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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Rico, joined

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Speaker 1: today by a very special guest. He is Derek Van

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Speaker 1: Riper from The Athletic, the host of Rates and Barrels. Derek,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. How you've

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Speaker 1: been doing doing great?

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Speaker 2: Joe, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure for our yearly chat. Typically it's over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It's come in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I think memory serves. We've done a third base preview,

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Speaker 1: we did an ADP battle last year with Jeff Ericson,

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Speaker 1: and today we're going to be doing a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a panic meter.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know it's very early, it's been about six seven

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Speaker 1: percent of the season, depending on which team you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: We're starting to get some sample sizes here, fifty or

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Speaker 1: so played appearances, and I get questions, you get questions.

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Speaker 1: We all get bombarded in the DMS. Is this player washed?

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Speaker 1: Should I drop Player A for player B? So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna run through it. A lot of these guys we

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Speaker 1: probably won't be overly concerned about, but these are ten

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Speaker 1: players we're going to be running through today have gotten

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Speaker 1: off to a bit of a slow start, and the

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Speaker 1: first one is a guy that you know. If i'm

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Speaker 1: I could probably put out a show sheet for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven podcasts with the same name and say Julio

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Speaker 1: Rodriguez will be off to a slow start, and I'd

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Speaker 1: probably be correct, because that's kind of what Julio Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: does every single year. This season is no different. Through

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Speaker 1: his first thirteen games. He has not hit a homer,

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Speaker 1: he's not stolen a base, The strikeout rates are up,

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Speaker 1: the contact rates are down. Everything looks very poor for

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Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez. A seventy percent in zone contact, twenty percent

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Speaker 1: swinging strike rate, only a three percent barrel rate. But

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Speaker 1: as I alluded to, this is kind of what Julio

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Speaker 1: Rodriguez does for his career. In the month of April,

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Speaker 1: it's an eighty three WRC plus and a six twenty

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Speaker 1: six ops. I'm not terribly concerned, but it's a daily

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Speaker 1: basis now where I'm getting what should I do with

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Speaker 1: who Julio Rodriguez? Should I be trading him? I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's washed or anything like that, but how concerning

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Speaker 1: are these slow starts? In April to you, Derek.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for Rodriguez in particular, almost not concerning at

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Speaker 2: all because of that past track record. I think some

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Speaker 2: guys are just slow starters. We know Seattle's difficult place

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Speaker 2: to hit. I think we've seen enough from Julio in

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Speaker 2: his young career to realize that he's going to get

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Speaker 2: there eventually. As far as the typical power speed combo

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Speaker 2: we're looking for, right, I mean, we've seen thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: years twice already. He's a lock with a full season

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Speaker 2: to get twenty twenty. I mean that's hard to pin

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Speaker 2: on anybody, especially someone as young as Rodriguez is, but

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Speaker 2: he's got that approach where he chases a lot. It's

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Speaker 2: part of what makes him good, right. He's going to

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Speaker 2: try and get a swings off and do damage, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes you're going to go into deep slumps. So when

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Speaker 2: it's not working, it's ugly. And when he's on fire,

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Speaker 2: he looks like the best player in the game. So

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Speaker 2: I see absolutely nothing to be worried about right now.

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Speaker 2: If there was some kind of lingering injury or something

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Speaker 2: see he's just healthy and having some of his typical

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Speaker 2: slow starter Julio tendencies that we've grown accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. If it was any other player and

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Speaker 1: we were seeing these tres, even though it's a small

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Speaker 1: that he does this pretty much, not even pretty much,

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Speaker 1: he does this every single year of his career. It's

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Speaker 1: been a poor April. So if you can trade for

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Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez, he's not going to be dropped, of course,

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Speaker 1: he's well above that range. But if you can trade

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Speaker 1: that people invested a second round pick here, Derek, how

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Speaker 1: concern should people be about cal Rawley?

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Speaker 2: More concerned? I think because I mean, like Julio, cal

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Speaker 2: Raley had the extra long season right, the Mariners deep

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Speaker 2: postseason run paired with World Baseball Classic, kind of a

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Speaker 2: it impacts them both. I think the other factor with

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Speaker 2: cal Raley as we have a track record where what

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Speaker 2: we saw in twenty twenty five was the best catcher

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Speaker 2: just ever where we go from there is something we

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Speaker 2: debated throughout the winter and my thought if I was

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Speaker 2: pop thirty homers in each of the previous two seasons.

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Speaker 2: So even if he regressed all the way back to

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Speaker 2: he was going to give you surplus value relative to

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Speaker 2: Even if he wasn't gonna be number one at the

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Speaker 2: could do something similar to last year. Rest of season projections,

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Speaker 2: type of player he's been for most of his career.

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Speaker 2: So this is another situation like Julio, where I'm kind

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Speaker 2: he's got something bothering him because catchers just get beat

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Speaker 2: that is going to hurt, Like it's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: long winded way of saying I think we know enough

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four batting averages when

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Speaker 2: he hit to twenty and two thirty two, and that's

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Speaker 2: probably where our expectations should have been the entire time.

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Speaker 2: So I would love to know if there's something else

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Speaker 2: coming off of the World Baseball Classic were not great.

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Speaker 2: all kind of unfortunate rhyming nicknames that are also probably

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Speaker 2: But generally my expectations were more in line with twenty

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe the best season to comp what cal

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Speaker 2: Rawley just did to was Salvador Perez in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: of paced that out of a full season that would

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Speaker 2: I think there were some reasonable warning signs all along

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially as a guy who logs as many

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Speaker 1: only William Contrerez has more played appearances. He's played four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven games, which is more than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: So a catchers in general are going to be more

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Speaker 1: You could argue that world Baseball classic stuff. I still

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Speaker 1: You know, the Mariners have been kind of creative with

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Speaker 1: we'd seen before. I thought that this was a bit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't. I think there was some legitimate beef

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Speaker 1: Rawly was a guy that I couldn't help but stay

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Speaker 1: second round catcher, it was just it's such a high

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Speaker 1: Was he somebody that you drafted at all coming into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him thinking maybe two out of fourteen leagues,

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Speaker 2: So he wasn't someone I targeted frequently. I think it

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Speaker 2: this way? I thought of him maybe a little bit

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Speaker 2: like Kyle Schwarber, but with catch your eligibility, but again

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Speaker 2: with a slightly lower home run total expectation because of

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Speaker 2: the occupational hazards of being a catcher. And yeah, the

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Speaker 2: fallout from the lack of a handshake with the Randy

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Speaker 2: later they wouldn't you know, we learned that that was

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Speaker 2: Team USA's way of conducting their business. It was like,

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Speaker 2: that's a choice. That's the choice that you or I

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought of The example I thought of

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Speaker 2: was at first Pitch Arizona, our buddy Sam Wershing hosted

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Speaker 2: a family feud game and we had a rates and

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Speaker 2: Barrel's team going up against the pictureless team, and I

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Speaker 2: went up to shake hands with Nick Pollock. That's family

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Speaker 2: feud tradition, right, and he pulled the hand back, just

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Speaker 2: just joking around. We're still friends, But like I kind

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Speaker 2: of took it more like that where I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. I was just kind of following the the

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Speaker 2: about it now. Clearly not quite the case with the WBC.

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Speaker 1: You'd think that it was nothing. I thought it was nothing,

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Speaker 1: But who knows. Maybe these things do linger with a

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Speaker 1: couple of a struggling Seattle Mariners. And of course that ballpark,

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Speaker 1: He's hitting the crap out of the ball. I mean

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Speaker 1: app for personalized expert advice. Let's talk about Nick Kurtz.

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Speaker 1: I was very much out on him. I thought the

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Speaker 2: I see a guy that I think is kind of

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Speaker 1: the season, and it comes back to the three guys

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Speaker 1: listed here, Rodriguez, Rowley and Josh Naylor. No homer, he

433
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Speaker 1: hasn't scored a run yet, he hasn't stolen a base.

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Speaker 1: He's hitting one oh four with a negative seventeen WRC plus. Yes,

435
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Speaker 1: that's that can go into the negative. It's been a

436
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Speaker 1: whole lot of bad for Josh Naylor. His contact rate

437
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Speaker 1: in the zone is down to eighty percent. The swinging

438
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Speaker 1: strike rate at twelve point six is the highest of

439
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Speaker 1: his career. His chase rate, which was already kind of

440
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Speaker 1: high at thirty seven percent, is up to forty. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to make of Josh Naylor, but I'm

442
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Speaker 1: a little bit worried. I have a couple shares of him,

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Speaker 1: and to this point, I am very far from impressed.

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Speaker 2: Derek, Yeah, I mean, nothing's gone right. Another World Baseball

445
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Speaker 2: Classic guy where you wonder if the reps and the

446
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: way that tournament works and getting ready for the season,

447
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: if something's a little bit off. There just seems like

448
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Speaker 2: a slump across the board for this entire lineup right now,

449
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Speaker 2: and it's weird, and the chase is still in the

450
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Speaker 2: range of what we've seen. I would say, like Julio,

451
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Speaker 2: Naylor's pretty aggressive. I think the back to ball skills

452
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: have been great through his career. The only time we've

453
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: ever seen him strike out twenty percent of the time

454
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Speaker 2: in the season was his first year in the big leagues.

455
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Speaker 2: With the Padres back in twenty nineteen. Underlying numbers in

456
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Speaker 2: terms of hard hit rate down slightly, But when you

457
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Speaker 2: know fully played twelve games, I guess it's one of

458
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Speaker 2: these things where I'm looking at it and saying, I'm

459
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Speaker 2: not that worried. I think the problem with Josh Naylor

460
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Speaker 2: that I couldn't really solve during draft season was the

461
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Speaker 2: stolen based projection, you know, like I believe in the

462
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: value of good coaching and being opportunistic and catching teams

463
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Speaker 2: off guard the way he did, I had no sense

464
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Speaker 2: for like what I wanted to put down in my

465
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Speaker 2: projections for him. What were you expecting he had thirty

466
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Speaker 2: for thirty two as a base dealer last year, were

467
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Speaker 2: you expecting ten twenty thirty?

468
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Like, where did you go on that?

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Speaker 1: So I draft with a document open, with an aggregate

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Speaker 1: of different projections, and with Josh Naylor, I would manually

472
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Speaker 1: lower that myself. The projections coming into the season were

473
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Speaker 1: typically the high teens, some of them were in the

474
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Speaker 1: mid teens, and I would usually put in nine or

475
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Speaker 1: ten and expecting somewhere in that range, and then anything

476
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Speaker 1: else is gravy. Considering that he did have a prior

477
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Speaker 1: season with tens deals in twenty twenty three over fewer

478
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Speaker 1: than five hundred played appearances to go down to six

479
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and then he blew up last season.

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Speaker 1: Part of it, though, I think that I don't know

481
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Speaker 1: if this was discussed a lot, but when you are

482
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Speaker 1: up for a contract, you will do certain things that

483
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Speaker 1: you maybe wouldn't do in a normal season. Play through

484
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Speaker 1: some nagging injuries, try and maximize the plate appearances, do

485
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Speaker 1: some extra things to pad the stat line. And in

486
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Speaker 1: fifty four games coming over to Seattle, he stole nineteen

487
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Speaker 1: bags down the stretch, which is just an insane It's

488
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Speaker 1: a sixty stolen base space for Josh Naylor. And part

489
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Speaker 1: of that might have been, Look, I'm going up for

490
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Speaker 1: a new contract this year. I want to try and

491
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Speaker 1: maximize my earnings. But going forward, especially in the first

492
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Speaker 1: year of a contract, you know, looking at all these

493
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Speaker 1: rest of season projections, the lowest one is eleven. I

494
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Speaker 1: might take the under on even eleven going forward, just

495
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Speaker 1: seeing the way the season started. Maybe that's overreacting, but

496
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Speaker 1: if you get ten from him going forward, I think

497
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Speaker 1: you should be pretty happy with that.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you look back through old player

499
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Speaker 2: updates too. You see that Naylor plays through a lot

500
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Speaker 2: of stuff most years, like that's just kind of part

501
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Speaker 2: of what he's done. I think it's been knee stuff.

502
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Speaker 2: I don't remember all the specific injuries, but I think

503
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Speaker 2: the knee in particular was one that I saw and

504
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Speaker 2: I thought, maybe that's a longer term concern than we realize.

505
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Speaker 2: But you can take a Frankenstein approach to what he's

506
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Speaker 2: done over his career, and you can say, this guy

507
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: hit three h eight back in twenty twenty three, and

508
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: he popped thirty one homers in twenty twenty four, and

509
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: he stole thirty bases in twenty twenty five. He's always

510
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: going to do something good for you. How many times

511
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Speaker 2: can he do more than three things good for you

512
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Speaker 2: at once counting the other roto categories. And I think

513
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Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a question based on that

514
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Speaker 2: injury concern. I think the other part of the equation too.

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Speaker 2: Once the player, it's a long term deal. I'm not

516
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Speaker 2: the guy that's like, oh yeah, I don't try anymore.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't believe in that. I think what teams do

518
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Speaker 2: is teams play. It's safer with guys they've signed a

519
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Speaker 2: five year deals, right, I mean like there's a there's

520
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Speaker 2: a shared interest in saying, hey, we're paying your ninety

521
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Speaker 2: two point five million dollars over the next five years.

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Speaker 2: If your knee hurts, we're gonna give you a week off.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put you on the eyel And I do

524
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Speaker 2: think some of that kind of like the incentive to

525
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Speaker 2: push through has been flipped. And when that happens and

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Speaker 2: you start to lose playing time, and you know, that's

527
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Speaker 2: the the other sort of built in concern I have.

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Speaker 2: So ultimately, I don't know how he gets there. I

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Speaker 2: have zero shares of Josh Naylor. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: fun player. It was a little more of the I

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Speaker 2: don't know what I'm getting, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: do something else and let someone else worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took him, I think in two out of

534
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Speaker 1: my I think it's seventeen total leagues this year, not

535
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Speaker 1: all managed. There's a couple of gladiators and things like

536
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Speaker 1: that in there. But took him a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Kind of going back to what you said, whether it's

538
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Speaker 1: the adding average, the homers, it's some chipping speed. There's

539
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Speaker 1: one one hundred and eight RBI season a couple of

540
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Speaker 1: years ago for a not great Cleveland team. He's going

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Speaker 1: to figure out a way to be a profitable pick.

542
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Speaker 1: But there's also, you know, the argument that he doesn't

543
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Speaker 1: really have a strong fantasy carrying tool. You can say

544
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Speaker 1: the batting average, but he's also got a two forty

545
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Speaker 1: three on the line in the last couple of seasons

546
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Speaker 1: as well. So for those players where there's not one

547
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Speaker 1: specific standout thing, the power is pretty good, but the

548
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Speaker 1: barrel rates never exceeded eight and a half percent, heart

549
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Speaker 1: hit rates never gone about forty two, especially a whole

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Speaker 1: year in this ballpark, which he's never had to deal

551
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Speaker 1: with as well. Kind of wish that I had just

552
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Speaker 1: waited and took Tyler Sooderstrom or a Wilson Contreras or

553
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Speaker 1: somebody in the spots where I did take him. But

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Speaker 1: let's hope that things turn it around. I'm always rooting

555
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Speaker 1: a little bit extra hard for my fellow Canadians, and

556
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Speaker 1: let's hope that Josh Naylor does figure things out. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about pitchers coming up. There's I think

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Speaker 1: Let's talk some pitching and we'll kick it off with

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Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish. There's kind of a bit of a range

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Speaker 1: here with the hitters. It's a lot of the star

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Speaker 1: names we talked about here, things do range a little bit,

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Speaker 1: the five names you were going to talk about, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Bradish was the guy who was going the highest of

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Speaker 1: this group, and to this point I've been kind of unimpressed.

599
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Speaker 1: You know, the underlying numbers are quite a bit better

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Speaker 1: than what we've seen on the surface. He made a

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Speaker 1: bit of a boneheaded play in the field yesterday that

602
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: led to a run scoring, but the walks have been

603
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: pretty bad to this point. Fifteen percent. You know, he

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00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: has the five twenty seven era. He has nearly a

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Speaker 1: one to seven zero whip. I'm not overly concerned, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think early investors are terribly happy with Kyle

607
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Speaker 1: Braddish to this point. Derek, what is your concern level

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Speaker 1: for Drafters or perhaps yourself if you have any shares.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him in two leagues. It would probably

610
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: have been more if other people didn't also like him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I felt like you could talk yourself into

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Speaker 2: bradish maybe as one of your wait for an SP

613
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Speaker 2: one options potentially. I saw similarities before TJ for him

614
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: where he started looking like Pete Corbyn Burns and he

615
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: doesn't look like that guy right now. Slight velocity drops

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Speaker 2: kind of on everything across the board. We're talking like

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Speaker 2: a half tick I think on the fast balls, maybe

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Speaker 2: a full tick on one of the breaking balls. The

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Speaker 2: command is probably the issue right now.

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Speaker 1: I think that's.

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Speaker 2: Where you'll see if you look at like a location

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Speaker 2: plus number that's down. The first thing I always think

623
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Speaker 2: of this early though, is command maybe being a little

624
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Speaker 2: more erratic because of weather. It's still cold, it's still rainy.

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Speaker 2: I know, even on the Wednesday against the White Sox

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that bad defensive play that was just like

627
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Speaker 2: a mental lapse basically, and it allowed Chase my Draft

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Speaker 2: to score on a throw back from the catcher.

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Speaker 1: But the.

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Speaker 2: General takeaway I have here is everything for Kyle revolves

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Speaker 2: around that slider, and that slider is still very good.

632
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Speaker 2: So I think this is kind of like a a

633
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Speaker 2: command slump, if such a thing exists, I think contextually,

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Speaker 2: I think it does. I think two out of his

635
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: three starts have been away from home. That matters a lot.

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Speaker 2: In a small sample side too, we know that Pictures

637
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Speaker 2: was better at home. Generally speaking, they get a few

638
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: more calls, the comforts, the familiarity with the mound, all

639
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff kind of ways in. So I'm

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Speaker 2: patiently waiting for Bradish to turn it around. Maybe it

641
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: turns into more of a clear SP two SP three

642
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Speaker 2: type as opposed to the upward trajectory I had on

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Speaker 2: him coming off of the impressive return from TJ last year,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't expecting to strike out thirty seven percent

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Speaker 2: of the batters he's facing. Again, that was absurd last

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Speaker 2: year after he came back. But I think, you know,

647
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Speaker 2: high twenty percent k rate, which he's done so far,

648
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: as doable. And I don't think he's a major liability

649
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: in the walks category. But I probably underestimated some of

650
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 2: the past struggles with free passes. So I look at

651
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: the projections, I see one two whips kind of across

652
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: the board. That seems appropriate, like a mid to high

653
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: three's era, a one to two whip kind of your

654
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: second or third starter in a fifteen team league. And

655
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: I was pushing him a little too hard at the

656
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: beginning of the draft season.

657
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I might have been as well. But I do agree

658
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: with you about the command slump. He does have seasons

659
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: where he's been in the nine percent walk rate range,

660
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: various sample sizes there, but he has struggled a little

661
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: bit with command, but not to this extent. I think

662
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: if you if you look at the location plus numbers,

663
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: there's stuff plus location plus pitching plus he's always scored

664
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: very highly in location and pitching plus one O six,

665
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: one O nine, one ten, one oh seven. Those are

666
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: ninety five and ninety seven respectively, and I think that

667
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: is some small sample size stuff going on there. He

668
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: will correct that couple starts in a row away from home.

669
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, sleeping in your own bed is something I

670
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: think there's maybe a little bit underrated when we're evaluating pitchers.

671
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I think Bratish will turn things around. I had kind

672
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: of thought I was pushing him up boards myself. I

673
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: have a you Shares. My thinking was, this is kind

674
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: of what Trek Scoobel did a couple of years ago.

675
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: He comes back for a short period of time at

676
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I'llbe at schoobl had a

677
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: bigger sample size at the end of twenty twenty three,

678
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: but he dominates, and then the next year you take

679
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: that next step forward where you're able to throw a

680
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: lot more innings, you're able to sustain the dominance over

681
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: the entire season, and maybe that is coming for Bradish,

682
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: but he's off to a pretty rough start. I don't

683
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: think either of us is overly concerned, though. I think

684
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: if people are panicking, I don't think people are dropping

685
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish. But you never know if you're playing in

686
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: like a ten team league and somebody's looking at the

687
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: sample size maybe they're already sick of him. Probably not,

688
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: but maybe throw in a little bit of a low

689
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: ball offer and see if you get lucky. Emtchian is

690
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: a guy that I'm not sure I would even want

691
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: to throw in a low ball off or on. I

692
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: have a bunch of shares, another guy that was being

693
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: chased up draft boards, and I think the main event

694
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: at the NFBC, which is their marquee contest, the eighteen

695
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: hundred dollars entry fee fifteen team rot League. I think

696
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: his ADP ended up around eighty five or so, which

697
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: is looking pretty dark through the first nine innings of

698
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: work for him. He does have a win, which was

699
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: merciful for us considering the ratios he's put on US

700
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: eight ERA and a one eighty nine whip. The strikeout

701
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: rate is down. Something that Nick Pollock was pointing out

702
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: before the season started is that his velocity was not

703
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: maintaining throat his starts, and that has carried over into

704
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: the regular season. He was sitting ninety five six on

705
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: his fastball last year. He's setting ninety three to nine

706
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: to this point in the season. The stuff has gone

707
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: down from one oh one to eighty eight. I'm a

708
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: little bit concerned here, Derek, especially without a long track

709
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: record to fall back on with them Achian, Yeah.

710
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't have him anywhere. I just let the price

711
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: got too high. I didn't see the same kinds of

712
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: ceiling for Shean as I do for Jacob Mazerowski or

713
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Chase Burns or Cam Schlitzler. And I'll like, I'll readily

714
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: admit I didn't have Schlitzler number one ahead of all

715
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: those guys by any sort of measure. I think of

716
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: that group, he was a little like more in the

717
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: bottom half for me. So don't don't make it. See

718
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make it seem like I was all

719
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: over Cam Schlitzer and have him everywhere, because I don't.

720
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: But I just think this this emit Shean problem beyond

721
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: the velocity. You know, the Dodgers have good pitching depth.

722
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Blake Snell comes back eventually, maybe not as far away

723
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: as we thought. That's kind of nice to have River Ryan,

724
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: I think is really interesting, and I think there's a

725
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: chance maybe he gets a look at some point. There's

726
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: a world in which Shean moves to the bullpen, or

727
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: she ain't, gets sent down for a little while and

728
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: has to come back, or is dealing with an injury,

729
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: and that's why the velo's down as much as it is.

730
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 2: So I think this is one where the actionable step

731
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: if you have him is really hard to figure out.

732
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: You know, if you have him in an NFBC style league,

733
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: he's still probably too good to just simply cut loose.

734
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: He starts for the best team in baseball. He could

735
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: find something mechanically that gets some of that velocity back.

736
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: He could change the pitch mix a little bit and

737
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: lean less heavily on the fastball and find success that way.

738
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: All those things are possible. So to more about how

739
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: you want to use the rest of your life. I

740
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: think this is to me it's kind of a cliche now,

741
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: but it's this is what a bench is for, right.

742
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: If you're really worried about Shean, you're probably not dropping him.

743
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: But I think you can justify sitting him down if

744
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: he's got matchups that you don't like, you know, if

745
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: he's on the road, or you just don't feel good

746
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: about it. I don't think you're wrong to sit him

747
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: down and wait for him to turn some things around

748
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: before using him again.

749
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: A little bit of a mixed bag in his upcoming schedule.

750
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: His next start, if everything stays on track, is against Texas,

751
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: and I think I'm probably all right to test him

752
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: out against Texas doesn't make me feel amazing, But after

753
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: that it's at Corsefield, and I don't know if I'm

754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be throwing him at Corsefield right now. However

755
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: poor the Rockies are, that venue still does scare me.

756
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Whatever time of year it is. It doesn't scare me

757
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: as much in April as it would in maybe July,

758
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: but a struggling pitcher who's vlos down in course Field

759
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: feels a little bit risky to me, especially because it's

760
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: going to come early in the week. If you are

761
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: a head to head player and you put him out

762
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: there on a Tuesday destroyed, you know that that could

763
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: be the kind of thing that really does, really does

764
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: hurt you for the rest of the week. But I

765
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: think that Shean is a guy that I am pretty

766
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: concerned about going forward, and I wish that I did

767
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: not push him up draft boards. That feels like a

768
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: bit of a mistake pushing him inside of the top

769
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: one hundred the couple times that I did. Let's talk

770
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Abouba Chandler another guy that you know, he didn't get

771
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: quite as much love, but I did start to see

772
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: him go up the draft boards a little bit towards

773
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: the end of draft season. The second half of March.

774
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: The first two starts have been interesting, to say the

775
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: least for Bubba Chandler. His first start was six walks

776
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: and six strikeouts, although he did not allow a hit,

777
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: and he followed that up against the Padres four and

778
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: a third, three earned runs, four walks and four strikeouts

779
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: in that one. So the command has been horrible. He

780
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: has not at all carried over the small sample size

781
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: that he had in the majors at the end of

782
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, where he had a three percent walk

783
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think he'll be at twenty five percent,

784
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: but this command has been a concern for him in

785
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: the miners. There was part of the reason why he

786
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't get called up as early as we might have

787
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: thought he should have last year, that twelve percent walk

788
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: right in the minors. Derek, what is your concern level

789
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: on Bubba Chandler going forward?

790
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 2: It's weirdly high. I only have him in a keeper

791
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: league in aut a new keeper league. I have him

792
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere else, so I have time on my side,

793
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I can be patient in the one league where I

794
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: have him in ten or twelve team mixed league, you

795
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: really are thinking about cutting him loose. And it's strange.

796
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: He's averaging ninety nine point one on the four seamer,

797
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: my thing that I'm really not in love with. Aside

798
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: from the free passes. He's throwing the four steamer seventy

799
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: percent of the time. That's not a thing starters do, right,

800
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just unless you can command

801
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: it really well and then you have a second pitch.

802
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: You could do the fastball slider thing like Peak Strider did.

803
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't think this actually works all that well, and

804
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm surprised it's gone this poorly early on. If you

805
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: can wait it out in the great but it just

806
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: seems like he doesn't have a feel for any of

807
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: those secondaries right now. Whether that's an actual long term

808
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: problem or just some kind of temporary issue. Again, I'll

809
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: mention the cold and the damp weather, like maybe that's

810
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: part of the problem for him, But I didn't think

811
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: it would start off this rough form of a Chandler.

812
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at pitchers this season who have thrown

813
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: you have to lower the sample sizes a little bit,

814
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: but seventy percent fastball. There's a couple of relievers who

815
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: are doing that. The only starter who's close is Mizerowski

816
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: at sixty two percent. It's just too high to rely

817
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: on one pitch. However good the pitch is his fastball.

818
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: It has been lauded for years. But he also has

819
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: a decent slider. You know, I think the curveball is

820
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: not bad at changeup, he just doesn't use them. He

821
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: doesn't use them at all. The usage on all those

822
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: pitches has suffered for the fastball this year, and the

823
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: stuff on that fastball has gone from one o eight

824
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: to one hundred. I am concerned about a Bubba Chandler.

825
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: He's a guy where I think you are just watching

826
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: the schedule for now and picking your spots. The next

827
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: start is at Wrigley. I don't know if I really

828
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: want to do that. After that, he gets the Rays

829
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: at Texas versus Saint Louis versus Cincinnati. You know, there's

830
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: some good teams, there's some bad teams that I don't

831
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: really feel great about starting him at all. Though the

832
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: more I think about it, he might be a guy

833
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: where you just leave him on the bench for a

834
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: couple of turns and see if he gets right. I

835
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to drop him right away,

836
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're in a ten or twelve

837
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: team league and you see one of those guys who

838
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, the Jose Sorianos, the Kyle Harrisons of the world,

839
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: would you be willing to make a switch off of

840
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Bubba Chandler if he is your perceived worst pitcher right now,

841
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: or would you want to give him at least a

842
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: couple more weeks.

843
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: I think I would make a swap for Sorianohan Redraft.

844
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's made some adjustments to his

845
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: fastball mix. He's always had good stuff. You're playing more

846
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: for the short term and Redraft anyways, Sometimes my brain

847
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: tricks me to think that the better long term guy,

848
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: or the higher ceiling long term guys the way to go.

849
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: But I actually think Soriano would be my choice over

850
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Bubba Chandler if I had that option. A lot of

851
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: it reminds me of early career Taj Bradley right now.

852
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean Taj Bradley has prior to this season never

853
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: really shown consistently good command. I think if you remember

854
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: the Taj Bradley experience. You'd get random good starts and

855
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: you'd start to get confident and start them, and then

856
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: the command would go away and he would just get hammered.

857
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: And the other kind of part of the problem that

858
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: Trevor May has talked about on rates and barrels before,

859
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: it's just that everything Taj was throwing previously was in

860
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: a pretty similar velocity band. He didn't have anything that

861
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: was keeping hitters timing from just being locked in on

862
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: mostly fastballs. And if Bubba Chandler's going to throw his

863
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: four seamer seventy percent of the time, he's got that

864
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: power change at ninety three one, he's got the gyro

865
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: at ninety that's still like all of its fast, like,

866
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: all of it's thrown hard, like there's there's nothing, there's

867
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: nothing to slow down timing. So you compair that with

868
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: the lack of command so far, that's where I think

869
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: these growing pains could really become problematic. I guess the

870
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: question is, like, if we can panic this much after

871
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: two or three starts for these guys, does two or

872
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: three good starts pull you back in for any of them?

873
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: Like if if she and or Chandler come out and

874
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: just shove for all of ten innings. Are you just

875
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: right back into how you felt about them back when

876
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: you drafted them.

877
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: It's probably wrong, but I think I probably would be

878
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: if she's out there pumping ninety six the next time around.

879
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: For him, it's a lot more with the velocity, because

880
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: I think even if he has a good start where

881
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: he's sitting at ninety three, I'd still be concerned with

882
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Bubba Chandler. I think it does come down to that

883
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: command that can go up and down. You never I

884
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: wrote up Joe Boyle yesterday or two days ago about

885
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: how his command is a lot better this year, and

886
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: of course he has a horrible start yesterday. There is

887
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of up and down this point of the season.

888
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: But I think if Bubba pumped off, you know, over

889
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: the next three starts, if he was walking like one

890
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: batter per start or something like that, I'd be willing

891
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: to talk myself back in the talent level so high.

892
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I think this is just a pitch mix thing, and

893
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: if they do mix it right, get the fastball back

894
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: down around fifty percent, start incorporating some of us pretty

895
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: good other off, and he could be successful here. You know,

896
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: listen to Paul Skins talk Talk with Paul Skins and

897
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: see you can get some tricks of the trade from

898
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: arguably the best pitcher in baseball, who is sitting right

899
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: next to you in the clubhouse. A couple more pitchers

900
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: we are going to discuss here. Shane McClanahan is next up,

901
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know that we're ever going to see

902
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Shane McClanahan of old. Maybe it's you know, throwing him

903
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: out a little bit too early, But for a guy

904
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: who hasn't pitched in several seasons after two major surgeries,

905
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the fastball velocity is not there. Maybe it will return

906
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: at some point, but he's two ticks lower than he was,

907
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: not just on his fastball, but on his slider, on

908
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: his curve ball. Everything is diminished, and the stuff on

909
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: that fastball has gone from where it was a robust

910
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: one eleven one oh five down to eighty two. The

911
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: walks are a huge problem for me, though, Derek. I

912
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: think mcclanahan's the type of guy where I would be

913
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: trying to sell him off of the name value before

914
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: the bottom really falls out. But there's also the argument

915
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: that as he builds up, he will get stronger. Where

916
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: do you follow in that argument?

917
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: I like him in leagues or you gotl spots. That's

918
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: the only type of league in which I drafted him.

919
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: I say that as someone who really liked watching him

920
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: pitch before he got hurt. But first couple starts so

921
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: far ninety one point seven percent zone contact percentage. You

922
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: might remember when we last saw Shane McClanahan, he was

923
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: under eighty percent. That's where Capital a Aces live, right,

924
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: So I do think there's a need to recalibrate expectations.

925
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: I think you're right to leave your mind open to

926
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: the possibility that as he comes up with a new mix,

927
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: as the Rays try and figure out what Shane McClanahan

928
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: two point zero really should do to get hitters out,

929
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: that they might tweak some things. I just wonder how

930
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: far you can go with eighty location plus as a starter.

931
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing in the Arsenal's being commanded well right now,

932
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: but two full years without pitching in a big league

933
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: game is a lot of rust. So I have tried

934
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: to open my mind to that possibility that, you know,

935
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: what we see maybe in May and beyond ends up

936
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: being a lot more consistent. From that perspective. I do

937
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: think I've lowered the expectations regardless of the command, though

938
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: I think twenty five percent k rate is kind of

939
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: like what you see, what you get now for him.

940
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't think the k rate's coming back to three

941
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: absence Shane McClanahan, but you could still be a good

942
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: picture with that.

943
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Right.

944
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: He's still averaging almost ninety five on the four seamer,

945
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: so if he throws it less and leans on the

946
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: secondaries more, the changeup looks really good in the stuff model,

947
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: which is not usually something we say about change ups.

948
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: The slider is still good. I think it's just going

949
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: to be a matter of the command and feel for

950
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: those pitches getting better for McClanahan to remain a lineup

951
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: fixture for us. I think the other thing to think about.

952
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: They're back in the trap, right, so the floor for

953
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: those home starts is a little bit higher than it

954
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: would have been had he made this return a year

955
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: ago and had to deal with Steinbrunner Field.

956
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to believe, I really do. And the

957
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: fact that he's walked twenty percent of batters and yet

958
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: still has a three fifty two FIP and a one

959
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: point fifteen whip is kind of encouraging, and hopefully he

960
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: can build back over the course of the season. He

961
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite pitchers and I'm really hoping

962
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: that some of these projections, which still have him in

963
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: the low threes, I mean Steamer three thirty six, Zips

964
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: three thirty seven, I really hope that he can return

965
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: to that, but I'm not sure that it's coming. Maybe

966
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: this year and maybe he needs a year to build

967
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: back up, and next year is when we should invest

968
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: in Shane McClanahan. This just doesn't feel right. As you mentioned,

969
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: the eighty location plus is just it. It's really hard

970
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: to overcome as a starter Trump or no trap. I

971
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: am very worried about Shane McClanahan. One more picture. We

972
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: will wrap up with Ranger Suarez, a guy that I

973
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: wasn't heavily investing in at all. I think I do

974
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: have one or two shares where I was kind of

975
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: struggling and needed a fourth starting pitcher and he was there.

976
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't taken him because he is a

977
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: guy who has really gotten off to a bad start.

978
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: An eight sixty four Era one ninety two whip. Obviously

979
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: it's only a couple starts, but he's been bad. The

980
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: strikeouts are nowhere to be seen at thirteen percent. The

981
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: walk rate has jumped up to eight percent after the

982
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: last two years. Being around six doesn't sound like a

983
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: big difference, but what you're only striking out thirteen percent

984
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: of batters it is ninety six percent zone contact. The

985
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: swinging strike rate is below eight percent. As a guy

986
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: who operates on the margins, it feels like Ranger Suarez

987
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: may have tipped over to the side of unusability at

988
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: this point and now maybe he gets it back. But

989
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: for a guy who throws ninety one on his fastball,

990
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: who is not really, you know, an overpowering pitcher at all,

991
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: I am concerned about Ranger Suarez, especially pitching at Fenway.

992
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: Derek, Yeah, I mean, a lefty that doesn't miss as

993
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: many bats as you'd like, really has a hard time

994
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: in that park. Since righty's have the monster just smoke

995
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: balls and play off of that, and that just causes

996
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: all sorts of problems. I think you're right to call

997
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: it out just because Suarez from a velocity perspective, has

998
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: had a multi year trend of losing a little bit

999
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: each of the last three seasons now, I think, and

1000
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: now he's at that point ninety ninety one where there's

1001
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: nothing left to lose. You're so dependent upon command secondaries

1002
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: keeping hitters off balance. I think there's reason to believe that. Look,

1003
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: the bounce back could be something to the effect of

1004
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: a twenty to twenty two percent k rate, but that's

1005
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: going to be lower end of what we've seen from

1006
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: over the last five years. Are you gonna use him

1007
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: for all of his home starts like when the Yankees

1008
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: come to town? Are you actually throwing Ranger Suarez out there?

1009
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: Even if he looks a lot better Like there's there's

1010
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: a lot I didn't like about this signing. I was

1011
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: a little surprised the Red Sox did it, given their

1012
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: overall pitching development and where that's gone. It seemed like Connolly,

1013
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: early Peyton Toley, some of the guys they had recently

1014
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: moved to their system looked ready to contribute, so I

1015
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: was surprised they chose to reallocate some of the money

1016
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: that was going to go to Ralphael Devers into Ranger

1017
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Suarez despite postseason success and a good resume on a

1018
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: printing basis, I've never fully understood how he's been able

1019
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: to get results as good as what he gets, especially

1020
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: having a deal with other hitters for the rest of

1021
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: his career.

1022
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: Right.

1023
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Philly's a tough place to pitch too, So

1024
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: I've always been a skeptic. I'm still a skeptic. I

1025
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: just think whittling away at the what's he bouncing back

1026
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: to expectations is sort of a necessity with Suarez.

1027
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and playing in the American League Geese to go

1028
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: along with that ballpark. You know this upcoming schedule, he

1029
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: has Saint Louis his next scheduled start, which I'm okay

1030
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: with that at Saint Louis, But then after that you

1031
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: get Detroit, who is no joke, You get the Yankees,

1032
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: you get at Toronto, and then you get versus Houston.

1033
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty tricky schedule for ranger Suarez, mixing

1034
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: in home and away starts there. I would be a

1035
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: little bit cautious for the time being. I'm not cutting

1036
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: him because he is the type of guy where he

1037
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: will surprise us. He's been surprising us for half a

1038
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: decade now, and if he does pull off a long

1039
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: stretch of productivity this year, I wouldn't be shocked by it,

1040
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: but I'm not trusting him at the moment either. All

1041
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: the underlying data is bad. And even though he has

1042
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: been a guy without the big v los and no

1043
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: not the sexiest pitcher of the years, he's still putting

1044
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: up good underlying numbers in these seasons. But right now

1045
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: we're looking at an eight to sixty expected era. We're

1046
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 1: looking at a six eighteen FIP, a five percent strike

1047
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: up might as walk rate. A lot has gone wrong

1048
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: for Ranger Suarez. Don't cut him yet, but definitely definitely

1049
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: keep a close eye before putting him into your lineup. Derek,

1050
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: this has been a lot of fun. I really appreciate

1051
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: you coming on today.

1052
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Always good to catch

1053
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: up with you. Joe. It's fun just talking about players.

1054
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: I know it's early. I know that always leaves people

1055
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: probably frustrated with some of the analysis because we're not

1056
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: panicking as hard as the people that have Ranger Suarez

1057
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: on a bunch of rosters. I mean, it's a different

1058
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: problem when it's your problem. That's the one thing I've

1059
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: tried to kind of plant into my head and when

1060
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: I get questions and I'm like, nah, nah, don't worry

1061
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, well, think about how you'd feel

1062
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: if you did have Ranger Suarez.

1063
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: You would feel pretty terrible April. Historically, whatever fantasy sport

1064
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: you cover, it could be any of the major sports.

1065
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: The early season content is always the hardest. You don't

1066
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: want to overreact, you don't want to underreact. Jordan Walker's

1067
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: not gonna break out, He's not gonna Well he's had

1068
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: five home runs in the first week. Well, baby, he

1069
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: doesn't hit another one for the next month. We don't

1070
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. It makes April very hard

1071
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: to cover, but it's a lot easier with bright minds

1072
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: like Derek taking time out of their day to talk

1073
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Speaker 1: to us. What's going on at rates of barrels and

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Speaker 1: in the athletic anything you want to plug before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean five days a week right now, actually

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Speaker 2: going to six days a week starting next week. Jason

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Speaker 2: Stark and Doug Glanville are joining us for Starkville's on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: So the feed is bigger and better than ever. Love

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Speaker 2: having those guys as part of our show, and they

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Speaker 2: always get awesome guests too, so looking forward to those conversations. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're rolling now. It's kind of nice, like the ability

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Speaker 2: to veer away from fantasy some days when when it's

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Speaker 2: the early part of the season and we're kind of

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Speaker 2: letting things develop. That's been great. We actually did a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a card talk on the show on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We had a hobbyist turn pro dealer join us that

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Speaker 2: kind of talked about some of the changes since a

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Speaker 2: lot of us. If you grew up in the eighties

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Speaker 2: and nineties buying junk wacks and you've kind of gone

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Speaker 2: back into collecting in the last few years, maybe since

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Speaker 2: the pandemic, it's a lot different than it was when

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Speaker 2: we were kids. So we brought on Sean Campbell to

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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, what you should be looking out for,

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Speaker 2: how you can be a savvy collector in a market

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Speaker 2: that's actually popping, like cards are pricing. People generally are

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Speaker 2: buying everything up if it's it's good or if it

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Speaker 2: could be valu valuable. So it was a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun doing some stuff like that too, and just looking

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Speaker 2: forward to this entire season full like we did a

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Speaker 2: full reboot, like we've got a new new music, new

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Speaker 2: video production, all sorts of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: New logo I saw on the podcasting app as well.

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Speaker 1: A lot a lot of cool stuff going on. I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of starting to slowly get into the hobby. I

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Speaker 1: actually got the card here to sign Roy Halliday card

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Speaker 1: and I got it for Christmas from a friend and

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Speaker 1: it kind of got me thinking, Like when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, I used to love cards. It was it

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Speaker 1: could have been Pokemon cards, it could have been hockey,

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Speaker 1: football anything. I was just really into them. Got all

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Speaker 1: the way out of it, and now I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: slowly getting back in it is. It is a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Make sure you guys are checking out everything

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Speaker 1: at the Athletic, that show and everything else that these

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Speaker 1: guys are putting together five six days a week podcasting

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Speaker 1: that is phenomenal stuff with Eno and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the gang over there. We'll be back for leading off tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: There's tons of stuff going on the channel. To make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys subscribing. By the time this gets posted,

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Speaker 1: we might have eclipsed the thirty thousand subscriber threshold, but

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Speaker 1: Joe Pizapia and Chris Welsh have promised to dress up

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Speaker 1: as Paul Skeens and Livy Dunn for the show. After

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Speaker 1: they reached thirty thousand. I have no idea. I think

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Speaker 1: that was a fan vote or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: now Joe is going to be stuck dressing like Livy done.

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Speaker 1: So that one should be entertaining. Hit the subscribe button

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Speaker 1: so you can see that one when it drops. But

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Speaker 1: for Derek Van Riper, I am Joe Rico. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next time right here on the Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast.

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