WEBVTT - The Unwritten Rules of a Relationship: “Princess Treatment” Vs. “Bare Minimum”

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks, it is Friday, May eighth. What does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean to treat a lady like a princess? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get a very different answer if you

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<v Speaker 1>ask men, then if you ask women. And with that, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask you. And as I say, well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes has

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<v Speaker 1>been holding this from me and I'm not sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what direction, uh this is going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is actually so interesting. Our producer Sam Overtihart

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<v Speaker 2>sent an article to us about the title was eleven

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<v Speaker 2>things men see as princess treatment versus what women see

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<v Speaker 2>as the bear minimum. And so I went and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at what these eleven things are and I laughed

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<v Speaker 2>because apparently I'm a princess because you pretty much do

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<v Speaker 2>every single one of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're a princess in a guy's eyes, in your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just normal to a woman because these are the

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>And perhaps this is one of the many reasons is

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<v Speaker 2>why I love you so much, because I have never

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<v Speaker 2>this is a true statement, I have never been in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship or even dated someone casually who's done all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things the way you do, so you are

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<v Speaker 2>an exception. And it's interesting because this whole concept and

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<v Speaker 2>this whole discussion arose from a TikTok video from last year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so a woman, she was thirty seven years old. Her

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<v Speaker 2>name was Courtney Palmer. The New York Times did a

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<v Speaker 2>big article on this. She went on a video that

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<v Speaker 2>garnered millions and millions of views and lots of reactions,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that she is a princess, that she gets prince's

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<v Speaker 2>treatment from her relationship. And she says, this was her quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of set people off. If I'm at a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant with my husband, I do not talk to the hostess,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not open any doors, and I do not

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<v Speaker 2>order my own food. And basically just went on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that her husband treats her like a princess. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so then she started listening to all the things he says.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's not using that word right, she means

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<v Speaker 1>captive or.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, but she likes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some people did talk about like, I'm sorry, they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of progression, they were doing hashtag regression. But she

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<v Speaker 2>also went on to say, and it prompted a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of women, So there became this viral trend.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still going on now.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a husband sitting in a chair a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times by a pool, but outside somewhere outside, and

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<v Speaker 2>the woman has a garden hose with a spray hose

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<v Speaker 2>attached to it, okay, and she starts listing like things

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<v Speaker 2>that she thinks he should do for her, and he

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<v Speaker 2>either says bare minimum or princess treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>If he says princess treatment, she squirts him with the hose.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really funny, and the guys are going along

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but they're being honest about what they think

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<v Speaker 2>is too much to ask for. Wow, in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually really really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to check out the tic? There are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of videos. I was laughing, You're like, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you watching?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the different thing with the hose? If it's princess treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>If he says princess treatment, you scored him with the hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because he's wrong, because it's the bare minimum? And

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<v Speaker 2>this way at least the question though, like whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>woman thinks she deserves, like whatever she thinks the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been from paying for my nails and hair to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you go to the store picking up

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<v Speaker 2>a little something. You know, I'll like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks that's Prince's treatment or bare minimum. But the

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<v Speaker 2>different things that she expects him to do, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what she's going to ask. It's really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But this article kind of consolidated the top eleven things

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<v Speaker 2>that most women consider bare minimum, and it's not every

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<v Speaker 2>woman's yes. And look, I think based on your age

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<v Speaker 2>and your experience and where you live in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>you might feel differently about some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>But I agree with all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, this is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So the number one thing that they did, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's in any order, it's just number one

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<v Speaker 2>opening her car door.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, this is Princess Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody, No, no, babe, I'm telling you you are the first

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<v Speaker 2>man other than my father who has consistently, repeatedly and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, never once missed opening my car door.

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<v Speaker 2>I have told you about previous relationships where I've been

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<v Speaker 2>told you think you're a feminist, then you need to

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and do things for yourself. So as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you have that mindset, I'm not opening a doorway.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, we have me one second? Are we This list

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<v Speaker 1>is of things that guys actually think is princesstre correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I knew you would like this because you actually

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<v Speaker 2>are on the minimum. Would you say that that is

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<v Speaker 2>bare minimum?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get barer minimum than that. The day that

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<v Speaker 1>that is you just I've just broken up with people

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<v Speaker 1>still get the damn door for them. No, it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the door.

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<v Speaker 2>And the funny thing is in this article it actually

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<v Speaker 2>states exactly what I have been told by other men.

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<v Speaker 2>Some men claim that since women want to be so independent,

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<v Speaker 2>they should do things for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Is there some segment of the population of women

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<v Speaker 1>who don't want you to open the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, But I think always offering to or doing it

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously, if someone tells you I can do it

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<v Speaker 2>by myself, I don't want you to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you respect what she wants. This is fascinating most women.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the depreciation car door we are walking towards

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<v Speaker 2>a vehicle. You go to anyone other than my father.

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<v Speaker 1>That is absolute insanity.

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<v Speaker 3>And my father does it for my mother every time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, people raise differently. It shouldn't get too harsh

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<v Speaker 1>on anybody else who doesn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But my god, yep, all right, number two this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared to get through this list now.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do this one as often, but you absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>have planning dates. That for a lot of women is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge complaint that men do not take the time

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<v Speaker 2>to plan dates and they basically expect the woman to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of create the social calendar. And it is something

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<v Speaker 2>that's considered chivalrous. I mean, as a woman to have

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<v Speaker 2>a man say I have planned when you made reservations recently,

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<v Speaker 2>that was so amazing, Like, we love it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that I consider that the bare minimum. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also don't think it's princess treatment. I think it's lovely

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<v Speaker 2>and as wonderful as often as it can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, if any fellows are listening, and if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody wants to pass this along to their fella, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one you would put in the category of an

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<v Speaker 1>easy win, right. It goes a long way, it does,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't take you a lot of effort to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. But yeah, I have you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>such a we're together all the damn time, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have such a routine where we look over again we

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where we're going on certain days at certain times. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>even so, yes I will plan more. But you did

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<v Speaker 1>light up the last You had no idea some stuff's

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<v Speaker 1>coming and it wasn't a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just oh, making a reservation is like you will

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<v Speaker 2>win points forever.

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<v Speaker 3>For doing that, all right? Number three getting her gas?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? Getting her gas like.

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<v Speaker 2>Either pumping the gas or someone wrote that they remembered

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<v Speaker 2>their father sometimes when she was long on gas, he

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<v Speaker 2>would just if he saw it, would go phillip her

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<v Speaker 2>gas tank. She'd come back the next morning and go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, he filled my tank up. Some husbands

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<v Speaker 2>do that for their wives. And look, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>bare minimum? Or is that princess treatment?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is the question on that princess treatment? Putting

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<v Speaker 1>gas in the car, that's doing something nice. That's almost

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<v Speaker 1>similar to taking out the trash. There's something in Volkolk's take.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not supposed to be in these traditional

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<v Speaker 1>roles man woman, But oftentimes the assignment of doing something

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<v Speaker 1>dirty like that taking out the trash, it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. Gassing up is something dirty. Women shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>out there gassing up and she certainly if you're driving me. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been sitting passenger in your car before we pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up to a gas station. I did not sit in

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<v Speaker 1>my seat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever, by the way, that has

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<v Speaker 2>happened in my with a man and I'm driving, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get I opened the and I'll be honest, I've

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<v Speaker 2>looked to see, waited for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, not he's not gonna do it. Okay, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually had that exact experience, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I did expect it, and I was disappointed, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little pissed. I'm not gonna lie. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly capable of gassing up my own car? Yes, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it all the time. But I feel like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have you have never once? You have never once,

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<v Speaker 2>whether I'm in the passenger seat or in the driver's seat,

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<v Speaker 2>I have never had to wait and see. You've always

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<v Speaker 2>immediately gotten out of the car. You've pumped gas every

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<v Speaker 2>time we've been together.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen you pump gas. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you are capable.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sure you can ask some former partners of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Number four letting her wear his coat if it's cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you give me shit about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have done it. In fact, there was that time

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<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. You bring up at least once a week, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I only give you shit about it because we talked

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time about you possibly taking something. Now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is this fair? Do I? When your cold and something

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<v Speaker 1>turns and it happens, you don't have to ask. I

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<v Speaker 1>have offered, and not offer an offer, only give you hell.

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<v Speaker 1>When we discussed before we leave for the evening, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was operating under the bare minimum expectation that you would

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<v Speaker 2>just obviously give me your coat.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did, and you did. I always do.

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<v Speaker 2>But but the thing is, sometimes anything I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wear was going to be disruptive to my cute outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>But like wearing your guy's jacket always is a wonderful accessory.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, is that case princess? The case we're talking about? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were acting like a princess. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll admit it that because when I knew that I

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<v Speaker 2>might get Vegas the air conditioning it's so.

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<v Speaker 3>Cold, well, we were going to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to wear it at all, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to a place where it was secure that

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<v Speaker 1>all we had to do is sit it down, your

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<v Speaker 1>whole out and your whole outfit, no problem, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would have only had to use it in an emergency,

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<v Speaker 1>which you did have, and which means I had to

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<v Speaker 1>take off a garment that I had been excited about

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<v Speaker 1>wearing for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>So true, It's so true, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But do you think that, by the way, just

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<v Speaker 2>having a woman expect that a man would do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that princess treatment or bare minimum?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, I have a jacket on and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>standing next to me is cold. You should give that

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<v Speaker 1>to a stranger.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, very cool?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this is this one's funny, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to the breakout for this one. But this one

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<v Speaker 2>made me laugh because I did a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a deeper dive. Number five taking care of her when

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<v Speaker 2>she is sick. Prince's treatment or bare minimum?

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<v Speaker 1>The how bare are can you get? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep? Okay? Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Psychology Today did an entire article on why marriages are

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to end when wives get sick. It's hilarious,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just basically said that women are considered to

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<v Speaker 2>be the caregivers and the nurturers and so when the

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<v Speaker 2>wife gets sick, then the other person has to start

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<v Speaker 2>packing up duties like cooking, cleaning, and caring for her.

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<v Speaker 2>And oftentimes they see that men just don't handle it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a larger study, but it made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it talking about? In that study? People have

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<v Speaker 1>like more serious illness, like long term type.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be serious, but it also can just be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, something where you have like a nagging this

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<v Speaker 2>or a nagging that that It actually can lead to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of relationships when women get sick versus when

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<v Speaker 2>men do.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, it's nothing changes.

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<v Speaker 1>That You're talking like a sprained ankle. If a woman

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<v Speaker 1>is out a commission for.

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<v Speaker 3>A while, it might just be the final straw.

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<v Speaker 1>May we are her, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Stepping up when someone's sick, obviously, I think most people

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<v Speaker 2>listening will agree that is bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not princess treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh of course you Oh my god, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was the other way around. Like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about breaking up and then she gets sick, now

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<v Speaker 1>you can't leave her because she's sick.

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<v Speaker 3>They get out, What am I getting out of this now? Nada?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we have actually we have one, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 2>We have five more, but they're hill. We'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>go buy quicker. But these are really funny, So stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>We got five more for you. Welcome back everyone to

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<v Speaker 2>this very fun discussion about whether or not certain expectations

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<v Speaker 2>that most women have in relationships are really truly just

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<v Speaker 2>the bare minimum in a relationship, or are they princess treatment?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we expecting too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Men complaining on TikTok and in some articles that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that these are unwritten rules that they didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about and now they're having tried to try to abide

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<v Speaker 2>by that they don't agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>Opening the car door is an unwritten rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, especially younger generation. Let's write it down

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<v Speaker 2>the different parts of the country. Yes, all right, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a funny one number is.

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<v Speaker 1>Still a thing in the South, though you said generation,

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<v Speaker 1>Are they still being some of those still?

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<v Speaker 3>I know my nephews, do I know?

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<v Speaker 2>I That can only speak through my personal experience, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do think, oh, my goodness, down South versus up here,

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<v Speaker 2>night and day. Okay, number six apologizing sincerely and with

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<v Speaker 2>that is vulnerability. So I think women do have this

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<v Speaker 2>bare minimum expectation that Yeah, your partner is going to

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<v Speaker 2>open up to you. They're going to actually sincerely apologize,

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<v Speaker 2>and men think, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I was sorry, Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's usually what you say to me. Jesus, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting the prince treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So both partner should do that. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>friends or princess stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is another one that's kind of like, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>remembering dates. Look for women, it seems to be a

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<v Speaker 2>common complaint that their husbands forget their anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, we could go ahead and reverse this one too,

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<v Speaker 3>because there is a recent, a recent example.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I remember twenty you did not, And that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I didn't. That's the end of the world. It happens.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of dates to keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>between kids and anniversaries and parents and cancer versaries, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's true a lottal So that's okay. But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>almost feels like robes. I don't want to call it

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<v Speaker 1>princess treatment. It is aspirational for a lot of men

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen. It's something you just have to be

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<v Speaker 1>conscious of. You're able to do it. But man, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as much as we look at our phones, stop

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<v Speaker 1>fellas right now, put the dates in your phone, give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a one week reminder and a two day reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>and you should be good, yes, for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>We have no excuses, none of us, because we can

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<v Speaker 2>all put it into our calendars.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you'll like this one number eight. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>you are the only man who I have been in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with who has ever done this. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of women do expect this, and some men think

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<v Speaker 2>this is ridiculous walking on the outside of the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I don't know any different. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any different. I don't I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that do even women are? Are they aware of it?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was aware of it immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at first when you were doing it, I got

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<v Speaker 2>confused because I'd have to switch my handbag because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to have the handbag like in between us.

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<v Speaker 2>And you explain, I'm sorry, it's just the way my

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<v Speaker 2>mom raised me. I walk on the outside of the street,

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as you said that, I swooned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, But are do women, though in I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know all parts of the country would even expect

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<v Speaker 1>something like that or be impressed by or like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I do think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the South there is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more of an expectation. I will tell you Eva interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>who's dating now twenty three years old, noticed when.

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<v Speaker 3>A guy did that and you immediately like wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't that she had an expectation, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a big win in her book to have

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<v Speaker 2>a guy do that, because it isn't necessarily standard, especially

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<v Speaker 2>here in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, especially here in New York, it's more appreciated because

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<v Speaker 2>of all that's going on. Think about all those buses

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<v Speaker 2>spraying water, just the concern that something could come up

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<v Speaker 2>on the curb. It's protective in a lot of very

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<v Speaker 2>speech chivalrous spays.

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<v Speaker 3>I even see you shifting.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, if there's a shifty homeless man who we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how erratically he may be behaving, you will actually

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<v Speaker 2>shift from the outside to that side to wherever the

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<v Speaker 2>threat is or the perceived threat could be. You will

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<v Speaker 2>shift where you are. And I see you doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's very sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think anything. It's just an automatic dude with sabine

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street. It's just a I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know anything that is so that

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<v Speaker 1>was put in me where OBEs. I guess the guy

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<v Speaker 1>would have to train himself or remember it if you did,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know any other thing to do. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels awkward to walk.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side, I love it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>if women listening raise their sons like this, they will

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<v Speaker 2>be forever appreciated by the women.

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<v Speaker 3>Who they date.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Number nine giving her flowers and this is

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<v Speaker 2>not just about on anniversaries, but actually just showing up

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<v Speaker 2>with flowers. There is this there is an expectation that

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<v Speaker 2>you hope your guy is going to do this, and

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<v Speaker 2>when they do, it's a huge win. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a gesture. The expectation of getting them might be

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<v Speaker 2>princess treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it's a princess mindset on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you.

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<v Speaker 3>Mind a princess mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>You might end up being let down a little on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think most guys usually said, it's mother's day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's birthday, and what am I missing? Anniversary?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but it's so fun when it's just a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Number ten doing chores without being asked you are like

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly, I didn't have that expectation because I never

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<v Speaker 2>had that experience. So when I saw you just cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>and just doing what you do, it is amazing. Housework

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge issue that damages relationships, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>it is because, yeah, we do have an expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a partner, I work too, and yet it

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<v Speaker 3>never seems to be even close to being equal.

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<v Speaker 2>You are very different. You have always been just. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't say, babe, can you take out the trash?

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<v Speaker 3>Babe? Could you? Could you? Could you clear the dishes? Babe?

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<v Speaker 3>I never once have I ever asked you to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, was that yesterday you walked by the front door

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you said, where'd the trash? Cat? I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to take that out on my way and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>already taken it out. I don't know what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know every household works differently, But what's the expert.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if how it works in another house,

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<v Speaker 1>if one person doesn't do anything, if one person doesn't clean,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you talking about chores? It's just cleaning up

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<v Speaker 1>after yourself. We all have Thank you for the space. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't how does it work if one person refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to help around.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they've never had to because their mama didn't make

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<v Speaker 2>them that kind of a thing. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's princess treatment at all for you to clean up

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<v Speaker 2>without being asked. I'm telling you, babe, I have had

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<v Speaker 2>to ask every single guy I've ever dated to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything around the house, pretty much, even taking out the trash.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so I got a keeper, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally paying when you go out. Look, a recent

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<v Speaker 2>study said eighty percent of men believed they were expected

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<v Speaker 2>to pay on dates.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of men agree with this, but the twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>out there don't think they should have to. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you Is it a princess mindset to think or to

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<v Speaker 2>assume that the man is going to pay the bill

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<v Speaker 2>when you go out on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it say that we're splitting it? I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually know. I'm very curious about this. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my way of thinking with some I guess would say

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<v Speaker 1>is backwards. You go out on a first date and

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<v Speaker 1>just having the expectation that the man pays. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>matter which one asks the other out? Does that make

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<v Speaker 1>a difference? If she asked him out. Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay if they just agreed on some dating app

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<v Speaker 1>to is that? Wouldn't some take issue with an expectation

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<v Speaker 1>that the man pays.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yes, I do, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I don't believe that there should be an expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is princess mindset, that I'm owed this

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<v Speaker 2>or I deserve this, but it is chivalrous and it

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<v Speaker 2>is appreciated if the man does pay, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>prefer that mindset. However, to expect that, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>might be off putting.

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<v Speaker 1>To expect it, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>To expect it, and some people someone will say, I

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<v Speaker 2>will not go on a second date the man doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>pay the first and I do agree that that would

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<v Speaker 2>maybe impact how I felt about him, if he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even yet or if he expected me to, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>he asked me out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way I go. I would expect a woman

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the split the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they would probably expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is that a turn off?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>The first date, it would definitely set me in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong direction, send me in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, this is that is not princess treatment. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a princess mindset either. First date, it's obvious who pays. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if we keep going, maybe you can alternate, Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could split the next one. And what's supposed to happen

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<v Speaker 1>is the woman at some point on date three say

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let me get this one. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it's supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are some women who don't even think that.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, if you haven't checked out some

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<v Speaker 2>of these videos, it's hilarious. We're not big TikTok people,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't go on there just for fun unless

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<v Speaker 2>someone directs me there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had a blast watching them, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, feel free to try it at home with your

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<v Speaker 2>significant other and see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>All right with that, everyone, I have a wonderful Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening. As always on Mami rot Walk

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<v Speaker 2>alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes. We will talk to you soon.