Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody, A J. MacLean here sitting in for
Speaker 1: mister Lance Bass.
Speaker 2: Welcome to an episode of Frosted Tips, or in my case,
Speaker 2: Frosted Tip just one one big tip, definitely frosted. Thank
Speaker 2: you Lance for letting me sit in for you, buddy.
Speaker 2: I am the host with the most this is going
Speaker 2: to be such an incredible show. I'm honored to sit
Speaker 2: in for you, my friend. You're probably laying out somewhere
Speaker 2: in Cabo with Michael enjoying the sun, or you're in
Speaker 2: the gym working out, or you're playing with your kids,
Speaker 2: or you're figuring out what's going on with the next
Speaker 2: insane project.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing, but what I'm doing
Speaker 1: is taking over your show.
Speaker 2: And I am so stoked to have a very special
Speaker 2: guest on the show today that I personally sought out
Speaker 2: and requested.
Speaker 1: If any of you out there are a fan of.
Speaker 2: The show The Boys on Amazon Prime, if you're not
Speaker 2: a fan, if you are a fan, it's one of
Speaker 2: the greatest shows on television. I am so honored to
Speaker 2: have the fastest man alive a train, mister Jesse t
Speaker 2: Usher on the show today, cannot wait to dive in
Speaker 2: and dig.
Speaker 1: A little and maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: See if we can get a little inside scoop into
Speaker 2: the final season, season five of The Boys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun. And also for me, what's
Speaker 1: new with me?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be hopefully setting up a colonoscopy.
Speaker 1: I need to get that done forty six.
Speaker 2: Now, haven't done it yet, and I've been kind of
Speaker 2: slacking on that. So see, these are all the things
Speaker 2: that happen when you get older and you just kind
Speaker 2: of get complacent and you forget about it. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure Lance has done it. Sure Michael's done it. Maybe
Speaker 2: we can go get like a three for.
Speaker 1: One and they can come as my moral support.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually calling you both out, guys, if you
Speaker 2: don't mind coming with me, hold my hand when I
Speaker 2: get put under before they go.
Speaker 1: Check out my butt.
Speaker 2: And I am currently actually since we're talking about The Boys,
Speaker 2: which which is an incredible show, Jesse also has a
Speaker 2: show which we're going to get into, a show called Pulse,
Speaker 2: which is on Netflix. I am actually the host of
Speaker 2: a brand new show on Netflix called Building the Band.
Speaker 1: We've been shooting in uh in Well. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say where, but we're shooting at a remote location.
Speaker 2: We are almost done filming season one and my amazing,
Speaker 2: amazing cast that is LinkedIn with me. We have the
Speaker 2: amaze he seeing Nicole Scherzinger, Liam Payne from One Direction,
Speaker 2: and the amazingly talented Kelly Rowland from Destiny's Child joining
Speaker 2: me on the show.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for you guys to see this show.
Speaker 2: It is gonna break the stigma of how bands are
Speaker 2: put together. I think the show is gonna be over
Speaker 2: the top smash as well as you know, Bat, you
Speaker 2: boys are taking this year off, obviously, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: still doing all kinds of things next year, going back
Speaker 2: out to do two more seasons of The Fashion Hero
Speaker 2: as well as I am finishing up my debut solo record.
Speaker 1: I know I keep saying that, but I am finishing it.
Speaker 2: So Jesse is here, let's bring him in, Let's do this.
Speaker 1: I am stoked. What's up, Jesse? How you doing? Bro?
Speaker 1: I am blessed man. Welcome to Welcome to the show. Bro.
Speaker 1: I am dude. I have been like gunning for this
Speaker 1: for so long.
Speaker 2: First of all, First of all, congratulations on such a
Speaker 2: hugely successful show.
Speaker 1: You all deserve everything and anything. What an incredible cast me.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, So I so Carl and I have done
Speaker 1: a bunch of comic cons together, so I've I've hung
Speaker 1: out with him. He is one of the most sweetest
Speaker 1: human beings on the planet. He's such a good dude.
Speaker 1: And you know he plays he plays such a prick.
Speaker 1: But I love it. You know, It's like it's like,
Speaker 1: but you know that is that is that is Butcher.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That is that is the
Speaker 1: actual character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Like I you know, when I when I
Speaker 2: was asked to take over for the show, I was like,
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: Asking me, who do you want to interview? Who do
Speaker 1: you want to talk to? Him? Like we got to
Speaker 1: get anybody and everybody from the boys.
Speaker 2: I have been a fan since episode one when you
Speaker 2: burst through Hughey's obliterated. Uh dude, I was like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what am I watching right now? Like you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a I'm a huge comic book nerd.
Speaker 2: Like I'm a sneakerhead. I'm a comic book nerd, Like
Speaker 2: I got I got all my you know, I mean
Speaker 2: like dude, I don't. I I have I have a problem,
Speaker 2: Like I have a whole wall of bunkos and Marvel
Speaker 2: and everything. But you know, I knew about the comics.
Speaker 2: I knew about the comics and I never read the comics,
Speaker 2: but I knew about the comics. And when the show
Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, you know, superheroes.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be it's gonna be whatever. But
Speaker 2: not what I was expecting.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna go there. Okay,
Speaker 1: got a hold of it, and it's never been the same. Yeah. Know,
Speaker 1: where where do you guys? Where do you guys? Mainly?
Speaker 1: Shoot you guys? Shoot Atlanta? Canada? Where do you guys? Shoot?
Speaker 1: We're Canada, bro, We're in Toronto. Nice.
Speaker 2: I mean I know that's where everything everything is either Canada.
Speaker 1: Well Atlanta's Marvel World now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but but yeah, man, so let's let's dive in.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get in.
Speaker 1: Thanks. I appreciate that, my pleasure. Brother.
Speaker 2: So I was I was reading up some info on you,
Speaker 2: and I just got to start with this because I
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated when you when you think you know actors
Speaker 2: or actresses, you know, like some of the things that
Speaker 2: I find fascinating me being a singer. When you find
Speaker 2: out that certain actors and actresses can sting their ass off,
Speaker 2: You're like, whoa Like you know, my man Hugh Wolverine,
Speaker 2: you know, kicking ass on Broadways singing, and then you know.
Speaker 1: Bree Larson something like just all these different people that
Speaker 1: you had no idea. I'm sitting here, reading on reading
Speaker 1: up on you. You went to culinary school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're a chef, dude, Like what my mind
Speaker 2: is blown?
Speaker 1: Dude? Hold on a second, Oh man, I went to
Speaker 1: culinary school. What what what drew you to that? Like?
Speaker 1: What what made you want to go to culinary school? Dude?
Speaker 4: Ten years ago, if you were to ask me what
Speaker 4: I'd be doing for a living, I would have told
Speaker 4: you I have been cooking in a kitchen, you know,
Speaker 4: working towards being good enough to like design the menu.
Speaker 1: To you know, then launch my own restaurant. That was
Speaker 1: my dream. That was the goal. It's the only thing
Speaker 1: that made sense in my mind.
Speaker 4: Like when I was starting to you know, coming out
Speaker 4: of high school the junior senior year, and I'm trying
Speaker 4: to think about, like what college I'm going to go
Speaker 4: to and what I'm going to study. Uh, the only
Speaker 4: thing that I cared enough about was cooking and like
Speaker 4: owning a restaurant.
Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 4: Uh. This action thing was like it's always been a hobby,
Speaker 4: you know, like an after school like tivy, like anything else,
Speaker 4: because I grew up doing it and I never considered
Speaker 4: it to be a profession. I never thought that I
Speaker 4: would be paying my bills with it, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. It's like, you know what it is when
Speaker 4: you're starting out. It's like if it happens, it happens.
Speaker 4: It's fun, it's cool. Like I enjoyed the community. I love,
Speaker 4: you know, my fellow actor kids. You know, growing up
Speaker 4: here in Los Angeles, that was all great. But when
Speaker 4: I had to think about my career, it was cooking.
Speaker 4: It was you know, I want to be a Sioux
Speaker 4: chef and eventually an executive chef, and you know, just
Speaker 4: sort of worked my way up that world.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted, right, That's what I's.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, dude, I mean, like so I so this
Speaker 2: past February, I was in Indianapolis. I played in the
Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Let me just let go well, hold on, let me
Speaker 1: let me retort.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Hudson and I were glorified cheerleaders at the NBA
Speaker 2: All Star Game.
Speaker 1: I played for about ten minutes.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, nah, dude, you guys are
Speaker 2: not playing like you know, we had like c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud and these guys playing and I'm like, these are
Speaker 2: football players that are playing football in a basketball court.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is for fun. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: get tackled on a hard floor.
Speaker 1: So Jennifer hook shot from half court. I'm not, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I want assist, and that I was done.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just gonna I'm just gonna sit right here
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna look good and I'm gonna watch him
Speaker 2: and our and our coach was Lil Wayne, and I'm
Speaker 2: like he was just off in some other university. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this isn't You're not helping us right now.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I love you, man, but you're not really helping us.
Speaker 2: But I got to play with this amazing guy. His
Speaker 2: name is Kwame. Kwame is an incredible chef, world renowned chef.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He has an amazing restaurant called Tatiana's in New York.
Speaker 2: He's about to open up his second restaurant in DC.
Speaker 2: And and it's just kind of rang bells in my
Speaker 2: head when you were talking, because it's just like, you know,
Speaker 2: I I grew up doing musical theater, so I wanted
Speaker 2: to be an actor.
Speaker 1: I still do.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's still my number one passion. Never in
Speaker 2: a million years, if you would have told me thirty
Speaker 2: one years ago now that I'd be in a boy
Speaker 2: band singing and dancing, traveling the world, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I never never would have thought it. But
Speaker 1: I'm blessed.
Speaker 2: I'm happy. Obviously, it pays the bills. It's been a
Speaker 2: great ride, and we got and we're nowhere near done.
Speaker 4: But because like you gave me my flowers, I gotta
Speaker 4: give you yours. First of all, Bro, I grew up
Speaker 4: watching you, man. I mean, my sister grew up practicing
Speaker 4: your dance routine.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's awesome. Man, shared their posters on the wall,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: To even be sitting here having this conversation with you
Speaker 4: right now, it's so surreal, like and I'm actually sitting
Speaker 4: because I have yet to see you live in person.
Speaker 1: So for the next we're going to change that. We're
Speaker 1: going to change that absolutely be there.
Speaker 2: Well listen what we're what we're done with all this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna exchange numbers. We're gonna let that down.
Speaker 1: I got you. Are you? Are you La based? Are
Speaker 1: you here in La?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Nice? Nice? Now did you grow up here in
Speaker 1: La or where did you grow up?
Speaker 4: Basically? I moved here right before I turned like twelve
Speaker 4: years old. Was my sister and I were both in
Speaker 4: the industry. Some of my folks moved us here from
Speaker 4: Maryland and we've been here.
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, nice, you know.
Speaker 2: So I gotta say, like what I what I find
Speaker 2: fascinating about the boys above and beyond anything is you know,
Speaker 2: I saw this interview with Anthony not that long ago,
Speaker 2: where like he was saying, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people are like comparing Homelander to like Trump and all
Speaker 2: this stuff and like the parallels of this narcissistic dictator
Speaker 2: crazy and He's like, no, no, no, I just played a
Speaker 2: character that's not me.
Speaker 1: I don't that that's not what I believe in.
Speaker 2: I'm not him, And you know, but what I what
Speaker 2: I think is so great about the show is it's
Speaker 2: so like socially conscious about it's so mirrors what's happening now.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I mean, it's whether it's covering you know, racism,
Speaker 2: whether it's covering you know, the LGBTQ plus community, whether
Speaker 2: it's covering government politics, all of it, narcissism, dictatory, I mean,
Speaker 2: all of the things that it covers. That's what's so
Speaker 2: genius about the writing of the show to me, and
Speaker 2: about the character development because you know, spoiler free, if
Speaker 2: anyone is not seeing the show, you better watch it
Speaker 2: because I'm.
Speaker 1: About to almost soil for y'all.
Speaker 2: Right now, So your character started out kind of like
Speaker 2: a prick, you know what I mean, Like your character was,
Speaker 2: I mean, all all of the seven were like that.
Speaker 2: But now like you and MM and just this whole
Speaker 2: relationship and like now you kind of feel like this
Speaker 2: anti hero to me and I and I just I
Speaker 2: just love the character development with all the with with
Speaker 2: just all of you, like how many of you are
Speaker 2: turning against Homelander and all these things.
Speaker 1: It's just and so I've I've I've known.
Speaker 2: Chase for like fifteen years and he is like last
Speaker 2: time I saw him, we were doing the O two
Speaker 2: in London, and he had just shaved his head and I,
Speaker 2: you know, this was happening obviously during the show when
Speaker 2: he has his little mental breakdown. Yeah, and and I
Speaker 2: was like, so, dude, let's put the Harry. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm doing this new show. That was the
Speaker 2: first time I heard of the show. I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: it yet. Wow, that was the first time I heard
Speaker 2: about it. And I'm like, Okay, I'm about to check
Speaker 2: this out. And then obviously I've become oddly obsessed with
Speaker 2: the show. But so what what I like? What what
Speaker 2: about the show?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: And the character drew you in to do this show?
Speaker 1: Like like, was this a cattle call auditionhit? Was it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: This happened?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: So it happened kind of kind of strange for me.
Speaker 4: It was the first time the process like this had
Speaker 4: ever happened.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was shooting Shaft in Atlanta. John Davis was the producer.
Speaker 4: He and Eric Kripke are sort of like, you know,
Speaker 4: their their buddies from from who knows when.
Speaker 1: They produced so many things.
Speaker 4: But h so they you know, they were sort of
Speaker 4: plotting to get me to do a read for this
Speaker 4: a train character based on some of the performances that
Speaker 4: I had done in the past. Eric Crikey, you know,
Speaker 4: I guess sent this to my reps to have me
Speaker 4: film a tape, and I turned it down because I
Speaker 4: was shooting this movie and I just you know, when
Speaker 4: I'm doing a project, I tried not to get distracted
Speaker 4: by other projects. Like my mom has always said, you know,
Speaker 4: you don't you don't lose the bird in your hand
Speaker 4: for the bird in the bush. So that's sort of
Speaker 4: where yep, you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: doing this thing. I got a line to learn for tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I'm not about to take the time to learn seven
Speaker 4: more pages for this other job that I don't even have.
Speaker 4: So I said no, And they started talking, and John Davis,
Speaker 4: you know, sat down with me at lunch and said, hey, man,
Speaker 4: I got a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: He's got a really good project. He told me about it.
Speaker 4: I think it'd be great for you. Give us some time,
Speaker 4: take a look at it. By the way, he's on
Speaker 4: the phone if you want to talk to it. Just
Speaker 4: gave me the phone and I'm like, hey, yeah, there
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Me having said like a blind no, I didn't know
Speaker 4: what the project was and who this guy was on
Speaker 4: the phone, but you know, he was like, you know,
Speaker 4: if you get a moment, take a look at it.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: So I took a look, recorded the tape, hated the tape,
Speaker 4: scrapped the tape. I told him I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: turn it in and then just try to do it again.
Speaker 4: The morning before I went to set, and I just
Speaker 4: had this like and I feel back for my parents
Speaker 4: because they were in town I had to read with me.
Speaker 1: I just felt bound.
Speaker 4: I was like, I had this nastiness, you know, to
Speaker 4: me because I had this attitude of sort of feeling
Speaker 4: like my back was against the wall and I just
Speaker 4: had to do something and I wasn't happy with it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I sent this thing
Speaker 4: in like whatever, here if they want to take to
Speaker 4: send this tape and you know it probably freaking sucks,
Speaker 4: but whatever. So I sent the tape in and he
Speaker 4: called me back and he's like, I love this attitude
Speaker 4: that you have with this character.
Speaker 1: He has this like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like he doesn't give it about anything, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, He's just like pissed off and like,
Speaker 4: and that was how I felt in the moment, not
Speaker 4: really knowing.
Speaker 1: The lines, but trying to record this tape and it
Speaker 1: just worked, you know what I mean, it just worked.
Speaker 2: Familiar I mean, how familiar were you with the comics
Speaker 2: and all that going into it? Like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: which which I find fascinating because obviously, you know, going
Speaker 2: into something that has such a massive following already as
Speaker 2: like comic book nerds like myself, you know.
Speaker 1: You scary.
Speaker 2: You've got to live up to a very high standard,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's The Boys, Umbrella Academy, Marvel, DC,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you've got diehards out there that
Speaker 2: live by This is like scripture to them. So whoever
Speaker 2: gets picked to play these characters, that's a lot of
Speaker 2: that's a lot of pressure, especially if you're not abreast
Speaker 2: of any of it, Like if you're going in blind
Speaker 2: not knowing anything about the series or any of that
Speaker 2: has to be a stress.
Speaker 1: What is u.
Speaker 2: You know, Like like when I was talking about the
Speaker 2: whole thing watching you know Anthony and all those things
Speaker 2: about him being you know, his you know, character being
Speaker 2: compared to the Orange Man. You know, have you experienced
Speaker 2: anything in public with like people not being able to
Speaker 2: separate you from the character, like, have you had any
Speaker 2: because it is a very all the characters are very
Speaker 2: controversial characters.
Speaker 1: They are you know, have you experienced that in public
Speaker 1: a little?
Speaker 4: But it's never been in like, you know, a pessimistic
Speaker 4: or like a bad way. Usually it's just jokingly. A
Speaker 4: lot of people ask me to race, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, But also a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 4: ask me about like my stance on like the whole
Speaker 4: black Lives not Black Lives Matter movement and things like that,
Speaker 4: because that's what we've tackled in the last year or two.
Speaker 4: The last couple of seasons of the show has really
Speaker 4: just been like what it's like to be a black
Speaker 4: person in this multi dimensional corporation who you know, is
Speaker 4: involved in politics just as much as politics as they
Speaker 4: are business. So they're just wondering, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: how that feels to be the black character who's the
Speaker 4: only black man at the time, he was the only
Speaker 4: black hero in the seven, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's like, how does that feel? How does that work?
Speaker 4: So I've had those conversations with you know, with people
Speaker 4: and just sort of spoke about how it feels just
Speaker 4: being in the Seven versus you know, just looking around
Speaker 4: the boardroom and not seeing anyone who looks like me,
Speaker 4: although now we know that Black Noir is now you
Speaker 4: know Blair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and okay, so yeah, I mean yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I just I think it's really it's really done so
Speaker 2: well because it does cover a very serious issue, you know,
Speaker 2: and it does cover and you really you really convey
Speaker 2: that so well, you know, supporting the black community as
Speaker 2: well as you know, obviously the first few seasons being conflicted,
Speaker 2: but now kind of really embracing who you are as
Speaker 2: an individual, as this character and really trying to kind
Speaker 2: of turn over a new leaf, supporting the black.
Speaker 1: Community, being being the hero that you're supposed.
Speaker 2: To be in like like that that that one scene,
Speaker 2: Like I got emotional when that scene at the hospital
Speaker 2: with the little boy, you know, after you you know
Speaker 2: that no words are said like that, just your face
Speaker 2: and your expression. You could see the turning point in
Speaker 2: that moment in this character, like no, this is this
Speaker 2: is what it feels like to be a hero.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's not being someone's patsy and like you know,
Speaker 2: letting the.
Speaker 1: Corporation and yeah, it's none of that. I mean personal journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now did you did you were you big in
Speaker 2: the sports when you were in school?
Speaker 1: Like, did you did you play any any sports or
Speaker 1: really nice? Yeah, I tried. I tried karate for all
Speaker 1: of a month and I just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a non contact sport guy.
Speaker 1: Golf is my thing. I'm a huge golfer. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go play the golf is my thing.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, you can still get f playing golf if
Speaker 2: somebody shakes the ball, but chances are pretty slim, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, so what what do you mean? Well, are you
Speaker 1: sad that next season is the last? Like are you sad?
Speaker 2: Like do you do you feel like it's it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a great button or that you guys could could
Speaker 2: could keep going a few more seasons.
Speaker 6: Like here, here's what I'll say, and without getting anything away,
Speaker 6: of course, of course we can talk about this now
Speaker 6: because you know it's been announced, Like Eric made the
Speaker 6: announcement himself that this was going to be the last season.
Speaker 4: Yes, going into this thing, this is what we've known
Speaker 4: was always gonna happen. He said, Look, we're gonna do
Speaker 4: this thing. It's gonna be a crazy Ryan it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a five year run and then I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: my exit. So like we've known all in all that
Speaker 4: like this this series has been written out from start
Speaker 4: to finish in this way. You know, like obviously it
Speaker 4: gets catered to. You know, whatever's happening is as you said.
Speaker 4: You know, Eric is paying attention to the world around us.
Speaker 4: Heason incorporating that season the season, but the overall trajectory
Speaker 4: has always been five seasons.
Speaker 1: So we've known that.
Speaker 4: Seeing how it's grown so much, you're kind of sad that,
Speaker 4: like we going to put a cap on it, But
Speaker 4: you know, when you talk to him about it, he's
Speaker 4: so definite, and we just trust this man so much.
Speaker 4: He's he's always had something in mind that we couldn't see,
Speaker 4: and you know, we just couldn't envision and we've just
Speaker 4: been blessed to be so close to watch it come
Speaker 4: to fluition time after time. So at this point season five,
Speaker 4: you know, we're like, look, we trust you.
Speaker 1: We're not questioning it. You know, if you say that
Speaker 1: this is going to be it and everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be happy, then let's less rock and roll, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know the upside is you've got You've
Speaker 2: got the spinoffs, you have Geny, You've got you know,
Speaker 2: which is only going into season two, so you know.
Speaker 4: I mean the you know, everyone involved this is starting
Speaker 4: to refer to it as the Boys Universe now, so it's.
Speaker 1: Like, well it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, you you have the animated series, you have
Speaker 2: gen V going into second season, you know, and what
Speaker 2: I'm hoping is for you and for the rest of
Speaker 2: the cast. Obviously Homelander made a brief cameo in gen
Speaker 2: you know, in gen V, like hoping that there's a
Speaker 2: way to kind of cross pollinate so we get to
Speaker 2: see our favorite characters, you.
Speaker 1: Know, pop in and out.
Speaker 2: You know, love love to see a train come back
Speaker 2: and do these things, you know, and and you know,
Speaker 2: have a couple of spots, you know, because.
Speaker 1: Again like now you know, now you're rooting.
Speaker 2: For certain for certain characters that you may not have
Speaker 2: been rooting for at the beginning, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like now, me personally, as a fan, I'm conflicted about
Speaker 2: about Butcher and how much I like the character now
Speaker 2: or not, you know, like okay, well you know, but
Speaker 2: but that's what's so good about the show, Like to me,
Speaker 2: it's it's I would compare the brilliance of this show
Speaker 2: to what was my previous favorite series ever, which was
Speaker 2: Breaking Bad, because to me, that's a that's a perfect show,
Speaker 2: like perfect show, start to find ending. Yeah, like, and
Speaker 2: I've seen it multiple times, but like this is, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, the same as far as just how it's
Speaker 2: been laid out, how the characters have developed, the storyline.
Speaker 1: It's very true to the comics, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just a perfect show for what
Speaker 2: this show is in this genre.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: You know, I was, I was talking to some of
Speaker 2: the producers. I was like, you know, I guess you know.
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime is just like No Holds Barred. This is
Speaker 2: like NC seventeen, Like literally this is this is this
Speaker 2: is past rated R by far. Like when like I
Speaker 2: was just telling my producer, I'm like, have you seen
Speaker 2: the show? She's like, I've seen the first couple of episodes.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, you have to get through the first season.
Speaker 2: It's the first season is very much so character development.
Speaker 2: Opening episode of season two, that's when you know how
Speaker 2: crazy this show is going to be.
Speaker 1: I was on tour on my bus before the show.
Speaker 2: I had a couple hours and I was with my
Speaker 2: security I'm like, dude, let's start watching season two. We
Speaker 2: watched the first episode. We stopped and we're just sitting
Speaker 2: there and I'm like, I'm gonna have this visual when
Speaker 2: I'm on stage right now of Liken.
Speaker 1: And this exploding penis Like, I'm like, what is happening
Speaker 1: right now? And I did the whole show. I'm just
Speaker 1: like chuckling to myself and no one knows why, but
Speaker 1: I know why.
Speaker 2: Nobody else knows why. Nick was like, dude, what is
Speaker 2: so funny? I'm like, no, no, you.
Speaker 1: Won't get it because I know you don't watch the show.
Speaker 1: You won't get it.
Speaker 5: Dude, that's funny.
Speaker 1: So you uh so there's there's a new show on Netflix, Pulse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about this because this is a complete
Speaker 2: shift from the from the show that is, you know what,
Speaker 2: soho tell us about the show? Like, what is your
Speaker 2: show about? So Pulse Like Heartbeat Pulse. It's a medical drama,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's very romantic. It's very sexy.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, me and my cast on Pulse have
Speaker 4: nicknamed it the Sexy Scrub Show.
Speaker 1: It's it's very early years.
Speaker 4: Gray's anatomy where you know, there's a lot of like
Speaker 4: intertwined relationships with them the hospital, and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of drama that happens right outside of
Speaker 4: the hospital and in everyone's lives, you know, as they
Speaker 4: sort of branch out from there. But it's it's a
Speaker 4: very procedural, total opposite from The Boys. You know, I
Speaker 4: mean to work in scrubs and I put gloves on,
Speaker 4: and I you know, I deal with kids and babies
Speaker 4: and I talk to parents about why their child isn't breathing,
Speaker 4: and you know, and there's love triangles and all that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And it's interesting to be able to
Speaker 4: jump in to something that, you know, the water temperature
Speaker 4: is so different than what I've been through because even
Speaker 4: I didn't notice how dark and twisted my perspective has
Speaker 4: become just working on The Boys, where you know, we'll
Speaker 4: be we'll be on set and I'll pitch a storyline
Speaker 4: that's completely dark and everyone's like, it's like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, what hold on, excuse me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's is not what we're doing. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, you're right. Yeah, happy endings. Okay, happy endings
Speaker 4: are good. I forgot, but yeah, it's couple. It's coming
Speaker 4: on Netflix next year.
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice.
Speaker 2: So you already shot season one, that's all was done
Speaker 2: in the camp. Now have you guys shot season five
Speaker 2: yet or have you not yet?
Speaker 4: Writ His Room just started a couple of months ago.
Speaker 4: We won't go back to Cameron to the end of
Speaker 4: the year. Okay, Nice?
Speaker 2: Nice? Well, I mean you know, if you guys want
Speaker 2: any cameos, let me. Yeah, yeah, it would be even
Speaker 2: if I get killed, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I time to come in, dude.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, like seeing seeing Will Ferrell, I
Speaker 7: was like yeah, Like I was like like this this
Speaker 7: was like varsity Blues moment mixed with like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: training day.
Speaker 2: It was like it was such a weird, you know,
Speaker 2: boys in the hood moment. I'm like, what has happened?
Speaker 2: Like the last person I'm thinking is going to get
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 1: That car is Will Ferrell. And I'm like, perfect, Okay,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, look, people, what I love
Speaker 1: about the show.
Speaker 4: You know they can throw those curve balls and like
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense, but it does make sense at the.
Speaker 1: End of the day.
Speaker 4: And what I was saying earlier when I when I
Speaker 4: heard that Will fare was gonna come on the show.
Speaker 1: My first thought was we should kill Will Ferrell. I
Speaker 1: was like, see, like yeah, like because that's where the
Speaker 1: fans want to see.
Speaker 2: Like if if if I showed up on set and
Speaker 2: I had a cameo, like the true fans of the
Speaker 2: show would be like, Oh, please kill this battory boy.
Speaker 1: Please kill him in the most gruesome way possible.
Speaker 2: I don't care how you kill him, you know, pop
Speaker 2: his head whatever, like we you know, have have have
Speaker 2: a train run through him. I don't know something, but like,
Speaker 2: we gotta, we got to kill the battery where I
Speaker 2: would be honored to be killed. Yeah, dude, yeah, so
Speaker 2: you know, So what what is the day in the
Speaker 2: life of Jesse? Every day when you're off like, are like,
Speaker 2: are like, do you guys have a workout regiment? Do
Speaker 2: you guys like you know, do you guys hang out
Speaker 2: together when you're in the off season?
Speaker 1: Like you guys actually hang out from from time to time.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all over the place.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of our cast members are by coastals,
Speaker 4: so they live in New York and Los Angeles. The
Speaker 4: few of us that do live here, most of us
Speaker 4: aren't from here, so when we're not shooting, we go,
Speaker 4: you know, elsewhere, Like Anthony's New Zealand, Carls from New Zealand,
Speaker 4: so they both go to New Zealand a lot. But
Speaker 4: when we are here, you know, we will hit each
Speaker 4: other up at least around like birthdays and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So at least come together and like have dinner or whatever.
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, me and Jack went out for a drink
Speaker 4: not too long ago. You know who it's whoever's in town. Really,
Speaker 4: it's sort of how it goes.
Speaker 1: We hang out like that.
Speaker 2: I like how you said birthdays because like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: that's just there's no better word.
Speaker 1: You know. If this was Lance, he would say that's cute. No,
Speaker 1: but it is no, no, because it is. That's that's
Speaker 1: really cool.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, my I'm gonna I'm gonna put a
Speaker 2: dig on my boys because generally around birthdays, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm always the one that will call, physically call, and
Speaker 2: that's my bandmate, a happy birthday.
Speaker 1: I just get text messages and I'm like, all.
Speaker 2: Right, really, you know what, I was gonna get you
Speaker 2: something nice this year, but no, you know what, No,
Speaker 2: I'm not now, so screw you and yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see you in two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, yeah exactly. But no, But but like there
Speaker 1: is like Howie and I.
Speaker 2: We've actually known each other the longest outside of Brian
Speaker 2: and Kevin being family.
Speaker 1: They grew up together, they're actually related. But Howie and
Speaker 1: I have been friends for about thirty five years. Him
Speaker 1: and I have always made it a point.
Speaker 2: Every birthday We've gotten each other something religiously, no matter
Speaker 2: what it is nice, you know, because we are we
Speaker 2: are family, we are brothers.
Speaker 1: We've been through everything together. Yeah, you know, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: do you do you have a like a like a
Speaker 1: best friend.
Speaker 2: I don't want to call you out right now as
Speaker 2: far as the cant and send anybody off, but do you, like,
Speaker 2: is there someone in the cast that you really kind
Speaker 2: of gravitated towards the most and really kind of spend
Speaker 2: the most time with, hang out with, talk to you
Speaker 2: on set?
Speaker 4: And you know, honestly, I feel like we've we've sort
Speaker 4: of like compartmentalized our friendships on set. Like me and
Speaker 4: Lanz go out to eat more than me and anyone
Speaker 4: else on the cast.
Speaker 1: We both love food equally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So He's like Hey, I found this new restaurant, Jess,
Speaker 4: without question, I'm there. Even if it's just me and him.
Speaker 4: We'll send an invite to everybody, But if no one
Speaker 4: shows up.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 4: He and I will just go me and Carl golf together,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's like we have
Speaker 4: these things that like we each like to do. Jackets
Speaker 4: a huge fan of live music. He's got his band.
Speaker 4: They started being torn around doing songs and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So we'll go watch like a small group, you know,
Speaker 4: performing at some underground club or something like that. So
Speaker 4: it just depends, you know what I mean. The only
Speaker 4: time that we ever all really get together is usually
Speaker 4: just like birthdays or if we've had a long week
Speaker 4: and everybody knows they need to be compressed, we'll just
Speaker 4: meet up in one spot and now.
Speaker 2: Has anybody has anybody asked you or have you offered
Speaker 2: to like cook a massive meal for everybody?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, last asks me every day. I was like,
Speaker 1: Justice's the chef, bro, let's go. It's day of the day.
Speaker 1: Is there gonna be catering or or no? Or is it?
Speaker 1: Or is Jesse? Finally we're gonna walk on set and
Speaker 1: it's a Smorgas born what like, what is your like?
Speaker 2: As far as like, I feel like chef's kind of
Speaker 2: what I've learned from my from my friend Kwame is
Speaker 2: like he's so he's of night of Nigerian descent.
Speaker 1: His family's from New Orleans. His mom is also a chef.
Speaker 1: You know he is he making a movie about his
Speaker 1: life right now.
Speaker 2: You know what he might be. I don't know he
Speaker 2: might be. But once we exchange numbers, I'm gonna hook
Speaker 2: you guys up.
Speaker 1: Dude, he is. He's a huge golfer.
Speaker 2: I just got him hooked up with PHG because I've
Speaker 2: been with PHG now for about almost five years and
Speaker 2: I just got him fitted.
Speaker 1: I got him hooked up. But it's, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so his kind of cuisine, it's kind of a
Speaker 2: little bit of a Nigerian influence mixed with like euro
Speaker 2: Asian fusion.
Speaker 1: Like it's a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, I don't like seafood at all,
Speaker 2: Like sushi, I'll do. I'm not a big fish guy.
Speaker 2: His fish is like don't even tastes like fish.
Speaker 3: But is there is there a specific dish or style
Speaker 3: that you gravitate towards As far as like whatever that
Speaker 3: might be.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think that I've sat down long enough
Speaker 4: to like specialize in anything other than sauces. Everybody that
Speaker 4: I ask like, yeah, everyone that I that I've ever asked,
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you want me to make? They're
Speaker 4: always like, well, you're the sauce guy, Like you're the
Speaker 4: king of sauces, so like what can you make that saucy?
Speaker 4: So I'm like, all right, well we're doing seafood. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'll do a brain zeno. But like I'll try to
Speaker 4: find or try to create or try to think of
Speaker 4: some type of sauce as something that normally doesn't really
Speaker 4: go with the brazeno. I'll whip that up whatever and
Speaker 4: try to marry the two things together. I love saucy
Speaker 4: dishes myself, so I think that that's really where my
Speaker 4: my mind goes, you know what I mean, Like who
Speaker 4: cares about the protein?
Speaker 1: Like what am I going to do with it?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Into something? You know what I mean? So I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: you should do your own line of sauceage.
Speaker 2: Dude, I mean you should literally you should literally do
Speaker 2: your own line of sauces.
Speaker 1: That would be that would be something.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I just want five percent for
Speaker 2: bringing it up. That's all got you?
Speaker 1: You plug it in? Done? Is there is?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Is there? Like obviously now you're doing this, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of romantic drama, hearies.
Speaker 2: I know you did, you know you You've you've done
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. You've done, the sitcom thing,
Speaker 2: You've done different things. Is there any genre that you
Speaker 2: haven't tackled yet that you want to Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think action thrillers on my mind, you know, I've
Speaker 4: I've started started speaking that out, hoping to see what
Speaker 4: comes back in.
Speaker 1: I want to do something I want to like I.
Speaker 4: Don't even know if I can think of a reference
Speaker 4: point of what it is that I want to do,
Speaker 4: but I want it to be thriller and psychological in
Speaker 4: the way that like Shutter Island was, but with you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Yeah, I rewatched it again and
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is this is the level of thriller.
Speaker 4: This is the level of you know, like psychosis that
Speaker 4: I want to put people in.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta get you at Jordan Peele, Yeah, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jordan Peele would be a Jordan Peele would be it.
Speaker 5: God he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I had a moment to pick his
Speaker 2: brain at some event, just for a brief minute, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, first of all, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I'm a massive fan.
Speaker 1: I love everything you've done, and I love that you know.
Speaker 2: It's it's just so crazy because of stereotypes and all
Speaker 2: this bowl and all the stigmas, like you wouldn't put
Speaker 2: but in in in most people's minds, you wouldn't put
Speaker 2: a black actor in the sense of horror and like
Speaker 2: psychological thriller.
Speaker 1: Like he's such a horror buff. Like he's he's up.
Speaker 2: There with like Eli Roth and these guys, like he
Speaker 2: loves that that type of genre, and he has proven
Speaker 2: himself above and beyond that. He's like, dude, I can
Speaker 2: I can do this in my sleep. But I love
Speaker 2: that he's still he still stays true to the black culture,
Speaker 2: to the black community, has that undertone no matter what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: get out, get Out, just just blew everybody peran perfect movie.
Speaker 1: Nope, perfect movie.
Speaker 2: Like I mean it was just yeah, you and him,
Speaker 2: I think would would just do something fantastic.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll see if I can get in contact with him.
Speaker 4: If you see him again, tell him I'm looking for him, dude.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I will definitely pass that alarm. Yeah
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: So you were saying that you and your sister were
Speaker 2: fans growing up, you know time, so if you had to,
Speaker 2: so were you guys also in sync fans because everybody.
Speaker 1: Kind of had one side of the other. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we were both, we were both.
Speaker 4: But I think that like at the time, because this
Speaker 4: is when I had just started getting into like musical
Speaker 4: theater and stuff like that too, So, you know, performing,
Speaker 4: singing and dancing was like my thing more than acting.
Speaker 1: The acting things sort.
Speaker 4: Of came in, Like I was interested in doing commercials
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's sort of how I got into it.
Speaker 4: But then I discovered musical theater and singing and dancing
Speaker 4: became my thing, you know, That's how I started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like being on stage and like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like this is this is you for
Speaker 1: It's a whole other world. I mean, like I've been dying.
Speaker 1: Broadway has been on my bucket list. I've been dying.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen a show called n Juliet you
Speaker 1: need to see it.
Speaker 2: And Juliette it is so so Max Martin, who is
Speaker 2: the greatest songwriter of all time who is responsible for us,
Speaker 2: Brittany in Sync.
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, everybody, the Weekend, Arianna, Pink Everybody.
Speaker 1: He did a show called n Juliette. It's on Broadway.
Speaker 2: The writers of the show are the writers from Shit's Creek,
Speaker 2: so it has that, It's got that undertone. But all
Speaker 2: the songs are all Max Martin songs. There's probably eight
Speaker 2: Backstreet songs in the show. But it's such a it's
Speaker 2: it's such a great concept. It's basically if Juliet didn't
Speaker 2: drink the poison and had a second chance on love.
Speaker 2: Because Romeo is a playboy. Romeo's Romeo a laundry list
Speaker 2: of you know, lovers. He wasn't the only one whoa dude.
Speaker 2: It is such a great show. The cast is incredible.
Speaker 2: You've got to go see it. They asked me if
Speaker 2: I wanted to do it next year, but unfortunately Backstreet
Speaker 2: is going to start getting busy again next year, so
Speaker 2: I'm not able.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: But the fact that it's at least being dangled means
Speaker 2: that I'm starting to move in that direction because it's
Speaker 2: something I've wanted to do since I was six years old,
Speaker 2: when I first stepped on stage at the Royal Palm.
Speaker 1: Dinner Theater in Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 2: You know, I I grew up with two speech impediments.
Speaker 1: I had a lisson. I had a stutter when I
Speaker 1: was when I was kid.
Speaker 2: So the first show I did was snow White and
Speaker 2: they cast me as Dopey, who's a mute.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a backward like a backhanded compliment.
Speaker 2: I guess, but like I'm like, like, what the hell,
Speaker 2: I don't get any lions.
Speaker 1: But now I see why.
Speaker 2: But my mom said I stole the show because I
Speaker 2: had to learn sign language a little bit, and I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, so, yeah, that's when I fell
Speaker 2: in love with being on stage. Then starting to do
Speaker 2: musical numbers and you know, singing and dancing and like,
Speaker 2: like you said, being behind a camera it's stop and go,
Speaker 2: stop and go and edit. Being on stage live when
Speaker 2: you there's there's no you.
Speaker 1: All you can do is run off stage if you
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: But like, it's the greatest high in the world, in
Speaker 2: the world, so in the world.
Speaker 4: Just like you're up there and you're you, you're the
Speaker 4: puppet because you're doing the performance. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: you know that like I can hold this line for
Speaker 4: a second and I have everyone, and then when I
Speaker 4: drop it, I have you, and then I can make
Speaker 4: you laugh, I can make you cry.
Speaker 1: It's just all of these things and you're just like.
Speaker 4: It's like you're connected to all of these people at
Speaker 4: one time, and they laugh when you want them to,
Speaker 4: and they stop when you want them.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Like the feeling is insane. I'm just blown
Speaker 1: away right now.
Speaker 2: Overall, before we wrap, I just gotta say, like, we
Speaker 2: got we got a.
Speaker 1: Train number one.
Speaker 2: We have this like romantic drama free Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.
Speaker 2: You sing that, you dance, and you're a chef like
Speaker 2: this is, and you're a fan and you grew up
Speaker 2: on bout you boys. Like the world's about to explode, dude,
Speaker 2: Like fans, fans of this show are gonna be like
Speaker 2: wait what Like this is?
Speaker 1: This is the This is.
Speaker 2: Just so so freaking cool man, And like I I
Speaker 2: wish you all the best with everything you have coming up.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch the new show. I cannot
Speaker 2: wait to watch season five. I hate that we have
Speaker 2: to wait, but you know, I get it. I know,
Speaker 2: and I'm dead serious. If if there's any way to
Speaker 2: get me to be on there to be killed, I
Speaker 2: will do it.
Speaker 1: I will drop whatever up doing. Yes.
Speaker 2: But man, thank you so much for for being on
Speaker 2: the show. If you, uh, if you want to tell
Speaker 2: everybody your your social handles, where they can follow you,
Speaker 2: where they can find you.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, socials and everything. Honestly, if you just look
Speaker 4: up Jesse Tesher, you'll find me. I'm the Jesse t
Speaker 4: on Twitter. But everything else is just Jesse Tesher done.
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, dude, you are a rock star. Dude,
Speaker 2: I love thank you. Man, that so much coming from you. Bro,
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: And you wait and you golf and yeah, golf, let's go,
Speaker 6: let's go play.
Speaker 1: We are we are golfing when I get back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not great, No, And man, it's it's more
Speaker 2: about the hangout and the and the kind of bro time.
Speaker 1: But man, I.
Speaker 2: Literally wish you all the best. You'd freaking deserve it
Speaker 2: all and I cannot wait to see more from you.
Speaker 1: Jesse. You are a rock star, man, Thank.
Speaker 5: You, thank you.
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