1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm just about that Action Boss. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, presented by bet MGM. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: This is our NFL Draft Grades AFC edition. I'm your host, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: Chris Raybond of The Action Network, and we're joined once 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: again by longtime friend of the podcast, or as he 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: likes to put it, ex girlfriend of the podcast, but 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: not not angry ex girlfriend, just just a very ambicable 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: split ex girlfriend, Matthew Friedman of Fantasy Life Matt great 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: stuff on our NFC episode Welcome back. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to be here. And I would say, 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: like the dynamic is like we dated in college. We 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: were probably like better as friends then as like an 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: actual couple, and then like we just kind of went 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: our separate ways, you know, like you went to New York, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: I went to California. But we're like still friendly and 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: whenever we're in the same place, we hang each other 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: and or we hang out and it's all good. 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: You know, yes, exactly, And I do want to because 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: we on the NFC episode, we were trying to figure 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: out you know, we were talking about the Niners and 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: we're trying to figure out who was there running back 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: as they drafted that just nothing ever happened with And 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: I said, Jay Williams, who is doesn't exist? That's a 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: basketball player. But I was on the right track. It's 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: Joe Williams. I just wanted to close that loop. But 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: that was that. That was something we were trying to 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: figure out on the On the last episode, we're going 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 3: to dive into the AFC, go team by team here 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: and get Matthew's grades on those. Did a great job 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: breaking down the NFC, so check that out if you 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: haven't already. But before we dive in, I just want 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: to get your thoughts, matt biggest surprise overall in the 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: AFC or any just big picture thought on on the 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: AFC and and these teams in the draft. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the AFC, I would say, you know, 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: thinking about the quarterback, like what was going to happen 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: at number three? You know, was it going to be 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Drake May, was it going to be Jada Daniels who 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: ended up falling out? And then you know, were the 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Raiders going to be able to get a quarterback at 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: number thirteen? And so like quarterback not as important for 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: the AFC just in terms of the players who were available, 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: but like that was still going to be like hugely 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: important for these teams and then would dictate how a 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: lot of the draft came after that. But you know, 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: for the most part, you had the teams that have 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: a history of doing intelligent things continuing to do those things, 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: and then the teams that have a history of shooting 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: themselves in the foot continuing to injure themselves. So I 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: think a lot went kind of according to how you 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: would imagine it would for the AFC. 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Who was it that, now, now you made me think 55 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: of shooting guys in the foot? You made me think 56 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: was it Stevie Johnson that did that celebration where he 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: pretended to shoot himself in the foot? Remember that Bills 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: receiver Afterquaxico? Yeah, I think it was. 59 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: I think that was Stevie Johnson. 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: He did it in a Jets game when Flax was 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: on the Jets. Yeah. Man, But we'll get to the 62 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: AFC East in a second. I know that was a 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: good segue. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: But we're gonna we're starting the South just like we 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: did on the last pod, uh. 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: With the NFC. 67 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: And you know, Jacksonville is a team that that you 68 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 3: have circled here, uh, that that you really want to 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: talk about. You know, they started the draft with Brian 70 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, a wide out at an LSU. You know, 71 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: I can't get not teams for targeting these LSU wide 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: outs given given recent developments. Uh, but they're also another 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: one of these teams, you know, just like the Rams 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: we talked about the last pod who you know, they 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: they seem to be really dialed in on a certain 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: school and that school was LSU. You know, their first 77 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: two picks they go Mason Smith out of LSU as well, 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: and then get Jordan Jefferson, a DT out of LSU 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: later in the draft. So the LSU Jags connection was strong. 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: What do you think? 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: So I don't hate how some of this draft went 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: for the Jacks, but I'll just say, like Trent, Trent Balky, 83 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, like this guy. Look sometimes people far okay, 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: oh man, this is not everyone drafts Trayvon Walker number 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: one overall, you know what I mean? Like that is 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: like a sign of like this guy overreaching. And he 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: continued to do that in a lot of this draft. 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: Now in round one I do like what he did, 89 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, trading down from number seventeen to number twenty three, 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: picking up extra draft capital and still drafting Brian Thomas, 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: who you know, some people mocked to the Jags at 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: number seventeen, So I think, like that was good process, 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: good value, nothing wrong there, you know. I will say though, 94 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: like if you're going to pay Gabe Davis money in 95 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: the off season, I kind of don't know why you're 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: drafting Brian Thomas now because it's not as if they're 97 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: like exactly like one for one, but like they're sort 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: of like both big bodied, downfilled type of receivers. Like 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: there's a mistake somewhere in the process, but like on 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: his own Brian Thomas first round or fine after that, 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: there there were a lot of reaches in here, and 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: they weren't like borderline reaches. This was like you are 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: routinely drafting this guy thirty spots higher than where you 104 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: find him on consensus boards, and like maybe sometimes you 105 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: do that just because like positional value, positional scarcity, whatever 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: it is. But if you do that routinely, pick after pick, 107 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: draft after draft, like that shows that you have a problem. 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: And outside of what the Jags did in the first round, 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: they reveiled themselves just to have very little sense of 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: positional value, and like draft board consensus value throughout this process. 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: So I like what they did in the first round, 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: don't like what they did after that. I would say 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: this is this is a C plus. 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: The way I look at it with you know, you 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: mentioned valky and and the Jags, and the way I 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: look at it is, you drafted Trevor Lawrence, you know, 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: a few years ago now, and you know since then, 119 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: you know, Houston has drafted their quarterback after you, Indianapolis 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: has drafted their quarterback after you. I feel like all 121 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: those teams are too. They have drawn even or even 122 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: surpassed the Jaguars, and that shouldn't be the case because 123 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: you already had you had your head start with your 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback, and that does speak to some of those 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: whiffs in the draft. 126 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Michael Walker. 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this is I'm skeptical of this 128 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: draft as well, because I just think the Jags should 129 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: have been so far ahead of this division, given the 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: strength of it by now, but they're still kind of 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: middling and fighting off the the Texans and the and 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts. Uh. Speaking of the Houston Texans, you know, 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: we talked on the last pot about you know it 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: worked out for them last year, making that trade back 135 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: up to get Will Anderson three after getting Stroud at 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: number two. This year, you know, nothing, nothing in the 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: first round. They go to second and get last year 138 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: the corner out of Georgia. 139 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think that was a need pick. 140 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: And then Blake Fisher, a tackle out of note your name, 141 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: They get him late in the second round tackle. So 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: you know, made some picks at positions of need early 143 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: in the draft. What do you think of the Houston 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Texans draft? A lot of picks on Day three for them. 145 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of picks on Day three. Remember that 146 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: they traded out of the first round and so you know, 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: got an extra second round or there which they turned 148 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: into Stefan Diggs. They also traded for Joe Mixon. I 149 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: believe it was like a sixth seventh round pick for 150 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. So those guys kind of factor into this 151 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: a little bit. I think, you know, being able to 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: get Stefan Diggs really just add some extra juice to 153 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: what was already I think a really good wide receiver 154 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: group anyway, and so thinking of Stefon Diggs as a 155 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: part of this draft class, Uh, you know, Kimary Lasser fine, 156 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: like as a cornerback that you're adding in the second 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: round before he really disappointed at the combine with his speed. 158 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 2: Uh there was hype of him as a potential first rounder. 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: Uh you know Blake Fisher offensive tackle out a Notre Dame. 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: Like nothing wrong with him at all. So like these 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: are guys who maybe end up starting for them, but 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: like it's not as certainty that either of those guys 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: will start for them. Uh. So, like it's it's an 164 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: okay draft class considering you didn't have a first rounder, 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: but like you're not walking away with certain starters. I 166 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: would say that this is a. 167 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: C Yeah, I will say though, you know, I do 168 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: like the coaching staff for Houston, and I feel like, 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, they did draft a few defender. 170 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Defenders sprinkled through the draft. 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: I feel like one or two of those guys, you're 172 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: probably gonna get more out of them than than you 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: thought coming into the draft, just because I think they're 174 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: they're so well coached. They had a lot of guys 175 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: last year that who just played above their heads that 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have really coming into the season, you wouldn't 177 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: really guess so excited to. 178 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: See But I love Houston. I think I just love 179 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: what Uston's been doing. 180 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: Uh and I think they they're putting themselves in position 181 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: to chop, you know, to enter that AFC gauntlet with 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: the you know, the mahomes Is and the Burroughs and 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: of the world and the Josh Allen. So I do 184 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: like what Uston's done in totality, and I do expect, 185 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: you know, some of these more nondescript guys at least 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: wanted to pop. 187 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 188 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, what about the Colts. So the Coats, 189 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: you know, last year, obviously they add what they hope 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: to be their franchise quarterback in Anthony Richardson's. This year, 191 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: they're picking in the middle of the first they get 192 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: a lot to the edge out of U. C. L A. 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: They got Donne Mitchell, who fell in the second round. 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: So a lot of people will look at that and 195 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: say that's the value. So I'm curious to what you 196 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: think of Mitchell kind of sliding down to them in 197 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: the second round. 198 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: And they're draft in general. 199 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: I like it, but they didn't get a whole lot 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: of starters like they got Layatu Latu, and I think 201 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: good value at getting him at number fifteen as the 202 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: first edge off of the board, and then add an 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: I Mitchell, who he will start for them, and he 204 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: is probably better than Alec Pierce, but I would say 205 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: like he's just kind of another version of Alec Pierce. Again, 206 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: probably better, but kind of similar role that he will 207 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: play within that offense. But then like after that, there 208 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: are no guys that you can look at and say like, yeah, 209 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: this guy has a really good chance of starting at 210 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: some point. Like, I think they did an okay job 211 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: of addressing need. You know, in the third and fourth 212 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: round they hit the interior of the offensive line multiple times. 213 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: In the fifth rounder, a fifth and sixth round drafted 214 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: three defensive backs, you know, Like I think they did 215 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: a decent job of saying, hey, this is a position 216 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: of need. We're going to try to address it, not 217 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: just once because we might get it wrong, Like we're 218 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: going to get multiple players that we like. So I 219 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: think that's fine. And they didn't they didn't reach and 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, ad an I Mitchell, they did get him 221 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: at a place of value. So I feel like, nothing 222 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: really wrong with this draft, nothing great with it. I 223 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: will give it a B. 224 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: All right. 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: The Titans are the final team we got to talk 226 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: about here in the AFC South, they start out with 227 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: JC Latham at seven overall offensive tackle. You know, some 228 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: people thought maybe they should have gone a different direction there. 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: They get to Andre Sweat out of Texas at a 230 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: DT in the second round, and then no more picks 231 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: until day three. 232 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: What did you think of Tennessee's draft. 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm not that hot on it. Latham was a late 234 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: riser in the process, and so you know there's you know, 235 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: kind of some speculation like he, okay, he wasn't as 236 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: good as Joe Walt, was he significantly better then the 237 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: three or four offensive tackles who went after him? And 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: I guess obviously the Titans thought yes. There was some 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: speculation that maybe even the Chargers thought yes, But like, 240 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really the case. You know, 241 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: like for a lot of the process, all of those 242 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: guys were just in one big group together. So anytime 243 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: you're the first team like taking a guy at the 244 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: very top of a tier, you're probably not maximizing value. 245 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: And you know, you did that with the number seven 246 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: pick overall. So just in terms of process, probably not great. 247 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: And then drafting to and Andre Sweat again in the 248 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: second round there you were kind of at the top 249 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: of a defensive tackle run. And so again I would say, 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: like you're not really maximizing value with that pick, and 251 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: that doesn't even address like the issues of Sweat, where 252 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: like there are weight concerns with him, like can he 253 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: maintain his weight, and then like off the field concerns. 254 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: He had a DUI not all that long ago, and 255 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: there was the expectation that that would hurt him throughout 256 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: the the draft process. So like you reached for Sweat, 257 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: not just that you took him as the top defensive 258 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: tackle in this run, but on the consensus big boards, 259 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: he wasn't expected to go nearly this high. So like, 260 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: and I don't think Sweat is a bad player, but 261 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: like they're just significant like concerns and like value concerns 262 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: with him. And then you didn't have a third rounder, 263 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think anything you did on Day three 264 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: was really like moving the needle. So like I didn't 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: write this up as like one of the losers in here, 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: but like I do not like this draft. Like I 267 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: like a couple of your players, but I don't really 268 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: like the process. I feel like you could have gotten 269 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: more I'm gonna give this like a C minus. 270 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tennessee as a team, you know, just from 271 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: a high level, have being kind of involved in some 272 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: questionable process decisions, you know, going back to I feel 273 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: like it was kind of a reactionary thing fire in 274 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: the GM after they get burned by A. J. Brown 275 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: last year and then the eleco of Rabel and I 276 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: don't know, that seemed like a curious choice as well. 277 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: And you know, so who knows not Now the draft 278 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: looks a little shaky, So we'll see what happens with Tennessee. 279 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: But they seem to be trending downward as a franchise 280 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: compared to where they were, you know, a couple of 281 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: years ago. 282 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: The Action Network podcast is presented by Bett MGM used 283 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: the bonus code action when signing up to get one 284 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets when you bet 285 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: just five dollars. 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They of course, go with Fatanau out 293 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: of Washington in round one, and then they address they 294 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: keep addressing offensive line with Zach Frazier out of West 295 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: Virginia in round two and Roman Wilson, a wide out 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: out of Michigan. You know, always always kind of raised 297 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: my eyebrows when Pittsburgh kicks a wide receiver, you know, 298 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: on day two or early in day three, because they 299 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: seem to always find some good value there. 300 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: So where'd you think of the Steelers draft this year? 301 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked it. I mean drafts tend to 302 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: be made on what you do in the first top 303 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: one hundred picks, and I think the Steelers really nailed 304 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: it here. Troy fai Utanu out of Washington. There was 305 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: a possibility that he could have gone, you know, number fourteen, 306 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: number sixteen. I think getting him at twenty there's good 307 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: value there. He adds great positional versatility, you know, some 308 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: scouts were talking about how he was like a true 309 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: five player, just like he could play all five positions 310 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: across the board. The biggest need entering the draft looking 311 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: at the offensive line for the Steelers was its center. 312 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: And there were some conversations that perhaps they had drafted 313 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Futanu to be their starting center, and they said, like, no, 314 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: we think of him as a tackle. And then on 315 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: day two they drafted Zach Frazier, who is one of 316 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: the top centers in the class. So absolutely nailed it 317 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: on retooling the offensive line and getting both of those 318 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: guys at positions of value. And then Roman Wilson on 319 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: day three they also got him falling down the board, 320 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: and I think he's a perfect replacement for Deontay Johnson 321 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: within that offense as a compliment to Pickens. And then 322 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, for years they have been looking for an 323 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: off ball linebacker and Peyton Wilson has a ton of 324 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: potential here injury concerns, the guy is missing an ACLU, 325 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: but you're getting him at pick ninety eight, Like at 326 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: that point, it's fine. The injury concern is baked in, 327 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: and if you get four good years of this guy 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: as like, you know your general in the middle of 329 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: the defense there, then you can live with that even 330 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: if you don't sign him to a second contract. So 331 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: absolutely love what they did with all four of those guys, 332 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: them falling down the board, so potentially getting some value 333 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: and definitely addressing positions of need. I mean, I don't know, man, 334 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like this is an A plus, 335 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: but this is a solid A. 336 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: Is it enough to get the Steelers out of, you know, 337 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: out of their perpetual purgatory? I guess that still probably 338 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: depends on what happens with the quarterback situation. 339 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, we've been way. 340 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: It seems like every year there they're in this purgatory, 341 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: but they're always a little better than we expect. But 342 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 3: this was This was a good draft for though I 343 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: totally agree. A more polarizing draft I think with the 344 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. I've seen you know, grades all over the 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: place for them. Some people liked it, some people didn't. 346 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: You seem to like it, you know. They start out 347 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: with Georgia offensive tackle Marius Mims at eighteen. Overall, they 348 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: get Chris Jenkins a dtata Michigan in the second round, 349 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: wide receiver Jermaine Burton at Obama at eightieth overall, McKinley Jackson, 350 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: a big nose tackle at you know, in the top 351 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: one hundred as well for them out at A and M. 352 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: What did you think of the Bengals here? 353 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: All Right? So I will say transparently that there were 354 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: some reaches. If you're just kind of looking at where 355 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: guys were drafted, where they were ranked on the consensus board, 356 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: there are definitely some reaches that said, I still do 357 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: like what they did with their draft. Amarius Mims at 358 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: number eighteen, like that generally fits the draft range, and 359 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: like that dude is a mauler. Like he's probably not 360 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: going to start for them right away, although there's a 361 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: chance they could kick him inside to guard. But whenever 362 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: he does start, like that guy is going to be 363 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: a beast. He started only eight games for Georgia, but 364 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: like when he was on the field, he was absolutely dominant. 365 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: So Trenton Brown is signed for just a one year contract. 366 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: Amarius Mems is a perfect guy who could just be 367 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: there your longtime right tackle on the corner, you know, 368 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: starting in the second year, and honestly maybe as early 369 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: as this year. And then Chris Jenkins, he had gotten 370 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: some hype as a potential first rounder. I think getting him, 371 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, to to sort of mend what is a 372 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: wounded interior of your defense on the line there. I 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: think that's good value at forty nine in the second round. 374 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton. I like him as a guy who has 375 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: the potential to play in the slot right away or 376 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, maybe you're putting Jamar Chase in there a 377 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: little bit more, but a guy who can be in 378 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: three wide receiver sets right away and who can possibly 379 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: be the number two if and when they lose T 380 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: Higgins in free agency next year. So I like getting 381 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: him in the third round a high upside player, and 382 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: then also in the third round going back to defensive tackle, 383 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: you know, kind of double dipping there with Chris Jenkins, 384 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: just to really try to be sure to solidify that position, 385 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: and then in the fourth round getting Eric All. Like 386 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to say there's any such thing as 387 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: like a cheat code when you're drafting, but like, look, 388 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: if there's an athletic tight end coming out of Iowa, 389 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: maybe draft him, like, especially if you're not needing to 390 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: do it in the top hundred picks, Like, maybe just 391 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: draft him and see what happens, like Iowa is a 392 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: finishing school for tight ends who want to go into 393 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: the NFL. Like these guys just come out as pros. 394 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: So you know, big Athletic has some YAK potential, Like 395 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: there's the possibility that Eric All turns into like the 396 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: tight end that It feels like the Bengals have been 397 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: searching for for years to put next to Joe Burrow. 398 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: So you put all of those guys together, and then 399 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, maybe there were some reaches here or there, 400 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: and then I don't really think anything they did on 401 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: like rounds five through seven is that special. But I 402 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: really do like that the players that they selected and 403 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: how those guys will fit into their team. I like 404 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: all of that for the Bengals. So you know, with 405 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: the reaches, I can't give them an A, but this 406 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: feels like an A minus. 407 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can afford to do that a little 408 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: more when you have you know, you already you have 409 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, you have Jamar Chase, so you kind of 410 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: have the core of your team set. See, I didn't 411 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: I didn't hate the Bengals draft either. The Ravens. You know, 412 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: every year it seems like we're talking about them having 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: one of the best drafts. I think they got some 414 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: good value, especially considering they're always drafting pretty late. They 415 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: go with Nate Wiggins, the Clemson dB at thirtieth overall, 416 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: they get Rose Garden at sixty two, tackle out of Washington, 417 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: Isaac linebacker out of Penn State they get at number 418 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: ninety three, So there seems to be getting some value 419 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: and filling some needs. Deonte's war at one thirteen A 420 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: in North Carolina. Where'd you think of Baltimore's draft this year? 421 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rose and Garden pick in the second round, 422 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: absolutely loved because this offseason they lost both of their 423 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: starting guards and they traded away their starting right tackle. 424 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: So Rosengarden coming out of Washington, he started on the 425 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: left side and then kicked over to the right side 426 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: when they got Pinnix. So he's got versatility in terms 427 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: of like the line and the side that he can 428 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: play on. But he's already got that experience playing right tackle. 429 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: And you know, there was some idea, like a little 430 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: bit of hype of like mel Kiper really liked him, 431 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: like saying he could get into the first round. Like 432 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that was ever going to happen. But 433 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: Rosengarden in the second round. You know, like he was 434 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: the blind side protector to Pennix on the Joe Moore 435 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Award winning offensive line last year. Like as great as 436 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: fai Utanu was, Rose Garden was actually maybe the better 437 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: offensive lineman for Washington last year. So getting him in 438 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the second round I think was outstanding value for them. 439 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: And then Nate Wigans he fell down the board a 440 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: little bit, you know, so addressed a position of need 441 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: at cornerback in the first round, and then Ted Walker 442 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: the wide receiver out of UNC in the fourth round. 443 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: You know, a little bit of a divisive prospect, but 444 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: you know, a ton of potential. And I mean it's amazing. 445 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Even though the Ravens in the entirety of the Lamar 446 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: Jackson era, like they've drafted one tight end in the 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: first round, They've drafted three wide receivers in the first round, 448 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: and they also drafted Mark Andrews. It feels like they 449 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: still always need more pass catchers. So you know, adding 450 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: tes Walker in the fourth round, he has some potential there. 451 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: So I like what they did. And then they just 452 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: got a lot of these guys at value while still 453 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: addressing positions of need. TJ. Tampa at pick one thirty, 454 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: the cornerback out of Iowa State. He fell down the 455 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: a lot and so maybe that just means he's not 456 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: as good as you know, draftnicks thought he would be. 457 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: But you know, there's the possibility that you know, he 458 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: fell too far and the Ravens are getting some value there. 459 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: And I liked it again, doubling up on you know, 460 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins, the first rounder that they had at corner, 461 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: you know, doubling up on that position, addressing a position 462 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: of need, you know, just sort of like classic Baltimore 463 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: Ravens draft. I would give this an A. 464 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't reach, they tend to always get value, 465 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: and they tend to still fill their positions of need 466 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, I like the draft for Baltimore Cleveland. 467 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 3: I mean they didn't you know, they were missing some 468 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: picks still from that Deshaun Watson trade. So their first 469 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: pick isn't till fifty four overall. They get Michael Hall 470 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: Junior DT out of Ohio State. Then they go, you 471 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: know the other side of the rivalry, get Zach Zenter 472 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: guard out of Michigan at eighty fifth overall, and then 473 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: they don't pick again to number one fifty six, They 474 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: go Jamari Thrash, the wide out out of Louisville. So 475 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: what did you think of Cleveland's draft? Keeping in mind that, 476 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: you know, some of that some of the picks that 477 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: they would have had were kind of sent away that 478 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: Watson deal. 479 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and they also traded for Jerry Judy Judy well, 480 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 2: and so you know, that kind of gets taken into account. 481 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't really like the Judy trade, 482 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: especially when they gave him the contract after that. Obviously, 483 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: the Deshaun Watson trade in retrospect doesn't look like a winner. 484 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: But you know, thinking about the players that they added, now, 485 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: I like defensive tackle Michael Hall out of Ohio State. 486 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: He didn't get a lot of sack production, but he 487 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: was really still good pressuring pressuring the quarterback, and so 488 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, just adding another big body there to the 489 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: interior of a pretty stout defense already I think was 490 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: a good move. And then Zach Zenter like he has 491 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: the potential to maybe eventually be a starter on that 492 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: offensive line for them. But then, you know, other than that, 493 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: nothing really special that they did. I mean, this is 494 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 2: like a C A C minus. I'm giving it a 495 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: C minus because because I'm going to take the Jerry 496 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: Judy trade and signing and the Deshaun Watson trade into 497 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: account here, this is a C minus. 498 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think. 499 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: I mean their their fate is going to be determined 500 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 3: by ultimately, you know how if Watson can can get back, right, 501 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 3: I think that that then they're they're in great shape. 502 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: If not not so much. 503 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: Uh, let's go to the AC East and we'll start 504 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: with the New England Patriots. They were picking number three. 505 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: They get Drake May, quarterback out of North Carolina, and 506 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: then in the second round they go wide receiver. Now, 507 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: this is not the Belichick era anymore. 508 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: So maybe they'll have better luck. But you know, jaywen Polk, 509 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: that was kind of a polarizing pick. 510 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: Uh. They do take Javon Baker at a u CF, 511 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: another wide out waiter in the draft, and in between 512 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: they draft they address offensive line. So their first five 513 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: picks all offense, which I think made a lot of 514 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: sense when you consider what their offense was doing these 515 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: last few years. But what did you think of New 516 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: England's draft, the first draft of the post Belichick era. 517 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Patriots are low key losers. And 518 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: I just want to start by saying, like the Patriots 519 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: are so incredibly lucky that they had the number three 520 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: pick this year versus some other years, because they still 521 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: at least had a shot of getting a really good 522 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: quarterback prospect in this class. Other years would be like, 523 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: you know what, there are really only two quarterbacks the 524 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: teams want, and we're not going to be able to 525 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: get them like Drake May in another season. Let's say, 526 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: like he were in the draft next year, he could 527 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: really easily be the number one overall pick. So getting 528 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 2: Drake May at number three, like you lucked into that 529 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: total home run in my opinion. So like there's only 530 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: so big of a loser that you can be given 531 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: that situation. But like you lucked into that, And then 532 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: what you did with the rest of the draft, I 533 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: don't want to say it was inexcusable, but like you 534 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: were routinely reaching at every pick, and so, yeah, you 535 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: needed a wide receiver. It makes sense that you got 536 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: one in the second round and fourth round, but you 537 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: took Polk probably twenty to thirty spots too high. Yeah, 538 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: you needed some help at tackle at guard. Good thing 539 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: you took two guys in the third and fourth round, 540 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: but you took those guys higher than you needed to. 541 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: And you know, i'd even say, like Florida State tight 542 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: end jaheem Bell, I love that pick in the seventh round. 543 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: But I mean we're talking about like a guy who's 544 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: at best your number three tight end at this point, 545 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: getting Joe Milton as a you know, potential like developmental 546 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: quarterback behind Drake May, Like fine, the dude has like 547 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: an unreal arm, like, you know, fine, whatever, but you 548 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: got Drake May and then you really kind of grewed 549 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: up after that, so B minus. 550 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I mean it's tough, and it's a 551 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: lot if it's just going to depend on on Drake 552 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: May and how he pans out. But it seemed like 553 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: even after you know, they're kind of famous for infamous, 554 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: I should say, for kind of screwing up wide receiver 555 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: picks in a Belichick era and and also just kind 556 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: of random reaches on linemen that was kind of the 557 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: staple of the Belichick era. So it's funny that you know, 558 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: this first draft under a new regime, it's kind of 559 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: seemed like some of the same same mistakes were being made, 560 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of curious. 561 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: But let's go to the New York Jets. 562 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: You know, they get Olufashanu out of Penn State tackle 563 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: in round one, they get Malachai Poorley wide out out 564 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: of Western Kentucky in you know, at number sixty five. 565 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: Overall that those are their two picks in the top 566 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: one hundred. They keep going offense. Bradylan Allen back out 567 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: of Wisconsin, and then Florida State QB Jordan Travis at 568 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: one seventy one. Isaiah Davis, another running back out of 569 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: South Dakota State. They go with him at number one 570 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: seventy three. So their top five picks were all offense. 571 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: They do have a quarterback named Aaron Rodgers coming back. 572 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: So what did you think of the of this Jet draft? 573 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: The more I look at it, the more I just 574 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: absolutely hate it. I mean, I like Olufashanu a lot, 575 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: like I like him a lot potential to be a 576 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: long term franchise left tackle, you know, like ten to 577 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: twelve years as the blindside protector to a quarterback. So like, 578 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: I get it. Anytime you can take a player like that, 579 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: you probably do it. And it's almost impossible to have 580 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: too many offensive linemen, you know, so I entirely get it, 581 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: but I will say you are all in this year 582 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: on Aaron Rodgers, you know, like you have a very 583 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: limited championship window here. You added left tackle Tron Smith, 584 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: you traded for right tackle Morgan Moses, You brought in 585 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: left guard John Simpson. You have rebuilt the offensive line, Like, 586 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: how many more bodies do you need to bring in 587 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: to have a solid offensive line? Especially when if you 588 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: are all in this year, you want to maximize what 589 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 2: you are getting out of that number eleven pick. And 590 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: in a best case scenario, for Shan who doesn't play 591 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: this year, you know, like in a best case scenario, 592 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: Smith and Morgan Moses stay healthy. And for Shan who 593 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 2: just basically red shirts or like maybe he flexes into 594 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: guard if Elijah Vera Tucker isn't ready to go when 595 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: the season starts. But like for Sean, who isn't really 596 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: a guard, like he's a he's a pure tackle. So like, 597 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: I understand that this is a position of potential need 598 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: in that Smith and Morgans are both like thirty three 599 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: years old, but it just feels like if you are 600 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: bringing in both of those guys, you don't draft a 601 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: tackle at number eleven overall, maybe you draft one in 602 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: the second or third round, but it just it feels 603 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: like a lesser version of what the Falcons did in 604 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: signing a quarterback and then drafting one at number eight. 605 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: Like it just feels like, like, understand, you are in 606 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: this championship window. You need to be getting more out 607 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: of that investment than someone who, in a best case scenario, 608 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: is on the bench for the entire year and then 609 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: after that. I really don't like what they did either. 610 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: You know, they don't have their second rounder. With their 611 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: third rounder, they drafted wide receiver Malachai Corley, who sort 612 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: of gets like Deebo Samuel comps like he's not Deebo Samuel, 613 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: like pretty much no one is Deebo Samuel, but like 614 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: Malachi Corley is more like Amari Rodgers than like Samuel, 615 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: you know, like you like you can see it like stylistically, 616 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: it's like, yes, that is the way that he plays, 617 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: But I don't think he's going to fit all that 618 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: well as the slot receiver within that offense, which means 619 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: that like Alanlizard is just going to end up kicking 620 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: back into the slot. So you probably wasted a third 621 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 2: rounder on a guy who's not going to be playing 622 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: all that much, like big picture, Hey, do you think 623 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: it's a good idea for us to put a a 624 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: wide receiver in the third round who can't really run 625 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 2: routes with Aaron Rodgers? Like no, that's probably not a 626 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: good investment of a third round pick. And then you 627 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: look at what they did after that, Braylan Allen. I 628 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: really like Braylan Allen as like a super young, big 629 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: guy who can truck. But you don't need to add 630 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: a running back in the fourth round when you already 631 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 2: have Brest Hall in Israel Abana Konda on your roster. 632 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: You didn't need to do that. But if you did 633 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: add a running back in the fourth round, you especially 634 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: didn't need to add a running back in the fifth 635 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: round with Isaiah Davis, Like what are you doing? And then, 636 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: by the way, you didn't need to add quarterback Jordan 637 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: Travis to your roster in the fifth round, Like what 638 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: good are you going to get out of that? He 639 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: is highly unlikely to become your franchise quarterback like through development, 640 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: And if Aaron Rodgers is injured, your team is already screwed. 641 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: But still you have Tarad Taylor. Taylor is going to 642 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: come in as your backup, not this guy that you 643 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: were drafting in the fifth round. So it just fills 644 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: like with everything they did in this draft, they did 645 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: not understand the assignment, which was to build as much 646 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 2: as you can for this very short championship window that 647 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: you have. So like, I liked some of the players 648 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: they drafted if circumstances had been different, but man, like, 649 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: you just did not hit what you needed to do 650 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: do here. So this is like a D plus for me. 651 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they definitely went in on offense, which 652 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: is what they needed to do, but it's like the 653 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: way they did it, it doesn't really look like they 654 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: drafted many guys who are going to actually move the 655 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: needle this year for them. So yeah, it was it 656 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 3: was kind of a curious draft for the Jets. 657 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: Let's go Buffalo here. 658 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: So Buffalo ends up trading back out of the first 659 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: round and they grab a wide out in Keon Coleman 660 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: with the first pick of the second round out of 661 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: Florida State. Of course, you know, they end up you know, 662 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: giving a pick to the Chiefs that lets them go 663 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: get Xavier Worthy. 664 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Then Buffalo does have a lot of. 665 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: Picks on you know, Day two and Day three, a 666 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: lot of addressing the offensive line. The defense was addressed 667 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 3: as well. They do get a running back and Ray 668 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 3: Davis out of Kentucky at number one, twenty eight. So 669 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: what did you think, first of all of the trade 670 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: down out of the first round, and you know how 671 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 3: they'd ended up addressing the wide receiver position and then 672 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 3: just more their draft in general. 673 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: So I didn't hate the trade down. I know that 674 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: there were some people who are like, you cannot trade, 675 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: you know with the Chiefs, and especially when you know 676 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: that they are coming up to get a wide receiver 677 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: and you need a wide receiver. And like, I get 678 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: that perspective, but if the Bills were not going to 679 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: take Xavier Worthy, like it kind of doesn't matter, like 680 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: trade down, pick up some value, and then take the 681 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,479 Speaker 2: guy that you want whenever he's on the board because 682 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of wide receivers available at that 683 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: point in the draft. I don't hate the trade down. 684 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: In fact, I'll say, like, I think it was a 685 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: good move given the way that they were viewing those players. 686 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: So I understand the process. Now, I will say Kean 687 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Coleman is not the player that I would have selected 688 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: at the top of the second round there because people 689 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: have like have talked about him even after they drafted 690 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: him of like oh yeah, like he kind of fits 691 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: as like a big bodied slot and it's like, wait 692 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: a minute, that is absolutely not what they need. Like 693 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: they already have Curtis Samuel, like that guy is the 694 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 2: one who should probably be occupying the slot, and then 695 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: they have Khalil Shakur, who you know plays out wide 696 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: but really should probably be playing in the slot. Yeah, 697 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: and then you've got Dalton Kinkaid who's a tied end. 698 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: But it's really just a big bodied slot. Like the 699 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: last thing they needed to do was draft a big 700 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: bodied slot. So like I think Kean Coleman they can 701 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: talk about him as like maybe like an Ankwon Bolden 702 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: esque type of middle of the fill the receiver, but 703 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: like that dude's gonna have to play on the outside 704 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 2: and he's gonna have to win there, and like I 705 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: think he has the potential to do it, you know, 706 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 2: like he's a big bodied guy, good and contested catches situations. 707 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: I don't really know how he is as a separator, 708 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: and like that kind of ends up mattering in the NFL. 709 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: This is gonna sound like a really negative comp but 710 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: like Kelvin Benjamin, like a smaller Kelvin Benjamin is kind 711 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: of what he reminds me of. And remember, like Kellen 712 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: Benjamin actually had like a decent rookie year before he 713 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: got injured. And so like maybe there's the possibility that 714 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Coleman is just like a really good like kind of 715 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: like Mike Williams type like downfill dominator at the catch point. 716 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: Like maybe that works. And so I don't, like, I 717 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: don't have a big problem with it. I think there's 718 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: just a question in terms of like how he ends 719 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: up fitting with the offense Utah safety Cole Bishop. You know, 720 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 2: he hits a position of need there, you know, defensive 721 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: tackle Dewan Carter also, you know, like hits a position 722 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: to need Ray Davis. I think is a is a 723 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: pretty good complimentary back to James Cook. So I like that, 724 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: And then you know what they did after that on 725 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: day three, just a whole lot of bodies. Maybe some 726 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: of those guys end up making a difference. But you know, 727 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, like I get the process of trading back. 728 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: I think that was fine. I think it could have 729 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: been a better fit. Like I would have loved the 730 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: idea of a and I'm Mitchell as the guy that 731 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: they drafted here instead of Keon Coleman. So like I'll 732 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: say that this is a bee. There are some good things, 733 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: some not so good things, but at least like you 734 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: didn't reach in a lot of places. 735 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, that was fine. The 736 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: value they got was fine. I think the one thing 737 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: my concern with this draft is for the Bills. 738 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, you traded a guy in Stefon Diggs that 739 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: was very core to what you were doing, even if 740 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: you know he had maybe the end wasn't as great 741 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: as you would hope, but you come out of the 742 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: draft with one wide receiver and that out of your 743 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: ten picks, and that was even you know, that's not 744 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: even a slam dunk wide receiver pick in Coleman. 745 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: So I do that. 746 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: That's my concern with Buffalo and their draft. I know 747 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: they didn't want to reach, and you know, probably for 748 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: the best, but you know, I do I did think 749 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: they probably wanted to double up on wide receivers here 750 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: just to you know, I mean, replacing Stefan Diggs is 751 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: no small asking. You're not only replacing Diggs, but you know, 752 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 3: gave Davis. Say what you want about him as as 753 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: a receiver, but he did make a bunch of big 754 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: plays for you, and he was a great, great blocker. 755 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 3: So I mean there's a lot at wide receiver you 756 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: were trying to replace it for you to come out with, 757 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, Jess Coleman. So that's that's my kind of 758 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 3: look at the Billage Draft. And then we have the 759 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins as the as the final team we'll talk 760 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 3: about here in the ANC East. What did you think 761 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: of Miami's draft this year? You know, they are a 762 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: team that didn't have a ton of picks. Early on, 763 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: they go with Chop Robinson out of Penn State number 764 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 3: twenty one overall linebacker. Then they go tackle Patrick Pall 765 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: at number fifty five overall out of Houston, and then 766 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: they get Jalen Wright, who I think he was. 767 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 768 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun out of Tennessee at one twenty overall. 769 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: So you know, Miami not a ton of picks to 770 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: show for it here. 771 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: But what did you think? 772 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: I like this draft? Like, the more I look at it, 773 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: the more I do like it Chop Robinson. You know, 774 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: I think they got him at a position of need 775 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 2: with a little bit of value, like he was going 776 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: to go in the first round, and man, like they 777 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: need some help on the edge, just in terms of 778 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: like the guys that they have who were injured there, 779 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb. You know, like those guys are 780 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: starters when they're healthy, but you know there are some 781 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: health concerns there. I think Chop Robinson along with sha 782 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: Kill Barrett, forms like a really good rotational group there 783 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: at the edge. So I liked that they got him 784 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 2: get good value, and then you know they needed some 785 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: help on offensive line. Patrick Paul you know, maybe like 786 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: the last starter quality tackle in this class, and so 787 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 2: like there's a chance that he actually does end up 788 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: starting for them, you know, maybe pushes Austin Jackson for 789 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: the starting role. But you know, I think he was 790 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 2: a good pick there, and even if he doesn't end 791 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,479 Speaker 2: up starting right away, like he still gives them some 792 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: depth at offensive line. Jalen Right really intriguing, a big, 793 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: fast guy like fits very well within the Dolphins offense, 794 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: and like it's it is not hard to imagine like 795 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: the plan of like oh man, like right and a 796 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: chan are just going to form like this dynamic like 797 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: one two power punch there. So love that. You know, 798 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: you have to imagine that this probably means the end 799 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: for Raheem Moster or maybe he has a reduced role, 800 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: but you know, love what they're doing with Jalen right there, 801 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: even though like theoretically do you need a running back? 802 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: Probably not, but you're drafting one at pick one hundred 803 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: and twenty. It's fine. Mo Kamara, I think is a 804 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: good edge that they got with some value in the 805 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 2: fifth round. And then I like Malik Washington, the receiver 806 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: out of Virginia, who has a chance. I think of 807 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: pushing Braxton Barrios for the starting slot role there, and 808 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: so you know, to have a potential guy could start 809 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: for you and getting him in the sixth round and 810 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: getting him at you know, I wouldn't say it's a 811 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: massive position of need, but you would like to get 812 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: more from your slot receiver. And then I would say 813 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 2: getting him at value with him falling down the board, 814 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: I think there's really good value there. So the Dolphins 815 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: I like a lot of what they did. Yeah, b plus. 816 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: All I was jumped to the AFC West Kansas City, 817 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 3: I think is the most interesting one. You know, Xavier 818 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: Worthy as a guy who no, by no means a 819 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: slam dunk pick at wide receiver out of Texas. But 820 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 3: I do like, you know, given where the Chiefs are at, 821 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: you know, they really did a great job rebuilding that defense, 822 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 3: so they didn't you know a lot of times in 823 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 3: the past, it's felt like the Chiefs you know, needed 824 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: to go defense early on because they had my Homes 825 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 3: and all those guys. 826 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: But now it's a little different. So I like that Worthy. 827 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: You know, he's an outlier in terms of his speed, 828 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: and you're you're pairing an outlier with another outlier at 829 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: quarterback and and at coach for that matter. 830 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: So I like that. 831 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of a luxury I think for 832 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: them they did need a wide receiver, but I still 833 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 3: think it kind of a luxury pick, but I think 834 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: one with a ton of upside. 835 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: So I like that. 836 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 3: And then you know, continuing to kind of address the 837 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, you know, early on with 838 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 3: Sue Mattea and and Jared Wyley a tight end in 839 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: the fourth round. What'd you think of Kansas City's draft, 840 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: especially the Worthy pick. 841 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved this draft and you know, Worthy, I 842 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: think you hit it right. You know, maybe it's a 843 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 2: position that they didn't absolutely need to draft, and you know, 844 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: there can be some questions as to Xavier Worthy and 845 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: exactly like how complete his skill set is, but like 846 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: the dude is a Blazer, and like I think he's 847 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: actually a better receiver than he gets credit for. Like 848 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: he actually was like a complete receiver for texts, especially 849 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: like you know in his early year there, like he 850 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: broke out as a freshman. You know, like he's I 851 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 2: think he's like an actual legit football player, not just 852 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 2: a sprinter. And so putting him with Patrick Mahomes, like 853 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 2: I think there's there's not this certainty, but there's the 854 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: possibility that with Worthy they kind of recapture some of 855 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: the explosiveness that they had with Tyreek Hill. It's not 856 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: to say that Worthy will be Tyreek Hill, but like 857 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: he will just provide them some of the downfill passing 858 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: attack that they definitely have missed the past. They were. 859 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 3: Saying that they their comp for him is actually not 860 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, but another guy Andy Reid had in his past, 861 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 3: and that's DeShawn Jackson. And if he's like that, that's 862 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 3: still a major upgrade because if you think about what 863 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 3: Marquez Valdes Scantling was supposed to be, he was not. 864 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: He was obviously not a DeShawn Jackson. He's a lot, 865 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, bigger than that. But he was supposed to 866 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 3: be kind of that downfield guy that's going to get 867 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 3: single coverage because you have Kelsey anyway, Uh, that's supposed 868 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: to win deep and he wasn't. He ended up not 869 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: being that guy, though he had a great you know, 870 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowl run and whatnot. But Exavier Worthy, you know, 871 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: if he's anywhere near like DeShawn Jackson comp that adds 872 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 3: another element to that Chief offense. 873 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that component and I think it fits stylistically. 874 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: And then also like Worthy as a smaller guy, like 875 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: just physically, he is very similar to Deshaun Jackson as 876 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: a prospect. And if you were looking at mock drafts, 877 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: it was split between are the Chiefs going to go 878 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: wide receiver? Are they going to go offensive tackle in 879 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 2: round one? And the two guys who were regularly mocked 880 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: to them, Xavier Worthy and Kingsley Sua Matia And so 881 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 2: getting both of those guys getting Worthy in round one 882 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: and then waiting and getting Suma Matilla in round two 883 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: as your like potential, but I would say, like very 884 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 2: likely blindside protector for Patrick Mahomes. I think great process there, 885 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 2: great value, and then get getting Jared Wiley, the tight 886 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 2: end out of TCU in the fourth round, Like he's 887 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: probably not going to be the long term successor to 888 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: Travis Kelce, but like he's got a chance, Like he's 889 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 2: he's a little bit Kelsey like just in terms of 890 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: like the style of tight end that he is. So 891 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 2: adding a guy who has a shot of learning under 892 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 2: Kelsey and then maybe eventually replacing him if Kelsey retires 893 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: in the next you know, like one to three years 894 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 2: or something like that. I think there's some decent process there. 895 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: And then you know, like whatever they did in the 896 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: rest of like the fourth through seventh round at whatever, 897 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, they added a couple more interior offensive linemen. 898 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: I think that was probably a good process, and then 899 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: added two defensive backs, you know, losing a defensive back 900 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: this offseason. I think probably good process there. But you know, 901 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: those guys are will probably just be depth pieces. But 902 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 2: getting Worthy and Suma Matilla and then potentially the guy 903 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 2: who's the number two tight end but behind Kelsey now 904 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 2: and maybe the successor. I do like that process. So 905 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: a minus for the Chiefs. 906 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 3: I was talking about the Raiders now, because they you know, 907 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 3: they stay put in Round one and end up getting 908 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: Bowers to fall for them, you know, tight tight end, 909 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 3: but that wasn't really a position of need for them, 910 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 3: and then they don't get a quarterback, so they go 911 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: into the you know, offseason with O'Connell and Minshew at 912 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: the top there. 913 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: So what did you think of this Raider draft and 914 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: about the Bowers pick? 915 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had told you that we were 916 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: going to have six quarterbacks go off the board and 917 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 2: the Raiders would somehow not be one of the teams 918 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 2: to get one of those quarterbacks, like you would not, 919 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 2: believe me. Right, It's it's almost unthinkable the way that 920 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: the draft ended up playing out. And the Raiders are 921 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 2: left there with with Gardner Minshew as they're presumed week 922 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: one starting quarterback, you know, and maybe they're maybe they 923 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 2: are fine with it, maybe they theoretically are okay with this, 924 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 2: but you have and I'll just say, if ever there 925 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: were a situation where Tom Brady comes back, this would 926 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: be the team, Like go go say to Tom Brady, Hey, 927 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 2: we've got Davante Adams and Jacoby Myers. We've got these 928 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: two wide these two tight ends, and Brock Bauers and 929 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 2: Mike Mayer that you might like throwing to. We just 930 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: added a new center, and our defense looked really good 931 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: at the end of last season. Like it feels like 932 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: that is the only out otherwise, or like maybe Ryan Tannehill, 933 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: but I don't think that's really an out. Like otherwise 934 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: you're going with Gardner Minshew and it just sucks. And 935 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: like brock Bauers, I think he has a ton of upside, 936 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: was awesome immediately as a freshman at Georgia. I like 937 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 2: him a lot, et cetera, et cetera. That said, this 938 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: feels like a terrible situation for him because this is 939 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 2: going to be a slow run, heavy offense where you 940 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 2: already have two wide receivers ahead of you, DeVante Adams 941 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 2: and Jacoby Myers, who are probably going to dominate targets 942 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 2: more than you. You're going to have to compete with 943 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: Mike Mayer, who I thought was a really good tight 944 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: end prospect last year and whom the team invested a 945 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 2: second round pick in like, there's only so much playing 946 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 2: time that you're going to get and only so many 947 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: targets that you're going to get, and those targets coming 948 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: from Minshew are going to be a pretty low quality. 949 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: So even though I like Bowers, I felt like it's 950 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: a terrible landing spot for him, and like a terrible 951 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to say a terrible pick by the Raiders, 952 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: but like, you definitely did not need to draft a 953 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: tight end. This would have been maybe the last position 954 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 2: I would have said you need on your team in 955 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: the first round. So I think just kind of bad 956 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: process there. Getting Jackson Powers Johnson the center slash guard 957 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: in the second round, I think that's fine. He potentially 958 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: could have gone in the first round, so you're getting 959 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 2: some value there, a decent chance that he ends up 960 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: starting for you at right guard in a week one, 961 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 2: So like, I don't hate that, And then the other 962 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: guys after that just kind of like whatever their bodies. 963 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: I do like Dylan Lobs, the running back that they 964 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: got out of the University of New Hampshire on Day 965 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 2: three in round six, I think he actually has a 966 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 2: really good chance of becoming the number two running back 967 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: within that offense like Alexander Madison. Just feels like it 968 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: has been in kind of like fairly duplicative with Zamir 969 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 2: White in terms of skill set ye and then Dylan 970 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 2: Lob I think at this point is an upgrade on 971 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 2: amirror Abdullah as the pass catching back. So actually I 972 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: do like Lob as kind of like especially like for 973 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: fantasy maybe like a dark throw, but then even like 974 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 2: for the team, Like I do not want to say 975 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: he has like Austin Eckler potential or something like that, 976 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 2: but like he could be like the small school guy 977 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: who kind of starts out his career as like a 978 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: committee receiving back and actually ends up kind of being 979 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: more important to the team than they would have anticipated. 980 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: So I like the value that they got with him there. 981 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: But like other than that, I don't think that they 982 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: really did a good job of addressing need and value. 983 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 2: Like they didn't reach for a ton of players, so 984 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: like I think at least that is good, Like they 985 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 2: probably stayed true to their board, which is how you 986 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: end up with Bronck Bowers at number thirteen. Like they 987 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: stayed true to their board. They didn't reach, and they 988 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 2: probably got some values here and there, especially with JPJ 989 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: in the second round, but otherwise, like, I don't think 990 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: they did anything all that great. So and then I'll 991 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: just say, like, big picture, you had to leave this 992 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: draft with a quarterback and not doing that like that 993 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: automatically like knocks you down a letter grade. So I'm 994 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: gonna say, like this is like a D plus. 995 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it hurts when you know the Broncos get a 996 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 3: quarter another team in your division gets a quarterback right 997 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 3: before you're picked too. So we'll talk about the Broncos 998 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: in a second, but I do want to talk about 999 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 3: the Chargers. They get Joe Ault at number five overall, 1000 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 3: you know, they go with him instead of wide out 1001 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: like Molak Neighbors, but they do go wide out early 1002 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: second and get Ladd McConkie out of Georgia. 1003 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: What did you think of the Chargers draft? 1004 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: So, I like what they did in terms of how 1005 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: they sequenced it, getting alt in the first round, coming 1006 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 2: back getting a wide receiver in the second round, where 1007 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 2: like they could have done the opposite, where like you 1008 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: go with Malik Neighbors in round one, but you know 1009 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 2: in the second round you probably wouldn't have liked nearly 1010 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 2: as much the offensive tackle that you were getting there. 1011 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 2: So I like the way that they sequenced it, and 1012 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 2: it is like very Jim Harbaugh to be like we're 1013 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: getting we're getting a tackle, we're building through the trenches. 1014 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 2: And then I do like the receiver that they got 1015 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 2: in the second round and Lad McConkey. This is going 1016 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: to sound like such an insult, but it's not like 1017 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: what the Cardinals were hoping, like Andy Isabella would be, 1018 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 2: Like I feel like that is what Lad mcconkeye could be. 1019 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 2: Like he's fast, but he's not just like a slot receiver, 1020 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 2: like he's he's not big, so like there are concerns 1021 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 2: about can he play on the outside, but because of 1022 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 2: his speed, I think he can play on the outside. 1023 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: And he was super productive on a per route and 1024 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: a per snap basis at Georgia. Like he didn't have 1025 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 2: a ton of playing time just because that's not the 1026 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: way that Georgia does it, but when he was on 1027 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 2: the field, he was productive. And then like just as 1028 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 2: a route technician, I feel like he fits really well 1029 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: with the quarterback that they have. And then after that, 1030 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 2: like they just addressed a whole lot of defense, multiple cornerbacks, linebacker, 1031 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. I feel like that probably makes sense just 1032 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: given who they are and the needs that they have. 1033 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: So like, I don't like absolutely love the draft, but 1034 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: like I feel like the way that they sequenced what 1035 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 2: they did in the first round, what they did in 1036 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 2: the second round, and then hitting defense after that, like 1037 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 2: they hit needs. So like I would say this is 1038 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 2: like a B plus. 1039 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's finish up with the Denver Broncos. They 1040 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 3: go Bo Nicks at Oregon quarterback at twelve overall, and 1041 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 3: then they also get Nixon's wide out Troy Franklin early 1042 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 3: in the fourth round. In between, they only had one pick, 1043 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: Jonah Ellis, an edge out of Utah. 1044 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: What did you think? What do you think of Nick? 1045 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: And what did you think of the Broncos draft? 1046 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 2: Nicks felt like a really significant reach. I mean, I 1047 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 2: understand that you have, you know, offensive mastermind who wants 1048 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: his quarterback, but it just felt like, you know, you 1049 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 2: don't need to take Bonnicks now when you can take 1050 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 2: him in the second round. You know, like there's or 1051 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 2: like trade down a little bit and pick him later 1052 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: in the first round. But anyway, picking Bonix at number 1053 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 2: twelve whatever, it is definitely a reach just in terms 1054 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: of like the consensus big board. But you know, if 1055 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 2: there is one coach who maybe can really figure out, hey, 1056 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: this is how I want to use this particular type 1057 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: of quarterback, I do think it's Sean Payton. I will 1058 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 2: say it feels weird to me that a team with 1059 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams and samaj p Ryan and Jalil McLaughlin and 1060 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 2: a team that doesn't have all that many draft picks 1061 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: is like, hey, you know what, we need another running 1062 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 2: back in the fifth round, right, And so like I 1063 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 2: like Audric Estime, the running back out of Notre Dame, 1064 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 2: but like, man, you did not need to draft him 1065 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: in the fifth round. They got good value in the 1066 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: fourth round with the Oregon wide receiver Troy Franklin. But 1067 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 2: I will say, like there's a reason he was falling 1068 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: down the board. I don't know if you remember, like 1069 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: Paul Richardson, who you know was with the Seahawks, slender guy, 1070 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: like decent speed, but like he either needed to be 1071 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 2: just a little bit bigger or a little bit faster. 1072 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: Like that is Troy Franklin. He like what he is 1073 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 2: now is a guy who is just not quite fast 1074 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: enough or not quite big enough. And I get that 1075 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 2: there's the idea of like the instant mind meld that 1076 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: he could have with bow Nicks, given that they're coming 1077 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: from the same program, But I just kind of don't 1078 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 2: see him being a high level player in the NFL. 1079 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 2: So reaching on Nicks, you know, Franklin is a value 1080 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 2: based on you know, where he was projected to go, 1081 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: but I think they're you know, concerns about his play style, 1082 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 2: you know, not getting positions of need later in the draft. 1083 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, man like a d. 1084 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of it. 1085 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 3: You know, once you reach on Knicks and then you 1086 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 3: I mean, would you have taken Franklin if you didn't 1087 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 3: have Nicks? So then that comes into play, like you 1088 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 3: could be just kind of doubling down on a potential 1089 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 3: mistake there. 1090 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was questionable. 1091 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 3: The only thing, I mean, you know, they did you 1092 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 3: think the Raiders take Nicks at thirteen? 1093 00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: If? 1094 00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 2: If? 1095 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: If the Broncos don't. 1096 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Well, I think they were I 1097 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 2: think they were out on Knicks. I think the only 1098 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 2: team that liked Nicks was the Broncos. And it's funny. 1099 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: It is funny that you have Sean Payton like crowing 1100 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 2: after they talked after the draft Knicks about how he 1101 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 2: tricked the Vikings into trading up one spot. It's like, well, man, 1102 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: like read the market, like you tricked yourself into taking 1103 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 2: bo Nicks right at number twelve when no one else 1104 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: was bidding against you for him. 1105 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, like you said, if Sean, if 1106 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 3: there's any coach, Sean Payton would be it. But yeah, 1107 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 3: that's definitely a move, that's that's a questionable move. And 1108 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: they've already struck out once and you know, trying to 1109 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 3: fix that quarterback position. So we'll see. But uh, before 1110 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 3: we get out of here, who is overall? Just who 1111 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 3: is your favorite draft for the AFC? 1112 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 2: Man, I do like what what the Chiefs were able 1113 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 2: to do with the top of their picks, but I 1114 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 2: will I will go with Pittsburgh. I do like the 1115 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: f Utanu and Fraser picks back to back, really solidifying 1116 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 2: the offensive line, and then Roman Wilson in the third 1117 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 2: round and adding Peyton Wilson in the third round is 1118 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 2: maybe the guy who can finally solidify the middle of 1119 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 2: their defense there. So I will go with the Steelers. 1120 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 3: All right, Well, great stuff as always and for everyone listening, 1121 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 3: be sure to check out our NFC episode, which is 1122 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 3: up already if you haven't yet, and you can be 1123 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 3: sure to check out everything Matthew's up to over at 1124 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 3: Fantasy Life and you can follow Matt Friedman at Matt 1125 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 3: f the Oracle on Twitter. Thanks for listening, We'll see 1126 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 3: you next time on the Action Network podcast presented by 1127 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 3: bet MGM let's Get Fish Money. 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