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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecock three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm talking like that, but hopefully

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Speaker 1: to my mom's house. You know what I said, got

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Speaker 1: some takes. I want to talk a little football, so

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Speaker 1: let's fire up the old computer. So got it out

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Kirk Cousins cleared, Russell Wilson, hurt Fields getting

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Speaker 1: So other than that, we'll also do a little mail

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Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram and next week

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Speaker 1: I'll be back in Arizona and we'll just be full

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Speaker 1: given my thoughts on it. So I think me and

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Speaker 1: And let's just enjoy it because football is back in

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Speaker 1: the air, Spirits are high, and we're not too far

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Speaker 1: So I watched the last episode of The Giants Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of players like this guy got this, this

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Speaker 1: that's got to happen. Now. I went to years of

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Speaker 1: Today, let's hit on a couple other things. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: put myself in people's shoes and go. I would want

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Speaker 1: to see Justin Fields, like I want to see what

427
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Speaker 1: that looks like. We just hired Arthur Smith, who had

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Speaker 1: a ton of success with a guy that everyone laughed at,

429
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Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill was the guy's backup. Within a couple

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Speaker 1: of years, they're winning playoff games. So if I'm a

431
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Speaker 1: Steeler fan, I want to see Justin Fields and see

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Speaker 1: what we can do with them. I would say. One

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Speaker 1: of the biggest stories in recent memory in the draft

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Speaker 1: I'm not just talking this year, I'm talking a handful

435
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Speaker 1: of years, was Michael Pennix going to the Atlanta Falcons.

436
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Speaker 1: And part of it is the organization which has not

437
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Speaker 1: been winning, the fact that they have a ton of

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Speaker 1: young players on offense. It was pretty clear to go,

439
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: this could get weird, and this could get weird fast.

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Speaker 1: Who is b Jon Robinson, Kyle Pitts who no one

441
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Speaker 1: knows any good and Drake London gonna connect more with

442
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Speaker 1: someone who's their age or a thirty seven year old

443
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Speaker 1: coles Ca guy coming off an Achilles injury. Now, I

444
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: do think the conversation we can pump the brakes on it,

445
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: at least for training camp because he was officially clear today,

446
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Speaker 1: and that'd be Kirk Cousins and the way I thought

447
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Speaker 1: it would get weird, which would be like, what if

448
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Speaker 1: he's not able to go in practice and Michael Pennox

449
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: the first couple weeks of training camp is taking the

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Speaker 1: reps and we all know. I guess I'm assuming you

451
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Speaker 1: guys watched him at Washington at least one or two times.

452
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Speaker 1: I mean, he was in the National Championship. But even

453
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Speaker 1: the previous game against Texas, his deep ball is beautiful.

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a thing of beauty. It's like Russell

455
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Speaker 1: Wilson circa twenty sixteen. That ball goes up in the air.

456
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Speaker 1: You're like, God, that is a gorgeous spiral. Now Kirk

457
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Speaker 1: Cousins can just take the reps. Now, ultimately training camp

458
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Speaker 1: ends and you start playing games, and then things could change,

459
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Speaker 1: but at least for the next month, assuming he stays

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Speaker 1: healthy and assuming he has no setbacks, that he gets

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Speaker 1: to take the starting reps, attempt to build a chemistry.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, there's a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to play well and play well early, because

464
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Speaker 1: this gets back to the Steeler thing. This gets back

465
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Speaker 1: to what I said about the Patriots. Fans in the

466
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Speaker 1: NFL have a lot of juice because nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: watch a shitty quarterback. No one wants to watch poor

468
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Speaker 1: quarterback play. And the moment a guy struggles, fair or not,

469
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: everyone starts chanting for the backup. Everyone does. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of times that does not work out either. But

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Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. So when your backup is

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Speaker 1: an already established older whoever, oh, it's one thing. It's

473
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Speaker 1: another thing when it's going Wait, Kirk Cousins off to

474
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Speaker 1: a really slow start, he's struggling. How about check out

475
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Speaker 1: the number eighth pick in the draft who just had

476
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Speaker 1: an incredible two years in college and led his team

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Speaker 1: to the national championship against Michigan. Let's see that guy.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty easy conversation to get started. It's the

479
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: same thing with Drake May It's like, yeah, we've kind

480
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: of seemed Jakobe before. I think we're cool with that.

481
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Can we test drive the new car? You know that?

482
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Speaker 1: Drake may guy, I understand it. And owners think a

483
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: lot like fans, And they definitely listen to them because

484
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: they were listening to the podcast, they're listening to the radio,

485
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: they're watching the television shows. Players and coaches at least

486
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Speaker 1: can lie to you and tell you they don't watch it.

487
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Speaker 1: Owners don't even lie. I mean, they consume the hell

488
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Speaker 1: out of it, and rightfully so I would too if

489
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Speaker 1: I was them. Last little story of the day. It's

490
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Speaker 1: kind of fascinating for a long period of time. Now,

491
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: the money was a lot different. I mean, obviously, if

492
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Speaker 1: you played in the NFL in the nineties and you

493
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Speaker 1: were a good player, you were still rich relative to society.

494
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Speaker 1: But google some of like ninety four contracts, like what

495
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Speaker 1: was EMMITTT. Smith making in ninety four or what was

496
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Speaker 1: you know, Troy Aikman's contract extension. It doesn't look anything

497
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Speaker 1: like now. Again, still a lot of money, not the same.

498
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Speaker 1: So when you're an elite player and you know you

499
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Speaker 1: have a ton of money coming, it's I said this

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Speaker 1: about Jordan Love the other day. I totally understand mitigating, Like,

501
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Speaker 1: I can't afford that if some guard trips and his

502
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: three hundred pound ass falls on my ankle and it

503
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Speaker 1: shatters and I got a compound fracture and I never

504
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Speaker 1: walked the same and all of a sudden, that contract

505
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: that my agent told me was probably forty eight hours away,

506
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: they just put the shredder. I'd be like, I don't

507
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: know what. I'd jump off a bridge. I wouldn't be

508
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Speaker 1: able to live with myself. So I get it, I

509
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Speaker 1: really do. And if you want to hold in, hold out, however,

510
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: I prefer with young players holding in. I just think

511
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: it's easier to like, have good vibes, and it's always

512
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: easier if you're an employee to be around the people

513
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: that are in control and have a positive attitude like

514
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Speaker 1: those people. Let's face it, most people want to work

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Speaker 1: with people they like, and then if those people that

516
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Speaker 1: they like are also good, like talented people and a

517
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: new generators and good salesmen or great receivers, like, they

518
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: want you around. Most people don't. If you could choose,

519
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: would I rather work with a positive, upbeat person that

520
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: I like who's good at his job or a negative

521
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: a whole pessimistic individual who's good at his job. We'd

522
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Speaker 1: all pick the same individual, so it's easy even though

523
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Speaker 1: they already know you to be like, hey, listen, this

524
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: contract talk is not easy, but I'm gonna show up.

525
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a guy. I'm not gonna practice, but

526
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Speaker 1: i just want you to see my attitude, like I'm

527
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: a team first guy. Like these are the people making

528
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Speaker 1: the decision, you know, not NFL Live, not me on

529
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: this podcast, not any fan on Twitter. It's like the

530
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: GM and the head coach and the owner. So you

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Speaker 1: want to give them as many good vibes as you want. Now,

532
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, all that stuff's irrelevant, right, He's they like him, obviously,

533
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: they love the guy. But like, when you're that good,

534
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, you know, when you get Trent Williams,

535
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, the ed reads. I meant there are a

536
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: certain level of player you can do whatever the hell

537
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Speaker 1: you want. But I think Jamar Chase, who clearly has

538
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Speaker 1: a very close relationship with his quarterback, who has been

539
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: an elite player since he entered the league, is in

540
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: a weird spot because Mike Brown, I saw, I don't

541
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Speaker 1: know if it was earlier this week. What day is

542
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Speaker 1: it Thursday? Maybe it was the end of last week,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was over the weekend. I've kind of lost

544
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Speaker 1: track of time during this month. Basically said like, yeah,

545
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: we're probably not gonna negotiate once football seasons starts. Meeting

546
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: training camp, just on a football I wouldn't get ready

547
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: for a contract. If I was Jamar Chase, it'd be like, what,

548
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you can't talk to my agent, Like, you don't have

549
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: to negotiate with me, but talk to my agent. Well,

550
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: two straight days he hasn't practiced, and his his you know,

551
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: his coach was kind of mum about it. But it's

552
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: pretty easy to figure out because like Brandon Ayuk, like

553
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. Even though Jamar Chase already rich, he was

554
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: the fifth pick in the try he signed a thirty

555
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: million dollar contract, He's already made some money. I think

556
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: the media does a poor job of this, Like that's

557
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: life changing money if you invest it correctly, that can

558
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: be generational money. But there is a big difference between

559
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars and one hundred and twenty million dollars.

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00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: We all acknowledge that. So if I was Jamar Chase,

561
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Speaker 1: put Mike Brown's feet to the fire a little bit.

562
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Speaker 1: They've tried to act differently in the Joe Burrow era

563
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Speaker 1: than they had maybe going back to like Carson Palmer.

564
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Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do? I'll play with Jamar Chase.

565
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: What are your options? And this is where players do

566
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Speaker 1: have leverage and can just make it weird because when

567
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: he does this, it can be weird in the locker

568
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: room and you just kind of get some weird juju

569
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: even though he's not doing anything wrong. It's like, hey, guys,

570
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: time for a contract extension. But that's clearly happening all

571
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Speaker 1: over the league. And before we get out of here,

572
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Fugazi Friday, I don't have a great fugazi for you

573
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: because I don't even know if this is technically a fugazi.

574
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: It's just a story. Last Thursday, I got invited to

575
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Speaker 1: play this golf course about thirty minutes away from where

576
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: I was staying in Lake Tahoe, and it was in

577
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: a place called Trucky and Oblique course. I mean it's

578
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: it's it's awesome and family led by Glenn one of

579
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: the coolest experiences of my life. Then had us over

580
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: for dinner. They have a incredible pad. I mean the

581
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: pads in this place are eight to fifteen, twenty million dollars.

582
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, Wayne Gretzky, Chris Bryant, John Elway originally

583
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: had a pad. I think actually Glenn bought the lot

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Speaker 1: from him. It's just it's one of the coolest places

585
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I've ever been. There's no debating that. So I go,

586
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I take an uber from the house at about because

587
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: we're teeing off like two thirty. So I uber from

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00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: the house. It's about forty forty five minutes away, get

589
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: their play golf, and they're gonna have dinner at their

590
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: pad after. So I tell Maria, my fiance, like come

591
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: meet us. They're like, oh, bring her over. So she

592
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: comes and meets us. We have dinner, we're hanging out,

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00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: we're having a good time, and then we leave and

594
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: we're headed home about forty minute drive. And I wasn't

595
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: even drunk, but Maria was dd And it was a

596
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: long drive in the dark at about eleven o'clock at

597
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: night in the mountains. So you don't have like four

598
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: lane freeways here. It's it's I wouldn't say sketchy, it's

599
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: just not a comfortable drive. But we make it home

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: and listen, I've had fun all day playing golf. She

601
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of waited for me to text, so it's like

602
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I had a lot more fun in that day. And

603
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: then she has to be the DD like I could

604
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: understand spirits, her spirits being a little lower than mine.

605
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we're probably six seven minutes. Anyone

606
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: that's been in North Lake Tahoe knows there's a place

607
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: called Garwoods, which is awesome restaurant right on the water.

608
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: It's just always packed in the summer. I mean, they're

609
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: just they're doing hundreds of thousands of dollars of revenue

610
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: every day. So we get to Garwoods and they're just

611
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: police everywhere, and I think half the cars in front

612
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: of us thought it was a dy checkpoint because they

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00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: were all flipping uie's and going the other way. I'm like,

614
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't what a crash here or something. Let's just

615
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: see what we get there, and we roll down the

616
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: window and the sheriff or the police officer goes there

617
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: has been because there's a ton of construction going on

618
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: up there, that one of the construction workers had hit

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Speaker 1: a plumbing line and there was thousands of gallons of

620
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: sewage everywhere, and I guess a ton went into the

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Speaker 1: water as well. I'm like, ah, that sucks. Can we

622
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: just again five minutes from home or do you drive

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Speaker 1: forty minutes? Can we just go around it? And the

624
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: guy's like, actually, you can't, and this road is going

625
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: to be closed. I said, well for how long? Like

626
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: an hour? He's like, I got no clue, but it's

627
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: going to be a while. He's like, my recommendation would

628
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: just beat a backtrack and go around. And the problem,

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Speaker 1: like I said, with these mountains is there aren't just

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Speaker 1: like side streets to get around. There's kind of one

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Speaker 1: lane in and out, a lot of plays. So we

632
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: had to go all the way back and then from

633
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: there where we had to go back to probably another

634
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. It was a disaster all because the

635
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: amount of construction going on in the Lake Tahoe area,

636
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: which makes sense because in any of these winter mountain places,

637
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Speaker 1: you can't do construction four or five months a year,

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Speaker 1: so they have to double down in the summer. And

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Speaker 1: it's bananas because poop and a lady told us walking

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Speaker 1: the dogs yesterday that she had heard that it was

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten thousand gallons a spillage and around

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Speaker 1: eighty of that went into the water. And when we

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Speaker 1: went swimming, probably a couple days after, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: we're five minute drive, so just down the lake. Even

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Speaker 1: Maria was like, God, this the lake looks kind of

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Speaker 1: just dirty today. And it had been super clear the

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Speaker 1: whole time. It was clear, even the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days when we went jet ski in the other day.

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Speaker 1: That's skiing is I'm not a motorcycle guy. Driven a

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Speaker 1: couple dirt bikes in my day, but I would not.

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Speaker 1: I've never driven a Harley or any bike like that.

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Speaker 1: There has to be a freedom, like you're just on

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Speaker 1: the open lake on a jet ski. I started thinking,

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Speaker 1: is this what a guy Harley feels like? Because it

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Speaker 1: is very just I don't know, freeing that there's something

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Speaker 1: just special about that feeling just on the open road

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Speaker 1: or the open sea or the open lake, just you know,

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Speaker 1: the jet ski. You go sixty miles an hour in

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Speaker 1: a jet ski, you feel like you're going ninety. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then we went swimming and the water is really dirty,

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Speaker 1: and then we figured out that yeah, it might have

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Speaker 1: been a poop all over us. So hopefully everyone had

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Speaker 1: a good vacation as well.

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Speaker 4: The NFL seasons right around the corner. We'll be breaking

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Speaker 4: down all the off season storylines on the Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 4: podcast My Best Takes Guess like my buddy Nick Wright.

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Speaker 4: Check out the Colin Coward podcast, part of the Vault

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Speaker 4: Allume network, available on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get

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Speaker 4: your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a little thing that we like to call

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Speaker 1: the middle Coff mail Bag at John Middlecoff. At John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire into those dms, as many

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Speaker 1: people have done. So let's start with a guy. This

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Speaker 1: is pretty crazy, but this is Sean. This is not

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Speaker 1: crazy because I don't even know what it's a question yet.

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Speaker 1: It's just long, So let's dive into it. At John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff Instagram firing question comment for the bag, I'll do

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Speaker 1: my best to summarize. He did a lot of summarizing.

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Speaker 1: As the league transitions away from a running offense, NFL

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Speaker 1: gms and ownership seem to have mutually concluded that the

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Speaker 1: running back position is not a premium spot, citing that

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Speaker 1: teams can draft productive players later and that second contracts

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Speaker 1: are too risky. I'd agree, Yet as receivers increasing ass

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Speaker 1: increasingly asked for twenty eight to thirty five million dollars,

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Speaker 1: there seems to be little pushback from ownership in writing

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Speaker 1: these checks. Rarely is the dependent nature of the position discussed,

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Speaker 1: even in mits, mounting evidence that a great wide receiver

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Speaker 1: one is not needed to win a chip. For example,

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Speaker 1: Jefferson Hill, Chase Lamb, and Adams, arguably the best five

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in the league are either on losing teams

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Speaker 1: or did not win a playoff game in twenty four Chase,

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Speaker 1: if Burro's healthy there, they've been pretty successful. But I

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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. The Packers made it to the

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Speaker 1: divisional round with a bunch of four to fifth and

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Speaker 1: six round rookies. Chiefs traded Hill, went back to back

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Speaker 1: with a tight end five unreliable wide receiver threes, and

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Speaker 1: going back in time, virtually none of the great Patriot

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Speaker 1: teams in the two thousands or twenty tens featured an

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Speaker 1: elite receiving corps. Tell you this, your question was really

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Speaker 1: long because you just wrote a lot, but it's you're

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Speaker 1: making good points. In my opinion, the offensive a defensive

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Speaker 1: lines as well as the quarterback and coach are significantly

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Speaker 1: more important to winning than an elite wide receiver talent,

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Speaker 1: Yet no one bocks when a wide receiver asked for

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Speaker 1: a monster deal. Plenty of elite wide receivers have rotted

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Speaker 1: away on dysfunctional teams while putting up all pro stats.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there will be a market correction and

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Speaker 1: receiver contracts? It would seem that that the most dependent

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Speaker 1: position in football should not be getting quarterback level money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I listen. It's why I've said with the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, like this is my number, buddy, I'm

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Speaker 1: not budgeting. If it's just I'm not budget we're not

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Speaker 1: paying anymore. And I think the forty nine ers aren't

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Speaker 1: even that comfortable giving him twenty six million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: But they've kind of acquiesced because I think they can

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Speaker 1: get rid of Deebo Samuel next year and who knows

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Speaker 1: what George Kittle, but Ceedee Lamb. This was my thing

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Speaker 1: earlier with the Cowboys. It's like, Okay, I pay Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: which is a no brainer, and I pay Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson money. Well, if I let Dak walk, Like

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Speaker 1: who's throwing in the ball. Gardner minshew, I'm gonna sign

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Speaker 1: like Jacoby Brissett next year. Like what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Hope and pray I strike oil again in like the

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Speaker 1: third or fourth round at quarterback. But I think where

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Speaker 1: it gets tough. The Chiefs paid Tyrek Hill once and

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with him, and honestly, he made

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest plays in that game, right him

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Speaker 1: and Mahomes. I think they got to the point where

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Speaker 1: they chose other guys. They essentially chose Chris Jones. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you would argue the defensive line is more

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Speaker 1: important than the offensive line if you have a good

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Speaker 1: offensive coach. Kyle Shanahan told my guy Tim Kawakami that

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Speaker 1: he thinks drafting offensive linemen high can be a little overrated.

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Speaker 1: Now I just a little bit, and he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I drafted Trent Williams with my dad for so it's

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Speaker 1: not like we don't draft him. I agree, guards and centers,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem drafting those guys on the third

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Speaker 1: day of the draft and developing in them. I do

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Speaker 1: think to get good tackle play, you typically have to

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Speaker 1: draft the guys high. Most of the best tackles in

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Speaker 1: the league are high end drafted players, and I think

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Speaker 1: that philosophy for the forty nine ers, for example, was

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Speaker 1: they got they took Javon Kinlaw essentially over Tristan Wurfs.

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Speaker 1: It's a devastating decision. And I just think that when

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Speaker 1: you have, back to my point, like Justin Jefferson on

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Speaker 1: your team, it's hard to not want them on your team.

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Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear, and part of it is like

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Speaker 1: if we're not gonna be really good, to now sell

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Speaker 1: some jerseys, like this is a business. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people got uncomfortable when John Marrow was like, this is

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Speaker 1: the most popular guy on our team. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was of course he said that it's true because he's

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Speaker 1: the best player. I mean, it's not like he's just

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Speaker 1: the most popular player, like it's some guy that puts

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Speaker 1: up all of stats and know he's the best player

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Speaker 1: on the team. He's a high character guy. So like Davante,

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Speaker 1: the Packers did it right, that they really did, but

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Speaker 1: let's face it, they probably would have extended him if

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Speaker 1: he would have played ball. I think it's hard when

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Speaker 1: you have really good players who are good guys that

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Speaker 1: you want to keep them so I think it's easier

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Speaker 1: said than done. But I'm with you. I would struggle

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Speaker 1: paying wide receivers thirty five million dollars a year. It's like, wait,

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Speaker 1: how many games we just win last year? How many

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Speaker 1: games we win last year? But you're like, this is

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Speaker 1: the best player on my team. I think it's easier

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Speaker 1: to say I'm guilty of this to be like draw

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Speaker 1: a hard line trade him. I think it's also hard

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Speaker 1: to trade right, because like the Packers and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: pulled it off right when they traded those two guys.

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Speaker 1: But if you wanted to trade justin Jefferson, is someone

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Speaker 1: going to give you two to ones and two twos

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Speaker 1: and then give him that contract because you can't trade

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Speaker 1: him for at this point in time for one and

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Speaker 1: a two.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: First off, congrats on the engagement. I appreciate it. Logan,

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Speaker 1: get me out of my own head here. I've been

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Speaker 1: seeing the major fan based NFL teams usually win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and teams like the Lions, Bills, and Panthers,

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Speaker 1: for example, don't make the NFL as much money as

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Speaker 1: teams like the Packers, Patriots, Chiefs do. I will say

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Bills have switch spots like the

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Speaker 1: Bills are rating very, very highly because of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: So I would not put the Bills in that scenario

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Speaker 1: because the Bills are playing in a ton of afternoon

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Speaker 1: window games with Jim NANTZ, which is the highest rated

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Speaker 1: game of the day, Sunday Night Football, which is the

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Speaker 1: highest rated television show they play Monday nights Thursday Night,

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Speaker 1: like the Bills are a cash cow for the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now in terms of television ratings. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's possible the NFL wouldn't want the smaller fan bases

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl because of ratings, could could gate

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Speaker 1: keep them out a big game by using the refs

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Speaker 1: to do so. I just think the NFL has proven

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Speaker 1: Like when the Lakers were in bed with the mob

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Speaker 1: or not, the it wasn't. I'm not blaming the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Tim Donnegy was in bed with the mob and made

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Speaker 1: sure the Lakers got to the NBA Finals over the Kings.

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Speaker 1: The NBA, I think is a better example Baseball as well,

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Speaker 1: of like Lebron and Steph Curry are the only players

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Speaker 1: that rate right now in the NBA at a high

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Speaker 1: level in Major League Baseball, like having the Dodgers having

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Speaker 1: the Yankees having the Phillies or the Mets is a

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Speaker 1: big deal in football. It's kind of proven that these

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Speaker 1: playoff games, whether it's the Jags and the Chargers or

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Speaker 1: the Niners versus the Cowboys, you are doing massive numbers.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the Super Bowl benefits if Tom Brady or

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is there. But if I tell you right

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Speaker 1: now it's Bill's Lions in the Super Bowl, it might

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Speaker 1: not be the highest rates super Bowl ever, but a

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Speaker 1: one hundred million people are watching. The NFL has proven

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Speaker 1: and this is why their business model is so strong.

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Speaker 1: They're the least dependent on that stuff. Like the NBA

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Speaker 1: would sell their left you know, leg to get Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry versus Lebron James even at forty and thirty six

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Speaker 1: years old in the Conference finals against each other seven games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they would give anything, but they no longer

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Speaker 1: can do that with the mob and the refs and

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Speaker 1: baseball clearly. I mean, the Dodgers, beside the fake sixty

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Speaker 1: game season, can't make it to the World Series to

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Speaker 1: save their life. Hell, they struggle to make it out

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Speaker 1: the first round, so and it hurts them. In football,

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter. It just it really doesn't because

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Speaker 1: of the consumer. Like think of how I consume these

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Speaker 1: other sports. Like if you tell me the World Series

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Speaker 1: and I love playoff Baseball, but it's like Cleveland verse

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Speaker 1: the Phillies, the guy. I don't know if I'm as

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Speaker 1: locked in, but if you tell me it's Yankees Phillies

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Speaker 1: or Yankees Dodgers, probably not missing it. Hypothetical question. I

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Speaker 1: liked your point on why two and DAC shouldn't get

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Speaker 1: the huge contracts and how silly it is that every

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Speaker 1: new contract the design needs to be the most expensive.

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Speaker 1: What if the league operated with a system that forced

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Speaker 1: contracts to match the position ranking example, third best automatically

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Speaker 1: gets third highest salary. What do you think the impact

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Speaker 1: would be on the franchise team building? Well, who's doing

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Speaker 1: the ranking? That would be the problem that the union

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Speaker 1: would go to war with who ranks them? Pff, John Midcoffe,

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Speaker 1: Colin Coward, GM Survey, I mean who gets to rank them?

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, and if it was just

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Speaker 1: cut and dry, it'd be easy. But first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: the union would wage war on you even with this idea.

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Speaker 1: Number one and two in fairness to their argument like,

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Speaker 1: how could you properly rate who throws the most touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: who has the most wins, who's the best player voted

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Speaker 1: on by their peers top one hundred. I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it difficult. I actually see exactly what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. And if there was a way that was

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00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: objectively unarguable that like this is where they rank top

851
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: fifteen quarterbacks, I wouldn't be against it. But I think

852
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: it's impossible to get that, And it's why you get

853
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: these situations that, let's face it, forever until interest rates

854
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: went up, your house in your neighborhood, the next house

855
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that went on sale in twenty and twenty one, and

856
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: then halfway through and mainly through twenty two, which is

857
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: more more, more more, And then what happened. Interest rates

858
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: started going up and we started nippicking. Yeah I don't

859
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: like your rugs, Yeah you need a new roof, Yeah

860
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: this layout's not as great. And who got a lot

861
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: of juice? The buyer who's had a lot of juice

862
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: to the last year plus a buyer. I know because

863
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: I bought a house last May, and I had I

864
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: tried to buy a house the year previously, and I

865
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: was gonna get bent over this time. I did some bending.

866
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: Now it was give and take. It wasn't like I

867
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: was in complete control. But it was not twenty twenty

868
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: one anymore, and you got to fight for a lot

869
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: of things and win some of those. And I think

870
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: that's the problem with these quarterback contracts. It doesn't feel

871
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: like there's any give or take. It's just one side,

872
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: like bend over and take it. It's like, well, we

873
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: all know you're not like a top seven quarterback, and

874
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pay you more. How does this make

875
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: in what other industry does that work? I understand Jordan

876
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Love that happens in other industries. I'm betting on the future.

877
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: I think this could be you know, if it was

878
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: a stock a ten bagger, I think this guy could

879
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: be awesome. Same with Trevor Lawrence a little like I'm

880
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: betting on the future, Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, Like, you're

881
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: not betting on it, You're just buying that player, Like

882
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: we know exactly what that player is, we know exact

883
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: that the Atlanta Falcons want the player that they've seen

884
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: the last three or four years with the Minnesota Vikings.

885
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: They're not betting on some future. They just want that

886
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: players well established, Like it's that there's no question marks

887
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here, right, So I don't get it,

888
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, Like Tua is never gonna have great mobility,

889
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: He's never gonna have some howitzer his game. Let's face it,

890
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: we've seen those type players never really translates to winter football,

891
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: which is a problem when you play in a sunny

892
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: place and all the good teams play in frigid weather. Dak,

893
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: I do get, like Dak's proving every single year, like

894
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: Dek's beating the best teams in this conference. Tua cannot

895
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: do that, And I feel like this is not I'm

896
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: not like anti Tua. Whenever I think he's an impressive guy.

897
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I like the person. He works his ass off. Again,

898
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: he's a solid starting quarterback. But like, why can't a

899
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: solid starting quarterback be like, yeah, we just signed Tua

900
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: to twenty six million dollars for the next four years

901
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and whatever. That would be five million dollar contract. Wit. Wait,

902
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: that would never happen, but if it did, it'd be

903
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: like God, that that seems right, seems like a good

904
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: win win. This guy gets one hundred million dollars. Dolphins

905
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: get a solid quarterback, but he's not nearly paid like

906
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: the other elite guys. Never happens that way. It doesn't

907
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: feel like it ever will. I feel like the business

908
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: is a little broken. The union would be like, these

909
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: guys deserve their money. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes does, Josh Allen does,

910
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson does. Elite players. This guy's not as good

911
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: as that guy. So in what world this guy's not

912
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: as good as that guy. Yet this next guy, because

913
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: he's the newest, gets way more money than that guy.

914
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: How does that make any sense in any business? But

915
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: it's just like agreed upon in this one. I don't

916
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: think the owners fight back enough. Maybe because they're making

917
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: so much money. Who even gives a shit? That's probably

918
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: the reality of that answer. Okay, get you out of

919
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: the here on this. Hey, John, I'm a diehard Charger

920
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: fan and watch them every Sunday religiously. I appreciate that

921
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: because Nick, you've been through some stuff. You really have

922
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: You've had. I don't know how old you are. Let's

923
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: look at your profile, your block so I can't see it.

924
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: It looks like you're playing softball or something. But I'll

925
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: just assume you're thirty thirty, five thirty. You've had a

926
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: rough fifteen plus years. I truly believe that Herbert was

927
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: placed on the Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, he would have three

928
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowls by now. The only reason the media doesn't

929
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: give him his flowers is because of his lack of

930
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: playoff success. But he has actually some of the worst

931
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: defenses of all time. Not even Mahomes would win if

932
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: he were on the Chargers. If you truly watch him play,

933
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: he is deadly accurate and makes plays no one else

934
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: can make. So why doesn't the media judge him honestly

935
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: and properly? I will say this one thing I've learned

936
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years when it comes to sports,

937
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to politics, who gives a shit what

938
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the media thinks? I mean, is

939
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: there a group that, honestly, if they were talking about you,

940
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: you'd go that really hurts? Right? The overwhelming majority of

941
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: them what they say has who cares? It does not

942
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: matter honestly in politics, you know, it's like half of

943
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: it's like fake. They just lie. In sports, people give

944
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: their opinion. Now, some of them on TV feel like

945
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: they're fake in an opinion to try to get a reaction.

946
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: But it just doesn't matter. So when someone says a

947
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: good player is not good, it's just like who cares?

948
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't If you don't think Justin Herbert is a

949
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: good player, I don't know what to tell you. Now.

950
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: He is a tough player to judge for ninety percent

951
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: of fans because of his situation. He's played with Brandon Staley.

952
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: It's like, fuck, now he's gonna get, you know, legitimately

953
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: judged in these next couple of years playing for Jim Harbaugh,

954
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: like they gotta win together as a pairing. I got

955
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: news for you. I would bet on them to do that.

956
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna win the super Bowl, but

957
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be good. Why Jim Harbaugh is always really

958
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: good and Justin Herbert when he's had a good coach

959
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: or just had a well run operation like in Oregon,

960
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: he won, So I would expect them to win. Honestly,

961
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: this year, I think they win ten games and I

962
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: think Herbert's gonna be really good. So what's people on television?

963
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Former players? I mean former players sometimes whenever I see

964
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: their takes like a come across social media. It's so

965
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: funny how often I get forwarded things from like assistant

966
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: GM or you know, college scouts, like this is the

967
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: dumbest take I've ever seen. Like no one I know

968
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: thinks this is real, Like this, like no one agrees

969
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: with this. And that's like, let's face. As a player,

970
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: to judge other players, you just judge them playing against them.

971
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: But as a GM you can be you're a scout

972
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: or just even a fan, you can kind of be objective.

973
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: You can watch other players. Listen. We all have biases.

974
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: If you hate a certain team, I get it, Like

975
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: like the Raiders. I saw this clip of them having

976
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: the Kermit the Frog doll with Mahomes Jersey. It's like,

977
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: what are you idiots doing? Just because you beat them

978
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: on Christmas? They just won their second Super Bowl? You

979
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: just fired like your tenth coach in twenty years. Might

980
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: even be more that, like in what world does anyone

981
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea? In what world? Like how

982
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: stupid that is? And before like that, Chargers kind of

983
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: felt like they would do something like that. No longer

984
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: and this Chargers get lucky, That's who they play. Who

985
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: are you taking Harbaugh? And Herbert or Minshew and Antonio Pierce.

986
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take shots at the Raiders. At

987
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce, it seems like a good guy, but that

988
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: doll is a reflection to him. Can you imagine that

989
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: doll at an Andy Reid practice, at Kyle Shanahan, Sean

990
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: McVay practice, at a Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would cut

991
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: that in. If that guy wasn't Tom Brady holding that doll,

992
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: that guy would be cut immediately. He would have been

993
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: cut yesterday. And I just think that that's what you

994
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: have going for you now. Is before it just felt

995
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: like Mickey Mouse, just just embarrassing. And let's face if

996
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley was beyond over his head. And now you

997
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: get Jim Harbaught who's born to coach, be a head

998
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: coach and has been doing it for two decades and

999
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: winning at the highest level. So if people want to

1000
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: say whatever they want about Justin Herbert, I'd say, come

1001
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: talk to me in fucking November, buddy, because you better

1002
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: buckle up because we're coming the volume