WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: How Many Wins?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in fris Joe Say now, your hosts, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Danny Serek and Kyle Yeomans. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Talking Cowboys here on this Tuesday morning. Glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're with us from our respective SWBC Mortgage studios. Kyle Yeomans,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and the Great Isaiah stand

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<v Speaker 1>back our residence super Bowl champions. We bring you the

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<v Speaker 1>recent storylines and talk through this Dallas Cowboys offseason. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a big smile on your face. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a good Mother's Day weekend? Why are you laughing? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know that now? Is that it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a laugh? Is that what you're going with here? Coyle Man, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ready for the before and after a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of a child star, but that's what you look like

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<v Speaker 1>right now, a child star. You look like McCulloch Culkin

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<v Speaker 1>after the Fame, post post home, Malone mccullar, Oh God, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle I'm good with it, man, I okay, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been like eight weeks of quarantine. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>like a mullet working back here like it's business and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like you just can't. I gotta do something myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, Kyle, Kyle, I'm actually disappointment. I thought you's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come to the dark side with drizz man, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like to I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>could even I don't think it was long enough first off,

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<v Speaker 1>to even try that, And second off, I probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten maybe one of those sit down talks from

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<v Speaker 1>either my bosses or my family saying you gotta look

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<v Speaker 1>at your life here. Yeah, you gotta have the intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's fair. Now, Isaiah, you called me Forrest

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<v Speaker 1>Gump off the air, and I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Bieber or Forrest Gump better. I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 1>looked like you was ready to run somewhere, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm just going on what I see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm he just happens to be actually right, yeah, exact

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<v Speaker 1>more aerodynamic. Tell everybody that's what it is. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. I'm trying to get it all slim down

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<v Speaker 1>so that tomorrow's half marathon for Ceedee Lamb is much

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<v Speaker 1>more enjoyable. I guess if a half mile I can

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<v Speaker 1>be enjoyable. Now tell him why you are doing the

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<v Speaker 1>half mile? You don't just know, don't just yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>glaze over that bro you lost. So basically, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much what it was. It was a tweet for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who haven't seen it on Twitter, well

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<v Speaker 1>before the draft. About a month before the draft, I

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted or somebody asked me a question and was asking

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<v Speaker 1>if it's possible that Ceedee Lamb falls with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Ceedee Lamb, and the fact that he even

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<v Speaker 1>fell down that far was so far fetched to me

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<v Speaker 1>that I said, if he does fall to seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys select him, I'll run to the Star and

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<v Speaker 1>back from my apartment in a little elm. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing tomorrow, which just so happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>about thirteen point four miles. So I'm getting started right

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<v Speaker 1>around ten o'clock and I'm gonna head head down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually downhill there, but it's uphill back, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the worst case scenario. So it'll be interesting. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a runner, so that's what makes this thing tough for

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<v Speaker 1>all thee runners out there. I respect you more than

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<v Speaker 1>ever now that I'm having to try and do this

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<v Speaker 1>and not hurt myself is pretty much the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gona do like I do my wife Beuh every

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<v Speaker 1>year she runs in the New York City Marathon. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take I'm gonna take mental rips with you the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time. Nice. I like that, the quality mental reps,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thank you. And David Hellman said the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing yesterday. He quote tweeted my What I said was, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it on Wednesday, and he quote tweeted it

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I'm here for this. And so I said,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you running it with me? And he just said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not running with you. He's like, no, you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not running it with you at all. But enough

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<v Speaker 1>about the haircut and a half marathon for betting or

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<v Speaker 1>losing a bet against myself. Some recent storylines around the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys over the past week. Of course, the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>was released on Thursday, and the Cowboys open up against

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Rams. They'll open up that beautiful billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars Stadium and Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles as they

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<v Speaker 1>take on the Rams Thanksgiving, it's the Washington Redskins, which

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be familiar territory ten times. It's the tenth

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<v Speaker 1>time that those two teams will meet on that holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've kind of looked through the schedule. Everybody's done

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<v Speaker 1>their predictions win loss, win loss, all the way through,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of the go to when you see

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<v Speaker 1>a schedule. But I want to take a different angle

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<v Speaker 1>at the schedule release and kind of look deeper into

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<v Speaker 1>what it could bring once we get past Thanksgiving and

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<v Speaker 1>get into the meat of that playoff hunt run. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like over the last couple of years it

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<v Speaker 1>has come down to a game either in Philly or

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<v Speaker 1>New York, it doesn't matter. It comes down to a

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<v Speaker 1>big time game later on. So let's look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFC stretch. Now I mentioned after Thanksgiving. So

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<v Speaker 1>they play Washington week twelve Thanksgiving, and then you turn around,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Baltimore a Thursday after that on the

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<v Speaker 1>road Thursday Night Football against Lamar and Jackson and the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're at the Bengal so back to back cold

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<v Speaker 1>weather games Baltimore since in Addie on the road in

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<v Speaker 1>open weather stadiums in December. Then you return home take

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<v Speaker 1>on the forty nine Ers and the Eagles before you

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<v Speaker 1>close out on the road against the Giants, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a January game on the road at MetLife Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants. So just initial thoughts, guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch run for the Cowboys and what it could mean

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<v Speaker 1>to them whenever they're trying to get that NSC East

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<v Speaker 1>crown back from those Eagles. Well, I mean, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>tough on paper that final stretch, but it always does.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear every year. It's like I go to December

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<v Speaker 1>right away because they always put and it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, they put the Vision games in that final

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<v Speaker 1>month to make the race meaningful. But then when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at this season too, you're talking about the two

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<v Speaker 1>best records in the league, basically throwing the Saints too

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore and the forty nine Ers. So but again

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<v Speaker 1>it's on paper, and you really can't look at last

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<v Speaker 1>year's records and say, well, it's a tough schedule for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>because look, last December, the Rams came to town and

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<v Speaker 1>we were saw that schedule back in April and said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a monster matchup that they're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Potentially they won by thirty three at home,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just you never know you might have a

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<v Speaker 1>game like that, and you're probably gonna have a Jets

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<v Speaker 1>game in there somewhere too. It's just it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to tell. It doesn't make it any less fun

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, though. Yeah, I absolutely love the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw it come out, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty weird for the folks that were saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we had the third easiest schedule in the NFL, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's based off of last year's wins and losses,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very interesting at from the beginning, the rubber

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<v Speaker 1>meets the road for the Cowboys. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams at home Atlanta and at and T Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>and then out to Seattle, those are teams that when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the end of the season, teams that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the hunt for a wild cart or a division,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always there. So, like I said, the rubber meets

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<v Speaker 1>the road immediately. I know I went to December as well,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob to look at that little stretch that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into it. But man, the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>a very diverse schedule and they're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>play a lot of different schemes and some really tough teams. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree both of you guys, and I hear what

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying about the easiest schedule, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I do not like this schedule for the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially kicking off in that brand new stadium with those Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a disappointing year. Obviously, I think those boys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come out smoking. I don't like us against Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're home against Atlanta, so that's that's beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously everybody everybody knows about Seattle. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like, you know, you know, high week, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we have really confidence, high confidence, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>drop down it's like, oh crap, we gotta face these dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're gonna be tested. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think the whole year is gonna be tested. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>like a roller coaster over a year, especially that last

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<v Speaker 1>stretch right that last stretch is tough. That whole second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season is tough. You got Pittsburgh, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah whatever, Baltimore, Yeah, you know it. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta Baltimore, then you come down and

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<v Speaker 1>you got to play Cincinnati, and then you gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>back and play San Francisco, and then you got Phi Leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in New York. So it's we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly with this mental toughness that we've be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>with a past few weeks. We're gonna see exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>we stand with that, because this schedule is testing for

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<v Speaker 1>sure well. And I think if you look at that

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<v Speaker 1>stretch when you talk about Pittsburgh and then Minnesota, Luckily

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bye week in between there because you get

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that that extra rest after you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's going to be a battle against Pittsburgh and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna travel up north and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take on Minnesota. But whenever you look at those those

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<v Speaker 1>final five games, let's just say that the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you you finished things off with Baltimore San Francisco two

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<v Speaker 1>out of those first three out of the last five,

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<v Speaker 1>rather our playoff contenders super Bowl contenders. When you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it that way, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>two divisional opponents to round out the season. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that do for a team that doesn't want to look

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<v Speaker 1>ahead but kind of needs to whenever you get into

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<v Speaker 1>that Isaiah Man, Yeah, you can't look ahead when you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. I mean, they can't afford to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's only one stretch that I feel really

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<v Speaker 1>confident about in terms of us right now, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, games four or five, six, seven. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that stretch right there allows for us to really

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<v Speaker 1>get our feet up underneath us and get ahead so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can afford to possibly take some ills along

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<v Speaker 1>along the road. Right But as you're pretending to that

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<v Speaker 1>last stretch, it's tough, you know, when you have those

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<v Speaker 1>division games. I mean that's three in a row. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got, you got three NFC teams in

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<v Speaker 1>a row that you're gonna have to deal with, and

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all dogs, you know, Cincinnati. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be in the sense of a you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>people want to refer to certain things as somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a bye week obviously with them coming off of that

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<v Speaker 1>rough year. But San Francisco, Philly, New York, nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel comfortable or confident, and as an organization,

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<v Speaker 1>as a team, you're simply looking at that week because

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<v Speaker 1>that's all that matters. You can't look in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find yourself looking too far in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna lose it, lose the current. So um they

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<v Speaker 1>got they have to be ready to roll. You absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>can't look in the future. The team started off three

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<v Speaker 1>and out last year and might have started looking ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't turn out so good for them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, Kyle, I mean, and we'll probably get

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<v Speaker 1>into this. If you look at the other teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the nfcast, the schedules are obviously very similar. You play

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<v Speaker 1>the same outside divisions, and it's not easy for the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins or Giants either down the stretch. So, like Isaiah said,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be able to get your wins early.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is that stretch there where they've got three

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<v Speaker 1>straight home games in October, and that's that's huge. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time they had that was twenty eighteen. They

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<v Speaker 1>won all three with the Maari Cooper after they made

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<v Speaker 1>that big deal and found themselves winning the division. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got to take advantage of the breaks that come

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<v Speaker 1>your way in the schedule too. Yeah, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous opportunity for the Cowboys to exact the dominance in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL early with those matchups. I mean just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Cleveland Browns and what they're going to represent

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, on the offense and defensive matchups for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. But I look at the matchups in this schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching matchup for coach McCarthy, who's basically hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>reset button on his career, but he's going up against

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<v Speaker 1>some guys like McVeigh, Zimmer, you know, the Tomlins, the Hardballs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a bunch of great coaches and

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<v Speaker 1>also for Dak in those head to head matchups in

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<v Speaker 1>the season and the schedule, and so you know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about it, and we know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a culture change here in Dallas with

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy, but it's going to have to start immediately

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<v Speaker 1>in order for these guys to survive just the first

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of their season. So, like I said, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this, and I look at the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with this COVID nineteen and Mike McCarthy not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to put his imprint early on this team. Man, this

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<v Speaker 1>just heightens what two of days in those preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that we may be dealing with an

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<v Speaker 1>abbreviated version of the preseason games, but those games are

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<v Speaker 1>are important now more than ever, no doubt, and they

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<v Speaker 1>wonder wonderful. One thing that I don't one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to blow by, especially as as a former player,

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<v Speaker 1>that bye week and when that bye week occurs is

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<v Speaker 1>so important. Oh yeah, this is this is perfect. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the absolute best scenario that you could possibly have.

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<v Speaker 1>Some teams have their bye week and what week four,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four, week five, It is like you have

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<v Speaker 1>another you know, twelve, twelve, thirteen games to run after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So um there and they should be super happy, especially

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<v Speaker 1>after this stretch that they have to face on whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're bye week being danging their smack dab in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the season, which is awesome. Yeah, Detroit and

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay have the first bye weeks out of the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and both of those come in Week five. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not have won five bye week by any means, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry, honestly for the Lions and for the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers in that regard. Now, Rob, you kind of alluded

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<v Speaker 1>it to it a little bit earlier as you were

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<v Speaker 1>looking ahead. But the the NFC East down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys might have gotten a better draw down the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch than some of these other squads. And we'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you guys decide this. I'm gonna read them off. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants have the Seahawks on the road, Cardinals, Browns

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<v Speaker 1>at home, Ravens on the road. Then they close, of

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<v Speaker 1>course with the Cowboys. That's their final five games. Philadelphia

0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.000
<v Speaker 1>in their final five at Green Bay versus New Orleans

0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.400
<v Speaker 1>back to back weeks. That's twelve or that's thirteen and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got at Arizona at Dallas of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they close out at home against the Washington Redskins.

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<v Speaker 1>And then oh, I like that. I like that. That's schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for Washington it's at Pittsburgh at San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>home versus the Seahawks, then Carolina at home, and then

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<v Speaker 1>on the road against Philadelphia. So the Redskins no favors

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<v Speaker 1>at the end either. But out of those four teams

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<v Speaker 1>out of the NFC East, did the Cowboys actually have

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the easiest draw out of those four as it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to the side. Heckman is laughing for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Philly's draw looks too good. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Cowboys isn't great, but every everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the division has to play the forty nine Ers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens at some point. And Mickey Spagnola's got his

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<v Speaker 1>own podcast now on this network, but I used to

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<v Speaker 1>argue with him all the time, Oh, first play, schedule

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. They all play the same teams. Now Philly's

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<v Speaker 1>got to play Green Bay in New Orleans, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference in having to play those two quarterbacks not

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<v Speaker 1>having to play yea, sir, No, that's a That's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough schedule down the stretch. And you know, for us, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always been December. Like you said, Rob, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the schedule, you just want to look and

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<v Speaker 1>see what we have for December, because we had that

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<v Speaker 1>December cloud hanging over our head. It looks as though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when you look at our schedule, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets really funky right there towards the end, from November

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<v Speaker 1>first all the way to December twenty seven with the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers and the Vikings. But man, the Saints Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Man Boo Eagles. Absolutely, yeah, No, I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we can look at the other teams all day long

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<v Speaker 1>and see what they have to face. I mean, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the count ways have a lot that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to bear it this year. Um, you know obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we've talked about all these things, right, new coach,

0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.280
<v Speaker 1>new regime, new offense, new defense, everything. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as as we always do, when you want the other

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<v Speaker 1>teams in your division obviously to take the ales, especially

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. But like we you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>got to win some games. Man, they have to win

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<v Speaker 1>them earlier, but I earlier, and hopefully we can get

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy too. I Saiah, let me ask you this now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at those matchups like for our team

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<v Speaker 1>versus those AFC North opponents like Pittsburgh and Baltimore, what

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<v Speaker 1>is that gonna do for us as a team potentially

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<v Speaker 1>going into the playoffs coming against those edgy in those

0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.280
<v Speaker 1>tough teams like Baltimore San Francisco even I think it

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<v Speaker 1>does a great gym in terms of preparing you for

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna face, because playoff football is a whole

0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.200
<v Speaker 1>other level as we all as we all know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So playoff football levels up about ten times or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>speed you think regular gameplay is. It is literally ten

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<v Speaker 1>times faster and every play matter. So when you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>these greedy teams, you know, these teams that you know

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:09.919
<v Speaker 1>you can have a lot of these guys that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that have a little edge to them. Right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Baltimore, you talk about Minnesota. At this part,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna be in a dog fight all

0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.919
<v Speaker 1>three of those teams, right, A FC's nasty, So you

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.440
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna you're gonna be in a dog fight.

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<v Speaker 1>So it prepares you for that stretch, right, it prepares

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<v Speaker 1>you for that stretch and what you're gonna endure going

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<v Speaker 1>for because like we talked about, you know you got Pittsburgh, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, those teams are you got to get your

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<v Speaker 1>mind right, all right, Washington, it's always a rivalry game,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know whatever. But then you got Baltimore, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you gotta go to Baltimore. Right, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be cold them you got hardball out there, you got

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<v Speaker 1>them dogs out the Earl Cats I played with, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there, I mean you have to be be serious, right,

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to roll and then you come back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, Cincinnati, and then like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>have that last three stretch, so that's gonna prepare you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that launches you in that competitive edge going into

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<v Speaker 1>that final stretch and then transition to straight into the playoffs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is Rob Well just piggyback and on what

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah said for a couple of weeks now the whole

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<v Speaker 1>mental toughness thing that that is so true when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about trying to navigate a schedule, because just the

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<v Speaker 1>longer I cover this team in the league, when I

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<v Speaker 1>see the schedule come out every year, I can look

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<v Speaker 1>at it two ways. I could say, oh damn, they

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<v Speaker 1>can win every game on the schedule, jump out the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that just that just speaks to the parody

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. And and when you talk, when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people around the team, the biggest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>them is how to win close games. And they did

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<v Speaker 1>They did it two years ago. They did not do

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<v Speaker 1>it last year. And when things weren't going their way,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of had a snowball effect at times last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that speaks to the mental toughness. Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>talks about you got to be able to bounce back.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's if they can find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>win close games this year, they're gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And but how do they do that? You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that's gonna be the difference. Okay, uh yeah, we lost,

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.280
<v Speaker 1>we lost Kyle's mike. But you know, I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>also important about this this season is what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the identity of this group. Guys. You know when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about and I said, you know and Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know this for sure that towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of every sea, every season, a team has an identity. Well,

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are gonna have to have their identity immediately

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in order to compete and not put themselves behind the

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<v Speaker 1>eight ball in this schedule because of the good teams

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that they have on the schedule. Absolutely, yeah, these guys

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.440
<v Speaker 1>are gonna figure it out. They're gonna have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out asac right, Like you're like you're pertaining to

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, right off the bat, you know, this

0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 1>team is going to be tested greater than they ever

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<v Speaker 1>have been, right because everything that they're already coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the season with right the restricted you know, preparation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the COVID nineteen stuff. You know our guys in shape, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do guys have enough time to absorb this new this

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this new system. You know, all the young guys, can

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<v Speaker 1>they catch up? Right? Can they catch up and get

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>ready for what's gonna what's gonna be expected of them,

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<v Speaker 1>especially some of these these big name guys like CD

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and such. Um. And then you go straight to a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new stadium and one of the most populated cities

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that it's gonna that place is gonna be flooded, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta face freaking and Aaron Donald and golf

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then you know, and then it's like, okay, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>if I survived that, then I come back home. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going home and guess what going it? We got Matt

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Ryan coming in right, So, so I mean it's you're

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, you're gonna be tested, you know those

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<v Speaker 1>first three games. He's gonna be like, who who do

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<v Speaker 1>we have? Do we have some dogs in the locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we know we got a dog at coach,

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 1>but do we have some dogs in the locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>It's this team gonna come together? Are we gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>you know this COVID nineteen stuff as, Oh, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough time to prepare, they didn't have enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to to to bond, and nobody wants to hear we

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<v Speaker 1>got we got, we gotta work. We gotta get every

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<v Speaker 1>teams dealing with it. Yeah. Yeah, And then whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>get down the stretch, you have an opportunity to look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of those other teams that have gone through

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<v Speaker 1>some of those mental obstacles and even physical too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Philadelphia. You mentioned it, Rob They have

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<v Speaker 1>to play Green Bay this year. They played him last

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<v Speaker 1>year on the road and beat Green Bay. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the big reasons why that happened. Davante Adams is hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know there's always that next man of mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's always the rollover with injuries and whatnot, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to still win games without injured players, but

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<v Speaker 1>it still plays a factor as to who you are

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<v Speaker 1>as a football team, and that's something that the Cowboys

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>have looked at in the past. So we've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gone through this schedule a little bit. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>other recent storylines we definitely need to hit up when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back. Stephen Jones went on Mike Florio and

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk race some eyebrows a little bit during

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<v Speaker 1>his conversation. Could this be a little bit of insight

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<v Speaker 1>into the Cowboys chess match with the Dak Prescott negotiations.

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<v Speaker 1>here on this Tuesday. Hope everybody had a safe and

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<v Speaker 1>fun Mother's Day weekend. Happy Mother's Day, Late Mother's Day

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<v Speaker 1>of took up that first segment talking about the schedule

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>release and some of the implications on that NFC some

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>other storylines coming out of this past week. The Cowboys

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>did go out and sign Cam Irving one year, two

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<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars, and then he has an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to earn some incentives up to a quarter million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>depending on his play here in twenty twenty overtakes maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Night as that swing tackle spot and replaces the departed.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I'm blanking on a name here. Who was

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the swimming tackle that Cam flaming? I'm sorry, I'm almost

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>said Cam Irving, even though it's Sam flaming that he's

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>replaced whatever moving forward as the swing tame available Cam. Yeah,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>best available Cam. How about that. Let's just throw that

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>out there. But he was up there blocking for Patrick

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes in twenty nineteen with the Kansas City Chiefs and

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Rob what do you feel like this does for that

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive line? Because it gives you a little bit extra

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>depth at the tackle spot, but it also gives you

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy who could play interior offensive line if you

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>don't like the battle that's going on there. Yeah, versatility's big,

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I think based on what he did last year. Though

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>you said it, swing tackle is one of the honestly,

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the draft, it is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most glaring needs they had left potentially. I know they

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like Brandon Night, but when you're talking about an offseason

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that we just talked about, truncated workouts and all that

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, I think having an experienced guy if

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you've got to move things up and you don't have

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of practice time. Uh. In Irving, I think

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a that's a good get. Eight game started

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>at left tackle for the Chiefs last year, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could play a couple of different spots. I think

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>he's played some center too, So you know, having a

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>guy is on your backup lining pretty much play anywhere

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and has played a lot of football. I think that's good. Yeah,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what we needed. And like you said, uh Rob,

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>before the before the draft, that swing tackle was something

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that we were eyeball and now we get it with

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that veteran. With the veteran guy has obviously championship pedigree

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and winning the Super Bowl in Kansas City, and so

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be interesting. I believe the depth at the

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, you know that we're gonna these guys are

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be fighting it out, especially at the center and

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>guard uh position. But with the new CBA, I do

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>believe that the Cowboys are gonna be able to carry

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:51.479
<v Speaker 1>eight uh offensive lineman on this the the on the

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on the roster, is that correct? I believe they are

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.679
<v Speaker 1>required to carry eight is what I think it is.

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And you have your your five starters that everybody kind

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of goes for and knows about, and then you've also

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>got those backup potentials. Whenever you talk about whoever loses

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the Connor McGovern, Connor Williams and Joe Looney battle. And

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then you also have I think you look at the

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>contract for Cam Irving here and I think it shows

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that he's expected to be on the roster. He's expected

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to be that swing tackle, and you need a guy

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like that because Tyrn smiss missed three games in twenty nineteen,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>He's missed games in the past couple of years. And

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>then on the other side, you've got Lyell Collins who

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>missed a game last year, and I know he's been

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>probably the most significant part of that offensive line, maybe

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>outside of Zack Martin, but he's gonna miss some games

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Yeah, so Cam's gonna be active

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>for sure to be Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah,

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>two and a half million dollars, you're playing, Yeah, you're

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be. You're probably gonna be playing quite a bit.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Now that kind of leads us into though, the on

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the football, the defensive line, Alden's

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Smith apparently meeting with Roger Goodell. Now this isn't confirmed,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 1>but Stephen Jones didn't mention it on Pro Football Talk

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>with Mike Florio yesterday and or excuse me, earlier this week,

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I see the positives of Alden Smith meeting with

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Roger Goodell. But is there any way that this could

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>be a negative rob in terms of the hope for

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>reinstatement for both Smith and then also Randy Gregory. No,

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Ka. I think that's just part

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of the process. Okay, guys trying to get back in

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the league, and from the Cowboys experience with Randy, it's

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>been a face to face meeting with Roger. And then

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a time frame for when Roger gets back to

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and the NFL makes his decision. So you know,

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you hope it's something. It's a it's a window that

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they get a decision before training camp whenever that starts.

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I think it's just part of the process.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and we'll see what happens. I mean, the Cowboys,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't have a feeling either way. But

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I think obviously there's hope if they went out and

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>signed Alvin Smith, that that there's a possibility. You know,

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Jay Glazers, a well respected reporter around the league that

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>has been working out with Alvin Smith and and maybe

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that's something in Commissioner Goodells, you know, looking into the

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>case or his situation. Uh, he'll take that into account

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's everything we've heard has been very positive about

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>his recovery. Yeah, I think this is just a status check.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, Rogier Gidel wants to get eyes on exactly

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the individual that you know, you hear so much about you.

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>You've heard about all the negative, but you know he

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>wants to give this young man opportunity to sit down

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, let me see what your character is

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>right now. You know I'm not going gonna throw you

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>back out there. Um, you know, I just want to

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>evaluate a face to face what I'll any hearsay as

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to where you're at right now and make my own judgment,

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and then what'll reconvene and see, um, if you're ready

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to touch the field again and represent this shield. Just

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a straight formality is really what it is. As U.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have to go through that process. You gotta

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>get in front of the commissioner and hope everything works out,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>because if Smith and Gregory are reinstated, all of a sudden,

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>that right defensive indspot isn't as much of a hole

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>as it is, maybe even a surplus of guys with

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>now the fifth round draft pick and Bradley and I

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>also being added into the mix. But that wasn't the

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>only thing that Stephen Jones talked to Mike Florio about

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. And I'm interested to see what Isaiah

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>has to say about this one as a former quarterback

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and also as a former player in the league in general,

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and then also Rob as an insider and heckmas Our

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Swiss Army Knife. I want to see what you guys

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>think about what Stephen Jones said on Floria or with

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Florio about Dak Prescott and the contract negotiations. Now, he

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>made it abundantly clear they still want to pay Dak

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Prescott and they want to get a deal done. They're

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>not going to rescind that franchise tag. However, he did

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>come out and say that, I mean, it's kind of

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>what we all know. It's the fact of if you

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>put too much money in one position, especially your quarterback,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>it really hinders the rest of your roster. What kind

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of angle is this taking in terms of your negotiations,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>because the Joneses have been known to negotiate in public,

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>What does this do and what is this insight into

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>how the negotiations are going right now? Well, it's a

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>loaded question. It is definitely a loaded question. And I

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>can tell you right now, Dak Prescott is watching Jerry

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>require to talk about showing me the money. So right

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>now they need to pay this dude. I mean, they

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>need to pay them, and you're not You're not helping

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>yourself now or in the future. Um, you know they're

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>not going to resend an offer. Okay, nobody really resents

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>a franchise tag offer until a franchise quarterback, it doesn't happen.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>So making that statement does nothing for anybody, right, So

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play underneath that franchise tag most likely. But

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you know you paid You paid your receiver twenty million

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a year, right, like you paid your receiver twenty million

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a year. So you're not willing to at this point

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in time, not willing to double that up and pay

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the man who gets him the ball, right. You know,

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to it's hard to fathom in and I

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>think that Stephen right now in camp have really they

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>threw it on his shoulders there they're there. They kind

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of threw him under the bus a little bit because

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they know what what Cowboys fans want, right, Cowboys fans

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>won a championship. That is number one, right, it's the

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>most highly touted, you know, team in the league, in

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the world, and they know that the pressures from everybody

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>else is going to affect his ability to make sound decisions,

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>possibly right if he doesn't have the right camp. So

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>put it on his shoulders saying hey, you know, you

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>know the analytics show that if you pay your quarterback

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>too much, then your team success rate goes down. Man,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's BS, that's BS. We're not in that world.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>We're not Tom Brady. Nobody's Tom Brady. The only reason why,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously Tom Brady has has just just changed everything. Right,

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he's the curveball, right, He's taking less money for a

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 1>number of years to ensure that they have that they

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 1>have a you know, super Bowl championship team. So that's different.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, these cats are young. You know, they've seen

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ownership in the past not treat players

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>so well. Right, Um, so you have to go out,

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you get one opportunity really in your career to get

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that big boy contract and get that guarantee money. And

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I really think that's what it comes down to, is

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>what's those guarantees numbers? Looking like, we haven't hurting anything.

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't know anything for sure, but I can almost

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>assure you that it's all about the guarantee money. Yeah,

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what we've been talking about. How the reports

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>say it could be the length of the deal is

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the biggest hold up. But I'm with Isaiah, I wonder

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>if it's more still about dollars and trying to figure

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that out based on you know, because Stephen's talking about. Honestly,

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>what Stephen said to me is no different than what

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he said the past couple of years about under contracts

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they've tried to get done. I mean, you know, talking

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>about dividing the pie and trying to create a deep

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>enough roster top to bottom to be successful. I honestly,

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I've said this before. I think both sides are right.

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Steven's right, like in the in the today's

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL the parody, you've got to be able to have

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>a deep roster that can be fielded one to fifty five,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>one to fifty three, whatever it is now, and so

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you navigate that with these

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>top players that you have. At the same time, Dak

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Prescott is he's a player and he's trying to get

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>as much money as he can and maximize his earning

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>potential while he can't, especially given the first four years

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>of his career at his position what he was making.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>So you can't fault him for that. But you also

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>can't fault the Cowboys for trying to figure it out.

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, what's what's the best way to divide it

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>all up. But ultimately, I don't, I don't really sweat it.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've gone down this road with DeMarcus

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and Zeke, and ultimately it always gets done. So we'll see.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>But I don't. I don't. I don't sweat it too much.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Heck no, you know what, I actually watched the entire

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>interview and I didn't take anything from what When he

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>made the comment about analytics, that didn't seem like verbal

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>sparring to me through the media for Steve and Jones,

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I just felt as though he was he was, you know,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>basically stating a truth that all thirty two teams are

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>dealing with. But they I mean, it wouldn't matter to

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay if they went to the Super Bowl and

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Rogers making them money. They want to shatter that statistic anyway.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Analytics are not Dak Prescott is homegrown. He's our quarterback.

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>If you've been a Cowboy fan long enough to see

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>they go through those years of having really horrible or

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>borderline quarterbacks, we got our guy. I mean, he's our

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>guy that we that the Joneses bench Tony Romo for.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I don't see this as a point

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of saying, Okay, sign this or else. I didn't take

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>it like that one way or another. Dak Prescott is

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna come into this season two ways. He's gonna be

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>the highest paid quarterback in the NFL, or he's gonna

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be amongst the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL with

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the franchise to either way, he's gonna be a Dallas Cowboy.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And so, I mean, I think that the NFL and

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that the Cowboys do a really great job

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>of owning the off season to keep our name in

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>your mouth. Everybody's talking about Dak Prescott in this contract

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>except for Dak and his representatives. And so I find

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it very interesting because we don't know what's on the table,

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and we keep speculating about it. But at the same time,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>no matter if it's the years, if it's the money,

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>all of it benefits the Cowboys in the end. Well,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think go for it. No, I was gonna say,

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you. Heck and I and I

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>totally agree with you Rob as well. That you know

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>this is you know that he made some good points

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in analytics. He's not wrong, you know, and you know

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously Dak has his time span, he wants to do

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>things in But I take offense to it as a

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>as a player because as the leader of this organization now, right,

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>which is we can all we can all wrest sure

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that he's the leader of this organization now in terms

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>as a player, you you did other deals before me, right,

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>It was like like you made these other deals happen.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm sitting back and I'm being asked right

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to take less than what I really want simply because

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>oh there's not enough money and now we have to

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>save money? Right? Where was where were you save money conversations?

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Save money conversations when when you know when cool paid,

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>So like, it's not not the conversation, it's the time

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Right, These conversations are happening after the money

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>has already been handed out to these other camps who

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 1>are very valuable players. But guess what, these guys really

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>don't do much unless I'm taking care of my business, right,

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's where an issue lies, right, and I'm and

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm again, we're all assuming, right, But if it was me,

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I would be up up in the air a little

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>bit in terms of, you know, me being the last

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>guy to get paid. About it? Now, all of a sudden,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>now we've got to budget, now, Isaiah, I want to

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>play Devil's advocate here. You're talking about adding these other

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>players and putting money elsewhere. You put the money into

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Marii Cooper. You put your draft stock into taking Cedee

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Lamb in the first round rather than maybe going with

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Calavon Chason and an edge rusher. You went with these

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>different moves. Could you use that as, hey, we're giving

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you weapons with these are gifts for you to be

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>successful because we think that, hey, if you've got this

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>around you, you're a Super Bowl contending quarterback. That's what

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 1>we're doing for you. Now it's time to maybe give

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>back here. What are your thoughts around that, because it

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>seems like at least over the courts of the offseason,

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>they've done their job in terms of protecting Dak and

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>giving him plenty of weapons in order to try and

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>be successful, you know what. And I appreciate and I

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>value your point. But then again come back to timing, right,

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>who did they who? Who did they just sign at

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>his position? That's true, Right, nobody's seeing him as a threat.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't see him as a threat either. But

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>guess what he is a what if? Right? What if

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't go the way that we wanted to What

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't get your way, or what if you

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>throw a fit and you don't want to sign this

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>tenor guess what? We got somebody that can step in

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and do your No, no, no, I'm saying, I'm just

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying. I'm just saying it might it may

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>not be the way. It might not happen that way,

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>But the worst case scenario, they can do that. Right,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not I mean to me, even drawing that scenario

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>isn't realistic because the Cowboys have groomed Dack to this

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>point and you don't get you don't groom a quarterback

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and get to the time that you have to sign

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy and throw them to the wolves. This this

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>is the time that we know. Look, we've owned the offseason,

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>all of this speculation. Really, guys, July the fifteenth is

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>where we gotta wait on all this, right because if

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing happens in between now and July fifteenth, then we

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>can hit the panic button. Then we can start talking

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>about disrespect. But all of this is just speculative. I mean, look,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and here's the thing. Dak went from being a fourth

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>round guy to now being the face of a franchise,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a marketing name that's out there. I mean, the advertising

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars are coming in. All of that has nothing to

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>do with the contract that the Cowboys are gonna get

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>him give him. But at the same time, every throw

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that Dak makes this season is gonna be under the microscope.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>If he bet on himself last year, he's gonna have

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to bet on himself again. He's gonna have to That's

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a tremendous amount of pressure on him to succeed,

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, and that microscope is going to be hot

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and right under him. Every quarterback that he has on

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the schedule, I mean, Jared Goff, Russell Wilson, also Matt Ryan,

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>big Ben, Roethlisberger, all of these guys, all his contemporaries,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>these are guys that he that have made more money

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.439
<v Speaker 1>than him, and he's wanting to make more money than them.

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>He gets an opportunity to go out and show it,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else did. And I don't think Dak

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Prescott wants to bet on himself again. I don't think

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he wants to go into another contract year, whether it's

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>on the franchise tag or whatever. He wants the long

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>term deal, which is why ultimately I sit on the

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>side of the fence that I think it's going to

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>get done. A lot of people forget that with the

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft and all of the production and all the

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>work that goes into getting and leading up into a draft,

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes away time from the contract negotiations and things

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>like that, and I think that was one of the cases.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And then also the terribly tragic passing of his brother

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of put a hold on it. After the draft,

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to see those conversations as you would

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>normally expect because of the morning and the sad this

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>around that, And you got to give him as much

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>time as he needs. You gotta give him a ton

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of time. That's something that nobody really wants to bring

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>up because it was. It was tragic and it was sad,

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but it also just puts a little bit of a

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>hold there. You've got till July fifteenth, Like you said,

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>hack Mo, there's plenty of time to get this done.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But I was asked on we were asked on Twitter

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>as a as a group, yes or no? Do you

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>think the long term deal gets done with Dak Prescott.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll start with you, hack R. Okay, it's asked me again.

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I was thinking to ask Rob does he

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>think he's worth the money? Well, yeah, if you want

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to go with that, Rob, and I think he's worth

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.839
<v Speaker 1>the money. Rob, you're thinking sign Okay, No, I think

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he's earned a new contract. And I think the Cowboys, Kyle,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you just said something that you got to. You gotta

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>point this out. I mean, I think he didn't bet

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>on himself last year. I think that he's definitely something

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>done and he decided he wanted to he wanted to

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>play it out, and I think he did. I think

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>he was right. I mean, he made the Pro Bowl

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and had a good season to try to keep maximizing

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>his earning potential. But the Cowboys have been trying to

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>get this done. I mean it's it's I think maybe

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>that was part of Steven's point, is it's not that

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to to delay this. I think you want

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>to try to get this done. If anything, I think

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him done first would have been easier

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>because then you could have slotted things around the biggest

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>deal on your roster first. Um. But but Isaiah, I'm

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>with Isaiah. I mean, I think he's earned, he's earned

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 1>a new contract. And but again I don't I don't

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>sweat it. To answer your question, Kyle, yes, I think

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it gets done by July fifteen. The answers yes, The

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>answer is yes, Kyle, it gets done before July fifteenth.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>No way they go into two of days with this looming,

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>or of the season, with this contract looming. It has

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to get done. And yes, I again, when my brother's

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>over there, yes it gets done. But again I am

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to your point where I timing, you know, timing time

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and timing, and and there was a there was a

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>there's always a better way that something could have been done,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this should have been. They could

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>have really communicated to him, you know the importance of

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>him in this organization by making sure that this deal

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>got done first, right, and then all the other parts coming,

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>but him as the leader of this team, I'm the

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>last guy. You know, if we're playing dodgeball, you know

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You picked me last. You know, we're

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>playing pickup ball, you picked me last. You're telling me

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that I'm your guy, but you're taking care of me last. Right,

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody else getting paid up the lineman are getting paid. Say,

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>secondary is getting paid. You know it's getting I'm just saying, hey,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm there, but you're But now you're trying to talk

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to me about budgets, you know, analytics, analytics. Yes, yes,

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it gets done, but I like again and he'll be happy, right,

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and nobody will talk about this anymore. But there is

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a better way that this could have been handled in

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the conversations. Aren't that complicated that it couldn't have been

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>done a long time ago? Everything is sitting as a message.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Everything does. I'm still on the side of saying that

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it's less about budge jets and more about years and

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>length of deal and things of that sort of wanting

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to have Dak under contract for five years and have

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>his rights for five years rather than four. But until

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>we know what the negotiations are like, it's kind of

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>tough to speculate either way. Now, one of those weapons

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>around Dak Prescott could be in for a position chang

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.920
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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah stand back in the grade. Heck my Harrison here

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate. Now, we just talked about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott negotiations and what that could mean and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the public negotiations that may have been had with

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<v Speaker 1>all the off field stuff all off season long. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about football because I'm a football guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to talk about the xs and os.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to start a new segment and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be I don't know if this is a weekly thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We might switch it in and out throughout the course

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of the off season, but we're talking xes and os.

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask all of our great analysts. You've got

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the Insider and Rob Phillips, you've got a Super Bowl champion,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and Isaiah swished him in Swiss Army knife over here.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Swiss Army knife. Heck, but Harrison played by the way

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>college ball as well. So we've we've got We've got

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<v Speaker 1>every angle covered here and we can talk about everything

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>we can, from access to o's all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>And our first question actually comes from a fan on Twitter,

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and he said, could the Cowboys use Tony Pollard as

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<v Speaker 1>their Tavon Austin slash fourth wide receiver backup role in

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>addition to his duties as a backup running back. And

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<v Speaker 1>Rob will start with you, I hope. So I'd love

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to see that. I mean, I think use him on

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>punt returns and then also use him in different ways

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield. I don't know if he would

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>be your full time fourth receiver, but but yes, I

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I think his skill set allows for that. A

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>guy that can line up in different spots, line up

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>in the same backfield as z and and help in

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>different ways. The way they used him last year was interesting.

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>It was more so, you know, when they had a

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>lead and they kind of salted away games with him

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. But but yes, I think he could

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 1>be more involved as a receiver isah. Yeah, I think

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he could be more involved as well. I don't see

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>him being a four time just like Rob said, but

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I can definitely see him coming out of

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the backfield or even just lining up and doing some

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>some two man concepts and him kind of just pulling

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>some of that underneath coverage. I don't really foresee him

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>going down field too much, but him working on linebackers.

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he could do that all day, all day long. Yeah,

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>he's a He's a package guy. You know, Tony, you

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the Tony Pollard packages. Before we drafted Ceedee Lamb.

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about that a few episodes ago

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>about him actually being maybe that guy that to replace

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Cobb is that third receiver in certain packages. Now with

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb, most of those yards are gone and Ezekiel

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Ellen is gonna need that bona fide backup to give

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you that thunder lightning. And Tony Pollard showed you that

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>he has the capacity to take on that load as well.

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I'm excited for a young player like him,

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully, you know, the the Cowboys have those different

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>packages to keep him involved, but also keeping him involved

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in special teams, just keeping that rhythm goal. With Tony Pollard,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be important. You want to

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>get the ball question? Sorry, Kyle, now go for a rub.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just an interesting question though, because you get past

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>those top three receivers and it's like it's a lot

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of young guys trying to get those maybe last two

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>or three spots. You know. Oh yeah, it's John Day

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Johnson who was on IR last year. It's it's Devin Smith.

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>It's I'm trying to Cedric Wilson. Yeah, so you know,

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, there's opportunity I think for Tony and

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe help in that area. Well, and you look at

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>some of the stats that he's had over his career. Now,

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>last year was a little bit different. He didn't necessarily,

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was utilized as well as he

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>could have been in the passing game. Fifteen receptions, one

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seven yards. However, you go back to what

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>he did in Memphis. He had at least twenty nine

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>receptions each of his three years as a starter, and

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he had at almost almost or over three hundred yards

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.720
<v Speaker 1>each season, and he averaged over ten yards per catch.

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think you could absolutely use a guy like

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 1>that and just get the ball in his hands. That's

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I was gonna talk about with Heckma.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>You want to get your playmaker the ball, and he's

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys who is so lightning quick and

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>so shifty that he could be a playmaker when need be. Yeah,

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, like you hit the nail on the

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>head when you talk about what he did at Memphis.

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>He was I mean, they had a running back, they

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>had a guy his full time running back, and Pollard,

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>even though he was a running back, handle most of

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 1>the receiving duties for the running back. So I see

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>him being able to have it already, that skill set there.

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But Isaiah alluded to it just him in those little

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>small spaces up against a linebacker. I mean, that's a

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>good night, Irene. You know that Tony Pollard is gonna

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>win that battle every time. And so you know the

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have a good problem. But once Cede Lamb came

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>into the equation, man, those yard, that yard is just shrank.

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely yeah. I mean that's what I was gonna contest to.

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>It is just how often do we really you know,

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I hate this because there's so much talent on every

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>NFL team, right, I mean, I mean you're if you're

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in the league, you can ball, right, And what happens

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>this guy's like polar get buried and you know they

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>get they get buried. They get buried on rosters and

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>they don't get the tick that they need. They don't

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>get the tick that they need in order to develop

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>into the players that they that they should be. And

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I think this is possibly another one of those scenarios, right,

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got those three receivers. Those guys aren't

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.320
<v Speaker 1>coming off the field, right, You got you got a

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.879
<v Speaker 1>gallup coup and CD. They're not coming off the field.

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>You gotta drawing at you know at tight end he's

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not coming off the field. You know, then you got Zeke.

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get his touches. So how many touches do

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you honestly see Polar getting even if you go into

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a five or five you know, five out, you know set,

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what he's doing. He's running underneath routes.

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>You know if he comes in the game, you know

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 1>as at running back, is he really tolding the ball

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that much? Nah? You know, because we bringing Zeke back

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>in so as a defense, you know that he's going

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to be limited in terms of what they're gonna allow

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>for him to do. So you know, it kind of

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>cuts down his productivity. So I like to kill. I

0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like I think he's I think he's dope. But again,

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got some other do is that at

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you that you're paying it have to touch the field.

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:07.439
<v Speaker 1>If there's one hope I have for twenty twenty, and

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of hopes that I have for that offense

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of high expectations around it. But

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.760
<v Speaker 1>one of those hopes is. I don't want Tony Polar

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to get lost in the shuffle. I really don't. I

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>know you have those weapons. Like Isaiah just rattled off,

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>all of those guys are going to get their chance.

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I just want Tony Polar to make sure he gets

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>his chance too, because he didn't get an opportunity last year.

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think to really show what he had. And

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>whenever he did have an opportunity, whether it was a

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>small one or latent games, he showed out. And I

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 1>think that's something you should at least reward and try

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and fit into what should be an explosive offense, because

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he can add that to the table. Now,

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>switching to the other side of the football, who are

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:47.279
<v Speaker 1>your starting corners? Of course, the Cowboys go out and

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>take a second round selection in Treyvon Diggs. They add

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Robinson in the fourth round. You add that already

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to the cheetah Ooozier. You add that to the Jordan Lewis,

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the Anthony Browns of the world. Who is your starting corner? Oh,

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 1>your three starting corners? Right now? Thinking about if you're

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in the shoes of Mike Nolan rob Well, it depends

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to me on what they do with Cheeto. You know,

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.840
<v Speaker 1>if he stays at corner, I see him as a starter,

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>especially I leaned towards experience early given the state of

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this offseason, you know, I think I think Kevin Cheeto

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and having you know, maybe Anthony Brown too as starters

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>might make sense early. But I you know, I think

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I could see Treybon Diggs as a starter down the

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>stretch or playing starter caliber snaps down the stretch, just

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like those young corners did three years ago, Jordan Lewis, Cheeto,

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 1>those guys, those guys, it kind of became their secondary

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 1>as the year went on. But I think Isaiah's spoken

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in this it's hard for a corner to step in

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>right away, you know and play starter snaps, and they

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>do have experience ahead of him, So I would lean

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>on that early at least. I'm surprised that you said

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that Diggs is not an instant starter. Honestly, is he

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>not maybe the best corner on the team right now? Well,

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's gonna have to go out and earn it,

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and and they're in a situation right now where there's

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not on field reps for him to take. So that's

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a great deal kind of I'm kind of factoring that

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in this year into how quickly can a rookie be

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>ready to play NFL football if things continue the way

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 1>they are. Obviously we're counting on having a training camp

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>or at least, you know, I think the week is

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>very hopeful of that at some point. But but I

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 1>gotta factor that in when I talk about, you know

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what a rookie can do right away? Now he's Trayvon

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Diggs is a day one starter for the Cowboys. Man,

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you might as well pencil in me and right now

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>he's in flready, uh, every and it's everybody else after that,

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. So, I mean, tray Bon Diggs, I want

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to just Trayvon Diggs, Lewis and Woozier. In my bet,

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you know Brown is going to be, you know, third cornerback.

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that's just my belief. I think you just circled

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon and just say, hey, he's our starting guy right now,

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and everybody else is by it out on the other side. Yeah,

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you guys forget about the veteran that

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we picked up a couple of years ago. Daryl Worley, Yeah, yeah, Daryl.

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I think you brought him in

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to do just that right. You brought him in, um,

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>because he is a vet. You brought him in because

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he's lengthy, because he's feisty. He's gonna he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the representative of what you're trying to enact on that

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. So I think that he starts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, Yeah, that I believe that that Digg

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>starts as well. I think those two guys are in there, um,

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you know you got Brown possibly in the slot.

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I think he is gonna be back there to safety.

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't see him playing a corner too

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 1>much more. I think you're gonna throw him back there.

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>So I think you got those guys really competing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Robinson's gonna come along too, depending on how fast

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he develops in training him. Yeah, and I kind of

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I wrote about this a week or two ago,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the shift of thinking in terms of Mike

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Nolan in the corners and wanting to go longer. I

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if you see a combination of Darryl Worley,

0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Diggs and maybe even Maurice Kennedy and as well,

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you talk about experience, Robin wanting a guy with experience.

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I think those three guys could start. And the fact

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that Daryl Worley has started the majority of his games

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>in his four years in the NFL kind of leans

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>to the fact of maybe throwing him into this conversation

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more seriously. But I think that's a

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>great point that you made about the fact that without

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason, without these rookie training camps, at least in person,

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and then all of these different lead in events, it's

0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be tough for a rookie to step in

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and start immediately. So last question here before we wrap

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<v Speaker 1>things up for the day. Biggest hole to fill for

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys still. You've addressed the interior offensive line,

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you attest the backup swing tackle, you've added hopefully something

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>at right defensive end. Are any of those still the

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>main concern when it comes to the Cowboys in twenty twenty.

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Heck no, We'll start with you, Ah, you know, obviously,

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know the contingency plans at the edge. We want

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to know what Roger Goodell thinks about you know, Smith

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and Gregory um safety. I'm still I still think that

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>their question marks at the strong safety position. I believe

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Woods is, you know, the incumbent that we're just

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>going to right now. But they're still may be an opportunity,

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>uh to find some other guys in free agency are

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.439
<v Speaker 1>after cuts final cuts are made. So I don't think

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I wouldn't say the biggest hole, but

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's just another position that you still

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 1>have to be looking at upgrading. Example, I'm gonna go

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with depth at at outside linebacker and a tight end.

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Those are those those are two areas that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with. I think that we have pretty much all

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the other spots pretty much. You know, we have we

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of depth. Yea, yeah, you did continue

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to find depth that officer line. Um, they have depth

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>at D line. I don't see a problem there. We're

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna get one of those ends, right you know, Smith

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>or you know, Hopefully or whoever, you know, We're gonna

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>get one of those guys back. No, they're not gonna

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna not allow both of them back in

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the league. We hope back. They might come four games

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>after after the season starts, but but one of those

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>guys be in there. So I'm not worried about that anymore.

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>But I am concerned about our depth de linebacker. You know,

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Sean Lee gets hurt or or

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Wolf or Jalen one of those guys

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>getting hurts, Like who's stepping in that cauld fulfeel it

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the way that those guys work, right, I know we

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>have a solid three, but if one of those three

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 1>big three get knocked out, then you're then you're setting

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>up there stret Thomas right in the middle of the

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>mix right there. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. So yeah,

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so that that and tight end, those are those are

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 1>my picks. I got a totally echo when Isaiah just

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 1>said I was thinking a linebacker and because you know

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>vander Esch, we'll see what he's able to do is

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the off season goes on, if he's gonna be ready

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 1>for for training camp. Uh, and then yeah, tight end.

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, to me, it wasn't Uh. I didn't rule

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<v Speaker 1>out the fact they could have drafted a tight end

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>even though they got Blake Jerman, just because you know,

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I think not having Jason Witten, I think that that

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 1>does leave a holder that's a guy that can block.

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>He's an experienced player there, Blake Bell signing him, I

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.439
<v Speaker 1>think that gives them some experience. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a spot to watch and see how those guys developed,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, look, Jarlin's not used to playing as

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<v Speaker 1>many snaps as he's probably gonna play this year. I mean,

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 1>he's usually playing about twenty five snaps a game, and

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 1>now you're asking him to play Witten Droll. That's a

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:15.439
<v Speaker 1>big difference now this year. Absolutely, And I think Blake

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Bell adds a little bit to that backup tight end

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<v Speaker 1>spot because he's a better blocker, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's still an ascending player, much like Blake Jarwin.

1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I think both blakes have an opportunity to be an

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 1>ascending player in the early parts of their career. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Dalton Schultz back there. I agree with Isaiah on

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the linebacking corps, though, I think the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>need maybe one more guy in the mix there to

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<v Speaker 1>go along with the uncertainty of that position with Laton

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<v Speaker 1>vander Esh's health, the age of Sean Lee, and then

1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 1>also even the health and just play making ability of

1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith, I think all of those kind of question

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<v Speaker 1>marks add to the fact that you need another linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my opinion on that overall. But that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it here for Talking Cowboys. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>fun Tuesday morning as well. Hope everybody's staying say out

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<v Speaker 1>there and continuing to look forward to the fall. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. So for heck Ma Harrison, for

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips and Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying

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<v Speaker 1>so long here on Talking Cowboys. This has been a

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