Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you my line. Oh look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, Dan dog
Speaker 1: last culture stall, holiday vibes a lost culture holiday. You
Speaker 1: were the one. And I'm sorry. I don't mean to
Speaker 1: once again to opt one of your phrases because you
Speaker 1: walked in with our guests and you said holiday vibes,
Speaker 1: and I said, he's right. I don't think of it
Speaker 1: as my phrase. I think of it as our phrase.
Speaker 1: I think of it as sisterya. Well, I think not
Speaker 1: to bring up work, but I feel like I'm very
Speaker 1: fastidious about credit where credit should go and like that
Speaker 1: was you said that, like that that credit goes to
Speaker 1: you because that is drank you for lifting me up.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if you want to get on
Speaker 1: the podcast and say holiday vibes, because it's a holiday vibe,
Speaker 1: that is I don't own that. That's I share that.
Speaker 1: That's about what the holidays are all about, share sharing
Speaker 1: and the gift of a phrase and you but see,
Speaker 1: it's just you are a pump of phrases that I
Speaker 1: really love being described as a pump. You have no
Speaker 1: idea what that it is. It is a better day,
Speaker 1: miracle worker vibes, the pump down me. I am Helen,
Speaker 1: I am the other one. I'm either of them. I'm
Speaker 1: the damn Keller family going to the pump and saying,
Speaker 1: what's this? A phrase? A phrase? Basically, that's you described
Speaker 1: how Helen Keller sort of came to be. Do you
Speaker 1: believe that Helen Keller was carrying do you think she
Speaker 1: was carrying down? Well? What was she giving? She was
Speaker 1: giving lessons, moment she was giving giving iconography giving. Um,
Speaker 1: let's just say, when you see a young girl bent
Speaker 1: into over a pump, really, that's why that's why I
Speaker 1: brought up miss and I'm saying, like you iconically know
Speaker 1: what that image is like, that's miss Anne Sullivan, the teacher,
Speaker 1: the miracle worker herself. It's not Anne Sullivan. And literally,
Speaker 1: literally I'll bet you twenty five dollars any Sullivan. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, reader, hold on. While he looks, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, we're in a Brooklyn podcasting studio. The
Speaker 1: energy is hot, holiday vibes alive. We're here with we
Speaker 1: we say hot engineer a lot we got we got
Speaker 1: a hot, hot engineer. It's hot engineer Waltz or everybody.
Speaker 1: He's okay, he's just he's he's making he's throwing his
Speaker 1: hands up. Okay, I own that. Oh my god, who
Speaker 1: could forget? And Bancroft, I forgot it, Bancroft as any Sullivan.
Speaker 1: Can I say something to keep your money? Babe? We
Speaker 1: made a bet. I'm a man of my word. You
Speaker 1: know how I said before about how we share the
Speaker 1: phrases of the giving and the gifting and the receiving,
Speaker 1: and then whose phrases keep your money? Who does that?
Speaker 1: Was I gonna say? Sorry, I'm telling you we share
Speaker 1: it all, and I'm saying that it also goes with
Speaker 1: the money. My money is your money, girl, girl, and
Speaker 1: I feel the same for you. How many how many
Speaker 1: versions of The Miracle Worker did you? Guys? Did you
Speaker 1: have to watch in like elementary school? Well, definitely we
Speaker 1: You know what my favorite time was whenever in English
Speaker 1: class you would read a play and then you would
Speaker 1: watch it or you would act it at like like
Speaker 1: like okay today, yeah you're going to play um, the Crucible,
Speaker 1: like the lead guy on the Crucible or you Yeah,
Speaker 1: what were your plays? I Well, we definitely did The
Speaker 1: Crucible and we definitely did The Miracle Worker, which is
Speaker 1: why I say, really those are interesting. Those are interesting
Speaker 1: choices I'm telling and I'm telling you those are my
Speaker 1: favorite days when you get to act, get to do
Speaker 1: the play. Sometimes they are frustrating because some kids, and
Speaker 1: we can say it not readers, not readers well, like
Speaker 1: as in they didn't actually read the text, you know,
Speaker 1: as in like they struggle reading the words. Ye famously absolutely,
Speaker 1: and also some a lot of actors we know, not
Speaker 1: that we know, but it's like you them. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: the long you work in this business, the more you go.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that famous person has trouble reading, and
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's a dislexive thing. I think no, no,
Speaker 1: some people just aren't good at cold read. Some of
Speaker 1: the best actors in the world. That's not the way
Speaker 1: they internal I'm so bad at the cold read. You
Speaker 1: feel this way? Can I can I just quickly share
Speaker 1: my plays in high school, Um, they were we did
Speaker 1: it well. We did West Side Storyans in the eighth
Speaker 1: which was my favorite, and that's like it really did solidified,
Speaker 1: like why the reason why I wede Story is my
Speaker 1: favorite show us. And then in high school we did
Speaker 1: Streetcarting Desire, which I also loved, but I. We all
Speaker 1: had to everyone had to be Stanley or a Blanch
Speaker 1: or a Stella, and I had to be like Marlin.
Speaker 1: I had to be like Stanley. And it was humiliating
Speaker 1: because you because I had to play mass. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: if you're playing mass whatever. Also, it just sucks as
Speaker 1: a gay individual you want to play probably like being
Speaker 1: a probably see a flop playing blanch. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was flop parade down, not giving, not carrying, not
Speaker 1: holding no thing. There's nothing more humiliating when a girl
Speaker 1: can't give Blanche in class. Nothing. It's so humiliated. Is
Speaker 1: you know who could give Blanche down our? And this
Speaker 1: is the sub kind of see Williams mu this is
Speaker 1: I've never seen more blanche energy. That's insulting to an extent.
Speaker 1: Well no, okay, wait, actually the more I think about it,
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is when I look over at
Speaker 1: our guests, it is the icon. Thank you. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm starting for icon icon. Our guests, Walter laughing, Walter's laughing,
Speaker 1: hot little laugh, Oh my god, inaudible. But the shut up, sure,
Speaker 1: I got shut up. We don't know if he's whatever.
Speaker 1: Um let's about our guests, um our guest is really
Speaker 1: one of the one of the best people out there.
Speaker 1: A watershed human, watershed human, I agree, I don't disagree
Speaker 1: which watershed human? I mean, there's where do we I'm
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because I don't even know where to start. Well,
Speaker 1: let's start in the beginning. Born Actually get this, and
Speaker 1: this is all My sisters were born and around. We
Speaker 1: were born within ten a week of each other in Africa.
Speaker 1: She was born in it and she was not born
Speaker 1: in Africa. You lived in Africa, she lived there, She
Speaker 1: was not born there. You were you born in Indiana? Okay,
Speaker 1: born in India. Oh, my god, lived in Africa, but
Speaker 1: not born there. Oh. And I never said that number once.
Speaker 1: Number once. But as I that's sometimes I get my
Speaker 1: girls mixed up because my one girl was born in Australia.
Speaker 1: Here a rather girl girl. I think she is really
Speaker 1: huh when she went icon icon iconic right, Blanch Blanche, Blanche,
Speaker 1: vibes blanche, Rachel Ziegler vibes, Holiday vibes. Honey, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I want to do the letterman thing of our
Speaker 1: next desk needs no introduction, and you just did it,
Speaker 1: and now we said it, and now we said it
Speaker 1: because you if you listen to the podcast for any
Speaker 1: number of years, and it's had to be for at
Speaker 1: least a couple of years for us to be exciting
Speaker 1: for you that we're entering another's, that we've been in
Speaker 1: another summer of count and that we have our guests
Speaker 1: here with us to really process it, unpack it. Um,
Speaker 1: we couldn't be more thrilled. This is one of those
Speaker 1: days where you smile all day and then you get
Speaker 1: to sort of the moment you're and you've just been
Speaker 1: smiling so much. I've been filing so much, and as
Speaker 1: my tears come to my eyes, people have been asking
Speaker 1: for this. Oh, you wouldn't believe the requests, and it's here,
Speaker 1: and it's here at the sort of we could say
Speaker 1: end of the summer. Well, we're at an interesting time.
Speaker 1: We're at the sort of the twilight of it, you know.
Speaker 1: And then this twilight of summer, we begin the summer
Speaker 1: of Count four by bringing in the Queen, the iconic Blanche,
Speaker 1: a watershed human. Welcome our guests, suit En. I've always
Speaker 1: relied on the off him, another legend bride in this room.
Speaker 1: You definitely played Blanche in school. Oh my god, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I remember my freshman year at m
Speaker 1: y U. First of all, thank you for recognizing me
Speaker 1: as an African. African born I carry, but I did
Speaker 1: my freshman year. We did street Car my freshman year
Speaker 1: and we read street Car, and I'll never forget It's
Speaker 1: just like my second week at m y U and
Speaker 1: my professor goes the first lines to the play and
Speaker 1: I'm doing like an incredible impression of him and he
Speaker 1: like kind of had like this like very big head
Speaker 1: and kind of pointed with like a t rex. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I had him first line. Here meat catch
Speaker 1: it and he's primal and it's sexual, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm about to get educated. Absolutely, Oh this guy is
Speaker 1: his name started with an R. Last name was an R.
Speaker 1: Robert something, Yeah, Rang Gilly. Maybe we're naming names. That's
Speaker 1: not wrong, it was, but definitely there was a Ran
Speaker 1: Gelly Famously study and I were in the same program,
Speaker 1: and I really I really just like, well, miss the Eyed,
Speaker 1: I'm just I get Missy. I'd listening to you guys
Speaker 1: talk about that time in your lives because I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we've done this literally every summer of kind
Speaker 1: of episode were you guys where I'm like, what was
Speaker 1: that like? Because I really don't everybody wants to hear
Speaker 1: people who went to n y U relive those days.
Speaker 1: That is, especially other comedians. I really want to hear
Speaker 1: about kids and went to YU and what it was like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the sort of live like variously in
Speaker 1: that experience and also talk about your musical sketch group
Speaker 1: that you're all, oh my god today. And I told
Speaker 1: someone we were really kicked out of a musical theater
Speaker 1: improv group. You and I. That's right, we were. That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's funny. I think that's I would know. I'm so
Speaker 1: much you were great at it. I was noo. They
Speaker 1: kicked us both out because we both, I guess, lacked
Speaker 1: what it was the technique of musical improv, which is
Speaker 1: it is a technique. Yeah, but girl, we were given
Speaker 1: we were carrying down. You saw happy Karaoke fun Time,
Speaker 1: which by the way, that was its name. Let's not
Speaker 1: let's not drag this wonderful you know, shared effort in
Speaker 1: the in that group. You're right, it was incredible, wonderful people.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fact that I wasn't accepted into
Speaker 1: Danger Box yeah, your improv group, so actually kind of
Speaker 1: you kind of Happy Carrio Keep Fun Time to meet.
Speaker 1: I didn't I know, I did not invite know what
Speaker 1: happened for Happy Caria Keep Fun Time. I can't believe
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. What happened Happy Area Fun Time
Speaker 1: was that Matt and I were asked, were invited to
Speaker 1: joy and then plain the premise of the musical theater.
Speaker 1: So musical improv, it's what it sounds like. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes typically you have a pianist or a musician on
Speaker 1: the side of the stage kind of like playing like
Speaker 1: a random chord progression and then people in the theme
Speaker 1: will happen. This show was different. This show was so, yeah,
Speaker 1: any random chord progression and then typically meet musicians will
Speaker 1: uh the improvisers will improvise the melody, the verse, the chorus, whatever.
Speaker 1: For this, it was just like karaoke tracks to already
Speaker 1: established song, Like so you were doing like parodies and
Speaker 1: so and then you had to like memorize you were
Speaker 1: doing parodies you had But classically my favorite form of
Speaker 1: comedy the hike the song and make the different. And
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, when I'm watching an arsenal, I
Speaker 1: was like fucking parodies, like the parodies I have to
Speaker 1: my name, but parodies you just get to that point
Speaker 1: when you're at S and L where you're just like
Speaker 1: you start in your being like I hate puns, Like
Speaker 1: the only observation behind like word humor, word play is
Speaker 1: that like the words sound like other words. And I'm
Speaker 1: like an observation and then like cut to you being
Speaker 1: like what ry Trump? It's actually Trump? Now this is
Speaker 1: on a technical level. Why don't think you've done that
Speaker 1: many parodies? No, I'm saying, no, no, you really haven't.
Speaker 1: Those are I feel like the show overall doesn't even
Speaker 1: do that. Can I say one thing? I think there's
Speaker 1: something too like when so so? Sort of what we
Speaker 1: were really doing was like Mimi musical theater improv. It
Speaker 1: was so it was well it was that, um, we
Speaker 1: had to learn the like let it go. We don't
Speaker 1: have like five songs, remember what it was. It was
Speaker 1: like five songs would be in rotation, and when you
Speaker 1: would learn them, like I didn't like, let's say I
Speaker 1: didn know like sweet Child of Mine, like like I
Speaker 1: would be like, I guess I gotta learn like the
Speaker 1: melody like and that was like an element that made
Speaker 1: it even more difficult. It was hard and so then
Speaker 1: so what happened was we were summarily asked to leave
Speaker 1: after two rehearsals in one show. And that was that.
Speaker 1: Because do you want me to give you a word? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: ask ask for it. Okay, um, okay. So we are
Speaker 1: we are too younger, too younger, and we need we need.
Speaker 1: All we need is a word. Remember when we did
Speaker 1: do improfit as Gray's Anatomy Drag, something we well, I
Speaker 1: asked you, I was booked for Josh and Aaron show,
Speaker 1: a gay show for all people, to do plux. I
Speaker 1: was scared out of my mind. I did not prepare
Speaker 1: anything for the show. I asked you the day before, Matt,
Speaker 1: you have to help me out. And I was in
Speaker 1: a creative globe. I did not know what to do
Speaker 1: with myself. And I was just like, Matt, let's just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's go to the story pirates closet, get
Speaker 1: some lab coats and some wigs, and let's just do
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy Drag. Remember that it was we bombed so hard,
Speaker 1: it was really awful, Like it was like because this
Speaker 1: it was going to be bowen and I were coming
Speaker 1: out as I think Christina Meredith and Christina, but I
Speaker 1: looked more like Izzy. So like the thing is we
Speaker 1: were said were Meredith in Christina, but clearly already it's
Speaker 1: really that happened. It was so blind, So already the
Speaker 1: bit was weird because people were like that because they're
Speaker 1: too hot. I was like too like Catherine Hagel, and
Speaker 1: so I was obviously crying out to like I was
Speaker 1: an incredible crier, like doing that. I write that I
Speaker 1: said I didn't know what hell mat um. So then
Speaker 1: I thought I was a surgeon. But I I thought
Speaker 1: it was a surgeon. But I'm not so well. I
Speaker 1: guess that puts an end to the evening. Meredith Meredith,
Speaker 1: what an incredible Fanali, it's a front runner for a
Speaker 1: lot of awards. It really is bo and actually I
Speaker 1: think that we have to talk about potentially chasing cars.
Speaker 1: The song getting the one Division Award for Television absolutely,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's a serious front runner. Great campaigning
Speaker 1: for that category has been I love Lucy in the
Speaker 1: in the grape stomping. Yes, you know that's a good one. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So we fully bombed anatomy dragon prov we bombed a
Speaker 1: happy karaoke fun time. But can we get a suggestion
Speaker 1: for a work? Yeah, we're from our story and improv career.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I can't believe this. Shonda okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Shanda's got a smile that it seems to me reminds
Speaker 1: me of Year of Yes, How do I get away
Speaker 1: with Murder? And bridget in anal sex was there? She
Speaker 1: wrote a book about saying yes because she sat he
Speaker 1: hasn't many times. That's how she got a business schedule.
Speaker 1: Never see something that was as funny as it ever
Speaker 1: couldn't be, couldn't and then that was that was That
Speaker 1: was the That was the lowest deeeling on the comedy.
Speaker 1: Ye did you guys write that? Because it feels written,
Speaker 1: It feels like you guys wrote it. Were just yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was so good that I thought
Speaker 1: you guys wrote it. And I actually think that this
Speaker 1: was so good that it was written and SNL is
Speaker 1: so good that they have to be improvising. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's clearly what it is. I'm always like wondering how
Speaker 1: do they get so funny? It must be just because
Speaker 1: they get a lot of funny people together just sort
Speaker 1: of mess around are you guys just like messing around?
Speaker 1: Just like yes, messing around. Wait, we have to say.
Speaker 1: We were at the dinner of the other night and
Speaker 1: the waiter pitch just sketch, but we have to say it,
Speaker 1: and it was don't don't pitch a sketch, you guys,
Speaker 1: come on, don't pitch a sketch. It was, it was,
Speaker 1: It was hard, and I think he learned a valuable
Speaker 1: lesson that night. I don't think he should we just
Speaker 1: I think he might have because the embarrassment was so
Speaker 1: I felt terrible, but I also didn't feel bad for
Speaker 1: sending that boundary because I will say that this was
Speaker 1: this was like a young man that I'm a young
Speaker 1: confident man that I wanted to teach like I wanted
Speaker 1: to teach like a mother, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I really I really wanted to explain to him,
Speaker 1: like I totally know where you're coming from and this
Speaker 1: is the way to do it, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you the way to do it. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: like appropriate. And then at the end I panicked and
Speaker 1: he said, can I pick you guys a sketch? And
Speaker 1: I went like this and we did all left because
Speaker 1: it was it was funny, and I honestly I was
Speaker 1: shook because when he asked the question, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm assessing myself right now in the situation,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm gonna like be like yeah and
Speaker 1: you being like please don't end up being a funny moment.
Speaker 1: I thought was the perfect way to handle that because
Speaker 1: we didn't have to hear it, and we tipped him big.
Speaker 1: I told him, I told him, please, don't let us
Speaker 1: tip you first. Let us tip you first, and then
Speaker 1: you know, we'll all have a good night or something
Speaker 1: like that. And then I told him later that you know, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't tell us because even if it's good, we
Speaker 1: can music because we'll get suit. But I did you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a lose lose, like there's no good way
Speaker 1: to get it. And I totally get it because I
Speaker 1: was young and I saw Mara Efron eating in a
Speaker 1: pan Quintitian and I thought like, this is my moment.
Speaker 1: She's going to see me writing in a notebook and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what are you writing. I'm engaging, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to know what she and she's wearing uggs
Speaker 1: that her mom got a target and they're not ugs
Speaker 1: but cobras or whatever, you know, And I thought, I
Speaker 1: really thought that now I wasn't like a young man,
Speaker 1: and so I didn't walk up to her in that moment. Writer,
Speaker 1: But there is just something. I was talking about this
Speaker 1: with Julio last night, like he was talking about now
Speaker 1: he like, his first year in New York, volunteered at
Speaker 1: the Tribeca Film System to watch films because he was
Speaker 1: like and then he thought, because he genuinely thought at
Speaker 1: the time, yeah, I do a good job. Maybe the
Speaker 1: last meet to submit a movie. And then and then
Speaker 1: I was like, this is for me like high school,
Speaker 1: middle school. I'm gonna go into Hollister and fold up
Speaker 1: some of the clothes that are like unfolded and made.
Speaker 1: They'll ask me to work there. Totally, totally, Where does
Speaker 1: that come from? Somebody? There's has to be something in
Speaker 1: media or something like our parents told us that was
Speaker 1: like that happens. Are you just like a fucking young idiot?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was just this guy
Speaker 1: was just young. But the other night I think he
Speaker 1: was also like, you know, maybe maybe like I think
Speaker 1: he genuinely thought he had a funny sketch on his
Speaker 1: hands and then probably and you know what, maybe what
Speaker 1: this is the crazy part is that had nor e
Speaker 1: Fron come up to you, she would have discovered that
Speaker 1: you we're one of the most talented writers of them
Speaker 1: that it's in the world. And so maybe what we've
Speaker 1: fucked up about we up is that we we're talking
Speaker 1: to the next Loren. Well, this is what I think
Speaker 1: is like the fantasy. I thought about this a lot
Speaker 1: because meant to be, but I've been I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to get cut. We're not saying not to be
Speaker 1: when it's summer of that's well, okay. So I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of experiences where you walk into a room
Speaker 1: full of very lucky to have these experiences that you
Speaker 1: walk into a room full of like your heroes, like
Speaker 1: the ultimately and there is this fantasy that I have
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people have where it's
Speaker 1: like when you are to meet Like one time I
Speaker 1: was walked into a room and it was Martin Short
Speaker 1: and Calf no Hara and then who is God, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm forgetting her name. She's also uh second
Speaker 1: City Canada person, not Andrew know Andrew Martin, Andrew Martin
Speaker 1: and god, I'm so annoyed. I forgot her name anyway,
Speaker 1: So I was working on Miam Marty and I had
Speaker 1: to give like Marty a new script or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, somebody told me, like he's in
Speaker 1: there with Katherine O'Hara and Andrew Martin, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and I was like, can I go in?
Speaker 1: And they really can go in just whatever, So I
Speaker 1: like go in to like put my little script completely
Speaker 1: interrupt their conversation, but also like whatever it might. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, um, Marty, and I told my little thing
Speaker 1: and then I just like stand there with like a
Speaker 1: big smile. And then I'm like you walk out the door.
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's actually every single interaction like that, What do you
Speaker 1: mean at the end, like stood there. I stood there
Speaker 1: for a beat, I smiled, and then I left. In
Speaker 1: your In my brain, I always have the fantasy of, like, oh,
Speaker 1: if I were to be at the ultimate dinner table
Speaker 1: of like everybody I've ever looked up to, And this
Speaker 1: is the fantasy, is that you sit down and they
Speaker 1: all go, oh, Sudi, have you met Sudi? Katherine O'Hara.
Speaker 1: This is Sudie and I love her and she's brilliant
Speaker 1: and she's the funniest person I've ever met. And actually,
Speaker 1: and actually she's the next you, and you should love
Speaker 1: her like she's your daughter. And um, Sudie, would you
Speaker 1: like to eat and drink whatever we're eating and drinking?
Speaker 1: And would you like to tell the story? And we'll
Speaker 1: all laugh and listen. But guess what it actually is?
Speaker 1: You lack in You give them the piece of paper,
Speaker 1: you smile, and you leave and if they and if
Speaker 1: they say keep pants, then you take that home and
Speaker 1: you never forget. I think that this fantasy is still
Speaker 1: maybe like incoming, though I've definitely had moments like I've
Speaker 1: been like, pinch me, like I can't believe like this
Speaker 1: person I look up to is saying something nice to me.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had those pinch me moments. But the thing
Speaker 1: is is when you're a room of when you're in
Speaker 1: a room great babe, you don't register and that's fine,
Speaker 1: and you know why you gotta do. You gotta find
Speaker 1: your own room full of grades, and um, bitch, that's
Speaker 1: where I am. And I'm including Walter Walter Walter I'm
Speaker 1: including you in your floral top and top where you
Speaker 1: get it the stores definitely in competition with us. We're
Speaker 1: Benobo's spokesmodels. I don't know if you've been on Fifth
Speaker 1: Avenue and check it out, Walter might like what you see?
Speaker 1: Um like I do right now. Um. Anyway, floating away
Speaker 1: from that to say, I think that for me, like
Speaker 1: that happens. And this is not to like plug, but
Speaker 1: when forces coming out for me, like when we were
Speaker 1: sitting before pandemic, when se Shawn Hayes would come in. Now,
Speaker 1: I like, I'm sort of you know, we're friends. We
Speaker 1: text whenever I like have him reach out to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this is a man like tonically
Speaker 1: funny Yeah, like when like it's just like and talk
Speaker 1: about like being one of the very first like truly
Speaker 1: gay men on television playing a gay character, like now
Speaker 1: that I have a relationship with him, that is that
Speaker 1: As a pinch me, I would say that Sean Hayes
Speaker 1: is like, low key one of my great comedic influences
Speaker 1: because I was so obsessed with Will and Grays growing
Speaker 1: up and it truly was like I remember watching like
Speaker 1: that Thursday night lineup my dad would always watch Thursday
Speaker 1: Night and like it was Friends into Well and Grace,
Speaker 1: Friends into into Fraser or something like that. I think
Speaker 1: Friends was first, because Will and Grace was definitely a
Speaker 1: step up in terms of it's going to be a
Speaker 1: little later and later than Night. Believe it was. I
Speaker 1: could be lying, but like Will and Grace was our
Speaker 1: favorite out of that lineup, and I have so many,
Speaker 1: so much of his timing. It's just like burnt into
Speaker 1: my brain. Like there's this one part where like later
Speaker 1: in the season, Debor Messing is with Harry Connick Jr.
Speaker 1: And he comes back from like Cambodia or something where
Speaker 1: he was that he was like doing Doctors without Borders,
Speaker 1: and he shows up with this woman that he's been
Speaker 1: sharing like a tent with like this like hot female doctor.
Speaker 1: The whole episode, Sean Hayes a K. Jack goes, I
Speaker 1: would die but die, Oh my god, my god, I
Speaker 1: would die. A radical show for its time. I know.
Speaker 1: It's like we say that now and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: ha ha m my My favorite Jack moment is um
Speaker 1: he's wearing his apron and then I think, uh, Debor
Speaker 1: Messing goes and then it says kiss the cook on it.
Speaker 1: She goes kiss the cook and then he goes he
Speaker 1: looks down at it and goes, oh. The audience loses
Speaker 1: oh oh, and then the audience is going crazy for
Speaker 1: like twenty seconds. Truly. I mean, I do love that
Speaker 1: I missed that, not to be like we need to
Speaker 1: go back to before, but like what I liked for
Speaker 1: one division was it reminded me of the live performance
Speaker 1: aspect of the sitcoms, like the way Katherine Harrock killed
Speaker 1: those first that first episode, the way she was like
Speaker 1: her coreo in her comedy like traveling and what did
Speaker 1: I say? Katherine Harron was like, who is this a
Speaker 1: new girl? My god? And please, I'm sorry, but honey,
Speaker 1: when you need to be corrected, you should be. It's
Speaker 1: actually a really culture number four. When you need to
Speaker 1: be corrected, you should be my mother. That's actually you
Speaker 1: know that would be like your mom is like you
Speaker 1: know that mom? Well, the thing about my mom is
Speaker 1: that she's very corrective, but she's kind of always right.
Speaker 1: The thing need to be corrected, you should be. Like
Speaker 1: what I was saying was like the Catherine han of
Speaker 1: it all, Like that's a type of performance now that
Speaker 1: you know you never get an audition to that type
Speaker 1: of stuff, like like honestly like thank god that like
Speaker 1: we got that role paired with that person in that
Speaker 1: type of acting environment because he was so incredible at it.
Speaker 1: He's an unbelievable physical comedian. Yes, yes, absolutely, it's crazy
Speaker 1: Sean Shan Shan Shan, And I gotta come on, can
Speaker 1: I say yes, you must talked about him? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that'd be great because I I was just gonna bring
Speaker 1: it up. This is my like ethnic animalog almost but
Speaker 1: not really. The first time, I might be the first
Speaker 1: time I worked with b D on the pilot for Nora,
Speaker 1: I was fully a fan. It was just like, can
Speaker 1: we take a picture together, and he kind of was
Speaker 1: like sure, Like at that time he wasn't. He was
Speaker 1: like probably so psyched. He he was just like no,
Speaker 1: I think he would cop to this. He was just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's a very like he's a very sedate and
Speaker 1: he was just like that. At that time. It was
Speaker 1: just like some like to him. I was just like
Speaker 1: some some dude like I like I hadn't I hadn't
Speaker 1: gotten hired sell yet, and I think he just didn't.
Speaker 1: And now he's just like maybe he like sends me
Speaker 1: like every kind of cheerleading message every week. You were
Speaker 1: his waiter in the restaurant, pitching he did not know
Speaker 1: who you were, and leading to who that young girl was.
Speaker 1: If this waiter asked for a picture, I'd been like sure,
Speaker 1: even though that's unprofessional the restaurant yet I've been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure was that wasn't I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: him too much. I feel that No, no, no, we're done.
Speaker 1: We're talking about her. We're talking about the impact of
Speaker 1: Will and Grace on television and how we watched television
Speaker 1: and Sean Hayes's abilities as a physical comedian. And now
Speaker 1: we've sort of expressed that sentiment. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Bet Wong basically didn't know he was speaking to Jesus
Speaker 1: at the time. Yes, yes, Yes, should we do the thing?
Speaker 1: Do the thing? Check in about everyone's summer of und
Speaker 1: You know, there was a glimmer of us. I feel
Speaker 1: like there was real potential of summer of unt there
Speaker 1: for a hot seconds. But we're all going through I know, God, Okay,
Speaker 1: should I go first? Go first? Okay, Well, what's coming
Speaker 1: on me? I'm famously moving to l A w This
Speaker 1: is this is a rebirth moment. It's huge study has
Speaker 1: sort of shed the skin of SNL. The cocoon of
Speaker 1: SNL has been sort of cast off. Thank you cocoon,
Speaker 1: Thank you Chrysalis cocoon. Yeah, I guess Chrysalis, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's so crazy. Don't work there anymore, but
Speaker 1: I do feel like spiritually I always will. Like it's
Speaker 1: very fucked up. It is so in many ways who
Speaker 1: I am. The fact that I worked there, like it
Speaker 1: just was my entire life really and like, um, it's
Speaker 1: also like a huge part of my identity in a
Speaker 1: weird in a weird way where it's like, I, you know, no,
Speaker 1: you take the good with the bad, I think, and
Speaker 1: like yeah, And now I'm in a place where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't work there anymore, but I do
Speaker 1: miss it and know that I will miss it, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like scared of like the first set back. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll watch, but I want to watch,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I will. You just just
Speaker 1: just make the call, like on the day, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's I think that you'll find your
Speaker 1: boundary with it, un once you see how you feel
Speaker 1: watching it. And also it might be different every week.
Speaker 1: I know I have talked to people who are like,
Speaker 1: I don't watch the episodes, but I watch clips that
Speaker 1: like I hear about. But it's also like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I want to see what people are doing, but it's
Speaker 1: so loaded. It's incredibly My friends, be funny. This is
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like anybody who UM works in Let's say,
Speaker 1: who was I talking to you recently? I mean, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's anybody like UM. Let's just generalize within
Speaker 1: our own like world. Like it's like anybody who works
Speaker 1: in TV goes home and they want to not watch productions.
Speaker 1: It's that thing. And so for you, maybe it's like
Speaker 1: you probably will just be so you'll have this incredibly
Speaker 1: immense top layer of awareness of like what went into
Speaker 1: what you're looking at any given moment, and that just
Speaker 1: feels like not pleasant. I think what will miss is
Speaker 1: the feeling of in the moment knowing that you can
Speaker 1: do it like that. That took me a while to
Speaker 1: get there, but I do feel like in my last
Speaker 1: like three years, I would have moments where I was
Speaker 1: running around and really busy, but knowing that I could
Speaker 1: handle what was happening, and that really felt like a
Speaker 1: superpower in a way. It felt like like one time,
Speaker 1: I love it, I go for this. I think this
Speaker 1: was like one of the first I think this was
Speaker 1: her first year where I was like we didn't really
Speaker 1: know each other that well yet, But then I was like,
Speaker 1: I love this bitch because she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was her first year. She's not in the show
Speaker 1: like a ton you know what I mean, she only
Speaker 1: knew cast like, so she felt a crushing sense of loneliness.
Speaker 1: I won't speak on her behalf, but I feel like
Speaker 1: that's like what her experience was. I'm so sorry to
Speaker 1: keep talking. Well, everybody's first yearious crushing, not to not
Speaker 1: to just diminished, but I'm like everybody's first years. That's
Speaker 1: how you could describe everybody's first Um No, but this
Speaker 1: is this is like she had a light show and
Speaker 1: she had gone to a store and she had come in,
Speaker 1: which is like totally fine to do. It was like,
Speaker 1: you have a huge block. No, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say the store. I don't want the store. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not the store. I just I just said a name. Um,
Speaker 1: And she had come in holding shopping. She was like
Speaker 1: saw me, like knocking on the door. I think I
Speaker 1: was like talking. I forget what I was talking abou
Speaker 1: maybe it was today because and she was like hi,
Speaker 1: and I was like hi, and then I like to
Speaker 1: knock the door. Okay, she's working. Okay, she's she's a
Speaker 1: woman at work. And I felt like so seen because
Speaker 1: that is how I felt. I felt like a little
Speaker 1: bit like okay, I'm like being a boss right now.
Speaker 1: And then she saw me and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like she's like recognizing this in this moment, and like
Speaker 1: it meant a lot to be seen by another woman
Speaker 1: in that moment when you're about to knock on the
Speaker 1: door and you're holding your papers and like you know
Speaker 1: you're about to This is a lot of this summer
Speaker 1: of kind of I wanted to talk about going into
Speaker 1: rooms and handing out papers because I think that's something
Speaker 1: that we haven't really gone to um. But I just
Speaker 1: felt like really seen by her in that moment um
Speaker 1: she was like literally, God, God, like can I say something?
Speaker 1: The reason I don't know if this feels too obvious
Speaker 1: or if it doesn't, even if it if it goes
Speaker 1: without saying, but the reason, I think your identity might
Speaker 1: feel wrapped up in that job. Is that is because
Speaker 1: you were so good at it. And I feel like
Speaker 1: we're saying earlier you can generalize what's universal about working
Speaker 1: there is that in your first year you feel crushing.
Speaker 1: When you arrive, you feel this crushing sense of loneliness.
Speaker 1: Everyone's reasons for leaving are so so so specific, and
Speaker 1: there is no universal thing, but like thematically ties them
Speaker 1: all together. And so for you to leave and for
Speaker 1: you to feel this way even after you've like even
Speaker 1: even as you're about to embark on this new chapter
Speaker 1: in your life, you are leaving in this way that
Speaker 1: is like bizarre because you're like, you could still do
Speaker 1: you could do that job forever. That's what's scary about it.
Speaker 1: You could have been a lifer. And I'm actually so glad.
Speaker 1: This is not to like despaired anybody who's done that
Speaker 1: or or I just think for you, that is not well.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be I wanted to be I wanted
Speaker 1: to be Paula pell I wanted to be and I
Speaker 1: think that I really, you know, had people respected me
Speaker 1: at that show and eventually and I feel like I
Speaker 1: really earned respect. But I kind of realized at a
Speaker 1: certain point that I was never going to be like
Speaker 1: beloved by certain people. I was never going to be uh,
Speaker 1: anybody's little darling, you know what I mean? And I
Speaker 1: was always going to be a worker. And honestly that
Speaker 1: um energy. Not that I need to be like praised
Speaker 1: or coddled or anything, but just feeling like I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was never going to be um cared for, not
Speaker 1: cared for, respected maybe, but not cared for. And many
Speaker 1: people at that show are very cared for, and being
Speaker 1: in that position it just made me feel like I
Speaker 1: am not getting out of what I'm putting. I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not getting out what I'm putting in, And what
Speaker 1: I was getting out was incredible things. Getting to make
Speaker 1: stupid ship with my friends that costs a lot of
Speaker 1: money to make and they let me make it Like
Speaker 1: that was like the end all be all, but it
Speaker 1: was too hard. It just gets too It doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be And I think That's what I'm excited about
Speaker 1: for you most of all, is the work life balance
Speaker 1: is going to rock your world right now. I already
Speaker 1: feel it. We literally like when study came to l A,
Speaker 1: like it was kind of funny. I did predict that
Speaker 1: she would find a place very quickly. Day one, you
Speaker 1: went out and saw like five places. I went to.
Speaker 1: It's like a little tiny little house. It's so cute.
Speaker 1: It's an apartment, but it's like it feels homish. It's
Speaker 1: like a half a duplex. Yeah, it's really really cute,
Speaker 1: and like just like being in there and like walking
Speaker 1: around and like planning where things were going to go.
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, this is a new beginning.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, it's just like you we
Speaker 1: all ask people, and I think this can apply to
Speaker 1: anyone in any career. You can stay at a job
Speaker 1: and love it, but you need to be able to
Speaker 1: create new beginnings for yourself at your place of work.
Speaker 1: You need to be able to in any environment make
Speaker 1: make it exciting for you and challenging for you, and
Speaker 1: also grow into a place where you're comfortable there. Change
Speaker 1: or die. I don't know. I've always had these moments
Speaker 1: in my life where I feel like it's time to leap.
Speaker 1: Like I have this image of like, you know, you're
Speaker 1: standing on this precipice and it's time to jump and
Speaker 1: fly and you might eat ship, but like that's okay too,
Speaker 1: because I've eaten plenty of ship and I have had that,
Speaker 1: and it kind of does end up happening. Like I think,
Speaker 1: like about like six years, isn't that isn't isn't that
Speaker 1: like what like scientifically it is to like every seven
Speaker 1: years that that's like a new cycle of expertise or
Speaker 1: of like like you just kind of like you hit
Speaker 1: a wall. Horrenda says six years and she's a scientist. Yes.
Speaker 1: In a recent interview, she literally said, for some reason,
Speaker 1: every six years I do have there's a change, there's
Speaker 1: a change. You know. Maybe I'll go back, maybe I won't.
Speaker 1: It's really not up to me. But I'm happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your Your impressions are really in the pocket because
Speaker 1: it's because it's there. I am zen when I am zen,
Speaker 1: When I am zen. When you're not going to tell
Speaker 1: me you are dismissed, you aren't dismissed. TikTok. I have
Speaker 1: time today, I do have to say I'm one of
Speaker 1: the most excited people in the world to watch Potomac tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're all gonna watch Potoma tonight and let's celebrate that.
Speaker 1: Let's celebrate and we are. And then White Lotos the finale.
Speaker 1: I will watch the premiere. I'll watch the finale. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think I feel like your energy around that
Speaker 1: has been like you're not really wanting to watch it,
Speaker 1: so you can watch the finale. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: I'll find who's in the damn box. It's too good,
Speaker 1: and I won't allow you gotta watch it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Whenever you want, on your own time. I've watched the premiere.
Speaker 1: I'll watch the boat episode, which I heard was fully improvised.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's a Jennifer Foolidge moment. You got
Speaker 1: to watch the whole thing. Okay, okay, whenever you have
Speaker 1: a chance. Um, I still haven't watched one Division yet.
Speaker 1: I watched the first episode like three months ago. Well,
Speaker 1: we have an award dedicated to it. I'm not keeping
Speaker 1: up with everything you two are doing every second of
Speaker 1: the day. Well we have an award. Like I'm listen
Speaker 1: to your tap. I barely comment because you know, I
Speaker 1: love you and I don't need to know everything because
Speaker 1: you're so president the episode, I wasn't you're so president
Speaker 1: on the episodes. My sister always tells me, she's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were talking about you and I love Oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love attention. Yeah, I love attention. Wait
Speaker 1: should we go back to six years like the Killing
Speaker 1: the six years? Or should be housewives? We've got a
Speaker 1: lot of done so six years done? Yes? What are
Speaker 1: you doing now? Um? I'm in the I love this
Speaker 1: for you, room readers. Um, it's so fabulous. Um, I
Speaker 1: love this for you. The show that Matt Rogers is
Speaker 1: going to be a serious damn regular on. That's Nasa Bear,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stay their name Vanessa Bear Jeremy Byler. That's actually
Speaker 1: a great duo. Such a good dude, Bear Byler. It's
Speaker 1: actually very full circle moment. First of all, because I'm
Speaker 1: writing for my baby, which is very important. And also
Speaker 1: Vanessa and Jeremy were kind to me in my first
Speaker 1: year of SNL, my crushing loneliness. I remember, We're kind
Speaker 1: to me in a way that they did not have
Speaker 1: to be and literally saved my experience there. There was
Speaker 1: like such a dark moment my first year at SNL
Speaker 1: where I forget what had happened. I had done another
Speaker 1: schedule I thought was good and then it didn't go
Speaker 1: and I just felt like I was giving my best
Speaker 1: and I like wasn't getting anything on, and I was
Speaker 1: so distracted and depressed walking to work that I walked
Speaker 1: into the street by my house and a car almost
Speaker 1: hit me because I wasn't paying attention and I was
Speaker 1: walking in the subway. And then I thought, this is
Speaker 1: how it happens. Like this is how things like this happens.
Speaker 1: Like you're distracted, you're like so sad, and like then
Speaker 1: like you just getting sucking hit by a car. And
Speaker 1: then I remember it was like, oh, I was going
Speaker 1: into a writer's night. And then that day Vanessa texted
Speaker 1: me and was like, Hey, we're talking about this thing.
Speaker 1: Would you come in and like pitch on it or whatever?
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting in her little office which was
Speaker 1: then my office, and sitting on her couch and being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm into Vanessa Bears couch and like
Speaker 1: pitching on like some commercial. I think it was like
Speaker 1: this lint chocolate truffle thing that they like put to
Speaker 1: the table a couple of times. It was so funny,
Speaker 1: and it was like just Vanessa being like Linda chocolate
Speaker 1: tier and she falls in love with this linch chocolate tier.
Speaker 1: It was very funny and and and then they would
Speaker 1: just so kindly reach out to me because like they knew,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, they just wanted me in
Speaker 1: the room to pitch, and I just couldn't I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it. And so the fact that their show is
Speaker 1: what I'm working on right out of us now with
Speaker 1: with with my sister here with MS Rogers, it's just
Speaker 1: too good, such perfect, perfect one time study. I was
Speaker 1: texting her a lot, like when she was first got
Speaker 1: the job, just to check in on her. And I
Speaker 1: remember like, at some point in the middle of the year,
Speaker 1: like you said that, Vanessa told you, like I just
Speaker 1: want you to know you can talk to me about stuff.
Speaker 1: And I just always remembered that, like I always remembered
Speaker 1: that Vanessa said that to her. She was the first
Speaker 1: cast member that ever said like, you know, I get
Speaker 1: that it's hard here sometimes and you can talk to
Speaker 1: me about that stuff, which is so did that she
Speaker 1: did that. She didn't have to do that, and you
Speaker 1: you you you would still cite Jeremy is like you
Speaker 1: were like You've always talked to me about like taught
Speaker 1: me so much. Yeah, you worked together a lot. You
Speaker 1: guys are on my m Marty together to Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you brought up Jeremy a lot in my first year
Speaker 1: working there as a writer, where you were like you'll
Speaker 1: get it, and like you know you just like you'll
Speaker 1: learn from the people who work here. Like my first
Speaker 1: year was Jeremy Bailer like showing me the Ropes and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's so, that's so generous. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even even like showing you. It's so the
Speaker 1: way that show works. And I think this is actually
Speaker 1: a way that a lot of things work, which is
Speaker 1: like people when you're like on a job, people don't
Speaker 1: sit you down and show you things, and if they do,
Speaker 1: it's maybe for like a day, for like an hour.
Speaker 1: Like really the best thing is to be a spot.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like I was watching Jeremy being
Speaker 1: like this is too long, we want to land on this,
Speaker 1: let's cut this. Well, we're at the bottom of page
Speaker 1: too like and then it me be like logging all
Speaker 1: of this ship. Um, you know it's I just remember,
Speaker 1: like it's so it's it makes such a positive impact
Speaker 1: when someone's new someplace to reach out to them and
Speaker 1: just be like just off for kindness, Like I remember
Speaker 1: what this is Like, it's I weirdly think they are comfortable.
Speaker 1: Like when I would start at a new restaurant, I
Speaker 1: would never feel so anxious that I did on those days,
Speaker 1: Like when you walk into a new restaurant and like
Speaker 1: you don't know where anything is and everything. I just remember,
Speaker 1: like and you want to be cool. And because also
Speaker 1: it's about like socially fitting in, because that's a whole
Speaker 1: other part of it, like where you go when you
Speaker 1: go to any new job, and I just remember, like
Speaker 1: the people who trained me when I was working in
Speaker 1: places like and now in my professional life as well,
Speaker 1: when people are nice, it means everything. And that's why,
Speaker 1: like like we were saying, like we always say, like
Speaker 1: it's just be being like a positive person in the
Speaker 1: work because the light even just not getting angry at
Speaker 1: someone they don't know where something is or how to
Speaker 1: do something like because I get like environments can be stressful.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about every time I didn't do what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Well, you know you're not always held
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, it's it's hard to all hard.
Speaker 1: Everybody is also always going through their own ship. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing too, which is why I like means
Speaker 1: so much when somebody is like, you know, going through
Speaker 1: a stressful time and then they do take that time
Speaker 1: to like yeah, but it's not realistic to um uh
Speaker 1: expect that everybody be the light always that Now. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's nice when that person is there, like
Speaker 1: and also like when you can when you find yourself
Speaker 1: in a situation where you can be that person, even
Speaker 1: if it's a little exhausting. Sometimes it's nice to give
Speaker 1: that extraf for just because I genuinely feel those things
Speaker 1: get paid back, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: I will never I'll never have a bad thought about
Speaker 1: someone who was kind to me when I was anxious,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I'm we're good going forward.
Speaker 1: That's why you know we see with Potomac, you know,
Speaker 1: Wendy's not being warm to me because Karen sort of
Speaker 1: did that with her. Is that what you're saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've we've seen Wendy be hazed, and you see the
Speaker 1: hazing happening with Gaselle and Robin as well. I mean
Speaker 1: with with miss Me with miss Me, and they better
Speaker 1: not come for a skolo. Hold on. Before we before
Speaker 1: we talk about Potomac, I just want to also say
Speaker 1: I didn't mean just I was literally just no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Potoma, but I just want
Speaker 1: to say I've there have been moments and I've pointed
Speaker 1: this out to meet to these people, to the to
Speaker 1: Sudy and Matt, but I just I am so warmed, heartwarmed.
Speaker 1: But by watching you too talk about this show and
Speaker 1: how excited you both are for I mean, like I want.
Speaker 1: When she said that she was going to meet on it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, every bone in my
Speaker 1: body was like, please make it, please, please, please please please,
Speaker 1: and that how that it's happening. I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: feel it's going to be such an amazing next step
Speaker 1: for you. Like I just think like that that's for
Speaker 1: me in a room like where I really feel like everyone,
Speaker 1: everybody is really good. And then I'm like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: like I actually have to really show up every day
Speaker 1: because that's like where the bar is, and and I
Speaker 1: like that all you can ask for. And when I
Speaker 1: was leaving SNL and I was thinking about what I
Speaker 1: want and I was like, you know, okay, well I'm
Speaker 1: going to work on my own stuff, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: what what about like you know, rooms like do I
Speaker 1: want to go straight into a room or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I was kind of like veering towards, like, let's not
Speaker 1: jump right into a job. And then I thought, if
Speaker 1: it's people that I know are amazing and I like
Speaker 1: and my friends, and also like people that I know
Speaker 1: that I can learn from, and that's why I told
Speaker 1: my was like, I really we want this job. I
Speaker 1: really want this job. And then I feel really lucky
Speaker 1: to be there. And Jesse Klein is show running and
Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan of hers, and if people
Speaker 1: haven't read her book is her book is so good.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the best comedy memoirs I've ever read. Also,
Speaker 1: I feel like she gets very real and honest in
Speaker 1: it in a way that I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of times those comedy memoirs it's very surface level because
Speaker 1: they just got the book deal. But it's like she
Speaker 1: has this incredible essay about like being at the Emmy's
Speaker 1: and for inside Amy Schumer and like having to pump.
Speaker 1: It's just like so fucking incredible. Anyway, Gus, ultimately the
Speaker 1: lifestyle shift is going to be very important for you,
Speaker 1: and I love that. And I also want to say,
Speaker 1: and we have to say when this happens. She found
Speaker 1: her hair. She found she found her hair, and there's
Speaker 1: really no I mean, there's no needs to really believe this.
Speaker 1: Maybe in six years. No, I I am going to
Speaker 1: have this hair. I'm gonna be like Lisa Rinna. I'm
Speaker 1: going to have this hair when I'm sixty years old.
Speaker 1: I'm never getting rid of it. It is there, It
Speaker 1: is the hair. And I feel like I can say
Speaker 1: that because I'm talking about my hair and this shag,
Speaker 1: this L. M. Hoff thing that I'm doing. You know, Sandra,
Speaker 1: I think a fair copp is Sandra Oh. And I
Speaker 1: think on certain days, depending on where it lays, it's
Speaker 1: a little gen z l. I'm off when I'm feeling young,
Speaker 1: but um uh, you know it's gonna. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it goes out of style. I think I have classic.
Speaker 1: I think I have to do curly banks because I
Speaker 1: think I have a gigantic forehead and a huge head. Honestly,
Speaker 1: a huge No, I really do. And I think that
Speaker 1: banks are really a game changer. And so many hairdressers
Speaker 1: in my life told me that you can't have early banks.
Speaker 1: And then my hairdresser, who is a queen, Michelle at
Speaker 1: head Dress okay, but don't go and get my exact haircut.
Speaker 1: Please get creative, because I have I have, I have
Speaker 1: to guess on Michelle because she is an artist and
Speaker 1: I want her to have all the clients and all
Speaker 1: the money. But also I know some people who have
Speaker 1: gone and kind of gotten my haircut. So don't do that.
Speaker 1: But get a good haircut from Michelle because she can
Speaker 1: do a lot of things. We love Michelle, and you
Speaker 1: can get my haircut, but make it your own, bitch, Like,
Speaker 1: don't even don't tell me you went to my hairdresser
Speaker 1: and show up with my exact hair It's like, do that,
Speaker 1: but at least hide it on your own journey. You
Speaker 1: found that organically. That's so fucked up because organically, fucking
Speaker 1: Danny Ray told me about it, because Jody Smell hair
Speaker 1: queen told me to go. Everybody, yeah, effort. But important
Speaker 1: is that you landed like and you landed in a
Speaker 1: place where you found your hair and if you got
Speaker 1: my hair cut, you know who you are. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: now can I just really quickly, um just I also
Speaker 1: want to add as an adendum, add as an addendum redundant.
Speaker 1: But the beautiful thing to me is like in terms
Speaker 1: of this triangle, like it's the first time in a
Speaker 1: while I would say that I've seen you too, like
Speaker 1: connect over, Like Matt's listened to you and me study
Speaker 1: talk about s and il fucking for years, and it's
Speaker 1: probably like he's probably like he's you've You've You've always listened,
Speaker 1: You've always been there and supportive, but like I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's sick of hearing us talk about this Studi's listen
Speaker 1: to me and Matt talked about podcast ship for however,
Speaker 1: however long too. It's like this is the perfect way
Speaker 1: to like we had many years of working very closely, right,
Speaker 1: but then there was there was there was like a
Speaker 1: black box period like you, but I also and you know,
Speaker 1: I think like honestly, if I was to be totally honest,
Speaker 1: like when you guys both start, the blow was less
Speaker 1: than with you. But I knew what to expect because
Speaker 1: the when you did start working at that job and
Speaker 1: it is so demanding, I told myself like, oh but
Speaker 1: we'll still be able to like keep up this level
Speaker 1: of working together, but that was just not a possibility.
Speaker 1: So by the tragic you know, in a way, it's
Speaker 1: definitely like it's not tragic because ultimately, what I ultimately
Speaker 1: told myself was this is going to benefit everyone in
Speaker 1: the orbit creatively at some point, and you're willing to
Speaker 1: when you are doing this career and like you really
Speaker 1: mean it and you really know you can do it.
Speaker 1: That's actually an investment in the future. And it's like
Speaker 1: you have to invest in your community around you, which
Speaker 1: is why it's like been said a million times. But truly,
Speaker 1: a rising tide does lift all ships. And I think
Speaker 1: if there's anything, there's a little thing in your head
Speaker 1: that has an insecurity, the little voice in the back
Speaker 1: of your head says, oh, well, you won't be able
Speaker 1: to keep up with that. But like, and and what's
Speaker 1: so nice about what you're saying about meeting here is
Speaker 1: it's like it is validating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that we get to do this now
Speaker 1: and work on the same project is like very and
Speaker 1: we're very fortunate. It is a dream that we are
Speaker 1: lucky as hell and one of the three of us
Speaker 1: going to make a little show together and I'm going
Speaker 1: to just pitch something, Okay, happy karaoke, Well, just so
Speaker 1: you know, we are bad on HBO. Max. It's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the first bad show. It'll be the
Speaker 1: first It'll be the first bad show to be good.
Speaker 1: And I think I hope the budget is a big budget.
Speaker 1: Have you guys watched Boy Island. I'm not with with
Speaker 1: looks so funny on it. I have not watched a
Speaker 1: second of it, and I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that it's called and
Speaker 1: then it feels like thirty rock and I but it
Speaker 1: literally feels like a thirty rock joke. So f y,
Speaker 1: I well, I just know that HBO Max is going
Speaker 1: in the direction of like what we're all reality is
Speaker 1: going where they really like it to be arcs, like
Speaker 1: they love like narratives. And I'm like, that's so funny
Speaker 1: that there's a television show called boy Island that I
Speaker 1: could invest in. I could invest in what you mean,
Speaker 1: like that it's called fun boy Island and it could
Speaker 1: be something I watched week two weeks where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're tracking stories, yeah, and it's and you're tracking a story, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but not when it's abjectly as much as was
Speaker 1: like funny, as like fuck boy, that literally is a
Speaker 1: thirty rock joke. And it started with some of the
Speaker 1: Quimby shows when they were like these sound like thirty
Speaker 1: rock jokes. I'm like, Mama, look on television, it's fun
Speaker 1: Boy Island. Like everything is a thirty rock point. We're
Speaker 1: leaning in, We're leaning into thirty rock being reality. I'm
Speaker 1: President Trump, Death to all of them? What Trump? I'm blanking?
Speaker 1: Remember dump huge? I think that's something like he's got
Speaker 1: a big fat booty like Rump is good. Hey Trump,
Speaker 1: nice Rump, your big old dump dump. I'm crying. You're
Speaker 1: crying laughing right now, readers. Bowen is crying. Am I
Speaker 1: out to say, readers, Yes, that's what they are. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: big things in the future, Matt, you want to go next, Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll go next. Um. You know. I am in New
Speaker 1: York shooting the film Fire Islands, and we are Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of funny, like very little of the
Speaker 1: time we've spent has felt like work. Like I think
Speaker 1: that you're you have you your role is obviously larger
Speaker 1: than mine, and like you have some like real work
Speaker 1: to do in the movie. Like there's like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's difficult material for you. For me, I have just
Speaker 1: been having the best time, Like I'm just like kind
Speaker 1: of doing my little like thing like playing, and then
Speaker 1: later on in this in the shoot schedule, like there's
Speaker 1: like some stuff but um, but it's just as the Lydia,
Speaker 1: I you know, famously Lydia. If you're if you're portraying Lydia,
Speaker 1: you have some demands. Um. Absolutely to be a dumblest
Speaker 1: one's Lydia creates scandal in the Bennett household. I'm really
Speaker 1: and you know, I've actually been thinking a lot about
Speaker 1: It's so funny when when we announced that it was happening,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, of course, Matt is Lydia. Matt is
Speaker 1: the only Lydia. And it started to feel like a
Speaker 1: drag and I was like, Okay, what are they saying?
Speaker 1: When I read Pride and Prejudice, I was reading Jane
Speaker 1: Austen's words and reading Lydia's story and thinking, this is
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. Is it true? People? People are like the
Speaker 1: fucking Edwardian novel of like women working their way ups.
Speaker 1: But literally the response was like, of course you are Lydia.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, perfect, Like I love it
Speaker 1: and I have been like examining it and I do
Speaker 1: like you know, you remember, I mean like Jane Austen,
Speaker 1: you know she she is talented girl, girl, talented writer girl,
Speaker 1: you know. But I're a smart, funny you know her.
Speaker 1: What happened. She get married, she had kids, she moved,
Speaker 1: she moved and she got married and she had kids.
Speaker 1: And now I think I want to say that she's
Speaker 1: like farming. Yeah, yeah, you know that's hard. Farming is hard.
Speaker 1: She always wanted to farm. Yeah, and she has helped. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. That's the that's the thing, you know.
Speaker 1: She You don't do it alone, no, no one does.
Speaker 1: It takes a village. But if you can pay for help,
Speaker 1: that it's fine. Like then Jane Austin can pay for help, right,
Speaker 1: you know, real farmers, right? And how much is she farming? Really?
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like is you know, picking up
Speaker 1: the harvest and canning maybe a few peaches, like making
Speaker 1: her fragrances. Her name is on it. Her name's on it, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Guess who's in the photos with the beats and then
Speaker 1: the Jane, Yeah, Jane. She's really there to sell it
Speaker 1: move products, which is work. She looks great though, beautiful,
Speaker 1: she looks really beautiful. She got she got all the Yeah,
Speaker 1: beautiful girl. Beautiful girl. Okay, So anyway, just like really
Speaker 1: enjoying getting to know the cast and like it's a
Speaker 1: really fun group of people. And um, it's funny that
Speaker 1: you said like the m being in proximity to heroes
Speaker 1: thing before because Margaret Trow was fully on the movie
Speaker 1: and like it's such a like a wild thing for
Speaker 1: the journey to go from. We were too afraid to
Speaker 1: ask her the question. Now she's like, now she's like
Speaker 1: a colleague. She's a colleague and she's telling us a
Speaker 1: great story. I mean to ask. Well, famously, she was
Speaker 1: the only person that we did not ask the question
Speaker 1: of what was the culture because we were so I
Speaker 1: don't think and it's not like that was when we
Speaker 1: were really a baby podcast and we traveled up to
Speaker 1: go interview her, and I remember it was one of
Speaker 1: the most nerve rack. I've never seen a more nervous Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. She was. I mean, I'm comfortable saying this
Speaker 1: even though it's not necessarily hashtag cool, but she was
Speaker 1: my comedic hero. Yeah. I mean she taught me. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually told her this when she was on the podcast. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think she received it. Now I'm kind of
Speaker 1: just like hey girl, but um um, which is you know,
Speaker 1: its own type of mind fuck. But I when I
Speaker 1: listened to her stand up albums when I was in
Speaker 1: middle school, she taught me what my sense of humor
Speaker 1: was like in a way, it was like revealed to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's what I think is funny.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear more of. Like this
Speaker 1: type of queer comedy I had never heard before. I
Speaker 1: didn't get the references. Like one of my favorite joke
Speaker 1: runs ever was CC Bloom. I mean like when she
Speaker 1: went into how there was a bar named after Bette
Speaker 1: Mitler's character and beaches in San Francisco, and how she
Speaker 1: said it was that was the gayest thing I have
Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. And just the audience dying,
Speaker 1: and how you could feel her as a performer even
Speaker 1: just listening to it. It was just and I truly
Speaker 1: when I was at that age, I mean, this was
Speaker 1: when I was realizing who I was in terms of
Speaker 1: I mean, in many ways, the culture of the names
Speaker 1: like culture was for me in a way. Um. But
Speaker 1: now it's like we're doing a movie with her, and
Speaker 1: like we get to talk to her and like work
Speaker 1: with her and like, you know, there was a scene
Speaker 1: we did this dinner scene the other night and she
Speaker 1: was doing something and but before they called action, she
Speaker 1: like looked over and shook me in the eyes like
Speaker 1: she was mid telling me the story, like in the
Speaker 1: setup before the shot, and I was like, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Margaret doing a movie. That's what I also all
Speaker 1: summer like, I mean, y'all hurt conversation. I've been in
Speaker 1: New York a lot, and I'm just trying to have
Speaker 1: fun and you know, like really enjoy everything because I
Speaker 1: think after like who knows what's going on with um,
Speaker 1: you know, the not to bring it up at vary
Speaker 1: engine everything. But we've had like a really nice moment
Speaker 1: where we have all been able to have like some
Speaker 1: semblance of a social life in a summer and getting
Speaker 1: to do all these fun things. So it's been really
Speaker 1: nice and I'm trying to enjoy whatever you know is
Speaker 1: left of it. And I'm also so happy because we
Speaker 1: really have been able to see so much more of
Speaker 1: each other, and I really like being able to see
Speaker 1: you all the time and like us be able to
Speaker 1: be there for each other like when we're laughing, and
Speaker 1: also need someone to talk to. It's really special, and
Speaker 1: you know, I really think we're so lucky to have that,
Speaker 1: and so like when and then Sudie with you moving
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, like I know that we're going to
Speaker 1: spend so much more time together than we've have in
Speaker 1: such a long time. Really why I'm moving? I mean,
Speaker 1: it isn't it isn't. I mean like it is. Though
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. When I'm
Speaker 1: with the two of you, I feel like the most
Speaker 1: like myself than I ever am. Like, it feels like family.
Speaker 1: It feels also like I'm not thinking about a damn thing,
Speaker 1: and like pack and watch Potomac envy with us. That's
Speaker 1: the vibe exactly. That's what we're doing tonight. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be putting coats in suitcases and seeing what the
Speaker 1: hell wend you have to say that, Gisel. At the
Speaker 1: same time we're ignoring Scala, we're erasing Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love the scalar Con sisters. Your hair. Does she
Speaker 1: go to your bar? Your Michelle? I'm sure that Escalan
Speaker 1: and I go to the same hairdresser is pulling some
Speaker 1: looks that are reminiscent of Taylor Swift. Red Era. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you go for it. That's with this where we are.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Scala like more than probably we have Ashley,
Speaker 1: and Ashley is a main cast member and has going
Speaker 1: through a lot. She had a child, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about Scalar more because Escala has the in factor. And
Speaker 1: when we when we get to the point where all
Speaker 1: of a sudden we cut to a confessional and it's
Speaker 1: a Scala. I'm going to scream, scream at the top
Speaker 1: of my and it's gonna be a meme, like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, it's just gonna be the first. And
Speaker 1: I know if her stylist isn't an idiot, they need
Speaker 1: to give her a huge Christina Aguilera and Mulan rouge
Speaker 1: Wig and it needs to be like truly a moment
Speaker 1: because what we have with the Scala is potential and
Speaker 1: I want to see it played out. Scala is a
Speaker 1: star and she has her son analogies. Our apologies do
Speaker 1: so does anyone want to apologize for anything? Our apologies do? Again?
Speaker 1: I feel she's not thinking in that moment exactly for me.
Speaker 1: With you two, it's like the same. That is just
Speaker 1: so I think that's that's the power. That's why she's
Speaker 1: so impactful to me is because it's like, oh, she
Speaker 1: she's being very real, literally person. I can honestly see
Speaker 1: her as like a Kyle, like somebody now it's going
Speaker 1: too far, see her being like we're seeing she's the storyteller.
Speaker 1: She's the one explaining the narrative to us. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's the way she grounded. I mean, I I think
Speaker 1: that if she had started at the beginning right now,
Speaker 1: she would be center couch because I think that Kyle
Speaker 1: is our way and she's she's exactly and like she is.
Speaker 1: She knows how far at this point. She hasn't always known,
Speaker 1: but Kyle knows how far to go. If you watch
Speaker 1: from season one, Kyle is the protagonist of Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: and actually everything that happens on the show, Kyle is
Speaker 1: the protagonist. Her When Erica is breaking down and her
Speaker 1: Mace Scarrett is running, we're with Kyle, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like Kyle is the protagonist, like Erica is
Speaker 1: Kyle's friend in the show. Now, but they find a
Speaker 1: way to build girl. I cannot watch the show though,
Speaker 1: without thinking about Hidi and Cecily's bit do you took
Speaker 1: out of the power where they sit down at least,
Speaker 1: like love, this couch is this purple. Look at the whale.
Speaker 1: There's a little whale on the wall. There's that. A
Speaker 1: whale's a whale seafood. Oh, I wonder what they got here.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry. That's not hungry. If we're hungry, let's eat.
Speaker 1: I mean, what we're gonna do, not eat? We have
Speaker 1: to eat at some pointable table over there on the couch.
Speaker 1: We can sit and eat. So Erica, she could go
Speaker 1: to jail. I love. Then the housewives discourse has creeped
Speaker 1: into the section for my culture because that really makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense because it is the culture that
Speaker 1: I consume but decompressors down. Um, that's what that show is. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and other otherwise, like in terms of life
Speaker 1: stuff like super excited that you're coming, and very excited,
Speaker 1: and like I feel very grateful that I get to
Speaker 1: be a part of very queer projects that I think
Speaker 1: are going to be fucking great, like the way Fire
Speaker 1: Island is cast and the creative team on it, and
Speaker 1: also Q Force is coming out and I'm really excited
Speaker 1: for that, and like Booked and I'm really excited for um,
Speaker 1: you know, in the new year to shoot the Vanessa Show.
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling good job, baby, And I have to
Speaker 1: say that you are working your little butt off. You
Speaker 1: have such an incredible work ethic, you bring it incredible
Speaker 1: energy to everything you do. And he's an ascala. I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt is a star, reliable star, natural star personality. Mr personality.
Speaker 1: Do you agree, Walter? Okay, he goes, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Boby stuck in terms of us of the summer of Cunt,
Speaker 1: I might this might be a summer that I just
Speaker 1: I can't access the cunt unfortunately. And that's okay, that's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean I've I've talked to you guys
Speaker 1: about this, like off offline, but um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I just really have to, like I have not
Speaker 1: had to genuinely like confront uh the way that I
Speaker 1: am comfortable with infuriy already, Like my whole life, I've
Speaker 1: been like that's where I've been that I've just I've been.
Speaker 1: I'm used to it. I'm used to feeling um bad
Speaker 1: about myself and I think this anything anything working on
Speaker 1: this movie, which I'm so grateful for, um, but as
Speaker 1: the Jane right she goes through probably would would you
Speaker 1: guys say that Jane Bennett goes through like the worst
Speaker 1: time in the book, Or maybe I would say that
Speaker 1: Jane is a character who honestly befalls great personal humiliation
Speaker 1: and hurt. And it's hard to put yourself in that
Speaker 1: spot when you're when you're someone who struggles with like us,
Speaker 1: I guess like, would you say self esteem? Yes? And
Speaker 1: that's that's that's basically what's going on. And Julio is
Speaker 1: pointing this out. He was like, this is this is
Speaker 1: a movie that um thematically is like testing a lot
Speaker 1: of different things in your life. And the only thing
Speaker 1: that would have made it worse was if you know
Speaker 1: your character like had like insane like it was, if
Speaker 1: your character was put in conversion there right like that
Speaker 1: that was that would be like so much more real
Speaker 1: and so much harder to separate that from like Bowen
Speaker 1: And um, your dear friend wrote it too, So there's
Speaker 1: like and it's so and it's so well written in
Speaker 1: Joel is very vivid, so vivid, and it's so it's
Speaker 1: so lived in and all those words around ratives, but um,
Speaker 1: it's I don't feel inferior. Now that's so crazy to me.
Speaker 1: I feel, I feel and just just I know in
Speaker 1: context it makes no sense because like I've had a
Speaker 1: great summer but in a wonderful something and like, I know,
Speaker 1: this is like a moment where I should be like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be grateful, you gotta like really just like
Speaker 1: drum that up at any given moment. But I'm like
Speaker 1: Something's happened in the last few weeks where I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is um where I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just I yeah, I don't know. And I've and
Speaker 1: I've had and I've had hard scenes so far where
Speaker 1: like literally Andrew On our director, has like told me
Speaker 1: to like in this one scene, okay, now you gotta
Speaker 1: now you need to look at the mirror and just
Speaker 1: like really like ask yourself, like am I ugly like
Speaker 1: like like truly like dig for that. And I think
Speaker 1: it's like really fucked up. And now I like, now
Speaker 1: I understand what because any time I've heard actors say like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really had to get home with me
Speaker 1: with me, I needed to shake the arcter off and
Speaker 1: all these things like what does that even mean? Whatever,
Speaker 1: It's like easy, You're you're reading words off the page, okay,
Speaker 1: Julianne Moore, you know, like truly, I'm like, what what what?
Speaker 1: What is? What it's worth? It is? And I keep
Speaker 1: reminding I'm always I always feel so stupid when I'm
Speaker 1: reminding myself, like, oh right, acting is hard, you know anyway,
Speaker 1: that's what makes it art though, And I think that
Speaker 1: like what I guess what I maybe is this is
Speaker 1: a solution here emotionally, not a solution, but something useful
Speaker 1: is like to understand that because you have an understanding
Speaker 1: of that experience and because you have an identification with
Speaker 1: what the character goes through, what you're going to do
Speaker 1: is project that with the truth to people who will
Speaker 1: feel seen by what in the book Jane Wins and like,
Speaker 1: and not to give spoilers about the movie, but like
Speaker 1: you know, what you're going to reflect back is really
Speaker 1: something very beautiful and touching. And while it may feel
Speaker 1: like you are person totally like far from that, Like
Speaker 1: I think that like at least what you can know
Speaker 1: that like you're going to give like such a truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be upset, And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And sometimes I just feel like I've been
Speaker 1: getting so upset so often that it just feels like
Speaker 1: people are there's a lot hiding me for it or
Speaker 1: like scolding me. There's a lot going on, and here
Speaker 1: you talk about it like the way that you talk
Speaker 1: about it. I think it must be difficult to howeveryone
Speaker 1: be like you deserve all these things, you deserve all
Speaker 1: these things when inherently you don't believe it, And all
Speaker 1: I want to do is believe it. That's all I
Speaker 1: ever want for you to do, is just genuinely I
Speaker 1: was I was believing it for a long time, and
Speaker 1: you're you're you're talking about like, oh, like you've lived
Speaker 1: through this in your real life, and I'm like, and
Speaker 1: I thought I got away from it. I thought I
Speaker 1: I thought I thought I was so past it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, look at me. I'm like doing great.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these incredible things and all my dreams
Speaker 1: are coming true. And I'm like, oh, but wait, it's
Speaker 1: still there. No, No, maybe it's it's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I'm sorry. I don't don't apologize because you
Speaker 1: know what, it's very real and I want you to
Speaker 1: know that, like it's it's okay. To have like any
Speaker 1: emotion that you have and stop thinking about how everyone
Speaker 1: else is gonna like receive it or take it. Guess
Speaker 1: what you are living your life. And all I want
Speaker 1: for you to do is and and the thing is like, no,
Speaker 1: we're okay, Yeah I don't. I don't need to thank
Speaker 1: you all. All I want you to do is to
Speaker 1: know that like I'm I'm feeling for you so hard
Speaker 1: that it's hard right now, but you will feel good
Speaker 1: against okay, and we'll just fight through it, all right,
Speaker 1: and and and it's all going to be fine. I'm
Speaker 1: We're we are so here for you. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I think that what you're saying about like I should
Speaker 1: be grateful and all this stuff, which is like two
Speaker 1: things can be true. Two things can be true. You
Speaker 1: can have the perspective. I mean, we're sitting here and
Speaker 1: we're like looking at what we get to do, and
Speaker 1: we're all like recognize how rare and lucky we are.
Speaker 1: But your day to day is still your day to day.
Speaker 1: It's a lot, and it's still it's not even pressure.
Speaker 1: It's just like I'm looking at like you know, like
Speaker 1: the schedule, and I'm like I'm like putting in my account.
Speaker 1: I'm like, legit clerically doing a lot of work where
Speaker 1: I'm like, which I like to do, but I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta so this thing will be on that data,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, I'm doing a lot of like
Speaker 1: emotional logistics, if that makes sense, and that is fucking weird.
Speaker 1: I wonder how who can help with that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, it's it's not that like I need
Speaker 1: to like get help. It's just that I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is this is this is part of the work, and
Speaker 1: it's like my I'm thrilled and honored and I couldn't
Speaker 1: be luckier that this is like the project that I
Speaker 1: get to do the song for the first time, like
Speaker 1: in a long like you know, for sustain a period
Speaker 1: of time. I'm like playing, I'm inhabiting one person whatever.
Speaker 1: I know, But you're also doing this for the first
Speaker 1: time to like this kind of work, and so I
Speaker 1: feel like it is everything that you're going through and
Speaker 1: talking about it seems very actually natural to me, and
Speaker 1: like yeah, like what Matt was saying, which is like
Speaker 1: I just feel you're feelings, judge the feeling. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: totally totally. He literally said that last week, Um, I
Speaker 1: just you know, I guess, and I know that you've
Speaker 1: been feeling this way, and I think sometimes like for me,
Speaker 1: it's just like I just want to make it better
Speaker 1: for you. Sometimes I feel like I I sometimes do
Speaker 1: so much to try to make you happy and like
Speaker 1: I almost like try to force feed joy onto you.
Speaker 1: And I also want to tell you that, like I
Speaker 1: do validate how you're feeling, and I want you to
Speaker 1: know like if I ever project to you like, um,
Speaker 1: like why are you doing this? Like like like whenever
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I really want to week off and
Speaker 1: I'm like, um, you know, and I'm whatever. All I'm
Speaker 1: just saying is I do hear you? And like no,
Speaker 1: we both hear you, and now you do know I know,
Speaker 1: I know. It's just I'll get through it. Um the
Speaker 1: only ways through with these things. And like I got
Speaker 1: I have fun things waiting for me too, and I'm
Speaker 1: like god, like I I looked out like crazy with
Speaker 1: everything and so like that, and that can also be
Speaker 1: concurrently true with like all the shitty parts of how
Speaker 1: I'm feeling now too, and like tonight I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: Potomac and like laugh my ass off. What are we
Speaker 1: gonna worker I would like to do honestly, well, never
Speaker 1: mind what because what I want to do is like
Speaker 1: something we kind of just did. I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not like that. What is what is
Speaker 1: the birds of a feather? Yeah? That, like this is
Speaker 1: amazing also kings of Kings cad. I also feel like,
Speaker 1: bring it back to bone and I'm sorry, don't you No, no,
Speaker 1: you should express because I feel like we're speech ifying
Speaker 1: at you and like and you guys don't have to
Speaker 1: do that either. Neither of you are ever under any
Speaker 1: obligation to make have to make me feel better about anything. Um,
Speaker 1: I just want you to feel the thing that we
Speaker 1: all deal with. So it's I think it's a really
Speaker 1: important thing to talk about because I think that you
Speaker 1: bring yourself to every situation, you bring your ship to
Speaker 1: every situation. And like, I feel like I'm a big
Speaker 1: compartmentalizer and a big disassociator huge that is how I
Speaker 1: function in stressful situations. And that is bad, very bad
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Because sometimes I put something
Speaker 1: in a box and I put it away so because
Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with it right now, and then it
Speaker 1: shows up in a huge way, and I'm like, where
Speaker 1: the fund did this come from? I put that box
Speaker 1: away so I could deal with it later. And then
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't get to decide when you have to
Speaker 1: open the box. Yeah, totally. But also I think that
Speaker 1: to two things can be true, many things can be true.
Speaker 1: Hold no want nuance, no wance, no nuance, because it's
Speaker 1: also like, look, you're going through this fucking emotional ship.
Speaker 1: You're taking it home, you're bringing it's bringing up all
Speaker 1: of this you know, trash feelings. Yeah yeah, but also
Speaker 1: you can live in a moment that's joyous hanging out
Speaker 1: with friends on set or like you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to go to them, He's together. I'm so fucking excited.
Speaker 1: That should be a joyous, celebratory time no matter what.
Speaker 1: And like, I don't know, maybe I'm asking for too
Speaker 1: much compartmentalization, but I do feel like that helps me,
Speaker 1: Like you know, but it's so hard, and I think
Speaker 1: the opposite thing where I'm like not compartmentalizing anything, and
Speaker 1: I might run my mouth and like nothing. There are
Speaker 1: no boundaries when it comes to things, and I never
Speaker 1: set them. Where do you think that comes from? Um?
Speaker 1: Never getting the opportunity to maybe like, but it's fine,
Speaker 1: what do You're never getting the opportunity to I was
Speaker 1: being foisted the boundaries from like from someone else all
Speaker 1: my life, which is which is fine, Like I don't
Speaker 1: I don't have to unpack that now. Literally, my therapist
Speaker 1: is on vacation for two weeks and so this is
Speaker 1: timing out wonderfully. Everyone is always on vacation. It's like
Speaker 1: one of the most horrifying things about the world. I
Speaker 1: think we should be on vacation at the same time, Like,
Speaker 1: do you know how many times, well people in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, Actually they're always on vacation. That is true.
Speaker 1: I think we should all be on vacation more and
Speaker 1: ignore with you And I really want to go with
Speaker 1: my sisters to go down to Orlando to ride the
Speaker 1: Veloci coaster. Well, I want to go to fucking Grease bitch. Um,
Speaker 1: I know, but so far there's no park there. Bitch.
Speaker 1: You are Greek and we're gonna sit. We're going to
Speaker 1: have the most to Greece. To be Greek, I can
Speaker 1: go to Orlando would be Greek, should be we should
Speaker 1: be like France and everybody should just be like off
Speaker 1: for the month of the August, the worst month Matt
Speaker 1: has to travel. Matt has a season effective disorder during August,
Speaker 1: only in New York. This season of August. You don't
Speaker 1: like New York in August. I have a disease, seasonal
Speaker 1: defective disorder where I can't like in New York in August.
Speaker 1: To the human I didn't know that it was. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's just so different everywhere else. I will say,
Speaker 1: August for me is a trigger month. I know, I
Speaker 1: literally brave and bold enough to say that. Not. It's
Speaker 1: not only just the humidity. It's because every single year,
Speaker 1: when you're in your twenties doing sketch comedy, August is
Speaker 1: when SNL rears its head and I have so much
Speaker 1: trauma from that month, um that it actually was a
Speaker 1: big reason why I had to move. Yes, yes, do
Speaker 1: you think over time you will build more distance? No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me anymore. It doesn't. You said the
Speaker 1: other day, well that for this year, it's exclusive because
Speaker 1: it's exclusively the weather in New York this time, because
Speaker 1: now it's like it's like that thing of like you know,
Speaker 1: when you were anxious going to school and you could
Speaker 1: feel it turned to September and like you smell the
Speaker 1: air and you feel an anxiety. I kind of have
Speaker 1: that with the month of August now in New York
Speaker 1: because the humidity reminds me of a slog at a
Speaker 1: time when I was like stressed out and unhappy. So
Speaker 1: every time I'm here now, it's like kind of a
Speaker 1: fight and I have, I have, and I'm brave enough
Speaker 1: to say I have cried of the days I've been sorry,
Speaker 1: not even yeah, but it's okay. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: literally like it's fine because I am genuinely very happy,
Speaker 1: but like there's something about the heaviness of the humidity
Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's also like a time for
Speaker 1: me where things are changing a lot and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of shift, like and also you know, there's so
Speaker 1: much uncertainty that sometimes it is nice to just and
Speaker 1: I am water water water water water signs prior, like
Speaker 1: it's just it just is what it is. August is
Speaker 1: an interesting time because I feel like there is like
Speaker 1: a cognitive dissonance with August where it's like it is
Speaker 1: the time where the environment, the heat, the weather, the
Speaker 1: summer is winding down, sooner will be the fall, which
Speaker 1: is go, go, go, go go. There's a moment where
Speaker 1: you're like, well, I should be like resting by the
Speaker 1: beach or whatever. But it's also a time where ship
Speaker 1: always ends up sucking happening, and so you're in like
Speaker 1: heat of like I should be on the beach. And
Speaker 1: then it's like send this, do this. It's weird. It's
Speaker 1: back to school culture and it's actually talks and the
Speaker 1: people who are like I like back to school when
Speaker 1: like the notebooks are back at target, fuck you. I
Speaker 1: will say that the new school supplies thing is real.
Speaker 1: They do smell good. The school supplies are wild. Now wait,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, how have they changed? Like there's
Speaker 1: fucking I was watching this SMR video where she's sucking
Speaker 1: Maria gentle whispering icon went. She was like, I went
Speaker 1: to Darget. I found some amazing things. What are the
Speaker 1: kids using that the kids are using Like the pencil
Speaker 1: cases remember the space makers no flop those are gone
Speaker 1: now it's like there's l E ed e's in there
Speaker 1: and ship they zip up or the notebooks have like
Speaker 1: fucking gel and then that you can like whatever gets
Speaker 1: the kids, whatever gets because you know they're on the
Speaker 1: iPad and you know. That's why Jane Austen did the
Speaker 1: farm because she was like, I don't want my kids
Speaker 1: on the iPad all the time. I want to know
Speaker 1: where their food comes from. That's what Jane Austen said.
Speaker 1: Jane Auson said, my kids gonna know where their food
Speaker 1: comes from. And my kids also going to learn how
Speaker 1: to ride a bike. Oh, my kid's gonna know how
Speaker 1: to ride a bike for if something happens, Yeah, if
Speaker 1: they have to get on a bike. I think Jane
Speaker 1: was also like, they're gonna eat hickamist sticks where they're
Speaker 1: going to the farmer's market. They're going to learn about produce.
Speaker 1: I think Shane was like, my kids are not getting
Speaker 1: that vaccine. Who said this, Jane Austen, My kids are
Speaker 1: not getting a vaccine. I don't trust it at all. Also,
Speaker 1: they're homeschooled, so it's like, you can wait, she's weird,
Speaker 1: but you know it's weird. She said. She's not getting
Speaker 1: she said she's thinking she's not anti vax herself fully,
Speaker 1: but she's like, I don't know which one I get
Speaker 1: because but I do know that J and J has
Speaker 1: They put cancer in jan J. This cancer and J
Speaker 1: n J and I like, but she said, once the
Speaker 1: FDA approval comes through, then she'll think about it more seriously.
Speaker 1: But she feels they rushed. My thing with Jane Austen
Speaker 1: is like I love your Instagram, I love the kids,
Speaker 1: I love the we love write a book again. I
Speaker 1: know another book. It's been so long since Jane Austen
Speaker 1: wrote a book. And it's like you know that thing
Speaker 1: when like somebody's famous for a thing and then they
Speaker 1: just get so far away from it, like Christie Taken
Speaker 1: and being a model. Yeah, and it's like wait, but
Speaker 1: like do what we loved about you. It's like Bethany
Speaker 1: with Housewives, Like you're not better than housewives, Babe. The
Speaker 1: last thing you'll ever see is a remotest singer. Stop
Speaker 1: trying to be sharing, you know. Jane is like j
Speaker 1: v N where it's like no, we like, don't you
Speaker 1: don't have to walk us through this like every like
Speaker 1: you don't have to show us like a cooking demo.
Speaker 1: That's anthony, Like you should just go back to the
Speaker 1: grooming I just missed like a time before like social media,
Speaker 1: where like Jane Austen could just be Jane Austen and
Speaker 1: I know, go on her head and then now it's
Speaker 1: just like there's too much information I missed pre I
Speaker 1: missed pre social media. Jane Austen, it's like, stop posturing.
Speaker 1: Talk to us, you know what I mean, Like, just
Speaker 1: talk to us. Stop posturing for one second, like because
Speaker 1: it's like when Anthony started posting all those shirtless stuff, right,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's not why we love you. We love
Speaker 1: you because of your a goofy little face when you
Speaker 1: put something wrong in let the work speak for itself,
Speaker 1: Anthony and Jane Austen, like, you know, that's that we
Speaker 1: fell in love with you for books? Wait are we
Speaker 1: are we that? Though? Like have we like veered off
Speaker 1: the path? Like? Are we being? Jane? I often feel
Speaker 1: like every time I um say anything about my personal life,
Speaker 1: I regret it, Like I do this thing, I like
Speaker 1: absolutely am like I'm a fucking mirror cat in the
Speaker 1: hole because um no, wait, prairie Dog because I saw
Speaker 1: it the same. Yeah. Absolutely where it's like I don't
Speaker 1: I'll have a day where I post, or it'll be
Speaker 1: like my birthday or like I'll have a cute picture
Speaker 1: of myself that I'll post, and then I crave those
Speaker 1: likes and those notifications and the attention in the minute
Speaker 1: I get it, I'm like, I don't want to be perceived.
Speaker 1: Nobody look at me, nobody talked to me, don't know
Speaker 1: a thing about me. This is literally sister Live hashtag after.
Speaker 1: I mean, I relate, like I like, why did I
Speaker 1: do that? Like the dopamine hit came and now I'm like,
Speaker 1: it feels like you've just orgasmed. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: looked at the porn that you were watching and you're
Speaker 1: like what what? Oh? Yeah, But that's also a funny moment.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I was nineties sailors stuff, Like I
Speaker 1: thought I was past that. Well, my favorite lately has
Speaker 1: been espionage thriller stuff like like like like when someone's
Speaker 1: like you can get some really good ones, like where
Speaker 1: a girl comes in and she'll be like, well we
Speaker 1: better go very quick and then like they're like on
Speaker 1: a mission and then he's like before we go, which
Speaker 1: we should fuck and things like that. I actually watched
Speaker 1: hetero porn again recently and it wasn't as iconic as
Speaker 1: the step, but you know what, I you know, really
Speaker 1: iconic iconic Matt Rodgers moment might be some awards. Artist
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers might be nominated for Artists at the Millennia,
Speaker 1: we're gonna say, but also going back to gay um,
Speaker 1: the Mormon stuff is like really good more because they're
Speaker 1: straight Mormon porn to all that sister wife ship. It's
Speaker 1: I don't know about all that. All I know is
Speaker 1: like it's like the rituals of Mormonism. It's like it'll
Speaker 1: be like that, what's that you're talking about? And some
Speaker 1: of it is actually kind of upsetting. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that it's because Holy Mormon is upsetting, and
Speaker 1: so the fact that they're like there's this and you
Speaker 1: know the series I'm talking about, it's like really specific.
Speaker 1: The garments that were really specific, and it's so specific
Speaker 1: to that experience that like you are sort of laughing
Speaker 1: because you're like it's like the seam will start and
Speaker 1: the guy will be like, now go inside, kneel at
Speaker 1: the altar and begin the ritual, and it's like the
Speaker 1: ritual is likelindfolded and then they have to lie down
Speaker 1: in a bed of nails or some ship like well,
Speaker 1: and and there's like I'll come in and read the
Speaker 1: rights and it's like what are you talking to? Watch
Speaker 1: you have sex? But it's funny to me, all those
Speaker 1: religions are about sex. They're deeply, deeply horny, and Mormonism
Speaker 1: is one of the horniest of them all because there's
Speaker 1: so much to talk about the underwear, and you're seeing
Speaker 1: the girl with the braid and the dress, and the
Speaker 1: whole time you're thinking like, I can't wait to funk her,
Speaker 1: like because she's so covered, like what are her? It's
Speaker 1: all it's all deeply sexual. And also it's a religion
Speaker 1: just like all based on men wanted to funk a
Speaker 1: bunch of young girls that too. I also like another
Speaker 1: another archetype I really like is can you come over
Speaker 1: and fix something broken in my house? My trap belien
Speaker 1: is broken. Dude like going to come over and jump
Speaker 1: on my trampoline naked to see if it could work?
Speaker 1: For sure? Dude, I'll come right over. Here's my search
Speaker 1: word wait you go, No, no no, no. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say there are only three stories in pornography, Mormonism, fixing
Speaker 1: something at home, and espionage. Okay, I'm going to add
Speaker 1: a third one and this summer come for there's my
Speaker 1: search words real couple making love. I've done it so
Speaker 1: many times, but the couple has to be hot, and
Speaker 1: I have to think both of them are hot. And
Speaker 1: there's this one couple that have great production value, great lighting,
Speaker 1: like nice bedspread, like it's all set up, and it
Speaker 1: all starts with them. Like also their lube is like
Speaker 1: in these little Mason jars and so I think they
Speaker 1: make it themselves or whatever, like is it just a
Speaker 1: chi so organic, it's very jane Um. And they just
Speaker 1: like look into each other's eyes and like finger each
Speaker 1: other and tell each other how beautiful they are. And
Speaker 1: then it's like a hard cut to like there's two
Speaker 1: there's another couple in the bedroom, and then they're like
Speaker 1: fucking the other couple and like looking at each other.
Speaker 1: But you're not emotionally invested in this random mother couple though, right,
Speaker 1: And sometimes I well, I'm really invested in them. And
Speaker 1: I've also just watched I don't like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: watched this is rare for me. I've watched several videos
Speaker 1: of this woman giving this guy up prostate orgasm and
Speaker 1: the way that he like directs her it's so trusting
Speaker 1: and beautiful, and the way that he spreads his legs
Speaker 1: and like will be like barely any on my cock,
Speaker 1: barely anything lighter, lighter, lighter, like, and she's just looking
Speaker 1: at him and she's so patient. It's it's loving, it's
Speaker 1: deeply loving. The way you made the guy sound though,
Speaker 1: was he's fucking hot, because that's actually hot behavior. He's
Speaker 1: the hot one. But the tone that you were sort
Speaker 1: of reenacting it, it sounded like he was like trying
Speaker 1: to like put in order at a restaurant. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he is I think, very like very much the way
Speaker 1: that women sometimes, i mean maybe have to be very
Speaker 1: specific about, like this is how I'm going to come.
Speaker 1: He is doing that and it's so trusting and loving.
Speaker 1: I see that. I love that so much. It's vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I mean, she has like a big dildo off his
Speaker 1: butt and he's like jacking him off. I mean, you ever,
Speaker 1: there's a guy that I watch. He's like a weird
Speaker 1: British guy, but he like tries out dildos and he
Speaker 1: al feel like he's like it's a dildo tutorial, like
Speaker 1: we all need to figure out how to use it.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a tutorial for this one and I'll
Speaker 1: review it. It's like so weird, but it works for me.
Speaker 1: And he also like models like um gear and then
Speaker 1: he obviously like sometimes he'll turn on like some music
Speaker 1: and like you know, he'll jack off. But the thing
Speaker 1: is like he's such a weird guy, but I'm so
Speaker 1: into it, and I think I want to have some
Speaker 1: weird sex in you're weird like that. I want to
Speaker 1: get a little summer of cunt is about fucked and
Speaker 1: getting fucked weird. Yeah, I really um would like to
Speaker 1: not me. You're not warning right now, you know what.
Speaker 1: We talked about this like I would like to in theory,
Speaker 1: but then it's August, bitch, it's like something you down
Speaker 1: like now It's like when I'm not fucking, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like it's actually fine. I have a headache yet. Welcome. Welcome,
Speaker 1: That's what the weird British guy with a dildop his
Speaker 1: asses for and he smiles while he does. It was
Speaker 1: so cold in London. Well has put his hands on
Speaker 1: his mouth because he's having a rare moment of have
Speaker 1: I said too much? Just like the only time he's
Speaker 1: like once in the year and shocked once a year.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I said that it's cold in London?
Speaker 1: Did I go too far? Wait? It was a good
Speaker 1: pr for from miss Taylor Swift for August, the month
Speaker 1: of August. She's delusional girl. Well now well no, now
Speaker 1: I love the month of August because I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: long as the other day I thought. I literally, oh
Speaker 1: my thought like explicitly and convinced myself that was true, like, oh, now,
Speaker 1: well we have August by Taylor and so you know,
Speaker 1: but also like, I have to be honest, it's not enough.
Speaker 1: It's not enough for me to get over August being
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm you don't like August, I hate
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, the song is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite songs on all the time. It's just not enough.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say these words and they're associated with
Speaker 1: the month of August. You're back beneath the sun wishing
Speaker 1: I could write my name on it. Will you call
Speaker 1: when you're back at school? It's August, after all, I
Speaker 1: remember thinking I had it's such a good song. It's
Speaker 1: that's such a beautiful one. Um, it's such a gorgeous song.
Speaker 1: Taylor really slapped, She really snapped on folk. We we
Speaker 1: were we were dancing last night, Can we say you
Speaker 1: Belong with me? Came out at the club and truly
Speaker 1: the perfect song, and I think that's like I sort
Speaker 1: of forgot how drunk I got last night, but I
Speaker 1: chugged a couple of Martini's. I woke up hungover, which
Speaker 1: is didn't even go to the second or third location.
Speaker 1: It was just a second one. Sud crushed, Sudi crushed,
Speaker 1: of course crushed. Okay, speaking of Mormonism, is this this
Speaker 1: perfect segue into Okay, you know what, everybody? Everybody make peace, Readers,
Speaker 1: make peace with the fact that this is We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about Taylor Swift at least once per episode,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about one of the Real Housewives shows.
Speaker 1: Speak truth like it's It's fine. Everybody at this point,
Speaker 1: like everyone that I know wants it, and I know
Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of people. I will say brag, sorry,
Speaker 1: but we're all watching house and no one's too cool
Speaker 1: for it, no one's above it. No, do not criticize
Speaker 1: the pod At this point. Everybody is lucky that it
Speaker 1: is still thing. And I'm going to say that, and
Speaker 1: you've got to be grateful for every day that these
Speaker 1: two fucking deem it worthy of their time to talk
Speaker 1: into a microphone and guess what they're gonna say whatever
Speaker 1: the funk they want to say, I will say, it's
Speaker 1: so easy to just skip ahead, like that's what like
Speaker 1: if it wasn't It's not like watching a TV show
Speaker 1: where it's like you kind of have to get your
Speaker 1: Apple TV remote and like negotiate the and I know
Speaker 1: you hate the Apple remote it's so sensitive, and then
Speaker 1: you have to negotiate it. With the podcast, it's like
Speaker 1: there's a button that's a future button. You can go
Speaker 1: to the future and if you if you like what
Speaker 1: you hear, then guess keep going to This podcast is
Speaker 1: so fucking long. We have done hours, thousands of hours
Speaker 1: of non content. So when the Salt Lake City two
Speaker 1: trailer comes out and it fucking snack work of art
Speaker 1: and it's a work of top to bottom every market,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. And now we said it, also,
Speaker 1: what do they want you to talk about? Sucking Jane Austin,
Speaker 1: guess what we did? We did. We gave her so
Speaker 1: much time today it's like she's gonna get her whole
Speaker 1: literary podcast. It is. We talked about books. This is
Speaker 1: a literary brand. Everybody is lucky it exists. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the fucking salt Like trailer let's just say um Jen
Speaker 1: is a maniac villain. She's a mad villain. She's now
Speaker 1: like literally like the Big Boss and the Narredith has engaged,
Speaker 1: Meredith has engaged Detective Lisa. I said her I pitched.
Speaker 1: I pitched her a new tagline on Instagram. I said,
Speaker 1: I want this to be Lisa Barlow's tagline for the season.
Speaker 1: I'll take a hamburger, a large fry, and the truth.
Speaker 1: I guess what Lisa saw it because he tagged her
Speaker 1: and she said, you made my day, made my day.
Speaker 1: You made my day my day. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: love that. I love that. I said you could have
Speaker 1: it for free. I don't know, yo, oh my god. Well,
Speaker 1: we know who we need to have on literally soon
Speaker 1: to do her. Lisa Barlow is Vanessa Barlow, so Barlow is.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things where you don't hear
Speaker 1: it and then you hear it and then you're like,
Speaker 1: thank god, Oh, you're so happy that it exists. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on what we think Heather Gay season is going to
Speaker 1: be like after being like sort of the the I'm
Speaker 1: worried that she has a writer. Now, I'm worried that
Speaker 1: like there's somebody like you know when like Paula Abdual
Speaker 1: first season of American Idol, all of a sudden was
Speaker 1: saying things like testdown, you know, like I'm worried that
Speaker 1: she's gonna be too self aware and you know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna you're gonna see her thinking like,
Speaker 1: my thing is that Rihanna like DM to me and
Speaker 1: I'm the funny one, and I'm I'm the real one,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm worried she's gonna play. She's gonna play
Speaker 1: to Rihanna, She's gonna play. Now, just have be thinking
Speaker 1: of catchphrases and then saying them over and over because
Speaker 1: Wendy's which is sort of affliction, although I don't know
Speaker 1: with Wendy, I just kind of feel like I'm watching
Speaker 1: some woman go through some sort of like psychological break
Speaker 1: and there's a real like there's some real psychosis happening,
Speaker 1: and it's it's happening with a very intelligent, complicated woman,
Speaker 1: and I'm along for the ride. Yes, I think for
Speaker 1: the whatever. You know, she hasn't said the word degrees
Speaker 1: one time, and she said candle too much, so it's
Speaker 1: sort of the binary are there's someone who's like, my degrees,
Speaker 1: are you someone who's like my candle? And I think
Speaker 1: that she's somewhere and lost in the middle. She's neither
Speaker 1: right now. Remember when Wendy was talking about like when
Speaker 1: she was getting her degrees and she had like her
Speaker 1: two boys, and she would be breastfeeding and working on
Speaker 1: her disportation. How she wouldn't sleep. She would sleep like
Speaker 1: three hours a night. And she did that for years
Speaker 1: that I remember thinking like, oh my god, that is
Speaker 1: not a way to live your life. That's trauma. That's
Speaker 1: so hard what she did. And the fact that she's
Speaker 1: like new body. These kids literally sucked the life out
Speaker 1: of my breasts new body candles. I'm very I don't
Speaker 1: support it, but I'm very It makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: makes so much sense. It makes she saw an opportunity.
Speaker 1: She's trying to create a new beginning for herself. And also,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people when you watch herself
Speaker 1: on TV, like you go through something. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: seen herself edited and maybe she thought, maybe she thought
Speaker 1: her character wasn't fun, and she's like, but wait, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the show and I'm fun, like she and and
Speaker 1: and like maybe she's going a little too far. In
Speaker 1: that direction. I mean, I think that Wendy is having
Speaker 1: a better second season than Leah. It's too much pressure,
Speaker 1: too much put on Leah's shoulders too quickly. She's more
Speaker 1: fun when she pops, when she's when she's the whip
Speaker 1: cream on top. She can't be the banana. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's everyone is the banana. I honestly think, and I
Speaker 1: really don't like saying this, but I think the way
Speaker 1: the only way you saved New York really is to back,
Speaker 1: bring Bethany back, bringing back Ramona, and then bring back
Speaker 1: like Dorenda. I think you know, Dorenda was not watching
Speaker 1: It Happens live, and she was like, I think they
Speaker 1: should bring us all back. I think it well would
Speaker 1: be fun is seeing the older cast and the New
Speaker 1: York cast and see what happens. But I'm happy, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm happy, and I'll go back. It's I'm very fortunate
Speaker 1: and bus and you know if I did, if I
Speaker 1: did go back, I wouldn't have written this book. And
Speaker 1: I read the book, and I'm happy that I'm sharing
Speaker 1: with everyone. Direnda, I heard I saw that you put
Speaker 1: Blue Stone Manner on Airbnb. What's that about? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: inviting everyone to come to my airbnd. And wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be fun? A reality show about bluestone manner? I think
Speaker 1: that would be fun. You know, just saying are changing
Speaker 1: your voice? You want to and you you want to
Speaker 1: know why you once told me I was Direnda because
Speaker 1: when I drink, it gets a little dark. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: gets so dark. That's that's that's not specific to Direnda though,
Speaker 1: And can I say yes, that is true? And when
Speaker 1: studio is saying that she's associating drinking with getting dark,
Speaker 1: for me, it's because all those times happened in August.
Speaker 1: August in New York, I was drinking a lot and
Speaker 1: getting dark. Last night you drank a lot and you
Speaker 1: got fresh with me? Was that being fresh? Well? You
Speaker 1: were just like you're coming, You're coming to the next
Speaker 1: level because it's like, honestly like it was. It was
Speaker 1: like it wasn't dark, it was dark. I was just
Speaker 1: like I was being definitive and I think trying to
Speaker 1: be funny, but like it maybe it was reading us
Speaker 1: like it was the look in your eyes was you're
Speaker 1: doing as I said? Well, because I honestly like needed
Speaker 1: that because I unfortunately had that thing readers where last
Speaker 1: night I was that flop who told everyone to leave
Speaker 1: one place to go to another place and arrive in
Speaker 1: It was closed, and we were really about outside. We're
Speaker 1: outside with about thirty people who came from our little
Speaker 1: island show, and it was like, oh, dozens of people
Speaker 1: who I love and care about, we forgave you. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the restaurant's fault. When the restaurants are closed, it's
Speaker 1: their fault. It's actually real culture number nine. When restaurants
Speaker 1: are closed, it's their fault. Be open. Um. I think
Speaker 1: that we are in for some great television from Bravo
Speaker 1: going forward, going forward, and I'm putting it into an
Speaker 1: atmosphere I'm gonna I want to be on Watch What
Speaker 1: Happens Live. Yes, it's it's it's like my summer of
Speaker 1: kunt It's because it's not happening soon, but at some
Speaker 1: point in the next year or so, I really want
Speaker 1: to do watch What Happens Live. It's my literally one
Speaker 1: of my life drinks. That's huge. I think you should.
Speaker 1: So this is such a this is such a gross
Speaker 1: thing to put out. This is very inside baseball. Do
Speaker 1: you do you have a publicist? I say you hire
Speaker 1: one of then you push like for when Key Force
Speaker 1: comes out and September, we should be like, can we
Speaker 1: get me on I'll be a publicist. Yeah. I can
Speaker 1: call and be like, Hi, this is Study Green. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I'm working with Matt Rogers and he has
Speaker 1: some really exciting things coming up, and um, we're just
Speaker 1: wanting yeah absolutely, Well, I just feel like absolutely and yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely great. I mean I've said it. I think I've
Speaker 1: said it on this pod before. If I was less talented,
Speaker 1: I'd be the biggest age in the world. But I
Speaker 1: will say I've shot on publicists on this podcast before,
Speaker 1: before I had my own, and I really do appreciate them.
Speaker 1: It's a hard people who get shipped done. They're so
Speaker 1: good at doing that. It is also a job for
Speaker 1: New York women, and I can never hate job full
Speaker 1: of New York women. There should be, honestly a reality
Speaker 1: show about publicists. Is there? Well there was a show, Well, yes,
Speaker 1: there was that show that was on. I think it
Speaker 1: was Who's that Woman? Kelly Kelly Cotrone. Kelly Cotrone had
Speaker 1: her own reality show and then Krull Show. They had
Speaker 1: that public So I honestly think maybe maybe it hasn't
Speaker 1: been done well yet, but I would love to see
Speaker 1: that energy harness. It's fascinating. Speaking of harnessing energy, it
Speaker 1: is at this moment because we are running up on
Speaker 1: almost Walter is gonna kick us the hell out of
Speaker 1: here soon, so we gotta do Um. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Which is you know, such a fun segment, so fun.
Speaker 1: It's really such a black that's really I think we
Speaker 1: really got I think we really found something with I
Speaker 1: don't think so. The other day, um, we were going
Speaker 1: to the Lady Gaga concert with Tony Bennett featuring Tony Bennett,
Speaker 1: The Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett's final concert ever. By
Speaker 1: the way, Bohen, you pulled Tony Bennett out of the
Speaker 1: trollball last night and said you could never be Gaga.
Speaker 1: I said, how how dare you have Gaga be your opener? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to be her, You never will be He
Speaker 1: will be her. Um. But um, anyway, we were walking
Speaker 1: in and this guy goes to Bowen my favorite is
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. We celebrate him and we
Speaker 1: send excel him. But it's a one one minute segment.
Speaker 1: Do you explain it? Um? It's a one minute segment
Speaker 1: where you rail against um something in culture that you
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, and you gotta be talk fast,
Speaker 1: you gotta be speak truth, as Kamala would say, and um,
Speaker 1: you gotta be funny, but don't try too hard. Also
Speaker 1: is Kamala would say, do not come, if you do
Speaker 1: not come, if you're not gonna come, if you, if
Speaker 1: you if I'm saying, if you calm doing, I don't think, sony,
Speaker 1: that's bad. Don't don't don't have an orgasm, don't have
Speaker 1: an orgasm. As as Kamala also said, Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: drag me for this. Um. I think Kamala is funny
Speaker 1: unfortunately as as a person in the as the way
Speaker 1: she waved to the crowd that one time, her laughing
Speaker 1: in her pride jacket, like I enjoy the Kamala thing
Speaker 1: because you know that behind the scenes, it's like she's
Speaker 1: basically ordering around the stormtroopers. You know what I like,
Speaker 1: what I love is like I literally we were really
Speaker 1: stoned in Galaxy's Edge and there was like a huge
Speaker 1: like ship and I was like, I pointed to it
Speaker 1: and I said, Kamala energy. Kamala is such a serious woman.
Speaker 1: She's such a serious woman who can access this manic
Speaker 1: joy projection that is like there's it's in her eyes
Speaker 1: exactly when she's walking at it pride, or like when
Speaker 1: she's like waving to the bus, and it is fascinating
Speaker 1: that that is a part of her because you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't I'm not saying that it's it's it's inauthentic.
Speaker 1: I think that it's there and it's in there, but
Speaker 1: she it's like it's like Hillary looking at the balloons.
Speaker 1: They access this thing that is just that part of
Speaker 1: their lives because in the rest of their lives they
Speaker 1: have to be so serious. They have to be serious,
Speaker 1: do not come. And she also has to do yeah
Speaker 1: I know, and she has to wave it that way
Speaker 1: and look like a patriotic monument. Really being a woman
Speaker 1: is hell, truly, it's hell. And everything is a trap.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying I have I have. I have admiration
Speaker 1: for her, and I know that she's you know, problematic
Speaker 1: amongst progressives and and I understand, but I do understand.
Speaker 1: I watch it and I laughed, and when she said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm gonna drag me for this, I did
Speaker 1: think it was funny because I just did the first
Speaker 1: time you did that, I thought, is he allowed? And
Speaker 1: now the third time that you've done it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he is and you you are the arbiter. Yeah. One
Speaker 1: thing I would like to do is go back in
Speaker 1: time and just tap myself on the shoulder a few
Speaker 1: times when I said some things early on in the
Speaker 1: podcast and just be like, are you allowed? But I'm
Speaker 1: grown and changee Okay, that's just a part of life, okay, man. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, I'll go You're gonna go first, grape? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Too
Speaker 1: much milk or creamer and the ice coffee? Get uh grip?
Speaker 1: And when I say get a grip, get a grip
Speaker 1: on something else that isn't the goddamn handle of milk
Speaker 1: you're using to pour it into my goddamn iced Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I don't want to drink milk.
Speaker 1: I want to drink iced coffee. If I wanted to
Speaker 1: come here, do you think I would order a coffee
Speaker 1: or a milk? And like, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the coffee shop for milk, So
Speaker 1: why pray tell when I sort of suck the straw
Speaker 1: paper these days and I'm just finding that it's mostly milk,
Speaker 1: oat or almond usually for me. Sorry, climate, but that's
Speaker 1: usually what it is. And especially when it's almond milk.
Speaker 1: This isn't even super cent. This isn't even what they'd
Speaker 1: say in the nineties you should be drinking to get
Speaker 1: out to wait off osteoporosis. This is almond milk, Mama.
Speaker 1: I don't want to drink mostly the milk of the oat.
Speaker 1: I want to drink ice coffee. I'm here for energy,
Speaker 1: I'm here for a good time. I'm here to a stain.
Speaker 1: I'm not here for milk. If I was, i'd be
Speaker 1: at the pasture. I don't think so, honey, that I'm
Speaker 1: there one minute. I loved that, yeah, that you kept
Speaker 1: it going. And also I think can we can we
Speaker 1: name names? I think it's Duncan that is like the
Speaker 1: biggest sort of overall not even just milk with them too,
Speaker 1: because the sugar is really where it gets uncouth. It's untowards.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't order anything that's a black coffee
Speaker 1: at Dunkin Donuts because I don't trust their hands. When
Speaker 1: you're drinking it and you can't even drink you can't
Speaker 1: taste the coffee, You're just tasting milk. I don't settle
Speaker 1: who say that Duncan Donuts is their coffee place. That's
Speaker 1: how you know ben Affleck is a serious killer. I
Speaker 1: will not hear this. Duncan is so much better than Starbucks.
Speaker 1: It's not even you know you're from the East Coast,
Speaker 1: you're from like you're from like that's that's what that is.
Speaker 1: Because Starbucks is trying to give me Seattle roast will
Speaker 1: get the cockett taste like cigarettes, whereas Duncan is like,
Speaker 1: we are who we are and you're you're choosing this,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that and I actually think it's solid.
Speaker 1: That is the second time that someone has described coffee
Speaker 1: tasting like cigarettes in a day, and I've never heard
Speaker 1: that gratitude. Earlier, we had coffee and she was like,
Speaker 1: does this taste like cigarettes to you? And I like
Speaker 1: cigarettes taste okay, I don't know, I don't taste them.
Speaker 1: It's well, you know, I think I dragged me for this,
Speaker 1: not to bring it, not to bring up as to
Speaker 1: nol but for study to kepe so hard for dunkin donuts.
Speaker 1: I I don't mind dunking donuts, but for you to
Speaker 1: be very loyal is East Coast culture. It's working in
Speaker 1: SNL culture. One under thirty Rock, I think that's what
Speaker 1: you're to. Yeah, the one under thirty Rock. When they
Speaker 1: where they call you sweetie, sweetie, they always have the
Speaker 1: perfect let's go Laura Hey, Mr Mike. Beanie is playing
Speaker 1: we can, but we can't go down that road. We
Speaker 1: love Beanie. I want Beanie on the pod. Okay, so
Speaker 1: this is Bowen Yang's um. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Is he ready? And he nods confidently as I press play.
Speaker 1: It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Hard out.
Speaker 1: No one honors them, and so what's the point of
Speaker 1: even asking for one or receiving one from someone? Like,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not gonna hold it up. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. We're going where we only had
Speaker 1: the room for two hours. Here we're doing this in person,
Speaker 1: and poor Walter is having to sit here working over time.
Speaker 1: We were we run the clock fifteen minutes after our
Speaker 1: A lot of time we were we weren't given a
Speaker 1: heart out. We did not say we had a heart out,
Speaker 1: but we are. The schedules aren't being um arbitrary. I
Speaker 1: just think I've never in my life had a heart
Speaker 1: out honored. I think let's just like delete them as
Speaker 1: a concept. Okay, Like if you're going to show up somewhere,
Speaker 1: expect to be there for an indefinite amount of time forever,
Speaker 1: and that that is so liberating to sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: be untethered from time in that way. So heart outs,
Speaker 1: I mean, the only person who should have a heart
Speaker 1: out should be Katie, correct because she is up for
Speaker 1: the Best Asker award and she and she just deserves
Speaker 1: her time to um, you know, catch catch people, and
Speaker 1: that's one minute. I have never had a heart out, truly.
Speaker 1: I've seen hard I've seen heart out to spring into action,
Speaker 1: and it is a hard out right to the minute
Speaker 1: they're honored, but now away. So for people that might
Speaker 1: not know, a hard out is when you say people
Speaker 1: do not actually have to for everyone, not everyone that does.
Speaker 1: I have to leave at five. I'm so sorry I
Speaker 1: have a hard out at five, just like we were
Speaker 1: told today there was a hard out at seven. It's
Speaker 1: seven oh five six fifty alright, So, um, so that's
Speaker 1: what we're saying. We don't think so, honey. So that's
Speaker 1: why we're not doing the hard Walter told me there's
Speaker 1: no one booked after this, and so we we do
Speaker 1: get to like color. He wants to hear us talk
Speaker 1: about Scala. He wants to hear it. He loves he
Speaker 1: loves st Do you have you have you been able
Speaker 1: to understand any thing we've said, like in terms of
Speaker 1: a scalart? Do you know what that is? Did you?
Speaker 1: But you were laughing at his Dorinda impression in a
Speaker 1: way that made me, do you think that's biggest mistake
Speaker 1: of his life? He has? It's that thing where yeah,
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's got a book coming out, she's got you.
Speaker 1: I was working words and anybody heard it heard it
Speaker 1: could be fun and you know Candice is coming on
Speaker 1: incredible drive back, drive back, sweeping the country, big hit,
Speaker 1: big hit, topping the charts. Kids. Could be fun, It
Speaker 1: could be fun, to be interesting, could be interesting. You
Speaker 1: know that also has a canvas. But you shouldn't do it. No,
Speaker 1: everybody needs to be saying can I give notes? Everybody
Speaker 1: needs to be saying fewer words and longer pauses. And
Speaker 1: I'm not putting Erica out there. She's been through it locked,
Speaker 1: She's been through locked. You know. It's the thing where
Speaker 1: the husband yeah, yeah, yeah. So now this is gonna
Speaker 1: be study Greens. I don't think so, honey, And studio
Speaker 1: you're ready sort of done too. In the last twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, you're on fire, and they both were slaves,
Speaker 1: and this one, I know it's going to be no exception.
Speaker 1: This is studio Greens. I don't think so, Honey. On
Speaker 1: summer of Hunt four and our time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Hiking, hiking, you're a walk, but harder.
Speaker 1: I don't like to hike. Every boyfriend I've ever had
Speaker 1: in my life, I've had to hike with them. I
Speaker 1: have to pretend to hike. I to pretend to like it,
Speaker 1: and then guess what about six months in the truth
Speaker 1: comes out, which is that hiking you're not watching a movie,
Speaker 1: be watching a movie. Also, you want to be in
Speaker 1: the middle of nature, in the middle of nowhere alone.
Speaker 1: You are a white man. You you are a white
Speaker 1: man saying that, and it is a white man's space.
Speaker 1: And I don't like to have to climb. I don't
Speaker 1: like to have I like nature, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to go into nature to be in nature.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense for it? Also, the thing is
Speaker 1: with hiking, you you you do the hike to the point,
Speaker 1: and guess what you have to do after that? Walk back? Okay,
Speaker 1: walk back? And sometimes people are trying to trick you
Speaker 1: and say that the walk back is easier. But it's
Speaker 1: harder because I'm tired. I don't think so hiking and
Speaker 1: that's one minute, that's incredible. You know what's hard about
Speaker 1: the walk down is it's hard on your calves because
Speaker 1: you're like going down the hill and then you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, your feet and then your feet are
Speaker 1: kind of sloped down like this you're doing and that's
Speaker 1: when you notice if you're not wearing the right footwear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you know. To me, it's it's it's the
Speaker 1: performance that I do for every man that I've ever known.
Speaker 1: Not true, not every man, but most of them where
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, let's go in a hike, and then
Speaker 1: it's it's the tension of how much do I suffer
Speaker 1: through and when do they find out ay that I'm
Speaker 1: not really in shape for this and be that. The
Speaker 1: secret is, I would so much rather be doing literally
Speaker 1: anything else. Can I say? And this this will maybe
Speaker 1: renegotiate the performing aspect of this. You and I have
Speaker 1: enjoyed a hike together. Okay, what I would call the
Speaker 1: hikes that we've gone on, and this is important nature
Speaker 1: walks and nature walk I love a nature walk. Give me,
Speaker 1: give me a path, uh you know, off a road,
Speaker 1: easy parking and I'm and I'm smelling the trees for
Speaker 1: a little bit. I can't be doing these these these
Speaker 1: mountain you're bouldering. I'm oregon trailing up in this. You
Speaker 1: also don't need to be hiking to walk, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And if you're walking, you actually like
Speaker 1: you know, steps wise, like they're the same. Like so
Speaker 1: if you if you walk up a hill and it's
Speaker 1: a hike quote unquote, like you could have walked down
Speaker 1: the street around nature thanks and logged as many steps
Speaker 1: and still it's calories carrying down like getting lost, can
Speaker 1: I son? But I do love them and you're gonna
Speaker 1: love the way you look at l I when you
Speaker 1: start Griffith Park. Is that a hike or nature walk?
Speaker 1: I was a hike. I think if it's up, if
Speaker 1: you're if it's up the hill, and yeah, in your
Speaker 1: ass you're feeling it. I think that that's a hike.
Speaker 1: To me, a hike is defined not only by distance
Speaker 1: and remoteness, but also streng you with smiths. But do
Speaker 1: you like hike? No, but I'll do it to get
Speaker 1: a nice ass. We love and I'll do it. I'll
Speaker 1: do it to get a nice ask. But I won't
Speaker 1: do it because I say I love going on a high.
Speaker 1: It's a means to an end. It's not the thing
Speaker 1: that you want to be doing, like working out, and
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I have to tell you that's
Speaker 1: been that's been a part of summer of count for me.
Speaker 1: Is I now do enjoy it? Don't I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it, but but literally, please shut up, thank you.
Speaker 1: This is summer of the boundaries. And guess what, Kings
Speaker 1: We're we're having a fun night tonight. Yeah, we're about
Speaker 1: to go watch We're gonna go to Kings. Shout out.
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing, which is that
Speaker 1: I'm staying at a really cool hotel in New York
Speaker 1: all the freehand and there, and I'm telling you like
Speaker 1: I never got to go. I never was in town
Speaker 1: for a tree, which feels literally insane. Um, But now
Speaker 1: I'm there and I love it. It's so fucking lovely.
Speaker 1: So this is um, this is like a damn discount discount. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I would pay millions more. No,
Speaker 1: they should pay you. No, Mama, let me pay them. No,
Speaker 1: let me pay them. No, Okay, give me the money,
Speaker 1: give give him the money. Well, I think this has
Speaker 1: been and wow, we laughed, We literally cried. I think
Speaker 1: this is an iconic summer of cunt, summer of quad,
Speaker 1: summer of I think it's Can I have a pitch
Speaker 1: for a title summer for like no cunty or so
Speaker 1: it's like five huh, so it's like fast five or
Speaker 1: when it's like Furious seven. You know, like we now
Speaker 1: know that like the word So the word furious is
Speaker 1: infer now with any fast neferious movies so much so
Speaker 1: that you don't need it in the actual title. So
Speaker 1: the word hunt is sort of inferred with this, so
Speaker 1: you don't need it with what about cunt cunt cunt
Speaker 1: cuntor that? I like that. We're gonna have a vote
Speaker 1: on one of the most popular websites online, which is
Speaker 1: called Twitter um, and it's gonna be between the two.
Speaker 1: We're going to ask our We're gonna ask the Twitter sphere,
Speaker 1: which is always responsible and definitely when we post the
Speaker 1: word hunt on even if it's spelled with a K
Speaker 1: on Twitter, people will have like, they'll have a good
Speaker 1: sense of humor about and they'll be constructive and will
Speaker 1: be willing to play along with us. Absolutely, I trust
Speaker 1: every trust them for sure. No one flag it, no
Speaker 1: one report, no one flag at faggots. Okay, this has
Speaker 1: been this has been one of the best times. And
Speaker 1: we're all gonna wave to each other, and I kind
Speaker 1: of I know what song I want to sing at
Speaker 1: the end, and I kind of want studios to lead us.
Speaker 1: Would you leave? Listen the theme songs to A Wrinkland
Speaker 1: times only you can ring BOSEI Fine f