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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Friday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We'll be waiting a little bit longer than

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Speaker 2: we usually do to get to the Bills game since

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Speaker 2: it is on Monday night obviously against the Jets at

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Speaker 2: Medlife Stadium, and the Friday injury report has just been released.

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Speaker 2: This is a Monday night game, so this is not

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Speaker 2: the final game status day for the injury report that

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Speaker 2: will tomorrow, but once again third straight day not practicing.

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Speaker 2: James Cook ed Oliver Khalil Shakir with tow hamstring and

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Speaker 2: ankle injuries, respectively. We'll see if it changes on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: but it is not trending in the right direction for

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Speaker 2: any of those three players. Arguably one of your three

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Speaker 2: best defensive players and two of your three best offensive players.

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Speaker 2: Not a game that you want to go into shorthanded,

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Speaker 2: especially coming off a two game losing streak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and both these clubs are coming off two game

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Speaker 1: losing streaks, the Jets and the Bills, and both need

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Speaker 1: a win. It's too early in the season to say

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Speaker 1: it's must win for either of them, although in New York,

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Speaker 1: Jet fans are kind of leaning that way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you make a head coaching change, you make an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator change, you get things straightened out against a team

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Speaker 1: who's leading the division at the current moment. You win,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting in the catbird seat at the top of

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Speaker 1: the division. This is a big win. This is a

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Speaker 1: big early season game, no question about it. It's not

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Speaker 1: it would be certainly be nice for both these squads

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Both these clubs. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a big win for a big game.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, it obviously would put distance between

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Speaker 2: the Bills and the rest of the division. If they

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Speaker 2: can win, they'd be two games up on the Jets.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to see what Miami does because they're also

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Speaker 2: two and three. They win, they go three and three,

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Speaker 2: and you know, then they're only a game back, although

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Speaker 2: the head to head tiebreaker. The Bills do over the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins having beaten them in Week two. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a week to put some distance between you and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the division. The Jets obviously directly since

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Speaker 2: you're playing them, and I'm telling you, I'm having a

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Speaker 2: tough time getting a handle on how this game is

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Speaker 2: going to shake out at the beginning. It's it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's safe to say that the Jets, at least

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Speaker 2: at the outset of this game, are going to play

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Speaker 2: with a greater sense of urgency because everyone has been

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Speaker 2: put on notice this week with the firing of the

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if you are not the kind of

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Speaker 2: player that is internally motivated each and every week to

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Speaker 2: lay it on the line and play professional football, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna do a little more this week, you know. I

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Speaker 2: mean every team has them, right, the guys that don't

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Speaker 2: work quite as hard as everybody else. Those guys are

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Speaker 2: working this week in the Jets' locker room because of

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Speaker 2: what has transpired there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and certainly the best players are correct with the

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Speaker 1: are set in the pace. The great ones, who you

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Speaker 1: are showing up this week in preparation. And that's and

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Speaker 1: I've said it a lot, and I still believe that

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Speaker 1: these games are won. In this case, they're won Monday

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Speaker 1: through Sunday for a Monday night game. They're one in

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Speaker 1: the preparation leading up to the game, and the more

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Speaker 1: prepared you are, the higher your morale is. The better

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Speaker 1: you finish. This is so, it's and in a Jets

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Speaker 1: facility where the owner has said the winning starts. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Because look, if he's willing to fire the head coach

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Speaker 1: Me just put my insert myself. You think your special

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the storm that the Bills are going

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Speaker 2: that stuff. This is and perform you know in your

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Speaker 1: Hostile doesn't do it justice. It is. Yeah, Now, there's

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Speaker 2: Monday night, it's gonna be bananas.

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Speaker 1: But now are the Mets Yankees playing simultaneously or they're like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because and then the you know, the kickoff

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the Mets time is because I

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Speaker 2: really don't care about the Mets. Sorry, it's just me.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with being a Mets fan. I just not

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a shame that the Yankee series doesn't

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Speaker 2: league championship series. That's pretty wild. We have to get

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Speaker 2: We gave you the injury report, and we should note

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Speaker 1: Now, the Bills don't hesit. They have always been. They

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Bills, if they're out, you can bet

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Speaker 1: we'll find out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But those are your Bills. Practice updates presented by LEECOM

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Speaker 2: your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. I'm encouraged that

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Speaker 2: restore the second level of your defense to what it

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Speaker 1: Taylor rep has a chance.

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Speaker 2: This week's game at the Jets incidentally presented by the

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Speaker 2: and we should since you already kind of gave a

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Speaker 2: teaser there, we're going to go around the NFL, which

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Speaker 2: is presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Thursday Night football, Brock Perdy threw three

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Speaker 2: touchdown passes as the forty nine ers outlast at the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks thirty six to twenty four Seattle Stage. To come back,

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Speaker 2: they scored fourteen straight points cut San Francisco's lead to six,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Niners looked a little bit more like the

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Speaker 1: They've stumbled, there's a there's a shoulder injury. You mentioned.

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Speaker 2: As Steve told you, Giants rookie Molik Neighbors is going

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Speaker 2: in concussion protocol. Now apparently, Steve, while in concussion protocol,

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Speaker 2: he attended a Travis Scott concert this week. Let's just

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable, because when Dable was asked about it by

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Speaker 2: This guy's going to a Travis Scott concert. Do you

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Speaker 2: know how many lights are flashing and blinking there? Yeah? Like,

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Speaker 2: come on, dude, like what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Times sometimes you realize you're you're dealing with twenty one

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Speaker 1: year old's twenty two year old. Nothing against them, but they.

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Speaker 1: Dude, they got some stuff going on. You know, twenty

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Speaker 1: and twenty one year olds they do things their own

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Speaker 2: This is the guy like I'm twenty one on bulletproof.

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Speaker 1: That and think about it's probably the first time he's

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Speaker 2: As you know, Fridays mean, the obl fan Friday Mailbag

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Speaker 2: Those are the numbers to jump on board with us,

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Speaker 2: and we do have open lines for you right now.

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Speaker 2: We should tell you that in about ten twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be join in studio by the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Great co Sell, we'll diice up the x's and o's

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Speaker 2: So any questions you have on the Bills the league

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight, five point fifty two, five fifty Steve.

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Speaker 1: Why are you saying it like that.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen yet. That's never happened before. Why

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Speaker 1: I was born of them, hard pressed to have them

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Speaker 1: I was waxing my surfboard up. I was surfing that wave. Baby,

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Speaker 1: let's go, you know, mm hmm, yeah, no, I'm on

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Speaker 2: Uh. Well, we wait for a couple of phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Twitter side of things, this question comes from Pocket Pressure,

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Speaker 2: who asks I haven't seen or heard this, but as

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Speaker 1: I mean we've it's always gets asked in ad nauseum

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Speaker 2: can you tell us? And I would say, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: we kind of like to do this on third and medium,

435
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Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, yeah, we saw that on film,

436
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: and you know so and so kind of likes to

437
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: run the dig route like this. Well yeah, we saw

438
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: that on film. So everything that he had to offer,

439
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: they kind of already knew because between the coaches reviewing

440
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: the film and your advanced scouts advancing the team, you

441
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: kind of have all of that information already.

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00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: You got a lot of people watching every detail that

443
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: they can and noticing stuff and writing it down and

444
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: then looking forward on film, coaching it up, scheming it up.

445
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all these guys do.

446
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: I mean the coaches, I mean the advance then an advance.

447
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: The Bill's had an advance scout in London last week

448
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: watching the Jets playing.

449
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: So so yeah, but that doesn't mean and having said that,

450
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Speaker 1: you would think there's a there's a level of it

451
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Speaker 1: because they do go into detail that they would hey say, Steph,

452
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Speaker 1: what do you think you know? And he'll say, and

453
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Speaker 1: he'll he'll say something like, you know, yeah, Josh has

454
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: cheeseburger before every game kind of thing. Right, that's about

455
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Speaker 1: as That's about as deep as it goes.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's I don't know what that You don't know if

458
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: that's true. That's not true. I just made that up,

459
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Speaker 1: but so random, you know what I mean, it'd be

460
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Speaker 1: that level of insight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Connor asks what does Buffalo need to do to get

464
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Speaker 2: back on track? Continuing to see the offense struggle as

465
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Speaker 2: frustrating because we have all seen them be great. I

466
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: understand injuries are running rampant, but the last two weeks

467
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Speaker 2: the offense has been back to the heavy lift. Look, yeah,

468
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Speaker 2: you're right about that, Connor. It has looked like a

469
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Speaker 2: heavy lift. I just had a chance to talk to

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady this morning for our pregame radio interview on

471
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Speaker 2: the Bills Radio Network that will air about an hour

472
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Speaker 2: before the game on Monday night, and the number one

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Speaker 2: thing he had was communication in terms of the focus

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Speaker 2: this week in practice. Now, I'm sure there were other

475
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: things that he didn't want to divulge, you know, scheme wise,

476
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: that they worked on as well, but he did give

477
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Speaker 2: us communication. And you know, when you think about Kean

478
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: Coleman getting hit in the head with a football because

479
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: he's not looking for it or no, he's hot or whatever,

480
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: or you know, a miss blocking assignment on a blitz,

481
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: that's that points to communication, and he felt it had

482
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Speaker 2: to get rectified this week and had it listed as

483
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Speaker 2: a top priority. They had some missed assignments because communication

484
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: was not air tight through the course of that game,

485
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Speaker 2: and that's got to get fixed in a hurry because

486
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Speaker 2: you're going right back into another environment where it will

487
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Speaker 2: be difficult to communicate and you're going to have to

488
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: do it anyway. So I would say that's probably at

489
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: the top of the list, and then it becomes then

490
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: it comes down to individual accountability from there, alignment, assignment

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: execution and all of those things. I would like to

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00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: see a little bit more pre snap motion, which I

493
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: think works very well in helping to get these receivers

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Speaker 2: separation early in their routes. There are other things you

495
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: can do too. You can stack receivers at the line,

496
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, late motion, put a receiver in the backfield.

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00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: They already have separation because the defender can't press them

498
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: at the line because they're not at the line. So

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Speaker 2: there are a number of things a coach can do

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Speaker 2: to help facilitate separation for their receiving corps as well.

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Speaker 1: And as you when you start talking about this and

502
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: start pulling all this apart, I mean, we're watching some

503
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: analytics on film today. I was showing him what some

504
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: guys were breaking down the passing game and how to

505
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: run choice route and how to run it and why

506
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: you run it this way. It is so multi layered.

507
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: You get a real insight as to why it's difficult

508
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: to play this game at this level. You got to

509
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: have your light. Your light's got to be on. You

510
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: got to know what's going on. This is not just

511
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: you run and go out there, run here and wait

512
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: for the ball. There's none of that going on here.

513
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: And when it's not right, it shows, and it makes

514
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: your offense look like something You can't figure out what's

515
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: not right because it's hard to see. But it's all

516
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: about communication and everybody being prepared. Certainly, if you can't

517
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: hear what the quarterbacks saying in the middle of a cadence,

518
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: if he's making checks, you may as well just sit down.

519
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: So it's there's a lot of layers to this, and

520
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this, and there's some more of these

521
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: tweets coming up. But you look at all the things

522
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: that happen and go wrong in a game. In this

523
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Houston game is just one example. Sometimes they did get separation,

524
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: Josh throw it somewhere else. Sometimes protection broke down, Josh

525
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: got hit while through it. Another time they couldn't get separations,

526
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Josh had to hold on to it and scramble out

527
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and led to disaster. It's one thing after another. It's

528
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: never one it's never just one thing all the time.

529
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: And you've got to that's why everybody's on Gotta step

530
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: it up. You gotta step it up. And it starts

531
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: what Brownie started this conversation with. You all gotta know

532
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: what's what the play is and when the ball snapped,

533
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: you gotta be on the same page with what you

534
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: see the defense doing. It's not easy, as we saw

535
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: yet last week, it's not easy for anybody.

536
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Ye gotta take a break here when we returned the

537
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, Thurman Thomas joins us here in studio.

538
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that. It's coming your way next here

539
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colide health. It's Buffalo

540
00:29:46,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right back here on one Bills Live

541
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Friday Edition and joining us in

542
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: studio the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas. Welcome, Thurman.

543
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Hello, how's it going. It's going good.

544
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: You guys had a bang up weekend last weekend with

545
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Marv there in Chicago. You want to give us your

546
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: take on it. Not that the game was fun to

547
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: watch at the end.

548
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: I could have watched the rest of the regular season

549
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 5: in Chicago.

550
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: We had a great time.

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00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: We had a great time.

552
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

553
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was awesome. So I don't know, maybe we'll

554
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: do it. I mean, I I like Chicago. It was

555
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: it was nice. It's kind of the first time I

556
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: kind of hung out down there and got to see.

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00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, imagine me sitting next to

558
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Darryl Tally and Thurman Thomas when the Bills didn't throw,

559
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: didn't run the football and those last time plays inside

560
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that did you have earplugs? Oh my gosh.

561
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you hear what Marv said? Yeah? Marve was like,

562
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: run it three times, play for.

563
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Overtime, three timeouts, right, yeah?

564
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean we're hey, you know what I mean.

565
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: At that point, I think as Buffalo Bills fans and

566
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: probably Sean McDermott and those guys are probably thinking he's

567
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 5: been off, but he can click at any time, Josh, Josh.

568
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: But the odds of that happening, if you watch the

570
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: entire game, I think you like, no, it's not going

571
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: to happen.

572
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: We have to move and they didn't have a back

573
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: in the backfield on any of those three plays.

574
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I can help. I get the first plague.

575
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Let's see when you get a drive starter, because you

576
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: know we do have it, we get it started. He's

577
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: on now, but he's got to happen on one. You

578
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: gotta give him one chance. Once that goes incomplete on

579
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: the sideline, it's like, all right, that's it. Then we're

580
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna run it. We're gonna try and grind out a

581
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: first down with these last two the second and third down.

582
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, fun of the way. Yeah, but you're still leaving

583
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: them with what two timeouts? Two times? Two timeouts?

584
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to because you'd run the tall time out,

585
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: you'd run it again, they call timeouts, so you'd leave

586
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: them one time out.

587
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: It's still oh so you're saying, even with the pass play,

588
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 5: first down passage, still with one.

589
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Time, I'm running it. They ain't got no more timeouts when.

590
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: They get him sixty seconds less of.

591
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: Time, Yeah, I'm running it. Sorry.

592
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: And you know what, And up until that point, I

593
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: mean the first quarter, I thought I was like, I

594
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, James Cook is going ready

595
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: to get a career. Have thirty carries. That's what I

596
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: was looking at. And and even at that point, there's

597
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 5: one drive where they I mean, he just gushed him

598
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: for about you know, twenty yards and thirty yards and

599
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: like three plays or whatever.

600
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Early in the early in the game, we were gashing

601
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: him with the run game. It was seven yards of

602
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: first down. And I and Brownie's been saying it all

603
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: week that they've gotten They've run the ball twenty out

604
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: of twenty six first downs, and one of the reasons

605
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: they keep doing is because James Cook is getting getting

606
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: yards plus yards rush. And that's I'm like for me,

607
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, go ahead.

608
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: So let's so let's spin that forward to this week's game. Them.

609
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: You know that the Jets are aware that the Bills

610
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: have run it twenty in the last twenty six times

611
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: on first and ten with some measure of success. Can

612
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: the Bills use that tendency to their advantage and maybe

613
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: work a little first down play action? You know this

614
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Jets defense comes Downhilled.

615
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.

616
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: They they're they're aggressive, but at this point, you got

617
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: Sauce Gardener on one side, and I don't even know

618
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 5: the other cornerback, DJ.

619
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Reed, DJ Reed, who's who's really good? Really good?

620
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: I'm thinking they're probably gonna go man and man and

621
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 5: a couple of those guys and put eight men in

622
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: the box. So it's going to force you to throw

623
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: the football. Okay, yeah, I think that can do.

624
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean they can. Gardner can pretty much take away

625
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: half the field anyway.

626
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: One of the things Gardner is that and you've seen it.

627
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: They're those two guys DJ and Sauce. They're gonna grab

628
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: and hold you and just dare the officials to continue

629
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: to call penalty. They got penalty last week. They didn't care.

630
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: He had two DPIs. Sauce had a DPI a defensive

631
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: holding in an illegal contact because they were just mugging

632
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Jordan Jefferson and Jordan Addison.

633
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 5: And you know what, the league jeff the league might

634
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: be into a situation where, you know, just let them play.

635
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: They just get tired of inserting themselves into the game.

636
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: It's like they're human beings and they stopped doing their jobs.

637
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: Like the one against the Jets and the Vikings.

638
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: I mean, Stefan Diggs held the wide receiver for at

639
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: least seven yards when a Ruders threw him the interception.

640
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: He held them for like seven yards.

641
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 5: So they're letting these guys play because, like you said,

642
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 5: I think they're sick and tired of Oh there's a

643
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: ticky tacky or whatever.

644
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was nothing tick a tack about those

645
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: what those guys were doing, because they're just clutching and grabbing.

646
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean it looks like, you know, early two thousands

647
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: NHL hockey, Like they're just hanging all over these guys.

648
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: And fortunately Justin Jefferson is smart enough to kind of

649
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: embellish a little bit, like, oh, I've been I've been

650
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: spun around. You know, the ball's not here, and he's

651
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: gonna draw flag's gonna draw flags. I don't know, I

652
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: don't know, it's gonna be, it's gonna be.

653
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: What what do you make of the coaching change in

654
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: New York and the offensive coordinator change. What's it mean?

655
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: Wow? Nothing, really, I don't think it means anything.

656
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: I think Aaron Rodgers is not the quarterback we everybody

657
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 5: thought that he was gonna come back and be amazing

658
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: after this Achilles. I don't think it's there. The offensive

659
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 5: line is not good. If the Bills get pressured like

660
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 5: they got pressure like I guess Baltimore or something, Aaron

661
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 5: Rodgers won't I don't think he'll be back.

662
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: He can't. No, he can't do it.

663
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 5: And that's so now he's a drop back passer. He's

664
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 5: not a scrambler like Tom Brady was that. But he

665
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: had a great offensive line.

666
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, now take it.

667
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: Green Bay did have some nice offensive line for Aaron

668
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: Rodgers and they had a running game. But they don't

669
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: have any of that at New York. So even after

670
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 5: a coach being fired, yeah, everybody's.

671
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: Gonna be fired up.

672
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 5: It's Monday night, Yeah it's but I just don't think

673
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: he has it anymore.

674
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so you mentioned run game. How do you explain that.

675
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Briest Hall and Braylan Allen, two

676
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: talented backs, you know, with versatile skill sets. And yet

677
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: the Jets are last in the league in rushing eighty

678
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: yards a game. Is that a line issue? Also? As

679
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: you see like how I think, how are they that

680
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: bad with talent that good in the backfield.

681
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: I think it's a line issue and it's a quarterback issue.

682
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: I just cannot leave Aaron Rodgers out. I think it's both.

683
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: But I really do think it's a line issue.

684
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 5: I mean, they haven't been able to protect them, they

685
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: haven't been able to run the football. So yeah, I

686
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 5: think it's definitely a line or definitely a line issue.

687
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been that Morgan Moses the last

688
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 2: two weeks. They've started the rookie Lufashanu who hasn't done

689
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: terrible and Tyron Smith is older than dirt and the

690
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: other side.

691
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: In their first games were who I can't remember.

692
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Who their first games were, Yeah, that right there was.

693
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 5: Oh boys, they've been Yeah, I think they've been going

694
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: to get some pretty Tennessee.

695
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: They beat Tennessee in New England, wins against they lost against,

696
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: they lost against Denver, and they got beat by Minnesota.

697
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Denver's got a good defense.

698
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Well it was nine to ten.

699
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, they didn't say they had a good offense.

700
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I said, was they had a good defense.

701
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: I think we have a good defense.

702
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have a good defense.

703
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 5: And we and if we come off the football, I

704
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 5: mean just man pressure in him, Yeah, pressure in him.

705
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 5: And look, look made a heck of a difference coming

706
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: in right.

707
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: So let's let's look at that a little bit because

709
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: it appears as though it's trending that Terren Johnson is

710
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: going to come back this week. So now you've got

711
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: the second level of your defense back to what it

712
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: was in Week one. You know, Bernard Williams and tern

713
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: How big a difference does that make? Do you think?

714
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: I think it makes a huge difference.

715
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 5: Means, if you can't wait, you throw. Look, we've whatever,

716
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: we've been able to get to three and two. We're

717
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: still first place in our division with most of our

718
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 5: key guys injured, and we're getting those guys back. You know,

719
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: I think it's a wave in the NFL. Well, this

720
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: is what happened to every single team. I mean last

721
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 5: year with Baltimore was Mark Andrews the tight end, but

722
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: Lindsey lightly he picked us. Yeah, so I think it's

723
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 5: a trend with all these teams early on or some

724
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: might be later in the year.

725
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want that to happen. I guarantee

726
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: you that, you know.

727
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: So I think with these guys getting healthier and you know,

728
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 5: at the right time, you know, we're not one in four,

729
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 5: it'll be different, you know.

730
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: And the Bengals are one and four and they're all injured.

731
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all on defense and that and that trend

732
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 5: probably will continue them with them for the rest of

733
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: the season because I think in the last couple of

734
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: years they've been like one in three but made a run.

735
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: I don't think they don't have the horses to.

736
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: Make They don't have the horses to do it right.

737
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard. I mean Cincinnati can't stop anybody.

738
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: They gotta. I mean, Burrow through five touchdowns last week

739
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: and they.

740
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Lost, and they lost.

741
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: I mean it's not good.

742
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: That's not good.

743
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, not good for since.

744
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 3: Three or four of them. So, yeah, it's not good.

745
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: It's give me, give me an idea this You go

746
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: into this game and this is gonna be a hostile environment.

747
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: The fans are going to be the owner says it.

748
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Winning starts now, interim head coach. I mean to me,

749
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: I've been telling them that the Jets have to win

750
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: this game pretty much, don't you think, I think, yeah.

751
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Well the repercussions if they don't, I mean, it doesn't

752
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: put them out of the division race per se. Even

753
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: though they would fall to two and four, it still

754
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: got eleven games left. Like a lot can happen. But

755
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: the fans got the change they want, hackets out his

756
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: play caller, Woody Johnson got what he.

757
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: Wanted there ahead.

758
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson got what he wanted. He acted as head coach,

759
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: which apparently you wanted to do at the end of

760
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: last year. And Jets fans are like, here we go.

761
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: We got what we wanted.

762
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Let's go new day. And if they lose the game,

763
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: they're just gonna be like, ah, just end the season,

764
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: you know, because where are you then? I mean, you

765
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: made all the changes you want and it still didn't change,

766
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, the weekly outcomes.

767
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, the false narratives are going around.

768
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 5: It's had something to do with Aaron Rodgers. Now they're

769
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: calling him a coach killer. You know, Mike McCarty.

770
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy inspired when he was up there.

771
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a lot going on.

772
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 5: And like you said, you know, if we go out there,

773
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: we play really well and win this football game, you

774
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 5: know what, all the pressure.

775
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: Is on them. Now, it's not on us. It's not

776
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: on us.

777
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: I mean it's pressure on us to win because I

778
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: don't want to lose three in a row, right, you know,

779
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: so I think there's more pressure on them, less pressure

780
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: on us. And man, just man, it's Monday night. I

781
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 5: know a lot of these guys haven't played on Monday night.

782
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: Man, it's one of the.

783
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: Best opportunities for a player to showcase what they can do.

784
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: And I know people around here, we've been talking about

785
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: the mac Hollins. We've been talking about you know, Dawson

786
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 5: Knox and all those guys. You know, and I'm sure

787
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: those guys here maybe they don't hear it, but you know,

788
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 5: it's an opportunity to let everybody.

789
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: Know I'm still here. I can make plays.

790
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 5: I mean I only have three or four catchers speaking

791
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: of like Dawson Knox.

792
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: But you know, it's Monday night football. I've been here before.

793
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: You know what, Let me have a good game, Let

794
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 5: me step up and try to help this offense. But

795
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 5: with the coaching staff and it, he has to be

796
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: on the field and have to call plays for him.

797
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: And I don't know if that is gonna happen because

798
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: we got KNK. I mean, we still have him, Okay,

799
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: So I mean that's a it's a good spot.

800
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: But all these guys need to step up.

801
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: All right, we need to take a break here, but

802
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: more with Thurman Thomas coming up next here on one

803
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:28,440
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804
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,640
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805
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806
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,319
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807
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,520
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808
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,520
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809
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: pre sale tickets. That's t SE Buffalo dot com. Actually

810
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: see Joe Andreeson in that picture too.

811
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we're job.

812
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: We had a chat.

813
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: We were gonna do the read. We had to check

814
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: our what I forgot about it? Yeah, we're both going

815
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: to be there. I gotta find out what is the

816
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: November third game? What is that name?

817
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: Chiefs game? I think, oh no, that's the Dolphins game.

818
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Dolphins game here.

819
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

820
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: The next day, the third is the Dolphins. So the

821
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: weekend of the Dolphins game, you and I are going

822
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: to sign autographs on Saturday.

823
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: I'll probably get a couple of Dolphin photos.

824
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll say this.

825
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: So so I'm doing the games for CBS, and I'm

826
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm in the booth. I got the CBS blazer, you know,

827
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: coat and tie on game day, which is you know,

828
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: feels weird, but you know, I did it for twenty years.

829
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: So we're doing that. There's the first first year I'm

830
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: out and third was playing for the Dolphins. We got

831
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: a Dolphins game, So I'm hopping around. I walk into

832
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: the Miami locker room, which is you know, imagine my trepidation. Yeah,

833
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: I walk in to see him. I would say hi to therm.

834
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: There he is sitting there, Miami Dolphins jersey late sitting there.

835
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: Walk in, he did, he got up and gave me.

836
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: We gave a big hug in the locker room with

837
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: all the Dolphin guys around. So I was I'll never

838
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: forget it. It was nice.

839
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: It was nice.

840
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: Places.

841
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: Look I don't get I don't I don't great time.

842
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: YEA, let me say it was I went the extra

843
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: mile for my teammate. We're going into that locker room.

844
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: We give him a hug, all right, good on you, Steve.

845
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: They didn't the guys in the locker room the door

846
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: didn't even didn't even flinch. I just walked right in, right,

847
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: like I was just some jamoke. Well well not like

848
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I was some jamoke, like I was the owner of

849
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the team actually, like, yeah, waving me in, that's pretty funny. Yeah,

850
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: I was first. That's the only time I've ever been

851
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: That's the only time I ever went into an opponent's

852
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: locker room really for any reason. And I say it's opponent.

853
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't even playing.

854
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: They weren't even really count So you're kind of a

855
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: neutral observer, Yes, in a manner of speaking, Yes, So

856
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: I think I think you were well though, well within

857
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: your right to uh get in there.

858
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, it was nice.

859
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoyed it, all right, So let's let's

860
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: figure out this game here. It's so therm. You're gonna

861
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: be busy as a Yankee fan like myself, because oh god,

862
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: the Yankees are playing at pretty much the same time.

863
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: Game one. I mean, they'll start before the Bills game

864
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: kicks off.

865
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: And they'll get done about an hour after the Bills fit.

866
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 2: Games don't last as long anymore with the pitch clock. Now, Steve,

867
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're disdained for the game of baseball.

868
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Come on, six hour games, Come on, bro, it's not

869
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: going to be a six hour camp.

870
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: Now. I'm watching the Bills all the way. I won't

871
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: be checking back and forth.

872
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

873
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm watching the build it if I catch it whatever.

874
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 5: I'm watching the Bills.

875
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm not watching the phone set up down there.

876
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: Let me judge. I mean maybe if I don't watch

877
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: a game, judge, or do something.

878
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: First, intend from a couple of things last night.

879
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, maybe, okay, hopefully I'll get him going.

880
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

881
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a hole in his swing. It's he

882
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: can't hit anything low and outside because because he's trying

883
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: to pull everything.

884
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: Trying to pull everything, but most of his home, a

885
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: lot of his home.

886
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Brother who you're talking about right now to judge, Aaron Judge, Yeah,

887
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: all right, he's a Yankee, right.

888
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: If you're if your average is that bad, you guys

889
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: start swinging like Jeter. Just go the other way, man,

890
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: go the other way.

891
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: The way, the other way on base and these guys want.

892
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Like people don't even want to get on base anymore.

893
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: No, no, and the don't want to.

894
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 5: Like if my marrin judge, I can't, I can't hit

895
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 5: that outside pitch, wouldn't that make me move closer to

896
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: the plate just to try to see if I can

897
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 5: get an extra length of the whatever size bat that

898
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 5: he used.

899
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: But they won't do it.

900
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: They'll sit in the same spot and he never he

901
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: never backs out of the box pitch after the pitch.

902
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: He just sits there and just gets redone. Take a break, bro, Yeah, you.

903
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: Got to ask for time now.

904
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: To ask you disgust me with your baseball talk.

905
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

906
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: No, I I'll say this and I'll leave it. You know,

907
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't partaking baseball at all, but these these playoffs.

908
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I've been watching games, a lot of games watching. I've

909
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: been watching the Mets games and watching the Yankee games.

910
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: I grew up in Kansas, so the Royals I was.

911
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: I was around when the Royals won their first one

912
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: with you know, with Brett, with Brett was playing and

913
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: rather than just whatever he is GM and or owning

914
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: whatever it is he does. Yeah, so I was I

915
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: have been watching this these playoffs, and I gotta be honest,

916
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: so too the Guardians and the Detroit Lions Detroit Tigers.

917
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they're in the playoffs. I had

918
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: no c I had no idea. I had a series

919
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: going on.

920
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 5: The Guardians, Yeah, I mean, yeah, they trick got a

921
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 5: lot going on for right now.

922
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: I got. Yeah, the Lions wife moved to Detroit a

923
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: month ago. Really, yeah, yeah, they moved there. So for me,

924
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: Detroit back on the map.

925
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be making more trips there.

926
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 3: Than I will.

927
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: No, I got guess imagine the ticket requests I've already

928
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: got for that game in.

929
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: Detroit Bills Detroit. Yea later this season?

930
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, December fifteenth.

931
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Third final thoughts on h on Bill's Jets. What do

932
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: you what do you think? What do you think is

933
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: going to be critical if they're going to kind of

934
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 2: end this three game road trip on a good note?

935
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think with this, uh going against

936
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 5: the Jets, last game of a three game road trip,

937
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: I think, like turnos, we haven't I mean, we haven't

938
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: really won the turnover about.

939
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: Guess we have were born in the league.

940
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, okay for this right here, we need for

941
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 5: them to continue to entr Yeah, we need for them

942
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: to continue.

943
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: That did not happen in Week one last year. As

944
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: we know, Josh threw three picks and lost to fumble

945
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: and after the game said I lost us to the game.

946
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that they have been really good at that

947
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: this year. Josh has yet to throw an interception the

948
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: in the season. He's lost two fumbles, sack strips, that's it.

949
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: And the defense is churning him out. I'll say this

950
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: with the defense getting it together in the back end.

951
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. Dorrian Williams has played outstanding

952
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: football since he came in from Milan.

953
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: Physical he is.

954
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: He's set in a physical tone. But here's the thing.

955
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: The difference I see in their games. Milana was doing

956
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: that too, But Milana was more of a He was

957
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: a turn He was a turnover. He was a playmaker,

958
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: a timely playmaker. Dorian Williams is grinding out every snap. Boy, Yeah,

959
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: he's hopped on the ball, But you know what I mean,

960
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I mean that's why everybody

961
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: loved Milana. When you needed to play, the guy showed

962
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: up and picked it off or whatever. Dorian Williams is

963
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: just making tackle after.

964
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: It's it's not only him, it's Carter. So this is

965
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: kind of what I guess Sean McDermott, kind of like

966
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: you're having that rotation going and going. I didn't have

967
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: it right, you might not have it, but these guys

968
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 5: have stepped up.

969
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: I mean really, I mean we're losing it and losing bond.

970
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: These guys here have stepped up, and Carter has been

971
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: tremendously He's been awesome.

972
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, even like with the run a j and Greg,

973
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: they've been playing to run very very well.

974
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: So you know it's uh, you know, when you're in

975
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 5: this offense, when you're in this defense for a couple.

976
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: Of years, Yeah, you start to really learning.

977
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you start to really learn it and start to

978
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: know what your what your role is. And I hate

979
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: a three and two with all the injuries, I'll take it,

980
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 5: but it's gonna be a physical I.

981
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Think this is gonna be a defensive game. I think

982
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: this defense, or I think the Bill's defense is gonna

983
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: have to really win this game because the Jets defense

984
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: is at least it's gonna be points. You're going to

985
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: be a struggle. So I think it's it's gonna be.

986
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: This is where those defense has to match it.

987
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those.

988
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: Games where you look at the Jets and they're like,

989
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: you know, they're one for nine third down or something

990
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 5: like that. Yeah, it has to happen. Yeah, it has

991
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 5: to happen that way. I think that'll be totally dominant.

992
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: I sign up for that. Hur Thanks for the time,

993
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Enjoy the weekend and the game on Monday night. Yeah,

994
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: that's Bill's Hall of Famer Therm and Thomas joining us

995
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: here in studio. Will take a break when we returned.

996
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: We've got Greg co Sell, senior producer from NFL Films,

997
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: to dice up some x's and o's for us on

998
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: Bill's Jets. Next here on One Bill's Live, Stay with

999
00:51:25,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: us The One Bills Live presented by calllighta Health. All right,

1000
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: our number two on a Friday can only mean one thing.

1001
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: Bris Brown, Steves Hasker joined now my senior producer from

1002
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: NFL Films, Greg co Sell, and Greg's weekly segment presented

1003
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work partner of

1004
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills. All right, we got a big one

1005
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: in prime time here, Greg, and both teams trying to

1006
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: come off back to back losses and end their respective

1007
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: losing streaks. Both quarterbacks also struggling of late. So uh,

1008
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's the classic. Something's got to give here, Greg,

1009
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: who fixes their problems first?

1010
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 6: Well, you know it's funny, Brownie. I kept hearing that

1011
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 6: Josh Allen's a turnover machine. He hasn't thrown any interceptions.

1012
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: Right, that's correct, there we go, So we could, you know,

1013
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: give me the turnover Josh and four and one instead

1014
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: of three and two?

1015
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 6: Right right, right, Well, where do you want to start, Brownie?

1016
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I would say both quarterbacks have struggled against the blitz

1017
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: of late, which is kind of interesting. Josh usually feasts

1018
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: on teams that blitz him. I can't pretend to know

1019
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Aaron's full history against the blitz, but I would tend

1020
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: to think it's not with a passer rating of about

1021
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: fifty four, which is what it was last week. So

1022
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: maybe explain what is plaguing these two quarterbacks who typically

1023
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: do well in blitz situations.

1024
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 6: Well, let's start with Rogers because the team he played

1025
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 6: last week, the Minnesota Vikings, and the Bills defense is

1026
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 6: really nothing like the Vikings defense. Maybe they'll take a

1027
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 6: piece here and there because it was effective, but the

1028
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 6: Vikings could well be the toughest defense in the NFL

1029
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: to play against of what they do pre snap and

1030
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: then what happens post snap, so they're really difficult. They

1031
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 6: line up in a lot of six and seven man fronts,

1032
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 6: sometimes eight man fronts. You obviously have to protect when

1033
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: you see that, so very often you're forced to keep

1034
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 6: it back or a tight end or both in to protect,

1035
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 6: and then often they'll drop out and rush three and

1036
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: you get kind of stuck. So the team that the

1037
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 6: Jets just played is not really a barometer of what

1038
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 6: the Jets are likely to see from the Bills defense.

1039
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: But it's certainly one reason why Rogers struggled. And you certainly,

1040
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 6: as great a pure thrower as Rogers is, you certainly

1041
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 6: don't want him dropping back fifty five times in a game.

1042
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 6: I mean, his lower body is not what it was

1043
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 6: in terms of his movement ability, so you know, I

1044
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 6: think that that's a little bit of an issue for

1045
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 6: him right now. On the other side, I think the

1046
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 6: issues with the Bills offense go beyond just the Blitz guys.

1047
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 6: You know, I watched that tape, and as you know,

1048
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 6: I studied the Bills in great detail. One of the

1049
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 6: things that really stands out to me, and to be honest,

1050
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 6: you know, if I can be honest, I think this

1051
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 6: is really an offensive coordinator issue, although Josh has a

1052
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 6: part to play in this as well. There's not really

1053
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 6: an intermediate passing game in the Bills offense right now,

1054
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 6: and I think that's as much of a scheme issue

1055
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: as it is a quarterback issue. And I thought, we

1056
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 6: both know that Josh always walks a fine line between

1057
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 6: playing from the pocket effectively and getting out of the

1058
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 6: pocket prematurely, and I thought last week he stepped over

1059
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 6: that line. But I think that they need to have

1060
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 6: an intermediate passing game that is schematic, not just where

1061
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 6: it's one on one. I mean, you look at some

1062
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 6: of these other teams in the league that have really

1063
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 6: good pass games like the Lions, and all that is schematic,

1064
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 6: and I think you're trying to define the reads and

1065
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 6: the throws for Josh Allen as cleanly as you possibly can,

1066
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 6: so you know, to me, I think that's where some

1067
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 6: of it starts. And then Josh clearly, you know, has

1068
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 6: to slow down I thought last week he played way

1069
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 6: too fast mentally. I thought it resulted in too much

1070
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 6: unnecessary movement. There were a few clean throws that were

1071
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 6: there that he did not process, and then his ball

1072
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 6: placement last week wasn't you know what it normally is.

1073
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 6: So you know, I think there's a number of issues

1074
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 6: and you know they can be cleaned up obviously, but

1075
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 6: we'll see. They're playing a pretty tough defense. The Jets

1076
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 6: have a very good defense, and they rushed the quarterback

1077
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 6: very very well.

1078
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about one of the narratives

1079
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: is coming around the Bills, and because of the way

1080
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: the Bills entered the season with the kind of weapons

1081
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: they have on the outside, people are saying, well, it

1082
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: got to be those guys outside. They're not getting separation

1083
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. And you know, now teams

1084
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: are starting to blitz Josh a lot, play a lot

1085
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: more man against the Bills than other teams. Kind of

1086
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: delve into what all that means.

1087
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a great point because when you do blitz,

1088
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 6: obviously there's there are man blitzes and there are zone blitzes.

1089
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 6: So teams will man blitz more now because what that

1090
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 6: means is they'll match up man to man on the

1091
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 6: receivers and they'll force them to have to run good

1092
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 6: routes and at least give Josh Allen a place to

1093
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 6: throw the football. And if they can't win at all,

1094
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 6: and win is a relative term. Obviously we're not talking

1095
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 6: about five yards of separation in the NFL, But I mean,

1096
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 6: just win enough that Josh feels comfortable delivering the football.

1097
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 6: Then you know, that's obviously what needs to happen. But

1098
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 6: I think you'll see more pressure and you'll see more

1099
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 6: man coverage because until you can beat it, you're going

1100
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 6: to get it. And you know, and obviously Josh is

1101
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 6: the kind of quarterback that when he sees opposing jersey color,

1102
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 6: he tends to move and you know, sometimes you know

1103
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 6: exactly how he's going to move, and you can react

1104
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 6: to that effectively as a defense. I mean probably, I

1105
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 6: certainly don't have numbers in front of me. This is

1106
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 6: what teams do when they have twenty people that can

1107
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 6: watch tape. But my guess is ninety five percent of

1108
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 6: the time he's going to move to his right, and

1109
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 6: teams know that, and therefore they can then defend that

1110
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 6: as well. They can sort of force him to move,

1111
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 6: knowing where he'll move and be in position to defend

1112
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 6: that right.

1113
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: And that is why they're struggling as much as they

1114
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: are on third down as well. This is a team

1115
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: that led the league in third down conversion percentage each

1116
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: of the last two years, and this has been a

1117
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: problem since Week one. I mean, they are now twenty

1118
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: fifth in the league and third down conversion rate and

1119
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: two thirds of the time they're facing third and six

1120
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: or more this season, I mean there's only one The

1121
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: Jacksonville game is the only game where they had more

1122
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: than three third down conversions in any one game. It

1123
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: was also the only time they were over like thirty

1124
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: three percent conversion rate. I realize that a lot of

1125
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: that is baked into what happens on first and second down,

1126
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: but even on the money down they're not executing. It's

1127
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: it's a little it's kind of eye opening, and I'll

1128
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm troubled by it.

1129
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's it's it's a definite concern. I mean,

1130
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 6: just following up on sort of what I was saying,

1131
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 6: one thing you're not seeing much of at all is

1132
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 6: kind of by NFL standards, relatively easy throwers everything seems

1133
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 6: to be hard, wouldn't you agree, Brownie? Yes, yeah, I

1134
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: mean you're you're the play by play guy, so you're

1135
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 6: seeing all the games. Yeah, you know, of close to personal.

1136
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 6: You know, everything seems to be a struggle there. There

1137
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 6: don't don't seem to be any dropbacks where you see

1138
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 6: Josh drop back hit a receiver who's you know, as

1139
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 6: I said, by NFL standards, relatively open. It just does

1140
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 6: nothing seems comfortable. You know. I know we've spent a

1141
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 6: lot of time, all of us, and believe me, I'm

1142
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 6: a believer that there has to be some semblance of

1143
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: balance in an offense. Again, that's balance is another one

1144
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 6: of those relative terms, depending on your specific offense. But

1145
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes I wonder if, hey, maybe we need

1146
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 6: to line up kind of let Josh get comfortable and

1147
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 6: do the things he's comfortable doing. And as you joked,

1148
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 6: but you aren't really joking. I don't think if that

1149
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 6: made or or Steve you might have said it. If

1150
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 6: that means he throws a pick here and there, you

1151
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 6: know what, so be it. But let him be comfortable

1152
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 6: playing the game, because right now everything seems hard.

1153
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: The Bills have also and Brownie brought this up earlier

1154
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: in the week, and certainly it was a function of

1155
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: how that game went in Houston, but they've run the

1156
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: ball on twenty out of twenty six first downs. Their

1157
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: run game has become really a massive part of what

1158
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: they do offensively, no question speak to that a little bit.

1159
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: Plus with James Cook absolutely questionable, and we don't know

1160
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: what his status is going to be this week because

1161
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: of a toe injury. You know how that affects things.

1162
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: And what do you think the Bills run game? First

1163
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: of all, what do you think it means for the

1164
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: passing game and Josh? And secondly, what about this jet

1165
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: defense stopping it?

1166
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Well?

1167
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 6: Again, you know, maybe if Joe Brady was here, he

1168
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 6: telled me, I'm wrong, but my sense is there's not

1169
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: as much of a marriage between the run game and

1170
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 6: the play action pass game as I personally feel i'd

1171
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 6: like to see. Now again, maybe I'm wrong, but you know,

1172
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 6: I've watched a lot of tape in my time, and

1173
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 6: I feel that if you're going to run the ball

1174
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 6: with the commitment that they've shown, I mean, even last

1175
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 6: week in a game that they fell behind, If I'm

1176
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 6: not mistaken, didn't Cook end up with twenty carries I

1177
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 6: think he had. Yes, Yeah, So, I mean they've been

1178
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 6: committed to running the football, and there's nothing wrong with that,

1179
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 6: but I think now you have to work off that.

1180
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 6: And you know another thing that I think they sort

1181
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 6: of have to in my mind, again, I'm just giving

1182
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 6: you my point of view. You know, reasonable people can disagree,

1183
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 6: but my point of view, I think they need to

1184
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 6: reassess the extensive use of six to zero line personnel.

1185
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 6: I think they need to they need to develop a

1186
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 6: pass game that is more multiple, that is more schematic.

1187
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 6: Maybe they're working toward that. Obviously, they've got new receivers

1188
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 6: this year. This stuff does take time. Believe me. I

1189
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 6: know that I've been doing this a long time. You know,

1190
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 6: people like to think everything happens in two days. It

1191
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 6: doesn't happen that way. But you know, I think that

1192
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 6: that's what they have to be working toward. They have

1193
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 6: to be working toward a situation, particularly against zone coverage.

1194
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 6: They're not going to get man on every snap where

1195
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 6: the route concepts can defeat the coverage and you get

1196
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 6: clean throws for your quarterback. You don't see many of

1197
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 6: those in their offense, certainly not in the last number

1198
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 6: of weeks, and even in the early weeks, I didn't

1199
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 6: think that that was the way they were scoring with,

1200
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 6: you know, just clean throws all the time. I think

1201
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 6: that's what they need to work toward. But the run

1202
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 6: game they're clearly committed to. That's fine, but now you

1203
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 6: need something off that.

1204
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keon Coleman is obviously flashed with limited opportunities with

1205
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: the football. Do you think, even in his young and

1206
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: raw state, that it is merited more opportunities for him

1207
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: going forward?

1208
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: Would you get him?

1209
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: Would you try to target him maybe a little more

1210
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: in the scope of your game plan if possible.

1211
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 6: I would. I mean again, I'm not there every day, Brownie,

1212
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 6: you know, and you guys are there in the building.

1213
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: You know.

1214
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of information you guys get,

1215
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 6: So I don't know what he's doing in practice every day.

1216
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what his development is like. But you're

1217
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 6: dealing with a six or three kid who moves pretty well.

1218
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 6: You would think that you could get him more involved

1219
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 6: in your past game. But that's a function of what

1220
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 6: he's doing during the week, whether he's making mistakes, whether

1221
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 6: he's running wrong routes. I don't know the answer to

1222
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 6: those questions. But yes, just as a general point of view,

1223
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 6: for sure, you'd like to see him more involved. And

1224
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 6: you know, you hear a lot about well chemistry developing chemistry.

1225
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 6: I think that that's something that you can deal with schematically,

1226
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 6: you know, particularly against zone. I mean, all these receivers,

1227
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 6: by the time they get to the NFL, they've run

1228
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 6: every route known to man. So it's not as if

1229
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: they don't know what they don't know what the routs are.

1230
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 6: It's it's how you put all this together in the

1231
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 6: context of a multi dimensional pass game.

1232
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: I'd like to take a minute and talk about the

1233
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Bills defense against Aaron Rodgers. This is the Aaron Rodgers

1234
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: that the Jets get with a heated up achilles. He

1235
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: does not extend plays the way he once did.

1236
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: The becal injury.

1237
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: The ball's coming out, and if it doesn't, he's going down,

1238
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: and he's he's gone down hard a couple of times.

1239
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: How do teams historically handle quarterbacks who don't move and

1240
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: who are the you know, limited in their athleticism.

1241
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 6: Well, you pretty much know where he's going to be.

1242
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's not going to move a whole lot.

1243
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 6: They've had their playing the last couple of weeks the

1244
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 6: rookie right tackle Olufshanu, who has really really struggled in

1245
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 6: pass protection. And I think you've got to attack that.

1246
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 6: I think you have to attack it with Rousseau one

1247
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 6: on one. I think you have to attack it with

1248
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 6: stunts you have to make for Sean who play the game,

1249
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: he really showed some of the He's shown some of

1250
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 6: the same concerns he had on his college tape at

1251
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 6: Penn State. He's got core stiffness in his kick slide

1252
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 6: and his pass set. He reaches and lunges, he's got

1253
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 6: balance and body control issues. That's an area you have

1254
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 6: got to attack. And keep in mind that's the side

1255
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers can see, and when quarterbacks are uncomfortable, as

1256
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 6: he has been, they tend to overreact to opposing jersey color.

1257
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 6: So you want to make sure that that's an area

1258
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 6: in which you attack. I thought it was really interesting

1259
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 6: last week for the first time this year in their

1260
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 6: dime front, they had Solomon and Rousseau on the outside.

1261
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 6: They brought smooth inside. So you know, I think we'll

1262
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 6: probably see more of that. But yeah, I think that's

1263
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 6: one area they have to attack they've got to make

1264
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 6: Rogers feel uncomfortable. I don't think he's overly comfortable with

1265
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 6: his receivers either. And Rogers is a quarterback that's always

1266
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 6: thrown to one on ones and he expects his receivers

1267
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 6: to win. And that is the NFL where if it's

1268
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 6: man to man, you expect your receivers to win. And

1269
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 6: they've not been winning.

1270
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: So you know, I.

1271
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 6: Think obviously the Bills are not a high percentage cover

1272
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 6: one defense relative to the rest of the NFL. I

1273
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 6: doubt that's going to change dramatically. That's been Sean McDermott's

1274
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 6: mom But you've got to make Aaron Rodgers feel continue

1275
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 6: to feel uncomfortable.

1276
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: One of the things that has been a little bit

1277
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: of a surprise this year and a pleasant surprise for

1278
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: the Bills, has been the play of Christian Benford. He

1279
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: has been really tough to beat one on one. So

1280
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: if Rogers doesn't like throwing the receivers who are covered

1281
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: in one on one, you know they could the Bills.

1282
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: And I know Rasoul Douglas is on the other side.

1283
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: He's a heady, very veteran smart player who takes some

1284
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: chances once in a while.

1285
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: Sure, and he's not a press man guy. He's more

1286
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 6: of an off that's right, Cluer.

1287
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's an eyes in the backfield kind of

1288
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: corner even if he's in man recoverage. So what how

1289
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: does that mesh with what the Jets want to do

1290
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: offensively and Aaron Rodgers and what he wants to do.

1291
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 6: I mean, theoretically, it probably helps Rogers because you're not

1292
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 6: going to get a lot of press at the line

1293
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 6: of scrimmage and maybe you know, you're going to get

1294
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 6: more free access into the routes and maybe it's cleaner

1295
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 6: for him. So you know, the key to me is

1296
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 6: pass rush. Now, obviously the Bills are not a huge

1297
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 6: blitzing team either, and I'm not sure you want to

1298
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 6: do that, but you're going to have to generate at

1299
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 6: least pressure. I mean, you know, it's funny. I watched

1300
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers tape from last night already and

1301
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 6: they didn't get a sack, but Nick Bosa was had

1302
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 6: like fifteen pressures. He was around the quarterback literally every

1303
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 6: time Gino Smith dropped back. That's what you'd have to

1304
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,959
Speaker 6: do in this game. It's not number of sacks, it's

1305
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 6: making Rogers feel uncomfortable because no matter how great a

1306
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 6: quarterback is, and we all know he's a first ballot

1307
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer, maybe the purest throw over football we've

1308
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 6: ever seen, no quarterback likes people around him. That's just

1309
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 6: the nature of the position, except maybe your guy Jim

1310
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 6: Kelly Steve, who told me once, I love taking that

1311
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 6: first shot early in the first quarter. But he was

1312
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 6: a little nuts, as you know. But yeah, but you know,

1313
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 6: no quarterback likes a lot of bodies around him, and

1314
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 6: Roger certainly doesn't at this point in his career.

1315
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: Looks like it's trending anyway that Tarren Johnson could be

1316
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: back in the lineup this week for the first time

1317
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:32,480
Speaker 2: since Week one. How does that kind of impact Buffalo's

1318
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: front seven? There knowing he's up at the line of

1319
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: scrimmage a great deal. And look, for the first time

1320
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: since Week one, the second level of Buffalo's defense is

1321
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: back to what it was week one.

1322
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask you this, if Tron Johnson is back,

1323
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 6: does Kim Lewis sit or does he become a safety?

1324
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: I think no, because Taylor wraps out of concussion protocol,

1325
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: so I would presume it's okay. I would presume it's

1326
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: wrapping Hamlin on the back end, and I think cam

1327
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 2: Lewis becomes your third dime safety.

1328
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 6: So he would he would play then instead of Ingram

1329
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 6: then yes, okay, Well, just to talk about some positives.

1330
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 6: I thought Dorian Williams played his best game as a

1331
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 6: pro last week. I know they lost, but I thought

1332
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 6: he played his best game.

1333
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

1334
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 6: I don't know what your thoughts were, but I thought

1335
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 6: he really played good football last week. And I also

1336
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 6: thought Bernard's interception was as good a defensive play as

1337
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 6: you'll see by a linebacker because you guys, you know,

1338
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: I know people can't see it right now, but you know,

1339
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 6: he obviously started to carry the interior oute by Schultz

1340
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 6: and then out of the corner of his eye did

1341
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 6: a beautiful job of recognizing. I think it was Digs.

1342
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 6: Was it Digs of the bulls?

1343
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dropped the cambridge and went back and got

1344
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: back in the throwing lane, and that was but.

1345
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 6: It was just awareness, like that was a Luke Keigley

1346
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 6: kind of play.

1347
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: That was an awareness that was totally preparation and film study.

1348
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: He knew the second HEAs knew the second crosser was coming,

1349
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: and not only did he turn and spin, he got

1350
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: airborne and caught the ball, all of that in less

1351
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: than a half a second. It was a fantastic play

1352
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: and we raved about it the next day as well.

1353
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: That's why you want your best players on the field,

1354
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: because they make plays like that.

1355
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 6: No, you're exactly right. It was as good as it gets.

1356
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 6: And like I said, I thought Williams played really well,

1357
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 6: So you know, defensively, Look, the Jets have not been

1358
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 6: able to run the ball very well. And that's another

1359
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 6: key thing because as good as Rogers is and has

1360
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 6: been in his career, as we said, you really don't

1361
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 6: want him. I mean, if you're the Jets, you don't

1362
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 6: want him dropping back fifty times. So you've got to

1363
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 6: make sure you shut down their run game and then

1364
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 6: really get bodies around Rogers. That's critical, And like I said,

1365
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 6: I think you've got to really attack the right side

1366
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 6: of the Jets offensive line. I think you've got to

1367
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 6: see what Fashano can do. He's not been very good

1368
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 6: in his two starts.

1369
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly, before we let you go, what kind I mean,

1370
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: you're expecting Todd Downing as the new play caller to

1371
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: really kind of stick with the run as long as

1372
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: he can. Yeah, but what have been the shortcomings in

1373
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 2: the Jets run game from what you've seen on tape?

1374
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: Is it Lineman not getting to the second level? Is

1375
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: it something? What do you think it is? Primarily Yeah,

1376
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's usually no magic.

1377
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 6: As you guys know, when you can't run the ball,

1378
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 6: it's because your old line is not either winning one

1379
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 6: on one blocks or they're struggling with the combo blocks

1380
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 6: working to the second level. It's really one of those

1381
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 6: two things. I mean, And it's not the Jets old

1382
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 6: line has not been as good as they hope given

1383
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 6: the fact that they you know, signed Tyron Smith, they

1384
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 6: signed more than Moses, you know. I mean, it just

1385
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 6: hasn't been as good as they've hoped up to this point.

1386
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 1: Okay, Greg, Thanks, appreciate us. Good to see you again.

1387
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 6: I hope we talk about a win next week.

1388
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 7: Guys.

1389
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one with that one, thanks Greg. Appreciate it

1390
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: all right, guys, appreciate it.

1391
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1392
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: All right.

1393
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: That senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosel joining us,

1394
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: and you know he was talking about Nick Bosa's pressure

1395
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: last night on Geno Smith. Greg Russeu had a good

1396
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: game last week. I mean he didn't have any sacks,

1397
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: but he had six quarterback pressures in the game, and

1398
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: I think he had two quarterback hits. I mean he

1399
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 2: was a round C J stroud a lot. If Morgan

1400
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: Moses can't get back from his knee injury and play

1401
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: right tackle, and it's for Shanu again, greg Russeau has

1402
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: to have like well a Week one performance that he

1403
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: did when he.

1404
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: They will have a plan for that. The Jets will

1405
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: put a guy out there to chip tight, they'll tight end,

1406
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: they'll run a back over there, they'll do something to

1407
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: help the guy out. The Bills can counter that as

1408
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: well with an outside you know, bring a corner off

1409
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: of that edge and soak up that guy and get

1410
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: a one on one. Plus you can take Carter on

1411
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: that at the defensive tackle or whoever it may be,

1412
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones, whoever's in there, unless at Oliver as well,

1413
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: stunt those guys down hard inside to create space between

1414
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: the tackle and guard and then you've got an up

1415
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: and under option for a guy like that as well.

1416
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things you can do defensively,

1417
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: and obviously there's an offensive answer for most of it.

1418
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: If you get it right on the right play, sooner

1419
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: or later, though, the guy will be singled up and

1420
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: you gotta win.

1421
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: You gotta win, right, And that's why I want to

1422
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: see maybe a few more opportunities for Keon Coleman in

1423
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: this game. I mean, the guy is fourth in the

1424
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: league and yards per reception because he's making big plays,

1425
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: but he's not getting a lot of chances to do it.

1426
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 2: So let's give him more and see what happens.

1427
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: Let's feed him a little bit.

1428
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if Shakira's not playing, which is completely

1429
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: up in the air right now, I would even be

1430
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: open to putting him in the slot a little bit. Yeah,

1431
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,879
Speaker 2: he played a lot there. He's you know, in college.

1432
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: It's not like it's unfamiliar to him.

1433
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: We'll think about it too, because he's he's a six '

1434
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: to three dude right in the slot. That's a tough matchup, right.

1435
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: And on top of that, the Jets nickel corner Michael

1436
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: Carter has not practiced this week do to a back injury,

1437
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: so you're gonna be going against Brandon Eckles, their backup nickel.

1438
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I just I hope the creative.

1439
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: And it is interesting too that most of us feel

1440
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: about play action passing. The thing that Greg said early

1441
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: on is, you know, the Bills run the ball so

1442
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: well and they're committed to it. The reason play action

1443
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: works a lot of times is that your running game,

1444
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: your passing game out of the run game. Your play

1445
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: action passes when it looks like a run play but

1446
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: it's a pass play. They need to look identical at

1447
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: the first half of the play, when the quarterback goes

1448
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: back and fakes a handoff, the offensive line, the running backs,

1449
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: the tight ends, everybody that needs to look like a

1450
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: run play all the way across the field. And the

1451
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: better you do that, the more successful it is. And

1452
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: right now there's a little bit of a disconnect, meaning

1453
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: there's not not everything's the exact same when you go

1454
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: out and you know, Josh has obviously got to be

1455
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: under center that kind of stuff as well. And also

1456
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: the other half of that is getting and he said

1457
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: about getting the sixth offensive lineman in can you imagine

1458
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: the problems you would you would give the Jets if

1459
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: you've got Alec Anderson running a corner route, you know,

1460
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: out of that sixth offensive lineman. But They're not going

1461
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: to do that, right, Right, So that's why it's a

1462
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have a full repertoire of

1463
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: run plays and pass plays out of every formation, every

1464
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: personnel group. When you get into the sixth offensive lineman,

1465
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: nobody's worried about Alec Anderson when you're out in the

1466
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: field catching a pass. Maybe in the red zone, we've

1467
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: seen that and short yardage, but if it's third and

1468
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: three or third and one, you ain't worried about him.

1469
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, are you troubled at all by Great co

1470
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: sales comment that the intermediate pass game within this scheme

1471
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 2: is lacking. It made me think immediately about what Daniel

1472
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: Alive he told us out of twelve personnel, the Bills

1473
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: only have really two pass concepts, right.

1474
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's being a little bit affected by the

1475
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 1: amount of man they're getting, and a little bit about Josh.

1476
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: It's either the quick release dump off or it's down

1477
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: the it's the home run shot. You know, there's between

1478
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: with him. There's no one between with him either. And

1479
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: I think, and we're talking to listen, think we're talking

1480
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: about a handful of plays a game. We're not talking

1481
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: about fifteen to twenty plays. Again, we're talking about like five,

1482
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: two in one quarter and one in each of the

1483
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: other three. So I'm that doesn't really bother me too

1484
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: much because there's no doubt they're running some twelve to

1485
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: fifteen yard routes. They're just not hitting them. And I

1486
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: think that's part of the you don't see that is

1487
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: part of the reason people must think. Now you know

1488
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: they're not getting separation, Well, sometimes they do and Josh

1489
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: doesn't throw it. Sometimes they don't and Josh has to

1490
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: eat it and throw it someplace else shorter on. And

1491
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: then sometimes they're not there. They're they're all trying to

1492
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: get to the sticks and curling up. Who knows, But yeah,

1493
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't because I know in every game they're not.

1494
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: It's not like those plays are not in the repertoire.

1495
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: They are, but they got to call them and they

1496
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: got to execute them.

1497
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, we'll

1498
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: weigh in with your recipes. Tailgate Friday. What do you

1499
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,360
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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,760
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1503
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 2: plan of the Buffalo Bills, because life. So let's see

1504
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: what you've got on the menu this week for this

1505
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: road game, Juan Nito has wings at a local bar

1506
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: down here in enemy Land, New Jersey. Jets. Wish I

1507
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: could go to the game, but tickets are outrageous, and honestly,

1508
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: the experience is so much better at home or in

1509
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: a local bar. There are there are plenty of Bills

1510
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: backers establishments down in the New York metropolitan area.

1511
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: Yes, there are.

1512
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: I was just telling Steve before the break my daughter

1513
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: hit one of the spots in Manhattan for the Jaguars game,

1514
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: I think it was, and jacksually said the wings were

1515
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: pretty good there. So it's well, it's good when you're

1516
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: a pilgrim in an unholy land, as you say, and

1517
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:43,440
Speaker 2: you can find your your hometown fair and it's respectable.

1518
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: That's right. When it's that's big. We we had some

1519
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: wings in Chicago last weekend.

1520
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: I told you, not so good.

1521
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: Not good.

1522
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's what you're hoping you do not

1523
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: run into there. You go into those orders with much trepidation. Yeah,

1524
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: sometimes you just don't know what you're gonna get.

1525
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm in there with all these guys, and they knew

1526
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: who we were. They'd set aside a room for us

1527
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: and all that. And you know they say they thought

1528
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: they were gonna be you know, hospitable.

1529
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not with their wings. Apparently that's unfortunate. Jack

1530
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: for Tailgate Friday says, keeping it simple this week. Still

1531
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 2: meatless this month. So this Sunday Monday, planning on making

1532
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: a big pot of homemade three bean ministrone soup with

1533
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: shredded palm and Tuscan garlic bread for dipping. Go Bills

1534
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: kinda knock Rogers on his keyster early and often you

1535
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 2: make ministrone soup the right way on a winter day,

1536
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: like so good, Oh my gosh, you feel warm inside

1537
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: for hours after that.

1538
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 1: There you go, just just hits the spot.

1539
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes. Faith says Tailgate dinner will be mini pot roase

1540
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: sandwich sliders on Hawaiian rolls, dolled up with garlic butter,

1541
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 2: and your choice of BBQ, finished off with fresh apple

1542
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: crisp for game time dessert. Oh boy, had me at

1543
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: apple crisp.

1544
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, apples on Friday, they all just sound spectacular.

1545
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: Garlic butter on those. That's like a that's a that's

1546
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: a major level up move, like pot ROAs sliders, all right, cool,

1547
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 2: Hawaiian rolls, all right, you're gonna go with a little

1548
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: bit sweeter roll, that's cool. The garlic butter is a

1549
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: level up. That's just a level up move all the way.

1550
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: Love that. Yeah, and different choices of barbecue sauces too,

1551
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm kind of liking that, Steve. Is it possible to

1552
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: ever have a bad Apple crisp? I don't think I've

1553
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 2: ever had a bad Apple crisp. It could be two

1554
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: hours sitting in that tray with the little heater underneath

1555
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 2: it. It still tastes good.

1556
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. The only time Apple crisp doesn't hit

1557
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: the spot is when you're like uncomfortably full. We've overdone

1558
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: it already, and you want the Apple crisp. You're just

1559
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: doing it because you want it.

1560
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's as bad as it gets.

1561
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's still pretty good.

1562
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So second question concerning apple crisp, must it be

1563
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: accompanied by a scoop of vanila ice cream?

1564
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1565
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, in an ideal world.

1566
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: It's always hot with vanilla ice cream. Yeah that if

1567
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: you can, Yes.

1568
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a gimme yes, yeah, like I've done

1569
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: it without and you know it's good, but not as good.

1570
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: Nothing's nothing's as good without vanilla ice cream on it.

1571
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: I guess that's a fair statement. That's a fair statement,

1572
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: all right. So that's tailgate Friday. Thank you for your

1573
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: submissions everybody, and we encourage you. You know you've got

1574
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: some unique recipe items that you use in your tailgate

1575
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 2: share them with us. People are eager to try different stuff,

1576
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: so you know, if you're the creative type that's always

1577
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 2: coming up with something different each and every game, share

1578
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: them with us at one Bill's Live and we'll be

1579
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: happy to use them on the air and share them

1580
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: with all the other people and Bill's Mafia. So thanks

1581
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: for the submissions. This week, we are going to jump

1582
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 2: over to the phones here at eight oh three h

1583
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 2: five fifty and we're gonna go to Kevin in Hamburg.

1584
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: What do you have for us?

1585
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: Kevin?

1586
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 7: Hey, you guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1587
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 7: I wanted to bring up something because he's obo fam man,

1588
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 7: like you can talk about everything, not just the Bill's

1589
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 7: NFL too, right, yep, yep, Well, I wanted to know

1590
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 7: it's something I want to hear what your opinions are

1591
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 7: when I'm done. I know it's when in September when

1592
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 7: they talked about showed that the NFL key dates coming

1593
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 7: up in the fall in the winter, and they said

1594
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 7: the trade deadline is no Member fifth and I thought

1595
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 7: it was weird that guess what big day that is?

1596
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: When he bon.

1597
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, you think someone like us Goodell,

1598
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 7: who's probably has the calendar ahead just like anybody does.

1599
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 7: Someone would in a boardroom or someone reason say, uh,

1600
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,959
Speaker 7: that's an election day with one of the biggest elections

1601
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 7: coming up, that you may the maybe switch it around

1602
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 7: a little, and like I guarantee, miss, you're not a voter,

1603
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 7: which a lot of sports fandar noment on what side

1604
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 7: they vote for. Unless they hate politics, they probably are

1605
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 7: gonna pay attention to more of that than they are

1606
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 7: than the the maybe switching around. It's kind of weird,

1607
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 7: don't you think I mean that he wouldn't pay attention

1608
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 7: to it.

1609
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess. I guess if the NFL

1610
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: is concerned about coverage of the trade deadline, maybe they

1611
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: worry about losing viewers to people tuned into the election results,

1612
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: So I get where you're coming from there, Kevin. Is

1613
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: it enough to move it after they realized it's on

1614
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 2: the same day as election Day? I don't know. Perhaps

1615
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: I think they had a plan all along to make

1616
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: it the first Tuesday, Yeah, after Halloween, because in previous

1617
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 2: years it was the week. It was the Tuesday prior

1618
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: to Halloween, and then all the owners and executives got

1619
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: together and said, let's push it back another week, and

1620
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: here we are.

1621
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's part of the calendar, and the

1622
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: day of the means something, and the timing of in

1623
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: the season means something, and they just they did it.

1624
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they care.

1625
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: They probably didn't give it that as much thought as

1626
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: Kevin's giving it right now.

1627
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: That's probably right. They we're gonna because it's Yeah, it

1628
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with obviously nothing to do with

1629
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: the political landscape. It has to do with their competitive Yeah.

1630
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: And Tuesday is when a lot of transactions take place

1631
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: during the week of an NFL team.

1632
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: The players are off work all that, so yeah, I

1633
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: don't that's just another for most of the gms will

1634
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: be hard at work, no question, but everybody else is

1635
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: just another day.

1636
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the tweet sheet from here for the show,

1637
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: how much of the issues of the passing game revolve

1638
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: around the players not getting separation or as part of

1639
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 2: the problem, the way the players are schemed. The answer

1640
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: is yes to both, because, as Steve has said already

1641
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: once or twice on the show today, the problems with

1642
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: the passing game are multi layered. It's players not getting

1643
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: the proper communication, which Joe Brady outlined earlier this week.

1644
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 2: It's players not executing properly. Josh being maybe hurried up

1645
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: in his operation because he looked like he was playing

1646
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: a little frenetically last week. I think that's fair to say.

1647
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: That's what Greg Cosell in the last segment thought he was.

1648
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: He was also inaccurate, and then the protection was not

1649
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: as sound as it had been in the first three

1650
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 2: weeks of the season down in Houston last week. So

1651
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: there are a multitude of factors that are at work

1652
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: there in tearing down the effectiveness of the Bills passing game.

1653
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot to clean up. I don't think there's

1654
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: any question about that. Can they clean it up in

1655
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: one week's time. We'll find out very quickly because they're

1656
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: going against another formidable defense, because the caliber of the

1657
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: opponent counts too.

1658
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: Here. Yeah, and they've been stepping up in weight class

1659
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: the last three games. This Jet team, with their defensively,

1660
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: may be the best team they've placed faced so far.

1661
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: But I think as far as your question goes, they'll

1662
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: have conversation. I'm certain certainly Joe Brady, Sean McDermott, Josh Allen,

1663
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: they'll all be sitting around talking about, you know, how

1664
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: we can get off to a better start, a faster start,

1665
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: how do we get into the groove of things, Put

1666
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: them on their heels a little bit, maybe force them

1667
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: to adjust to us, and they and they have big conversation.

1668
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: But it's not just Joe Brady's sitting in a room

1669
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: by himself with a whiteboard drawing up plays and putting

1670
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: them down. There's a lot more that goes into it.

1671
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: So and all those things have to come together, yep.

1672
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: And like Brownie said, there's a million reasons why a

1673
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: play is successful and a million reasons why it fails,

1674
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: and most of the time you get ninety nine thousand

1675
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: of them right, and it's one of those last ones

1676
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: that get you.

1677
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: The Jets have been struggling and getting off to fast

1678
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: starts as well. Offensively, as we know, the Bills managed

1679
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 2: only three points each in each of their last two

1680
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: games in the first half. The Jets in the first

1681
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: quarter this season, Steve, have scored fourteen points in five

1682
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: games in the first quarter. That is anemic. Gotta take

1683
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: a break here, some final thoughts on the tweet sheet

1684
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live.

1685
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 4: Stay with us.

1686
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: All right back here on one of Bill's Lives. Some

1687
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweet sheet here and Gary says,

1688
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: I believe the key unit for a Bill's win versus

1689
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: the Jets on Monday Night football is the Bill's offensive line.

1690
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 2: Do you, Chris and Steve agree? It would certainly help

1691
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: the functionality of the offense. You know, as we said earlier,

1692
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: we kind of felt like Josh was sped up in

1693
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: his decision making and processing last week in the face

1694
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 2: of some pressure, including some Blitz pressure. And that's not

1695
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,480
Speaker 2: all on the line, but there were some protection breakdowns.

1696
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: Well, if the Bill's offensive line plays well, it certainly

1697
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: takes away one of the strengths of the Jets, and

1698
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: that's their defensive line. I mean, they've got a really

1699
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: good front, and they get a lot of pressure. They

1700
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: don't blitz very much, they do. They get a lot

1701
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: of pressure without doing that. So the guys they've got

1702
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: get there. If the Bills offensive line can handle those guys, yeah,

1703
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: you hamstring their defense and what it's been able to

1704
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: do thus far in the season. It's that simple, right.

1705
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh. Got a late entry here, Steve, And this might

1706
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: be Bill's relationship hotline related so quickly. My future fiance

1707
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,799
Speaker 2: has booked a weekend getaway in the Adirondacks until Tuesday.

1708
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: Luckily she wants to watch the game. But I need

1709
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: some listener recommendations on where to go near the Long

1710
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Lake Lake George area. Go Bills. I believe in the

1711
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Lake George area you can pick up the Bills radio

1712
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: network on an Albany station. There are also stations in Amsterdam,

1713
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: New York, which is in that general area as well, so.

1714
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: If you go, you might be able to look up.

1715
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: But there's got to be some backers bars over there

1716
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: in the Adirondacks. Yes, well, I would think I've spent

1717
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: some time over there as well, so yeah, I'm not

1718
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: familiar with I go over there a lot, but I'm

1719
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: not familiar with the area. I couldn't tell you where

1720
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: where to go and what to do, but there's got

1721
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: to be somebody, some bar or place you can land.

1722
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: So at the very least you could pick it up

1723
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: on the Bills Radio network. So best of luck out

1724
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: there in the Adirondacks. That's it for me. If we'll

1725
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: see on Monday for an extended pregame at noon.