
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 6: was so impressed by the way Grizzard called his game tonight,

735
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Speaker 6: Like I just thought that his flow was great, he

736
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 6: sensed the situation and called the right plays really well

737
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 6: consistently over this night. I mean, obviously, like we said,

738
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Speaker 6: Bucky Irving kind of elevates that running game. But they

739
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 6: were well balanced, they were paced well, they moved down

740
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Speaker 6: the field when they scored, they did it effectively. It's

741
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Speaker 6: just that when you face that defense, especially on the road,

742
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: in an environment like that, you are going to run

743
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Speaker 6: into some you know, three and outs of ugly scenarios.

744
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Speaker 6: But overall, I was very impressed and I actually had

745
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 6: the thought my head damn it, they're gonna do it again.

746
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 6: They're gonna lose an offensive coordinator for the third straight year.

747
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 6: They have the third straight you know, new offensive coordinator

748
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Speaker 6: and there, and they're still gonna be successful. Wizard from like, yeah, yeah, Lizard,

749
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 6: the Lizard Lick kid, the Lizard Lick guy is gonna

750
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 6: end up looking at head coaching jobs after this year.

751
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how they keep getting away with this,

752
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and yet they do because of you.

753
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Speaker 6: Know, I think a large part because they have Baker

754
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 6: Mayfield on the field. But yeah, great job of coaching

755
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Speaker 6: on both sides. And I picked up on those blitzes

756
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 6: too from Todd Bowles. It feels like he's back in

757
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Speaker 6: his comfort zone, getting aggressive again, still being short in

758
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Speaker 6: his halftime interviews.

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Speaker 1: That's who Todd Bowles is.

760
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Speaker 6: And I thought it was a stark contrast against the

761
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 6: current state of the Houston Texans and maybe this is

762
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Speaker 6: where we transition because I have issues with the way

763
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Speaker 6: the Texans coach this game. Tonight.

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Speaker 5: I was, you know, really proud of finding the text

765
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Speaker 5: from Jordan that said King Gizzard the Lizard Wizard from

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Speaker 5: Lizard Lick Do.

767
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 4: You know that?

768
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Speaker 6: But that's actually inspired by what there's there's actually a

769
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Speaker 6: music artist named King Gizzard, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I know, I and other references big song, rattlesnake,

771
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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No I don't, okay, So yeah, the offensive line

773
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: for the Texans, they started well and they played fairly well,

774
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 5: I thought tonight against the four man rush. The problem

775
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: wasn't their individual abilities, although it wasn't amazing. I thought Ursery,

776
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: who is back at left tackle now, actually played okay.

777
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 5: I thought he played pretty well. But the communication of

778
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: picking up the blitzes was so poor yea that the

779
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: second Todd Bowles realized that it just was blitz on

780
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Speaker 5: every key down And in the end CJ. Stroud under

781
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: pressure goes three for eight for twenty five yards and

782
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: took four sacks, and he did not have much of

783
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Speaker 5: a chance. And by the end of the game, even

784
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Speaker 5: when the pressure was picked up decently, he was panicking

785
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: a little bit and had that one throw that should

786
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: have been intercepted where he just like was just trying

787
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: to get rid of the ball and not you know,

788
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: drop back before they wound up kicking a field goal

789
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Speaker 5: and got very lucky.

790
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Speaker 4: And so this is a group that's ragtag.

791
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: It's a new center, you know, replacing an injury, and

792
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: it was otherwise mostly the group that they had in

793
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 5: the preseason. But you know, they're guys that weren't very

794
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 5: effective a year ago in the spots that they had

795
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 5: in a rookie and a replacement, and it's a bummer

796
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 5: for them to look so much like they did a

797
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: year ago in this game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because we were sold a bad bill of goods

799
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Speaker 6: in the offseason. Oh, we just need to change the

800
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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator. We need to make changes on the offensive line.

801
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: Will be in a much better place. We were even

802
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 6: sold that they were improved during training camp, and yet

803
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 6: here we are again watching CJ.

804
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Speaker 1: Stroud get baking a shot.

805
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm one of the people that tried to sell it

806
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: a little bit.

807
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 6: No, I was sold that by the people who were

808
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 6: at Texans camp. I was writing those things up in

809
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: the summer, like I was ready to buy into it too.

810
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 6: Demiko said he had his starting five solidified. We talked

811
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 6: about it on the show, and yet we're still watching CJ.

812
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: Stroud get you know, be forced to be uncomfortable. He's

813
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: just he doesn't trust his offensive line still. And the

814
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 6: biggest issue with it is not the fact that they

815
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 6: aren't holding up well, especially when you have these changes.

816
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: That's understandable. It's not the fact that they couldn't run

817
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 6: the ball effectively tonight. That's also understandable. It's the way

818
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 6: that they called the game. I'm sorry, but if you're

819
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: anticipating a blitz on third down called up by Todd Bowles,

820
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 6: a guy who's notorious for sending pressure and knows that

821
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 6: he can send pressure and find success, can you anticipate

822
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 6: it in your play calling a little bit?

823
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: Can you not lean on the pass? Like you look

824
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: at the run pass ratio in this game.

825
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 6: It seems very even because they did run the ball

826
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 6: a little bit more in the later stages, which kind

827
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 6: of evened it out. But there were stretches in this

828
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 6: game in which they were just passing, passing, passing and

829
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 6: not turning to the run at all and getting nowhere

830
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: with it. And there were so many times where CJ.

831
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 6: Stroud would drop back and have nowhere to go with

832
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 6: the football. Now, if you have offensive line issues, you

833
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 6: can call screens. You could, you know, potentially roll out

834
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: your quarterback. They didn't roll him out by design until

835
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 6: it was fourth and goal and gave him like one

836
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: option to throw to and of course he sails it

837
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 6: over the guy's head. Because like, this offense is just stuck.

838
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: They're in a rut. And I think that it could

839
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 6: be fixed with some better play calling in anticipation for

840
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 6: the situation.

841
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: And this is a first year offensive coordinator. He's gonna

842
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: learn this.

843
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 6: But it just frustrates me because you're you're putting your

844
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 6: quarterback who is good in a bad situation to the

845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: point where now he's missing throws when he's not pressured.

846
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Speaker 1: And that's really what concerns me the most. The effects

847
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: from last year are bleeding over into this.

848
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: Year and it's undercutting your entire offense and making you

849
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: lose games like this tonight, a game that you very

850
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 6: much had a chance to win.

851
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would give the grade for CJ. Stroud as

852
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: a seat tonight. There were good moments. I will stand

853
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: on the table and take all the stock people are

854
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 5: giving away in CJ.

855
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: Stroud.

856
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm taking it, and I'm.

857
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: Believing wholeheartedly in two things from tonight. CJ.

858
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 5: Stroud is going to have a great NFL career and

859
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: it is a very good quarterback right now.

860
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Yes.

861
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: The other thing was this game was entertaining as hell.

862
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: They put on a good show. It felt like a

863
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: playoff game. Granted, it felt like, you know, a early

864
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 5: playoff game, like what you know West? Why am I

865
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 5: blanking on? You know that the early Texan slot.

866
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: That that oh west of Us? West of its My

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: brain is shutting off.

868
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Speaker 5: After the last week, it felt like a West of

869
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: His game because they were absolutely hitting.

870
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: It was tight. You didn't know what was going to happen.

871
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 5: There's a lot of great players on the field, by

872
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: the way, like we're watching Derek Stingley Mike Evans matchup

873
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Speaker 5: all night, which is going back and forth, and ultimately

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Speaker 5: I think Stingley got the better of that nine targets

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Speaker 5: while Stingley was in coverage only three catches thirty six years.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot to like.

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Speaker 5: There was an incredible couple drives to start the game

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Speaker 5: before it settled down into the defensive struggles, so you

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Speaker 5: saw different types of game. Hell, there was a great

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Speaker 5: Kevin Harlan call on an absolute dime from CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 5: where Nico Collins tapped his toes. Let's listen to that call.

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Speaker 2: At the twenty nine of Tampa Bay under center.

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Speaker 3: It'stroud first and ten shotgun snap left tackle, block, arching

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Speaker 3: spiral passed down the near sideline en zone, over the

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Speaker 3: shoulder catch once.

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Speaker 2: Again, Collins touchdown. The Texans have scored on a twenty

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Speaker 2: nine yard touchdown pass by cj'stroud Nico Collins in the

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Speaker 2: end zone, both feet down, over the shoulder, grab six

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Speaker 2: nothing Houston.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I love Kevin Harlan on Westwood One. So the bad

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Speaker 5: memories late in the game, you know, when he got

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Speaker 5: a little panicked, which felt like they were gonna get erased.

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Speaker 5: After Jalen Noel has that long field goal return, and

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Speaker 5: then Nick Chubb has a moment where I wondered for

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Speaker 5: a second did the Bucks let Nick Chubb score there

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Speaker 5: to get the ball back?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Todd Bowls was asked about that, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. But Nick Chubb gets the touchdown

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Speaker 5: to cap that off that set up the Baker mayfield

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Speaker 5: winning drive. There was a lot of drama, a lot

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Speaker 5: of fun in this game, and I will defend this

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Speaker 5: game to the Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, even though I just completed about the Texans for

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Speaker 6: five minutes, I was very thoroughly entertained. Also, it was

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Speaker 6: nice to see Nick Chubb rip off his longest run

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Speaker 6: since Week seventeen of.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty two season.

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Speaker 7: That was good.

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Speaker 6: Twenty five yards for that touchdown. That was good to

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Speaker 6: see him. He's a great guy. Glad to see him

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Speaker 6: back in the end zone. Yeah, we were entertained. This

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Speaker 6: is going to be in my top five games of

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Speaker 6: the year so far. I think, oh, yeah, that's bold

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Speaker 6: number five.

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Speaker 5: We're making that list on NFL dot Com every week.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I appreciate you. I do think we've

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Speaker 5: gotten to the end here of the show. I did

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Speaker 5: want to update one injury situation from this game. Elijah Knty,

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Speaker 5: who I thought looked outstanding for the first five quarters

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Speaker 5: of this season, has a pectoral injury. Mike Garifolo of

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Speaker 5: NFL Network says there is fear that it could be

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Speaker 5: a season ending injury, but they are going to get

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Speaker 5: an MRI, get further tests to make sure there are

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Speaker 5: different pectoral tearors in terms of severity, and there's at

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Speaker 5: least a chance, as we're recording, that it won't be

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Speaker 5: the worst possible result. But Canty, to me, was a

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Speaker 5: really important part of them finally figuring out their four

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Speaker 5: man rush shook because I think even though the Texans

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Speaker 5: offensive line was.

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Speaker 4: Bad, I think it's a little underrated.

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Speaker 5: How this group up front with Asan Redick, who had

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Speaker 5: a lot of pressures tonight, and then Vita Vea and

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Speaker 5: an underrated player in Yahyaddabi with Kanty, that was a

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Speaker 5: really good group. And unfortunately it looks like they're going

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Speaker 5: to miss a key part of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, and I'm worried about their depth in replacing him.

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Speaker 6: You saw in the replay on that play, as soon

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Speaker 6: as he suffered the injury, one of his arms just

941
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Speaker 6: kind of drops, like suddenly, He's like, oh, I can't

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Speaker 6: your whole from at least my experience anything in that area.

943
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Speaker 6: When it happens and it's relatively severe, your whole arm

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Speaker 6: kind of goes numb.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it looked like.

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Speaker 6: So I hope for the best with him, but you know,

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Speaker 6: hopefully he gets good news, but if not, the Buccaneers

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Speaker 6: are gonna have to figure out how to replace him.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to everyone who joined, Thanks to everyone who is

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Speaker 5: listening to each and every show.

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Speaker 4: We know we do a lot.

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Speaker 5: It's right there in the name. We love doing it

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Speaker 5: for you. So that's it for our Monday night recap show.

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Speaker 5: There will be three more doubleheaders Shook this year. I

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Speaker 5: didn't check. I think they might all be these you

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Speaker 5: know stat where they're staying up like very late. I

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Speaker 5: will check that schedule and so a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a change. I believe this is the last year though,

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Speaker 5: of these double headers. Rodrigodell doesn't like it, so enjoy.

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Speaker 5: We've only got a few more of these left. But

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Speaker 5: we will be here every single Monday night with you

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Speaker 5: live on YouTube and then of course in your podcast feed.

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Speaker 5: We will also be back in the studio Colleen Wolf

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Speaker 5: making her return to the Chris Westley The Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 5: To see you next Tuesday. Crew, Me, Colleen and Jordan.

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Speaker 5: We will go through all the injury situations. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy's out and David Daniels might be out, and

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow's out for three months.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot to talk about. It never ends

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Speaker 4: on NFL Daily. We'll see you Tuesday,