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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to a bonus episode of I Saw.

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Speaker 2: What You Did.

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Speaker 1: My name is Milly to Jericho.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we haven't done that in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Babe, you realize that we should start every episode with

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Speaker 1: a burp.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, I know, I'm chunking diet cocaine. Eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. I'm Danielle Henderson, gross as I am.

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Speaker 1: We're back, baby, we are fucking back. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to pure filth.

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Speaker 1: We need to just isolate that and just I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it as my ringtone from now on.

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Speaker 2: Well good, it just happened. I felt it, and I

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Speaker 2: went with it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. If I man, if I could have

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Speaker 1: had one cooking, if I had one on deck, it

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Speaker 1: would have been there. We would have been like Simpotico

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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 2: Way, we could trade off each episode each bonus like

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Speaker 2: I burp you BP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could?

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Speaker 2: I have you?

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Speaker 1: Were you ever able to burp on command?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Were you one of these kids in middle school that

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Speaker 1: was like I could just burp whenever I well.

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Speaker 2: No, And I envied them for my entire life. I

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Speaker 2: mean people who were just like they could gulp air

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Speaker 2: and burp. Yeah, oh I tried. I'm like, teach me

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Speaker 2: your tricks. What do you do? How do you do it?

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Speaker 2: Are you swallowing air a certain way? No one could

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Speaker 2: explain it to me in a way that I could

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Speaker 2: never was expelled, But I would have been expelled if

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Speaker 2: I'd known that trick.

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Speaker 1: There was like a there was like like a whole

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Speaker 1: host of things that like every kid could do in

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Speaker 1: middle school that I couldn't. Like I couldn't do an

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Speaker 1: armpit fart. I don't know why I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it was like perhaps it's genetic.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I could never do an

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Speaker 2: for you. Can you armpit fart?

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Speaker 1: And then she's gonna be like no, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be like I know it's it's in my blood. I'm

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Speaker 2: You know what else is in our blood? Fucking answering

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Speaker 2: emails from listeners.

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Speaker 1: I know it is truly in the blood. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 1: had some good We've got some good emails this week.

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Speaker 1: Some someone's are like rule thought from provoking. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: the first one. Hi, Millie and Danielle. First, let me

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Speaker 1: say how much I love your podcast. I love your friendship,

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Speaker 1: and I love how you talk about movies with each other.

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Speaker 1: As someone who isn't necessarily a movie person, you make

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Speaker 1: easy to understand what you're talking about. My name is Sidney.

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Speaker 1: My pronouns are she her. I'm a person who loves

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Speaker 1: the idea of movies and films, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: great cinematography and old Hollywood actresses. You are truly doing

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sydney.

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Speaker 2: I personally don't don't have ADHD or social anxiety, but

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Speaker 1: Let me say this though, And I don't know why

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Speaker 1: That's it. And then like you and that if your

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Speaker 2: It's also like that's a fun documentary to see, like

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that was helpful, Sidney, thank you so much for writing.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sydney, we got another good one. The subject is

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Speaker 2: blowing me away. The subject is can movies breed kindness? Hey,

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Speaker 2: Milly and Danielle just finished listening to Complex Sensual Humanity,

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Speaker 2: where Danielle shared her experience with an unhinged crosswalk blocker.

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Speaker 2: This got me thinking about my own experiences with assholes.

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Speaker 2: And while I wholeheartedly agree that basic compassion is at

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Speaker 2: an all time low in society, I realized my own

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Speaker 2: behavior has recently shifted towards kindness. This change resulted from

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Speaker 2: watching the television show Better Things. I highly recommend this show,

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Speaker 2: especially the post Luisk seasons. One of the many things

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Speaker 2: that make this show special is that Pamela Adlon took

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Speaker 2: time in writing, acting, and directing scenes that capture moments

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Speaker 2: of kindness and joy in each episode. I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: until today and began thinking if there were movies that

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Speaker 2: had a similar impact. I thought of many movies that

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Speaker 2: have brought joy, Amie, It Happened One Night, etc. But

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Speaker 2: none that sparked change in this way. My question for

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Speaker 2: your behaviors or actions? Love the pods so much. Thank

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Speaker 2: you both for the commentary, the laughs, and the movies.

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Speaker 2: Please also let us Apple rejectors know where to leave

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Speaker 2: our five star reviews Handy, thank you Candy for writing in.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you shit about fuck when it comes

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Speaker 2: But I'd say check your whatever app you're using and

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Speaker 2: maybe see if that's the place where they allow reviews.

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Speaker 2: But I love this question. Can movies breed kindness and

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Speaker 2: the things that you watch impacting your behavior?

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Speaker 1: Yes, hopefully that was some kind of answer for you, Candy.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell is this The subject line of this

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Speaker 1: Love the show and never missed an episode. I have

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Speaker 1: a random question for you both. We are big fans

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Speaker 2: What if we only did one or the other? What

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Speaker 1: that possible? Can you laugh?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

436
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: Have you ever laughed with somebody you hate?

437
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: Not with someone I hate? Absolutely not. I will never

438
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: give that. I wouldn't give them that. Yeah, it's like

439
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: you're giving your joy to something evil. No.

440
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because most people I hate are

441
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: deeply unfunny, so I would never laugh with them because

442
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: they don't tell good jokes and whatnot.

443
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

444
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: That just seems like hmm, I don't know if I'd

445
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: ever laugh and hate, So I guess it's just gonna

446
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: have to be we love each other and laugh.

447
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: Sorry, And you know what that means? I mean, I

448
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: hate to break it to you, especially in this way.

449
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 2: I think we are the living embodiment of live laugh, love.

450
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something, bitch, that is rocking

451
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: me to my fucking core.

452
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: So the tattoo I got on my back is solid.

453
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: You've got Sophie eating the bagel, stealing the bague one

454
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: shoulder and live laugh love and like gothic font on

455
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: the other. That's us, Jenny f you nailed us. I

456
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: love the energy of this question. I love a good afternoon.

457
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: I love an animated question. And yes, we love and

458
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: enjoy animated movies. I know this question made me think

459
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: because the studio Ghibli is so good, and a lot

460
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: of people grown as adults included, love those movies because

461
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: they are well done, like My Neighbor Totoro and like

462
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: Spirited Away, and like just such good films. But there

463
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: are a lot of really good animated films that I

464
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: feel like don't get as much attention, or maybe you're

465
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: they're quicker to fall out of cultural favor. I loved

466
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: the animated film Persepolis because I really loved the graphic novel,

467
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: but I thought they did a great job with the

468
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: book or with the film, And same with I don't know,

469
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen Waltz with Basher, I have not. Actually,

470
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: Waltz with Basher is really interesting because it's like this,

471
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: it's like a series of interviews with x Israeli soldiers

472
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: to piece together like what happened during the invasion of

473
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Lebanon in nineteen eighty two, Okay, And it's just it's

474
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: stylish and it's it's kind of like a slice of

475
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: life that you would never really that I would never

476
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: get to experience, like hearing these interviews and seeing them animated,

477
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: so that that kind of you know, there are so

478
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: many good animated films. That is absolutely one of them. Persepolists.

479
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: I think, you know, look, I'll go a Wallace and Grommet.

480
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: You can't stop me from Wallace and Grommitting.

481
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's that tracks knowing you that

482
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: you would definitely love a Wallace and Grommit.

483
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: Come on, one zero percent. I cried through the first

484
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: ten minutes of Up like everybody else. But I think

485
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: that's that's part of it is that like a lot

486
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: of animated films are now produced by big, big, big companies,

487
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: and so it's easy to kind of, you know, to

488
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: have things get lost in the mix that are maybe

489
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more thoughtful or indie, Like, I don't

490
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: know if The Triplets of Belleville is a great animated

491
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: film if you haven't seen it. I haven't seen it

492
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: in a while, but I think it was Academy Award nominated.

493
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: But it's fucking great. It's just a great, weird little film.

494
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: And so yeah, absolutely.

495
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: So here's how I'm gonna answer this one, because I

496
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: gotta be fucking complicated because I don't know why. I'm

497
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: deeply broken. I just am. So I've kind of not

498
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: I kind of have this general opinion of let's just

499
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: say the new animation films like the Pixar era, Okay,

500
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: And I know I catch hell for this amongst people

501
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: my age, because they're like, what is wrong with you

502
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: that you don't watch Pixar movies? Like why don't you

503
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: watch them? And I'm like, because I'm a grown ass

504
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: woman and those movies are for kids. Like I'm just like,

505
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: that's my simple answer for shit, is that, like I'm

506
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: like I was even when I was a kid, I

507
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: didn't watch kids shit, Like I was watching Working Girl.

508
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: Come on, like you're talking to I was watching Working

509
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: Girl and making a fucking file.

510
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: I am broken in that way. I just am like

511
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I was watching just shit that was totally out of

512
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: my age range because I did not want to be

513
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: a child. Apparently I wanted to be a divorced woman

514
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: in her forties, I guess.

515
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: But that's why I wonder if you've tried animated films recently,

516
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: because there are so many Pixar films aside that you

517
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: do not have to have a child next to you

518
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: to enjoy that are made specifically even for adults.

519
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: Yes, like, And that's the thing is, I feel like

520
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: there is that distinction because the movies that you've talked about,

521
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: stuff like you know, Persepales, Waking Life, you know, like

522
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that that are being made by you know,

523
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: like whatever Indie slash Art directors or whatever, those feel

524
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: very grown up to me. And I have seen some

525
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: of those films and enjoyed them. Sure, I think it's

526
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: more just like you know, going to see the fucking

527
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Minions movie on opening night with like grown people like

528
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: And having said that, I just watched the newest Minions

529
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: film with my nephews and fucking thought it was enjoyable.

530
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I was like, this is fun. It's fun to watch

531
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: them with my nephews. But am I calling my buds

532
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: like Friday night having a drink before going to see

533
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: fucking the Rise of Grow. I'm like, no, I'm just

534
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: not that person. And I don't know why I'm not

535
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: that person. I'm like, I just can't go and watch

536
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: shit for kids. It's just not my thing.

537
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: But well, I agree with you there, because like, I'm

538
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: not going rushing out to see that movie. If it

539
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: comes on TV, I'll watch it, but I'm not running

540
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 2: out there to see the Rise of Grew? Which what

541
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: that's the title?

542
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: I love that Isn't it called the Rise of Grew?

543
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Or it's like the Fable of or something. Oh my god,

544
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I saw the first twelve Despicable Me movies, so I

545
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm just in I'm just in it.

546
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: It's like when I watched uh, Endgame without having watched

547
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: any of them, Like, I don't know what the fuck

548
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: is going on here?

549
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: I love it. You can't stand Marvel movies and the

550
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: only one you've watched is End Game, which you have

551
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: to watch Marvel movies to even appreciate a little bit.

552
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: That's all black Panther. Okay, Oh my God. So when

553
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: they came up, I was like, oh, I get this.

554
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the Black Panther people. Here we go

555
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: finally who finally here they are.

556
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: But I agree with you, like I'm not going out

557
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: and rushing out to see kids animated films, Like that's

558
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 2: not my jam at all either. And some people are.

559
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Some adults love that shit and it's fine, but like,

560
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend my I don't. I don't

561
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: want to do that.

562
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I just don't.

563
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: I think that the things that make kids movie is

564
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: interesting for adults are when they throw in jokes for

565
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 2: parents and people who are going to movies with kids

566
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: to not get bored at that film. It's not like

567
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: made for you, but they'll throw in things so that

568
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: you don't get bored being there. And that's fine, but

569
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: overall it's gonna be a kids movie.

570
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I fucking I Unfortunately I know a

571
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: lot of people that will go and see those movies.

572
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: They don't have kids, which I eat, which I gotta say.

573
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I that makes me pause for a seconds too, where

574
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you don't have kids who're watching the

575
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: Rise of Crew. Having said that, there there's a couple Like,

576
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: first of all, I'll give you a high and low.

577
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: So I rewatched recently rewatched Heavy Metal.

578
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

579
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, animated film from the from the I guess

580
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: it was early eighties and it was it is like

581
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: I saw that when I was a teenager and thought

582
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: it was like way out there.

583
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: Man.

584
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, this is crazy, And then I

585
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: watched it again as a fucking grown up and was like,

586
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: this is a teenage boy, fucking fantasy. This is like

587
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: heavy metal, dudes, like the whole movie is based is

588
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: based on like giant women with giant breasts having sex

589
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: with nerds. I'm like, come on, like, come.

590
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: On, So you're saying animation just as a an art form,

591
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: it's just not for you.

592
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: No, because I will say in this in the same

593
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: bay like, so I was like heavy Metal, Ugh, why

594
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: did I even like this movie at any point? But

595
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: then I watched I don't know if you've ever seen

596
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: belladonnav Sadness, Oh yeah, I rewatched that movie fairly recently

597
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: in the past couple of years. Gorgeous, beautiful, gorgeous, like

598
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: it might be again a little there. There's some like

599
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: TNA moments, but but just different art style, different message,

600
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: different country for the most part. So it's like that

601
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: thing where I'm like, okay, well yeah, So take two

602
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: older animation films that were made for adults. Put them

603
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: up against each other. One not so much for me,

604
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: the other one great. So I'm like, I don't hate

605
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: at all Lockstock and Barrel.

606
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Right, it just has to be like it's the way

607
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: that films are for you, where it's like I have

608
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: to be interested in the subject a little bit to

609
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: even give a shit.

610
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's kind of what it is. And

611
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: I again, I catch a lot of hell from my

612
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: friends about this because they they love to fucking roast

613
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: me in that specific way, like, oh, well, Millie is

614
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, she's such a snob. She's like, oh, she

615
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: can't be caught dead watching a movie for a kid.

616
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: She's got no love in her heart or whatever.

617
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: Maybe, and it's not this entire I will push back.

618
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that your lack of interest in watching

619
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Pixar movies means that you don't have love in your

620
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: heart or that you are somehow a deficient person in

621
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: some way, Like they are just not for everyone. It's like,

622
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't ever. I've never been to a motocross event.

623
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: They're just not for everyone. Yeah, it's not like I'm

624
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: dead inside because I don't like them, Like they're just

625
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: not for me. And it's fine, And I think that,

626
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: you know there, I do think that there are some

627
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: animated films out there that you would like just simply

628
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: because of how weird or artistic they are. But you

629
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: don't have to, yeh, you don't have to. I remember

630
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: being a kid, but I remember when I was a teenager,

631
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: and remember when MTV used to do all the cartoons,

632
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: like they just hit a corner where they're suddenly like

633
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: we're doing plimptuns, We're doing.

634
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: All this shit and on Flux or whatever, yeah, like Liquid.

635
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: TV, Liquid TV, like those ninety percent of those fucking cartoons.

636
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: I was like, what is this shit? Why are you marketing?

637
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Why is why am I looking at this lady's fucking

638
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: a bug? Call on this lady's eyelash? What the fuck

639
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: is going on here? And they would always make them

640
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: kiss really weird and they look like Egon Sheile paintings

641
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: that come to life and they're all angular and like kissing,

642
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: and then she'd have a bug on her and I'm like,

643
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going? This is not for me.

644
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: I know you think it's for me because I'm a teenager.

645
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't get this. I don't like this. Yeah, and

646
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: so this it's not not everything is for everyone. But

647
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: on the flip side, I fucking love sci fi, so

648
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: like you would think I would love a on flux

649
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Speaker 2: and I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I you know, I like I there were

651
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I watched Little Mermaid Aladdin. Those were the two big

652
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: ones for me when I was growing up, like are

653
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: my my generation? Disney stuff still to this day, can

654
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: probably quote eighty percent of those films, right, So it's

655
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: not as if I went without, you know. And there

656
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: are moments like I love the old old Peanuts films,

657
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: like I watched the one I just I just logged

658
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: it on my letterbox to count, the one where they

659
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: go like overseas, like it's like a Ford exchange program.

660
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: It's called Bond Voyage Charlie Brown and Don't and Don't

661
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: Come Back. I think it's called and Don't come Back,

662
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: you know. And and those movies to me are so

663
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: peaceful and like they're almost kind of like meditative or whatever.

664
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Speaker 1: They're just the style of the animation is so simple,

665
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: and there's just like a lot the pacing of them

666
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: are so slow that it it almost makes you forget

667
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: that you're watching it like an animated film in a

668
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: weird way, because it's just so thoughtful. But then you know, like,

669
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm so I'm just now, I'm just now.

670
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm just being like, but I'm not a dick. I'm

671
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: not a dick. I will watch something.

672
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: You are not a dick, and you will watch some things,

673
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: and I don't think you need to justify it. And

674
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: I will also say this in your defense, and I'm

675
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna get catch hell for it, but I

676
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: feel this way, this is my opinion. Pixar movies are

677
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: emotionally manipulative. As a fuck, Wally is a fucking devastating film, Yeah,

678
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Like it is devastating, inside out devastating film. Like they

679
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: are emotionally manipulative movies. Yeah, and sometimes you're just not

680
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: in the fucking mood for that.

681
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no, And like that's what I've heard is

682
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: that those a lot of those picture movies are really

683
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Speaker 1: like soul destroying, Like the messages are so intense and

684
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: like you know, and then there's just like I get

685
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: this also confused too, Like there are some some things

686
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: because I don't know if Minion's is a Pixar, I

687
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: can't remember. It's hard to remember what's Disney, what's what's Pixar,

688
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: what's not, And so some of those movies are so

689
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: chaotic too, like what is the one that every one loves? No,

690
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I can't remember. But but there's there's some of that,

691
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: especially now, because I feel like animation style too is

692
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: very you know, kind of chaotic, and there's a lot

693
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: of stuff in the frame, a lot of stuff going on,

694
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: a lot of voices. So when you do watch something

695
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: that's older, you're like Jesus, it's like watching a seventies documentary.

696
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: It's like very slow.

697
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, I'm cool with Steamboat Willie, but

698
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: the rest of that shit, I don't know.

699
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. That is the like if I

700
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: had actually said that, I would want you to fight

701
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: club me, like beat me up in an alley. Like

702
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: I just love Steamboat Willie, but everything else is just

703
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: too modern for me. Fucking pummel me, pummel me. That's sonoxious.

704
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: Like Harold Lloyd is great, but like nope and those dens.

705
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like it is you do not

706
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: have to justify the fact that you don't you're not

707
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: a big fan of a lot of animated movies. I

708
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: think that you watch some, you find you've you have

709
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: found what you like, and that is fine. I don't

710
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: dig into every single animated film. I just do the

711
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: same thing. I find the ones that I like, and

712
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I really like them, especially if it's a studio that

713
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: makes routinely makes interesting films. Yeah, you know, like like

714
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Spirited Away, and just like like again, like I will

715
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: always watch a studio ghibli film because I know it's

716
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: going to be bonkers and I know I'm not going

717
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: to understand ninety percent of what's happening, Like Hal's Moving Castle,

718
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, such a great, great movie, so weird,

719
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: so weird, and so yeah, I think that, like I'm

720
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: willing to give animated films a try if they're not

721
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: made in America. Oh my god, what am I even saying?

722
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Speaker 1: I canceled?

723
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Speaker 2: You canceled, I canceled. She hates of Erica, folks.

724
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Speaker 1: No, but I am.

725
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to give animation a try if it tells

726
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: a different kind of story, and I think that's all

727
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: I really need is it tells a different kind of story,

728
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: and that medium is crucial to telling that story. That's

729
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: what's important to me. Yeah.

730
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it sounds like Jenny and her family are too.

731
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously, if that's like the first

732
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: thing she mentions about loving in her house, then yeah,

733
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: it seems like maybe she's into cool animation as well.

734
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: And I salute that. I'm a fan of that.

735
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: Of that, I just.

736
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Speaker 1: Don't want to line up with a bunch of twelve

737
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: year olds on the opening night of a Disney film.

738
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The Fables of Grew.

739
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I got a grew attitude or whatever, like they always

740
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: come up with some fucking.

741
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Title like and can we talk? Can we talk about

742
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: the Minions for a moment, since we're kind of already

743
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: talking about.

744
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: The Minions, let's do it.

745
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: What fucking brain were these things born in? And they are?

746
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: The marketing for the Minions is too hardcore. Yes, I

747
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: was watching my grandma's favorite show, American Ninja Warrior, and

748
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: they have a Minion style event that's normally just like, oh,

749
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: walk on these logs and see if you can make it,

750
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Except now they're minions. I'm like, why is marketing for

751
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: minions going this hard for things that don't actually communicate.

752
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I think they just speak gibberish to each other.

753
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Like esperanza or something.

754
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: Weird.

755
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Shit, I don't know what it is, these lass speaking

756
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: little fucking yellow pills.

757
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: It's really like I was like, I'm pretty sure that's

758
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: French and Spanish that I've heard.

759
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: So remember when we were growing up in the scandal,

760
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: was like, ooh, somebody spelled out sex and the clouds

761
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: and the lion king. The minions could be cursing you

762
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: out in seventeen languages. I don't know.

763
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I am sure as the rain coming down

764
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: on my house right now that somebody has done sexy

765
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: minion coseplay, there is like some kind of illustration that

766
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: somebody has drawn about a minion with giant breasts.

767
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm out for the count and a song. Oh okay,

768
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: I'm done because I think you're right. I guarantee it exists,

769
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: and I'm all I'm done with humanity now because I

770
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: guarantee that's been a fucking Halloween costume sexy Minion, which,

771
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: first of all, think of the language of this. I'm

772
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: a minion, like, I'm just I do bidding. That's what

773
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: I do. I have no thoughts of my own. I

774
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: do bidding. And we made these minions so so slavish

775
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: that they don't even speak a communicable language, like just

776
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: the concept of the minions needs to be reevaluated. And

777
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: they got one big eye, which, yeah, it's cute. I

778
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: guess the little Homer Simpson hair and one big eye.

779
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: And they look like medicine. They're hopping around their medicine

780
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: and overalls and.

781
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: They're obsessed with bananas. I found out, Oh yeah, that's

782
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: like a okay. I had to figure I had to

783
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: while I was watching the Minions, I uh, the new minis.

784
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I was looking at shit on Wikipedia and I

785
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: was figuring out, like, what what are the minion facts?

786
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: Who are they? Where are they come from? Obsessed with bananas?

787
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: You know what I don't like about that? You can't

788
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: have a sexy minion costume for a character that's obsessed

789
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: with bananas and not have it go somewhere truly perverted.

790
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I like, you are always one Google incognito

791
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: mode search away from something horrifying at all times involving

792
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: children's comic books or cartoon characters.

793
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I just want to shake loose this

794
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: mortal coil. I just can't. I can't with a minion.

795
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: I can't with There are a lot of kids movies

796
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: and kids things that I'm like, all right, that's cute

797
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: for kids. Minions. I think, what the fuck are we

798
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: doing here?

799
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: A bridge A bridge too far, up bridge too far,

800
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: A bridge too far.

801
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: And I've never seen them. I've only seen the commercials

802
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: and the intense marketing. Minions are showing up in like

803
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: liberty insurance commercials.

804
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm telling you.

805
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: They are every fucking where.

806
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. In the new movie, they have this giant they

807
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: do like rolling Stone songs and their little esperanza b language.

808
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is this?

809
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Like they get the clearance for a fucking rolling Stone song.

810
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: We're living in an alternate reality, suffered from most of

811
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the world that understands and condones it. We're just like, what,

812
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: we don't understand minions at all? How is this? They

813
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: had like twelve movies. There's like twenty seven movies.

814
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken. They were like the secondary character

815
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: to another movie, and then they became their own things,

816
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: so like they were the minions of the Despicable Me guy.

817
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I did literally again did not say the first

818
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: eighty four Minions films, So I don't know, and now it.

819
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Was taken over because and this is this is the

820
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: other thing. A lot of animated films do this. Everyone.

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00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Animated films make it so easy to kick an idea

822
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: into the earth, like just pound it, pound all of

823
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: the fun and interest out of it. Like there are

824
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: seven hundred Minion Minions films, yes, to the point where

825
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: we don't have to care about them anymore.

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00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, having at any of this, I did enjoy the

827
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Minions five. I really do think it's five.

828
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Grew you boo.

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00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Fuck well.

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