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Speaker 1: to another edition to Chargers Weekly, and this is sort

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Speaker 1: of the beginning of free agency. We've moved on from

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Speaker 1: a player, we've restructured a deal, but in the moment

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Speaker 1: that we are recording this, there is still some business

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Speaker 1: to be done. Daniel Popper kind enough to join me

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Speaker 1: this week on Chargers Weekly as we try to break

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Speaker 1: it all down figure it out. Be sure to follow

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Speaker 1: Daniel on Twitter, subscribe to The Athletic. Nobody does a

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Speaker 1: better chop. The man's got a freaking spreadsheet. He's projecting

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Speaker 1: voidable years. If it's two voidable years, this is what

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Speaker 1: our cap situation looks like. If it's four, this is

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Speaker 1: what it looks like. There is a colored chart. There's red,

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Speaker 1: there's green, there's yellow. It really is. He's the best.

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Speaker 1: And there's a reason why people always get excited and

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Speaker 1: have notifications set up anytime you post something, Daniel, So

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Speaker 1: thanks for man. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the intro. So I come from a

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Speaker 2: family of accountants. You guys all think that my spreadsheet

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Speaker 2: is great. When I show it to my dad and

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Speaker 2: my brother, they are appalled. And they wanted to own me.

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Speaker 2: So I'm appreciative that everyone else loves the spreadsheet because

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Speaker 2: in the family, I make the worst spreadsheets than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Listen, they can have their their green glass shaded lamp

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Speaker 1: snowboard behind you, a hoodie and you get to talk

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Speaker 1: about football. So I think you're all right. You could

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Speaker 1: you could take their derision and you're still coming out ahead.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, So let's get into it. This is what

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Speaker 1: I expected to be, you know, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: what I don't just say that because it's hindsight, but

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about it on Charger's Weekly. I thought,

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Speaker 1: moving forward, the way Khalil played last year, how important

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Speaker 1: he was to tu Ley, it felt like that there

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Speaker 1: was something there that they could figure you're out, and

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Speaker 1: obviously we've heard Aboutcinin repeatedly from everybody that's been hired

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Speaker 1: at how important he is, so just level of surprise

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Speaker 1: and maybe what you think is still to come.

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Speaker 2: Daniel, Yeah, I think these were the natural first two steps,

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Speaker 2: Mike with the savings that they were going to get

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Speaker 2: like a release was always going to happen there. They

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Speaker 2: weren't going to have much leverage in a trade market

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Speaker 2: to try and move him. A lot of teams were

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Speaker 3: So that one made sense.

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Speaker 2: And then it felt like they were going to make

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Speaker 2: a decision here between the two edge rushers as far

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Speaker 2: I heard coming out of the combine. It made sense.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, Khalil was unbelievable last year, and

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Speaker 2: you're trying to set a culture here. I think, like

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Speaker 2: performance is one thing, but you're also trying to shift things,

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Speaker 2: and like that was one of the big reasons why

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Speaker 3: Like they obviously felt like he had some good football left, but.

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Speaker 2: The way he works, his leadership, his experience, like all

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Speaker 2: Like people want to follow that and it helps you

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Speaker 2: great last year. You know, obviously the front office and

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Speaker 2: Joe Ortiz and the coaching said with Jim Harbar, you know,

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Speaker 2: watching the tape from last year. You watched the tape

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Speaker 2: last year, you see a guy that's still an elite

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Speaker 2: edge rusher, and then I think those other sort of

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Speaker 2: standpoint to the locker room, it just makes sense to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, you got to keep somebody.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Like this defense is bear, I

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Speaker 1: do a great job over you know, posting every Day

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Speaker 1: at the Athletic of you know, here's here's the top

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Speaker 2: Metter, Yeah, no, I think you're right on it. Like

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Speaker 2: those you mentioned two positions that I'm sort of looking at,

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Speaker 2: I think Nick can play like Nick has gone in

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Speaker 2: there's there's two players there, right, But like you go

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Speaker 2: through a season, like you know, to use a term,

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Speaker 2: like linebackers do often get hurt. Obviously, Kendricks and Murray

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Speaker 3: Like I would have loved to see a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He played in the defense last year.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of work to do defensively, I agree,

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Speaker 2: And there's not a lot of pathways there, Like they're

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if you want to look

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Speaker 1: And that's what Aloe has. He's just so good at

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Speaker 1: of now on the back end slot like if they

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Speaker 1: we have not seen this team do in the first

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Speaker 1: round since Jason Barrett. If it's Mitchell or Arnold, like

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Speaker 1: those are two really good corners that could go a

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Speaker 2: No, I think in a trade down scenario and a

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Speaker 1: I like Arnold. I think you know you can. I

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Speaker 1: Yes this works. You need to explosiveness. We have not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want to talk about a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: just mean. He's a bully, Like he goes. Like you

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Speaker 2: watch even a little bit of his tape, guys are

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Speaker 2: I saw him tossing around edge rushers. I saw him

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Speaker 2: just he's mean, and like you know, like as far

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But like if you're talking about trading down potentially in

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Speaker 2: like that guy makes so much sense. I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: Like basically, you look, I had conversations at the combine.

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Speaker 2: This is genuinely like five guys that you're deciding between,

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Speaker 2: a feel for the position at tackle. It's not always pretty,

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Speaker 3: To clear holes. And so it's it's a pick your

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Speaker 2: And with that, it's like, Okay, do you feel comfortable

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Speaker 2: And like he jumps off the screen with his way,

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Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. I just don't. I

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Speaker 2: First point is you trade down and you give up

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Speaker 1: That's tough.

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: down the road. Hey, let's try and get a future first,

434
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you know, we'll do

435
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: what we can this year, piece it together and hope

436
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: Justin can carry us. And then all of a sudden,

437
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: you got two first round picks in you know, twenty

438
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 2: twenty five, potentially high picks.

439
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 3: If one of these teams is trading up.

440
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: For a quarterback and that rookie starts and then all

441
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're really cooking, right, So that's my

442
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do. I would probably

443
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 2: and I did this in our beat writer mock little tease,

444
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: I would probably target future first in twenty twenty five

445
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: because I think those are I think there's a market

446
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: inefficiency there. I think the Eagles have been attacking it

447
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: more anybody else. Well, where teams are like, yeah, take

448
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: a future first, like we're going to make the playoffs

449
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: and it'll be like the twenty six pick, and then

450
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 2: you know they're the right you know, the Panthers and

451
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: they end up like one fifteen or whatever, one sixteen,

452
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: two and fifteen whatever they were. So that's where I

453
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: would go that direction. But I'm curious what you think,

454
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: what you would do and what you think they would

455
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: do as far as a return in a trade down scenario.

456
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it works both ways. For me, I'm

457
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: fine with either just because of how deep this draft is.

458
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it would depend on how

459
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: deep it is a wide receiver, how deep it is

460
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: at o line. You know, if you feel really good

461
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: about what you're getting in return, you know you could.

462
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: So let's say you get an extra second. Well what

463
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: if you decide to package those together, jump back up

464
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: and now you've got Graham Barton, who a lot of

465
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: people think is the best projected So now you trade back,

466
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: you get your tackle, you trade back up with that

467
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: extra second, and now you've solidified your offensive line. You're

468
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: done the most important trench position offensively, and you move forward.

469
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: Now that said, I'm going to this is what I

470
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: do regularly on this is I contradict myself the idea,

471
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, but we just saw it like that. The

472
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: thing is, it's nebulous, it's constantly changing. We just saw

473
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: a freaking hunt get a one hundred million dollar contract

474
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: at interior line to be average. So like that's that

475
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: all comes that all becomes part of it. That if

476
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: you can get a a an elite level starter locked

477
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: in for five years on the offensive line, you know,

478
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about Slater Zion. I believe say I believe

479
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: Zion is going to have a big year with this

480
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: new I just I feel it. I just look at him.

481
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: He's smart. I feel like that's fine. So, like, if

482
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: you can now get four of your five offensive linemen

483
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Speaker 1: to be in what you believe is an elite category

484
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: and they're all young, and they're on different pay scales

485
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: moving forward, that to me makes a lot of sense.

486
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: So that's where I think about, and you would even

487
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: maybe have to trade back in. I know there's a

488
00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: lot of interior linemen that whether it's center, Wisconsin and State, like,

489
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of centers that people like that you're

490
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get in the second, maybe third,

491
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: even fourth. Rauh like the one name that I've heard

492
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: as like, and I'm gonna you could probably remember how

493
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: to prize up Totanu, the Washington tackle guard who's being

494
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: projected middle of the round, like the top interior alignment

495
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: I like coming out. There's people that think he's in

496
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: the best lineman, Like, dude, this guy you can play

497
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: him at tackle, He's fine, you want to put him

498
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: at guard, He's gonna be the best guard. In the draft,

499
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: you want to put him at center, and this guy

500
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: could end up being the next great center for the

501
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: next fifteen years in the NFL. So like that's where

502
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: it all gets sort of interesting. Now, is I make

503
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: this answer way too long? Daniel? I love the idea

504
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: of next year because, like, if we're just being realistic,

505
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're really looking at the way this

506
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: thing is lined up this year, You're playing the AFC North,

507
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: You've got the Chiefs in York Division, and you know

508
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: you can try to get and these guys are competitive

509
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: and I believe in them. I believe they will instill

510
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: some sort of winning culture and toughness and they can

511
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: win every one of these games and make the postseason.

512
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: But especially if it's the Bears, because that's very similar

513
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: to what the Dolphins did for Jalen Wato when they

514
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: traded up, and they sacrifice the future first, you know,

515
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: and to me, I would take that swing. I would

516
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: take that swing in a division with the Lions and

517
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: a vision with the Packers if that's what you can

518
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: get out, if you can get a future first from

519
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: the Bears to go from nine to five, because they

520
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: want to pair an elite receiver with Caleb right away

521
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: and get rolling. I would one one hundred percent do

522
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: that as opposed to going back two more spots and

523
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: taking a two on a three this year.

524
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, Like I'm with you, like I lean

525
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: toward future first capital in twenty five. But like it's

526
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: really about what they want the timeline to be, and

527
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: that's what we really don't know, you know, like if

528
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we like you know, Jim Harbaugh came

529
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, they were six and ten, he turned

530
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: that thing around in one year, Like he could look

531
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: at this and say like, we're going to turn this around,

532
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: like we're going to do it in one year, and

533
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: in that case, then training down and getting capital this year.

534
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: I love your idea of you know, potentially packaging the

535
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: two seconds to move back in the first and going

536
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: to get a center if a center's falling like that.

537
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense to me. But it's

538
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: all about timeline. We got a little bit I wrote

539
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 2: about this yesterday. We got a little bit of a taste,

540
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: right and then keeping Khalil Mack to like, hey, not

541
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: a full tear down here, We're not going to shred

542
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: it up. So you know, that tells you that, hey,

543
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: they're trying to do a little something here because they're

544
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: pushing some of Khalil's money down the road, you know.

545
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: But you know in the end, they're probably going to

546
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 2: fall somewhere in the middle. And it's like, Okay, what

547
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: is exactly the timeline here and how does that impact

548
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: the draft strategy in terms of what they're looking for

549
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: in trade down scenario?

550
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think you know, you also look at

551
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: the division and obviously we focus on the Chiefs because

552
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: that's the easiest way to get in the tournament, right

553
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: to win the division. But behind it, you've got a

554
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback signed by the Raiders, and that you would

555
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: assume they want to find that. The you know, word

556
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: is that they are trying to get up into that

557
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: top three. I don't think they're going to be able

558
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: to get there. I can't imagine any of those three

559
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: teams passing on any of these three quarterbacks. All listen,

560
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: all the Drake may shade that is out there from

561
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: the talking heads, don't believe it that the teams love him.

562
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: Teams freaking love this guy. He's going in the top three. Okay, So,

563
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: and I would be floored if Washington knowing what's coming

564
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: next year. And granted, look, Jayden Daniels was not on

565
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: the radar last year coming into this year, but this

566
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: is the quarterback class. This is the class that everybody wants.

567
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: So I just don't envision the Raiders being able to

568
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: get up there. So they have Minshew obviously on a

569
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: bridge deal, and he's going to compete with it. O.

570
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: I've no idea what the Broncos are going to do.

571
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: That's four games, that's four of your games right there

572
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: in division. You know, do we think the NFC South

573
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: is a huge mountain to overcome? Falcons are obviously going

574
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: to be good with Kirk much better, But you get

575
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: the Panthers, the Bucks and the Saints, like you can

576
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: piece this together and feel like, Okay, I think we

577
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: can get there. I think you know, and I think

578
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: when you have Justin at quarterback, I think you just

579
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: that that's what that's what you sort of highlighted here, Daniel.

580
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. When Justin's your quarterback, you

581
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: want to go after it every year because just think

582
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: about that Bengals roster that that Joe Burrow took to

583
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You know, on how many questions surrounded

584
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: that offensive line, you know, and then Nwrickson ends up

585
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: popping as that free agent, Like it just all came together.

586
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: What did they do? They took the receiver instead of

587
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: the tackles, you know, they took the receiver instead of Yeah,

588
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: they took the receiver instead of the tackle, and it

589
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: became yeah. So like I think that's how they can

590
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: And it looks like based on you know, kind of

591
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: you doing the that detective work of Khalil Mackett's, Like

592
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're thinking. They're thinking when you

593
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: have justin even though you have no defensive tackles, no linebackers,

594
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: you need a corner like they can still visualize, you know,

595
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: and and but what like I would love to get

596
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: your take on this. Yeah, I like Josh Palmer. I

597
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: like Josh Palmer like has.

598
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Come from like I don't, I don't know where, Like everyone,

599
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: it feels like the fan base is super down on him,

600
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: like he's a new player, like he's he's like a

601
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: really good number three receiver, which is and they took

602
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: him in the third round. Like like I was actually

603
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: thinking about that last night. I was like that was

604
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: a good pick, Like he's a really consistent player. He's

605
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't really have a lot of weaknesses in his game,

606
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Like he's he's a good route runner, he's got good hands,

607
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: he's got good feel. He can you know, get to

608
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: multiple areas of the field, you know, short, intermediate, and

609
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: even deep sometimes, Like.

610
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: He's a good third receiver. I don't know where it.

611
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Came from that everyone soured on him so much. The

612
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: question in the receiving room is Quintin, you know, why

613
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 2: are they going to get out of him?

614
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: I know that.

615
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: They're like they're excited about you know what he could be,

616
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: right san Jaylal, the receivers coach coming in from Seattle,

617
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: you know you look at what he did with DK Metcalf. Yeah,

618
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, obviously different players, but you talk about molding

619
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: tools into something tangible on the field, Like, you know,

620
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: I could see him taking a step. That's really the

621
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: question mark to me, Like I have a lot more

622
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: faith than Josh Palmer to be a consistent performer than

623
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: I do Quintin based on what I've seen.

624
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Hundred per one hundred percent. And I brought this up

625
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: last week. I said the thing like, show me a

626
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Harbaugh team that had a highlight wide receiver. There aren't

627
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: many that There were none at Michigan, there were none

628
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: at Stanford. You could argue Crabtree, he might have been

629
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: top ten twenty, that would be like, you know, but

630
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: really it was Frank Gored Vernon Davis who had monster year.

631
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: The year that Crabtree had his eleven hundred yard season,

632
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis had him. It's your year of that year.

633
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: So it's like they maybe they have enough with Keenan.

634
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: Allen's better than Michael Crimetrie ever was. So you've already

635
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: got Keenans a one and that's you know, they signed

636
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: dis Lee, so that could potentially help you out at

637
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: right tackle. You actually have a tight end who can

638
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: block for a change and help you out on that

639
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: side of the line. So like now, to me, like

640
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that just continues to add to

641
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: the many different directions they've been going. I don't know

642
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: if you known' where I'm going with this, but like,

643
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: to me, that then can bring the brock Bauers conversation

644
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: into play where you know, we've got we feel like

645
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: we've got enough. What if we add a truly unique

646
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: weapon you know, like because like the thing when the

647
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: thing when he showed up in San Francisco and took

648
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: a six and ten team to thirteen and three. They

649
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: were stacked, you know, like that team, Patrick Willis, Nabarro

650
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Bowman at linebacker, Aldo Smith, the maud Brooks Justice at

651
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: the front. They had Staliot left tackle, They had Frank

652
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: go or Bernon Davis, like they had players. And so

653
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: I think the idea of do we have enough where

654
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: we could really kind of drop this. I just don't

655
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: know if Joe Ortiz wants his first ever first dround

656
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: pick for the Chargers to be that kind of swing

657
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: on a brock Bowers if you're going to pass up

658
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: the receiver, you know, are you saying that? I'm saying

659
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: if they traded down, traded down, could break? Could brock

660
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: Bowers then be that piece and just be that total

661
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife of hey man, try to figure this out,

662
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Try to that the Travis Kelcey, the you know, that

663
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: sort of level, because like people, I think forget Bernon

664
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Davis was a complete bust. Do you think about the

665
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: meltdown that Mike Singletary had about him? And you know,

666
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I want you guys coming off the field that aren't

667
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: all non shalot and like that little rant and what

668
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: arbad do? He came in and he's like, you're in,

669
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: We're going to feature you. And guy ends up having

670
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: back to back monster seasons.

671
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: He's a physical specimen though Vernon Davis, like at the

672
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: University of Maryland where he went, That's where I went

673
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: to school. I mean, he still has every single weightlifting

674
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: record like to college decades ago. So I listen trade

675
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: down scenario, like, sure, brock Bauer should be available, Like

676
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: I said, I wouldn't be surprised by anything. My issue

677
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: is really positional value. If you take him at five,

678
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: he's got to be a top five player by the

679
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: end of the contract, and then people saying that you

680
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: can get the surplus value on.

681
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: The second deal.

682
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: In order to do that, he has to be Travis

683
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: Kelce or Mark Andrews. He has to be your one

684
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: a passing option in the offense. And that's like a

685
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of margin for air.

686
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Now.

687
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: If you take him at nine to ten, eleven to thirteen.

688
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: Range, the cap hit in the fourth year of the

689
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: contract is around six million, which is like okay, now

690
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: you have to be a top fifteen player, top seventeen

691
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: player at the position. That to me is like, okay,

692
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I can see surplus value in that contract. The issue

693
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: with me is all about, okay, how do you get

694
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: the value out of it at five on the rookie

695
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: deal so that when you pay him, you know, you're

696
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: not like, you know, sinking value in both the rookie

697
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: deal and right and the second contract.

698
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: But that I think people are high on it.

699
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that applies. Also. You know, this is something I

700
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: brought up too that that people forget about, is the

701
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: gap between number five and number nine, and then the

702
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: gap between number five and like number twelve. Its gigant

703
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: in terms of what money wise, I mean you are.

704
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: So if you have let's just say you're like, okay,

705
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: if you like all these tackles, this is our identity.

706
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Let's build out this line. If you've got you know,

707
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: Fuaga and Fishanu and alt and late them and they're

708
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: all plumped together, absolutely trade down and don't hand over

709
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: eight whatever it is twenty nine million dollars thirty I

710
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: think it's a thirty five million dollar contract. Give out

711
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: a twenty two million dollar contract instead and get a

712
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: pleyer that's got the same on a grade. It just

713
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: the trade down scenario to me makes so much sense

714
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: in less the grade on neighbors and a doone's ay,

715
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: it's so far ahead of everybody else that you can

716
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: ignore that gap that it's just not worth it to

717
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: take that drop.

718
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. So as far as offensive line, I want

719
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: I wanted to go back to this.

720
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's say they trade down and they get

721
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Fuaga and they feel like he can play at right tackle,

722
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: and then they're able to get a center in the

723
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: second round. Then maybe they signed you know, Bradley Boseman

724
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: or some sort of veteran center to consider there. Okay,

725
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: so you feel like you have left tackle set with Rashaan,

726
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: you have left guard set with I, And I agree

727
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: with you. I think like with a different scheme and

728
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: different coaching, I think he can be the player they

729
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: expected him to be when they drafted.

730
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: Him in the first round. You've got two guys competing

731
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: at center.

732
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: You've got two guys basically competing at right tackle with

733
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, Trey, and then you're rooking in this scenario, Fuaga,

734
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: what do you do at right guard? That's really like

735
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: a big question now, do you. Basically, what I think

736
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: they could do is if they take a guy like Fuaga,

737
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: who some people think will be a better guard than tackle.

738
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: You have basically Jamari Salary, who can play at tackle

739
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: and guard, has played guard, you know, was better at tackle.

740
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: You have Fuaga who can play both spots, and then

741
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: maybe you give you know, Trey Pipkins a look inside

742
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: and you have three guys sort of competing for those

743
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: two spots. My question would be, you know, what what

744
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: would you do at right guard? Because the offensive line

745
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: is going to be really really important. They got Gus Edwards,

746
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, they feel like they got a pure runner

747
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: there downhill, physical, they finally got a blocking tight end

748
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: after I've been writing about it ad nauseum for like

749
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: seventeen years. But you got to also, you know, fill

750
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: out that that offensive line and feel like you can

751
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: get push on both sides.

752
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: So you have a two way go in the running game.

753
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: So what would you do there? If the vision is

754
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: a running game, what do you do at that right guard?

755
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? To me, it's you know, the the Trey Pipkins

756
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: thing becomes a look again attrition position. Right just get

757
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: hurt so to be able to have a swing like

758
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Trey I think, or to have, you know, have another

759
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: tackle helps a lot. To have positional flexibility with Jamari helps,

760
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know what you think. I thought

761
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: make Fadden played pretty well last year when he jumped it,

762
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, that would be like I would probably lead

763
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: with him over Sawyer. I do think and and look,

764
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: I believe in this coaching staff. I just I think

765
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: the world of Nick. I really do. He's one of

766
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: the smartest guys I've ever talked football with. And he's

767
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: someone that I think just understands that position so well

768
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: and comes from that background that that I that I love,

769
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, all state wrestler, incredible hands, understands leverage, and

770
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: I think you you know, and Devlin obviously think that

771
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people think very highly of Devlin. So

772
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: to me, look, I don't know, I don't I can't speak,

773
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't think the coaching was where

774
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: it should have been last year. What they focused on,

775
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: I'll leave it that way. What they chose to focus

776
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: on on the offensive line is not what I think

777
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: you need to focus on when it comes to offensive line,

778
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: and that will be rectified this year. And I believe

779
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: you will see and that's where it becomes interesting. I

780
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: just I feel like Dan, we've seen, like I feel

781
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: like we've seen a little bit too much variance from

782
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Trey to feel really good about going into a season

783
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: knowing how just over and over and over again, teams

784
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: would line up their best rusher against him and it

785
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: would be an issue. Now again, you said you've been

786
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: at nauseam asking for that blocking tight end to help

787
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: out over there, get backs that can help pass pro

788
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, and help out over there, and feel good

789
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: about Rashan. But like to me, that's kind of where

790
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I come out, and maybe this this this particular staff

791
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: is like, oh no, we're good with Trey, we can

792
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: we can work with this this he's got enough and

793
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: we can work with this. But like to me, that's

794
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: where that that right. Just to answer your left or

795
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: right guard question, depending on where they want to put

796
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: Zion moving forward. I thought mcfad looked pretty good, Yeah,

797
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: I did. I think they can work with that.

798
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was really good in the Broncos game. Like

799
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: I watching that tape, I was like, Okay, that that

800
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: guy can potentially play in the league. There, which is

801
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: a really good point The other really good point is

802
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: that we have no idea how much coaching is going

803
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: to impact you know, all of these guys. And I

804
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: think you said it well, so I'm not even.

805
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Going to try and explain it to I tried to.

806
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: I think that was very deft and how he went

807
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: about that like, I think, you know, I actually give it.

808
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: I'll give it a spin.

809
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: So I think, like in order and I'll take what

810
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: Greg Roman said at his introductory press conference to beat writers.

811
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: In order to be a good running team, there has

812
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: to be intention and what he said is you actually

813
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: have to call the runs.

814
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: You got to do it, you know.

815
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: And I think there was some frustration among all the

816
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: players involved in the run game that they would get

817
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: away from it, and that was under both Joe Lombardi

818
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: and Kellen Moore, and it was like we got to

819
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: get in a rhythm. Like the human element of this

820
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: thing I think gets lost. It's like, if you're an

821
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, you want to get after people. And so

822
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, if you if there are a couple of

823
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: runs early in the game that don't hit, you got

824
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: to stick with it because those guys want to get

825
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: after people. And this is that's the vision, that's what

826
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: these guys believe in, from Harba to Roman. You got

827
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: to call them. You gotta have an identity, you have

828
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: to have an intention, and then you have to get

829
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: after people. So I think on a philosophical level, like

830
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: you can probably expect elevated play in the run game

831
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: from all of these offensive lineman strictly because of that.

832
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: And then you then you start talking.

833
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: About like the details, the specifics of technique and all

834
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. If that improves from a coaching standpoint,

835
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: you know how much improvement are you going to see

836
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: when you have both of those things working together, the

837
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: philosophical approach and the intention, and then also you know

838
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: better day to day practice to practice snap to snap,

839
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: coaching on the on the technique and stuff, and so like,

840
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: I think they have pieces there, but like, if they're

841
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: gonna build it this way and they're gonna be a

842
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: running team and they want to be a bully, you

843
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 2: got to keep investing an offensive line.

844
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: It's got to be where you're just turning it over

845
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: every year.

846
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: More talent, more talent, more talent, create that competition and

847
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: just have that talent base.

848
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: So that if guys do leaving free agency, you.

849
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Get a compic and you got another player coming up,

850
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: and that's I think about they're trying to do.

851
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's again this is this is

852
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: what you're doing long term. You just said it. I

853
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: think there's you think about what the Packers do every

854
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: year when they draft a receiver, if not too in

855
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: the third and fourth route, Like every year I draft

856
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: a running back and I would draft an offensive lineman

857
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Like that's that, Hey, rounds three through six, two of

858
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: those picks are going to be O linemen and running back.

859
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: Like that to me is just keep charring and like

860
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: you said, it's just a you can let him walk.

861
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: You get your compic and here's the next guy we

862
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: plug in because this is how we're going to play.

863
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing about Roman is you

864
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: know he he is from what you know. My understanding

865
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: is he's someone who has been in control of everything.

866
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: He is not just a play caller. He is invested

867
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: in when it comes to the run game, the O

868
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: line he is in. He's not just the play he

869
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: is the running back. He's coaching the O line, he's

870
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: calling the O line, He's calling everything. When it comes

871
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: to the runs, and it's one of the reasons why

872
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: there's just so much consistency because he knows front to back.

873
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: It's not just a call on a play sheet, it's

874
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: this is how it needs to be executed. This is

875
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: why it's being executed this way. And it's not about

876
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: this one play. It's about the full sixty minutes of

877
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: where we're going front to back. And I think it's

878
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: also why the sort of passing game coordinator has always

879
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: been important in those offenses. And that's where the whole

880
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh thing comes in, you know, with having Rome and

881
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: this is a pair that's been very comfortable, you know, merging,

882
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: you know what Roman is so good at with you know,

883
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Jim Arba, who probably doesn't get enough credit because he's

884
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: viewed I think more as like that CEO culture ceter toughness,

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: which is true. But this is a guy that can

886
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: call offense. This is a guy that knows how to

887
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: call office. So I think that's kind of what people

888
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: lose sight on, is that, Yeah, romans here to kind

889
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: of rebuild this run game, which has never existed since

890
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: they moved here in twenty seventeen. It really hasn't existed

891
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: for the last fifteen twenty years. And you know, when

892
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: you marry that with what Harbaugh was able to do,

893
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm very, very excited to see something we just haven't seen,

894
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: just a style that we have not seen. And look,

895
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Lyne tried to do it, you know, he tried

896
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: to do it. They just didn't think that the line

897
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: was it was bad. Like the line was bad in

898
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: those years when you think it is crazy to think

899
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: about what they rolled out there on the offensive line,

900
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't want which is why. Yeah, I mean the

901
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: forest layup Dan Feeney, Antosh sam Tevia tackle of Ocoon

902
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: who was on one leg, you know, but pretty much

903
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: the entire time he was here. And oh shoot, remind

904
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: me of whom I forgetting from Chicago, Mia Michael Schofield

905
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: like you have you can't like you got no chance,

906
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: You've got no chance. So to be able to have

907
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: that those bodies, the amount of talent they have, this

908
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: you can really make an elite unit. And and look

909
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: there's you know, look at what they had at Michigan.

910
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about a team that won the award for

911
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: the best offensive line, guys that were winning the Rimington Trophy.

912
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Like that's how they did it. You know, look what

913
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: you put into the league. What do you put in

914
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: the league from Stanford to Michigan. Lineman, defensive and offensive linement,

915
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: that's what they put into the league. And guys who

916
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: excel at their positions in the league. So and a

917
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: quarterback and a quarterback exactly quarterback.

918
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because I think I guess your point right,

919
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: Like I think this whole idea that Greg Roman's going

920
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: to come in as the play caller is just going

921
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: to be smash mouth and only smash mouth, like Jim

922
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: Harbaugh played fifteen years in the league. Like this guy

923
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: was slinging it like he's a quarterback. I think a

924
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: Greg Roman offense filtered through Jim Harbaugh is very different

925
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: than a Greg Roman offense filtered through John Harbor, who's

926
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: a special team this defensive coach. And I will say

927
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: this like this is going to be a Jim Harbaugh offense,

928
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Like he is very involved in these early stages of

929
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: building this offense. He's not taking a back seat at

930
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: all whatsoever. And so I think you're right on it there.

931
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: The one thing is like they're gonna have alignment here,

932
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: and if you go back to the previous regime. They

933
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: were kind of patching the run game together, like they

934
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: wanted ideas from a bunch of different places, you know,

935
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: they wanted to outside outside zone stuff, you know, from

936
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: the Shanahan Tree. So they brought in Shane Day at

937
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach, and they had Frank Smith who was really

938
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: the one implementing it, but it never really coached for

939
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: a Shanahan Tree head coach or offensive guy. And then

940
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: you had some you know, different elements you know from

941
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: the New Orleans days, and they were trying to kind

942
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: of bring it all together and that's tough to do.

943
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: Like you need that alignment, you know, from the head

944
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: coach on down as far as like this is gonna

945
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: be our identity schematically, philosophically right to produce. And then

946
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: when you translate that to the players, they know exactly

947
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: what you're about.

948
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: You know.

949
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: It's not like, hey, we're.

950
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Gonna do some of this and some of this and

951
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: some of this and some of this is all gonna

952
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: come together and be great.

953
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: They're like, well, what are we?

954
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: And I think Corey Linsley talked that about that like

955
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: a lot publicly, like hey, we we never really had

956
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: that identity of okay, we're gonna be whatever it is.

957
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna be an outside zone team, or we're gonna

958
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: be like a duo downhill team like it was never.

959
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: That vision was never, you know, crystallized in a way

960
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: that the players felt super confident about and that I

961
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: can guarantee you that will not happen under the Harvard.

962
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: Room and regime.

963
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Let's I'm with you that they are going to have

964
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: an identity. I can promise you that. And because they look,

965
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: they've run you know gap and you'll, like you said,

966
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of gap, a lot

967
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: of duo and in power, you know, God's play. That's

968
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see. I'll make just to say what

969
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: back and.

970
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: You're unless they think this said, I mean maybe.

971
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you said it. Let's let's finish with that.

972
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: The guys that they have signed. We did not dig

973
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: into the Gus Edwards. You kind of briefly mentioned Will Disley,

974
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: but everybody had had tracked you know that connected that

975
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: those two dots Gus Edwards makes too much sense. And

976
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see if they maybe decide to get

977
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the other guy as well. On a one year flyer

978
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. Just bring Dobbin sober because man,

979
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm freaking.

980
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: So much upside there.

981
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Like give him ave minimum contract with like tons of

982
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: incentives up to you know, up to like that market

983
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: level of six million, and like if he comes back

984
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: from the injury and he's anything close to what he was, yes,

985
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: you know.

986
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: Before the Achilles or even before the a c L. Like,

987
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you've got two really good backs.

988
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: You compliment him with a with a rookie, and then

989
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you got really good competition in

990
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: camp as well, where Isaiah Spiller's got to prove himself.

991
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: He's going to stay on the roster. Like that plan

992
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: makes a makes a lot of sense to me as well.

993
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: I love the potential JK. Dobbins play if they can

994
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: set up the contract that way.

995
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just kidding gus out of here. And actually

996
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: not any legitimate big back who has shown can be productive,

997
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: yeah in this league something they haven't had. They have

998
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: not had a back like this since they arrived in

999
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Yeah.

1000
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: Like, I think we've talked about a lot of the

1001
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: issues with the running game that they're trying to fix.

1002
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: The one we haven't touched on.

1003
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: Is that, like they just never had that pure runner

1004
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: and they tried to find it, like that guy that's

1005
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: just downhill between the tackles that can play that type

1006
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: of bully style that you want in the run game.

1007
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Austin is a Eckler, is a fantastic player, like super dynamic,

1008
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: but the strength of his game was never as like

1009
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: a runner of the football, like he could do it,

1010
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: but where he brought value was as a pass catcher,

1011
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: you know, being able to line up in different spots

1012
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: and then being you know, in my opinion, maybe the

1013
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: best angle route.

1014
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Runner in the league.

1015
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: Joshua Kelly has some of those traits, but I just

1016
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: don't think he ever had sort of that natural feel

1017
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: of how to see the vision, how to hit holes.

1018
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: It just never felt really natural, and I think that

1019
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: was part of the reason he didn't take the step.

1020
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Some of it is the other stuff we talked about,

1021
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: between the blocking itself and the philosophy. So I think

1022
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, with Edwards, what you have is a guy

1023
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: that can be that type of bully like And the

1024
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: one thing that's really interesting to me about Gus Edwards is, yeah,

1025
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: he's twenty nine, but he doesn't have a ton of mileage. No,

1026
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: like you're talking about. I think it's like seven hundred

1027
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: and fifty maybe eight hundred career touches. Compare that to Eckler,

1028
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: who's at you know, two thousand career touches and is

1029
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: the same age.

1030
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: Like, I think it makes a lot of sense.

1031
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: You're not even paying that much for him, but you're

1032
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: also bringing in a guy who doesn't have a ton

1033
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: of mileage, and maybe these are the years where he

1034
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: becomes that workhorse and you can really put that load

1035
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: on him because he hasn't had that load in years past.

1036
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 3: So I think it makes a lot of sense.

1037
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, as far as the vision, the fit, the contract,

1038
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: all that, I thought it was a great sign.

1039
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell you how many third and ones,

1040
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: Like you're watching them trot Eckler out there or Joshua

1041
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: Chilly and it's like, will you give it to the

1042
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: guy who's two hundred and twenty pounds that's on the

1043
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: sideline at least gives Spiller the shot to make has happened,

1044
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: don't stop going with the guy that's two zero five.

1045
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: So to have someone with actual girth that can maybe

1046
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: push that file, you know the three feet that you

1047
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: needed to go. Not to mention, I would assume Greg

1048
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: Roman and Jim Arbar and have a very long conversation

1049
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: and making sure Justin Herbert's a lot more comfortable like

1050
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: quarterback sneaks, knowing how valuable that is and just that

1051
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: the other coordinators and coaches could not convey to him

1052
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: to be more effective on that front. Disally was someone

1053
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: that we had, you know, whether it was parkin center

1054
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: or Disley. It seemed like those Seattle tight ends were

1055
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: connected to the Charterers and well as well, and they

1056
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: finally get a tight end who is very good at

1057
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: blocking and plenty capable in the receiving game.

1058
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1059
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was looking through potential options

1060
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: that they could afford, and Disley was the guy that

1061
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: jumped out to me, you need a blocker like you

1062
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: need a guy that can block like and I shouldn't

1063
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: be getting like worked up about it because they finally

1064
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: signed the guy that I've been waiting for them to

1065
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: sign for five years. But it felt like I could

1066
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: not understand why they wouldn't go out and just get

1067
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: a blocking tight end on a cheap deal. You know,

1068
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: like there was all expensive, Chris Manhertz like two years million,

1069
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: like just go do it. Like there were opportunities to

1070
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: go sign one of these guys and they were like, no,

1071
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: we're going to roll with Gerald Everett and we believe

1072
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: Trem m kitty's going to take the step. And it's like, well,

1073
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm no football expert, but I was watching Trey McKitty

1074
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 2: week over week and I never saw it at any point,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know why the confidence was there, But bygones,

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Speaker 2: be bygones, right, Like I think, yes, what you're seeing

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Speaker 2: now is like, well, this coaching staff and the front

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Speaker 2: office are the line that they want to run the football.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to run the football, you got

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Speaker 2: to have a tight end that can block, and that's why.

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Speaker 3: They prioritized it.

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Speaker 2: So you go out with limited cap space, you get

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Speaker 2: a runner with the physicality that you're looking for, and

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00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: you get a professional blocker at tight end. And like

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Speaker 2: that to me is like, Okay, this makes a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense. You can see what the vision is, you

1087
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: can see what the process is, you can see what they.

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Speaker 3: Want to do.

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Speaker 2: They've said it publicly and it's aligned with the moves

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Speaker 2: that they're making. And I think it's it's a little

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00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: bit of a change of pace from from what we've

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Speaker 2: seen in recent seasons from the organization.

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Speaker 1: And I always said we were going to do about

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Speaker 1: thirty and we ended up with fifty one.

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Speaker 3: But we honestly we could.

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Speaker 1: We could. I got a prep for an Iowa Indiana

1097
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Speaker 1: or in Iowa, Iowa state, in a Penn State Indiana

1098
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: game tonight. So why I'm in a hotel room and

1099
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Speaker 1: it's why we have Daniel Popper looking like the Ultimate

1100
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Speaker 1: Warrior with the the sun coming through the blinds, trying

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: like hell, you're trying like l but.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, like when I'm working because I get great

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00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: natural light in my office, but it's not great for

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00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: when I'm recording podcasts because these are this is definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna get screenshotted and used as.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ultimate Warrior dude, it is. It is lined

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Speaker 1: up perfectly. There are moments where I'm telling you, man,

1108
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: we just got to get you some some sweet freaking

1109
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: suede tassels coming off your freaking swoll biceps and you

1110
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Speaker 1: will be good to go. Brother. That's our that's our

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Speaker 1: teas to get you to go to the YouTube and

1112
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Speaker 1: the Chargers dot Com to watch the video portion of it,

1113
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Speaker 1: but be sure to follow Daniel on Twitter, subscribe to

1114
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Speaker 1: The Athletic. It's it's just the best man. He does

1115
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: a hell of a job and you can post and

1116
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Speaker 1: stuff every single day and uh to put a button

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Speaker 1: on it because I like feeling like I'm right and

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Speaker 1: if you agree with me then that makes me feel good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you told me they can, they got to go

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Speaker 1: out and get one more free agent. JK. Dobbins is

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Speaker 1: my guy. Like, I was like that, just that makes

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00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: way too much sense to me. Obviously, they need a center,

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Speaker 1: they need defensive daggles, all that stuff. They're gonna go

1124
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Speaker 1: bargain shopping here these next couple of weeks once they

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Speaker 1: get the contract squared away with Joey and and Genan

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Speaker 1: and figure out how much more money they have.

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Speaker 3: But my guys, Bran do make so much sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there, I assume there's a cop pick there, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna cost that much.

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Speaker 3: No, he got cut. He got cut by the We

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Speaker 3: got cut. Yeah, I know, we got cut.

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Speaker 2: Perfect for the super Bowl team in twenty twenty one,

1133
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: but he lost to Todd the Coleman. Shelton last year,

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Speaker 2: so probably get him at a decent price because he

1135
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Speaker 2: didn't start last year. We were talking about at with

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Speaker 2: considerable experience in the playoffs as well.

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Speaker 3: That's the guy that.

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Speaker 2: Makes a ton of sense if they can get him

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Speaker 2: for the right price. But you know me, I'm always

1140
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Speaker 2: gonna focus on offensive linemen because exactly talking about it

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Speaker 2: until I see a complete unit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is our year, I feel it. It's

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Speaker 1: we're all lined up. It's all lined up. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: So appreciate you all, chargers weekly in the books. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: nothing new on Keenan Allen and Joey Bosa as the

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Speaker 1: time at the moment that we recorded this, so I

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Speaker 1: would assume that's going to get probably squarreed away in

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Speaker 1: the next couple days, maybe even hours by the time

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Speaker 1: we posted, So forgive us our trespasses if in fact

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Speaker 1: that happens. But thank you for for downloaded listening. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate your subscribe to your friends, rate comment, do it all,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back again next week.