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Speaker 1: First of all, this one of my teammates, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the most athletic teammate I ever played

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Speaker 1: with him and had the pleasure of being around Man.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Man, we appreciate you coming to rock

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: You know you my guy. Man.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of laughs in my short stint

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Speaker 1: in Memphis.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: We're rocking with him.

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate y'all having many when.

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Speaker 1: You first got to the league. Who's the first person

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Speaker 1: to bust yours?

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Speaker 3: You know what I've been seeing y'all, y'all podcast, and

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this, and it was easy for me.

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Speaker 3: Team Mac, that Mac man right out the gate. Bro,

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Speaker 3: we played them, you know, we in the West, so

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Speaker 3: we played them in Houston Mac. Yeah, Houston Mac. So

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Speaker 3: this is what y'all bruh. He gave me forty two

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Speaker 3: in the preseason and preseason preseason, but Boo, I thought

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Speaker 3: he was gonna play like two quarters, you know, come

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Speaker 3: out there, shoot a couple of shots. Bro. It was like,

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Speaker 3: it's like, yo, every play man every I feel like

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Speaker 3: he was practicing everything on me.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Every time I did, he look half sleep while

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Speaker 2: he was doing it.

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Speaker 3: Thought he wasn't even sweat.

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Speaker 4: That's what makes me want to fire him, because it's like,

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Speaker 4: you ain't even sweat, you ain't eat, are you trying hard?

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Speaker 2: Like that's how nice he was.

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Speaker 4: And it looked like I'm just out here and I'm

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Speaker 4: like this, like he ain't even better sweat something against me?

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Speaker 3: Brox one of them, Like bro, he don't get enough respect.

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Speaker 2: Bro Like he was.

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Speaker 3: He was what six nine sixteen handle, could play the point.

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Speaker 3: He did everything, stuff stuff. He shoot me threes and

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Speaker 3: didn't even shoot before the game. It come out there

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Speaker 3: just it wouldn't be sweating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was definitely. Every time I seen him, he

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Speaker 1: had thirty in his pocket. I'm talking about what every

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Speaker 1: time I ran into him, just.

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Speaker 3: Thirty shouting teammate, Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location me and the blackest one is

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Speaker 4: out here all start weekend in the Yay area, twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five and hey, listen here, we got one of

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Speaker 4: them ones today, baby. We got one of the old teammates,

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Speaker 4: We got a long time pro, We got one of

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Speaker 4: Yukon's finest and you know what I'm saying. He did

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Speaker 4: a lot of things in the league, he put a

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Speaker 4: lot of them big boys.

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Speaker 2: Shit. Go look at the.

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Speaker 4: YouTube dunk contests and all the dunks and dunk Y's.

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Speaker 4: We got Rudy Gay in the building, Baltimore's finest man.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, Bigness. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Check them out on seven PM in Brooklyn too, Rudy Gay.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, I ain't know this. You were born in Brooklyn?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like MJ hunh born in I ain't like, So

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Speaker 4: when did you move up Maryland?

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Speaker 3: So my mother from Baltimore and my father's from New

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Speaker 3: her to move back to Brooklyn. My mother actually left

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Speaker 3: I got family all in New York. So shout out

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Speaker 3: to both of them, Brooklyn and Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really know.

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Speaker 4: So you like spend a lot of time back and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that. I never knew that.

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Speaker 1: That's why you were so comfortable when we went to

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Speaker 1: I know y'all was y'all that was your guy. When

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Speaker 1: I got to Memph, I know that was your middle school.

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Speaker 2: If he from like he from Philly.

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Speaker 3: So like with the Au Circuit, it's like everything up

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Speaker 2: Like driving Philly geography. I don't know how club.

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Speaker 3: It's like an hour and a half drive. So like

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Speaker 3: dunck in Sonny Allow, man, Like you know, you have

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Speaker 3: to give at at least thirty minutes of your time

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Speaker 3: a cheat.

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Speaker 4: The first time that man told me I was the reason.

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Speaker 4: He was the reason I made McDonald's. I was looking

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Speaker 4: at him like, I literally don't know who you are.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be funny, like okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean you show respect, but yeah, like you know,

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Speaker 1: Tell us how the basketball started going back and forth

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Speaker 1: getting in your life? Where you start liking basketball?

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Speaker 3: I was basically raised my grandparents, So baseball was they sport?

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Speaker 2: You know, old black man, Yeah, yeah, baseball.

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Speaker 3: You played baseball too, right, We talked about that. I

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Speaker 3: played baseball until like eighth grade. You know, I just

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Speaker 3: got tall and taller. My older cousin played basketball. I

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Speaker 3: used to going to court with him, about eight years

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Speaker 1: So seeing your older cousin that what made you like interested?

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Speaker 3: It was crazy. I saw him dunk and how it changes,

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Speaker 3: like the whole complex in the game, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. My cousin about six one sixty two. He

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Speaker 3: See another thing. My big cousin he played on his

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Speaker 3: So the coach, were you tall as a shorty?

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Speaker 2: Though? You strike me as one of the motherfuckers that

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Speaker 3: I was? I mean, now, my b feet I did.

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Speaker 3: I'm like looking at myself, I wasn't that damn tall.

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Speaker 2: That's tall, bro, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm tall. I was tall. So I was like six

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Speaker 3: just always put teams together, always come pick me up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's really where I really

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Speaker 3: learned how to play basketball. Like not just going there

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Speaker 3: I wasn't even organized, like who you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: They used to pick you up in like a church van?

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Speaker 4: Like people, these these youngres don't know how we do. Literally, Bro,

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Speaker 4: when I started playing, I'm not spend the van, but

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Speaker 4: the Warriors, Bro, the Illinois Warris And when I promised

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Speaker 4: you y'all talking about seats that was a luxury, I

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Speaker 4: swear to guy. When Butler used to come pick us up. Bro,

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Speaker 4: This before Cordell and d jasm got there. This is

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Speaker 4: when Bobby Smith was on the team. Kevin Jones, Bro

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Speaker 4: talking about, Man, we going to the low end to

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Speaker 4: pick up the antonio and smooth them silk, Bro, Church

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Speaker 4: Vane were sitting on crates. Jack, ain't no seats, It's

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Speaker 4: a it's a whole empty joint. You a slider.

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Speaker 2: You ain't close to the wall.

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Speaker 4: Jay, I'm talking about Dan Ryan Highway back and forth.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about going to the south, from the south

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about like you talking about Sprintterfeld did. We

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Speaker 4: fifteen passes, sleeping in the corners on your hem band.

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Speaker 3: You don't know nothing about how we used to do it.

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Speaker 3: We just doing them trips, like you said, like to

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Speaker 2: My legs were laying on each other.

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Speaker 3: We spitting fitting fifteen people in the twelve passive.

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Speaker 3: Man one that just don't want shower.

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Speaker 4: You know, at what point when you was growing up

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Speaker 4: mellow Man? Know what's crazy?

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Speaker 3: We in Baltimore, we always had somebody that was emerging,

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Speaker 3: Like before Mellow it was one dition before one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like actually see him excel like he really taught me

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Speaker 3: schot the mellow.

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Speaker 2: Man mellow Man blueprint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave me the blueprint. Yeah, really was like

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Speaker 3: there and I've seen it you know a lot of times.

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Speaker 3: You know sometimes you know how it is from Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of dudes that came out Chicago. Some

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Speaker 3: of them like a legend like touch the top of

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Speaker 3: the backboard. Yeah, he took a dollar up top there.

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Speaker 3: You know, talk about that. But you know, actually seeing

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Speaker 3: him excel change the trajectory for me because I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: That's how Q was for me because Q was a senior.

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Speaker 1: I was about to be a sophomore, just seeing the

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Speaker 1: blueprint of him, he making All State, he's running up

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Speaker 1: for mister basketball. Yeah, he running up probably, But but

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Speaker 1: you know McDonald McDonald's and all the accolades and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at him and seeing the blueprint, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by my senior year, these is all the boxes I

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Speaker 1: You ever think that like the journey you had, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know how it is. Once you get

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm a person that can really

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Speaker 3: How you're going to talk ship like defense like.

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Speaker 3: I said, you could get an actor on that and something. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you didn't play play damn defense.

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Speaker 3: I say, shout out to see some Kirk. I played

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Speaker 2: When when was the first time?

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Speaker 4: Like you know how it is, when we're coming up,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. The McDonald's is within my

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Speaker 3: So after that sophomore year, I went to Nike camp,

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Speaker 2: When I was You don't know that.

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Speaker 3: You pulled up the Nike camp when I was there.

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Speaker 4: You know it was with the old man that tell

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Speaker 3: You Yeah, everybody, yeah, you pulled up. But I wasn't

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Speaker 3: even ranked. I wouldn't. I was like top fifty in

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Speaker 2: Remember that's how my senior year. He was.

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Speaker 4: He was young, but like everybody was there. So it

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Speaker 4: you're coming out of there. The main I was there.

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Speaker 3: I was there when they probably heard about this. Remember

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Speaker 4: So you know who the first person to do that

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Speaker 4: though it was fifty, that was Corey mcgy.

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Speaker 3: He probably was built just like years and now what yeah,

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Speaker 4: Seventh grade, bro, Like, no bullshit, I'm different things. Cory's

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Speaker 4: is sixth grade. Like first time I ever seen Corey

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Speaker 4: He was six two and eighth grade and throwing that bit,

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Speaker 4: so like you got to think about his freshman years.

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Speaker 3: Boy headed Nah, no, I mean just.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Corey was that dude, like you know how every

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Speaker 2: So much more athletic than everybody. It didn't matter what.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't do nothing regular, everything looked too sweet. That

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Speaker 4: he just like every pictures like he was the prototype.

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Speaker 4: Like he did that as a freshman. They did the

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Speaker 4: same thing. He went half here, half here, rest history.

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Speaker 4: He never won in the country.

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Speaker 3: But no, that's when I knew I was getting old

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Speaker 3: because I'm in I was going. I forgot what I

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Speaker 3: think it's santatoy. I told kid, like, bro, if you

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Speaker 3: just do the mcghetti cut, He's like, what who that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I said, bro, no trip is over.

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Speaker 2: From my era. They know the mcghetti cut.

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Speaker 4: He coming from the top of the key, going right,

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Speaker 4: I promise, And he gonna you can't even get out

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Speaker 2: He taking the fact he's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna seek your body like and he's seeking missed when

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Speaker 1: To you, man, what how high was your confidence once

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean you know what, it wasn't even that

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Speaker 3: it was doing that. It's like you all once again

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Speaker 3: mellow right. So oak Hill came up to me, it

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Speaker 3: was like, man, we need you. I'm like, yo, my man,

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Speaker 3: with that. Okay, Now now I'm like I'm seeing the trajectory.

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Speaker 3: I didn't go, but I just knew, like, yeah, I ain't. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I ain't go because you know what that year and

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Speaker 3: I thought I put somewhere that we had the best house.

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Speaker 3: We had one of the best high school classes ever. Bro,

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Speaker 3: So I knew Rondo was going down. I knew Josh

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Speaker 3: there with them. Yeah, I knew what Randolph Moreo. Yeah

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Speaker 3: it was it was I think it was, Bro.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy my classing right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how was it when you did get to get

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Speaker 2: Because he was the superstar, he was a rock star.

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Speaker 4: He in there with the ball like just throwing no

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Speaker 4: gonna do it? But like just talk about that class,

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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, y'all had jay Z

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Speaker 4: showing up the different CITs I was doing, like because

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Speaker 3: What DMN and everybody made the league know what it was?

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Speaker 3: It was opening Cause you know, I'm Bro. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I told you how we should show up the game, right.

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Speaker 3: That showed me, like the other stuff about basketball and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I knew that not like that ain't

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Speaker 3: me you know what I'm saying, Like, yo, y'all talk whatever.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to hoop, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like all that kind of made me put me further

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Speaker 3: in my shell. Made me like, yo, I gotta just

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Speaker 3: stick to what I know. But I like, Basti's doing

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Speaker 3: all right talking. I wasn't never that guy, you know that,

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Speaker 3: like the joking, laugh and stuff. But I ain't trying

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Speaker 3: Like I ain't trying to be the center of attention, bro,

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Speaker 3: just like you know, I want to be known for

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Speaker 3: what I do. So that's one thing that showed me,

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Speaker 3: don't you know what I mean? What came with basketball

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Speaker 3: and that's what that's like. Luckily I learned in high

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Speaker 3: school because a lot of people, a lot of these

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Speaker 3: and damn.

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Speaker 2: Middle school almost right crazy.

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Speaker 3: But that's what told That showed me, like, yo, you

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Speaker 3: either lock in or you can be locked out.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, let me ask you, did

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Speaker 1: you consider going straight out of high school because y'all

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Speaker 3: See that's another reason, like bro, I was green. I

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Speaker 3: wentn't green to other stuff like this basketball shit, I ain't.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to like of course cool, but a year

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Speaker 3: before nobody knew who I was. I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: let me go, let me do it the right way.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 1: It's getting it was surreally yeah me.

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Speaker 3: It's like, bro, we've been broke. I've been broke all

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Speaker 3: my life. What's another year or two? Yeah, that really

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Speaker 3: dawned on me. And you know that changed everything.

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Speaker 1: Could have been anybody else, they could have got you

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Speaker 1: instead of youkn was you almost to go about to

437
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, you.

438
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 3: Know what in the back of my mind here but

439
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 3: not really who see I went. I went on to

440
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 3: visit in Maryland, just like a show love. But I

441
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,959
Speaker 3: went on campus. Man, I just didn't, like, you know,

442
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,479
Speaker 3: you didn't have to deal with this, but you know

443
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 3: how it is going to you go with a college coach.

444
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 3: Was just visit.

445
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 2: Youth like.

446
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 3: Coe visit fun.

447
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 1: I took all five of myst this boy this boy

448
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 1: pocketed the money and.

449
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 3: I did it too, but I had to take take

450
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: the boys in the visits.

451
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: Boy, you get paid. Hey listen, hey man, I showed

452
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 2: you around. I told you not to, and you did

453
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: right around. I came to kicking with you. Man.

454
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: You took me to the ESPN zone and I didn't

455
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 1: see you the next two counted.

456
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: That shouldn't counted. That you could have took another visit.

457
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't going to nobody's college the point trip. No,

458
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: he motherfucker.

459
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 3: Since we were kids.

460
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: He wanted to try to kick it with me, even

461
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: though something I told him, You're not going to college.

462
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: Don't even worry.

463
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 3: About it, going be reading what to do with me?

464
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: Enjoying the visit at the Paul, I know you wasn't going.

465
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: You went to Diversity rocking boat. I know about diversity

466
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 4: rocking ball. He was up there kicking you know what

467
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And you know after that.

468
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: We went down.

469
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: You wanted to hang with you. That's all.

470
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: That's the only reason. That's the only reason what the

471
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: vision going. I went to Saint John, I went to

472
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: Kentucky to Paul St.

473
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: Louis.

474
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 4: You ain't vis Yeah, who lin I ain't gonna no

475
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Who I've never heard you say you want

476
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: no North Caroline.

477
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: I've always always, always of the Yukon, especially in my position.

478
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: Before that we had Karan Butler done Marshall.

479
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: I was Butler. Yeah, that's what's crazy.

480
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: You would have been you. I would have named you

481
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: because if you went on campus, you would have went.

482
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: There about to visit that you took the manage you

483
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: that campus.

484
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Yo, it's Connecticut, bro, and that's the

485
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 3: biggest ship, you know what I mean, right by New York,

486
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: right by Boston. But like Boston got the Celtics, New

487
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: York got the Knicks, and every other team shooting were

488
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: the Huskies. You can't even go to the mall, you know,

489
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 3: you can't even go to like anywhere, like you like

490
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: you the man, like, that's that's our state, you know

491
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: what I mean. Shout out to Ben Gordon too, because

492
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 3: I like that was like, people don't realize how nice

493
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: Ben was.

494
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: What what then didn't hit the ring everything?

495
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they just brought them back to Yukon too,

496
00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: And shout out to I saw that man, man that

497
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: we need to.

498
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: Know more about it. You know what I'm saying because

499
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: Ben was Ben was a man. That was another one.

500
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: You're going, you're going on your visit? What events you

501
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: went on?

502
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 3: I just went to Maryland and you come, I will.

503
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 3: I scheduled Syracuse and.

504
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: Mellow tried to get you to go there.

505
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he called me if I didn't have ery.

506
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: He called me one day.

507
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: Man, this is funny. He called me. I'm like, uh, hello, Like,

508
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 3: what's up, nigga, I'm supposed to know who you is?

509
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: Said yo, Mellow. I said, oh, what's something man? Yeah, man,

510
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: you're coming? And not said what do you mean? Said

511
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: I mean? I said I don't know. He said, all right,

512
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: you're hooping them all. Yeah, I'm We went the hoop.

513
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 3: After that, it wasn't no more than that.

514
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: He was.

515
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: You know, he ain't care you committed early or you committed.

516
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: I committed uh early? Got yo, man. I got a

517
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 3: lot of trouble bro like n C double A all

518
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 3: that up.

519
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: My school investigated.

520
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: I got investigated, bro, like they thought I thought I

521
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: took money. Like back, that's crazy to say, like they

522
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: thought I took money. Well now they just give him money.

523
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: I got investigated too. When hey, let me ask you this,

524
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: This is the best part. People don't be understanding peoples.

525
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: When when did your investigation in? When were you clear?

526
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: I was clear right before I got on campus.

527
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: So you got investigated before you even got the school.

528
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: I got investigated the whole time before I got to school,

529
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 4: and I didn't get cleared after my rookie year in

530
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: the NBA.

531
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: They deemed that if it had they investigate you.

532
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: They had a boy that was a walk on.

533
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: So, like I you understand, it was a whole thing

534
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 4: at DePaul the Meyers, you know what I'm saying. And

535
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: Joey Myers was Ray Meyer's son at the time, and

536
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: he was like at the tail end of his whole thing.

537
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: And this is like the first time and however many

538
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: years at the university.

539
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: About to not have a Myers as the head coach.

540
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 4: And so it's like that whole you know, that following

541
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 4: in that loyalty to that and it was big follow

542
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: It didn't matter who's gonna be the coach that came in.

543
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: He was gonna catch hell. So it happened to be

544
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: my coach, Pat Kennedy. So when he got there, their

545
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: team was so bad that like he gave walk on

546
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: scholarships because all of the players had left and everything.

547
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 4: They had won like four games year before we came,

548
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 4: so it was like they were terrible. But then he

549
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: got the number one recruiting class. So when we came,

550
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 4: you guys have had them walk ons and had them scholarships.

551
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: Y'all losing them scholarships.

552
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: So one of of those, he from the South Side,

553
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 4: literally grew up around Cordell bro He tried to say

554
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: that me and Bobby that they told him that they

555
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: bought Bobby Simmons the starter jacket, like old little started jacket,

556
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: and that they bought me a Matten video game and

557
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: they let me keep it, like that was the cheating.

558
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: So they deemed at the end like this would have

559
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 4: just been deemed as like entertainment for the weekend. It

560
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: ain't like it ain't even over the price of like noning,

561
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. They broke the story when

562
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: the day of my graduation from high school and then.

563
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 2: Like I was under the investigation.

564
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: Still jacket, huh shit, kept that damn jacket.

565
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: But I wasn't even the one who supposedly got it back.

566
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 4: They said Bobby got the jacket. Oh yeah, one of

567
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 4: us got neither one of the ship. But it was

568
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 4: like he was just hey, the.

569
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: Same they have with me, though I actually it was

570
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: nothing with school. Somebody has sent me a box of

571
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: like Sean John close to my mom to the you know,

572
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: they sentd it right to the crib, which is you know,

573
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: I can't do that. So my mom was like, man,

574
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: send that back, send that back. And at that point

575
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: like yeah, like we ain't had nothing. But at the

576
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: end of the day, I'm from Baltimore. Like if I

577
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: needed something, I nowhere to go. You know what I'm saying,

578
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been no agent or nothing like that,

579
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: right yeah, right, yeah, right there shout out to my guys. Man.

580
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 3: But I sent it back. They kept on asking me questions,

581
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: acting like I did this and that, like man, look

582
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: let me go to my class, let me go play

583
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: and do whatever, because look, if I had it, you'll

584
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: be able to see it.

585
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying. It gotta be around down.

586
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: How was it for you going from the crib and

587
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: then when you got the stores, now you there you

588
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: you you kind of like this the first taste of

589
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: like yeah, like I'm out here, I ain't got no

590
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: mommy over my shoulder. You know, how was that you

591
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: getting the campus and making that adjustment and being on

592
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: your own.

593
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Man, it was honestly like, I ain't never really been

594
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: from home away from home other than going back and

595
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: forth with my family, So leave me on campus on myself.

596
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: It's funny because the first person I've ever seen on

597
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: campus was CV Charlie the Wave. They fresh off a championship,

598
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: so yeah, swagged, he swagged out, He swagged out.

599
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm in there.

600
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: It's like ten o'clocks, like we got practicing. Man, he

601
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: get on campus, so I'm in the bed. We didn't

602
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 3: have well, we share. It was like a sweet so

603
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: I had a room, bathroom room, so it really I

604
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: couldn't lock the door from the right. Some sleep, I'm thinking,

605
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: I get up, I hoop them up. You coming there, yo,

606
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: wake your alass up. We all like out with We

607
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: went to this college party and he like, yo, you

608
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: welcome to you baby, So that what happened. We in there,

609
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: We're just chilling. Everybody come up to him, and nobody

610
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: even knew that. I was like a f Charlie telling

611
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: everybody that's my little brother or whatever, little brother, little brother.

612
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: So everybody thinking I'm Spanish, so I was doing with it.

613
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: It was like, all right, I speak Spanish. I gotta

614
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: learned that. But it was a crazy night and we

615
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: got blocked in because we did have the hoop. In

616
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: the morning, there was a car blocking um saying what

617
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: Charlie's car? The whole frame picked the caup and moved

618
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: it out the way for us. I was like, all right,

619
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm in com now. I played for you. You know

620
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

621
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: This is what we got the best returney on camp,

622
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: the basketball, all this, we the Coders will turning around here.

623
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: And we off a chip like.

624
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: I thought, I want to chip.

625
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Look, that's crazy.

626
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: How was coach Calhoun when you got there and you

627
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: actually started to play on you know Hall of Fame?

628
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: You know you crazy? Was crazy? The same guy that

629
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: set on your couch.

630
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: No know, that's the story. So he came in and

631
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: my mother mother talking to him, He like, how you doing?

632
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

633
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: And that you know he talking like with that voice.

634
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: So I called him like, yo, I think I'm a company.

635
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: He's like, man, that's that's great news. I'm gonna tell everybody.

636
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: We just gonna get you set up. So they dropped

637
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: me off on campus and I'm in my room so

638
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: everybody leaves. He come back, he said, remember the dude

639
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: was at your house. That motherfucker gone.

640
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, he's Crazyboddy about.

641
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: I got you now you can't go, no, brother, When

642
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: you heard that you won cole Big East Player of

643
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: the Year, how did you feel you did that?

644
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: Uncle jeff Man g Man, I have to enjoyed town

645
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: doing big thing.

646
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: Know what.

647
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: I never really got a chance to enjoy that because

648
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: you know how it is, bro, when you're so focused

649
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: on something. It's like, man, bro, this you know, I'm

650
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: just trying to get my name called. You know what

651
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying. This is like something that I did on

652
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: the way to where I get and right even now,

653
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: like sometimes I was looking back like maamn, I did that.

654
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: He don't know how that feels. Didn't get brought up

655
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: that like Player of the Year, Freshman of the year.

656
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: You know when you.

657
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: When you went any when it comes to that, man,

658
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: you feel like your peers respect what you bring to

659
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: the table.

660
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what you're doing, like how

661
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: you playing?

662
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: So you know, any award like that, especially if it's

663
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: a code and all that stuff like they respect.

664
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: He just gave it to Jeff Green.

665
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: And that's another dude that I've been playing against since

666
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: middle school man because he's from d C. So that's

667
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: right up the street we used to Jeff Ain't had

668
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: no tooth for senior year. Yeah. Yeah, if you look

669
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: back at all metro, Jeff ain't got no tooth man.

670
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: You don't got no tooth or no teeth.

671
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: He got no tooth.

672
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: We're missing one tooth man.

673
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: God damn j G. That's Jeff. That's listen.

674
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: That's crazy because y'all too, in particular you and Jeff

675
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: Green if you like, you go to college too.

676
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: But fuck that you talk about league.

677
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: Y'all got two of the probably most underrated mixtapes on

678
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: dunk hear you, y'all motherfuckers and body a lot of mouf.

679
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Hey, listen a lot. I'm telling you it's not somebody y'all.

680
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: Two are not like the first people, like hey who

681
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: they not the first two people ladies and gentlemen. But

682
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: I promise you go on YouTube and google Jeff Green

683
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: Dunks and then Rudy Gate Dunks, and I promise you

684
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: they didn't dunked on some of the people y'all think.

685
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: They have dunked on, and it's so fucking any of them.

686
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: Man, Jeff got them big ass heads.

687
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: It's left right there.

688
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: He just Jeff, is Jeff come off the bench right now,

689
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: dunk in the game.

690
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: Right here you want? And he had right leg ship

691
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: it was goofy, right leg, left hand.

692
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: Let be acting Jeff like me, just say about bro,

693
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: do you why are you still out there doing it?

694
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: I ain't mad at him.

695
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: I ain't mad at him, but I just don't don't

696
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: know how physically how you can do that, Bro. I

697
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: was there with him.

698
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: And then the coldest part is that my man had

699
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: open heart search. We all thought it was over for him,

700
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: Like shout out JG Man, that's real, bro, like that,

701
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: Like how many people had that and DN still got

702
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: like twelve years behind it.

703
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like people don't really and

704
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: y'all know how it is playing this league and for

705
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: people out there that don't man to make it to

706
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: the league period long. You want to only like three

707
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: thousand people and that's not you know what I'm saying.

708
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: It's three thousand people in the building out here. You know,

709
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, but the fact that he's able to

710
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: do it at this long period of time, bruh, and

711
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: y'all y'all know, bro, that's it's not even like it

712
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: gets to a point where it's like, Okay, I'm working,

713
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: and now it's like, okay, now you know, you gotta

714
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: work a little harder because your body fucked up. Then

715
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: you get to the point where you're in the locker

716
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: room with children, and now now mentally, now mentally it's different,

717
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Now they listening to you know,

718
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: little Yachty and and all that stuff, like, man, listen,

719
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: you're making jokes about Martin. They don't know the hell you.

720
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: Transition to me was this because I got to play

721
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: the thirteen and then shot straight up, and then I

722
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: went from playing to like with Detroit played the Vents.

723
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: So I was still right there in the locker room

724
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: in the craziest transition. I couldn't eat. The lines blurred,

725
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: but I couldn't remember, like when the fuck did they

726
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: start having phones in here? Like right at the half, Like, bro,

727
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: no bullshit, My last in trying to like in a

728
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: locker room, like between when I played and when I

729
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: was working with the Pistons. It was like this is

730
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: foreign to me, and I had to like go talk

731
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: to stand and make like hey, like how should I really?

732
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: Because I want to say something, Bro. I had a

733
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 4: hard time dealing with it. I was sitting here like, man,

734
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: what the who the fuck are y'all taxing? What's going on?

735
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: That part fucked with me heavily. I had a problem

736
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: with just know what got me?

737
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: Know what got me is, man, you might have got

738
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: your ass what forty or something, but dude might have

739
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: had a nice ass crossovers up under they posted like

740
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: seven times like we posted people. I'm like, bro, do

741
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: you know what we just did? We just got our

742
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: ass what? But it's like it's everybody. This social media

743
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: has made everybody they own their own individuals.

744
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: The Brandy Yeah yeah.

745
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: I thought the brand for us was just hoop, like yo,

746
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: we all win shit. Everybody don't get what they want.

747
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: I had to learn back then, Bro, I couldn't deal

748
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: with people laughing and joking on the I used to

749
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: be on them and I'm like, I'm not even a

750
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: player no more, but I'm still too close to it.

751
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: I used to be sitting there looking back like, yo,

752
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: like you got the radio on this ship, like that's

753
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: reserved for winners. You didn't fucking wint.

754
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: But since you, like you got in this league with eighteen, yeah, eighteen,

755
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: So how long did it take you to feel like

756
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: you was an OG? Because I know I remember like

757
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: saying everybody like like I looked up to y'all. So

758
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: like when I see ya on the sideline, on the

759
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: coaching staff or you know, doing stuff other than being

760
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: on the court, it's like, damn like ship, y'all gone,

761
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm the OG now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

762
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: So win win for you. Because you started younger than me.

763
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: Well, my situation was different because shit, every team I

764
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: played on, probably to y'all, but every team I played on,

765
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: the organization was restarted, you know what I'm saying. We

766
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: got with the Clippers, we was rookie. Then I got

767
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: traded to Cleveland. They got rich, all the veterans and

768
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: bought all the lebron and Dwane Wagner's kind of chopping

769
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: all them, got to Portland, got rid of shout out

770
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: and got a job sheet and all them, you know

771
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, got to y'all after that I look up. Shit,

772
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest, but I was only Remember I retired

773
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: when I was twenty eight. Yeah right, yeah, I played

774
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: ten years for time when I was twenty eight. When

775
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: I got with y'all, I was like twenty seven.

776
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I'm saying.

777
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking you old as hell, but look check it out.

778
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: He was.

779
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: He was one of the best best out I had.

780
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Though.

781
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Man, you gave me the give me the I used

782
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: to watch. I drove the Fantom. You know what I'm

783
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: saying this man, Look, he told me, like, I'm moving

784
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: to my house. Man, let me escalating. I said, what

785
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna give me? He gave me the big boy fan.

786
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm driving around Memphis, but I'm hot as hell. Man,

787
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, let me say you park this

788
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: motherfucker I live in in the townhouse. You know, hey, man,

789
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: he took care of You know, I had to watch.

790
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 6: Man.

791
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: I thought I broke it one time to get fixed.

792
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: I think you knew that.

793
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying.

794
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: But you know it ain't no more any more. Vets

795
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: though in the league it is no more. Vest Like,

796
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: it's no more.

797
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: He was like last last, Like tell me, uh you

798
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: know you went through ukon you got Player of the Year.

799
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: But tell me about the tournament. I think be Roy

800
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: puts you all out. Now we beat we put them out.

801
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: Ya started off beef. Remember that we used to did

802
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: be real beef. But you know me and him used

803
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: to try to want edit that game.

804
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Who y'all lose?

805
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: We lost to George Mason? Remember the George that that

806
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: was terrible.

807
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: That was tell me your you know remember Martsch madness experience,

808
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: especially y'all coming off of championship and you know y'all

809
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: did all that talent.

810
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still feel like that's like something

811
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: I missed out on. Like we were heading shoulders better

812
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: than everybody out there. Man, we just that's what it

813
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: is about the tournam Man, you don't show up one day.

814
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: One day, you don't show up, and you know we

815
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: turned them into a Cinderella And that's I mean, it's

816
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: some respecting that. But at the end of the day, man,

817
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: if you if you talented, like they were supposed to

818
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: win and we didn't. So you know, when did you

819
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: know you were about to get up out of there?

820
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: Like all right after we lost in them, I went home.

821
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: I didn't even go back to school. I said, no,

822
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm done. I can't you know what I mean, all

823
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: that work and we lost. I'm about to see what

824
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: I can do up here.

825
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: I ain't workouts you did?

826
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: I did six?

827
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Did you know you was going to Memphis or did

828
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: you think he was going somewhere else?

829
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: I didn't really know. What's funny because he and b

830
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 3: Roy kind of got into it that game, like really

831
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: like almost fought so always kind of like I wouldn't say, like,

832
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: you know how it is competitive like man man like Robb. Yeah, right,

833
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it was like

834
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: we worked out together. It was me, him and Adam Morrison.

835
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: Did y'all blessing that.

836
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: You gotta ask this because back then a lot of

837
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: bullshit was going on. Because they worked out again, don't

838
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: mean they competed, y'all.

839
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: We went to Charlotte, you know how MJ was there,

840
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: so you know, y'all got to it. He was like,

841
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: we want yeah, we bringing them in, y'all go compete

842
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: with the Charlotte. We played in Charlotte, We played in Chicago.

843
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: That's when what was the scouts Scholar was there.

844
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Man.

845
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: We went through layup line scouts stopped everything. He said,

846
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: you motherfuckers said, he said, it's Saturday. That could be

847
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: with my fucking kids. Man, if y'alln't want to be here,

848
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: just lead going through lat Line, Windmill and everything. He

849
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: out the fighting everything, but in Portland. So we worked

850
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: out in Portland. So on.

851
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: Y'all got like three different spots, but y'all really got

852
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: the bump.

853
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how that's the respect between me and

854
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: b Roy. That's where that's where it started. Like b

855
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: Roy is like he's b Roy and like now and

856
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: we're still looking like damn, what could have been? But

857
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: you know that's where it's respect between me and him

858
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: started because we were competing and you know Adam Morrison,

859
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: you know, one of one of the best cars runs ever.

860
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: But you know it really was on both on his

861
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: ass like all right, like have you ever been to

862
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: Memphis when you got.

863
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: No?

864
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: See? The funniest thing about it is, Yeah, the funniest

865
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: thing about it is, bro, I'm from Baltimore, so we

866
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: my favorite rappers was like Project Past three six. We

867
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: used to bump that all through high school, Like I

868
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: don't know nothing but what they saying these songs so

869
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: when I'm living there, like, damn Orange, ma'am, Damn we

870
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: doing Hollywood. I'm like, and it was That's what they

871
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: said it was.

872
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: But definitely, yeah, I love Memphis.

873
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Though, how was it for you?

874
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, draft night, Like, I know,

875
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: you got your family and everybody. They're like, how was

876
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: it taking that whole? Because it's you know, for us,

877
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 4: this is what we watched for years and years and years,

878
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: and I was like, bitch, I'm here, I'm in the

879
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: green room, I got this suit on, my mom, my family,

880
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: all my people. We here like talk about you know

881
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, the totality of that night, and then

882
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, obviously, the the you know

883
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: that moment when you get to do what you saw

884
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 4: everybody else do, walk on that stage and say David

885
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: Stern hen Yeah.

886
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: I mean that night was crazy for me because that's

887
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: another situation because we were just talking about b Roy.

888
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: I worked out for Shaw twice. They had the third

889
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 3: pick and me, b Roy and Adam were there at first,

890
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: and you know, we were doing our thing, were competing whatever,

891
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: so they y'all all cooked him. Yeah, So we asked, asked,

892
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: me to come back, and b Roy didn't show up

893
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: because I don't think b Roy wanted to go there,

894
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it was me and Adam,

895
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: so I do the same thing. So I talked to him.

896
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 3: You know, at that point, MJ is the president whatever,

897
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: he's doing his presidential ship, like saying, just bullshitting. But

898
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: for sure I thought I was going third and when

899
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: I when that third pick came and I didn't get drafted,

900
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: I was hot. So from then on it was like

901
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: a blur. I don't even remember, like I wanted to

902
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: be like like celebrating, but you know, at that point,

903
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got some work to do, right, Yeah,

904
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: So that was I was hot, bro I didn't honestly,

905
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: I didn't even wear Jordan's for a couple of years.

906
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: But it was so hard I had to.

907
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: I had to start falling back on you know, dudes

908
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: come out with some more and I you.

909
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: Know, listen, that'd be the hard part.

910
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: By being there at the draft, like luckily it was

911
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 4: only five picks, you had to wait. How was that though,

912
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: to get drafted to the Rockets and then get traded

913
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: on draft? Like did you know, like when when you

914
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: got drafted where you were you thinking I'm be a

915
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: rocket then you got got the call like I'm going

916
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: to Memphis.

917
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason why a teammate

918
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: bust my ass like it did. Bro. I'm be honest

919
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: with you, because he was there and that's with you. Yeah,

920
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: it's like yo, like that was during the time when

921
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: he had the back issues. He even play. And I

922
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: don't know if they thought I was going to beat

923
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: a new team Mac or whatever, but I always looked

924
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: up at teammack and I think I would have been

925
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: a better player if I would have played behind him.

926
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 2: First.

927
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: You know, obviously I'm happy about Memphis, but you know,

928
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: if I would have played behind team at for a

929
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: year and two, I would have learned a lot. But

930
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: we matched up in Memphis preseason. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

931
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, man. Second, that was

932
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: the second place preseason game. I told you forty two man,

933
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: like twenty five minutes.

934
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a preseason game. I watched you in college.

935
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit of you in high school,

936
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: watched you in college, but when I actually got to

937
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Memphis and seeing you, one of the memories that I

938
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: won't forget. I'll be telling my guys that I remember

939
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: we was a practice and the ball was just rolling

940
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: downe the goal. You grabbed and just like threw it

941
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: between your legs and just dump that mug. And he

942
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, practice over with you? Remember, Yeah, let

943
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: me ask you this too. We used to be at practice.

944
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: I felt like Kyle used to get the best of.

945
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: What you about to say, no, he said, yeah, I

946
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: feel like.

947
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry used to get the best of Mike. Kyle.

948
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when they got rid of Kyle and kept

949
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Mike and put Mike in the forefront. Was you surprised

950
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: about that me just being there because I was only

951
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: there half a year for real? But you surprised that

952
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: both of them just turned out to be great, solid players,

953
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Like both of them turned out.

954
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: To be good. Now.

955
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: I think that's what both of them needed. You know

956
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: how Kyle was Kyle's aggressive, aggressive dog. You know what

957
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I wouldn't say arrogant, but yeah, he was arrogant,

958
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Yeah, my dog forever.

959
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 3: And you know, Mike was the exact opposite. And I

960
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: think the fact that Kyle left realized this is the

961
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: NBA and ain't nothing. Ain't nothing certain. I think those

962
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: practices between Mike and Kyle made Mike who he is

963
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: because like because Kyle was a dog, like he would

964
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: do a little dirty stuff like he Mike tell this

965
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: all the time in practice.

966
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: Not no physical like I beat your ass well like nah,

967
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: just super competitive aggressive every time they matched up with

968
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: So I thought I watched Mike and Collin. I thought

969
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Mike was nice, but I didn't realize he can really

970
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: play on this level until Kyle left.

971
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he needs that, like cause Liono came in

972
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: and basically said, Yo, this is our guy, like Coley

973
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: is the guy you know. So you know Kyle, let

974
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: me tell you something about Kyle, but y'all might not know.

975
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: Like Kyle's like that in every aspect of life, like

976
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: he just so we have mutual friends and everything. They

977
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: call him Dennis the minace. Are you a mini So

978
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: that that's what he is, like, not even just an ass.

979
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: So he just pesky like how you playing like bro,

980
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: you're playing cards? Like if he anything bro like if

981
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: any think he just pesky like that that's how he is.

982
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: And you know, liking College of loving them. But you know,

983
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: I think once Mike saw you know that and then

984
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: had that off his back, It's like, Okay, now I

985
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: can just play, but he still had that in the

986
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: back of his mind. And that's how shit is now,

987
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So and Kyle went and

988
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: did his thing in Houston and playoffs and all that

989
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: stuff and became who we know today. But you know,

990
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: they both legends in my in my and my mind.

991
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, they both was good. I'll be telling

992
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: folks about this all the time. They both how their

993
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: careers kind of turned out any of each other. Like

994
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Mike became the highest paid player in the NBA.

995
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: That was crazy and I respect the ship out of him.

996
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: But that's you know, Kyle win a championship lay away

997
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: he put.

998
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: That was cold blooded.

999
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: Like seeing them that early and then seeing their careers

1000
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: and seeing who they turned out to be, Like they

1001
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: some some dope point guards for real, Like you say,

1002
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: they legends in their own Yeah, well.

1003
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: How was it for you to yo from Like you know,

1004
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 4: you say, your first year was cool, you have eleven

1005
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: points twenty seven minutes, you know what I'm saying. But

1006
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: then your next year you you jumped to a dug

1007
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: run up for most improved Player, Like now like you

1008
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: really like on the map as far as the league, Like,

1009
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: averaging twenty in the league is a big.

1010
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: Back then the fourth player on the team average twenty.

1011
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: But back then it's like we're only scoring what seventy?

1012
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: Nah, That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, how

1013
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: was that for you? Like to how did that?

1014
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: Because you know how it is like when you go

1015
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: back home for the summer after that, I just have

1016
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 4: to a dub bitch. I'm walking around here, like you

1017
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like, how was that for you?

1018
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: Like going having a big time season? Like and it

1019
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: was on your second season, so it's like from that point,

1020
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: clearly everything is looking up.

1021
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: You telling how you feel, like how was that?

1022
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean that year was basically just a trial year

1023
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: for me. I just knew what I knew what I

1024
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: can do at that point, Like they the organization said, look,

1025
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: we're just gonna do We're gonna go over, You're going

1026
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: let him, let him hoop. And you know it was

1027
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 3: a twenty and I've averaged better twenties in my career.

1028
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: That was you know, that was one of the twenties, like, man,

1029
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: we throw ship at you know, see what I can do.

1030
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: You know, I got a I got a bad rap

1031
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: because of that year. But you know I've gotten you know,

1032
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: I had to. I was growing from that. I became

1033
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: a better player. Like I said, I have I've had

1034
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: better twenties.

1035
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it is I was Damon started

1036
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: my day, you know, you know mighty Mouse, I was.

1037
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: I was dating start of my like effective with you.

1038
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Once he got on the coaching stuff.

1039
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: So he was there my rookie year. So I played

1040
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: with him and yeah, bro, I'm talking about you know

1041
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: how it is, you know man, ship man everything. So

1042
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: I asked him questions. He was like ship Man like

1043
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean every time he's asked me

1044
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: question Like he was like, uh, I remember we were

1045
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: playing here in the bay. He passed me the ball

1046
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: and I pulled up for a three clank that ship.

1047
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: It was in like a pit the part of the game.

1048
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: He said, Man, I gave the ball to dunket man.

1049
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: So it just made you like just having somebody on

1050
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: your ass every day. That just like out of love though,

1051
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: because you know, Biggie like get laugh and joke with you, like,

1052
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: you know, he'll come up with a flyship like what

1053
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: I guy? You know what I mean? He was a vet.

1054
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: He was like my first vet. You know that that

1055
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, one of them?

1056
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you know what I'm saying. He was,

1057
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: you know he was. He wasn't him sins right after

1058
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: he had his knee surgery, so he wasn't himself. But

1059
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: you know he really used his voice to help me.

1060
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: Man.

1061
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: I still think it for this day, Like I whenever

1062
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: I get a chance to talk about who was in

1063
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: my corner, Like, you know, I had a bunch of people,

1064
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: had you, I had z Bo, I had Damon, I

1065
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: had Chucky Atkins, like I had a bunch of likely

1066
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: Mike Miller had a lot of guys to help me.

1067
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: What was the z Bo effect? Because I was there, yeah,

1068
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: right the year before. I was there the year before,

1069
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: and you know I tried to put it all on y'all.

1070
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I I tried to put it all on y'all, give

1071
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: y'all everything to make the playoffs.

1072
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1073
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 3: We know, but we wasn't that bad that though. Yeah,

1074
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: they took you know what I'm saying. You know, what

1075
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, just do.

1076
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: But the thing is the year before you O, J,

1077
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Mike Conley and Mark was on you'all way like all

1078
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: y'all was was super talented.

1079
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: But it seemed like once z Bo got there, that

1080
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: was the.

1081
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: Together in t A two.

1082
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, t A two to get there?

1083
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: What was that effect on y'all because your team was

1084
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: totally different after that.

1085
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: You know, we were good when we were young. You

1086
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: know how it was, Bro and know what and yeah

1087
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: that too, but you know, like we were young, we

1088
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: were trying, but you know, you were a different player

1089
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: than like ze Bo and like you were, you wasn't yourself,

1090
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So, but the thing about

1091
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: it is z y'all run the same age's got the

1092
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: same voice, but he's also going out there and he's

1093
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: a dog, you know what I'm saying. So he was

1094
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: still doing it and that's I think that's we didn't have.

1095
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: That bullshit about me because I didn't. No no, no, no,

1096
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: they'll put me in five men.

1097
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure time man, Yeah, but you did do that,

1098
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: But no disrespect because you know when you came in there, Bro,

1099
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: it's like Yo, I looked up to him growing up

1100
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: like I want to hear what you gotta say. Now,

1101
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: he didn't really talk as much as you did, but

1102
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: you know, he go out there and be like, you know.

1103
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: Bro, like you know, you know, z Bo one of

1104
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: the most unique teammates I ever had in my life.

1105
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: Bro Ever, people don't realize how funny. People don't realize

1106
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: the teammates. Yeah, he's a great teammates.

1107
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: Great teammate, but like you gotta understand, bro, Like, and

1108
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: this is saying this respectfully.

1109
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: If z Bo is one of them dudes, it was

1110
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: like the picture of perfection.

1111
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 4: And you know, on your team like Tobias Harris type,

1112
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: Like I feel like Tobias Harris is he's a pros

1113
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: pro that boy gonna be way's bos to be be

1114
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 4: doing what he's supposed to do.

1115
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: Show up.

1116
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: He's supposed to show up, always accountable, always handling his business,

1117
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: whether it's a lift, whether it's.

1118
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: This, Like he just that guy.

1119
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Z Bo was never that.

1120
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: No, but the way that he could impact your team,

1121
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: regardless of other people might see it on the other dots,

1122
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: like his teammates, all of them, everybody.

1123
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: Gonna look out.

1124
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: He's gonna do stuff. He's gonna take care of you

1125
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 4: and he in that foxhole. He a foxhold dude. Ain't

1126
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: nothing gonna happen to you that ain't gonna happen to

1127
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: him if he with you, whether it's on the court,

1128
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 4: out in somewhere.

1129
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: All of those different things.

1130
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 4: And like, I love the fact that he got finally

1131
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: got put on that stage when he was with y'all,

1132
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: cause like he been that good.

1133
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 2: And we all know this from being in the league.

1134
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: It's a lot of dudes that don't get the credit

1135
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: they deserve, whether it's from a leadership position, from like

1136
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: not being like super cold, but being like a leader.

1137
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of guys on some teams that

1138
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: don't get to the playoffs don't get that credit. But

1139
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: like it be a dude that you wouldn't even expected,

1140
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: Like this dude is a crazy dude for this team,

1141
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: but he don't never get the spotlight because they didn't

1142
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: make it that far to really get that spotlight put

1143
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: on him.

1144
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: So when z Bo got there for y'all, I felt like,

1145
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: y'all just figuring this out.

1146
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: So think about him. Thinking about Zebo is like you know,

1147
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: people talk or whatever say that you never hear his

1148
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: teammates saying that, and that's all. Like you know how

1149
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: it is, Bro. We talk about this and that, but

1150
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's like, Yo, if

1151
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: you got guys out there that will ride for you

1152
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: no matter what, Bro, I want to be on your team. Bro,

1153
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So like man, and even

1154
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: like at one point, like when we said, like I

1155
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: called you, I think I don't know if you remember,

1156
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: Like he's like, Man, that's my dog. That's my dog.

1157
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: That's how much I valued his opinion. Now I don't

1158
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: care no more.

1159
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1160
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: I called him and he was like, yeah, Zebra, my dog,

1161
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: you wanna be good? All right? Cool? Cool? Yeah, But

1162
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: Zebo my man.

1163
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: Still to this statement, Zebo got you know, playing with y'all. Man,

1164
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: he finally got out the recognition that he deserved because

1165
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: he was starting to be a kind of a journey man.

1166
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, he loved pulling, went to New York and

1167
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: went to l a Clippers. But then he got there

1168
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: and it was just like you know what I'm saying,

1169
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: He finally got appreciated for what he brought.

1170
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: Man, Blake, because of that two out of the Clippers.

1171
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh that's why you gotta trade because he was coming.

1172
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: That's that's some of the he wanted to play in

1173
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: that story.

1174
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 5: Bro.

1175
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: You know y'all know the playoff series with the Clippers. Man,

1176
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: they ze Bo took that serious. You know what I'm saying,

1177
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: It's like real serious it was.

1178
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: He took that.

1179
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: Go back and look at the clips.

1180
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: Man, tell me this though, everything you had went through,

1181
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: everything you've been through, growing this, that and third when

1182
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: you when you sign that five, you're eighty two?

1183
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: What was that light right there? Man?

1184
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: That's now. Ain't nobody's that certain.

1185
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: Fering I'm here like eighty eighty anything.

1186
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: Man, his age is making more than that. Now.

1187
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: We can't talk about that now like you.

1188
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: Dollars like talk like so like we all talk about

1189
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: all us old here could talk about that.

1190
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: We was all born five to seven eight years too soon?

1191
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: Too soon, bro, Like too soon you're.

1192
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: Looking at all type of people. Georgia's yang.

1193
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Come on, but like, yeah, I mean to be honest

1194
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: with you, bro, like how I grew up. Man, it

1195
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: was just good. It was just good to have somebody,

1196
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: just organizations just ride with you, you know what I mean,

1197
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: just to have somebody just look, this is our guy,

1198
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: Like we're gonna stick with him, bro, because I had

1199
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: moved around houses and this and that all my life.

1200
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I'm gonna be in Memphis and that

1201
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: was what six or seven years like, Bro, Memphis is

1202
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: like I say, I'm from here and there, but like Bro,

1203
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 3: I was that's home. Like I was raised in Memphis,

1204
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: Bro from nineteen to twenty six to twenty seven.

1205
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: Like come on, man, let me ask you this when

1206
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: you did get that bad because I don't want to

1207
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: hear about what you did for moms or nobody else.

1208
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: I won't hear about a dumb ass car, dumb ass

1209
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 4: watch or something crazy. Now you you you're kind of older,

1210
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: you look back on like those pibabs too. But like

1211
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: in this moment when I signed A two, I said, bitch,

1212
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: already know it's what I'm about to fucking do.

1213
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: Nobody could tell me about. We all had that moment.

1214
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: We all had that on what we knew.

1215
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: We might not have knew what contract we was getting,

1216
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: but were planning for Like, bitch, I'm about to treat myself.

1217
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: Like what what did Rudy Gay do when he got

1218
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: that baggage claim?

1219
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Man?

1220
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: Let me tell you we went to I think he's

1221
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: in right now. He was that the next k.

1222
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: He's going, I wasn't.

1223
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't nothing doing that. Yeah, it was doing that

1224
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: that next summer. What might have been that year. I

1225
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: don't know when it happened, but I'm me and my

1226
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: boys were supposed to go to Vegas Memorial Day. He

1227
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 3: was just you know what I'm saying. So he was

1228
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: a myth. He was just chilling.

1229
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: That shows how young you were going World Day in Vegas.

1230
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: You're going to More Day in Vegas of mine. You

1231
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 4: are young and we were young.

1232
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 3: We were young.

1233
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: Bad decisions.

1234
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: So I was like, we missed our flight because we

1235
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: went out. We probably went to somewhere. Curtis giving us.

1236
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: He missed his flight.

1237
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: So now we're about to call in the Yeah, so

1238
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: we just secured. We just called you can call a

1239
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: man al Palagonia shout.

1240
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: After in New York.

1241
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: Goddamn damnet. We got the Vegas a.

1242
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: Lot of time, pride, Me and my wife went on

1243
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: our honeymoon.

1244
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: Big guy, big ass shout.

1245
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: Than Guiller. Thank You.

1246
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: Know.

1247
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Everybody feels like the team that drafted him they was

1248
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna play with them forever. What was it like when

1249
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: you left and went to Toronto.

1250
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 3: Man, it was tough because at that point I thought

1251
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: we was getting to the point where we you know,

1252
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: we was about to make something happen. Yeah, we was

1253
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: about to be on. Like I had been there long enough.

1254
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: I figured out, like us as a team, we figured

1255
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: each other out. It wasn't like that something that went

1256
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: sour because we was tight as a team.

1257
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: You know, everybody, we all knew.

1258
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: We knew Mike Collins who he was, you know, Zebo,

1259
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: you knew Tony, you know, and they knew. They knew,

1260
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: Like like I hang with you every now and there,

1261
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: but you know, I go do my own things. Sometimes.

1262
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: It just was like that. But you know it was

1263
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: you know that hurt, bro Like you know what I'm saying,

1264
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 3: Like Memphis, Like I said, I grew up there, and

1265
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: it hurt because I felt like I've been there, like

1266
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: I was.

1267
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: Whenever you leave your first team, that's your first thought.

1268
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: What all that was though, you know what I'm saying,

1269
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: I was there when when they traded Power, he was

1270
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he was scraping. And then

1271
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: get to the point where you know what I mean,

1272
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: But it never it's always.

1273
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: You see the team go from not being the win

1274
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: team to in the playoffs and yeah that playoff atmosphere

1275
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: and you know the city.

1276
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: Behind wasn't when you got the t do though, Like

1277
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: how was that? Like like you in another country? Now,

1278
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: go ahead ask your question. I know you want to ask.

1279
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: You you change your money?

1280
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: That he asked everybody whoever played you.

1281
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: Change your money when you got.

1282
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: And listen, I bought a house in Florida just because

1283
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: of Toronto. That's when I moved to South Florida. I

1284
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: got rid of the house since then. But Toronto was it.

1285
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: It's tough, bro, It's not like don't get me wrong.

1286
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: It's a great city. Listen, everybody know that city.

1287
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 4: Like for you to go on the road when you

1288
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: would at whatever team, I'm not gonna lie. I've never

1289
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: had a bad time in Toronto, but listening, I just

1290
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: couldn't even fathom living in there because everybody to come

1291
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: visit gotta go goddamn through customs every time.

1292
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: Like that right there, that right there is some bullsh.

1293
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah the team when when you on the team, you

1294
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: gotta go through customs in and out. It's like just

1295
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: like y'all this is like the.

1296
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: Only trip there. Well, I'm from the era. Whe we

1297
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 4: went to Vancouver to it was the only two trips

1298
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: when we had to go through real life customs go

1299
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: to the airport.

1300
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: So basically every road game, every road game.

1301
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: I just couldn't even imagine that, bro. Never Like I

1302
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: was like, yo, the hoop.

1303
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: You fit in perfectly with what they had going on?

1304
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: How did you love the Hoop?

1305
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: It was good man, Kyle Kyle, Kyle was there, DeMar,

1306
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: who is my dog, Like Damar is like my brother.

1307
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: That's killer right there he is, and he's still doing it.

1308
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: You know, we you know, we just we got together,

1309
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: like I I knew them all. We did some Nike

1310
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: stuff like a couple of years Pride, and we just

1311
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: kicked it and it kind of became friends then. But

1312
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, me and Kyle, Kyle got me up to speed.

1313
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: It was just, you know, it was one of those

1314
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: situations where I got caught up in the mix, like

1315
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: it got a different ownership and whatever.

1316
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: About how wack it is to get traded in season, man,

1317
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: Like I say that all the time, like I've been traded.

1318
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: I've been traded a few times, and I think the

1319
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: good heavens that I've never got traded man, I feel

1320
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: like that's the worst. I feel like that's the worst

1321
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: ship in the history of being traded. It don't matter,

1322
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: Like to be traded in the middle of a season

1323
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: is the worst ship.

1324
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: All my ship was in customs. They couldn't get out.

1325
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: It was in customs for the rest of the season.

1326
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: I got traded in Like it was like around this time.

1327
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: All my ship was left in customs for until the

1328
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: next season. You couldn't get it out for months? Why no,

1329
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: because it was just stuck in customs. You know. It's like,

1330
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, stuck in the syst.

1331
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Well, it's still transferred from Toronto back to the States.

1332
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it just what they wouldn't send it.

1333
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: We're able to forget that shit.

1334
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: Were you aware though? Like you had one of the

1335
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: weirdest situations where even though you left, you still led

1336
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies and scoring and Toronto and scoring.

1337
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: Like, were you aware of that?

1338
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: Nah?

1339
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: You led both of them in scoring that year, which

1340
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 4: is like a rarity, some weird shit that don't really happen.

1341
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, seventeen with the Grizzlies, nineteen point two

1342
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: with the Raptors to lead both teams are scoring in

1343
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 4: the same year. I mean, yeah, seventy four in your

1344
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 4: first three games in Toronto? How was that like coming

1345
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: out there? Like, and do you tell me this because

1346
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: I know, like I don't know how many people know this,

1347
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 4: but like Toronto got some crazy ass fans and if

1348
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: you go out there like you the shit, like scoring

1349
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: them first three games seventy four, Like, how.

1350
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: Was that for you in the city?

1351
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: I know you had to be like the ship, I

1352
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: mean at that point, yeah, but the city just that's why,

1353
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: like they deserved that championship. They got they they.

1354
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: They got one of the craziest Listen, they got.

1355
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: Crazy fan This is what people don't know.

1356
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: When I worked for Detroit, bro, I had never known this.

1357
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: Anybody that knows, Like, you go to Detroit and you

1358
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: could be at that fucking downtown and you can see

1359
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: across the water that's Canada right there, like wins or whatever.

1360
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: Like I didn't really realize how really, bro, I had

1361
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: never known this. But because of that ship. It's right there,

1362
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: and a lot of people go across that bridge, Like

1363
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: you gotta go through customers and every thing to go

1364
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 4: over there. It's a big ass Seasons palace right there.

1365
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 4: You can see it across the ward crazy. The Toronto

1366
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: Raptors have home games in Detroit.

1367
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: Man, you know what, and that weekends accent they got.

1368
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: They hate me.

1369
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why they hate me, bro, it is

1370
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: though they hate me. I went back. I'm like, yo,

1371
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: you ever got traded for somewhere and the fans bully.

1372
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, they traded me. I ain't said.

1373
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: Hold on, do you remember you remember?

1374
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: Don't you remember when we went back to Portland? Oh?

1375
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? And he put me in.

1376
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: Remember he played me this? Why don't fuck with lineup?

1377
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: This?

1378
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with you?

1379
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: He played me like five games, right, which I ain't

1380
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: supposed to play. I'm the guy, one of the guys

1381
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: on the end of the bench. You know what I'm saying.

1382
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: If it was a blowout something, yeah, putting me in

1383
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: but no ear game though. Yeah, he was playing me

1384
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: and then he didn't played so he ain't played me

1385
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: in like five games.

1386
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: We get to Portland.

1387
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: I remember knowing these motherfuckers hate me.

1388
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 3: No, that was that one game where they if you played,

1389
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: they would paid No, no, no, no.

1390
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 4: It wasn't the game to do it, but it was

1391
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: adding to the number of games that he needed to

1392
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 4: get to for them to have to take over his salad.

1393
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: That was over wasn't That was over with, bro, I'm

1394
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: telling you that was over with.

1395
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing they could do.

1396
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: They signed me back for the rest of the year,

1397
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: so it didn't I was gonna play the games.

1398
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: It didn't matter. It was over with, you know, they

1399
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: it's just mad because.

1400
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: I do know this though when I was playing with him,

1401
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 3: when we went out though, you know, it was a

1402
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: little bit more Biles at the table when he started.

1403
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 7: You know, when he was like, we can chill a

1404
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 7: little bit harder. Now better we went to Portland. He

1405
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 7: was a better bet and he and he put me

1406
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 7: in the game.

1407
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: You remember how loud they that ship sounded like they

1408
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: just put the microphone and gave everybody in the stands

1409
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: of microphone and everybody was like.

1410
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: Vibrating in them watching it. Because I remember they were

1411
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: so mad. The storyline Memphis.

1412
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: Just did this. The cap up like the and it

1413
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: was put out the whole petition sign me. Yeah, they

1414
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: didn't want him to get signed, and I.

1415
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: Was like, it's crazy, yeah, but that's why I with Lino.

1416
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: Man Lino didn't play me and then all of a sudden,

1417
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: he's just gonna play me in Portland, knowing I'm finna

1418
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: get booged.

1419
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: Hey man, he just threw me in that motherfucker.

1420
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: Going from t DOT to Sacramento.

1421
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: Though, that was tough because at that point, like I said,

1422
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 3: bro like like the twenties, like that was a bad twin.

1423
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 3: I felt like I played. I figured out basketball at

1424
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: that point. You know what I'm saying. I was about

1425
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: what twenty seven, twenty eight, and I really figured out

1426
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: how I lead a team. Now nobody knew it because

1427
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: I played the Sacramento you know what I'm saying, and

1428
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: the organizations in the middle of you know, we're gonna

1429
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: go because Cousins young, he about twenty two, you know,

1430
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: wilding out doing all that stuff. He's trying to figure

1431
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: it out, you know, because.

1432
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: But you know he didn't.

1433
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: He ain't know how to be a prod at that point.

1434
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: They putting him in the forefront, and they want me

1435
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: to be you know what I'm saying. They want me to,

1436
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: you know, just beat the backup. But like he's not ready,

1437
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, You know, I know how

1438
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: to play basketball. At this point, he's learning but you know,

1439
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: the organization was going on that they're moving into that direction,

1440
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 3: and I just got caught up in that. And I

1441
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: can't say this was your bad twenty. No, this is

1442
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: my good twenty. But it was for a bad team,

1443
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So like the career best. Yeah,

1444
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: so I'm you know, don't want point one twenty one

1445
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 3: point one at that point. You know, I'm assistant, rebounding,

1446
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: doing everything, and you know, it was just one of

1447
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: those times that I caught up in the organization making

1448
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: a change. And I did that twice, like with Toronto

1449
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 3: and with Sacramento. So like they was some of my

1450
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: best years.

1451
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Bro.

1452
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 3: Like as far as like the naturation of a basketball player,

1453
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: I felt like I feel like, you know, looking really

1454
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: look look looking back, it's like I can't change it.

1455
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like I don't

1456
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: know what could have happened if I was in a

1457
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: better situation, you know what I mean exactly?

1458
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: They don't know the politics of again, Yeah, tell us

1459
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: how good Billie Cousins was.

1460
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: Man, Bruh, that dude was so talented, bro to be sixteen,

1461
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: like he say, about two sixty, about three hundred pounds

1462
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: straight up, you know what I'm saying. But sometimes I

1463
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: think his mind of where like natural talent he had it,

1464
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: God gave him, God blessed him, but his mind what

1465
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: he thought should happen and where I should get there,

1466
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: it was ahead of it. So it's like bruh, Like

1467
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: you know he a while out and all that stuff,

1468
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: like you'll get there cuz you know what I mean,

1469
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: just play the game the way it's supposed to get

1470
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: And you know, he was a very emotional player and

1471
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: you could see it out there. He was a dog.

1472
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean that's part him growing up

1473
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: as a man and also the organization who didn't take

1474
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: time enough time with him. So you know, we both

1475
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 3: had the same injury. I told my Achilles at Sacramento.

1476
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: He tore his in New Orleans. Which makes me think,

1477
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 3: like when it actually happened, was it the same for you?

1478
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of people where you feel like

1479
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: somebody threw something and hit you and then like like

1480
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: just when you're like when it's actually happened, what is

1481
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 4: like what is your thought process? Like? Because I've seen,

1482
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 4: like I had my teammate Jerome, it happened to him

1483
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: in practice Jerome James and when I was with the Knicks,

1484
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: and it was like I literally got to see what

1485
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 4: everybody expressed. He was in the middle of the lane,

1486
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: like you know how you be doing a little dummy

1487
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: shit and just going he heard like a middle of

1488
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 4: the lane cut did this and passed and tried to

1489
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 4: explode and just like went down.

1490
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: Started turning around like like we didn't know what happened.

1491
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Like, you know how

1492
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: you got Nate Robinson late.

1493
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 4: Nate was you know, Nate was the class clown of

1494
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: the team, And like literally as soon as it happened,

1495
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: they just bust out started laughing, so like big fella

1496
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: down on one and he turned around, he legit, nothing

1497
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: could talk like until we carried him into the into

1498
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: the training room and got him on the table. He

1499
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: was still to that moment like when he first went down.

1500
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 4: Nate back there laughing. He turned around, he holding him

1501
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 4: so he like he yelling at Nate like what the

1502
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 4: fuck is wrong with you? And we all looking at him, like, bro,

1503
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: what you talking about? Like Nate like I didn't you

1504
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I didn't do nothing.

1505
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: I didn't do shit.

1506
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 4: So we get him, me Malik roose More Taylor until

1507
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 4: we get him in the thing and he like, I'm

1508
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 4: gonna kill Nate when I get him.

1509
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 5: We like, big fella, Nate didn't do shit to you.

1510
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 5: He like you telling me they didn't throw it. I

1511
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: thought they threw it basketball at me. I'm like, what, bro, Like,

1512
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: they didn't throw nothing at you? Like he legit felt

1513
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 5: like they threw a ball let him and hit him. Man,

1514
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 5: he was he was dead locked until we legit talk.

1515
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Like, so, how was that for you?

1516
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: Like when you had it happen, Bro, I was. I

1517
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: remember this game like it was yesterday. I had like

1518
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: twenty five at halftime, so I was cooking. It was

1519
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: like two or three minutes left in the half before

1520
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 3: we go to halftime. I had like twenty three and

1521
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: five something like that. And it's like a move that

1522
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: I always do, Like I got swing swing. I'm in

1523
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 3: the corner. I could shoot the three, but I saw

1524
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: the lame so I tried to sweep and get the

1525
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 3: dunk real quick. It was like the loudest but the

1526
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 3: quietest sound you ever heard in your life.

1527
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: Like you hear it snap so pop.

1528
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: So I look back like, and everybody whoa like that,

1529
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: you can hear it, like you know how the crowd. Yeah,

1530
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 3: And I just hear like somebody at their bench because

1531
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: you're right in front of their bench, like, yeah, I

1532
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: heard it, that's his achilles. I'm like no, no, no, no, no,

1533
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean when somebody else telling you

1534
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: that and hear it like, yo, that's the achilles. It

1535
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: was so loud to me the person saying it, because

1536
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: it was happening to me right. I'm like, no, no, no,

1537
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 3: I can't be something on the ground like yo. And

1538
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: it was my contract yet, So it's like I'm telling

1539
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: myself no, no, no, no, no no, and I'm sitting

1540
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 3: on the ground and everybody coming come and try to

1541
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 3: help me up. So I try to walk on it,

1542
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking to myself, if it's partially torn, if

1543
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: I walk on, I don't want to alway tear it.

1544
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, just carry you back there.

1545
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting back there and you can literally put

1546
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: your finger in between my achilles MM. And they were

1547
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: like mannah, it's torn. So I just you know, I

1548
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: was down bath about I say about for two days.

1549
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: But shout out to Stelly Adrian Stelly. Actually he was

1550
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: a converse, so he's a converse now. He was the

1551
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: first person to come to my house bro and just

1552
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: talk to me all day. It didn't help for shit

1553
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: because I was still mad, but I appreciate him.

1554
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: You know what conversation with Kobe about us, how that went?

1555
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1556
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: Cold? Yeah, no cold man. It's like having a conversation

1557
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: with him. It was like, I was like so cold,

1558
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 3: like will you ever be the same? He's like, fuck no,

1559
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: you know it's a woo you know what I mean.

1560
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 3: But y'all know that kind of side of cold. Y'all

1561
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 3: know that cold, Like that's war ship wall, like a

1562
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: badge of honor, you know what I'm saying, might take

1563
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: something away, but just get better at something else like that, dude,

1564
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: make you run through a wall, you know what I'm saying.

1565
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: He was telling me all stuff he did and all

1566
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: that stuff like with the doctor saying like ship, I

1567
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: did this, I did that, like and you know that

1568
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 3: was just you know, this is right after he retired

1569
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 3: and Kobe Brown, this is right when he won his oscar.

1570
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: Mm hm. He's like, man, call me any time. Man,

1571
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: you know I ain't doing them of writing scripts and

1572
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: all that stuff. All right, bet I got Kobe, I

1573
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: can just call to go through this. So I felt

1574
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: like a lot better about me going through it and

1575
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 3: coming back from so, you know, resting peace.

1576
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: The only surgeries in my whole career, I've had two

1577
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 4: back surgery. Fire that's one to sec me right.

1578
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: That ain't nothing, man, crazy, some of the craziest that

1579
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: have to.

1580
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 4: Be like like literally, like so the first time I

1581
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: had it, I had I got it during my contract year.

1582
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 4: This is my fourth year, my best This is probably

1583
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: my best season in my whole career, like statistically points

1584
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: averaging fourth year, going crazy, busting ass and do in LA.

1585
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: And then whenever I did it, it wasn't like something

1586
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: like well you do it during the game. You're like,

1587
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 4: oh shit, like it didn't happen like that. I had

1588
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 4: some shit like now my back kind of feeling like whatever,

1589
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 4: let's go get it checked out. Then it's like you

1590
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 4: gotta hearn yourd this and it's like what and like

1591
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 4: you said, it's your contract. All I can remember is

1592
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: just like why the fuck I can't rewind this part

1593
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 4: and not do whatever I Like you said, you had

1594
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 4: a land you could have shot three you wanted to go,

1595
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 4: Like you can remember exactly that moment, like why did

1596
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: I choose.

1597
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: To do the other thing?

1598
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go through it all time, Like I just

1599
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: I tell you the whole play and what happened happened

1600
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: after because it just is what it is, Bro. I

1601
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: mean at this point, like like Nipsey said, man, recipeace,

1602
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: He said, everything you don't have you wasn't supposed to, right, Yeah,

1603
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: So at that point it was like man, I had

1604
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 3: at some point like man, what am I gonna do

1605
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: with my said crowd just you know, try to fight

1606
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: through it. So I try to make it, you know,

1607
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: make something out of it, you know what I mean,

1608
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: try to do the best I can. And whoever came

1609
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 3: up to me. I've talked KD about. I've talked to

1610
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 3: a lot of people after they've had that injury afterwards

1611
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: just saying the same thing and also relating with Cooke

1612
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: told me, so, you know, just paying it forward, that's

1613
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: what makes me feel better now. But at that time, Bro,

1614
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 3: I was going through it. You know what I mean,

1615
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 3: I should have just shot the three, or I should

1616
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: have I shouldn't even played because I just came back

1617
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: from an injury. So it's like even with stuff outside

1618
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: of basketball, you know, might be situations with your girl

1619
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: or anything, thinking.

1620
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 4: About everything, your hands down and all type of thoughts

1621
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 4: into your mind.

1622
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I shouldn't have went out. I shouldn't have did this, man,

1623
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: I should have I shouldn't have skipped that massage session

1624
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 3: I had or whatever. Bro you think you think about everything.

1625
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: How was it like signing with the Spurs and getting

1626
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: there because like they.

1627
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 4: Known as one of the top organizations to do everything

1628
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: the right way. How was it going from you know,

1629
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 4: being after being Memphis, Toronto, Sacramento. How was it landing

1630
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 4: in San Antonio with Pop and you know RC and

1631
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 4: the whole organization and knowing how they handled things and

1632
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: how they do things.

1633
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: Did it Did it fit the bill and everything you

1634
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: had heard about?

1635
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: Uh?

1636
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, My attention was going. My attention was to go there.

1637
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: You know, they how they play and how they rest players.

1638
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: Me coming off of achilles, being able to get back

1639
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 3: to myself, that was the whole old intention on being there.

1640
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: When I got there, Pop had a vision for me.

1641
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: It was like, Nah, you're gonna be right here on

1642
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: this bench. I don't care what you did before you

1643
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 3: yeah you if you yeah this, we don't need that

1644
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 3: from you. We don't need that, and that's not what

1645
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: my intention was obviously. So I think we battled with that,

1646
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: you know, for a little while. But Pop is Pop,

1647
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, he successfully and you know, not to take

1648
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: anything away from the guys because they you know, Tony,

1649
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 3: Tim and Minu me playing with Minu Manu wanted to

1650
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 3: and we all know they one of the most competitive

1651
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: people you ever play against. Bruh and being in the

1652
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 3: gym with him, in the locker room with him taught

1653
01:12:59,680 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: me a lot.

1654
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: Tony surprised to see Lamar again, play with Lamar again,

1655
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: think you would play with him?

1656
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: Brother? A funny thing, bro, he was. I remember it

1657
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: was like midnight he called me in the middle of

1658
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: nights like man, and it was the same situation because

1659
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: I've already been through it. He was the first time

1660
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: getting traded.

1661
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1662
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: The motherfuckers traded me.

1663
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1664
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 3: I was like, for real, who he said, Kawhi? I said,

1665
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: oh you coming here? I just bust out laughing. Ain't funny?

1666
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 6: Man?

1667
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: I said, Bro, no, bro, because I was happy to

1668
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: have my guy with me.

1669
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1670
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: But you know, I think the way we played, both

1671
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: of us and how we've been most of our careers.

1672
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 3: I think being in San Antonio was a was an

1673
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: adjustment for both of us. So you know it wasn't

1674
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't that as easy as for some other players.

1675
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: This is a two part question. I got.

1676
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: You gotta have two teams for me. You're McDonald's game

1677
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: and your NBA career. So over your NBA career, if

1678
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: you had to pick four other players, and they uh,

1679
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: out of all the teammates you ever played with to

1680
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: make an ultimate five with.

1681
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: You, they all in their prime, though, it don't matter

1682
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 4: when you played with him, like you could have played

1683
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: with him in year fifteen.

1684
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: They you you get to choose to them.

1685
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: I say, I say, God, damn, I say, I had

1686
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 3: to go with k Loo Kloklo and Mike Damn. Uh

1687
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: played with Rondo for a year. Oh that's nice. Ship

1688
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 3: in sragramento Uh, Tony Parker, I played So who You're who?

1689
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: You're damn brus see this? Yeah, I just say, because

1690
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: I grew up with cars, because he's Kyle Lowry. Don't

1691
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 3: get it, don't get it, fucked up, Kyle Okay, ship

1692
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: Damar Damar the two myself at the three, four five,

1693
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 3: I go z bo z Damn. The market is out

1694
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 3: there to any o. The mark is a cause I

1695
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: played with Pile too.

1696
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: That's right, you played with uh.

1697
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: Play with So you got Kyle Damarrow You at the three,

1698
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: Zebo at the.

1699
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: Four, I got, I got Marcas, I got Pole, So

1700
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: you got cause I got Mark, You.

1701
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 6: Got Kawhi played for two games. Man he was Outawhi

1702
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 6: other things on his mind. Four five, z Bo stamping

1703
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 6: at four I got you know what, I learned so

1704
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 6: much from power. I gotta say, Man, okay, that's a nice.

1705
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, that you had one

1706
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: of the best McDonald's class, plus you if you had

1707
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: to pick four other players from that McDonald's class to

1708
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,919
Speaker 1: make an all in five.

1709
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 3: I get the make up and my ship, so ron

1710
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 3: the one, I go, damn j smill switch, I'll go myself, LaMarcus,

1711
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 3: LaMarcus and Al Jefferson. Oh mah Dwhite, Oh my god,

1712
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: I gotta hand pump fingers. But the but Al Jefferson, boy, yeah.

1713
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: Jeff what let me ask you this?

1714
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 4: Because you kind of slid up out of there, I

1715
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 4: guess I would say, how we did you know what

1716
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying. After you know what I'm saying, how was

1717
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 4: it for you at the end, Because like I was

1718
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 4: sitting there waiting trying to get on another team, think

1719
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a call or whatever, and then stan

1720
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 4: Van Gundy called me to be a director of player

1721
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: development before I had anything to.

1722
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: Do with.

1723
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 4: I still thought, look, I so still thought it was

1724
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: some more hoop left. But that was like the bat signal,

1725
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 4: like bitch just over, you better go ahead and slap.

1726
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 4: Like how what how did that go for you? Like

1727
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You You ultimately announced your

1728
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 4: retirement with the Players Tribune, but like, how did the

1729
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: end for you? Was just like opportunities and you was

1730
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 4: like man, I'm just going ahead, or it was just

1731
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 4: like no more calls.

1732
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean I had calls, not not the ones

1733
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 3: I wanted. But it's like I didn't realize how much

1734
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: basketball and the life I was living affected my outside

1735
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 3: of my life, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

1736
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 3: when I got down to I asked my son he

1737
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: loved that he loved basketball. I said, would you what

1738
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: if I didn't play in the NBA anymore? Because you know,

1739
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 3: I think we think like when we're playing, that's our superpower, right.

1740
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 3: Kids their friends love it. The fact that their fathers

1741
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: the NBA player. You know what I'm saying. We get

1742
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: to do, they get to go to games and all that.

1743
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: My son said, I love it, And that put things

1744
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: into perspectives like, Bro, I missed so much time with

1745
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 3: my son and my kids. It's like, do I really

1746
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 3: need to play another season or play with a team

1747
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 3: and then might have to go somewhere else to be

1748
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: a part of a trade. And and that you know that,

1749
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: that's that, you know that that ship had sealed. So

1750
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: at that point it was just I put my time

1751
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: in my family. And you don't realize how much you

1752
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 3: need to learn more about your family because you ain't

1753
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: gotten this so much time, you missed so much time.

1754
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: You know, start bench trade. You got to start one.

1755
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: You gotta bench one. You got trade one. Paul pirice

1756
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: t mac cormelo, start bench bro.

1757
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: All right, you know what I say, start mellow. No,

1758
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: I'll start teammate mm hmm, just because't no reason I start.

1759
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: I started team mak, I benchmellow, I trade.

1760
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Pp tell me now you're in the in the podcast game.

1761
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: Seven pm.

1762
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: And Brook.

1763
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, one of your mellow show

1764
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: tell us the process of of you being the co

1765
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: host on the show, and then what made you want

1766
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: to be in the space, and.

1767
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: Is you're kicking it happen? Man?

1768
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I see, I see why y'all love

1769
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 3: doing this. Man, be honest with you, it was I

1770
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: was on the show at first, and I just got

1771
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 3: a call right after I retired, and I was like, man,

1772
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: what you're doing?

1773
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: Man?

1774
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: You need something to do? I was like, hell, yeah,

1775
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: so no what shout them? Because know what, Bro, you

1776
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: know how it is when you're first done, like to

1777
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 3: to just have something to do, to get up and

1778
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 3: have because we used to having a routine. You know

1779
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, whether whether it's get up work, I'll

1780
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 3: go to practice, go shoot, you know, at a certain time,

1781
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: sleep at a certain time. Everything, you know what I'm saying.

1782
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 3: Now to day, yeah, all that is on schedule. But

1783
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 3: the thing about it is when you're done, it's like, bro,

1784
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 3: you got all days like like at one point I

1785
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 3: would just be up until five just watching TV. Like bro,

1786
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: like I had to check myself, Like, Bro, I'm a

1787
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: bum right now, let me get up and work out

1788
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: or something. You know what I mean, So something, do something.

1789
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm starting to look different in the mirror. I'm like, Bro,

1790
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: I ain't get on the schedule, you know what I'm saying.

1791
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: So he called me right right on time. Bro had

1792
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: to be God because at that point I was like, man,

1793
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 3: I need something to do, and he called me up.

1794
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: Shout out mellow and you ain't even know it. You

1795
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: know you just did that. Make sure y'all check that out.

1796
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 4: They tell me this, man, because like I spoke on earlier,

1797
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 4: you and you and Jay Green got some of the

1798
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 4: crazy done. Tell me what's one of your some of

1799
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 4: your favorite kaboom on peoples because like you know.

1800
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. I say, you didn't have a whole

1801
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: lot of whole lot of them one hand long gas

1802
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: over here kabooms. Like, tell me who some of your

1803
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: favorite ones is that you didn't put on them posts.

1804
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 3: I say it's one against Utah Jazz I had on

1805
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 3: Andre Carolinko. It was it was. It was mainly him

1806
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 3: because you know he was coming off to being a

1807
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: defensive player and you know they were super physical, like there,

1808
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 3: you know I was skinny. They'll bump you and all

1809
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: that stuff and the rest. They wouldn't call nothing when

1810
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: it came up. What's the other big strong white dude

1811
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 3: with the Georgia tech was on their team? Matt Harp,

1812
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: Matt Hart, listen like for real, it was time.

1813
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: Listen.

1814
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, he was somebody I was gonna suck up

1815
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 4: like basketball like, bitch ass boy, do that ship again.

1816
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: I fucked you up. He was. And he was a football.

1817
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: He was a coicking he would no, That's what I'm saying.

1818
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: You listen, you got pull the paperworker like, boy, I

1819
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 4: will fuck you around.

1820
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: Stopped playing with.

1821
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 6: It, you know.

1822
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: And I was young, skinny, and they was like, man,

1823
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 3: let me let me go on. You know what I'm saying.

1824
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 3: Like he was gonna run through the lane like that.

1825
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: I came him on a fast break. He tried to block.

1826
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was bad. It was bad.

1827
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: Don't look at the clip of that a week ass mohawk.

1828
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 3: But and the other one was on a scholar and

1829
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 3: the Kimba rest in peace, yes, both of them at once.

1830
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1831
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 4: Man, Listen, we appreciate the man coming through pulling up

1832
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: bones out here. It all start weekend man, we got

1833
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 4: Rudy Gay in the building. Man, appreciate you man whenever

1834
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 4: Mellow and you need us to.

1835
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: Come on up? Man, we got that man. You know,

1836
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: mellow O guy, you our guys. It is nothing Mellow

1837
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: for five.

1838
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 4: Put him on your right because you he his partner,

1839
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 4: he our partners in them and all these people just

1840
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 4: in here know this.

1841
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 2: It's a travesty that he'd been on our show.

1842
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna take your truth.

1843
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 4: Like when we first said we was gonna do this ship,

1844
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 4: he was a no brainer our history of him.

1845
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, ship please, Melo, gonna be working. Mellow, you

1846
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 2: ain't right?

1847
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 3: How I get on it before you man.

1848
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: Tell he ain't right.

1849
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling I'm gonna be right here next to him

1850
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: calling ma all's bullshit, just like al Wes do.

1851
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 4: Man, we got we got Rudy in here before we

1852
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 4: got Mellow. You know what I'm saying, Mellow, our man's

1853
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: in there.

1854
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: Like we go way. I think I might have gave

1855
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: Mellow his first pair of p e jas.

1856
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 4: I remember the true story. That's how deep, you know

1857
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like I drew with mel Love, we

1858
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 4: always drop. We still solid, but like bring your ass

1859
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 4: on the show. But yeah, man, Rudy Gay in the building,

1860
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 4: man box more finance man, you feel me slash Brooklyn

1861
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: he was born in Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying.

1862
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 4: I ain't know that that was a little gym.

1863
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jason Beverly Hills to watch I broke

1864
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: the heads back in the day.

1865
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: Doing all the championship rings and ship.

1866
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,479
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1867
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,120
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1868
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,840
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1869
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,960
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1870
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,800
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1871
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1872
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1873
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1874
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