1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Nick Shot 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition 6 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. I am Bill Jones with the great 7 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, future Hall of Famer Everson Balls, I might add, 8 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. We are one week down, just over 9 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: three weeks to go now before the Cowboys kick off 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty regular season at the Los Angeles Rams. 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: How are you guys doing this morning? I'm doing great, 12 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: sitting here at the start watch practice at the Ford 13 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Center and ready to take some shots today. All right, 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: how about you? Ever soon? I am feeling good. I 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: have your optimism today, Bill, Everything is about Cowboys. Everything 16 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: is about the season getting going, and we are looking 17 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: forward to the super Bowl. Where's your hat? That's where's 18 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: your super Bowl hat? I tried? I need to get. 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: In fact, the Super Bowl is going to be carried 20 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: on CBS once again this year, and so I hate 21 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: to get my CBS super Bowl hat. Get ready, to 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: make the trip to Tampa. We're ready, and in fact, 23 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson maybe making the trip to Tampa as some 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: big news for him. We'll get into over the course 25 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: of the next hour, and that moves to make you, 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: That moves Everson one step closer to getting into kid today. 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely should right. You never know how those wheels turn 28 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: up there in Canton, but I think Everson should be 29 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: absolutely next. And I was gonna be hesitant to bring 30 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: it up because I didn't know if Everson would be like, oh, 31 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: he's getting in and I'm not. No, no, you know, yeah, 32 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I know you guys. I love me some Drew, I mean, 33 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: everybody does. I mean, that's that's why he was the 34 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: I think he was the only senior nominee this year, 35 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: because to me, that's just making up a lost time. 36 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: That's not a makeup call in basketball. They know they 37 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it, and they're trying to go back 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: and and reverse their mistakes. So good job by the 39 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame committee. Yeah, it's almost like they cleared 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: the table off. It's like, let's not confuse this right 41 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: and have two or three nominees. We're gonna have one 42 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and get it right, and uh, and so by being 43 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: the lone senior finalist, that's when you know somebody screw 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: it up. Place a Saturday before the Super Bowl in 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: February sixth in Tampa, and you have to get eighty 46 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: percent of the vote, a virtual shoe in. And what's 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: interesting about it is the fact that course is back 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: in January, we all saw Drew was so emotional when 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: he did not get the call, and he got the 50 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: call from David Baker earlier this week. And now, oddly enough, 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: with this pandemic, Jimmy's going in next year the actual 52 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: induction ceremony Cliff Harris as well. So as it turns out, 53 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: if Drew gets voted in on February sixth, he'll go 54 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: in with everybody else, just like he got as if 55 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: he would have been and voted in back in January 56 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: a Cowboys jamboree in Capton, Ohio. Absolutely see that the 57 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: pandemic is the great It's the great equalizer. That's what 58 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: that pandemic was, all right, it was a great equalizer. 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I love that. I love it. Everything turned out well. 60 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that over the course of the 61 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: next hour and take your comments on it as well, 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: but Mickey, we had a practice once again this morning. 63 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: We had a Mike McCarthy press conference at seven to 64 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: fifteen am, and you took it all in. Give us 65 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: an update. What you know from Cowboys practice this morning. Well, 66 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: they did a split location practice, I should say, did 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: the individual drills outdoors on the grass field and then 68 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: when they went into the team period, they moved inside 69 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: to the Ford Center. So not sure why he split 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: it like that. I don't know if he's getting paranoid 71 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: of people watching the team practice outdoors with all the 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: construction going on, or what the deal is. But you know, 73 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: they had practice indoors the previous day and then they 74 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: did half and half today, so individual drills and then 75 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: really do working hard indoors on two minute drill hurry 76 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: up offense. They've done that now for the past couple 77 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: days and it's been pretty exciting to watch. They did 78 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: have a couple I don't know if I should call 79 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: a minor injuries. Jordan Lewis left as soon as they 80 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: started to practice indoors. Looked like he got tangled up 81 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of an ankle. Maybe U Tyrant Smith 82 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: left during individual drills, So I'm not sure what was 83 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: going on there. And as for updates on Everson Griffin, 84 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: he was in uniform but really didn't do much, especially 85 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: when they went to team He and Don Terry Poe 86 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: who's now aff off of Pope Pop. Basically during the 87 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: team sessions they were just watching so pretty spirited practice, 88 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and I thought Cedric Wilson kind of put his hand 89 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: up in the air and said, hey, don't forget about me. 90 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Everybody talks about the first three wide receivers, and he 91 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: had himself quite a day to day during the day. 92 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: You go there, you go, good stuff, good stuff. It 93 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: seems weird. The cowboys go from from Forest Lane over 94 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: but by Hamilton Park where I grew up, Bill, you 95 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: know what that was. And they were always worried about 96 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: being spied on from the hotel the day's in which 97 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, have the two stories and we had the 98 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: little six foot fence, so they would always spy on 99 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: our practices. The cowboys have gone all the way from 100 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Forest Lane h to Frisco and they still might have 101 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: that same concern. So just think about how weird that is. 102 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: That's one thing you got to think about. Hey, Everson, 103 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: you know what the other night I saw a special 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: on the news and it was about Hamilton Park and 105 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: a guy that grew grew up there, went to school 106 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: at the elementary school and now he's the assistant principal 107 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: at the elementary school there in Hamilton Park. So they 108 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: gave me a little history lesson of where you grew up. 109 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and and that's you can you can kind 110 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: of surmise from the from the special just how proud 111 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: we were as a people. Uh. It was really when 112 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: they talked about a project, they talked about the development 113 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: of African Americans. Hamiltons Park is like no other h 114 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I was able to deal with gil Brant, Tech Shram, Hollywood, Henderson, 115 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Drew Pearsons. I was able to deal with all of 116 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: those different personalities on the football field because when I 117 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: grew up in Hamilton Park, we had every type of 118 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: person that you ever wanted to come across, rich, poor, intelligent, crazy. 119 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: So it was like a sociology project and that that 120 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: got me ready for the craziness that was up there 121 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: at the forest Land and Agents back in the day 122 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: twin sixties hotel as well. Yeah, I didn't realize it 123 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: was a planned neighborhood and that was where they allowed 124 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I guess the black folks to be able to live 125 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: within the city limits. It seemed like returning World War 126 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Two veterans and also Korean War veterans as well. That 127 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: was what it was for. I don't know how this 128 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: black doctor pulled it off to buy this primo land 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: on the north side of Dallas. They've been trying to 130 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: boot us off that hill ever since. We're still hanging 131 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: in there. We're still hanging in there. It was interesting. 132 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: So well. Making one note about practice today, Everson Griffin 133 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: has worked his way around to wearing his customary number 134 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: ninety seven or the Cowboys. Originally he was believing gonna 135 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: be ninety six. He's now ninety seven. Tristan Hill has 136 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: switched to seven. What is the seventy two seventy two, 137 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: seventy two, yes, and Neville Gallimore moved to ninety six. Okay, 138 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: all right, So for those of you keeping track at home, 139 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: that that is your roster, update your Nu Miracle roster, 140 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: so you can now update that on your respective computers. 141 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the news of the week to 142 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: kick things off. And of course it was the first 143 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: practice in Pads on Monday about forty five minutes into 144 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the practice, Gerald McCoy goes down with a ruptured right 145 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: quadriceps tendon. Had surgery the next day. Cowboys release him 146 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: the next day, and as it turns out, he had 147 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: a quad injury in fact, not just a quad injury, 148 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: but a right quad injury clause in his contract, and 149 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: so he gets his signing bonus, but the Cowboys are 150 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: off the hook for the re Yeah. As pretty savvy 151 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: contract the Cowboys put together. So when he took his 152 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: original uh physical uh it when it checked out, they 153 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: saw a pre pre existing condition with the right quadricept. 154 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: So in the contract, uh, they put a clause in 155 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: there that said, if something happens with the right quadricep 156 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: tendon or anything related to the right quadricept, that the 157 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: contract basically becomes null and void. And the only money 158 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: that we're guaranteeing him that he will receive was the 159 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: three million dollars signing bonus, So any other guarantees the 160 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: per roster game played guarantee uh salary cap that all 161 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: went away. So the Cowboys ended up putting four point 162 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: seven five million back into the cap for this year. 163 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Now his charge on the three million dollars signing bonus 164 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: will be spread over two years. One million dollars this year, 165 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: two million dollars in dead money next year. So obviously 166 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: they saw something when he signed here in Bill and 167 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: ever since, I was just wondering maybe that's the reason 168 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: why the Cowboys were able to sign him when you 169 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: know other teams maybe backed off, is that they were 170 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: willing to gamble the three million dollars to bring him aboard, 171 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: where maybe other teams weren't. You know, we had we 172 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: had said originally, and there was probably something to this 173 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: that he wanted to get closer to his son, who 174 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: was going to be a freshman at Oklahoma on scholarship, 175 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: and that may have had something to do with it. 176 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: But it also maybe he didn't have a lot of 177 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: people knocking on his door because of the pre existing 178 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: condition with his quad. And I'm sure man, as as 179 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: things went on, I'm sure he wasn't looking forward to 180 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: this type of scenario just so happened to Cowboy has 181 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: anticipated it, and I'm sure it was no big secret 182 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: as well, Like you said, spacts, that's why no one 183 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: was signing him at the time they put that clause in. 184 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: They were willing to eat the three million plus if 185 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: that was to happen. I think it's kind of sad though, 186 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: you know it. I thought we saw some some good 187 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: things that were going to happen. We could we could 188 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: foresee some good things that we were hoping that would 189 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: happen with McCoy. It would have been nice to see 190 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: him in that uniform and play out the season and 191 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: see just what he could do for us. I guess 192 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, you know, it's a 193 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: consolation prize that he does. He is able to get 194 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the money and able to stay down here with his son. 195 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: But this is kind of what I spoke about last show, guys. 196 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: This pace that we're dealing with in regards to the season, 197 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: in regard us to no preseason games, in regards to 198 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: the accelerated pace on getting this team ready. These injuries 199 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: are going to wreak havoc on the Cowboy roster and 200 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: we may go into the season with some very odd 201 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: combinations when it comes to the roster itself. And I'm 202 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: very curious to see how the Cowboy coaching staff and 203 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: the training staff is going to deal with all of 204 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: these different injuries coming and with the accelerated pace that 205 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: they're dealing with. It's going to be an odd combination 206 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: for the team to deal with, more so, of course 207 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: than a regular season. When you're dealing with this accelerated 208 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: pace and the COVID thing going on, it's gonna be 209 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: like juggling balls. Really, it's gonna be like a juggling 210 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: act for the coaching staff and the training staff. You know, 211 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I understand, I agree with it. I agree with you 212 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: on that, And they've done a pretty good job so 213 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: far because if it's a two hour practice, the first 214 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: hour is all special teams and individual drills, so there's 215 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: really minimal contact. And the unfortunate thing of this one 216 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: was it was during the individual drills where all they 217 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: were doing was coming off the ball, uh and having 218 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: another defensive lineman across from the other guy and just 219 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of acting like he's an offensive lineman. Uh. And unfortunately, 220 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: when when Antoine Woods came off and it happened, Uh, 221 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: we were watching from the Quarterback club in the Cowboys Club. 222 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: It was right below and he stepped on his foot. 223 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: That's what I thought happened. It looked like he stepped 224 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: on his foot, exact foot and when he went back. 225 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: You got three hundred pounds standing out on one of 226 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: your your feet and it and it ruptured the tendon 227 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: in his quad. So it was kind of a weird one. 228 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't like sprinting down field or pushing 229 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: off and trying to tackle somebody. And they haven't done 230 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: that yet, by the way, either there's been no tackling. 231 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: There's been bumping. As a matter of fact, I saw 232 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith today. It was a running play by the 233 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: sideline and he nailed the running back out and knocked 234 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: him out of bounds. And then when the guy got up, 235 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's twenty not twenty one, so it's okay. Well, 236 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: one thing, one thing that we talk about. These are 237 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: pretty much non contact drills that we're talking about once 238 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the season starts. Yes, oh my goodness, I cannot wait 239 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: to see the injury report after the first ball game, 240 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: after a full contact after all the intensity. The guys 241 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: are trying to hold everything for the first game, trying 242 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: to hold it in. The injury list for after the 243 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: first game is going to be so long and so confusing. 244 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be a trip well, as 245 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: is the case as is the case every year, you know, 246 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: early in training camp there's always a lot of injuries. 247 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: And the ACL count as of about twenty four hours 248 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: ago across the league was I believe at eight. Normally, 249 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: one doctor said that they in a typical NFL season, 250 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: you have fifty ACL injuries across the league. And so 251 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: we are one week into this and there as of 252 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: yesterday there were eight ACL injuries across the league. And again, 253 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: as you said, Everson, teams aren't going necessarily full speed 254 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: all the time at all right now, and you know 255 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: the hitting hasn't started or anything like that, and so uh, 256 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: it's and it's going to be interesting this year, as 257 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: you say, because they did not have the typical offseason 258 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: to see how many more injuries if if indeed, we 259 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: do have more injuries as we go along. What about 260 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm monitoring, of course, we're streaming 261 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: as usual on periscope. I'm monitoring par scope. So if 262 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: you have any comments and he questions, I can pass 263 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: them along to Mickey and Everson here. But what about 264 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: what do the Cowboys do now? With McCoy out. I 265 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: think one of the not only his ability on the field, 266 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: but his presence in the locker room is something that 267 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: they're going to really miss. You know, if you know 268 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: anything about Gerald McCoy, you know that he has such 269 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: a positive outlook on life. It was evident even as 270 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: he posted videos from his hospital bed prior to surgery 271 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: and after surgery, he says that he still wants to 272 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: be a mentor to these young defensive linemen that he 273 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: had established a relationship with. Even though now he can't 274 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: go in the building because he's been released by the team, 275 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: He's still gonna connect with them. But how do the 276 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys offset the loss because they were counting on Gerald 277 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: McCoy to be a big part of this team. Yeah, Billy, 278 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about that previously, about his influence 279 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: in the locker room. They will miss that because I 280 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: think those young guys were filing him, especially Tristan Hill, 281 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: uh and Neville Gallimore. What a great example, what a 282 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: great personality mentor for those guys. And you know, always 283 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: felt like a guy like Tristan Hill really needed that 284 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: after he kind of had a washout rookie season. But 285 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: he seems to have turned things around a little bit. 286 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: His body looks better, his enthusiasm looks better. Uh. And 287 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: when they're going out there and uh, you know he's 288 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: he's he's taken the place uh in a lot of 289 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: the snaps of Gerald McCoy, and so has uh Tyrone Crawford. Uh. 290 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: And so between those two guys and Gallimore, they're gonna 291 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: have to fill that spot. And it made me takes 292 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: three guys to do it. And I always thought that 293 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: was going to be a rotation position there anyway that 294 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, McCoy wasn't gonna play five to fifty five 295 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: snaps a game that they would try to get some 296 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: young guys in there. Now if they earn it, they're 297 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: getting every opportunity to do. So. Now we're gonna see 298 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: what you got, Tristan Hill. We're gonna see what you 299 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: got Neville Gallimore. And if those guys, you know, don't 300 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: don't grab some snaps, then Tyrone Crawford's gonna be your 301 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: three technique, especially on first and second downs. And if 302 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: they go to Nickel, I wouldn't be surprised. Look, they've 303 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: got some big defensive ends, right, Alden Smith is two eighty, 304 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson's two eighty five. Those guy and Jackson rush 305 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: some from inside you know, those guys can easily move 306 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: inside and create some problems. And then you got Antoine 307 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: Woods at the nose tackle position. Don Terry. Poe hasn't 308 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: practiced yet, so I'll be interested to see if if 309 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: you know a little bit about Antoine. Right, he's not 310 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: a give up guy, so I'm sure he's thinking, Okay, 311 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you brought in Poe, but I'm gonna fight for my snaps. 312 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: And when you look at the roster, the core of 313 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: this team, they all seem to be around the same 314 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: age and also the same temperament. You look at the 315 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you don't really have an outspoken guy on 316 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: the offensive linement. I think Looney might have been one 317 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: of the more charismatic guys on the old line. You're 318 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback position, running back position, D line, 319 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: no one really stands out as that boisterous player. You're 320 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: bringing a guy like Everson Griffin who's really not that boisterous. 321 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: He's just a guy that does work as best he can. 322 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: But I didn't I don't even call him being that 323 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: vocal leader they're going to have to rely on. I 324 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know either one person who's going to have to 325 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: step up and be that person that inspires you. Maybe 326 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Woods would be that guy. But for the most part, 327 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: everyone on that team seems to have the same temperament. 328 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: No one seems to step out as that person that's 329 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: unusually boisterous or that vocal leader. It would be nice 330 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: to keep McCoy around, but like you said, you can't 331 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: come to the practice field anymore. But it would be 332 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: nice to hit for him sometime in the future, to 333 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: be that voice for the team in the locker room. 334 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: Have a team full of players that are almost of 335 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: the same temperament. I think that's why when things start 336 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: to go wrong in the ballgame, you really don't see 337 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a sense of urgency coming from any particular player. You 338 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: don't have that Michael Irvin or that Dare's Brian over there, 339 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, punch it at the 340 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: air and getting people fired up. I think they're going 341 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to need that person. Yeah, you need someone. Maybe it 342 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: would be coach McCarthy. He can go out there and 343 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: fill a red flag at a referee and hit him 344 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: in the face and then that might inspire some people. 345 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: But you don't have that on the team right now. 346 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: I hope they can. They can find someone that can 347 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: inspire them verbally in that way. Wheneverson brought up the 348 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: makeup call earlier in the show, I was thinking, Yeah, 349 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: they sure didn't have a makeup call for two technical 350 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: files on a basketball player. That's exactly right. And I'll 351 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: just add this. I know we have to we have 352 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: to go to break. But one of the guys that 353 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: has become more vocal now that he's at middle life, 354 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, Mickey, hold on, Let's 355 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: let's tease that. Let's tease that. I want to know. 356 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you after this. Yes, let's take a break 357 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: and we will let you know who Mickey thinks that 358 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: vocal guy who will step up and Gerald McCoy's absence 359 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: and we come back on Mick shots. Hey, they're cowboys. 360 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Fans with Ty Cleaners at home pickup and delivery, cleaning 361 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: your clothes has never been more convenient. 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They're 404 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: in meetings and probably have a walk through this afternoon. 405 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what the schedule is the rest 406 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: of the day, but that's typically the way it works. 407 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: As yesterday, it wasn't a day off for the players. 408 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: It was a day off as far as practice goes, 409 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: but they did have meetings and walk throughs and then 410 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: they'll pray practicing again tomorrow morning. And Mickey, as we 411 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: went to break, Everson was talking about the loss of 412 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy and who's going to replace Gerald as that 413 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: vocal leader that we anticipated that Gerald might be a 414 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: part of. Who do you have in mind as a 415 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: guy who's going to step up in that capacity. Well, 416 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about in the locker room, but I've 417 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: seen it on the field already. And that guy that's 418 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: kind of taken charge of that defense is Layton Vanderish. 419 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: They moved him. They've moved him to the middle linebacker spot. 420 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: So he's getting the call, the defensive call from Mike 421 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: Nolan in his helmet, relaying it to the rest of 422 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: the team. So that doesn't make you a leader. I 423 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: could go out there and relay the call probably if 424 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: I could remember it all right. I know you're not 425 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: trying to compare yourself to Layton Listen. No, I'm just 426 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: comparing myself to relay in the call. Anybody can do that, right, 427 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: But I see him being more vocal of getting guys 428 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: lined up, making checks at the line of scrimmage or 429 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: whatever they need to do. And he's talked about how 430 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: he feels like he's a little bit more in charge 431 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: now that he's at the middle linebacker spot. So from 432 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: an on field presence, look for him to kind of 433 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: be that guy being more vocal. Uh. And then if 434 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: you need the emotion, I guarantee it, you can get 435 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: it from either one of those defensive ends, from either 436 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. Uh. And from what I've heard of Everson 437 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: Griffin probably him as a matter of fact, guys, he 438 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I just saw where he was doing his interview today 439 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: while we were getting going uh. And Rob Rob Phillips 440 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: pointed out that Griffin talked about the Cowboys being his 441 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: favorite team growing up, and we talked about this last 442 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: week we beat him to the punch uh and said 443 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: he was named after the great Everson Walls. Yeah, he 444 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: talks about it in his best conference today. Yes he did, 445 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: all right, he talks like that, but then he doesn't 446 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: even know what position I played, So I'm kind of disappointed. 447 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Safety a linebacker. He said safety linebacker or something like that. 448 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: So he didn't name himself. It was his dad. That's okay. 449 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: When I talk to him, I'm gonna be wagging my 450 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: finger in his face like some old dude. We're gonna 451 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get you two together, right, Yeah, well, Mickey, 452 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: we need to get them together on this show. That's 453 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: your assignment for you, I mean appreciate it is to 454 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: get Everson Griffin on with Everson Walls so he can 455 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: go down memory lank all right. On the topic of 456 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the vocal leader, Everson, who on your teams was? I mean, 457 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: we know who the big personalities were, but who are 458 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: the real locker room leaders on those teams that you 459 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: played on. You know, when you start talking about locker 460 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: room leaders, that's one thing. I happened to be one 461 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: of those locker room lawyers. I don't know if the 462 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: leader and lawyer going the same category as for us 463 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: coaches are concerned, but we've all we had a team 464 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: full of veterans and one guy that I really enjoyed 465 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: listening to and he was my mentor. Was both of 466 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: them have to be dbs. Actually, Dennis Thurman and Charlie Waters. 467 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Waters was just my own personal cheerleader because he 468 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure I made as many plays as 469 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: possible because he's playing on one leg back there, so 470 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: he need as much help as possible. But he was 471 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: a guy that was always in the coach's ear, always 472 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: doing those things behind the scenes to make the scheme, 473 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: the defensive scheme morecompatible to the team that we were 474 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: playing against. That's what I liked about Charlie. You know, 475 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: coaches will go out there and they'll have an idea 476 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: of what's best for the players. You need a player 477 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: to say what's best for the players, and Charlie was 478 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: that guy. Dennis Thurman also was a guy that that 479 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: followed in that same suit. Wanted to make sure that 480 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: the players were in the best position to make plays 481 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: in this difficult flex defense that we had to deal with. 482 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: So those two guys were always those locker room leaders. 483 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: But when it came down to it, unfortunately back then 484 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: you had a lot of people that were afraid to 485 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: speak up because you know, the cowboy locker room back 486 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: then was a little bit rigid, a little bit more 487 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: rigid as far as the owners were concerned, as far 488 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: as the coach was concerned. So we had to we 489 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: had to. We had to find our leaders in some 490 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: obscure places. And those two guys were the ones that 491 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: really inspired me. Now, if you want to talk about 492 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: guys like Harvey Martin who was always fired up, he 493 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: was just an engine within himself. Randy White was the 494 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: same way, but just don't get in his way because 495 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: he knocked the hell out of YouTube as a teammate. 496 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: So you had all kinds of ways that people inspired 497 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: each other and inspired their teammates. But this team was 498 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more rigid than the team that we're 499 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: talking about right now. Yeah, they didn't have many present 500 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: day terms. Sean Lee would be a guy today in 501 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: the latter stages of his career for what Charlie Waters 502 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: was to you in the latter stages of his career 503 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: back when you came into the league in the early eighties. Uh. 504 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: And so there needs to be like a Layton vander Esha, 505 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence. So that type of guy who's 506 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: in the in the Pro Bowl portion of their career 507 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: where they can be big time leaders they're playing every 508 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: play and and uh, you know, on Everson's team, while 509 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, you have to kind of define leader. But 510 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of shy guys in that 511 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: locker room, right. Uh. You know he mentioned Randy White. 512 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: I could still hear the booming voice of John Dutton. 513 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Uh forgot he was not shy, right. Uh. Eugene Lockhart, 514 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him shy either. Uh. So, yeah, they 515 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: had some characters in that locker room. For sure. I 516 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: thought we were ray. But when it came to inspiration, Bill, 517 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: they wouldn't inspire you as much as they would put 518 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: the fear of God in you if you didn't make 519 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: them play. So that was the difference. But don't you 520 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: think that that teams that are successful you have to 521 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: have a collection of guys like that that are big personalities. Yes, 522 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: you do. And the fact that they were veterans, they 523 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: were already there, they had already gone through so much. 524 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: A couple of them had already been through more than 525 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: one Super Bowl. So yes, you had a lot of 526 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: people that you could look up to in regards to inspiration, 527 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: but it was up to you to find that inspiration. 528 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: They weren't going to throw it out there for you. 529 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Like I said, the inspiration they gave you came through 530 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: threats to your physical body. Well, and just think about 531 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: the wide receiving corps on that team, and it relates 532 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: to today's wide receivers. You know, when you got Drew Pearson, 533 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Tony Hill and Butch Johnson and your wide receiving cord, 534 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: they're not lacking for confidence, No, absolutely not. And and 535 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: and these top three guys, um and we'll see where 536 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb goes. I mean he's a rookie. But Gallop 537 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: uh and Marie Cooper I said last year, they're the 538 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: unwide receivers because they're very humble. Uh, they're not boisterous. 539 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Uh now they're they're confident in themselves, but they're not 540 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing with cowboy wide receivers. Yes, 541 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: I cannot compare those three guys to any of the 542 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: receivers that we've had going back to even Michael Irving. 543 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: But Drew Piers and Tony Hill and Buss Johnson you 544 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: have more in fighting than you did have. Uh you know, 545 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Coop by y'all moments, so to speak. So uh so 546 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: it was it was, it was, it was It was 547 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: lively for the reporters back then. All you had to 548 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: do was say one buzzword. You get him fired up, 549 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: and you have you have a story. They throwing Jay 550 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Saldi at tight end. He was the best interviews on 551 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: the team. He and Tony Dorset wasn't shy either. By 552 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: the way, Let's let's just keep going and keep I 553 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: keep bringing up I keep bringing up guys in that 554 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: quadrant where Everson Walls lived. Once they they moved out 555 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: to Valley Ranch. Hey, And one thing Ron Ron said 556 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: he wouldn't make it to Valley Ranch. He wasn't loud. 557 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: He said, I'll never make it to Valley rasum and 558 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: talking about and I thought this was interesting. Mike Nolan 559 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: did his interview yesterday and he was talking about Alden Smith. UH. 560 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: And one of the things UH, he pointed out, he 561 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: goes number one. I like Alden Smith's interaction with the 562 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: other players, to be honest with you, He's a he's 563 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: a team player. He's got a lot of personality. I 564 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: like the way he interacts with Demarrow Becas Lawrence and 565 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford with a number of guys. I see that 566 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: chemistry starting to build. UH and then Dak was asked 567 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: about Alden today as they asked him, you know, does 568 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: he look like a guy out there that hasn't played 569 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: in five years? And uh? And Dak Prescott said, he's 570 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: a man, he's a monster, and he damn sure doesn't 571 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: look like he hasn't played in five years. And he 572 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: had a really good day to day. He had pressure 573 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: on the pocket no matter who the quarterback was. And 574 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: once uh, you know there was no Tyrant Smith there. Oh. 575 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Those poor young guys, they're just there's how do I 576 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: say it lightly? They're learning a lot, okay? And how 577 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: about hey, hey, Mike McCarthy this morning, his first questions 578 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: about Alden Smith and they I remember exactly how it 579 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: was posed, But McCarthy's answer was, I think if anyone 580 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: sees him on the ractice field, there are good reaction 581 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: is going to be who's that number? Fifty eight? Yeah, 582 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: And so that that's what's kind of impression he's making 583 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: out there on the field. But that's what the Cowboys 584 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: need players like that, and especially in building that chemistry. 585 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: You got it. I mean, think of the Cowboys Super 586 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: Bowl teams of the nineties and the personalities you had 587 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: on that team, and that's what this defense that I 588 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: thought has always been lacking because everybody was kind of quiet, 589 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, nice guys, and it's like, yeah, you need 590 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: some rabble rousers out there. Uh you know this that 591 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: we're not in a choir here, so uh, you know, 592 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: I think that's good. And it sounds like some of 593 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: that is starting to build, and it's building, and yet 594 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: there's been minimal contact. So once the contact starts up, 595 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: we'll see a little bit more feistiness from some of 596 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: these guys. And I think you go ahead, Reverson. I 597 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say, let's let's put a little onnus on 598 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: the coaches as well. You know, Spage, you talk about 599 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: my Nolan. I think he's a very aggressive defensive coordinator, 600 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: and I think the Cowboys need that. I think his 601 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: defensive calls, I think the way he's going to use 602 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: his linebackers deceptively when it comes to blitzes h the 603 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: aggressiveness that he's gonna have with his upfront seven players, 604 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's really gonna bowld a lot. I think 605 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna lend a lot to the attitude that this 606 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: team has once they start really playing ball games and 607 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: hopefully they show the success with the potential that they have. 608 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: I think that is also going to be a good 609 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: thing for the Cowboys defensive front. It's going to allow aggression, 610 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: is going to allow, I think, for a lot of 611 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: turnovers because Mike Nolan has always used his linebackers in 612 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: a very effective blitz style, and I think that's going 613 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: to really open things up. It's like if you have 614 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: a good three point shooter, that three point shooter is 615 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: to open it up for the postman, uh down low. 616 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: I think these these blitzes coming from the linebackers, it's 617 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: going to open it up more for DeMarcus Lawrence, for 618 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Aldus Smith and players to use their aggression even more 619 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: than than they would so enormous circumstances, you know. And 620 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm giving away any secrets here, but 621 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's been talked about how Alden Smith has 622 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: been used on the right defensive end spot standing up 623 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: instead of being in a three point stance. And boy, 624 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: when he stands up, you think, well, if it's a 625 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: running play, he's he might be, you know, susceptible to 626 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: getting blocked, but his arms are so long, you know, 627 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: he can keep guys off them. Uh and uh, he's 628 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: been pretty effective over there. And I'll say it again, 629 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: especially when Tyrn Smith's not indicate well. And then how 630 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: about DeMarcus Lawrence uh standing him up some too, Yeah, 631 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: and uh and he's he hasn't done it quite as much. 632 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: And again, you know, the last time I saw this 633 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: take place, uh, you know, when they kind of went 634 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: to the three four with Bill and DeMarcus where was 635 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: standing up? And then I saw DeMarcus Ware back pedaling 636 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: in coverage And It's like, I don't want to see 637 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: DeMarcus ware going backwards. I want them going forward, right. Uh. 638 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: And so I'll be interested to see if they if 639 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: they get into any of those schemes. You know, are 640 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: you going to use those guys in coverage because they're 641 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: basically you're outside linebacker. Uh. So that'll be interesting to 642 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: see how they do that because I'll guarantee you DeMarcus 643 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: Lawrence hasn't had to drop off the line of scrimmage 644 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: much and cover anybody. Yeah. One of the things when 645 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: you stand up a DeMarcus Lawrence or Alden Smith or 646 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin for that matter, h you can you can 647 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: do some things to find mismatches on your pass rush 648 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: where they can go inside as well. If you go 649 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: back and look at the Saints last year, they did 650 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that on their in their front four 651 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: where they moved guys around, and there were multiple in 652 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: that respect. Of course, Nolan wasn't the DC there in 653 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans last year as the linebackers coach, but I 654 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: think some of those concepts, I think you can see 655 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: him employing that which we haven't seen as much of 656 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: here in Dallas over the years. And you know why, 657 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: from the predictability Bill. That's what we were for the 658 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: last few years. I think that's been our weakness. We've 659 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: been happy to come out and show the offense just 660 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: exactly what we're doing. We lined up the same way 661 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: all the time, I don't care if it was a 662 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: two minute drill or if it was the beginning of 663 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: the game. And I thought that that led us to 664 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of disadvantages, and that's why we were always 665 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: so predictable as far as not getting turnovers as well. 666 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: The offense is always gonna know where you are. There 667 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: were no surprises. We just started putting in the blitzes 668 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: really last year when the new defensive coach came in 669 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: and those are the things that you just can't waste 670 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: a play in that regard to me, that's called that's 671 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: just taking a play for granted, you can't. You should 672 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: always be able to show a change up in what 673 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: you do. You have to mentally keep your offense off 674 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: guard when it comes to how good they are at 675 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: this time in football, offenses are so explosive, so defensively, 676 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of where you are strong, 677 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: and if that has to be a little bit of 678 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: misdirection coming from your defensive coordinator and from your staff, 679 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: then that needs to be used. We have sorely missed 680 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: that the last few years here with the Cowboys. All right, 681 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: when we continue here on mix Shots, there's so much 682 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: more to get into. 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Bill Jones with 727 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, who is experiencing some technical difficulties right now, 728 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: I understand, and Everson Walls. We are streaming live on 729 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: Periscope as well. Take you to the top of the 730 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: hour and leading up to the start of the regular season. 731 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: Will be here on a weekly basis on Thursdays at 732 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: eleven am. And Cowboys practice again tomorrow, take Saturday off 733 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: in three straight practices Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, and we're 734 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: now just over three weeks away from the start of 735 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: the regular season. That regular season is going to be 736 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: here before you know it. When the Cowboys play September thirteenth, 737 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: a Sunday night game at the Los Angeles Rams, and 738 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: the first home game the following Sunday on September twentieth 739 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Falcons. Everson, are you there, I'm here, 740 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: You are there. Okay, you're echoing in my ear, but 741 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: you are there everywhere. Let me ask you about the 742 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and Trayvon Diggs has been worked in a little 743 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: bit throughout the first week. We'll get more on that 744 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: from Mickey when he gets re established here. But what 745 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: are you hoping to see a merge out of this 746 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: training camp at the cornerback position. Well, I hope they 747 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 1: have a a guy that they can they can depend 748 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: on them. I hope they have someone that they can 749 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: I can make some plays for us. Uh, someone that 750 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: we can keep up with the athleticism, because we always 751 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: have athletic cornerbacks and that's what I like about. But 752 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: I want someone that can make the plays that need 753 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: to be made. When you start talking about our secondary 754 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: we were reactionary. We didn't anticipate anything. And that's the 755 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: problems that you have with a lot of just so 756 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: so uh defensive backfields. You have to be as a unit. 757 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: You have to have a culture there that can be 758 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: smart and anticipate the plays that they're coming your way. 759 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't care how good an offense is. Each one 760 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: of them falls into a pattern, and you have to 761 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: as a defensive back be smart enough to find that pattern. 762 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: That's what Charlie Waters and then this Terman did for me. 763 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 1: They showed me how to study my opposition and so 764 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: that way I wouldn't be reactionary. I can anticipate what 765 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: was gonna come my way. Those interceptions, some of those 766 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: interceptions weren't just about athletic ability that I made back 767 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: in the day those interceptions was because I studied and 768 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: because I had good study partners, people that showed me 769 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: how to prepare for big time ball games and play 770 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: against big time wide receivers. So not only are you 771 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: studying the formations and the tendencies offensively, you're also studying 772 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: your opponent, that single wide receiver that you're going against. 773 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think that we've been doing that in 774 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: the past. Hopefully they can change that culture here back 775 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: to the way it was, to where we understood exactly 776 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: what the offense was trying to do to us and 777 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: how this particular wide receivers trying to set us up. 778 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: Trey Von Digg seems to be a guy that can 779 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: figure that out. Hopefully he can do it on this 780 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 1: next level as well, because he did it well in college. 781 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 1: And you've got other defensive backs back there, such as 782 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: how High Clinton Dix, who can be that anchor for 783 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: you at a safety position and protect those corners and 784 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: make sure that they have confidence in their safeties the 785 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: way I had confidence in guys like Desta Cleiscale, Michael Downs, 786 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: and Charlie Waters. I think you know, guys, can you 787 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: hear me. Yeah, yes, it looks like you're back now, 788 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, Mickey, we got to give some credit to 789 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: Everson here to pull back the curtain a little bit. 790 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, we were discovering that if you open up 791 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: another one of these little WebEx windows, it creates an 792 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: echo effect in our ears that makes it sound like 793 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: that you are speaking on a public address system at 794 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: a stadium, where you're get hearing your own voice back 795 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: and forth. And so Everson when he went through that 796 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: whole little salute lakoi there, he was hearing himself for 797 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: the first whole minute or so of that. But he 798 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: fought through it, and he made it through it, and 799 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: he delivered. He came through in the crunch. So kudos 800 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: to you ever send for fight. Thank you, Thank you. 801 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: I thought I sounded like I sounded like God for 802 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 1: a minute there sounded like Louis Garrett giving his rep Yes, 803 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: the luckiest man in the world, world, world, He's the 804 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: luckiest man on the face of the earth. And we 805 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: are we are so lucky that we do not have 806 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: that in our ears. Now, all right, Micky, what have 807 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: you seen in our last few minutes? I want to 808 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: give you. Yeah, we'll give Chris being being some props 809 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: there for getting that out of our ears too. Mickey, 810 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: I want to give you an opportunity to talk about 811 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: some of the guys that you've seen through this first 812 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: week of training camp practices that have caught your eye. 813 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: Where would you start, Well, you know, you guys were 814 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: talking about the cornerback position, and they've been rotating them 815 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: guys through, even on the first team. You know, they 816 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: normally if if Jordan Lewis was out there, you know, uh, 817 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, between a Woozier Brown Lewis digs uh worli uh. 818 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: Those guys have been rotating through quite a bit. Uh 819 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: and and and even in the secondary you know, they're 820 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: given the young guys chance back there. Uh So they 821 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: they've they've been kind of changing it up quite a bit. 822 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: So it's really hard to say, Okay, this guy's first team, 823 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: this guy's second team. I don't think that's happened so far. 824 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: Who's caught my eye overall? Um? You know, we know 825 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: about Gallup, we know about Amari Cooper, Ceedee Lamb just 826 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: plays this game so effortlessly. You know, we were watching 827 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 1: them catch punts as we were leaving after the practice, finished, 828 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: and the guys stay out there and do a little extra. 829 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: And I wrote in Mick Shots yesterday, it's like if 830 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,280 Speaker 1: you know the expression in baseball catching a can of corn, 831 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, and that that started. That expression started with 832 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: the old grocery stores when they used to have the 833 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: cans up high and they would have a pole and 834 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 1: they would pull the can down and you would catch 835 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: it right and put it on the shelf. Well, it's 836 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: he catches punts just like that, like it's soft tossed. 837 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: And the other day they were doing a drill where 838 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: it was a punt. They were catching punts. But what 839 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: Fossil was having them do this new special team's coach 840 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: is you you stand and it was off the judge machine. 841 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: So you stand with your back towards the judge machine 842 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: and they fire it off and when the ball hits 843 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 1: its apex, he yells turn and you got to turn 844 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: around find the ball. And this is indoors, so it's 845 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: you're looking up in that roof. It's hard to find it, 846 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: and then you got to catch it right. He was 847 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: doing it like he'd been doing it in his whole career. 848 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: It's just to me, no stutter steps, just standing there, 849 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: boot catches him. So it'll be interesting to see, you know, 850 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: if he plays so much offensively, will he be okay 851 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: to also returned punts. Cedric Wilson's not bad at it either, 852 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: but CD just does it so so efforts lead it amazing. Mickey, 853 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: let me let me throw in something about CD that 854 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: I saw in person. It was at the Cotton Bowl 855 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: last October, and one of his three touchdown passes in 856 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: that game. He had an incredible game. Texas wins that game. 857 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: If CD Lamb's not on the field for ou, I mean, 858 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: he just took over that game. But there's one play 859 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: in particular, well, I believe it was a flea flicker 860 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: and he's down the right sideline about twenty five thirty 861 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: yards downfield, fairly deep pass, but it was a flee 862 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: flicker and Jalen Hurts just sort of heaved it high 863 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: in the air. CD sees the ball, the traject the 864 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: trajectory of the ball, which is almost he threw it 865 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: so high it was almost like a punt. And I'm 866 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: watching Cede Lamb. I had a fifty yard line seat, Okay, 867 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,479 Speaker 1: so I'm watching Cede Lamb and he took his eye 868 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: off the ball as it was in midflight and surveyed 869 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: where the secondary was and then he reached and then 870 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: he looks back up, makes the catch, and then made 871 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: his way through five defenders for the final twenty five 872 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: yards all the way to the end zone. It was 873 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: one of the most remarkable things I've seen on a 874 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 1: football field. But it illustrates exactly what you're talking about, 875 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: just the natural instincts that he has and the confidence 876 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: that he has, the field presence that he has. That 877 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: was remarkable. I think that, well, yeah, I love the 878 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: way that Bill likes to show off his Oklahoma affiliation. 879 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 1: Nice to know that they give you fifty yard line seats. 880 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to play with you. I'm going to 881 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 1: the game with you next time, Bill, because I'm I'm 882 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: an old You fan myself. But it changes everything when 883 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: you have the ability to do something that no one 884 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: else knows how to do and you work on it 885 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: so well, it does make you stand out. Bill. Uh. 886 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: When my dad taught me how to catch a ball, 887 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: when he when he taught me the mechanics of how 888 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: to follow a ball in the air, I didn't know 889 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: how unique that would make me as a player. Ceedee Lamb. 890 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: He does things like we talk about Beckham does all 891 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: the time. The one hand that catches that makes you 892 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: an extremely special person. But as far as I'm concerned, 893 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: if you can do all of that, I would love 894 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: it if you would just be consistent in what you do, 895 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: uh no passes, no mistakes, not taking your basic fundamental 896 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: talents for granted. And to me, that would really show 897 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: me just what a good a player he is, because 898 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: there are times when yes, those those amazing plays are 899 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to have to happen. But just show me 900 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: some consistency day in and day out. To me, that's 901 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: more impressive. When you talk about Amari Cooper, I'm sure 902 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: he can do all those things that Ceedee Lamb can do, 903 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: let's be real, but he chooses not to because he's 904 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: always so consistently good at being the fundamental player that 905 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: he is. You show me fundamentals day in and day out, 906 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: and success at that. To me, that impresses me more. 907 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: Even though I do love seeing those plays by Ceedee Lamb, 908 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: especially being an OI fan. Well, in that play that 909 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: CD made it that I was talking about it, I 910 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: mean that he I don't he doesn't make he doesn't 911 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: have the run after catch on that play if he 912 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't do what he did there. So I think it 913 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,479 Speaker 1: was fundamental to him making that play too. It wasn't 914 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: he wasn't showing off doing it. He was just that 915 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: was But he has that the natural instincts and so forth, 916 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: that he's confident that, Okay, I can go ahead and 917 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: catch that ball, I can take my offer and read 918 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: the defense and didn't go back to it. It was 919 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: it was something else. I think. I think the difference 920 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: is the differences Now you're going to have players, You're 921 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 1: going to have defensive players that are going to react 922 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: a little bit better to that. So right, how he 923 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: going to react to the level of play heightening for him? 924 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how he adjusted that, and 925 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: I think he'll do well. Bill Truck I'm a fan 926 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: of his, I am, but it's not gonna be as 927 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna be as easy going against 928 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: some some big twelve dbs versus going against some big 929 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: time dbs in the NFL. And build a couple other 930 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: quick observations. I see why Andy Dalton's been a nine 931 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: year starter in the league. He's abay accurate throwing the football, 932 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: and I think that has stood out, and that stood 933 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: out yesterday with Dak. I thought he had one of 934 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: his best days. The ball in individual drills or team 935 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: drills was not hitting the ground. He had a really, 936 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: really good day. And then this one kind of you know, 937 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: we talked to John Fossil yesterday and I kind of 938 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: asked him, you know, you you cut Kai for bath, 939 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: you know what went into that decision not to have 940 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: any kicking competition in training camp? And he basically kind 941 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: of got away from where I was going and said, well, 942 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: we had to get to eighty, so we cut the 943 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: other deep snapper and we cut the other kicker. Well, 944 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: finally somebody pinned him down and said, well, have you 945 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: diagnosed what went wrong with Greg Zurline last year when 946 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: his field goal percentage dropped to seventy two percent, which 947 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: I think was the lowest of his career. And he said, yeah, 948 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: I diagnosed he had a bad groin stream and he said, 949 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: all we were doing during the week the last six 950 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: to eight weeks of the season, we weren't kicking him 951 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: to try to get him through, and so it was 952 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: affecting his swing. So he said he's got all the 953 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: confidence in the world that they will get the Greg 954 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: zur Line that he'd seen the last eight years while 955 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: they were together with the Rams. Well, we've only seen 956 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: him in practice kick twice, and the first time we 957 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: saw him kick he went six for six, and today 958 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: between thirty three and forty four yards he went six 959 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: for six. So Fossil basically was saying, I guarantee you 960 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the top, if not 961 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: top kickers in the NFL this year for the next 962 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of years for the Cowboys now that he's over 963 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: the groin strain that really hampered his swing last year. 964 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: So that Park stepped out because I thought we were 965 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 1: going to be charting field goals all training camp. Hey, hey, Fossil, 966 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: Fossil knew what he had in Zerline's When zer Line 967 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: came into the league in twenty twelve, John Fossil was 968 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: his special team's coach with the Rams, and he's been 969 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: there all the way, and you know, it was a 970 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: priority for a Fossil when the free agency started, that 971 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: we've got to sign to Greg Zerline, who's the only 972 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: other kicker that John Fossil has had in this league 973 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: as a special teams coordinator he was with the Rams, 974 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: and prior to that, he was the Raiders special teams 975 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: coach and his kicker those four years in Oakland with 976 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: Sebastian Janikowski. He's had two kickers in his time as 977 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: a special team's coach, Janikowski and Zerlin. And that will 978 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: continue this year. Yeah, and uh and so that that 979 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: that's uh stood out. And one thing, you know, we 980 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of anticipation that Trayvon 981 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Diggs was going to be a step in starter well 982 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: as as a rookie. He looked like a rookie for 983 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: a few practices so far. He's got he's got a 984 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: ways to go to beat out the veterans. Let's just 985 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: put it. And it's not a bad thing. I think 986 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: it's more of a recognition thing and understanding. As as 987 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Everson said about Cedee Lamb, you know he's not going 988 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: to be going up against big twelve corners. Well, Trayvon's 989 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: not going up against wide receivers that he saw in college. 990 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: These guys are big time players, sou but they're working 991 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: them in and they're giving them opportunities. I like that 992 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: they're given. Uh. Reggie Robinson opportunities. Uh so that that 993 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: that that was a good thing. And one other guy 994 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that I wanted to point out that is getting opportunities 995 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: back there as they haven't forgotten about Donovan Wilson, the 996 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: safety that had a really good training camp last year 997 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and then he kind of faded away once the season started. 998 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: He's getting opportunities back there also at the safety position. 999 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: He made a lot of turnovers last year for the 1000 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: short minute amount of time that he was exposed. All Right, 1001 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I think we're out of time on this edition of 1002 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Mix Shots. Next week, Everson, I want you to tell 1003 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: us a story of how you gave an indoctrination to 1004 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin when Irvin came into the league. Irvin interviewed 1005 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: CD Lamb earlier this week on NFL Network and he 1006 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: was talking about the schooling that Everson Walls gave him 1007 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: in one of his first practices, and I don't know 1008 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: if you remember that or not, but next week I 1009 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 1: want to hear that story. All right, it was several days, 1010 01:01:54,080 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: so I'll pick one out. Okay, that does it for 1011 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Mixed Shots for this week, and we will see you 1012 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: again next Thursday at eleven am. Have a great week. Everybody. 1013 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1014 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.