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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith. The Titans fell in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to three, dropping their record to one and

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Speaker 1: two on the season. I had a chance to sit

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Speaker 1: down with Mike Vrabel on Monday to discuss what happened

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Speaker 1: against the Browns and what comes next as the Titans

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Speaker 1: host the Cincinnati Bengals. Here's my conversation with Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: on the OTP. Mike, what were the things that you

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Speaker 1: tried to get accomplished today at Ascension Saint Thomas Sports

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Speaker 1: Park with this football team.

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Speaker 2: Well, just corrections and may continue to point out the

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Speaker 2: things that we're good that we need more of, you know,

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Speaker 2: correct the things that.

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Speaker 3: We did that that affected.

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Speaker 2: Our performance, and then try to eliminate the things that

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Speaker 2: get us beat. It's it's about staying consistent and you know,

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Speaker 2: continuing to do some of the things that that help us,

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Speaker 2: but pointing out that there are certain ways that we

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Speaker 2: can't play, you know, I mean, we we can't get

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Speaker 2: behind uh in this in the sticks and if we're

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Speaker 2: not efficient, you know, we have a trouble tough time

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Speaker 2: converting you know, third and lungs like like a lot

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Speaker 1: Right now, what are the things that you saw from

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland game that you considered positives that you'd like

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Speaker 2: Well, when we offensively, when we did get into a

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Speaker 2: drive or we you know, there were a few runs

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Speaker 2: that when we were able to recognize the front get

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Speaker 2: them blocked. You know, we were able to get you know,

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Speaker 2: some some eight and nine yard gains. You know, we

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Speaker 2: had an explosive down the field, had DPI down the field,

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Speaker 2: hot made a play down the field, but then the

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Speaker 4: So that was.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's just troubling. You know that we can't

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Speaker 2: continue to keep the consistency going. Defensively, you know, we

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Speaker 2: to create third and long. So just didn't create enough

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Speaker 2: third and longs. I thought we punted the ball extremely well.

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Speaker 2: I thought special teams gave us, you know, a winning performance.

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Speaker 2: But you know, just to had the one turnover on

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Speaker 2: But that just you know, we need to get some

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Speaker 2: just just didn't tackle the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: In terms of protection issues, one thing, a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things. What did you identify from the tape study today?

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Speaker 2: Well, getting into the third and law creates certain issues

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Speaker 2: you know, with with with with players like Miles Garrett

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Speaker 3: I mean there was times where we blocked them and.

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Speaker 1: You made clear after the game that you weren't pleased

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's one game and you

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to be accountable to our actions, to

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Speaker 3: Work and to find a way to win a game

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Speaker 1: Nicholas petit Frere still suspended for three more games, but

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Speaker 2: He can can wait, train and condition strength, train, can

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Speaker 2: Did some nice things inside playing Nickel played physical, triggered, tackled,

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Speaker 1: All right, Cincinnati is the team you turn to again

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Speaker 1: this week A Monday night game for them as they

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Speaker 1: played the Rams tonight, not knowing the situation with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: How much does that change how you begin your preparation

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got great skilled players. You know, they've got

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Speaker 1: That's my Monday talk with my Mike Rabel. Hey, Titans

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Speaker 1: fans want to remind you it's always game on with Duncan,

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Speaker 1: So grab a coffee and kick off the action. Whether

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Speaker 1: game at home, Duncan is always there to help you

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Speaker 1: get your game on. Just like the pros. We need

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Speaker 1: to be at our best come game time, which is

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Speaker 1: why Duncan is the most important part of your game

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Speaker 1: day ritual. It's always the best call for football America

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Speaker 1: runs on Duncan. The OTP continues as we bring in

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Speaker 1: my partners from Titans Radio RHT Brian and Ramone Foster. Ramone,

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Speaker 1: I want to start and I want to ask you've

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Speaker 1: the Titans were going through today after a disappointing loss,

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Speaker 1: where you walk away saying what in the world was that.

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Speaker 1: You've been part of offensive lines who I'm sure have

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Speaker 4: First and foremost, the easiest thing you can do is

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Speaker 4: go back to work. That's one thing professionals always say

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Speaker 4: to themselves at the end of the day. Let me

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Speaker 4: get back to the basics. Let me figure out what

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Speaker 4: I'm doing wrong. That's what tape is for, That's what

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Speaker 4: If it was, you know, a game called winning, that's

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Speaker 4: all it would be. But sports is all about adversity.

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Speaker 4: Sports is all about you figuring out a way to

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Speaker 4: show your to minimize your weaknesses and always come out

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Speaker 4: on top. What happened to the Titans against the Browns

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Speaker 4: mostly because I don't think the entire unit was getting beat.

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Speaker 4: It was almost player to player. When you have those

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Speaker 4: And that's where I've been in those situations because it's

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Speaker 4: that are good are Brulyianni's Hey, you sucked on that play,

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Speaker 4: How much of this week is about pride? A good

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Speaker 1: Ret Brian, I think Jim Schwartz is an outstanding defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Be, and probably even more so than even in seasons past,

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Speaker 4: He does have it in him. But it's the idea

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Speaker 1: it from another standpoint, Ramon, and get you to sort

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: of quantify it for us. In school, if you're taking

438
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: a really hard class, they would curve the great.

439
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 4: You know, I love the curve.

440
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: I did too in economics in my introductor economics course,

441
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: I had a low average but got a C because

442
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: the majority of the class had a low average. In

443
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: this case, if you're the Titans coaching staff and you're

444
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: the personnel staff evaluating your players, how much of this

445
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: do you evaluate on the curve to a certain extent

446
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Speaker 1: from the standpoint that you don't want to throw guys

447
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: away or make unnecessary changes, but first have to understand, Okay,

448
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: we might not see another defense like this the rest

449
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: of the year. We can get better from this. Let's

450
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: not jump to conclusions about our personnel or our scheme

451
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: that will.

452
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Speaker 4: I mean, our famous coach of Titans radio says, what,

453
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 4: let's keep our powder dry. Coach Matt says that all

454
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: the time, right, My only push is this. When we

455
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 4: had the conversation earlier about pride, guys got to understand

456
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 4: what they're up against too right, and it's a copycat league.

457
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: When it boils down to it, the same thing that

458
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: the Browns did, other teams will at least attempt to

459
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 4: do it. Cincinnati certainly will. Yes, So you gotta fight

460
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: fire with fire a little bit. You don't throw the

461
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: baby out with the water, for sure, because it's three

462
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: games in. We're three games in, But there is an

463
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: evaluation process of who's willing to fight, and I think

464
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: that's where you gotta go, and that's where you reset

465
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: practice and say that sucks, because that team is that

466
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: good defensively from the beginn from the first layer that

467
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 4: defense all the way to the back end. They are

468
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: that good and they got guys that simply want to

469
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 4: play their roles and they do it well. So moving forward,

470
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Speaker 4: the challenge has to be if you have a and

471
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Speaker 4: I hate that you even got to have this conversation,

472
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Speaker 4: but there's a sense of pride in your work. You

473
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Speaker 4: as the call the next time, and sometimes the technique

474
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: goes out of the window a little bit and you

475
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: just simply got to go fight and beat somebody up.

476
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Speaker 4: I think that's what we're looking for a little bit.

477
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Speaker 4: What is the response from Week three? To week four

478
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Speaker 4: to where if you lost a line of scrimmage, we

479
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: gotta go gain it this week.

480
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Speaker 5: Ramon, I want to ask you something based off of

481
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Speaker 5: that just pride that we're talking about. You were in

482
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Speaker 5: those locker rooms for eleven years. Does it start amongst

483
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Speaker 5: each other individually, the captains, the team leaders? Where does

484
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: that originate? Because everybody has that same feeling of you

485
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: know what, I got pushed around by another grown man

486
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Speaker 5: and I'm mad about it.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this too, I think it's too

488
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 4: early to have, you know, that leadership meeting that teams

489
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Speaker 4: I absolutely hate those. I hated them as a player

490
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 4: because everybody know what you're getting yourself into. A let's

491
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Speaker 4: have a meeting of the minds about what we are.

492
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: It starts room to room. I think we're watching individual

493
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: units just lose and if you're gonna self check yourself,

494
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: that's where it starts. It's watching film together, maybe been

495
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: around each other a little bit more, having an understanding

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: that it's okay to get beat, but not consistently getting beat.

497
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Speaker 4: And I think that's where this team is in a

498
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: lot of different situations. We're speaking about the big guys

499
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball, right, But let's talk

500
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 4: about like the catchuple balls is coming to the receiver color.

501
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: You know, that doesn't involve the offensive line, right, That

502
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: doesn't involve the quarterback. If he's going to give it

503
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 4: to him in a spot where they can only catch it.

504
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: That's where it's individual gotta win, where you gotta win win.

505
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Speaker 4: It's okay to kind of say that I don't want

506
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: the meeting of the minds. Just yeah, heck this by

507
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: week is after week six, so you can talk then

508
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: all the time to talk.

509
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Speaker 1: Well on the bottom line is and I'm not meaning

510
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: to be Captain Suntrat, I'm just stating the obvious win

511
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: this game. You're two and two, I mean, you're two

512
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Speaker 1: and two on the way to Indianapolish with that game

513
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: in your rearview mirror in Cleveland. If you're one in three, however,

514
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: and you go to indian an Appolis at that point,

515
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: then the outside noise picks up even more. The outside

516
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: noise this week fair, I mean absolutely. I mean you're

517
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna hear it, and it's fair that there would be noise.

518
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Some of what will be said may not be fair,

519
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: but you have to understand this is what happened. This

520
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: is where you are.

521
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: You've got to take it.

522
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Speaker 1: But Ratt, if you go get it and you're two

523
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: and two, then you're showing what is one of the

524
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: most important things that an NFL team can show in

525
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: early October, and that is you're getting better and also

526
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: your overcoming adversity.

527
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Speaker 5: Well, and Mike Rabel said it to us and post

528
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: came yesterday. It's like, when you get your butt beat,

529
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 5: you're gonna find out what you got and how you

530
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 5: respond and how you put it together. And this is

531
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Speaker 5: a prime example of if you go and take care

532
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Speaker 5: of business at home at Nissan Stadium Sunday against the Bengals,

533
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: that you've proven it is a week to week proposition,

534
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: sure and more. And I just think about what Coach

535
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 5: Max said to both of us yesterday afternoons, like this

536
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: is not about the Browns, This is not about the

537
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 5: Bengals this week.

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Speaker 1: This is about the Titans. I'll never forget two thousand

539
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: and two. We were one and four, a good football

540
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: team was one and four, played awful, went to Oakland,

541
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Speaker 1: got embarrassed, just embarrassed by the Raiders. It was it

542
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: was they didn't give up seventy. They gave up fifty two.

543
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: But I mean it was just it was bad. And

544
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: they came back that week and they were playing Jacksonville

545
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: and the only thought that whole week was, we don't

546
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: know how we're gonna play. We're not gonna sit around

547
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: and talk about technique, We're not going to talk about scheme.

548
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: We're going to win the street fight. And that was

549
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: the game that Samari Roll laid out Mark Brunell against

550
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: the yard marker against the yard marker at the and

551
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: samari Roll was not known as a big hitter, to

552
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: say the least. He generally tackled around the shoelaces. Love you, Samrii,

553
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: but you were known for physicality. You were a great corner.

554
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: But and in that game, and Jacksonville went crazy because

555
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, that was the dirty. It's like a

556
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: guy who's not known for really tackling people is not

557
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: really the guy who you would think that about. And

558
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: yet so Mari's hit on Mark Brunel and what they did.

559
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: The whole Titans didn't play very well, but they won

560
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: one of these ugly games and from there only lost

561
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: one more time in the regular season because they just

562
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: decided at that point that they were just going to

563
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Speaker 1: take it to people in that way. And I think

564
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Speaker 1: that's kind of what you're saying about this. This is

565
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: one of those moments where after a game like that,

566
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Speaker 1: that's where it has to start. It does, and that's

567
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: all you're looking for. I've started off the season oh

568
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Speaker 1: and four.

569
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Speaker 4: Heck, lost four games straight in the preseason, so technically

570
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: owen eights. Wow, Okay, this losing is a part of it.

571
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: Seventy two Dolphins, last team to do it right, y'all.

572
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: That's it only team. And when you look at how

573
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: you respond to respond, it's that you gotta go punch

574
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: somebody in the mouth a little bit. The wins and

575
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: losses that occurre sometimes come down to will sometimes when

576
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: it's just, look, I don't screw the game plan today.

577
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: You're going to be bruised up after this one. And

578
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: it's okay to have games like that to reset yourself.

579
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: And the other thing is that, Mike, you made a

580
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: great point. You in this week of two and two.

581
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: It's not like you're oh and three. Like a team

582
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: that I thought was going to be good, the Minnesota Vikings.

583
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: I hadn't even bring them up on this network, but

584
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: they're owing three to start the game. You had a

585
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: team in Denver that dropped, that had seventy dropped on them,

586
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: and they couldn't stop a nosebleed even if they tried

587
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: and had a surgical doctor. They're okay, But that's just

588
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 4: a game. It's the game sometimes and simplifying it, as

589
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: we said earlier, it starts in the meeting rooms individually.

590
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: It starts saying, what are we good at unless maximize

591
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: that while we hide our deficiencies. It's okay to know

592
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: you got deficiencies. It's okay to know going into the game,

593
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: Derek's gonna get stacked up nine in a box. I

594
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: don't think I've ever seen it that many times in

595
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: my life. It was incredible because I mean they weren't

596
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: just in the box. They were like nine along the line.

597
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: I mean they were up so tight. They had the linebackers.

598
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: I mean they were their legs were quivering right before

599
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: the start of the play because they were coming. It's

600
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: like somebody hitting a hornet's nest right right. They were

601
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: reddling the horno's nest. If they could have hard counted them,

602
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: I got off. If you're saying to the Titans that

603
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: can't matter. They can't no, because people you're the glad

604
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: you got your problems that don't want to hear about them.

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: That's how it breaks down sometimes, and that's why I

606
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: said to the big boys up front, you know what

607
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 4: you're getting into. Derek's going to attract so much attention.

608
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: Take it as a badge of of pride, you know,

609
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: it's a badge of honor sometimes. So what we got

610
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: four on the pop with nine in the box, and

611
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 4: that may be a hard day at the office. They

612
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: got so much rehab these days, man, that you can

613
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: find a way to get healthy going into the next week.

614
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: Until you prove to other teams it don't matter. We're

615
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: gonna crack this nothing no matter what.

616
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: And Skaransky has a good chance to be back to

617
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: which would help the offensive line for sure. I think

618
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: we have seen in the two games he's been absent

619
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: is how valuable he already is and confirms for you

620
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: why he was the eleventh overall pick. His strength at

621
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Speaker 1: the point of attack is something they certainly could have

622
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: used yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Could have to stop the charge a little bit, just

624
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: to have a flow, because that was the biggest thing

625
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: that went on with the game. There was no actual flow.

626
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: I hired you on the call in my ear say

627
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: in the first quarter, and I think this team was

628
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: negative yards they were. That's where Scaranski comes into play.

629
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Speaker 4: We spoke about this a little bit, certain guys having

630
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: you know, good seasons. So far, n WI has been solid.

631
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Speaker 4: I don't think he got much of a sniff in Cleveland.

632
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: But when you bring in a guy like d Hop

633
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: it puts people in positions. Peter Skensky's puts everybody in positions.

634
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: You know what your strengths and weaknesses are and who's

635
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: gonna beware. So hopefully getting him back this week will

636
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: play a huge part in this group's re response.

637
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: For the Titans fans a big week too. The Titans

638
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: certainly hope the crowd will turn out at Nissan Stadium,

639
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Rhett and hopefully be there for them to maybe make

640
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: the difference and push them home. Very good for this

641
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: team that it.

642
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: Is a home game.

643
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: It's supreme that it is a home game, because if

644
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: they can come out of that tunnel and give them

645
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: something to cheer about early on, those folks will ride

646
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 5: with them.

647
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm convinced to that. But you got to give him

648
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: something early.

649
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for Rett Bryan and Ramone Foster.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith, thanking you for listening for the OTP