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Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to the

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Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. My guest this week are Allison and

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Speaker 1: Jay DeMarcus. So you've probably heard Jay's name from being

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Speaker 1: one third of the group Rascal Flats, and Allison can

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Speaker 1: regularly be seen as a host on CMT and has

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Speaker 1: spent many years as the reigning Miss Tennessee. The couple

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Speaker 1: now also has a new reality show on Netflix called

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Family Rules. And let me tell you, guys, even

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Speaker 1: after knowing this family for many years, I was laughing

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Speaker 1: out loud watching this season. So we obviously talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about the show and filming a reality show with

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Speaker 1: your family, But we also talked about how they met

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Speaker 1: story I didn't quite expect. The couple shares how therapy

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Speaker 1: has probably saved their marriage, why they won't be having

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Speaker 1: brings to families. Here's our conversation. Okay, so obviously I

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Speaker 1: It's so funny they're just talking about that. So I

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Speaker 1: want to get into that later. But these are so

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Speaker 1: fun for me because I feel like I didn't have

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Speaker 1: known you guys for years, and so I started doing

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Speaker 1: on this research and I found all these random facts

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Speaker 1: get to research you guys. Um, thank you kidding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about a couple of those because obviously,

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Speaker 1: so Jay, everyone knows you as the basis of Rascal Flats,

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Speaker 1: but before you had Rascal Flats, you were into contemporary

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Speaker 1: Christian bands. So tell us a little bit about making

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Speaker 1: you know, I did. I did you know what it was?

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Speaker 1: I grew up in church. My mom had a church

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Speaker 1: and I've wound up now and with you know, in

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Speaker 1: because I also was raised on country music. My dad

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Speaker 1: side welcome. Um. Wait, so Gary is your second cousin.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea, Yeah he is. So that's how

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Speaker 1: He was coming down every once in a while to

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Speaker 1: And it didn't end up that way because he didn't

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Speaker 1: We do take that. Yeah, yeah, he didn't have that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm kind of like, well, this is

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00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: my chance. She broke up with him. She she digs me,

429
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: now we can start hanging out, and then she lays

430
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: this on me. I need you to leave me alone.

431
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: I've got to figure my life out. I mean, you've

432
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: got to have some space killing. Yeah, like run back

433
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: down the alley. Even though Jake felt like it was

434
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: love at first sight, Well, the end of that story

435
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: is at lasted four days some time. You said those

436
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: four days and you really found yourself. Yes, really went

437
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: on a self awareness journey there. Nobody knew one side

438
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: was actually opened back into right. This is just for me.

439
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: So I hear that though, that you when it's right,

440
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: it's just easy, yes, and it's just gonna work and

441
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: you can't really fight it off, which it sounds like, oh,

442
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: that's what happened in this scenario. Yeah, and you know

443
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: dating sucks dating and it's you know, marriage is hard. Yeah,

444
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: it's not. Just because it's right doesn't mean it's easy.

445
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: But we found a way to make it work. And

446
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: we've gotten pregnant both times we've had sex, and it's

447
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: been Wow, it's just been awesome, lucky every days, the holiday,

448
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: every day, just like those those girls who always post

449
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you know, it just gets better with every year.

450
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: You're like, look like how many times if you'll actually

451
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: fought for divorce but they didn't go through, right, It's like, mean,

452
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: I just wish people will be more honest about it

453
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: because it is hard. Any relationship is hard, they take Yeah,

454
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: whether it's with your parents, you're sibling, your spouse, your kids.

455
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: I mean relationships are hard, yeah, because they're there was

456
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: married to each other, as we all are with our spouses.

457
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: So absolutely, but all of the relationships are hard. So

458
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: I always think it's crazy when people act like at

459
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: Sunshine and Roses, you know, I mean honest about it,

460
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: because anything's hard. If it's worth it, it's gonna be hard. Yeah,

461
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: And I mean that's one of the things I really

462
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: like about this show. For you guys, this is a

463
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: good transition into DeMarcus Family Rules because the show starts

464
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: with you guys doing a therapy session, which first of all,

465
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: I could not figure out at first, Like Jay was

466
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: talking in that voice. It's like, what is he doing?

467
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: What's happening? But he was the therapist is having you

468
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: guys role play each other? So can you. So I'm

469
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: very or a big advocate for therapy. I think everyone

470
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: should do it. It's just like it's not like it

471
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're so messed up that you have to

472
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: go get help. It just means like we all need

473
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: to learn how to communicate better, how to be better

474
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: in our relationships. Like it's just so helpful. So has

475
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: it been very helpful for you guys in your relationship

476
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: or communication wise? Like, talk me through a little bit

477
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: of that. Um. We started seeing a marriage coach about

478
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: our second year into marriage, not because not because we

479
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: had these huge problems, but we quickly realize that left

480
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: to our own devices, we weren't great communicators with each other.

481
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Allison is, um, well, she doesn't talk. So I am

482
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: really in touch with my emotions and I love I

483
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: love to communicate. I love to know what someone's feeling thinking,

484
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: lay it all on me so I can sort through

485
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: it and do what you need me to do and

486
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: let me fix whatever I'm doing wrong, and getting information

487
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: from her is like trying to get gold, not a

488
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: fort Knox. Is this for real? This is y'all dynamic,

489
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: This is really for real. That's the opposite of what

490
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: most people say. Yes, that's exactly right. We've been told

491
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: by our counselor several times that I'm the typical female

492
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: and choose the dude. Okay, and that's not emasculating at all.

493
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure. However, you know, she wants to blame it

494
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: on the fact that I'm an artist and I've in

495
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: touch with my emotions and where my heart or must leave,

496
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: and I just chalk it up to being a human

497
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: being with actual feelings and thoughts. Jay is an exceptual

498
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: communicator because he sits down and writes songs about his

499
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: feelings and emotions, whether they're his originally or organically, or

500
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: the other songwriter in the rooms or not. I mean,

501
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where he's used to verbalizing

502
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: his feelings and has not. And I I am the

503
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: typical mail where it's like we'll figure it out. Yeah,

504
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: and I'm loyal, I'm in it, but like I just

505
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't have to sit around to talk about it,

506
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: and that drives Jay crazy. But if we will both

507
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: overly emoting, we would never get out of the house.

508
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: We hold each other crime every night. So it works

509
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: because you gotta have somebody, have to have the balance, right, Yeah,

510
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's what it is. Well, I

511
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: think the key word there's balance has to give a

512
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: little bit on the under side. So what the marriage

513
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Coach has done for us has helped us, you know,

514
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: force us to talk and to communicate and to be

515
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: in a room and and give us a skill set

516
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: that helps us when we're dealing with something that it's difficult.

517
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's wonderful. It has done wonders for us

518
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure, this is honest, I'm not sure

519
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: we would have made it if we didn't have a

520
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: little bit of help along the way, because I don't

521
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: know how to resolve conflict and still love each other,

522
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: especially when you're coming from to totally from perspectives. You're

523
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: never actually gonna agree on some things, and so you've

524
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to agree to disagree and

525
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: love your way through it too without bitterness and being

526
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: able to let go of the past. That's something that

527
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: we both had to work on, was we can't still

528
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: fight about stuff that happened five years ago, okay, like

529
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: and then like we can't keep bringing that up every

530
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: time there's another conflict, Like, let's heal those wounds, but

531
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: so we can move on. We also had to cure

532
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: Allison of um apologizing like this, Well, I'm sorry you

533
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: feel that way. I saw this in the show I died.

534
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's real life communication, Like the coach

535
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: will go Allison, can you apologize today? Yes, I am

536
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: sorry that he's an asshole future eye statement, So I

537
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: was using them. I mean it's a little bit of

538
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: a twisted on that, but I was. I was like

539
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: working my own past. I feel like you're stupid. Well,

540
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys being open about it, just because

541
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I think it is just exactly like what y'all are saying.

542
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: We're two totally different people can be in a relationship,

543
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: and we all just see things from our own perspective.

544
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: So if you don't have a third party that's not

545
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: emotionally attached, kind of talking through what that can look

546
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: like from a different angle. I just don't know how

547
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: we get it like, I've had this in other relationships too,

548
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: and it's just been so helpful to have someone else

549
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: kind of interject with, well, this is actually what they mean,

550
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: because it's just not so emotionally fueled. That's exactly right.

551
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: And you know what's amazing about that to me because

552
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: people can talk to me now about their marriages and

553
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I can analyze it so quickly and easily now and

554
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: know exactly what they mean when they say this on

555
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: both sides of the coin, but have no ability to

556
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: do it in my own relationship. Why is that? I

557
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: feel that too. I'm serious. I can go, well, here's

558
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and here's what yeah, And then I

559
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: go back to sit with the chair in front of

560
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: our coach and I go, I don't know a thing

561
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: about what I'm doing. Yes, it's just so different when

562
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: you're in it. Yeah it is, and it's good you do.

563
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: You just have to have that outside perspective because everybody

564
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: has their moments where you put a wall of about

565
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: something for some reason, and you've got to have somebody

566
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: that's not the other person say okay, like you've gotta

567
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: you gotta move past this. You've got we've got to

568
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: work through this. How are we going to work through this? Right?

569
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: Take the egos out and just work on it together.

570
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: That's for her, just for me, because leader where I

571
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: love to be right about this? I'm sure, I'm sure.

572
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: So what does it look like now that you guys

573
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: are filming a reality TV show together? How's that going?

574
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: You know? Um, it's it was really fun, to be honest.

575
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: I've had some reservations about it obviously, well, just putting

576
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: our kids down there and exposing them to any kind

577
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: of you know, people are idiots and they're so brave

578
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: behind keyboards nowadays, and it was a lot for us

579
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: to think about before we made the decision to finally

580
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: do it. But I did discover that having something to

581
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: do with my family and I've I've lived most of

582
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: my adult life on the road with Gary and Joe knowing,

583
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: so being a creative environment with my family and my

584
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: wife and my kids was so much fun to do

585
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: something different, if that makes sense. Yeah, it was just

586
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: kind of liberating and um, and we had a great time.

587
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: And I love the memories that we made because now

588
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: they will live forever on Netflix even if we don't

589
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: get a second season, right, I'll still be able to

590
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: go back and watch my kids and remember the fun

591
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: that we had filming that show together. Alison, how has

592
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: it been for you? Was it a big adjustment or

593
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: were you kind of just ready for it? Were you

594
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: excited about it? Um? I was more excited long before

595
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: it started, like when we were talking about it, and

596
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: then when it came down to it, I got really nervous.

597
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: And I think it's just like that maternal instinct that

598
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: kicks in with your kids and um but I knew

599
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: they were funny and I knew that they would enjoy

600
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: the process because they've been on Cristally knows Bill several

601
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: times and they had tons of fun. And I mean,

602
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: our son is Jay's child. I have that as a question.

603
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Do people tell you that all the time he's a

604
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: wonderful kid? Well, he's hilarious. I mean they both are.

605
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Actually they're both very funny. But when I'm watching Dylan,

606
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a small version of Jay. It's crazy.

607
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to parent him. So um So that

608
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: part of me was really really nervous, and I had

609
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the additional um low of my mom who was nervous,

610
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: and my sister who was trepidacious, and they are not

611
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: typically did on camera ever in their lives. They done

612
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: great things with their lives, it hasn't necessarily been in

613
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: front of other people. So that dynamic was there, and

614
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: our other friends and so that was a lot to

615
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: kind of maneuver on the outset. That was really fun

616
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: because we were all able to be together and pre

617
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: COVID we were all running in a million different directions

618
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: and so you just get short moments of that, whereas

619
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: we were able to actually be together and it was

620
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: really fun and little do we know then a few

621
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: months later we would always be together. It didn't get

622
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: away from each other. I think everybody who was single

623
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: and a friend of mine was longing for other people

624
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: during quarantine and the spring especially, and then everybody who

625
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: was married was like, get me giving out of here.

626
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: It's a totally interesting dynamic to be stuck in a

627
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: house with every one. It totally is. But I was

628
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: telling you guys before, I feel like your family is

629
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: made for reality TV, which I actually did really mean

630
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: as a compliment, But it's we all have this timing

631
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: with each other. It is it is it like that

632
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: all the time or y'all are just feeding off of

633
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: each other with the one liners. That's It's like the

634
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Jay and I feel like we the good and the

635
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: bad about us is that we diffuse conflict with humor,

636
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: both of us. And so that's just how we talk,

637
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: I mean, our kids. That's how we roll. That's how

638
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: you roll. Um, you know, It's just I don't know.

639
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: I've always tried to find the humor and everything, and

640
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a little annoying sometimes, I'm sure to people around.

641
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people just know me from

642
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: playing based on stage, but I'm actually a funny motherfucker.

643
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: So I'm glad for people to be able to finally

644
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: see what I've known, for people to get to really

645
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: experience you, I feel, his whole life. Well anyway, Yeah,

646
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: the kids are even I mean, they're so funny in

647
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: their little interviews. I just die laughing because they have

648
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: the same kind of comedic timing as y'all do. And

649
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: how old are they? Ten and seven or something? Maden

650
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: that was her birthday, so she turned nine. She's nine, okay,

651
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: and then Dylan was seven. He just now turned eight.

652
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So what's funny is I've read all

653
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: these comments on Facebook and Instagram blab it's obviously scripted.

654
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: They're telling the kids what to say, and I'm like,

655
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: you don't have a clue. Yeah, you can't tell kids

656
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: what to say, let alone expect them to have any

657
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: kind of sense of timing unless it's naturally there. So

658
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: that's what I always try to explain to people about

659
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: reality TV. It's like you set up the scenario like, oh,

660
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: we're going to go to dinner with so and so,

661
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: but everything that's said is actually really happening, Like that's

662
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the timing of all that. I think that's why I

663
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: appreciate Watch and you guys so much because I was

664
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: laughing out loud multiple times and I was like, wow, Like,

665
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: how could they just play off each other like this?

666
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: It's actually a lot harder than people would think it is.

667
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I think that that's the key to is that we've

668
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: been trying to tell everybody now we really aren't doing

669
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: anything scripted. Of course, we talk about what we're going

670
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: to do in the scene, otherwise it would not be

671
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: compelling television. So we're trying to make something interesting. But

672
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: you've got to be funny, and you've got to keep

673
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: the scene moving along and it's horrid work to do. Yeah,

674
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: it's definitely different than what I think people think. Also,

675
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: though you have you guys have all these characters in

676
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: your life, like is you have Amy, your sister Alison,

677
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: your mom, Chris um and then also Amy is married

678
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: to James Otto, which was something I didn't know. And

679
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: then Mickey and paid like, there are these people are

680
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: they actually just doing themselves because they're all hilarious. Nicki

681
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: is the only person I know that it can string

682
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Jay's name out into seven syllables. We met him fifteen

683
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: years ago. We were at a dinner party and we

684
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: were just sitting there around the table and like the

685
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: first book, an appetizer came, then a salad came, and

686
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: then by the time the entree came, Jay like threw

687
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: his fork down. He goes, I need to go meet

688
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: whoever is cooking this food right now. So we like

689
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: grabbed our drinks, win in the kitchen, met Nicky and

690
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: did not leave the kitchen the rest of the time.

691
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: We just hung out with him and started laughing because

692
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: he's hilarious and he's from Clarksville originally, and um, he

693
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: is hysterical and like he's really a part of our family.

694
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's he cooks meals for us, you know,

695
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: just randomly all the time, and then like all of

696
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: our major things like Christmas and helps me with Thanksgiving

697
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and all of our kids parties, and you know, he's

698
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: just really he's truly a part of our lives. Yeah,

699
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: he was very entertaining to be paid as well. She's

700
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: a little firecracker. She is a total firecracker. And she

701
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: is clearly from West Tennessee, close to where I'm from.

702
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: And so she and I work on pabots together. And

703
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: I became friends with Chris through pageants, but you know,

704
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: just like with her, I mean, my relationship extends much

705
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: further than those few events. Even though we work on

706
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: those things together, they're truly friends and we don't just

707
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: always talk about that. So um, So he is truly

708
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: a part of my family. I mean, my mom feels

709
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: like she's his second mother, and so he's got a

710
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: great relationship with my mom and a good relationship with

711
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: my sister and me. So he's a good like bridge

712
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: between all of us too, which is I mean, those

713
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: are truly their roles in our lives. You know, today,

714
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Alison's family being around so much.

715
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: Next question, You know, I've gotten used to it. It's

716
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: luckily I don't mind being around him. Yeah, I was

717
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: very dear friends with her father, Robert. We were were

718
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: really good pals, Like we played a lot of golf

719
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: together and hung out, and I had a lot of

720
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: things in common, so I really enjoyed being around her folks.

721
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: And her sister Amy is precious. And James Otto and

722
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: I have been friends for years, best friends before you

723
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: got with Alison. I met him uh and an industry

724
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: event before we ended up together. But you know, it's

725
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: since we both do the same thing. It's kind of

726
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: nice to um to have that in the family, to

727
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: have somebody to relate to. But they're they're sweet, sweet people,

728
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: so it doesn't bother me now. If I if there

729
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: are people I didn't like to be around, would be

730
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: a whole mother situated. But Kelly, I don't. I mean,

731
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: like most girls from the South, like you marry somebody

732
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: who will fit into your family, Like I could have

733
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: never married someone who then took me out of my

734
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: family and displaced me and we had our own life

735
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: and didn't interable with my family all the time. That

736
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: was just it's just a huge part of it. That

737
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: was a part of the deal. And you know, that

738
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: just kind of was a thing. And Jay naturally fit

739
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: in with my family and they my mom will take

740
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: up for Jay when we're upset about something and each other.

741
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: My mom will take this side, and it's really actually

742
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: upsetting because and so that's really upsetting. And my sister,

743
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: even if she thinks I'm wrong, she'll she'll at least

744
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: like put up the facade that she supports me mom.

745
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: But my mom was just like totally throw in the town,

746
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, he is so crush do not don't

747
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: get I'm like, well, I and your daughter you have

748
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: about to take up for me. Well, it is a

749
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: little hard though, because they know you so well. It's

750
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: like it's like all the people that know you so

751
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: well and have lived with you your entire life, so

752
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: of course they all know every in and out of

753
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: how you operate. Good. So it's um so, I guess

754
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: to answer the question totally that jay'son just he knew

755
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: what was going to happen, you know, mean, you knew

756
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the drill before married, and luckily he's okay with it,

757
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: even though I mean everybody has their moment where you

758
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: want to run screaming from extended family. That's why last

759
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: that long wasn't a good idea. You wait till season two,

760
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: We're going to delve into my family in Ohio. Cannot wait. Well,

761
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I love that you guys address um the road life,

762
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: because I do feel like you know, I'm kind of

763
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes too. So I see this dynamic so much,

764
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: and I don't think that if you fully understand that life, Um,

765
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: I think it gets glamorized a lot and people focus

766
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: on the really fun parts of it, and obviously that's

767
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. But you openly talk about

768
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: the dynamic of like Alice and You're at home kind

769
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: of running the show, and then Jay comes back in

770
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: you say he expects a welcome wagon, and Jay, you

771
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: also talk about it from your perspective of like you

772
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: almost feel like you have to get to know your

773
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: family again. So I want to talk about that dynamic.

774
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: How have you guys found some balance in that? Well,

775
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: we haven't okay answer truth. Okay, I like it. It

776
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: is hard. I mean it's for a couple that one

777
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: person or both people travel, you've got to figure each

778
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: other out. When you get back. You know, it looks

779
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: so glamorous on Instagram because you know, Jay's on stage

780
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: with the lights and the you know, fan blowing, and

781
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you made me sound like

782
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, but you are, You're almost hard.

783
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: You're almost the same, basically exactly what I was thinking.

784
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: But he's got You know, they're only showing the like

785
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: fabulous moments when they're really sitting in a parking lot

786
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: until eight pm in a like random venue, still watching

787
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: the golf channel. You know, you know, I know, I

788
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: think when Alison said I expect a welcome wagon, that's

789
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: a little overstaking. I just expect people to be home

790
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: maybe when off the road, instead of out running errands

791
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: and random things. Um, that has been a little bit

792
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: of an issue. And Jay does not come home to

793
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: an empty house, well, Kelly's home. After you've been out,

794
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, busting your tail and working hard for your

795
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: family and away from them, the hundreds of miles away,

796
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: and you come home it's like I'm home. Hello there, Hello,

797
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: anybody around here? Never mind, I'll just go down here

798
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: and be with myself again, like I've been on the

799
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: bus for the past four games. Yeah, but that's hard

800
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: because Jason grown up. I mean he's been on the

801
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: road since he was what seventeen years old, and around

802
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: people constantly. There's always somebody around. There's always somebody willing

803
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: to like hang out, watch a football game with you, go,

804
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, have a drink with you, whatever it is.

805
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: But I mean that's not real life. I mean we're busy,

806
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: and so it's really hard because he goes from like

807
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: that really social environment. So I think that's hard to

808
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden come into the the stone cold

809
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: house that's like empty because we're at three soccer games,

810
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: or you'd want to hope that your wife was waiting

811
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: for you to come back home because she had missed

812
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: you so much. We could also view it like that

813
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: as well anoint of view, or we could be it

814
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: as what a wonderful involved mother she is who wants

815
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: to be with her children, who support them during their extracurriculus.

816
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: But I was just gonna say, this sounds like a

817
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: topic for therapy guys, But don't we have just sected

818
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: this one years. So I don't think there's a resolution,

819
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: but we we've worked through it at least where there's

820
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: a good way to come to it. A make you

821
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: so much, I'm not coming back. Well, I do appreciate

822
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: you guys getting honest about that though, because I just

823
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: think that it's easy to look, especially at a very

824
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: successful music career, and it's just all the smoke and

825
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: glitter and all the stuff we were talking about, and

826
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: you don't really see the ins and outs of what

827
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: it takes to make a family work in that dynamic.

828
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: So it's been it's really cool, ugly pictures for Instagram

829
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: they're taking with the extra effects and everything else, so

830
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: it's always glamorized. Well, have you guys resolved the issue

831
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: of having another child? Okay, so that that went out,

832
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: she shut that down pre immediately. Yeah, m but I

833
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: mean I'm old, Kelly, I know what my limits are. Yah.

834
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: And and plus Kelly, we'd have to get naked. She

835
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: won't do that. Yeah, she didn't seen that into it

836
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: two times. I mean, that's tough for a marriage. I mean.

837
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: And also I've just been sitting around eating during quarantine,

838
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: so all yeah, i would think, like, oh gosh, I'll

839
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: be home, so all I'll do is like be really

840
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: healthy meal proub and like work out and actually did

841
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: none of that. Yeah, so getting pregnants not the top

842
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: of your list, It's really not well. You mentioned some

843
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: fertility struggles with that too, which I've also had my

844
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: bout with that. So was that a really big part

845
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: of your decision making process? Was just like the struggle

846
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: of what that the toll it takes on your body.

847
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: I guess people don't really know that either. Yeah, if

848
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: they haven't gone through it, then they don't understand the

849
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: extreme highs and lows I'm sure have experienced, and the

850
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: difficulty and the disappointment. And you know what happened with us.

851
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: As soon as Allison got to her breaking point, she

852
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: came and said, I can't do this anymore. I'm not

853
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna take these fertility drugs. We're not going to go

854
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: back to the in vitro classes. And as soon as

855
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: we quit all that, she was pregnant a month later. See.

856
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: I always wonder how much distress play into what's happening

857
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: in our bodies. With all that, you feel like you're

858
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: failing a test every time you Yeah, and it's a

859
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: lot of pressure to put on you. And it's also

860
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to put on a gas page

861
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: in some cold room to come out with a sample

862
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: some random woman across to this, right, that's so difficult.

863
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: We're so sorry for I'm just saying without it's hard. Yeah,

864
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: it's definitely not the way that anybody imagines that going.

865
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: For sure. Let's definitely feel so bad for the guys

866
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: mos getting jacked up and jacked down, and then you know,

867
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: they all make you gain weight. So then you're like, oh,

868
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: I can't fit in any of my flood right, and

869
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: you feel terrible and you do. You feel like, why

870
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: is it's not happening? Are we not supposed to have kids? Yeah?

871
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, you go through all those emotions. It's really hard,

872
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: and it is um didn't everywhere you look too. I

873
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: don't know how you felt, but I always felt like

874
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: everybody I ever met was getting pregnant want to get pregnant.

875
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: I was invited to more baby showers and I've ever

876
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: been invited to in my whole life during that time,

877
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: and you're genuinely the world for your friends, because nobody

878
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: wants your friend or your family member to go through

879
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: the hill you're going through. But at the same time,

880
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: it's like a good gree like how are people getting

881
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: knocked up? Behind the football stadium on a Friday, right,

882
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: And I mean we're like want to bring a child

883
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: into a loving, stable home, like what is happening or

884
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: quasi stable? Who knows? No I thought those exact notions.

885
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean I still do, because it's like, it seems

886
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: so something that seems so easy for other people when

887
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: you're having such a hard time with it as happy

888
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: as you want to be for them. I think it's

889
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: just such a mixed emotions deal. Like it's it's really

890
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: difficult as a human being to not take your own

891
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: experiences into account when you're just like supporting your friends.

892
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's really difficult. Yea, it is, even

893
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: though you are genuinely happy more than it's hard because

894
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: you are. You're right, you're we're all human and of

895
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: course we're disappointed about our situation if you're having for

896
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: somebody else, Yeah, well I appreciate it. You guys just

897
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: getting honest about a lot of those hard topics and

898
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: also making it entertaining in the meantime. So you guys

899
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: go check out the show. It's called DeMarcus Family Rules.

900
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: It's out on Netflix. Now. The last question, I mean,

901
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: this might be the most important question that I've asked today.

902
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: But Alison, what is in a spray tan? Oh? I'm

903
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: the drink up. Years ago it's diet sun kissed in vodka,

904
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: and somebody asked me what the recipe was. I was like, well,

905
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: it depends on if you've got to be up at

906
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: six thirty the next morning or nine thirty you poured

907
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: that much vodka sun cast to it and then calling

908
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: it a day. And um, my friend Jason Owen years ago,

909
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: he started calling it a spray tan because it's orange,

910
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: of course, and so we always laughed. Now, I do

911
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: carry diet sun kiss cans in my handbag when we

912
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant, if I go to friends houses.

913
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: I was very glassy. I just I could not tell.

914
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the color is a bright orange and you

915
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: drink it out of a wine glass. It looks like

916
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean just that one time. I mean, I don't

917
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: drink it out of anything. It could be a shot

918
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: glass crossing with the cake right here. So the um

919
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: sun kiss Okay, I'm gonna have to look into this cocktail.

920
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Um jay, what is your drink of choice? Oh? I

921
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: thank you? Seen me drink my drink of choice. That's

922
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: a great Goose Club. So okay, yes, no fruit, no fruit,

923
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: keep it clean. You know. I so wish we were

924
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: at the hotel right now, out there at the bar

925
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: and we can all sit together and have a drink.

926
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: That was brant. I mean, I think it's so for

927
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: granted that. Yeah, I mean, just the simple things, you know,

928
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: going to work in another city sounds so amazing right now.

929
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Yeah, when we were in the middle

930
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: of it, it was like, oh my gosh, I have

931
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: to pack my suitcase. Yeah, and drudge back to the airport.

932
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: It seems like the worst thing because I was so

933
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: tired all the time, missing my people back home. And

934
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: now I'm like, take me, let's go. I feel so

935
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: silly now because I remember sitting down there going I

936
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be over there. Yes, this is one percent

937
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: giving me a lot of perspective. Makes you really grateful, Yeah,

938
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: it does. I mean, even when I dropped my kids

939
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: off at school and like thank you Jesus. I mean,

940
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: this may not last forever. They may send them all home,

941
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: but they're going to day yes exactly, because I'm not

942
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: ready to drop kick. I mean, if we had to

943
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: homeschool anymore, I've been. I was homeschool with my boyfriend's kids.

944
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: Last was that. I guess you call it semester. I

945
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: don't know that we would have survived as humans, Like

946
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: it was not good for anybody. It's not And the

947
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: kids seem to be around people. I mean, obviously I

948
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: think people need to be safe, but I mean they

949
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: need that outlet. They needed the serialization because I already

950
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: worry about their that generation being so dependent upon technology

951
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: and their devices. So when that's the only way that

952
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: they can communicate with friends is through FaceTime and texting,

953
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, this is not good to wants

954
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: to know if I feel that way about myself and

955
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: a worry about myself. No, I'm not because I was

956
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: like no sending out s O S messages and FaceTime,

957
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: drinking with my friends, finding ways to interact. I mean

958
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I literally heard a friend of mine say she's doing

959
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: a virtual happy hour like in March this year, and

960
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: I was like, kind of so stupid. Literally the next week,

961
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, who wants to do a virtually me? I'm

962
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: ready for Hey, whatever it takes to survive. We were

963
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: doing it almost every day there for a minute, so

964
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: we wait. I mean I would like have friends who

965
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: were like literally crouched in the closet with a glass

966
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: of wine, face timing with everybody. The only the only

967
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: thing that scared me, Kelly was I started drinking earlier

968
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: and earl. We did too. Happy Hour kept getting earlier

969
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: and earlier. I was like, oh wait, it's lunchtime. Wait,

970
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: this is bad. When I started drinking it and I

971
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh bloody Mary mix, Like it's okay, but

972
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: you can't curl us over the soda for like three

973
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: or four Oh god, it's so true. Transitioning back into

974
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: real life for that reason was a little bit tricky

975
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: there for a while. But you just we're still a

976
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: little touch and you need to get back out of

977
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: the road. We're yeah, amen to that. Um, so we

978
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: have the show. What else can we look out for

979
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: from you guys in the next couple of months or

980
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: just the next year? Uh yeah, oh let's well, what

981
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: is the raccal flats have coming up? We don't have

982
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: much of anything coming up. We got nominated today for

983
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: Vocal Group of Year, which is nice. That's awesome for them. Yeah,

984
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: it's been thirty seven years since we've been nominated, So

985
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: it was great, so wow, that but how many years?

986
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. I'm totally uh, and so

987
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: you work. We're working on some things right now in

988
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: the studio. Then we're gonna we're gonna put out later

989
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: on this year that I'm excited about. But as far

990
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: as touring goes, it's kind of up in the air.

991
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: No one in the world that's gonna look like. So

992
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be shooting season two of DeMarcus Family Rules

993
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: here in a few months. That would be exciting. Alison,

994
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: what are you working on? I am working on keeping

995
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: my children in school, Amen, working on this Volunteer America

996
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: the first national pageant that will be September first through

997
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: fourth in one and we'll go away. Yes, you got

998
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: a year. I feel good about your chances. Okay, thank you.

999
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean I do some days and then other days

1000
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm like cycle you catch you know, Okay, everybody's positive

1001
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: to day. Everybody's um anyway, So you know, we're just

1002
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: trying to make it and we have no social life,

1003
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and it's really kind of sad. I know, I'm ready

1004
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: for that to come back to me too. I think

1005
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: we all definitely either took it for granted. And now

1006
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, I would love to go to an

1007
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: event or to a dinner with people, whereas before I'd

1008
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'll go anywhere. I have reasons to

1009
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: put on Scara exactly, exactly well. DeMarcus Family Rules, as

1010
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: we said, is out now on Netflix. Alison and Today,

1011
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for doing this. It was

1012
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: so fun to talk to you and I'm so happy

1013
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: to learn all these fun facts about you. Guys. It

1014
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: was really very insightful for me. Thank you so much.

1015
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys, Thank you guys for listening.

1016
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: M