1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Star in fris Joe Say now, your hosts, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Danny Serek and Kyle Yeomans. It's another 6 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys here on this Tuesday morning. Glad 7 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: you're with us from our respective SWBC Mortgage studios. Kyle Yeomans, 8 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and the Great Isaiah stand 9 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: back our residence super Bowl champions. We bring you the 10 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: recent storylines and talk through this Dallas Cowboys offseason. Heck, 11 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: you got a big smile on your face. You have 12 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: a good Mother's Day weekend? Why are you laughing? I 13 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: don't even know that now? Is that it's gonna be 14 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: a laugh? Is that what you're going with here? Coyle Man, listen. 15 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for the before and after a picture 16 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: of a child star, but that's what you look like 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: right now, a child star. You look like McCulloch Culkin 18 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: after the Fame, post post home, Malone mccullar, Oh God, Kyle, 19 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Kyle I'm good with it, man, I okay, I'm like, 20 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: it's it's been like eight weeks of quarantine. I've got 21 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: like a mullet working back here like it's business and 22 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: and it's like you just can't. I gotta do something myself. 23 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: So hey, Kyle, Kyle, I'm actually disappointment. I thought you's 24 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna come to the dark side with drizz man, but 25 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, I like to I don't know if I 26 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: could even I don't think it was long enough first off, 27 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: to even try that, And second off, I probably would 28 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: have gotten maybe one of those sit down talks from 29 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: either my bosses or my family saying you gotta look 30 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: at your life here. Yeah, you gotta have the intervention. 31 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fair. Now, Isaiah, you called me Forrest 32 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Gump off the air, and I don't know if it's 33 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber or Forrest Gump better. I don't know. It 34 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: looked like you was ready to run somewhere, So I 35 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just going on what I see, you know, 36 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm he just happens to be actually right, yeah, exact 37 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: more aerodynamic. Tell everybody that's what it is. That's what 38 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm trying to get it all slim down 39 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: so that tomorrow's half marathon for Ceedee Lamb is much 40 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: more enjoyable. I guess if a half mile I can 41 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: be enjoyable. Now tell him why you are doing the 42 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: half mile? You don't just know, don't just yeah, it's 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: glaze over that bro you lost. So basically, yeah, that's 44 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: pretty much what it was. It was a tweet for 45 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: those of you who haven't seen it on Twitter, well 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: before the draft. About a month before the draft, I 47 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: tweeted or somebody asked me a question and was asking 48 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: if it's possible that Ceedee Lamb falls with the Cowboys. 49 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I love Ceedee Lamb, and the fact that he even 50 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: fell down that far was so far fetched to me 51 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: that I said, if he does fall to seventeen and 52 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys select him, I'll run to the Star and 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: back from my apartment in a little elm. Well that's 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: what I'm doing tomorrow, which just so happens to be 55 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: about thirteen point four miles. So I'm getting started right 56 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: around ten o'clock and I'm gonna head head down. It's 57 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: actually downhill there, but it's uphill back, which is probably 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. So it'll be interesting. I'm not 59 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: a runner, so that's what makes this thing tough for 60 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: all thee runners out there. I respect you more than 61 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: ever now that I'm having to try and do this 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and not hurt myself is pretty much the biggest thing. 63 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm gona do like I do my wife Beuh every 64 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: year she runs in the New York City Marathon. I'm 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna take I'm gonna take mental rips with you the 66 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: entire time. Nice. I like that, the quality mental reps, 67 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: and I thank you. And David Hellman said the same 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: thing yesterday. He quote tweeted my What I said was, oh, 69 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing it on Wednesday, and he quote tweeted it 70 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and said, I'm here for this. And so I said, 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: how are you running it with me? And he just said, no, 72 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm not running with you. He's like, no, you're crazy. 73 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm not running it with you at all. But enough 74 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: about the haircut and a half marathon for betting or 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: losing a bet against myself. Some recent storylines around the 76 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys over the past week. Of course, the schedule 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: was released on Thursday, and the Cowboys open up against 78 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They'll open up that beautiful billion 79 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: dollars Stadium and Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles as they 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: take on the Rams Thanksgiving, it's the Washington Redskins, which 81 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: seems to be familiar territory ten times. It's the tenth 82 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: time that those two teams will meet on that holiday. 83 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: But we've kind of looked through the schedule. Everybody's done 84 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: their predictions win loss, win loss, all the way through, 85 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: and that's kind of the go to when you see 86 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: a schedule. But I want to take a different angle 87 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: at the schedule release and kind of look deeper into 88 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: what it could bring once we get past Thanksgiving and 89 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: get into the meat of that playoff hunt run. Because 90 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: it seems like over the last couple of years it 91 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: has come down to a game either in Philly or 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: New York, it doesn't matter. It comes down to a 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: big time game later on. So let's look at some 94 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: of the NFC stretch. Now I mentioned after Thanksgiving. So 95 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: they play Washington week twelve Thanksgiving, and then you turn around, 96 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you go to Baltimore a Thursday after that on the 97 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: road Thursday Night Football against Lamar and Jackson and the Ravens. 98 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Then you're at the Bengal so back to back cold 99 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: weather games Baltimore since in Addie on the road in 100 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: open weather stadiums in December. Then you return home take 101 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: on the forty nine Ers and the Eagles before you 102 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: close out on the road against the Giants, and that's 103 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: actually a January game on the road at MetLife Stadium 104 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: against the Giants. So just initial thoughts, guys on the 105 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: stretch run for the Cowboys and what it could mean 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: to them whenever they're trying to get that NSC East 107 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: crown back from those Eagles. Well, I mean, it looks 108 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: tough on paper that final stretch, but it always does. 109 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: I swear every year. It's like I go to December 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: right away because they always put and it's not just 111 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they put the Vision games in that final 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: month to make the race meaningful. But then when you 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: look at this season too, you're talking about the two 114 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: best records in the league, basically throwing the Saints too 115 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: in Baltimore and the forty nine Ers. So but again 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: it's on paper, and you really can't look at last 117 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: year's records and say, well, it's a tough schedule for sure, 118 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: because look, last December, the Rams came to town and 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: we were saw that schedule back in April and said, 120 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: that's a that's a monster matchup that they're gonna lose 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: that one. Potentially they won by thirty three at home, 122 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: so you just you never know you might have a 123 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: game like that, and you're probably gonna have a Jets 124 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: game in there somewhere too. It's just it's it's really 125 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: impossible to tell. It doesn't make it any less fun 126 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: to talk about, though. Yeah, I absolutely love the schedule 127 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: when I saw it come out, and I thought it 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: was pretty weird for the folks that were saying that 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: we had the third easiest schedule in the NFL, and 130 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I know that's based off of last year's wins and losses, 131 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: but it's very interesting at from the beginning, the rubber 132 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: meets the road for the Cowboys. When you talk about 133 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: the Rams at home Atlanta and at and T Stadium 134 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: and then out to Seattle, those are teams that when 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: you look at the end of the season, teams that 136 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: are in the hunt for a wild cart or a division, 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: they're always there. So, like I said, the rubber meets 138 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: the road immediately. I know I went to December as well, 139 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Rob to look at that little stretch that I'm sure 140 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. But man, the Cowboys have 141 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a very diverse schedule and they're gonna be able to 142 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: play a lot of different schemes and some really tough teams. Absolutely, 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I agree both of you guys, and I hear what 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: people are saying about the easiest schedule, but I don't 145 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: like it. I do not like this schedule for the Boys, 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: especially kicking off in that brand new stadium with those Rams. 147 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: They had a disappointing year. Obviously, I think those boys 148 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: are gonna come out smoking. I don't like us against Atlanta. 149 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're home against Atlanta, so that's that's beneficial. 150 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: And obviously everybody everybody knows about Seattle. So I feel 151 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: like it's like, you know, you know, high week, you know, 152 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: we're we have really confidence, high confidence, and then you 153 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: drop down it's like, oh crap, we gotta face these dudes, 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna be tested. I think I 155 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: think the whole year is gonna be tested. It's really 156 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: like a roller coaster over a year, especially that last 157 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: stretch right that last stretch is tough. That whole second 158 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: half of the season is tough. You got Pittsburgh, Minnesota, 159 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: yeah whatever, Baltimore, Yeah, you know it. So it's like, 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta Baltimore, then you come down and 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: you got to play Cincinnati, and then you gotta go 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: back and play San Francisco, and then you got Phi Leagues, 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, in New York. So it's we're gonna see 164 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: exactly with this mental toughness that we've be talking about 165 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: with a past few weeks. We're gonna see exactly where 166 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: we stand with that, because this schedule is testing for 167 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: sure well. And I think if you look at that 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: stretch when you talk about Pittsburgh and then Minnesota, Luckily 169 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: there's a bye week in between there because you get 170 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of that that extra rest after you 171 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: know it's going to be a battle against Pittsburgh and 172 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna travel up north and you're gonna 173 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: take on Minnesota. But whenever you look at those those 174 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: final five games, let's just say that the fact that 175 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: you you finished things off with Baltimore San Francisco two 176 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: out of those first three out of the last five, 177 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: rather our playoff contenders super Bowl contenders. When you want 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: to look at it that way, and then you have 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: two divisional opponents to round out the season. What does 180 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: that do for a team that doesn't want to look 181 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: ahead but kind of needs to whenever you get into 182 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: that Isaiah Man, Yeah, you can't look ahead when you 183 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: can't do it. I mean, they can't afford to do it. 184 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: I think there's only one stretch that I feel really 185 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: confident about in terms of us right now, and that's 186 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: really you know, games four or five, six, seven. You know, 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: like that stretch right there allows for us to really 188 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: get our feet up underneath us and get ahead so 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: that we can afford to possibly take some ills along 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: along the road. Right But as you're pretending to that 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: last stretch, it's tough, you know, when you have those 192 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: division games. I mean that's three in a row. You know, 193 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: you got you got, you got three NFC teams in 194 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: a row that you're gonna have to deal with, and 195 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: and they're all dogs, you know, Cincinnati. You know, it 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: might be in the sense of a you know, if 197 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: people want to refer to certain things as somewhat of 198 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: a bye week obviously with them coming off of that 199 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: rough year. But San Francisco, Philly, New York, nothing about 200 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: that makes you feel comfortable or confident, and as an organization, 201 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: as a team, you're simply looking at that week because 202 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. You can't look in the future. 203 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: If you find yourself looking too far in the future, 204 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose it, lose the current. So um they 205 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: got they have to be ready to roll. You absolutely 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: can't look in the future. The team started off three 207 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: and out last year and might have started looking ahead 208 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: and it didn't turn out so good for them. But 209 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: I will say, Kyle, I mean, and we'll probably get 210 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: into this. If you look at the other teams in 211 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the nfcast, the schedules are obviously very similar. You play 212 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: the same outside divisions, and it's not easy for the Eagles, 213 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Redskins or Giants either down the stretch. So, like Isaiah said, 214 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to get your wins early. 215 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: And there is that stretch there where they've got three 216 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: straight home games in October, and that's that's huge. You know, 217 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: the last time they had that was twenty eighteen. They 218 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: won all three with the Maari Cooper after they made 219 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: that big deal and found themselves winning the division. So 220 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of the breaks that come 221 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: your way in the schedule too. Yeah, that's that's a 222 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: tremendous opportunity for the Cowboys to exact the dominance in 223 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: the NFL early with those matchups. I mean just talking 224 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Browns and what they're going to represent 225 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: on you know, on the offense and defensive matchups for 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But I look at the matchups in this schedule, 227 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the coaching matchup for coach McCarthy, who's basically hitting the 228 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: reset button on his career, but he's going up against 229 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: some guys like McVeigh, Zimmer, you know, the Tomlins, the Hardballs. 230 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a bunch of great coaches and 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: also for Dak in those head to head matchups in 232 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: the season and the schedule, and so you know, look, 233 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: we've been talking about it, and we know that there's 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: going to be a culture change here in Dallas with 235 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, but it's going to have to start immediately 236 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: in order for these guys to survive just the first 237 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: quarter of their season. So, like I said, I look 238 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: at this, and I look at the fact that you know, 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: with this COVID nineteen and Mike McCarthy not being able 240 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: to put his imprint early on this team. Man, this 241 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: just heightens what two of days in those preseason games. 242 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: And I know that we may be dealing with an 243 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: abbreviated version of the preseason games, but those games are 244 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: are important now more than ever, no doubt, and they 245 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: wonder wonderful. One thing that I don't one thing I 246 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: don't want to blow by, especially as as a former player, 247 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: that bye week and when that bye week occurs is 248 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: so important. Oh yeah, this is this is perfect. I mean, 249 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: this is the absolute best scenario that you could possibly have. 250 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Some teams have their bye week and what week four, 251 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, four, week five, It is like you have 252 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: another you know, twelve, twelve, thirteen games to run after that. 253 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: So um there and they should be super happy, especially 254 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: after this stretch that they have to face on whether 255 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: they're bye week being danging their smack dab in the 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: middle of the season, which is awesome. Yeah, Detroit and 257 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay have the first bye weeks out of the NFL, 258 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: and both of those come in Week five. I would 259 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: not have won five bye week by any means, and 260 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: I feel sorry, honestly for the Lions and for the 261 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Packers in that regard. Now, Rob, you kind of alluded 262 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: it to it a little bit earlier as you were 263 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: looking ahead. But the the NFC East down the stretch, 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys might have gotten a better draw down the 265 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: stretch than some of these other squads. And we'll let 266 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you guys decide this. I'm gonna read them off. Really, 267 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: the Giants have the Seahawks on the road, Cardinals, Browns 268 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: at home, Ravens on the road. Then they close, of 269 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: course with the Cowboys. That's their final five games. Philadelphia 270 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: in their final five at Green Bay versus New Orleans 271 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: back to back weeks. That's twelve or that's thirteen and fourteen. 272 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Then you've got at Arizona at Dallas of course, and 273 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: then they close out at home against the Washington Redskins. 274 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: And then oh, I like that. I like that. That's schedule. 275 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: And then for Washington it's at Pittsburgh at San Francisco 276 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: home versus the Seahawks, then Carolina at home, and then 277 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: on the road against Philadelphia. So the Redskins no favors 278 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: at the end either. But out of those four teams 279 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: out of the NFC East, did the Cowboys actually have 280 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: maybe the easiest draw out of those four as it's 281 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: up to the side. Heckman is laughing for a reason. 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't think Philly's draw looks too good. No, no, 283 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys isn't great, but every everybody in 284 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the division has to play the forty nine Ers and 285 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens at some point. And Mickey Spagnola's got his 286 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: own podcast now on this network, but I used to 287 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: argue with him all the time, Oh, first play, schedule 288 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They all play the same teams. Now Philly's 289 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: got to play Green Bay in New Orleans, and there's 290 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: a difference in having to play those two quarterbacks not 291 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: having to play yea, sir, No, that's a That's a 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: tough schedule down the stretch. And you know, for us, man, 293 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: it's always been December. Like you said, Rob, when you 294 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: look at the schedule, you just want to look and 295 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: see what we have for December, because we had that 296 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: December cloud hanging over our head. It looks as though, 297 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, even when you look at our schedule, it 298 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: gets really funky right there towards the end, from November 299 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: first all the way to December twenty seven with the 300 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Vikings. But man, the Saints Green Bay, 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: oh Man Boo Eagles. Absolutely, yeah, No, I mean obviously 302 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: we can look at the other teams all day long 303 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: and see what they have to face. I mean, ultimately, 304 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, the count ways have a lot that they 305 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: have to bear it this year. Um, you know obviously, 306 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and we we've talked about all these things, right, new coach, 307 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: new regime, new offense, new defense, everything. So you know, 308 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: as as we always do, when you want the other 309 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: teams in your division obviously to take the ales, especially 310 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: down the road. But like we you know, these guys 311 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: got to win some games. Man, they have to win 312 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: them earlier, but I earlier, and hopefully we can get 313 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: stay healthy too. I Saiah, let me ask you this now, 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: when you look at those matchups like for our team 315 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: versus those AFC North opponents like Pittsburgh and Baltimore, what 316 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: is that gonna do for us as a team potentially 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs coming against those edgy in those 318 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: tough teams like Baltimore San Francisco even I think it 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: does a great gym in terms of preparing you for 320 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: what you're gonna face, because playoff football is a whole 321 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: other level as we all as we all know, right, 322 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: So playoff football levels up about ten times or whatever 323 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: speed you think regular gameplay is. It is literally ten 324 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: times faster and every play matter. So when you're playing 325 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: these greedy teams, you know, these teams that you know 326 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: you can have a lot of these guys that you 327 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: know that have a little edge to them. Right, we're 328 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: talk about the Baltimore, you talk about Minnesota. At this part, 329 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be in a dog fight all 330 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: three of those teams, right, A FC's nasty, So you 331 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna be in a dog fight. 332 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: So it prepares you for that stretch, right, it prepares 333 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: you for that stretch and what you're gonna endure going 334 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: for because like we talked about, you know you got Pittsburgh, Minnesota, 335 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: all right, those teams are you got to get your 336 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: mind right, all right, Washington, it's always a rivalry game, 337 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: so you know whatever. But then you got Baltimore, right, 338 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: you got you gotta go to Baltimore. Right, it's gonna 339 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: be cold them you got hardball out there, you got 340 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: them dogs out the Earl Cats I played with, I 341 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: mean there, I mean you have to be be serious, right, 342 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: be ready to roll and then you come back, you know, 343 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: to you know, Cincinnati, and then like I said, we 344 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: have that last three stretch, so that's gonna prepare you. 345 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: Hopefully that launches you in that competitive edge going into 346 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: that final stretch and then transition to straight into the playoffs. Now, 347 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, is Rob Well just piggyback and on what 348 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah said for a couple of weeks now the whole 349 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: mental toughness thing that that is so true when you're 350 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: talking about trying to navigate a schedule, because just the 351 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: longer I cover this team in the league, when I 352 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: see the schedule come out every year, I can look 353 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: at it two ways. I could say, oh damn, they 354 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: can win every game on the schedule, jump out the game. 355 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: It's just that just that just speaks to the parody 356 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: in the league. And and when you talk, when you 357 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: talk to people around the team, the biggest thing for 358 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: them is how to win close games. And they did 359 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: They did it two years ago. They did not do 360 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: it last year. And when things weren't going their way, 361 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: it kind of had a snowball effect at times last year. 362 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to the mental toughness. Isaiah 363 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: talks about you got to be able to bounce back. 364 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: And and that's if they can find a way to 365 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: win close games this year, they're gonna be just fine. 366 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: And but how do they do that? You know, and 367 00:18:50,200 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: that that's gonna be the difference. Okay, uh yeah, we lost, 368 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: we lost Kyle's mike. But you know, I think what's 369 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: also important about this this season is what's going to 370 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: be the identity of this group. Guys. You know when 371 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: you talk about and I said, you know and Rob, 372 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: you guys know this for sure that towards the end 373 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: of every sea, every season, a team has an identity. Well, 374 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna have to have their identity immediately 375 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: in order to compete and not put themselves behind the 376 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: eight ball in this schedule because of the good teams 377 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: that they have on the schedule. Absolutely, yeah, these guys 378 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: are gonna figure it out. They're gonna have to figure 379 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: it out asac right, Like you're like you're pertaining to 380 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: so I mean, right off the bat, you know, this 381 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: team is going to be tested greater than they ever 382 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: have been, right because everything that they're already coming into 383 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the season with right the restricted you know, preparation, you know, 384 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: with the COVID nineteen stuff. You know our guys in shape, right, Um, 385 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: do guys have enough time to absorb this new this 386 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: this new system. You know, all the young guys, can 387 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: they catch up? Right? Can they catch up and get 388 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: ready for what's gonna what's gonna be expected of them, 389 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: especially some of these these big name guys like CD 390 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: and such. Um. And then you go straight to a 391 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: brand new stadium and one of the most populated cities 392 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: that it's gonna that place is gonna be flooded, right, 393 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: and you gotta face freaking and Aaron Donald and golf 394 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: and you know, and then you know, and then it's like, okay, shoot, 395 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: if I survived that, then I come back home. We're 396 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: going home and guess what going it? We got Matt 397 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Ryan coming in right, So, so I mean it's you're 398 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: like you said, you're gonna be tested, you know those 399 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: first three games. He's gonna be like, who who do 400 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: we have? Do we have some dogs in the locker room? 401 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, we know we got a dog at coach, 402 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: but do we have some dogs in the locker room? 403 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: It's this team gonna come together? Are we gonna use 404 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: you know this COVID nineteen stuff as, Oh, we didn't 405 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: have enough time to prepare, they didn't have enough time 406 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: to to to bond, and nobody wants to hear we 407 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: got we got, we gotta work. We gotta get every 408 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: teams dealing with it. Yeah. Yeah, And then whenever you 409 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: get down the stretch, you have an opportunity to look 410 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: at some of those other teams that have gone through 411 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: some of those mental obstacles and even physical too. I mean, 412 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: you look at Philadelphia. You mentioned it, Rob They have 413 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: to play Green Bay this year. They played him last 414 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: year on the road and beat Green Bay. One of 415 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: the big reasons why that happened. Davante Adams is hurt, 416 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: and I know there's always that next man of mentality, 417 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: and there's always the rollover with injuries and whatnot, and 418 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: you've got to still win games without injured players, but 419 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: it still plays a factor as to who you are 420 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: as a football team, and that's something that the Cowboys 421 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: have looked at in the past. So we've kind of 422 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: gone through this schedule a little bit. 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Happy Mother's Day, Late Mother's Day 472 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: to all of those out there and guys. We kind 473 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: of took up that first segment talking about the schedule 474 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: release and some of the implications on that NFC some 475 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: other storylines coming out of this past week. The Cowboys 476 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: did go out and sign Cam Irving one year, two 477 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: point five million dollars, and then he has an opportunity 478 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: to earn some incentives up to a quarter million dollars 479 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: depending on his play here in twenty twenty overtakes maybe 480 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Night as that swing tackle spot and replaces the departed. 481 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm blanking on a name here. Who was 482 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: the swimming tackle that Cam flaming? I'm sorry, I'm almost 483 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: said Cam Irving, even though it's Sam flaming that he's 484 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: replaced whatever moving forward as the swing tame available Cam. Yeah, 485 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: best available Cam. How about that. Let's just throw that 486 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: out there. But he was up there blocking for Patrick 487 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes in twenty nineteen with the Kansas City Chiefs and 488 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Rob what do you feel like this does for that 489 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: offensive line? Because it gives you a little bit extra 490 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: depth at the tackle spot, but it also gives you 491 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: a guy who could play interior offensive line if you 492 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: don't like the battle that's going on there. Yeah, versatility's big, 493 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: I think based on what he did last year. Though 494 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: you said it, swing tackle is one of the honestly, 495 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, it is one of the 496 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: most glaring needs they had left potentially. I know they 497 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: like Brandon Night, but when you're talking about an offseason 498 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: that we just talked about, truncated workouts and all that 499 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, I think having an experienced guy if 500 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: you've got to move things up and you don't have 501 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of practice time. Uh. In Irving, I think 502 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a good get. Eight game started 503 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: at left tackle for the Chiefs last year, and yeah, 504 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: you could play a couple of different spots. I think 505 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: he's played some center too, So you know, having a 506 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: guy is on your backup lining pretty much play anywhere 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: and has played a lot of football. I think that's good. Yeah, 508 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: that's that's what we needed. And like you said, uh Rob, 509 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: before the before the draft, that swing tackle was something 510 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: that we were eyeball and now we get it with 511 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: that veteran. With the veteran guy has obviously championship pedigree 512 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: and winning the Super Bowl in Kansas City, and so 513 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. I believe the depth at the 514 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: offensive line, you know that we're gonna these guys are 515 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna be fighting it out, especially at the center and 516 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: guard uh position. But with the new CBA, I do 517 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: believe that the Cowboys are gonna be able to carry 518 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: eight uh offensive lineman on this the the on the 519 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: on the roster, is that correct? I believe they are 520 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: required to carry eight is what I think it is. 521 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: And you have your your five starters that everybody kind 522 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: of goes for and knows about, and then you've also 523 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: got those backup potentials. Whenever you talk about whoever loses 524 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: the Connor McGovern, Connor Williams and Joe Looney battle. And 525 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: then you also have I think you look at the 526 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: contract for Cam Irving here and I think it shows 527 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: that he's expected to be on the roster. He's expected 528 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: to be that swing tackle, and you need a guy 529 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: like that because Tyrn smiss missed three games in twenty nineteen, 530 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: He's missed games in the past couple of years. And 531 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: then on the other side, you've got Lyell Collins who 532 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: missed a game last year, and I know he's been 533 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: probably the most significant part of that offensive line, maybe 534 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: outside of Zack Martin, but he's gonna miss some games 535 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, so Cam's gonna be active 536 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: for sure to be Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, 537 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars, you're playing, Yeah, you're 538 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: probably gonna be. You're probably gonna be playing quite a bit. 539 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Now that kind of leads us into though, the on 540 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: the other side of the football, the defensive line, Alden's 541 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Smith apparently meeting with Roger Goodell. Now this isn't confirmed, 542 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: but Stephen Jones didn't mention it on Pro Football Talk 543 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: with Mike Florio yesterday and or excuse me, earlier this week, 544 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and I see the positives of Alden Smith meeting with 545 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. But is there any way that this could 546 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: be a negative rob in terms of the hope for 547 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: reinstatement for both Smith and then also Randy Gregory. No, 548 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Ka. I think that's just part 549 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: of the process. Okay, guys trying to get back in 550 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the league, and from the Cowboys experience with Randy, it's 551 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: been a face to face meeting with Roger. And then 552 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: there's a time frame for when Roger gets back to 553 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the NFL makes his decision. So you know, 554 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: you hope it's something. It's a it's a window that 555 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: they get a decision before training camp whenever that starts. 556 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think it's just part of the process. 557 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: And uh, and we'll see what happens. I mean, the Cowboys, 558 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, they don't have a feeling either way. But 559 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I think obviously there's hope if they went out and 560 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: signed Alvin Smith, that that there's a possibility. You know, 561 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Jay Glazers, a well respected reporter around the league that 562 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: has been working out with Alvin Smith and and maybe 563 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: that's something in Commissioner Goodells, you know, looking into the 564 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: case or his situation. Uh, he'll take that into account 565 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: because that's everything we've heard has been very positive about 566 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: his recovery. Yeah, I think this is just a status check. 567 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, Rogier Gidel wants to get eyes on exactly 568 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: the individual that you know, you hear so much about you. 569 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: You've heard about all the negative, but you know he 570 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: wants to give this young man opportunity to sit down 571 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: and say, hey, let me see what your character is 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: right now. You know I'm not going gonna throw you 573 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: back out there. Um, you know, I just want to 574 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: evaluate a face to face what I'll any hearsay as 575 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: to where you're at right now and make my own judgment, 576 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: and then what'll reconvene and see, um, if you're ready 577 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: to touch the field again and represent this shield. Just 578 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: a straight formality is really what it is. As U. 579 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: You gotta have to go through that process. You gotta 580 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: get in front of the commissioner and hope everything works out, 581 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: because if Smith and Gregory are reinstated, all of a sudden, 582 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: that right defensive indspot isn't as much of a hole 583 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: as it is, maybe even a surplus of guys with 584 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: now the fifth round draft pick and Bradley and I 585 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: also being added into the mix. But that wasn't the 586 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: only thing that Stephen Jones talked to Mike Florio about 587 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend. And I'm interested to see what Isaiah 588 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: has to say about this one as a former quarterback 589 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: and also as a former player in the league in general, 590 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: and then also Rob as an insider and heckmas Our 591 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Swiss Army Knife. I want to see what you guys 592 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: think about what Stephen Jones said on Floria or with 593 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: Florio about Dak Prescott and the contract negotiations. Now, he 594 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: made it abundantly clear they still want to pay Dak 595 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Prescott and they want to get a deal done. They're 596 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: not going to rescind that franchise tag. However, he did 597 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: come out and say that, I mean, it's kind of 598 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: what we all know. It's the fact of if you 599 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: put too much money in one position, especially your quarterback, 600 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: it really hinders the rest of your roster. What kind 601 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: of angle is this taking in terms of your negotiations, 602 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: because the Joneses have been known to negotiate in public, 603 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: What does this do and what is this insight into 604 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: how the negotiations are going right now? Well, it's a 605 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: loaded question. It is definitely a loaded question. And I 606 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: can tell you right now, Dak Prescott is watching Jerry 607 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: require to talk about showing me the money. So right 608 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: now they need to pay this dude. I mean, they 609 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: need to pay them, and you're not You're not helping 610 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: yourself now or in the future. Um, you know they're 611 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: not going to resend an offer. Okay, nobody really resents 612 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: a franchise tag offer until a franchise quarterback, it doesn't happen. 613 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: So making that statement does nothing for anybody, right, So 614 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna play underneath that franchise tag most likely. But 615 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: you know you paid You paid your receiver twenty million 616 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: a year, right, like you paid your receiver twenty million 617 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: a year. So you're not willing to at this point 618 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: in time, not willing to double that up and pay 619 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: the man who gets him the ball, right. You know, 620 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to fathom in and I 621 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: think that Stephen right now in camp have really they 622 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: threw it on his shoulders there they're there. They kind 623 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: of threw him under the bus a little bit because 624 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: they know what what Cowboys fans want, right, Cowboys fans 625 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: won a championship. That is number one, right, it's the 626 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: most highly touted, you know, team in the league, in 627 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: the world, and they know that the pressures from everybody 628 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: else is going to affect his ability to make sound decisions, 629 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: possibly right if he doesn't have the right camp. So 630 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: put it on his shoulders saying hey, you know, you 631 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: know the analytics show that if you pay your quarterback 632 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: too much, then your team success rate goes down. Man, 633 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: that's that's BS, that's BS. We're not in that world. 634 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: We're not Tom Brady. Nobody's Tom Brady. The only reason why, 635 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Tom Brady has has just just changed everything. Right, 636 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: he's the curveball, right, He's taking less money for a 637 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: number of years to ensure that they have that they 638 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: have a you know, super Bowl championship team. So that's different. 639 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, these cats are young. You know, they've seen 640 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of ownership in the past not treat players 641 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: so well. Right, Um, so you have to go out, 642 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: you get one opportunity really in your career to get 643 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: that big boy contract and get that guarantee money. And 644 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I really think that's what it comes down to, is 645 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: what's those guarantees numbers? Looking like, we haven't hurting anything. 646 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: We don't know anything for sure, but I can almost 647 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: assure you that it's all about the guarantee money. Yeah, 648 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: you know what we've been talking about. How the reports 649 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: say it could be the length of the deal is 650 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: the biggest hold up. But I'm with Isaiah, I wonder 651 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: if it's more still about dollars and trying to figure 652 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: that out based on you know, because Stephen's talking about. Honestly, 653 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: what Stephen said to me is no different than what 654 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: he said the past couple of years about under contracts 655 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: they've tried to get done. I mean, you know, talking 656 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: about dividing the pie and trying to create a deep 657 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: enough roster top to bottom to be successful. I honestly, 658 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: I've said this before. I think both sides are right. 659 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, Steven's right, like in the in the today's 660 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: NFL the parody, you've got to be able to have 661 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: a deep roster that can be fielded one to fifty five, 662 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: one to fifty three, whatever it is now, and so 663 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: how do you how do you navigate that with these 664 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: top players that you have. At the same time, Dak 665 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: Prescott is he's a player and he's trying to get 666 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: as much money as he can and maximize his earning 667 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: potential while he can't, especially given the first four years 668 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: of his career at his position what he was making. 669 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: So you can't fault him for that. But you also 670 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: can't fault the Cowboys for trying to figure it out. 671 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, what's what's the best way to divide it 672 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: all up. But ultimately, I don't, I don't really sweat it. 673 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we've gone down this road with DeMarcus 674 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: and Zeke, and ultimately it always gets done. So we'll see. 675 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't. I don't sweat it too much. 676 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: Heck no, you know what, I actually watched the entire 677 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: interview and I didn't take anything from what When he 678 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: made the comment about analytics, that didn't seem like verbal 679 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: sparring to me through the media for Steve and Jones, 680 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: I just felt as though he was he was, you know, 681 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: basically stating a truth that all thirty two teams are 682 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: dealing with. But they I mean, it wouldn't matter to 683 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: Green Bay if they went to the Super Bowl and 684 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: Rogers making them money. They want to shatter that statistic anyway. 685 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: Analytics are not Dak Prescott is homegrown. He's our quarterback. 686 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: If you've been a Cowboy fan long enough to see 687 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: they go through those years of having really horrible or 688 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: borderline quarterbacks, we got our guy. I mean, he's our 689 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: guy that we that the Joneses bench Tony Romo for. 690 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: You know. So I don't see this as a point 691 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: of saying, Okay, sign this or else. I didn't take 692 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: it like that one way or another. Dak Prescott is 693 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna come into this season two ways. He's gonna be 694 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the NFL, or he's gonna 695 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: be amongst the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL with 696 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: the franchise to either way, he's gonna be a Dallas Cowboy. 697 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: And so, I mean, I think that the NFL and 698 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: I think that the Cowboys do a really great job 699 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: of owning the off season to keep our name in 700 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: your mouth. Everybody's talking about Dak Prescott in this contract 701 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: except for Dak and his representatives. And so I find 702 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: it very interesting because we don't know what's on the table, 703 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: and we keep speculating about it. But at the same time, 704 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: no matter if it's the years, if it's the money, 705 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: all of it benefits the Cowboys in the end. Well, 706 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: and I think go for it. No, I was gonna say, 707 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. Heck and I and I 708 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: totally agree with you Rob as well. That you know 709 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: this is you know that he made some good points 710 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: in analytics. He's not wrong, you know, and you know 711 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: obviously Dak has his time span, he wants to do 712 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: things in But I take offense to it as a 713 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: as a player because as the leader of this organization now, right, 714 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: which is we can all we can all wrest sure 715 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: that he's the leader of this organization now in terms 716 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: as a player, you you did other deals before me, right, 717 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: It was like like you made these other deals happen. 718 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: And now I'm sitting back and I'm being asked right 719 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: to take less than what I really want simply because 720 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: oh there's not enough money and now we have to 721 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: save money? Right? Where was where were you save money conversations? 722 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: Save money conversations when when you know when cool paid, 723 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: So like, it's not not the conversation, it's the time 724 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: the conversation. Right, These conversations are happening after the money 725 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: has already been handed out to these other camps who 726 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 1: are very valuable players. But guess what, these guys really 727 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: don't do much unless I'm taking care of my business, right, 728 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: So that's where an issue lies, right, and I'm and 729 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm again, we're all assuming, right, But if it was me, 730 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: I would be up up in the air a little 731 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: bit in terms of, you know, me being the last 732 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: guy to get paid. About it? Now, all of a sudden, 733 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: now we've got to budget, now, Isaiah, I want to 734 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate here. You're talking about adding these other 735 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: players and putting money elsewhere. You put the money into 736 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: Marii Cooper. You put your draft stock into taking Cedee 737 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Lamb in the first round rather than maybe going with 738 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: Calavon Chason and an edge rusher. You went with these 739 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: different moves. Could you use that as, hey, we're giving 740 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: you weapons with these are gifts for you to be 741 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: successful because we think that, hey, if you've got this 742 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: around you, you're a Super Bowl contending quarterback. That's what 743 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: we're doing for you. Now it's time to maybe give 744 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: back here. What are your thoughts around that, because it 745 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: seems like at least over the courts of the offseason, 746 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: they've done their job in terms of protecting Dak and 747 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: giving him plenty of weapons in order to try and 748 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: be successful, you know what. And I appreciate and I 749 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: value your point. But then again come back to timing, right, 750 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: who did they who? Who did they just sign at 751 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: his position? That's true, Right, nobody's seeing him as a threat. 752 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: And I don't see him as a threat either. But 753 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: guess what he is a what if? Right? What if 754 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: this doesn't go the way that we wanted to What 755 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: if you don't get your way, or what if you 756 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: throw a fit and you don't want to sign this 757 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: tenor guess what? We got somebody that can step in 758 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: and do your No, no, no, I'm saying, I'm just 759 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying it might it may 760 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: not be the way. It might not happen that way, 761 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: But the worst case scenario, they can do that. Right, 762 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: that's not I mean to me, even drawing that scenario 763 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: isn't realistic because the Cowboys have groomed Dack to this 764 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: point and you don't get you don't groom a quarterback 765 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: and get to the time that you have to sign 766 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: this guy and throw them to the wolves. This this 767 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: is the time that we know. Look, we've owned the offseason, 768 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: all of this speculation. Really, guys, July the fifteenth is 769 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: where we gotta wait on all this, right because if 770 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: nothing happens in between now and July fifteenth, then we 771 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: can hit the panic button. Then we can start talking 772 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: about disrespect. But all of this is just speculative. I mean, look, 773 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: and here's the thing. Dak went from being a fourth 774 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: round guy to now being the face of a franchise, 775 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: a marketing name that's out there. I mean, the advertising 776 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: dollars are coming in. All of that has nothing to 777 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: do with the contract that the Cowboys are gonna get 778 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: him give him. But at the same time, every throw 779 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: that Dak makes this season is gonna be under the microscope. 780 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: If he bet on himself last year, he's gonna have 781 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: to bet on himself again. He's gonna have to That's 782 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a tremendous amount of pressure on him to succeed, 783 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: all right, and that microscope is going to be hot 784 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: and right under him. Every quarterback that he has on 785 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: the schedule, I mean, Jared Goff, Russell Wilson, also Matt Ryan, 786 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: big Ben, Roethlisberger, all of these guys, all his contemporaries, 787 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: these are guys that he that have made more money 788 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 1: than him, and he's wanting to make more money than them. 789 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: He gets an opportunity to go out and show it, 790 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: just like everybody else did. And I don't think Dak 791 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: Prescott wants to bet on himself again. I don't think 792 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: he wants to go into another contract year, whether it's 793 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: on the franchise tag or whatever. He wants the long 794 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: term deal, which is why ultimately I sit on the 795 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: side of the fence that I think it's going to 796 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: get done. A lot of people forget that with the 797 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: NFL Draft and all of the production and all the 798 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: work that goes into getting and leading up into a draft, 799 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: it takes away time from the contract negotiations and things 800 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: like that, and I think that was one of the cases. 801 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: And then also the terribly tragic passing of his brother 802 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: kind of put a hold on it. After the draft, 803 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: you're not going to see those conversations as you would 804 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: normally expect because of the morning and the sad this 805 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: around that, And you got to give him as much 806 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: time as he needs. You gotta give him a ton 807 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: of time. That's something that nobody really wants to bring 808 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: up because it was. It was tragic and it was sad, 809 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: but it also just puts a little bit of a 810 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: hold there. You've got till July fifteenth, Like you said, 811 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: hack Mo, there's plenty of time to get this done. 812 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: But I was asked on we were asked on Twitter 813 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: as a as a group, yes or no? Do you 814 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: think the long term deal gets done with Dak Prescott. 815 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: We'll start with you, hack R. Okay, it's asked me again. 816 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was thinking to ask Rob does he 817 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: think he's worth the money? Well, yeah, if you want 818 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: to go with that, Rob, and I think he's worth 819 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: the money. Rob, you're thinking sign Okay, No, I think 820 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: he's earned a new contract. And I think the Cowboys, Kyle, 821 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: you just said something that you got to. You gotta 822 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: point this out. I mean, I think he didn't bet 823 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: on himself last year. I think that he's definitely something 824 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: done and he decided he wanted to he wanted to 825 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: play it out, and I think he did. I think 826 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: he was right. I mean, he made the Pro Bowl 827 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: and had a good season to try to keep maximizing 828 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: his earning potential. But the Cowboys have been trying to 829 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: get this done. I mean it's it's I think maybe 830 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: that was part of Steven's point, is it's not that 831 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to to delay this. I think you want 832 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: to try to get this done. If anything, I think 833 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: trying to get him done first would have been easier 834 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: because then you could have slotted things around the biggest 835 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: deal on your roster first. Um. But but Isaiah, I'm 836 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: with Isaiah. I mean, I think he's earned, he's earned 837 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: a new contract. And but again I don't I don't 838 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: sweat it. To answer your question, Kyle, yes, I think 839 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: it gets done by July fifteen. The answers yes, The 840 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: answer is yes, Kyle, it gets done before July fifteenth. 841 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: No way they go into two of days with this looming, 842 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: or of the season, with this contract looming. It has 843 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: to get done. And yes, I again, when my brother's 844 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: over there, yes it gets done. But again I am 845 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: to your point where I timing, you know, timing time 846 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: and timing, and and there was a there was a 847 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: there's always a better way that something could have been done, 848 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: and I feel like this should have been. They could 849 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: have really communicated to him, you know the importance of 850 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: him in this organization by making sure that this deal 851 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: got done first, right, and then all the other parts coming, 852 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: but him as the leader of this team, I'm the 853 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: last guy. You know, if we're playing dodgeball, you know 854 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You picked me last. You know, we're 855 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: playing pickup ball, you picked me last. You're telling me 856 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: that I'm your guy, but you're taking care of me last. Right, 857 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: everybody else getting paid up the lineman are getting paid. Say, 858 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: secondary is getting paid. You know it's getting I'm just saying, hey, 859 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm there, but you're But now you're trying to talk 860 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: to me about budgets, you know, analytics, analytics. Yes, yes, 861 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: it gets done, but I like again and he'll be happy, right, 862 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: and nobody will talk about this anymore. But there is 863 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: a better way that this could have been handled in 864 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: the conversations. Aren't that complicated that it couldn't have been 865 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: done a long time ago? Everything is sitting as a message. 866 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: Everything does. I'm still on the side of saying that 867 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: it's less about budge jets and more about years and 868 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: length of deal and things of that sort of wanting 869 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: to have Dak under contract for five years and have 870 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: his rights for five years rather than four. But until 871 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: we know what the negotiations are like, it's kind of 872 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: tough to speculate either way. 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It's 913 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: the final segment here of Talking Cowboys here on this 914 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: cloudy Tuesday morning. Glad you're with us. Kyle Yeoman's Rob Phillips, 915 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back in the grade. Heck my Harrison here 916 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: for talking Cowboys. Before we get into this final segment, 917 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 1: I want to remind you about Main Event and their 918 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: virtual birthdays this season, celebrating the cowboys sixtieth birthdays. And 919 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: we all know that you have birthdays to celebrate as well, 920 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: so our partners at May Event are going to help. 921 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: They have the new platform called Birthday with Me. 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But we can talk about 932 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: all the off field stuff all off season long. I 933 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 1: want to talk about football because I'm a football guy, 934 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about the xs and os. 935 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: So we're going to start a new segment and this 936 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: will be I don't know if this is a weekly thing. 937 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: We might switch it in and out throughout the course 938 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: of the off season, but we're talking xes and os. 939 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask all of our great analysts. You've got 940 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: the Insider and Rob Phillips, you've got a Super Bowl champion, 941 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: and Isaiah swished him in Swiss Army knife over here. 942 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: Swiss Army knife. Heck, but Harrison played by the way 943 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: college ball as well. So we've we've got We've got 944 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: every angle covered here and we can talk about everything 945 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: we can, from access to o's all the way through. 946 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: And our first question actually comes from a fan on Twitter, 947 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: and he said, could the Cowboys use Tony Pollard as 948 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: their Tavon Austin slash fourth wide receiver backup role in 949 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: addition to his duties as a backup running back. And 950 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: Rob will start with you, I hope. So I'd love 951 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: to see that. I mean, I think use him on 952 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: punt returns and then also use him in different ways 953 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. I don't know if he would 954 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: be your full time fourth receiver, but but yes, I 955 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: mean I think his skill set allows for that. A 956 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: guy that can line up in different spots, line up 957 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: in the same backfield as z and and help in 958 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: different ways. The way they used him last year was interesting. 959 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: It was more so, you know, when they had a 960 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: lead and they kind of salted away games with him 961 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But but yes, I think he could 962 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: be more involved as a receiver isah. Yeah, I think 963 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: he could be more involved as well. I don't see 964 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: him being a four time just like Rob said, but 965 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean I can definitely see him coming out of 966 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: the backfield or even just lining up and doing some 967 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: some two man concepts and him kind of just pulling 968 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: some of that underneath coverage. I don't really foresee him 969 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: going down field too much, but him working on linebackers. 970 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: I think he could do that all day, all day long. Yeah, 971 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: he's a He's a package guy. You know, Tony, you 972 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna have the Tony Pollard packages. Before we drafted Ceedee Lamb. 973 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: I think we talked about that a few episodes ago 974 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: about him actually being maybe that guy that to replace 975 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: Cobb is that third receiver in certain packages. Now with 976 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, most of those yards are gone and Ezekiel 977 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: Ellen is gonna need that bona fide backup to give 978 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: you that thunder lightning. And Tony Pollard showed you that 979 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: he has the capacity to take on that load as well. 980 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm excited for a young player like him, 981 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully, you know, the the Cowboys have those different 982 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: packages to keep him involved, but also keeping him involved 983 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: in special teams, just keeping that rhythm goal. With Tony Pollard, 984 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be important. You want to 985 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: get the ball question? Sorry, Kyle, now go for a rub. 986 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: It's just an interesting question though, because you get past 987 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: those top three receivers and it's like it's a lot 988 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: of young guys trying to get those maybe last two 989 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: or three spots. You know. Oh yeah, it's John Day 990 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: Johnson who was on IR last year. It's it's Devin Smith. 991 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: It's I'm trying to Cedric Wilson. Yeah, so you know, 992 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, there's opportunity I think for Tony and 993 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe help in that area. Well, and you look at 994 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: some of the stats that he's had over his career. Now, 995 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: last year was a little bit different. He didn't necessarily, 996 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he was utilized as well as he 997 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: could have been in the passing game. Fifteen receptions, one 998 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards. However, you go back to what 999 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: he did in Memphis. He had at least twenty nine 1000 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: receptions each of his three years as a starter, and 1001 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: he had at almost almost or over three hundred yards 1002 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 1: each season, and he averaged over ten yards per catch. 1003 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: So I think you could absolutely use a guy like 1004 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: that and just get the ball in his hands. That's 1005 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of what I was gonna talk about with Heckma. 1006 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: You want to get your playmaker the ball, and he's 1007 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys who is so lightning quick and 1008 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: so shifty that he could be a playmaker when need be. Yeah, 1009 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: that's you know, like you hit the nail on the 1010 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: head when you talk about what he did at Memphis. 1011 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: He was I mean, they had a running back, they 1012 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: had a guy his full time running back, and Pollard, 1013 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: even though he was a running back, handle most of 1014 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 1: the receiving duties for the running back. So I see 1015 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: him being able to have it already, that skill set there. 1016 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: But Isaiah alluded to it just him in those little 1017 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: small spaces up against a linebacker. I mean, that's a 1018 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: good night, Irene. You know that Tony Pollard is gonna 1019 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: win that battle every time. And so you know the 1020 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys have a good problem. But once Cede Lamb came 1021 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: into the equation, man, those yard, that yard is just shrank. 1022 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. I mean that's what I was gonna contest to. 1023 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: It is just how often do we really you know, 1024 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: I hate this because there's so much talent on every 1025 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: NFL team, right, I mean, I mean you're if you're 1026 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: in the league, you can ball, right, And what happens 1027 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: this guy's like polar get buried and you know they 1028 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: get they get buried. They get buried on rosters and 1029 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 1: they don't get the tick that they need. They don't 1030 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: get the tick that they need in order to develop 1031 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: into the players that they that they should be. And 1032 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: I think this is possibly another one of those scenarios, right, 1033 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you got those three receivers. Those guys aren't 1034 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: coming off the field, right, You got you got a 1035 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,879 Speaker 1: gallup coup and CD. They're not coming off the field. 1036 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: You gotta drawing at you know at tight end he's 1037 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: not coming off the field. You know, then you got Zeke. 1038 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: He's gonna get his touches. So how many touches do 1039 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: you honestly see Polar getting even if you go into 1040 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: a five or five you know, five out, you know set, 1041 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, you know what he's doing. He's running underneath routes. 1042 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: You know if he comes in the game, you know 1043 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: as at running back, is he really tolding the ball 1044 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: that much? Nah? You know, because we bringing Zeke back 1045 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: in so as a defense, you know that he's going 1046 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: to be limited in terms of what they're gonna allow 1047 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: for him to do. So you know, it kind of 1048 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: cuts down his productivity. So I like to kill. I 1049 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: like I think he's I think he's dope. But again, 1050 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, you got some other do is that at 1051 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: you that you're paying it have to touch the field. 1052 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,439 Speaker 1: If there's one hope I have for twenty twenty, and 1053 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: there's plenty of hopes that I have for that offense 1054 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of high expectations around it. But 1055 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,760 Speaker 1: one of those hopes is. I don't want Tony Polar 1056 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: to get lost in the shuffle. I really don't. I 1057 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: know you have those weapons. Like Isaiah just rattled off, 1058 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: all of those guys are going to get their chance. 1059 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: I just want Tony Polar to make sure he gets 1060 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: his chance too, because he didn't get an opportunity last year. 1061 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't think to really show what he had. And 1062 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: whenever he did have an opportunity, whether it was a 1063 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: small one or latent games, he showed out. And I 1064 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 1: think that's something you should at least reward and try 1065 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: and fit into what should be an explosive offense, because 1066 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: I think he can add that to the table. Now, 1067 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: switching to the other side of the football, who are 1068 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: your starting corners? Of course, the Cowboys go out and 1069 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: take a second round selection in Treyvon Diggs. They add 1070 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson in the fourth round. You add that already 1071 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: to the cheetah Ooozier. You add that to the Jordan Lewis, 1072 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: the Anthony Browns of the world. Who is your starting corner? Oh, 1073 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: your three starting corners? Right now? Thinking about if you're 1074 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: in the shoes of Mike Nolan rob Well, it depends 1075 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: to me on what they do with Cheeto. You know, 1076 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: if he stays at corner, I see him as a starter, 1077 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: especially I leaned towards experience early given the state of 1078 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: this offseason, you know, I think I think Kevin Cheeto 1079 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: and having you know, maybe Anthony Brown too as starters 1080 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: might make sense early. But I you know, I think 1081 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: I could see Treybon Diggs as a starter down the 1082 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: stretch or playing starter caliber snaps down the stretch, just 1083 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: like those young corners did three years ago, Jordan Lewis, Cheeto, 1084 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: those guys, those guys, it kind of became their secondary 1085 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: as the year went on. But I think Isaiah's spoken 1086 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: in this it's hard for a corner to step in 1087 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: right away, you know and play starter snaps, and they 1088 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: do have experience ahead of him, So I would lean 1089 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: on that early at least. I'm surprised that you said 1090 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: that Diggs is not an instant starter. Honestly, is he 1091 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: not maybe the best corner on the team right now? Well, 1092 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna have to go out and earn it, 1093 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: and and they're in a situation right now where there's 1094 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: not on field reps for him to take. So that's 1095 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: a great deal kind of I'm kind of factoring that 1096 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: in this year into how quickly can a rookie be 1097 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: ready to play NFL football if things continue the way 1098 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: they are. Obviously we're counting on having a training camp 1099 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: or at least, you know, I think the week is 1100 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: very hopeful of that at some point. But but I 1101 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: gotta factor that in when I talk about, you know 1102 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: what a rookie can do right away? Now he's Trayvon 1103 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: Diggs is a day one starter for the Cowboys. Man, 1104 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: you might as well pencil in me and right now 1105 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: he's in flready, uh, every and it's everybody else after that, 1106 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, tray Bon Diggs, I want 1107 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: to just Trayvon Diggs, Lewis and Woozier. In my bet, 1108 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: you know Brown is going to be, you know, third cornerback. 1109 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: That's that's just my belief. I think you just circled 1110 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: Trayvon and just say, hey, he's our starting guy right now, 1111 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: and everybody else is by it out on the other side. Yeah, 1112 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys forget about the veteran that 1113 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: we picked up a couple of years ago. Daryl Worley, Yeah, yeah, Daryl. 1114 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you brought him in 1115 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: to do just that right. You brought him in, um, 1116 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: because he is a vet. You brought him in because 1117 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: he's lengthy, because he's feisty. He's gonna he's gonna be 1118 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: the representative of what you're trying to enact on that 1119 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I think that he starts. 1120 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that, Yeah, that I believe that that Digg 1121 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: starts as well. I think those two guys are in there, um, 1122 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: and then you know you got Brown possibly in the slot. 1123 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 1: I think he is gonna be back there to safety. 1124 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see him playing a corner too 1125 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 1: much more. I think you're gonna throw him back there. 1126 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: So I think you got those guys really competing. And 1127 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: then Robinson's gonna come along too, depending on how fast 1128 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: he develops in training him. Yeah, and I kind of 1129 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: I think I wrote about this a week or two ago, 1130 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: talking about the shift of thinking in terms of Mike 1131 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: Nolan in the corners and wanting to go longer. I 1132 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if you see a combination of Darryl Worley, 1133 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs and maybe even Maurice Kennedy and as well, 1134 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: you talk about experience, Robin wanting a guy with experience. 1135 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 1: I think those three guys could start. And the fact 1136 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: that Daryl Worley has started the majority of his games 1137 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: in his four years in the NFL kind of leans 1138 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: to the fact of maybe throwing him into this conversation 1139 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more seriously. But I think that's a 1140 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: great point that you made about the fact that without 1141 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: this offseason, without these rookie training camps, at least in person, 1142 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: and then all of these different lead in events, it's 1143 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: going to be tough for a rookie to step in 1144 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: and start immediately. So last question here before we wrap 1145 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: things up for the day. Biggest hole to fill for 1146 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys still. You've addressed the interior offensive line, 1147 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: you attest the backup swing tackle, you've added hopefully something 1148 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: at right defensive end. Are any of those still the 1149 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: main concern when it comes to the Cowboys in twenty twenty. 1150 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: Heck no, We'll start with you, Ah, you know, obviously, 1151 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: you know the contingency plans at the edge. We want 1152 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: to know what Roger Goodell thinks about you know, Smith 1153 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: and Gregory um safety. I'm still I still think that 1154 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: their question marks at the strong safety position. I believe 1155 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is, you know, the incumbent that we're just 1156 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: going to right now. But they're still may be an opportunity, 1157 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: uh to find some other guys in free agency are 1158 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,439 Speaker 1: after cuts final cuts are made. So I don't think 1159 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: that you know, I wouldn't say the biggest hole, but 1160 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: I think that that's just another position that you still 1161 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: have to be looking at upgrading. Example, I'm gonna go 1162 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: with depth at at outside linebacker and a tight end. 1163 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: Those are those those are two areas that I'm gonna 1164 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: go with. I think that we have pretty much all 1165 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: the other spots pretty much. You know, we have we 1166 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of depth. Yea, yeah, you did continue 1167 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: to find depth that officer line. Um, they have depth 1168 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: at D line. I don't see a problem there. We're 1169 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: gonna get one of those ends, right you know, Smith 1170 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: or you know, Hopefully or whoever, you know, We're gonna 1171 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: get one of those guys back. No, they're not gonna 1172 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: He's not gonna not allow both of them back in 1173 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: the league. We hope back. They might come four games 1174 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: after after the season starts, but but one of those 1175 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: guys be in there. So I'm not worried about that anymore. 1176 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: But I am concerned about our depth de linebacker. You know, 1177 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: I think I think Sean Lee gets hurt or or 1178 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Wolf or Jalen one of those guys 1179 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: getting hurts, Like who's stepping in that cauld fulfeel it 1180 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: the way that those guys work, right, I know we 1181 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: have a solid three, but if one of those three 1182 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: big three get knocked out, then you're then you're setting 1183 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: up there stret Thomas right in the middle of the 1184 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: mix right there. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. So yeah, 1185 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: so that that and tight end, those are those are 1186 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: my picks. I got a totally echo when Isaiah just 1187 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: said I was thinking a linebacker and because you know 1188 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: vander Esch, we'll see what he's able to do is 1189 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: the off season goes on, if he's gonna be ready 1190 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: for for training camp. Uh, and then yeah, tight end. 1191 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, to me, it wasn't Uh. I didn't rule 1192 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: out the fact they could have drafted a tight end 1193 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: even though they got Blake Jerman, just because you know, 1194 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: I think not having Jason Witten, I think that that 1195 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: does leave a holder that's a guy that can block. 1196 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: He's an experienced player there, Blake Bell signing him, I 1197 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,439 Speaker 1: think that gives them some experience. But I think that's 1198 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: that's a spot to watch and see how those guys developed, 1199 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: because you know, look, Jarlin's not used to playing as 1200 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: many snaps as he's probably gonna play this year. I mean, 1201 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: he's usually playing about twenty five snaps a game, and 1202 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: now you're asking him to play Witten Droll. That's a 1203 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,439 Speaker 1: big difference now this year. Absolutely, And I think Blake 1204 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Bell adds a little bit to that backup tight end 1205 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: spot because he's a better blocker, and I think he's 1206 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: somebody who's still an ascending player, much like Blake Jarwin. 1207 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I think both blakes have an opportunity to be an 1208 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: ascending player in the early parts of their career. You've 1209 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: got Dalton Schultz back there. I agree with Isaiah on 1210 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the linebacking corps, though, I think the fact that you 1211 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: need maybe one more guy in the mix there to 1212 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 1: go along with the uncertainty of that position with Laton 1213 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: vander Esh's health, the age of Sean Lee, and then 1214 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: also even the health and just play making ability of 1215 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, I think all of those kind of question 1216 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: marks add to the fact that you need another linebacker. 1217 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: But that's my opinion on that overall. But that's going 1218 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: to do it here for Talking Cowboys. It's been a 1219 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: fun Tuesday morning as well. Hope everybody's staying say out 1220 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: there and continuing to look forward to the fall. We'll 1221 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: be back next week. So for heck Ma Harrison, for 1222 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,479 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying 1223 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: so long here on Talking Cowboys. This has been a 1224 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1225 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Football Club.