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Speaker 1: And welcome to Thursday's This is a Biglue kickoff live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. He's pulled the Tino. I'm

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Speaker 1: Lance Meado with you for the next sixty minutes. Thanks

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Speaker 1: go through some team news, will set the stage for

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Speaker 1: Giants Redskins game number two this season, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: to your phone calls. But we want to start with

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest news of the day, and Pat Shermer

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Speaker 1: said coming out of the Giants game, Landon Collins was

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Speaker 1: a big banged up. He was undergoing further test. He

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Speaker 1: was in and out of the lineup that day as

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Speaker 1: a result of the shoulder injury. Well, today we received

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Speaker 1: finality on that front and Landon Collins is going to

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Speaker 1: be placed on season ending injured reserve with a partially

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Speaker 1: torn rotator cuff. He underwent surgery to repair that, so

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Speaker 1: the recovery time is already starting and to take Landon

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Speaker 1: Collins place, the Giants have signed defensive back Kenny Ladler.

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Speaker 1: He had been on the practice the squad since November fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: That coincidentally played a little bit with the Redskins earlier

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Speaker 1: this season, So it's always nice when you have somebody

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Speaker 1: on the roster that has familiarity with the opponent, even

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Speaker 1: though the Redskins have drastically changed. We should mention since

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Speaker 1: he was on the teams, But the bigger news, obviously

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Speaker 1: is the fact that Landon Collins is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: available for the remainder of the season. And when you

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Speaker 1: think about durability, Paul, since Landon Collins was drafted, he

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Speaker 1: was by far one of the most durable players on

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Speaker 1: this roster. Last one game, all of a sudden interrupted

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Speaker 1: the flow. And now this year had been relatively healthy,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately the Soldier injury is going to sideline him.

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Speaker 1: And I think the big question now is, Okay, who

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Speaker 1: is going to step up, Who's going to take on

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Speaker 1: a bigger role? And one of the guys that certainly

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Speaker 1: comes to mind is Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas was a

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Speaker 1: favorite of yours back in training camp to win the

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Speaker 1: starting free safety spot. Now he's going to probably be

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is, if you make him the

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Speaker 1: and of course Sean Chandler, the undrafted rookie free agent

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Speaker 1: But the problem or the concern if you put Thomas

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Speaker 1: so good as the quote third safety in that package.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to be asked to do a lot

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Speaker 1: I wonder, excuse me, sorry, don't emotionally am emotional safety

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Speaker 1: wonder how much could this impact his effectiveness on special

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Speaker 1: that's a very fair point because whenever somebody has to

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Speaker 1: take on a larger role it's not as if they're

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Speaker 1: unable to balance both, Paul, But I think from the

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting just from a big picture perspective, Paul.

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Speaker 1: day that he's been very pleased with the progress of

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Speaker 1: Grant Haley over the last couple of weeks. He has

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Speaker 1: When he was at Penn State, he was a border

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Speaker 1: that he's more adapted to his role because I remember,

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Speaker 1: So I think that says a lot about how far

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Speaker 1: what you want to see, especially if there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: pieces that the Giants could build upon moving forward within

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Speaker 1: their roster. Well, even if they don't eventually become starters

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Speaker 1: But even if they don't and they become core guys

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Speaker 1: on the subpackage, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: that solid guy. Michael Thomas is the perfect example. Michael

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Speaker 1: Thomas has been a starter, He's been in the league

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Speaker 1: but he has been a tremendous key player that every

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Speaker 1: does a little bit of everything. He's that jack of

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Speaker 1: because I think it's relevant, Paul. When Michael Thomas was

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins claimed him, and they claimed him. It was

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Speaker 1: to digested playbook. So you know that speaks volume of

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Speaker 1: So you always need players like that. Well, you're familiar

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Speaker 1: level all star games at the end of the collegiate season. Well,

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Speaker 1: this past off season, last January, last February or whatever

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Speaker 1: Now this is different Giants offense. I think they've cleaned

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Speaker 1: Giants were penalized eleven times for a hundred and two

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Speaker 1: They would be down by six actually seven six, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: so what happens if this guy can't play? Who do

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Speaker 1: you move to center? He must have given out like

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Speaker 1: five to six different scenarios. Hurt after I heard all

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Speaker 1: of that, I feel for I do too. You know

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Speaker 1: it's not easy, and they're bringing guys off the street

435
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Speaker 1: right now to determine who they want to have as

436
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Speaker 1: a backup, an emergency guy. They want to move a

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Speaker 1: tackle inside to guard. And see the way the Giants

438
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Speaker 1: are playing right now. In winning three of their last four,

439
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: the offense has gotten on track. They've had four straight

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Speaker 1: games now where they have scored more than twenty points

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Speaker 1: after only doing so twice in the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season. So this offense seems to have gotten it

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Speaker 1: right by the way, primarily because the fourth edition of

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Speaker 1: this offensive line is the one that has proven to

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Speaker 1: be functional. Let's not kid ourselves. That's where it all starts.

446
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Speaker 1: We told you that since September. Pat Shermer told you

447
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Speaker 1: that since July and it has come to pass exactly

448
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Speaker 1: as expected, so that seems to have been fixed. This

449
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Speaker 1: offense is certainly functional and capable of scoring twenty plus

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Speaker 1: points on any given Sunday and putting you in a

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Speaker 1: winning position. Uh, at the end of the day, it's

452
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Speaker 1: the defense right now for the Giants that seems to

453
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Speaker 1: be up and down. They've got the injury to Land

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Speaker 1: and Collins, which is a big deal, and and those

455
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Speaker 1: are the guys to me, when you go into a

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Speaker 1: game now and you want to figure out what the

457
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Speaker 1: Giants are gonna do, you gotta worry more about how

458
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Speaker 1: is the defense gonna match up? Because I think the

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Speaker 1: offense I think, I really believe right now they're given

460
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Speaker 1: they're going to score with twenty points and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have you in the game. I really think the defense

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Speaker 1: is the variable now. I completely agree. I think the

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Speaker 1: offense has stabilized for the most part. I think they've

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Speaker 1: shown some consistently over the over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: and I think part of that is keeping down the

466
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Speaker 1: negative plays and the penalty has certainly been a huge

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Speaker 1: turning point. The defense is Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde

468
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Speaker 1: and the bigger concerned with the defense is not just

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Speaker 1: how are they gonna come to play Paul, it's also

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Speaker 1: are they going to get a takeaway? The success of

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Speaker 1: this defense, Paul this year is tied to takeaways. It's

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Speaker 1: no coincidence. They beat San Francisco to Tampa Bay, the

473
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Speaker 1: turnover differential was plus six. They had six takeaways in

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Speaker 1: both of those games, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they go to Philadelphia. Granted there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: other factors, but notice they had no takeaways in that game.

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Speaker 1: When even at the talent of the Tampa Bay game,

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Speaker 1: things got interesting because the takeaways came early in that game.

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Speaker 1: If you recall before they got the game ceiling hit

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Speaker 1: deception by b W web Well, there plus seven over

481
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Speaker 1: the three and one second half of the season, and

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Speaker 1: they've won three of those four games. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: my point, Okay, So let's let's make sure we got

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Speaker 1: this right for everybody. Functional offensive line, positive turnover ratio

485
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Speaker 1: three and one record. Gee, what a coincidence goes hand

486
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Speaker 1: to hand. Those things are synonymous with one another. It's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of to your point, will the takeaways continue?

488
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Speaker 1: I always say they're a bit flukey because they fluctuate,

489
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Speaker 1: so you still need to be able to come through

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Speaker 1: and make the necessary defensive stops. And we haven't necessarily

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Speaker 1: seen a game where you haven't had an opportunistic defense

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Speaker 1: and the Giants flat out play top exits it owes

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. A reminder, Big

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Speaker 1: He's Palatino on Lance Meadow. Thanks so much for tuning

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Speaker 1: into Thursday's edition A Big Blue Kickoff Live. Let's open

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Speaker 1: up the phone lines, get the festivity started. We check

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Speaker 1: in with Len in Columbia, Maryland Land. What's happening, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Okay? Well, you know, Division game

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Speaker 1: on the road this weekend, another challenge and hopefully we

502
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Speaker 1: can come away with a division win. Here. Uh, you

503
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Speaker 1: know the talk down here, the word and you know

504
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: the newspapers and on the sports talk radio. It seems

505
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Speaker 1: to be that the red Skins will you know, heavy

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Speaker 1: reliance on the defense to shut the Giants down, and

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Speaker 1: that that seems to be the way in which they,

508
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, can get control of the game. And win

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Speaker 1: the game if their defense shuts us down. Um, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. You know, the first

511
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Speaker 1: game and you I think you guys broke it down,

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Speaker 1: you know pretty well. Um that that nose tackle, that

513
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: that rookie nose tackle really gave us trouble. Yeah, and um,

514
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: you know we got to get him blocked. Um is

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Speaker 1: going to struggle. Yeah, Sorry, no, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: the entire front seven is try I mean, Jonathan Allen

517
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: is another guy. You can't dismiss Ryan Kerr. Again, they

518
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: got plenty of playmakers in that group. Yes, they do.

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Speaker 1: They do. It's a good defense, there's no question. And

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Speaker 1: they're fairly fairly healthy. Of course, Karragan has always played

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Speaker 1: well against the Giants and has has tipped a lot

522
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Speaker 1: of Elife's passes, and I think he's taken a couple

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Speaker 1: of them to the house also, So that's that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough. You know, it's kind of interesting. Um. The

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Speaker 1: week after they beat us, they went down to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and of course Atlanta plays with a much better center

527
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Speaker 1: than we were playing with at that time with in

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Speaker 1: uh Mac and god, he really controlled that rookie in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: You know, was able to run and do whatever they

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Speaker 1: wanted against the Redskins. So I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a key if we can get that guy blocked, and

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00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: you know Barkley can get some room, and you know

533
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Speaker 1: Beck and Beck and can catch some passes and score

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Speaker 1: some touchdown. Pretty good defensive backfield, Um, although they got

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Speaker 1: one guy they just put on I are so they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go with a cup of rookies. I think in

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Speaker 1: the defensive back, Quentin Dunbar that corner. He's been in

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00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup though, because he's dealing with

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Speaker 1: a nerve issue, so they finally shut him down. Lenn,

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Speaker 1: I want to give you something to chew on because

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Speaker 1: I happen to disagree. I I don't think that the

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Speaker 1: Redskins defense is nearly strong enough to stop this version

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Speaker 1: of the Giants offense. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it

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Speaker 1: back to MetLife Stadium for just a second. According to

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Speaker 1: my records, six of those seven Redskin sacks came out

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Speaker 1: of a standard based defense, four man front. Only one

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Speaker 1: of them came on a blitz. Now, interesting, and why

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Speaker 1: is that significant? It's significant because that version of the

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Speaker 1: Giants offensive line did not have Jamon Brown in it.

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Speaker 1: That version of the offensive line had Spencer Pulley making

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Speaker 1: his first start of the season, and it was a

552
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Speaker 1: vastly different line than what the Giants have now. And

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Speaker 1: and that's why this is a big deal because it

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Speaker 1: Maybe you saw the staff that ESPN put out this week,

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Speaker 1: they said, for the season, Eli Manning is the third

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Speaker 1: highest rated quarterback in the NFL against a blitz. Okay, teams.

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Speaker 1: Teams did not have to blitz the Giants in the

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Speaker 1: first half of the season because the front line wasn't

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Speaker 1: holding up and they were giving up a ton of pressures,

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Speaker 1: a ton of quarterback hits, and a ton of sacks

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Speaker 1: against standard fronts. Well, you and I both know land

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Speaker 1: when a defense does not have to gamble and send

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Speaker 1: extra bodies, it makes their job twice as easy. This

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Speaker 1: is why if the Redskins believe what you just laid out,

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Speaker 1: they are in big, big trouble because the way this

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Speaker 1: offensive line is now playing for the Giants, the standard

567
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Speaker 1: front is not going to have that type of success anymore,

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Speaker 1: and it will force the Redskins into taking more chances

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Speaker 1: and sending more pressure, which plays into Eli Manning's hands. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right, Boul because I think, um, that's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna see out of the Redskins. I do

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Speaker 1: believe Manusky the defensive coach, they're gonna go after Relfe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question. I don't mean to hurt him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you're going after him and hurting him.

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Speaker 1: But I think they're going to try to apply as

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Speaker 1: much pressure as they can on Eli. That's good. That's

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Speaker 1: good on those rely on those defensive backs to to

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Speaker 1: you know, to cover Beckham. Um, let me let me

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Speaker 1: say something about Beckham. I you know, they just seems

580
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Speaker 1: to be an awful I mean, he's having a terrific here.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from him. He's

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Speaker 1: having a terrific here. But boy, they a lot of

583
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Speaker 1: times when when the ball goes in his direct there

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Speaker 1: really is pretty good coverage on him. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: because teams have decided now they know they really can't

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Speaker 1: really do much man to man, I mean Philly did

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Speaker 1: that at the end of the game in their corner,

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Speaker 1: held him twice in the end zone. Uh, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to cover Beckham man to man. Let's face it, he's

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Speaker 1: just too skilled. So what they're doing now is they're

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Speaker 1: using a combination of bracket and zone coverage. So when

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Speaker 1: Beckham runs his route, they'll have an under, they'll have

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Speaker 1: an over, and then as he's going across the field,

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Speaker 1: if he's running some type of of of slant or cross,

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Speaker 1: they've got a third guy who's who's playing zone and

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Speaker 1: then he picks him up. It's almost like a triangle

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Speaker 1: around him, so that one guy's passing off so that

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Speaker 1: there's actually a given point on the field when he's

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Speaker 1: running his route where they're actually almost three guys on

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Speaker 1: him for a couple of a second or some uh

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Speaker 1: you know. That's that's a very interesting point because you

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Speaker 1: can you can you can see that on the replays

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Speaker 1: that there are there always seem to be a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys around him. It's it's almost like shock circling

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Speaker 1: the blood in the water, right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me say something about Peterson um and

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if Sanchon, if if Sanchez's presence

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Speaker 1: is going to help him. By the way, the word

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Speaker 1: out of Washington on Smith the quarterback um some really

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Speaker 1: bad news. Apparently he's got a staff infection in that

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Speaker 1: leg and that God, they really I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this is really kind of touch and go from from

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Speaker 1: what the talk has been in the last two hours.

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Speaker 1: And he's not the first player we've heard about that

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Speaker 1: over the years who have had bouts with infections. And

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Speaker 1: hopefully he will come through. Okay, that's why he immediately.

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Speaker 1: But you know Peterson, when Peterson gets the ball on

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Speaker 1: the move, he's a lot more dangerous than when he

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Speaker 1: gets the ball out of a shotgun. You know, with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Next one takes the ball and hands it

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Speaker 1: to hip in Adrian takes off there. But when he's

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Speaker 1: on the move and gets the ball, he's a lot

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Speaker 1: more dangerous. Now I suspect that we'll see Sanchez on

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Speaker 1: the center, I don't. I never envisioned Sanchez as a

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Speaker 1: shotgun type quarterback, even a pistol type quarterback. I think

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Speaker 1: he'll he'll be on the center most of the time.

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Speaker 1: So but I think if we can stop the Redskins

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Speaker 1: from scoring on big plays, you know, freak plays, a

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Speaker 1: return of a kick along pass which they might try

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Speaker 1: early in the game, just try to loosen things up,

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Speaker 1: maybe hit one early um or Peterson breaking one like

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Speaker 1: he did US against US or against against Philly. You know,

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Speaker 1: he had the ninety yard run against Philadelphia, but he

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Speaker 1: ended up with ninety yards for the night, and he

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Speaker 1: also had they couldn't catch him from behind. The guy

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Speaker 1: still got some speed. Well, here was the problem with him,

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Speaker 1: uh Land. Honestly, if if you blitz like the Giants

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Speaker 1: did when they got burned in that game at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game at Medlive Stadium, when you blitz

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Speaker 1: and you commit too many guys rushing to the line,

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00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: if that crease opens up and he hits it, well,

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00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: now it's bye bye. You know it's it's that's not simple.

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Speaker 1: That's how he's going to make his big play. That's

644
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: a lot of guys will make big plays because there's

645
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: no second and third level of the defense to to

646
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: to knock him over. So the Giants, in my opinion,

647
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: I will I would not blitz very much. You don't

648
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: need to blitz Mark Sanchez. In my opinion, I don't

649
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: think you need to. So we're working at a disadvantage.

650
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: So I don't mean to say anything badly about Mark Sanchez,

651
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: but I mean it's it's Mark Sanchez. Yeah, exactly. I

652
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: might play. I might play next. We've got a big

653
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: advantage there. I think if we can you know, broken plays,

654
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I'll use the word trick or I'm not sure what's

655
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the trick play anymore these days, but you know those

656
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: those kinds of plays and hold them to field goals

657
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: instead of getting in the end zone. I think we

658
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: can score enough points to win this game. And you know,

659
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: hopefully that's the case, because I sure to get a

660
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: division win it I should like to get at least one.

661
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: This year. They got two less, so you know, they

662
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: got two chances to appreciate the phone call. Len. We've

663
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: always said, you don't win in the division, then you

664
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: have no chance to be competitive. And that's the unfortunate

665
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: part about what the Giants did this season. Oh win

666
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: four in their first four divisional games. They got two left,

667
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: so they can't even get to five hundred in the division.

668
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you the last time a team

669
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: wanted division with a losing divisional record. Fall Just understand.

670
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I just would like to see

671
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: the Giants to continue to build on what they have

672
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: already started, and that means win as many games as

673
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: they possibly can throughout the end of the season. I

674
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: could care less if it's a division game or not

675
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: right now, because they're not competing so much for a

676
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: division title. It's just about continuing the momentum and the

677
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: feel good winning attitude that they've gotten that locker room.

678
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm just making a larger point because you know, people

679
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: love to play the kudo, would a shot a game,

680
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: but even if you know one game goes this way,

681
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: the bottom line is they were at a disadvantage in

682
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: terms of their performances within the division. And just to

683
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: spell this out even further, I look back because people

684
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, well, Lance or what happened when

685
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks made the playoffs and they were seven and

686
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: nine or the Panthers when they were seven eight and one.

687
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Actually went back and looked at that Seahawks Rams year,

688
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: which I believe was two thousand ten. I want to

689
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: say the Rams that year played the Seahawks in the

690
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: final game of the season. If remember in Seattle, and

691
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Seattle won that game because they were both finished at

692
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: seven and nine, but Seattle had the tiebreaker. Seattle that

693
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: year was four and two in the division pall, so

694
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: despite the fact that didn't have a good record, took

695
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: care of business in the division. That's what I said.

696
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: You don't take care of business in the division. The

697
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: rest is over. I mean, there's no point to talking

698
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: about and should make it the division? Should we tell

699
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: people that there is a mathematical permutation where the Giants

700
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: could make the playoffs at eight and eight and it's

701
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: it's actually out there on the web. Of course, they've

702
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: got to win out before anything else happens. It also

703
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: involves the apocalypse and it does melting. As long as

704
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: you Antarctica, you bridge the topic. Okay, no, no, I'm not.

705
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm just but if we're gonna talk about these bloggers

706
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: that put these mathematical permus just want to let's say

707
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: that the world has to come to an end in order.

708
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it does, but but eight Nate could still get

709
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: them in with a bunch of real outlandish things falling

710
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: into place. Let's add back to the phone lines. Christian

711
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: is in New York, Christian, what's happening, hey, guys last

712
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: week about wanting to see more slants to odell and

713
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: more end zone targets and uh, you know, like I would,

714
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I would never call about something just for the sake

715
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: of it, Like I just I think it really has

716
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: something to do with winning and losing games because in

717
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen season, uh McAdoo and the

718
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Giants were like really leaning on that to even score points. Um.

719
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: But I was happy to see it this weekend. And um,

720
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about those slants is that they're

721
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: not complicated. He would get the defense moving one way

722
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: and send Odell's slant the other way, and I would

723
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: just like to see more of that. Well, you two

724
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: things really help those plays along. A Uh, you can't

725
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: have pressure from the front of the pocket because if

726
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: there is, then it's a lot more difficult to make

727
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: those passes over the middle. That's number one. Number two,

728
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: when teams play single high safety, that slant can go

729
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: for big, big yak yard insurance on the back end.

730
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: And teams have not played a ton of single high

731
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: safety against the Giants in the last two years. They

732
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: realized that that's really foolish because Shepard and Beckham can

733
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: destroy you. Right. Yeah, I mean I would. I would

734
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: say the Giants probably ran the ball even worse than

735
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: in two thousands seeing than they are now. So I mean,

736
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: to me, I just it just seems like Shermer isn't

737
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: really trying to get that going as much. But I mean,

738
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: they won the game this week, you know, so. But um,

739
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean other than that, I love the offense and

740
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: I love Shermer too, so you know, overall, I'm happy

741
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: with those guys. Okay, Beckham certainly has been targeted consistently

742
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season, and I appreciate the

743
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: phone call Christian. I understand his point is more about

744
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: where they're putting Beckham on the field, how they're running it.

745
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, they clearly have been feeding Beckham. It

746
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: just hasn't necessarily always been successful, whether it being the

747
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: end zone or outside of the end zone. But you know,

748
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: they ran the football this past week twenty nine times

749
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: and see Kwan Barkley had twenty four of those rushes.

750
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: That to me, is a very good recipe, especially when

751
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: you're playing from a lead standpoint, which they were. Fortunately

752
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: the defense and special teams fell apart towards the tail

753
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: end of the game. But I don't really think you know,

754
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: to me, it's nip picking. If you'll look back at

755
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: the game and you say Odell should have gotten a

756
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: few more slant targets, I mean, I think between Barkley

757
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: and Beckham, they fed the two of them more than

758
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: an ample amount of time in this last game. It

759
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how much Evan Ingram has

760
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: worked into the offense this week, if in fact that

761
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: he's able to play. You know, it's been a wheel

762
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: up and down season for him, in fact, mostly down

763
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: because of injury. He's really never gotten into the flow. Well,

764
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: that's why it's important for players like Scott simons in

765
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: and Rett Ellison, who I think has been extremely productive

766
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: and probably it's been a nice narrative, nice part of

767
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: the story this season, how well he's stepped in with

768
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram heard and even when Evan Ingram has been

769
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: on the field, he's been a consistent guy. Russell Shepherd

770
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: coming off a game in which he's made plays, so

771
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: you want to see more production. See That's why I

772
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: thought more fans would call up and say, Okay, you

773
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: get in Barkley and Beckham involved, but this offense could

774
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: go to a whole other level, Paul. If you get

775
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: consistency out of the Ellison's of the world, the Simmons

776
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: into the world, the Shepherds of the world, and perhaps

777
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: some of the other complimentary wide receivers like a Russell Shepherd.

778
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: That makes this offense even that much more dangerous. Yeah,

779
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: I would have no argument with that. Let's head back

780
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: to the phone lines two zero five one three. Coach

781
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: Marvin is in Delaware. Coach Marvin, what's happening we're doing? Man?

782
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: What do you say? Coach? Heyeah, yeah, I do it,

783
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: do it very well. What do you got for us? Well,

784
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I just want to talk a little bit about the

785
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: game this week that's coming up. Uh, it's a game

786
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: we should be able to make, we should be able

787
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: to win. But it makes me a little nervous. I'm

788
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: opening the air a little cautious. Um. We're talking earlier

789
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: about them running the ball with AHM Peterson, and I

790
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: believe that's what they're gonna do. But I think we

791
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: have to be careful that we don't get two lots

792
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: of in defending that run in the sense that they

793
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: allowed Sans to try to get in the rhythm. I

794
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: believe they're gonna come out. It's got to get Sanchez

795
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: in the rhythm because if they want to compete, they're

796
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: going to have to do more than just for the ball. Yeah,

797
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Well, I could see them Chris

798
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Thompson their third down back return this past week, so

799
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: he's fully healthy. I could see them trying to get

800
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: him involved in the screen game because he's got some

801
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: fresh legs. So I would expect to see them involve

802
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: Thompson in the passing game on some short passes, get

803
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: him out of open space, see if he could break

804
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: a few tackles. If you notice when he came in

805
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: coach Marvin against the Eagles, you know they took one

806
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: or two deep shots to Josh Dockson, but everything else

807
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: was underneath to Chris Thompson and Jamison Crowder. And if

808
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: you could get three or four yards to those guys,

809
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: you stay in manageable third downs. It would not surprise

810
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: me if Thompson and Crowder play a numerous big role

811
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: in this game so that they could stay in some

812
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: manageable third downs and then take their chances with docks

813
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's how they're gonna try to attack

814
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: the Giants, right, And that's how I think they're gonna

815
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: attack him. I think they're gonna because I think they

816
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: need to get sanch and some type of rhythm and

817
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: get themselves going. And I think that where they're gonna

818
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: do give him easy throws, plays that he lights, and

819
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: that's how they're gonna come out, and that's how they

820
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball, but things he'd like to do

821
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: and easy tests. So right, I think we're going to

822
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: be careful in a sense of how we gain planned

823
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: at sens them. So I think there's a game we

824
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: can get and uh, but I would prefer that because

825
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: with everybody's talking about the playoffs, and we shouldn't even

826
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: be thinking about playoffs. Um we just like I agree

827
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: with Fall, should be thinking about just getting the consistent

828
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: when get them consistent play and see where that takes us.

829
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: It takes us wherever it's gonna take us. We shouldn't

830
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: be talking anything about mathematical playoffs because I feel we're

831
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: not going anyway even if we think when I going,

832
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: Um but I would have preferred to play deep to

833
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Washington at full strength. Right is that's the problem, really,

834
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: not feeling we're going in and they urge. I want

835
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: to see them with the offers the line. I want

836
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: to see them healthy and then we go we compete

837
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: against them. Yeah, I don't think you ever won an

838
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: excuse when you go up against the team so that

839
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: people can say, well, you only won the game because

840
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: they were not necessarily a hundred percent. So I think

841
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: for the sake of the NFL, for the sake of

842
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the division, you know, it's always good to see everybody

843
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: stay relatively healthy so that the best teams are going

844
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: up against one another. But this is unfortunately the nature

845
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: of the game. You get down to this season, this

846
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: aspect of the season, you're gonna miss some key ingredients

847
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: across the board. And the Redskins, you know, people talk

848
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: about the Giants being hit with injuries over the last

849
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: two years, the Redskins have probably had it even worse

850
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: based on who they've lost. You know, Coach Marvin understand

851
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: one thing. Dave Gettlman and coach Pat Shermer and even

852
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: everyone else from the scouting in personnel department, they're gonna

853
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: look at everything and the whole body of work is

854
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: going to be judged and greater than the off season

855
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: as they determine who they're gonna take with them as

856
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: they move forward into two thousand nineteen. So I appreciate

857
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I do think that there is value

858
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: in winning the game, whether or not the skins are

859
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: depleted or not. I do think there's value to the Giants,

860
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: but I don't think the Giants organization is necessarily gonna

861
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: overlook the fact that, you know, if they win, they

862
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: will have beaten an opponent that you know is not

863
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: at full strength. I think they were aware of that.

864
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: I think they would acknowledge that because as as Dave Gettlman,

865
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, has has been very clear over the course

866
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: of the year that everything is being graded, so that

867
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: means the one in seven gets graded too, you know,

868
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: even though Pat Sherman philosophically wanted his guys to emotionally

869
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: clean that stuff out at the bye. That's great, they

870
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: are a three in one team right now, but they're

871
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: not walking away from the fact that one in seven

872
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: does exist, right because I'm not. I'm not. I don't.

873
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: People get me wrong the thinking that I'm a down

874
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm down playing the victory a professional players. So you

875
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: play who was ever in front of you, and you

876
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: can lose at any time when you when you get

877
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: out on that field. I'm just looking at it in

878
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: a competitive for my own feeling, a competitive um uh,

879
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: competitive part of the game in the sense that I

880
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: wanted them to play them at their strength. And Marvin,

881
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: I will say this to you. I will say this

882
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: to you. You know, as a coach, there there are

883
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: two ways to philosophically look at this kind of situation.

884
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: One is, yeah, I'd like to really get a good

885
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: litmus test for my team against the best competition that

886
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: can bring out the best in our guys, and let's

887
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: just see how good we really are. That's certainly one

888
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: train of thought. The other train of thought is, that's

889
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: a depleted team, and you know what, this roster is

890
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: better than that roster. That's a team we should go

891
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: in and beat. Go in and do the job you're

892
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Because it's games that you lose that

893
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to lose that usually will cost you

894
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. That's right, that's right. You should take

895
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: advantage of a team's weaknesses. That's what you should do

896
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: of games you should win. Uh. And I'm I'm I'm

897
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: a little little old school, a little different breed of

898
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: a guy. But the teams that we should win, I

899
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: I upplawed my team for those wins. But there's sometimes

900
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: there's those games. I just tell them enjoy the win.

901
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: But uh, we just we didn't really do anything. We

902
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: just did what we were supposed to do. So it's

903
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: sometimes I was a little hard in the sense of

904
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: I didn't celebrate those games as much as some teams. Yeah,

905
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: but you know what, coach, in the situation the Giants

906
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: are in, that is still a valuable step. I hate

907
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: to say it, but that's how far they had fallen

908
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: by going three and third team last year. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

909
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: they in position they can't downplay any game. No, they

910
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: cannot win. Is very tasty, no matter who it's against.

911
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: Yes it is, it definitely is. But I'm just looking

912
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: at it from mine, not actually the Giants point of view.

913
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: It's from my point of view that fair enough, they

914
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: do win the game. I hope they do, and I

915
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: think they will. But sometimes I just feel, you know what,

916
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to play these guys, that they full strength,

917
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: and we're just not doing it this weekend. So just

918
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: go and get the victory and and play well, you

919
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: know execute, That's all I'm looking for them to do well,

920
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: and that's the most important aspect of Marvin. I appreciate

921
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: the phone call. It's consistency from the Giants front. You

922
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: can't really worry about who you're playing. You just want

923
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: to see the offense to continue to produce, and you

924
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: also want to see the defense stabilize a little because

925
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: Paul and I were talking earlier about how it's been

926
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: a little up and down Dr Jeko, Mr. Hyde. So

927
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: if you do that, regardless of who you're playing against,

928
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter at the end of the day,

929
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: the caliber of the talent on the opposition, plus I

930
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: would make the point they just came off a game

931
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy. It was a little too close for

932
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: comfort with the Bears, where you went up against a

933
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: legitimate top defense. You were able to move the ball

934
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: and score more so than most teams that have played

935
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the Bears this season, So that was certainly encouraging. But

936
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you went up against the backup

937
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: quarterback and your defense had some breakdowns. So once again,

938
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing a little bit of the good

939
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: and we're seeing a little bit of the bad, regardless

940
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: of the Giants have played this season. Were you and

941
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I on the show last week when I said sometimes

942
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: in wins, you will actually play a worse game than

943
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: you did, I'll leave you on that show I remember

944
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: you saying, okay, and let's not kid ourselves. The Giants

945
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: played worse against Chicago, Okay, then they did against the

946
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers earlier this year. They played a much better

947
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: game in Carolina than they did last week. But they

948
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: won the game last week and lost the game in

949
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Carolina on a six three yard field goal. Okay, So

950
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: the narrative is, well, they were miserable in Carolina. That

951
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: was part of the one and seven team, and everybody's

952
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: upset and miserable, just miserable because of the loss. And

953
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: of course there are a lot of people who were

954
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: happy because they just beat Chicago. Every Monday. Coach Sherman

955
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: said this a week and a half two weeks ago.

956
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Every Monday, there is a litany of stuff that the

957
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: coaches need to correct. There are mistakes in every single game,

958
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: win or lose. You know. It's unfortunately that's not the

959
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: way fans look at it, and of course the NFL

960
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: doesn't because it's wins and losses that get you into

961
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You don't get brownie points for how you win,

962
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: but but to the coaches that matters. Well, that's why.

963
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: To add to what you just said, Paul Shermer has

964
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: said he hates victory Monday's because he said it's really

965
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: not a cause for celebration. He wants the team to

966
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: be focused on correcting still the issues, and sure they

967
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: had a boatload of them coming off of that Chicago game.

968
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: So your point is well taken. But once again, the Giants,

969
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: it's about consistency moving forward, regardless of who they're going

970
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: up against. But I also think, you know, coach Marvin

971
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: hit on an important point. And we've talked about matchups

972
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: constantly every week when we preview games, and we tell

973
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: you about the weaknesses and the strains of the opposition,

974
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: and we say, you know, listen, this could be a

975
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: good prime matchup for the Giants, and then it sometimes

976
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: turns out the complete opposite, mainly because the margin between

977
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: teams is very minute, and I know Paul loves his

978
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: quick and terminology. I just call it simple parity. And

979
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: the parity I think is apparent even when you lose

980
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: guys as your starters. Because this league, especially at this

981
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: time of the year, where everybody's not fully healthy, guys

982
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: are banged up, they're well into the grind of the season.

983
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: The level of execution is not that very different across

984
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: the board, and that's why you see a lot of

985
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: closed games. Let's head back to the phone lines. Jimmy

986
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: is in rose Hill. Jimmy, welcome to Big Blue Kick

987
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Off Live. What do you go for us? Hey guys,

988
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: how are you, Jimmy? What's on your mind? Hey? POI

989
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: I was I was in the dark there for a while.

990
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did discuss it, but I heard you

991
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: earlier this afternoon on F A N and you were

992
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: talking about the line and you use that what I

993
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: think it was a wonderful term, which was functional. Yeah,

994
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: and thank you and yeah listen, um My only questions

995
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: like why so long between visits, but we can talk

996
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: about that some of the time. Um, you know you're

997
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: talking about this game coming up, and um you also,

998
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: guys had mentioned early the statistics in the first game,

999
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: the running statistics. I don't know what position coach Marvin was,

1000
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: whether he was a head coach or a positional coach.

1001
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: He was a head coach, a youth level head coach

1002
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: for a long time, was he? Okay, So I'm the

1003
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: positional coach for the for the New York Giants this week,

1004
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and I'm the offensive line coach, and I'm going to

1005
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: point to that first game. I understand the personnel is different,

1006
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: which is exactly why I approached them and saying, guys,

1007
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: if we want to win this game, it's going to

1008
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: be up to us because the one place that the

1009
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Redskins are healthy, they got us two studs from Alabama.

1010
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: In the middle of the line. They got some line

1011
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: back by the number fifty four. I don't know what

1012
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: the guy's name is, but he's wearing a CE. He

1013
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: looks like he's a football player, So I understand. You know,

1014
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: you guys talked about how to go to run their

1015
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: game offensively. I think they are saying to their defense

1016
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: right now, we got to do the same thing we

1017
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: did in the first game. We can't let Barkley go crazy.

1018
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm going to focus Sunday on, is

1019
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: how our offensive line plays better, because if they do,

1020
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: if we play anywhere the neel like we've been playing

1021
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I don't think they should

1022
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: lose this game. But I think that's what's gonna come.

1023
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to those guys and

1024
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: we'll see how We'll see if the progression that the

1025
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: offensive line has been on continues because they are going

1026
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: up against what I think is a pretty good front seven.

1027
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that game again, I'm looking

1028
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: at my notes, uh, the Redskins. Of their seven sacks,

1029
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: one of them was on Eli for a hell ball.

1030
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: That was the sack that Alan got. It was a

1031
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: four man rush. But here's the interesting part. I'm counting

1032
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: it up here. Five one, two, three, four, five. Yeah.

1033
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: Five of the sacks were because of a bull rush

1034
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: where the Giants just simply got overpowered at the line

1035
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: of scrimmage right and probably in the middle. Okay, And

1036
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: and honestly, that's that's something that should not happen. It

1037
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: just should not happen. Okay, if you're gonna get schemed, Okay,

1038
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: at times, guys are gonna fake you out, guys are

1039
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: gonna make a really good move. But when you just

1040
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: get bull rushed, you know, I know that there's sometimes

1041
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: guys more powerful than you on the other end of

1042
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: on the other side of the line. I get that

1043
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: it will happen sometimes, but more often than not. If

1044
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: you if you just get pushed back into your quarterback

1045
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: and you get bull rushed and beating on a bullrush

1046
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: more often than that, that's that's just because you didn't

1047
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: dig in enough, right. Absolutely, Sometimes it's just a matter

1048
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: of want to, you know, and and and those big

1049
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: guys are dancing around in there. Oftentimes it's just who

1050
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: wants it, you know, who's got to want to? And

1051
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit more want to from from

1052
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Bob. I can I ask you one other,

1053
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: one other quick question. I'm sure there's tons of people

1054
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: who want to get on UM on the show today,

1055
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: and again, if you've talked about it already, I apologize.

1056
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: But uh, the other thing you mentioned when you're talking

1057
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: about Collins, you would you were referring to the I

1058
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: believe this transitional tag that the Giants might fly on them.

1059
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: What what's the dollar amount associated with that? Is it

1060
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: based on on what like the highest paid for strong

1061
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: safety is now making in the league? Is it an average?

1062
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: And if whatever it is, do we know what the

1063
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: number is in terms of the number of changes. The

1064
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: number changes every year based on the salaries of the

1065
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: positions during the course of the business calendar. So I

1066
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: can't tell you what the transition tag is going to

1067
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: be worth in march Land. You can look up what

1068
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: the transition number is going to be in two thousand eighteen.

1069
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: The the transition tag is top ten salaries at the position.

1070
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: The number of the mathematical equation works off of that,

1071
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: as opposed to the top five salaries at the position.

1072
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: If you're going to franchise tag somebody, So the transition

1073
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: tag is a lower figure than the franchise tag But

1074
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: the beauty of the transition tag is it gives you

1075
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: the right to match whatever anybody offers your player. Okay,

1076
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: so you still have protection. In fact, you were talking

1077
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: about that, what was it for foals? Who would you

1078
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: talk about that with the last year cousins, You said,

1079
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: that would have been a beautiful should have done It

1080
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: should have been a good because you still have to

1081
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: write a first refusal And if if someone is going

1082
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: to offer a blowout deal, chances are you probably let

1083
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: the guy go anyway. If they're going to overpay him

1084
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: by a ridiculous amount, okay, but if they're going to

1085
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: offer him something reasonable, well you imagine that simple. You know,

1086
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: that's an interesting that's an interesting dynamic. This injury is

1087
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: really adding a whole interesting dynamic to the Land in

1088
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: Collins conversation, which really, you know, because we've been in

1089
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: the course of the season, we haven't really spent a

1090
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: lot of time talking about. But I think even if

1091
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: we was not hurt, I think that there was a

1092
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: price tag associated with Collins and and we're gonna condamned

1093
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: to was the Giants willing to go it go that far?

1094
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what's the highest paid UH strong

1095
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: safety in the league. What does he make? Do we know? Okay,

1096
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: hold on a second. I got the numbers for you

1097
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: for two thousand eighteen. The franchise tag for safety uh

1098
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen was eleven point three million for

1099
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: one year, the transition tag nine point five. Okay, so

1100
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: you know you could save a little money by throwing

1101
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: the transition tag on again. You know. The way I

1102
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: see it, I don't think the Giants want Landing Collins

1103
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: to go anywhere. I think they want him in this

1104
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 1: locker room, and I think he wants to be here,

1105
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: which means there's certainly a chance that they wind up

1106
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: getting a new deal done anyway. But I think at

1107
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: the very least, the smartest thing, from my perspective, is

1108
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: to throw the transition tag on him. That makes a

1109
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: lot of sense, Paul, So it makes lost I mean,

1110
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: two time Pro Bowl. You're right, the president, he can't.

1111
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: He can't cover a postage stamp. We all know that.

1112
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: So I think if they do decide to keep him,

1113
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: it puts an even I think higher priority of finding

1114
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good free safety to hook up with him.

1115
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: But but anyway, but now this injury though does really

1116
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: it does. It does add another element. But it also

1117
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: but also Jimmy adds another element I think to the

1118
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: entire market because not only do the Giants need to

1119
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: weigh the pros and cons of the injury, any other

1120
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: team that would have been interested in signing Landed Collins

1121
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: also has to weigh that and whether or not they

1122
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: are now going to be as aggressive in giving him

1123
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: a lucrative contract offers. So I don't think it necessarily

1124
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: puts the Giants at a disadvantage because if you would

1125
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: have told me ten teams we're gonna go after Landed

1126
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: Collins if he remains an unrestricted free agent, maybe that

1127
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: number goes down to five because they're concerned about locking

1128
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: him up coming off a torn rotator copy. I don't

1129
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: think you have to go as high as the franchise

1130
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: tag to scare people away from him. Now, yeah, because

1131
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: injury factor. Yeah, I mean just like j people, that's true.

1132
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: Have a good day, Hi, Jimmy. Apreciate the phone call.

1133
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: The linebacker by the way, that he was referred to

1134
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: as Mason Foster number. Yes, yes, I wanted the leading

1135
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: tackler of the Redskins, and they do have a very

1136
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: strong lineback in core because they got a lot of

1137
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans that play back there. I wanted

1138
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: to mention he's the fourth leading tackler in terms of

1139
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: combined stops in the National Football League and what that

1140
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: number that you had up there, He's got one o

1141
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: two and then the next closest guy is Zach Brown

1142
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: that has seventy eight. In perspective I was talking about

1143
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, you referring his fourth overall in the

1144
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: entire NFL, but leads the Redskins by a nice margin.

1145
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: And I agree with the last caller's point in terms

1146
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: of if you're the Redskins, you know you're gonna test

1147
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: the Giant's offensive line even with new personnel, but they're

1148
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: also gonna focus on taking away say Kwon Barkley. We

1149
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: read you the numbers. Barkley didn't have a lot of

1150
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: at bats in that first matchup, only round the ball

1151
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: thirteen times. But I only had thirty eight yards off

1152
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: of those thirteen carries, so you had less than three

1153
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Washington is a very good run defense.

1154
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: That's been their m O all season long. They're gonna

1155
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: look to take him out of the equation. But the

1156
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: encourage aspect is, if you're the Giants, Paul, you just

1157
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: went up against the number two rushing defense Chicago, which

1158
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: was fully healthy, and you put up well over a

1159
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: hundred yards against the Bears. So if you did that

1160
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: against the Bears, you say, well, listen, Washington's legitimate, but

1161
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: why can't we have success against them as well? Tell

1162
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: them what Beckham did against the red Skins. That met

1163
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 1: life Beckham eight catches on your thirty six yards. Yeah,

1164
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: so go ahead, go ahead, stuff the box, try try

1165
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: try to take Barkley away. Be my guest, send send

1166
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: a few extra Blitzzeli's way, be my guest. Well, But

1167
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: even with eight catches for a hundred thirty six yards,

1168
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: they kept them out of the end zone and the

1169
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: Giants only put up thirteen points. Now, we mentioned there

1170
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: are a lot of negative plays, so you're saying, if

1171
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: you remove the negative plays, they focus on Barkley Beckham

1172
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: gets one on one coverage, it's a favorable opportunity. I

1173
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: agree with that game was more giant self destruction in

1174
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: an ugly game for both sides, but more giant self

1175
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: destruction than anything. Well, the penalties and the sacks hurt,

1176
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: but also even with their opportunities on the ground, they

1177
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: didn't do anything on the ground, and you've got to

1178
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: be far more productive, Paul, I don't care whether you

1179
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: run the ball seven times thirteen times. Different offensive line

1180
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: it is, but you still need to be productive. Understanding,

1181
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: but that line was not nearly as functional as the

1182
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: one that's currently playing. See that's why this whole matchup

1183
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: game I love. At the beginning of the season, when

1184
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: people say that's a w that's that's it is because

1185
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: the matchup on a given week, that's what determines who

1186
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: really has an edge. Right now, there's no doubt that

1187
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: the Giants have the edge on both sides of the ball.

1188
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean they're going to win the game,

1189
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: but they clearly have the edge well, and I'm also

1190
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: glad you brought up the game of that's a win,

1191
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: that's a loss because who would have thought that the

1192
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Giants would be playing Chase Daniel and Mark Sanchez impact weeks?

1193
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Did you know that when the schedule came out in

1194
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: the spring. Did anybody think that that was gonna happen?

1195
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Because he can't predict injuries, That's why that's a meaningless

1196
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: game goes without saying, but are you sure Billy Kilmer's

1197
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: not coming out of her? From what I heard, the

1198
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: rumors are untrue. I'm sorry to disappoint you, looking forward

1199
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: to him dusting off the pads and uh warming up

1200
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: the arm and get it set. But all right, it

1201
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: is a week to week league, as we always say,

1202
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: and the dynamics are very different heading into this week's

1203
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: matchup compared to what we saw right before the bye

1204
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: between the Giants and the Redskins. So that is gonna

1205
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: wrap things up for us today on Big Blue Kickoff

1206
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,040
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1208
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1209
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,400
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1210
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,640
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1211
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,400
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1212
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