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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, can't do any TikTok dancers.

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Speaker 1: It's welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan ANSAs. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, arms

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Speaker 1: criss crossed, looks like he's ready for a confrontation, and

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Speaker 1: the great Patrick claibn pitching for Mark Sessler under the

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Speaker 1: Weather the ten Days Summer, I l I call it.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody done? Yeah, we we send our our thoughts

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Speaker 1: out to Mark is not He'll be back, you know,

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Speaker 1: next next week. At some point we are back on

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Speaker 1: the network next week. That's kind of like our hard deadline.

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Speaker 1: This These are some in between weeks where we're we're

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Speaker 1: intoing our way back into the flow, but not not

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Speaker 1: quite a full schedule. Next week, I feel like is

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Speaker 1: when we strap ourselves into the chair. For about seven months.

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Speaker 1: Claib has been there though claybron is in a suit

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Speaker 1: and tie right now, that's gonna be on NFL network.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't really left the chair. Yeah, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: same chair. I mean I occasionally go sit in a

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Speaker 1: I know it's uh, you know, there's I just I

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Speaker 1: do hope Mark's doing all right. Yeah, yeah, we'll we'll

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Speaker 1: get marked back with us hopefully next time we all

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Speaker 1: get together. And um, yes, you know we have taken

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Speaker 1: a little bit more time off this summer, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's for a good reason and we feel good about it.

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Speaker 1: And we appreciate you, the listeners, not giving us too

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Speaker 1: much shite about it, uh, because I know sometimes that

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Speaker 1: not working as hard. We're still working as hard, but

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Speaker 1: we're just getting a little bit of a blow and

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Speaker 1: what's been a tumultuous last eighteen months. Um. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, I've been looking for someone, uh and I

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Speaker 1: really wish Mark was here for this, but I was

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Speaker 1: looking for someone that could perfectly encapsulate um, how we're

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Speaker 1: feeling this time of year as we look ahead to

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Speaker 1: another season of the NFL football. And we found it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Uh in my spirit animal Alec Baldwin take

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Speaker 1: it away out. I try to take the summer off

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Speaker 1: be or um available. Um. During that time, I don't

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time, um, you know, dogging every

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Speaker 1: news story. I only do the deep dive on something

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I love I love me some

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Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin. He's he is the most ridiculous person on

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Speaker 1: earth right now in my opinion. UM, And I like

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Speaker 1: to spend the summer with my family. That's those are

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Speaker 1: my thoughts. Yeah, shout out to Alec Baldwin for having

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Speaker 1: time with. I do think right, It's it's applicable to

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Speaker 1: it applies to an actor like recognizing things that are

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Speaker 1: happening on the planet. But yeah, you know the best

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Speaker 1: part of that that dispatch was after he does that

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Speaker 1: long run up explaining why he's staying off social media.

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Speaker 1: While he's on social media, he then um says, but

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Speaker 1: Cobalt Cobalt that's out there right now. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin, everyone that's watching Alec Baldwin has the same

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Speaker 1: taste in New York Times think pieces and reporting as

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Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin. It's a perfect cycle of Baldwin and I'm

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Speaker 1: here for it. I just want to say, it has

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Speaker 1: twelve months, We're not going back to the old schedule.

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Speaker 1: We're not suddenly gonna keep cranking through this this this summer,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going. But this this this year especially,

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the good news. If you are getting

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Speaker 1: for you today. Obviously, next week we're back to two

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Speaker 1: and there is no uh. There are no reverse gears

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Speaker 1: Football Mini Pod, So we have you covered. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for standing with us. Big show coming up today, the

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Speaker 1: Superstar Club, Clay Von, you come in to pinch hit

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Speaker 1: and you just walk into um It's Superstar Club episode

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Speaker 1: of the Round the NFL Podcast Pinch yourself, buddy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to bring a fair amount of

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Speaker 1: those things, because it's it's an institution, dan um it is.

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Speaker 1: It is something that that should be criticized, that should

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Speaker 1: be held high as one of the pre eminent offseason pieces, uh,

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Speaker 1: And I look forward to asking you guys how you

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Speaker 1: feel about my decisions this year. And yes, I do

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Speaker 1: want that constructive criticism. It might even lead to a

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Speaker 1: the news. It's the teenager tokay Osaka, one of the

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Speaker 1: penalties in England foiled again. Oh trats. Italy defeated England

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Speaker 1: Bad news for the Kansas City Chiefs. Los Angeles prosecutors

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Speaker 1: It's it's a heavy charge facing Clark, and it really

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Speaker 1: does put um a lot of question marks around him.

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Speaker 1: And he's a key figure greg for this team. He is.

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Speaker 1: He's do eighteen um point five million dollars this season.

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Speaker 1: He could be played paid, you know, placed on a

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Speaker 1: nobody knew, what a surprise it's Al Baker in the

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Speaker 1: biggest of all spots. Al first of all, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast, and congratulations on being the

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Speaker 1: official sack champion for all time in the NFL. At

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Speaker 1: least according to the people that know what the hell

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Speaker 1: they're talking about. Al Baker Baby, Hey, hey man, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys, thank you for having me on. Man you

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Speaker 1: must have been where were you when you found this

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Speaker 1: news out? And like, what was your what was your reaction?

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Speaker 1: Are you finding this news out now? I don't know,

437
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: and being the unofficial sack King, Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: I meditate on my patio under the condo on the

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Speaker 1: tenth floor, and I was sitting out there and I

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Speaker 1: never checked my emails or my chext until ten. For

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Speaker 1: some reason, today I saw three one oh number and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a guy. I'm doing a script.

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Speaker 1: I'm writing a script floor um, a legal drama series

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Speaker 1: that you know during COVID, one of those things we

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Speaker 1: all during COVID. I was creating a script and so

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Speaker 1: I thought this was the guy that I've been working

447
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Speaker 1: with because he's in Los Angeles. I opened it up

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Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, all right, and then, for some reason,

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00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding you, without any prompting tears, you

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Speaker 1: started running down my eyes and my wife was inside.

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Speaker 1: I opened up a patio dos and my wife first

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Speaker 1: thing she said was, what's wrong? When I said, nothing's wrong,

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Speaker 1: and I said, come look at this, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we hugged and then I lost about an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half, two hours. It just you know, my daughter

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Speaker 1: h called, UM. It was really emotional for my family.

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Speaker 1: You know. I guess at six ft eight, you know pounds,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't sound really tough. But we're all crying like

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Speaker 1: a little girls. You know. Somebody tells you you're the

460
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Speaker 1: sad leader, and and what do you do? You start

461
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Speaker 1: crying and and and I guess it's because none of

462
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Speaker 1: us are really sad around like some players, and we

463
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Speaker 1: want this and we want that. We hadn't thought about

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Speaker 1: it for at least, you know, for at least. I'm

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Speaker 1: not kidding your twenty years. You know, I spent twenty

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Speaker 1: If nobody says anything after team years, getting the elected

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, um, you know, an honorable mentions

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Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame, you just you just assume,

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Speaker 1: and you said to yourself, move on, you know, And

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Speaker 1: that's what I did. I just went on with my life.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only conversation that I would have was

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Speaker 1: when people would come up to me and they would

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Speaker 1: say they talked about Michael Strahand's twenty second and a

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Speaker 1: half sacked. That was a problem for me the way

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Speaker 1: that went out. One that was because Michael had a

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Speaker 1: great year, you know, and and just to see that

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Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with my three It just

478
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Speaker 1: had to do it. Well, why does he need to

479
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Speaker 1: do that? You know? Now? Now it's tame it in

480
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Speaker 1: my opinion, And and that bothered me. Did you you

481
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Speaker 1: know you did it as a key NFL defensive rookie

482
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Speaker 1: of the Year. How disappointing was it that the sacks

483
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: were not even tabulated until four years into your career,

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Speaker 1: because in addition to it, it uh costing you some

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Speaker 1: level of notoriety and maybe even the Hall of Fame. Financially,

486
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it had an impact as well, because guys

487
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: that sack quarterbacks get paid in the league and it

488
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Speaker 1: wasn't recognized the way it is now. So you kind

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Speaker 1: of missed the boat there. So in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear it. First of all, how

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Speaker 1: happy you are about it, But also do you look

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Speaker 1: back with some regret about the way this all played out?

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Speaker 1: But the status, the timing of it all. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I believe in being honest, and I think at that

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00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: point at twenty think about it, twenty years old and

496
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all this is going on. I

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00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: am so relieved that I didn't get the kind of

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Speaker 1: money that these guys got them because I was an

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Speaker 1: idiot like all other twenty year old. You know, every

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00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: time you think about a young man at the age

501
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: of twenty or twenty one in the NFL getting in trouble,

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Speaker 1: that's a baby, her baby. And if you remember the

503
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: song you guys are too young, there was a song

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Speaker 1: by David Bowie called Fame. I am just blessed to

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Speaker 1: be able to say to you guys, I survived being famous.

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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing that I'm most proud of. I've

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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: been there, I've done that. I've seen what it does

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Speaker 1: to some people. And it's just for an example, I

509
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: saw a player maybe about five years ago. His roster

510
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: bonus was more than I made in my entire thirteen

511
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Speaker 1: years and deepens running. And I don't want to mention

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Speaker 1: his name because at the time he was at the

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Speaker 1: peak and he deserved the new country. But he's been

514
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: heard everything. If that were me when I was twenty,

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00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: I might have brought myself a rocket ship who knows.

516
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: I was just that goofy. You know, your baby, you

517
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: just got out of college. You don't know how to

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00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: how do you figure out who your friends are? How

519
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: do you figure out, you know, when your family is

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Speaker 1: calling you and asking for money. I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: the real things that happened, because people figure, um, then

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Speaker 1: you're rich. And I gotta tell you, guys, my rookie

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00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: contract was twenty five thousand and twenty five thousand dollar bonus.

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Speaker 1: It was five thirty two and two dollars. And that

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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: was a problem because I signed it and the Lions

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Speaker 1: were not going to extend it or change it. You know.

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Speaker 1: Anything I could do was make them trade. And that happened. No, no,

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Speaker 1: no matter how much of the of the defensive league,

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Speaker 1: that was the way the game was that good. And

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Speaker 1: your final season in Detroit was two the first year

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Speaker 1: the league kept SAX as an official stat And I

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Speaker 1: just want everyone to know that you were a part

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Speaker 1: of obviously the silver rush defense in Detroit, and you

534
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: were the best pass rusher in the in the league

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Speaker 1: at that time. And you're three seasons. First three seasons

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Speaker 1: you had twenty three, sixteen and seventeen and a half

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: sacks you led the league in seventy eight and eighty,

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Speaker 1: even if it was unofficial. Um, just an unbelievable rear

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to have you on the show

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Speaker 1: and congratulate you on this and and and just hope

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Speaker 1: that maybe the NFL recognizes this because pro football references

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Speaker 1: widely respected UH entity in the league, and you get

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Speaker 1: what you deserve and maybe even get a jacket out

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Speaker 1: of it when it's all said and done. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm all be glad, and I'm glad to be here

546
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: and be real with you guys. I'm real comfortable with

547
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: where I am right now and like to get that

548
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: song by David Bowie. Not everybody to handle thing absolutely

549
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and you're you're in a McDonald's right now. Thank you

550
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: for going the extra mile you stopped on the way.

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00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I consider myself someone who like pays attention

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Speaker 1: to football history and stuff. So I'm really excited about

553
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: this because I didn't know about your career that much.

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00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: In fifty six and a half sacks in your first

555
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Speaker 1: three years is absolutely insane Like that I would I'd

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Speaker 1: love to go back and look to see that compared

557
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: to anyone else My guests would be you came in

558
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: with a bigger sack force than anyone in the history

559
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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Eventually J. J. Watt like came in

560
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: pretty strong, but he didn't do fifty six sacks in

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Speaker 1: his first three years strong. So I'm I'm glad that

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00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: the people know and you kept it going. A hundred

563
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: and thirty one career sacks. It's it's an amazing achievement.

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00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad to learn about you today. Yeah, I was

565
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: just gonna congratulate Al because I know you talked about

566
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: the discrepancy in pay between now and then. What the

567
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: owners and players and us right are making is is

568
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: because of the work that you guys put in, uh

569
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: and making the league what it is today. Um. And

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00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm glad that people and like Greg said,

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00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I've had a chance to to learn more about your

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00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: career through this decision, uh from from Pro Football Reference

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: and and just appreciating right uh that you you you

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: sacked the quarterback while they had the ball, right you

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00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: You tackled and that was the thing that added value

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00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: and there was nothing keeping us as a league from

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00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: recognizing those stats that happened before. Uh. So I'm glad

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00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: that we're doing it today and I'm just glad that

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Speaker 1: you're here. Um, and thanks, thanks for all the work

580
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: you put in. I'm so flattered bout you guys. Thank

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: you for having me on. I'm sorry about the delay

582
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, in any complications, but hey, guys,

583
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: that's a part of like and yeah, that's what you

584
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: prose us prose, that's what we do. We've worked through

585
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: it and that's the essence of my career. Every year.

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00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: The thirteen years was a different year. Beautiful, all right, Bubba, Well,

587
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us, and uh and

588
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: best of luck to you going forward with everything, whether

589
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: it's your screenplay project or Bubba's Boneless ribs, uh your

590
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: business over there which you can check out Bubba's Boneless

591
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Ribs dot com. Thank you, my man, and congratulations twenty

592
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: three baby. Thanks Al, Thanks there, he goes Al Baker.

593
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: How about that? How about effort? About that? How about effort?

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00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: How about that for a little surprise on today's Around

595
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Thanks for that surprise. Damn. Yeah that

596
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: was amazing. Now I want to say this too, like

597
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I've so I have fun about that in the stray

598
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: hand record and all that stuff, but uh and having

599
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: having Alan was just gonna be something kind of fun

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00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: playing off that. But then when he started talking about

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Speaker 1: how much it meant to him, how he got choked

602
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: up by it, it a makes a lot of sense,

603
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: and uh, b was just really cool to have him

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00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: uh share that with us. And I hope, um, I

605
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: hope other people learn a bit more about Bubba Baker

606
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: because he had a really big career hundred and thirty

607
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: one sacks. It's a lot more than some some pass

608
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: rushers that are in Canton. But just yeah, those looking

609
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: at those the first three years, imagine I don't know,

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00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: just imagine the profile of a guy who, uh, if

611
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: he came into the league right now, went broke the

612
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: record his rookie year one Rookie of the Year and

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Speaker 1: then follow that up with sixteen sacks and then lead

614
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: the league with seventeen and a half the year after that,

615
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: imagine that guy's profile heading into year four. He'd be

616
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Speaker 1: the biggest not you know, superstar in the entire league

617
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't play quarterbacks. It's pretty amazing. And all of

618
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: these games were recorded. We have video evidence of everything

619
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: that took place. Uh, there's nothing keeping us from doing that,

620
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: from recognizing the guys who were integral uh in making

621
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: the league what it is today, and and him telling

622
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: the story of crying with his family, it hit me too,

623
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: dan Um, you know who else are we? Who else

624
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: is going underappreciated for their contributions just because we we

625
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: we haven't adjusted some numbers around And I want to

626
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: let them know. I want to let them know I'm

627
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: a profile all Reference. I'm sure hopefully they hear this

628
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: reaction too, because they did Yeoman's work, doing all the

629
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: work to to find these numbers. Absolutely, and I I

630
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: hope that it doesn't stop here. I hope that what

631
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: prop Football Reference getting the ball rolling on this the NFL,

632
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's some teamwork here and they can

633
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: really fill in the gaps on these they can make

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00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: it official. All right, let's wrap up the news. It's

635
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to top that, but let's wrap up

636
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the news with Ben Roethlisberger, who is entering what almost

637
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: certainly is his final season, but who knows. In the NFL,

638
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: he's thirty nine years old. He really did not play

639
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: very well down the stretch for the Steelers, and a

640
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: disappointing season for Pittsburgh after that eleven and no start. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of questions about Roethlisberger. There's a

642
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: lot of questions about his offensive line. Uh. Here is

643
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: the latest on the quarterback and this from Ryan Burr

644
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Ben Camp says biggest concern is weight loss.

645
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: He has been so driven since the season ended. Source

646
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: says has died. Is stricter than Brady. How about that?

647
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's camp also said he's quote yep, here it comes

648
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life. And that Roethlisberger, this,

649
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I do believe. Here's everything everything this is. This is

650
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: like the second time this happened this off season, by

651
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: the way, where like a local Pittsburgh Steelers guy was

652
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: like being like, hey, you know, this is just my

653
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: source talk and Ben Ben would never put this out

654
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: there himself, but he's noticing everything you're saying this summer

655
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: and just this source says, and you know Ben Ben

656
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: would never, you know, want to put this out here himself,

657
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: but this source says that he's taking his diet more

658
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: seriously than Brady, Like how has been measuring that? Like

659
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: is he does? He have a TV twelve book and

660
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: he's like going one step beyond what the Brady method, Like,

661
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: how does he know he's going one step beyond Brady?

662
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean when when people like throw out something like

663
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: that's that big of an exaggeration, then you just start

664
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: you start wondering what's true, what's true, what's too big?

665
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: It could be possible, right if you read the TV

666
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: twelve Diet. There's a copy in our locker room. There's

667
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: some contradictions in there that it's like, wait, you can't

668
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: do both of these things at the same time. So

669
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: you could, I guess conceivably if you're going by the book, Uh,

670
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: take your diet more seriously than Tom Brady. Uh. The

671
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: question is why why is there a need to say that, Yeah,

672
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: you haven't been taking your diet seriously and that's the

673
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: reason to blame for this. Or did you have you know,

674
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: reconstructive elbow surgery uh at at an advanced age. Um,

675
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I do wonder what's the purpose of these things? And

676
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: he did. He looked big, even by big bend standards

677
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: by the end of last season. And I know this,

678
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: and there's millions and millions of Americans. I know this.

679
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: The struggle is real with having your weight under control.

680
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: For a lot of people. And I think this is

681
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: something that's gonna be tough for him, especially as he

682
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: gets closer to forty, unless he completely changes his lifestyle. Um,

683
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: but to use assesslersm he is a stone age pony

684
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: right now in the pocket and sitting Dept. Duck and

685
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: and and we're gonna bring up Big Ben a little

686
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: bit later in our next segment, but he has to

687
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: move better in the pocket if he's gonna survive the season,

688
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: especially with that line. I like it just because in

689
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: doing a little research, and by research, I mean just

690
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: like checking Ryan Burr. This guy's his other tweets. He

691
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: knows Ben Roethlisberger, like going back to high school, like

692
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: he covered him in high school. And and so I

693
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: just do like the idea that Ben has his closer

694
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: friends in the media and he is getting the word

695
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: out that one is Ben with a vengeance tour and

696
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: that's like, that's fun. That's like a whether it had,

697
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: whether it happens or not. I like it as a

698
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: plot line because he is setting up this plot line

699
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: as uh as someone who's you know, occasionally been a

700
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: bit of a heel in terms of an underdog. We

701
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: can all get behind right. I mean no, but I

702
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: think sports needs uh, sports needs villains. I do. I

703
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: do like him as a player. I do want to,

704
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, before we move very quickly to give a

705
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: rest in peace to Alex Gibbs, the former Broncos offensive

706
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: line coach, just because he, you know, starting those zone

707
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: running schemes with the Broncos back in the eighties truly

708
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: influenced the future of the NFL in a schematic way.

709
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, more than a lot of like head coaches,

710
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: like more than them that are in the Hall of

711
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Fames or something. You can see the impact of what

712
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: Alex Gibs did, not that he was the first person

713
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: ever to do zone blocking, but the way he did

714
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: it in such such a way that turned the Broncos

715
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: into a juggernaut. You see it, You still see it.

716
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: You see it all around the league, and it's because

717
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, any innovation, right that opens up opportunity

718
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: for players who don't traditionally get it. Um. You know,

719
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: the way that we evaluate lineman and look at that,

720
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: you can definitely see a shift and a change, and

721
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't detract from the way that the other ways

722
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: that people have had blocking schemes but it only adds

723
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: and so anytime somebody contributes that to a game, especially

724
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: this game, shout out to them. Rest in peace. Rest

725
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: in peace. And by the way, finally give it a

726
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: rest to the Hillsboro River down there in Tampa, I

727
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: mean the Super Bowl Trophy, the Lombardi Trophy gets tossed

728
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: um by Tom Brady and almost kills somebody. Now the

729
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup because the Lightning won the Stanley Cup finals.

730
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Good for them, They're back to back champs over there

731
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: in the NHL. They take their their big trophy out

732
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: on that river and they dent the damn thing by

733
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: throwing her around and rough housing with the most coveted

734
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: trophy in in the sport. I just want everybody just

735
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be the fun police here,

736
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: but let's just take it easy and with the rough housing.

737
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Let's calm down, boys. Do I remember when the Stanley

738
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Speaker 1: Cup came to Wilbraham, Massachusetts, my hometown Billy Garret in

739
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: the New York New Jersey Devils, And it was like

740
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that ever happened to the town of Wilbraham,

741
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: that the Stanley Cup. It is the best trophy this

742
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: is a Damascheck always said this, and I agree with them,

743
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: even though I'm not a quarter or a tenth of

744
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: the hockey fan that Damashi is one of the hockey

745
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: fan of it is I think the best trophy right, well,

746
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I like the Lombardi trophy, um, but it does not

747
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: hold a candle to Lord Stanley's Cup with you Patrick,

748
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: the Patrick's got a take. No, I don't have a take.

749
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Take it down, take it down to take down the

750
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup, the water Crystal college football, miss the Crystal football?

751
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Why they get rid of that? That was kind of

752
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: speaking of unique branding, right. They wanted to brand this,

753
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: this new thing that they were doing and sell it

754
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: more effectively, so they changed the trophy. Speaking of that,

755
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I and speaking of my Irish heritage, when I was

756
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: sixteen back in ninety six, we went on a family

757
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: pilgrimage to the Motherland and it involved a lot of

758
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: driving around on a bus and visiting castles Um and

759
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: driving through green, rolling hills under an overcast sky. That

760
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: was my Ireland journey as a teenager. But we stopped

761
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: at the factory where they made that trophy, and the

762
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: woman who gave us the tour said this is the

763
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl Trophy. And I was like, it's not the

764
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: super Bowl Trophy, your mistaken, lady, And she said, no,

765
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: you're mistaken. It's the super Bowl Trophy. And I said,

766
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm sixteen, but I'm right and you're wrong. I didn't

767
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: say that, but remember thinking myself, I didn't even know

768
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: that that was the college Trophy at that point. And

769
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: then maybe like a year or two later, I saw

770
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: it at the end of the game. It's like, Oh,

771
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: she just doesn't know anything. It was. It was an

772
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: early introduction to like that facts can be debatable. You

773
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: know that you can talk to someone who just won't

774
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: recognize a fact even if even if it's true. I

775
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: try to tell her, all right, that's what's happening in

776
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: the news, all right, without further ado. Yes, the Superstar

777
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Club it's back. You could read all about it later

778
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: this week on NFL dot com slash handsas um. It

779
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: is my club that features only the best and brightest,

780
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: and because it's just more fun, I focus on quarterbacks

781
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: and skill players on offense. There are places on the

782
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: internet where you can go and dive deep and find

783
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: out who the Superstar Trench Monsters are, Who's in the

784
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: secondary linebackers, and I respect all that, but I just

785
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: to keep things focused and have some fun. I stayed

786
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball with skill players

787
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: and uh, I have twenty seven names this year. Boys

788
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: that span QB, running back, wide receiver, tight end. And

789
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: the most important element of this the Superstar Club. Is

790
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: this a zero sum game? What does that mean? Patrick

791
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: t You're either in or you're out? Not quite great?

792
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: Does it mean I mean one goes in, one comes out?

793
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: That number I guess is you know if someone if

794
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: someone's coming in, someone's gotta get booted right. And then

795
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: that's and that's really tough. And I struggle with it

796
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: more than you would think. Like I was up at

797
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: one thirty working on this piece yesterday in fact, and

798
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like struggling with a certain wide receiver. I

799
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: reached out to Gregor earlier in the day to get

800
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: his thoughts on it, and I was thinking to myself,

801
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: why do I Why am I so invested in this? Well,

802
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: because it's a Superstar Club and I'm the bouncer and

803
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: I take it seriously. So with that said, and speaking

804
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: of trophies flying through the Hillsboro River, I bet you

805
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't know it was the Hillsboro river Boys, did you No,

806
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: I actually did. I thought they were in the Bay.

807
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. And something's weird about Tampa being

808
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: like the city of Champions, But that's where we are.

809
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Um, I start with the miya kulpa,

810
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've been doing this for years.

811
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, welcome back, the first guy to ever leave

812
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club and return and return. I kicked out

813
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in this exercise following his ten season, and

814
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 1: at that time I reasoned that while he was still

815
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: an impact player, uh, it just won the Super Bowl.

816
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: A closer study, Yes, he had just won the Super Bowl,

817
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: but a closer study of his game, and Greg, you

818
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: always hang your hat on that playoff run, which was fine,

819
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: but they did win like three to two in the

820
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so let's calm down about They did put

821
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: up of forty burger on the Chargers and then he

822
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: outgunned Mahomes in overtime. Like mid thirties, right, still a

823
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: big time quarterback, but um, his entire um look at

824
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: his season made me think, Okay, this might be time

825
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: to get out. He was forty one as a superstar,

826
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: not as a top quarterback or even a star. And

827
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: then the next season came around around and I felt

828
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: great about it because that was his last season in

829
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: New England and his numbers, by his standards, flatlined a

830
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: little bit. They were one and done in the playoffs,

831
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, I've gotten so many

832
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: things wrong with Tom Brady. This I got right. Um, However,

833
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: what has happened here is he goes to Tampa. Of course,

834
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl, plays an exceedingly high level, throws

835
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: fifty touchdown over the course of the regular season and playoffs,

836
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and he is undeniably a pro football superstar at forty

837
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: three years old. The mind boggles. Now, um, zero some game.

838
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: So Tom's back in out, easy one to start. Drew

839
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Brees retired. I love those. Those are gimmes. And the

840
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: truth of the the matter is I got it wrong last

841
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: year because I should have taken Drew Brees out ahead

842
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: of his last season. I didn't do it, and that

843
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Mm hmm. I like the analysis. I think, um,

844
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: it's important to have a critical window into into what

845
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: happened in the past. And perhaps Dan, you were projecting

846
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: a slight regression, which if we go back to the

847
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: discussion at the time, that's what happened, and perhaps you

848
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: could make the argument that it did happen, and then

849
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: there was a shift in the other direction. You made

850
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: the same mistake that Sean Payton. Did you know, Sean

851
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Payton should have kicked Drew Brees to the curve last

852
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: year and welcomed in Tom Brady. That's that's that's that's

853
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: why Tom's throwing m F bombs. Uh. I think it

854
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: was the Saints. I still think it was the Saints.

855
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Stuff real quick, a little housekeeping, um the my additions

856
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: and substractions. Last year, I put Lamar Jackson in office

857
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: MVP season. I took out Cam Newton. No regrets there

858
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: on either front. I put in Dak Prescott. I took

859
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: out Andrew luck who retired. Of course, running back. I

860
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: put in Dalvid Cook, took out Leve Bell. That one.

861
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: Put in Derrick Henry, took out Todd Gurley. That was

862
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: easy wide receiver. I put in t Tryreek Hill. I

863
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: took out Antonio Brown. Feel good about that. I put

864
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: in Amari Cooper, took out Juju Smith Schuster, which was

865
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: a bad job, and me putting him in the first place,

866
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: But you gotta take else sometimes in this game. That

867
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: was last year. Now next quarterback Josh Allen Buffalo Bills

868
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: in what else needs to be said? Um, but I

869
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: love this stat from PFF. He was six in the

870
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: NFL last season with a seventy nine point one percent

871
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: adjusted completion rate, and that's a massive jump from him. Uh,

872
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: he was in the bottom He was in the thirties

873
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: amongst quarterbacks in nineteen. So in one offseason he essentially

874
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: went from this hyper athletic hass with a scatter shot

875
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: shot arm to a complete package. It's one of the

876
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: great year to year leaps in recent years. So it's

877
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: an easy move to put him in the superstar club,

878
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: but one that I would not have predicted this time

879
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: last year. No, and I think him him being able

880
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: to back that up is one of the big stories

881
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: of the year because there's every reason to believe that

882
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: they can and should because almost more than any team

883
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: other than the Bucks, they're all they're all back, they're

884
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: all back in the coordinator's back, and Alan should feel

885
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: good about keeping that level up. But you do think

886
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: about regression and anyone that's improved that much in one year,

887
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: whether they can hold it. I have no doubt though

888
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: that he should be in the Superstar Club. Yeah, it's

889
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: in terms of holding it up, that's a question for everybody.

890
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: That's why people leave the Superstar Club in the first place.

891
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: But but to say, uh, I don't think it's gonna

892
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: be repeatable. Maybe not ever in NFL history a guy

893
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: is gonna go from completing or right or in the

894
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: high fifties of passes to to the low seventies. Right.

895
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: It's just it's not it's not gonna happen a lot.

896
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: But we are going to see people perhaps take shots

897
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks, uh, you know that have the arm, that

898
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: have the ability and the mobility UM, and maybe completion

899
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: percentage as perhaps it should, uh should should kind of

900
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: fall down on the rankings of how we evaluate guys.

901
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: And to what you were saying, Greg, one thing to

902
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: keep an eye on, um. There is a stat over

903
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: on PFF turnover worthy plays not they not they don't

904
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: necessarily turn into interceptions, UM, but plays that could have

905
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: gone either way in the quarterback Uh, it went the

906
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks way. Alan had a somewhat high number in that department.

907
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: So if some of those plays go the other way.

908
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not quite as excellent as he was a

909
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: year ago, but we'll see. We just talked about him

910
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Um, there's just there's just too much here

911
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: telling me this could be UM a late period Dan

912
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: Marino situation where he's just gonna not be able to move,

913
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be able to throw down field, and

914
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing is going to collapse. I think there's

915
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: an alternate um storyline here where I think the Steelers

916
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: are fine on offense, but I think the days of

917
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: him being a superstar, uh if he ever was, and

918
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: that opinions very there, but I I started, I I

919
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: obviously think he was. I think those days of him

920
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: being an elite, top performer are over. M hmm. I

921
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: mean he definitely was. He was a top five quarterback

922
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of his his career, and to me,

923
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't doesn't need those like super bowls to be a

924
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: no doubt or Hall of Famer, just for how he's

925
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: been year to year. And I wouldn't be surprised at

926
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: all with these weapons around him if they have a

927
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive season. It's like a nice receiving corps.

928
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: Ben just getting rid of the ball quickly. He's definitely

929
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: sharper than he used to be. If he's in a

930
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: little better shape, Like I could totally see him having

931
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: a very capable, like not top five, but solid season.

932
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: It's it's tough to project it for me to see

933
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: a comeback. Right when you look at you know, the

934
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: surgery at the advanced stage, it's like we look at

935
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: a Cam Newton, right. He he tried to do all

936
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: of those things. He tried to change his diet, he

937
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: became vegan. But but at a certain point, your body

938
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: goes through trauma and um. As much as it funds

939
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: my existence, football isn't isn't good for you, Like it's

940
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: tough to get healthier playing football. Uh and and I

941
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: just I can't see it. Yeah, I don't think I'll

942
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: be writing next season Mia Colpa about Big Ben, but

943
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: you never know. Um. Finally, I have three quarterbacks entering

944
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: the Superstar Clube. Kyler Murray. Now this one a little

945
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: bit of and I understand that, um, but I just

946
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: want to say this. Last November fifteenth, Kyler Murray scrambled

947
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: towards his own sideline near midfield, and he up a prayer.

948
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: It was answered by DeAndre Hopkins. It was quickly dubbed

949
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: the Hail Murray. It got the um obligatory Wikipedia entry.

950
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: It was a truly special moment, and at that moment

951
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: in time, the whole football world was buzzing about Kyler

952
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Murray taking this next step and being an m VP candidate,

953
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, who are a flawed team, but we're

954
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: five and three and um there soon should be excited about.

955
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, he hre at his shoulder.

956
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy with his legs or his

957
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: arm the rest of the way, So it's a little

958
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: bit of a leap of faith. But I think this

959
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: year he's gonna go nuts. And I really I don't

960
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: know about the Cardinals because that's a tough division, and

961
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: you can make the argument the fact that it's such

962
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: a tough division will keep Murray from reaching an elevated

963
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: level of play. But I think he's an absolute, stone

964
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: cold MVP candidate and at the end of the season,

965
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: we'll be seen as a top six or seven or

966
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: even top five guy this position fighting it's projection. I mean,

967
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: he's not there yet, I don't think, but you know

968
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: when you say superstar, that's more than just numbers, and

969
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: he has that factor. I mean he's the most you

970
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: know him in Lamar the two best runners I've ever seen,

971
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: and he improved significantly in year two. So if he

972
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: did that again, like he improved significantly as a runner,

973
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: he improved significantly avoiding sacks um he was bet you

974
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: know better as a passer. But is he a top

975
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: ten quarterback right now? To me, he's like on the

976
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: edge of that, and so he will have to improve

977
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: to live up to Daddy Zeus. Is that one of

978
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: your nicknames? But that you're calling yourself daddy earlier, I'm like,

979
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: you're not my daddy, you know. I was like, which

980
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: daddy you're talking about? And that's not even factoring in

981
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: the nickname. That's really started to build a little bit

982
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: of heat. Down to Tybee Island tugboat. I mean that

983
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: one's out there now too. I didn't I didn't know.

984
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know about that one. I wasn't I wasn't

985
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: you like that one though, Huh. None of these ever

986
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: had anything to do with me. It's it's what connects

987
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: with the people that That's what it's always been. Would

988
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: you have put forth tug boat here in the circumstance

989
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: if you did not like tug boat right, yes, because

990
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: I think I literally never heard of other humans say

991
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: the New Old Blue Eyes other than you. So I

992
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: do feel like you put that forward. Listen, the triple

993
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: G or whatever you call yourself. I like, how you

994
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: that's fine? You like to put that. Yeah, I've owned

995
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: that all along. If the New Old Blue Eyes, if

996
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: tug boat, if he throws out a name all of

997
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, oh my god, this guy is ridiculous.

998
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Listen is pretty out there too, And I like, but

999
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I own it that I'm the one

1000
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I just want to say that.

1001
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: Yesterday at three fifteen pm, Dan said it was my

1002
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: forever destiny dash tug boat and all caps. So he said,

1003
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's okay Dan for

1004
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: you to like talk boat, for you to push talk

1005
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Boat forward. I'm not pushing it. The tugboat only pulled. Yeah,

1006
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: you're pulling it. He leads, all right, let's let's keep

1007
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: going here. Uh this one, I'm taking another l here,

1008
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I did put Carson Wentz in the Superstar Club.

1009
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: I thought this guy was awesome. I thought it was

1010
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: an awesome quarterback. And uh, he was not awesome last year.

1011
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: In fact, he was quite bad. And even though I

1012
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: believe him to be a real bounceback candidate Indianapolis this year,

1013
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: if he is in the Superstar Club coming off the

1014
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: season where he was one of the worst quarterbacks in football,

1015
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: that would that would be devastating for our establishment. No,

1016
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: there's no way to remain a good standing. So I

1017
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: put pushed my chips into the center of the table

1018
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: twents last year. Still believed in him. These things don't

1019
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: always work out, but I've right it or wrong obviously.

1020
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the the amount of grief you're

1021
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna take from Brady when he shows up being like,

1022
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: you know you had Wentz in here last year, man

1023
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: sitting here over over me last year, Like give me

1024
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: the entire corner of the club I own it or

1025
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: else I'm not coming in again for that sort of

1026
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: disrespect going wents over me. Perhaps it was this particular

1027
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: venue that that Brady was mentioning in his in his

1028
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: fame him every moment he was talking about Dan Hanson's

1029
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: Superstar Club, Umbled Waters. I like it the updated QB membership,

1030
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: Alan Brady, Lamar Mahomes, Kyler, Dak Rogers, Ryan, Deshaun Russell Wilson.

1031
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: I have a little close calls category. Matt Ryan. I

1032
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: did think very hard about whether it's time to say

1033
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: goodbye one of the great pocket pastors of his generation,

1034
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: but also not been quite the same guy since Kyle

1035
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: Shanahan l But I just felt it was not the

1036
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: right time with Arthur Smith and this Kyle Pitt's character

1037
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: entering the fray too to bail on the guy. So

1038
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: he's getting one more year running back. Nick Chubb's in

1039
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler, I'll give him credit. He said, next year

1040
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: you will have Nick Chubb the Superstar Club, and now

1041
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: he is in the Superstar Club. Great pff stat leads

1042
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: the NFL over the past two seasons with a hundred

1043
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: and twenty four broken tackles on foight carries. He's a

1044
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: truck machine, but he's not just a lumbering bruiser. He

1045
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: has a bunch of home run place too. He's a

1046
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: badass um and out and this one is controversial voice.

1047
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: This one I really debated as well. Zekiel Elliott, he

1048
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: gone and I and I tried not to succumb to

1049
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: recency bias on this because as bad as his was,

1050
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: and it was bad, he didn't he wasn't explosive, he

1051
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: was putting the ball on the carpet. He was a mess.

1052
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: He's still just twenty five. He's still in a really

1053
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: good offense, even if the line isn't what it used

1054
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: to be. Uh. He clearly, if he shows up in

1055
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: great shape like we're hearing, UH is a candidate to

1056
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: have a big bounce back season. Um, but you can't

1057
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: ignore that he hasn't quite been the same guy the

1058
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Uh. So I did throw it

1059
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: to I just said, let the people decide. I put

1060
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: it up there on Twitter late last night. Simple question,

1061
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: is Ezekiel Elliott a superstar? And guess what almost votes

1062
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: cast so far? And six of the people say no.

1063
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: So that's where I went. I went the people decided.

1064
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree with the people? Well, I, you know,

1065
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: if it's Tim versus Chubb, then then you made the

1066
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: right choice. I guess I gotta look at the whole

1067
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: list because I do think this one statistically could come

1068
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: back to haunt you. You know, he's been in the

1069
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: league what five years. In three of those years he

1070
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: went over sevred and fifty yards from scrimmage, and I

1071
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of would put him over that. This year again,

1072
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: I think, I think ruggle to this. I see it's

1073
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna get one more, one more big year, and this

1074
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: smells like the year. The offensive line still looks great,

1075
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: the passing game is great. He's gonna be ready to go,

1076
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: and I think there's a decent chance he'll be more

1077
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: explosive and look a little better and and just rack

1078
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: up numbers because he's gonna get the all three fifty

1079
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: times and be a nice little fantasy You know, this

1080
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: is the time to buy in. I think on fantasy

1081
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: his value is at a low. You do have a

1082
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: bylow opportunity I think was Zeke. But if we're talking

1083
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: about the Superstar Club, one thing that I'm seeing it's

1084
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: a trend where Dan is concerned about projecting into the

1085
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: next year, and those are the areas where I think

1086
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: we end up regretting inclusion into the Superstar clueing well,

1087
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: then Kyler could be a problem. He could be another

1088
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: after year to mistake, like Juju or something. In terms

1089
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: of if we're just looking at at Chub versus Zeke,

1090
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: Like anybody can can grant superstardom based on the past.

1091
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: But but what this club seeks to do, in my

1092
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: opini as somebody who values it greatly, UM, is provide

1093
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: an accurate depiction of the value that this player adds

1094
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: to the sport. And and currently Nick Chubb doesn't get

1095
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: the love that he should, and we have rectified that

1096
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: in the Superstar Club. And Zeke did not perform well

1097
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 1: last year. So I think it's I think it's easy,

1098
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: perfectly said. I mean, this is why Claibron gets the

1099
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: prime Friday night DJ sets at the club. Um, it's

1100
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: a second job. It pays well, he can hang out

1101
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: with the players. That is a good question. He just

1102
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: respects the respects the club so much. If if Claibron

1103
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: and that I do like. I like the idea, but

1104
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't quite see it. If claib we're

1105
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: working at a high end, elite let's say nightclub, whether

1106
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: it's West Hollywood, let's just stick it in West Hollywood. Um,

1107
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: what what would be his position at said club general manager?

1108
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I think I think he would just run the place

1109
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: for you. You know, I don't know that's why you're

1110
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: the owner, though, Yeah, I don't. I'm you in a

1111
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: kind of a no fun job though, Claybone, I'm sorry.

1112
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: It's okay. I don't mind being a man of the people.

1113
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: What's the club, Ricky? Where? Where's where's Claybon working? It's

1114
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: One Oak. If you're going to be at a club,

1115
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: you gotta be at One Oak. Is that the trendy,

1116
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: fashionable establishment club. That's like you'll see bab You'll see

1117
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Chris Brown like One Oak. There's l A and I

1118
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: think Vegas one too. Can you get in that, Ricky?

1119
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: Where are you at? On the social letter? I have

1120
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: gotten in once, but it took took a lot of work.

1121
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: What did it take? Let me get it wasn't worth it? No,

1122
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't um all right? So there you go. Uh.

1123
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: The updated running back membership is say Kwan Barkley, which

1124
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: I did give a little thought on. It's been a

1125
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: tough situation with him and that knee injury return tables murky,

1126
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do anything rash there Um Barkley, Chub,

1127
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Derrick, Henry, Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey. I had

1128
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of a dilemma over Aaron Jones, but

1129
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: ultimately I think it was similar probably the one faced

1130
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: by the Packers before they gave that man his bag.

1131
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: He's really good, but you know, is he great? He's

1132
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: not in the club right He's not in right now?

1133
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: I think that is. I have a feeling that is

1134
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: the most solid, inarguably group on the list. I think

1135
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: you did well bringing Chubbin. Thanks all, right, wide receiver?

1136
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: We have two wide receivers in and this was this

1137
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: was tough. So I put an A. J. Brown for starters.

1138
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean a second round pick who was a star

1139
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: after year one and then took his game up a

1140
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: couple of notches in year two. So now he's entering

1141
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: year three. He's a yak monster. Um, he's fearless, uh

1142
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: over the middle, He's just a perfect guy you want

1143
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: on your team. And Ryan Tannehill's in love with him. Uh.

1144
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: And now you put Julio Jones up, line him up

1145
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: opposite of him, and I just think that Brown is

1146
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: setting himself up to produce a level that few of

1147
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: his peers can match in year three. I just love

1148
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: the guy. Um, so I put him in And are

1149
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: you guys okay with a J. Brown. Yeah, he gets

1150
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: knocked out, but yeah, that makes sense. I took out Odell.

1151
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: M hm. He I mean he continues backham to be

1152
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: a buzzy summertime pick here and as a guy that

1153
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: could deliver a big season reminiscent of the Giant States.

1154
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: But in truth, I just don't think his his game

1155
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: matches his name. And it's been a while since we

1156
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 1: saw that peak superstar type production. It's been a little

1157
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: bit messy here in Cleveland with Baker and then he

1158
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: blow blows out his knee. But even before he blew

1159
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: out the knee last year, Um, outside one game where

1160
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: he exploded and showed that potential he's always had. Um,

1161
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: he just hasn't been the same guy since. Uh. Do

1162
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I think he could have a monster season here? Um? Yes,

1163
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: it's certainly within the range of outcomes. But is it

1164
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 1: also more likely in my opinion, that his best days

1165
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: are behind him almost twenty nine years old. I think

1166
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: that might be it? Mm hmm, I think can have

1167
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: we what's your your standard regarding can when lose membership

1168
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: in the Superstar Club due to injury specifically, Um, there's

1169
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: you don't get Yeah, you don't get any cookies for that.

1170
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: It's it's an unfortunate aspect of the game. And if

1171
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: you suffer devastating lower body injury, it needs to be

1172
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 1: taken into consideration. It's tough because like like Brady, he's

1173
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: just like unquestionably a superstar in in um, no matter

1174
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: how long how many injuries he gets. And uh, he's

1175
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: still so young that you think, like all that talent

1176
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: and hasn't gone anywhere. It's on a relative scale, it's

1177
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: pretty young. I'm just saying it's turning twenty nine this season.

1178
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: He should have good years left. So it's dangerous. This

1179
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: is a dangerous one. It's very dangerous at and especially

1180
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: knowing some of the other wide receivers that are still

1181
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: in the club. And there was so much promise there, right.

1182
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned the breakout Week four against the Cowboys. I

1183
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: lose track of when that was, but it was an explosion,

1184
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: right And and even on the play where you know

1185
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: Baker underthrows and it gets picked off, he's he's being O'Dell,

1186
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: he's being extremely athletic, he's trying to make a tackle.

1187
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: He blows his cruise ship. Right, Um, it's there, right, O'Dell.

1188
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: Is was there at some point, But do we know, uh,

1189
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: the capacity to which this this guy is, this otherworldly

1190
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: athlete who is able to do those things. Can he

1191
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: still do that now? And is he in the right

1192
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: place to do that even if he has that ability

1193
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: still it's and and wide receivers deeper with like you know,

1194
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: there's so many different guys that was like, hey, that's

1195
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: a top ten receiver, but you look around the league

1196
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: and it is deeper than it's ever been in terms

1197
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: of great wide outs. So Odell will have to bring

1198
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: back some two thousand and sixteen seventeen O'Dell to get

1199
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: to that level. It's a better field than it was

1200
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: back then. That's fair. That's fair, all right, up next

1201
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs and what else needs to be said. Obviously

1202
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: he was a total monster and and in that offense

1203
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: that is unchanged with Brian Dave b all there, it's

1204
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: just going to continue. I think him along with Davante Adams,

1205
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't have two wide receivers that are more you

1206
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: lock it in, but put money in the bank. If

1207
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: this guy with with good health is gonna have a

1208
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: monster here, I trust him over just about anybody in

1209
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: the league. And I had to take out somebody. This

1210
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: one was real tough. I moved Mike Evans out of

1211
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club. What do you guys think about that?

1212
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm a struggle with that one. Well, is that

1213
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: it for receivers? Get here's you got a Marie Cooper

1214
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: in there? Right? The updated membership is Davante, A. J. Brown, Cooper,

1215
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, Tyree killed DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, Michael Thomas.

1216
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: And that's it, no more, no more changes. Yeah, I

1217
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: would receivers where I have some bones to pick, I'd

1218
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: get Cooper out of there. I probably would have kept

1219
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: Odell in. I might put Alan Robinson in there too.

1220
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who I would have to take it.

1221
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: Maybe then I take out Evans at that point, Um,

1222
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: Cooper is a great player, you know, but I think

1223
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: you can be a great player and not a superstar.

1224
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: Like I get that his route running this and that

1225
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: and the other. Like to me, he is not he isn't.

1226
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: We've I've seen enough that I feel like I know

1227
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: he is. He is not that level Stefan Diggs, Davante

1228
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: Adams or even maybe a peak Mike Evans. I I

1229
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: don't think Amari Cooper is quite quite there. Yeah, it's

1230
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: it's that it's the question of what level do we

1231
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: take production into what makes a superstar? Right? Um? Because

1232
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: there's that. You know, he plays in Dallas, right Mars

1233
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: the number one receiver on a loaded roster. But you

1234
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: can say the same argument for the Super Bowl champion

1235
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: and and Mike Evans. Um. But it is zero sums.

1236
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been in the league. It's it's horrible

1237
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: to be picking on such a great player, and there

1238
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: are reasons for all of this, but he's been in

1239
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: the league for seven years and he hasn't top twelve

1240
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: hundred yards. It's like, I don't know, last year, you

1241
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: might have making me think that the copy might have

1242
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: to shift on this one. I struggle that. Yeah, playing

1243
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: without Doak for most of the last season, he still

1244
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: went for two for eleven fourteen. He's great, He's great

1245
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: at football. But this is an exclusive club, Okay, And

1246
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: just and just so you know, I did struggle with

1247
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: this because we are enjoying an incredible boom at this position.

1248
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: You can make a case for you mentioned Allan Robinson,

1249
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. I thought about Justin Jefferson, uh coming off

1250
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: that rookie year DJ Metcalf. These are a lot of

1251
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: guys and and it makes me think, do I need

1252
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: to relax the zero some rule and and put more

1253
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: wide receivers in? I don't know. I can't decide. It's hard.

1254
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: There's there's there's a real case for DK I think

1255
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: as well, Um, yeah, I wouldn't have k Should I relax?

1256
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: Should I make an exemption because of the uh see

1257
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: change at wide receiver? No? You basically with you better

1258
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: pick the right number of guys at that position at

1259
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: the first year. Yeah, yeah, I would uh, all right,

1260
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: fair enough. Finally, tight End. I haven't even written about

1261
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: tight End in recent years because there's just not enough

1262
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: guys um, which is kind of weird. Because there's so

1263
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: many hyper athletic playmakers coming out of the college game

1264
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: every year, you would think there would be more guys

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Speaker 1: that would be like a um Kyle Pitts coming into

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Speaker 1: the league every year, and in some ways there is.

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Speaker 1: There's always some tight End people are over the moon about,

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Speaker 1: although pits of course a level of hype that we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen, um really ever in my memory at tight end.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Darren Waller is a superstar for me. Now.

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Speaker 1: He set career highs across the board. And I know

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Speaker 1: he's not the all around player that Travis Kelsey or

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Speaker 1: George Kittle is, but I think there's just something to

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Speaker 1: be said for a guy that plays tight end and

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Speaker 1: can line up on the outside and beat cornerbacks uh

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Speaker 1: down the down on the field and and make plays

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Speaker 1: over the middle and be the security blanket that he

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Speaker 1: was for Derek Carr. He was, if you look at

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Speaker 1: his last five games last season, uncoverable UM. And he's

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Speaker 1: a really nice success story, a guy that overcame personal

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Speaker 1: problems and addiction to become uh to me, a superstar

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Speaker 1: at tight end. So it's a three man field. I

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Speaker 1: took out Gronk, no disrespect to Gronk, but came out

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Speaker 1: of retirement last season. He was very good, especially for

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Speaker 1: somebody who hadn't played football in almost two years. But

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Speaker 1: he's certainly not the game plan shredding force of nature

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Speaker 1: he was in his younger years before all the injuries

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01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: caught up to him. But there he goes a three

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Speaker 1: man crew. Kelsey, Kittle, Waller. He had to make that move.

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Speaker 1: And that's even as someone who I think thinks Gronks

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Speaker 1: was a little underrated and he ended up playing more

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Speaker 1: snaps than almost any tight end the league coming off

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Speaker 1: that back and if you count the playoffs, I think

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Speaker 1: he was number two and snaps like he was on

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Speaker 1: the field. He helped him, but he's he's not Darren

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Speaker 1: Waller at the I mean in terms of a difference

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Speaker 1: maker right now, in no way. Yeah, it's those three

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Speaker 1: and everybody else. It's it's clear and obvious, including grow.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, like, you know how easy it is

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Speaker 1: to get sucked up by things this time of year

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: is like should I just get get fun, get cute

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Speaker 1: and put Kyle Pitts in and just ride the ride

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: the wave and just hope everyone that knows more than

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: me about the college game is right that this guy

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01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 1: is a you know, put him in Canton, uh in

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01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: twenty years type talent. But no, the Superstar Club everything

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: is earned. Uh So go fill up the water cooler, kid.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're because your clientele is not just the

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Speaker 1: the I don't know it's the public ever allowed into

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Speaker 1: the super circle, but I guess not your clientsell are

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: the superstars. I think you would have some upset superstars,

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, justin Jefferson or some of these young players

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: who aren't in and they're like, what, you just gave

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: it to a rookie and we can't even get in,

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: or the ones that have really had to earn their spots,

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: or Nick Chubbs, like what, you just give this guy

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: a free pass. You might have some upset superstars if yeah,

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Speaker 1: I won't do that. It's a good call, it good point.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really consider it that way, but you're absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: So the only thing, and thank you boys for this um.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that I'm really hung up on. I

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Speaker 1: kind of think, and I'm leaning towards Jefferson, but Ridley,

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: Robinson and Metcalf all makes sense to maybe putting one

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Speaker 1: of those dudes in and taking out Cooper. Who would

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Speaker 1: you if I gave you those four players Jefferson, Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson and d J. Metcalf Who would get in

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01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: over a MARII I can only give. I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't take anybody else out. It just wouldn't make any sense.

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01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: It would defeat the entire exercise. I only have room

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Speaker 1: for one that's tough. It's really hard. I would I

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Speaker 1: would make the d K argument, Um, he meets the

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Speaker 1: the external qualities of a superstar and he's he's got

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Speaker 1: all the production, um, the plays, the splash of the ability.

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Speaker 1: I think, I'm I think, I'm I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think of those three, it's d K. I think Robinson

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Speaker 1: has the best resume and deserves it. Um. But DK

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Speaker 1: has got that genes se quad and he is a superstar.

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01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: And Jefferson deserves it too. But at least K has

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: been in the league an extra year there and made

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: that leap. I think I think it would be my pay.

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: The irony with Allen Robinson is the very reason what

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01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: makes the case for him being a superstar. That he

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Speaker 1: does it without good quarterback play ultimately is keeping him

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01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: out because you imagine there's a better version of him

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: potentially if he ever has a real quarterback, and maybe

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: now he does with justin fields, but he kind of

1347
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: lives in this like football purgatory because of the Bears

1348
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: middling ways in recent years. So I really struggle. I

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Speaker 1: want to kind of give him, uh some type of

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: honor for putting up with all this madness and nonsense

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, and maybe you throw him in the Superstar

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: Club and maybe he sees it just like Al Baker

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: saw that, and he sits on his porch at his

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: condo and looks out at this sea and a tier

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01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: goes down his cheek. Maybe I don't know. I can't

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Speaker 1: say whether or not that would happen, but ultimately yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you guys both say mecha, if he's going in

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Speaker 1: Cooper's coming out, I'm gonna just the copy. He's got

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Speaker 1: the sizzle. I mean, the Superstar Club is not all

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: about production either. Jefferson's got a lot of sizzle, great personality.

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: DK's got the sizzle. I'm sorry, Alan Robinson fans. All Right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. That's at the two thousand one Superstar Club.

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Speaker 1: Also a superstar Al Bubba Baker. How about that joining

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Speaker 1: us surprise appearance. You should have seen Greg's face? Oh

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Speaker 1: my good, very very surprised. It was awesome. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether they're called Al or bubba Um.

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be completely honest, And this really does play

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Speaker 1: into the whole conversation. I mean, if if the sack

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Speaker 1: was a a stat that was kept back, then everyone

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Speaker 1: knows he's a household name, and I would know whether

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Speaker 1: he goes by Al or Bubba, but he predates me.

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: His that season was a couple of years before I

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: was born. Uh, you guys as well. So I'm glad

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: that he's getting some pop out of this. And hopefully

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: if the football coagna Senti, I will say this, Ricky

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: jump in a second. If the football coagna Centi is

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: paying attention to our podcast, there's some news in that

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01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: little uh interview, And maybe Ricky, you could tell our

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: own NFL desk about that, and and and Al can

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01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: get some pop off this pod. That would be nice

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Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I think this is gonna be great

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: for him. He was so sweet, hard guy not to

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01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: root for. Super nice dude. Okay, good stuff, Patrick, you

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: are well. You said it all start there. Second of all,

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: you came in on short notice. You're wearing a tie,

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: which means you have real work to do right after this.

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: So we thank you so much from pinch hitting and

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: uh you're the man. Thank you, Bud All. Thanks Thanks Patrick,

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: get well soon, Mark Sessler. Our schedule, we're off the

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01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: rest of the week. We'll be back nearly full tilt

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Speaker 1: Tilt start next week. We'll have a show Monday. We'll

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Speaker 1: have a show Thursday, and then the network shows back Friday.

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Speaker 1: So hang tight. Thank you for riding with us all

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01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: these years, and we're gonna keep riding going forward like

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: Bubba Baker riding right through an offensive line and destroying

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Speaker 1: everything in this past. Until Monday, PETA call, h