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Speaker 2: We Got Lots, just.

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Speaker 3: We got lost?

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Speaker 2: Just what better here?

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Speaker 4: And we hope you stay because.

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Speaker 2: We got lost?

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Speaker 3: Just say, yeah, we got lots.

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Speaker 5: Just say.

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Speaker 6: Here's Bobby that we're almost to the starting line. We're

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Speaker 6: almost almost.

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Speaker 7: There to the starting line? What is it a week

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Speaker 7: and a half away? Yeah, I'm pretty fired up about this.

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Speaker 8: And it almost feels like it's starting anyway because college

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Speaker 8: starts this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so it's like football starts.

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Speaker 5: Football's here, baby.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: It's so cool.

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Speaker 7: I mean, is there anything better than the start of

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Speaker 7: a football season. Everybody's undefeated, Expectations are high for everybody,

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Speaker 7: maybe not Arkansas.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time.

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Speaker 6: Dang, I got me, shoot, got me shoot.

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Speaker 7: No, but it's an exciting I'm a year for sure,

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Speaker 7: especially the start of football season as fans. But also

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Speaker 7: I can go back to when I played. There's nothing

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Speaker 7: like opening day environments.

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Speaker 6: Even if you're on a bad team.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you're on a bad team, it's probably not

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Speaker 7: as exciting. No, it's exciting because, like I said, everybody's

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Speaker 7: undefeated and you go into a season and you know that, look,

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Speaker 7: and you've got an opportunity, and you don't know how

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Speaker 8: That was my next question. Do you know you're on

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Speaker 8: a bad team but you don't know yet.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's great players on every team.

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Speaker 7: It's whether or not you come together as a team

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Speaker 7: definitely can go into a season and know, we've got

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Speaker 7: some holes right at the wide receiver position, or depth

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Speaker 8: What team were you on that was projected the worst?

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Speaker 8: It ended up being not a Super Bowl champion by

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Speaker 7: Well, the first season I got to Kansas City, I

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Speaker 7: But then that next season, I don't think anybody was

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Speaker 5: But he also played some wide receivers.

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Speaker 6: I remember watching mcluster ole miss dude.

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Speaker 7: He use a savage, a lightning bolt, lightning bolt, and

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Speaker 7: But he also played so much bigger than his size.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, let's go back and forth.

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Speaker 8: Kenny Pickett got into the Raiders.

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Speaker 8: So Canny Pickett goes to the Raiders. Well, O'Connor got hurt,

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Speaker 6: Then Vegas has got to go find a back up.

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Speaker 8: Well, turns out Cleveland's got five quarterbacks on the roster, right,

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Speaker 5: Here right now?

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Speaker 7: I don't think that their intent was ever going to

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Speaker 8: And so now Gabriel's second quarterback, should there's third quarterback?

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Speaker 7: Right, and what he gets sacked five times in that game,

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Speaker 7: and there's something to be said. Look, you're in preseason,

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Speaker 5: So you hold onto the ball.

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Speaker 7: For any long period of time that allows them to

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Speaker 8: Number One, I do now think that first preseason game

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Speaker 8: It's that you don't want the circus for a second

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Speaker 7: And that's that's part of this whole process that as

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Speaker 5: You know along with that it's going to be the noise.

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Speaker 7: But if we know anything about the Cleveland Browns, they

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Speaker 8: I think both quarterbacks will get a shot to show

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Speaker 5: And that's just how the league goes.

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Speaker 7: But again, that won't happen unless they're truly out of

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Speaker 5: All right, you're up, all right?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean I think that there were some big

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Speaker 5: This point, I don't know what their defense is going to.

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Speaker 5: At all, I just started, it's awesome.

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Speaker 7: I mean they're sitting down with Jerry Jones and you know,

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Speaker 7: That's what all these fails like. And so they're going

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Speaker 6: Well, I eliminated them, so they're not my team.

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Speaker 7: So they also weren't Arkansas supposedly, I know, and then

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Speaker 6: Yeah, weren't you leaning toward Vikings?

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Speaker 8: Has nothing to do with Kevin O'Connell, you know what

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Speaker 5: You don't think it gets cold in Denver?

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Speaker 6: It does?

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Speaker 5: You watch the games?

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Speaker 7: City is awesome, And I'm pretty sure you're just acquiescing

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Speaker 8: First of all, you grew up somewhat your skiing somewhat

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Speaker 5: So you'd go float the river. We would go wash

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Speaker 6: So I think Denver to me is different than Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: What am I to do?

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Speaker 6: Mall of America?

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Speaker 5: The Mall America is pretty sick.

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Speaker 6: It is legitimate.

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Speaker 8: So my two teams that I'm deciding between are going

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be die hard for a whole year.

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Speaker 8: We'll see how they treat me and then we'll see

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Speaker 5: All right over to you. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 7: Have you ever been a contract negotiation where you didn't

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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

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Speaker 8: very little money because they were only hiring me to

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Speaker 8: do one episode at a time, and I was making

446
00:18:35,016 --> 00:18:38,255
Speaker 8: Union minimal, which was like twenty three hundred bucks an episode,

447
00:18:38,696 --> 00:18:40,376
Speaker 8: and they didn't know I didn't live in La So

448
00:18:40,416 --> 00:18:42,335
Speaker 8: I was like flying back and forth, not telling anybody

449
00:18:42,376 --> 00:18:43,015
Speaker 8: paying for everything.

450
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Speaker 6: So I was losing money, yes.

451
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Speaker 8: And so I was losing money, But my agent was

452
00:18:49,296 --> 00:18:52,696
Speaker 8: negotiating with them for a year two and they came

453
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Speaker 8: back and they offered me like to do the whole

454
00:18:55,256 --> 00:18:58,295
Speaker 8: season for like eighty thousand dollars and my agents like,

455
00:18:58,455 --> 00:19:00,296
Speaker 8: do not accept that money?

456
00:19:00,336 --> 00:19:02,296
Speaker 6: Oh seriously, He's like, do not accept the money.

457
00:19:02,296 --> 00:19:04,455
Speaker 8: So I know you want the you want to be

458
00:19:04,495 --> 00:19:06,015
Speaker 8: on the show and what it'll be with it, but

459
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Speaker 8: we're not. And honestly, it was like, we're not going

460
00:19:07,696 --> 00:19:10,215
Speaker 8: to take anything lessan a million. And I'm like, there's

461
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Speaker 8: a big difference in eighty thousand and a million.

462
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:13,775
Speaker 5: Yes, one hundred percent.

463
00:19:14,256 --> 00:19:16,576
Speaker 8: And I was like, if we ask for a million,

464
00:19:17,735 --> 00:19:19,376
Speaker 8: there's a chance we don't even make We don't even

465
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Speaker 8: we're not even on the show.

466
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Speaker 7: I mean they're offering eighty thousand, like you're making a

467
00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:24,736
Speaker 7: massive jump ten x.

468
00:19:24,816 --> 00:19:29,575
Speaker 8: And he goes major goes, trust me on this, and

469
00:19:29,616 --> 00:19:31,736
Speaker 8: so I did and ended up making a million two

470
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Speaker 8: for that year. Hell yeah, but I would have taken

471
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Speaker 8: eighty thousand dollars.

472
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Speaker 6: I was ready to jump in.

473
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Speaker 8: And take eighty thousand dollars because I was like, oh,

474
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Speaker 8: I do want to mess this up. Whenever you're negotiating contracts,

475
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Speaker 8: is that ever a situation where it's.

476
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Speaker 6: Like should I are we sure I can ask for

477
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Speaker 6: this much?

478
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Speaker 7: Oh?

479
00:19:46,176 --> 00:19:47,055
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.

480
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Speaker 7: I remember I got franchised in New England when after

481
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Speaker 7: the season I played, I got franchise, so I signed

482
00:19:54,896 --> 00:19:58,056
Speaker 7: that franchise center, which is a top three or four

483
00:19:58,136 --> 00:19:59,856
Speaker 7: salaries of all the quarterbacks in the league. I was like,

484
00:19:59,896 --> 00:20:01,815
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, I've got a golden ticket. And then

485
00:20:01,856 --> 00:20:04,975
Speaker 7: I got traded to Kansas City and you're looking for

486
00:20:05,016 --> 00:20:08,936
Speaker 7: that law long term deal, some security there. But the

487
00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:12,896
Speaker 7: negotiation process is so stressful because your agent's trying to

488
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Speaker 7: get the most for you. But you're like, am Sometimes

489
00:20:16,735 --> 00:20:19,775
Speaker 7: you question, am I deserving of this of getting paid

490
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Speaker 7: the same amount as a Drew Brees that has been

491
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Speaker 7: doing it for years or one of these other great

492
00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:28,055
Speaker 7: quarterbacks that have been played and number two, is it

493
00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:29,696
Speaker 7: all going to go?

494
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Speaker 5: Go for not?

495
00:20:30,416 --> 00:20:32,055
Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day they might come

496
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Speaker 7: back and say, are you out of your mind?

497
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Speaker 8: You know that's what I was working about. No chance,

498
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Speaker 8: we're not giving you that, and we're going to move

499
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Speaker 8: on to another quarterback.

500
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Speaker 7: And at the same time they offer you a contract

501
00:20:39,416 --> 00:20:41,656
Speaker 7: and the first contract comes through and you're like, this

502
00:20:41,735 --> 00:20:43,616
Speaker 7: is more than I ever imagined that I would make

503
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Speaker 7: in my life. Let alone, this will set me up.

504
00:20:46,576 --> 00:20:48,496
Speaker 7: This is great, Let's sign it. And he's like, no, no, no,

505
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Speaker 7: I don't sign because the last thing you want to

506
00:20:51,256 --> 00:20:53,735
Speaker 7: do is work so hard get to that point where

507
00:20:53,735 --> 00:20:56,776
Speaker 7: you can sign it a contract that, in anybody's mind

508
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Speaker 7: would be amazing.

509
00:21:00,296 --> 00:21:02,136
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I was going to take it. I was

510
00:21:02,176 --> 00:21:02,856
Speaker 6: going to take it.

511
00:21:02,936 --> 00:21:05,496
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I would have taken it probably three times.

512
00:21:05,696 --> 00:21:07,616
Speaker 7: But that's also when you start to learn you've got

513
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Speaker 7: to remove yourself from the situation.

514
00:21:09,376 --> 00:21:11,455
Speaker 5: Let them do their job because they know better than

515
00:21:11,495 --> 00:21:11,696
Speaker 5: you do.

516
00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:14,616
Speaker 8: Let the experts be experts one hundred per That was

517
00:21:14,656 --> 00:21:16,176
Speaker 8: hard for me, and now I do it all the time.

518
00:21:16,215 --> 00:21:17,216
Speaker 6: It's like you're the expert.

519
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Speaker 8: You do what you think because they're also tied in right,

520
00:21:20,455 --> 00:21:22,016
Speaker 8: Like they don't want the deal to fall through because

521
00:21:22,016 --> 00:21:24,776
Speaker 8: their money relies on my money, your money.

522
00:21:24,576 --> 00:21:26,416
Speaker 7: Right, they don't want the deal to fall through, and

523
00:21:26,416 --> 00:21:29,416
Speaker 7: they figure out a way to negotiate and make it work.

524
00:21:29,616 --> 00:21:32,055
Speaker 7: But it's always like, no, there's no way we're accepting this.

525
00:21:32,136 --> 00:21:33,176
Speaker 7: I was like, what are you talking.

526
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Speaker 6: I was like, it's eighty thousand dollars. What do you

527
00:21:34,975 --> 00:21:36,336
Speaker 6: mean we're not accepting eighty thousand dollars?

528
00:21:36,376 --> 00:21:38,616
Speaker 5: Oh, sign that, yes, He's like, no, we're getting more.

529
00:21:38,735 --> 00:21:40,816
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, you're kind of being greedy right now.

530
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Speaker 6: Do you have anything else? Do you have another one?

531
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Speaker 7: I thought one of the interesting signings this week was

532
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Speaker 7: the Minnesota Vikings signing Carson Wentz, who was a free agent,

533
00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:51,815
Speaker 7: but sending Sam Howe to the Eagles in a trade.

534
00:21:52,896 --> 00:21:55,016
Speaker 5: Sam Howe's a young player, done a lot of good

535
00:21:55,016 --> 00:21:55,696
Speaker 5: things in this league.

536
00:21:55,735 --> 00:21:59,056
Speaker 7: But Carson Wentz they bring him in, who hadn't been

537
00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:01,015
Speaker 7: with them all camp and has to get caught up

538
00:22:01,016 --> 00:22:03,616
Speaker 7: to speed. There's got to be something there. I just

539
00:22:03,616 --> 00:22:05,656
Speaker 7: thought it was really interesting that they made that move

540
00:22:05,816 --> 00:22:07,335
Speaker 7: this late in the preseason.

541
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Speaker 8: It's got to be a dynamic with somebody who's done

542
00:22:09,455 --> 00:22:12,535
Speaker 8: it because they're about the same level now, right, but

543
00:22:12,576 --> 00:22:14,696
Speaker 8: one's done it at a higher level before.

544
00:22:14,896 --> 00:22:15,056
Speaker 3: Right.

545
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Speaker 7: And the personality fit maybe like between the two players themselves,

546
00:22:18,975 --> 00:22:21,096
Speaker 7: because we know that JJ is going to be the guy,

547
00:22:21,416 --> 00:22:23,735
Speaker 7: maybe less threatening to have a guy like Carson Wentz

548
00:22:23,735 --> 00:22:26,176
Speaker 7: who knows that he's in that position, has been through

549
00:22:26,215 --> 00:22:28,775
Speaker 7: all the crap before. I just thought it was interesting

550
00:22:28,776 --> 00:22:31,535
Speaker 7: because again, Sam How's still a young player, but at

551
00:22:31,576 --> 00:22:34,336
Speaker 7: the same time, from a skill set standpoint, probably more

552
00:22:34,376 --> 00:22:36,056
Speaker 7: similar to JJ than Carson Wentz's.

553
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Speaker 6: If that kept Sam Hollett had been a Vikings guy,

554
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Speaker 6: But soon as they traded moment, I was like, I'm

555
00:22:40,215 --> 00:22:41,016
Speaker 6: out on the Vikings.

556
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Speaker 5: No how, no Bobby Carolina, Denver period.

557
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Speaker 8: My final thing is this happened right before we came

558
00:22:45,816 --> 00:22:50,536
Speaker 8: on Big Engagement. I heard, yeah, so it's a day

559
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,215
Speaker 8: old by the time you hear, but Travis and Taylor

560
00:22:52,215 --> 00:22:52,816
Speaker 8: got engaged.

561
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Speaker 7: I thought you had this conspiracy theory that this was

562
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Speaker 7: not the day they were broken up or.

563
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Speaker 5: Something like that. Didn't you have that?

564
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Speaker 6: I did not have that theory.

565
00:23:00,455 --> 00:23:01,136
Speaker 5: Somebody had that.

566
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Speaker 6: There are people that I work with that are constant like,

567
00:23:03,735 --> 00:23:04,976
Speaker 6: this isn't real. This isn't real.

568
00:23:05,936 --> 00:23:07,376
Speaker 5: Seems pretty real now.

569
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Speaker 8: Is it weird that she's getting engaged up before her

570
00:23:10,176 --> 00:23:10,896
Speaker 8: album comes out?

571
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Speaker 6: Is that weird?

572
00:23:12,256 --> 00:23:13,535
Speaker 5: Or right before season starts?

573
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Speaker 8: I think that's bad for football. I think it's good

574
00:23:16,256 --> 00:23:18,215
Speaker 8: for her album, But again, she doesn't need it. She

575
00:23:18,215 --> 00:23:20,055
Speaker 8: doesn't need it, right, so I don't think it's that.

576
00:23:20,176 --> 00:23:21,495
Speaker 8: But that just feeds the conspiracy.

577
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Speaker 5: But it's also not going to bring any more notoriety

578
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Speaker 5: to her.

579
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Speaker 6: It's like the Super bowlftime show. She doesn't need it, right.

580
00:23:27,816 --> 00:23:32,255
Speaker 7: But those were actually really interesting takes last week about

581
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Speaker 7: the little little hints.

582
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're going to break and come back with Stephen Jackson,

583
00:23:40,096 --> 00:23:41,936
Speaker 8: who was a beast from TV. He was a beast

584
00:23:41,936 --> 00:23:45,096
Speaker 8: about him play with you played against him, yeah, and.

585
00:23:44,975 --> 00:23:48,136
Speaker 7: He was always that guy that every defensive coordinator would

586
00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:51,015
Speaker 7: stay up late and have nightmares about because he was the.

587
00:23:51,016 --> 00:23:52,295
Speaker 5: Guy that you had to stop.

588
00:23:52,536 --> 00:23:56,215
Speaker 7: But he was such a physical runner that even if

589
00:23:56,215 --> 00:23:58,096
Speaker 7: you were in the right position, he'd run through your face.

590
00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,735
Speaker 7: But then he also had the long speed to go

591
00:23:59,776 --> 00:24:01,735
Speaker 7: break it long. He was a remarkable player.

592
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Speaker 8: All right, coming up, Stephen Jackson, we are about to

593
00:24:19,215 --> 00:24:22,256
Speaker 8: talk to legendary NFL running back Stephen Jackson.

594
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Speaker 6: You played against Evehen I did.

595
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Speaker 5: He was an absolute beast.

596
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Speaker 6: From what I remember, he was an absolute beast. But

597
00:24:28,616 --> 00:24:29,775
Speaker 6: you had to play against him.

598
00:24:29,656 --> 00:24:34,336
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's six two forty, agile, athletic, would

599
00:24:34,376 --> 00:24:35,776
Speaker 7: run through your face, make you miss.

600
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Speaker 5: But the other part.

601
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Speaker 7: A lot of times when you think about running backs

602
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Speaker 7: that are big in stature, you think about just a

603
00:24:41,215 --> 00:24:43,736
Speaker 7: downhill runner. No, he'd come out of the backfield. He'll

604
00:24:43,776 --> 00:24:45,856
Speaker 7: catch the ball gracefully. A lot of those guys have

605
00:24:45,896 --> 00:24:48,656
Speaker 7: brick hands, right, I mean, I'm no offense, Derek, You

606
00:24:48,776 --> 00:24:51,696
Speaker 7: were my teammate, but at the same time, he didn't

607
00:24:51,735 --> 00:24:52,736
Speaker 7: have great hands.

608
00:24:53,136 --> 00:24:56,376
Speaker 8: Stephen Jackson, the LA Rams all time leading rusher, had

609
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Speaker 8: over ten thousand, one hundred rush yards with his Rams career,

610
00:24:59,416 --> 00:25:02,656
Speaker 8: eighteenth all time NFL rushing list, eight consecutive one thousand

611
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Speaker 8: yard seasons.

612
00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:06,015
Speaker 6: He was a twenty fourth overall pick in the or Draft.

613
00:25:06,336 --> 00:25:08,656
Speaker 6: And here he is. You can follow on Instagram.

614
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Speaker 8: I am SJ thirty nine Steven Jackson.

615
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Speaker 6: Steven really good to talk with you, man. Thanks for

616
00:25:17,455 --> 00:25:20,015
Speaker 6: the time, no problem, Thanks for having me.

617
00:25:20,296 --> 00:25:22,616
Speaker 8: I do want to start off because I was watching

618
00:25:22,735 --> 00:25:25,336
Speaker 8: on YouTube your NFL Legends show, and I was watching

619
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Speaker 8: a little bit about Sterling Sharp and how you're advocating

620
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Speaker 8: for Sterling Sharp. So why this project? Like, what did

621
00:25:32,616 --> 00:25:34,495
Speaker 8: it make you? What was the passion behind it to

622
00:25:34,495 --> 00:25:34,975
Speaker 8: get started?

623
00:25:36,336 --> 00:25:36,536
Speaker 3: Yeah?

624
00:25:36,616 --> 00:25:39,176
Speaker 4: The quiet arms with you. I think you know. I'm

625
00:25:39,176 --> 00:25:41,496
Speaker 4: a football head. So growing up, I was a guy

626
00:25:41,576 --> 00:25:45,616
Speaker 4: that collected trading cards. I was watching all the highlights,

627
00:25:46,215 --> 00:25:51,815
Speaker 4: and I slowly began to favorite players over teams and nostalgia.

628
00:25:51,856 --> 00:25:53,735
Speaker 4: Looking back at stuff like that, I'm like, Yo, what

629
00:25:53,776 --> 00:25:55,416
Speaker 4: happened to that guy or what's his story?

630
00:25:55,455 --> 00:25:56,536
Speaker 3: What they're doing in life?

631
00:25:57,176 --> 00:25:59,096
Speaker 4: I go in great, I would go on and then

632
00:25:59,616 --> 00:26:03,055
Speaker 4: retire from football and join Legends community, which is about

633
00:26:03,176 --> 00:26:05,575
Speaker 4: uplifting the legends of the past and making sure or

634
00:26:05,576 --> 00:26:07,776
Speaker 4: that as we transition from the playing days to our

635
00:26:07,776 --> 00:26:10,616
Speaker 4: retirement days, that we still feel supported, we still feel

636
00:26:10,656 --> 00:26:13,616
Speaker 4: like we're in the locker room together. But each and

637
00:26:13,696 --> 00:26:15,616
Speaker 4: every year, I would look at the highlights or the

638
00:26:15,616 --> 00:26:19,056
Speaker 4: promos for the upcoming season and NFL will always feature

639
00:26:19,096 --> 00:26:21,336
Speaker 4: the same guys, and I'm like, well, there were.

640
00:26:21,215 --> 00:26:23,016
Speaker 3: Other guys that I had really great careers.

641
00:26:23,296 --> 00:26:25,976
Speaker 4: Let's reintroduce them to the new generation so they could

642
00:26:26,016 --> 00:26:27,535
Speaker 4: be familiar with them as I was.

643
00:26:28,176 --> 00:26:31,056
Speaker 7: So you're advocating for these guys that you've seen play

644
00:26:31,056 --> 00:26:34,696
Speaker 7: and all that stuff. My real question is who's advocating

645
00:26:34,735 --> 00:26:36,936
Speaker 7: for you in the hall big way? Because you used

646
00:26:36,975 --> 00:26:39,616
Speaker 7: to run the rock had an incredible career.

647
00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:41,855
Speaker 5: I mean, talk to me about that and what's your

648
00:26:41,936 --> 00:26:42,616
Speaker 5: view is on that.

649
00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:44,855
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that.

650
00:26:44,975 --> 00:26:47,696
Speaker 4: You know, I took great pride in every carry, every

651
00:26:47,696 --> 00:26:49,336
Speaker 4: time I tested the field. I wanted to leave it

652
00:26:49,336 --> 00:26:52,376
Speaker 4: all out there the game. The passion that I played

653
00:26:52,416 --> 00:26:54,096
Speaker 4: with it was true and authentic, and I think that's

654
00:26:54,096 --> 00:26:57,696
Speaker 4: why a lot of my fans connect with me. Who's

655
00:26:57,735 --> 00:26:59,975
Speaker 4: advocating for me now, I would just say you know

656
00:27:00,696 --> 00:27:03,856
Speaker 4: the most high and also guys like yourselves and other

657
00:27:03,936 --> 00:27:06,576
Speaker 4: sports writers that I remember I did in Saint Louis.

658
00:27:06,816 --> 00:27:09,055
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for me, though, when the Rams picked up and

659
00:27:09,056 --> 00:27:11,816
Speaker 4: moved back west to LA, the beat writers that covered

660
00:27:11,856 --> 00:27:13,776
Speaker 4: me weekend and week out a year in, a year

661
00:27:13,816 --> 00:27:17,376
Speaker 4: out annually, I would lose their voice and maybe they're

662
00:27:17,455 --> 00:27:19,975
Speaker 4: even their vote of consideration of going the argument for me.

663
00:27:20,056 --> 00:27:22,696
Speaker 4: So I have to argue for myself. I'm not really

664
00:27:22,735 --> 00:27:24,455
Speaker 4: good at that because I don't like to speak about

665
00:27:24,455 --> 00:27:26,735
Speaker 4: myself in third person or talk about the things I've done.

666
00:27:26,816 --> 00:27:28,576
Speaker 4: I feel like I left it all on the field,

667
00:27:28,616 --> 00:27:30,136
Speaker 4: and then I got to do is pick up a

668
00:27:30,176 --> 00:27:31,816
Speaker 4: tape and watch some old games.

669
00:27:32,336 --> 00:27:34,136
Speaker 3: I think you will see the passion that I play with.

670
00:27:34,536 --> 00:27:37,256
Speaker 8: You have the show called Legends, which people can watch

671
00:27:37,256 --> 00:27:40,216
Speaker 8: on YouTube, but you did one on Bo Jackson.

672
00:27:40,536 --> 00:27:43,056
Speaker 4: I'm reintroducing some of those older videos that I did

673
00:27:43,256 --> 00:27:46,656
Speaker 4: season one and redoing them giving them justice. So Bo

674
00:27:46,856 --> 00:27:49,535
Speaker 4: is one of those athletes we all know when we

675
00:27:49,536 --> 00:27:51,575
Speaker 4: were at that age. He was a true talent and

676
00:27:51,616 --> 00:27:54,696
Speaker 4: he his time and the sun was just too short.

677
00:27:55,016 --> 00:27:59,096
Speaker 4: But that being said, you know, I think that guys

678
00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:03,696
Speaker 4: like Darren Woodson, a safety for the Cowboys, someone like

679
00:28:03,816 --> 00:28:06,736
Speaker 4: you know, even like a war done a smaller running back,

680
00:28:06,816 --> 00:28:09,576
Speaker 4: had a great career. You wouldn't think someone his sides

681
00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:11,376
Speaker 4: would have the length of career that he had, but

682
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:13,696
Speaker 4: he had great impact on the field as well in

683
00:28:13,696 --> 00:28:14,216
Speaker 4: the community.

684
00:28:14,215 --> 00:28:14,776
Speaker 3: What he's doing.

685
00:28:14,816 --> 00:28:18,816
Speaker 4: Now you have the likes of Reggie White, I think

686
00:28:18,816 --> 00:28:20,975
Speaker 4: histories get lost their time, not only because he's no

687
00:28:21,296 --> 00:28:23,735
Speaker 4: longer with us, but we have such great defenders putting

688
00:28:23,856 --> 00:28:26,096
Speaker 4: up these crazy stats that we forget.

689
00:28:26,536 --> 00:28:27,816
Speaker 3: Some guys in the eighties.

690
00:28:27,536 --> 00:28:29,656
Speaker 4: And nineties and even before that was putting up just

691
00:28:29,656 --> 00:28:33,416
Speaker 4: as oppressive stats that wasn't always tallied like they are now.

692
00:28:33,776 --> 00:28:37,296
Speaker 4: So shining light and introducing to this again this generation

693
00:28:37,416 --> 00:28:40,136
Speaker 4: to let them know that it's not necessarily you have

694
00:28:40,216 --> 00:28:43,376
Speaker 4: to have the most social followers to be famous or

695
00:28:43,416 --> 00:28:46,776
Speaker 4: to be popular. Is actually you know, being committed to

696
00:28:46,816 --> 00:28:49,216
Speaker 4: the process and playing the game the right way and

697
00:28:49,256 --> 00:28:51,616
Speaker 4: inspiring the next generation football players who are.

698
00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:54,256
Speaker 7: Some of the legendary running backs that you grew up

699
00:28:54,336 --> 00:28:57,896
Speaker 7: watching that you kind of wanted to model your game

700
00:28:57,976 --> 00:29:00,416
Speaker 7: after and really looked up to when you started your career.

701
00:29:00,536 --> 00:29:01,336
Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.

702
00:29:01,816 --> 00:29:03,656
Speaker 4: I wore thirty four all the way up until I

703
00:29:03,696 --> 00:29:06,056
Speaker 4: got to the NFL, and that was large behold because

704
00:29:06,096 --> 00:29:10,096
Speaker 4: of Walter Payton. You pray that thirty four with Bo Jackson,

705
00:29:10,536 --> 00:29:12,536
Speaker 4: and then you go down the list. There were other

706
00:29:12,616 --> 00:29:15,216
Speaker 4: running backs I looked up dearly too. You have the

707
00:29:15,296 --> 00:29:17,656
Speaker 4: Ricky Williams, you have the Eddie Georgies of the world,

708
00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:21,336
Speaker 4: but also you have some smaller guys Marshall Fault, who

709
00:29:21,376 --> 00:29:23,936
Speaker 4: was a teammate of Mines, as well as going back

710
00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,976
Speaker 4: into early nineties, a guy named Terry Allen. He had

711
00:29:27,016 --> 00:29:30,496
Speaker 4: played for the Redskins, and he was an amazing gap runner.

712
00:29:30,776 --> 00:29:33,216
Speaker 4: I learned how to be patient and run counter and

713
00:29:33,256 --> 00:29:36,656
Speaker 4: power due to watching his film. So there's a number

714
00:29:36,656 --> 00:29:38,976
Speaker 4: of guys that I looked up to and followed their

715
00:29:38,976 --> 00:29:40,575
Speaker 4: career and took a little bit of their game and

716
00:29:40,616 --> 00:29:42,816
Speaker 4: added it to minds. It just so happened that I'm

717
00:29:42,816 --> 00:29:45,016
Speaker 4: a bigger packet than some of those guys I mentioned.

718
00:29:45,176 --> 00:29:47,376
Speaker 6: Steven, how did you end up at Oregon State?

719
00:29:47,856 --> 00:29:51,575
Speaker 4: My senior year was the year Chad and TJ and

720
00:29:51,616 --> 00:29:53,616
Speaker 4: those guys went to the Fiesta Bowl and would go

721
00:29:53,656 --> 00:29:55,736
Speaker 4: on to beat up on Notre Dame.

722
00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:58,736
Speaker 3: But the level of.

723
00:29:58,936 --> 00:30:01,696
Speaker 4: Groundwork and the foundation they were laying there in Corvallis

724
00:30:01,976 --> 00:30:03,736
Speaker 4: made me want to be a part of it. Coming

725
00:30:03,736 --> 00:30:07,056
Speaker 4: out of Las Vegas, Nevadas particular, in the early two thousands,

726
00:30:07,216 --> 00:30:09,856
Speaker 4: it wasn't an area that was recruited heavy and didn't

727
00:30:09,856 --> 00:30:11,656
Speaker 4: go to a private school. I went to a city

728
00:30:11,656 --> 00:30:15,896
Speaker 4: school here, and so the schools that wanted me to

729
00:30:15,936 --> 00:30:17,856
Speaker 4: play or was going to allow me to play running

730
00:30:17,856 --> 00:30:20,496
Speaker 4: back was largely on the west coast. You had some

731
00:30:20,496 --> 00:30:23,016
Speaker 4: of the bigger universities, like in Nebraska that wanted me

732
00:30:23,056 --> 00:30:25,936
Speaker 4: to be a middle linebacker. I didn't want that for

733
00:30:26,016 --> 00:30:28,856
Speaker 4: myself in my future, so I decided to stay west

734
00:30:28,856 --> 00:30:31,335
Speaker 4: of the Mississippi, and it just kind of bowled itself

735
00:30:31,376 --> 00:30:34,416
Speaker 4: down between Oregon State and you had a Colorado State

736
00:30:34,456 --> 00:30:36,896
Speaker 4: and Arizona State. Those three schools were big on me,

737
00:30:37,456 --> 00:30:39,776
Speaker 4: but eventually they will all weave themselves out, you know.

738
00:30:40,056 --> 00:30:42,536
Speaker 4: Coach Snyder, Bruce Snyder at the time for the Arizona

739
00:30:43,256 --> 00:30:46,896
Speaker 4: Arizona State, he was fired, you know, so there, you know,

740
00:30:47,056 --> 00:30:49,336
Speaker 4: so those kinds of processes of elimination began to play

741
00:30:49,336 --> 00:30:52,376
Speaker 4: itself out for me, and I wanted to be in

742
00:30:52,776 --> 00:30:55,056
Speaker 4: a big conference, which was to pack ten at the time,

743
00:30:55,296 --> 00:30:58,256
Speaker 4: and Oregon State and coach Dennis Erickson did a great

744
00:30:58,336 --> 00:31:01,136
Speaker 4: job of making me feel wanted and definitely lived up

745
00:31:01,176 --> 00:31:03,176
Speaker 4: to every every commitment they said they were going to

746
00:31:03,176 --> 00:31:05,016
Speaker 4: allow me to come in and compete as a freshman,

747
00:31:05,056 --> 00:31:06,776
Speaker 4: and I did it, played right away as.

748
00:31:06,656 --> 00:31:08,615
Speaker 3: The true and you know, the rest is history, as

749
00:31:08,616 --> 00:31:08,976
Speaker 3: they say.

750
00:31:09,136 --> 00:31:11,976
Speaker 7: So you also were drafted in the first round by

751
00:31:11,976 --> 00:31:14,376
Speaker 7: the Saint Louis Rams at the time, and you just

752
00:31:14,416 --> 00:31:16,816
Speaker 7: talked about it. One of your teammates is Marshall Fox,

753
00:31:16,856 --> 00:31:19,616
Speaker 7: who's obviously a legend in his own right.

754
00:31:19,856 --> 00:31:22,016
Speaker 5: How what type of impact did he have on your career?

755
00:31:22,256 --> 00:31:24,296
Speaker 3: Well, his impact for me was indirect.

756
00:31:24,376 --> 00:31:27,376
Speaker 4: You know at that time, some of the older veterans

757
00:31:27,416 --> 00:31:29,416
Speaker 4: wasn't They didn't feel like they had to hold your hand.

758
00:31:29,416 --> 00:31:31,456
Speaker 4: It wasn't their job to get you ready to take

759
00:31:31,496 --> 00:31:35,776
Speaker 4: their job. So what I appreciated about our relationship from

760
00:31:35,816 --> 00:31:39,736
Speaker 4: Marshall was it was one that if I asked a question,

761
00:31:39,776 --> 00:31:43,016
Speaker 4: he would answer it truthfully. He didn't treat me as

762
00:31:43,056 --> 00:31:45,216
Speaker 4: if I was a project. But he also treated me

763
00:31:45,256 --> 00:31:47,496
Speaker 4: like a man, which was really big for my master

764
00:31:47,616 --> 00:31:52,296
Speaker 4: ration and growth. Is because I knew. Marshall studied the offense.

765
00:31:52,336 --> 00:31:54,216
Speaker 4: He knew every aspect of the play of the game.

766
00:31:54,336 --> 00:31:56,136
Speaker 4: So he made me step on my game. If I

767
00:31:56,216 --> 00:31:58,056
Speaker 4: was going to try to compete for his job and

768
00:31:58,136 --> 00:32:00,376
Speaker 4: replace him, I needed to be able to do those

769
00:32:00,376 --> 00:32:03,016
Speaker 4: same things. Catch the ball out of the backfield, know

770
00:32:03,056 --> 00:32:05,616
Speaker 4: that route tree, being able to be able to ass

771
00:32:05,616 --> 00:32:08,016
Speaker 4: protect and not have to come out the fielding third down.

772
00:32:08,616 --> 00:32:11,575
Speaker 4: So as he went to film study and as he

773
00:32:11,616 --> 00:32:14,536
Speaker 4: did those things, I was dissecting him as he dissected

774
00:32:14,616 --> 00:32:17,456
Speaker 4: defense and the game preparation. It really helped me out.

775
00:32:17,496 --> 00:32:19,336
Speaker 4: It helped me stay around for a very long time

776
00:32:19,376 --> 00:32:22,216
Speaker 4: because of that. You know, your first, your rook your

777
00:32:22,256 --> 00:32:24,696
Speaker 4: rookie year coming in, you just think it's all about

778
00:32:24,696 --> 00:32:26,776
Speaker 4: the run game, But in the NFL it's a whole

779
00:32:26,776 --> 00:32:28,736
Speaker 4: different monster. You have to be able to pass pro

780
00:32:29,216 --> 00:32:31,416
Speaker 4: and prove to the coach that you're going to stay

781
00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:31,896
Speaker 4: on the field.

782
00:32:32,696 --> 00:32:35,776
Speaker 8: Did you feel like you had to at times assert

783
00:32:35,936 --> 00:32:38,016
Speaker 8: a tone as a running back at the beginning of

784
00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:40,496
Speaker 8: games and actually run through people so they knew what

785
00:32:40,496 --> 00:32:41,936
Speaker 8: they were going to be dealing with all game.

786
00:32:43,496 --> 00:32:45,856
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think you know to the point you just

787
00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:48,416
Speaker 4: made it's a tone setter. You you set you know,

788
00:32:48,456 --> 00:32:50,576
Speaker 4: you let them know this Sunday or whatever game day

789
00:32:50,576 --> 00:32:52,896
Speaker 4: it is, there's going to be a long four quarters

790
00:32:52,896 --> 00:32:55,456
Speaker 4: for them. It also gets the offense, It gets the

791
00:32:55,456 --> 00:32:58,456
Speaker 4: team fired up, you know you you know, so not

792
00:32:58,496 --> 00:33:00,616
Speaker 4: only are you setting the tone for the defense, but

793
00:33:00,656 --> 00:33:03,296
Speaker 4: you're getting your team on alert that say, hey, we're

794
00:33:03,336 --> 00:33:06,456
Speaker 4: playing now and we're playing for real. And lastly, that

795
00:33:06,536 --> 00:33:09,616
Speaker 4: game film goes around, you know, so for the next

796
00:33:09,776 --> 00:33:12,896
Speaker 4: three to four opponents, they're looking at that game field.

797
00:33:12,936 --> 00:33:13,976
Speaker 3: So be it the.

798
00:33:14,016 --> 00:33:16,256
Speaker 4: ROMs playing the forty nine ers or the Rams playing

799
00:33:16,256 --> 00:33:20,016
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. Whoever plays us that next month, they're

800
00:33:20,056 --> 00:33:21,936
Speaker 4: going to see that anticity that I play with and

801
00:33:21,976 --> 00:33:23,896
Speaker 4: they know that coming into that game, they're gonna have

802
00:33:23,896 --> 00:33:26,016
Speaker 4: their hands full. So not only did they put that

803
00:33:26,056 --> 00:33:28,536
Speaker 4: team on alert that day, but they put the whole

804
00:33:28,616 --> 00:33:29,376
Speaker 4: league on alert.

805
00:33:29,536 --> 00:33:31,815
Speaker 7: That is true because anytime we played them, whether it

806
00:33:31,856 --> 00:33:34,336
Speaker 7: was Coach Belichick or any coach that we had, they'd

807
00:33:34,376 --> 00:33:35,216
Speaker 7: always talk about you.

808
00:33:35,256 --> 00:33:36,576
Speaker 5: As this guy's a game record.

809
00:33:36,616 --> 00:33:38,416
Speaker 7: We got to wrap him up, we gotta get hats

810
00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:41,016
Speaker 7: on the ball, because they knew the physicality in which

811
00:33:41,016 --> 00:33:43,616
Speaker 7: you played with was different than a lot of the.

812
00:33:43,576 --> 00:33:44,776
Speaker 5: Opponents that we'd face.

813
00:33:45,776 --> 00:33:48,816
Speaker 7: That leads me to another question, because I think about

814
00:33:48,856 --> 00:33:51,856
Speaker 7: these last however five years or so, where there's kind

815
00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:54,456
Speaker 7: of devalued the running back position. They say, you know,

816
00:33:54,936 --> 00:33:57,576
Speaker 7: we're not going to pay them as much money there.

817
00:33:57,616 --> 00:33:59,216
Speaker 5: We can put anybody in there.

818
00:33:59,376 --> 00:34:01,136
Speaker 7: But then you look at a team like the Eagles

819
00:34:01,176 --> 00:34:03,056
Speaker 7: go out and get Sae Kwon Barkley and they go

820
00:34:03,096 --> 00:34:06,256
Speaker 7: and win the Super Bowl this last year, and a

821
00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:09,016
Speaker 7: big primary reason for that was Saquon. So can you

822
00:34:09,096 --> 00:34:12,176
Speaker 7: talk about your feelings about when you hear people and

823
00:34:12,736 --> 00:34:16,016
Speaker 7: express themselves in saying, well, the running back's not that important.

824
00:34:16,976 --> 00:34:18,136
Speaker 3: I love that you bring that up.

825
00:34:18,176 --> 00:34:20,576
Speaker 4: So I had another campaign over ten years ago called

826
00:34:20,616 --> 00:34:22,776
Speaker 4: save the running Back. It was toward the end of

827
00:34:22,776 --> 00:34:25,056
Speaker 4: my career, but I was with that Atlanta Falcons at

828
00:34:25,056 --> 00:34:27,416
Speaker 4: that time, and I've definitely saw what you're hitting on,

829
00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:30,336
Speaker 4: you know, the de value of the position. General managers

830
00:34:30,336 --> 00:34:32,136
Speaker 4: and head coaches feel like they could get anybody to

831
00:34:32,136 --> 00:34:34,656
Speaker 4: put in the backfield, and you know, whila, here goes

832
00:34:34,696 --> 00:34:37,616
Speaker 4: two or three yards in a cloud of dust. But

833
00:34:37,936 --> 00:34:40,496
Speaker 4: it's like anything you it's what you pay and what

834
00:34:40,536 --> 00:34:42,656
Speaker 4: you invest in and at what level you're going to

835
00:34:42,696 --> 00:34:43,376
Speaker 4: get that back.

836
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,296
Speaker 3: So as a team they look for insurance.

837
00:34:46,336 --> 00:34:48,296
Speaker 4: So are your insurance factor is making sure that the

838
00:34:48,336 --> 00:34:50,256
Speaker 4: god is carrying the ball or the difference maker on

839
00:34:50,296 --> 00:34:52,176
Speaker 4: the field feel that he's wanted and he's going to

840
00:34:52,176 --> 00:34:55,376
Speaker 4: be there for a long haul. So that security makes

841
00:34:55,416 --> 00:34:58,056
Speaker 4: that player rise to the occasion when you need him.

842
00:34:58,336 --> 00:35:00,976
Speaker 4: As well as the running back position, I'm not a

843
00:35:01,016 --> 00:35:03,496
Speaker 4: believer that anyone can do it. It's the shortest way

844
00:35:03,496 --> 00:35:05,136
Speaker 4: of position in the game. It's two and a half

845
00:35:05,216 --> 00:35:08,376
Speaker 4: year as a running back for those it's not special.

846
00:35:08,776 --> 00:35:11,096
Speaker 4: But if you make it four years, you're almost guaranteed

847
00:35:11,136 --> 00:35:14,016
Speaker 4: in making another four eight years. That's nearly a decade

848
00:35:14,016 --> 00:35:15,776
Speaker 4: that you could depend on. That God is going to

849
00:35:15,776 --> 00:35:17,816
Speaker 4: be a game a game wrecker, and it is going

850
00:35:17,856 --> 00:35:19,936
Speaker 4: to be someone that if you have a young quarterback

851
00:35:20,056 --> 00:35:22,696
Speaker 4: typically is their formula for winning a Super Bowl on

852
00:35:22,776 --> 00:35:25,576
Speaker 4: a cheaper salary. You got to lean on the run game,

853
00:35:26,016 --> 00:35:29,496
Speaker 4: and in late in the January and February games, you

854
00:35:29,536 --> 00:35:31,496
Speaker 4: need a run game again to keep the ball away

855
00:35:31,576 --> 00:35:35,056
Speaker 4: from maybe a dynamic offensive player maybe like a Mahomes

856
00:35:35,376 --> 00:35:37,976
Speaker 4: or as well as you know bad weather games like Foxborough,

857
00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:41,936
Speaker 4: so those kind of games and those players are special

858
00:35:41,976 --> 00:35:44,096
Speaker 4: in the moments, but you have to make sure that.

859
00:35:44,096 --> 00:35:45,856
Speaker 3: You have to write one and not just anybody.

860
00:35:46,296 --> 00:35:48,416
Speaker 8: Back in the day, it was you and Seawan Alexander

861
00:35:48,456 --> 00:35:50,936
Speaker 8: in fantasy like you were the two fantasy gods. You

862
00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:54,576
Speaker 8: had to get either you Sean Alexander if you wanted

863
00:35:54,576 --> 00:35:56,856
Speaker 8: to win the league. Now fantasy is a lot different

864
00:35:56,896 --> 00:35:59,496
Speaker 8: now though, But did you feel that from fantasy football

865
00:35:59,496 --> 00:36:02,256
Speaker 8: when you were playing, Oh for sure.

866
00:36:02,336 --> 00:36:04,456
Speaker 4: You know some of those lean years you hit on

867
00:36:04,536 --> 00:36:07,096
Speaker 4: in Saint Louis, there was a stretch of my career

868
00:36:07,256 --> 00:36:10,136
Speaker 4: where we went three and thirteen, two and fourteen, one

869
00:36:10,176 --> 00:36:13,136
Speaker 4: and fifteen, and that was six wins in three years.

870
00:36:13,336 --> 00:36:17,176
Speaker 4: So a lot of team wins was you know, kind

871
00:36:17,176 --> 00:36:19,496
Speaker 4: of thrown out the wind, though, So gassing up at

872
00:36:19,496 --> 00:36:22,856
Speaker 4: the gas station or a weekly calling for a radio call,

873
00:36:23,296 --> 00:36:25,016
Speaker 4: most people let you know, not only do they want

874
00:36:25,056 --> 00:36:27,016
Speaker 4: to get a win that was so rare at their time,

875
00:36:27,056 --> 00:36:28,976
Speaker 4: but we need you to get your stats so we

876
00:36:28,976 --> 00:36:30,376
Speaker 4: can win our fantasy football league.

877
00:36:30,376 --> 00:36:30,976
Speaker 3: So you're right.

878
00:36:31,056 --> 00:36:33,736
Speaker 4: So I was definitely aware of how how much people

879
00:36:33,856 --> 00:36:35,736
Speaker 4: valued me during that time.

880
00:36:51,096 --> 00:36:55,336
Speaker 7: You are the all time rushing leader for the Rams organization.

881
00:36:55,456 --> 00:36:58,936
Speaker 7: You surpassed Eric Dickerson when that happened. At the time,

882
00:36:59,056 --> 00:37:01,536
Speaker 7: did you understand the significance and leading up to that

883
00:37:01,656 --> 00:37:04,456
Speaker 7: moment in that game, did you understand where you were

884
00:37:04,496 --> 00:37:06,736
Speaker 7: in terms of yards and that it might happen this game?

885
00:37:07,096 --> 00:37:08,656
Speaker 7: Talk to us a little bit about that and what

886
00:37:08,696 --> 00:37:09,576
Speaker 7: that experience was like.

887
00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:13,376
Speaker 4: Sure, it happened in Tampa Bay. We were in Tampa Bay,

888
00:37:13,416 --> 00:37:15,936
Speaker 4: So I definitely recall when it happened. I'm going into

889
00:37:15,976 --> 00:37:17,896
Speaker 4: the game. I knew I was a good chance I

890
00:37:17,896 --> 00:37:21,936
Speaker 4: would break his record, and I'm someone that value history.

891
00:37:22,416 --> 00:37:26,416
Speaker 4: So when I would get ready for the season, or

892
00:37:26,576 --> 00:37:29,176
Speaker 4: you know, even getting ready for practice, I posted certain

893
00:37:29,216 --> 00:37:31,815
Speaker 4: stats up that I knew that I was within reach

894
00:37:31,896 --> 00:37:34,736
Speaker 4: or wanted to break. One of the goals was to

895
00:37:34,776 --> 00:37:36,696
Speaker 4: be the all time leading rushing for the Rams. Probably

896
00:37:36,736 --> 00:37:38,816
Speaker 4: should have let it set that gold a little higher,

897
00:37:39,616 --> 00:37:41,376
Speaker 4: and I said I wanted to lead the NFL in

898
00:37:41,456 --> 00:37:45,056
Speaker 4: rushing as well. But that said, I was very conciosative

899
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:47,176
Speaker 4: of what I was trying to do and what I

900
00:37:47,216 --> 00:37:47,856
Speaker 4: was approaching.

901
00:37:48,816 --> 00:37:49,696
Speaker 3: It meant a lot to me.

902
00:37:50,056 --> 00:37:52,816
Speaker 4: Ed still holds a single season rushing record, He's a

903
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:56,216
Speaker 4: two thousand yard record, and when most people think of Rams,

904
00:37:56,256 --> 00:37:59,216
Speaker 4: they still think of ed so he's a special player,

905
00:37:59,576 --> 00:38:03,056
Speaker 4: and rightfully so, he deserves that kind of respect, but

906
00:38:03,256 --> 00:38:05,536
Speaker 4: as someone to go on and break his record and

907
00:38:06,056 --> 00:38:09,176
Speaker 4: a franchise, it has such a rich lineage with running backs.

908
00:38:09,216 --> 00:38:11,936
Speaker 4: It means a lot to me saying that I'm number one,

909
00:38:12,016 --> 00:38:14,976
Speaker 4: I'm first on that list, but you know, it still goes.

910
00:38:15,096 --> 00:38:18,096
Speaker 4: Records are meant to be broken, giving that the game

911
00:38:18,256 --> 00:38:20,656
Speaker 4: is more passing now it may stand who knows for

912
00:38:20,696 --> 00:38:23,016
Speaker 4: how long, but it's something that I'm very proud of.

913
00:38:23,136 --> 00:38:26,816
Speaker 4: Unless you know that again, hitting on my respect for

914
00:38:26,896 --> 00:38:29,496
Speaker 4: the game and my respect for legends, it means a

915
00:38:29,496 --> 00:38:29,896
Speaker 4: lot to me.

916
00:38:30,296 --> 00:38:32,096
Speaker 6: Is there a current running back you see yourself in?

917
00:38:34,856 --> 00:38:38,856
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say necessary to see myself then, but I

918
00:38:38,856 --> 00:38:41,936
Speaker 4: I do enjoy watching, as you said, Sakwon Barkley, I

919
00:38:41,976 --> 00:38:46,016
Speaker 4: do enjoy watching Derrick Henry. I'm looking forward to seeing

920
00:38:46,096 --> 00:38:48,816
Speaker 4: some of these, this younger crop of guys at Bijon

921
00:38:49,376 --> 00:38:54,536
Speaker 4: Robinson down there in Atlanta. I enjoy Karen Williams. He's

922
00:38:54,536 --> 00:38:57,736
Speaker 4: a Saint Louis kid that's now in La rocking the horns.

923
00:38:57,976 --> 00:39:00,056
Speaker 4: So there's a number of guys that I watch. I

924
00:39:00,096 --> 00:39:03,976
Speaker 4: followed their careers. I wouldn't necessarily say that they, you know,

925
00:39:04,296 --> 00:39:06,816
Speaker 4: mimic or have my exact running style. I know I

926
00:39:06,896 --> 00:39:10,256
Speaker 4: was quite a unique runner, you know, being six too

927
00:39:10,296 --> 00:39:13,056
Speaker 4: and over two hundred and forty pounds, still having some

928
00:39:13,136 --> 00:39:16,576
Speaker 4: versatility and flexibility in my you know, my athleticism.

929
00:39:16,936 --> 00:39:18,536
Speaker 3: A lot of that can't be duplicated.

930
00:39:18,576 --> 00:39:21,376
Speaker 4: But I do enjoy watching these young guys take the

931
00:39:21,376 --> 00:39:22,416
Speaker 4: game to another level.

932
00:39:22,736 --> 00:39:25,496
Speaker 7: What's your relationship now with the Rams organization now that

933
00:39:25,536 --> 00:39:28,216
Speaker 7: they're in LA and have you met Sean McVeigh and

934
00:39:28,216 --> 00:39:29,456
Speaker 7: what what's that relationship?

935
00:39:29,536 --> 00:39:32,936
Speaker 4: Like, I do have a good relationship with the franchise.

936
00:39:32,976 --> 00:39:35,256
Speaker 4: They do a good job of keeping myself and some

937
00:39:35,296 --> 00:39:38,776
Speaker 4: of the other guys involved. I was there, I would say,

938
00:39:38,976 --> 00:39:41,936
Speaker 4: late winter, and I had a chance to talk to

939
00:39:42,496 --> 00:39:46,256
Speaker 4: the team and we talked about not only the passion

940
00:39:46,296 --> 00:39:49,536
Speaker 4: heading into the playoffs, but also Man of the Year award.

941
00:39:50,256 --> 00:39:55,096
Speaker 4: Those things that you know, differentiate differentiate those guys off

942
00:39:55,096 --> 00:39:58,176
Speaker 4: the field and on the field of saying, you know,

943
00:39:58,256 --> 00:40:01,696
Speaker 4: we're our community leaders. Then there's a younger generation that

944
00:40:01,736 --> 00:40:04,576
Speaker 4: looks up to us, so doing anything in the community.

945
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:07,096
Speaker 4: I was, you know, always say go out and do that.

946
00:40:07,216 --> 00:40:08,936
Speaker 4: You never know who lives you can touch and who

947
00:40:08,976 --> 00:40:12,296
Speaker 4: you inspire, but as well as take advantage of the moment,

948
00:40:12,376 --> 00:40:15,096
Speaker 4: because these moments are not guaranteed. I made the playoff

949
00:40:15,136 --> 00:40:17,216
Speaker 4: my rookie year and I made the playoffs my twelfth season.

950
00:40:17,936 --> 00:40:21,696
Speaker 4: Those years in between was just a void. So going

951
00:40:21,736 --> 00:40:23,736
Speaker 4: into it, I just wanted them to be realized the

952
00:40:23,736 --> 00:40:25,416
Speaker 4: moment that they're in and appreciate it.

953
00:40:26,496 --> 00:40:28,496
Speaker 6: What age did you get bigger than everybody else?

954
00:40:30,376 --> 00:40:34,176
Speaker 4: I was a late gloomer, I would say my junior

955
00:40:34,176 --> 00:40:38,256
Speaker 4: in high school, I was the smallest guy and the

956
00:40:38,256 --> 00:40:39,216
Speaker 4: shortest guy on the team.

957
00:40:39,336 --> 00:40:40,656
Speaker 3: Is why I played running back.

958
00:40:40,976 --> 00:40:43,296
Speaker 4: Start playing at Pop Warner at seven, but I didn't

959
00:40:43,296 --> 00:40:45,616
Speaker 4: get my growth sport till about sixteen, seventeen years old.

960
00:40:46,016 --> 00:40:48,896
Speaker 4: And it's oddly enough, I stopped playing basketball at the

961
00:40:48,936 --> 00:40:50,696
Speaker 4: same time. I was like, I'm never going to make

962
00:40:50,736 --> 00:40:53,816
Speaker 4: it in basketball. I'm just too short. Focus on football,

963
00:40:53,856 --> 00:40:56,016
Speaker 4: and then I just grew into there's a long, lenky

964
00:40:56,056 --> 00:40:58,456
Speaker 4: body and once I got to Corvallis kind of started

965
00:40:58,496 --> 00:40:59,416
Speaker 4: to fill out that frame.

966
00:41:00,216 --> 00:41:03,416
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting because you mentioned that the average

967
00:41:03,416 --> 00:41:05,816
Speaker 7: for running back is two and a half years. Played

968
00:41:05,816 --> 00:41:08,056
Speaker 7: twelve years in this league at a really high level

969
00:41:08,496 --> 00:41:11,216
Speaker 7: and My question to you is, with the demanding nature

970
00:41:11,376 --> 00:41:14,496
Speaker 7: of your position in general, how did you stay healthy

971
00:41:14,656 --> 00:41:16,976
Speaker 7: for that long duration of time.

972
00:41:18,656 --> 00:41:23,096
Speaker 4: I was very cognizant them and aware of my recovery.

973
00:41:23,216 --> 00:41:26,096
Speaker 4: I had a whole I had a whole routine down

974
00:41:26,176 --> 00:41:28,576
Speaker 4: in my basement. I had a recovery room where I

975
00:41:28,576 --> 00:41:32,856
Speaker 4: had an ice tub. I had a hyperbaric tint around

976
00:41:32,896 --> 00:41:36,016
Speaker 4: a mattress that I was sleep at in between the

977
00:41:36,096 --> 00:41:39,416
Speaker 4: game days. I was also very aware of what I

978
00:41:39,456 --> 00:41:41,816
Speaker 4: was putting in my body. I was no to little

979
00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:45,536
Speaker 4: gluten right, so that's all retention of inflammation. So I

980
00:41:45,696 --> 00:41:49,296
Speaker 4: was a guy that constantly was working and tweaking on myself,

981
00:41:49,616 --> 00:41:52,096
Speaker 4: even when I wasn't in the building at the practice

982
00:41:52,096 --> 00:41:54,616
Speaker 4: facility with the trainers. I was trying to make sure

983
00:41:54,656 --> 00:41:57,376
Speaker 4: that I was putting myself ahead of schedule, being able

984
00:41:57,416 --> 00:42:00,056
Speaker 4: to be ready for the next game. So I think

985
00:42:00,136 --> 00:42:02,216
Speaker 4: these younger guys that they're going to last, you know,

986
00:42:02,256 --> 00:42:04,976
Speaker 4: they got to treat themselves just as pressures that they

987
00:42:05,016 --> 00:42:07,576
Speaker 4: treat their sports cars. Make sure the fuel you're putting

988
00:42:07,616 --> 00:42:10,136
Speaker 4: yourself is worthwhile you're getting something from it. But also

989
00:42:10,176 --> 00:42:12,456
Speaker 4: you get in rest at night and you know you're

990
00:42:12,456 --> 00:42:14,936
Speaker 4: playing you're playing with a sense of passion that coaches

991
00:42:14,936 --> 00:42:17,336
Speaker 4: and general managers feel like they want to reward you

992
00:42:17,376 --> 00:42:18,096
Speaker 4: and keep you around.

993
00:42:18,616 --> 00:42:20,176
Speaker 8: It's got to be weird to play for a team,

994
00:42:20,216 --> 00:42:21,896
Speaker 8: put your whole career in a team that's in a city,

995
00:42:21,936 --> 00:42:25,456
Speaker 8: in the city changes because organization, like the bones are there,

996
00:42:25,496 --> 00:42:26,816
Speaker 8: but it's not that. It's like going back to your

997
00:42:26,816 --> 00:42:28,656
Speaker 8: hometown and your house is torn down, like it's still

998
00:42:28,656 --> 00:42:30,176
Speaker 8: your hometown, but it's not the same.

999
00:42:30,776 --> 00:42:33,616
Speaker 6: Like that's got to be weird a little, right, Yeah.

1000
00:42:33,656 --> 00:42:35,456
Speaker 4: I mean that was a really good analogy and that's

1001
00:42:35,456 --> 00:42:38,176
Speaker 4: how I feel, right, Yeah. So even you know, sometime

1002
00:42:38,256 --> 00:42:40,896
Speaker 4: I go back to Saint Louis for maybe a nonprofit

1003
00:42:40,896 --> 00:42:43,496
Speaker 4: event or something that's still going from my years there

1004
00:42:43,816 --> 00:42:46,815
Speaker 4: and having those relationship in tax still but you're right,

1005
00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:49,136
Speaker 4: it's just like going back to your hometown, which your

1006
00:42:49,176 --> 00:42:52,616
Speaker 4: home's not there. It's weird. It is truly a weird feeling.

1007
00:42:54,496 --> 00:42:54,736
Speaker 5: You know.

1008
00:42:55,056 --> 00:42:59,016
Speaker 4: Do I fit in in LA Maybe maybe not. Saint

1009
00:42:59,016 --> 00:43:05,296
Speaker 4: louis not quiet anymore. So I'm a journeyman. I'm a journeyman. Yeah.

1010
00:43:05,456 --> 00:43:07,856
Speaker 7: I always like to ask guys like yourself, do you

1011
00:43:07,936 --> 00:43:11,176
Speaker 7: have a moment or one of those the most memorable

1012
00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:15,336
Speaker 7: moments from your playing careers that you can describe to

1013
00:43:15,416 --> 00:43:17,816
Speaker 7: us that you remember and you're like, oh, this is awesome.

1014
00:43:19,976 --> 00:43:24,216
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a number, but I will say Seattle.

1015
00:43:24,256 --> 00:43:26,856
Speaker 4: Playing in Seattle one was a special to me. It

1016
00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:29,176
Speaker 4: was going back to the Pacific Northwest where I played

1017
00:43:29,176 --> 00:43:31,656
Speaker 4: my college ball at, so you know there was a

1018
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:33,576
Speaker 4: connection there. I wanted to put on always a good

1019
00:43:33,616 --> 00:43:37,815
Speaker 4: show for them, but also the rivalry the twelfth Man.

1020
00:43:37,856 --> 00:43:41,816
Speaker 4: It's always allowed stadium, And there was a particular run

1021
00:43:42,456 --> 00:43:45,736
Speaker 4: I think it was a draw, and made contact with

1022
00:43:45,776 --> 00:43:49,176
Speaker 4: the linebacker or a couple of guys at about the

1023
00:43:49,176 --> 00:43:52,976
Speaker 4: five or six yard line and just kept driving my legs,

1024
00:43:53,056 --> 00:43:54,616
Speaker 4: kept driving my legs, and then all of a sudden

1025
00:43:54,616 --> 00:43:57,536
Speaker 4: the pal start to move and lo and behold end

1026
00:43:57,576 --> 00:43:59,856
Speaker 4: up in the end zone. That help me ripped off

1027
00:43:59,856 --> 00:44:02,696
Speaker 4: from going crazy. But there was a big score, big

1028
00:44:02,736 --> 00:44:05,096
Speaker 4: momentum shift. But I think that's the fining moment of

1029
00:44:05,136 --> 00:44:08,576
Speaker 4: my Nothing really truly came easy. I had to fight

1030
00:44:08,616 --> 00:44:12,976
Speaker 4: for every yard, but at the same time I was

1031
00:44:13,056 --> 00:44:17,256
Speaker 4: that I was that spirit stick for the team and

1032
00:44:17,496 --> 00:44:20,816
Speaker 4: it was one of those those runs that always played

1033
00:44:20,856 --> 00:44:23,176
Speaker 4: back when I think of my playing days. And when

1034
00:44:23,216 --> 00:44:26,815
Speaker 4: I think about favorite places to play in Seattle, it's

1035
00:44:26,856 --> 00:44:28,376
Speaker 4: truly a run that sticks out to me.

1036
00:44:28,616 --> 00:44:30,456
Speaker 8: Let me give you one final question here, and I'm

1037
00:44:30,496 --> 00:44:32,576
Speaker 8: going to force you to put shine on yourself because

1038
00:44:32,576 --> 00:44:34,616
Speaker 8: I know you're not that type of guy to do so.

1039
00:44:34,616 --> 00:44:37,176
Speaker 8: So do you feel because I feel like you should

1040
00:44:37,176 --> 00:44:39,136
Speaker 8: get bonus points for putting up Hall of Fame numbers

1041
00:44:39,776 --> 00:44:43,536
Speaker 8: for with an organization that struggled to win games like

1042
00:44:43,736 --> 00:44:46,016
Speaker 8: you still did it even though the team at times

1043
00:44:46,456 --> 00:44:50,776
Speaker 8: wasn't doing it. I feel like your top twenty and rushing,

1044
00:44:50,816 --> 00:44:52,936
Speaker 8: I feel like that should be enough to get you in,

1045
00:44:53,016 --> 00:44:54,856
Speaker 8: don't you?

1046
00:44:54,856 --> 00:44:55,376
Speaker 3: You're kind?

1047
00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:58,496
Speaker 4: I believe that you know my resume speaks for yourself.

1048
00:44:58,536 --> 00:45:00,496
Speaker 4: And when you compare apples to apples, I'm up there

1049
00:45:00,496 --> 00:45:02,936
Speaker 4: with some of the best. How does that shake out

1050
00:45:02,976 --> 00:45:05,256
Speaker 4: with the voters? What are they looking for style points?

1051
00:45:05,416 --> 00:45:07,896
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I tell you I was a

1052
00:45:07,976 --> 00:45:12,976
Speaker 4: determined player. I believe one day I will be there.

1053
00:45:13,576 --> 00:45:16,696
Speaker 4: It's some matter of win. And I appreciate you saying

1054
00:45:16,816 --> 00:45:17,296
Speaker 4: that he's.

1055
00:45:17,216 --> 00:45:19,576
Speaker 8: So humble he won't even shine on himself, like I'm

1056
00:45:19,576 --> 00:45:20,456
Speaker 8: begging him to shine up.

1057
00:45:21,136 --> 00:45:23,696
Speaker 7: I was a beast, I got hit, he said, at

1058
00:45:23,696 --> 00:45:26,056
Speaker 7: first he made contact with one running back, I mean

1059
00:45:26,096 --> 00:45:28,136
Speaker 7: one linebacker, and then there was multiple and then I

1060
00:45:28,216 --> 00:45:30,056
Speaker 7: just basically put them on my back and ran into

1061
00:45:30,056 --> 00:45:30,296
Speaker 7: the end.

1062
00:45:30,336 --> 00:45:31,136
Speaker 5: Zee. Yeah.

1063
00:45:31,216 --> 00:45:33,335
Speaker 6: I just wish that people would go, the voters would

1064
00:45:33,336 --> 00:45:35,456
Speaker 6: go and just watch. We just watch old tape, right

1065
00:45:35,696 --> 00:45:37,336
Speaker 6: and it's everywhere now. I think the benefit now is

1066
00:45:37,336 --> 00:45:38,416
Speaker 6: you can go to TikTok.

1067
00:45:38,096 --> 00:45:39,536
Speaker 8: And just watch like I was watching a lot of

1068
00:45:39,536 --> 00:45:42,536
Speaker 8: your highlights on TikTok because it's so readily available. And

1069
00:45:42,576 --> 00:45:44,616
Speaker 8: I think if you can just get the voters exposed

1070
00:45:44,936 --> 00:45:46,536
Speaker 8: to some of the things that they may not have

1071
00:45:46,576 --> 00:45:50,376
Speaker 8: seen firsthand, but they're making decisions on people who they

1072
00:45:50,416 --> 00:45:52,336
Speaker 8: didn't get to see firsthand, I think it's all there,

1073
00:45:52,336 --> 00:45:53,896
Speaker 8: and so I would encourage people to go and and

1074
00:45:54,016 --> 00:45:56,456
Speaker 8: just watch his highlights and also check out legends.

1075
00:45:56,536 --> 00:45:57,776
Speaker 6: But you can get a couple of ways.

1076
00:45:57,936 --> 00:45:59,416
Speaker 8: You can go to YouTube or go to s J

1077
00:45:59,536 --> 00:46:01,336
Speaker 8: thirty nine dot com to find out more and find

1078
00:46:01,336 --> 00:46:04,016
Speaker 8: out more about Wes Stevens doing. Hey, big fans, was

1079
00:46:04,016 --> 00:46:05,616
Speaker 8: a big fan of you back in the day. I

1080
00:46:05,656 --> 00:46:07,496
Speaker 8: love what you're doing now. We really appreciate the time,

1081
00:46:07,616 --> 00:46:09,856
Speaker 8: and hey, good luck and and you know what you

1082
00:46:09,936 --> 00:46:11,256
Speaker 8: deserve that's all.

1083
00:46:11,296 --> 00:46:11,896
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say.

1084
00:46:11,896 --> 00:46:12,496
Speaker 3: You deserve it.

1085
00:46:12,576 --> 00:46:13,136
Speaker 6: You deserve it.

1086
00:46:14,496 --> 00:46:15,936
Speaker 3: Beg you guys, I appreciate it.

1087
00:46:30,696 --> 00:46:32,336
Speaker 6: All right, let's go over to kick off. Kevin, who's

1088
00:46:32,336 --> 00:46:33,696
Speaker 6: got a game for us? What do you have? Yeah?

1089
00:46:33,696 --> 00:46:35,216
Speaker 9: I want to see how many players you guys can

1090
00:46:35,296 --> 00:46:38,296
Speaker 9: name in the top ten all time NFL rushing leaders.

1091
00:46:38,576 --> 00:46:40,016
Speaker 2: Okay, and you can work together.

1092
00:46:40,176 --> 00:46:40,616
Speaker 5: I like it.

1093
00:46:40,616 --> 00:46:41,976
Speaker 6: I'll like being a team.

1094
00:46:42,016 --> 00:46:42,536
Speaker 2: And you're out.

1095
00:46:43,256 --> 00:46:45,816
Speaker 6: Okay, so top ten, top.

1096
00:46:45,656 --> 00:46:47,376
Speaker 2: Ten you can eliminate.

1097
00:46:48,496 --> 00:46:49,815
Speaker 6: You want to go first and me go first because

1098
00:46:49,816 --> 00:46:51,296
Speaker 6: I can. I can hit number one.

1099
00:46:51,776 --> 00:46:55,136
Speaker 8: Emmate Smith number one, yep, Emtt Smith number one.

1100
00:46:55,176 --> 00:46:57,696
Speaker 5: Ding ding, Adrian Peterson.

1101
00:46:59,336 --> 00:47:04,936
Speaker 6: Yep. Let's see he is number five, number five okay, Okay,

1102
00:47:05,416 --> 00:47:08,856
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier. Eric Dickerson correct.

1103
00:47:10,216 --> 00:47:13,296
Speaker 5: Number nine, by the way, number nine. How about Frank Gore.

1104
00:47:14,456 --> 00:47:17,696
Speaker 2: You guys are on a roll now, he's number three?

1105
00:47:18,136 --> 00:47:18,496
Speaker 3: Wow?

1106
00:47:18,696 --> 00:47:22,056
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, Yeah.

1107
00:47:21,816 --> 00:47:23,776
Speaker 6: That is time spent right there. He spent a lot

1108
00:47:23,816 --> 00:47:24,056
Speaker 6: of time.

1109
00:47:24,696 --> 00:47:26,896
Speaker 5: He played a long time in the league. Wow.

1110
00:47:26,936 --> 00:47:28,976
Speaker 6: Okay, so we have walk with him. We got em

1111
00:47:29,096 --> 00:47:30,376
Speaker 6: it at one, Gore at.

1112
00:47:30,136 --> 00:47:34,856
Speaker 9: Three, ye, Peterson at five okay, Eric Dickerson at nine.

1113
00:47:34,856 --> 00:47:35,296
Speaker 5: Got it.

1114
00:47:35,376 --> 00:47:41,976
Speaker 8: Okay, how about I mean two, it's got to be

1115
00:47:42,016 --> 00:47:42,736
Speaker 8: Walter Payton?

1116
00:47:43,056 --> 00:47:44,976
Speaker 2: Right, is that what you're going with.

1117
00:47:45,096 --> 00:47:46,816
Speaker 8: I'm gonna I'm not gonna say it's for sure too,

1118
00:47:46,816 --> 00:47:47,815
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna go Walter Payton.

1119
00:47:47,856 --> 00:47:48,536
Speaker 2: Okay, he's two.

1120
00:47:48,696 --> 00:47:52,816
Speaker 5: Okay, he is too. Okay, Hey, we're doing pretty good,

1121
00:47:53,616 --> 00:47:54,096
Speaker 5: pretty good?

1122
00:47:54,136 --> 00:47:55,056
Speaker 2: Maybe one striking here?

1123
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:55,616
Speaker 5: Pretty good?

1124
00:47:55,936 --> 00:47:58,336
Speaker 6: So we have four, six, seven and eight.

1125
00:47:58,376 --> 00:47:59,976
Speaker 2: We have four left, four, six, seven, eight?

1126
00:48:00,016 --> 00:48:01,056
Speaker 6: Ten?

1127
00:48:01,176 --> 00:48:05,616
Speaker 5: Dang, how about Fred Taylor? That a final? Yes?

1128
00:48:05,656 --> 00:48:05,816
Speaker 3: Here?

1129
00:48:06,896 --> 00:48:07,176
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1130
00:48:08,216 --> 00:48:08,496
Speaker 2: Wrong?

1131
00:48:10,576 --> 00:48:13,416
Speaker 5: Shoot? Where's he on the whole?

1132
00:48:13,656 --> 00:48:14,216
Speaker 2: One strike?

1133
00:48:15,216 --> 00:48:15,816
Speaker 5: Is he up there?

1134
00:48:15,856 --> 00:48:16,056
Speaker 3: Though?

1135
00:48:16,816 --> 00:48:17,496
Speaker 6: Not in the top ten?

1136
00:48:17,576 --> 00:48:18,496
Speaker 2: Not in top ten, not in.

1137
00:48:18,496 --> 00:48:20,856
Speaker 5: The top ten. We don't care about anything. It's not

1138
00:48:21,136 --> 00:48:22,016
Speaker 5: in the top ten.

1139
00:48:22,496 --> 00:48:33,056
Speaker 6: I'm going to go with TCU alum Ladanian Tomlinson.

1140
00:48:33,896 --> 00:48:36,656
Speaker 5: Correct, Oh nice, rab right there?

1141
00:48:36,776 --> 00:48:39,696
Speaker 6: Number seven went to tc right, yeah, okay.

1142
00:48:40,256 --> 00:48:43,336
Speaker 5: How about what do you think about Earl Campbell?

1143
00:48:44,296 --> 00:48:46,456
Speaker 6: Dude, I don't know, I.

1144
00:48:46,416 --> 00:48:49,536
Speaker 2: Don't didn't the sound very convincing there?

1145
00:48:50,656 --> 00:48:51,816
Speaker 5: I mean, so we.

1146
00:48:51,816 --> 00:48:52,816
Speaker 6: Got one, two and three.

1147
00:48:52,856 --> 00:48:55,696
Speaker 8: So who is between Gore and Peterson? Like, who are

1148
00:48:55,736 --> 00:48:58,856
Speaker 8: the most dynamic backs ever? Like if we go to

1149
00:48:58,896 --> 00:49:01,976
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers, there's nobody there because like the

1150
00:49:02,056 --> 00:49:04,656
Speaker 8: Roger Craigs, like when Rice was playing. Like, I don't

1151
00:49:04,656 --> 00:49:09,056
Speaker 8: think the right like the Rathman Roger. I don't think

1152
00:49:09,056 --> 00:49:12,416
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers would have one, No, because it's

1153
00:49:12,416 --> 00:49:13,136
Speaker 8: not any new ones.

1154
00:49:13,176 --> 00:49:16,136
Speaker 6: It's not like Christian McCaffrey. So okay, forty nine ers gone.

1155
00:49:16,176 --> 00:49:20,896
Speaker 7: I'm thinking of the time. Could could Derrick Henry already be?

1156
00:49:21,376 --> 00:49:22,856
Speaker 7: I mean he's played a long time.

1157
00:49:22,936 --> 00:49:25,696
Speaker 6: That's a good I was. I'm shocked at Gore's at three.

1158
00:49:26,096 --> 00:49:26,696
Speaker 2: I was too.

1159
00:49:26,816 --> 00:49:29,136
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's he played for like eighteen years.

1160
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,816
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixteen thousand yards.

1161
00:49:31,216 --> 00:49:32,856
Speaker 5: That's a bunch of yards.

1162
00:49:33,056 --> 00:49:36,696
Speaker 8: Like in La, Well, you have Ladaian Tomlinson and you

1163
00:49:36,696 --> 00:49:40,496
Speaker 8: have Eric Dicker Simmath that was also Saint Louis. I'm

1164
00:49:40,496 --> 00:49:42,656
Speaker 8: just trying to think of the Cowboys. You would only

1165
00:49:42,696 --> 00:49:47,336
Speaker 8: have Emmett that would possibly be on there, right, The

1166
00:49:47,416 --> 00:49:52,456
Speaker 8: Giants and the Jets, yeah, they I don't nothing.

1167
00:49:53,176 --> 00:49:56,376
Speaker 6: Well, he had Tiki Barber, I mean nothing, top ten.

1168
00:49:56,696 --> 00:49:58,336
Speaker 6: There's no way Tiki Barber's top ten.

1169
00:49:59,176 --> 00:50:03,856
Speaker 5: I don't think so. Like the other power not the Patriots, Miami.

1170
00:50:05,616 --> 00:50:09,616
Speaker 8: I'm thinking best running backs from these teams ever, the Houston,

1171
00:50:10,216 --> 00:50:11,016
Speaker 8: I don't know we can.

1172
00:50:10,896 --> 00:50:14,496
Speaker 2: Get I mean he has a role to start, he

1173
00:50:14,736 --> 00:50:15,696
Speaker 2: gets hard, I know.

1174
00:50:16,816 --> 00:50:19,176
Speaker 5: I mean who the pool is shrinking?

1175
00:50:19,456 --> 00:50:25,936
Speaker 8: There is a no no hints, no no hints. Saints Buccaneers,

1176
00:50:25,936 --> 00:50:32,456
Speaker 8: herschel Walker, I mean, I don't know that that's a no.

1177
00:50:32,536 --> 00:50:37,616
Speaker 7: But Earl Campbell, herschel Walker or two guys that are

1178
00:50:37,696 --> 00:50:38,656
Speaker 7: legendary backs.

1179
00:50:38,856 --> 00:50:40,536
Speaker 5: But I don't know if they're up there in that.

1180
00:50:41,456 --> 00:50:43,296
Speaker 5: I mean sixteen thousand yards for Frank r.

1181
00:50:43,656 --> 00:50:45,816
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a dot too.

1182
00:50:45,976 --> 00:50:47,376
Speaker 6: I don't know who form.

1183
00:50:47,456 --> 00:50:51,216
Speaker 5: Oh what about Corey Dillon? No, I don't know. He

1184
00:50:51,296 --> 00:50:52,216
Speaker 5: played for a long time.

1185
00:50:52,496 --> 00:50:56,056
Speaker 8: No way, I mean you get I could for sure

1186
00:50:56,136 --> 00:50:58,976
Speaker 8: be wrong. I'm gonna go no way on Corey Dyllon.

1187
00:50:59,016 --> 00:51:00,776
Speaker 8: But you can take guess more team and you have

1188
00:51:00,776 --> 00:51:05,416
Speaker 8: the only strikers with you have the only striker.

1189
00:51:04,336 --> 00:51:06,256
Speaker 5: Well, and you go ahead and pick one. I'm throwing

1190
00:51:06,256 --> 00:51:08,696
Speaker 5: out three dang names, but I don't know that, right.

1191
00:51:09,496 --> 00:51:10,696
Speaker 5: Who are we missing that?

1192
00:51:10,856 --> 00:51:13,176
Speaker 6: Okay, most legendary running backs of all time?

1193
00:51:13,656 --> 00:51:13,896
Speaker 3: One?

1194
00:51:15,176 --> 00:51:19,856
Speaker 8: We know Amo Speth is one, but like ever, Barry Sanders,

1195
00:51:20,296 --> 00:51:21,216
Speaker 8: I don't know that he is.

1196
00:51:22,656 --> 00:51:23,776
Speaker 5: All right, let's go Barry.

1197
00:51:24,296 --> 00:51:24,856
Speaker 3: Where you go?

1198
00:51:24,936 --> 00:51:28,176
Speaker 8: Barry Sanders, it's your pick, and I want to you.

1199
00:51:28,176 --> 00:51:29,136
Speaker 2: Guys are a team here.

1200
00:51:30,056 --> 00:51:31,656
Speaker 6: But he's got the only strike, you know what I mean?

1201
00:51:32,336 --> 00:51:35,816
Speaker 6: All right, Barry, No, Barry, what do you got?

1202
00:51:36,016 --> 00:51:39,816
Speaker 2: All right, let's go Barry Sanders number four? Barry Sanders?

1203
00:51:39,976 --> 00:51:42,096
Speaker 5: Was he number four? That's remarkable?

1204
00:51:42,256 --> 00:51:42,776
Speaker 6: Let's go.

1205
00:51:43,576 --> 00:51:47,296
Speaker 8: Okay, So we have one, two, three, four, five, we

1206
00:51:47,376 --> 00:51:49,336
Speaker 8: have three left?

1207
00:51:49,976 --> 00:51:50,256
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1208
00:51:50,296 --> 00:51:50,736
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1209
00:51:50,816 --> 00:51:51,096
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1210
00:51:51,136 --> 00:51:52,016
Speaker 2: Six, eight and ten?

1211
00:51:52,896 --> 00:51:55,696
Speaker 6: Who we are any of them? Like, we're probably not

1212
00:51:55,696 --> 00:51:56,696
Speaker 6: going to get in a millionaires?

1213
00:52:00,376 --> 00:52:02,376
Speaker 2: Maybe one's a pretty big surprise.

1214
00:52:03,696 --> 00:52:04,856
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield.

1215
00:52:06,296 --> 00:52:09,976
Speaker 7: What's his name for that played for the Jets and

1216
00:52:10,016 --> 00:52:10,576
Speaker 7: somebody else.

1217
00:52:10,816 --> 00:52:12,456
Speaker 5: Curtis, Curtis Martin, Martin.

1218
00:52:12,576 --> 00:52:15,096
Speaker 6: That's a good guess. That's a good guess.

1219
00:52:15,096 --> 00:52:17,216
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Curtis Martin. It's my pick, it's

1220
00:52:17,256 --> 00:52:19,616
Speaker 5: your pick. I think Curtis Martin might be on there.

1221
00:52:19,656 --> 00:52:21,576
Speaker 8: That's a good I would have never got to him.

1222
00:52:21,616 --> 00:52:23,456
Speaker 8: I would have listened one hundred running backs and never guessed.

1223
00:52:24,456 --> 00:52:26,056
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let you. I want to save that one

1224
00:52:26,056 --> 00:52:26,336
Speaker 8: for you.

1225
00:52:26,336 --> 00:52:26,576
Speaker 3: You can.

1226
00:52:29,016 --> 00:52:29,736
Speaker 2: Don't give it up.

1227
00:52:29,776 --> 00:52:32,736
Speaker 6: Don't give it up. Okay, what about.

1228
00:52:34,176 --> 00:52:35,576
Speaker 5: Churs Martin played for a long time.

1229
00:52:35,896 --> 00:52:37,815
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that could be a pretty good guess.

1230
00:52:37,816 --> 00:52:40,176
Speaker 6: It's you know what you took. I don't know what

1231
00:52:40,256 --> 00:52:41,136
Speaker 6: about the bus?

1232
00:52:41,576 --> 00:52:42,815
Speaker 5: I know I thought about that too.

1233
00:52:42,936 --> 00:52:49,336
Speaker 7: Jerome Bennis Bettis, Yeah, isn't like egging each other on?

1234
00:52:51,256 --> 00:52:53,496
Speaker 6: Okay, it's my pick, it is your pick.

1235
00:52:55,216 --> 00:52:59,856
Speaker 2: Jerome Bettis, number eight, Dern Bettis, let's.

1236
00:52:59,576 --> 00:53:01,296
Speaker 6: Go okay, we have two left?

1237
00:53:03,896 --> 00:53:04,176
Speaker 5: Three?

1238
00:53:04,616 --> 00:53:07,416
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you did it. Yeah, so your picks are

1239
00:53:07,536 --> 00:53:07,856
Speaker 6: all right.

1240
00:53:07,856 --> 00:53:09,256
Speaker 5: I'm going with Curtis Martin.

1241
00:53:10,696 --> 00:53:12,616
Speaker 2: Number six, Curtis Martin.

1242
00:53:13,576 --> 00:53:15,056
Speaker 6: Nice, I would have never got that.

1243
00:53:16,576 --> 00:53:19,656
Speaker 9: I appreciate the very first Yeersey ever had Patriots Curtis Martin.

1244
00:53:19,816 --> 00:53:21,656
Speaker 5: Let's go see. I knew he was.

1245
00:53:21,976 --> 00:53:24,176
Speaker 6: So we have one left? And what number is he?

1246
00:53:24,496 --> 00:53:24,696
Speaker 3: Ten?

1247
00:53:25,216 --> 00:53:27,576
Speaker 2: He's number ten, last guy in the list?

1248
00:53:28,696 --> 00:53:30,216
Speaker 6: How many strikes we have one?

1249
00:53:30,336 --> 00:53:31,096
Speaker 5: We only have one?

1250
00:53:31,336 --> 00:53:33,416
Speaker 8: Okay, So if we were to talk out running back,

1251
00:53:33,376 --> 00:53:35,176
Speaker 8: because you got to Curtis Martin. Now, I haven't passed

1252
00:53:35,216 --> 00:53:36,616
Speaker 8: over the Jets Earlier I was like, what can't be

1253
00:53:36,616 --> 00:53:37,536
Speaker 8: a Jet because they suck?

1254
00:53:37,856 --> 00:53:39,536
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

1255
00:53:41,176 --> 00:53:44,856
Speaker 5: Played for multiple years? What years? Derrick Henry in? Can

1256
00:53:44,896 --> 00:53:46,376
Speaker 5: we at least get asking?

1257
00:53:47,256 --> 00:53:50,016
Speaker 8: And it could be Derrick Henry it could be is

1258
00:53:50,056 --> 00:53:53,016
Speaker 8: any Still I don't like hants because I think that

1259
00:53:53,096 --> 00:53:54,496
Speaker 8: We're not gonna ask for any hint until we get

1260
00:53:54,496 --> 00:53:55,096
Speaker 8: three strikes.

1261
00:53:55,296 --> 00:53:57,976
Speaker 6: Okay, is my pick or his yours?

1262
00:53:58,016 --> 00:53:58,815
Speaker 2: Because he just had Curtis.

1263
00:53:58,936 --> 00:54:02,136
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll take one for the team. Derrick Henry strike

1264
00:54:02,256 --> 00:54:02,696
Speaker 6: number two.

1265
00:54:05,536 --> 00:54:07,776
Speaker 5: I think Earl Campbell played for a really long time.

1266
00:54:09,856 --> 00:54:12,576
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, listen, you're married to Earl Campbell. You've

1267
00:54:12,576 --> 00:54:13,856
Speaker 8: said it eight times.

1268
00:54:13,576 --> 00:54:17,376
Speaker 7: I have, and I'm just thinking thinking about him. I

1269
00:54:17,416 --> 00:54:22,096
Speaker 7: don't know herschel Walker. I said those two multiple times.

1270
00:54:22,176 --> 00:54:23,736
Speaker 7: Those are I'm trying to think of.

1271
00:54:25,216 --> 00:54:25,696
Speaker 5: Another.

1272
00:54:27,056 --> 00:54:30,576
Speaker 6: Okay, what about what.

1273
00:54:31,856 --> 00:54:32,776
Speaker 5: Tony dor Set?

1274
00:54:32,856 --> 00:54:37,176
Speaker 7: Who was Seattle, Sean Alexander, Sean Alexander? He could be

1275
00:54:37,256 --> 00:54:37,576
Speaker 7: up there.

1276
00:54:39,096 --> 00:54:40,896
Speaker 8: So okay, let's let's wait out who we think it

1277
00:54:40,896 --> 00:54:42,576
Speaker 8: could out of, and you just tell us if it's

1278
00:54:42,616 --> 00:54:43,216
Speaker 8: one of these people.

1279
00:54:43,936 --> 00:54:45,216
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna listen for you.

1280
00:54:45,256 --> 00:54:46,856
Speaker 5: Okay, he wants to.

1281
00:54:47,136 --> 00:54:48,336
Speaker 6: He's got a bone of Earl Campbell.

1282
00:54:48,576 --> 00:54:53,656
Speaker 8: So Earl Campbell, Sean Alexander, herschel Walker, Tony dor Set,

1283
00:54:53,736 --> 00:54:54,496
Speaker 8: Are there any others?

1284
00:54:54,696 --> 00:54:56,816
Speaker 6: And did we say Derrick Henry?

1285
00:54:57,016 --> 00:54:57,656
Speaker 2: You just guessed him?

1286
00:54:57,656 --> 00:54:59,336
Speaker 6: Okay, I missed him. Okay, those four? Is it one

1287
00:54:59,336 --> 00:54:59,736
Speaker 6: of those four?

1288
00:54:59,816 --> 00:55:04,256
Speaker 2: It is one of those four Okay.

1289
00:55:03,496 --> 00:55:04,936
Speaker 6: I don't think it's Sean Alexander.

1290
00:55:05,496 --> 00:55:05,776
Speaker 5: Don't.

1291
00:55:05,856 --> 00:55:06,256
Speaker 3: I don't.

1292
00:55:07,776 --> 00:55:08,136
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1293
00:55:08,176 --> 00:55:09,976
Speaker 8: I did bring him up in the Steven Jackson interview,

1294
00:55:10,056 --> 00:55:14,736
Speaker 8: so maybe that was a signed But I okay, let's

1295
00:55:14,776 --> 00:55:16,776
Speaker 8: eliminate somebody. I don't think it's Earl Campbell. I think

1296
00:55:16,776 --> 00:55:18,936
Speaker 8: it's too old. I don't think they even measured in

1297
00:55:18,976 --> 00:55:19,336
Speaker 8: yards back.

1298
00:55:19,496 --> 00:55:23,216
Speaker 7: I think it's Sean Alexander. Who you do I do?

1299
00:55:23,536 --> 00:55:28,016
Speaker 7: I have a feeling I could be completely wrong. Well,

1300
00:55:28,056 --> 00:55:29,856
Speaker 7: there's only four on here. Say well, you won't be

1301
00:55:29,896 --> 00:55:32,496
Speaker 7: completely completely wrong. Yeah, we have a twenty five percent chance.

1302
00:55:32,816 --> 00:55:36,736
Speaker 7: I think it's probably one of one of the cowboys.

1303
00:55:36,816 --> 00:55:39,056
Speaker 7: That's I'm only doing fifty percent. Like I've cut my losses.

1304
00:55:39,696 --> 00:55:42,856
Speaker 8: I think it's either herschel Walker or Tony dor Set.

1305
00:55:43,416 --> 00:55:48,576
Speaker 7: I'm going to Seawan Alexander. Okay, you're a pick Seawan Alexander.

1306
00:55:50,216 --> 00:55:52,335
Speaker 2: Matt He's not even in the top twenty five.

1307
00:55:53,856 --> 00:55:54,176
Speaker 5: Darn it?

1308
00:55:54,296 --> 00:55:57,416
Speaker 6: Hey is it Sean? Is it his boy? His other

1309
00:55:57,816 --> 00:55:58,776
Speaker 6: his oiler Earl?

1310
00:55:59,216 --> 00:56:00,416
Speaker 2: It is not early either.

1311
00:56:00,456 --> 00:56:03,656
Speaker 5: Oh, Tony door Set or hershel Walker. Oh, hershel Walker.

1312
00:56:03,696 --> 00:56:04,776
Speaker 6: I'm wanna go Tony dor Set.

1313
00:56:04,896 --> 00:56:05,815
Speaker 2: It's Tony door Set.

1314
00:56:06,456 --> 00:56:07,016
Speaker 6: We didn't win.

1315
00:56:07,896 --> 00:56:09,016
Speaker 2: You guy, are so close?

1316
00:56:09,416 --> 00:56:10,256
Speaker 5: That was hard.

1317
00:56:10,456 --> 00:56:11,896
Speaker 6: You really wanted Earl Campbell?

1318
00:56:12,096 --> 00:56:15,216
Speaker 9: I sure did. Where is Earl Campbell? I just have

1319
00:56:15,296 --> 00:56:17,576
Speaker 9: the top twenty five here. He's not in the He's

1320
00:56:17,616 --> 00:56:18,216
Speaker 9: not even in that.

1321
00:56:19,536 --> 00:56:21,896
Speaker 7: I mean I met him one time at the Cowboys

1322
00:56:21,896 --> 00:56:24,376
Speaker 7: facility and I'm telling you, dude, his hands were so

1323
00:56:25,616 --> 00:56:28,096
Speaker 7: mangled from just all of his days Ryan and stuff

1324
00:56:28,136 --> 00:56:28,416
Speaker 7: like that.

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Speaker 5: He was a beast though.

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Speaker 9: Derrick Henry is nineteen, by the way, at number nineteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: right behind Stephen Jackson. Yeah, and Fred Taylor.

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Speaker 6: How far is he back behind Stephen Jackson?

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Speaker 2: He is, oh, fifteen yards?

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Speaker 5: Oh one quarter?

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Speaker 9: What about behind Fred Taylor? Yeah too, he's next two

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Speaker 9: hundred and forty.

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Speaker 6: Who do you think he can break this year? Where

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Speaker 6: does he end up this year? If he rushed us

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Speaker 6: for nine hundred.

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Speaker 9: Yards three nine hundred, he'll just break Thurman Thomas we

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Speaker 9: were behind? We think of no, actually, Franklin, he'll be

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Speaker 9: right with Marcus Allen at fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Oh cool?

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Speaker 8: Wow, Yeah, I didn' think of them. With Thomas Therma.

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Speaker 8: Thomas played with who in college?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Did he go to Oklahoma State?

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Speaker 6: Yes, he sure did. Who do you play with in college,

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Speaker 6: Gray Sanders.

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Speaker 7: They played together. That's amazing. That's a great trivia question.

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Speaker 7: I had no idea.

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Speaker 6: That's a pretty cool backfield.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd say what.

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Speaker 2: Year was that?

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Speaker 6: That was before me?

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00:57:29,456 --> 00:57:31,296
Speaker 5: Like, I just know that was before me for sure.

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Speaker 6: I just I just know that from.

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Speaker 5: That's that's an incredible though. Thomas was eighty eight.

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Speaker 9: Thomas eighty eight and then eighty six and eighty seven

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Speaker 9: Pro Football Hall of.

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Speaker 8: Fame running backs were teammates at Oklahoma State University. Barry

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Speaker 8: Sanders and Therma Thomas. They were arguably the best backfield

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Speaker 8: in college football history. After Therma Thomas graduated, Sanders had

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Speaker 8: a famous Heisman Trophy season at a issue.

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Speaker 6: But they were there together.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of college.

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Speaker 8: You on the road this weekend, on the road, this weekend,

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Speaker 8: boys going to Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Going to Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Get to see they just named the young stud Bryce

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Speaker 7: Underwood the starter. So he's going to be a true freshman.

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Speaker 7: I think only the fourth time in Michigan history or

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Speaker 7: something like that. So I'm excited to see him. Now

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Speaker 7: they're playing New Mexico. New Mexico is going to have

1373
00:58:22,616 --> 00:58:25,496
Speaker 7: to pull few, you know, rabbits out of their hat.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, it'll be a great environment.

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Speaker 7: I mean that that place, the Big House is exceptional.

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Speaker 7: Big Ten network NBC W No, NBC Wait what Yeah

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Speaker 7: it's on NBC.

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Speaker 3: I thought we.

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00:58:38,656 --> 00:58:42,016
Speaker 5: Cover the Big Ten for NBC network.

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00:58:42,136 --> 00:58:43,936
Speaker 6: No, big you're on the actual network.

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00:58:44,016 --> 00:58:45,976
Speaker 5: Yeah, on the actual network with NBC.

1382
00:58:46,936 --> 00:58:48,096
Speaker 6: I'm working with the network guy.

1383
00:58:48,256 --> 00:58:50,936
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is awesome, network guy.

1384
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Speaker 6: The third season with NBC, that's awesome.

1385
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be fun.

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Speaker 8: I will be And this is the stupid thing that's

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Speaker 8: happened here, and I'll end on this. My fantasy football

1388
00:59:00,496 --> 00:59:04,736
Speaker 8: league is having their draft this weekend. They're doing it Saturday,

1389
00:59:05,816 --> 00:59:08,176
Speaker 8: first of all, on week one of college football.

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Speaker 6: And I get it.

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Speaker 8: It's the NFL and these guys are big NFL guys,

1392
00:59:11,176 --> 00:59:13,336
Speaker 8: not so much college guys. But they're doing Saturday at

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00:59:13,336 --> 00:59:15,336
Speaker 8: three o'clock. You know what happened Saturday at three o'clock

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Speaker 8: Arkansas places. Oh no, So I'm not going to the draft.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna you're not gonna have like just put it

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Speaker 5: on and then just draft draft.

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Speaker 6: From my phone as I watched the game at home.

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Speaker 5: So you're definitely not going.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not going that is why would you even

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Speaker 8: do it on Saturday week one of college football.

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Speaker 2: That's worse than a wedding.

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Speaker 8: By the way, I gotta, I gotta let's I gotta

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Speaker 8: find out where MBC is. I thought he was on

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00:59:36,176 --> 00:59:39,736
Speaker 8: Big Ten Network because to be fair, we didn't work

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00:59:39,776 --> 00:59:42,096
Speaker 8: together while you were doing television last year. We came

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00:59:42,096 --> 00:59:43,856
Speaker 8: in at the end and you were like, I worked

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Speaker 8: for the Big Ten.

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Speaker 5: No, I covered the Big Ten.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you said. No, I don't know

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Speaker 6: about that. But anyway, he's.

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Speaker 8: NBC boys big let's go big timer, like NBC dot

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Speaker 8: Com like nb network.

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Speaker 7: Wow, you're gonna turn on NBC for pregame and you're

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Speaker 7: gonna see the old cast dog up there.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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01:00:05,536 --> 01:00:08,296
Speaker 5: Be like, I know him. That's wild.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 8: Thanks to Stephen Jackson, kickoff Kevin executive producer Brandon Ray

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Speaker 8: running all the video.

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Speaker 6: That's Matt Castle who.

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Speaker 8: By the way, there was a documentary crew in on

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Speaker 8: the Matt Castle documentary.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll tell you your glowing remarks really filled my

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01:00:23,216 --> 01:00:25,336
Speaker 7: heart up today. I'm gonna get a copy of that.

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01:00:25,376 --> 01:00:27,656
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna play it over before I go to bed.

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Speaker 5: How do you see this?

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 6: I'm Bobby Bones. We'll see you guys next week. We've

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Speaker 6: had lots to say, if I have, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Lots to say With Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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