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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly Paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, this

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Speaker 1: is Paul.

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Speaker 2: Anka and my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends

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Speaker 2: for decades and we've decided to let you in on

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Speaker 2: our late night phone calls by starting a new podcast

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Speaker 2: and welcome to Our Way.

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Speaker 1: We'd like you to meet some real good friends books.

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Speaker 2: You're leaders in entertainment and sports.

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Speaker 1: Innovators in business and technology, and even a city president.

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Speaker 2: To join us as we ask the questions they've not

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Speaker 2: been asked before. Tell it like it is, and even

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Speaker 2: sing a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going.

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Speaker 1: How about you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: I heard you're down at the Springs golfing your heart

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Speaker 1: out with all your buddies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know what I got to tell you,

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Speaker 2: it's my happy place. It really is a golf course,

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Speaker 2: and uh, it's just a fun thing for me to

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Speaker 2: get away and do that.

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Speaker 1: When'd you get back?

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Speaker 2: Got back last night?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know this big storm coming, so you guys

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Speaker 1: lucked out.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know a lot of the time when

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Speaker 2: we talked like this on the phone at night. Lately

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Speaker 2: it's about a big storm. It used to be about

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Speaker 2: the big drought. Oh man, we need rain? Are you

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Speaker 2: kidding me? Why rain?

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Speaker 1: How many doctors we've seen this week.

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Speaker 2: Planning to see next week?

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow we got your buddy on right? Billy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Billy. Billy is just you know what, You're

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Speaker 2: just throwing a little alcohol, shake him up, and you

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Speaker 2: got a party. You know, anybody else, he's just something else,

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Speaker 2: this guy, he's so much fun. He's just I've never

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Speaker 2: seen him in a bad mood. He's just completely authentic.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna love You're gonna love him.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like I should have married him.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Saved a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of money, a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: You know. The thing that's interesting is he comes from

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Speaker 2: this deep roots with this political Bush family. So it's

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Speaker 2: find out if he ever had any political aspirations. I

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Speaker 2: think that's something we should You.

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Speaker 3: Know, Well, this guy's interviewed a lot of people, I

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Speaker 3: mean tons of people, good people, a lot of celebrities,

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Speaker 3: so he's, uh, he's pretty much in position to teach

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Speaker 3: us a few things.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and right now. He's the host of the

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Speaker 2: syndicated show Extras on five days a week in all

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Speaker 2: over the country. But he can't. The truth is, he

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Speaker 2: can't wait to meet you. When I told him, you

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Speaker 2: know that, you know that we were doing this, he

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Speaker 2: was excited about meeting you. So it's going to be great.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love him.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to say he's not looking forward

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Speaker 1: to meeting you, but we'll get through it tomorrow. You're

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Speaker 1: always so lovable, the love we give to each other.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: To believe, but it sounds good. All right, my darling.

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Speaker 1: Will you sleep warm?

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Speaker 2: You got it?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Go wash your balls and your clubs, and.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to you tomorrow. I love you too.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye, Hello, Hello, Hello, regrets I've had.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with you with our friend Billy skip an Eye.

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Speaker 1: We do define. We're gonna fly. We won't be silly.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk and then we'll walk. We'll be in a

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Speaker 1: state of shop because we didn't fuck it up. So

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Speaker 1: here we go. We'll do our show. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: our way. I think that'll work. Jordan, Wow. Every show

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Speaker 1: she gets set up that's it right. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's an opening if I've ever heard. You can do

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Speaker 1: that for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So skip, my darling.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe if they told us what twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: be listening to everything we rap about every day with

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Speaker 1: you know, when I met this brat pack way back

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Speaker 2: Today I have no more fear.

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Speaker 2: The irony of it is, this is what Paul and

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Speaker 2: I do every night. Seriously, I mean we're on the

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Speaker 2: sort of our thing. It just starts. There's no subject matter,

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Speaker 1: There's a few subjects that we tear apart and analyze,

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Speaker 1: but that'll go and say. So, when the notion came

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Speaker 1: up that you and I were going to have our

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Speaker 1: and we want to be one of them, that remain.

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Speaker 1: We're naturals, right, even though we're new at it, and

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Speaker 1: our guests today could probably teach us a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot because this guy is something else. He's done

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Speaker 1: it for years, knows how to do it. But this

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Speaker 1: is fun. This is going to be cool, skip.

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Speaker 2: Especially for me because I'm with two of my great friends.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is, Paul, when you were on your

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Speaker 2: son in law Jason Bateman's podcast, SmartLess. I listened to

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Speaker 2: so many coincidences throughout life. I mean, I was a

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Speaker 2: about business. You don't have to go to business school.

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Speaker 2: He said, what do you mean. I said, Well, you

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Speaker 2: to provide good service. You learn that if you do

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Speaker 2: provide good service, people will reward you. You learn that

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Speaker 2: some people will avoid paying you. It's all the same

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Speaker 2: tenets of any business, just starting with a paper rout.

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Speaker 2: You know, my mother was the tough task master in

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Speaker 2: the family. When she made me have a paper out

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Speaker 2: So where I went to school, if you misbehaved in school,

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Speaker 1: I've done everything since typing glass And what did you

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Speaker 2: Well let's start with this, the daily paper. I hate

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Speaker 2: I'm one of one of my customers. That was about

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Speaker 2: a month's worth of a month's worth of compensation. See now, Billy,

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Speaker 2: he's younger. Billy didn't have these experiences. Billy, go ahead,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we still can find a paper exactly. So,

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Speaker 2: Billy is a great friend of mine, and Billy's had

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Speaker 2: I've often said, now that Larry King has gone, Billy

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Speaker 4: As long as I had Skip Bronson as a booker

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Speaker 2: Is anybody he doesn't know? Yeah? His roll of decks

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Speaker 2: is supreme? Billy? When did you start? How many years ago?

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Speaker 2: And why? Well?

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Speaker 4: I should say my last name, it's Billy Bush, folks

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Speaker 4: if you haven't guessed it, but I started. God, I

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Speaker 4: started on an oldies radio station in Lake Winnipesake, New Hampshire. Really,

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Speaker 4: It's a hot locale. I fell in love with radio

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was a great salesman too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: So this is another crazy coincidence. So growing up in Hartford,

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Speaker 2: Insurance Company. There was a Cadillac convertible. And as you

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Speaker 2: remember Paul, back in the day, if someone had a Cadillac,

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Speaker 2: that meant well that was it. Somebody with a Cadillac,

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Speaker 2: and the plate was ic BD and forever I couldn't

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Speaker 2: is ICBD? He said, it stands for it can be done.

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Speaker 1: They totally ran everything, radio stations. It was pay all

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Speaker 1: And I said, You've got to be kidding to go

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Speaker 1: No, no, I got this song. Now you gotta remember

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Speaker 1: And I won in my district in Canada. And that's

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Speaker 1: when I got bitten with New York. And I went

437
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: back the following year and had Diana Bang Bang. Never

438
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: looked back.

439
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: Billy, you wouldn't know this. But back in the day,

440
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: they had these rock and roll shows where you'd have

441
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: a group like the CADETSA or One Hit Wonder. They'd

442
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: come in, they perform one song, Gone, next filing stage

443
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: performed their one hit yeah, Gone, and they were gone

444
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: a later Yeah, and then they were going a month later,

445
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: as Paul says, and now you know, you have residences

446
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas where you have performers that you know

447
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: are there for a month doing these shows or whatever.

448
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: It's just so different. That was just like it was

449
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: like a review right.

450
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: Well last why they were all on the bus, we

451
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: all had an orchestra, We did one or two songs.

452
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: It took more time for us to do our hair

453
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: in the dressing rooms than on stage. You'd see a

454
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Speaker 1: line of artists with this palmade I forget the name

455
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: of flex and Fluxes. And we're sitting there, there's like

456
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Speaker 1: a line of us and we're doing our hair and

457
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: the brothers are doing their due and we're all in

458
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Speaker 1: front of this mirror for an hour greasing up that hair,

459
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Speaker 1: and then we'd go on to one song. But going

460
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Speaker 1: back to what you said, I got rejected by Chuck

461
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Speaker 1: Berry because I broke into one of those reviews up

462
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Speaker 1: in Ottawa, Canada, and I broke in and I saw

463
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Speaker 1: Chuck packing his guitars. Hey, hey, mister Barry m a

464
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: fan had this new white jacket with white sleeves. I said,

465
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: would just sign And he said, he says, what are

466
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Speaker 1: you doing?

467
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Speaker 2: Kid? I said, I got this.

468
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Speaker 1: Song and I sing him Diana, Holy Ma, right, the

469
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: worst song I've ever heard, go back to school.

470
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Speaker 2: He said that, he said, that's in his book.

471
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Speaker 1: And I reminded him when I went on tour with

472
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Speaker 1: him three years later, worst song I ever heard go

473
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Speaker 1: back to But you know what you learned from the failures? Yeah,

474
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: big time, Right, We've all had failures. You get stronger.

475
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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing that's nowaday. You know you you

476
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 4: got to reteach that because I think, you know, I

477
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 4: think Oprah said it, but anyone could. And that is,

478
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: you know, she didn't get to the big spot in

479
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Speaker 4: her life. She didn't get to the top level because

480
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: of the little successes. Right, it's the failures.

481
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Speaker 2: Learn from them.

482
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Speaker 4: You get up and you keep going. Nowadays, I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: yike's one wrong word and you're out.

484
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Speaker 1: You're out right, billy. I mean, we'll touch on it

485
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Speaker 1: maybe later. Yeah, I got to commend you. You go

486
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: right up again, and you talk about timing.

487
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Speaker 2: And it's not right up. But I swallowed around for

488
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Speaker 2: a bit, but you got up, buddy. Yeah. But before

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, what would you do when looking back? What

490
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Speaker 2: would you have done different in that situation?

491
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, you know, riding with Trump in two thousand

492
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: and five, he is the star of the Apprentice. The

493
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: ratings are baffo. He's making one hundred million dollars a

494
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Speaker 4: year for NBC. He's the biggest star in the network.

495
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: He's printing money, the production costs are very low. Everybody's

496
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 4: falling at his feet, you know, everybody on the fifty

497
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Speaker 4: second floor. Trump for his renegotiation. And this is interesting

498
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 4: because Jeff Immelt the chairman of ge the parent company

499
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Speaker 4: of NBC at the time. Well years later he becomes

500
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Speaker 4: the chairman of the board of my brother's healthcare company

501
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 4: called Athena Health, a very big company, six thousand employee.

502
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Speaker 4: He ended up selling it, but Immelt was the chairman

503
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: of the board. And one day Immelt is in his kitchen.

504
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: They're just having a drink after dinner, the two of them,

505
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: and Emmel says how's your brother? And my brother says, oh,

506
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: you know, he's been through a lot, he's but he's

507
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 4: you know, he'll he'll get there. And Immelt said, h

508
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: let me tell you something that could have happened to me.

509
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: This is tr Trump demanded after his first year a

510
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: renegotiation with NBC. Forget the contract that was in place,

511
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: and he wanted it to be with me, like forget

512
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: Jeff Zucker, who's the CEO and the whole thing.

513
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: No, he Trump wants to go sit with him.

514
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: He called EML blows him off and blows him off,

515
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: and finally mL gives in and he's like, just let's

516
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: get this over with.

517
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: I'll meet with him.

518
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: So they go up to the fifty second floor wherever

519
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 4: it is, and Trump begins to talk about his thing,

520
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: you know, And with Trump, it's it's either golf for

521
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 4: the P word and you know which.

522
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Speaker 2: You remind me of proximity.

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, for me it wasn't a golf

524
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: day of that faithful day, and and for em L

525
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: the same thing. And he's like, I laughed, and you

526
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Speaker 4: keep this guy going whatever you want to get this

527
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 4: over with, he said. But I guess if there was

528
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Speaker 4: a microphone there or someone was there, I wouldn't be

529
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Speaker 4: the chairman of ge.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 4: So yeah, there was a different a different time. And

532
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: what ends up happening because and let's be honest, the

533
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 4: media wants him dead. They don't want him to win.

534
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: He's not their guy, so they'll stop at nothing, including

535
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: killing their own guy, in order to get him out.

536
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: Of the way.

537
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: And so the rules changed. That was eleven years later.

538
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: They found an old tape thing of him talking and

539
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Speaker 4: me trying to survive it, and they weaponize it.

540
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: And when were you aware of the tape? That's the

541
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: craziest story.

542
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: I wrote a chapter on this, just in case I

543
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 4: ever needed to remember every detail of the week. But

544
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: I found out from Matt Lower of all people, came

545
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 4: into my dressing room on a Tuesday morning and he said,

546
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: what are you going to do about the tape? And

547
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: I said, what are you talking about?

548
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: What tape?

549
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: And he said, of you and Trump on the bus.

550
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: I had known about the tape forever. I mean when

551
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: it happened, I reported it immediately to my executive producer.

552
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: I said, you're not going to believe what this animal

553
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: was talking about it and we got into it the

554
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 4: whole thing, and I said, well, no, he goes, yeah, Well,

555
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: if I were you, I'd go see Andy, Andy Lack

556
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: being the chairman of NBC News at the time. So

557
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: I go see Andy, and look, you know, with a

558
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: tip to Mark Twain here, I end up playing catch.

559
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: Up all week long.

560
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: This thing is mobilized, but I'm naive, so I don't

561
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: know what's really happening here. And I'll never forget the

562
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: president of NBC News, who, by the way, laughed his

563
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 4: head off when he watched the tape for the first time,

564
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: and I watched the tape for the first time in

565
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: his office, right, and I'll never forget he said, look,

566
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: you know, what do you want to do with this thing?

567
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: Because these things just have a way of getting out

568
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: like a chilling I mean, like what a comment. I

569
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: was like, Well, I mean, look, you know, I'm Billy Bush.

570
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm a journalist. I interview people. There's banter all the time.

571
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: But if the guy doesn't know the thing's going, even

572
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: if he's a terrible guy in your eyes, you can't

573
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: do anything with it. That's just wrong. I mean, no

574
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 4: one will ever talk to me again. I'm gonna go, like,

575
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: you know, record Paul Anka when we're walking around the

576
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: house before the interview, and then get leaked that out.

577
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: Who's gonna want to talk to me? So, you know,

578
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: but it was too big a thing because it was

579
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: such a hot time because of him in the election.

580
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody, no one's ever been more polarizing than him.

581
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: That's right. And with anybody else it probably would never

582
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: have had the legs.

583
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: Oh, with him, it was like they you know, by

584
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: the way, and it's just so funny. The irony is

585
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: that he was the darling of NBC in two thousand

586
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: and five. Had that tape leaked out, then they would

587
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: have come to me and said, what the heck did

588
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: you do?

589
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: That's our guy?

590
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: Right eleven years later, get him at all costs, get him,

591
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: and then you know they're still going.

592
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: He's given him more and more reasons now. So would

593
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: you interview him today? Yeah, you would, I think so.

594
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be my first guest if, like,

595
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: you know, if I do the Larry King Show, and

596
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: you know Sean, he wouldn't be my first, but he'd

597
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: be my fourth, right, I got it right, That's cool.

598
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: And I think I'd thought about this for a long time, Paul,

599
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: what do you think about this opening?

600
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: So where were we?

601
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: And you know, he goes on to be president resident

602
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: of the United States and you, yeah.

603
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Get fired and then you get fired. Yeah. So let

604
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: me ask you a question. Because of the famous family,

605
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: you're part of the Bush, you know, two presidents, did

606
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: you ever think about getting involved in politics?

607
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's not lost on me that

608
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm related to two presidents and possibly you know, in

609
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: the in the annals of history, I'm connected to that one,

610
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: you know, besides the two that share my name.

611
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Uh, you know that's interesting. I mean, was it sort

612
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: of thought of in the family that it's like the

613
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: family business. Yeah, but it's not.

614
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 4: I mean it's it is in that because they're the biggest,

615
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: most high profile people. But there is a tradition of

616
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: public service. My grandfather was a senator from Connecticut. You know,

617
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: his son became President George Senior, whose son became President

618
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: George Junior. So there's that, you know line. But my

619
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: dad was in there always, you know, thought about it.

620
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: I would never run because it was a thing for me,

621
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, if it wasn't like a

622
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: feather in my cap, No, But if I thought there

623
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: was a way with warmth and ability to connect to

624
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: people that I could bridge some divides and bring some

625
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: people together, maybe maybe at some point.

626
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: That's a tough gig. I'm a tough guy, ball stripes.

627
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: I would never step down. Yeah. But in your in

628
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: your family though, public service was expected, right, I mean,

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: weren't you expected to not necessarily run for office.

630
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were expected to not be a me guy,

631
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, do something for others, you know.

632
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: And George Senior forty one, you know, rest in peace.

633
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: He was shot down over the Pacific. He survived, his gunner,

634
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: his tailman. Two men died, and he floated in the

635
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: water for you know, a long time. He was picked

636
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: up by the USS finback and he said, well, how

637
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: is it that I survived as and these two men didn't.

638
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: And He's like, right now, my life becomes about other people,

639
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: not about me. And that was where he really got

640
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: public service deep into his blood, strength.

641
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: And a good man. I have a great story. I

642
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: have a great story about Bush forty one. When I

643
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: was working with Steve Wynn in Las Vegas, Steve said

644
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: to me one day after forty one had left office,

645
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: he said, you know, he's coming out here. He's going

646
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: to do his first paying gig ever. He's going to

647
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: speak to the Auto Workers Association and at a at

648
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: a meeting in Las Vegas. And I'm going to have

649
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: him stay with me at my house instead of having

650
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: stay in one of the hotels. I'm going to have

651
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: him stay with me. And the night before I want

652
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: to put a dinner together. So I've got to find

653
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: some Republicans. And he said, I wonder who we can

654
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: get And I said, well, you know, Bruce Willis is

655
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: a Republican. He's in I know he's in Las Vegas.

656
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: So and he was married to to me at the time.

657
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: And he said, oh that, well, that'd be great. Steve said,

658
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: we'll put group together. So we go to dinner at

659
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: Steve's house and it's the President, Steve's then son in law,

660
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: my wife and I and Steve and Olaine and the

661
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: President and Barbara wasn't there yet. She was going to

662
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: come the next day. And the plan was we're going

663
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: to have dinner and the next day we're Steve and

664
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: I were going to play golf with the President. So

665
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: that night Tommy was sitting there and she had had

666
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: these breast implants put in for a movie that she

667
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: was doing, and she had a low cut dress, and

668
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean it was you couldn't you couldn't look at

669
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: her without, you know, just looking at these dinner ends.

670
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: The next day we go to play golf. So the

671
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: President he doesn't play golf for score. He plays for speed.

672
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: He wants to play as fast as he can. That's

673
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: the whole way him. He's almost jogging two and a

674
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: half or less. Unbelievable. So it was again it was

675
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: Steve's son in law, Steve, myself and the President playing

676
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: golf and the third hole at Shadow Creek of course

677
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: that we created. The President looked over me and he said,

678
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: skip that to me. She has a very large breasts.

679
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: And I said, uh, yes, that's true, mister President, but

680
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: actually I don't think those are real. And he looked

681
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: at me and he said, that's okay. He sounded like

682
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Carvey on starting, so he was okay with it.

683
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: He was perfectly okay with Is that qualify as locker

684
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: room talking out on the golf course?

685
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: Skie?

686
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: He did love a beautiful woman, But he went on

687
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: to he used to like Terry Hatcher. He visits always

688
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: Terry Hatcher, he loved Terry and Brooks. Shields went up

689
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: to visit him all the time. He had such a

690
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: fan base the Hollywood.

691
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Now you sit with Jerry Wintrup, who was his buddy. Oh,

692
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: those were dinners. Yeah, and he cut loose with Jerry.

693
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: Jerry raised more money for him out out here in

694
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: l A just by saying you'll donate.

695
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: That's right, And you know people did. Didn't Jerry have

696
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: a guest house in Malibu that was you know, only

697
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: four he had seven of them.

698
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and unlike the Sinatra event with Kennedy, the President

699
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: showed up.

700
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, big yeah. Jerry was very tight

701
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: with him. So when you start out when you were young,

702
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: because Paul and I had these jobs delivering newspapers, picking

703
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: up bottles on construction sites and returning them to get

704
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: the nickel deposit. Anything you could do to make a buck.

705
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Did you have any jobs as a kid or did

706
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: you sort of grow up in No.

707
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: I mean I had summer jobs. I'll never forget, you know.

708
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: I graduated high school and for a summer, you know,

709
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: right afterwards, I lived with some buddies in Newport, Rhode Island,

710
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: I was a cabana boy at the very fancy Bailey's

711
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: Beach Club.

712
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh you know it.

713
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget a great incident with Senior Senator

714
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: Claiborne Pell from Rhode Island. And he said to me

715
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: he was a very old man.

716
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean he was he had to be nineties.

717
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: And he said to me, boy and he went to

718
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: the he called me boy boy. After he went swimming,

719
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: he was going to have his lunch. He liked to

720
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: swim before lunch and after so he had swim and

721
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: he was gonna go have lunch. He said, dry my

722
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: bathing suit. I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever did I take

723
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: the bathing suit? I go back to the drying machine

724
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 4: and I dry it for a little while. It feels

725
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: dry to me. I hang it up on the hook.

726
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: And he comes back after lunch and.

727
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: I hear boy boy, and I was like, oh no,

728
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: this is so bad.

729
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: And I walk in and there he is with the

730
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: moles and the whole thing, and he's standing there in

731
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: the raw and he just takes the bathing suit and

732
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: he throws in my face and he goes.

733
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: I said dry, And it was like whoa.

734
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: So that was that's an early experience. And as I

735
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: told you, you know, I went on radio sales in

736
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: the beginning was my was I cried, if you ever

737
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: tried door to door seals, it's brutal. I mean, for

738
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: three months, I couldn't sell it thing, just everyone.

739
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm crying.

740
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm grind Finally, my general manager convinces me to take

741
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: down the biggest advertiser. This guy was Plymouth Auto Village

742
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: and Tilton Ford, two giant car dealerships. They were advertising

743
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: on seven of the eight radio stations that reached Lake

744
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: Winnipesaci area.

745
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: The only one he wasn't on was me.

746
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: So I go up there and I'm like, I'm gonna

747
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: take down the biggest fish and go top down and

748
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 4: let the rest crumble.

749
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: I go in to see this.

750
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: Guy, little guys squatch short, like a fireplug of a man,

751
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: just a tough little dude, and I'll protect his name.

752
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: I go in and East slams the door. I go back,

753
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: Heast slams the door, get out of He won't even

754
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: look at me, and it's like humiliating. Finally, I go

755
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: in one day and I say, this is it? Tell me,

756
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: excuse me? What am I doing wrong? Is that they're

757
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: on every station except mine.

758
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: What am I Just tell me what I'm doing wrong

759
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: and I'll get out of here.

760
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: He goes, well, if you had at of jugs on

761
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: you I swept, maybe we'd get a good start. I went, wow, okay,

762
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: Then you realize everybody buys differently, right, this guy is

763
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: just buying from women. There's everyone's Here comes a young guy.

764
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to see me, so I tell him,

765
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: you know what, it's funny you say that we just

766
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: started this exchange program with a Swedish radio station. It's

767
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 4: an amazing thing. And we have this girl, Helga who's

768
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: now selling for us. Why don't I send her up

769
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: here on Monday? And he goes, Now we're talking. So

770
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: I go back and I'm thinking about this. How am

771
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 4: I gonna find Helga?

772
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: Well?

773
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: I find Helga because Helga lives in me. Paul Skipper

774
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: and I borrow the midday Girl's heels, her mini skirt,

775
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: I buy a wig, I get all the accouterments. I

776
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: drive up to Plymouth Auto Village on a Monday. I

777
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: pull into the lot. I take off my tie, I

778
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: daisy duke my shirt, I put on the heels, I

779
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: put some lipstick balloons in the shirt and I march

780
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: my way into the floor of this car dealership. Well,

781
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 4: the salespeople are, oh my, they can't believe what they're say.

782
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: The worst looking drag queen you have ever seen in

783
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: your life. The word gets to the mechanics, they come out.

784
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: Everyone's filling the floor. I find my way over to

785
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: this little guy at the head of sales in his

786
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: desk and I walk over and I put my foot

787
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: up on the chair next to him, and I said, hello,

788
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: miss Vincent. My name is Helga. Mister Billy Bush sent

789
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 4: me from the oldies Bunnel five. He did not tell

790
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 4: me you was so cute. Look at you, and everybody

791
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: starts going crazy and I slam a contract down in

792
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: front of the guy, the biggest contract at our radio station,

793
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean, could even dream of. And we're talking thirty

794
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: dollars a spot. At this point, he looks at me.

795
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: He looks at me, He goes, kid, you have some balls.

796
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: He looks at the contract, doesn't blink, signs the thing

797
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 4: and bang, I was in business. It's one It's like

798
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't And after that, you know, I guess George

799
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: spreads and everyone's buying, kept the dress on for two months.

800
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Certain things I wouldn't do.

801
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh God, I tell you. Back then, I could tell

802
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: you some stories. Stuff went on that steam room in

803
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: the Sands Hotel.

804
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: That was it. Stuff you don't even imagine. I was

805
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: ready to give all the money back.

806
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with the wrap pack guys I idolized,

807
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: and everybody's like nude, right, the reality hits you. And

808
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: they had a little television set in the corner with

809
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: the rabbit ears, and they had.

810
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: One guy that was his name Leon, and he'd have

811
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: to move.

812
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: The rabbit ears because when the sports was on, you know,

813
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Frank and the guys had to watch. But the reception

814
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: was not good. But once the show was over and

815
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: everyone was in that steam room, I'm there with my

816
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: idols nude and I'm looking at him nude. Talk about

817
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: having trouble with eye contact, you know, I mean, I'm

818
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: checking out.

819
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: Hey. So while we're here, who was the most impressive?

820
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: We all want to know Sinatra? Oh, really, you can

821
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: have it all.

822
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: Can't you.

823
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: I always said you can't have it at all? He

824
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: was well endowed, there was really Yeah, he was God's fair.

825
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: I want to know the one that.

826
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: Really everybody idolized was Milton Burrole. Oh well, I've heard

827
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: about him and Guy Marks.

828
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: Do you ever hear of a comical guy Marks?

829
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: No?

830
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Fully loaded both? Oh my god, you're ready to commit suicide.

831
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: It's like when all the guit.

832
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Talking room talk. Here we go. Folks can't listen, can't

833
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: get away from it, can you? Oh it'll never end? Milton,

834
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: what a legend you can remember. I'm a kid.

835
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm twenty twenty one years old with these guys twice

836
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: my age, and I'm surrounded by them and the mob,

837
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: and all I was. You know Carl Cohen, who is

838
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: my guy, and he represented the boys out of Cleveland Sault,

839
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 1: the Earth guy, and he was the guy that looked

840
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: after me. But he always taught me. He said, just

841
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: zip it, just say you're with the other. You never talk.

842
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: But those guys were something to work for. I mean,

843
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: I wish they were still around.

844
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: I love what you said about Vegas that it's way

845
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: more dangerous now. Back when the mob ran it, it

846
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 4: was a beautiful little operation.

847
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: You left your door open, Billy. Yeah, anybody got out

848
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: of line. You heard about it. I mean I was

849
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: there to see it. Just like when I worked the

850
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Fountain Blue, which is one of the historic buildings in

851
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: the world. You know, what's his name, Ben Novagnan's wife

852
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: saw the place in Fountain Blue. But every time we

853
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: go down there, everybody say, oh, there's there's Is there

854
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: a mob guys there? I'd say, what do you mean?

855
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: Every hotel was built by mob money. And they had

856
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: one guy, I forget his name, but they called him

857
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: the stick and the stick would fly over for Lanski.

858
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: You pick up the cash and cuba at the Tropicana

859
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: and bring it back for the bills at the Fountain Blue.

860
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: But that was the other place that was phenomenal. What

861
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: a place to work and what a structure. It became

862
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: the copy for Caesar's Palace. A guy named Jay Sarno

863
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: who had Circus Circus, saw that Lapiduce I think was

864
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: the architectal Lapi Dues, and they had the curvature. He

865
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: used it, I think in Atlanta, and then when he

866
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: hooked up with Zarowitz, Jerry Zarrowitz and Nate Jacobs out

867
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: of Baltimore, who I know, I had some investors with him.

868
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: They wanted to copy the Fountain Blue hotel and they

869
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: did Teamster's money eighteen million, biggest real estate bang in

870
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: America back then, biggest, so sexy, and that was the Curvature.

871
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: And they used to come to see me at the

872
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: Sands when I was working with the blueprints.

873
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Nate would come.

874
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Over and he'd say, Bully, we're giving you five percent

875
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: of the hotel. Just help us with the hotel. So

876
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I said, Nate, I can't. My people won't let me.

877
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: You know, I can't have a gaming license. The governor

878
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: will be all over me.

879
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: I can't do it. He said, no, you gotta do it.

880
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: So I was going back and forth to Italy at

881
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: the time because I had a career over Italy making

882
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: records there.

883
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: And he flew over to see me. And he's sitting

884
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: in this big limousine.

885
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: We're going to the record studio in Rome, Arci Taliana

886
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: and Mike and our guy was brilliant, Enio Morriconi, who

887
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: you know that name. No one could score a film

888
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: like he did. Anyway, we're sitting in the limousine, we're

889
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: driving and we're looking at the aesthetics of Rome and

890
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: he's telling the architect in the car with the bluebrints,

891
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I want nine of them with heads three of those

892
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: with arms.

893
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I want six of those with arms.

894
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: So well, all those statues you see at Cazars, that

895
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: was all motivated out of the trip to Rome. Anyway

896
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: I passed. They build a hotel, and you know what

897
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: they had in the cage, You know these cages today.

898
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: Millions of dollars they put in there for openings. Seventy

899
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollars was all they had in the cage Caesar's

900
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Palace when it first opened, and the day had opened,

901
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: all three of them were fighting each other.

902
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: It was a war from day one. It wasn't it

903
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: great that when we started out didn't really have anything,

904
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: and those experiences like you talk about the Fontaine Blue

905
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: growing up in Hartford. When we turned sixteen, four of

906
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: us took Lenny Wisenberg's father's car and drove it from

907
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Hartford to Miami twenty eight hours. Two guys would be

908
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: in front, one would drive, one would sit in front

909
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: make sure he didn't fall asleep behind the wheel, two

910
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: in the back sleeping. Then we would swap it out

911
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: and drive. We stayed in a hotel called the Carousel

912
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Motel five dollars a night, four of us in one room,

913
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: two beds, what was on the agenda. What the agenda was.

914
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: It was just to get a suntan. The agenda was,

915
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: please to get out, to get a reflector in baby oil.

916
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Put the baby oil on your face exactly, pull the

917
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: reflector up. Get a wicked sunburn sun tan so that

918
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: when you got back to Hartford in the middle of winter,

919
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: everybody look at you like, wow, where were you? Where

920
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: do you go? But I mean, and the whole thing,

921
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: we had one objective. Sneak into the fountain blue. That

922
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: was it. It wasn't sneak into the eating rock, It

923
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: wasn't sneak into the diplomat. It was sneak into the

924
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: fountain blue. Get to the fount somehow. You had to

925
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: get to the fountain blue pool. And we always figured

926
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: a way to do it and get out there until

927
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: you got caught and get thrown out. For a while,

928
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: you'd get in there and you look at the rich people.

929
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got you. You know when

930
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: you grew up in a housing project, you go to

931
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: a place like this, the people they were at the

932
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: Fontain Blue, those are the rich people. And that was

933
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: the whole objective.

934
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: Makes you want Steve Win, his grandmother told Steve, we're

935
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: going to see Polly Uncle. Who Polly Uncle. She's gonna

936
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: be Polly Uncle. I know you got from and Steve,

937
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I first met him at my concert when I was

938
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: working in the laurnd room at the Fountain Blue. You

939
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: know what it costs to get in.

940
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: And there was the boom boom room. Boom boom room.

941
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Well that was the guy that almost got beat up

942
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: because he was doing it to the owner's wife on

943
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: the side, and they beat him up down the boom

944
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: boom room. In fact, when they beat up Shecky Green,

945
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: you remember that, he said this great line was because

946
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Sinatra got pissed. He was talking about him and they

947
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: were beating up Shecky and he says, it doesn't matter.

948
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Sinatra should get the Humanitarian Award and they said why

949
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: because he walked by and said stop. So anyway, the

950
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Fountain Blue, as you said, was ten bucks. But there

951
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: was a war the moment they opened with Muffson next

952
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: door or at the Een Rock, and that's when Novak

953
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: built this wall so that the side of the building

954
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: had no windows. But it was a huge wall and

955
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: blocked the shade in the swimming pool. But it was

956
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: all mob driven. Every hotel was all mob money back then.

957
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mob played a role Billy in so many

958
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: different businesses. Again, when I was developing shopping centers and

959
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: a guy called me up and said, listen, there's a

960
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: a typical record store was twenty five hundred square feet maximum,

961
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: And he said, listen, the guy wants open up a

962
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: ten thousand square foot record store. Ten thousand square feet

963
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: that's impossible. What would you have in there? This is

964
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: what he wanted. He wanted the space he wanted. You

965
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: have to meet the guy. So I go to New

966
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: York to meet him. His name was Morris Levy. Mush, yeah,

967
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: they call yeah guy. He owned Roulette Records. I had

968
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: no idea who he was. I was a kid, I

969
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't know anything about it was. I'd

970
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: make a deal with him, send him the lease, and

971
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: never sign the lease. I called him up. I said,

972
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: mister Levy, you know you have to sign this lease

973
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: because I have to present it to the bank. And

974
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: he said, I don't sign anything. Let me explain this.

975
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: This how works. If I do good at pay the rent.

976
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: If I don't do good, I'm moving out. Not sign

977
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: the least you want to sign it. Sign many. I said,

978
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: I can't, but I can't sign your name. He said, right,

979
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: come down here, bring it to New York. I'll sign it.

980
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Go to New York at him sign it. I had

981
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: no idea. This guy was one of the most mopped

982
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: up guys of all time. Worsley right back in the

983
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: day with the songs like well he starting ranky lyman.

984
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Mush and even over the Irdicans.

985
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: What emerged from all that creative process was write a word,

986
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: get a third. Now what does that mean, Mush Levy?

987
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: When a new act would come in, just these kids

988
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: come off the corner right and they'd start singing. And

989
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: then I went and the bells were ringing, and the

990
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: kids came by and saw us doing and he'd go, no,

991
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: you know the word where you say this, it should

992
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: be that.

993
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: I never argue. So then it was that write a word,

994
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: get a third.

995
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: He get a third of all the income by writing

996
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: one word, all the stuff that went on the trucks

997
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: that were back.

998
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: And those kids say much better, idea, it works much

999
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: better with that.

1000
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: Whatever you say, whatever you say, mister Levy, I tell

1001
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: you different business today, music business to well in your

1002
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, you know, I've watched you

1003
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: so much on interviews and all that. What are the

1004
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: without a name? How many did you run into when

1005
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: you started talking to them? They were totally nothing like

1006
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: you had perceived and difficult.

1007
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: Did you have a lot of that? Yeah?

1008
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: I mean sure, I mean you don't want to you

1009
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: don't want to hurt anybody's exactly, but but sure. And

1010
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: there's a young, you know, very successful pop star who

1011
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 4: you know, did not like being compared to another legend

1012
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: before her, and you know, so they don't say that

1013
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: when you go in there, I said, what are you

1014
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: talking about? That is the greatest compliment in the world.

1015
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: But do I want to cut my own path?

1016
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1017
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: I guess I forgot and I did it. Stop She

1018
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: stopped the cameras back.

1019
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Please do that.

1020
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: No, we're not doing I'm not working. No, no, let's

1021
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: do that again. And I mean we're talking about a

1022
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: real songbird in the Whitney Houston type of you know

1023
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: for sure, And then and you realize, what are you crazy?

1024
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: Like?

1025
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: How do you behave like that? And you just roll

1026
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: with it.

1027
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 4: That's not a bad thing. You get those people all

1028
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 4: the time. Then there's the people. You know, I think

1029
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 4: about Trump.

1030
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: It was so funny.

1031
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean back in the day, all the things he

1032
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: said to me. I mean, I'll never forget. When I

1033
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: was hosting the Miss USA pageant in Baltimore.

1034
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: He did not four times lots.

1035
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how many when you add

1036
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: them all together. We were in Baltimore, and this is crazy.

1037
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: Trump comes in and he always he wants to come

1038
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: back and review. He comes in at the last minute.

1039
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 4: He wants to review the ladies and see them. And

1040
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: he walks up and down like you know Kim Jong un,

1041
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: you know, reviewing the guard. And he comes back and

1042
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: he's doing He's checking everyone. He says, where's Billy, Where's Billy?

1043
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: Where's Billy?

1044
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: Get Billy?

1045
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh no, God, here he comes. So

1046
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: I come out and uh, he says, Billy. How are

1047
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 4: the girls? Are the girls up to par? I said,

1048
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: very beautiful, sir.

1049
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: I got to say it.

1050
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: They're, I mean all very beautiful. And what about the

1051
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 4: top ten, the top ten that's been are they all

1052
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: you know? Telegenic? I said, listen to me, every single

1053
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: one is telegent, very beautiful. Okay, any surprises, said, well,

1054
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: to be honest, faithful mistake by me, then what We

1055
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 4: were all a little surprised. It's a great moment for

1056
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: the state of Maine. Maine has never had a contestant

1057
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: in the top ten.

1058
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: This is so exciting for Maine.

1059
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: We all were sure it was going to be Oklahoma,

1060
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: and he goes, really, Maine over Oklahoma. I said, yeah,

1061
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: it's a great, credible thing, but anyway, I'll see you

1062
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: out there.

1063
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: He goes, uh, Steve, let's get rid of Maine. That's

1064
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: outrageous and let's put in Oklahoma. Oh boy, he fixed

1065
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: the top ten right there. I was like, oh my god.

1066
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was I thought he was joking.

1067
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: I get out there because he's always horse and Red.

1068
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 4: I get out there, it's live television.

1069
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: I get the.

1070
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: Envelope and I'm like, and the top ten miss Oklahoma.

1071
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he did it.

1072
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: You know he's always say to me, I've known him,

1073
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: indicted him for this, I've known him forever. Right, do

1074
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: you still say to me, Paul, forget actresses, no beauty there.

1075
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: They're not pretty models. And these beauty contents. Oh sure

1076
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: that was the pool he picked from. He wanted nothing

1077
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: to do with actresses and never thought they were good looking.

1078
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had a string of models.

1079
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: So the back to where Paul was going before. I'm

1080
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: not saying it's because you're my friend. You're a great interviewer,

1081
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: great and insightful, But who's the white whale? What interview

1082
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: would you like to do that you've never done? If

1083
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: you could interview one person, Well, it was Paul Anka,

1084
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: but we're here, it's sort of reversed.

1085
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is actually the type of interview for me,

1086
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: which is just the stories that the legends have built

1087
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: up over time. And I could sit and talk to

1088
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: Paul Anka for ever. And you know, you learn to

1089
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: be a good listener when you have people like that

1090
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: in front of you. So that's the kind of I mean,

1091
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 4: I you know, I listened to the SmartLess you know

1092
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: episode of myself with Paul and your son and Lad Jason.

1093
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: Very funny guy, Thank you. But I you know, I

1094
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: just can't I can't get enough. I can't get enough

1095
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: of old Hollywood because there's an old Hollywood in me

1096
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: that I love. I don't jive too well with the

1097
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: crazy housewife action and the reality stars and all that

1098
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he got these people who become stars overnight,

1099
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: and they've got you know, they've got lists of demands

1100
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 4: and things.

1101
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Just say, wait, well, what the hell?

1102
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: What have you accomplished other than throw a wineglass across

1103
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: the room?

1104
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

1105
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 4: So?

1106
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: I got that, you know, that's where my love is.

1107
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: So who would the whale be? Believed? The whale? Politics? Entertainment?

1108
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: Who'd be the whale?

1109
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: Let's think of a great someone I've never talked to

1110
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: thing as I've talked to well this point twenty two

1111
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: years live and alive?

1112
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: Oh, man, would you want Churchill?

1113
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Oh?

1114
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: Would I love to talk to Winston? Of course, mostly

1115
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: about the cigars. I'm a cigar guy, Like do you smoke?

1116
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm so big and nine a day, Like when are

1117
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: you not smoking? But I love I'm you know, I

1118
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: love politics. I'd like to talk to some of the

1119
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: politicians right now.

1120
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to.

1121
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: I had this idea of like getting some people together

1122
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: who hate each other on the side, because we've got

1123
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: this crazy idea of career politicians, which I don't understand.

1124
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 4: Everybody should serve and get out. But I'd like to

1125
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: take you know, an AOC in a room with a

1126
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy, or I'd like to take a Pelosi and

1127
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: a you know, a Jim Jordan or something, or congressman.

1128
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 4: I'd start by saying, tell me something that you admire

1129
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: about Nancy. Just break the ice with these people and

1130
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 4: get them in a personal environment that they can have fun.

1131
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: Because you know, my memories are Tip O'Neil and Ron Reagan,

1132
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 4: you know, fighting over this bill or that that bill,

1133
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 4: but having a cocktail at five and a laugh and

1134
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 4: having dinner and having fun, having a good time.

1135
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: That's gone.

1136
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: But you know the problem today that used to be.

1137
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Because I've been at the White House a few times.

1138
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: It's very humble to go because it's a whole new

1139
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: other thing for all of us. You know, from across

1140
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: the aisle, they would leave the building and they'd go

1141
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: have lunch together.

1142
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do that anymore.

1143
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: No, So when you sit there and try to ask

1144
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: them a question, what do you like about Nancy? I

1145
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know how honest they'd be. You know, you get

1146
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: to the position in life where you look at it

1147
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I love my country, but

1148
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't trust those at anymore.

1149
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: It's true, you watch these people. You know, Mitch McConnell

1150
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 4: cannot stand Donald Trump. But then you see when he went,

1151
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: you know, they folding in behind. No one stands. The

1152
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 4: only guy that did is Paul Ryant. He was the house,

1153
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 4: the speaker of the house.

1154
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: He laughed. He couldn't do it. That's right.

1155
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: Some say you should have stayed and you know box

1156
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: from the inside. But you know, it's too too often

1157
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: we see that.

1158
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 2: I think they got to weed the place out, weed

1159
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: them out. Everybody gets such stuff out of it doesn't

1160
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: work anymore, unfortune, and give me a third party.

1161
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: I'd love to see someone build up a third party,

1162
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 4: because really it's about power. It's completely about power, power,

1163
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: money and power and money, and everyone's serving solf. They

1164
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: don't care. They'll get behind whoever. Let's be honest. The

1165
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: one thing everyone's thinking about right now and no one's saying,

1166
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: is are you kidding me? We're gonna choose between Joe

1167
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: Biden and Donald Trump?

1168
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: Again?

1169
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 4: That's even a possible. We did it once, We're gonna

1170
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 4: do it again. In a country of three hundred and

1171
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 4: forty million people, Geniuses, captains of industry, great minds. Paul

1172
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: Anka we Canadian and a small.

1173
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: Problemlity, I wouldn't step down. Yeah, I don't think.

1174
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wants to gig this one guy.

1175
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Skip and I have talked about that. We like a

1176
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: lot I saone CNN.

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00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Glenn Youngkin, Glenn Young A lot of people think Carlisle,

1178
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he's he's rich enough, he doesn't

1179
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: have to steal. But here's the deal.

1180
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 4: So what if Donald Trump has all these problems and

1181
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 4: Youngkin jumps in and Trump says to me, if you'll

1182
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 4: pardon me and I'll get out of the way. Youngkin

1183
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: would or anyone would beat Joe Biden on that side.

1184
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 4: I think Joe's possibly his ratings are horrible, and you

1185
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: know he would be a hero Joe Biden by saying,

1186
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: you know what Trump's gone, I did my job.

1187
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: Everyone would applaud the guy. He'd be a legend forever.

1188
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: He'd get out of the way.

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: Someone could run against Youngkin, but Youngkin would would be Biden,

1190
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: and so would Tim Scott, and so would anyone else.

1191
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: So declare victory and leave. The only way Biden could

1192
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: win is if Trump's the guy. So getting past politics,

1193
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: what's on the horizon for you?

1194
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: There?

1195
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: You got any projects you're working on. I know you're

1196
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: an avid pickleball player. I don't know if you're going

1197
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: to do it.

1198
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm an avid pickleball player. I'm an avid golfer.

1199
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: With you. You play pickleball ball OCAs. What did?

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: I built the court at my house because I'm so

1201
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: into it.

1202
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 2: Instead of a pool.

1203
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: You know what they're doing now? People are not building

1204
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: pools anymore. They're putting pickleball in their yards and digging

1205
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: out the pools.

1206
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: Funny thing yesterday, just to love it.

1207
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 4: The storm yesterday, the tropical storm wind Yea soaked my

1208
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: pickleball court.

1209
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 2: So now I have both.

1210
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: It's a pickle pool, It's got six inches of water

1211
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 4: on itause it's a recess court.

1212
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: Paul.

1213
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: A small dream would be to come out and play

1214
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: a little pick You got it. We got sixteen courts

1215
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: right over there. I want to play with me and

1216
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: the pro We're take on whoever we need for our friend.

1217
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Ashley Underwood's doing a pickleball documentary and Larry David's wife, Ashley,

1218
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: I know she interviewed you for the for the documentary,

1219
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: but I'm just curious. Are there anythings like in your future?

1220
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: Any looking at other projects, new things, the next move.

1221
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: I have an idea. I think the daytime talk show

1222
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 4: is sort of a dead thing. Mean, it's beyond you know,

1223
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: but the idea of a studio audience and someone in

1224
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: the hair and makeup and comes out with a card

1225
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: and gets told who the guest is and they sit down.

1226
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: It's the same crowd, same set, same thing. It's just

1227
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 4: in syndicated TV. It's just it's there's no you can't

1228
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: launch another one of those. My idea is I love

1229
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: to move. My kids are up, my last one just

1230
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: went to college. I want it to be a mobile

1231
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: live show, almost like cable news, but on network television,

1232
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: with you know, a delta force of seven eight people

1233
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: and wherever the action is, you're there, and you're there

1234
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: and you're breaking it down and you're talking to everybody affected.

1235
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: But I'm very good at landing, walking in someplace, figuring

1236
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: out who's who, what who I need to get and

1237
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: getting those people together and telling the story and doing

1238
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 4: it live. And if it's a big enough thing, then

1239
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: you go enough that you stay right where you are

1240
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: and you do an hour in primetime that night and

1241
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: go again. Fox the station group doesn't have a news guy.

1242
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: They don't want to be associated with Fox News Channel

1243
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: because it's a little too polarizing for them because they

1244
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: have you know, regular fare like the Masked singer and stuff,

1245
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 4: so they don't have a guy like that. And I'm

1246
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: in the process of convincing people I'm the guy.

1247
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: So our producer Jordan, been involved in the life different projects. Jordan,

1248
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: anything you want to ask, Billy, anything you want to

1249
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: We may not have covered you.

1250
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 5: Really you covered everything I'm trying to think now. I

1251
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 5: mean you, you've spoken about this in a few interviews,

1252
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 5: and I would love to ask you more about this.

1253
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: My girlfriend, believe it or not, lives within sight of

1254
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: your uncle George's birthplace in Milton, Massachusetts. Standing on her

1255
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 5: front yard, you see a big stone right in front

1256
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 5: of her house, and that was where your uncle George

1257
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 5: was born, better known to the rest of us as

1258
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: forty one.

1259
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: But I wanted to ask you, just as an uncle,

1260
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: what was he like as a family member for you?

1261
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 4: You know, I appreciate you asking that because most everyone

1262
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: you talk to will say.

1263
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: What a gentleman he was.

1264
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 4: You know, when he lost to Bill Clinton, he was

1265
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: destroyed inside, you know, ross Borough jumping in swung it

1266
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: that way. He couldn't believe he lost. But he's really

1267
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: a man of character, and he found a way to

1268
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: not only keep the nation together, but he became friends,

1269
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: you know, with Bill Clinton and was helpful and that's

1270
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 4: you know, the real type of bipartisanship that's just good

1271
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: for everybody. And enjoyed, you know, hearing his stories. And

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, Clinton's a smart guy. But to me, he

1273
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: was the most wonderful uncle. When I was graduating Colby

1274
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: College nineteen ninety four in Waterville, Maine, some people said,

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 4: what do you think he might come up and give

1276
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 4: the graduation speech. Well, I asked him, and sure enough,

1277
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 4: he drove up with the motorcade from Kenny Bunkport, Maine,

1278
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 4: and delivered the graduation speech, the commencement address. It was unbelievable.

1279
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: And then to a small thing back to Lake Winnipesake.

1280
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 4: I got involved as a youth hockey coach because in

1281
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: the area, while I was not wanted to be in

1282
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: part of the community. So I was coaching the bantam

1283
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: hockey team and they were building a hockey rink and

1284
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 4: they're like, you know, trying to get dollars from many

1285
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: where they can for this hockey rink. And so I

1286
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: had the idea of putting together a big fundraiser. I

1287
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: called him and said if we sent a little plan

1288
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: with a little guy, he said, don't worry, I'll get there,

1289
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 4: win is it? And he came over and shook hands

1290
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: with the selectmen and all the people Guildford, New Hampshire.

1291
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: And that hockey rink that is standing today in the

1292
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: Lakes region of New Hampshire is because of a giant

1293
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 4: fundraiser that people paid to come and have barbecue and

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Speaker 4: listen to him. So he was just there for you,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just a regular runk. We

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Speaker 4: got him back when there was that terrible hurricane. I

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Speaker 4: brought my boys from college. I said, fellas, if I

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Speaker 4: know him, he'll have beer for us. So let's get

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Speaker 4: down there and help clean up his house. His house

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Speaker 4: got the whole bottom floor got crushed by a hurricane

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Speaker 4: in Kenny Bunkbourt nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: Three or four.

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Speaker 4: So you know, he was just in a great wicked

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Speaker 4: sense of humor. He told jokes. Said I'll never forget

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Speaker 4: telling him a big joke that's very inappropriate. He laughed

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Speaker 4: so hard and he said, do me a favor. Call

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Speaker 4: Jerry Wintrub with that joke. I called Jerry Wintrum. I

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Speaker 4: call Winetrum. His secretary says, Billy Bush is on the phone.

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Speaker 4: He gets on the voices, all right, kid, what do

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Speaker 4: you got? I said, well, my uncle wanted me to

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Speaker 4: tell you this joke. He gave me the clearance, the

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Speaker 4: green light. He said, you're gonna love it. He said,

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Speaker 4: all right, fire away. So I tell him the big joke.

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Speaker 4: I give him the whole routine. I hit the punchline.

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm holding bah huge laugh from wine trap. He goes, aroh,

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Speaker 4: and then he grabs a poet says, all right, now,

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Speaker 4: what do you want? Like everybody calls for something. I said,

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to tell you the joke. He goes,

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Speaker 2: I love your kid, Bye, boom, and out we go. So, Billy,

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Speaker 2: this was our first ever podcast, and we wanted you

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Speaker 2: to be here and originally and you said, wait, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to be on the air. I'm the fluffer.

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Speaker 2: Is that it? I'm the fluffer. But you've been so great.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been a blast. I mean it's just

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Speaker 2: been terrific to have you here. Wonderful guy.

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Speaker 4: And I've always wanted to be with Paul. I you know,

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Speaker 4: I'd like to talk to you in the morning. Skip's

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Speaker 4: got the five TV's going in the morning. He's got

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: the whole breakdown school. I can either call a producer,

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Speaker 4: I can call Skip. It's better to call Skip because

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Speaker 4: he gives you his you know, his analysis and opinion,

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Speaker 4: and we have a good laugh. And with all the

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Speaker 4: people you know and all the stories, and Paul being

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Speaker 4: a great friend of yours. This is just a brilliant

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Speaker 4: idea for both of you guys to have fun.

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Speaker 2: All about fun. It's all about fun.

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Speaker 1: You get to our age and we're still young. I

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Speaker 1: can't tell everybody keep the old man out. If you're

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Speaker 1: not having fun at this stage of your life or earlier,

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Speaker 1: if you wish you're not living life. It's so important

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Speaker 1: to have fun. I got to tell you you look

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: around as the way the world is like I've never

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Speaker 1: seen it, and I'm hopeful. I think we're living in

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Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And we will get it together and get the right

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Speaker 1: guy in there. That's difficult, it's going to be painful.

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Speaker 1: You got to have fun along the way because we're

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Speaker 1: ready for another We're living in a different time and

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Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence all over us.

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Speaker 2: Get ready.

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Speaker 1: But be rest assured when you look at what this

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Speaker 1: country's made of, all its access point between the Pacific,

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic, the assets that we have. This is the

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Speaker 1: country still. They come from all over the world to

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Speaker 1: be here, and when they sort all that out, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be amazing. I really am very optimistic about it.

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Speaker 1: But have fun along the way and meeting you man.

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Speaker 1: You know, nobody has perceptions of what all of us

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Speaker 1: do that are in this business. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: finish our gig and we go home and we're in

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: the bathroom, we're with the wife or with the kids,

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Speaker 1: and we sit and we watch television.

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Speaker 2: But the times that I've watched you, you know, I've

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Speaker 2: got my list of favors, just like you do. To

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Speaker 2: be here with you joy.

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Speaker 1: We've enjoyed here, Billy, and to see you overcome what

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Speaker 1: you did. It warms my heart, it really does. And

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Speaker 1: I think the world needs more empathy and more kindness. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what's wrong today, empathy and kindness. Our Way with

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Speaker 1: Paul Anka and Skip Bronson is a production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 2: The show's executive producer is George Runtag, with supervising producer

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Speaker 2: and editor Marcy Depina was.

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Speaker 1: Engineered by Todd Carlin and Graham Gibson and mixed and

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Speaker 1: mastered by Doug Baum.

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Speaker 2: If you like what you heard, please subscribe and leave

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Speaker 2: us a review.

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite chick