WEBVTT - Finding Ways to WIN! + Eagles Preview + Fish Master Fred? | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.400 On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we got a 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:07.680 Saints recap, kind of a gut check offense. I thought 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.280 Jane Daniels had a fantastic game despite those eight sacks, 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.560 and we talk defense the Marshawn Lattimore effect, and then 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.880 we risk it for the biscuit with our Eagles preview. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.640 Ye, and do we throw the kitchen sick at them? 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.079 And which is better? Fred offense deep big wrong man 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:23.599 wrong wrong. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.479 And then we got a very special episode, my favorite 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.400 episode of. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.440 Hell Yeah and hell No, hook a bear Free? 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.480 Do you like to fish? It all starts right now. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.239 Welcome into the comand Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.640 with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. And just remind you 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.360 we are presented by Cognire Technology, Secure Today, Shape Tomorrow, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.800 Yes Day. Thank you Cognire because without that and we 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.279 can't do this show, so really appreciate it all right now, 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.760 that gets us right? Oh, first off, housekeeping, Yeah, just 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.080 a reminder, Fred and Santana we will be doing a show. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.480 It will air on Christmas Day, yes, so make sure 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.480 if you guys are you know, going to someone's. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.759 House and you're just sitting there, you want to. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.240 Talk about some football with some family and it's going 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.560 to be a special episode because you have a bakeoff. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:18.040 Yes, we do Freddy crock Freddy Cracker, Freddy Crocker, a beating. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.120 And just a reminder of friends down by one in 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.240 the series with Anna already with Anna producer Anam and 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.039 she she's coming big. What are you guys doing? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.800 Uh, we're doing actually two, we're doing a cake and 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.800 a wild card. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.200 Because yeah, she was at the end of the day 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:34.360 She's like, I can't do a full platter. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.039 Yeah, it's too much. I'm doing some devilly strawberries. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.040 Yeah, I'm excited for that. Man, I'm excited for them. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.360 Ain't all that good? No, no, he's saying the strawberries. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.720 So I'm trying to see how you gonna make it. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.440 To think about it, instead of that cream that you 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.640 lose on devily eggs, I used this. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.560 You use cheese cake, South cheesecake, so they icing and 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:55.200 the cheesecake. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.640 The cheesecake actually, so it's cheesecake own scrawberries. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.880 But it looks like it's cutting hand. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.440 What's what's the color of that? 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.040 I'm looking forward. It's gonna be red cream with a 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:07.880 little crush to it. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.200 I was gonna say, as long as it's not white, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.360 because whites. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.840 Just because of it. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.320 All right, So yeah, make sure you check that out. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.000 That'll be on Christmas Day. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.960 All right. Now, let's get to this, uh Saints recap. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.000 It's kind of a gut check win. You know, on 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.400 your show postgame postgame show talking about how this was 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.519 kind of a character win, character win. Let's talk about it, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.680 high level thoughts. I guess we can start with Fred 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.200 because it hurts him not to talk. So Fred, high 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.280 level thoughts in the game. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.560 Character win. It took all three facets. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.519 Offense dominated the first half, defense dominated a special team 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:47.320 the second half. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.000 Situational football. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.560 We usually lose these type games, these these these last play, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.240 last drive games. They're finding ways to win them. No 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.080 matter what adversity they have to go through. They found 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:02.640 a way and not only did they do it, they 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.440 did it then they and it's hard to play in 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.920 New Orleans, man, Like, that's a crazy environment. So to 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.679 go there and have this win, because think about it, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.920 when you get to the playoffs, the games won't be 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.480 for the point wins, like they're gonna look exactly like 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.160 what happened Sunday. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.239 So character win for me finding a way to win 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:22.760 the game. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.640 We watch Kansas City have twelve character wins this year, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.600 like nobody talks about. But our fan base get scared 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.520 and get tight when we win these tight games. When 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.920 you need to be applau that your first year quarterback 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.280 is learning how to win these games. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.080 Well, first of all, it's tough to come off a 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.080 buy and get a role victory period. You know, you 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.000 know how tough those tho You know what I mean? 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.800 Like I mean you we played in uh you count 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.800 them and name them. Were playing a lot of games 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.000 out there, buy and we come out select. You come 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.960 out thinking that, okay, we can just go out here 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.720 and roll out here and we should be fresh. No, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.200 when the guys have a jump on you and they 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.320 being able to have a game the week prior, No 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.200 matter how much film you watch, it's hard to get 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.880 going after that NFL speed. So I'm happy that we 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.960 got the win because of that reason. Then I'm also 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.840 happy because a lot of adversity happened throughout that game 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.760 that we could have easy to just say, man, you 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.200 know what, it's not going our way. You know, when 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.719 you talked about it's hard part to playing New Orleans. No, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.000 that was that was that was New Orleans. I guess 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.640 you can call that the New Orleans Commanders because it 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.400 was more Commanders fans in there. At one point you 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.240 never even heard the damn Saints fan. You know it 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.880 was it was Terry. You heard them screaming Terry and defense. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:43.160 I'm like, we home, we traveled, so our fans traveled well, man. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.119 I mean the night before with the Go Go band, 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.359 me and me and b Mitch went out to the 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.560 Empire and you thought you was in d C somewhere. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:57.440 It was all Commanders fans for a reason, because if 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.800 you decide how Bourbon Street and Street look after, we 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.720 knew we wanted to saw you the next morning for work. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.440 So listen, means everywhere we all need. We also hit 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.039 the responsible thing and was an adults and came in 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.320 by eleven o'clock, so we knew Fred would have been out. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.279 We need to check that evidence. I need to check 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.480 the you would have saw me and a damn lobby 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.200 going up to my room. But I'm just happy man 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.279 as a whole, that they was able to go up 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.800 there with adversity and with everything that went on we've 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.520 been on the road and still get the win, and 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.000 now you can have something, you know, to be happy 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.920 about looking at film this week going into one of 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.040 our toughest games this season. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.640 Yeah, And I also think you know, you talk about 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.520 the adversity. I think that's really good context. Like just 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.240 getting the road win. That's a tough It's a tough trip, right, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.000 it's a tough trip, and so like getting the road 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.320 wind is good and we're not here to like absolve 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.800 them of all of any negative things that happened or 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:45.599 things they could do better. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.840 We're just saying that's a tough win. Also, I think the. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.800 Injuries, like getting Zach Er it's hurt early, getting Tyler 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.520 Beatis doesn't play, Jasey Chen gets out early. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.040 Like the wild Boards really was affected by Beyondish not 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:58.960 being a big time. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.200 When I saw couldn't run the ball, I was like, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.320 oh man, this is you don't miss something to his gone, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.000 this is beyond us right here. I mean, I knew 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.880 it probably gonna have a little effect, but I didn't 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.880 think it was gonna He's. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.440 The anchor being in that offensive life. He's the reason 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.040 the wild Boards are playing like they. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.039 And again like this will get into this morning we 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.480 talk about the offense, but you know, like a more 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.600 technical breakdown is like New Orlean's gotten some different fronts, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.279 like different spacings up front, and you could just tell 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:25.920 that Deeter. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.400 Was not I couldn't see everything well. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.960 Not quite aware, and like he had a couple of 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.599 mandial mistakes and and and have been been been a 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.440 guy who's coming off the bench, Like unless you're prepping 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:36.719 really hard, it can be really hard. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.359 And think about it like this, and let's put that 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.960 into context. All week long, you with the scout team 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.719 and then you hear game morning, game day morning, Oh 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.360 you know, might be down and you got to start, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.440 and you're just like, so what he was he prepared? 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.640 You see what I'm saying, was he did he have 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.040 any inklin coming into the he might happen he didn't. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:03.440 They wouldn't have imagine not being prepared. Like you're thinking, like, man, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.279 I work this week, I got I got this, I 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.599 got Sunday off. You know, I'm good. I don't have 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.400 to worry about to definitely go watch these guys go 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.000 outd and dominate and then they I get the phone call, Hey, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.440 come down early. You're gonna be on the first bus 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.760 because you gotta put you're gonna be the Senate the day. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.200 Yeah, right, dude, it's uh. And it's one of those 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.080 things like I think that's a really way great way 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.040 to paint the picture. But like you really if you're 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.960 a backup, and this is why you get paid. Backups 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.559 get paid a lot of money. Yeah, you gotta prep 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.160 every single week, like and it's so hard to do 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.800 that because usually you get an in clean like oh, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.800 he's got a tight hamstring on Thursday. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:37.240 Yeah, you talking to each other. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.280 Yeah, probably gonna play. But to get that illness, that's 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.080 gonna be so I thought that was a great job 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.080 to handle the university. The other thing I think, on 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.480 kind of a brighter note is the defense is starting 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.320 to come together. We're gonna talk about that more specifically 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.760 in a second. And to me, I know we're gonna 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.320 talk a lot about Jane Daniels eight sacks, but this 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.280 in watching the film was maybe his best game of 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:58.800 the year. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.320 Like he played so well and talking about. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.280 Someone he looked fresh, came who came out of the 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:10.880 by looking really good. He was one of those I. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.600 Think it was a deep curl round maybe in between 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.120 two people. I don't know if it was a curl 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.280 round when I say he lays with their ball in the. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.000 How about that third down to the crosser coming on 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.160 that third down and he threw it between three people 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.640 like it was safety. It was a corner who was 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.080 trailing throwing just went like. It's like he had a 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.600 damn you know throw. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.120 He had defeited in there. And you remember who I 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.440 compared him too early in the year. I said random 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:43.080 when he put the ball that was that in the 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.600 back of the end zone, I said. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.120 Get it. First thing I saw, the first thing I 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.160 said to myself. When I saw that, I was like, well, damn, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.880 they go rand do just like and then to get 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.040 off the ground and just let it rip like that, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.440 you know what. That's just having trust and Terry's gonna 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.960 come to nine time out of ten seventeen. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.560 My due gonna come down along with I put it 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.240 in a safe space, in a good spot, and I 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.480 was like, man, this dude is out here break days. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.439 Yeah, and then that throw is amazing. That play was amazing. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.800 But then the other touchdown he had a Terarry the 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.360 one down at the other end was incredible. Just the 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.480 arm and again like he just looked fresh, he looked 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:24.080 like his rotational power was back. I mean the third 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:24.720 and one. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.440 Where you make those words of rotation of pole like 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.280 I've never heard it. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:29.160 I mean, that's what it is. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.800 It's rotational tours. Definitely what it is. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.160 And then the play that he had on that third 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.800 one where the defensive bend hits him and then he 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.280 breaks the tackles, or the fourth and one where he 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.439 jumps over the pile, the third and fifteen, like, those 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.160 are amazing plays and we're gonna do a breakdown of 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:49.000 this in the show this week. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:49.839 But problem solved. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.160 He had he had one where his his eye movement 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.760 was incredible. There's I mean, I just this was from 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.960 a quarterback stand. But again we'll talk about the eight 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.280 sacks more when we get to the offense. But the 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.800 playmaking elevation was just incredible. All right, So that's gonna 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.440 lead us. That's our kind of general thoughts. Now let's 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.480 talk about something that I think we all want to 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.600 talk about a little bit, and that's the outside kind 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.560 of adversity that we saw. And again, like tough place 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.440 to play, but also there were some there were some 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.000 calls in this game. We're not going to talk about 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.600 I hate talking about the refs. I hate talking about 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.240 the refs, but means like the like the rain, like 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.080 the wind, like the snow. They have an effect on 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.200 the game. And I think you see a market difference 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.840 between the first half and the second half of this 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.320 game because of the penalties. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.679 Yeah, the penities was there, you can't but you know, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.280 like we said, it's being X players. We don't like 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.600 the nag about it because could you send me that 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:40.600 letter the next day? 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:41.480 My bad? 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.400 Oh yeah that was that Actually shouldn't have been a penal. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.480 Well, my homeboy just got fined. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.320 It happens in this one of those things where it 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.679 was just a couple of things that made people upset. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.559 Like let's be honest, and I'm gonna have to tell 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.600 you at the end of the game, when I watched 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.679 that clock stop, I thought I. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.280 Was in the matrio. I thought I was in the 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.840 matri And then to get the remarks that we got 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.920 after was like, oh yo, we messed up. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.240 And it's a non reviewable none yet. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.040 When I say but I heard unreviewable, the first thing 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.679 came to my mind is a play where they do 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.199 take away seconds like intentional ground, like when a quarterback 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.480 intentional grounds Like I was like, you can do this 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.840 and run off the clock. You can run that clock. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.480 And so it was funny because I was watching the 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.560 game on the sideline, You're kind of looking at personnel 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.320 they're gonna get on the ball, and then Bram is 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.880 losing his mind. On the broadcast, they stopped the cock. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.839 They stopped the cock, like no. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.680 Way, they stopped the clock. And again, like it felt 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.679 like a college it really because right when they got 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.240 the first down in college and under stops and I 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:50.960 felt like the person was like, oh, let's stop the clock. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.400 And then it's like, oh, we're in the NFL. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.839 Yeah. There was things throughout the game that I was 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.440 sitting there standing myself. Bro. This reminds me of the 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.640 Chicago Bears, where it was just it wasn't everything was 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.880 going against us no matter what we did, right, they 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.160 when one good play. And so when you're in a 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.080 game like that, regardless of the officials being hard on 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.200 you or not, it's just hard to come away with 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.480 a victory. And that's why I was like so enlightened 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.520 that we did because I'm like, Bro, that was tough, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.240 but when you got three to nine. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.040 That's and I'm not saying Tana that like that, that 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:28.200 that's the that the rest perfect. But but what I 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.880 am saying is that if you look at the difference 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.640 between the defense and the first half and the second half, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.200 it's really it's really three penalties in the second half 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:37.160 extending drives. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.960 Like that's the difference, you know what I'm saying, And 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:39.480 that's really. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.840 What I'm putting out. That was like why, It's like, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.760 why is the why is the defense playing this game? 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.800 It's it's literally, you gotta get off on the field 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.000 on third down, and you have three penalties one third 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.960 and long situations that let them stay on the field. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.240 And so then the next play they find explosive play, 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.760 the one in the red zone, the one in the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.920 end zone where they get the personal file for illegal 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.400 head contact or whatever it was, there's a completion of 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.559 the tight end and then they had fifteen yards on 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.520 top of that and you're in the fifty yard line. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.920 So again, like that's one I'm pointing out that I'm 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.959 not saying like the refs are perfect little angels because 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.240 they stopped the clock with nine nine seconds ago. They 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.360 made mistakes and that's what I'm kind of well, also. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.760 I have got called for this play one hundred times 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:26.880 where we get into I'm trailing on the deep route. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.079 We'll play, We'll play. Youre talking about it. So Terry 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.240 had those three deep shots in the game and then 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.880 the last one I think, but just. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.000 The last one pop last one or something. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.000 There was the last one and the one day that 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.640 pops up and tried to go get it again. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.400 Yeah, man, I have ran. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.319 Into why I received was in the flag comes it's 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.040 a flag because no, why because you're running and I'm 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.440 trying to slow down but I'm not turning out, turning back. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:49.240 You're not looking back. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.560 Yeah. But then and again like it's so funny, it was. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.960 It was. It had a great area in there where 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.000 you can say, what he's going for the ball because 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.400 the ball was coming down as he ran into him. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:13:59.240 Yeah you see what I'm saying. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.960 But then there is the one in the end zone 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.360 with no igbinoghany where he kind of runs into pedus 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.120 and you're like they could call that, but they didn't, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.319 Thank god. You know what I mean. They's just football. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.800 And that's why I hate talking about the refs because 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.080 if you went, like, when you go back and watch 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.760 y'all twenty two, you're like, that's a hold, that's a 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.960 personal foul, that's a face like on the personal foul 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.080 in the end zone. I'm standing like literally right behind 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.400 the end zone. Frankie Luvu gets tackled by the guard 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.560 and the other guard face masks him, So like, could 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.120 you have called that? Could it have been offsetting penalties? 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.040 Absolutely could have negated that down, But it just depends 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.360 on what they can see, and I think a lot 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.040 of times they don't. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.160 It's always going to be a human area in it 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.320 because if you actually asks a machine to do that, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.520 they can cow hold it on every place. Yeah, so 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.000 it technically it's a flowl thing. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:45.960 And Tenny, you brought this up too, like you're like, oh, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.440 is that b rob Like remember that one where they 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:49.960 did the zone read and be robbed trying to block it? 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.800 Looks like he's just oh I missed him. Let me 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.800 just touch his hand. But you said being down. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.320 But at the time, I was like, if they didn't 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.080 call that, you're probably okay. If they call that, they're 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.280 also right. But it's also like that's why it's so subjective. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.720 It can be so frustrating. But I will say the 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.480 guys did a good job. I thought of handling the 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:13.000 adversity around some of these tough posts keep fighting. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.680 So also just listening to some of the players, I 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.360 believe he had sentence still after the game on the 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.920 Game Day Live show postgame show, and he seems like 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.760 man always well dressed too. I mean, he. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.440 Doesn't come in guy. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.960 Wesley Snipes dressed. Man, he's come in there with that, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.960 like you know. He was one of the no yeah, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.640 he need no brains, but no, Honestly, I think he 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.720 mentioned I'm not sure if it was him with someone 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:45.040 else mentioned it, but they mentioned that Dan prepared them, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.000 letting them know before the game, this dude just pulled. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:53.240 He just sit there and drunk nine meter Leaders of Award. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.040 But one of those guys mentioned that, Okay, that's what 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.920 it was, that he basically prepared them. Hey, these this recruit, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.000 this crew caused a lot of penalties. You know, be ready, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.520 so not to know and. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.840 You remember, like Mike, you said that too for us, No. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.320 Exactly, but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.920 to be prepared for and then to actually see it happens. Yeah, 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.320 it's a difference. So you can say, while we're sitting 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.400 here saying we get these guys full credit for overcoming it. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.840 They almost knew, you know what I mean. But it's 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.520 just the fact that you're offered by and guess what 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.560 happens normally. You know, you come out there and there's 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.280 a lot of miscues. You're gonna have those miscues, You're 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.000 gonna have those you know, those woes where you got 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.840 a guy who's out there and knew he's gonna miss 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.440 that block, or you're gonna have you know what I mean. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.840 So having all that playing to you know, come into effect, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.520 it was like I said before, I'm just pleased that 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.880 we was able to get out of there with the victim. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.680 That's that's the main thing, right is despite all of this, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.240 what say nine penalties, the four or whatever was in 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.080 big penalties, significant. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.000 Moments, unlike us. Yes, then they have we play viral. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.200 For you to come out and win this thing like 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.080 that's again, it's messy, it's ugly. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.680 Ugly jeans are needed in this world, alright, Seal is 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.760 one of the top artists in the world. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.720 Ugly great reference reference. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.120 I'm just saying the Tesla Trump is the number one 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.359 truck and it's ugly, is smooth. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.720 At the end of it balanced the force. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.040 Not everyone looking from I know everybody can't, but you 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.800 know we need these things to balance things out. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.800 Ugly wings actually to me mean more than the pretty wins. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.840 Then the forty point. We've had a taste of every 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.000 kind of win you can ask for this year. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.880 Because nobody calls the hey, noah, ugly wings. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.320 They just say, But dude, also, we gotta talk about 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.600