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Speaker 2: be fed. But the UCLA campus, We're going to play

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Speaker 2: you some clips of a Jewish student being denied entry

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Speaker 2: follow up on all that, but first, actually, a Donald

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Speaker 2: And today Trump was fined nine thousand dollars because he moved,

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Speaker 2: shut up. He keeps violating the gag order of the

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Speaker 2: judge Juan Marchon. And we have Royal Oaks, the ABC

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Speaker 2: News legal analyst on the scene. Royal, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Great? John? And it might be a little calmer in

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Speaker 1: be interesting Thursday because although Donald Trump was fined nine

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Speaker 1: as the judge said, violate that his really can't talk

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Speaker 1: On Thursday morning, John, you're going to be hearing where

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Speaker 1: four more alleged violations will be presented. The DA has

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Speaker 1: offered this up to the judge, and the judges said,

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Speaker 1: I just may have to jail Donald Trump. Now I

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Speaker 1: just you know, the Trump TV ads would right themselves here.

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Speaker 1: but he could sock him with much larger financial penalties.

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Speaker 1: So it's a really fascinating side show to the trial, which,

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Speaker 1: of course the main of edable Michael Cohen. That's going

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Speaker 2: How much larger can the penalties be considering Trump's wealth?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know he was able to satisfy that

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're in a civil context, you get

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Speaker 1: But I mean the track record is, you know, every

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Speaker 1: He makes more money. If he were to be jailed,

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's going to be a standoff. Trump never

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Speaker 2: backs down. He can afford the fines. So is Judge

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Speaker 2: Murchon actually going to have a gut the guts to

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. But you know, Trump actually has

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Speaker 1: an argument to be made, which the judge is acknowledged. Now,

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Speaker 1: position has been, Hey, Michael Cohen, he's out there, he

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Speaker 1: Now he can't do that. The judge's attitude is there

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Speaker 1: and it was going to be a violation of the law.

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Speaker 2: What was Cohen ever convicted of anything related to the

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Speaker 2: Stormy Daniel's situation. I seem to have a hazing memory

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the idea was that you Cohen give

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Speaker 1: had some legal trouble both really pertinent to this dispute

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Speaker 1: field day impeaching this guy, because when a guy writes

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Speaker 1: huge vise. He'd love to see the bad Orange man

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Speaker 2: I've aways been kind of fascinated by the dynamics when

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Speaker 1: Now that's a great point because so often you got

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Speaker 1: that relates to the racketeering allegations against Trump down in Georgia,

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Speaker 2: Roll good talking with you again. See what happens next. Yes,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on roll Oakes ABC News about Trump

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Speaker 2: getting fined nine thousand dollars and maybe more fines coming

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Speaker 2: We got a couple of audio clips to play about

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Speaker 2: our homegrown terrorism supporters at UCLA. We've got a Jewish

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 2: Back to the protests all over the country. Now, the

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Speaker 1: It's time to go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they're now cornering me. I'm not moving, kid.

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Speaker 4: Say whatever you want?

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Speaker 2: The chant to get bar in the background, Yes they are.

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Speaker 2: I mean no harm.

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Speaker 4: I'm just standing here, just showing you, guys, how pointless

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Speaker 4: your blockade is. I got in through the other entrance

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Speaker 4: Jewish students from entering. Fine, of course on Zionus. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you don't lead Zionists in the library that I

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Speaker 2: This is just fascinating. Yes, so the parents have paid tuition.

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Speaker 6: Hi there, I'm trying to report my kid is not

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Speaker 7: That they need LISP? Is he not able to ask

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Speaker 2: They said?

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Speaker 5: They said because he's Jewish, he cannot enter that area

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Speaker 7: Them a university thing. That's probably the protesters that are

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Speaker 5: So are the protesters allowed to not allow a student

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Speaker 7: No, they're not allowed. But unfortunately they have kind of

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Speaker 5: And and you know, with all due respect, why is

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Speaker 7: But Bob, I don't know if I'm gonna say, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Wait stop a second, Stop a second. In this case,

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Speaker 2: That's why she's calling. If they were intervening, her son

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, unfortunately, like she's trying to commiserate, she's you know, yes,

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Speaker 7: I'm intervening with that right now. And this is coming

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Speaker 5: So the university has taken a stance that they will

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Speaker 7: They had receive the directive cannot intervene at this time.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and what is at what point have they given.

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Speaker 2: A directive to you?

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Speaker 5: At what point you should intervene?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: As far as right now?

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Speaker 5: No, Okay, is there anything we can do as concerned

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Speaker 7: Suggest contacting the ANSWER's office or higher up in the

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Speaker 5: Lastly, just so I know at what point does UCPD

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Speaker 7: If your son is needs police assistant and he's, of

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Speaker 5: So I'm calling and saying he needs police assistants to

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Speaker 7: Not forcing them to move out other area. That's what

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Speaker 5: After he's getting attacked, he physically gets attacked, at that

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we're not blocking.

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Speaker 2: If if they have you flat on the ground and

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Speaker 2: We just played two clips in the last segment, a

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Speaker 2: But when the mother called, she called the campus police

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Speaker 8: Thought that supporters of Palestinian terrorism can block Jewish kids

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Speaker 2: They can tell the mothers of Jewish students, it's like,

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Speaker 2: But I haven't heard any reaction. Now he's almost done.

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Speaker 2: Poor guy. He's been anonymous since he took over in

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Speaker 2: we're calling the real police and they're going to have

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's championing these low income background students. He

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Speaker 2: you must understand the biology of mob behavior, of group behavior,

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Speaker 2: So a capstone to an excellent, impressive academic career. What

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Speaker 2: sad story, but today we have finally sentencing in the

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Speaker 2: case of four year old Noah Quattro. He was the

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Speaker 2: little Palmdale boy whose parents tortured and killed him back

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Speaker 2: in July twenty nineteen, and they both the both parents

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Speaker 2: got sentenced, and we're going to speak with Brian Claypool,

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Speaker 2: who's been involved in the case, representing some family members.

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible case and the Department of Child and

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Speaker 2: Family Services, which is a brutally incompetent, cruel department. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how it still exists in the county, but

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Speaker 2: the board of supervisors don't care. Children could die and

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Speaker 2: nothing will ever get changed at the Department of Children

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Speaker 2: and Family Services. We'll talk about the whole case again

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Speaker 2: because it has been almost five years, and that's how

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Speaker 2: long it takes to put two parents in jail for

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Speaker 2: torturing and killing their kid. One more thing. I mentioned

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Speaker 2: this briefly, but there's more detail here from the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal about this stupid demand. When you hear the

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Speaker 2: list of demands by the terrorist students and outside agitators

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Speaker 2: that they demand that Columbia University divest itself from any

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Speaker 2: investments in companies that produce weapons. They tried this in

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Speaker 2: the past too, with oil companies. The climate change fanatics

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Speaker 2: to colleges universities not to invest in energy stocks.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Nothing could be more useless, more pathetic, more ineffective, more

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Speaker 2: feeble than to make an organization like Columbia sell their

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Speaker 2: stock in any weapons companies or oil companies. Because Colombia,

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Speaker 2: even though it has an endowment of fourteen billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: it's a tiny, tiny, little microscopic drop in the vast

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Speaker 2: ocean of money swirling out there. For example, Microsoft, which

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Speaker 2: the protesters want sold. Protesters want Columbia to sell a

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Speaker 2: Microsoft stock. That company alone is valued at three trillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Colombia is only fourteen billion to play with in total.

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Speaker 2: Selling stock has no effect. There's always somebody to sell

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Speaker 2: stock to who don't care whether Israel is getting weaponry

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Speaker 2: or doesn't care that oil companies produce oil. They just

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Speaker 2: want to make a profit from a successful industry. Because

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Speaker 2: when the oil companies profit or the weapons company's profit,

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Speaker 2: then people who own the stock profit, and that's all

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Speaker 2: most investors care about. Now, you could have the best

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Speaker 2: in tensions and be a nice little goodie good or

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Speaker 2: you could be an angry terrorist demanding investment. Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Most of the people in the stock market game are

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Speaker 2: in there to make profits. Period. Give you an example,

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Speaker 2: there's always been people demanding that they don't invest in coal,

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Speaker 2: and they will not invest in coal. Well, what happened

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Speaker 2: after Russia invaded Ukraine energy shortages. Suddenly coal development was

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Speaker 2: very valuable. Coal companies their share sword. Now the investors

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Speaker 2: who wanted the world to stop using coal could not

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Speaker 2: affect the production. Didn't matter whether they bought the stock

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Speaker 2: or not. They could never buy the stock. They could

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Speaker 2: sell all their stock. They could scream and rent and

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Speaker 2: raise and stamp their feet to sell coal stock didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Coal became more valuable after the Russian invasion. If you

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Speaker 2: sell the shares cheaply. According to Wall Street Journal, it

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Speaker 2: just leaves the buyer owning the future profits at a

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Speaker 2: bargain price. And the companies most important Israeli is military

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Speaker 2: and to their oil production belong well. The control belongs

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Speaker 2: to the governments that supply the military aid, like the

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Speaker 2: United States supplies a lot of military aid to Israel.

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Speaker 2: So not buying a weapons company stock and a weapons company,

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Speaker 2: or trying to get Columbia or UCLA to sell their

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Speaker 2: investments in a weapons company makes no difference. The US

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Speaker 2: is going to send just as much military help to

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Speaker 2: Israel as possible, so will all the other Israeli allies,

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Speaker 2: and so will Israel itself buy and use whatever weaponry

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Speaker 2: it needs. Same thing in the climate debate. Five of

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Speaker 2: the top ten oil producers are controlled by Saudi Arabia, China, Mexico,

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Speaker 2: and Brazil, and they pump far more than the five

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Speaker 2: biggest private US and UK producers. So you could say

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Speaker 2: I'll never own any stock in a US oil company.

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Speaker 2: It's like who cares Saudi Arabian governments in China and

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Speaker 2: Mexico and Brazil. They pump morel than we do. In fact,

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Speaker 2: for all the talk of climate change and boy Kott's investment.

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Speaker 2: Global production of oil in the final quarter of last

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Speaker 2: year broke the previous record set in twenty eighteen. There's

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Speaker 2: more oil being pumped out of the ground and used

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Speaker 2: than ever before. Jeez, how did that happen? Bud Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom solved that problem right. In fact, Columbia was one

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Speaker 2: of the few universities who publicly acknowledged how pointless divesting

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Speaker 2: shares of oil stocks are because they had a committee.

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Speaker 2: It was called the Socially Responsible Investing Committee. But doesn't

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Speaker 2: that sounded like the Soviet Union and the Soviet The

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Speaker 2: Socially Responsible Investing Committee told Columbia they were against a

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Speaker 2: ban on oil stocks four years ago because the oil

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Speaker 2: companies are going to be able to get as much

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Speaker 2: money and as much investment as they want and there's

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Speaker 2: nothing that's going to stop them. In other words, join

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Speaker 2: the party by the stocks, buy the weapon stocks, you'll

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Speaker 2: make a lot of money. You're not going to stop

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Speaker 2: the world from doing what it does. But of course,

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Speaker 2: not one in a thousand of these stupid protester students

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Speaker 2: know about how the stock market works and why demanding

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Speaker 2: divestiture is pointless. But truth is. It doesn't matter. They're

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Speaker 2: there to create anarchy. They're not there to get the

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Speaker 2: college to divest They're there to destroy the peaceful flow

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Speaker 2: of life at the universities and really keep the Jewish

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Speaker 2: students from studying and learning, taking their final exams, even

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Speaker 2: going to the library. That's their purpose. It's to terrorize

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Speaker 2: Jewish students. It's to terrorize Jewish students, make them fearful

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Speaker 2: that they might die if they go to the library.

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Speaker 2: That's the purpose of these terrorists. It's not some high

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Speaker 2: minded financial analysis about divestiture. But you won't find any

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Speaker 2: of these jack holes in the media figuring that out

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Speaker 2: anytime soon. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt

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