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Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Swim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc Well in honor of the other football in

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Speaker 1: the World Cup that's going on right now. Anyone to

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Speaker 1: use takes a dig at me, I'm just gonna immediately

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Speaker 1: hit the floor here. I'm gonna really embellish. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: accentuate it. Darren A surprise, say I'm gonna flop you know,

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Speaker 1: well was a surprise. Darren Rman basketball guy Danny Serek

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Speaker 1: over there a purveyor of all sports Yours. Julie paul

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Speaker 1: a podcast is filled in for Ron Wolfley. This week,

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Speaker 1: I bring up Jay Williams because he came on and

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Speaker 1: took a shot at all the flopping in soccer. Jay

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Speaker 1: will the former point guard, extraordinary duke in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, now, wait a minute, Jay, are you

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Speaker 1: telling me what in the sam name of Manu Genoboli? Right?

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Speaker 1: And and who else would be some of the all

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Speaker 1: time great floppers in NBA history. Here's here's Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Even in this day, Chris Paul has a rep as

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Speaker 1: being in a flopper if you want to keep a

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Speaker 1: I will say this, there's absolutely lots of flopping in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, but the flopping is to like get the

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Speaker 1: foul and then I mean, nobody's acting like the hurt.

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Speaker 1: They just go down like they took a foul. In

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Speaker 1: of invisible snipers around the field. And there was there

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Speaker 1: was a play in the h Iran US game. I

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Speaker 1: players went down and I'm like, oh man, that that's

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Speaker 1: not good. And then they showed the replay. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he barely got tripped and he's writhing around like he

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Speaker 1: just his entire leg came apart at the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: so it is true. I mean, you watch some of

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Speaker 1: these soccer matches and you're like, okay, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: plays another forty five minutes of full breakneck soccer. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it's It's probably the least enjoyable part to watch the game,

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Speaker 1: but still exciting. Nonetheless, Yes, the United States. Moments ago,

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Speaker 1: there was a bunch of shouting around the hallways cards

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Speaker 1: and I said to myself, well, hopefully that means they

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Speaker 1: brought home the victory because there was a one nothing lead. Lake,

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Speaker 1: let's get an update here. Let's take attendance. Three of

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Speaker 1: us are here. As for the locker room, not so much.

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Speaker 1: They're gone for the rest of the week, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know how the mail bags look in these days, Darren.

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Speaker 1: I know there was some dismay among the media members

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Speaker 1: who are very much looking forward to their bye weekend,

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Speaker 1: but when they learned that the Cardinals players will be

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Speaker 1: off basically Tuesday through Sunday. But that is in keeping

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Speaker 1: since Cliff Kingsbury basically showed up, which was basically give

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Speaker 1: I mean, the coaches are going to do a little

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Speaker 1: the balance of the week. There. First of all, they're

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Speaker 1: Normally they'd be here Monday, they would have had an

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Speaker 1: have an extra day when they come back. It's Monday

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Speaker 1: night football against the Patriots. They're not coming back for

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Speaker 1: buy this team's ever had. They instituted the buy in

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Speaker 1: the NFL in nineteen ninety. The previous latest by the

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Speaker 1: by So it's it's they've they've grinded for a long time. Again,

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Speaker 1: the results aren't there, and we're not make no mistake,

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Speaker 1: We're not sitting here trying to excuse, uh necessarily the

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Speaker 1: to be quote unquote doing football twenty four seven. I don't.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: so it look Besides, if you had come out against

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Speaker 1: see that that's not the case. They come out, they

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Speaker 1: played hard. Physicality was there, the energy, the intensity was

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Speaker 1: Obviously didn't end the way they wanted it to, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't from a lack of effort. And it wasn't

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Speaker 1: because okay, coach has to be punitive to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: till the very end, win or lose, whether you're in

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Speaker 1: the playoff race or not. To start the game, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals looked like a different team the first The first

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Speaker 1: Cardinals came back on that next possession and they scored.

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Speaker 1: They weren't hung up on it. They had a ten

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Speaker 1: didn't feel like the same Cardinals team offensively, at least

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Speaker 1: that's not acceptable. You have to be able to run

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Speaker 1: but the postgame radio Q and A. Calvin Beecham was excellent.

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Speaker 1: stupid football. And then I followed up, I said stupid football.

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Speaker 1: That's something they identified and that was a pattern. But

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the other guy makes a play. They punted, then

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Speaker 1: Now I'm watching the blitz. I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: but if hop doesn't get his hand there, that's going

427
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Speaker 1: directly to a charger. It looked like so honestly, and

428
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: once again, this is us thinking out loud. If there

429
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Speaker 1: are priorities, you're making your list and checking it twice

430
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Speaker 1: this holiday season during the bye week, and you're gonna

431
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Speaker 1: self scout and try and self improve, and you have

432
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Speaker 1: the extra day going into the next game, which is

433
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Speaker 1: Monday night, Week fourteen against the Patriots, then I wonder

434
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Speaker 1: if for a return to the basics, a return to

435
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Speaker 1: the fundamentals and the mechanics for Kyler Murray, I went up,

436
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: that's somewhere in the works. If indeed, for example, let's

437
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: say he's going home for some mental health you know,

438
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: he does a lot of working out in the North

439
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: Dallas area, where he's worked out quite a bit the

440
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: last couple off seasons, and maybe he gets out there

441
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: heck with his dad, who's a former quarterback, and they

442
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: try and get back to some of the basics of

443
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Speaker 1: those mechanics. I would like to think that the fact

444
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Speaker 1: that we have taken note of this for so many

445
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: weeks with the deep ball that Kyler Murray has as well,

446
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: I would imagine that this has been a conversation in

447
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks room or with the offense as a whole,

448
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: talking with his receivers, whatever that might be, it has

449
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: been really interesting. The accuracy just overall has not been there.

450
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: And not only that, I just feel like the confidence

451
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: for this team to pull out a miraculous win, which

452
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: is surprising because they obviously did that in Vegas. But

453
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Speaker 1: that's really been it. And I was standing on the

454
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Speaker 1: field I go down the last couple minutes of the game.

455
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I was actually walking down the tunnel when Hot made

456
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Speaker 1: that one hand at catch, and as soon as the

457
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Chargers scored, I remember thinking this time last year, and

458
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Speaker 1: I was I was specifically thinking about green Bay when

459
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were behind and they didn't have time. At

460
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Speaker 1: least for me, I still had faith that the Cardinals

461
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: could find a way to at least put themselves in

462
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Speaker 1: field goal position, but go for the touchdown and at

463
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: least tie the game or take the lead at the

464
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: end that Murray magic. Standing there on the field fifteen

465
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: seconds left against the Chargers, you just didn't feel that.

466
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: It just feels different. I gotta be honest, I agree

467
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Speaker 1: with you about the Green Bay thing and the circumstances

468
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: at that point, but this iteration of the Cardinals, I'm

469
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: talking about the Cliff Kyler era You've never really gotten

470
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: a big sense of come from behind at the end.

471
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Speaker 1: Usually you feel the best when they're playing from ahead.

472
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Speaker 1: And the Raiders game happened to be one of those

473
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Speaker 1: crazy endings, and I thought maybe it would change some things.

474
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Speaker 1: But again, when you start talking about finishing, they didn't

475
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Speaker 1: even need a score at the into this game. All

476
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: they needed was a couple of first downs and that

477
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: probably would have put the Chargers out of it. And

478
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: they just they went nowhere. And it was stunning to me,

479
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: to be honest. They had the trio of three and

480
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: out sixteen total yards and then the two plays at

481
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Speaker 1: the very end. So that's the way it ended. And

482
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: what does that mean going forward? I mean, you had

483
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Speaker 1: a very productive offense at times until then you know

484
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, okay, what do you do during the

485
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Speaker 1: bye week while you're gonna self scout? What does that mean?

486
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Speaker 1: And to me, calvic consulting, Okay, what do you see

487
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan do very well? Sean mcvade is some degree

488
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: they break tendencies. Drew Stanton talks a lot about that

489
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Speaker 1: in our pregame show about those really good offenses in

490
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Speaker 1: the offensive masterminds they get in when they can, and

491
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: they just try and break tendencies. So when you had

492
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Speaker 1: that second down blitz that resulted in that key sack

493
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Speaker 1: and loss on that sec in a last possession, well

494
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: that was a pattern during the game. Could you break

495
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Speaker 1: a tendency? Is how do you respond to that? For example?

496
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Speaker 1: So you know James Connor was so successful and then

497
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: was bottled up at the end. You know, do you

498
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: need to break tendency just for the sake of doing

499
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Speaker 1: something different? Because I would say, just the eyeball test,

500
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Speaker 1: if there's one indictment of the offense at times it

501
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: appears too predictable and it appears too easy for maybe

502
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: a defense to scheme and match up. That was a

503
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: topic last season. How last season ended? Was it not

504
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: adjust to the adjustment? Remember we talked about that last

505
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: December and had posing defenses figured things out. Van's Joseph Well,

506
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Speaker 1: I firmly believe every Thursday he meets the media, he

507
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: talks big picture football, and I think he's sending veiled

508
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: messages to the locker room whether he's talking about effort,

509
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: and he means it in ten different things. And it

510
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: was a while, but I thought the players and coaches

511
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: never looked in the media, So what would be the

512
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Speaker 1: point of that. Yeah, they're right, no one, no one

513
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: ever actually checks what's being said. And did he not say?

514
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Speaker 1: He said a couple of different things, and I'll just

515
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Speaker 1: throw it out there. About a month ago, he mentioned,

516
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Speaker 1: going into this whole stretch of NFC West opponents, how

517
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Speaker 1: imperative it is for any team to build from the

518
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: inside out offensive line, defensive line. Where have the cardinal's

519
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: been thin this year in the trenches? That may or

520
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: may not have been a message, that's just me reading

521
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: into it. And then the other thing he threw out

522
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: there was that every single scheme both sides of the ball,

523
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Speaker 1: after four week period or so, at least halfway through

524
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: a season, other teams have figured it out, and you

525
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: have to evolve. It's a must. It's not just okay

526
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: if needed, No, it's needed. And so is that happening?

527
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Speaker 1: Is that a common denominator over the last three years,

528
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Speaker 1: the end of the last two years, and at times

529
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Speaker 1: throughout this year. And it's not an excuse, but I'm

530
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Speaker 1: just curious how much more difficult that is when you

531
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: have eight starting offensive line combinations, when you've got receivers

532
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: in and out. In a Hard Knocks episode, Kyler Murray

533
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: described it as a revolving door. People constantly come in

534
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: and going when it comes to injuries. And that's not

535
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: to excuse all of that, because if you have depth,

536
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: the point of having that depth is to have that

537
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: next man out mentality and to have trust and faith

538
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: in those players that are stepping up and that they

539
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: understand the playbook well enough to come in and play

540
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: to the best of their ability. But I wonder how

541
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: much that's hindered, you know, being able to adjust, is

542
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the fact that they haven't had a lot of consistency

543
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: there well, And that's the thing is ultimately, when you

544
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: have injuries, it's not so much that you can't adjust

545
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: or break your tendencies, but there is a feeling, especially

546
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: when you're bringing guys that haven't played before or haven't

547
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: been on the roster all season or for training camp,

548
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: there is a tendency to I mean, how many times

549
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: have we talked about, Okay, they want to make things

550
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more simple. Well, when you start making

551
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: things more simple, it's harder to break tendencies because there's

552
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: less available. Well, advance Jose may that point. I remember

553
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: last year. You got to keep it simple for a

554
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Zaving Collins or what have you who as a rookie.

555
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: But you can only make it so simple, too are

556
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: it becomes way too easy for opposing and experienced quarterback

557
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: to carve you up. So but I'll give you another example.

558
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of the current starting interior

559
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: offensive line in last week and he mentioned, when this

560
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: sort of current iteration of the interior line which keeps changing,

561
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: it's the eight different offensive line combination in this last

562
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: game against the Chargers because you had Max Garcia starting

563
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: at right guard. Mentioned, you know what, when we first

564
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: started this current group, we were literally stepping on each

565
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: other's feet. Snap the ball, stepping on each other's feet.

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Speaker 1: That's all it takes. That's all it takes. Is if

567
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I didn't get out of the gates quite as quick

568
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: as I need to, and all of a sudden, this

569
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: three technique has the edge on me. He's got the

570
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: leverage on me because I didn't get to the spot

571
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: and beat him to the spot because I ran into

572
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Speaker 1: the guy next to me. So when you hear all

573
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: this stuff and you think it's a cliche, oh, the

574
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: cohesion and the chemistry and the offensive line. No, it's

575
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: a real thing, because it can actually look like that

576
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: in practice when you're putting a bunch of new names

577
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: and faces and bodies out there and they're trying to

578
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: mesh together. It's funny that you're calling it when a

579
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of times when we're talking about sports and cohesion

580
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: and chemistry, we're literally talking about some intangible that's hard

581
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: to see. But when you start talking about chemistry in

582
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: terms of not stepping on each other's feet, that's a

583
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: very tangible thing, big deal. In fact, I did what

584
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: I did best, and I asked the dumb question. It

585
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: was in between the first and second quarter on the sideline.

586
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: I asked someone who would know. I said, is this

587
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: a different run scheme? With gog? With Googler gone and

588
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Steve Hyden in and stares Steve hidenstand right next to

589
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the Cliff Kingsbury and there's Steve Hiden running the offensive line?

590
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: And I said, is this a different run scheme? And

591
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: this A person in the know on the sideline scoffed

592
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: and said, are you think we can't put that in

593
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: at this point? With all new offensive linemen? Can't do that?

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00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: So let's just stop with your questions. First of all,

595
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: let's make this very clear, Like we did against the

596
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: Rams when everybody was talking about Colt McCoy played really

597
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: well and they blitzed the Rams, And okay, who were

598
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: you playing? The Chargers are an awful, awful, historically bad.

599
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: They weren't even the worst in the league coming into

600
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: the game. Well, it was the yards per carry they're

601
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: giving up was the worst since the merger got it

602
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: five point four six and they had given up what

603
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty at least one hundred fifty seven yards

604
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: rushing in each of the games, straight straight games. So

605
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: to give up one hundred to get one hundred eighty

606
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: one yards rushing very good for the Cardinals, not taking

607
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: anything away from James Connor or what they did on

608
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: the ground, But that wasn't the forty nine ers you

609
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: were playing, you know. And it you're not getting one

610
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: hundred eighty one yards rushing against the Patriots, I'm guessing

611
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: which is your next game? No, I mean, I just

612
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: couldn't believe the ease with which James Conner was getting

613
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Speaker 1: to the second level. Honestly, wasn't it weird? Like at

614
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: the beginning of the game, like he kept. First of all,

615
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: James Connor does bounce outside. I'm not sure if that's

616
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: he should do it as much as he does given

617
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: his skill set at this point. But he was bouncing

618
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: outside and there was nobody there. Now. I don't know

619
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: if the Chargers were always trying to like, we gotta

620
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: get extra guys in the box because otherwise they'll kill

621
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: us right up the middle. But he was bouncing outside

622
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: and getting so many yards. It was it looked like

623
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: he was doing it with his first hundred plus yard

624
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 1: rushing game as a Cardinal, which is pretty crazy, it is,

625
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: considering how many like touchdowns he had last year. I

626
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: think I checked that twice in the sideline. We were

627
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: talking about it with the jim Ala Hundre up in

628
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: the booth. I'm like, what is that real? Are you serious?

629
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there, I'm checking in and I'm like, okay,

630
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I guess so I knew he hadn't had one hundred

631
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: yard game that the thing. The thing that was tough

632
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: was he had fifty four yards at the end of

633
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: the first quarter and he finished with one hundred twenty.

634
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Not bad, but you thought he was going to have

635
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: a bigger game than that the way it was going.

636
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: But you're right. I mean that Chargers defense early just

637
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: looked unsounded. It was so bad. And you know what

638
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: the word unsound. Guess what the Patriots are the utter

639
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: opposite of that. The Patriots agree or disagree. Don't have

640
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: the most talent in the league, not even close, but

641
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: they're not going to beat themselves. They will be in

642
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. Honestly. One of

643
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: the most regrettable I'll use the word regrettable losses in

644
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: the last three four years was the COVID year at

645
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: New England. Yes, you're on that trip trip that you

646
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: know what that trip was all about. That trip was

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: the two of us, the two of us and the

648
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: N ninety five Mass. It was the N ninety five

649
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Mass plus the cloth mask over it. From the moment

650
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: you got on the team bus to the plane, to

651
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: the buses in New England to the hotel. I think

652
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: it was nine plus hours, Darren. We had the N

653
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: ninety five mask odds until you got to your room

654
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: all by yourself, and then you could take the mask off.

655
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: That's how strict the COVID protocols were at the time.

656
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: But what was worse because it can always get worse.

657
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Was watching Cam Newton stink up the yard with a

658
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: passer rating somewhere in the twenties and still engineer of victory.

659
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Why because the Patriots were sound everywhere else, They got

660
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: like a special team's touchdown. They weren't a liability on defense,

661
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: and Even's got a bad fifteen yard penalty. Yeah, you're right,

662
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: And so that's what scares me about this Patriots game.

663
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: No one on the roster, none of the names, none

664
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: of the talent, but it's they're gonna come in and

665
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: guess what if you are playing the quote stupid football

666
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: and or self inflicted, two phrases we've heard all year,

667
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: The Patriots will find a way to beat you, and

668
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: you and you'll be your own worst enemy. Not to

669
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: sound like a complete down or two. I know, mathematically,

670
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: I know, here we go. I'm so sorry. At four

671
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: and eight. The Cardinals mathematically are not eliminated from playoffs,

672
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: but it pretty much feels that way, especially hearing from

673
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: players in the locker room kind of talking about you

674
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: have to look in the mirror and figure out how

675
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: do you want to finish the season. I'm writing that

676
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: very exact story, really do you want to quote me

677
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: here here? You know they have five more opportunities. And

678
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: when you talk about self inflicting wounds to think of,

679
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, things like that, Paul, it makes me think

680
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: of just what the players were echoing of. How do

681
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: you want to finish? And even though you might be

682
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: thinking we're not going to make the playoffs almost, what's

683
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: the point that that's just not the mentality you can

684
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: have because first of all, everybody playing and coaching, you

685
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: are constantly playing and coaching for your job. And also,

686
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about it on this podcast. You

687
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: want to be the type of teammate in that locker

688
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: room that you would want to sit next to if

689
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: you're playing with somebody right now, and then you sit

690
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: next to them that same locker room next year, and

691
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: you think about the fact that think about what Buddha

692
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: Baker was saying a couple of weeks ago in Mexico

693
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: City of not everybody played to the final whistle, you

694
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: weren't giving it. You're all you want to be playing

695
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: with teammates and you want to play for each other

696
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: knowing that they're going to give it. They're all. So

697
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to self inflicting wounds and things of

698
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: that nature, and still having those details. Regardless of whether

699
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: or not you're going to make the postseason, I still

700
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: think it is important to play with that mentality and

701
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: to still give it your all and try to play

702
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: the cleanest kind of football that you can. There's no

703
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: question about that. I mean, you have to do it

704
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: that way. You can't just mail it in. No very

705
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: I've done this for a long time. That usually doesn't

706
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: happen a ton. It's it happens a couple of times,

707
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: and there might be a player here or there, but

708
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, and there's a lot of

709
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: guys here who aren't under contract for next year. So

710
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: whether you're getting one here or somewhere else, you better

711
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: not look like you're just mailing it in or you're

712
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna get Troy Aikman on the national television That next

713
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: game is Monday night football. That's true. Now, that's a

714
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: great point. And if not Monday Night Football in primetime,

715
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: it's hard knocks, so you might have to own it

716
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: and wear it. Maybe on hard knocks, we'll see not

717
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: too many people have looked too bad. It's so far

718
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: in hard knocks, but it sounded great. We haven't really

719
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: seen a lot of your face, but Grilo, you're like

720
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: the stars of the show. I mean, seriously, is he

721
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: getting residuals? Craig Grilo? Are you kidding me? I'm better

722
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: they're not using any Cardinals underground, but whatever. Um. I

723
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: will say this though, that's a good point about not

724
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: that many players have long term security on this team.

725
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: So guess what if you're not on this team, then

726
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: other teams will grab your film and that's your resume

727
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: and if they see you going through the motions in

728
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: late November and December, because that might be where they start.

729
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: What kind of ball was this player? You know playing

730
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: at the very end of the season. And then yeah,

731
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, which brings us to a few names out there.

732
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, Byron Murphy now is a total unknown with

733
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: a back injury. Who knows when Vance Joseph says, yeah,

734
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, a young guy dealing with a back injury,

735
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: that's always a little dicey. But if they're going to

736
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: place Lifetackle DJ Humphries on IR with a back, is

737
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: not not any sort of hope that they're not going

738
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: to do the same with Byron. Good point, I guess

739
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: I think you're holding out hope with Byron. I think,

740
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure exactly where that goes. Maybe

741
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Byron fights it a little bit because he wants to,

742
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: because that's one of the guys that doesn't have a

743
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: contract right now. DJ Humphries is under contract. Maybe it's like, hey,

744
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, let's just shut him down and

745
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: be done with it. Plus we got Josh Jones's playing

746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: pretty good football right now. Even though Humphries could come

747
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: back with the final game two games right it was

748
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: before Sunday's game. UM Kingsbury has already ruled him out

749
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: for the season. So there's that there's um just in

750
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: no particular order. Like Zach Allen right now, Zach Allen,

751
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, are we talking about just people that don't

752
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: have contracts. Yeah, I mean big, big name integral pieces,

753
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh, Will Hernandez, Cody Ford, Rashad Coward. We could

754
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: pretty much go through most of the offensive Kelvin Beecher,

755
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Um Max Williams, but I think given his injury, we're

756
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: probably near the end there. Um. The receiving corps is

757
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: pretty solid at this point. On the other side of

758
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: the ball, I don't know if Hamilton's up. Uh, we

759
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: talked about Murphy. I think you're set on the back end. Uh,

760
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: you know the two safeties obviously, J deals JJ Watt

761
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: that's the other one. JJ Wat's a big one because

762
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: he's playing good football right now. But he's a guy,

763
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're going to address this as we

764
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: go forward at some point too. You know, where it's

765
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: not just about what you want to do with an

766
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: older player, it's what he might want to do and

767
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: where this franchise stands going forward, and how much you're

768
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: willing to pay him. You talk about receivers though, real quick.

769
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean Tweezy, right, Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson's technically under contract,

770
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: but he's under contract for twelve million dollars. Hollywood not

771
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: going to pay him. Hollywood's got another year thirteen million.

772
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't remember if Tweezy's got another year. I think

773
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: he might have another year, but I'm not really sure. Okay,

774
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I think and Tweezy's one of those guys that I

775
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: could antoine Wesley. I think he's one of those guys that,

776
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: especially if it's cliffs here, that they're going to try

777
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: and keep around. But we'll see what happened. Here's one

778
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, he signed a he signed a multi year,

779
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: dear deal. Didn't I thought about one? It just one

780
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: a year two of a two year deal. No, no, no, no,

781
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: he was a free agent going into this year. I

782
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: thought it was one year. All right, we'll look that up.

783
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: So there you go. I mean, so there's those questions

784
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: that hang out. See, dear listener, this this is what happens.

785
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: We move off course and then we didn't do the

786
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: research to find out exactly. Well, I'll take the blame

787
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: for this one, and I'm going to transition to you know,

788
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who are under contract, but what

789
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: exactly is their immediate future for different reasons, whether it's

790
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: a Trey McBride or an Isaiah Simmons. We saw Isaiah say,

791
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I tell you this much. Here's a little sideline snapshot

792
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: where the last guy off the bench was number nine

793
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: and he was very detected. He was very downbeat as

794
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: the way that game ended. How he was in coverage

795
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: in both Austin Ekeler touchdown and then the two point

796
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: conversion to win it. Both times at least based on

797
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the replay, from what I could tell, he had his

798
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: eyes in the backfield. Now, it was interesting to hear

799
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Kyle van Ebosch on the Red Sea Report this week

800
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: give Isaiah Simmons a little break on that and saying

801
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: those are very tough schemes and you know, he did

802
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: the best he could in that situation, but he took

803
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: it hard. There's no doubt he was at the end

804
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: of the bench all by himself whenever, and also's out

805
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: at midfield shaking hands and work walking towards the tunnel.

806
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: What do you have there, Darren. I'm just looking at

807
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: the salary cap for next year and Colt McCoy is

808
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: indeed under contract next year with a salary cap number

809
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: of five million. And fortunately for them, uh Kyler Murray's

810
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: cap number next year is only sixteen million before it

811
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: jumps to all get out that the number that jumps

812
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: out at you for next year's cap is hop hop

813
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: in thirty plus million. So do you do you do

814
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: something with that? I mean, they're they they've only got

815
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: thirty two guys under contract for next year, and they

816
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: do have some dead money that they're gonna have to

817
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: that they would have a I don't think aj Green's

818
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: under contracts, so that must be dead money. Um and

819
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: JJ Watts got seven million and dead money. So but

820
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: going back to what you're saying, yeah, it is, it's

821
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: interesting to see. I mean, that was a rough game

822
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: for both guys, Trey McBride, yeah times and Isaiah Simmons.

823
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: And you know, it just comes back to that conundrum

824
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: that they've faced with the young linebackers. And I include

825
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons as that even though technically he's in the

826
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: safety room and that's his position group, but the way

827
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: he's deployed quite a bit, and it just comes back

828
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: to can the coaches trust you? Period? That's what it

829
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: comes down to. And so you've seen it at times,

830
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: the offenses that target in Isaiah Simmons in coverage and

831
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: it's been effective. The Niners did it with Christian McCaffrey

832
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: also against Zavian Collins, and how many times Vance Joseph

833
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know a lot of these running backs

834
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, Guess what, you can't cover him

835
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: with a linebacker. So all right, at that point, is

836
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: me thinking it out loud, should a Buddha Baker or

837
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson be on Austin Ekeler with a game on

838
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the line, because it hasn't have been proven and seen

839
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: that although Isaiah Simmons has the speed and the length,

840
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: he has all the measurables, does he quite have the

841
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: acumen and the expertise in that position to keep his

842
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: eyes where they're needed? And in both cases, at least

843
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: based on the TV replay, his eyes were squaring in

844
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: the backfield when the receiver he's supposed to cover was

845
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: already out in a pattern and got two or three

846
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: steps on him. So what do you do about that?

847
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Do you have to make a significant change in the

848
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: way you're executing the defense down the stretch? Obviously, what

849
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: was interesting, as Cliff Kingsbury made mentioned when asked about

850
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and de Hop together for the first time,

851
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: how productive and viable zach Ertz would have been with

852
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: those two guys. How the middle of the field was

853
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: really open, some of that underneath stuff for a pass

854
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: catching tight end that is supposed to betray McBride, a

855
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: second round pick with great hands. I mean everything you

856
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: see in practice he has very soft hands. He does

857
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: not fight the football. So what happens on game day

858
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: because you just haven't seen that natural pass catching ability

859
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: go from practice to the game. I agree. I mean

860
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: it's been with both those guys. It's been hard. The

861
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Simmons thing is because obviously this is his third year,

862
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: and rightly or wrongly, there is going to be the

863
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: comparisons to what happened to Hassan Reddick and whether you

864
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: need to put him in a different place, I don't know.

865
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean when you talk to Isaiah, the difference there

866
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: to me is that Hassan Reddick was going to do

867
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: what anybody asked him to do, but you could tell

868
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: the whole time he'd rather be rushing the passer. When

869
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons talks, either in public or when you're just

870
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: talking to him, he's doing what he wants to do.

871
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: He's doing what he thinks he's best at. It's just

872
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: he's not executing it. And the coverage stuff was tough.

873
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: It was tough with McBride. It's not fair to him. Well,

874
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it's not fair. There is no fair

875
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: unfair at this point. He's in a position right now

876
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: where he's being asked to be zach Ertz and he's

877
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: not Zach Ertz yet, and he wasn't gonna be zach

878
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Ertz yet, and the hope was he was going to

879
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: have some time to be the second banana with arts

880
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: out there, I think the big reason. And they drafted

881
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: him in the first places because they knew they weren't

882
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: going to get the Max Williams they had last year

883
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: back at any point and they haven't. And so now

884
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: you're having Trey McBride pay sixty snaps and you're forced

885
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: feeding a guy who's not ready to be that guy yet,

886
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: and you hope he can grow and it's going to

887
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: show up on the field, and it's the offensive version

888
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: of what we were just talking about with Isaiah Simmons

889
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: or Zavan Collins last year or whatever. Even my J Sanders, like,

890
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: everybody's like, why isn't my J. Sanders playing more? Now?

891
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: He did play twenty nine snaps, the most he's played

892
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: all season, but why isn't he playing more? Because the

893
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: trust thing? He said it after his big game on

894
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: the road. It was at the Rams where he said, consistency,

895
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I have to show Vance Joseph consistency in Vance confirmed

896
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: that that later, and so you know, coaches get a

897
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: little skittish if you're not going to be in the

898
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. Alignment and assignment. So

899
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, what do you do? What I mean in

900
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: a game where you were minus basically all your other

901
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: viable receiving options. Now, Robbie Anderson had a nice seventeen

902
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: yard catch, right, Okay, but after d hop in Hollywood Brown,

903
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: guess what, there's a huge drop off. There was no

904
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, there was no Greg Dorche as expected. You know,

905
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that thumb injury is going

906
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: to progress. So you really did need that receiving tight end. Now,

907
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Stephen Anderson has got a couple of opportunities and he

908
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: hasn't reeled it in, and so yeah, at lea's a

909
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: void in Cliff Kingsbury's offense. There's no doubt it makes

910
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: it much easier for a defense to scheme against the Cardinals.

911
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about that guy work in

912
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: the scenes. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about that,

913
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: especially early in the year. Kyler Murray saying that Key

914
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't realize what type of security blanket a tight end

915
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: could be until he started playing with Zach Ertz and

916
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I agree there's no fair unfair in this situation. But

917
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: you're asking Trey McBride to be somebody that one he's

918
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: not yet in. Two he wasn't expected to be this.

919
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: This wasn't the role he was expected to be in

920
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: at this point, So it's I don't necessarily see that

921
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: on him as the big drop off. I do think

922
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: it is quite clear to not have zach Ertz as

923
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: a viable option now. The chemistry hasn't been there this

924
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: year quite as much as it was last year when

925
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: he was traded and came in and immediately had that

926
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. I'm just kind of at the point

927
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: where I don't want to say I don't really care,

928
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: but I just don't really care about the excuses, Like

929
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: it just feels like for two years and again, whether

930
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: this is fair or not, all we've been told is

931
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: the injuries. And yes, this team has been riddled with

932
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: injuries and looking at the offensive line, and you didn't

933
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: have Hot for six games and then you had Hollywood out.

934
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: Now Rondo Moore has been out and all these things.

935
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: But it's just like every team is dealing with injuries,

936
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: and you know, so many other teams have receiving cores

937
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: where they don't have a hop or they don't have

938
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: a Hollywood, and they're still finding a way to make

939
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: it work. Now. Is their offensive line looked different. Possibly?

940
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Do they have that tight end that the Cardinals no

941
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: longer have zach ERTs being hurt? Probably, but but teams

942
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: are making it work. And so to me, it's just

943
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: kind of and I don't necessarily mean that as a

944
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: knock on what zach Ertz brings to the table or

945
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: the players that are filling in now. It's just kind

946
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: of like, I don't I'll give you an example. I

947
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: never say something that's probably un PC, so I'm not

948
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead, No, I would. We won't tell anybody.

949
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: It's just it's funny. I think of at the end

950
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: of the two thousand season, when the Cardinals had fired

951
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Vince Toben mid season and they were terrible, and they

952
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: ended up with the number two pick overall the following draft.

953
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: They go to Jacksonville for the next last game of

954
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: the year. Jacksonville was a five hundred team that year,

955
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: so not great, but they weren't bad, and they got

956
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: hot near the end of the season and the Cardinals

957
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: go to Jacksonville and the Jaguars, if I recall correctly,

958
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: had the ball eight for eight possessions. They scored the

959
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: first seven of them, and the eighth possession they got

960
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: the ball with like eight minutes to go and ran

961
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: the entire clock out, going fifty five yards. It was

962
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: not a pretty game. In the locker room afterwards, myself

963
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: and the great Kent Summers walked up to Pat Tillman

964
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: and talked about the season and everything, and Pat was pissed.

965
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: It makes sense, and he goes at some point, he goes,

966
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm just so sick of it. He goes, at some point,

967
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear about the pain. Just show me

968
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: the baby. Now, that's incredibly rude. I understand, and probably

969
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: you know against women, so I, but it's obviously it's

970
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: stuck with me all these times. And obviously what Tillman

971
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: was saying was a more harsh version of what you

972
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: were just saying, which is the excuses are what they are.

973
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: And Pat knew that that team was incredibly undermanned and

974
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: not very good, and he didn't give a crap because

975
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: even if they were going to lose that game, they

976
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't have given up seven scores and never forced a punt.

977
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: Was that the year he said the franchise record for tackles,

978
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: wait for it, two hundred twenty four tackles in a

979
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: single season or was it all one? It was one? Uh?

980
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: With the following year his last year with the team.

981
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I think it was his last year with the team.

982
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: And uh. Although with all due respect to Pad, I

983
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: hope he takes this the right way. I was looking back, Um,

984
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: the statisticians in those days were a little bit more

985
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: free wheeling with the tackles because the tackle records there

986
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: is no official tackle records for the NFL. They take

987
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: what the statisticians do and they tie. There is nothing

988
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: official because it's it's subjective. I was looking, we're doing

989
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: a folk tales on the Kwamie last or four interception

990
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: game that got them into the ninety eight playoffs, And

991
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: I was looking at the defensive stats that day, and

992
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: they had like six guys with at least ten tackles,

993
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: and they had like eighty some tackles as a team,

994
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: And I'm I say, yeah, and the opponent ran sixty

995
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: two plays? Yes, yeah, okay, so okay, fishy, fishy, Pat

996
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Timber was a great player. Yeah, I still am not

997
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: sure those were all. Hey wow, that you gave seven

998
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: different players and assist on that. That's amazing. You know

999
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: what that is? That teamwork. That's FTX accounting. That's what

1000
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: that is. That's the bitcoin accounting right there, FTX crypto.

1001
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: There you go, Danny, I didn't work it in. No

1002
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: longer is it Enron accounting. It's now FTX and cryptocurrency accounting.

1003
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: So that's that's the more modern day. That's the more

1004
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: modern day. Oh my goodness, as I try to remember

1005
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: which direction, oh here was the status there? But I

1006
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: had a chance to tell a Pat Timban story down

1007
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: the stretch we come here, okay. And and by the

1008
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: way I got I got ripped as I should have

1009
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: off the top of the broadcast Cardinals and Chargers there

1010
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: in week eleven was a week twelve, And so I said,

1011
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: you know what, um, Kyle Vannimbosch is on this broadcast.

1012
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: Bertram Berry on this broadcast, drew standing on this broadcast.

1013
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: I'll played more than decade in the NFL. You realize, guys,

1014
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I played four years for the Chargers, the Leland Chargers.

1015
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: That was my high school in South San Jose, and

1016
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: then I took a beat down when I actually brought

1017
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: up the alma mater of Pat Tillman, and they said,

1018
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: don't you even dare drop your name anywhere near Pat

1019
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Tillman in a football field or otherwise. So okay, I

1020
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: wore that, and I move on to the stat I

1021
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: was going to bring up originally. Maybe we can edit

1022
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: that out later. I'd appreciate that you realize that going

1023
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: into the Mexico City Monday night game, Kyle shannon career

1024
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: win loss record is forty. Niners head coach was five hundred.

1025
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: Because it's been either feast or famine. It's been either

1026
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: we're making a run to the NFC Championship Game and beyond,

1027
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: or we've got four hundred injuries and we just finished

1028
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: a six win season. And so it's remarkable, at least

1029
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: to me, for all the town and all the success

1030
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: they supposedly have had, that he went over five hundred.

1031
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: His career coaching record was Niners head coach. With that

1032
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: win over the Cardinals in Mexico City, it's whatever that's worth.

1033
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Even the great Kyle Shanni and can't navigate past all

1034
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: those injuries. I guess is the lesson right now, look

1035
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: at McVeigh right now, people are like, oh, I shouldn't

1036
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: call plays. That has nothing to do with it, Like

1037
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: mcveigh's lost the ability to call plays. Come on again

1038
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: and I got mail back. Question this week was about

1039
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: again the injuries and how do the Cardinals have so many?

1040
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Like a lot of teams have a lot of injuries,

1041
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of the teams that have a lot

1042
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: of injuries are in trouble, like the Rams. It's not

1043
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: just this team. And if the forty nine ers had

1044
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: not miraculously somehow not gotten rid of Jimmy G, they'd

1045
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: be in a bad place. Right you are not all

1046
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: due respect to brock Purty, yep. And you know what,

1047
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked. And I don't really do

1048
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: not expect to say this or see this here in

1049
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, But as I was watching that second

1050
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: half against the forty nine ers, I said to myself,

1051
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: if this offensive line holds up and they can keep

1052
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: Jimmy G cleaned the rest of the year, A team

1053
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: that really should have gone to the Super Bowl last

1054
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: year if it wasn't for Jaquaski Tart dropping that that

1055
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: flyball in center field that would have sealed to win

1056
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. This team very much can

1057
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl champion with Jimmy G who, by

1058
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: the way, has won four of his six playoff games. Now,

1059
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: he hasn't been great in a couple of the games

1060
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: that really counted, the Super Bowl and last year's NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I get their willingness and want to

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: and trying to upgrade you to a more dynamic dual

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: threat quarterback. I get it. But looking the way that

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00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: team is currently constructed, was so many weapons. Never did

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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: you think you would say in this day and age

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00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: of NFL football that a game manager could win a

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00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl like Trent Dilford did once upon a time,

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Speaker 1: like Brad What was a Brad Johnson did with the box?

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00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: When you just have an elite defense. So if the

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00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: Niners continue to have that defense and all those weapons

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: on offense, and they still have Trent Williams anchoring that

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00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: offensive line, hello, I can't wait for our underground in

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00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: mid January or we're debating whether the forty nine ers

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00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: are going to franchise Jimmy G. Unbelievable and look not

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: not to take away I'm sitting here thinking about it.

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00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: I know you don't believe in jinxes, but knock on wood,

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00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: I believe the only offensive starter who has not missed

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00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: a game has been right tackle Kevin Beecham. Correct, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: That obviously does not make life easy for this team

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00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: and for the coaching staff. And so I don't want

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00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: to me going on all of us going on this

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00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: right now about injuries and saying enough is enough. I

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00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: don't want to take away that that was just me.

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00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to take away that. You know, life

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00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: is just as easy when you're in that situation as

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00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: opposed to having all of your starters. My point being

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00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: that teams have to find a way to get it done.

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00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: And when you have enough skill players that are at

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: the top of their position group, when you have a

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray who is one of the one of the

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00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in the league in DeAndre Hopkins and Hollywood Brown,

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00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: and I know that James Connor is it might not be.

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00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's not might be. He's not a Derek Henry,

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00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: he's not a Christian McCaffrey, but he is still a

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00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: bulldozing running back. You just you have enough talented players

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00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: and they're just still not finding a way to get

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00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: it done. I agree with that, and ultimately I knock

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: on wood for Calvin beachump part we're gonna for this sake. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I do think I think part of the problem, and

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Speaker 1: part of the way people look at it too, is

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00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: the guys that have been out there mostly. I know

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Speaker 1: Kyler miss a couple of games, but I mean Hot

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: missing six games for whatever he says ultimately is something

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: of his own doing. That's frustrating. To have Kyler not

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00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: play at a higher level is frustrating, even if with

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00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: all the injuries. And I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: So let's see here, two home games left New England

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00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: coming up that is next week fourteen Monday night, then

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00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: Tampa at home Christmas Night. So many national televised games

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00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: to go, and then you have road trips to Denver.

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00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: No snow plays Atlanta, they'll be snow baby. And well,

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00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: wait a minute, remember when the when the Cardinals against

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00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: the Broncos for Peyton Manning back in the day, and

1114
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: all those stats remember although no, but all those stats

1115
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: they busted out and recruiting Payton Manning. Oh geezing, never

1116
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: snows in Denver on game day. It's only snowed on

1117
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: like six point of the game, are right, And that's

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: the way this season has gone. So Atlanta and then

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers is the season finale. We're by

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Speaker 1: the way the Cardinal's own Levi's. I'm have this marked

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00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: down as another home game, but let me put this

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00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: in the home game slot because the Cardinals won six

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Speaker 1: of eight all time at Levi's. So as Darren Grimace

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Speaker 1: is over there, shy knock on would buy product over

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Speaker 1: here in my coffee muggets. I'll do that, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I'll do that over here and that's good, all right.

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Speaker 1: Anything else, nobody's gonna mention the two words Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: We're not getting into that or anything. Can I just

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: throw out there real quick? I had a quick research

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Speaker 1: on this. There's going to be compensation for anybody who

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00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: hires Sean Payton. Yes, how much? Because Bell bellcheck back

1132
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: in the day when he went from the Jets to

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Speaker 1: in England. It was around one when Parcels went from

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00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: New England to the Jets. It was a first, second, third,

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Speaker 1: and fourth and then the mother of all coaching trades,

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00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Al Davis for John Gruden in his prime to Tampa

1137
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: got two first rounders, two second rounders, and eight million

1138
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: in cash. So there's Al Davis. I mean, are you

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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: saying that Sean Payton, wherever he goes, the team that

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Speaker 1: hires him as their next head coach is given up

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: a round one pick. I don't know if you're gonna

1142
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: have much of a choice. And again, as long as

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00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: we're on this subject, that's a non starter for me.

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00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: By the way, thanks for asking. Absolutely no way, because

1145
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: that's the one competitive advantage you have in your own division.

1146
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Rams don't have a first round pick. Niners don't have

1147
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I tend to feel the same way.

1148
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: Plus the money it would cost to pay him. And look,

1149
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: we have a lot of questions. People are still asking

1150
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: the questions. I'm just gonna leave it with the same

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: thing I said in the mail bag. Five games left.

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00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: I think it's the entire season is going to be

1153
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: what is evaluated, and we're not through the entire season,

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00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: so let's see what happens first. Same for you, Paul,

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Speaker 1: So keep up the good work, all right? Like that, Danny,

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00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: So you just said same that was your answer? Same

1157
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: or same? For me, same for you. For you, we're

1158
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: waiting to evaluate the entire season, so don't take your

1159
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: foot off the gas now, well he can take it

1160
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: this week. It's oh, sure you can relax originven eight.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could stink and Wolf wrope me into

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Speaker 1: his own show. So you know, I'm just gonna take

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take all my animosity out on Wolf the

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: rest of this review. I's gonna relax all week I

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00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: know Darren's not going to relax all weekend. I feel

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: bad for day Pass. Everybody a moment of silence or

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: day Pass who actually got fat chained by Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: You know, you what, you know you've hit rock bottom

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00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: when Wolf looks at you on the pregame show on

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Speaker 1: the air and makes a comment about your gut. And

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: so you know that was tough. It was tough for Dave.

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, Dave was Dave fruit plate pash.

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: Now he's into this intermittent starvation or intermittent fasting, whatever

1174
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: they call you say, that's what all the kids are doing.

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00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. And because there was Pash at lunch

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: in the press box and he had more on his

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00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: plate than Ron Wolfley, and that was a first and

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of jarring, and I said, do we

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: need to talk? You know, Dave, are you okay here?

1180
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: What's going on? You have more on your plate than

1181
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: wolf what's going on here? And he said, this is

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: the only time I'm gonna eat all day, and maybe

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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: the only time I eat for like thirty six hours,

1184
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: because he's doing this intermittent fasting, which doesn't sound healthy

1185
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: to me. A lot of other things, I'm not a nutritionist. Oh,

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00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where that's a little loopy. You just

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00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: hit it wrong. You know, it's all right, Danny. You

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00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: know when when you're you know, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to go and stay at a holiday and

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Speaker 1: express No, I don't know how it goes in the

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00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: girls room where you where you're seated, but you know

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: with guys, with guys, it's perfectly permissible to just talk about,

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, abject weight gain. So that's all. It was,

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Speaker 1: just that delivery of you saying, among other things, I'm

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: not an nutritionist, and I don't know why it just

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that the whole thing you gotta get on?

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Speaker 1: You work in the girls room upstairs, you myself are

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: female videographer and our female photographer, because we don't want

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Speaker 1: people think about I don't working to bathroom. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we all need a break, by the way. No, this

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Speaker 1: is a bonus. This is a bonus piece of content

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Speaker 1: for Craig Griolo. At this point, Mexico City, the hotel,

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Speaker 1: there's a restaurant and I walked down there to use

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Speaker 1: the restroom and there's an M and there's an H

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: and I had the door open, partially opened into M.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It took me a moment, though. It took

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Speaker 1: me a moment when I whoa wait a minute, hang on,

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Speaker 1: guess what about a half hour later, Wolf went down

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Speaker 1: there and he goes, there's three guys in the M restroom.

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Speaker 1: So there were a bunch of Americans making that mistake

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Speaker 1: in the teams an ugly country. There were guys in

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Speaker 1: the ladies restroom because they saw M and they probably

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Speaker 1: had a few drinks at that point in the night,

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Speaker 1: and boom, they ran right in there. And that's why

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Speaker 1: you need pictures. Gotta have pictures. Uh. Note to self, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, be a little more aware of some more

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Speaker 1: awareness when you're going international, don't they a star Albanno. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hashtag no compreendo and that'll do it for this edition

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