1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to you a little bit now 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: about the situation in Israel, It's war against Tamas, and 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: also the surge in anti Semitism here at home. All 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: of this tied in together. First off, over there, what's 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: going on in the conflict zone, more air strikes, more 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Israeli forces moving into Gaza, and Prime Minister Benjamin n 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Yahuo has indicated that Israel is going to be playing 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: an indefinite role in securing Gaza to prevent future attacks 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: like this. So I could foresee in my mind that 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: I think I said this on the show a few 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: weeks ago, something like a to militarized zone or an 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: area of broader separation between Gaza and Israel that would 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: be policed and effectively an expansion, a pretty dramatic expansion 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: of the security barrier that already exists with probably some 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Israeli forward operating bases to monitor the situation and prevent 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: something like this from ever happening again, that's my sense 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 2: of it. And they're going to try to broker some 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: sort of agreement down the line for what the governance 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: of gods it will be. No one really seems to 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: have a clear sense of that quite yet. The conflict 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: is still ongoing. And then bringing it home here for 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: a moment, a elderly Jewish man in California has died 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: after he was hit on the head during a by 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: a pro Palestinian protester during an altercation out in Los Angeles. 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: This is in a one thousand oaks in LA and 29 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles area. And you know, this is a 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: moment where a lot of people I think are first 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: of all, I mean, you know, tragedy, senseless, awful, you know, 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: to strike somebody at a protest like this, an elderly man, 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: elder abuse. This man has now died. You know, this 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: guy is going to be facing a lengthy prison sentence 35 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: for this. And what you've seen, Clay is the Jewish people, 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: you know, Israel and the Jewish people both there and 37 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: around the world, have been the They were the victims 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: of a mass casualty terror attack. And this has coincided, 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: or rather in the aftermath of this, there's been this 40 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: dramatic expansion of anger, hatred, and anti Semitism that has 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: broken out, and you have all of these individuals who 42 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: are not only taking a pro Palestinian, but an openly 43 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: pro Hamas point of view. At this point in time, 44 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: it is so shocking to the conscience of reasonable people 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: that even some who are on the left are beginning 46 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: to call this out and speak honestly and truthfully about Israel. 47 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: This was Bill Maher on his show on Friday, speaking 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: some truth about Israel and this whole situation. 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Play a team for all. 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: The progressives and academics who refer to Israel as an 51 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: outpost of Western civilization like it's a bad thing. Please note, 52 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: Western civilization is what gave the world pretty much every 53 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: damn liberal precept that liberals are supposed to adore, individual liberty, 54 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: scientific inquiry, rule of law, religious freedom, women's rights, human rights, democracy, 55 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: trial by jury, freedom of speech. And since one can 56 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: find all these concepts in today's Israel and virtually nowhere 57 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: else in the Middle East, if anything, the world would 58 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: be better placed if it had more Israel's. Of course, 59 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: this message falls on deaf ears to the current crop 60 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: who reduce everything to being only victims or victimizers. So 61 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: Israel is lumped in as the toxic fruit of the 62 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: victimizing West, the irony being that all marginalized people live 63 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: better today because of Western ideals, not in spite of them. 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: And yet we have so many in this country clay 65 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: on the left pretending that Israel is the regressive and 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: bad place and somehow Gaza run by a terrorist organization 67 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: that I'm pretty sure isn't good on trans rites, I'll 68 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: just put that out there. 69 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: No criticism for them whatsoever. 70 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: I give credit to Bill Maher here because we do 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: need a robust defense of Western civilization and the incredible 72 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: irony of people in countries made possible because of Western 73 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: civilization using all of the successes of Western civilization free 74 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: speech paramount among them to advocate for regressive regimes that 75 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: would not allow them to live the way that they 76 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: live here is so manifestly difficult, I think for people 77 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to understand that it has forced many people out there, 78 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: not just Jewish people, but many people who vote on 79 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: the left, I think to have a red pill moment. 80 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: And let me just mention this to Buck. The power 81 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: in the media is what they cover and what stories 82 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: they allow to become prominent narrative devices. The Nashville Manifesto. 83 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday, not covered essentially by the 84 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: New York Times, by the Washington Post, by CNN or MSNBC. 85 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: The murder of that Jewish protester that you started off 86 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: this hour talking about, by and large, has not been 87 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: talked about or touched on as a severe issue. Think 88 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: about and compare the way the murder of that one 89 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: woman in Charlottesville was covered as a symptom of the 90 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: danger of far right maga extra in this country and 91 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: of the rabid anti Semitism that supposedly undergirded much of 92 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump support tree. We'll talk about this to 93 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Reeven Force. We're gonna be with Donald Trump tomorrow. Donald 94 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Trump has a lot of Jewish grandsons and granddaughters. 95 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: Now, well, he's got a daughter who's Jewish, law who's Jewish, 96 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: and grandchildren who are Jewish. 97 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: So I would imagine, and we'll ask this of Trump himself. 98 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: I would imagine if you're a grandfather and you see 99 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: people all over Israel being murdered because they're Jewish, and 100 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: you have Jewish grandchildren, that's a jarring moment for you. 101 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Because all of you out there that have grandchildren too, 102 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: and certainly all of you who are parents know that 103 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: your love for your kids and grandkids is to many, 104 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: to a large degree, what defines you as an individual. 105 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Think about how that Charlottesville incident was covered and a 106 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: direct murder of a Jewish protester based on what I 107 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: saw was that they have already done an autopsy and 108 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: determined that he died based on that attack, and that. 109 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: There will be charges. 110 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: It's a homicide. It's a homicide of some sort. Will 111 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: it be manslaughter, will it be second degree murder? Who 112 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: knows exactly what the charges will be. But you combine 113 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that with the release yesterday of the Nashville Manifesto, neither 114 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: of those stories if you don't and this is what 115 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: we were just talking about, Ron McDaniel, and I don't 116 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: know that I agree with giving NBC the debate, but 117 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I do know that there are a lot of people 118 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: out there, reasonable decent people who rely on the media 119 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: to bring them the news, that don't know anything about 120 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: the murder of that Jewish person, that don't know anything 121 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: about the Nashville Manifesto because the media that they consume 122 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: doesn't tell them that story. 123 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and this is a huge advantage that 124 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Democrats have in whether it's just broad messaging on issues 125 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: or even going into elections, which is the fire hose 126 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: of not just falsehood, but the ability which is a 127 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: part of it, the propaganda. But as we've often discussed, 128 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: the decision to what to cover and what not to 129 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: covers in many ways the most potent and powerful editorial 130 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: decision that any news organization makes. Right, what do you 131 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: if you don't spend any time on something that says 132 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: a lot, especially if it's something that is clearly newsworthy. 133 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: You probably saw this to clay a lot of passive 134 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: voice after this elderly Jewish man died after being attacked 135 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: a lot of you know, confrontation with protesters leads to 136 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: a man losing his Life's like, no, some pro hamas 137 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 2: maniac hid an elderly man who was waving a Jewish 138 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: flag over the head and killed him. Yes, that is 139 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: actually those are the facts of the story as we 140 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: know them right now. That is what is reported, But 141 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: that's not the way that they were presenting it. I 142 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: would say, you know, even you know, some the Bide 143 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: administration knows they've got a problem here. National Security Council 144 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: spokesman John Kirby was willing to say that it was 145 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: irresponsible for Rashida to leave, to say that the Biden administration, 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: not just Israel, the Biden administration is supporting this is 147 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: cut twenty supporting genocide. 148 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: Play was that the administration was supporting genocide. 149 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: Well, of course we're not doing that. And and what 150 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 6: is happening in Gaza. Again, as terrible as all these 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 6: civilian casualties are, and we know there's many, many thousands 152 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 6: of them, we don't want there to be any I 153 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 6: don't want to minimize. 154 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: That at all. 155 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 6: But you can't look at what is happening in Gaza 156 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 6: and say that it fits the definition of genocide. And 157 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: clearly we don't agree with that, with that description. We 158 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 6: think that is an irresponsible way of describing this. We 159 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: don't associate ourselves with that, and that is not in 160 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 6: our view. That is not what is happening here. 161 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it is not what I 162 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: don't think I say. In our view, it is not 163 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 2: what's happening. But Clay, there's also something particularly morally repugnant 164 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: about the let's be honest, the enemies of the State 165 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: of Israel and the enemies of a Jewish homeland, referring 166 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: to Israeli genocide in Gaza. I mean, genocide is what. 167 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: But the Jewish people suffered at the hands of the 168 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: Nazi regime in World War Two at Auschwitz and Buchenwalden, 169 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Dachau and the death camps. That's a genocide. Taking your 170 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: military and having airstrikes on a terrorist entity that has 171 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: just killed fourteen hundred of your people after many, many 172 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: years of peace negotiations and offers and everything else, and 173 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: using your military in defense of yourself and your people, 174 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: that is not a genocide. 175 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: It is a just war. 176 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Is it is on the far extreme other side of 177 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: USA force genocide would be the most abhorrent and morally 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: repugnant use of force imaginable. Israel is fighting a just 179 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: war in Gaza, but this administration won't really say that 180 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: they have to leave open as well. We don't want 181 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: them to be too rough, you know, Geneva conventions. 182 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: That's why they're trying to triangulate it. 183 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: Because this is politically unstable, because it blows up the 184 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: Democrat parties left wing agenda, and I don't know what 185 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Neil Cavudo on Fox News followed up with John Kirby 186 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: about But the question that I think has to be 187 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: asked is do you think Rashida's lieb should still be 188 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: representing her district because there are going to be a 189 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: lot of primary challenges now and I'm curious whether Joe 190 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Biden is going to be forced to weigh in on 191 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: that because a couple of things. One, Fox News viewership 192 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: is skyrocketing among jew Jewish Americans. There's actually an article 193 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: in it about The New York Times about the number 194 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: of people that are turning it on, and I think 195 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of those Jewish otherwise Democrat voters are watching 196 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Fox News and they're going to say, you know what, 197 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: all of the caricatures that are out there about Fox News, 198 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: my goodness, they're doing the best job of covering anything 199 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: coming out of Israel right now. Second part of this, again, 200 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: they're trying to triangulate it. They're calling for a pause 201 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: now in the Biden administration because it's a midway point 202 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: between a ceasefire, which is what left wing pro Palestinian 203 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: advocates are demanding, and it's not the full throated defense 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: that Israeli advocates are defending. So they're trying to say 205 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: that they want to pause, which is, you know, a 206 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: resumption and theory of activities could occur, but it's somewhere 207 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: between both. 208 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. 209 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: You can't third weigh yourself in this situation. And I 210 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: think the strident moral authority here that has played very 211 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: much in the Republican camp is Israel is not the aggressor. 212 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: They were attacked. To your position, this is far from genocide. 213 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: They're innocent victims and they're now trying to ensure that 214 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: they will never have this happen to them again by 215 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: eradicating the power of. 216 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: Hamas to ever do this again. 217 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: And so I don't see any way that you can 218 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: middle ground this if you're Joe Biden, and I think 219 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: increasingly he's recognizing it now. The challenge of the identity 220 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: politics of the Democrat Party is if you can't third 221 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: way it, you probably can't win the election. 222 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I was gonna say. Is following 223 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: on that, notice how and certainly Jewish Americans have noticed this. 224 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: I think in large numbers on the right, there's no 225 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: room for Hamas love correct, This doesn't this isn't a thing. 226 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Who's the Republican member of Congress, right now who's saying, 227 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, Hamas legitimate resistance organization. Hamas, you know, really 228 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: isn't as bad as it's being portrayed to beer. It 229 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: doesn't exist, correct, doesn't exist. You know, find me a 230 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: Republican government, Republican member of Congress who is taking these 231 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: positions because there is no home for soft pedaling or 232 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: in any way trying to mitigate the horrificness of what 233 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: Hamas just did. 234 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: On the right. 235 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,479 Speaker 2: On the left, there's a lot of it. Yes, it's commonplace, 236 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: and this distinction is playing out in a way. I mean, 237 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: I think Bill Maher, who is an absolutely a Democrat, 238 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: even though he says some things sometimes that are sensible, 239 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: even on the right, I think you recognizes this is 240 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: the problem for his party. This is a problem going 241 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: into an election year or on election day now, but 242 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: much bigger election next year. So we'll continue to follow 243 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: this one. 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I saw a quote 268 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: that is an all timer that was shared earlier today 269 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Riley Gains works it out kick Now she's doing tremendous 270 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: work helping to advocate for a crazy idea that is 271 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that women sports should be made up of women. 272 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: This morning, Riley shared an interview. 273 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have got the audio of this, 274 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: but I don't even know that we need it. We do, 275 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: we do have the audio. Okay, listen to this. This 276 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: is a woman named a man named well. 277 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: We'll just talk about this in a moment. 278 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Castor Semenyah, listen to this quote cut one. 279 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 7: In the medical Thames. What they tell me my testosterone, 280 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 7: you know, being born you know without the utral as 281 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 7: you know, being born with internal testicles, those don't make 282 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 7: me less a woman. Is just the differences that I 283 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 7: was born with and I embrace them. 284 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: My testicles don't make me less of a woman. Is 285 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: a tough argument to make. Castor Semenya is a really 286 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: more of a man than a woman, but sort of 287 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: in between in some ways. Dominant women's athlete. I believe 288 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: from South Africa, and this is emblematic of the world 289 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: in which we live, where many people out there and 290 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: We were talking about this earlier this morning, Buck when 291 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,479 Speaker 1: when this story Riley shared it and started. 292 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: To go viral. 293 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: The number of people who won't say that there's a 294 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: difference between men and women, or that you can't suddenly 295 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: decide that you're a woman even if you have male 296 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: genitals is crazy. 297 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 8: Yeah. 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm pretty confident that that it does 299 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: make it more difficult for you to be a woman 300 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: if you have testicles. I mean, I'm not a biologist, 301 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: but I do think that there are some things that 302 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: we can all tell. Is this castors menie a person 303 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: who is intersex, because this is always interesting. Sometimes people 304 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: will bring this up in the context of the transgender debate, 305 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: except transgenderism has nothing to do with physical characteristics, right, 306 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: so this would be the biological anomaly of somebody who 307 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 2: has some sex organs from both which intersects. There used 308 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: to be a different term to use for it, but 309 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: if you look at castor semenia, this is somebody who 310 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: no uterists and has testicles, so and has male testosterone. 311 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: Level and you heard that voice, and you heard the voice, 312 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: so does not test because of the male testosterone level 313 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: to qualify as a woman. For purposes of the Olympics, 314 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: and so yeah, this is crazy. 315 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: If you have money riding on the AI boom in 316 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: the markets, I encourage you to listen to the advice 317 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: of someone that I trust a lot, my dad, Mason Sexton. 318 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: For years, he's been following the markets and calling out predictions. 319 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: One of them is the nineteen eighty seven market crash. 320 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: Almost to the day later he called the exact bottom 321 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: of the COVID crash, and last year he called the 322 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: top of the market. Earlier this year, he went live 323 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: with his first major prediction in decades. 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The website is the second Insight 333 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three dot com to sign up for free. 334 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: That's the second insight twenty twenty three dot com I 335 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: even wanted very well, my new taradigmy were there and. 336 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: You listen and you see what scanning this is. This 337 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 8: is a case that you have never been brought. It's 338 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 8: the case that you dismissed immedia that the fraud was 339 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 8: under airport before. The fourth was the fraud story. This 340 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 8: says they made references to assets that were very valuable, 341 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 8: and they said they had no idea, they had no 342 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 8: idea what the numbers were when they said eighteen million 343 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 8: dollars from mar A Lanca and it's fifty f one 344 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 8: hundred times that amount by any estimation. It's a terrible 345 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 8: thing was happening here. 346 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: It's a scamp and this is a case that should 347 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: have never. 348 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 8: Been brought, and it's a case. 349 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: That naturally be dismissed. 350 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: A case that should be dismissed. That was President from 351 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: outside of his civil trial in New York City, brought 352 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: by New York Attorney General Letitia James. This is among 353 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: the most obvious of the political targetings that he faces, 354 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: or maybe the most overt, the most blatant, because the 355 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: age Latsia James ran for her job as Attorney General 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: of New York, saying she was going to get Trump. 357 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be able to do this. You're 358 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: not supposed to say I'm going to become the top 359 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: law enforcement official and then I'm going to get somebody 360 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: that you don't like, who's a politician that represents interest 361 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: that I disagree with. But this is where we are. 362 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: But I will say this was also interesting to me. 363 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: Jonathan Turley here, the constitutional law scholar, saying that this 364 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: case is created, this is Cut twelve uniquely for Trump 365 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: because it crosses the line from law to entertainment. 366 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: Play it well. 367 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 9: I could find no case anywhere like this, And part 368 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 9: of the problem is the underlying law, which doesn't require 369 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 9: any victim. It doesn't require anyone to lose money. You know, 370 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 9: the banks were not complaining. They apparently made my me 371 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 9: but that doesn't matter. And a lot of New Yorkers 372 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 9: love it. You know, this crosses the line from law 373 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 9: to entertainment. But it should be concerning for people because 374 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 9: it does appear that this is a case uniquely created 375 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 9: for Trump under a law that hasn't been used in 376 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 9: this same way against others. 377 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, Clay, this is this is really the heart 378 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: of it, not just with the civil travel, with all 379 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: of the legal assaults on Trump. They're on such a 380 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: flimsy pretext. And one of the things you keep running 381 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: up against is, you know, there should if you're willing 382 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: to take someone, if you're willing to destroy someone's reputation. 383 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: They're not going to bankrupt Trump, but you know other 384 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: people be bankrupted by a federal criminal trial. You're willing to, 385 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, theoretically bankrupt somebody and take away their freedom 386 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: and destroy their reputation and perhaps ruin their lives. There 387 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: should be a victim right, that there should be a 388 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: harm that we are concerned with. And I mean, I 389 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: know there is a civil trial, but in some of 390 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: these other cases, you know, the Rico case in Georgia, 391 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: no one's harmed by any of this. I mean, they're 392 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: trying to throw this guy in prison, at least theoretically, 393 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: and we're all studing around saying. 394 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: Who's the victim in this? 395 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I think the Supreme Court there's an old legal aphorism 396 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: tough cases make bad law, and I think if you 397 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: look at this from the Democrat perspective, Trump is a 398 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: tough case that they have as a result, tried to 399 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: make bad law around and I don't know. We talked 400 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: about this yesterday with Andy McCarthy buck. I don't know 401 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court is going to ultimately decide, but 402 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: many of these cases should end up on their doorstep, 403 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: and increasingly I'm of the opinion that the Supreme Court 404 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: is probably hoping that the election can happen without them 405 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: having to resolve any of these cases, and after the 406 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election when the politics are because remember, 407 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: if Trump wins, then, despite the fevered dreams of people 408 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: on the view, I don't think he's going to somehow 409 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: try and change the Constitution so that he doesn't have 410 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: to step down at the end of his term in 411 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. 412 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: I think the. 413 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: Supreme Court needs to set very important precedent about not 414 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: allowing what has happened to Trump to ever happen again. 415 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: And I give credit to Alan Dershowitz on this front, 416 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: because he is a liberal lawyer who has recognized that 417 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: what Democrats are doing to Trump is far more dangerous 418 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: than anything Trump could ever do. And if you do 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: not stand on the principle that we cannot allow the 420 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: chief political adversary of a political candidate to be trying 421 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: to put his opponent in prison for the rest of 422 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: his life. That is as we've talked about on this 423 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: show of crossing the Rubicon moment. And I think we 424 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: need to have more stringent protections from a allowing situations 425 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: like this to emerge in the future. 426 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: And let me give you an example of this book, 427 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: and I think it's true. 428 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Scalia wrote a really important dissent 429 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: and I don't remember it was the Bill Clinton case, 430 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: basically saying, if we allow all of these civil cases 431 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: to proceed, then effectively what we're going to do is 432 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: unlock perpetual law fair against political candidates and whatever you think. 433 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: I think it's very important to stand on principle, which 434 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: is why I'm citing Scalia here. The court system has 435 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: been used, and you've said this before, and I think 436 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the process is the punishment. I mean, I'm going to 437 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: sit through this with my irs thing. I mean, I 438 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: believe in people out there who don't know. I was 439 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: told when you and I took over this show in 440 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you're going to get audited every tax return. 441 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: When there's a Democrat in office, get ready for it. 442 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: Never been audited before. 443 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: Boom. 444 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I just got a note that I'm being audited for 445 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: my tax return in twenty twenty one, the first year 446 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: that I did this show. I did sports talk radio 447 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. I ran a media company, never 448 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: had an audit. Now suddenly I've got an audit. I'm 449 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: going to probably have to spend one hundred, probably several 450 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to fight this IRS audit. The process 451 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: is the punishment, and a lot of people out there, 452 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, a part of me thinks, buck, if you 453 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: get audited by the IRS and it turns out that 454 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: your taxes are fine, then the IRS should have to 455 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: pay all my legal fees, or all of your legal 456 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: fees out there, or all of your accounting fees, because 457 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is create a process by 458 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: which they can try to put you under the microscope, 459 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: even if you're It kind of kind of flips the 460 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: presumption of resident says in you are to prove to 461 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: them that you didn't do a thing that's wrong, and 462 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: they don't even have to have reasonable suspicion or anything 463 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: to say they can. And all the time, I mean, 464 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: it's it's outrageous, and it's just it's especially outratius when 465 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: you think about how the tax code is full of 466 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: so much both complexity and corruption because of the different 467 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: carve outs that special interests have set up, that there 468 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: are different ways to interpret all of the thousands and 469 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: thousands of pages of regulations and statutes. And you know, 470 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be subjected to a federal agency that has 471 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: the ability to not just take your money, but take 472 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: your freedom away based upon laws that are opaque to 473 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: the point of nobody really fully even understands, uh, every 474 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: aspect of it, or rather you have to be an 475 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: expert who only does this to understand every every aspect 476 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: of it. And and I think that this is what 477 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: is backfiring with with Democrats more broadly, not just in 478 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: this civil trial where Trump is doing, you know, doing 479 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: very well, and I think, uh, you know, we'll see 480 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: how it. I mean, when I they're doing well, he's 481 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's very much up for the fight and 482 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: he's not backing down, and his attorney is getting very 483 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: very fiery as well. But you know, Americans see this 484 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: and they think, if they can do this to Trump. 485 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: What could they do to me? 486 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: And if you see what they've done to the January 487 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: sixth protesters, some of them, you have I think a 488 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: preview there of if you become somebody who is on 489 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: the wrong side of this machinery, there is a ruthlessness 490 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: with which your life and reputation will be crushed. And 491 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: it is politically imbalanced. This happens to one side, not 492 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: the other. And Donald Trump is, in essence, the one 493 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: person that the machine has thrown everything that has against 494 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: that they have not been able to break. And so 495 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: I think for some people that's what this all boils 496 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: down to. It's is there one person out there now, 497 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: obviously a former president, impossible future president, that no matter 498 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: what they try, they can't actually break him and destroy 499 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: him because with his legal legal stuff they're doing clay. Remember, 500 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't long ago when the notion of charging a 501 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: former president with a single felony seemed like, oh my gosh, 502 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: not in the not in our America. They won't do that. 503 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: The charging with felonies in four different jurisdictions in the 504 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: election year. 505 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: No less. 506 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially when it's directly related to politics. Again, 507 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump is driving a car and he was 508 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: drunk and he hit somebody. I think most people out 509 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: there would say, oh, because it is is beyond the pale. 510 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: I'll also point this out again. We're going to be 511 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: live with Trump tomorrow from mar A Lago for an 512 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: hour in the third hour of the program. If you 513 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: haven't already heard, you want to make sure that you're 514 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: listening tomorrow at the same time. But the fact that 515 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: they said mar A Lago's worth eighteen million dollars, to me, 516 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: this case is over right because mar A Lago is 517 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: twenty acres of some of the most prime real estate 518 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: in the entire United States. I don't think it's an 519 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: exaggeration to say that mari A Lago probably if it 520 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: were on the open market two hundred million dollar property minimum, right, 521 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at what an acre of 522 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: land in West Palm Beach selling, I. 523 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: Think it's more than I mean think I think he 524 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: said it's more than two hundred million. But but because 525 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: you also add into it the uniqueness and the historical 526 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: value of it, right, I mean, the the it's one 527 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: of the one of the great estates in America in 528 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. But more to the boy Clay 529 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: is that these banks that he was engaged in these 530 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: transactions with They're highly sophisticated. They lost no money. They 531 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: wanted to be in business with, correct, they didn't. This 532 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: goes back to the what exactly is the problem here? 533 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: The problem is Trump. The problem isn't that he's transgressed 534 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 2: and that he's you know, bankrupted people through fraud, you know, 535 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: in this in this instance, or anything like that. It's 536 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: just they've decided that there's enough leeway in the law 537 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: to punish him, and that's what they're that's or try 538 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: to punish him, and that's what they're doing. 539 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, that is ultimately the crux of this. 540 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: There was no crime, there was no loser in this scenario. 541 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: This is all lawfair designed to come after Donald Trump 542 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: because of his politics. And I'll just close it out 543 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: with this. We get ready for the last segment. If 544 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Trump had come down that elevator and run. 545 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: As a Democrat, none of this would have ever happened. 546 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: What Biden has been credibly accused of is so much 547 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: more significant than anything that they've ever said that Trump 548 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: or any member of his family is credibly accused of doing, 549 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and yet Biden so far has skated. 550 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: Remember they impeached Trump for. 551 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Asking about Biden's criminal activity potentially in Ukraine. 552 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, think about how wild that is? Yeah, well wait, 553 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: what better way? 554 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 8: Right? 555 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: It's like if you're the guy who stole something and 556 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: you're about to be confronted, what do you do? 557 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: You say? 558 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, you point at somebody else, say you're the 559 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: thief to throw them off, right, It's kind of what 560 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: they did. They brought the charges against Trump so that 561 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: nobody would stop to think, Wait a second, what was 562 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: really going on with hunter Biden in Ukraine? 563 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: No doubt? 564 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: And speaking of what's really going on, how many of 565 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: you out there don't have the same vim vigor vitality 566 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: that you used to in your life. About a lot 567 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: of you, especially as you age, your testosterone naturally declines, 568 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: and certainly if you're inside of the Biden White House, 569 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: you've got a major testosterone disadvantage. 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He will spend the 594 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: entire hour with us. Also the debate down here in Miami. 595 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: There are so many different moving parts and storylines that 596 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: we will be tracking. 597 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: We look forward to hanging out with all of you. Tomorrow. 598 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: We will be at Marlago, which, according to New York 599 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: courts is only worth eighteen million, which should be pretty 600 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: fascinating to discuss with Donald Trump, among many other things. 601 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: A lot of you want to wait. 602 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Weigh in on a variety of different topics throughout the 603 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: course of the program. Let's go ahead and take some 604 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: of those to close it up here, Barbara in Ohio, Barbara, 605 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: which got for us? 606 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: Well, first of. 607 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 10: All, I want to say, neither one of you are crazy. 608 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 10: You're all both right on spot. My second thing is, 609 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 10: since you're going to be in marl Igo tomorrow with 610 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 10: Donald I would ask you to please. All my friends 611 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 10: are voting for him, even if he's in jail. But 612 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 10: we just wish that he would quit nitpicking on people. 613 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: Just let go. 614 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 10: You know, you know what I'm talking about. 615 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, we'll tell him tomorrow, Barbara. Thank you for calling in, 616 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Barbara, and Ohio wants you to 617 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: stop nitpicking on people. If you'll remember that, Buck, we 618 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 1: will Trump. 619 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: One thing about him is he definitely does what people 620 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: tell him about, and especially when it comes to reigning 621 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: in his joke, criticism and mockery of people. I mean, 622 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: if you tell Trump like, hey, so and so doesn't 623 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: like his nickname, he's definitely gonna stop. 624 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 6: Paul. 625 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, said Paul in Louisville. 626 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: Big elections going on today, one year out. We need 627 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: everybody in the state of Kentucky to vote Daniel Cameron. 628 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: Kick out basher Paul. 629 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 5: What you got for us, Paul in today from Louisville, Guys, 630 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: very important governor's race in Kentucky has implications nationally. If 631 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 5: you are in the state of Kentucky, stop what you 632 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: are doing right now, get in your car, and go 633 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 5: vote for Daniel Cameron for governor before it's too late. 634 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 5: These polls is tightened and we'll be lucky if it's close. 635 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: People have surprisingly short memories when it comes to COVID. 636 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 5: I don't I come with this from a business owner's perspective. 637 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 5: Every single surrounding red state around Kentucky opened their schools 638 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 5: in early January twenty twenty one. Every single surrounding red 639 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: state in Kentucky ended the extended unemployment that fits in 640 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 5: early twenty twenty one. That would be Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, Tennessee, Missouri. 641 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 5: Guess what not Basher. He went lockstep with the Democrat 642 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 5: Governors Association, and it is important not to forget that 643 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 5: that was not necessary and that says a lot about 644 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 5: where he's at. 645 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: A then go vote Daniel Cameron Buck a little bit 646 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: of a humor for you to end. I know that 647 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: you are a fan of nineteen eighty's action heroes Arnold 648 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger Peyton Manning this iconic discussion about their Monday night 649 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: football visit. 650 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: It's funny. Listen to this. 651 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 11: Eli's gonna laugh at you, right in your face. So 652 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 11: then you'll break his hand, and then you'll break his arm. 653 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 11: Then you toss Eli completely across his basement, and then 654 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 11: you'll sit out an interview about Chargers Jets. So what 655 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 11: do you think? 656 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: Well, I hate to disappointed, but I'm not going to 657 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: do any of that. 658 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 11: Okay, oh, but you're still gonna come on the Manning Cash. 659 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: Right of course? I love your show. Are you kidding me? 660 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 11: Perfect? 661 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 3: All right? How about this? 662 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 11: Right before we go to commercial, you'll say. 663 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: I'll be back. This is supposed to sound like me, 664 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: absolutely I'll be back. No no, no, no, no, that's not 665 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: the way I say it. Come on, now, if you 666 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: want to imitate me, then do it the right way. 667 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 11: You sound exactly like that. 668 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: No, my name is Peyton Manning and I'm the worst impressionist. 669 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: Arnold Schwartzenegger, Peyton Manning icon. So he went on to 670 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: talk about Monday Night football, Buck, I just thought you 671 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: would enjoy Arnold Schwartzenegger and a little bit of throwback 672 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties movie. 673 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: Peyton should have been like get to the chop on Like, 674 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that he could have thrown 675 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: in the mix there. But I don't know if Peyton 676 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: Manning's impersonation better. He's better at football than he has 677 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: at the impersonation. 678 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, you will be at mar A Lago tomorrow with 679 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Make sure you don't miss out.