WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Coach Ballgame, Mid-Weak-Major 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.440 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.880 It's an honor, it's a pleasure. Thank you guys. Everything 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.440 at Covino and Rich and we're streaming live on YouTube. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.880 Watch what you hear at Covino and Rich FSR. That's 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.760 CoV I, n O, Steve Covino and Rich Davis live 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.720 from the Fox Sports Radio studio. And what a fun show. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.200 We're here for the next two days. It's day one 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.120 of the Dan Patrick Hatrick the DP three. Always a 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.560 great time. And it's also tax day man. Yeah, you 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.519 always reluctant to open up to see what the return 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:35.800 is going to be or how much you owe. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.440 Oh, the the most anxious email of a year. Right, Well, Hey, a. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:40.960 Lot going on. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.320 We talked a little WNBA, some unprecedented stuff there, talked 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.840 some baseball, the playing games in the NBA. We talked 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.839 to Mendoz a lot. If you missed any of it, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.440 all on the podcast later. But Covino, there's a guy 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.560 that the minute I started following him, Yeah, I'm hooked 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.440 because I'm a big baseball and a big passion I have. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.440 Oh and by the way, when Rich brings things up, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.800 I tend to do the opposite, but he was right 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.199 about this guy. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.440 Cavin't rejects everything I say, but he's on board. You know, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.080 I'm way involved with coaching all my kids and there's 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.360 a guy that I think is like the master the 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.800 template of how you should be handling the kiddos, and 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.840 that is James Low Coach ball Game. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:23.960 You know we got we got him on the line. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.520 Coach ball game. What's up my man? 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:26.520 Man? 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.840 We're live this and I. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.800 Know you're a big DP guy, So welcome to the 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:31.759 Dan Patrick Show. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.480 Cavino and Rich filling in. What's up man? 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:39.240 Well, full transparency, you know twenty eighteen Jim nance soundlike 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:44.640 contest winner right here, James in California. And to be 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.360 on the back end of the Masters and to be 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.600 on your show, what an honor. I'm excited. It's Christmas morning. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:53.120 Let's go. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.120 Oh yeah, let me tell you coach ball game. I 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.120 think it's pretty cool that you get to not only 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.960 work with the kiddos. Were to talk a bunch about that, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.720 and if you have any questions for coach ball game, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.520 how to handle a crazy parent or a reluctant kid 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.560 or something, we'll we'll do it all with coach, Well, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.440 follow great stories. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.280 I have a rule coach ball game, and that rule 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.840 is vatos don't cry. But I know you say otherwise. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.840 I know you say, hey man, it's okay. You know, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.600 let it out means your care and things like that. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.160 Vatos don't cry. And I tell you man, I saw 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.560 you tell the story about Jim Abbott to these little 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.800 kiddos and I was there like, oh, it's beautiful. So 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.960 definitely a great follow and some great lessons. And my 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.400 first question is outside looking in. I have a teenage daughter, right, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.520 but I see rich I go to my nephew's games 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.680 all the time. I see friends. I saw KFC from 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.600 barstool talking about this this morning. Are we putting too 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.239 much pressure on not only the kids but the families 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.400 when it comes to all the different travel sports and 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.960 all the different leagues that they're in all the time? Like, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.760 are we concerned about family spending family time? And what 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.320 about kids burning out? It seems like there's a lot 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:01.840 of pressure involved in this nowadays. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:02.520 How do you view this? 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.680 Yeah, well, I agree with you, and it's the reason 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:11.840 I started a Sandlot tour where there needed to be 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:17.320 an injection of joy and common sense into youth baseball, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.400 which is what I coach. But it's not just baseball. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.440 It's all sports, and I think it transcends sports. It 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:27.119 goes into the homes as well. But yeah, I think 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.680 a lot of its parents living through their kids. You know, 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.400 my playing career didn't pan out like I wanted it to. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.960 I played four years of college, but I really wanted 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.600 to play pro ball didn't happen. So as I started 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.760 coaching in my twenties, I was coming from that place 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:49.000 of I'm not really happy with how my career panned out. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:54.200 So there was some passive aggressive tone. There was some frustration, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.240 and that caused a lot of pressure that made kids 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.400 want to quit the game. Thankfully, I had mentors that 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.760 put their arm around me and they said, hey, ballgame, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:07.200 You've got the energy of fifty camels. But that kid 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:12.440 hates baseball now because of your insecurity and those light 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.599 bulbs kept coming. And I think that's the reason why 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.600 kids don't want to play sports, especially when they get 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.880 to that twelve thirteen, fourteen where it's all about travel 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:28.600 ball and elite is because of adult anxiety. So I'm 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.400 just here. Who would have thought it'd be novel let's 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:36.359 just inject some common sense, some calm, some big picture 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:41.440 thinking in these parents' brains and let the kids play. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.240 If you go to the Dominican Republic, if you go 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.560 to Cuba, if you go to Puerto Rico, there's sandlots 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.520 and there's kids playing barefoot and there's no parents, there's 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.480 no coaches, and they're doing pretty good as far as 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.520 pumping out Major League Baseball players. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.520 So good, you said, Dominican Republic and some of these, uh, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.720 you know, great baseball countries around the world. When you 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.880 watch the World Baseball Classic and you see what the 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.880 Savannah Bananas are doing, and you see what Coach ball 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.960 Game is teaching kids at his camps and tour, do 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.599 we need to inject more fun into baseball? I know 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.160 you work closely with Jeter and Bobby with Junior, and 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:22.760 you're an ambassador to the game. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.520 He brings a bungo to the field. I saw Coach 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:26.000 Ball Game. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.039 There's a Fox there's a Fox promo for MLB on 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.520 Fox and it said fun is back in baseball? 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.040 Is that like an initiati? 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.919 Ever? What it has to be? And again, how is 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.360 that novel? Right? When you when you watch the WBC. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.000 What'd you notice about all the fans going there? And 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.520 I got invited in. I was the only US fan 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.479 at the Dominican Republic United States game, and I was 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.960 there in Miami. I was the only American fan a 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:02.760 in a July fourth man romper, but with a drum. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:08.040 I brought my jumbay drum and these there was drum 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.000 circles all over the place four hours before the game, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.520 and these Dominican fans, they invited me in. They said, hey, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.480 come on in, let's play. There's just a joy. There's 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.440 a celebration. They celebrate everything about the game. And you 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.440 notice that with the players when there's home runs hit, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:30.600 there's bat flips. There's just this little kid joy that 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.360 comes out from those Latin countries. So I try to 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.640 bring that to the sandlot that I put a drum 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.320 in the on deck circle. I've got this conga drum 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.640 with about seventy signatures, fifteen Hall of famers, every major 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.599 leaguer that I meet, I have them sign it, and 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.599 I say, this brings the party to the youth space. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.240 When parents roll up, they're expecting to stare at the 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.839 scoreboard and be anxious for their kids. All game long. Meanwhile, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.480 when there's a drum in the on deck circle and 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.560 coaches are calling kids by nicknames and just have this 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.120 body language of joy, the parents are like, well, wait 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.320 a second, so this does exist, this other thing, this 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.840 fun happy baseball, it actually exists. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.560 I'm so glad you said nicknames. We're here were coach 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.000 ballgame Covino and rich In for Dan Patrick. I took 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.920 coach ballgames advice and after work today. Late this afternoon, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.240 we have practice for my team, and I told the 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.000 kids last practice, next time we hang, I want everyone 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.600 to think of a couple nicknames, because we are now 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.960 a team that's gonna be doing nicknames. Can you talk 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.440 about the importance of what that does for a kid's confidence? 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.200 Well, I mean, I think it'll work in your board 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:47.320 meeting room today, Adults like take ten minutes, go into 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.600 the lunch or the coffee room and say, hey, let's 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.520 build some camaraderie here. We're a family, we're with each 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:59.080 other every day, instead of force feeding baseball knowledge down 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.120 their throats right away. Coach rich I'm not sure what 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:03.480 your nickname is yet. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:03.840 But I got it. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.280 It's Alca. He got the. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.440 Rolls off the time but say, hey, I can't coach 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.360 you unless I get to know you. So let's go 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.760 criss cross applesauce. I'll do it with you. I'll start. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.800 My name's James. Nobody calls me James. My nicknames coach 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.640 ballgame because my favorite thing to do is I love 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.360 to coach kids. I love eating spaghetti and meatballs, I 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.640 love playing golf, and I love playing the drums. So 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.760 if my nickname wouldn't coach ball game, it might be 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.800 coach meatball. And then we go around the circle and 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.320 immediately these kids are like, oh, so this coach he 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.199 actually cares about me. He's curious, she's curious. They want 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.920 to know who I am. Then you got him. Then 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.000 you can challenge him. A lot of people think, oh, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.800 he's just the fun guy. So coach ballgame must give 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.319 out participation trop since he slings out nicknames. No, no, no, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.160 I only award good choices. I don't even award home runs. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.839 I give a high five, or an ad a boy 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.240 or an at a girl. But I'm really looking through 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.040 a lens of character development. So there can be both. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.560 It's a both, and you can sling nicknames and joy 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.880 and you can also challenge and especially when you build 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.840 trust with him. That's straight out of the book of 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:29.320 Dusty Baker. Build trust. They'll do what you ask, especially 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:30.760 if it's outside their comfort zone. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.679 Had a boy, Hey, coach ball game? Were such on 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.040 the same pitch today? And that's why a great follow 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.840 because I know so many people that listen to our 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.839 show and Dan Patrick, they spend their weekends and their 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.880 weekdays not only coaching their kids but going to games. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.280 I have questions about parents, but I do feel like 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.040 I have the reputation of like, oh, there's a rich, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.800 fun time coach, but I'm, like you, a very competitive guy, 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.559 and I'm always juggling the when do I turn on 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.160 the competitiveness as a dad and a coach versus, Hey, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.560 let's play music, let's have fun, let's be silly. I 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.480 had Let's just say I don't. Don't I want to 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:07.440 throw people into the bus. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:08.120 But let's just say. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.080 I happen to have a parent come up to me 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.920 because I'm going to be coaching All Stars this summer 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:18.280 and they say, hey, man, we better have like like 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.560 a winning squad, and we're not sure it's worth it, Like, 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:26.160 how do you balance winning versus having funcus to me, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.480 Summer All Stars win, they're six, they're playing Shetland ball, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.679 pony ball. I'm thinking pool parties, running through the sprinkler, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.920 horsing around. Just to me, that's the memories the kids 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.800 will have going out to lunch in between a doubleheader, Like, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.120 am I off base here? 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:43.160 No? 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.760 You are absolutely not. But here's the deal. There are 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.560 people that look through the win at all cost lens, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.800 and how do we approach that? Well? I think you 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.120 have to prioritize the joy, and then right beside it 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.080 is character development. And then what is the byprice if 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.079 you're challenging kids and giving out baseball cards because kids 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.280 are showing up early, practicing at home, working on those 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.760 skills that you've been teaching them at practice, trying to 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.560 be brave, cheering for their teammates, hustling, getting down and ready, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.680 all those awesome choices at practices and games. The byproduct 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.200 is skill development and wins. But it's got to be 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.240 a byproduct. It can't be the only thing you're looking at. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.559 So for that type of parent, you got to tread 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.960 with empathy. There's an insecure eight year old within them 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.760 that isn't really happy with how their life is going, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.080 so they're living through their kids, and you know their 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.559 their ego is matching up with the trophies that their 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:44.200 kids win. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.800 Hey, coach, how do you do with a pacing dad 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.040 or dad that's on the fence like just a bit much? 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.840 How do you deal with that guy? I saw? I 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.760 saw a type of coach ball game literally jumping on the. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.640 Fence recently because the parents are wild, dude, And that's 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.120 why there's signs at the little league here in La too. Hey, parents, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.600 the kids are watching like parents need to remember that sometimes. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.640 Exactly well, I mean it should have started before the 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.960 first practice where you have a barbecue and you get 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.400 to know all these parents and you build trust with 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.640 all these parents. I always say, bring a kickball and 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.120 let the kids entertain themselves. That way you can get 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.760 to know all these parents, build trust, and then you 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.600 can lay out your expectations for the year. We're going 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.760 to inject maturity. These kids are going to play better 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.719 when they're feeling freedom and joy, not when we are 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:38.160 hanging on the fence. But that type of parent might 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.760 even after you say that or lay out those expectations, 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.520 they're still going to do it throughout the season. Maybe 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.280 you can take them for a cup of coffee, find 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.680 out why they are they are, why why are they 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.160 the way they are? And then you can drop a 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.160 truth bomb on them, but do it in a way 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.440 they're going to hear it. I mean it all stems 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.640 from insecurity. So they're very insecure. But I've had people 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.720 drop truth bombs on me that I heard because I 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.880 had built trust with them, or that they had built 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.400 trust with me. You can also try and bring them 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.760 in and say, hey, I need you to run a 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.600 wiffleball batting practice station on Wednesdays. I need that energy, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.520 but I need you to channel it to throwing wiffleballs 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.040 to kids. And then they notice, you know what, this 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.440 is a hard job. Uh, and these kids are they're 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.520 playing better when there's a freedom to fail. I'm gonna 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.400 chill out a little bit. But more than anything, you 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.000 got to lead by example. They're gonna watch what you 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.120 do when you when your kid strikes out in a 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.079 huge moment, Coach Rich and you have this body language 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.400 of I've failed in these moments too. Baseball is hard. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.839 Let's see how you respond. They're gonna it's gonna put 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.880 a rock in their shoe. They're gonna be like, hmmm, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.640 why is that? Why is coach rich not throwing a fit? 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.199 He should be, No, he shouldn't. So there you go. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.120 You know, coach ball game. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.360 Cavino is a big Jeter guy, so we're gonna I'm 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.000 sure he has questions about your new friendship with Derek, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.400 which must be wild for you. But you know what 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.800 I did not a bad piece of advice because I 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.400 know a lot of little leagues and pony balls are 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.240 starting around the country, you know, or they're just beginning, right. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.280 I played for my parents on the team. That video 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.800 of Jeter talking to his kids in the car, which 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.080 I'm sure you saw, where he's telling us kids, have fun. Hey, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.840 but I'm still Derek Jeter. We want to win, but 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.760 have fun. We're We're going to be proud of you 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.760 no matter what. And I was like, kids, I told 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.160 the parents, I'm like, I want you to watch this 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.040 video of Derek Jeter. I hate the Yankees, I'm a 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.200 Mets fan, but you got to appreciate the captain's message here. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.560 Yeah, and what I love in getting to meet him, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.760 and yeah, it is pinch me moments, but it's hard 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.360 to find a bona fide major leaguer that can communicate baseball. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.640 It's really hard to find a Hall of Famer that 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:56.160 can communicate with kids. He is a savant of people 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.640 and a savant of kids, and his his message is 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:06.160 all about failure and how to respond to failure. He 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.760 also talks about joy and how that's when you have 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.840 this freedom to fail. That's when you make aggressive mistakes, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.800 which leads to your highest potential. Is when you're free 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.280 to dive and mess up and swing and miss, that's 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.640 when we learn the most. But he's all about responding 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.160 to failure. And I know he had some a bit 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.360 of a climb in the minor leagues as far as 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.680 making defensive plays, hitting the ball, and there was a 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.440 lot of failure early on. And that's all he talks 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.040 about is that's the best gift we'll ever give these kids, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.080 is a freedom to fail. Let them fail, why, because 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:41.920 that's how they're. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:42.320 Going to learn. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.360 Like a rory, right, I mean, how does he win 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.280 the Masters last year and this year because he was 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.200 so good at failing. He failed so much that he 0:15:53.680 --> 0:16:03.200 had built this resilience. So yeah, Derek Cheeter many. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.680 Yeah, you know what, And he's a guy that comes 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.120 from great parents, and I think that's such a big 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.400 part of it, right, you know, doctor Jeter and his 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.120 mom were always there. How do you handle it when 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.320 you know the parents are just the worst coach ball game? 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.680 Is it a coach's job to step in sometimes to 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:16.440 help that kid? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.840 Well, I think a great way to approach it is 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.320 to well, first, you got a love on the kid. Right, 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.720 If that's the public display on a baseball field or 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.640 a basketball court, then I can't even imagine what the 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.880 car rides are like and what home is like. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.600 So sometimes that can be tough on the kid, right 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.320 if other parents don't want to deal with the parents. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.640 Right, absolutely so as far as loving on the kids, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.280 you know, just make sure that this is a safe 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.320 space for them. But you can't fight fire with fire. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.760 It just never works. A one on one conversation is 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.400 the best way to go. I think a message gets 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:03.040 across much clearer when it's quiet. So whenever you can 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.520 just go out for a milk or a coffee with 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.840 that parent and just let them know, hey, your energy 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.639 and your presence is awesome. But here's what I notice, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.800 and the only reason I noticed it is because I 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.960 used to do it, you've got to throw yourself under 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.000 the bus too, otherwise they're not going to hear it yet. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.040 It's a good technic. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.800 It's a good technic in marriage too. By the way, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:25.800 coach Paul. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.639 Bang I mean. And by the way, some of my 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:33.120 favorite messages from dads on the road is, Hey, your 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.120 message has saved my relationship with my kid. I think 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.280 it's also saved my marriage too, so it definitely seeps in. 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:46.840 But yeah, having those one on one conversations is super important. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.840 And then saying, hey, I used to do this. I 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:55.040 was living through my kid, anxious, micromanaging everything. They hated 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.919 baseball and they they didn't really like hanging out with 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.280 me either. That I'm noticing that with your kid when 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:07.680 you're here, they play a lot worse. And the only 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.199 reason I noticed that is because I used to do 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:14.200 it myself. That's the secret there. I'll paint a picture 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.640 with a story because storytelling is is my fave. I'm 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:22.120 in Virginia last year and the league president he hosted 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.639 my sandlot there. He said I need to say something, 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.680 And this was at the coaches and parents conversation. After 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.480 the sandlot, he said, my seventeen year old son who 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.360 was out here today ten years ago. We're in the backyard. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.560 We're working on this skill. We're throwing a ball. We're 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.480 trying to figure out this thing. And he couldn't figure 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.560 it out. Weeks and weeks went by, and on a 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.120 Saturday afternoon, for some reason, he did it. He finally 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.680 did it. He didn't. I said, you didn't give up, dude, 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.160 You finally got it. Yes at a boy. The kid 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.840 looked at Dad pretty shocked, threw his glove on the ground, 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:59.200 sprinted at Dad, tackled Dad, and he says, oh Dad, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.000 I'm just so thankful you're finally not disappointed in me. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:07.840 Oh yeah, I mean it's a big responsibility and you're 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:09.800 the best at it. I have another question for coach 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.320 ballgame on the Cavino and Rich show. You know, you 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.680 could see a little ballplayer when you know, when they're 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.720 in a bunch of group of kids, they all have 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.360 that look about them. They're all wearing the same like outfits. Now, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.200 those shorts and the shirts, those little chains, the necklaces, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:29.160 the slots, sunglass baseballnglasses like they have a look now 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.720 And I love that. But along with that comes with 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.760 along with the outfits comes with the hype, fire bats 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.200 and all the things that go along with. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.560 It, lighting gloves when they're seven. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.919 So my question is like, hey, you don't want your 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.119 kids to go without. So is this building confidence or 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.040 is it a waste of money? Like you, how do 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.920 you view those things? Because I do like the culture side. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.280 It's part of the culture and you know it's fun 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:52.840 for the kids. But what are your views on that? 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:54.000 Yeah? 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.000 And I see it all. I see the double barrel, 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.280 four hundred dollars bats, I see the oven myths, the 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.040 aura and the swag because I work with I do 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.520 some camps with the bananas and coach rack and kJ 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:07.920 and they even have a station for trick plays and 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.080 aura and I black and I embrace all that if 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.840 you have the means for that. But at my sandlots, 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.439 we share one bat, just like we. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.160 Did as kids. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.840 That's it and it's got dents all over it, gloves 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.480 and usually a tennis ball. But I always tell the 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.680 Roberto Clemente story, and I say, hey, this kid grew 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.560 up in Puerto Rico. Uh, they used a lemon for 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.359 a ball and they'd wrapped yarn around it. So womon 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.080 juice wouldn't get in their eyes when they hit it. 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.639 They used a stick a branch from a guava tree 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.840 for a bat, and they used trash for bases, and 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.760 they played all day on a farm with animals everywhere. Uh, 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.480 that guy became the best right fielder of all time. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.119 So I think if you're a little bit upset that 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.800 about sharing one bat in this sandlot game, well then 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.840 you need to step into Clemente's shoes. There's a lot 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:12.240