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Speaker 1: walk around and see these beautiful black men and women

427
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: just owning their dread locks, their natural hair, their style,

428
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: their swag, their their voice there whatever, and and and

429
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: seeing the diversity the diaspora of blackness on one campus

430
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: and didn't been able to step out in a city

431
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: like d C and being able to go to like

432
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: a youth street or a sixteen street or whatever and

433
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: like get this cultural experience of different foods and people

434
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: and growing up in the Midwest, it was like black

435
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: and white. That's all we had, and it was like

436
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: anything else, you know, So it was it was just

437
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: great to kind of get out and see the world

438
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: in a different way. And I think as an artist,

439
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: I needed that, like I need I observe people. I

440
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, I take all of that information and I

441
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: feel like every experience in your life, at least as

442
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: an actor, I feel like, because I could act, that's

443
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: the only thing I can speaking. Yeah, it it it.

444
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: It goes into the threads and the fibers of who

445
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: you are and you you're able to pool from that

446
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: in some way. And had I stayed in one city

447
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: in one state my entire life, for one, it would

448
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: be pretty damn hard to get a career that you know,

449
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: all the jobs are on the East and West coast.

450
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: But um, I would have less experiences because out of

451
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: lived less life potentially. Yeah, And and I would I

452
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: always admire because you have to have some type of

453
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: not even some type a very strong intestinal fortitude is

454
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: the word that I'll use when you decide that acting

455
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: is what I want to do, especially when you move

456
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: to l A because everybody is an actor. You know,

457
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: if they're waiting on you, they're an actor. Right, there's

458
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: just you know that cliche will wait you know, I'm

459
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: an actor. What restaurant do you work at? And you

460
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: see people kind of when they don't know what you

461
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: do or they haven't seen you anything, they kind of

462
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: glaze over, and that can affect your spirit, and that

463
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: can affect your self esteem. And and do I really

464
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: want to do this? Because there's probably more and you

465
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: have been blessed, but there's probably more nose than yeses

466
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: or you probably you probably missed out on worlds that

467
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: you knew were yours and should have been yours, but

468
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: was given to someone else when you first gotten going.

469
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna say, and I'll say this, any role that

470
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get, it wasn't for me. Amen. It took

471
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: a moment to get there, because we'll say these little

472
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: quotes and these little sayings that make us feel good.

473
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: But I remember the moment I book rose Wood and

474
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 1: the flood of emotions that and over me. When I

475
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: was done with pilot season, honey, I have to go

476
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: for another single day, but too it hit me. I

477
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, because I had tests for

478
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: so many other shows. That's like within that same week

479
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: or two and it hit me. I said, oh, this

480
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: was mine, this had mine was yours the other ones

481
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: that wasn't yours. And that's why I tell actors all

482
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: the time, when you go into an audition, when the

483
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: room fuck the role, win the room. Sorry you can.

484
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: So you want to win the room because your your

485
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: job is to go in there and perform and make

486
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: fans of the casting directors, the producers, the directors, who's

487
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: ever watching that, because in case that role is not

488
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: for you, you you still got to show up and do

489
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: your job, and you want them to work and find

490
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: what is right and eventually right. You want to have

491
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: that reputation of being the actor that always goes in,

492
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: shows up, and shows out. And if you don't feel

493
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: that you can do the justice, say no. There's power

494
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: and saying know first of all, and also your first impression.

495
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: You never get that back. So you wasn't ready, don't

496
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: do that. I think I did that before. I wasn't

497
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: wfore I ready, But you are you? And then you

498
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 1: say that though, but you say that, though, how I

499
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: don't I need you. Someone's listening and they want to

500
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: be an actress? How do you continue to get up?

501
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean I know how I do it, but how

502
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: do you do it? Because walking into room, trying to

503
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: win over a room, and then sometimes you know how

504
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: these casting directors can be just stone faced, they already

505
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: got whoever they want. They just be like whatever, And

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: you go in and you show up every single day

507
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: before you were like, you know, getting the roles that

508
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: you wanted, are getting the roles that showcased who you

509
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: were and and had a name. How do you keep

510
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: and that was a question, how do you keep your

511
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: spirits up? How do you believe in yourself when you

512
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: don't when sometimes it's just you believing in yourself and

513
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: no one else, and and that's all it has to be.

514
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: And it's it's it sounds cliche, like you have to

515
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: believe in yourself first before anybody else can pay you attention.

516
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: So you go in those rooms and you demand said

517
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: attention by doing the work. The work speaks louder than

518
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: the wig you put on, the color lipstick, whatever outfit

519
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: you took seventeen, you know, hours figuring out the night before,

520
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: like what am I gonna wear? Or how am I

521
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna look? Do you know your lines, you are Look,

522
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: can you lock eyes with the camera and the castle

523
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: director and stay in the zone like So, sometimes we

524
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: get lost in things that are less important because we're

525
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: trained to think that a lot of this stuff is important.

526
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's to work right.

527
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: So the end of the day, I say, believe in yourself.

528
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: You have to be your number one fan. You have

529
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: to be your number one supporter, you have to be

530
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: your number one hype man or woman. And you also

531
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: have to be the number one person that's gonna pull

532
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: your coattails when you're not doing what you're supposed to do.

533
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: Because we know when we're lacking, we know we can

534
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: do better. We know we can train more, study harder,

535
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: get more rest. Uh not be out of the clubs

536
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: to make friends. I didn't. I've been blessed that I

537
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: know a lot of amazing talent out here, but that

538
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: wasn't my goal. My go was to go and find

539
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: the work and spend every other minute and moment and

540
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: day that had nothing to do with surviving, studying my

541
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: craft and being better at it. Even if you can't

542
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: afford to go on acting class, you can afford a

543
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Netflix well, I mean maybe not even more. They're a

544
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: little more expensive. But you see somebody's staff word before

545
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: they sent over by to jail girl. Just why by

546
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: the way, I just tied the side up. When I

547
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: logged in the other day, they were like, so do

548
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: you agree to this upgrade of fifteen ninety night? I

549
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: was like, I know, I just said no, just on GP,

550
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: just to say no, I don't agree to that. Great

551
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: and what they kept me in. They then then the

552
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: then my TV or whatever share I was watching became pixelated.

553
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I was like, that's fine, I'm not I'm not I'm

554
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: not giving you my extra two dollars. I just I'm

555
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: on principle. Were like, we're gonna give you that. Let

556
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: about your choices on principle, Okay, everything that you're saying.

557
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: And then I hear you and believe you and already

558
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: and I know people are watching my well did you

559
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: afort you? We're saying that because you are where you are.

560
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: But I wasn't always here and I still feel like

561
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm still not a name, I'm not big enough of

562
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: a talent because I'm up against I don't I don't

563
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: have a baby by nobody important. I don't I'm not

564
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: married to nobody important. I'm not bestief with nobody like

565
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not in the tabloids

566
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: like I am hate that you mind your business? Okay,

567
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: But by the way, girl, who all gonna be there? They?

568
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: That was invented by me? I am been on my

569
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: who are gonna be there? And even in my business,

570
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: I notice how everybody gets put on by being friends

571
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: with rappers or the famous people, And I'm alway, I don't.

572
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be famous friends with nobody unless

573
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I really like you. I really don't. I don't. I

574
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: have no not that I dislike you. I just I

575
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: don't choose to do that. So things may take longer,

576
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: right things, for sure, Things may not move as quick

577
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: as you want them to move. And then you have

578
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: these moments of heartbreak that make you think, should I

579
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: be doing that? Tell me about thus far right, because

580
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: it could be others, but a heartbreaking moment for you

581
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: as an actress when you were like this game got me?

582
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I will say. One of the more recent ones was

583
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: when Luke Cage got canceled because it was on my birthday. Man,

584
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: I was to tell me and he got the hair

585
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: the make up, the outfit frames waiting, and I got

586
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: the call and they were like, yeah, I'm so sorry,

587
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: it's not moving forward. That that that that that, And

588
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I was like, but wait, I just had a conversation

589
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: literally the day before about how amazing the scripts are

590
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: about how my character was going to flourish basically be

591
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: like one of the villains in the next season. So

592
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: they did a good job of like, you know, molding

593
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: me and slow walking my character to that pivotal you know, climax,

594
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: and then season my next season, I was ready to

595
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: be like in the Marvel universe, you know. And when

596
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I stanched it under my road, from under my rug,

597
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: under my rober, under my feet on my birthday, I

598
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, but but I thank god that I have

599
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: such amazing friends who are also in the industry who

600
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: were like, no, you should still come out, you stop

601
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: plenty of the other things to celebrate, and just being

602
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: around that love and that energy just kind of helped

603
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: me get over that quicker um. And then also sometimes

604
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: when you're down, those loans make you more determined to

605
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: be like, what y'all not gonna do is keep me here,

606
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like sometimes those nose, especially

607
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: the ones that are hard. Klicks something and you clicks

608
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: right and it just feels like it makes you either decide. Yeah,

609
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: we asked this question, like am I doing the right thing?

610
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Just is this right for me? That for some people?

611
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be honest, it might not be. And

612
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: it's okay. It is okay to say because I always

613
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: tell people move, move to New York. Much like Lucha Random,

614
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: whatever worst case move, you're asked back where you came from.

615
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work. It's no different if you try

616
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: to career in anything else, you know what I mean?

617
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Why do we put so much pressure? Like, Yo, we

618
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: are not, you know, creating the cure for cancer as actors,

619
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: and in this business, we are helping people get through lights,

620
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, and bring joy in that way. But at

621
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: the end of the day, yo, like we put too

622
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: much pressure on this. It's I look at my job

623
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: at a nine nine five because I wish it was

624
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: that easy. But you know, uh, I'll be out there

625
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: as you actors, m you know, but fourteen how I

626
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: mean fourteen hour days too. I'm like, how y'all do

627
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: that good for you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, But I also

628
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: feel like for me, it helps me stay groundy. Like

629
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: I look at it, it's just a freaking job. It

630
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: pays the bills, and I don't I don't hold it

631
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: any higher regard than any of the other careers that

632
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: I had, you know, or to landing here, Um, because

633
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: it's something that I love to do, and there's other

634
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: things that I would love to do. And if I

635
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: if I fall into that, I'm gonna be I'm gonna

636
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: be good at I'd be great at that too, because

637
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: the joy, the whole point is finding the joy. What else?

638
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I thought I lost you. No, no, no no,

639
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm here because I was really I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: interrupt because you said there are other things you wanted

641
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Speaker 1: to do? What to do? Oh like I want to

642
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Speaker 1: do creative Like I want to get in the creative space, um, writing, directing, uh,

643
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: producing and all of those things. Not get like a

644
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Speaker 1: little here and there. But that is the next way

645
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Speaker 1: that I would like to as an artist, to feel

646
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: fulfilled in that way. Um, I think I hung up

647
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: my hat on the singing thing. Why, Honestly, the music

648
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: industry is just wild, Like I've had my toe in

649
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: it for a little bit as I've been in two

650
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Speaker 1: different music uh singing groups, one in Maryland one here,

651
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: and it just it's hard. It's a hard, hard game

652
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: and and just the sheer makeup of how the music

653
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: industry is said. And now I would say it's probably

654
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: easier now because people value and appreciate independent artists in

655
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: a way that they didn't for years ago. Right, So

656
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: I think now like you're not being in a major

657
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: label is cute, like sometimes that's even like people oh

658
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, but um, I feel like the music industry, well,

659
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: my experience felt like from the things I observed, will

660
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: eat you alive way quicker and faster and harder than

661
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: my industry. Some things I saw that just did a

662
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: really job with my my core values, my core being

663
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: my core essence of life. I was willing to sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: uh and compromise, you know. All right, this is the

665
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: time where you can press fast forward like maybe four

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Speaker 1: or five times. Are taking a quick commercial break. Gabrielle Dennis.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, every champion and carry chappion is

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Speaker 1: to be a champion, a champion and carry chappion and

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Speaker 1: carry chappian. A champion and carry chappion and carry chappion

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Speaker 1: and sports, and then the same make and make it work.

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Speaker 1: Harry Chappion and carry Chappion is to be a champion,

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Speaker 1: a champion, they carry CHAPPI and the girl champion and

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Speaker 1: carry Chappion and carry Chappion sports, and then the same

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Speaker 1: make and make it work. Welcome back to Naked. We

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Speaker 1: have more, Gabrielle Dennis. A lot of people when I

676
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: when I you say that, I think, and you talked

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: about now being a triple threat or having more talents.

678
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of old movies. I know you are.

679
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: But when I used to you can still watch Turner

680
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: classic movies, right, you can still watch TCM. And that's

681
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: what my mom used to watch all the time. So

682
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: I used to watch these these movies and the actors

683
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: one belonged to studios, right, we're property of said studio.

684
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: But then but they all had to sing and dance

685
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: an act like it wasn't an option. And if you

686
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: really wanted to be considered a value, then it then

687
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: it changed, right that And by the way, that way

688
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: is still not necessarily here. So when I hear you

689
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: say that you have all of these talents, you refer

690
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: back to Jamie Fox, like true renaissance. That helps. I

691
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: think you as a talent reinvent yourself over and over

692
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and over again, and I see so many people not

693
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: able to do that. You went from playing Whitney Houston

694
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Speaker 1: makes she rest in peace. I love her to being

695
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: on a Black Lady Scotch show with so much in between, right,

696
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: so much, so much texture in your roles in between.

697
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: How Whitney talk to me about the pressure of playing

698
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: that role and what you felt the reception was, Well,

699
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure, not that anyone was

700
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: putting it on me, but just as an artist. And

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Speaker 1: I hate I'm not a perfectionist, but I do try

702
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: my hardest because I feel like perfection is just that's unachievable.

703
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: But the call, the moment I got that call, right,

704
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm at an open house. It's a Saturday, this is

705
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: how beautiful out Sunday, California. The director calls. He's like, hey,

706
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: you know you got the job. How would you look

707
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: think of feel about coming to Atlanta and player Whitney.

708
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: I pay, of course, you know, I try to keep

709
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: a class. I think i'd be explay with his ear

710
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yes, I would love this

711
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: and infinitely when I hump up the phone, like it

712
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: hit me like, oh, I'm going to play Whitney and

713
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: the fact that that was a Saturday and I was

714
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that following Monday, like it was so quick,

715
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: and having a conversation with the director and just being like,

716
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: so we really want to keep her grounded and like

717
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: show the world that's not this elevator Whitney that we

718
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: all we all know Whitsney Houston megastar. Right, nobody can

719
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: say that they understand that experience because no one other

720
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: than Whitney has lived that. But if we break down

721
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Speaker 1: all of the glam and you know the maker he said,

722
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: I said, who ain't well? Who not wanting to make

723
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: up like you're real? Um? But wait a second, so

724
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: they told you couldn't wear makeup, but they there were

725
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: times I had makeup on, yes, but like there were

726
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: times that I didn't. And the whole goal was to

727
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: just strip her of of the public persona right to

728
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: make her feel a little more connected to you as

729
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: the audience, as a mother, as a as a spouse,

730
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: as someone I always felt like she was real, as

731
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: I'll get out, I always I never felt and yes,

732
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: she is a super She was the real superstar megastar

733
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. I've never seen you body. I

734
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: felt like that's why we loved her so much. I

735
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: can't I can't hear Whitney so on the same anymore.

736
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I prayed about that woman, about her family so

737
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: much that that whole process um. But I had a

738
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Speaker 1: side of the night of the nighted Air our first night.

739
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: We were at the BT offices in l A. And

740
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: we were doing live tweeting from there. So it's you know,

741
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: the cast, Bobby's there, you know, Betixecs and the director

742
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm in the corner because I am terrified

743
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: the black Twitter, like I th so worse verse to

744
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: works or tonight a bit careerans right, So that was

745
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: the big Can we take a moment to talk about

746
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: how black to remember? Because Black Tuter was killing everybody

747
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: for such a long time when be he was doing

748
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Speaker 1: Our Lifetime, was doing those movies too, you remember, Yeah,

749
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't mean I have been a victor.

750
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: They're already dragging me when they announced when they announced

751
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: it was ain't Whitney, I got drunk. They called me

752
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: she ain't hutty enough. To Royal play with me. Who

753
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: the bitch? Why her? La la la? Yeah, yea wasn't

754
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: available to cold cold place. And then I was I

755
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: felt I felt away because we were filming. We were

756
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: like on date. We were in week one when they

757
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: announced it, and I was like, I don't need to

758
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: see her reading that, and what do he SoC? He

759
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: was like, listen, they did all of the new edition

760
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: past exact same way. He said. They toured the shreds

761
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: when they announced us, and now they all love us

762
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: because people are just opinionated, especially about artists and talents

763
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: that they love and that their fans of. It's like

764
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: you can't touch you I love, don't tell who I love? Right,

765
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: So it this was such a side of relief the

766
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: night when all of the love was just pouring in

767
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: and people like, oh she did that, she's knelling it

768
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: la la la la la. And I know it seems

769
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: so superficial and like whatever to to live on what

770
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: other people say, but that's a part of my job.

771
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: It's like, if y'all hated it, do I work again?

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00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: You know so too, though you were given a very

773
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: it's just roll. We love our Whitney. We protective, no

774
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: matter what she went to through and no matter who

775
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: people say she might have been, we love and we

776
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: are also culturally as a culture obsessed with her. I

777
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: don't remember the last time someone died and it was

778
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: on It was streaming on a news service. It was

779
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: streaming live on CNN. They had My Homegirls soloed that O'Brien,

780
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: who I've never met, but just love her in general,

781
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: going live from the funeral. She was something that meant

782
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: everything to everyone. So I understand why you were like, my,

783
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be working or I'm not gonna be working

784
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: because that it was a moment. It was a real moment. Yeah.

785
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Whitney still trends a couple of times a

786
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: month in two thousand and one too, So Hi. So

787
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: So when you get all the love and it's not superficial,

788
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: it's it's like, Okay, I did that, I did her right,

789
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: I did her right. You it didn't what. I just

790
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: wanted to feel like there was love and respect in

791
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: the part, in the role, in the whole thing. And

792
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: I didn't wanted to feel in any way growths or

793
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: like we were poking fun in any way because there

794
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: was mad respect on step for with me. What did

795
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: you feel that you learned about her that you don't

796
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: think most people knew playing that character. Uh, First of all,

797
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: she went through a lot. Yeah, So what I would

798
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: say is Whitney was strong. Whitney was a lot stronger

799
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: than I think a lot of people give her credit for.

800
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: People like to end her legacy at she was addicted

801
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: to drugs. I'm sorry. When they lived life, she went

802
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: through a lot of things and thank gosh, social media

803
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: didn't exist the way it did back then. Well I

804
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: don't know what's worth that or the tabloids back in

805
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: the days, but a lot of people that's all they

806
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: knew was what was in the tabloids. But Winny was

807
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: a very very strong, strong and loving person. Um from

808
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: the things I've heard about from people you know that

809
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: knew her, and my research and things from her interviews

810
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: and um, because I'm not the type of person really

811
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: dives into like stars lives. So that was really an

812
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: experience for me to like go through and feel like

813
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: I was speaking in her life and just being like,

814
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, an observer of that. And she was so funny.

815
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: She was most people know that though she was hysterical,

816
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: she she just had personality for days. And she can

817
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: give you a cute lit to read and you may

818
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: or may not even have noticed. She lets you have it. Yeah,

819
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: and she was just so damn real, like there's nothing,

820
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing about her that felt sake to me. I

821
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: hated to watch and tell me what you thought this was.

822
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: Why do you think drugs became such an issue for

823
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: her because she was trying to numb the pain and

824
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: all that she went through. I don't know, I'm asking, Um.

825
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: It could have been because when you look at the

826
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: timeline of and as far as the public information, there

827
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of Again, this young girl was thrust

828
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: into spotlight. She was the first of her kind in

829
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: that way, being in this this space so quickly, so worldwide,

830
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: so all of these things as like a solo artist, right. Um.

831
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: And when she got forget which the War Show was

832
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: it so trying awards and when black people blew her

833
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: like like you said, Whitney's was real, was like Yo,

834
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: But I I want to y'all how them what likew

835
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: how that feels? That's like basically being on black Twitter

836
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: and everybody's just trolling, right, and it's just like how

837
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: that makes her feel? So when you go talk about

838
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: like the pain, I feel like she experienced a lot

839
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: of pain that was new to her right that, and

840
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: she had no one to go to really to understand that,

841
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: because again, she was one with me. So the things

842
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: that she was going through weren't things that any of

843
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: the rest of us could really tangibly say. I understand

844
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: that to the fullest. So we a lot of times

845
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure and expectations on stars, especially

846
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: someone that's on a pedestal that high, that we can

847
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: give them no room to fall from brace because it's

848
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: impossible to just live up to a lot of that.

849
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: And and then when you think about it, like the

850
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: industry against the music industry, all the stuff that goes on,

851
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: Like you think Whitney was the first person to do drugs,

852
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: you know, so um And actually you look at all

853
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: of those old movies, you know a lot of the

854
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: tales telltale signs are the warning movies about like all

855
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: of these starlets or you know, music groups and what

856
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: was their downfall? Usually drugs, money on ego. So you

857
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: you did that role so very well. And I and

858
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: out of respect, I know you you have your own thoughts,

859
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: and I love that you are being very honest about

860
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: what we didn't know, and she probably was fash over that.

861
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: You're right there never I also feel like it was

862
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: a release of her pain because I didn't want to

863
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: see her. She was Mabu Oprah described her as America's princess,

864
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: like she was ours when she did the national anthem

865
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: or you did that though, let's just talk about that

866
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: for a second. You did that, and I I want

867
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: to tell you it's an implement and I hope you

868
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: receive it that way that I forgot. I was like,

869
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: she has really and ree and every role you own

870
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: it's different. And I'm like a Meryl Street like I

871
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: didn't know who Meryl is in every role? You know

872
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm not like, Okay, she and none?

873
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: Is she to me that she and I win tour?

874
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Is she? You know what she has? She owns every

875
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: role and you forget what she was in the last world.

876
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: You're like, she did do that? You know the classic?

877
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: You're like, she did do that? I forgot that? But

878
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: that was my ship. I love that. That's how I

879
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: how I see you. And that is such a rare gift.

880
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? That's nothing but God like man,

881
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: I can't really take credit for that, whatever that light

882
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: that shines in me. Um, those talents I didn't I

883
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: didn't wake up and in in in preschool and go

884
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: to like a little crayon the little toy box and

885
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: like I want a little thing and I want a

886
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: little dance. But this in my book that let me.

887
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: It's not like either know, like I didn't have any

888
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: say in that. It just kind of I am so

889
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: blessed to know. And I know that I'm very fortunate

890
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: in this way like people think fortune rich. Is that

891
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: I am fortunate to know that at a young age

892
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: what I had a passion for and what I loved

893
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: because I knew where to focus my attention on very

894
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: early on. UM. And it's so hard to get lost

895
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: in life, you know when we can't figure it out.

896
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: But when you have something that you can, you know,

897
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: like one little kernel of hope or you what what

898
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: you believe in, what you know is true. Yeah, And

899
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I feel like when you find that, um and you

900
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: can sometimes that can change. But you just need something

901
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: that keeps you focused on being a better person than

902
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: you were yesterday, to being a more successful person you

903
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: were yesterday. And success isn't all about money, I don't

904
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm referring to. It all success and

905
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: how are you? Are your relationships healthier? Is your is

906
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: yourself worth feel better than it did before? Um? I

907
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: feel like we I mean shout out to all the

908
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: the musicians who like, are these badass women who have

909
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: helped tell a new retell, a story of women empowerment

910
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: through music right where we're no longer just relying on

911
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: like all the rap music back in the nineties, which

912
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: now I was definitely danced to it, right, that's very clear,

913
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: But also some of those messages for some of us,

914
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: it went over. It was about the music, was like

915
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: at the time whatever, But then some people really embedded

916
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: some of those words and those meanings and devaluing their worth.

917
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's uh catwith William like, it's about

918
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: self worth, bitch. You gotta have work and self quick

919
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: putting allowing other people your value, and it's it is

920
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: an easy thing to say, It is not an easy

921
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: thing to do, but you gotta start thinking that way.

922
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: That way your actions eventually will align with your thoughts. Yeah. Yeah,

923
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, you mentioned Cat when he was

924
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast. He sure has evolved that you know,

925
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: he has from from being the pimp to the guy

926
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: who's now fighting for black women and saying we need

927
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: to love our women more and value the more you're

928
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: right about the self worth. I I and and and

929
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: I'll just use that word for the moment, evolve. Mm hmm.

930
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: So you're on Black Lady Sketch Show and I and

931
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: I've seen you play different roles and they're all very

932
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: funny and also very like sometimes y'all ad lib. Sometimes

933
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: it's the line, sometimes y'all throw whatever, like the behind

934
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: the scenes of it is genius and a shout out.

935
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, just can we just shot out robbing for

936
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: a minute. And how I would not have been on

937
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: that show. There'sn't a cast and whether it maybe two

938
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: cast represent town, but the average castman would have never

939
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: thought of me too, especially at that time, like you said,

940
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: I had just finished doing Whitney Houston. I had just

941
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: um finished doing U Luke Cage and then prior to that,

942
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: I was doing Rosewood, so no one was really checking

943
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: me for like comedy, right, so um the own when

944
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: Robin text me and was like, girl, I wanta gond this,

945
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, sketch comedy show. What do you think about

946
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: being involved? A la la lah, It's for HBO. Let

947
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: me know if your yeah, let me just what you mean?

948
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Phone girl? Hey, hit me. I'm here And I was

949
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: just I'm just so proud of of and I hate

950
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: to stay proud of people like I had anything to

951
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: do with it, but like, I'm so happy for the

952
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: journey that she's been able to take because she knew

953
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: me back when I was doing just stand up comedy

954
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: and out in these streets and late, you know, on

955
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: the grind and to see her go from that where

956
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: she is now and the mutual respect artists that we

957
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: started grinding, you know together in a way, and for

958
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: her to call me and say, Gabrielle, you are so funny.

959
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: And I have been following your career and it baffles

960
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: my mind that no one has tapped into how funny

961
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: you are, Like I remember your stand up comedy like

962
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: I remember you making me laugh and people need to

963
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: see you be funny. Please come play on my show.

964
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's do a Girl and and listen to the sister

965
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: talk about Robbin is so hands on but still so

966
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: at least from what I can see it's still so

967
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: carefree about a lot of things, and she wants you

968
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: to shine. And she's like, I wrote to Carrie High,

969
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: I wrote something for y'all come on in, y'all got

970
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: you you, and then I got something It's got I

971
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: wrote some for like she just calls everybody she remember,

972
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, look at that beautiful mind that

973
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: she has. And I love that she went back and

974
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: found you because in my industry and I'm sure in

975
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: yours too, but so many people have that crab and

976
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: a barrel mentality and they don't want to see you win.

977
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, that's absolutely what even for us,

978
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Like she's like, I want to see y'all win, and

979
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: let let me say work on this. You know. My

980
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: point is is that I don't see that that often.

981
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: And the sisterhood that I saw on the show was

982
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: really special. And I and I and look, I don't

983
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: know the behind the scenes. I know work has worked,

984
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: but it was beautiful to see a group of black

985
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: women supporting one another and and loving one another. And

986
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: and that's one of my favorite things women. And I've

987
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: been very blessed in my business too. You have to

988
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: be surround like most of the women that I know,

989
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced personally. I haven't experienced any caddiness. I

990
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: haven't experienced anyway feeling a backstabbing or like, you know,

991
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: competition in that way healthy competition, but not in a

992
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: way of like feeling like, uh, like I don't like

993
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: this girl because after day, every time I go on audition,

994
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: she there. My home mentality. When I go to auditions,

995
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: it's like, girls, I'm so happy to see you because

996
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: if it's not me, it's you one of us. When

997
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: one of for Messanel, it was all these black women

998
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: testing for us to now and I was like, oh,

999
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: bucket this change. And I was I was walking around backstage.

1000
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: This was back when the flip Pam was out, and

1001
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I was, you know, doing interviews with everybody, just having

1002
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: a good old time in the producer. So they were like,

1003
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: we don't understand. He was like, no, it's normally people

1004
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: go to their drugs rooms and they stay there to

1005
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: let their time. They hate the competition, they don't want

1006
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: to see the competition. But I was like, for me,

1007
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: this was a celebration. Like keenan Um Thompson had had

1008
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: spoke loudly on the fact that black women weren't being

1009
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: represented it on that show, and there was there was

1010
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: a moment, a moment, and you know, so many of

1011
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: us were caught out to test for that, and to me,

1012
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: it was just a joy to just be testing for

1013
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is fun, Like this is

1014
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: something that was on my bucket list. It's the test

1015
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: for s to now and then cut to ten years

1016
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: or it's ten years, I don't know how many years

1017
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: ago that was, but like now I'm on well, not

1018
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: my own schedu goo, but like, come on the schedule

1019
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: that is doing. That's probably I'd work more and get

1020
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: more opportunities and get to spread my wings more on

1021
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: this show than I would have ever been able to run.

1022
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Just from the sheer nature of how the show is

1023
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: set up. There's quicker turnaround. Um, and you know our show,

1024
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: we shoot our show like individual short films, so we

1025
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: take a lot of time and energy in crafting these

1026
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: beautifully produced, amazing production value and all of that. And

1027
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: I outside, I know, you know, no, I love that

1028
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: you but because people don't know that's what happens, and

1029
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: and it's interesting and you say, like we need more

1030
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: black women. And and by the way, you know, I'm

1031
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm Malcolm X that. So you know, I still feel

1032
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: like it's not enough of us, Like I don't I

1033
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: need more more black ladies sketch shows. I need more

1034
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: of us in every role. I need to see it

1035
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: all the time. And I needed to see because you

1036
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: said earlier, most of my friends, if not all my

1037
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: friends are working, and that's a beautiful thing. That is

1038
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. You know what I've noticed in my

1039
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: trend for my friends, not only are they working, people

1040
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: were all producing. We all have our own businesses, we

1041
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: all own our I own my podcast, we all own

1042
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: our own things. Right although I'm distributing it through a network,

1043
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: but I can take this and say, Okay, I'm taking

1044
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: this a movie, it's mine, this is my content. I

1045
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: created it. I think the fact that we are moving

1046
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: in that space, I mean, we're black women. I could

1047
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: praise us all day, but we move it, and we

1048
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: are doing it in so many different levels, and we're

1049
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: bringing everybody along. And that was the love that I

1050
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: wanted to give to Robin, because we there's a new

1051
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: generation where it's not like it's you can only be one.

1052
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: When I was when I was coming up, I used

1053
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: to go up to black women who were anchors on

1054
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: news anchors all the time and be like, can you

1055
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: help me? And they'd be like food, yeah, And I'm

1056
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: friends with some of them today I'm friendly rather, but

1057
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I know that they felt like there could only be

1058
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: one and we don't believe in that. And so I

1059
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: see you evolve the word that I come back to

1060
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: you for the day, and I wonder, and this is

1061
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: such a hard question to ask you because it's probably

1062
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: double fold weird. What's the not necessarily dream role, but

1063
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: what's the what's next where you find yourself? Because I'm

1064
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: looking at you right now and again evolved. I've seen

1065
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: you in so many aspects on Black Ladies, on the

1066
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Black Ladies Sketch Show, and then I see you now

1067
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: in this beautiful like done up glamorous like oh, I'm like,

1068
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: my baby is fine. I was like, what are we doing?

1069
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: What we're doing next? What what else is in the

1070
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: portfolio for you? And you're like, yeah, I want to

1071
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: be aative, as you said, but what's the acting role

1072
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: where do you see yourself flourishing? What role did someone have?

1073
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: And You're like, I will body that when we do

1074
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: the sequel, I will body that I could have bodied that,

1075
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do something different than that. Um. I mean,

1076
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: people wish they're always seasoned about what I teasing. I see,

1077
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: like someone just post them the other day, like people

1078
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: really wanted to see Tilda John's in the character I

1079
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: play who was night Shade like in the n C universe,

1080
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: like but the film the cinematic that would be great

1081
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: to be in, like The Black Panther. Yes, I would

1082
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: always say action yes still movie yes, yes, so I

1083
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: would love to do some action like that. I can

1084
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: see you kick get everybody's ass. Yes, yeah. So I

1085
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: was just like, I'll just have to create what writer

1086
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: is you? Like you know what I mean? Just the

1087
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: newer that's you. That's what I see. Yeah, yeah, well

1088
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: that's very sweet. Thank you know, it's obvious and I

1089
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: just I mean, congratulations to you and your team and

1090
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: your gals all like doing what you're doing and not

1091
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: staying in one lane and you know where that comes from.

1092
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: And I can't speak for you all, but for me,

1093
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: it's being aspired, like hearing your story watching Robin Um

1094
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: and again everywhere I turned, you got Quinta Ashley Nicole Black,

1095
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: like everybody's creating, acting, doing multifaceted things. Because we are

1096
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: now in a position that we dare to think we

1097
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: can again say that again, we are in a position

1098
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: what because I want to get that. I want to

1099
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: get that where we are now in a position where

1100
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: we dare to think that we can do it, that

1101
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: we are dare to know that we can and ain't

1102
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: nobody gonna stop us no matter how hard we got

1103
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: to get to the finish line. Yes it will be hard.

1104
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: But I feel like there was a time, like you know,

1105
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: there's certain things that my mom's generation would be like

1106
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like you're and then her bombs

1107
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: generations like, oh that's a man's world there, like what

1108
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: are you doing? You know? But now so many strings

1109
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: have been cut and snipped and where we're like we're

1110
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: not playing this puppet of like this old school modern woman,

1111
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: where we're we dare to feel like we're equal and

1112
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: we can do the work. And I think it's a

1113
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: beautiful thing, like I said, to just see people working.

1114
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: And also when you think about going back to like robbing,

1115
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: when you say for her to like call you half

1116
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: the ninety percent of people on the show is problems

1117
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: because her relationships, and she just caused everybody that's she's

1118
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: So that's a smart business woman because even though our

1119
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: relationships started ten years and prior, she had the wherewithal

1120
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: to know one day this show was going to exist,

1121
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: and she's tabulating people she wants to work with. So

1122
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: that was my audition in that first year I met her,

1123
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: and that I should always tell people you never know

1124
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: who's watching, So always do on your pas and cues

1125
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: and um and build foster relationships even if they're not

1126
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, over the top, and like trying to like

1127
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: go out to lunch and like do all of those things,

1128
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: but like be a real person, correct present, real person

1129
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: because we don't always have to have we don't always

1130
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: have to have lunch. But you're correct, we get if

1131
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: when we when we interact and I interact with you

1132
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: and you feel the vibes, you're like, I got it,

1133
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Like will recognize as real. Like the people who get

1134
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: it will it matters to them and it's all good.

1135
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: You're so right about that. I okay, look, I know

1136
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go. It's almost wrapping up my hour. I

1137
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: would wrap my mouth, Okay, So This is something I

1138
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: wanted to ask because I started with this, how do

1139
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: you determine, especially now that you're in the public spotlight,

1140
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: like people know you like and and and I know

1141
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: You'm Like, if you walk down the street and you

1142
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: you're just having some ice cream and kicking cans, somebody's

1143
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like, gir I love you and that one

1144
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: like someone's gonna say that to you. You know what

1145
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean? You know that there are other journal If

1146
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: you see me walking down the street, I probably going

1147
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: on to mask a face shield. I want you to

1148
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: keep your ass away from me. And I way ice

1149
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: cream because it helps creating un and I'm not trying

1150
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: to have the did you how did you film that show?

1151
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: And you're a German fold man, how did you do that? Well?

1152
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: Thank gosh, Armala Bear, Robbin thee like, look at my

1153
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: restaurant class there cast they're not as much of a

1154
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: German focus me, but it starts from the top. They

1155
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: cared about and it was because we were one of

1156
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: the first, maybe probably the first five retin shows that

1157
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: went back in the in the pandemic, So there were

1158
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of stringent procedures and processes and protocols in place,

1159
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: so there was that safety net, but it was very

1160
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: surreal to like it felt like armageddon outside and then

1161
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: like so you have to leave your house and in

1162
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: l A there's always traffic, but at this time you're like, well,

1163
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: where is it? Where everybody where? Did everybody go? Right?

1164
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: And then you go to work and you gotta get tested,

1165
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: your noses, jab, you gotta sell other thing, you gotta

1166
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: answer questions, you gotta go through all of these these

1167
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: tents and people in masks, and my girl, they weren't

1168
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: playing me here sitting there like be funny. Yeah, not

1169
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: even outside, but okay, here's and I think for us

1170
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: it really helped, not saved my life, but it that

1171
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: show was such a way to survive through the pandemic,

1172
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, and then to know that at the end

1173
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: of this one we're done. We're gonna help other people

1174
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: survived to the pandemic because we're giving them a release,

1175
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: We're giving them a break from all those numbers all needed. Yeah,

1176
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: so it was hard to get through, but also I did.

1177
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: I I had a little bildown the first week because

1178
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: there was a theme where we all had to like

1179
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: get close, like face to face like in a circle,

1180
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I can feel I feel

1181
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: breath was like the Aero songs all over me, and

1182
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: I think, not in that circle, and I laugh like

1183
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: that rather as fast as you ran away, you said

1184
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: I still breath, said I feel un and I went

1185
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: outside and I just had to have a moment and

1186
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Robin checked on me. And it's you know, it's like

1187
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: when those moments like are you okay, You're trying to

1188
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: hold together, it's like not, you know, And it's just

1189
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: like I think I said about it, because it was

1190
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: so new, like you have spent you have been we

1191
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: have been in fair for so long. It was like

1192
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: stay six feet and it was like and then you're

1193
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: thrust into like no mask and like we didn't ease

1194
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: our way back into society. I'm with you. They just

1195
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: like I have pc I think I have PCSD because

1196
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: just thrown into work and like being the drama Poe

1197
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: that I am and just never really like you said,

1198
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: ease into it. So for me it's either or it's

1199
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: either like I'm on set and I'm comfortable or I'm

1200
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: all the way like a recluse from from life. What

1201
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: do you And so this was speaking of Okay, recluse

1202
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: from life. I wonder, as you say, you wouldn't be

1203
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: walking down the street and ice cream for the various reasons.

1204
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: But how do you separate your personal from your professional?

1205
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: What do you decide to give the people? What do

1206
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: you side to how do you decide to tell the

1207
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: people the personal versus versus the It's it's too personal

1208
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: and you don't deserve it because I feel like you're

1209
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: very to yourself. I am, but in real life, I'm

1210
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: a very private person. So I also I feel like

1211
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: I give everybody the real me, and some people don't

1212
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: know anymore or less some of my friends or my

1213
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: associates just because I'm a very I'm one of those

1214
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: people that everybody comes to and I help people get

1215
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: the problems, are talking to them, da da da. But

1216
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: I just always were I had not trained, but like

1217
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 1: I was never conditioned to release myself. So I feel

1218
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: like I never had those outlets the same because I

1219
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: was always the listening ear and never the talking mouth

1220
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: and like the bleeding heart. So I feel like I've

1221
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: always dealt with my problems on my own and kind

1222
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: of just figured it out. So I don't like burdening

1223
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: people with mine. I feel like I as feel like

1224
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: nobody cares about your personal life. They may they clicked

1225
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: this thing or or bought this ticket, or set in

1226
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: that chair and turn on the station to see you

1227
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: the performer. Don't I give a dam about Gabriel, you know?

1228
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: And that's the mentality that I approach it with, like

1229
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: nobody cares, So I don't even I don't get it.

1230
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: That's so interesting because I disagree. I feel like everyone cares.

1231
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: I think if if if I didn't know you, or

1232
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: if I was just just sitting in and not in

1233
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: this position and I'm just watching the show, I'd be like,

1234
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious about who she's dating, or I'm curious about

1235
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: what school she went to and that that stuff is

1236
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: readily available. I'm curious about is she this fun in

1237
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: real life? Is she this casual? I'm very curious, and

1238
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm naturally a curious person, But I also know that's

1239
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: how people have made their careers, right because maybe, like

1240
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: I know, I don't have a baby by somebody, like

1241
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: all the things the society makes stars out of, Like

1242
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: I get real offended, and I don't know if she's

1243
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: your friend or not. But I get real offended when

1244
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: people referenced Kim Kardashian a lot, when she the whole

1245
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: you gotta work hard thing, and I'll just be like,

1246
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: don't don't tell me, don't tell me that. Or like

1247
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: I was talk my trainer about something, he was like, yeah, oh,

1248
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: you're get one of those Kim Kardashian cars. I was like, who,

1249
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: don't do that? You know what I mean? I really offended.

1250
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: But because is she's so popular in pop culture, hence

1251
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: pop culture, she sometimes becomes the example of or and

1252
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: in people's curiosity or obsession with the Kardashians is evident

1253
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: because she's built this multi, multi multimillion dollar industry. And

1254
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't see why you don't believe that people would

1255
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: feel that same way when they see you, Probably because

1256
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't look like a Cam Kardashian, And like I

1257
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: would assume that the interest and why her family and

1258
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: why some of those other reality shows, like we've got

1259
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: black reality shows and then there's other reality shows you

1260
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: look at just how the makeup of I just don't.

1261
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: I just I would just assume that the reason people

1262
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: are attracted to that family is because of the money,

1263
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: because of the connections because of their beauty, because of

1264
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: the way they live their life. If I can but

1265
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: follow me, it would be hell of orange. So you

1266
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: just you better just follow me to set because you

1267
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: follow me at home, then I'm eating a lot. And

1268
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: you're not of letting them actually in the house with

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Speaker 1: their shoes on. They're gonna have to they have to

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Speaker 1: be double masks. They don't have on boots like it's

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Speaker 1: a hold to do. So yeah, um, I adore you.

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Speaker 1: We're past our time. I know that I took too

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Speaker 1: much of your time. No, you're great. I'm I'm holding

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Speaker 1: this interview in perpetuity because I know that ultimately, when

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Speaker 1: do you get the oscar? And I'm not just saying that,

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Speaker 1: I'll be like I remember she's going podcast. When I

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01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: told her, I was just like, girl, it's coming, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you yours and listen. I'm not a big sports fan,

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Speaker 1: but you know you don't like the sports. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big fan, Like I don't know enough about it right.

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Speaker 1: I also don't have I feel like I'm scared of

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Speaker 1: the sports like I used to be in a college

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Speaker 1: football I mean college basketball and boxing. I still watch boxing,

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Speaker 1: but like football, basketball, Like everybody I know is so

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Speaker 1: emotionally best that I just don't have the energy and

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Speaker 1: the it's it's, it's, it's horrible failure. But when I

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Speaker 1: tell and I've seen you, I'm always come about brown skin,

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Speaker 1: Come on, hair and makeup, Come on, come on, brown skin,

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Speaker 1: because they don't represent us. Well, come on, brown skin,

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Speaker 1: but well represent yourself lovely to the max every time

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen you. Um, you're a lovely person even

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Speaker 1: in person. Getting to work with you with such a

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01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: treat that's a generous with my non acting asked, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, but you know so you asked the nil

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Speaker 1: I am? I do? I tell Robin? I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what? You know? It's so funny because, um, I'm

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Speaker 1: always asked to play myself, which I love. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind doing that. Don't tell me to deviate from anything

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Speaker 1: else from that. I just don't get high yummed I

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01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: am what I'm sitting here talking to you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: just growing smoke. I am in awe of what y'all

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Speaker 1: do you think the music industry is tough? I think

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: music and acting is extremely difficult. And what y'all do

1304
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 1: so effortless sleep, effortlesslie like it was there was no work.

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was working. It was no work.

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Speaker 1: We were I thinking key king and doing different takes

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Speaker 1: and different shots. I was like, is this work? We

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Speaker 1: work even though you are working, right, But I don't

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01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: know you felt writing It was great. And it also

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: helps the environment that Robin set up. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's that sisterhood. It's about being supportive, and so our

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: guest stars come in and they feel the love and

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Speaker 1: they just it's just like a playground and it's just like,

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Speaker 1: come on, girl, let's come outside and play with us,

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Speaker 1: you know. And um, so I'm happy to hear that

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Speaker 1: you had a great experience and I and I want

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Speaker 1: you to know that it is something that I First

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Speaker 1: of all, I didn't know. It's like a cult following.

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Speaker 1: I had more people reached out to me about that

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Speaker 1: than being on ESPN. They were like, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: said okay, so I need to make more guess rolls

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Speaker 1: on the show show. Um, Gabrielle Dennis is perfect. She

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Speaker 1: can do no wrong. I want everyone you can do

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01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: no wrong. Thank you so much for joining me. I

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you, switch, I really do for having me, so

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing my podcast. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening and think you so much for listening to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's for Gabrielle and you folks at home. You know

1329
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: it's a labor of love, and I tell you that

1330
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Speaker 1: all the time. This podcast is truly a labor of

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: love for me. Um. But the more that I sit

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Speaker 1: into it, I do realize there are times where I

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Speaker 1: should most definitely give my thoughts and commentary about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world. Um, And I hope you

1335
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: don't mind I get on my soapbox a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I just do because I have things to say and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from the guests, but

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Speaker 1: I do think it's a nice reprieve to update you

1339
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Speaker 1: all on what's going on in the world, because there

1340
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: is so much content out there. There is so much

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Speaker 1: happening that if you don't stop and pay attention, the

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Speaker 1: world will pass you by. I say that because this

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Speaker 1: week I had the honor of moderating Michelle Obama's summit,

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Speaker 1: her very first summit, and it is basically essentially saying,

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Speaker 1: we don't like the world that we live in right now,

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Speaker 1: but we can do something about it, and it is everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is everything for me. And so I

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Speaker 1: hope that you all are participating in democracy if you will,

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Speaker 1: meaning I need you all to get out and vote.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to people to say, oh, it

1351
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. It matters the most at midterms.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: It matters the most on the local level. It matters

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Speaker 1: the most for who your local mayor is, the board

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Speaker 1: of supervisors, depending on where you live in what area

1355
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: you live in, you know who's your city council member

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Speaker 1: that you want to vote for or against. It matters,

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Speaker 1: It really does matter. They wouldn't fight so hard to

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Speaker 1: stop for to make sure we couldn't vote if it

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Speaker 1: didn't matter. You hear that line, but it is true.

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Speaker 1: As we speak, there are people plotting to take away

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Speaker 1: your right to vote in whatever way they can, whatever

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Speaker 1: loophole they can find, whatever way they can say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you didn't mail in this, and you didn't mail in

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Speaker 1: that ballot on time, and I see that you didn't

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: tape your name down all the way and you forgot

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Speaker 1: to sign it. Whatever it is. They're all looking for

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Speaker 1: ways to take away the marginalized vote. Because the marginalized

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Speaker 1: the minority. You and me are the majority, and they're

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: in fear and fear of the power structure changing. And

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Speaker 1: the only way it can change is that we vote.

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Speaker 1: I say at I hope that you feel moved by this.

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Speaker 1: If it affects five people, that's five people who voted.

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Speaker 1: If five people say, you know what, I am going

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: to vote in my mid term election, not every four years,

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: but mid terms, right, because we don't vote just for

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Speaker 1: the president. We vote every two years essentially for those

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Speaker 1: we want to be bothered with, those who want to

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: put in office or not be bothered with rather. So

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: with that being said, go out and vote. I hope

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: this makes you feel a little more energized and activate

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: it because we have to fight for what's right. At

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: least that's what I try to do. Thanks for listening

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: to naked commercials and all, have a great evening, day, morning, night,

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01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: you name it, I don't know. Just enjoy yourselves. See

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Speaker 1: you all next week.