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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May eight.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguar's Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I do not accept welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. We've got a busy hour ahead

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Speaker 3: on this Thursday. Jeff Logoman is in. Austin Lane is

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Speaker 3: in with us today Wide Receiver Room Changers. They have

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Speaker 3: whacked Gabe Davis. We'll get to the aftermath of that

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Speaker 3: rookie mini camp eve. They'll be on the grass Friday

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Speaker 3: and Saturday. All the kids will be here, including Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 3: who has a college degree in hand after going to

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Speaker 3: Boulder today to walk in the commencement ceremony there and

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Speaker 3: rookie experiences. Jeff and Austin will want to try to

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Speaker 3: dig into the wayback machine.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a ride on the wayback machine to dig

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Speaker 3: into the history of rookie experiences with these two.

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Speaker 2: That makes more sense. Ten to Excel.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hours presented

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Speaker 3: Austin Lane, Good afternoon, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, what's happening.

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Speaker 2: I know, what's up. How we doing? I'm doing great, man,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Thanks for having me that. It's been a

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Speaker 2: few weeks. It's been a couple of weeks. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: back in fall effect. Yeah, we're back, baby.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the Wayback Machine. I like the name

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Speaker 4: of that, the way.

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Speaker 2: Screwed it up.

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Speaker 4: But you no, no, no, I like that because for

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Speaker 4: you it's the really way back but easy, not that far.

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Speaker 2: But it's all a state of mind. Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 2: a state of mind. Man. But Jav, I want to

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Speaker 2: ask you, because you mentioned, you know, getting whacked right

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Speaker 2: from when you get released, what is it? What is

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Speaker 2: like the official terminology when somebody gets like go from

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Speaker 2: her team, Because I've been I've been whacked before, like

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Speaker 2: I've had on Twitter it's aid Austinland whacked from the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, like like I'm in the mafia. But then

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Speaker 2: also I've been terminated before, which I thought sounded kind

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Speaker 2: of cool, Like what's the official Neither one of them

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Speaker 2: is cool. I don't well, I mean it's not cool,

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Speaker 2: but it sounds better than you know, getting cut or

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Speaker 2: getting released released is if you're a first off.

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Speaker 4: Let me just say this, your lack of sensitivity using

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Speaker 4: the term whacked is kind of I mean, come on,

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Speaker 4: I mean, football players are people.

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Speaker 3: You're eleven million guaranteed dollars. I think you'll be okay, Sure, sure,

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 4: The money makes it okay, I think it does. Money

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Speaker 4: has feelings too.

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Speaker 3: It has no feelings, zero feelings.

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Speaker 2: You can be.

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Speaker 3: Released if you're a veteran with the amount of service

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Speaker 3: time could be immediately eligible to sign with another team.

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Speaker 3: If you're waved, you have not reached that threshold yet

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Speaker 3: and you go through the waiver process claim terminated, claimed off.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a true. There's only the

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Speaker 3: two that was the organization for you. Who knows what

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Speaker 4: You know when I was playing, Yeah, you might have

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Speaker 4: just terminated your contract and you said get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a kind of an interesting thing, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody was thinking that Gabe was going to

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Speaker 4: because of the guaranteed money that he had. But with

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Speaker 4: the post June one designation, that makes, you know, that

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Speaker 4: the money, bite it and eat it and then move on.

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Speaker 3: And with that designation they can split that dead cap

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Speaker 3: money over the next two years. It's five point three

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Speaker 4: Year, fourteen and a half or so next year. You know,

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Speaker 4: the crazy thing. And Austin probably doesn't even remember this.

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Speaker 4: They used to actually have to wait until June one

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Speaker 4: until June one to cut some guys. Let's just say, hey,

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Speaker 4: the two years, to let the players catch on of course,

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Speaker 2: It is common. It was stupid.

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Speaker 4: Beforehand when you could cut a player and you had

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Speaker 4: can't do anything yeah, you know, it's it's a bad situation.

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad the league kind of changed the I

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Speaker 4: guess you could say the rule book, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about Gabe Davis, obviously you

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Speaker 2: know he went down the depth chart a little bit

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Speaker 2: when Travis Hunter was drafted. But I was a little

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Speaker 2: surprised because we have seen the good Gabe Davis when

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Speaker 2: he played in Buffalo, Like, we know what he's capable of.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised think him at least a

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Speaker 2: Can I wonder too, if.

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Speaker 4: The is the injury. I think is that you know,

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Speaker 4: look if if he was, if he were healthy, and

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Speaker 4: being right and improve upon last year. I think that

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Speaker 4: it would have been a possibility. But now you're just

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Speaker 4: trying to get back to the level where you were

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Speaker 4: at and perform at from a health standpoint, so you're

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Speaker 4: not really working to improve so to speed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. Well, keep in mind too,

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Speaker 2: I mean his game is predicated off of speed, right,

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Speaker 2: It's that first step and everything. He's not necessarily a

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Speaker 4: That's the one thing about Gabe I disagree. He's not

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Speaker 4: a burner. And if you would if you looked at

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Speaker 4: Gabe and you looked at his game, his forty time,

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Speaker 4: I think at best was like a four high four

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Speaker 4: appearance that he was fast because he was crafty.

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Speaker 2: He's always open, really crafty, did a really.

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Speaker 4: Good job of gaining separations, separation vertically and if you

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Speaker 4: look at his yards per catch, you first thought is

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Speaker 4: guy's got speed right, correct, But he really didn't have

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Speaker 4: And you know, and I think there was some questions

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Speaker 4: And I get along with Gabe Gray, but I think

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Speaker 4: add the injury on top of that, and then you're

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Speaker 4: moving forward with a new regime, you've got a new room.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes teams have a tendency say, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: let's just let everybody get a fresh start.

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Speaker 3: Ten games away, twenty catches, two hundred and thirty nine yards,

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Speaker 2: It's not a lot.

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Speaker 3: Where does this rank in like all time free agent

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Speaker 3: disappointments in JAG's history, There's been some, There's been something

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Speaker 3: in Austin. You got one in mind or or do

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Speaker 2: To go there?

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Speaker 4: There's there's been There's been one that's been worse.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember Laura Robinson, Laarn Robinson. Maybe no,

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Speaker 2: it's not it similar. I think maybe in the Trent

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Speaker 2: in terms of free agent signing is Gabe Davis. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to think of another one that Douglas.

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Speaker 4: We paid a guy I'm trying to remember. We paid

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Speaker 4: a guy like a ton of guaranteed money nobody else

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Speaker 4: really wanted on me. Came here and he stopped ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of people say Aaron

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Speaker 2: the Olympics on the big screen. His wife. But listen,

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Speaker 2: I love Aeron to death, man like that was one

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Speaker 2: of my dudes. But I remember that the exit quote

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Speaker 2: was he was just on vacation in Jacksonville and that

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Speaker 4: So somebody I'll think of it here in a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'll have to maybe go back and look. But the

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Speaker 4: great thing about Aaron Ross was is that I remember

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Speaker 4: doing televisihows we'd have his wife, yeah, benefit and all that.

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Speaker 4: We got to talk a little Olympics, you know, and

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Speaker 4: and she was fantastic. She was a fantastic lady. Great interview.

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Speaker 4: I think that was when it was not even the

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Speaker 4: new boards yet. This was like the old board. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's right, to watch it, that's all. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: My gosh, but god, I'm trying to remember the name

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Speaker 4: of the wide receiver that we paid and it was

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Speaker 4: just like the worst. It was one of the worst

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Speaker 4: free agent signings in Jaguars history. And this is an

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Speaker 2: This is an older guy.

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Speaker 4: He was an older guy that came here and did nothing.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to get back to this.

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Speaker 4: We paid him up and paid him up a bunch

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Speaker 3: To what happens in free agency. You paid big money

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Speaker 4: But I mean, you know nowadays, I mean everything, just everything, Dwarves,

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Speaker 4: you know what happened, you know, ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: We're attention Excel Jaguars at Common Jaguars YouTube. It's Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour. So with Gabe Davis now gone, let's take

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Speaker 3: a closer look at this wide receiver room. Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 3: You might have heard of him. Yeah, he's pretty good, decent.

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Speaker 3: Jommy Brown brought in free agency. We'll see he's got

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Speaker 3: a lot to prove he does. Travis Hunter hasn't put

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Speaker 3: There's those are the top four.

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Speaker 4: I'd say there's a longer list, certainly, but that's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think of this? So? I think

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Speaker 2: it's a very intriguing room for this main reason. I

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Speaker 2: think when you look at wide receiver rooms usually let's

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Speaker 2: take Tampa Bay for example. You see a guy like

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the outside, he's gonna be getting

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Speaker 2: the jump balls, go through the goal routes like you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a he's a big play receiver. A guy like

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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, Okay, more in the slot using his speed,

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Speaker 2: getting open, using his route running ability. When I see

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Speaker 2: guys like Brian Thomas Junior how he was utilized last year.

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Speaker 2: When I see guys like Travis Hunter, who and Jeff

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Speaker 2: route running. You can set these guys up in a

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Speaker 2: lot of spots, Like Brian Thomas Junior can play the slot,

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter can play the slot. So when you have

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Speaker 2: those guys being interchangeable, that makes it hell on the defense.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm excited about, is where exactly are

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Speaker 2: they gonna line up and what are these packages going

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Speaker 4: Let's get what we kept hearing in the last regime

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Speaker 4: with that group too. It didn't quite work out like

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Speaker 4: I mean, and those happen, but typically you can avoid

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Speaker 4: You got the name?

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Speaker 2: That's what he was making back then.

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Speaker 4: And here's what qualifies him as the worst JP. We

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, we were on ten to NXXL, Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Hour on this Thursday, and Jaguars Football is presented by

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Speaker 3: Fresh from Florida. It's Always in Season, JP, Shadrick, Jeff

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Speaker 2: Lane in with us Today.

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Speaker 3: We're at the Houndai studios of the Miller Electric Center

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Speaker 3: of Beehive of activity this week.

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Speaker 2: Phase two of the offseason programs. Here. The rookies are

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Speaker 4: Don't forget about the excavators.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the construction outside and all that going on.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 4: So I think that's the main focal point, or one

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Speaker 3: They're also working on the rookies this weekend, and we

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Speaker 4: I'll start with number one, staying healthy, and that goes

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Speaker 3: And they said it's a fluid situation too, They're not

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Speaker 2: a little more calm, cool and collected. If you get

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Speaker 2: defensive corner out there, like, they're probably gonna be shouting

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Speaker 2: at you, right, because defense, I think is based more

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Speaker 2: off emotion and just seaball get ball. Offense, it's a

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Speaker 2: lot more okay, well this is the play, this is

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Speaker 2: the motion. What does the defense give you, Jack?

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Speaker 4: I think Austin just literally took the offensive coaches and

445
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Speaker 4: put them in a box, and the defensive coaches and put.

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Speaker 2: Them in a Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I heard that. That's the perfect stereotype offensive guys a

448
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Speaker 4: little more cool headed, cool collected.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny that you bring that up because if

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Speaker 4: you sit there and you think about some of the

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Speaker 4: great coaches in history. I mean, I'm talking some of

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Speaker 4: the great ones. What boys are you putting them in

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Speaker 4: Austin's box?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I had Amy Reid as a coach in Kansas

456
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Speaker 2: City and like the calm, cool, collected way way off

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Speaker 2: the side there for Andy Ree. And then I had

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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz. It was a defensive guy, but.

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Speaker 4: Kind of hothead. Threw a punch of Kevin gobright, you know,

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Speaker 4: defensive coach. It's a little different.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at Aaron Glenn right now in New York,

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Speaker 2: right like he's kind of changing that whole by Aaron

463
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Speaker 2: Rodgers and everything.

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Speaker 3: Right, I love that Jaguars Happy Hour into that. I

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Speaker 3: sell Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: let's get into the first thing.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys ever do wages real quick? Incredibly proud

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Speaker 4: that Travis Hunter walked, of course, which is you know,

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Speaker 4: which is amazing because there's a lot of guys that

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Speaker 4: come into the NFL that number one are not as

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Speaker 4: smart as Travis. He's incredibly smart, incredibly dedicated to be

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Speaker 4: able to get his degree on time and to be

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Speaker 4: able to take that walk, I mean, and that's so

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Speaker 4: important for all the young athletes that are.

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Speaker 2: Out there that may be listening.

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Speaker 4: That's that's something that I mean, I hold when I

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Speaker 4: when I sit there and I think of Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: and the quality of guy. When you talk about intangibly rich,

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Speaker 4: that right there is an example of a guy being

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Speaker 4: intangibly rich.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I just wanted to point that out. Love it.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys remember your first rookie or your rookie

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Speaker 4: minnie camp? We didn't have rookie yes, so it was

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Speaker 4: with the team. Yeah, typically you had, you know for

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Speaker 4: a long time JP. It was the mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 4: for the team. Happened right after the draft, soon after

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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 4: And so that was my like my first experience and

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget, you know. I go to New York

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Speaker 4: and I didn't know where in the hell I was

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Speaker 4: going driving, which is not a good place to learn

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Speaker 4: where to go the first time going to New York, right,

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Speaker 4: So trying to get there was kind of an adventure.

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Speaker 4: I got there and then when I walked into the

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Speaker 4: locker room and I was like, jeese, these guys are

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Speaker 4: like grown men. And they're older and like some of

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Speaker 4: them are old enough.

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Speaker 2: To be my dad.

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Speaker 4: I was twenty one. Yeah right, yeah, I was twenty

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Speaker 4: one years old. You and I walk into the locker room.

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Speaker 4: It's got Pat Pat Lahy or Kicker. I think he

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Speaker 4: was forty. Dan Alexander, our guard from LSU and all

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Speaker 4: he deals go. It's not only the word two words

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Speaker 4: he would say to a rookie, you know. And he

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Speaker 4: was like in year thirteen, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and these guys are grown men.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, opening yeah, it's different. So and it ain't like

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Speaker 4: being in a college locker room anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yours was similar, though mine was definitely similar.

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Speaker 2: It was funny because our welcome to Jacksonville wasn't what

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Speaker 2: I anticipated it to be. So we were staying at

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Speaker 2: the Extended Stay kind of off the south side and everything,

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Speaker 2: and it was me Tyson A, Lulu, DAIJ, Kareem Scotti McGee,

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Speaker 2: and d Anthony Smith. And this is back when like

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Speaker 2: we didn't have like uber really right, So you have

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Speaker 2: to use a taxi cab, so we call it taxi.

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Speaker 2: We want to go like by the Saint John's Town

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Speaker 2: Center and just kind of check everything out, right, taxi

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Speaker 2: gab guy comes to pick us up. It's a van.

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Speaker 2: We all fit in. I'm sitting shotgun guys are behind

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Speaker 2: me and like, keep in mind, I'm a big dude

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Speaker 2: at the time, Anthony Smith is a pretty big dude.

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Speaker 2: Tyson's big dude. But the guy didn't make the connection

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Speaker 2: of the Louisiana Tech that's what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think he's a third round pick, defensive tack, defensive tax.

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Speaker 2: So we were all Senior Bowl team teammate. It's Tyson,

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Speaker 2: d Anthony and myself while play in the North team

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Speaker 2: in the Senior Bowl. So anyway, so we're getting in

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Speaker 2: the cab and we're like, all right, this is Jacksonville's

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Speaker 2: cool and the text driver goes, hey, you guys follow football,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, a little bit, a little bit,

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Speaker 2: And keep in mind this was the Tim Tebow year

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Speaker 2: and a lot of Jaguars fans wanted Tim Tebow to

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Speaker 2: come to Jacksonville. So we looked to this text guy.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I'll tell you what I should have got

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Speaker 2: Tim Tebow this and he goes, we get this, stupid Tyson.

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Speaker 2: I came and pronounced this last night. And he's sitting

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Speaker 2: in the back seat. And the best part is because

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Speaker 2: you know me, man, I'm kind of I'm a little

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Speaker 2: bit of smart ass, right, so I'm instigating. I go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I heard Tyson a whole kind of sucks. What's what?

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Speaker 2: And Tyson if you know, you know, you know, Tyson

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Speaker 2: is the quietest, most assaulted other dude ever. So Tyson's

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Speaker 2: just and back there just taking it from this guy,

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Speaker 2: not saying anything, just kind of have a smirks on

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Speaker 2: his face. And this guy's like, I can't believe we

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Speaker 2: got Tyson. Aluila, what a waste of a pick. So

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Speaker 2: that was our well, that was literally our first night

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, like for rookies, and that was our welcome

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Speaker 2: to Jacksonville moment.

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Speaker 4: By the way, By the way, the first time in Austin,

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Speaker 4: probably you probably thought the same thing the first time

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Speaker 4: I ever laid eyes on Tyson Ala Walla, I went,

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Speaker 4: my god, this guy's big boned. Yes, I'm talking knees

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Speaker 4: like this, calves like this for people on radio, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Making calves toasters.

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, like like I'm talking twelve by twelve posts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like even if it wasn't working out football, he's

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Speaker 3: just gonna be that.

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Speaker 2: Big broadcast, big dude man and an edge that could used.

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Speaker 2: He's used a lot by scouts. His heavy hands, Tyson

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Speaker 2: Aluila was the definition of heavy handed. Like the his

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Speaker 2: his punch, his pop, it was just different.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of wild criticized he was for the

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Speaker 4: Jaguars taking him at that spot. But I can tell

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Speaker 4: you this, Tyson Aliwalu had a fantastic career. Correct it

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Speaker 4: was a damn good football player, and when you look

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Speaker 4: at it in hindsight, I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 4: that Tyson's career was worth where he was picked.

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Speaker 2: I mean he played up until what I think two

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 6: Yittsburgh exactly and Detroit, which was a perfect fit of

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Speaker 6: course for Tyson to go to Pittsburgh for that body

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Speaker 6: type and the type of player that he was.

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Speaker 4: You almost wish that he had played in that Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: Steelers three four style of doingfense the.

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Speaker 2: Beginning exactly, cause I think with Tyson here and Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: people got so infatuated with like the quarterback sack numbers

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Speaker 2: and things like that, but like what people didn't see

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Speaker 2: was his ability take on double teams, his his ability

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Speaker 2: to cause chaos in the backfield because that doesn't pop

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Speaker 2: up on the box score, right, it's all about quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you know, sacks and tackles for loss. But when you

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Speaker 2: followed him to Pittsburgh and you see what he's able

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Speaker 2: to do there, I mean, they had one of the

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Speaker 2: best defenses in the league and it's stemmed from him

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Speaker 2: playing that Nos technique and just causing chaos taking on

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Speaker 2: double teams.

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Speaker 3: Imagine had he not hurt his knee in the Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: drill the first day.

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Speaker 2: Which was I mean, gets off the plane because what

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Speaker 2: do we do?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing Oklahoma drill in the first day

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Speaker 4: before I worked here right the plane and literally signs

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Speaker 4: his contract and coach del Rio goes, all right, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 4: Joe for Tyson, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying to remember most people be may rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: Benny was the one guy he did not want to

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Speaker 2: go against Oklahoma, which, by the way, to the NFL's yeah,

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Speaker 2: that'll wake you up.

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Speaker 4: You'll talk about epic matchup though, oh yeah, yeah, know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean Vince.

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Speaker 2: Tyson, that was the main car.

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Speaker 4: I totally understand del Rio's kind of thought process there

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Speaker 4: is that you know, let's set the tempo sure with

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Speaker 4: two guys that are I mean, I'm talking type a

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Speaker 4: cut from a difficult dude to get after it to

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Speaker 4: set the tempo for camp, and I get it. But

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Speaker 4: at the same token, I was just I remember going.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little to do this.

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Speaker 4: And then when Tyson hurt his knee, I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, ah, yeah, I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: Was worse Tyson ala Waalu pertinently in the first contact

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Speaker 4: drill in camp, or the first round pick out of

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Speaker 4: Florida outside Jonte Fowler in rookie camp, totally getting fatigued

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Speaker 4: because they were trying to wear them out. In this

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Speaker 4: rookie mini camp there was eleven on eleven stuff too

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Speaker 4: going on and he and I was sitting there watching

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Speaker 4: him and I'm going, he's fatigued. I think he's ready

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Speaker 4: for all this, locked by some try out right tackle

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Speaker 4: while he was a land and it was just I

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: thought it was like a fatigue injury sure, And I'm

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Speaker 4: just going, he's not or not?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I mean they're trying to stress the rookies to let

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Speaker 4: them know when you come back, you gotta be ready.

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Speaker 4: And then shag and I'm you know so, And then

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Speaker 4: after that everybody's like, wait a minute, maybe we ought

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Speaker 4: to have this acclamation period to allow players to work

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Speaker 4: their way into it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll come back in a moment. The Jaguars have

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Speaker 3: nine traft picks. They'll also have what twenty two undrafted players.

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Speaker 2: Some something got good money.

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Speaker 3: The question will be would you rather be a seventh

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Speaker 3: round pick or an undrafted free agent?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that when we come back. This is

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: We're in the.

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Speaker 3: Break talking more about rookie memories, if you will, or

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Speaker 3: infamous moments that might have happened in Jaguars rookie history.

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Speaker 2: But we left out the rookie dinner stuff.

658
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Speaker 3: I mean that, yeah, you know that might be later

659
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Speaker 3: in the summer spring, if they even do much of

660
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: that anymore.

661
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Who knows with some of the rules these days.

662
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Speaker 3: But you know, the question going to break was speaking

663
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: of money, right, would you rather be a seventh round

664
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Speaker 3: draft pick of the Jaguars with slotted money, nothing guaranteed,

665
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Speaker 3: or an undrafted free agent where you have teams maybe

666
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: competing for your services and offering different signing bonuses.

667
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Speaker 4: I think it's a great question because you know, there's

668
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Speaker 4: it's kind of twofold. If you're an undrafted guy, you

669
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Speaker 4: can kind of pick your place of where you're gonna

670
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: go to help give you the best opportunity of having

671
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: a job once September rolls around. If you're drafted by

672
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: a team that's stacked at your position, it's not helping

673
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: you out a whole lot. So and then a lot

674
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: of times, if you're highly solid after undrafted guy, you're

675
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: guaranteed money is better than any other guys that got

676
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: drafted in the seventh round.

677
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: Right.

678
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: But then again, if you get drafted, you can always

679
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: say I got drafted in the.

680
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Speaker 2: Right said yeah, yeah, I mean if it's me, like

681
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: there's something you said, yes, I'm an NFL draft pick,

682
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: something that goes into that. But at the same time,

683
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: do I want to be a draft pick or do

684
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: I want to have longevity? And I think when we

685
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: talk about longevity, if you can kind of pick and

686
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: choose where you want to go based off of depth,

687
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: based off of what the situation is, you probably a

688
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: better shot of making said team. So I would almost

689
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: lean towards me, an undrafted guy, maybe having a little

690
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: bit of a bidding war for me getting some of

691
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: that guaranteed money that hopefully making the team to start

692
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: the season off.

693
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's kind of interesting too from a contract standpoint.

694
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: You know, seventh round pick is getting a contract that's

695
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: around four years. That's around about four million dollars, which

696
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: is essentially that's the minimum salaries of the NFL combined

697
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: over the course of four years. And I was telling

698
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: you guys during the break, it's been some inflation.

699
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 2: It's a litle bit different, you know.

700
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: So back in nineteen eighty nine, okay, in the way

701
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: back machine. Here we go. Okay, we're going back in

702
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: the way back machine. My first contract as the fourteenth

703
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: overall pick in the draft was four years, two point

704
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: one million dollars, big money. So guys today are making

705
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: more at minimum in four years than I was making

706
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: it as a first round pick. Now, compare that to

707
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: the first overall pick of the draft was expected to

708
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 4: for a contract that's probably in the range of like

709
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: forty three to forty four million. That's significantly different. So

710
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: would you rather be drafted I'd rather be drafted in

711
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: the first round nowadays? It's okay, right, then in the

712
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: first round back in you know, nineteen eighty nine, sure,

713
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: and definitely would rather be drafted in the first round

714
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: than be an undrafted guy and pick your perfect spot.

715
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you.

716
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: Know what's also helped later round draft picks undrafted guys

717
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: is the expansion of the practice squad too. It's not

718
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: I mean comparatively to a contract, it's not that kind

719
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: of money. However, if you have two years or fewer,

720
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: you're getting paid thirteen thousand dollars a week if you're

721
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: in the practice squad, at least you're around. If you've

722
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: done the right things in camp. They like you enough.

723
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Speaker 3: You can be around and maybe you get pulled up.

724
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Speaker 4: You don't know how the games go later in the year,

725
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: so to be around that says something if you can manage.

726
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: What you're doing in training.

727
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: Well, when the practice squads first came out, the pay

728
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 4: wasn't even anywhere close to what it is now. It

729
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: was like four grand a week or something like that.

730
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: Three grand a week, you know, and I remember room

731
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: and board, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking. Guys were

732
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: like leaving the cafeteria with the go boxes. Didn't have

733
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Speaker 4: to buy food.

734
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Once they left the facility.

735
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Speaker 4: But I mean, I think paragraph five salary back when

736
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, when I first started, I mean, the minimums

737
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: were like like one hundred eighty ninety grand.

738
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Speaker 2: You know.

739
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Speaker 4: It's significantly different obviously nowadays, and it should be. I mean,

740
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 4: the growth of the NFL has been just just amazing

741
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: over the last thirty forty years. Incredible.

742
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: You have some vets that can be on there too now.

743
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: So their minimum weekly salary this year seventeen to five

744
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: with a maximum of twenty two. So yeah, you're on

745
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: there for a few weeks and then something happens an injury,

746
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: and it's just given kind opportunities stick around.

747
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: For practice a season long. You're not starving pretty good money. Yeah,

748
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: I wish I was around when I was playing. So

749
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: a little bit of a practice squad, you know, you're

750
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: going on the practice squad, a little bit in the

751
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: extra money here and there, veteran zero.

752
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Speaker 4: And the one thing that I do like too is

753
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: that you know, when the practice squad was first, the

754
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: whole idea was conceived, contrived, whatever you want to call it.

755
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: It was all about the young guys. So now you

756
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: can be a veteran guy and be on the practice squad,

757
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: which you know, look, you get activated off of the

758
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 4: practice squad, then seventeen to five all of a sudden

759
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: turns into significantly more because of your per week pay

760
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: is based off of about a million, which is the

761
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: minimum for you know, best veteran that's been in the

762
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: league for a number of years. So it's a big difference.

763
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Speaker 3: So let's come back in a moment and we'll get

764
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: our final thoughts with rookie mini caamp coming.

765
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Speaker 2: Up the next two days. Big yeah.

766
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: I think allowed to wear helmets during the Rocky minicamp.

767
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: I think they are the helmets are okay, shelves or not.

768
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: It's acclimatum. Okay, We're acclimated. We're achamening.

769
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're doing okay, and we're backing them home and

770
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771
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Speaker 2: J P.

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00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: Shadwick, Jeff Logman and our lovely wonderful special.

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Speaker 2: Guest Austin Lane and they studio with us. Great to

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Speaker 2: see you, Great to be back. Then, sprise. You haven't

778
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: got a seasoned assist yet from Brett Martin. Oh, but

779
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me back. Man. How's the show

780
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: going over there? Show's going on, Yeah, show's going good.

781
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: We're starting to get to more of like the creative

782
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: time than sports radio now because you know, football is

783
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: starting to be able to well, we got the training

784
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: camp coming up this but like the dead dead zone

785
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: a little bit. Just do me this favor ye as

786
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: a talk show host, I guess that's what. Yeah, don't

787
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: do the mount rushmore discussion on anything. We're gonna hate that.

788
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: We hope power rankings today so it's all good. Yeah,

789
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore, what is this amateur or what do we

790
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: do with power rankings? That was big and timely. Yeah yeah,

791
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: actually yeah, Jeff uh yeah.

792
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: You guys so so wanted to get back to this

793
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: the rookie contract thing because we were having that conversation

794
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: would you rather be drafted or would you rather end

795
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: up being a rookie undrafted free agent financially?

796
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Like what's the better?

797
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 4: So I was looking and the Jaguars have one of

798
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: the one of the top guys in the league, Danny

799
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: Strigau from University of Minnesota's defensive end. Watch the film

800
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: on the power guy set to the Edge. Good got

801
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: a ways to go as a pass rusher, but he

802
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: got the twelfth most money guaranteed need money out of

803
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: any undrafted rookie free agent in the league in the league,

804
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: and that was two hundred and this is a two

805
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty four thousand dollars. The guy at the top,

806
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: Ben Chuck Wooma from the Buccaneers. I don't know what

807
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: position I'm assuming maybe defensive end. Maybe you can find

808
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: that JP Chuck Chuck Chukwuma three hundred grand. That was

809
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: the highest amount of any undrafted free agent offensive lineman.

810
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: Okay, now is there a cap? Like? How does that

811
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: work for undrafted?

812
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Like?

813
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: I think there is a cab for all of that

814
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: pool and I don't know exactly how they configure that,

815
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: but they do have a pool for that. The Jaguars

816
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: also had an offensive lineman from Penn State Wormley. They

817
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: paid him over one hundred thousand dollars, which obviously is

818
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: a position of need for the Jaguars. And but yeah,

819
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: I mean that's I mean to be a highly desirable

820
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: undrafted guy. I mean, Austin, what were you fIF How

821
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: was a fifth round pick? And my like my signing

822
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: bonus when I signed, it was like one fifty four.

823
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: So I mean, these guys right here surpassed and here's

824
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: a fifth round pick.

825
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it because they actually caught me at

826
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: check and I lost in the airport and I went

827
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Speaker 2: back to Wisconsin. So I had to go back and

828
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Speaker 2: get my check from the airport. Oh you found it,

829
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: though I thought it was this between the seats were good.

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Speaker 2: It's good. An actual pay. Probably i'd probably get a

831
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: direct depositive next time. You know what I'm saying. But

832
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: I had a payper check and then I had to

833
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: go back. I never forget when.

834
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Speaker 4: When I went to New York and I got my

835
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: signing modist. Yeah, and god rest is soul. Billy Hampton Junior,

836
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: Okay was the assistant equipment manager. The head guy was

837
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Speaker 4: Bill Hampton Senior, legendary from even going back to the

838
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: Joe Namath days. He'd been there. And it was a

839
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: family affair. So you had Bill Hampton Senior was the

840
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: head equipment guy. Bill Hampton Junior was the assistant guy.

841
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: And then you had the family work in the entire

842
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: clubhouse as well. Clay was the assistant equipment manager, the

843
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: assistant and then Derek was like an equipment intern, the

844
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: whole family. And then on the weekends they had a

845
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: couple brothers, I think Brian that worked the visiting locker rooms. Anyway,

846
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: so my signing bonus check, you know, go there and

847
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 4: sign my contract, go into training camp, and I was

848
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: hold out because they wouldn't give me a fair market deal.

849
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 4: Get my signing bonus. We agree, and all of a

850
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: sudden here comes Bill Hampton Junior and he's pushing. Remember

851
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: the shoulder pads cart of course, So for people that

852
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: don't know, there's these kind of trolleys that they put

853
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: the equipment bags on for all the players and in

854
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 4: those bags helmets, shoulder pads, all the equipment of player

855
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 4: needs to play a game. And so these big trolley

856
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: things and he's Billy's pushing and he's like, oh and

857
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: there's nothing on it but one envelope.

858
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Pushing it in the locker room.

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00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: So he's acting like he's pushing. Okay, the Rock of

860
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: God comes in an equipment room and then it goes

861
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: to my locker and.

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00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm going, what the hell was going on?

863
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, lockman, here's your signing motus checks.

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jeff, was the first thing that you bought

865
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: because everyone's got a vehicle, which you get nineteen eighty

866
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: nine Ford Bronco eighty hour edish. There you go.

867
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Speaker 4: I had to have, said a wheel as I had

868
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Speaker 4: to get for me vacation.

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Speaker 2: It was yours.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: My first thing I bought was a new pair of vans,

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00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: and then I got a cannons.

873
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Speaker 4: By the way, for people that don't know her shoes shoes,

874
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, yeah, not literally an a van he didn't

875
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: buy a pair of vehicles.

876
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: No, And then I bought a Cadillac ext truck with

877
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: twenty six inch rims. It was all black, it was

878
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: black on black. And then went through a drive through.

879
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: And then literally the first day I had the rims,

880
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: went through a drive through scrape the rims up. Had

881
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: to get some new rims. So that lasted a lasted

882
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: twenty four hours with those rims.

883
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't have any fancy rims all night.

884
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: I got fair stock. This smart way to do it,

885
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: stock stock rims. Yeah, what what what you're lacking for?

886
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: Like the exterior, Yeah, in the interior with Eddie Bauer editions,

887
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: comfortable sitting right.

888
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: I did put a sound system in it.

889
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, there you go. I like my

890
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: music still like a little bit.

891
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nowadays I just put you know, nowadays you can

892
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: just get one of those blue tooth speakers and put

893
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: in there. That's all you need. But back then, you know,

894
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: I had the bazooka two, you know, you know, the

895
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: whole whole nine yards, you know, it was like a

896
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: bazooka two was probably about a I don't know about

897
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: a six seven inch bazooka tube, right, behind the rear seat,

898
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: the very back a little bit.

899
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: I bet you had some sweet cassettes in your car.

900
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 4: Actually, uh, I think I had a CDs. I had

901
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: a ten of cartridge CD player in the consoles convenient. Yes,

902
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: some people like the trunk right, Yeah, it was. It

903
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: was a Sony ten disc cartridge CD player. And the

904
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: great thing is is that I had a home stereo

905
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 4: system that that car would fit. The same hole system

906
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: that interchangeable, so I could take my cartridges out and

907
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: then interchange.

908
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: It, you know, from A to B A.

909
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 4: But that pretty sweet.

910
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: It's pretty sweet.

911
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: And it was nice too. It was a dark blue

912
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: and tan. Of course, all the Eddie Bowers pretty much

913
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: were all teen. It was like the trim package and

914
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: then the inside had kind of that tan inside. Yeah,

915
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: And it was a total dog. The engine was junk.

916
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: They underpowered those for years. By the way, it sounds

917
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: like you're not over it, you know. I was very

918
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: disappointed of the power of that thing. And then finally

919
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: I got Chevy Tahoe when I came to Jacksonville in

920
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: ninety five, and that.

921
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: Was a great vehicle. That was a great one.

922
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: Still are Rookie Minni caamp This weekend on the field

923
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: Friday and Saturday, we talked a lot about Travis Hunter.

924
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: How about some of the other eight draft picks. Who

925
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: are you excited to see?

926
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: If you're not gonna be here here about watch highlights

927
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: of Travis Hunter is the star attraction, but there are

928
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that can contribute in the draft

929
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: class year coming up.

930
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name is Caleb Ransaw just because when he

931
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: was drafted I kind of had some skeptical eyes a

932
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: little bit of what was the plan gonna be at cornerback?

933
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: But by my indications, he's gonna be playing safety. Sky's

934
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: extremely fast, He's gonna bring an interesting dynamic in terms

935
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: of coming downhill and laying the lumber, if you will.

936
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to see what's he gonna look

937
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: like playing safety a little bit obviously the pads won't

938
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: be once you can't get the full effect, but just

939
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: does he look comfortable playing maybe a new spot flogs.

940
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of hard for me to do this, okay,

941
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: because I'm gonna pick a guy from my alma Maters

942
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: Nemesis rival Virginia Tech, which, which by the way, I

943
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: did take an official visit to Virginia Tech.

944
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: He went to Blacksburg.

945
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: I did, which was pretty cool because I got to

946
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 4: meet Bruce Smith when he was still at Virginia Attack.

947
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: That's how long ago this was.

948
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: It was and was expected to be the number one

949
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: overall draft pick, which he was eventually, but the running

950
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: back out of Virginia Tech ba shul touting. I mean

951
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 4: to me, I want to see tooting because the speed

952
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: that he has is real, and when you're talking about

953
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: having a mini camp, which is essentially an underwear I

954
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 4: just want to feel his speed because the big guys

955
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: in the physicality you're not going to feel in a

956
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: rookie mini camp. But I want to feel his speed

957
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: because watching him on film, you can see it and

958
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: you can believe it, but I want to see it

959
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: in person and feel it in person.

960
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Jacks drafted two offensive linemen, but in this setting, it's

961
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: probably gonna be tough to see much until training camp.

962
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: Really preseason games is when you're gonna see.

963
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's kind of my point, you know, and

964
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: it's the It's not the underwear Olympics because that's the combine,

965
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: but you know, it's still kind of the underwear camp.

966
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: Duckwalking going to see for you know what I mean,

967
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: it's it's it's crucial, you know, but like not that

968
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: entertaining to that to the untrained EyeT, but.

969
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: But I'm looking forward to seeing those two guys just

970
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: how they look physically, right, you know, because walk off

971
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: the bus, let's see what they Yeah, that's the whole thing.

972
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: To want to see what they look like when they

973
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: come off the bus. I totally want to see that,

974
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: you know. And the guy from from Southern cal I

975
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: think he's got a chance to develop and get bigger

976
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: and stronger and grow up even more and then have

977
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 4: a chance at being a legitimate starting caliber center. And

978
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: the kid mile Us out of West Virginia, by god, I.

979
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: Had to throw that in there.

980
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: Because that was kind of a running joke at University

981
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: of Virginia and West Virginia. We used to have a

982
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: kind of a game every year with those guys, and

983
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 4: they had an offensive line the way back when that

984
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: was along the lines of his name was Wosnyack, and

985
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: Virginia had Jim Dombrowski. West Virginia had Wosneak. And both

986
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 4: of them are going to be these first round picks,

987
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 4: which they eventually were. And so I want to see

988
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: this Miless guy because I mean, looking at him on film,

989
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: he's a big dude. Big dude played left tackle last year.

990
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: I don't I want to see where they're gonna line

991
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: him up. Yeah, you know, not not so much to

992
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: see them physically in a practice, but I want to

993
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 4: see where they line him up in practice.

994
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: Saturday open to the public, but you got a register

995
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Jaguars dot com. There is a banner at the top

996
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: of the main page that'll take you where you need

997
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: to go to sign up for free tickets, and that

998
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: should be a packed house.

999
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: Did you sign up?

1000
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: I did? Okay, I'll be there. Did you you're going,

1001
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going.

1002
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: Tomorrow is not open to correct That's what I didn't

1003
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: ask you about tomorrow.

1004
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: That's about Saturday. You got a show to do in

1005
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: the morning and then Saturday. Yeah.

1006
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll come right from the outdoor show right to

1007
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: the practice. The practice is like one. No, I know,

1008
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 4: I know that, but little time. I'm twitter my thumbs

1009
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: for a couple hours. But I'll come here and hang.

1010
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: Probably I'll come here and hang out with you. That's

1011
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: just what I want. My breakfast.

1012
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a great You probably gonn have a

1013
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: sub you'll stop with the way that's what you do,

1014
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: that's normally on the way home.

1015
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: JP. Any chance that we can talk them into getting

1016
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: like a bus, actually pull on the field so we

1017
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: can actually see them getting off the bus, because that's

1018
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 2: that's a big thing, right you want to see it's

1019
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: an intimidation fact exactly. So let's pull that bus on

1020
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: the practice field. That's let him get off it. Let's

1021
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: see what we got to work with, like that top

1022
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: of the hill, let him run down the hill. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1023
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: But I like the off the bus thing. I think

1024
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: we can sell that. It's a sponship opportunity right there.

1025
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: You got the money off. It's going to be mad

1026
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: now I'm making money over here and not the other

1027
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: show now.

1028
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: Can come any time you want announced each one, you know,

1029
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: coming off the bus and Travis gosh, she comes off

1030
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: to dancing, you know, like you did?

1031
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: You know, can you dance like that? J? I can dance,

1032
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: but not like that. Do you think Travis Hunter is

1033
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: going to have some sort of like when it's the

1034
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: first day of like regular training camp, will he show

1035
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: up in some crazy way? Because I feel like he's

1036
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: but I feel like we're talking about those Twitter numbers

1037
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: up a little bit, or the stream numbers there.

1038
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: I don't I don't see him. I think he's more

1039
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: of a organic generate, the numbers kind of guy.

1040
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: Does he have to Brinks truck or anything like that.

1041
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: He's not going to be the Jalen Ramsey coming with.

1042
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: The Maybe if he's a little more established, maybe he

1043
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: brings the boat to the new marina or something else.

1044
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1045
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: He actually was trying. I actually tried and inquired about

1046
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: that back in the day. Could I bring the boat

1047
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: to come to work and park over there and then

1048
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: walk across the parking.

1049
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: They no, why there was no.

1050
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: They didn't have any marina over there at the years,

1051
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: you know, because the only thing that was there I

1052
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: think was the Jacksonville Fire and Rescue dogs that back

1053
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: then there was. They didn't have anything built over there.

1054
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: But I was trying, like, heck, find a way to

1055
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: take my boat from my house down at my old

1056
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: place and then take it down town across a lot

1057
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: to go to work.

1058
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: We'll see you Austin in what two weeks you'll see

1059
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: when I see it? Yeah, yeah, I think two weeks

1060
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: if you're coming Saturday or no. Sun's Son's got a

1061
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: play a little championship.

1062
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: He let's go flyers. We'll see you two weeks. That's

1063
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 2: Austin Lane Logs.

1064
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: We'll see you when I see You'll see you in

1065
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: a couple of days.

1066
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Jeff Logerman. I'm J. P.

1067
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: Shaddicker. Thanks to Britt Reeber and Joe Fortunadowa. Thanks to

1068
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: you for listening and watching. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.