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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, roping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host, Steve Dennis read this on Twitter this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's very funny, but it is clever.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said, suddenly the Dallas Cowboys have become the Dallas Calfboys.

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Speaker 1: Kind of clever, not funny, but big news today that

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Speaker 1: we need to dive straight into. Here with John Mashoda

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Speaker 1: from The Athletic, Nick Eatman from All Dallas Cowboys Productions,

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Speaker 1: and Clarence E. Hill Junior from the Fort Worth Star Telegram.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve Dennis. This is media mass, So here we go. Guys,

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Speaker 1: another calf injury and two their best two defensive ends

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Speaker 1: suffer well. The other one had a foot, but they

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Speaker 1: both suffered him in a midweek practice practice. We're talking

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Speaker 1: practic talking practice. Did want to tell you that who

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Speaker 1: you don't know what twenty you'll do? What? What is?

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Speaker 1: Did you want to tell you that I'm not following

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Speaker 1: for the joke? Go ahead and I'm so say tell

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Speaker 1: me what right? Anyways? Oh, Alan Offerson, Joe nowhere better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're talking practice. Randy Gregory has a has a calf

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Speaker 1: injury time, and he went on I r officially didn't

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Speaker 1: he three three games at least, but they played some

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Speaker 1: life out of you guys. You guys are just just

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Speaker 1: come on, tell a good joke. It was a good joke.

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Speaker 1: That's not to be there. You had to be there, Yeah, Clarence,

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Speaker 1: because I haven't been around you for last ten years

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Speaker 1: and you say it all the time, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: funny ten years ago. Wasn't funny. I know what I

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Speaker 1: was talking about, but he didn't even know what I'm

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Speaker 1: It shows you I've been I haven't been around him

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Speaker 1: for the At least two knew the reference. That's something.

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Speaker 1: At least you knew the reference. He didn't even know

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Speaker 1: the reference, though. I thought, I mean, the show starts

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Speaker 1: out with like Twitter said this, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: it's like the Calf Boys. We could do better than that.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of I thought such like

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Speaker 1: dad joke, like wow for Dad's Okay. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was kind of clever, old enough to beat. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of clever if like, they're the only team that are

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Speaker 1: dealing with calf injuries. But it's like the league is

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Speaker 1: dealing with it's calf to new hamstring. You remember when

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Speaker 1: having everybody had a hamstring problem. Well, you know the

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Speaker 1: Miles Austin injury. Cow calf come Like I thought it

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Speaker 1: was somewhat calf fast team. But again, not not like that.

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Speaker 1: It's Randy Gregory. If you don't know, if you haven't heard,

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Speaker 1: they played four games in eighteen days, my money's gonna

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Speaker 1: probably be out all four zero. Yeah, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: if it's closer like they said it was closer to

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's calf injury. If if that is a thing, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean missed two weeks, so we're looking

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Speaker 1: at this game. I really wanted to see him rush

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, But anyways, that's two games and then if

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Speaker 1: he misses that one, he's probably gonna miss the next

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Speaker 1: one with Thanksgiving and then he had another week. So

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing though, when he mentions it at being

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Speaker 1: more similar to Dax is also the position he plays, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much does that affect you as

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Speaker 1: gallop thing being a wide receiver, it was going to

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Speaker 1: cost him a little bit more. And then the one

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Speaker 1: that I keep going back to is how he You know,

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Speaker 1: We're out at practice and I see Neville Gallimore pushing

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Speaker 1: around the corner and yeah. Yeah. Like I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he must be coming back like next week. And then

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Speaker 1: McCarthy goes, yeah, but you got to remember the position

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Speaker 1: don't think everybody should just assume like, oh, dak Wily

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Speaker 1: also I think that some are more serious than others.

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Speaker 1: Clearly Dax wasn't as serious as the other two, and

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Speaker 1: he and Mike McCarthy said Dex was like Randy's. Randy

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Speaker 1: precautionary reason, not because he couldn't play. This is a

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Speaker 1: situation where they don't believe Randy could played for three weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the way Mike talked today, he seemed pretty down,

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Speaker 1: of the strain. And clearly Dex wasn't as serious as

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Speaker 1: Michael's or as Randy's. I think it's interesting that all

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Speaker 1: you guys have become experts on calf strains. We've been

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Speaker 1: dealing with hamstrings, talking graves and three. I'm a freaking expert, right,

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Speaker 1: he's experts. We've talked about it. But again, as you

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Speaker 1: kept talking about yours, clearly dex wasn't as bad as yours.

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Speaker 1: Of course not. And then that has you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour care and you didn't have to play quarterback,

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Speaker 1: right now, you and think about it and think about

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Speaker 1: it. It It is funny because we talked about Dak doesn't

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Speaker 1: Dak last week. He was running and cutting and you

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what anybody else could have

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Speaker 1: done more than any other position. Truck way was truck

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Speaker 1: trucking people for two point conversion. The way was spitting

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Speaker 1: out of sacks. And when he went to the sideline

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Speaker 1: did that little dipsy dude and trying to get the

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Speaker 1: what MCNA had nothing with, nothing to do with the strain.

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Speaker 1: the stream. It wasn't because the million dollar quarterback later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's keep it on. Let's keep it on the news

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But the having that chance so that everybody

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Speaker 1: they started and with the Street, people were talking about

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Speaker 1: more than just the playoffs. They were talking about more

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Speaker 1: it was always going to come down. Rock Sleep creeps

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Speaker 1: around here and people, will you do what now? Strock?

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Speaker 1: You remember slept rock? And then when it slept rock

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Speaker 1: rock from from from plant zones, No, from the Peanuts,

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Speaker 1: the negative guy, you've never heard a slept rock? Google that.

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Speaker 1: and finished that point B And this is the week.

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Speaker 1: First of all, this is the week the week conversation.

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Speaker 1: You're still getting Tanked back, You're getting Evil Galla Moore back,

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Speaker 1: that is still all their goals are still there. It's

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Speaker 1: they don't face anybody. They don't They don't have any

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, you know. But I

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Speaker 1: mean the next four games that you just talked about,

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Speaker 1: But I think they're going to be good in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: they're all winnable, but they're all losable. And like John said,

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Speaker 1: they'll probably be two and two out of that stretch,

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Speaker 1: a little yeah, tweaked or something. He hasn't practiced last

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Speaker 1: few days. So they're throwing a lot with dec After

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Speaker 1: practice we get to watch it. He looked pretty good

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Speaker 1: catching the ball. Obviously didn't fallow on the shoulder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but he ran fine and looked good. We'll see. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's the fourth receiver. Now, let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 1: Who gall Yeah, Yeah, I mean I mean Cedric et

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Speaker 1: Cedric has shown that he needs to be on the

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Speaker 1: field that slot. But but they're gonna rotate the guys

433
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Speaker 1: because we've seen, you know them have to use Noel

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Speaker 1: Brown and use some other guys. Uh, last week CD

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Speaker 1: was not on under you know, could gall made a

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Speaker 1: difference if he was, Well, you have what you have

437
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Speaker 1: to see that now. Dak said today that Dak Annamaribo

438
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Speaker 1: said today that Michael has made some outstanding catches, some

439
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Speaker 1: highlight grabs and practice, but that's practice. Like, I just

440
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Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that he's going to just

441
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Speaker 1: come right back from missing every game since week one

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Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be some russ now. There's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little timing stuff there. So it's probably

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Speaker 1: good that. Yeah, I agree with you guys. He's four

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Speaker 1: right now, but if he gets back to being Michael Gallop,

446
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Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna be all right. Speaking of rust, how

447
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Speaker 1: much did that play into the performance from number four.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to our second segment. Aaron Gonzalez is in

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. I got in a

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Speaker 1: little trouble yesterday with Joy and Slater Jane. They didn't

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Speaker 1: like any negativity at all from old Stevie d yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just pointed out that to me, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys can act like they've arrived, and they may have

495
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Speaker 1: showed a bit of arrogance in their performance in this game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question. Yeah, okay, the performers,

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Speaker 1: the coaching, Yeah, arrogant to I mean, like say what

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Speaker 1: you say I say about the fourth down, But I

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Speaker 1: thought it was an arrogant way to kind of go

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Speaker 1: out and play like we're gonna get this first down.

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Speaker 1: Well we didn't get it, Okay, well we'll stop them,

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Speaker 1: and we do. We'll just go do it again and

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Speaker 1: well we didn't know we didn't get another. Well we're

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Speaker 1: gonna just beat them eventually, and they didn't. And it

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Speaker 1: was pissing off the Broncos and it was it was deflated.

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Speaker 1: It gave an energy something. So I mean I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought it started. Sorry, I thought it started with

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Speaker 1: arrogance there from the coaching stuff. But I really like it, though,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, i'd like that. I like

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Speaker 1: that style. Well, I mean, it didn't work. It didn't work,

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Speaker 1: But I hate I hate people that like when stuff

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Speaker 1: doesn't work, then they like setting. I like the mindset

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Speaker 1: of it because I feel like that again, like Mike McCarthy,

514
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Speaker 1: who's setting the tone for this, knows what this franchise

515
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Speaker 1: has been, and he knows what he was brought in for.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this entire time he's been setting

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Speaker 1: the blueprint of what they want the long haul to be. Now,

518
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Speaker 1: maybe there's some things that came out of that game

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Speaker 1: that maybe he'll tweak and stuff like that, maybe with

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Speaker 1: his approach, but I like the way that he's been

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Speaker 1: building this thing like that. Like I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: like the aggressive I don't disagree with that. All I

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Speaker 1: would say though, like nothing, no, but here here's my phrase.

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Speaker 1: I think that they disrespected the process a bit. And

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Speaker 1: when you and I didn't think this team was that

526
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Speaker 1: kind of a team, I think they're a hungry, young

527
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Speaker 1: team that goes to work and doesn't worry about other stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you should disrespect the process. I

529
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Speaker 1: just think that that's part of the trend now going

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Speaker 1: from them, I mean their coach did that go for

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Speaker 1: it all the time? I mean the charges go forth,

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Speaker 1: goes forth all the time. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's it's a if you if you're enter the stats

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Speaker 1: and the analytics guys, they say going forward on fourth

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Speaker 1: the one is the thing to do. You have a

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Speaker 1: better chance of winning better cha others scoring and kicking

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Speaker 1: field goals. I think it's part of the thought processes now,

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Speaker 1: and especially when you have a team that is on

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Speaker 1: a roll, you're feeling good. You know nothing you can

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Speaker 1: stop us, you know, And that's where the Capitals when

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Speaker 1: I do think they were over confident. I do think

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Speaker 1: they would felt all of you do roll the ball

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Speaker 1: out there and you know, if things were going to

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Speaker 1: go well, that's part up. But that's more about them

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Speaker 1: not keeping the screws down in practice. Yes, not the

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Speaker 1: decision king in the game and the proms, but that

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Speaker 1: happened in practice. They didn't do it the fourth and

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Speaker 1: one to fourth and two. They had to do what

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Speaker 1: their mind set in practice, right, Okay, because if they

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Speaker 1: are take care of it, as they all talked about

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Speaker 1: the fact that they felt too good about themselves. They

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Speaker 1: were over confident. That was more of a problem. Didn't

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Speaker 1: decision make it going forwears McCarthy practice is he not there?

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but it's his job to know the

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Speaker 1: pulse of the team. So the problem but they got

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Speaker 1: they got in the way with it because they had

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Speaker 1: before and it turned out okay. Again because he's talked

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Speaker 1: about it, he's been worried about it ever since. By

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Speaker 1: one two in a row. I praised the coach. He

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Speaker 1: talked about it before. I praised the coach all the

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Speaker 1: time when they're having success. I think he gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of credit for it, and he should.

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Speaker 1: He's done a really good job turning a lot of

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Speaker 1: this thing around. But I think in the way that

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Speaker 1: game was called early on, I put some of that

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Speaker 1: on him early and then you know, if it happened

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Speaker 1: in practice, then that's on him. Because the players said

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Speaker 1: it all week. They were like, hey, wasn't the best practice?

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Speaker 1: What you know, and you usually hear it on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear that back on Thursday, you know. And

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Speaker 1: so it's when we really opened our eyes and go

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Speaker 1: back and reflect, you can kind of see that this

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Speaker 1: was what's going to happen. Maybe not thirty to nothing

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Speaker 1: and then blow out, but you could the writing was

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Speaker 1: on the wall. You guys were all at the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching it with my spousal unit and

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Speaker 1: I said to her, I guarante, my wife, I guarantee.

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Speaker 1: Just can't say that. I guarantee the players are gonna go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we needed this, we need it to wake him said,

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Speaker 1: we need a need humble pipe. No, you don't. I

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Speaker 1: agree with McCarthy one hundred percent on that. That's garbage.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're saying that because you got your ass kicked,

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Speaker 1: and how you're going on, how are we gonna how

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Speaker 1: are we gonna make sense of this? I guarantee, I guarantee.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots when it was seventeen to know or whatever,

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Speaker 1: they said we should have we should have lost during

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Speaker 1: the season and they would have been different. They felt

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Speaker 1: the India would have been different. That's not staying in

589
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Speaker 1: the moment. Garrett told us to stay in the moment. Baby,

590
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Speaker 1: I'm going bad. It happens. You can feel that way,

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Speaker 1: but happens a lot in college basketball, and falls is

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Speaker 1: late and then they kind of get rolling a little

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Speaker 1: bit also, But I mean, here's we're four, We're all

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Speaker 1: a little boys. At one point. We probably all got

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Speaker 1: our ass whipped by you know, parents or whatever. It

596
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Speaker 1: probably needed. It didn't want it at the time, but

597
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Speaker 1: can come back and say, you know what I probably needed.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that too. I do think it can

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Speaker 1: be a positive. But I knew they were all gonna

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Speaker 1: say that. All right, let's break it down into parts here.

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Speaker 1: That's because I said it, don't make it wrong, right,

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Speaker 1: You're right, I'm gonna call this now. Machoda gave me

603
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Speaker 1: the okay on it. But it's either just a bad

604
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Speaker 1: day at the office, right, that's what's it's the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's just a bad day at the office, or maybe

606
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Speaker 1: the boss has his or her eye on you. See,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna those are the two choices. So maybe not

608
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Speaker 1: just a bad day at the office, maybe some eyser

609
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Speaker 1: on you. That's what I wanted one or the other.

610
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Speaker 1: And we got four topics here, and the first one

611
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Speaker 1: is DAK and I know the answer to this one,

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Speaker 1: but I do want to dive into this with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you just go through speaking of

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Speaker 1: numbers and analytics and all that I mean, Dak has

615
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Speaker 1: never had a game this bad. He just never has.

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Speaker 1: I mean this year they were dead last, worst of

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Speaker 1: the year in third down conversion. Start with that. But

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Speaker 1: this will scare you if you take away the two

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Speaker 1: final drives that McCarthy wanted to see to get something

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Speaker 1: out of it, and I grieving them on that. I

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Speaker 1: think Dak should have been out there and I think

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Speaker 1: that worked perfectly. But you take those two drives away,

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Speaker 1: the dude was seven for twenty two for one hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they could do nothing. Now, I'm thinking it

625
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Speaker 1: was just the day at the office, bad day at

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Speaker 1: the office for Dak. None of us are gonna question Dak.

627
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Speaker 1: It would take about twelve games like this before you

628
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Speaker 1: questioned Dak. But do you believe rust didn't bother him

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Speaker 1: in the opener after eleven months against Tampa? What sense

630
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Speaker 1: do you guys make out of Dak's performance? I think

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Speaker 1: that the difference between rusting or not having rust and

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Speaker 1: opening he was focused and opening the pool people wrong. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And let that goes with that, that arrogance, that that

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Speaker 1: self confident thing he was focusing open to pool people wrong,

635
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Speaker 1: and he did that this game. Things had been going well,

636
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: and he will talk about it. Maybe it wasn't rust,

637
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't. He lost some of the because things

638
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: had been gone so well, you know, and he'd been

639
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: playing so well that that played a role. And there's

640
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: some of the fundamentals some of the things that had

641
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: gone wrong or or or the accrescy or something like that.

642
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: So I think there's a difference between well he didn't

643
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: having problems with an opener with Russ, why they have

644
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: problems here. I don't know if it was Russ. I

645
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: just think it was a combination of things. They just

646
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: snowballed on him. Yeah, go ahead motion matches. I was

647
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna say, I really go back to if you want

648
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: to take it back to one play, it's that fourth

649
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: down throw to Cedric Wilson. I mean, and I'm saying

650
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: that just from watching the game over again. I didn't

651
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: think it in the moment, but watching the game over again,

652
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and then now him after the game, and then him

653
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: today talking bringing that that throw up, and it was

654
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: early in the game, and it's a throw that he

655
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: knows in his mind he's never gonna miss, and he

656
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: missed on that throw. And I think he was a

657
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: little bit pressed and after that, and I don't think

658
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: his game was on where it normally is, but those

659
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: numbers you read, though, I also can't put that all

660
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: on him, because man, there was just some uncharacteristic drops

661
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: in that game where you just kind of felt like, well,

662
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: whatever can go round can go, you're gonna have. And

663
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: he got greedy because there were times that it gave

664
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: me to start throwing deep when like, dude, there's got

665
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: to be something underneath. And it was only in the

666
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: fourth quarter he started taking underneath throws and moving the offense.

667
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: But he got greedied has a hand in that too,

668
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: and he admitted it on Monday. I heard it get

669
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: the first day. I gets the momentum is like one

670
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: of those fourth downs we overthrew CD. He could have

671
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: run for the first down, just deal some momentum with

672
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the offense, but he tried to get the big play.

673
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: And I know the big play was there, but sometimes

674
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: just you know, let's get a little bit at a time.

675
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just him. He usually don't say this

676
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: from the defense. The defense was pressing, you know, they

677
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: were they were trying to get the ball out and

678
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: stripping and and and next tell us. Yeah. Yeah, um,

679
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: you know the reason for me, I never really liked

680
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: those stats of seven for twenty two four hundred yards

681
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: until this or that because it is a fourth quarter game.

682
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: And so the reason why I'll say bad day at

683
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the office because I do think that those last two

684
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: drives probably helped. I'd rather than be there than just

685
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: him getting pulled and Rush comes in and who knows

686
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: what happens, and you certainly don't want Rush to do.

687
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: But but I'm just saying he's not gonna do well.

688
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: He might have because because he is kind of dinking dunk.

689
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I'm not even talking about him as

690
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: much as the fact that like Denver just wasn't playing

691
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: the same way. But people would have judged it from

692
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: afar as like if they were taking Dak out, they

693
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: also would have taken Zeke out. Hold On they probably

694
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns, I know. But but but Zeke was

695
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: still on the field late in the game, and Mari

696
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: was and Maris this is a deep receiving car. I mean,

697
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: the CD was still on the field on the last

698
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: two drifts as well. So yeah, I think something. But

699
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: let's go back. I in hindsight, yes, it was good

700
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: to get some build, some momentum and and and get

701
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: that taste out of your mouth. But it's hypocritical, and

702
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm with Jerry. You cannot be talking about decks Hilt

703
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: and worrying about the long term of decks Hill. Let me,

704
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: can I argue one week ago and then leave him

705
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: at the end of a blowout now when you have

706
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: no chance to fina run about if it is very

707
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: much the same thing. Never he gets hurt, chill, if

708
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: he gets hurt running the two bock virgin, how are

709
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: you gonna feel like, Nick? Let me do this. You've

710
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: been following the NFL for twenty four years. It doesn't

711
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: happen in the NFL. You don't go to the bullpen

712
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL. If you're having a bullpen, the game

713
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: was over if a quarterback. If a quarterback is in

714
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: the game, he finishes the game. That's not true. It

715
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: is absolutely bout. I've seen starting quarterbacks take a knee

716
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: when they're down thirty seven and at the end of

717
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: the seeing them put the backup in when the game

718
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: is over. You don't. You don't do that to Dak

719
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: That means he's quitting on his team. If they're he

720
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: is out there. If they're out there, he's out there.

721
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Take them off. That's the rule, and you move on.

722
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta move on. Let's get to the

723
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: next topic. Uh, the offensive line. I mean Terrence Steele

724
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: allowed eight pressures. That's three more than Tyrant all year

725
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: at left tackle. Um got handled by a rookie. He's

726
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: a Buckeye. Um, Zach didn't play great for him. Um,

727
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: is that a bad day at the office with this

728
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: reconfiguration of the line, if Tyrn's gonna be out or

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: does the boss have his or her eye on this situation. No,

730
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: this is not a bad day at the office. This

731
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: is this is an offensive line that is not a

732
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: great line anymore, not right now. It has great linemen

733
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: and when they're healthy, they make it better. Tyrn has

734
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: been playing great when he's healthy. And you know what

735
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: day of the week is at I mean, it hasn't

736
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: happened a lot. Zach Martin has had a great year

737
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: for the most of but but I mean, I think

738
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: they've got average players at center guard and right now

739
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins isn't even playing I don't think to the

740
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: level that we've seen from him, and Terrence Steele when

741
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: he's a backup that he's not as good so far

742
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: on the right side, So I think he added all up.

743
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, forty percent of your line is really good,

744
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: the other sixty is average. At past it's not it's

745
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: not such a great sounds very problematic. It is bum

746
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: but I do think they they'll be better. Not it

747
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: will be considerably better. But the fact that a second

748
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: game from Terry Steal, like, I mean, no, it's easy

749
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: to it's easy to hate on Terry Steel because he

750
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: didn't play well in the game, but like there's really

751
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: good like Hall of Fame level offensive tackles, offensive guards

752
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: that you move them from from one position to the

753
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: other in one week, they're not going to be that

754
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: great all of a sudden after you're getting used to

755
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: playing once. It's not like playing receiver on the right

756
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: side and then receiver on the left. That's that's a

757
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: difficult move to make. I think a second game there,

758
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: a second full week, and then I also think that

759
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Lyle now being back in there, I think he'll get

760
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more of the rust knocked off. But

761
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: to Nick nick hit it, I mean that you're I

762
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: couldn't sum it up any better than that. Well, this

763
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: is not the offensive line to the Cowboys. One of

764
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: the most underappreciated jobs on an NFL roster to me

765
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: is the swing tackle. That's what they have to be

766
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: able to do. If you're ready to do it, ready

767
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: swing tackle. Chill a bad day at the office or

768
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: the boss has the eye out on this on the

769
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: team with offense. Offensive line, Oh, I think that the

770
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line is not special. This is not a

771
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: dominant line anymore. Not Certainly take Tyre Smith out and

772
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a it's a step down.

773
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: And and Lyle Collins is not playing like Lyle Collins

774
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of two years ago, you know, and and you know

775
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: when he didn't an opener, you know his Tampa and

776
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: and so you know, he didn't a training camp. He

777
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: wasn't the dominant player we saw two years ago. But

778
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I would say this, the offensive line was not the

779
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: reason they lost. It was not the reason Dak mispasses,

780
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: wasn't a reason the Marty Cooper dropped pads. It wasn't

781
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: El didn't help, but it wasn't. I mean, everybody's killing

782
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: Terrence Steel, but his pressures were not the reason why

783
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: this offense bogged down throughout the game for most of

784
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: that game. He was also out there to the end,

785
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, when Dak was making plays, so you you know,

786
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: uh as we talked about that momentum, and he did

787
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: play better to our the end, but they were It

788
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: was a bad day to office all around for everybody,

789
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: all right, not just office quick on the offense of

790
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: line good numbers, but he was part of that defense.

791
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: They gave up brushes. I mean, we wanted he had

792
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: good tackles, but he gave He was part of them,

793
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: them breaking tackles to what do they get? All right? Uh,

794
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: if Tyrn's gonna be in and out, is this offensive

795
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: line gonna keep this team from winning a super Bowl

796
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: or even winning two playoff games? I mean, is it

797
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: that big of a problem. Are they good enough to

798
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: do what we may think this team can do? If yeah, yeah,

799
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to answer first on that one. But even

800
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: though that question is kind of a you know, it's

801
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: out there, it's it's it's like a loaded question, but yeah,

802
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: it will because think about the playoffs, think about those

803
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: games like that, Think about what happens when you don't score,

804
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: you get down there and you waste opportunities because your

805
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: offensive line can't run the ball and get the first

806
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: thing down third and goal or fourth and goal, you

807
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: settle for field goals and you lose. So ultimately, yeah,

808
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: I think it could be if they would have lost

809
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: in New England and got close, you go back to

810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: those fourth downs where they just couldn't push it for

811
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: one yard. I think the offensive line is going to

812
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: be the difference on this time. But I think that

813
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: the question was if Tyer Smith's out, I think that's

814
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: why you're holding him out. You're trying to get the

815
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: mails I said last week, I don't know, we weren't here.

816
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: We talked about yeah, should I mean click, get that

817
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: thing cleaned up because we're going to the playoffs. Because

818
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: you're holding them back in the playoffs, Let's get the

819
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: thing helped down. I'm with you on that, all right.

820
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Next topic, Treyvon Diggs. He gives up eighty one yards

821
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: in this game, sixty four air yards. Um. We all

822
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: have enjoined the excitement of Treyvon Diggs, but in coverage,

823
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: bad day at the office, we've seen a little bit

824
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: of this from him or Boss has the eyes on it. No,

825
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's this is how a guy

826
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: falls in the second round because there are some parts

827
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of his game. He's got some holes in his in

828
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: his game, but the highs are very high, and so

829
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: you take the good with the bad, Like anybody that

830
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: really thought he was Dion Sanders, then yeah, okay, then yeah,

831
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna be very disappointed by this. But he's still

832
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: a really good corner. He's still an elite level Pro

833
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber corner. He's gonna have some bad days of

834
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the office, but when the good is there, it's it's

835
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: elite good. And so yeah, I mean, I think he's

836
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: already exceeded even pretty strong. Show is coming pretty strong.

837
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: That's good. Even if even if he doesn't, uh, you know,

838
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: keep up this pace, which nobody should have thought he

839
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: was going to keep up this pace of interceptions per week,

840
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: he still is exceeding anything anybody should expect it from him. So, yeah,

841
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be bad days of the office. This league

842
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: is loaded with great receivers and great quarterbacks. Like he's

843
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna have bad days. I don't think it's something you

844
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: got to panic about. I mean, he's still the best

845
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: player on their in their defensive back. I can't help

846
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: but to think guys and don't throw something at me.

847
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: But this is the way I think. Okay, the interceptions

848
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: are wonderful, they matter, but Byron Jones was consistently good

849
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: and now I'll take you know, he just wasn't giving

850
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: up eighty four yards. I'll take Treyvon Digs over that

851
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: all day long. And the reason why this defense is

852
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: so much better when it gets those takeaways. Not having

853
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: any takeaways these last two weeks, it's hurt that. Yeah,

854
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: way we'll talk about this defense. Okay, teams, I completely

855
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: agree with you on certain teams. I think by that

856
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: can cover, and I think that everybody has a different

857
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: preference on what you would like, and that I personally

858
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: think with the way this team's constructed, with the way

859
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: their offense is, I want the guys taken and he

860
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: can cover. I mean sometimes the other team makes the

861
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: play so they get paid too. That that first touchdown,

862
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at that, that was

863
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful pa. It was dropped in the bucket.

864
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Good round. That's a good round. That's why Bridgewater is sneaky. Well,

865
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: as I was saying that was a beautiful pass, I

866
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: watched it on NFL pilm. They put something out there

867
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: and just watching this little more you know those NFL

868
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: films to do a great job. But that just was

869
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: a beautiful pan again. All right, final topic, and we

870
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: only got a few minutes here before we got to

871
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: take our second break the run defense. Here we go

872
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: again with this bad day at the office. Horrible day

873
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: at the office. One hundred and ninety yards. Come on, uh,

874
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think Denver's only average in a hundred yards

875
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: a game. With this duo that has been struggling, Gordon

876
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Javanta and all of a sudden bam against the Cowboys.

877
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: This to me has to be a little something more

878
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: than just a bad day at the office. No, it

879
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: is it? What was the other one? It was the

880
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: bad day or what was it? The boss has these eyes,

881
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: boss has the eyes on I mean this run defensive problems, Yeah,

882
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: it was. It's better than it was last year. I mean,

883
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: not that that's saying much, but no, there's some there's

884
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: some issues there that they have to again with the

885
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: way this team is constructed on an offense, they I mean,

886
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, you just have to do

887
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: it this way. They have to get leads early so

888
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: that teams have to throw because if it can soon

889
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: do a game where another team gets a lead and

890
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: can just run downhill and run, like Nick mentioned on

891
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: the outside on the team. Man, it's rough. I don't

892
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't think this was just a bad day at

893
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the office. And this is where you've missed de Marcus

894
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Lawrence because you could say what you want about the

895
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: SAX last few years. He was on the air's force

896
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: stopping to run. You saw him an opener, he was great,

897
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, knocking the ball out. You know, you missed

898
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: that type of mentality. That's what Randy White used to

899
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: always tell me on the pregame show that I did

900
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: with him, was you got to hold the edge. Yeah,

901
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: that is number one. And so you missed that with

902
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: the markets launch and hopefully you're gonna get that back.

903
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, this this, I mean, they don't have a

904
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: lot of big guys in the middle of that defense.

905
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of big guys up front,

906
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: and they could get run over. And that's what they

907
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: did and that's what you worry about them getting run

908
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: over again. So we're talking about Nick, we're talking about

909
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: a mediocre offensive line. If Tyron's not in there and

910
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: a mediocre defensive line. All of a sudden, what are

911
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: we talking about? Talking about losing the war and the

912
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: trenches is what you're talking about. And that's what happens

913
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: at any level. That's why six A football doesn't play

914
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: one A football because they would get dominated in the trenches,

915
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: big boys, And that's the problem. I think this this defense,

916
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: it was a weird game on defensive line. Like we said,

917
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: ten tackles for loss. They were getting up the field. Also,

918
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: DIGGI Zoo, I think is gonna be a really good player.

919
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: He's he's already a good player. Uh he's fast, he's quick.

920
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, same thing. But sometimes that speed can can

921
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: go against you, you know, And I think maybe that

922
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: that's what happened. You get a little aggressive, you get

923
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: out of your lane, you're get trying to make all

924
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: these plays, and they ended up, you know, gashing them.

925
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: So I think they got to be more discipline than that.

926
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: This defense was. It was you know, do you want

927
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: do you want someone to go out and get three

928
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: home runs and three strikeouts or do you want them

929
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: to be singles hitters and walks and be a little

930
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: bit more, and that's it's a feast or famine type

931
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: of defense. It looks like right now tranches look a

932
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: lot better when you have Tyrnt Smith out there, Neville Gallimore,

933
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory to Marcus Lawrence. These are guys that are

934
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: on the roster, are coming back this year. So your

935
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: hope is that you maybe during this time a Chauncey

936
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: Golston comes along and develops a little bit more in

937
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: osa so that you have them on top of these

938
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: other guys coming back, and then you're hitting on all

939
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: cylinders and you can't I can't wait to see it,

940
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: can't wait to see them all out there. And it

941
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: may happen right when you need it to happen. But

942
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: I think in general overall, it was a bad day

943
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: at the office for the Dallas Cowboys. But it's okay

944
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: if you're the boss to have your eye on this

945
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: or that as we kind of mash it up a

946
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: little bit. I believe this is I said this yesterday.

947
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: I was amazed at how the Minnesota Vikings had no

948
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: energy against the Cowboys, and I feel like the Cowboys

949
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: caught a bug in Minneapolis, a lethargy bug or something,

950
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: because the Vikings came with nothing, no energy, nothing, and

951
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys looked just like them in this game after

952
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: they took advantage of it in the previous game. But

953
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,759
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955
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Speaker 1: on this Thursday, I want to talk about Matt Ryan

998
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn six years together in Atlanta. Matt Ryan

999
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: had a wonderful news conference in front of the d

1000
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: in Atlanta talking about Dan. He loves him. He says

1001
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: there's very few human beings better than Dan Quinn. And

1002
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: then he got into the nuts of it that Quinn

1003
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: has knowledge quote quote has knowledge of my skill set

1004
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: for sure. And then he said, yeah, but there's some

1005
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: guys on that defense that I have some knowledge about

1006
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: two um in those terms, who gets the advantage here?

1007
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Is it Quinn playing Ryan or Ryan playing Keanu and

1008
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: Kaz It's it's Quinn versus Quinn has the advantage and

1009
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: the reason why is like even Matt said in that

1010
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: and that press conference that you know he mentioned Kean

1011
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: O'Neill or I think he might have been asked about

1012
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: him specifically, and he even says Kean oeil is is

1013
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: not playing the same position that he was playing in Atlanta.

1014
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: This is something completely new. He was being he was

1015
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: a safety in Atlanta. That that's who Matt Ryan was

1016
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: seen in practice. This linebacker role is something different. And

1017
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: then even with Kean O'Neil and to Monte Casey still

1018
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: leaves nine other defenders out there. There's a lot more

1019
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: difference there. Whereas I feel that Dan Quinn is going

1020
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: to know Matt Ryan so well that there's gonna be

1021
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: little things that he's gonna know that hey do this.

1022
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: This throws him off his game a little bit. And

1023
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna shut him out him. He's

1024
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. He's a really good quarterback. But I think

1025
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: he's gonna have little things that he knows that they're

1026
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: gonna do that just makes him a little bit more uncomfortable.

1027
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I think the advantage actually goes to Matt Ryan um

1028
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: because you know, he's talking about the other people that

1029
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: he knows and he could easily you could say, well

1030
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: that he's talking about Casey, we're talking about kenle Neil's

1031
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: he probably talking about Quinn as well. I mean he's

1032
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: seen this practice, he's I mean, he's seen this in practice.

1033
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: He's seen the way he likes to play. Now he does,

1034
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, trick it up a little bit. He doesn't

1035
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: just play like one one way, one style. But I

1036
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: think he's he's a student of the game and I

1037
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, I mean it's it's gonna be a

1038
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: good chess match. But I think they both have advantages.

1039
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: But I think Matt Ryan has some advantages too, just

1040
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: knowing the style that that Dan Quinn likes to play. Clarence,

1041
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: you with us here, Yes, know what's going on on Twitter?

1042
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: Ture and Clarence. What's happening right? Is there a flint

1043
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: Stone tweet you didn't know about? Odell had mess from

1044
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Office's okay, I got a job. All the offices on

1045
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: bat day, the officers office, the boss watching you from

1046
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: the office. But I like your point in it. Seriously,

1047
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on your side on this because when

1048
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: he came from Seattle, he's the defensive guru and Matt

1049
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: These quarterbacks when they've got a lot of years in

1050
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: the league and they're good, that's what they can do.

1051
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: They pay attention to what defenses and how to beat him.

1052
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: That's not a Matt Ryan thing. That's that's a veteran quarterback.

1053
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I understand this isn't the same in Atlanta. He's doing

1054
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: different things defense, and he was doing that, but tendencies

1055
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: he comes into Atlanta completely switches their defense. Matt Ryan's

1056
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: paying attention to all that. He knows what dan Quinn,

1057
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: gets comfortable with what he wants to do, what he

1058
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: may do here and there. I think the advantage is

1059
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. No, it advantages dan Quinn. Dad quinn't knows

1060
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Mett Ryan, but it Mett Ryan do dan Quinn because

1061
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Number one, dan Quinn bases defense on his personnel. He

1062
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: has different personnelity Seattle, different personnel in Atlanta. I mean,

1063
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: the one thing that the Cowboys talking about you talking

1064
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: to some of the players, that he matches his schemes

1065
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: to what his players do best. You know, are you

1066
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: saying Marinelli didn't, No, not not as well as Dan No. No,

1067
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: it was just a joke ahead and so you know,

1068
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: and if we talk about a defense girgule in Seattle. Yeah,

1069
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: I could be a girgule too, would have had this

1070
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: the legion of Boom, you know. And he's a great

1071
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: defense coordinator. He's a great defens coordinator. But he has

1072
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: the special players, you know, and some Hall of Fame

1073
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: type players I think on that Seattle defense, Come on,

1074
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I think that's short sighted a little bit though. No, Yeah,

1075
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: that's a weird look. He's allowed to say that. No, No,

1076
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: I think it is because what you're saying is is

1077
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: that is that Matt Ryan. No, because it's like, well,

1078
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's got different personnel than than he had before.

1079
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: I mean when when Atlanta, when he had Atlanta, I mean,

1080
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: who was the tight end. There wasn't a tight end

1081
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: like Kyle Pitts. There wasn't this. There wasn't this exactly

1082
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: three years ago. Tony goes back to back that years ago.

1083
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: You you're saying that dan Quinn doesn't have the same

1084
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: personnel here as he had and Matt Ryan's playing with

1085
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: a kick returner who's turned into an offensive playmaker and

1086
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: the best receiver now is a tight end. I mean

1087
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: I would saying things, yes, but I would say that

1088
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Dad Quinn knows that Matt Ryan the quarterback, what he

1089
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: likes to do, what are he more comfortable with best,

1090
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: then that Matt Ryan on Dad Quinn with different personnel.

1091
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: Because not about dan Quinn is about who we got.

1092
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: This is about Matt Ryan and Matt Ryan. I don't

1093
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: care what the offense is. What he does best is

1094
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: what he does best, period. I'm with Nick because I

1095
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: don't think dan Quinn was paying that much of attention

1096
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: to what Matt Ryan was doing. He was worried about

1097
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: his defense. People people in Atlanta will argue that that

1098
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: wasn't the case at all. That they're very critical the

1099
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: Ryan's not taking and they didn't have special players on

1100
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: that defense. But in practice, he knows what the defense

1101
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: is doing and what Quinn is calling against him. And

1102
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: the biggest factor in all this question, the biggest factor

1103
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: in all this is that Randy Gregory's playing. That really hurts.

1104
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: It's limiting him big time. Hey, let's not rule out

1105
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan was the offensive player of the Week

1106
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: in the NFC. He's still a good player. He's not

1107
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: saying really really all right? Uh, Cordarrel Patterson or Kyle

1108
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: Pitts which one is scarier in this game? Chill you first?

1109
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: Co Pits, Cole Pits prototypical tight end co Pits, the

1110
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: one Jerry Jones celebrated over cop Pits. Let's go with

1111
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: cop Pitt. You were looking out earlier when they were

1112
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: yelling each other, like some spittle came out of his

1113
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: mouth and like landed somewhere. Oh, you know, we've been

1114
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: talking to tight end all year. I'm talking about special

1115
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: tight end. That's a special tight you know what he's

1116
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: got to produce. The sad part if he would have

1117
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: said Cordel Patterson, it would have been as we got

1118
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: Clarence's rather flamboyant answer. Cole Nickman, which one Patterson or Pit?

1119
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: You know, all these conversation conversation, So we're still going

1120
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: back to the tight end question. Yeah, a full circle.

1121
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: You and I have arguments that are twenty years old.

1122
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Week keep coming back to. You know, honestly, I think

1123
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: Patterson actually because man, we're just other than wearing that hat.

1124
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know what kind of have I'm bothered

1125
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: by the heads going on. This is a golf of

1126
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: naglenn Eagles country called the North South is a big

1127
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: event and I'm a Northeast. See it's the North against

1128
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: the South. North locker rooms, South locker room, and we

1129
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: just won the Cup. The North just won the Cup

1130
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday last week. Back to you, Nick, I go.

1131
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I go with Cordell Patterson just because he's just such

1132
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: a unique type of matchup and you know where's he

1133
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: gonna be, Where's he gonna play in the same Now

1134
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: you can say the same about Pits because he's a

1135
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: tight end that's really more of a receiver and all that. Um,

1136
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of other firepower. I think

1137
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: Diggs might might have to travel a little bit with

1138
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: with him, um, and then I wonder how good he'll

1139
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: be in that in that type of setting. Patterson, though,

1140
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: just because such a unique player the nuances there that

1141
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: one kind of worries me. Okay, and real quick, but

1142
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: showed it before you answer, how did it take people

1143
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: so long to get this out of court? Daryl Patterson,

1144
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: He's been in the league forever and he is a monster. Yeah.

1145
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer for that, but he is

1146
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: the pick on here because of what we talked about

1147
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: earlier with the run defense. Talked about earlier about the edge,

1148
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: getting on the edge, and what problems you can cause there. Uh,

1149
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: the sloppy tackling. This is a guy that you have

1150
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: sloppy tackles against. It's going to be a nightmare. Uh.

1151
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: And then the onlier thing is that Dan Quinn took

1152
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: over his head coach of the Falcons twenty fifteen, Tony

1153
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: Gonzalez played his last game in Atlanta. Okay, hey, that

1154
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: was a shot. Sorry dat, it's got a subtweet right there. Yes, yes,

1155
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: let's give let's give Patterson some some credit with that too,

1156
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: of developing his game and not just I'm gonna be

1157
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: Josh Cribbs. I'm gonna be Devin Hester. I'm gonna be

1158
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: this badass returner. He's he's developed it as well. He's

1159
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: developed his skills. He kept going, he kept being a receiver.

1160
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: He's an aggressive returner. But but you know, and they

1161
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: also kind of figured it out. So I don't think

1162
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: it's just this coach that you know. I think I

1163
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: put a lot of it on Patterson. They were doing

1164
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: some of it in Minnesota. To your point though, it

1165
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: is so rare though, but literally if you don't see

1166
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: it early on, but they don't know how to use

1167
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: him as well because he was came in as a receiver.

1168
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Well vic n No, he was a return guy. He

1169
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 1: was a return but his position was received. Okay, Devin

1170
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: Hester's position. People. Yeah, but what I'm saying it though,

1171
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, good guy, he's a running back, I mean,

1172
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: and which is crazy. They got to switch that in fantasy.

1173
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: That's a joke. All right. Let me ask you this

1174
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: because these are important, I believe, And we're gonna start

1175
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: with the latest news because it may affect the Cowboys

1176
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um ob J to the Rams. Now,

1177
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: I know you and I are on a bit of

1178
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: different sides on this. I think he will be more

1179
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: effective with the Rams than de Shawn Jackson was. But

1180
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't think Beckham is the player he was. He's

1181
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: been a non factor the last two years. But still

1182
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: the Rams, I mean, they're not messing around. They're doing

1183
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: whatever they can, right. I mean, I like the message

1184
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 1: that they're sending. I do think that they're as good

1185
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: as he is and can be. And I do believe

1186
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: he still has tread left on the tire. He also

1187
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: can be a guy that tears apart your team a

1188
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: little bit behind the scenes. I mean, there are a

1189
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: lot of antics that go on with him that if

1190
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: you're like before Odell Beckham whatever, five hours ago, I

1191
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: still thought the rams were You're gonna have to go

1192
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: through them to get some super Bowl. So you add

1193
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: him in there, It's like, I don't know how much

1194
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: you really necessarily need him, but I do like the

1195
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: idea of where they're going with the way they've built

1196
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: this team, like they're all in on this. If Van

1197
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: Jefferson gets two catches for six yards in the game,

1198
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: you know this week, that's probably not a headline. If

1199
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham gets two catches for six yards, it could be,

1200
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: and he could be the reason that it is a headline.

1201
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: So you're right about that. But I mean, Cooper cup

1202
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: was already have two thousand yards pat every I mean,

1203
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: it's been He's phenomenal. It's unreal what they're doing. So

1204
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: if he and Robert Woods is phenomenal too. Yeah, But

1205
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't believe there will be drama

1206
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think we've never we've never not seen

1207
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: it with him. But I don't think Sean McVay cares,

1208
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think Matt Stafford cares. Those are two

1209
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: personalities that will not play into the dramas. If things

1210
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: are going well, they won't do the Cowboys play the

1211
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Rams in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, and they

1212
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: probably will because if so, because they're gonna be like

1213
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: two and two and fifteen back, you know, in about

1214
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: four years, because it's got no drafting anybody. Yeah, this is,

1215
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: this is, this is. They're going at it. I mean

1216
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: in their new stadium. And I think if they I

1217
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: think if their entire front office was sitting here, they

1218
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: would tell you the exact same thing. They're like, No,

1219
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: we expect that to happen. We expected that. We've got

1220
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: we've got aces, and we are going all in and

1221
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: we're just gonna tell you we're going the super Bowl

1222
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: in their own stadium. Ye didn't we just see that? Um?

1223
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: All right? The other one, Cam Newton is back. I

1224
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: know you're excited about this too. You've always loved Cam

1225
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: Newton and why not. He's a superlative player when he's healthy.

1226
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: Matt Rule called him with Darnold going to I are

1227
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: and you know that team's four and five, they've got

1228
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: some ability and decent defense. Cam Newton could get that

1229
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: team right into the playoff mix. Yeah, they needed a

1230
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: shot in the arm there. I mean, they were playing

1231
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: well early in the season and you know, I think

1232
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if the Cowboys exposed them

1233
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. Many they beat him pretty good in that game.

1234
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: Did they provide the blueprint? Yeah? Blueprint. I mean McCarthy said,

1235
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: this is how you play him, you know, right right,

1236
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: so everybody else just has him and playing him right

1237
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: right Fancia Okay, I mean did he break his arm

1238
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: petting himself on the I like McCarthy's lying on that,

1239
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: by the way, But I will say this, I have

1240
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: been bragging about how it is so nice to have

1241
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: a coaching advantage with this team. It's been a while,

1242
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: and the coaches got beat. They got beat. They got

1243
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: beat in this Denver game. Comment about Cam, No, I'm

1244
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: about Camp. I mean, just think about it. They cut Cam,

1245
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: they trained it for Sam Donald. They're trying and they've

1246
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: got no future Cam. Yeah, they could have kept Camp,

1247
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: And I think about it. I do believe if Cam

1248
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: Wo's quarterback all year, they maybe have a winning record,

1249
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: They maybe have a better record and better chance of

1250
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: making the playoffs than they are right now. I'm just

1251
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: sitting here and have seen him. I'm gonna go ahead,

1252
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: and I'm just amazed that all the teams have on

1253
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: Justice been awful. I mean, if you want a future,

1254
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got no future at the quarterback. They're

1255
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: just grabbing. Okay, the Jets don't want Darnald, Let's try him.

1256
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: They might. These teams gotta go find their guy in

1257
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: the draft and commit to it. That's what the Chiefs

1258
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: did with Mahomes. He got a pick, right, Yeah, it's

1259
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: got a right grab one in this year's draft because

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Speaker 1: they make the same case he said about the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I mean with Darnold, they keep drafting a right quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They had Mike White on alone. But your point about

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Speaker 1: the Ram's future, I feel that way about Carolina is

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Speaker 1: they got no future until late, until you get the

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson this offseason. No get a young quarterback? What

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Speaker 1: real is not old? He's not old. He played forty eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty not old. I think he's twenty six. He was

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Speaker 1: a little old for him. He's maybe twenty six. He

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Speaker 1: was on that Clemson team that beat ours. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what you say, you were dead twenty He said it.

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Speaker 1: This is his second bomb. Yeah, all right, Oh that's

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Speaker 1: not even a bad word anymore, is it. Shann Watson

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Speaker 1: the bottom line of dehnat old tell us say you

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Speaker 1: need to go get when you get one of the

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Speaker 1: top five quarterbacks of the game, go get him. He

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Speaker 1: turned twenty six last month. Didn't they just get mad

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Speaker 1: about Watson? Watson? You got him in the top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league when he said another crap right

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Speaker 1: now playing before he got Yeah, Shoun was a special quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, all right. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear from me before we go on. You can't

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Speaker 1: go Teve. You guys have other shows to do and

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Speaker 1: other things to talk about, but I won't talk to

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Speaker 1: you again. Real quick. They're gonna get it all right

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Speaker 1: with Atlanta. You Cowboys win win Winter beat down better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they will beat They will beat better. Ass. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this is gonna be watch your mouth, young. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna beat them down. I think Dak has five

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Speaker 1: five passing touchdowns in that's a lot of points. Chill

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Speaker 1: you you agree? Historically Dak following the loss eighteen wins

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Speaker 1: nine losses, uh forty touchdowns. And you know, I would

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Speaker 1: like to say this, of all the things swirling around,

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Speaker 1: including the Gregory injury, which sucks, um, Dak is the

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Speaker 1: answer if you believe in the answer, the answers Dak.

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Speaker 1: So just keep waiting to see what he does. Because

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Speaker 1: when you've got that elite quarterback which these other teams

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Speaker 1: are searching searching for, that's the difference. And hey, if

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Speaker 1: you need a late watermelon kick, this is the team

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Speaker 1: to do it. Again. That's what you don't have. Zerline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sa say his name again. You say it's so quickly. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you practiced. Yes, you had to go

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Speaker 1: over and over it again. That's a good effort. Good

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Speaker 1: effort figured out how to spells Zerline. Hey, fellas, thanks

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Speaker 1: for talk to Cowboys first with you again you thanks

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Gonzalez back there behind the wall doing what

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Speaker 1: he did. Thank you guys. Enjoy the game home again

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Speaker 1: against Atlanta on Sunday. We'll be back with media bad

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Speaker 1: Mash next Wednesday and Thursday at four o'clock. Bye. This

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