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Speaker 1: I mean, is he going to be a mobile quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Though that's the other part to this. We'll have to see.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, but even through the air, Cleveland secondary

431
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Speaker 1: has had this all sorts of issues. You're Bill Pepper's.

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Speaker 1: Pepper's is a great athlete, but I don't think they've

433
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Speaker 1: quite figured out how to use him in that. They're

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Speaker 1: an easy defense to prepare for. I think there is

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Speaker 1: a next gen stats that you know, they blitzed I

436
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Speaker 1: think the least of any I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: that's the next gen stat Does that count? You know,

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Speaker 1: there the next gen stats rights holders might come after

439
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: me for that. Enough blitzing really counts. But they don't

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Speaker 1: blitz much. Yeah, most of their stats are about going

441
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Speaker 1: on that. No, that's being disrespectful. I'm sorry they I

442
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Speaker 1: think they blitzed less than any team in the entire

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Speaker 1: Cleveland NFL Cleveland. So, but they're an easy team to

444
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Speaker 1: prepare for, and you would think this is a week Mariota.

445
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Speaker 1: I really doubt he's gonna be able to run at all,

446
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Speaker 1: based on what we saw the other night, and he

447
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Speaker 1: showed that maybe doesn't really need to. Yeah, it doesn't.

448
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the only the only bright spot if you

449
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Speaker 1: want to talk about pastors. Miles Garrett over two games

450
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Speaker 1: has absolutely looked like the real deal. But you get

451
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Speaker 1: this week, you have Taylor Lawan Jack Conklin. It's a

452
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Speaker 1: tough offensive line to I would consider benching DeMarco Murray

453
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: for this game. He has not looked right the entire season.

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Speaker 1: You gotta buy coming up, You're facing the Browns. You've

455
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: got a great back up in Derrick Henry. Why not

456
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Speaker 1: just sit him? And I'm also saying, before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here, this is a game that the Browns

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Speaker 1: could win. You get Kaiser on the We haven't even

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Speaker 1: mentioned Sean Kaiser starting this game. He's back in the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup. The Titans are one of the worst pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses. Kaiser has not had time.

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Speaker 1: If ever, there's a game where he has some time

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball. This is it. You're facing a

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Speaker 1: limited quarterback. I'm just saying the Titans are the question.

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Speaker 1: But yes, a little too much brown stock. Alright, well

466
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Speaker 1: win a game and then sorry, I just you know,

467
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Speaker 1: I think I came with a little too strong last week.

468
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Speaker 1: But and Greg, you set it downstairs last a little

469
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Speaker 1: annoyed by how bad the Browns are. I believe me,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Let's move on the New Orleans Saints. Uh,

471
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Speaker 1: now hit the road riding a three game winning streak

472
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Speaker 1: and face the Green Bay Packers. You want to talk

473
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Speaker 1: about good timing the Packers Without Aaron Rodgers, you couldn't

474
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Speaker 1: be in a better situation. Uh if you were the

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Speaker 1: Saints and Sean Payton and the Saints defense that is

476
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Speaker 1: riding high all of a sudden and Drew Brees is

477
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Speaker 1: just as good as ever. And it goes back to

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Speaker 1: that old thing with the Saints. If you just have

479
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Speaker 1: an okay defense and Drew Brees, you're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: But there's been the defense has been better than okay,

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Speaker 1: Greg the last three weeks, last few weeks they have

482
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Speaker 1: been I mean they have. It's only six weeks, so

483
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Speaker 1: I we get a little ahead of this, but so

484
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Speaker 1: far through six weeks, Cam Jordan's would be in my

485
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Speaker 1: top five or so for defensive players of the year.

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore, I think it reminds me a different sort

487
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Speaker 1: of cornerback. But like Jalen Ramsey, a rookie cornerback who

488
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Speaker 1: is coming out and making an instant impact where you think, wow,

489
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Speaker 1: this guy could be an elite top five guy for

490
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Speaker 1: a long time. I hope we're not getting ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got an offense which reminds me a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the Cowboys U in the year that

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Speaker 1: they controlled the ball so well with Tony Romo and

494
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Speaker 1: last year Drew Brees is not lading up this year.

495
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Speaker 1: It's kind of a ball control. Let's keep short passing,

496
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Speaker 1: let's run the ball, let's possess it, keep our defense

497
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Speaker 1: off the field. Maybe the defense can make some big plays.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice little recipe they got going. Yeah, and

499
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Speaker 1: at their defense extends to watching that game against the Lions,

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Speaker 1: guys like Alex Okaffer, Craig Robertson. They are aggressive, they're

501
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Speaker 1: stopping the run. They made life absolutely miserable for Matthew

502
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Speaker 1: Stafford and I just I can't remember the last time

503
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Speaker 1: I would go watch a Saints game and it's the defense.

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Speaker 1: You come away thinking, this is why they have a

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Speaker 1: real chance in the NFC. If you look at their

506
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Speaker 1: numbers through two weeks, they were last or next the

507
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Speaker 1: last in almost every relevant UH statistical measure for defense,

508
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Speaker 1: and now they're basically in the top five in the

509
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Speaker 1: last three weeks, and again very small sample size, but

510
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: and and the schedules kind of played to their their liking,

511
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Speaker 1: and even this game is gonna play into their hands

512
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Speaker 1: unless Hunley breaks out and we should get to Huntley.

513
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Speaker 1: But the Saints, there's reason to be a little bit

514
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Speaker 1: excited and wide open NFC. It made a huge difference

515
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: by the way that they got left tackle to our

516
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Speaker 1: armstead back last week. That is an all Pro and

517
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Speaker 1: it suddenly kind of stabilized the whole team. We are

518
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Speaker 1: what are we thinking about Hunley in his first start?

519
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Speaker 1: Do we think he can do something here? Well? I

520
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: want to wipe away kind of everything that we saw

521
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Speaker 1: last week because a week of preparation and practice could help.

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Speaker 1: I actually think Hunley is going to be serviceable, I

523
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Speaker 1: really do. The one thing that I see a difference,

524
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Speaker 1: such a drop off from Aaron Rodgers was last week

525
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Speaker 1: there were a couple of sacks and hits he took

526
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Speaker 1: where it just never would have happened Eric Honley. It

527
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Speaker 1: never would have happened Aaron Rodgers. His ability to kind

528
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Speaker 1: of see behind him and to extend plays Hunley, you

529
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Speaker 1: just it takes a while, if if ever, and they

530
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Speaker 1: kind of see that way through the kitchen sink a

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Speaker 1: him Mike Zimmer and I would expect Dennis Owen and

532
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: the Saints to do the same in terms of just

533
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: really shown him a lot of crazy pressures. But he

534
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: made a few nice passes and we always here. And

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this to Ted Thompson, great general manage,

536
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Speaker 1: a great eye for town, nice dry It's kind of

537
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Speaker 1: like Apovich type, right, common yea common answer, you know,

538
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Speaker 1: when you say, like, who are three guys in the

539
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Speaker 1: world I'd want to have dinner with? Ted Thompson comes

540
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: up quite a bit. Zack Morris, Right, that's the body

541
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Speaker 1: that's a weird con continues to uh to creep us

542
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Speaker 1: out just just a little bit. Dan, Yeah, because in

543
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Speaker 1: the way it's kind of saying I want to return.

544
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Speaker 1: This is, of course, is if you haven't listened, Dan,

545
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Speaker 1: if you could choose anybody in the world would want

546
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Speaker 1: high school version of Zack Morris. Well, let's clarify. September October,

547
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Speaker 1: Mark Paul Gospel, who played before. When I'm like saying, like,

548
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Speaker 1: I want to return to my high school days too,

549
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Speaker 1: I don't know, so well, then you would be in

550
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Speaker 1: a largely successful acid rock group. Then you'd be wearing

551
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: black makeup and and long hair, and it would be

552
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: a different time for you. Again, it would be it

553
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Speaker 1: would be a different time by everyone getting on me

554
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: about the underage aspect of it, which he's not. He's

555
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: definitely legal, Zach Morris. At that stage, Connie Fox says

556
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: Jazz and I looked it up Jasmine from that Disney

557
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: movie fifteen years old, so, you know, throwing it out

558
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: there and she can't defend herself. I think that's fair.

559
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: She does not get off Scott Free. She in fact

560
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: has gone somewhere even darker than you. You know who

561
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: doesn't get up Scott Free. I forgot what I what

562
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: let us into this. We hear a lot about Ted Thompson.

563
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: We hear a lot this point completely necessary, it's totally necessary.

564
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: We hear a lot of Mike McCarthy and offensive mine.

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00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's see it. This is a test

566
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Speaker 1: that like, let's see the other players that Ted Thompson

567
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: has brought into this organization, Kenny Clark and Mike Danielson.

568
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Everyone on this team needs to step up. If Mike

569
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Speaker 1: McCarthy is a great offensive mine. Make it work with

570
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: Brett Hunley that that would prove, that would prove their

571
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Speaker 1: bona fide. Who do you got in this game? Mark?

572
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm just curious. It's a tough one.

573
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go New Orleans come back when no. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I did uh throw out a theory before

575
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: we move on to the next game. I'll just throw

576
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: hits her up. QB hits are up in the last

577
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: ten years, it's been steadily rising. It's the worst possible

578
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: situation for the NFL. I throw out a theory. Tell

579
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: me how crazy this is? What if you brought I'm

580
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: being serious, the red jersey, non contact jersey into real

581
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: games for quarterbacks. But you have to figure out you

582
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: have to hit one of these qualifiers. Okay, you win

583
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: an m v P red jersey, have you earned multiple

584
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: All Pro selections? You get a jersey. Have at least

585
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: twelve years of NFL experienced time, get a red jersey.

586
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: Protect those vital natural resources in the league. Well, if

587
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: you have to earn it, that's a very interesting idea.

588
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: But if you a it's it completely destroys competitive balance.

589
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: But if you're someone who's tired of seeing Tom Brady

590
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: thrive for a million years and you in the same

591
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: two or three teams with these top tier quarterbacks. It's

592
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: just going to extend that annoyance. Yeah, but it pays

593
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: the bills, It keeps us employed. But quarterbacks keep the

594
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: lights on. But how do you how do you develop?

595
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: You know, younger stars if they're kind of have a

596
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: bigger target on their back. I mean I don't have

597
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: a bigger target. They're just vulnerable to me that I

598
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, you know, Carson Wentz. Those

599
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: guys are just as valuable. R Will Wilson has a

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Speaker 1: red contact jersey. He's got a Super Bowl Okay, I

601
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: think it's in general, just get it. You have to

602
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: earn it. That adds the kind of level to it.

603
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: It makes a guy even more valuable. How about this

604
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Speaker 1: adding to that one more full the worst team in

605
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: the league each year, the entire offense, where's a red

606
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: contecture or they wear no pads, they get punished. It

607
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: adds a little, It adds a little too much importance

608
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: into the m v P and All Pro voting. Where

609
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: that's Bobby Wagner gets an m v P vote, give

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Speaker 1: me a break. Okay, let's move on. The Jacksonville Jaguars

611
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: are three and three. Uh. They could not take care

612
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: of business last week against the Rams, and now they

613
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Speaker 1: travel to face the cults and uh, bad bad news

614
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: for the Colts. Jake Brisket has done a nice job

615
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: on balance with that team, um, especially considering when it

616
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: came into the program right before the season began. He's

617
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: done a nice job overall. But Andrew Luck got shut

618
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Speaker 1: down in his um throwing and basically his ramping up

619
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: his activity to try to make a comeback. And now

620
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: we're in a situation here, guys where we don't know

621
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Speaker 1: if we're going to see Andrew Luck at all. Feels

622
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: like a very real possibility now that Andrew Luck season

623
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: is over right, Yeah, and and I would say this,

624
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: I think if anything, if there's any sort of residue

625
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: off of the Jacoby Brissette's success, is that they're I

626
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: don't know, is this a super Bowl team? There's no.

627
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: You don't have to rush to bring Andrew Luck back.

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00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I I really know not. In I

629
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Speaker 1: question if he will even play this shop they keeps it. No, No,

630
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: of course, I'll be playing. Of course he'll you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not putting him on I R. I mean, we're

632
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: getting closer to that being a reality. I I originally

633
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: wrote down on this game, it's kind of like the

634
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Speaker 1: does Andrew Luck Matter Bowl, because they're running out of

635
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: games that I think they have a good chance to

636
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: win there in since next week there and here this

637
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: is a home game, it's a division opponent, Like each

638
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: one of these wins gives a chance for Andrew Luck

639
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: to matter. But now that he was shut down and

640
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: he was at least a few weeks away already, you

641
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: have to almost assume he's he's a month away. They

642
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: have a week eleven by. I think you still play

643
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: him if he's healthy enough to play and he's more

644
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: than cleared. I don't care what the record is. I

645
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: to me, it's like it's a it's a football team,

646
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: and like you you see, you're very careful. But if

647
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: he's a hundred percent ready to go, So Andrew Luck,

648
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: who is the future of the franchise. He's the face

649
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: of the franchise. He's I believe, the highest paid player

650
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: in the league, if not close. If they go into

651
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: their buy at three and seven. We're gonna bring him

652
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: out anyway for December, I think so for the this

653
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: is one of those games that Jaguar I mean, they've

654
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: they've gotten lucky. I would bring him in. I mean,

655
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not judging. I'm just like, I don't know. If

656
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: I would, I would probably say to myself, this is

657
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: already a lost year. Let's get this guy a pent

658
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: for the off season program next year. The Jaguars have

659
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: to be pumped to get this matchup up right now.

660
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean they can. Every win that they get that

661
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: they get a little more of a feeling that they matter.

662
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: They're not used to being so relevant and near five

663
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: at this stage of the season. But just watching them,

664
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: it makes me even more annoyed about the whole Blake

665
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Border's decision in the off season. It's almost like they're

666
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: winning has insulated them from criticism of what they did

667
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback. But if anything, it makes me more annoyed

668
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: because this a f C South is there for the

669
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: taking and if they had just done anything at quarterback,

670
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: this is a team that could go to the playoffs

671
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: and that would mean a lot for this franch That said,

672
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I know a few Jaguars fans and I think there

673
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: are got to be top three in the last you know,

674
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: fifteen years of just pure suffering and feeling like constantly

675
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: being ripped on. I look at this season. Every year

676
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: get a team like this that does this, they're kind

677
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: of learning how to win. They flip flop wins and losses,

678
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and when they do things well. The Jaguars do things

679
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: very well on defense to playoff defense, I think so too.

680
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something what We're gonna start to

681
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: build momentum. We're gonna get out of this just flip

682
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: flopping wins and losses, gonna win this week. You're gonna

683
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: go into your body. We can. You're gonna take it

684
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: to the Bengals two weeks now. I'm locking it up. Okay,

685
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: not fearless, but okay. I think it's an underwhelming response.

686
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: They're on the road. It's a road game that we

687
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: that listened by, a road game with a quarterback that

688
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: nobody buys. Now that you definitely you're expecting the room.

689
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: You're expecting the room. Are they gonna need to come

690
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: back to do it? No? No, let's move on. Talk

691
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: about the Arizona Cardinals and Los Angeles Rams, not an

692
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: interesting matchup because people are flying high now um about

693
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: the Cards because Adrian Peterson came to town and made

694
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: them look like a totally different unit. And so now

695
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're five. Despite as bad as

696
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: they've been. We talked about how they were the worst

697
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: two and two team in the league. They're not three

698
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: and three. They're still okay, and they they probably have

699
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: a lot more confidence now they go to face the

700
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: Rams on the road, A big, big game here, Mark four.

701
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Both teams, but especially of the Cardinals, who could build

702
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: off that game. Yeah, they're They're one of the most

703
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: intriguing teams heading into this week because their identity completely

704
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: changed last Sunday, and and the Rams are a team

705
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: that you can you can run on. I mean they

706
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: They've got absolutely taken to town by the Redskins and

707
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Jacksonville ran on the Rams. So it's a it's

708
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: if if. If the script plays as it did last

709
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: week for Arizona, it's a nice set up for them.

710
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I look at this Rams team though,

711
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's the team Bruce arians would

712
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: love to have right now. A lot of elements in

713
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: place that he would and it's it's this is the

714
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: game of the week. To me, this is fascinating. Well, London,

715
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, not finally, but it's nice to see London

716
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: get such an intriguing game. They get Adrian Peterson for

717
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: the second time this year, except this time he's coming

718
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: into the game with juice. I don't need to right,

719
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't need to see I don't need to see

720
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: more to to think that he's for real. I don't

721
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna block well for him, if the

722
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: offense is gonna be good. But he's making people miss

723
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: last week, he's showing vision. He's running people over like that.

724
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: It's not you can trust what you see. He's got

725
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: the juice, Danny, Okay, I like the juice. I like

726
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the juice squeeze in the Jets and players older than

727
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, I know how to coach all guys. I mean,

728
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: they are the they're the the oldest team in the league,

729
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: basically playing one of the youngest, the Cardinals. The Cardinals,

730
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry over the rom over Sean McVeigh that

731
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: you kind of had a senior moment there didn't this

732
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: guy in the room, I'd be a little worried if

733
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm the Rams about some of the offensive struggles the

734
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: last two weeks go away. How about both of you

735
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: leave the room. Yeah? Is it hard for you because

736
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: because West, you know, our our good buddy Chris Wesley

737
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: not here for this show. Um, you guys are closer

738
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: in age, and Dan and I are so much younger.

739
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Like does that. I spend a lot of time, Uh,

740
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: you know watching over a seven and six year old

741
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: at home, and the dynamic is no different here. I thought,

742
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna go Yeah, I got a six

743
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: and a seven year old in keeps me young man.

744
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: You know they they show aspects of maturity that the

745
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: two of you could big point. Hey, I'll tell you what.

746
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: By the way, in case people forgot the Los Angeles

747
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Rams are the team of a t L and uh

748
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: forget about the Cardinals. Everybody calmed down one game all

749
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Now they're great. I'm gonna do it.

750
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disrespect him, and I'm gonna stand by the Rams,

751
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: even though I've seen some things that I don't love

752
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: about Jared Goffe the last couple of weeks. I love

753
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: that the defense again, uh balled out and took over

754
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: that game last week. And that's why, gentlemen, you gotta

755
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: get behind the team of a t L. I am

756
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: looking at up lock up them Rams a vaguely respectful

757
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: move by you. Aaron Donald has been an absolute nightmare

758
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks. I mean, just playing at

759
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: at a level as well as he has ever played.

760
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: And I think they need to win games in that

761
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: that different sort of way. They've only scored twenty three

762
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: points on offense last two weeks. In other word, skip

763
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: training camp. Whether you are in the league or cover

764
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: the league, you know what, I trust, son of bum

765
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: to scheme something up to confuse old man Palmer and

766
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: have Adrian Peterson running into the line over and over again.

767
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Like a little concerned about Sammy Watkins at this point,

768
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: I like I'm starting to wonder does he get a

769
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: long term contract there? Like he is their third receiver

770
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: right now behind Woods and cup Let's move on a

771
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: f C East rematch. Only week seven, but the Jets

772
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: and Dolphins are closing out their home and home. The Jets,

773
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of course, back in Week three, dominated Dolphins. It was

774
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: twenty nothing until the last play of the game, a

775
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: twenty six Jet win that put them on a three

776
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: game winning streak, got them going toward that. But now

777
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: they're coming off a loss of tough loss of the Patriots.

778
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: They got jobbed by the NFL rule book. Let's be honest.

779
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. They probably would have lost the game anyway. Also,

780
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: but whatever, Moving on the Dolphins on the other side

781
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: of the ball, Uh, feeling great. They've got to be

782
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: feeling great, um Mark because excuse me, Greg, because what

783
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: you have here is a team that was dead in

784
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: the water against the defending NFC champions on the road

785
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: and then they scored twenty straight points and win. What

786
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: a bizarre game that was. They have to have real

787
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: confidence when they're close late in games. They're close to

788
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: setting the all time NFL record for winning one score

789
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: games without losing one. I mean, and most levels that

790
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: it just feels flukey, but it's what got them to

791
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. And I'm not saying their offense

792
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be great, but if their offense can just

793
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: going into the year, wouldn't have been crazy to think

794
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: they're the twentie best offense in the league. They have

795
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: been so bad, so you know, with the Browns or

796
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: any other team as one of the worst that if

797
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: they could just get respectable, which they were for a half,

798
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't much to go off, then they could have

799
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: a good team because the defense is playing so well. Yeah,

800
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I think of Keith Hans as your dad who grew

801
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: up you know you were This is about the time

802
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: you probably were stepping into your Jets fandom. But these

803
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: old Jets Dolphins matchups would grace the cover of s

804
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: I every time they have because they'd be these sort

805
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: of fifty to forty four overtime shootouts with Dan Marino

806
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: and Kenny O'Brien. What a totally different pair of teams.

807
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: And Miami's defense is absolutely legitimately for real. And I

808
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: think when you talk about their offense, Greg, like last

809
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: week Jag I plugged back in and was an anchoring

810
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: for someone that could count on. They It is so

811
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: critical that that happens for they have any shot to

812
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: score points. I definitely worry about a big j GI game, uh,

813
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: in this matchup on the road. I think the Jets

814
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: that are really nice job bottling up a GI the

815
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: first time, and Jay Cutler looked about forty five years

816
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: old in that game. I can't The Dolphins are hard

817
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: team to make sense of because they were so bad

818
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: in the first half of that game, and I think

819
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the um I don't want to take

820
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: anything away from that comeback victory, but the Falcons just

821
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: fell on their face also in that second half, just

822
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: did everything wrong, whether it was turnovers or very similar

823
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, yeah, fumbles. It was just it

824
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: was clear like they just were in their own heads.

825
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: But lot to do with Miami though. Sure, no, that's

826
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Hey, hey, Dolphins, respect, but I'm saying

827
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the Falcons did their Falcons thing again. So I'm not

828
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: sure if I believe the Dolphins of the real deal.

829
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: So that's why I think. I think the Jets are

830
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: going to go in there and get a win. You

831
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: in handsome hand, Kevin wags on this, No wagers, but

832
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: I am in the kind of a war with his

833
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: seven year old son. Yeah, so we're gonna we'll go

834
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: back and forth. Well on in the NFL Pick Him Show,

835
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: which everyone should check out on Saturday three different times.

836
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I believe go go for six, two and eleven Eastern.

837
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I believe that you can figure it out. Dave Damn

838
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: a check showed the disrespect to the Jets by picking

839
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: the Dolphins as his survivor pick. Just to me was

840
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: completely bizarre because this Dolphins team is not trustworthy in

841
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: that way, and you gotta give a little love to

842
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: old John Morton. I think John Morton's name has ever

843
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: been mentioned on American media yet outside in New York,

844
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: where you better clarify who he is. I'll tell you

845
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: who he is. He's the offensive coordinator of a team

846
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: that's getting Josh McCown to make some plays and has

847
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: turned Austin Safari and Jenkins into it. Must start right

848
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: now in fantasy leagues. Lead in the NFL among tight

849
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: ends and receptions since he's been back. He's a pretty

850
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: good playmaker, like they are no Ka offense. He was

851
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: doing a nice little job. I mean, this podcast, to

852
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: your point, was always eyes wide open towards John Morton.

853
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: Every every show we talked about him. Uh yeah. I

854
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: think the Jets, if they could have run the ball

855
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, would have won that game. So if

856
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: the Dolphins can shut down the running game the way

857
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots did, Josh mccount could be exposed. We'll see

858
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: if they can do it. Hard to figure out the Dolphins.

859
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: All right? Moving on? Oh who do you? Who do

860
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: you got in the game? Mark in that game? I

861
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: will take the Dolphins. Do you think they'll need to

862
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: come back to do it? I think they will come back.

863
00:42:52,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: Curls excess come bas Colonels Mark excess come Colonels with

864
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: barks come back. Colonels with bars come back, colonels with

865
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: bars sss come back, colonels with barccess come back. It

866
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: could have been twenty seconds, potentially shorter, but you know,

867
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: if you make it as long as you can, very

868
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: like they might be giants. Vibe there. It was truly

869
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: a colonel. All I said was yes, there was literally

870
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: no one else's attached to it, and big Popcorn, I

871
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: know you're out there listening that is currently unattached in

872
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: terms of a sponsorship. That's where're right now. We're just

873
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: having to create our own hits. I like them. Moving on,

874
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are three and three. Just lost to

875
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: the Bears for Christ's sake. Now they traveled to Minnesota

876
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: to face the Vikings. Of Vikings team that is gotta

877
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: be all sorts of pumped up because now they look

878
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: at the NFC NFC North Greg and they say, we

879
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: can win this damn thing. They should have their rights

880
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: far in this NFC. Why not, why not have some

881
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: home playoff games? Why not have a little bit of fun.

882
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: They could be the best defense in the league. Pro

883
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Football Focus has them ranked as the best defense in

884
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: the league. And they're doing it kind of in an

885
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: old school way with continuity, not a lot of substitutions,

886
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: not a lot of things that are gonna trick you.

887
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: Of their eleven starters, all eleven have been with the

888
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: team for at least three years, which is outrageous. They

889
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: run the same two personnel groups for nine six percent

890
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: of their play so guys aren't coming on and off

891
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: the field. It's just the same eleven guys. And you

892
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: have just guys being able to play fast right now.

893
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhads one of the best cornerbacks in the league,

894
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, one of the best safety is Everson Griffin,

895
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive ends. You've got different makers

896
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: at every level, and then you're facing a team like

897
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens and you kind of think it's game over.

898
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Like when the Ravens face a halfway decent defense, it's

899
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: game over because unlike some of the bad offenses that

900
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: has young players, they're old and depressant watch and they

901
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: can't score on anyone. The Ravens are they're poorly built

902
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: on right now, they're not any fun, and Joe Flacco

903
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: is quietly having a disastrous season. And on the Vikings.

904
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: To your point on defense, I love when you're Mike Zimmer.

905
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: You're the old school defensive backs coach, defensive coordinator, when

906
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the identity of your team matches the talents of your

907
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: head coach and why they hired him, and they truly do.

908
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: But I also like this offense, which last year was

909
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: impossible to watch. Adam Feeling is such a really reliable

910
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: emerging wide receiver. And beyond emerging, he's obviously he's He's

911
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: basically like a star player at this point, and we

912
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: were just sort of discovering him last season. They were

913
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: fine last week without Stefon Diggs for the most part.

914
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: I think they missed him. They they were gonna miss him,

915
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: but they got by. And Jerick McKinnon, who I did

916
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: not think was an impressive player before this season, I

917
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: think he's done a nice job stepping in for Dalvin Cook.

918
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: He can catch the ball, he's fast. They They've got

919
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot going on on offense. Even with case keen

920
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: and was starting. Who's gonna play the s week? It

921
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: sounds like, can you imagine if Dalvin Cook was still

922
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: on this team, you you would really I mean, I'm

923
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: not saying now they can't make a deep run in

924
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs or make the playoffs, but you get really

925
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: excited about him. And I like also the idea of

926
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: and I know case Keendom has done a nice jop.

927
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: What gets me excited about a potential like special Viking

928
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: season is if Teddy Bridgewater gets his shot and does

929
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: some things and ends up being the guy that takes

930
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: this team in the playoffs, then then you have a

931
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: whole narrative, set up, an amazing comeback story, and you

932
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: got the super Bowl in Minneapolis. That would be a

933
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I've seen, so it's very possible. We've

934
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: seen Stefan Dick is one of the best receivers in

935
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the league. He didn't practice on Thursday. This offense was

936
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: I thought more limited last week. Keenum did not have

937
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: a great game overall, And if to me it's a

938
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: coin flip game, I give Minnesota an edge because it's

939
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. If the Ravens defense is is it all

940
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: special or that's kind of their identity. Go win a

941
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: game against case Keenum, against a team that's missing their

942
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: number one receiver and their number one running back. Go

943
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: in a game Ravens defense, I have that. I could

944
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: also see Minnesota hammering Baltimore in this game. I have

945
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a sessler here. I've been waiting for

946
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: my Justin Tucker wins a game by himself game and

947
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: he's been very quiet and has been his fault. The

948
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: offense has been brutal. Had a nice little game last

949
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: week in his first fifty yard or I think he's

950
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: got a couple in him this week, and it might

951
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: not take a lot of points to win this game.

952
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: Come on, Justin, do it for me. Let's move on.

953
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Here's what was the best best rivalry of the nineteen nineties?

954
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: Uh now we not not the best rivalry of the

955
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: What is this? Well, they don't meet in the playoffs

956
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: like the teens. They probably only meet every three years period. Well,

957
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: they used to every year in the regular season too.

958
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: In the old days, it would be it was like

959
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: the NFC title Dallas in San Francisco every year, thousand tens.

960
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: I could call it the tens the TENSA. I do

961
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: like odds. I like that odds caught on kind of

962
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: big on the odds anyway, you don't even know they're

963
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: ninety years to wait to get back into that frame

964
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: of mind. Well, I enjoyed it, and I've enjoyed looking

965
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: back on it using that word. The Cowboys are two

966
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: and three coming out of there by, and the big

967
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: news around the Cowboys the continual continued legal wrangling UH

968
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: involving Zeke Elliott in his six game suspension. UM it

969
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: is now once again it's been put back on hold

970
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: UH this week at flip Flop over the last two

971
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: weeks where the the suspicion suspension got put back into

972
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: play and everyone started turning their attention to who's gonna

973
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: be Alfred Morris, Darren McFadden, blah blah blah. But now

974
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: he's back in the lineup. I can't even begin to

975
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: snow or try to figure out. I don't even really

976
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: want to when the when will be the next shoot

977
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: to drop with us. But for the time being, Zeke's

978
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: back in the lineup, and that's big UH for the Cowboys,

979
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: who need a win against the windless Niners. It sounds

980
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: like he's safe for two more weeks, although there's been

981
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: a report that a potential settlement could happen, so who knows.

982
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: It's very which makes sense because I get a certain point.

983
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys really have aspirations about winning a Super Bowl,

984
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: they have to be careful to not let this thing

985
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: back into the back end of the season, and potentially, well,

986
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: right if it's if it happens after he plays two

987
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: more games and knocks him out for six weeks, that

988
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: takes him into the middle of December. So so you'd

989
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: be in trouble. I mean, this is a game they

990
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: should be able to win with anyone at running back.

991
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: They can't blow this. And what was a little lost

992
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: in their two game losing steak before the break was

993
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: their offense was back. It was all the way back.

994
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they scored practically every possession against against the

995
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Packers and the Rams, they scored over thirty points in

996
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: both of those games. They controlled the ball. You know,

997
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: it was a little different, more improvisational stuff from Dak Prescott,

998
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: but the the offense look great before they went on

999
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: thereby Yeah, and the Fortys have been sort of one

1000
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: of these anomalies with these super close games. I mean,

1001
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: it's no other team in the NFL, and I believe

1002
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: the history of NFL has done what they've done with

1003
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: these little two point losses and stuff week after week.

1004
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Maybe this is where that all comes crashing down. I

1005
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: will say, I think I thought c J. Batard, you

1006
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: know the idea, you have to go in fresh and

1007
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: play an NFL game off the bench and do what

1008
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: he did. Showed much more chemistry than Hoyer did at

1009
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of that game. I thought that guys like

1010
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson Aldrick Robinson kind of came to life when

1011
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: he came in there. I don't know ultimately, once you

1012
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: get a tape on him, what we're gonna have. But

1013
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: not a bad not a bad player. From what I saw,

1014
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: it seems like a poor man's Hoyer or cut after

1015
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: wyer Man's Hoyer is is not a good scenario. I mean,

1016
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: if c J. Beathard has Brian Hoyer's career, makes the

1017
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: same amount of money, starts the same amount of games,

1018
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: I think that would be a big win for c. J. Beathard.

1019
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: I was I would just stick with him that, so

1020
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: I there's I like it. They're clearly going to go

1021
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: out in front another quarterback, but maybe this is your

1022
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: longest this is an easy matchup for him. But I

1023
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: was not that impressed. I mean, he's a rookie quarterback.

1024
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: What do you expect. He was very lucky not to

1025
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: have a couple of interceptions. And this defense, which we

1026
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: were kind of excited about, really doesn't have much juice

1027
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: right now. They lost Rick Armstead not for the season,

1028
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: which is a big loss. And um, Cowboys, if you're

1029
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: worth a dem go win this game. I don't want

1030
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: to hear anything, and I don't want to two point

1031
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: win and give the Niners more misery. They've lost their

1032
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: last five games at thirteen point combined. Go go in

1033
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: there and win by a couple of scores and get

1034
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: back to fives back. So that's big for them. All right,

1035
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: let's move on. The Denver Broncos are coming off um

1036
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: a sit down be humble lost to New York Giants

1037
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday night where they just look dreadful, uh and

1038
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: every facet of the game. And now they're gonna try

1039
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: to get back on track with a trip here to

1040
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to face the Chargers, who have finally figured

1041
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: out how to start winning uh some close games. Greg Rosenthal, Um,

1042
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: any concerns now about let's start with Team Trev, Greg,

1043
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: because you are the conductor here. You're shoveling the colon.

1044
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 1: Any concerns about Team trev, Let's start here. He's gonna

1045
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: go through ups and downs. He's definitely been erratic with

1046
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: his decisions. He didn't seem very act. He wasn't accurate

1047
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: last week, and he just seemed a little scrambled. Maybe

1048
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it was what the Giants were showing him defensively. I

1049
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: don't think you should have those sort of problems this week.

1050
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: But they're a limited offense and that I don't really

1051
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: trust them to pass protect, and they're not deep at

1052
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And you lose Emmanuel Sanders for this game.

1053
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: That's a that's a huge loss because it's just you're

1054
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: going to Benny Fowler and receivers that you really don't

1055
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: trust that much. So they got to be able to

1056
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: run the ball in this game. I mean, Joey Bosa,

1057
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: he's back all the way, he looked great last week.

1058
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: And Trevor Simmons is not the same guy when he's pressured.

1059
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that's where the mistakes start to come.

1060
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: And so I you can you can run on San Diego,

1061
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, Los Angeles, if you're, if you're, if you're

1062
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: any opponent, basically week after week, But which C J.

1063
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: Anderson are we gonna get? I feel like it's a

1064
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: it's a week tweek proposition with him. This is and

1065
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: even though the Charges have won these last two games

1066
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: and they've showed a little bit of rhythm on offense,

1067
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I went away from those two

1068
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: games thinking like, oh, this is the Chargers team I

1069
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: expected to see, Like you, yeah, you're seeing Hunter Henry's

1070
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: finally get into mix. Hunter Henry is so unbelievably good.

1071
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: He needs to, I think, be a focal point of

1072
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: this offense. What took them so long? Though? That's a

1073
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: that's weird coaching in my book. His I mean, his

1074
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: boss skills and just his movement are incredible. But Mike Williams,

1075
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: their number one draft pick was back keenan out. They

1076
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: still have the pieces on paper. Dan, it's not over

1077
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: for this Chargers theme. I know you're you're always gonna

1078
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: say that because you love Phil rivers. Um. First thing,

1079
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: I want to see this team's oh and three at home,

1080
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: and you figure, oh, they're due to get a home

1081
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: win and this would be a really nice win. But

1082
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: this place is going to be filled with Broncos fan.

1083
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a coincidence they started winning

1084
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: on the road. I think it's a tough spot. And

1085
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: so I kind of like the I kind of like

1086
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers in this game. Um, maybe it's just because

1087
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: how bad the Broncos looked on Sunday, But um, at

1088
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: the same time, I wonder if it plays head games

1089
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: with them, when that crowd is gonna be roaring and

1090
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be wearing orange in the stands, how does

1091
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: it not affect me? What is the nature of home,

1092
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: of playing in your own stadium. Everything that's happening to

1093
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: them is against the nature of that, And I want

1094
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: to see what the Broncos defense. I mean, the most

1095
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: shocking aspect of that Broncos loss was the fact that

1096
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Orleans dark wa is running all over them, Wayne Gallman's

1097
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: running all over them. So they were the best run

1098
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: defense in the league before, you know, getting gash of

1099
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: the Giants, which is shocking. Now you face Melvin Gordon,

1100
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: who's kind of getting getting it going. I mean, old

1101
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: spice Rack was apologizing for his Melvin Gordon take a

1102
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I'm like, give it time. This guy

1103
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: six in the league and yards from scrimmage. Well and

1104
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: one lass again. We spent six months telling everyone the

1105
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: a f C West is by far the best division

1106
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: in football, nothing close. The Raiders are a mess. The

1107
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: Broncos are up and down. The Chargers are junk. Come on,

1108
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: it's a big game. They get back in, they win

1109
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: this game, and they're back in the mix. One last night.

1110
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: The Chargers aren't the No. One's struggling worse than the

1111
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: chart well, mother than the Browns. I guess Niners at home.

1112
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Everyone's having issues, it seems because the league as a

1113
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: whole is at home this season. I know you were

1114
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: mentioning that that the baseball playoffs were showing such a

1115
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: different trend in terms of home field advantage, But I

1116
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: saw a stat last night that two years ago, I

1117
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: think home teams in the playoffs were sixteen and eighteen.

1118
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: So I think this stuff just normal base value. Yeah,

1119
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: but that but that was your point that it was

1120
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: so different. Yeah, it would just happened that particular series.

1121
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: My Yankees are one game away from the panic. Greg.

1122
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're paying attention to that, probably not,

1123
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: but um, and I'm aware of the final scores. Evan

1124
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: been the you know watching it. The home team has

1125
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: won the first UM five games of the a LCS

1126
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: and the Yankees are six and over all at homes.

1127
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, I like the Yankees. Let's move on and

1128
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: talk about the Seattle Seahawks and the New York Giants.

1129
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: And the Seahawks are coming out of there by their

1130
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: three and two, they're kind of a hard time team

1131
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: to figure out right now, but they do have two

1132
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: straight wins going into there. But the Giants, we just

1133
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: talked about it. They finally woke up and um got

1134
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: a big win on the road in Denver. Uh is

1135
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: it gonna save their season? Mark? What do you think? Well?

1136
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: I have an announcement. Yes, I am boycotting any discussion

1137
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks Giants game. Why why? I will tell

1138
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: you why? No, Greg, because I do not respect the

1139
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: New York based franchise choosing to playfully adopt the nickname Giants.

1140
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: I get it for many using the name Giants is

1141
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: nothing more than a tag attached to various football and

1142
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: baseball teams across the country, and yet all the while

1143
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: it completely ignores the culture of ancient Samaria, which mingled

1144
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: not only with earth roaming and Anuki giant beans, but

1145
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: also cunning extraterrestrial cultures to mesh Palladian assertion and Eloheim

1146
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: deep space DNA strains with human beings, forever altering our

1147
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: genetic coding and an effect making us prisoners on Earth

1148
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: and subject to a silent, always watching big brother in

1149
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: the sky. At this point in time, we must come

1150
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: to grips with our disturbing ancient origins. Therefore, I am

1151
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: boycotting this New York First Seattle game discussion and hopes

1152
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: that listeners will comprehend our new human reality is. Is

1153
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: this what the Heating Light podcast is? I'm not discussing

1154
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: anything else during this segment. Oh oh, you're completely out

1155
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: on the segment. Okay, out, all right, we'll come back

1156
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: to you then, Greg, your thought about the Seahawks, Let's

1157
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: start with that. It's hard to pivot off of that

1158
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: because I'm wondering what happened to the last six years

1159
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: of podcast that we talked about the right, and then

1160
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: anybody who's wondering, oh, Mr Flame, he doesn't have an

1161
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: active role in the show, how will Mark go down

1162
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: those roads? Mark will find those ways. He will find

1163
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: his ways down those Dusty Rhodes. As as to answer

1164
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: your question about the Seahawks, I mean, this is a

1165
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: great matchup for them. I know, No, there's no reason

1166
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: we just talked about that to believe that the Giants

1167
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: would be able to run the ball last week. There's

1168
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: no reason that to believe that they'll be able to

1169
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: run the ball this week against Seattle. They're getting healthy,

1170
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I think on defense. But it's slipped under the radar

1171
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: a little bit that Cliff April has been out for

1172
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: multiple weeks and then he went on injured reserve with

1173
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: a neck injury. He's considering retirement. I mean, Cliff April

1174
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: might be the number one most underrated Seahawk of this

1175
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: entire run. Like he could have won a Super Bowl

1176
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: MVP that year. Uh. He him and Bennett just kind

1177
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: of to me the guts of the thists and Bennett

1178
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't feel like has been quite the same this year.

1179
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: In April's out for the year, so that that's a

1180
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: pretty big time concern. I'm a little if I'm a

1181
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, I'm a little bit nervous that I missed

1182
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: that wide open window with the Giants where they're falling

1183
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: over themselves and finding ways to lose games. Uh. And

1184
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I know they still they don't have Odell Beckham, so

1185
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: they're not a real I mean, they are missing their

1186
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: entire receiver. Still a mess. But here's here's what I'm saying.

1187
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: The defense, which has been a huge disappointment from most

1188
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: of the season, finally woke up in Denver. And if

1189
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: they have another good game. The Seahawks don't travel too well,

1190
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: especially the last couple of years. Would I be stunned

1191
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: if this game is ten seven one way or the

1192
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: other midway through the fourth quarter, not even a little bit.

1193
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: So I don't think this is an easy win for

1194
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks by any stretch. And I would not be

1195
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: surprised at all off the Giants. One know, if they

1196
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: can get Olivia Vernon back, JPP finally had a big game.

1197
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean you would expect that this is a game

1198
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is going to have to do his like

1199
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: out in a pocket crazy thing to to make some plays.

1200
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: One final thing on the Giants is just that the

1201
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: receiver's being gone is only gonna highlight Evan ingram more.

1202
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: But I didn't need the receivers to be gone to

1203
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: know that Evan ingram Is was a great pick and

1204
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good Giant for a long time.

1205
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: Seems like a home run right there. There you go. Uh,

1206
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: let's move on and now we welcome welcome Mark Sessler

1207
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: back to be around the NFL podcasts. Are doing buddy,

1208
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I thought it was a little rude

1209
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: to smoke a cigarette, you know, while we were providing out. Well,

1210
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: it was my time, it was my personal time. Let's

1211
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: now move on and talk about This is one of

1212
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: my favorite games because I always like this matchup a

1213
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: bad blood. There will be blood. I like all that stuff.

1214
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: In the Cincinnati Bungals and the Pittsburgh Steelers. They don't

1215
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: like each other, and a lot of times everybody's like, oh,

1216
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: these guys, these two teams, they don't like each other.

1217
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: These teams literally don't like each other. In fact, in

1218
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: the past few years, there's no matchup that elicits more

1219
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: personal foul penalties, roughing the passer late hits, you know,

1220
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: Mike Munschak ripping a guy, dreads out concussions, running into tunnels,

1221
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Bengals screaming at their television. Why did you do that?

1222
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis? God? What was that? Mark? Well, Marvin Lewis

1223
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: is an idiot that seems a little strong and our

1224
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: new media environment. Not sure that I want to be

1225
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: tagged to that comment, but I did say it. Anyway,

1226
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: I love this game because I really the steal the

1227
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals have a great, great opportunity here to go

1228
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh and out of nowhere, go from oh and

1229
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: three to three and three and then be if things

1230
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: break the right way, mark a half game out in

1231
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: the NFC North before Halloween despite starting oh and three.

1232
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: This is a great opportunity. It is, and I don't

1233
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get it done. I I am so

1234
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: impressed with Pittsburgh's defense, and everyone talks about Ryan Schizier

1235
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: and they should, but I don't know if he's gonna

1236
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: play because I don't think he practiced. But Vince Williams,

1237
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: their other inside linebacker, what a That is a star

1238
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: duo right there. Guys like Mike Hilton week after week

1239
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: keeps showing up on tape. They've got a lot. Finally

1240
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: they've got depth on defense, and they're punishing. You saw

1241
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: it against Kansas City, and I just don't like this

1242
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: scenario for Andy Dalton one bit. And it to me,

1243
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: it starts for them with Cam Hayward and Stefan to it.

1244
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they were an Alex Smith's face literally on

1245
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: the first snap and then on the last snap, and

1246
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: those two guys who they've paid a lot of money

1247
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: to are, to me kind of the reason this defense

1248
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: is so good that guys a little bit towards the

1249
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: end of not towards the end of their career, but

1250
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: right in their primes, are playing the very best football

1251
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: they've ever played. I also looked at what Levi on

1252
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: Bell did last week. I know he's had bigger games

1253
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: numbers wise, but I don't know if I've ever seen

1254
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: him run as beautifully as he did last week. He

1255
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: had a major run called back with the most incredible

1256
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: run of the day was called back by penalty. But

1257
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: he is entirely rounded into shape again. I don't know

1258
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: what there was some some rustiness early on. It's gone

1259
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: mart Tavis Bryant, who reportedly asked for a trade, then

1260
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: said that never happened. But either way, he has not

1261
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: been a big part of this offense, which I think

1262
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: is surprised a lot of people. Um Juju Smith Schuster,

1263
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: he gets more snaps. He's getting more snaps, and he's

1264
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: been involved with them on a weekly week basis. I'm

1265
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: looking for Big Ben to continue to kind of come

1266
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: out from that that what is he called He's got

1267
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: the old cowboys, got a couple of shingles left something

1268
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: like that. What did he say it was about that?

1269
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, he sold cowboys got a couple of shingles left.

1270
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that was a Terry Bradshaw at uh. I

1271
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: think he'll play well, as I'm gonna say, and I

1272
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: think Roethlisberger um is not done and I think he's

1273
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna play really well. I don't think Cincinnati gets this done.

1274
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Let's pick this. So I do think the Steelers will

1275
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: take care of business. I think this is a tougher

1276
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: game for them. I mean, the Bengals are ranked third

1277
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: in Football Outsiders on defense and Levy on Bell played

1278
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: played great last week. But I think Ben Roethlisberger really

1279
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: didn't do anything different than what he's done all year.

1280
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Bengals to get back in

1281
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: this division. Um. And one final note Mike Mitchell, who

1282
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: had a hit Alex Smith from behind. He intended he

1283
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: was pushed on a low hit on Alex Smith. This

1284
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: is when the going viral goes wrong. UM. I sent

1285
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: out a tweet during that game, like a slow motion

1286
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: replay that ended up being retweeted. Umtred times got six

1287
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: six thousand likes, which I would say, like, oh cool,

1288
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: way to be part of the conversation, bro, But it

1289
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: turned out I got caught in the middle of this

1290
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: like fierce war between Bengals fans and Steelers fans that

1291
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: went on to this day all week. My mentions are

1292
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: dead and then it started with everyone. I sent it

1293
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: out and I had an opinion when I put that's

1294
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: about his dirties against Mike Mitchell. Initially everyone agreed with me,

1295
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: and then the story started to evolve with Mitchell saying

1296
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: I was pushed, and then all the all the Pittsburgh

1297
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: fans started like burying me for being like a piece

1298
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: of garbage and and like you're some journalists like bro,

1299
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: I just tweeted out a video with an opinion, not

1300
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: journal work anyway, So a little lesson. He did get fined,

1301
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: by the way, the league week for you, Dan, and

1302
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: we we recognized that the league decided that he was dirty.

1303
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: So anyone anyone arguing give me a break, he's like,

1304
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: he didn't get suspended, and check out his sizzle reel

1305
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: of pastor fractions. This guy is not the cleanest player. Uh.

1306
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Sunday Night football, the rematch of

1307
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty one. Mark Sessler and the Patriots are

1308
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: the home team, and the Falcons are going into this game.

1309
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: You wonder where their heads are at after an outright

1310
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: collapse in the second half at home against the Dolphins,

1311
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: losing that game seventeen after going into the half at

1312
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing. Are the Patriots catching the Falcons at a

1313
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: moment of personal crisis? No, I mean, that's that seems

1314
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: like we're not going a little far there, But it's

1315
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: like so depressing I think for Falcons fans. Like some

1316
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematches, if you're if you're the loser and

1317
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: you're flying high the next season and you can go

1318
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: in and drop a bomb on the team that knocked

1319
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: you out in the Super Bowl, this Falcons team is

1320
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,479
Speaker 1: coming off one of the most disgusting losses seventeen nothing

1321
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins and the offense gets man handled in

1322
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: the second half. I don't know, you let Jake Cutler

1323
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: beat you. I mean, it's not a must win. That's

1324
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: a bit strong. But if they lose this game, it's

1325
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: been a really rough fourteen days. And how do you

1326
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: put last year? They say last year's behind you, but

1327
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: last year's team was defined by losing fourth quarter leads.

1328
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Super Bowl. They lost the seventeen

1329
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: point fourth quarter leads to the Chargers. They lost four

1330
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: or fourth quarter leads. They lost a halftime leave at

1331
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: home this year to the Bills. So I think they

1332
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: gotta they gotta prove themselves just to get the questions away.

1333
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: This is such a big game for them. The Patriots

1334
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: cluse this game and people will be all fired up

1335
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: in Boston about it, But ultimately, I don't know if

1336
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: it matters that much in the long run. Totally different

1337
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: for Land, and it wouldn't It wouldn't shock me if

1338
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, like I kind of put the over under

1339
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: in terms of Falcons points in this game at thirty seven,

1340
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: like I'm expecting Matt Ryan to go up and down

1341
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: the field on this team. Have we really seen that

1342
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: from the Falcons show, but we've seen it from basically

1343
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: every Patriots opponent, right, Well, that's certainly fair, um, but

1344
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: I do I do definitely put stock into you some

1345
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: of the things that are going on, probably in the

1346
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: heads of the Thousland's just because that's second half against

1347
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: the Donalds. I couldn't get over it watching that game.

1348
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: The sacks, the penalties, the special team's misc used, the

1349
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: interception to end it. I'd be a holding call to

1350
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: take you out of field, Gore. It was a lot

1351
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. It was. It was like an

1352
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: instant replay. So like, you never want to have a

1353
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: loss like that, But to have that loss and then

1354
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: the next game is it arguably the worst loss in

1355
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: NFL history, certainly the worst loss in franchise history. You

1356
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: just wonder where their headspace is at. I really really

1357
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: don't like the Patriots personally. I might have shared that

1358
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: on this podcast, but I really really think this will

1359
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: be a good Sunday night for the Throne of vis

1360
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: This is tough for you, Atlanta to you know, from

1361
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: a higher up thing. They played the Bills and Dolphins,

1362
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: two very good defenses. But now you're on the road

1363
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: three straight games, starting with New England, then the Jets,

1364
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers, then the Cowboys at home, and then Seattle

1365
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: on the road. It's a rough month for Atlanta. If

1366
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: you don't take this thing. I'm not sure what happens

1367
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: to them a months from now. Their defense needs to

1368
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: get off the field, and this is a tough you know,

1369
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: a tough offense to do it against. You know, Tom Brady,

1370
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: It's almost like we take it for granted right now.

1371
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: How well he's playing. Now that Rogers out, he's he's

1372
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the league. He's he's forty, and

1373
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: as someone who's watched all his games, I think he's

1374
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: played as well since the start of last season through

1375
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: now then he then he did at any point. I

1376
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: never quite bought into the greatest of all time arguments

1377
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: until kind of the end of his career, because his

1378
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: career is so different than anyone else's. Well, that's how

1379
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: he separated right that. The back half has been better

1380
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: than the front half. Rob Gronkowski is not as explosive

1381
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: as he used to be, doesn't get as open, but

1382
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: he's still just such a beast to deal with. He

1383
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be open and West's boy Dion Lewis.

1384
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: I think if he's a he's probably not available in

1385
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues at this point. But I think he's run

1386
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: really well and he's gonna be a big factor for

1387
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots the rest of the season. Let's pick this game.

1388
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I've already gone out and said I think the Patriots

1389
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: will win by double digits. What are your thoughts. I

1390
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: think Atlanta is gonna take this game. Really yep. I'm

1391
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: not of all the issues we just mentioned or there,

1392
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: but a little guy named Marvin Hall, I think it

1393
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: is going to have a big play. Another one I've

1394
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: never dan, but I have never picked against the Patriots

1395
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: on this podcast anywhere else. Very smart And I want

1396
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: to say one last thing, and I know Josh mcamn

1397
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: through for three yards. Last week. The Patriots had a

1398
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: bad first half. They really did put it together for

1399
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: the most part in the second half, and they were

1400
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: completely neutralized the Jets run game. The week before against

1401
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: the Bucks, well, they look good against the Bucks and defense.

1402
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you take out to six of

1403
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: their last eight quarters, I feel like the Patriots defense

1404
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: has shown signs of life. Uh so, we'll see if

1405
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: that continues. If it does, the Falcons could be in

1406
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: deep trouble. Finally, Monday Night Football, the Washington Redskins travel

1407
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia to face the Eagles. Big NFC East showdown. Greg,

1408
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: you know I love NFC East football. Runs me and

1409
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: my late grandfather, Poppy sitting on like big brown couch

1410
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: with his root beer watching the Giants, yelling at Phil Simms.

1411
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: Oh so he he his The rest of his family

1412
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: is a f C East fans. Come on, this is

1413
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: the other side of the family. I I yeah, there's

1414
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: no sense to get too deep into it. But Poppy

1415
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: loved the Giants rest in peace. He would have loved

1416
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: to watch this game because it's a slobber knocker. Yeah,

1417
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: and they played a really entertaining game in Week one.

1418
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: Like the Dolphins and Jets, they're getting their season series

1419
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: out of the way early. We're getting another game where

1420
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: John Gruden like gets very quiet whenever his brother makes

1421
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: a big timeward. You got to enjoy that coaching mistake.

1422
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: And uh, I think the Eagles have to feel very

1423
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: good about the timing of this game. Jonathan Allen the

1424
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: Redskins first rund draft pick is now out for the season.

1425
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: Josh Norman is very uncertain to play in this game.

1426
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: We don't know as we're taping this. They might be

1427
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: without breathing. And Tori Smith got deep against Washington a

1428
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: couple of times wide open, and Wentz missed him both

1429
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: times last uh time they played. I don't think he

1430
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: could keep missing him. And I think the secondary is

1431
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: ready and ripe to be taken apart. I mean, it's

1432
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: it's not something that I expected, But the Eagles feel

1433
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: like the favorites in the NFC right now, certainly in

1434
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: this division, I would say in the division. To me,

1435
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: they're just another team in the NFC. I know they're

1436
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: five and one and there, and I like, I think

1437
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna have stay in power and I think they'll

1438
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: have a home playoff game. But I wouldn't put them

1439
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: up ahead of any of those NFC South teams or

1440
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: the Seahawks or anything like that, or even I mean,

1441
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: it's a water down NFC at this point. If if

1442
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do what they should um this week in

1443
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco and the Redskins go to Philly and get

1444
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: a win, NFC East is wide open, so I'm not

1445
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I think that Philly is certainly showing themselves so far

1446
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: to be the most balanced team, but we know how

1447
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: this stuff can shift as the season progressed. I mean,

1448
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: this is a massive game for the Redskins because you

1449
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: would fall what two and a half games back, Annual

1450
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: have already gotten swept in terms of the season series.

1451
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: You got J Gruden this week talking about Wentz saying

1452
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: he thinks Wentz is already one of the top quarterbacks

1453
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: in the league. Quite frankly, I don't know how he

1454
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: got better so fat I've never seen a quarterback progress

1455
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: at that sort of rate. Well, and he's and I

1456
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: don't know how he got to Philadelphia. It's a little

1457
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: shot at your Browns. Well, okay, like I need you know,

1458
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: thank you? Is it is it? Um? Because I'm just curious, Mark,

1459
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: is it really frustrating when they have these primetime showcases

1460
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: and guys like Ruten cans out by the way, not

1461
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: John j And yes it is, but I would imagine

1462
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: but I'd say at this point, and Wentz is the guy. Honestly,

1463
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: if I Deshaun Watson was never on my radar pre

1464
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: draft because we're not draft guys necessarily, but Wentz was

1465
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: and I really thought that Wentz passing a Wentz felt

1466
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: like passing on Big Ben. And it's all playing out

1467
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 1: too if you're a Browns furm to an annoying script,

1468
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: but they deserve that christmasticism right now. Listen to Washington schedule,

1469
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: by the way, I was just going to mention a

1470
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: brutal slog starting at Philly and primetime that stuff home

1471
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: to Dallas is going to be a battle at Seattle,

1472
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: home to Minnesota, and at New Orleans, which all of

1473
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: a sudden looks like a very tough game, and then

1474
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: you come home and face the Giants, which won't even

1475
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: be a game. So this this is there are no

1476
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: games on that schedule, and this is a big game

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Speaker 1: for them. They've over achieved on defense and and now

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Speaker 1: that they're missing a few players, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna keep doing it in the In the real

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Speaker 1: football heads that that study the film are very impressed

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Speaker 1: with how Carson Wentz has been changing the plays and

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Speaker 1: getting the teams set up for a second year player.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what J Gruden might be talking about there,

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Speaker 1: that he's showing some of the ability of a veteran

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Speaker 1: quarterback to get the team in the right plays and

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Speaker 1: all that. That's a good sign. And three straight games

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles at home. So you got the Redskins

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Speaker 1: severences Denver. They are well set up. I think this

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Speaker 1: division could be over by mid November. So you are

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Speaker 1: all in on the Eagles. Yeah, but that fly, Eagles fly.

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Speaker 1: My predictor machine is like basically been broken for three years.

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Speaker 1: Put that in your put that in your podcast, Cell Sessler,

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Speaker 1: NFC East over by November, um mid November by myself.

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Speaker 1: Like that will be the title of today's podcast. That

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Speaker 1: is it for the Thursday night edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. We will return on Sunday night with

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Speaker 1: over every single Sunday game, including our friends in England,

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Speaker 1: Oh Twick and him Stadium. The Twick is gonna be

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Speaker 1: rocking later start this time for this for this London game,

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Speaker 1: which a good idea, nice, very good. So thank you

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Speaker 1: also having told asked that you guys this in a while,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll read some of those reviews have some fun

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