Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we got a
Speaker 1: Saints recap, kind of a gut check offense. I thought
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels had a fantastic game despite those eight sacks,
Speaker 1: and we talk defense the Marshawn Lattimore effect, and then
Speaker 1: we risk it for the biscuit with our Eagles preview.
Speaker 2: Ye, and do we throw the kitchen sick at them?
Speaker 2: And which is better? Fred offense deep big wrong man
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Speaker 1: And then we got a very special episode, my favorite
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Speaker 1: Welcome into the comand Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. And just remind you
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Speaker 1: that gets us right? Oh, first off, housekeeping, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: a reminder, Fred and Santana we will be doing a show.
Speaker 1: It will air on Christmas Day, yes, so make sure
Speaker 1: if you guys are you know, going to someone's.
Speaker 3: House and you're just sitting there, you want to.
Speaker 1: Talk about some football with some family and it's going
Speaker 1: to be a special episode because you have a bakeoff.
Speaker 4: Yes, we do Freddy crock Freddy Cracker, Freddy Crocker, a beating.
Speaker 1: And just a reminder of friends down by one in
Speaker 1: the series with Anna already with Anna producer Anam and
Speaker 1: she she's coming big. What are you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Uh, we're doing actually two, we're doing a cake and
Speaker 4: a wild card.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, she was at the end of the day
Speaker 2: She's like, I can't do a full platter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too much. I'm doing some devilly strawberries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for that. Man, I'm excited for them.
Speaker 3: Ain't all that good? No, no, he's saying the strawberries.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to see how you gonna make it.
Speaker 4: To think about it, instead of that cream that you
Speaker 4: lose on devily eggs, I used this.
Speaker 3: You use cheese cake, South cheesecake, so they icing and
Speaker 3: the cheesecake.
Speaker 4: The cheesecake actually, so it's cheesecake own scrawberries.
Speaker 3: But it looks like it's cutting hand.
Speaker 1: What's what's the color of that?
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward. It's gonna be red cream with a
Speaker 3: little crush to it.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, as long as it's not white,
Speaker 2: because whites.
Speaker 4: Just because of it.
Speaker 2: All right, So yeah, make sure you check that out.
Speaker 2: That'll be on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let's get to this, uh Saints recap.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a gut check win. You know, on
Speaker 1: your show postgame postgame show talking about how this was
Speaker 1: kind of a character win, character win. Let's talk about it,
Speaker 1: high level thoughts. I guess we can start with Fred
Speaker 1: because it hurts him not to talk. So Fred, high
Speaker 1: level thoughts in the game.
Speaker 3: Character win. It took all three facets.
Speaker 4: Offense dominated the first half, defense dominated a special team
Speaker 4: the second half.
Speaker 3: Situational football.
Speaker 4: We usually lose these type games, these these these last play,
Speaker 4: last drive games. They're finding ways to win them. No
Speaker 4: matter what adversity they have to go through. They found
Speaker 4: a way and not only did they do it, they
Speaker 4: did it then they and it's hard to play in
Speaker 4: New Orleans, man, Like, that's a crazy environment. So to
Speaker 4: go there and have this win, because think about it,
Speaker 4: when you get to the playoffs, the games won't be
Speaker 4: for the point wins, like they're gonna look exactly like
Speaker 4: what happened Sunday.
Speaker 3: So character win for me finding a way to win
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 4: We watch Kansas City have twelve character wins this year,
Speaker 4: like nobody talks about. But our fan base get scared
Speaker 4: and get tight when we win these tight games. When
Speaker 4: you need to be applau that your first year quarterback
Speaker 4: is learning how to win these games.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's tough to come off a
Speaker 3: buy and get a role victory period. You know, you
Speaker 3: know how tough those tho You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I mean you we played in uh you count
Speaker 3: them and name them. Were playing a lot of games
Speaker 3: out there, buy and we come out select. You come
Speaker 3: out thinking that, okay, we can just go out here
Speaker 3: and roll out here and we should be fresh. No,
Speaker 3: when the guys have a jump on you and they
Speaker 3: being able to have a game the week prior, No
Speaker 3: matter how much film you watch, it's hard to get
Speaker 3: going after that NFL speed. So I'm happy that we
Speaker 3: got the win because of that reason. Then I'm also
Speaker 3: happy because a lot of adversity happened throughout that game
Speaker 3: that we could have easy to just say, man, you
Speaker 3: know what, it's not going our way. You know, when
Speaker 3: you talked about it's hard part to playing New Orleans. No,
Speaker 3: that was that was that was New Orleans. I guess
Speaker 3: you can call that the New Orleans Commanders because it
Speaker 3: was more Commanders fans in there. At one point you
Speaker 3: never even heard the damn Saints fan. You know it
Speaker 3: was it was Terry. You heard them screaming Terry and defense.
Speaker 3: I'm like, we home, we traveled, so our fans traveled well, man.
Speaker 3: I mean the night before with the Go Go band,
Speaker 3: me and me and b Mitch went out to the
Speaker 3: Empire and you thought you was in d C somewhere.
Speaker 3: It was all Commanders fans for a reason, because if
Speaker 3: you decide how Bourbon Street and Street look after, we
Speaker 3: knew we wanted to saw you the next morning for work.
Speaker 3: So listen, means everywhere we all need. We also hit
Speaker 3: the responsible thing and was an adults and came in
Speaker 3: by eleven o'clock, so we knew Fred would have been out.
Speaker 3: We need to check that evidence. I need to check
Speaker 3: the you would have saw me and a damn lobby
Speaker 3: going up to my room. But I'm just happy man
Speaker 3: as a whole, that they was able to go up
Speaker 3: there with adversity and with everything that went on we've
Speaker 3: been on the road and still get the win, and
Speaker 3: now you can have something, you know, to be happy
Speaker 3: about looking at film this week going into one of
Speaker 3: our toughest games this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: the adversity. I think that's really good context. Like just
Speaker 1: getting the road win. That's a tough It's a tough trip, right,
Speaker 1: it's a tough trip, and so like getting the road
Speaker 1: wind is good and we're not here to like absolve
Speaker 1: them of all of any negative things that happened or
Speaker 1: things they could do better.
Speaker 2: We're just saying that's a tough win. Also, I think the.
Speaker 1: Injuries, like getting Zach Er it's hurt early, getting Tyler
Speaker 1: Beatis doesn't play, Jasey Chen gets out early.
Speaker 4: Like the wild Boards really was affected by Beyondish not
Speaker 4: being a big time.
Speaker 3: When I saw couldn't run the ball, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, this is you don't miss something to his gone,
Speaker 3: this is beyond us right here. I mean, I knew
Speaker 3: it probably gonna have a little effect, but I didn't
Speaker 3: think it was gonna He's.
Speaker 4: The anchor being in that offensive life. He's the reason
Speaker 4: the wild Boards are playing like they.
Speaker 1: And again like this will get into this morning we
Speaker 1: talk about the offense, but you know, like a more
Speaker 1: technical breakdown is like New Orlean's gotten some different fronts,
Speaker 1: like different spacings up front, and you could just tell
Speaker 1: that Deeter.
Speaker 3: Was not I couldn't see everything well.
Speaker 1: Not quite aware, and like he had a couple of
Speaker 1: mandial mistakes and and and have been been been a
Speaker 1: guy who's coming off the bench, Like unless you're prepping
Speaker 1: really hard, it can be really hard.
Speaker 3: And think about it like this, and let's put that
Speaker 3: into context. All week long, you with the scout team
Speaker 3: and then you hear game morning, game day morning, Oh
Speaker 3: you know, might be down and you got to start,
Speaker 3: and you're just like, so what he was he prepared?
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, was he did he have
Speaker 3: any inklin coming into the he might happen he didn't.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have imagine not being prepared. Like you're thinking, like, man,
Speaker 3: I work this week, I got I got this, I
Speaker 3: got Sunday off. You know, I'm good. I don't have
Speaker 3: to worry about to definitely go watch these guys go
Speaker 3: outd and dominate and then they I get the phone call, Hey,
Speaker 3: come down early. You're gonna be on the first bus
Speaker 3: because you gotta put you're gonna be the Senate the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, dude, it's uh. And it's one of those
Speaker 1: things like I think that's a really way great way
Speaker 1: to paint the picture. But like you really if you're
Speaker 1: a backup, and this is why you get paid. Backups
Speaker 1: get paid a lot of money. Yeah, you gotta prep
Speaker 1: every single week, like and it's so hard to do
Speaker 1: that because usually you get an in clean like oh,
Speaker 1: he's got a tight hamstring on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talking to each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably gonna play. But to get that illness, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be so I thought that was a great job
Speaker 1: to handle the university. The other thing I think, on
Speaker 1: kind of a brighter note is the defense is starting
Speaker 1: to come together. We're gonna talk about that more specifically
Speaker 1: in a second. And to me, I know we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a lot about Jane Daniels eight sacks, but this
Speaker 1: in watching the film was maybe his best game of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: Like he played so well and talking about.
Speaker 1: Someone he looked fresh, came who came out of the
Speaker 1: by looking really good. He was one of those I.
Speaker 4: Think it was a deep curl round maybe in between
Speaker 4: two people. I don't know if it was a curl
Speaker 4: round when I say he lays with their ball in the.
Speaker 3: How about that third down to the crosser coming on
Speaker 3: that third down and he threw it between three people
Speaker 3: like it was safety. It was a corner who was
Speaker 3: trailing throwing just went like. It's like he had a
Speaker 3: damn you know throw.
Speaker 4: He had defeited in there. And you remember who I
Speaker 4: compared him too early in the year. I said random
Speaker 4: when he put the ball that was that in the
Speaker 4: back of the end zone, I said.
Speaker 3: Get it. First thing I saw, the first thing I
Speaker 3: said to myself. When I saw that, I was like, well, damn,
Speaker 3: they go rand do just like and then to get
Speaker 3: off the ground and just let it rip like that,
Speaker 3: you know what. That's just having trust and Terry's gonna
Speaker 3: come to nine time out of ten seventeen.
Speaker 4: My due gonna come down along with I put it
Speaker 4: in a safe space, in a good spot, and I
Speaker 4: was like, man, this dude is out here break days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that throw is amazing. That play was amazing.
Speaker 1: But then the other touchdown he had a Terarry the
Speaker 1: one down at the other end was incredible. Just the
Speaker 1: arm and again like he just looked fresh, he looked
Speaker 1: like his rotational power was back. I mean the third
Speaker 1: and one.
Speaker 4: Where you make those words of rotation of pole like
Speaker 4: I've never heard it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: It's rotational tours. Definitely what it is.
Speaker 1: And then the play that he had on that third
Speaker 1: one where the defensive bend hits him and then he
Speaker 1: breaks the tackles, or the fourth and one where he
Speaker 1: jumps over the pile, the third and fifteen, like, those
Speaker 1: are amazing plays and we're gonna do a breakdown of
Speaker 1: this in the show this week.
Speaker 3: But problem solved.
Speaker 1: He had he had one where his his eye movement
Speaker 1: was incredible. There's I mean, I just this was from
Speaker 1: a quarterback stand. But again we'll talk about the eight
Speaker 1: sacks more when we get to the offense. But the
Speaker 1: playmaking elevation was just incredible. All right, So that's gonna
Speaker 1: lead us. That's our kind of general thoughts. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk about something that I think we all want to
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit, and that's the outside kind
Speaker 1: of adversity that we saw. And again, like tough place
Speaker 1: to play, but also there were some there were some
Speaker 1: calls in this game. We're not going to talk about
Speaker 1: I hate talking about the refs. I hate talking about
Speaker 1: the refs, but means like the like the rain, like
Speaker 1: the wind, like the snow. They have an effect on
Speaker 1: the game. And I think you see a market difference
Speaker 1: between the first half and the second half of this
Speaker 1: game because of the penalties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the penities was there, you can't but you know,
Speaker 4: like we said, it's being X players. We don't like
Speaker 4: the nag about it because could you send me that
Speaker 4: letter the next day?
Speaker 1: My bad?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that was that Actually shouldn't have been a penal.
Speaker 3: Well, my homeboy just got fined.
Speaker 4: It happens in this one of those things where it
Speaker 4: was just a couple of things that made people upset.
Speaker 4: Like let's be honest, and I'm gonna have to tell
Speaker 4: you at the end of the game, when I watched
Speaker 4: that clock stop, I thought I.
Speaker 3: Was in the matrio. I thought I was in the
Speaker 3: matri And then to get the remarks that we got
Speaker 3: after was like, oh yo, we messed up.
Speaker 2: And it's a non reviewable none yet.
Speaker 4: When I say but I heard unreviewable, the first thing
Speaker 4: came to my mind is a play where they do
Speaker 4: take away seconds like intentional ground, like when a quarterback
Speaker 4: intentional grounds Like I was like, you can do this
Speaker 4: and run off the clock. You can run that clock.
Speaker 1: And so it was funny because I was watching the
Speaker 1: game on the sideline, You're kind of looking at personnel
Speaker 1: they're gonna get on the ball, and then Bram is
Speaker 1: losing his mind. On the broadcast, they stopped the cock.
Speaker 3: They stopped the cock, like no.
Speaker 1: Way, they stopped the clock. And again, like it felt
Speaker 1: like a college it really because right when they got
Speaker 1: the first down in college and under stops and I
Speaker 1: felt like the person was like, oh, let's stop the clock.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh, we're in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah. There was things throughout the game that I was
Speaker 3: sitting there standing myself. Bro. This reminds me of the
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, where it was just it wasn't everything was
Speaker 3: going against us no matter what we did, right, they
Speaker 3: when one good play. And so when you're in a
Speaker 3: game like that, regardless of the officials being hard on
Speaker 3: you or not, it's just hard to come away with
Speaker 3: a victory. And that's why I was like so enlightened
Speaker 3: that we did because I'm like, Bro, that was tough,
Speaker 3: but when you got three to nine.
Speaker 1: That's and I'm not saying Tana that like that, that
Speaker 1: that's the that the rest perfect. But but what I
Speaker 1: am saying is that if you look at the difference
Speaker 1: between the defense and the first half and the second half,
Speaker 1: it's really it's really three penalties in the second half
Speaker 1: extending drives.
Speaker 2: Like that's the difference, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 2: that's really.
Speaker 1: What I'm putting out. That was like why, It's like,
Speaker 1: why is the why is the defense playing this game?
Speaker 1: It's it's literally, you gotta get off on the field
Speaker 1: on third down, and you have three penalties one third
Speaker 1: and long situations that let them stay on the field.
Speaker 1: And so then the next play they find explosive play,
Speaker 1: the one in the red zone, the one in the
Speaker 1: end zone where they get the personal file for illegal
Speaker 1: head contact or whatever it was, there's a completion of
Speaker 1: the tight end and then they had fifteen yards on
Speaker 1: top of that and you're in the fifty yard line.
Speaker 1: So again, like that's one I'm pointing out that I'm
Speaker 1: not saying like the refs are perfect little angels because
Speaker 1: they stopped the clock with nine nine seconds ago. They
Speaker 1: made mistakes and that's what I'm kind of well, also.
Speaker 4: I have got called for this play one hundred times
Speaker 4: where we get into I'm trailing on the deep route.
Speaker 1: We'll play, We'll play. Youre talking about it. So Terry
Speaker 1: had those three deep shots in the game and then
Speaker 1: the last one I think, but just.
Speaker 4: The last one pop last one or something.
Speaker 3: There was the last one and the one day that
Speaker 3: pops up and tried to go get it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I have ran.
Speaker 3: Into why I received was in the flag comes it's
Speaker 3: a flag because no, why because you're running and I'm
Speaker 3: trying to slow down but I'm not turning out, turning back.
Speaker 3: You're not looking back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then and again like it's so funny, it was.
Speaker 3: It was. It had a great area in there where
Speaker 3: you can say, what he's going for the ball because
Speaker 3: the ball was coming down as he ran into him.
Speaker 3: Yeah you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then there is the one in the end zone
Speaker 1: with no igbinoghany where he kind of runs into pedus
Speaker 1: and you're like they could call that, but they didn't,
Speaker 1: Thank god. You know what I mean. They's just football.
Speaker 1: And that's why I hate talking about the refs because
Speaker 1: if you went, like, when you go back and watch
Speaker 1: y'all twenty two, you're like, that's a hold, that's a
Speaker 1: personal foul, that's a face like on the personal foul
Speaker 1: in the end zone. I'm standing like literally right behind
Speaker 1: the end zone. Frankie Luvu gets tackled by the guard
Speaker 1: and the other guard face masks him, So like, could
Speaker 1: you have called that? Could it have been offsetting penalties?
Speaker 1: Absolutely could have negated that down, But it just depends
Speaker 1: on what they can see, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of times they don't.
Speaker 4: It's always going to be a human area in it
Speaker 4: because if you actually asks a machine to do that,
Speaker 4: they can cow hold it on every place. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: it technically it's a flowl thing.
Speaker 1: And Tenny, you brought this up too, like you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: is that b rob Like remember that one where they
Speaker 1: did the zone read and be robbed trying to block it?
Speaker 3: Looks like he's just oh I missed him. Let me
Speaker 3: just touch his hand. But you said being down.
Speaker 1: But at the time, I was like, if they didn't
Speaker 1: call that, you're probably okay. If they call that, they're
Speaker 1: also right. But it's also like that's why it's so subjective.
Speaker 1: It can be so frustrating. But I will say the
Speaker 1: guys did a good job. I thought of handling the
Speaker 1: adversity around some of these tough posts keep fighting.
Speaker 3: So also just listening to some of the players, I
Speaker 3: believe he had sentence still after the game on the
Speaker 3: Game Day Live show postgame show, and he seems like
Speaker 3: man always well dressed too. I mean, he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't come in guy.
Speaker 3: Wesley Snipes dressed. Man, he's come in there with that,
Speaker 3: like you know. He was one of the no yeah,
Speaker 3: he need no brains, but no, Honestly, I think he
Speaker 3: mentioned I'm not sure if it was him with someone
Speaker 3: else mentioned it, but they mentioned that Dan prepared them,
Speaker 3: letting them know before the game, this dude just pulled.
Speaker 3: He just sit there and drunk nine meter Leaders of Award.
Speaker 3: But one of those guys mentioned that, Okay, that's what
Speaker 3: it was, that he basically prepared them. Hey, these this recruit,
Speaker 3: this crew caused a lot of penalties. You know, be ready,
Speaker 3: so not to know and.
Speaker 1: You remember, like Mike, you said that too for us, No.
Speaker 3: Exactly, but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: to be prepared for and then to actually see it happens. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a difference. So you can say, while we're sitting
Speaker 3: here saying we get these guys full credit for overcoming it.
Speaker 3: They almost knew, you know what I mean. But it's
Speaker 3: just the fact that you're offered by and guess what
Speaker 3: happens normally. You know, you come out there and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of miscues. You're gonna have those miscues, You're
Speaker 3: gonna have those you know, those woes where you got
Speaker 3: a guy who's out there and knew he's gonna miss
Speaker 3: that block, or you're gonna have you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So having all that playing to you know, come into effect,
Speaker 3: it was like I said before, I'm just pleased that
Speaker 3: we was able to get out of there with the victim.
Speaker 1: That's that's the main thing, right is despite all of this,
Speaker 1: what say nine penalties, the four or whatever was in
Speaker 1: big penalties, significant.
Speaker 3: Moments, unlike us. Yes, then they have we play viral.
Speaker 1: For you to come out and win this thing like
Speaker 1: that's again, it's messy, it's ugly.
Speaker 4: Ugly jeans are needed in this world, alright, Seal is
Speaker 4: one of the top artists in the world.
Speaker 3: Ugly great reference reference.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying the Tesla Trump is the number one
Speaker 4: truck and it's ugly, is smooth.
Speaker 3: At the end of it balanced the force.
Speaker 4: Not everyone looking from I know everybody can't, but you
Speaker 4: know we need these things to balance things out.
Speaker 3: Ugly wings actually to me mean more than the pretty wins.
Speaker 3: Then the forty point. We've had a taste of every
Speaker 3: kind of win you can ask for this year.
Speaker 4: Because nobody calls the hey, noah, ugly wings.
Speaker 1: They just say, But dude, also, we gotta talk about
Speaker 1: this real quick and again, how many times have we
Speaker 1: seen a team drive down score and then get the
Speaker 1: two point conversion on that stupid sprint pass to the
Speaker 1: right and great by and also Spencer Ratler could not
Speaker 1: have thrown that ball any harder. Yeah, like you threw
Speaker 1: that thing like.
Speaker 3: I'm always ready for that. That's the go to And
Speaker 3: I know why he does. I don't run that so much.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 4: I know why they run it. It's to get to
Speaker 4: make sure the quarterback don't get sacked after.
Speaker 3: Because you know what to also happens. I was watching it.
Speaker 3: When I saw it, I say, watch for the gall
Speaker 3: on the back back line. Normally, when you don't get
Speaker 3: that guy back out. Yeah. So I've been both guys.
Speaker 3: I've been the slot guy that scored off and I've
Speaker 3: been the guy that run the end route on the
Speaker 3: back line. And what normally happened is if Raley don't
Speaker 3: have that that right now out route the back line guy,
Speaker 3: everybody think I'm coming in on a basic and I
Speaker 3: can just slide back to the corner of the end
Speaker 3: zone and boom. I thought I was actually gonna throw
Speaker 3: a throw back.
Speaker 4: I thought they go ahead, somebody else coming in the
Speaker 4: tight end sit on the back side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so many things. It's so many open guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so many ways you can hear the
Speaker 3: open gown that if you design it right. And I
Speaker 3: think one of the things I loved about when Caldom
Speaker 3: brought in, they had different guys getting it off of
Speaker 3: that same motion, that same look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about the defense real quick, because
Speaker 1: we just talked about that play. Really, I think, I
Speaker 1: think for most people it feels like a tale of
Speaker 1: two halves. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we talked about how those three pen of
Speaker 4: thees changed.
Speaker 1: I mean everything, I will say this, so to me,
Speaker 1: that's that's the number one driver in the first half.
Speaker 1: You get a penalty that negates an explosive play. Yeah, mvs.
Speaker 1: Marcus Valdescaling drops a big dig. Yeah, that would have
Speaker 1: been a first down. It's supposed to play, so they
Speaker 1: drop that. He drops it out. That would have been
Speaker 1: a first down. They got a penalty that negates a
Speaker 1: big chunk play. Again, that keeps you on schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say this watching the All twenty two they
Speaker 1: are rushing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so well right.
Speaker 4: Any of it has to do with the fact you
Speaker 4: got a cone out there, they got it.
Speaker 3: That's taking away half the field.
Speaker 1: Dude, you would appreciate this Tennis. So I get to
Speaker 1: watch him like in person and seeing him and again
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the best cornerback of all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like watching him move, watching his strength, watching his awareness,
Speaker 1: like watching how he plays to his leverage. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what this should look like. And again he's not
Speaker 1: going against the good, great receivers, but like like someone
Speaker 1: tried to run a fade on him. Janlemin thrown his
Speaker 1: scrimmage and the dude almost fell down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what us stands out when you
Speaker 3: don't have the targets. You can really never really tell
Speaker 3: if a guy played well, not with you know a
Speaker 3: lot of more. I literally watched him and said, that's
Speaker 3: why he gets what he gets, and that's why he's
Speaker 3: recognized the way he is, you know, as one of
Speaker 3: the as one of the top guys in his lead,
Speaker 3: because it's not only the way he played it, it
Speaker 3: was like he had he always had the leverage, he
Speaker 3: was always on top, he was always there. And it
Speaker 3: was at one time Raptor looked over there like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me go over here because he was practice, which
Speaker 3: he said there nodded his head at him, like come on,
Speaker 3: come on over here, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: that's what I got to kick out of, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, just to see him sit there like, no,
Speaker 3: come on, I'm waiting. I'm right here.
Speaker 4: I was even more in print with Mikey Sanders Steel
Speaker 4: because I've been in that corner that once you got it,
Speaker 4: that all pro on the other side coming at you,
Speaker 4: you coming at you, Do you got do you got
Speaker 4: the intentional for the two to make him.
Speaker 3: Throw back, and he almost had almost had to. So
Speaker 3: I'm more impressed with Mikey said on.
Speaker 1: That second one who what was what was that receiver thinking?
Speaker 1: I wanted them his own?
Speaker 4: And he saw the man coming in the whole town
Speaker 4: hate it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what that's bad? Offensive? I love it, and
Speaker 3: I love first thing I said this, I know you ain't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: why would you sit down? Right? So Santa is still
Speaker 3: running with them the entire time, like, bro, I don't
Speaker 3: see green grass keep.
Speaker 1: Running to and I was like, again, like I'm an
Speaker 1: offensive player. I look at it from I was. I
Speaker 1: was for that guy. I was like, what is your
Speaker 1: what is your problem?
Speaker 3: And it was so crazy because Santa still kept running
Speaker 3: and he tried to come on the other side. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he just got his hand in there. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: damn boy.
Speaker 1: A player.
Speaker 3: By god, he looked good.
Speaker 1: But so the other thing too that was really interesting
Speaker 1: watching was like they'd get into these okay here NERD
Speaker 1: alert ready, Okay, So they'd get in these different coverage
Speaker 1: structures right and before the safety has to be directly
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, so they're playing match.
Speaker 1: So like let's say it's empty and there's two receivers
Speaker 1: still left, and there's three receivers, right, So they used
Speaker 1: to kind of play directly post safety, they'd lock the
Speaker 1: two receiver sides, so play man on that side and
Speaker 1: then have like three over two and then the post
Speaker 1: safety kind of help both. In this game, he is
Speaker 1: to the three receiver side, so they're getting four over three,
Speaker 1: which is exactly how you want to play it. They're
Speaker 1: locking that down and again that's giving you confidence because
Speaker 1: Latimore was out there right, that's what that guy does.
Speaker 4: It changes the way coach Cole's game he's been called.
Speaker 1: It's not even it's like this. It's the same coverage
Speaker 1: and maybe you can speak to this friend, but now
Speaker 1: they can just say, hey, I can push over here more.
Speaker 4: Now it's more of now I can dictate the calls
Speaker 4: instead of being dictated by that.
Speaker 3: Also, I also love the fact that we was we
Speaker 3: was in the know. We didn't know we you know,
Speaker 3: you said that you thought that when this this, I
Speaker 3: guess you can say change or this trade happened. You
Speaker 3: saw Santa still stand inside. I said, no, he's gonna
Speaker 3: stay outside because been playing his behind off inside. But
Speaker 3: santa'st is one of those guys. He's interchangeable, nothing that
Speaker 3: he can play both. But when you when you watched
Speaker 3: him earlier, this year. He's playing beyond his years on
Speaker 3: the outside, So why would I swap him and make
Speaker 3: him have to you know, start the question was who
Speaker 3: was going to be in the rotation?
Speaker 4: And we got the answer yeah. To those questions and
Speaker 4: how they're gonna be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think with center still like, he does
Speaker 1: have limitations outside, so I think ultimately hemps inside at
Speaker 1: some point in his career. But I do think to
Speaker 1: Tanni's point, you see a guy who's confident, who understands leverage,
Speaker 1: who understands.
Speaker 3: Concepts, and it's and it's really received.
Speaker 1: He's a confident player. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He understands two things, route concepts and down and distance.
Speaker 4: He plays the sticks. He also plays situational football very well.
Speaker 4: And that's because he's been coached by jud Harball.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jim I one of them.
Speaker 4: I've been coached by Hobball, and he taught him the
Speaker 4: small things. I could always tell how good a cornerback
Speaker 4: is going to be by.
Speaker 3: Those two things.
Speaker 4: I mean, do he have stick awareness and do he
Speaker 4: understand how they attack me? I understood I don't give
Speaker 4: up gold routes. My route gonna be comeback, bro. I
Speaker 4: have to learn how to stop comebacks.
Speaker 3: That's corner back in one on one Like if you
Speaker 3: don't know situational football, you don't know. Okay, I can
Speaker 3: play this way because I have help inside. I can
Speaker 3: play this way because I have the line, I have
Speaker 3: the sideline to my favorite I can I can put
Speaker 3: this push this guy as far as I want to
Speaker 3: to the outside. Like when I watched Corners, I'm watching
Speaker 3: thinking like what was done to me as a receiver
Speaker 3: to guys who knew, who had awareness, who knew how
Speaker 3: to play the game. Even if you wasn't one of
Speaker 3: the best. You just knew where your leverage was at
Speaker 3: and not. And when I watch guys who don't understand that,
Speaker 3: that's why I get. And when I'm watching the game, like, Bro,
Speaker 3: you have to know Jill Levers was here, why would
Speaker 3: you be in there? You understand? So when I saw
Speaker 3: those guys playing earlier this year, I knew automatically that
Speaker 3: Sanders still had all those clues. He knew, he checked
Speaker 3: all those boxes. This guy knew how to play that
Speaker 3: fade in the ends on against the Ravens. He knew
Speaker 3: how to play, and like every other game, he was
Speaker 3: getting tested. When we played some of the best guys
Speaker 3: chase all those guys. You saw this guy stand up
Speaker 3: and then not only that, the way he brought it
Speaker 3: when he had a runner coming his way, like when
Speaker 3: you when that ball was tossed his direction. He wouldn't
Speaker 3: sit back there patting his feet. He downhill, come out here.
Speaker 4: And he tackles well extremely Yeah.
Speaker 1: So obviously in the back end played really really well.
Speaker 1: You know, Jeviy chennear line of scrimmage, played wall Kwan's
Speaker 1: doing his thing. But I will say man like, obviously
Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Saints, specifically Trevor Penning the
Speaker 1: right tackle, Yeah, struggled a little bit. But Dante Fowler
Speaker 1: rushing really well, Say dude, Bobby Wagner blitzing, is blitzing
Speaker 1: really well. Frankie Luvu's rushing.
Speaker 4: I see Chan playing a lot lower now that you
Speaker 4: got the corner out there, a lot more cover three, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been say a lot.
Speaker 3: More closed middle field and let's go giggle.
Speaker 1: But it was cool like going through the film and
Speaker 1: being like, oh, this is a pressure, this is a sack,
Speaker 1: this is a hurry, and like just how frenetic that
Speaker 1: group is watching pain win one on one, watching Jizan
Speaker 1: When one on one was like it was like it
Speaker 1: felt like a lot like last year when you turned
Speaker 1: on Dallas tape, you'd be like, man, this group up
Speaker 1: front is just juiced, and there was a lot of
Speaker 1: shades of that in this game, which was really really cool,
Speaker 1: and I think like that gets me excited going into
Speaker 1: Philly honestly, like is the the level of energy that
Speaker 1: they're playing with and and the coverages they can play.
Speaker 4: But but the injuries, like listen, we cannot talk the truth,
Speaker 4: zach Ertz, Yeah, talk about their kitchen.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: That was incredible that I literally was on the broadcast.
Speaker 1: I don't talk unless Ram calls me, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my, I like literally couldn't contain myself.
Speaker 4: And it didn't move stuck right there. But I seen
Speaker 4: him come down and hit that turf and I didn't
Speaker 4: know what. I thought it was his shoulder.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, this shoulder when he when
Speaker 3: he went to limb, I said, damn yeah, cushion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guess what concussions that they come in different flavors,
Speaker 4: because chin, listen, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Listen to me.
Speaker 1: Did you see it on the replay? How it like
Speaker 1: it like ricochet like Forrest hit n v S like ricochet.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know he literally hit h
Speaker 1: Forrest hit mvs and n b S has had ricochet
Speaker 1: so hard.
Speaker 3: And yes, and I was going to say we saw
Speaker 3: DFOU sight in it and yeah, look out there and
Speaker 3: come on default. But but to DFO, I think D
Speaker 3: four will be ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah this week especially, I mean you, I mean you
Speaker 1: hope again, Like usually concussion is about a week, so
Speaker 1: it'll be a little bit h hit or missing play.
Speaker 3: And what about Tyler Horns when we get a title.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think you DFO first. I think Tyler
Speaker 2: Owens is.
Speaker 3: Doing you know, they do a good job rotting to
Speaker 3: make sure your boy from raising cajun.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, person, Butler he was. He played a little bit.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of multiple That's another thing too,
Speaker 1: another kind of nerdy thing is they played a lot
Speaker 1: of like for safeties, played time, playing a lot of
Speaker 1: different personnels out there.
Speaker 4: So that's something they go out against two quarterbacks that
Speaker 4: haven't seen a lot of football.
Speaker 3: You want to show them everything you can show them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll talk more about the injuries when we
Speaker 1: get to the Philly preview. But that's definitely gonna be
Speaker 1: someth we're talking about. Let's talk about the offense real quick.
Speaker 1: This is the second week in a row. They've had
Speaker 1: more than seventy plus plays in our second game in
Speaker 1: a row. Excuse to buy so seventy four offensive plays
Speaker 1: two weeks ago against Tennessee seventy seven plays. They seem
Speaker 1: this is this game is hard for me to watch
Speaker 1: because when you watch the run tape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say bad like and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be mean, but it was.
Speaker 4: It had to do with the rial boards. Starts with
Speaker 4: them and everything start with the center. I could tell
Speaker 4: the center calls was not I can tell the protections
Speaker 4: with the like be honist to me as a pro
Speaker 4: Bowl player, I think he had Bowl.
Speaker 3: Year that game right that solidified that.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, this guy right there sets the
Speaker 4: standard when it comes to this. And let's be honest,
Speaker 4: this was probably the worst game COVID has had.
Speaker 3: The Ricky you don't think that boy, Chase young boy
Speaker 3: he because.
Speaker 4: We talked with Range. It was a couple of guys
Speaker 4: that had revenge on their mind. Ridgeway revenge on his mind,
Speaker 4: Young Ridge like Ridgeway played like you cut me before
Speaker 4: and I'm mad.
Speaker 3: And to me, he was one of those guys. He
Speaker 3: was a couch. He was a casualty of war because
Speaker 3: I feel like he was just one of those guys
Speaker 3: where we want we we we we need you, but
Speaker 3: we need others. Yeah, so we gotta get rid of
Speaker 3: the numbers game. Yeah it's numbers game. But I'm I
Speaker 3: say this though, going into the game, what I said,
Speaker 3: I wanted to see five be five from earlier this year,
Speaker 3: and I thought he was. And he got us out
Speaker 3: of danger a lot with his legs and he had
Speaker 3: a lot of he eight up for all the stuff
Speaker 3: that we didn't do with b Robin Feler, you know
Speaker 3: b Robin Crew, And that was that was the bright
Speaker 3: spot I think about our run game, having him be
Speaker 3: able to be as fresh back to hisself, being able
Speaker 3: to escape you know when things got dark and cloudy
Speaker 3: back there. That gave it.
Speaker 4: How did you feel watching Terry come up three inches
Speaker 4: short of breaking all your single season record. He's supposed
Speaker 4: to leave out of there with two hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: yards and five tests that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, he probably won all my records,
Speaker 3: but he's chucked me. He's checking off boxes. Every time
Speaker 3: I'm watching the game, I'm like, bro, just get him
Speaker 3: in all of them because he's he's on fire right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have had crazy statistic from the game
Speaker 1: because you're on the broadcast. They do a great job
Speaker 1: with the stats. So before he had those last three
Speaker 1: deep balls, there were nineteen of the last twenty targets
Speaker 1: to Terry. I've been completions for five touchdowns? Wow, can you.
Speaker 3: Believe in nineteen of the last twenty it could have
Speaker 3: been eight? What I'm saying like he's wanted to have
Speaker 3: at least three more touchdown? Yeah. Yeah, this that I
Speaker 3: found that when I saw the one that he when
Speaker 3: he had the post and he was kind of like
Speaker 3: looking for and so he slowed down.
Speaker 1: Was it was dagger. It was like the one you
Speaker 1: caught against Phil and it was man coverage.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 4: And right now, because you can tell he didn't yeah,
Speaker 4: you can tell all the stuff people have said about
Speaker 4: Terry what he ain't all it is to me right now,
Speaker 4: that's Chevy running. Yeah, because I didn't watch him runs y'all,
Speaker 4: But y'all was here, we was doing the show. When
Speaker 4: when when when the summer had just ended for them
Speaker 4: far as you know, O T A. And I was like,
Speaker 4: y'all saw Terry today and you love Terry. Y'all said,
Speaker 4: that's him out there running. What I said when you
Speaker 4: when you were locked in like that.
Speaker 3: I've been that player. I've been the guy man guess
Speaker 3: what threw everything. I'm finna go out here and get
Speaker 3: these rests by myself. They count. They show up through
Speaker 3: the season. And that's why I say, as players, you
Speaker 3: can almost dictate when you was going to have a
Speaker 3: good season or not, as long as you stay healthy.
Speaker 3: You knew from the preparation the things I did prior
Speaker 3: to the season started by how many times I went
Speaker 3: out there extra by myself. I always knew coming into
Speaker 3: a season when I got off the couch at night
Speaker 3: and say, I'm goa go run this round the world thing.
Speaker 3: I had this thing called around the world. Back at home,
Speaker 3: I would leave my house and I would just go
Speaker 3: jog down the sidewalk and I go far. I'm on
Speaker 3: the main street and I would do that. And it
Speaker 3: took a lot to do that because you don't need
Speaker 3: to do it. That was extra. I always said, when
Speaker 3: I did that, before camp and came into camp ready
Speaker 3: for my little test that we had to run, and
Speaker 3: I was I was to the point of where I
Speaker 3: wasn't feeling I wasn't scared about that test. I was
Speaker 3: gonna have a good season. And so that's why I
Speaker 3: say players got to start playing tricks with their self.
Speaker 4: If you want to have a good year, go do
Speaker 4: stuff that you didn't normally do. And that's you know,
Speaker 4: you put the work in already. Ain't no second guessing
Speaker 4: what's gonna have.
Speaker 3: Putting the work in is one thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: My son talked to me about this all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh well I practice, Yeah, but now you home, go
Speaker 3: get in some more. What's working about the work that
Speaker 3: comes what we did on the practice field, because now
Speaker 3: you're doing something you attacking a Knicks level of stuff right now, ye.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And so again the run game wasn't great.
Speaker 1: There was I think there was a lot of different fronts,
Speaker 1: miss targets. Yeah, I think there was some like they
Speaker 1: got out physical a little bit at points, which is
Speaker 1: not something I want to see from that group. But again,
Speaker 1: hopefully they learned from this.
Speaker 4: And I thought we ran to the edges and little
Speaker 4: too much. That was something that did you see what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, dude, because we especially with b Rob, we've
Speaker 4: been running down he'll with it.
Speaker 3: We have a mid I totally understand.
Speaker 4: But I did like seeing them throw the ball to
Speaker 4: the Rob, which we haven't took advantage of this year,
Speaker 4: which I think he can think now.
Speaker 3: When you have Echola out, you have you have it
Speaker 3: showed you that last year, and I was wondering why
Speaker 3: we didn't do it more this year, like you have
Speaker 3: to use both. I think it's one thing of having
Speaker 3: a guy that say, Okay, this guy can catch the
Speaker 3: ball in the backfield. Well that's the surprise you sometimes.
Speaker 3: All right, let's throw it to the guy.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm want to be shocked to see him part
Speaker 4: of the screen game going against Philly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so uh the other thing too, and Tanda
Speaker 1: talked about this, like I know, we talked about Jade
Speaker 1: as a runner like this was maybe his again, like
Speaker 1: the arm looks like it's back, like Twan throws, like
Speaker 1: the touch bow touchdowns to Terry. He had a he
Speaker 1: had a play versus Cover two where it's Tampa two.
Speaker 1: There's a flat player, they're running a corner and a
Speaker 1: SIPs like smash, you know, and he stares down the smash,
Speaker 1: so the corner attaches and just drills that corner to Terry.
Speaker 1: He has that ball that he throws at theami.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Crazy throw and they end up calling that back penalty.
Speaker 1: But like there were so many throws. You're watching the tape,
Speaker 1: You're like, man.
Speaker 3: How about that clutch third down? That crowded court in
Speaker 3: between those two crowded just.
Speaker 4: Like crowd gonna be the guy that steps up, no doubt,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the guy that said, Okay, it's a
Speaker 4: board here, I tell you what's doing it.
Speaker 3: I felt so good to see eighty on the field
Speaker 3: because I just knew, like, that's a veterans, that's a
Speaker 3: veteran president football. Yeah, he's he's like, he's like, what
Speaker 3: the guy is Jame Thrash. He's saying, like, you know
Speaker 3: how when Kansas City got your boy d Hot, you
Speaker 3: just knew, like now they receivers, are they in good hands? Yea?
Speaker 3: And he knows how to play football. But that's what
Speaker 3: crowd he saw crowded even on the pump return me
Speaker 3: and be miss talking about we was critiquing that first
Speaker 3: pump return when he got outside that wave, I said,
Speaker 3: you put that foot in the ground. Now he wanted
Speaker 3: to worry about be jumping over that guy because he
Speaker 3: kind of around it so much he didn't realize it
Speaker 3: was going to be that open. But that's just getting
Speaker 3: back into the floor of things. So I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: you you in good hands when ad out there on
Speaker 3: the field. So anytime they want to suit him up,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll be all right offensively and and special team.
Speaker 1: And we're kind of gushing or I'm gushing about Jane Daniels.
Speaker 1: And then obviously the sacks, let's just touch on him
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 4: A couple of them was his fault. I give him
Speaker 4: that for holding the bottle. Yeah, he had it.
Speaker 3: I was thinking also it was because of the covers
Speaker 3: that he was getting, I mean money.
Speaker 4: They actually blitched him to me more than any team
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 3: Like I saw people coming off the edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he hadn't been seeing that because what I
Speaker 4: tell you, people don't usually blitch running quarterbacks a lot,
Speaker 4: and they did.
Speaker 3: They came with fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again like he had one early and when
Speaker 1: he missed the checkdown, he should have thrown a choice
Speaker 1: on one holding the ball too long, but then three
Speaker 1: of the three of the eight sacks were on keepers
Speaker 1: and boots, and so I think that's like he's young
Speaker 1: and he's learning, and I think Dan and his presser
Speaker 1: yesterday was basically like, we gotta we got to get
Speaker 1: him to know, like when the journey's over over real?
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, at least I said a two many times,
Speaker 3: you know, be misplayed, quarterback, be missed, get rid of
Speaker 3: the book. It's over, like trying to make something out
Speaker 3: of nothing. It's not there.
Speaker 1: And that being said, like when you go watch the film,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of times where he elevates the offensive
Speaker 1: line by sitting in there making the throw. He scrambles
Speaker 1: out of something, so like it's a balance with him
Speaker 1: because he's such a dynamic playmaker. But when I tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: watching the film with this dude, I just I was
Speaker 1: so impressed. And again it's cool to see that version
Speaker 1: of him going into Philly, which I'm excited about.
Speaker 4: Y'all should be y'all should be shocked that this is
Speaker 4: the first time he's had a game like this, because
Speaker 4: usually for any great offensive line, when you when you
Speaker 4: have a quarterback with wheels like his is. It's where's
Speaker 4: wild though, So sometimes my blocking pattern changes because I
Speaker 4: don't know where this kid is, so I think, but
Speaker 4: this to be the first time we see this this
Speaker 4: late in the season says a lot about who he is,
Speaker 4: all right, because it's hard to block for a running quarterback. Man,
Speaker 4: I just seen offensive lineman really like get mad because
Speaker 4: I can't find my my quarterback and he not where
Speaker 4: we think he's.
Speaker 1: Going to be, all right. So that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: on our recap. Anything else you guys want to say
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Nothing. Now we got the Saints in the rear view mirror,
Speaker 3: remate Saints in.
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Speaker 1: when he uses as our Eagles preview this week, Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay in this game, this is divisional game, big game.
Speaker 1: I think maybe the Eagles are the best team in
Speaker 1: football right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are playing the best because I one of
Speaker 4: the reason I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 3: Especially in the NFC default and Hurt, they just beat
Speaker 3: up the I think right now, I got I got
Speaker 3: three teams up there that's looking real good. Besides, you
Speaker 3: know us when it comes to I don't want to
Speaker 3: be buys and talk about us, but when it's talking
Speaker 3: about playing playing great right now as a whole, I
Speaker 3: have Green Bay. Oh, I have Minnesota, but then I
Speaker 3: have I have Philly. What about like the Bells. I
Speaker 3: know the Bills are phenomenal Bills. What they did tow was, uh,
Speaker 3: that was different.
Speaker 4: But I also accounted that for the fact that the
Speaker 4: true what on their defense only have three starters from
Speaker 4: the first game of the year.
Speaker 3: And that's different. Now.
Speaker 4: Even though branch is playing out his mind, safety playing
Speaker 4: out his mind is how I know the next man
Speaker 4: up thing.
Speaker 3: But when you start.
Speaker 4: Getting too third and fourth screen like it's gonna be
Speaker 4: hard to beat team.
Speaker 3: And when I started running back go down knowing how
Speaker 3: much he mean, Montgomery meant yeah, like damn yo, yeah,
Speaker 3: nine knuckles is gone. Yeah yeah, I mean because he's
Speaker 3: like the Tannis point.
Speaker 1: He dry like he is a.
Speaker 3: B rob when he read zone and he's plowing, he's
Speaker 3: getting that, he's wearing them down.
Speaker 4: So when Jamiir Gibbs get in there, I hit you
Speaker 4: with this treat. It breaks you down. So now Jamire
Speaker 4: gotta be the full time back.
Speaker 3: Can he told the load?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely so. I guess thinking back to the
Speaker 1: last game we played them, which was I guess how
Speaker 1: many weeks ago, now three weeks ago? What what do
Speaker 1: you think needs to hop? Like, you know, producer Jason
Speaker 1: was kind of like, do you need to throw the
Speaker 1: kitchen synk at these guys because it is a game.
Speaker 1: You gotta get a win, try to make the playoffs
Speaker 1: all those kind of things, like do you need to
Speaker 1: go to that level.
Speaker 4: If I'm a coach and I watched that first game,
Speaker 4: I am really feeling good about this game, like this
Speaker 4: is why. But we was there with them with like
Speaker 4: six minutes left in the fourth quarter. This is a brawl,
Speaker 4: bare Knucker brawl, dirty mattress wrestling contest. We out here
Speaker 4: giving it to them. Say Kwan breaks the two runs,
Speaker 4: breaks down the defense. Defense on the field too long.
Speaker 4: We gotta understand. We got to hold the ball on
Speaker 4: the offense. Our offense made plays on the number one
Speaker 4: defense in football right now. We made mistakes on special team.
Speaker 4: We did these things all open the door. Here come
Speaker 4: Marsha and Ladimer. I got somebody for your aff a
Speaker 4: receiver right here. I matchups are better, and they come
Speaker 4: to us like dad home field advantage, and we almost
Speaker 4: beat them at home. I'm not changing too much of
Speaker 4: my game, ain't playing defensively. I just know I can't
Speaker 4: let twenty six meet me. I would rather put the
Speaker 4: hand the ball in the hands of Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 4: say go out here and beat me, because I think
Speaker 4: he's more prone to make a mistake than Saquon is
Speaker 4: to beat me. I feel good if I'm part of
Speaker 4: this coaching staff right now.
Speaker 3: I you know, being that we are in that season,
Speaker 3: that time of year, it can't be no one Horsey,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It gotta be everybody carrying
Speaker 3: their own week. You know, we complimentary football has to
Speaker 3: be sound. This week, I believe that all facets had
Speaker 3: to go out there and play their best. And I
Speaker 3: think that's what we saw last Audi. The defense stood
Speaker 3: in and they stood strong. They been, but they didn't break,
Speaker 3: and they stopped these guys. And these guys kicked field
Speaker 3: goals and missed a couple them, and offensively, we just
Speaker 3: didn't show up to the party, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We didn't show up enough, I can say. So this
Speaker 3: week I got to be one of those focuses. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure Dan's gonna probably word it differently, but hey man,
Speaker 3: I need everybody's best. You said, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: what you just said.
Speaker 4: Really you were talking about also availability, right, well, Saquon
Speaker 4: is limp into this game, My boy, big play slaves
Speaker 4: limping into this game. So they have their als too,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's gonna be. But
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna.
Speaker 3: Say he gonna win. You know what, I never get
Speaker 3: into the big I guess you could say I never
Speaker 3: make trying to make points about individual players when you're
Speaker 3: playing games like this, because this is when even those
Speaker 3: guys off the bench come ready. You know what, I mean,
Speaker 3: preparation even goes up. You know, each man got to
Speaker 3: look at watch a little more film because you never
Speaker 3: know you might be thrown, you might be called upon
Speaker 3: this heeak, you see what I'm saying. So that's why
Speaker 3: I look into these games like, man, I care less.
Speaker 3: If you a first year guy, second year guy, a
Speaker 3: guy that's on the practice squad, squad, a guy that's
Speaker 3: been preparing everybody else to go, you need to watch
Speaker 3: that Felm this week because you might get your shot
Speaker 3: if need be. But everybody, I'm talking about the trainers,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the people that's feeding these guys this week.
Speaker 3: Everybody gotta have their a game going into a game
Speaker 3: like this because this is somebody we talked about heavyweight
Speaker 3: bouts before. Now this is it. This is for our division,
Speaker 3: and this is gonna be one of those moments we
Speaker 3: can take these guys down and tie this thing in
Speaker 3: our division. Man, you never know how things pan out,
Speaker 3: you know towards the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the other thing too,
Speaker 1: is like going back and watching the film, front is defensive.
Speaker 1: They did a good job, you know early on, and
Speaker 1: now you had a piece of Marshall, like you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that really stood out to
Speaker 1: me was how much the offense struggled and that defense.
Speaker 1: You know, that Vic Fangio led defense is very complicated
Speaker 1: in terms of how they kind of disguise coverages. Right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a lot of light boxes, They're gonna
Speaker 1: play heavier coverage structures. It's gonna be harder for the
Speaker 1: quarterback to throw the football. And I went back and
Speaker 1: watched a couple of the early plays and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this is a miss by Jade, like not a misthrow,
Speaker 1: but like a.
Speaker 3: Miss read read like like.
Speaker 1: Kind of hurrying, not being patient. And watching him against
Speaker 1: New Orleans it was like the best version of himself.
Speaker 1: So if that version comes, he gives you a shot.
Speaker 1: I think you know what I mean. And so I
Speaker 1: if the offense can kind of like we talked about, Tanna,
Speaker 1: stay on schedule, because you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have a hard time running football versus versus Phil.
Speaker 4: If I had to say, the key dude to this
Speaker 4: game to me is be Hodist. His presence of him
Speaker 4: battling against Davis and Carter, like he's the guy to me,
Speaker 4: the lynch pin that separates this game.
Speaker 3: We can win this game. We can win this game.
Speaker 4: Because as I watched Philadelphia, they play different when Saquon
Speaker 4: in there compared the game, well, they play a totally
Speaker 4: different game. And if they gonna look big picture here
Speaker 4: and say, all right, should we rushing back?
Speaker 3: Should we?
Speaker 4: They got some decisions to make themselves. And I think
Speaker 4: those decisions affect this game because I say, one list
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles to me, they can show some cracks on offense.
Speaker 4: I just think they do because now it's trying to
Speaker 4: force the ball to aj Brown. We got a pride
Speaker 4: surprise for you. Surprise surprise, got a lot of more
Speaker 4: soup for you. So I just think at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, this game.
Speaker 1: Nervous with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like blocking up the wrong tree. I'm
Speaker 3: come about match up here, go the match matchups too,
Speaker 3: But I feel like this, I don't want to get
Speaker 3: too fixated on having a great shut down, particularly.
Speaker 2: Corner you don't want to put don't want to put.
Speaker 3: Him out that. I know my dad's that that low
Speaker 3: hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to.
Speaker 3: You don't have to.
Speaker 4: It's his status and who he is already puts him
Speaker 4: by this get on the field. You got a J Brown,
Speaker 4: a true number one, top five receiver, and I got
Speaker 4: a top ten corner over here. I'm not finna let
Speaker 4: him right over there with and then DeVante Smith.
Speaker 3: But your ass. You know what I'm saying. That what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's the match up with san RECEI I
Speaker 3: feel you, but I'm saying I don't want to call
Speaker 3: out put like this. No bulletin board material over here.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be calling nobody YoY material. No,
Speaker 3: this is fast. What I'm saying is I feel you.
Speaker 3: This is not saying I'm not saying. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: I don't feel you. I just say word it the
Speaker 3: right way that that's the word. That's that's tone it down.
Speaker 3: They all right, that's just tone down. I know you're
Speaker 3: gonna introduce you to Morows on the last morning. Just lower.
Speaker 3: I know, I know you'll like all the smoke. Can
Speaker 3: I don't want all the smoke. You can'n't want to.
Speaker 3: You cannot run round the chat, but I don't want cannot.
Speaker 3: He's he's not running. He's not gonna run. They playing.
Speaker 3: We talking at the end of the day, I don't.
Speaker 3: That's what Okay, let let's let us just say some Monday.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to jump you on this.
Speaker 1: Damn mic.
Speaker 3: Didn't get beat.
Speaker 1: I will I will say this. I will say this.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do anything. I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll follow guys around. I don't think they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna play on the right
Speaker 1: like he did. I think Sanders is gonna play on
Speaker 1: the left. I think they're gonna play the cover structures
Speaker 1: they want to play. I think if they can get
Speaker 1: Jeremy in the box, they're gonna they're.
Speaker 3: Gonna seeing that. What I will say to a different way,
Speaker 3: what I will say to is because he is.
Speaker 4: He does like to stay on the right because I
Speaker 4: like the right corner.
Speaker 3: So if you feel the death, you can see you putting.
Speaker 3: I get your point. But if you really look at
Speaker 3: what we did in the secondary the last time out,
Speaker 3: even with Saint Juice, they play phenomenal, They had some
Speaker 3: they they stopped those guys on the outside from doing.
Speaker 3: Do you think Jalen Hurst killed us the first game?
Speaker 3: I know that. So that's what I'm saying. So going
Speaker 3: forward knowing that they didn't and now that we got
Speaker 3: our you know, our savior, how our teams think. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that he's our savior. I'm just saying I'm
Speaker 3: glad we have that integral part of our our team
Speaker 3: now that we can rely on out then the secondary.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to sit there and just be
Speaker 3: like we got twenty three. So I don't care what
Speaker 3: y'all talking about. We got the man to stop, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? That's to me that set things
Speaker 3: up to go out to not, you know, be in
Speaker 3: our favorite and I don't want to be seeing us
Speaker 3: sitting in watching game.
Speaker 4: When you add a chest piece of his quality, it
Speaker 4: changes your d it does, and it's all God like
Speaker 4: we have for the last five years went out on
Speaker 4: the field and didn't know if we could stop somebody.
Speaker 4: Five years we went on the field and said, I
Speaker 4: don't know if we got somebody to match up with
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham, whoever the number one.
Speaker 3: Receiv is to have a guy.
Speaker 4: I think it change, It changes the landscape, and I
Speaker 4: think it changes the way the coach with thinks and
Speaker 4: calling his defense.
Speaker 3: I've seen every dog have his day, and it's one
Speaker 3: dog I don't want to be calling it's the corner
Speaker 3: back we all get. I will say, I'm seeing dogs
Speaker 3: have their day and and Levin ain't one of them
Speaker 3: dogs I want to call out.
Speaker 1: I will say this to me Also, I think you know,
Speaker 1: obviously we're really excited that Marshall and madiwill here. Friend's
Speaker 1: obviously excited, TNIs excited. I'm extremely excited. But I think
Speaker 1: the one thing is that good offense beats good defense
Speaker 1: every day of the week, right, And it's not a
Speaker 1: personnel thinks it's not a personal.
Speaker 3: Live on.
Speaker 1: Five top five defense. That is true. But hey, but
Speaker 1: which I don't think you can dispute this. The direction
Speaker 1: of the league is going in terms of how they're
Speaker 1: calling beat Tom Tom Brady. Yeah, but of how the
Speaker 1: league is going in terms of what they're calling from
Speaker 1: a penalty standpoint. They're favoring offensive football, right, they are
Speaker 1: favorite offensive football and when.
Speaker 3: Rules are made for y'all, but we don't care about
Speaker 3: the rules on them.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you there's no there's no defense for
Speaker 1: a properly team. There's no defense like when I watch defense,
Speaker 1: good defensive place. To me, they're bad offensive place.
Speaker 3: I'm saying they say they're like an offensive player. Listen
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: Kansas City has been winning defensively. They trying to get
Speaker 4: a three peat. The quarterback is the greatest quarterback they
Speaker 4: ever played game to we can talk.
Speaker 1: Stop lying to people at home.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: They also have the most efficient quarterback in the ying. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: most efficient quarterback on third.
Speaker 4: They need the names, So tell me is that ain't
Speaker 4: no homes.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good your defense. How many times
Speaker 1: have we talked about, Oh, that defense is really good
Speaker 1: Cleveland early in the season, that defense is really good,
Speaker 1: but their offense is so bad that it's non tenable.
Speaker 3: You can't even batidate what you just said because in
Speaker 3: the day, they have been winning defensively. Why the offense
Speaker 3: got to to the last damn touchdown?
Speaker 4: Because they played tight games, because it's the reason they've
Speaker 4: been what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying at the end of the day, it doesn't
Speaker 3: batterday what you're trying to say, because here and tell
Speaker 3: me an offense that scored nineteen game. I'm saying to
Speaker 3: you smoking what you were saying is that they won.
Speaker 3: They was only in the game because the defense, obviously
Speaker 3: Pat Mahons drove them down field. To win the game,
Speaker 3: because then the.
Speaker 1: Last player the game I got there losing, right, I
Speaker 1: got one for you, I got I got two for you.
Speaker 2: So Detroit is one of the best teams in football
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: Yep, And no, nobody right now is feeling Detroit like
Speaker 4: they were three weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Still win the best, but they're now in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: They will not win because their defense has fell apart
Speaker 4: in their injury front of that won't win because their
Speaker 4: defense has failing.
Speaker 1: Are their top ten team?
Speaker 3: They won't win? They answer my question, they won't in
Speaker 3: the plays top best team. You can ask you something
Speaker 3: gambling answer the question.
Speaker 1: No, okay, Fred, Okay? What about what about the Bills?
Speaker 1: What about the Bills?
Speaker 3: What about the Bills? Are playing some good defense? Are
Speaker 3: they the best defense in football? No, they're not, because
Speaker 3: they have a good offense.
Speaker 1: Is Detroit still a team you don't want to play
Speaker 1: because they have a good offense.
Speaker 4: I would rather play Detroit than Minnesota any day right now.
Speaker 3: They have a good offense. Frat why is Minnesota winning?
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's on an m VP candidacy of the last
Speaker 1: five week I got nothing to do with the I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I'm not saying Fred, if.
Speaker 3: Y'all want to days could be right, Fred, that's not going.
Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm through, carry im.
Speaker 1: Through, carry on. You know, he's not done. He's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna talk here. He's ready to talk. He's ready
Speaker 1: to talk.
Speaker 3: All this started from him trying to man so.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me get this. So the reason I
Speaker 1: brought that up is because I do think that Billy's offense,
Speaker 1: the structure of it, is really straightforward. And so I
Speaker 1: was actually making a point to support Fred here because
Speaker 1: when it's straightforward, when you kind of there's no bunches,
Speaker 1: there's no shifts, there's no motions, it's very stagnant. They
Speaker 1: have very high formational tells when they're running the football.
Speaker 1: They have very high formational tells. From a personal personnel standpoint,
Speaker 1: I think that is something that Joe Witt, Junior, Marshawn Lattimore,
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders still they can take advantage of that. And
Speaker 1: I also think Jalen Hurts is not playing good football
Speaker 1: right now. He's not.
Speaker 2: Everyone says a look at last week. He threw the
Speaker 2: ball really well.
Speaker 1: He threw the ball really well because they because they
Speaker 1: had a lot of possessions. They had eighty plays fred
Speaker 1: eighty offensive possessions defense because I got him to talk.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 1: There we go, and I'm not talking about Philly. Their
Speaker 1: defense is they're amazing, right freend Who's who's their best.
Speaker 2: Corner on Philly?
Speaker 1: You don't know?
Speaker 5: Twenty seven? You want to talk about him? How about you?
Speaker 5: You want to talk about Yeah, there we go, young,
Speaker 5: have about the safeties. You want to talk about safeties?
Speaker 3: Bring up defense? Man of me?
Speaker 1: What it's talk about? It's all about? How about how
Speaker 1: about trust? You hear her Johnson?
Speaker 5: How about that relaiw about to play defense?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about about replankenship?
Speaker 3: But bring up Red?
Speaker 1: You know, don't bring him up.
Speaker 3: No, let's talk. Let's talk about a J. Brown and
Speaker 3: Smitty You were.
Speaker 1: Just talking about him.
Speaker 3: No, they are a great offense. That's not all I
Speaker 3: said is just don't bark up the wrong tree, bro,
Speaker 3: That's all I said at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: that this is what started all that. Other you can
Speaker 3: bleep that and if you want why.
Speaker 1: You said we break up the wrong tree? Just totally legitimate.
Speaker 4: And then he said J Brown anyway, that's what a J.
Speaker 3: Brown do? He wolfs up after you.
Speaker 4: Wolf squeaky squeaky wheel makes a lot of noise. So yeah,
Speaker 4: we knew he was gonna get the ball and it
Speaker 4: hit dog with. All I'm gonna tell him is now
Speaker 4: how he used to look at Washington. He can't look
Speaker 4: at us like that, and.
Speaker 3: He just can't. And Fred I just said, you absolutely right.
Speaker 3: But as we sit in these seas talking, that's not
Speaker 3: put too much on one. J.
Speaker 4: Brown ain't thinking about it. He ain't thinking about us.
Speaker 4: He ain't thinking about what Fred Smooth say.
Speaker 2: I just don't like that you give yourself some credit.
Speaker 3: I'm just superstitious. Don't want you putting none in the
Speaker 3: air that can be ground. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You cry what's going on over there?
Speaker 1: We a part, We.
Speaker 3: Are part of this together. We a part of this
Speaker 3: part together. I don't want nothing going out there to
Speaker 3: where I could sit back and see the damn.
Speaker 2: How crazy, how crazy it would be if A J.
Speaker 2: Brown retweeted something you said.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be the first that I know A J.
Speaker 3: I didn't interview. Aj Aj is from Starkville, Mississippi, where
Speaker 3: Missippi State a change. His night.
Speaker 4: But you know Aj I know Aj Brown this, you
Speaker 4: know I know his character too. He loves the smoke.
Speaker 2: So let me just say so.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about you just do it that
Speaker 1: Marshaw lottimorrow. We're excited for that AJ Brown matchup. The
Speaker 1: one thing coming out of the first game I thought
Speaker 1: was Cliff and Jayden and their lack of efficiency. What
Speaker 1: do you think they need to do against this defense?
Speaker 1: Fred to make sure that they're super efficient ten the
Speaker 1: same thing, making sure they're locked in because again, this defense.
Speaker 1: I watched the Pittsburgh game. They made Pittsbord and Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: had a great offense.
Speaker 3: That good defense.
Speaker 1: They're really they're physical upfront. Cooper dejen Man, he's playing
Speaker 1: good ball. Bond's playing good ball. And they can stop
Speaker 1: the run man with six guys like almost every time.
Speaker 1: Like it's really incredible what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Need to make plays. We got to possess the ball
Speaker 3: to me offensively. I think this game is gonna be
Speaker 3: one of them games. Phrase the brain is up a lot.
Speaker 3: Our best defense had to be a great offense. We
Speaker 3: got to be able to move the chains. If we
Speaker 3: can't run the ball between the tackles because of whatever
Speaker 3: they play doing up front. Then we need to be
Speaker 3: able to put in some of those screens and the
Speaker 3: things that we do well with the different formations and
Speaker 3: mix things up away where we can put the ball
Speaker 3: in guys' hands so we can get those those yohts
Speaker 3: that we can't get in the run game and vice versa.
Speaker 3: Do that enough to where the now they're changing things
Speaker 3: defensively and now we can plunge this ball up the
Speaker 3: gut on them. So we have to do things offensively
Speaker 3: that whether we did it before or not, we got
Speaker 3: to make sure that we're possessing the balls No. Three
Speaker 3: and outs. It's sustained drives, moving the chains and then
Speaker 3: finishing with scores. If we do that, we give ourselves
Speaker 3: a great chance to be in this game and win
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say to me, it's like, can
Speaker 1: the wild Boards do their thing right? They got to
Speaker 1: be physical against his front and then ken Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: give Jaden some formational some motion tells to help them
Speaker 1: diagnose the coverage.
Speaker 4: If you call the players on offense, do you want
Speaker 4: to try to especially with them two big boys caught
Speaker 4: in David, do you want to try to blunt force
Speaker 4: trauma them.
Speaker 1: It didn't work.
Speaker 3: Work.
Speaker 4: So I think when you get them guys running sideway.
Speaker 2: Just a fast, physical defense.
Speaker 4: They are, but I think to run them sideways early
Speaker 4: and often and then to yeah and then run, that's where.
Speaker 3: To get them going is it's getting back into the temple.
Speaker 4: Not allowing them to call they played, not allowing Big
Speaker 4: Fangio to call his plays each and every thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna be The big thing is
Speaker 1: can can Cliff can Jay? Can they figure out a wrinkle,
Speaker 1: a way to diagnose coverage, a way to run the football?
Speaker 1: Like this is a tough defense, best defens in football.
Speaker 4: But can you make them show you what they're doing?
Speaker 4: And I think, yeah, yeah, that's I'm saying, And I
Speaker 4: think to undress them in that way. Tempo is the
Speaker 4: key to do it because I got my first play
Speaker 4: call and I got my check. If they go on
Speaker 4: keep checking, I'm gonna I'm gonna know what you're gonna
Speaker 4: be in. And if we're doing tempo, they cannot get
Speaker 4: people in and off the field.
Speaker 3: And now let's tired of the big dudes. My first
Speaker 3: fifteen to thirty players would be both were going there
Speaker 3: with two plays every time, and we and we got
Speaker 3: a third play for the next down just to get
Speaker 3: them gas. You know what I mean. I want to
Speaker 3: see these guys early gas and it's gonna be cold,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of those games. They're gonna drop
Speaker 3: a little bit. It's gonna be one those days on Sunday.
Speaker 3: I want to see these guys. Oh man, this ain't
Speaker 3: what I signed up for today, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And I think when you get your offense moving, because
Speaker 3: if you can't do things that you did normally all
Speaker 3: season loan and had success doing, then now you got
Speaker 3: to create another way. And I see I've seen Cliff
Speaker 3: do that time and time this year. He's very creative
Speaker 3: when it's time to get that ball moving up and
Speaker 3: down the field. So to me, I think that's going
Speaker 3: to be sounding.
Speaker 4: And I hate to say it, it's hard to run
Speaker 4: screens on this team, but they run so much, but
Speaker 4: not with the wide receiver screens. But you can run
Speaker 4: the tailback and the tight end screens. But man side side,
Speaker 4: let's let's beat them horizontally to beat them vertical.
Speaker 1: I like that, all right, So now we got hell
Speaker 1: yeah or Hell no, that's what they told me about
Speaker 1: defense winning championship. And we have a very very special
Speaker 1: guest today. It's I t guy Bryce. And the reason
Speaker 1: this is a special guest is Bryce Analytics here is
Speaker 1: the best fish sure men I know by far. And
Speaker 1: so what we did is we're bringing in a subject
Speaker 1: matter expert to give Fred some questions about fishing.
Speaker 3: Because Fred, we.
Speaker 1: Set you up Bryce. I remember Bryce takes his fishing
Speaker 1: rods on away trips and he's got different travel rods
Speaker 1: and different baits and lures and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And he knows he's in competitive fishing tournament and.
Speaker 3: What you know about hooker beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hey, don't let him Bryce, don't let him
Speaker 1: change the subject. So he's gonna ask you a couple
Speaker 1: of questions.
Speaker 6: You said your fisher jumping out of the water for you.
Speaker 6: Here the line on it as you say, what's up?
Speaker 2: Say how to the people be here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Bryce, so you can tell you likes fishing just
Speaker 1: by that.
Speaker 3: Is definitely a voice.
Speaker 2: All right, Bryce, do you have your first question?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have Fred's. So we went together and put
Speaker 7: to six quick questions together. Try to get through them.
Speaker 7: You're welcome pass or you move on. And some of
Speaker 7: these are up for debate as well.
Speaker 1: So if you you know.
Speaker 7: If I do say it's wrong and you don't agree
Speaker 7: with that, you can I can debate.
Speaker 3: Just let us ship the wrong person a chance to debate.
Speaker 3: You're going to go down.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good, right. So that's the first question.
Speaker 7: First question is in competitive bass fishing, how many bass
Speaker 7: are the anglers allowed to keep in their live well
Speaker 7: and bring to weigh in?
Speaker 4: They can keep? Is it six or seven or more?
Speaker 4: So they have to be waiting because the dude got cheat, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, don't change the subject. How many can they keep
Speaker 1: in their bast well?
Speaker 3: I thought it was seven? It's five? A right, good,
Speaker 3: that's which I want to do.
Speaker 1: You were like six. You're like what you did? Which
Speaker 1: I love what you do. And you don't know the
Speaker 1: answer to anything. You go six or seven or eight?
Speaker 3: You know six? He said six or seven or whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 3: six to seven of.
Speaker 1: Them all so pretty close.
Speaker 7: So the next question is what is larger a four
Speaker 7: hot hook.
Speaker 1: For a number of four Jesus A four hook corracked?
Speaker 3: Wow? Hook?
Speaker 1: Do you was that? A guess it?
Speaker 3: With clear? Though? Now there's actually one and a hay
Speaker 3: went out.
Speaker 1: So, so, how did you know that? You guess, you guess.
Speaker 3: I guess that's huncleberry free all right?
Speaker 7: By the next question already which type of bass tends
Speaker 7: to prefer cooler water?
Speaker 3: Large mouth or small mouth? You don't know? Small mouth?
Speaker 1: My mouth correcked?
Speaker 2: That was such a three found up north?
Speaker 4: Why I gotta guess everything because I lived in Minneapolis,
Speaker 4: A crappy and the small mouth bass.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny as I know you're lying because
Speaker 1: your lip does a little tremble sometimes retire.
Speaker 3: I say, like here we trying would say anything, he'd
Speaker 3: be like, you know what?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 3: You laugh your Oh man.
Speaker 1: What we got right? Ready? That's pretty good.
Speaker 7: Actually, this one is mono filament fishing line, the most
Speaker 7: popular common type of fishing line, also known as mono.
Speaker 7: Does that line float or does it sink?
Speaker 3: Deadline floats, but it sits with the whistle name with
Speaker 3: the weight on it.
Speaker 2: Fred, Fred, that was good one.
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. I knew that one over here, man,
Speaker 4: all right? Second last, you didn't you know? I like
Speaker 4: when y'all do this. Every time I talk about something,
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 3: You do this. We recycling.
Speaker 2: You also doing it with barnyard animals.
Speaker 1: Right, So we got.
Speaker 7: The next one here for Fred is can you name
Speaker 7: one current or retire professional fisherman?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: If you can get this, I.
Speaker 3: Really want to name the dude that cheated in one
Speaker 3: tournaments and they.
Speaker 1: Took them back the way to the fishing.
Speaker 2: I guess he would be a professional angler, though, angler?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? No?
Speaker 3: I don't. Okay, Tom, So are you?
Speaker 1: Is he professional?
Speaker 3: He is?
Speaker 1: Well, we'll skip this one, right, So you're a professional angler?
Speaker 1: Do you have you? I'm not professional?
Speaker 3: Only try to find I didn't got too wrong?
Speaker 1: Last one number six?
Speaker 7: One number six? If you can name this, this tournament
Speaker 7: is considered the super Bowl of bess mastering fast Master?
Speaker 4: What beass Master tournament in South Carolina? Is the pro
Speaker 4: the bass Master Pro?
Speaker 7: Not so the tournament that they considered the super Bowl
Speaker 7: of bass fishing is the bass Master Classic?
Speaker 1: It is it in South Carolina? Is it in South Carolina?
Speaker 7: It moves around you to ye, I'm sure it has
Speaker 7: been in South Carolina?
Speaker 1: Fast Master? So Bryce, what do you think is he?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is he? Yeah? Is he hookerbar?
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I just I just think Fred as small as hell,
Speaker 3: and you can't. You can't know nothing because he knows
Speaker 3: a little bit about everything.
Speaker 2: So that is impressive.
Speaker 1: What was the hook one? Again?
Speaker 7: I'm never surprised the difference between a four hot hook
Speaker 7: and a number four hooks.
Speaker 1: No, overall, I was pretty impressed. I think Fred did
Speaker 1: very well on that question. Bryce is impressed. I'm impressed.
Speaker 1: No one knows more about.
Speaker 3: You go in against me?
Speaker 1: I do. I'm not so bad. I do rude against you.
Speaker 3: So listen to a lot of radio and TV absorbs.
Speaker 1: What do you hear about four odd hooks?
Speaker 3: A shame thing. I didn't know nothing that he knew
Speaker 3: all the stuff about gardening, the same thing we didn't
Speaker 3: know about different you know, farm animal Like the dude
Speaker 3: just hear things and it sticks so.
Speaker 1: To regurgitated every time. Bro, all right, Bryce has to go. Bryce,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, expert to the podcast. Appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I love that I get such because it's also it's
Speaker 1: also funny because you.
Speaker 3: Stop it right now, because I think he actually makes
Speaker 3: us look a little bad every time.
Speaker 1: He's just he just but I know I love it
Speaker 1: because it's like there's like there's no way there's no
Speaker 1: way you know the difference between these hooks, and maybe
Speaker 1: you don't and you just guess right. But the fact
Speaker 1: that you give an answer that is correct, I'm always
Speaker 1: just blown away. I'm just blown away by this dude
Speaker 1: every single time, even though he thinks.
Speaker 3: Y'all go through a test and be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I went to space.
Speaker 1: Here, we'll get somebody in here. I'll get my dad
Speaker 1: on the phone. He'll ask you some crazy questions.
Speaker 4: Would love to talk to I mean to talk about
Speaker 4: the new theory that they got. The fact that they
Speaker 4: talking about it was a we got invaded by a
Speaker 4: planet in the Solar System that that kind of moved
Speaker 4: the planets around.
Speaker 3: I didn't know about it.
Speaker 1: I did not know Bey, Okay, before we get on planets,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this off air. Thanks so much for joining.
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Speaker 3: That's it. Hell yeah,