1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Damnit Shack. Here. Make sure you check out the new 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: episode of the Dave Damn Shack Football Program. I Caleb 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Mariese Jones, Drew Matt, Montie Smith and I running around 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: drafttown here in Chicago, Illinois, Hacket Draft and all other things. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Check it out NFL dot com, Slash podcast, or iTunes. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's get it started. The two thousand sixteen 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: NFL Draft is now officially open. The Around the NFL 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Podcast received a first round grade from Mike Mayock. Welcome 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up boys? In honest question about Mike Mayock, 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: does he know that any of the four of us 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: even roam the planet? Hasn't heard of any of us? 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: No chance. I've talked to Mike Mayock a few times, 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and I got the impress should he might he might 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: be aware of my existence. I had introduced myself and 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 1: even talked to him back when I worked at NBC 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and Pro Football Talk, So I don't know. There's a chance. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: It's usually Gregg that someone knows, but I once I 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't bet on it. I once mistakenly filed a post 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: with Mike Mayock's byline because it's right above mine in 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: the list where you pull someone's name, and I quickly 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: heard not from Mike Mayok, but from a handler that 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: said get that down now. Someday you're gonna have a handler. 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: The answer is no, by the way, and you probably no. 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean Mayak, this is yeah, this is Mayok time. 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: So he's kind of like the king of the world 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: from what February through the first weekend. You know, waits, 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: it's our time. This is after the draft NFL Networks 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: post game show. Right now Mayok's back preparing for day two. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: This is our time. They're not dropping an hour straight 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: of fire like we did. It's uh. It's about twenty 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: minutes before ten pm in the Pacific coast, uh as 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: we record this podcast. Round one of the NFL Draft 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: in the books, and what an eventful Round one it was. 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I believe there were four trades in the round. Uh. 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: There were five Ohio State Buckeyes players selected. There was 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: one gas mask involved. I mean, there were things and 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: a in a major trade that involved the Broncos getting 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Uh. This was and there was a lot 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of talk leading up to 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: the draft. It's not a great draft class in terms 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: of you know, pop, but this first round popped as 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: an entertainment subject. We're never gonna have a well, I 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: don't know full ever have a story like Laramie Tounsil again, 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: but it is hard to imagine. We have never had 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a story like Laramie Tunslo before. And that story changing 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: as the night went on, and I felt like I 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: spent my whole night just updating my one Laramie tonsl 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: post literally just kept getting wackier and wackier. I mean, 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever have and see anything quite 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: like that ever. Again, that's gotta be I mean, that 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: might be the craziest like draft day story. Um ever, 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean just that that the and it's such a 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen story as well, that right before the 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: draft starts, a guy that could have been a top 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: three pick, a video surfaces of him, uh taking a 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: giant bomb rip with a face with a gas mask 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: with by the way, with a Confederate flag behind him 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: as well. Like the whole video was wild that we 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: can't take a picture without an outside of the flag. 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: The device was impressive, the flag not so much, but 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: what I mean it actually made me claustrophobic just looking 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: at it. But just then the idea then that everyone 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that's watching immediately season and it's going nuts on Twitter, 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: and then it starts the stories start to trickle out. 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: What this means for this guy's uh, his stock in 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: the draft that was fascinated by the timing of it. 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: All of these war rooms have to adjust on the fly, 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: and for a guy, you know, Ian Rappaport reported and 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Tunsil confirmed this after afterwards that the video was from 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: several years ago and he passed all of his drug tests. 74 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: So somebody's getting a good bargain here. Why is he 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: sliding down draft boards? I think that's a fair question, 76 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: but it's tough in the moment that you're just seeing 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: this video. Now, I incorrectly video means a lot in 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, I incorrectly said in our slack channel right away, 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't think that. Our our conversation, 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be that big of a deal. Well, 81 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: I said, I think this, you know, this could be 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: this could trigger a slide for Tuns because if the 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Rams and Eagles hadn't taken as long as they did, 84 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: there would have been even more chaos for teams to 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: deal with because the Chargers at number three prime landing spot. 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Greg immediately said no, no, no, no, What did you say. Well, 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I just thought I thought it wasn't gonna crush because 88 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like West. I could tell Greg the 89 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: sun will rise tomorrow and it will be bright and 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: it will be hot, and Greg would say probably no. 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: By the way, he only slipped the thirteen. You know, 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: Miles Jack's slipped out of the first round. A lot 93 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: of players in DJA, like a lot of people slipped 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: much further than expected. He ended up not having as 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: big of a fall as I thought once it started going. 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: But we did get reports that he was taken off 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: draft board. He just free he just it just freaked 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: people out, and I I felt for the guy because 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: not only they kept on cutting to him in the 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: draft room, and you see the look in his face, 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: and you can imagine his phones blowing up, and and 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: then you get Mike Mayock talking about, you know, oh, 103 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: this kid, I don't feel sorry for it. All and 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, and eyes been saying that video 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: doesn't look that old. You know, there was a lot 106 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: of judgment on the kid, and you couldn't help but 107 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: feel terrible for him. So I actually felt I was 108 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: happy for him when he went at thirteen. If that 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: was a keg stand, teams would have traded up for him. 110 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: That's true. Mean, what are we doing here? Like half 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: the country he's legally can smoke weed. Now now the 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: idea that he would have fallen. And it was all 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: again on Twitter because everyone was making judgments, Oh, this 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be an undrafted free agent. I wonder 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: who gets I'm like, guy smoked a little weed. Well, 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I think it was a lot. It was. Well, the 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: league's ruling on this is viewed by many, and rightly 118 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: so I think to be antiquated. They're they're in the 119 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: crosshairs of the whole country changing where they are on this. Well, 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be, you know, in the crosshairs in 121 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: terms of you know, taking you know, taking drug tests 122 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: and all that. And I'm sure the Dolphins, uh, we'll 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: be talking to him about all that. But I think 124 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: it was the I don't think it was I think 125 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: it was the apparatus that it was. I think it 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: was the intensity of the apparatus and the timing and Okay, 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: now we know and and we even said immediately like, 128 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: oh he got he got hacked. That also leads to 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: another topic of like what is going on that someone 130 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: is going after this guy so much that they're putting 131 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: this information it that that alone could freak people. It's 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: like a skeletor super villain after him, and you would think, like, imagine, 133 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: put yourself in this guy's shoes, like, not only you're 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: you've became a multimillionaire today in your first round pick 135 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You realize your dream. But he has 136 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: to be consumed with thoughts about who banged me in 137 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: the biggest spot possible? How am I going to find 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: this culprit and destroy him? And he's not you know 139 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: from his interviews right away on the main stage, he 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: is getting quizzed about this and he's probably still in 141 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: his mind, as you say, picking up the pieces of 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: what it should be the number one moment in his life, 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: what he's been working for for years and years, and 144 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: the whole time as his name was falling from one 145 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: team to the next the look on his face set 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, you do feel for him? Was 147 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: it your stepfather that through that? It was hard hitting 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: journal Dion saying I actually I was. The way Dan 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: did that blew my mind. It was one of the 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: more surprising, amazing draft moments I've seen. And I'm glad 151 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: he asked it too, because it's it's a question on 152 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: everybody time his stepfather sued him a couple of days ago, 153 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: and there there's a long back story We're not gonna 154 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: get into all that of legal problems withal, a break down, 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: the legal size, Mike Wallace, all of a sudden t 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: on Sanders. I mean, so everyone was kind of thinking that. 157 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: And that's the crazy thing is it didn't end there, 158 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, after that moment, after he was on the stage. 159 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Then in his Instagram account, which amazingly was just sitting 160 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: there wide open, probably hadn't changed the password to that 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: there one tree five six seven pass worth. A text 162 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: exchange is posted between Tunsil and what apparently is some 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: sort of old miss official or coach with um, you know, 164 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: money being exchange, and Tunsil's asked about in his press 165 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: conference and he admits to taking money from an old 166 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: miss official and then he's escorted off the stage at 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the end. So that was like a whole separate thing. 168 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: And meanwhile there's like fake statements from a agent that 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: people are actually following for and it's crazy. And you 170 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: know what it all ends up with his Maya the 171 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. They say Tunsil was the number two overall 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: player on their board, and you know, people always say 173 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: that starts up, but it's believable with this guy. It 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: was a guy that was supposedly a top two or 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: three player I think I was, and ended up being 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: a great pick uh for the Dolbins. I have one 177 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: more theory, by the way, on this what and it 178 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: was a misguided notion, but what if he right as 179 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the draft Telecastle started, he tweeted out that video himself, 180 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: just because he wanted to show that he was kind 181 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: of a cool dude that knows how to party but 182 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: also good block like a mother effort. Well, seem just 183 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of holes in that theory, but 184 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: he's the look on his face would be the first hole. 185 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he seems stunned. Any human he said he 186 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: said he was hacked, so that that would seem like 187 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: which we always believe and I mean in this case, 188 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: it is the most believable hacked thing of all time. 189 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: We we should point out something we were talking about 190 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: before we posted this is something where it really tested 191 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people. It tested the the on air 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: people to deal with a breaking news story like this 193 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: during the draft is an unforeseen thing. It tests an 194 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: agent like they're their crisis management skills, and it might 195 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: have saved Blaramie Tunsil that he has a big he 196 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: has an agent, Jimmy Sexton. Um, you know who has 197 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: who's client I believe is Adam Gates. Jimmy Sexton is 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: known to have some pretty close ties with the Dolphins 199 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: in terms of their clients and uh, Dominican Sue and 200 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: you know tannebaum Is it worked with this guy a 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: lot and he gets he ends up getting again drafted 202 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: by the Dolphins. That's how that's relationship. And to Tunsil's 203 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: credit as well, he comported himself very well with Dion 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: on national television. There where uh lesser in terms of 205 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that wasn't mature could have like said 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: some things he shouldn't have. Uh. And apparently he did 207 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: a little later, but not in that public spot. But 208 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: all things said and done, it could have been a 209 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: lot worse night than it ended up being. Someone like 210 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: spice Rack would have folded on that stage. I don't know. 211 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: We was just discussing. We were discussing spice Racks. That 212 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: just came to minden Spicies feet to the fire. We 213 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: gotta get Spicy on the pod next week to get 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: his break down, and he also has to make his 215 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: prediction to dig himself out of the Melvin Gordon hold 216 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: of last last year, he famously predicted if if Melvin 217 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: Gordon went to the Cowboys, he would lead the NFL 218 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: and rushing as a rookie. So I texted him right 219 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: before we got on the show to see if he 220 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: thought the same way about Ezekiel Elliott, and he basically 221 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: said yes, but I Am not going to officially make 222 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: that prognostication. All right. Well, that leads us nicely into 223 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: the second thing we want to talk about here, which 224 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: is Ezekiel. Ezekiel Elliott goes to the Dallas Cowboys with 225 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: the fourth pick overall, and this was a pick after 226 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa Uh goes number three to the Chargers Greg, 227 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: and that was the first surprise of the draft. A 228 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of people connected the Chargers to offensive lineman, Uh, 229 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers needs some more help there, but instead they 230 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: go with Bosa and Greg. You notice something when they 231 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: showed the Cowboys war room after the Bossa picked to 232 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: San Diego, right before Dallas was on the clock. We've 233 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: got a camera on the Dallas war room and they're all, 234 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, backslaps and laughing, and suddenly Bosa goes off 235 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: the board and it just seemed like they had seen 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: a ghost. It was just quiet and silent, and I 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: don't know if panics the word or whatever it was. 238 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: They're just sitting there. And maybe I'm reading too much 239 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: into it, but I did see some reports that that 240 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: they were high on Joey Bosa, and so who knows, 241 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: maybe that wasn't gonna be there pick. We also saw 242 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: a report, uh that a team the Ravens, tried to 243 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: trade up to Dallas to draft Jalen Ramsey uh, and 244 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys would not move off of that. So I 245 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: think they were still very very excited to take Ezekiel 246 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: Elliott at number four. They clearly didn't want to move down. 247 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: It turns out they probably could have moved down and 248 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: still got an Elliott and picked up a pick, but 249 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: they played it safe and they took Elliott. Ramsey ended 250 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: up going number five to the Jacksonville Jaguars and the 251 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: buzz and I wrote a post earlier before the draft 252 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: that Ian Rapp reporter reported that the Cowboys were struggling 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey verse, Zeki Elliott, Zeke Elliott. What are 254 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: we going with here? I think Zeke, Zeke Elliot and 255 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Ezekiel and Jara sounds like he won this power struggle 256 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: two years after he got talked out of Johnny Monzel. 257 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: I I think that this is the Jerry Jones type pick, 258 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: but everyone in that roo it is. But wait, they 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: were they were somewhat there was a morose feel to it. 260 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Might be reading, but it's fair that they were all 261 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: backslapping and having a great time. Then it went. It 262 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: was like suddenly someone put nerve gas in the room 263 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: and then and then they're all happy again. So they 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: were thrilled with Elliott. I think it's a good fit 265 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: for Dallas. I mean, they haven't lost the memory. I 266 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: think it's a Garrett pick. Two people talked about Garrett 267 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: wanting Elliott as well, and you go back to what 268 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: you were if Romo is healthy with that great offensive line, 269 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: to what you were two years ago. If the rookie 270 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: running back can play as they hope, they could have 271 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in the league. I thought 272 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: the Boasta thing was really interesting to me how surprised 273 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: everyone was. The Chargers were connected to just about every 274 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: player in the top ten except Bosa. After during the 275 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: entire two thousand fifteen season, Bosa was number one to 276 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: top everyone's boards, and then all of a sudden people 277 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: are talking about him going seventh or eighth or whatever. 278 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: This guy's a monster. Yeah, the only thing is and 279 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I think it'll be fine. But they run a three four, 280 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: and I primarily he was looked at as a better 281 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: fit as like a Cowboys end in a four three. 282 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: But forget it. He can play. If he plays like 283 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: he did before, he could play in any teams. Now 284 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: are so multiple playing both, including the Chargers, that they'll 285 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: probably play more for three because they have Joey Bosa, 286 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: or he'll just have his his hand in the ground. 287 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: And you're right that almost all day people were there saying, well, 288 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: if it's defense, it's gonna be Buckner, or if it's defense, 289 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Ramsey. People disagreed, or you know, people 290 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: were really going Ronnie Stanley big and then you know, 291 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: and no one had Bosa and it killed all the 292 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: mock draft. I was gonna say, are you saying nobody 293 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: actually knows anything? At all? Those months? Literally no one 294 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: said Bosa, no one. No one was saying that is 295 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: the favorite to be the pick. One was even mentioned 296 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: him among the four or five names there. So it 297 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: really does show for all the information that we get 298 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: in terms of guessing who's gonna take what no one knows. 299 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't even have to smoke screen because 300 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: once the first two picks get locked in, they essentially 301 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: had the first real pick of consequence in the draft 302 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure things out. I love I 303 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: think they wanted to trade down and so maybe they 304 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: thought they could have traded down to six or something 305 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: and still got Bosa. I love the Cowboy pick, by 306 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: the way, because if you think about it, they have 307 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: this game changing offensive line potentially, and there are people 308 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: are making some comparisons to Adrian Peterson uh with Elliott 309 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: and if he turns out to be the real deal. Uh, 310 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: you have Tony Romo, thirty six years old, all beat up. 311 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: Now you can change your offensive dynamic a little bit. 312 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: You have this guy that built for the Cowboys type talent. 313 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: I think it makes them more fun to watch, and 314 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I think it it makes sense for the team. So 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I think it works on both. You've got your triplets 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: part two if you want to call it that. If 317 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't Part eight at this point, right you could 318 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: argue they're putting almost too much, too many resources into 319 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: into the running game and into one thing. But I 320 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I tend to be I tend to agree with you. Dan. 321 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: One thing I thought when I did that redraft of 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: the last year's rookie classes is three down running backs 323 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: like Todd Gurley and David Johnson are a relatively scarce 324 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: resource in the NFL right now. Like as they would say, 325 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: foundation backs that can be really good on every down, 326 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: that can be a power goal line back and a 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: great third down back and make people miss in space 328 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: and in small holes, and by all accounts and from 329 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: everything I've seen, Elliott is that guy. Maybe it isn't 330 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: quite as dynamic as Todd Gurley, but is definitely as 331 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: complete and the talk about him as being in Romo 332 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: has become one of the smartest quarterbacks. That Elliott is 333 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: one of the smartest running backs coming out of the draft. 334 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: They've seen a long time in an excellent blocker. If 335 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: anything catches rookie running backs is they're not good blockers. 336 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: It takes time to adjust. They're off the field on 337 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: third down, they say, is a He is a phenomenal blog, right, 338 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and so if if there's only five or six of 339 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: those guys in the league, that's a scarce resource and 340 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: it's worth it's worth a lot. I think if they 341 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: were redoing the draft, David Johnson should go in the 342 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: top ten and Todd Gurley would go on the top three. 343 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: And so if Elliott is really kind of in that 344 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: in that range, why not take him. Alfred Morris isn't 345 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: gonna like it. You don't pass on studs. Look at 346 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson draft. Do you think that? How do 347 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: you think the Cardinals failed up drafting Levi Brown instead 348 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: of Adrian Peterson Because you're drafting, you're drafting for need 349 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: instead of the Peterson. When I saw him in college, 350 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: I thought he was the best running back I've ever seen? 351 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Do you um still think Darren McFadden's got a top 352 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: of thousand yards this year? R I p Derren mc 353 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: fadden's fantasy value? How about r I p Alfred Morris period? 354 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: What do you think al big Al was thinking when 355 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: he heard the news? Is even gonna be on that scene? 356 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Like thinking I should have resigned with the Redskins whatever 357 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: they are, didn't want him? Um, all right, so that's 358 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: the very top ten fantasy pick. How about that. Let's 359 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: go throwing some fantasy I'm with you on that's gotta 360 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: be it off the bat rookie year, he's a top 361 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: ten fantasy players gotta be. Yeah, he's gonna be. I mean, 362 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: that's not even a well they're a run heavy offense. 363 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: That's what they want to be. Yeah, alright, so let's 364 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: bounce around a little bit. So that's what happened at 365 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: the top of the draft. The third thing we want 366 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: to talk about because it was, um such a big 367 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: story in the NFL for really months. The Denver Broncos 368 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with a broken down Peyton Manning. 369 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: They have brock Oswiler waiting in the wings, but no, 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans steal them away with a massive seventy 371 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: two million dollar contract. So the Broncos need a quarterback. 372 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: They trade for Mark Sanchez. Nobody takes it seriously. He'll 373 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: be the backup. They'll get con Kaepernick. That will finally happen. 374 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: That deal never comes together. And guess what. John always 375 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: gotta make a move on the day of the draft. 376 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: And what does he do. He trades up five picks 377 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: in the first round and gets his quarterback. It is 378 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Memphis passer um Paxton. Lynch goes to the Denver Broncos. 379 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: They have their quarterback in the future. But my question, uh, 380 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and West will start with you on this everything because 381 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I tracked Lynch very closely in the past week or 382 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: so because he kept on being connected to the Jets. 383 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Everything you heard about this guy was that he was 384 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: a project and he never played under center, and he'd 385 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: never been in a huddle or read a defense at 386 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Uh, this is a team defending 387 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl title, and it makes sense to me 388 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: that Mark Sanchez is gonna be the starter because this 389 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: guy won't be ready by September eight. Yeah, I remember 390 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: last year when that was the scun report on Marcus Mariota. 391 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: Then he went out and became the only quarterback in 392 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: NFL history to post a perfect passer Radio. He was 393 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the number two pick of the draft. Still, we don't 394 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: know if these guys are NFL ready. That was the 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: book on Mariota, starting with Mayock saying this guy needs 396 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: a year. Name another guy. Oh, there's all kinds of 397 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: guys where they say they need time and then they 398 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: get thrown right. And about Tannehill, Yeah, they always if 399 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: you draft a guy in the first round, generally over 400 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: the last ten years, first round quarterback start week one 401 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: and Tim I love John the way John Elway has 402 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: played this all along. Look, what are the forty Niners 403 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? There are reports they're gonna just gonna release 404 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick now that there's no trade market for him. 405 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: So Elway gets a six ft seven passer more talented 406 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: than brock Osweiler paying a quarter of the salary. After 407 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: everyone acted like the handwringing over not signing brock Unitis 408 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: to a twenty million dollar year contract. Give me a break, 409 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: but they developed that guy for four years. They wanted 410 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: to pay developed a guy who got benched for the 411 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: washed up version of Peyton Manning. But that was not 412 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: just about skill level. That was about a lot of 413 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: heat with Peyton Manning. All right, but now look who's 414 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: sitting pretty? John? I always sit pretty? Is a good guy? Is? 415 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Is Mark Santis possibly starting for a defending just fine? 416 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: Pulled off? What do you pull off? What do we 417 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: know about this guy? It's not We may not know 418 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: much about him. But if you go read from scouts 419 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: some of them, what they say is, look at you 420 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: can have your golf and your wentz. We understand why 421 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: they're wanting two, but what Paxton Lynch has from a 422 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: tools angle is incredibly enticing. And maybe he does need time, 423 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: but the dude has a cannon arm and for six 424 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: ft seven he can move. He's a good fit for 425 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: that offense. He's a perfect for bootlegs. So it's fine 426 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: that they have Sanchez. Maybe they don't start him right away. 427 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: But all this nonsense. We were told Blake Bortles wasn't 428 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna start and they're gonna have Chad Henny go through 429 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: sixteen games by week five. That was nonsense. But how 430 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: has it right now? He's sitting on top of the 431 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: NFL mountain on his throne. A good GM knows not 432 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: to overpay and absolutely like ransom and hijack your salary cap. 433 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: And Elway refused to do that, and he was smart 434 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: enough not to show enough interest in Lynch where they 435 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: got him. I'm not I think I think General John 436 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: do that because because Oswiler went got eighteen million dollar 437 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: offerings that a sixteen, I mean he was ready to 438 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: pay sixteen that he went got eighteen obviously right he did. 439 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: And I think he deserves credit because I think you 440 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: should if you're in this position like l Way, you 441 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: should be taking a real quarterback every year until you 442 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: find one. And and he found one not only that 443 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: he would draft, but that he liked enough to trade 444 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: up for. He gave up a third round the best 445 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. And this is a team that 446 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: has needs and I think one of the biggest. I 447 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not ready to say the Broncos are 448 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: some big winner because it's it's a first round quarterback, 449 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: it's a thing. But I think Paxton Lynch is the 450 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: biggest winner of the entire day because if he's got 451 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: to succeed in the NFL to be on this team 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: and in this system, and with Gary Kubiak, you could 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: not be in a better position. But I, I really 454 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I kind of buy the 455 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: whole Lynch has to wait a while thing because I 456 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: don't think the Broncos are gonna want to rush him 457 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: into this and I and I do think we're gonna 458 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: be seen Mark Sanchez starting for the defending chamber. This 459 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: is crazy. Or maybe they add another veteran and that's 460 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: why I and that would be interesting too, would be 461 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: at it. That would be a lot of cooks and 462 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: the like at a Hoyer or something, just to have 463 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: another option. But that's why I still think ultimately, maybe 464 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: long term, Elway should be a lauded for making this 465 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: move and getting a first round quarterback with a lot 466 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: of tools. But I still think it wasn't handled well. 467 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: If Mark Sanchez is the guy behind center when you're 468 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: trying to defend a title, because that's the ultimate when 469 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you're a defending champire, it's win now. He can't be 470 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: more win now than that, and you don't kick chances 471 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: to repeat. His champion wasn't winning the super Bowl this year. 472 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: And if Mark Sancha seeds to a rookie, that's never 473 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: been in a real offense before. He's not gonna win 474 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: a Super bore a unique super Bowl champion though, because 475 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: not often do you see a team that wins the 476 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl lose everything at quarterback and have to start over. 477 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: And it's not been a good Yes, you can go 478 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: have gotten Colin Kaepernick, but Colin Kaepernick is much better 479 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: in April than he is in September. And we saw 480 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: it once and we saw what happened to the Ravens 481 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: the next year when they defended. I mean they chose 482 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: to get right. Sure, is John Elway given any of 483 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: you any reason to be skeptical. He didn't give me 484 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: any reason. And he's been to seven Super Bowls and 485 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: say Sanchez will be the starter, and that's a problem, 486 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: but that he went out and swung for the fence 487 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: with the prospect exactly. They have an exciting young prospect. 488 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: What more can you ask for? One? One thing I 489 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: think you can question. I think he's been obviously one 490 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: of the best executives in the league since he came in. 491 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: One thing he really knows he needed and he's talked 492 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: about this a little bit. He needs to start having 493 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: good drafts and he just traded. You know, he got 494 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback, so he just lost another pick in this draft. 495 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: His best player drafted over the last three years is 496 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: who Bradley Roby. Well, like Taylor considers him one of 497 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: the top three cornerbacks in the NFL. Right, I think 498 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby is a good as a pretty good player, 499 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have put many impact players that was 500 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: drafted four years ago more than some teams. Though. Elway 501 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: used free agency more than other GM would and he 502 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: built an excellent team. He just was talking about that 503 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: he needs to start replenishing it with some draft picks 504 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: because they're they're a little bit thinner, uh than you 505 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: would expect. The crazy thing. The thing I love about 506 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Alway though, is there's still that like competitive player to him, 507 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's any mistake. The second he 508 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: makes this pick, he goes on the record and says, 509 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: we're out of the Kaepernick sweet sweep stakes. And to me, 510 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: that is like, you best around with us long enough, Kaepernick, 511 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: You're done. Um, all right, So that's the big news 512 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: with the defending Super Bowl champions. Let's now move to 513 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: another team in the a f C uh, the f 514 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: C North that is they are the Cleveland Browns and um, Mark, Um, 515 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: you are a Browns fan and um, you know the 516 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Browns when it comes to draft day. Uh, they're always 517 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: always good for entertainment, full of hot from stock to finish, 518 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: delivers on the great tension of the NFL draft while 519 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: showing how human the entire process is. Oh God, Mark 520 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Cessila NFL dot com, you're out of your mind. Yeah 521 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: that already. Um, I cannot stand any of you. I 522 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: blocked whoever sent that to me? And yes, because right 523 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: it was like six and the more for a little 524 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: bit of history. That's when the movie Draft in two 525 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen about the Browns came out. Mark was something 526 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: from our review was taken well used as a press 527 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: So what what Dan red was actually used as a unfortunately, 528 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: and listen when we came out of that movie with 529 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: you guys, and I said, a solid bee and that's 530 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: what West I slid. I think it's it's been maligned. 531 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I get it. But then I tweeted something saying, you know, 532 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: we saw it, we liked it, and the company, the 533 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: production and company wrote d M me basically and said 534 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: can you write something? And I went on vacation immediately after, 535 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I had a couple of glasses of wine and my 536 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: parents house and wrote this paragraph about the movie, and 537 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: they cobbled together parts of it and created that sentence 538 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: now that said I did type it. I should never 539 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: have done it, and I'm not living it down even still. 540 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: And I thought that guy that sent that, I will 541 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: unblock him. It's not a person. But I saw right 542 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: away I saw Dan likes it. West Like said, I said, 543 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna end up on the show, So I'm 544 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna block it until the show passes and it's still 545 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: got on the show. Brandon, you're in my TV zone 546 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: right now. By the way, you got to own it. 547 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: This is genuinely funny. You should enjoy for you it 548 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: is Greg. I actually did for the usual. I privately, 549 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: I am Greg this morning because I didn't want. I 550 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: thought it would be funny because it was we haven't 551 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: seen it in a while, the blurb. So when somebody like, 552 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: oh man, that is if I think we bring up 553 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: on the pod and Mark, we'll get too angry, and 554 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: and Greg said, no, he'll be all right. It's innocent. 555 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: I actually I am not angry, but didn't had day 556 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: been a disaster. I would not have enjoyed that. I'm 557 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: fine with it, but the day wasn't It was not? 558 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: Was it? Mark? Because the Cleveland Browns traded out of 559 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: the top ten. So the Browns are going nuts. Uh? 560 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: Of course they started this draft with what the second pick, 561 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: they traded down to number eight, got a bunch of 562 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: picks from the Eagles, and then they traded out again 563 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans, uh, to the number fifteen pick, 564 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: and then they get exactly the type of guy they needed, 565 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: didn't they? Mark? Well? After years of Ray Farmers saying 566 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: I look around the league and teams proved to me 567 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: that you don't need to draft wide receivers. We're just 568 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna pick them up off the street or the local 569 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: high school or whatever it is. And finally, with Hugh 570 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Jackson and House in the new front office, they said 571 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: that is not how you win in the NFL. We're 572 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna get a playmaker, and they got Corey Coleman from Baylor, 573 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: who Dan and Dan's father in law have watched plenty 574 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: of And Dan, you know more about him than I do. 575 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: You love the guy. I am not a guy that 576 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: knows a lot about you know, the college. See I 577 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: follow it. The closest off follows follow college football, uh 578 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: is when uh, my wife's parents come into town, which 579 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: is once every you know, two months or so, and 580 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I always end up watching Baylor games and then I'll 581 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: occasionally catch them alone as well, because I am intrigued 582 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: by them because my wife's entire family went to that school. 583 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: And Corey Coleman was a guy that jumped out at 584 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: me every time I watched them because it was like 585 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: a man against boys, where it seemed like every game 586 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: he had two fifty yard touchdowns. And Bob Bates, uh dds. 587 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: My father in law actually, Mark texted me after the 588 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: pick and he said, and he's a big time Baylor guy. 589 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Bob Bates is such a big Baylor guy that he 590 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: has season tickets to the men's basketball, women's basketball, men's football, 591 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: and I think the baseball and softball programs. This is 592 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: what he's retired. And uh his text to me, Corey 593 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: and r G three are going to the Super Bowl. 594 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: Tell Mark there is hope for the Browns and a 595 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: third Bailer player. It's just snipping very easily into into 596 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: the troll seat. But I mean, honestly, if you get 597 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: if you get Josh Gordon back. You have three bailer 598 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: players out there, but here's the player's side, and and 599 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: they talked about him being the number one receiver on 600 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: their board when they mine down the board to get 601 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: them and they and they got their guy. But in 602 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: the next two drafts off of these trades, they get 603 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: an extra third round, two fourth rounders, a two thousand 604 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: seventeen first, a two thousand eighteen second, and another eleven 605 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: picks in this draft. So people are asking one another 606 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: second next year too. It's because the trades today, people 607 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: are asking, what is the front office gonna be about? 608 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: O Kinsashi Brown handle It's gonna handle it when the 609 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: phone starts. I would say that that he's that he's 610 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: done an excellent job. The whole group of them together 611 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: has done a job where they have not. They haven't 612 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: gotten fleeced in any of these trades. I think they've 613 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: gotten value you and they got a player that Hugh 614 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Jackson obviously likes. You checked all my boxes. I'm fine, 615 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm out. I like this electric Josh McCown to Corey 616 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Coleman connection. And I don't know about that. And there's 617 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot more pieces than need to be put in. 618 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: It's funny because I do remember Mark, you said what 619 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: like it was just three weeks ago or four weeks ago, 620 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: they were like, are they gonna just trade down again 621 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: and put it all off. I wanted Carson Wentz. I 622 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: wanted him, but I I'm really to go with their 623 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: vision and I see that they are truly building the 624 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: roster from the ground up. You have to and that 625 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: is that's a good call because um this this by 626 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: all counts, especially if if if um he becomes Corey 627 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Coleman becomes a star receiver, it will be seen as 628 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: a good first round for the Browns. But Carson Wentz 629 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: becomes a stud, the Browns will never live it down. 630 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: So that all remains to be seen. But they went. 631 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: They filled the need, and it's for a franchise that 632 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: lacks any excitement. Now you have a guy West. I 633 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: think you read that there were some comparisons to Odell Beckham, 634 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: you know that type of playmaker. Potentially Rhoda World, which 635 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: is really good on draft coverage. They study this stuff 636 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: religiously from didn't you guys build that brick by brick 637 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: craically you exaggerate that, you're exaggerate that r World had 638 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: this effusive praise comparing him to Odell Beckham that in 639 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: college outplayed everyone else in the field. And we also 640 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: heard DJ compare him to Steve Smith. Those are some 641 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: great names to be compared to. Yeah, he's a fun 642 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: player to watch with the ball in his hands. Uh, 643 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 1: you know from what I've seen it. I mean, well, 644 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: then they have one of those, right, Uh. And there's 645 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: there's you forgot about may Mark one and a half. 646 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: I can make a bunch of players with bau Mahn, 647 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: including get an end zone. I'm Cleisen, Mike Cleisen one 648 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: and a half, players like that. Like we think that 649 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: these trades like the Ricky Williams trade or the Herschel 650 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Walker trade doesn't happen anymore, and and they don't. But 651 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: for that number to pick in a couple of years, 652 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: we will look at the six players that the Browns 653 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: picked up and we'll we'll see if how how good 654 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: those six players are. But that's what they turned that into. 655 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: And they're all first three round picks, so that that's 656 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: pretty impressive that they're gonna get six players for that pick. 657 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: And you just hope, you could hope they could do it. 658 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: And the Titans you know, who knows how good Jack 659 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Conklin is gonna be. I thought when they were trading 660 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: back up, they were going to trade up for tounsl 661 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: and that I think that's two spots where you look 662 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: back and you think that's what where Tonso would have 663 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: been taken. Because the d D Kinkawala reported for NFL 664 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Network that the Ravens were going to take Tonsil at six, 665 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: but because of the video, they took Stanley. The Titans 666 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: were pretty closely linked to Tonsil at number one, and 667 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: they trade up for Conklin. So that's two different spots 668 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: where you would have seen Tounsil go. Maybe maybe the 669 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Titans won't look good there that they maybe they got 670 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: two freaked out m I don't know, not the Titans 671 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: um So Corey. Corey him in the first wide receiver 672 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: off the board, gentleman, but he wasn't the last. But 673 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: there was something that historic happened in this draft. UH 674 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: and it happened UH late in the first round. Specifically, 675 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: UH picks twenty one through twenty three, three consecutive wide 676 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: outs come off the board. That's never happened before. The 677 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: Texans move switch move up one spot with the Redskins 678 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: uh and take Will Fuller the white out out of 679 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Uh. Then the Redskins take Josh Dotson um 680 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: from TCU, and then the Vikings and uh my vic 681 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: close Vikings friend Greg back from home in the coal mines. 682 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: Very excited on text when the Vikings got Lakan Treadwell 683 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: from Ole miss a guy that we were seeing in 684 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: uh some moxes being the first guy for first wide 685 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: out off the board. So the Vikings get Treadwell, which 686 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: is a big pick up for them because I don't know, 687 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: you know how big a fan people are in this 688 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: room of Stefan Diggs, But he's done. He did some 689 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: nice things last year, but he's not a stud. You 690 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: add another receiver there and you're starting to get somewhere 691 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: with that offense because it's a big year for Teddy Bridgewater. Well, 692 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: the thing with Stefon Diggs and last year with Mike 693 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: Wallace too, was they were pushed around those wide receivers 694 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: weren't physical in any way. And that's basically the book 695 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: on Treadwell, that he is physical. I think he's the 696 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: perfect fit for them. I mean he is built in 697 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: a way where he got some comparisons to an Ankwan 698 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Bold and he's not a speedster, but he is a 699 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: at the point of catch, very physical exactly. I love 700 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: watching him. They don't have that they don't have. Is 701 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: anyone surprised though, that Treadwell was. I think with wide receiver, 702 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: it's a position where teams looks specifically for someone that 703 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: fits their current system, and that could be one guy 704 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: versus the next. Maybe it's not the universally most talented guy. 705 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: But for Treadwell to go forth, I was surprised. He 706 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: ran a four six. That's the thing. People people get 707 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: so caught up on that, just like Bold and ran 708 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: a four six and that killed his draft stock. He 709 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: even go in the first round. I think I think 710 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: that hurt him, and I didn't think people thought he 711 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: was that far ahead of the rest of the group. 712 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: He and Ian tweeted that, um, the Vikings think he's 713 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna pick up speed, He's gonna get faster because he 714 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: had that gruesome leg injury a year ago, so he's 715 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: another year removed from that. And dread Will gets the 716 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: award by the way of the most bummed out interview 717 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: post draft interview. Uh, he was pretty upset when Dion 718 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: was talking with him because he just didn't have a 719 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: lot to say, didn't have a smile on his face. 720 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Some of these guys they gotta, you know, have a 721 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: little more perspective though, because he still ended up going uh, 722 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, number of twenty three in the entire NFL 723 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: draft and he you know, his life just changed. But 724 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: you know, there's ego involved here, and he was he 725 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: thought he'd be the first one off and he ended 726 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: up being the fourth guy off amongst the whiteouts. Yeah, 727 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: I mean he's thinking of who did the Vikings take 728 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: seventh overall or whatever. I mean, there's been some receivers 729 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: without great college resumes they've gotten taken a lot higher. 730 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: So you get disappointed. But he gets to play indoors. 731 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: You know that a good thing. Shout out to Michael Berger, 732 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: remember for his little pressure points the wide receiver run 733 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: that he uh basically called in the early twenties, he 734 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: did and he happened. Burger is a Bengals fan. You 735 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: have to look at the Bengals as a loser in 736 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: that dynamic because and maybe it's because Corey Coleman went 737 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: to the Browns up at fifteen. You have three in 738 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: a Row to the Redskins Vikings, or to the Texans 739 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: Redskins and Vikings, And it's the Bengals who really needed 740 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: a wide receiver at number twenty four and they did 741 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: not get one. Probably one last thing on tred Well 742 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: from connor worst Twitter account. They asked him about seeing 743 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: single coverage being in the offense with Adrian Peterson and 744 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: he answered, sounds like the Super Bowl to me. I 745 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: like it. I like it a little premaxcited, a little premature. Potentially, 746 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: what do you guys think the Redskins? Uh, there was 747 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: some pop and uh. I think Mayock talked about it 748 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and some on Twitter people were surprised 749 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: that they didn't focus on defense more. They seemed to 750 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: not have a big problem scoring points last year with 751 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: Cousins breakout year, but they went wide receiver and fuller 752 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: have a ton of whiteouts. Right, it's a position of strength. 753 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you have Pierre Garsan, you had, you have 754 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson, and you've got a great rookie receiver. Uh 755 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: last year in um Jamison Crowder roberts Y gonna be 756 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: on that team. I think it just says Pierre Garson 757 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: and or Deshan Jackson is not on this next year. 758 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: But people thought in two thousand sixteen or two two 759 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen, people thought maybe one of those two guys, 760 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: especially Jackson, could be a surprise cut this year. And 761 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: now now it seems like one of those two guys 762 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: will almost certainly be not good news for six string 763 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: white out Lauren Bird. Lauren Birds like Damn bro banged 764 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: former Arizona cardinal Lauren Bird. Well, he may have to 765 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: go back to the Cardinals. Wait, did you say gyros 766 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: bird spire a little bit of a stretch. It is 767 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: his cousin, but they just need to let the Redskins 768 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: need to let that guy fly though. All right, he's 769 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: all the way down there. They just need to let 770 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: him go, let him fly. That's true. I mean, this 771 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: is kirk Cousins. If ever, they maybe they're just worried 772 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: about the kirk Cousins backslide. They're gonna present prevent it. 773 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got about as many weapons as anyone going. Yeah, 774 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: that's fair. Uh, let's talk about so we talked about, Um, 775 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: you had Vernon Davis to that group watch out, alright, 776 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: let's count down the bridge too far? Greg uh, do 777 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: you actually buy an on a vern now? But they 778 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: have Jordan Read and like four weapon good wide receivers 779 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: now and Matt Jones he did Vernon Davis did tweet 780 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: out a picture of his body recently banging Bob and 781 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: that's never been an issue. Very well built. But does 782 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: he care about the game of football? We'll find out 783 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: only in the two thousand sixteen NFL season sponsored by 784 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: America exclusively on NFL exclusive. Well that's not true, but 785 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: somewhat on NFL network. Um alright, so yes, Laramie Tunsil, 786 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: he drops down, uh the draft board to thirteen. But 787 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: he should, he should, you know, count his blessings whatever 788 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: that means, because one man that fell completely out of 789 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: the first round. And it's very sad when they cut 790 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: to that green I don't even know if they should 791 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: do the green room thing. It's kind of sad when 792 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: they as the as the round starts to get later 793 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: and these guys there after walking the red carpet in 794 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: the weeks of hype. Now they've they're getting in their mind. 795 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure they feel embarrassed they're not being picked. You 796 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: gotta have drama for the casual fans. That's fair, okay, 797 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking from a human standpoint. That's all 798 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: Miles Jack, who, of course people have said is a 799 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: real potential all pro talent, but also a guy with 800 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: a knee injury, uh that I believe rap Sheet reported 801 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: this morning, which really spooked me when it came the 802 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: Jets time to pick. Uh. That is not expected by uh, 803 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: multiple teams to last to a second contract. So you're 804 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: talking about a guy that might have a shelf life 805 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: of four or five years because of the damage in 806 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: his knee. Uh. Enough teams were spooked that he did 807 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: not go in the first round, which was a surprise 808 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: because and a lot of mocks and a lot of 809 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: people speculated he was a guy that can go anywhere 810 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: from you know, eight to fifteen, maybe to twenty range. 811 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: But the idea that he felt all the way out, 812 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: that was one of the big surprises in the first round. Yeah, 813 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: and he basically admitted that the potential is there for 814 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: microfracture surgery. And Darren Gannet Pro Football Talk s Dave 815 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: Gettleman if he was surprised that Myles Jack was still 816 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 1: on the board late in the first round, and Gettleman 817 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: said not after what he said today after he admitted 818 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: that the microfracture was a possibility to potential landing spots 819 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: if teams. You know, there's a lot of risks there, 820 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: but a team like the Cowboys at number three in 821 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: the second round or maybe the Ravens at number five. 822 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though he played last year, It's not 823 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: like he's coming off of a crazy injury. I mean, 824 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: he was the number two player on DJ's big board 825 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: based on his play and nothing has really changed since then. 826 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: Now that I'm I'm not saying I know anything more medically. 827 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Obviously the medical current concerns are massive, but he was 828 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: just playing football at an extremely high level. And you 829 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: do wonder sometimes these guys fall too far because this 830 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: stuff started. Little lality Is is one guy that everyone 831 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: got spooked about his physical issues right before the draft. 832 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: It ends up it hasn't been an issue at all 833 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: for him, So who knows. It seems like a guy 834 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: just based on his skill set that he can do everything, 835 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: that he can cover, that he can be you know, 836 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: he can track, and that he's worth a shot you know, 837 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: in the second round. Doesn't seem like he's gonna go 838 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: too much for it. Reminds me of de Kwon Bowers, 839 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: who was being talked about is the first pick overall 840 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: in the draft and slid to what late in the 841 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: second round? That doctors what doctor said the same thing. 842 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: This guy's going to need microfraction, and you know what, 843 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: with him, the slide was warranted. He never really was 844 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: an explosive player. So who knows. That's sad, though it 845 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: is sad. It is said. Also someone that fell down 846 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: the first round a little bit, Um, Robert gimdic defensive tackle. 847 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: Uh from miss it goes to the Arizona Cardinals. Old, 848 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: excuse me? Of course I knew that. Uh. He goes 849 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals, the defending NFC West champions. That 850 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: feels like a nice fit, um, but there is a 851 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: lesson to be learned, uh that we we were ahead 852 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: of the curve on this. We knew this could be 853 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: a problem. Um, So let's just have some fun and 854 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit, saying Kim d check, 855 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: im T check empty ch Why did you fall out 856 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: that window? D M d J kim d J kim 857 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: d J. Why did you fall out that windo hit 858 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: almost certainly affected your draft stock? You fell down the 859 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: board as well. That's it, irish. I dare say that 860 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: is by far your finest piece of music. Yeah, and 861 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: you've had many songs that you've sung on this podcast 862 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: that that almost sounded profession I'd agree. I think that 863 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: somehow that song needs to get to him because it's 864 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: gonna lift his spirits. I'd say something else more of 865 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: us should fall out windows if what it means is 866 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: you wind up with the Cardinals, because there's no better 867 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: team in the league right now that the Cardinals. They 868 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: can do this. By the way, if I get drafted 869 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: next year, that's gonna be my walk up song drafted 870 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: into what Dan sung well, just in case drafted to 871 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: bleach your report. Listen, the Cardinals did the same thing 872 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: with Tyrone with you, right, they take Honey Badger or 873 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: a team that just rolls down draft boards. We can't 874 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: handle this guy's too unmanageable. And Arians has shown that 875 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: when he trusts a player and he likes them, and 876 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: if Steve times on board, they completely altered that guy's career. 877 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: This is a perfect landing spot because no risk it, 878 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: no biscuit. I think, unlike Honey Baster setting you up, 879 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: by the way, to at the same time say no biscuits. 880 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: So why don't you let's try it again? Go ahead, West? No, 881 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: why no risk it? He starts, and then you and 882 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: then you say at the same time, no biscuit. No, 883 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: no biscuit. West, You're supposed to say it too. This 884 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: is a mess alright. One more. Why does only Dan 885 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: know what's supposed to happen? Maybe that's what is organically? 886 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: What was not what I was saying, appreciate your vision, 887 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: all right, well I'll be I'll be the role. Why 888 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: am I getting no biscuit and high five? I don't 889 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: know why I got bumped from that skit. I certainly 890 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: gave you many tries there. Well. The second was on West, 891 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: Speaking of which you mentioned the walk up songs, Greg, 892 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: did you have any anybody have any takeaways on the 893 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: walk up songs? The one that which we published exclusively 894 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com about thirty minutes before the start 895 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: of the draft. Every draft prospect gets to select their 896 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: own song is usually hip hop heavy. Uh. Speaking of him, 897 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: d J, who fell out that window, he had by 898 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: far the most interesting intriguing choice, Lazarus, which was the 899 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: first single in the final um first single from David 900 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: Bowie before his death. He went with Lazarus, which is 901 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: kind of like a slow um, you know, low tempo, 902 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: some longing saxophone in there. Just a really interesting choice 903 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: by Kim d who was an interesting dude. Very interesting 904 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: that that's the most interesting team in the league. Unlike 905 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: Honey Badger like people have questioned his effort level sometimes 906 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: and certainly his production in college was not like a 907 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: Honey Badger type where he was producing a lot all 908 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: the time. But man, that's a fun team. As as 909 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: for the walk up songs, you know, I recognize six 910 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: or so, which is was a bigger number than last year, 911 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm getting I threw out, well, 912 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: there are a couple of songs that are not from 913 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: this decade in there too, So I threw out a 914 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: way to find out how cool you are, which is you. 915 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: There's twenty six songs here and then multiply how many 916 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, by four scale one to a hundred um. 917 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: So if you can get you know, like a seventy five, 918 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: that's really good because a lot of this is you know, 919 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be a young cat, although you know, like 920 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,479 Speaker 1: uh I do. Jack Conchole, the Offensive tackle a Big 921 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: Gun by a C d C one of the only 922 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: rock tracks on this. I like that he didn't go 923 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: with like a two on the Nose, a C d 924 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: C song, Um Reggie Raglan. Maybe that's why I didn't 925 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: get drafted p s A by day Z. That's a 926 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: good choice pick. We gotta retire that. Teams don't like that? 927 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: What oh? Yeah? Who which one had a Jets pick? Right, 928 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: wasn't it? Yeah? Where is he? Public service announcement? Yeah? 929 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: I love that's one of my favorite jay Z according 930 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: to your formula, couldn't be any less cool. But I'm 931 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: not sure that's that. I measure it by based on 932 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: draft picks and their little songs. Yeah. Is it fitting 933 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz with went with flyover states? Yeah? I 934 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: saw a lot A lot of people have a similar comment. 935 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 1: Jason al Dean, who's a country artist, I believe because 936 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: North Dakota is a flyover state, exactly given all out 937 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: and Jared Goffwin with California love. Hey, let's do a 938 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: little uh eight o'clock to light alright, this I We'll 939 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna throw it around you guys. I'm 940 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: just gonna a draft pick at at random. Mark Sessler, 941 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff number one pick to the Rams. I like it. 942 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: It cements the fact the way that the Rams used 943 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: the full time to do this and wait at all 944 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: up until tonight to make this pick, that the NFL 945 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: and the Rams are absolutely in love with each other 946 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: and it is a beautiful romance. Does it feel like 947 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't say this. It's a little ridiculous on 948 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: an NFL. Uh, you know, property doesn't feel like the 949 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: fix was in a little bit this whole thing. They 950 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: got the number one pick the first year in l A. 951 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: I say no more. I will shut up us. Approaching 952 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: Chris Westling Eli Apple New York Giants. Yeah, I don't 953 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: know how much about him. He's a young guy. They 954 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: need cornerbacks. Good pick. I guess the guy is good 955 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. They need to keep adding defensive parts, 956 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: and he is good in the kitchen, as we know. 957 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: Karl Joseph Safety, Oakland Raiders pick fourteen. West Again. Scouts 958 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: love this guy. They cannot be more effusive in their phrase. 959 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: He's at torpedo basically combines Bob Sanders hard hitting with 960 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas's range and Drew comparisons to Brian Dawkins, I 961 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: love everything about this pick. Didn't get knocked at off 962 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: for terrying his a c l. It happened in the 963 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: fourth game of the year. He expects to be ready 964 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 1: for training camp. I love it. Greg Rose withal pick 965 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: six with the Ravens. Ronnie Stanley tackle it or Notre 966 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: Dame Oh Ronnie. A lot of people. A lot of 967 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: people didn't think there's a huge difference between Ronnie Stanley 968 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: and Tonso. But this is a pick. If Tonso is 969 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: better than Stanley, the Ravens will be questioning themselves because 970 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 1: they wanted tons of more. Uh. New York Jets picked 971 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: twenty Darren Lee, outside linebacker Ohio State Dan Well, this 972 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: is what I have to say about this one. I 973 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: think they needed an outside linebacker. I'm happy they passed 974 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: on Paxton Lynch. I'm happy they passed on Lyle Jack. 975 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about this guy, but he's 976 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be fast. The Jets needed speed, and I 977 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: trust Todd Bowls' vision. We haven't anybody who could get 978 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: to the quarterback since John Abraham was in town. That 979 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: was over a decade ago, since they traded him to Atlanta. 980 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: So maybe this is the guy. Their defense is gonna 981 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: be a hell of a lot better with a true 982 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: pass rusher Us Westling. In the Indianapolis Colts selected center 983 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly out of Alabama eighteen. Another pick. I love. 984 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Andrew luck is the most hit quarterback in the NFL 985 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: since he entered the league. They've not been able to 986 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,479 Speaker 1: fix their offensive blind problems. This guy was the best 987 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: interior line in the and the Saturday to Andrew lux 988 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: Peyton Nanny, Oh, I like that. DJ really liked that 989 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: one too. He said, plug him in at center guard. 990 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: He'll be a stud. Pittsburgh Steelers take a man named 991 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: Already Burns. It sounds like he's an eighty year old 992 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: man playing pe knuckle in Miami, but he's actually a 993 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: young cornerback from Miami. The Steelers took twenty five. I 994 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: think he owns Vesuvio and sopranos. Already Burns, doesn't he know? Oh, 995 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: the bit cost you? So we prefer the big objector 996 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: seated out of that game. I don't know. I give 997 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: you a little ram seat and then let's go West, 998 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: Greg West, West, Greg. Right, it's our podcast. We can 999 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: tell whatever we wants, unless I want to take You 1000 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: know what, I like the Bengals. He's finish your soliloquy already. 1001 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Burns was a guy a lot of people that have 1002 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: in the first couple of rounds boom er bust, like massive, 1003 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: physical guy that the Steelers are just taking a chance 1004 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: on in the secondary. It feels like they always do 1005 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 1: this and it never works with They're terrible taking secondary players, 1006 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: but they keep going after the thing. Well, let's talk 1007 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: about one thing. The best playoff game from last year, 1008 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: Steelers Bengals. Both teams still better. The Bengals didn't get 1009 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: their wide receiver, so they go and take William Jackson 1010 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: right before Pittsburgh picks another cornerback. And maybe that's the 1011 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: guy that Pittsburgh wanted. You stick it to the Steelers 1012 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: and I can always get behind that Sessler fired up tonight. 1013 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: By the way, Well you weren't in love with the 1014 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: forty Niners either that they traded back into the first round. 1015 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: Shout out to Connie Fox by the way for picking 1016 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,760 Speaker 1: up some sandwiches on that one is taken to uh 1017 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: to Sam, Well, that's but I DeForest Buckner though. Yeah, 1018 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: that guy looks like an old Testament hero is like 1019 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: a foot and a half taller than everyone else around him. 1020 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: He is a badass. I love that pick and the 1021 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: Old Testament. We're like four ft. I know there's always 1022 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: someone that emerges like a like eighteen inches taller than 1023 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: am I crazier. He played with Eric Armstead in college 1024 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: and they were twin towers wreckers in college, and Armstead 1025 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: was a good pick by them last year. Now you 1026 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: get them back together again. But like that that, you've 1027 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: got bookend Calais Campbell's now something like that. Um, we 1028 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 1: should get out of here. But before we go, we'll 1029 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: dig into the no. I want to hear everyone go 1030 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: around the room and talk about Jermaine a FEEDI I 1031 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: only speak about him in private. Well, it's the first 1032 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: first round pick for the Seahawks. Um, we will get 1033 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: into the sandwich proper results uh on Saturday Saturday Night show. 1034 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: That's when we'll be back. After round seven. We should 1035 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: do a little bit of business. We gave the Irishman 1036 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: another chance, um to ask a question after his great 1037 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: disaster of last Monday, and the Irishman, Uh, why don't 1038 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: you throw it out there, Brandon? What is your prop? 1039 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: Your proper prop? Notre dame linebacker Jalen Smith will be 1040 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: drafted in a first or second round. All right, so 1041 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: we're halfway home in terms of this wager. Greg and 1042 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: I both took the irishman up on that one. West 1043 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: and Mark sat it out. Well, we we did, we 1044 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: did more research, and well you you got you got 1045 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: jobbed a little bit by all the time. You know 1046 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: that we had because initially I was the only one 1047 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: that was gonna take it. I just misunderstood. I called 1048 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 1: these guys out for being chumps, that you're just giving 1049 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 1: away sandwiches. And then they were like, oh yeah, there's 1050 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: no chance Brandon's gonna be right called the sandwiches. He's 1051 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: got something drop foot right. He literally made I'd say 1052 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: you played the game poorly because had you just said, 1053 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel good about this point I 1054 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: take it, I would have been like, I'm definitely not 1055 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: taking it. Then Greg was like you fools, and so 1056 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: I started to do more reach it doesn't take sandwiches 1057 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: and made way for me. As as long as it's 1058 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: just given you know, you can have your sandwiches, that's fine, Dan, Dan, 1059 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: I have to tell you something real quick though. What 1060 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: I talked to my lovely mother. After I said that, 1061 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: and she said she listened to the podcast, and so 1062 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: what did you think about mine? All she sent back 1063 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 1: was not mad, just disappointed. No joke, it seems appropriate. 1064 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for the support on Reddit, though, people saw 1065 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: where I was coming from. About four of them. Yeah, 1066 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: you found four people on the entire internet that actually 1067 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: liked that. I'm up to two hands now. Those more 1068 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 1: people will never be allowed to make lunch propositions, all right, 1069 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 1: So we'll track that one. Yeah, we'll go through the 1070 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: rest of them on Saturday's show. Maybe. I don't know 1071 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: if we'll be able to do Kevin Patrick, who's in Chicago, 1072 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick coming at you. We get him on the 1073 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 1: line Saturday, but he good chance he'll be very drunk 1074 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: by the time we uh wrap up our report. Well 1075 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: her drinks in the morning. Well, by the way, he's 1076 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: working all day, he'd better not be drinking at ten 1077 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: in the morning, he's writing posts. I don't know if 1078 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: he'll be drunk, I should say, but I think he 1079 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: made a comment that he would be in a bar 1080 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: when we were actually recording. I assume he'll be drunk 1081 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: at the bar. It's a it's a very safe bet, 1082 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: which is fine. Just do not don't wear the gas mask. 1083 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: All right, We'll be back on Saturday night with a 1084 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: complete draft UM recap, will do some winners and losers. 1085 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: We'll check out our sandwich props. It's gonna be a 1086 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: great time. Thank you for everyone for listening. Uh make 1087 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: sure uh to check us out on iTunes and leave 1088 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: comments and five star ratings. Let's goose the iTunes machine 1089 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: hashtag iTunes challenge. Uh. This is That's it for today's show. 1090 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: This is Dan hands is signing up four Quiet Storm, 1091 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, and the Irishman behind the Glass 1092 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: until the weekend. Full of Hot from stock to finish, 1093 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: delivers on the great tension of the NFL draft while 1094 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: showing how human the entire process is. Mark Cecilia, NFL 1095 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: dot com, you're out of your mind. Yeah I am 1096 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: having I proved that already